February 3, 2023 • 55 mins
The spooky tales are back!
This week we cover cryptids. Cryptids can be any unknown species that may exist somewhere within our world but live undetected from the human species. A lot of cryptids you are likely familiar with include Sasquatch, The Yeti, The Loch Ness Monster and so many more. Bri and Kendall will investigate odd, silly & mysterious creatures and cover two tales of creepy cryptids you'll have to see to believe!
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Smith, Tiara "Legend or lore: Michigan's Dogman still haunts people to this day" 7/2022
Davis, Leecy "The Beginnings of Cryptozoology" 01/2021
https://blogs.iu.edu/sciu/2021/01/23/the-beginnings-of-cryptozoology/
The Michigan DNR's Wildtalk Podcast , Legend of the Michigan Dogman
Mulka, Angela "Michigan trucker believes he encountered, shot the Dogman" 10/2022
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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(00:00):
I'm Kendall and I'm Bree and this is when the light goes out.
(00:20):
Hello all you beautiful strange humans. I hope you're having a great week today.
I'm definitely making it as great as possible. How about you over there?
I'm struggling. Not on the week just right now. My neck is killing me.
Yeah, before I show up, Bree had been sitting on the phone and kind of hunched her back over a little too long.
(00:45):
Apparently. Now I'm paying for it with neck pain. That hurts so bad.
I understand. Also happy Black History Month. I need to say that.
Yes, happy Black History Month and happy February in general.
If you are listening to this, you made it to another month. Congratulations.
(01:08):
Yay. Good job. Seriously. Good job.
I should turn my mic down a little loud.
Oops, sorry we're yelling.
My bad.
Boo. Boo. Boo.
She's looking around. She's like, what?
I'm gonna jump.
What?
I think we sound better now.
(01:30):
Okay. So yeah, yeah, happy Black History Month everyone.
Oh, oh my gosh. The other day. Not the other day. Yes. Yes.
Okay, so the by the time this comes out, obviously it's Friday.
So I'm Wednesday. I was driving to one of my friend's house for like a movie night.
And boo, I'm talking stop.
And I'm the, hold on.
(01:52):
You hear this check?
Boo. My friend should not have to parent you.
You're making me look like a bad mom.
No, she's not. Boo's just crazy.
So sorry guys. What?
What does they say? Oh, the shoot. Oh my God. No, I didn't say yeah.
Okay. So, yeah, the other day I was driving to my friend's house and I was just,
(02:14):
I just casually looked up the minute I looked up, I hit you not.
I saw what I thought was a shooting star.
Like, I think it just zip has like, I don't know.
It was just so weird because I was like, Oh, was that a plane?
But it wasn't. It was so quick that I'm like convinced that it was a meteoroid or something.
Did you make a wish?
Yeah, I did make it. I did make a wish or it could have been a UFO.
(02:37):
You never know. Tee.
That's some Tee.
That actually leads us a great segue into our topic today.
We were talking about cryptids and we're going to get a little bit into what those are.
We have two really interesting little folklores for you and I think you guys are going to enjoy it.
It's a little different for us outside of our typical murderous murder stories and such.
(03:03):
Messed up stories.
Messed up stories. Yeah, that's for sure.
So I'm like, let's just take a break from that for a week and just resume back to it.
Don't worry. We'll get more of those.
We segued into our stories, but did you see the missing girl who went missing and then she was found dead in Michigan?
Oh, no.
15 year old in Ann Arbor.
(03:26):
Oh, really?
She was missing. I saw the Facebook posts.
Literally, I think it was like maybe the day before, a couple of days before and then news just broke, I think yesterday,
that she was found deceased on her high school's football field.
What?
And they don't suspect foul play, but she was seen with the man that she didn't seem like she knew how to bust up.
(03:51):
She got out of school or something.
Yeah. You know what? Yeah. I'm assuming this is Michigan's campus?
No. No, no, no, no.
Like high school.
Oh, high school.
Oh, you did say that.
Wow.
It's like a case we got to cover with more news.
