Hosts:
Dr. Ashlee Gethner, LCSW – Child of a Police Officer
Jennifer Woosley Saylor, LPCC S – Child of a Police Officer
In this heartfelt follow-up to their interview with Marian Crossgrove, Jennifer and Ashlee dive deep into the often-overlooked topic of substance abuse in the first responder community. With no guest this week, the hosts reflect on Marian’s story of resilience, recovery, and hope. They use her journey as a springboard for a candid discussion about why substance use is so common among first responders, how it impacts families, and what real recovery can look like.
Key Discussion Points:
Marian’s Inspiring Comeback: Marian’s story of losing her identity, seeking help, and returning to the first responder field offers hope to those who may feel isolated by substance abuse.
Cultural Normalization of Alcohol: The hosts discuss how drinking is woven into the fabric of first responder culture as a means of celebration, coping, camaraderie, and the slippery slope it can create.
Family Perspectives: Ashlee and Jennifer describe personal experiences growing up in families where drinking was normalized, and how family members can play a crucial role in identifying when substance use becomes a problem.
Defining Addiction: Jennifer breaks down how addiction is identified, emphasizing the importance of looking at functioning and not just frequency or quantity of use. They highlight the clinical criteria and how family concern is a significant indicator.
Genetics, Trauma, and Coping: The discussion covers how genetics, trauma exposure, and lack of healthy coping mechanisms can all intersect to increase the risk of substance abuse among first responders.
Shame, Stigma & Department Culture: There’s an honest exploration of the double standard within some departmentswhere drinking is both encouraged and shamed, and how this adds complexity to getting help.
Moving Toward Wellness: Both hosts stress the importance of departments understanding their resources, building peer support, and knowing treatment options because being prepared can save careers and lives.
The Complexity of Recovery: Recovery from substance abuse isn’t easy, especially in a culture where drinking is prevalent. Jennifer and Ashlee share insights on the dedication required for recovery and the ongoing journey of maintaining wellness.
Resources and Recommendations: The hosts encourage listeners to explore resources like Alcoholics Anonymous, peer support teams, and to approach the issue proactively within their departments. They remind families and departments to stay educated and ready to help.
If this episode resonated with you or if you have stories to share about living with a first responder, reach out to Ashlee and Jennifer on their social media platforms!
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