Yeah, that's definitely something to look into.
(04:12):
And even if it's something that we don't have enough info on, we can definitely start, you know, the episode just talking about that,
because I would really like to dive deeper on that.
If you guys don't have any information more about that, send it to us, because sometimes all you really have is our articles,
and articles don't always give you all the right or all the information.
(04:34):
So it's interesting. Just let me know, you know, or let Brino, whoever.
Like you're just going to text us?
No, just let us know if you have more information, though.
That's really an interesting case I didn't even know about.
Yeah, I'm shocked.
So really close to home.
I'm shocked you haven't heard that.
Wow. Yeah, no, seriously.
I know one other one that a lot have been talking about is the tragedy out in Memphis.
(04:59):
Five Memphis police officers were charged on, I think this was Thursday of this week,
with a second degree murder of African American Tyree Nichols.
He was a 29 year old who had lived in Memphis.
And I don't know anything about this video or so-called video.
A lot of people have talks about it floating around.
(05:22):
I know it's out there.
You guys can check it out if you would like to.
I'm assuming that it's a pretty brutal video, because a lot of people are talking about how it's really heart-clenching.
I know that he did call out for his mother, which is just so, so devastating to even think about that.
I'm not obviously a parent or anything.
(05:43):
But if I was, I can only imagine what a mother or father must be going through, knowing that the last thing they have with their child is of their child screaming for them.
That is terrible.
And the fact that these police officers are also black, it just comes to show you that all people, we all need to work on ourselves.
(06:06):
We all need to do better.
The fact that these cops were out on this kid like that is just, I mean, I guess not kid.
He was 29, but you know.
I've heard his name, but I didn't hear much about this case.
Yeah, I'm still learning myself about a lot of this.
And it's truly just, it's heartbreaking just to have to learn about.
(06:29):
And the fact that things like this happen are just beyond me.
At this point, it's just stupid.
Yeah, no, seriously.
It's really sad.
And you guys should definitely look more into that.
And especially just personally for me going into like Black History Month, not to just call it out because I'm black or whatever.
But in general, I mean, it's always interesting.
(06:50):
It's always good to, you know, educate yourself about, you know, the black community, the Asian community, all the different communities.
What's going on out there?
Because a lot of people are oppressed.
A lot of people have a lot going on in their lives.
And I get that we all do, but, you know, it's never a bad thing to check up with somebody or do something nice for once, you know.
(07:11):
Be decent.
Be decent. Be a decent human.
Be a good human. Be nice.
Yeah, no, seriously.
And with that said, yeah, that's pretty much all the, I think, true crime news that we had today.
Of course, we're going to keep you guys updated with the other case that Brie had mentioned because that, that, wow, that's terrible.
I just don't understand how no foul play was like suspected.
(07:34):
Yeah. No, that really sounds.
It sounds suspicious to me, but.
No, it sounds suspicious to me too, myself.
Yeah, it's so fresh, so we'll see.
But.
Oh, that's crazy.
Definitely tragedy. That's for sure.
Dang. Wow.
We'll take it a little, I guess, to a creepy side of things.
Because like I said before, we're doing an episode today about cryptids.
(07:56):
Spooky.
Spooky.
Oh, it's you.
No, literally her cat's name is Boo if you don't remember.
So that's that.
Boo.
It doesn't say a lot about Brie's personality.
I don't know what does.
I did almost name my other cat Spooky, but I thought it was silly.
So then we named her Honey.
I didn't know that actually.
(08:17):
So then we named her Honey and Honey slowly turned into Bunny.
Because Bunny is cuter.
What a cute little like.
Bunny.
Backstory. Wow.
She has such, she has a better back story than I have.
I'm gay for my cat.
So it turned from Honey into like something super like cutesy.
Yeah. No, I get that. I love that.
Damn. Well, yeah.
(08:38):
So like I said, we're getting a little bit into our cryptids and so basically I guess
some might ask what are cryptids according to, and this is just according to a definition
on Miramon Webster dictionary.
A cryptid is a animal that has been claimed to exist, but not ever proven to exist.
(08:59):
We're calling out the dictionary.
Yeah, I literally did.
So dictionary definition.
You know me.
And of course with any story, with anything that we do, we have to throw it back like this
ass.
Throw it back.
Only your ass.
We have to go and throw it back a little bit to some origins.
(09:20):
So in 1955, Crypto Zoology was established as a field of study where the term and practice
had been announced or had been, I guess, really out there and of being around the 15th century,
you know, that time.
15th century, I would say like like BC era.
(09:44):
You know, not that long ago.
It wasn't that long ago, right?
You know, so Crypto Zoology itself is a pseudoscience where Crypto Zoologists search and study for
the unknown existence of the survival of undiscovered animals and creatures.
A lot of the cryptids that we all know of and have been often disputed about for centuries
(10:10):
actually would probably be the common Yari or the Sasquatch, the Lachas monster, the
Chupacabra.
The one.
Yeah, maybe.
That's all I know of it, but I'm sure there's some type of pronunciation.
Some type of pronunciation.
Don't at me, anyone.
All the basic ones that everybody knows.
(10:31):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
So, I mean, those are like, I feel like at least you have to know one of them.
Oh yeah, because right now.
At least if not, yeah.
Bigfoot.
Bigfoot.
That's Sasquatch.
I guess that's Sasquatch, yeah.
I think the difference in the Yeti and the Sasquatch would be like.
Well, Yeti's snow.
Yeti's snow.
Bigfoot.
If you guys have seen Monster's Sands, you would know.
Or Scooby-Doo.
(10:52):
Scooby-Doo.
I think Scooby-Doo had episodes with them.
Oh yeah, definitely.
Yeah, actually, you know what?
I think they had like all of them.
I feel like there was a Loch Ness one.
There was every.
There was definitely Loch Ness one.
There was definitely Yeti one.
Sight-Know.
There was a Chupacabra for sure.
Wait, Sight-Know, have you seen, oh, I'm sure you haven't seen.
Bree has not watched anything, but um.
(11:13):
No.
I don't know if you guys have seen, but I kind of like it.
And I guess this is my popular opinion, but there's a new Velma TV show that's out on
HBO.
If you have HBO Max as the streaming service.
And it's the voice of Mindy Kaling.
I think I said her name right.
And she again also does, what's it, Sex Lies to College Girls, great show.
(11:39):
Anyways, that show is really good.
You guys should check that out.
And it just reminds me of like all the like cool mystery stuff and everything.
You guys like mysteries, so I'm assuming, hey, maybe they'll like it.
Check it out.
I should probably check that out.
Yeah, that's not an ad by the way.
That's just, I like it.
It's just a recommendation.
Just a recommendation.
But if you guys want to, you know, feature as Mindy, I'm here.
(12:01):
Um, but yeah, no, we kind of understand all of those different cryptids and stuff.
So it's not a huge question mark or anything.
And like I said, the earliest we know of the curiosity of cryptids and studying them dates back to the 15th century in Egypt.
So at the time Egypt was being ruled by a Egyptian pharaoh and she was a queen, literally, queen hot sheep.
(12:28):
Hot she's, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna try.
She was a queen.
Queen age.
Queen age.
Yeah, that's, that's perfect.
And she would allow ships of her own and her own trusted men to go out and discover and they just traveled down the Red Sea and her curiosity just woke when this group of Egyptian Egyptians had returned to Egypt with a creature that was really unknown and exotic to them.
(12:59):
They would call this, which was translated in hydrogliphics.
I cannot say that at first.
Hydrogliphics.
Thank you to say long neck dragon, which today we know to be the typical giraffe.
So I thought that was kind of cute.
Long neck dragon.
Being a giraffe.
Okay, this long neck dragon.
(13:23):
What that neck do.
Oh my God, any who one of the earliest individuals to actually write books about the exotic and undiscovered creatures was a Roman author by the name of pinley the elder.
Now, in 77 AD, pinley had written about his journey across each Africa and Indica and recorded his findings of leopards and snakes, but also abnormally overgrown insects and even finds seen as softly.
(13:54):
That basically is described today to be, you know, the head of a dog.
Sorry, the head of a dog, the body of a man, kind of like a skin locker or a werewolf.
So that's kind of like what that is.
And then in 1811, geographer David Thompson was the first person to scientifically document his sighting of a Sasquatch and its footprints in Washington State.
(14:16):
Certainly after he documented this finding, he spoke to some natives from the Spokane tribe of Washington State about the Cascade Mountains.
And then Thompson had withheld his odd and mysterious findings from this tribe to kind of avoid, you know, the tribal members using any other find his findings to contra a false story.
(14:39):
So he just held that, you know, from them.
And weirdly enough, when David had finished interviewing the natives, he found that nearly everyone he spoke to had mentioned giants that lived in the mountain ranges west of their lands.
So it was the same area where he had encountered seeing all the ape-like figures leaving behind massive prints.
(15:02):
So that was just kind of a background because you know me, could I help but give you that because I know that I love some history on things.
We love some history on this podcast.
This podcast, but let's get into our topic that we have.
And Bree, what is this going to be for us?
So our first story starts with the Michigan dog man.
(15:26):
Oh.
Bum bum bum.
Shout out Michigan.
Hey Michigan.
Shout out people who like dogs.
I'm excited for those.
And men.
I feel like I'm going to eat dogs and men.
I feel like we should go look for this now.
Maybe not.
We'll look for the dog man.
Maybe not.
Pack up the Bronco and.
(15:47):
Yeah, seriously.
Pack up my Bronco and just head out for the dog man.
I'm here for you.
I'm going to take a little adventure up to the UP.
Literally, I love it.
Alrighty.
So the Michigan dog man is supposedly a creature described to be about seven foot tall with a torso of a man with the head of a wolf.
(16:10):
It is often found with bright amber or blue colored eyes and is said that it's how it doesn't sound like wolf's how, but a human scream.
That's actually like terrifying.
Yeah.
Imagine.
Oh, I just got shivers.
A body of a man, head of a wolf, amber colored eyes with a human scream.
I don't like that.
What the fuck?
(16:31):
I don't like that at all.
All I'm saying is a butterfly.
I'd be out of that bitch.
Yeah.
Imagine like seeing a creature come up to you and then it's screaming at you, but not with that.
A human scream.
But it has a wolf head.
Oh.
Damn.
Oh, I don't like that.
No, I'm good.
Ew.
The first alleged signing of this creature was in 1887 when a group of lumberjacks were working a long shift in Wicksford County, Michigan, which I've never heard of.
(17:02):
I'm actually never going to be there.
It's probably because it's in the UP or no, it's not because I look actually if I'm looking at the map, I think that's higher like northern Michigan.
So it's like, yeah, you guys don't know this.
You guys don't.
Maybe you don't.
If you don't live in Michigan, maybe you don't know this.
You're not going to get it.
But if you know me, I'm showing brief by like holding up my hand because if you look at Michigan, it looks like a big ass mitten and I'm pretty much showing her the north and that's that's where it is.
(17:30):
I love our men.
That's what we do.
Shout out to anyone in Wicksford County.
I have no idea where that is.
You never know.
Now I know.
I need to pull up a map or something.
I do too.
Us down like south, Michigan.
We're okay.
Yeah we don't travel up north or why we're in that doesn't happen.
(17:55):
So anyway, these lumberjacks, they worked a long shift and as they're packing up their equipment for the day.
They all allegedly witnessed seeing a horrific wolf like man staring right at them behind a tree.
So they're packing up their shit.
They look out into the trees and there's a wolf man.
Just staring at them.
(18:18):
What would you do in that matter?
A run.
But I feel like if you run, wanna just.
Get in the car, drive away.
If this is me, I'm done for.
I'm just gonna say my prayers now and just do it out.
I'm gonna be like, we'll see what happens.
Let's hope for the best.
I'm fine.
So when they finally acknowledge it,
it's literally standing on its hind legs,
(18:39):
and then it begins to crouch over and circle them
as if it was hungry.
It was like great predatory.
Yeah, but luckily something startled it off
and then allowed the men to just pack up their truck
and totally leave.
Sure that made for an interesting car ride home.
Yeah, definitely.
(18:59):
It was either completely silent
or it was definitely like what was that?
And this does, well, you said the 1800s,
so this is not obviously,
they don't have motherfucking cameras to,
or not cameras, but sorry, photography,
or like phones to whip out and be like,
oh my God, a wolf man, but.
Yeah, are you 1887?
(19:20):
I wonder what type of truck they were driving.
Yeah, same.
Anyway, it is said that the Michigan dog man
has been most often reported
seeing around the Manistee River.
I've heard of that, okay.
I know, I think I know where that is.
I've definitely heard of that.
Manistee, like that sounds really familiar.
Yeah, since the 20th century when the Ottawa tribes
(19:43):
had lived in the northern Michigan area.
On a popular YouTube web series called What Lurks Beneath,
an episode had been released on September 12th, 2022,
so last year, recent,
that featured an interview with 59 year old truck driver,
Joe Barger, who had also had an encounter with the dog man.
(20:05):
Barger explained that in June of 2017,
so that's still kind of recent.
Yeah, very recent.
Compared to 1887, he was transporting a 43,000 pound
load of paper from a mill in Northern Michigan
and often took the same route.
And later one afternoon,
he's driving down the main road through the woods.
(20:27):
He gets one of those weird feelings,
probably something like eyes around you, right?
Yeah, like that feeling.
You're talking, we're just talking about that
in the Night Stalker, those eyes onto you,
and you feel a guy's run.
Yeah, something's off me off.
Something's off, yeah.
Yeah, so he knew something was off
because he pulls over, checks his truck,
and then he realizes that an air leak
(20:49):
by the back brake chamber of the trailer,
the truck was pulling.
So there's an air leak
by the back brake chamber of the trailer.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm following, I'm following.
You're following, you're really following.
All of a sudden,
we're trying to temporarily fix the problem.
Barger says he began getting chills
with the sense of I shouldn't be here.
(21:11):
And immediately he got right back into his truck.
There were no cars in sight,
but he knew the truck issue wasn't very vital,
so he could drive until he had that next gas station.
Barger then says, quote,
I started hearing a vocalization that wasn't natural.
It wasn't a sound I heard before.
I was looking around
and I saw some shadowing in the wood line,
(21:33):
but there was plenty of light to see.
It was nowhere near getting dark yet.
I was in bear country,
so I perceived the shadowing to be a black bear at the time.
End quote.
And it like the pit.
So Kendall showed me pictures before we started,
and I definitely was like, that looks like a bear.
That went on Jen and Craig.
The one I found of this, yeah,
(21:54):
it definitely sound like a bear on steroids.
I'm not steroids.
Not on steroids.
Not on steroids.
Like on Jen and Craig.
I'll post it.
On a diet.
It's a really.
If you guys want to see the one I'm referring to,
I'll post it on Instagram.
When the light goes on.
No, WTLGO podcast.
Correct, yes.
It'll be there.
On Instagram.
Check that out and tell us,
(22:15):
cause it does look like a bear with shades for.
It's like a thin, she said skinny, she said Mariah Carey.
Like it has a big ass head of a bear,
but it looks like the body of a man.
Yeah, but I wouldn't compare the head to the wolf.
It was definitely a bear.
It looked like a bear head.
In the picture, yeah.
Yeah, which is so creepy.
Yeah, no kidding.
And he did say that it was bear country,
so.
(22:35):
Oh, the bears out here, what they doing?
They're bear human, like combination.
I don't want to think about that.
Someone getting jiggled with a bear.
Ew, people are weird.
I could see that.
Shit.
This is 2023.
I would not be surprised.
That one either.
Yikes.
I got their rice purity score down to a zero.
(22:56):
Oh, no.
Oh no.
Literally.
So he gets back out.
He finishes fixing that back break chamber.
He climbs back into this truck and he heads down the road
at about 25 miles per hour.
When he looks over to his left rear veal mirror
to see a massive wolf-like being with human-like features
(23:17):
trotting besides this truck, that's terrifying.
Oh.
Barzor then explains this absolute shock in the moment,
saying, quote, time slowed down.
I thought I was in an alternative reality or something
because a creature like this doesn't exist in a reality
I've ever known of, end quote.
Imagine literally just like driving down.
(23:38):
Something like that starts trotting beside you.
Yeah, because she's only going like 25 miles per hour.
So imagine like driving down your neighborhood street
and there's just like a dog man trotting next to your car.
I cannot stress this enough, guys.
You're listening to this.
I promise you, you're able to go onto her Instagram
and look at this picture that I'm referring to.
(23:59):
I'm thinking of that picture.
Like chasing me, like that creeps me.
No, yeah, and this is recent too.
Ah!
It's just like a little skinny ass bear
like trotting next to your car going down fucking telegraph
like trotting, not even like running.
(24:22):
You know what that reminds me of?
Have you ever seen, what's that one film?
Scary stories that tell in the dark.
Yeah.
The one that's based on the book.
Yeah.
OK.
Have you seen it?
Do you remember?
Episodes.
Do you remember that thing that was like running when the kids
were like leaving the jail or whatever?
And it's like the old man that turns into like the rocking
(24:46):
thing.
I have to say.
No.
Maybe you guys know what I'm talking about.
I don't know what it's called specifically,
but that's what I think of when I think of this thing.
And it's super creepy.
I'm going to look it up real quick.
Please hold.
This is the best I can get from it.
This is what I think of.
This is what was in the movie that was like.
(25:07):
That's actually really scary.
I told you.
That's what I think of.
Oh, wait.
Was this the scary story that's telling the dark movie?
That movie that came out like recent?
Yeah.
What was that that?
Yeah, it wasn't long ago.
I have a piece of it.
I did see that, but I don't remember that part.
But that was like the haunted house.
No.
I think you're thinking of it.
I think that's different.
Yeah.
(25:27):
You know, I know you're talking about.
Is that like the old, like early 2000s?
There's a movie?
Guys, there's a movie.
The movie I'm talking about is the one based on the book.
Yeah, it's based on it.
Maybe you did see it, but you don't remember that specific.
Like it came out in 2019.
So it was.
OK, I'm definitely talking about that.
But there was like a house.
(25:47):
Like that, right?
Yeah.
But there was like a house, I thought.
Yeah, there was a house.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
There was like a creepy house and a lady
locked in it or something.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, I don't remember that part, though.
Oh, that part.
How could you not remember that part?
To be honest, I don't know.
I don't remember the guy's, the thing's name,
but it's so freaking creepy.
And like you guys have to look it up.
It's like, I don't know what to even call that.
(26:09):
It has a name.
It's bugging me.
But anyways, we'll move on.
Sorry, go ahead.
First, I thought you were talking about, all right.
Oh, at first I thought you were talking about,
are you afraid of the dark?
Oh, no, no, no.
Yeah.
The old series.
Anyway.
OK.
And so Joe Barger described the creature having black,
(26:29):
long hair covering its body, a lot of sharp teeth
that were oddly pretty clean and white,
three inch long fangs, top and bottom, black pointed ears,
yellowish brown eyes, 14 inch human-like hands,
and the entire time it was following his car,
it sneered at him and made human-like screaming noises
(26:49):
as if it was hungry or waiting to be fed.
That is a description.
And that's a very detailed description.
He's like 14 inch fingers.
Yeah.
Or hands.
Maybe it's giving a rough estimate.
I guess I would too.
What the fuck is that?
What is what?
What's on the ground?
A toy.
Oh my god.
I'm sorry.
(27:10):
I'm sorry.
You scared me.
You scared me.
The brown thing?
Yes.
It looks like a rat from here.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sorry.
Bro, you fucking scared this shit.
I don't know my glasses on.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to scare you.
Shit out of me.
I'm looking out there and I'm like, I don't see anything.
What the fuck are you looking at?
I'm sorry.
I didn't know.
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Boo sensed it.
Boo sensed my fear.
She's like, bitch.
My heart is missing so much.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't mean to scare you like that.
Yeah, it's a toy.
It's like one of the modern toys,
but it's just like a ball fur on the end.
And Boo loves it.
It's not only me, though.
From here, it looks like a.
It looks like.
I guess if you don't have your glasses on.
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I thought it was like a big turn.
Like from here.
I guess so.
It looks like a giant turn.
Oh, god.
I'm sorry.
God, Jesus.
I told you not to mean to do that.
I really did.
I did see your face after I scared you like that.
And I felt so bad instantly.
I'm sorry.
Oh, god.
Proceed.
God damn, I'm scarier than this goddamn story.
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Than that goddamn picture you showed me.
Yeah, that's kind of freaking me out now.
I'm like, oh.
Anyway, now that I got my goddamn breath back,
Barger steps on his gas pedal and reaches down
to pull out his 45 coat revolver that
had been strapped to his waist.
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He slows down and reaches out of his window
to fire out three shots at the creature.
He says that he managed to shoot it once, which
seems to have harmed it.
In distress and shock, Barger stops the car
and takes a couple of deep breaths.
And as he put his head back up, he
looked back to see that, oh my god,
that the creature was completely gone.
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Oh, shit.
So this is.
Got shot, disappeared.
It's like, hell no, I'm out of here, bitch.
It's like.
Got to go.
Oh, wow.
OK.
It took off.
Yeah, literally.
Get out of dodge, bitch.
Get out of dodge.
After he shares, he felt a sense of security
with the gun enough to get out of the car
to look for any blood, footprints, or hair,
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but found absolutely nothing.
Coincidentally, Barger had continued driving up the road,
wearing a couple miles away, was a couple
standing outside their jeep on the side of the road.
Barger then says he stopped to see
if they needed any assistance in fear of what he had just seen.
But there were women replied with a no
and mentioned that her and her husband had just seen two bears
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fighting with an even bigger animal
and couldn't figure out what they had just seen.
In a worry to start a panic explaining his experience,
Barger strongly suggested that the two got back in their car
and stayed safe from any bears and drove off.
Oh, shit.
Of course it doesn't.
No, why would it?
A couple years after this took place in 2019,
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a family member convinced Joe Barger
to release his story to the public to warn or inform others.
So Joe found a podcaster willing to share his experience
but wanted to stay anonymous.
So had the podcaster read his story for him
under an anonymous name.
Anonymous.
Three months later, after the episode released,
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Barger claims to have been randomly detained
by federal authorities for tampering with an investigation.
Hell no.
He was even.
That's Mindenblac right there.
Literally, he was given no further information
about the investigation after a brief hold was released.
What?
What investigation, Michigan?
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Wexford County?
I just got chills.
Like, whoa.
Like, they just come to.
So imagine like, sorry, already getting
scarred from this motherfucking walking man bear, man person,
man wolf.
And then you're like afraid to already talk about it.
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So you're convinced.
And you're like, fine, I'll talk about it.
Maybe it'll make me feel better.
Because I would do that.
I could see that happening.
But then you go to someone like us for a podcast.
And then, of course, how did they even find it?
That's what I was about to say.
Like, how did they know it was him?
That's mysterious.
Unless they like, hounded the podcaster.
The podcaster to give them things.
Yeah.
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And I mean, at that point, like.
No shade.
But the government's going to ask.
They're going to get some information.
Yeah, they're going to get information.
Oh, that's so scary.
But you know what?
Insight note from that.
Sorry, real quick.
I always forget that there's that conspiracy
that they're listening in on your phones.
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Yeah.
On everything.
Your everythings.
I actually did have an Alexa for a minute,
but I got rid of it.
Because I just couldn't do with the whole similarities
between all the things I talk about.
So for instance, literally the other day,
we were talking about, my friends and I
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were talking about something stupid, like the New Harry
Potter game, I think that's coming out or something.
This new Harry Potter game.
And I kid you not on my phone, as I was looking through,
probably researching my stuff, I see an ad for the Harry
Potter game.
And I kid you not two days later, when he had talked about,
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I think it was another movie.
That same movie just popped up.
It was just so weird.
And I've had that happen so many times.
I actually did just have that happen very recently.
And I think it was for a place.
But I can't remember what it was.
But I do remember specifically talking
about the Addams family one time, and specifically Wednesday,
like back before the Netflix show and everything
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way before that.
And I started getting ads for Wednesday dresses.
And I was like, what the fuck?
Like on Facebook.
And I was like, what the fuck?
I swear they know your algorithm.
They know everything about you.
Like, guys, be cautious about that shit.
And I think I said this before, too.
But just also for fair warning, if you're on Instagram
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or anything, just remember to make sure you block your location.
Because yeah, don't.
Yeah, that is very smart to block your location.
Yeah, I do that.
So back to the story, one more important note to add
was on a wildlife podcast called Wildtalk Podcast, a wildlife
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expert from the Michigan History Center, Rachel Clark,
mentions the center receiving hundreds of weird findings
around the state, including the dog man.
But the sightings always weirdly seem
to happen in years that end in seven, so every 10 years.
In 1987, she explains that a radio disc
Jackie named Steve Cook recorded a song about the dog man
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called The Legend, which was kind of something
he saw as a joke at first until dozens of people
began calling into the radio station reporting of having
encounters of this alleged Michigan dog man.
That's kind of crazy.
Oh, my gosh.
Every encounter has been reportedly
similar to one another, with many claiming
to see this creature in the woods, near highways,
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and even attempting to peep through their windows.
Not that nice.
Stop it.
But if you're curious to track down the mysterious myth,
it is set to reappear in 2027 in and around the Manistee
area of Michigan.
So keep your eyes peeled on your highways, your forests,
and out your windows.
Lexford County, because dog man is coming out in,
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what are we in, three, four, five, six, four years?
Four years?
Four years.
Oh, shit.
I have to move out of Michigan.
I have to go.
No, we're fine.
We're so far away from that.
Oh, that is fair.
Yeah.
Maybe we should still, you know, no, maybe not.
I can't deal if I saw some wolf man.
No, I'd have to actually rethink life.
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Like, sorry, I got to call it a work.
Speaking of Wednesday, I can also
see the wolf man being that, like that thing,
that it was like that creature thing from Wednesday.
Oh, yeah.
My god, I can't even think of the name of it.
But yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because he turns into it.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Spooky.
Creepy curtee.
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Spooky.
Anyone that's a werewolf.
Please don't hurt anyone.
Please don't hurt anyone.
There.
All right.
So the story I have for you guys,
or more so the cryptid that I have for you guys today,
is the Fresnel Nightcrawlers.
So the story all starts on November 5th, 2007,
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precisely two days before my birthday.
How was I about to say that?
That was fun.
In Fresnel, California, Amanda had only given
the name of Jose to the public, had
brought forward chilling surveillance of something
really weird that had been on his surveillance camera when
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he had put it out on his lawn in the wee hours of the night.
And yes, I did say we.
So.
The wee hours of the night.
So Jose had initially installed a camera
since he his garage because neighbors beforehand,
before this night, had kept mentioning
hearing strange noises outside at night.
Items like decor outside decor, which
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is gone missing from around their houses.
All the dogs in the area would just
go mad almost every single night for at least a week straight.
And assuming some kids may have been
messing with the neighborhood, Jose had just set up a camera
and put it on top of his house.
And would just see if he could catch anything.
Keep in mind, this is 2007.
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So there were no rain doorbells or anything,
unfortunately, like we have now.
So I mean, obviously, that was a long time ago,
but still recent.
Like we're not talking about 1800s.
Yeah, we're not talking about 2000s.
We talking about recent.
We were alive.
Yeah, no, we were.
No, yeah, we're talking like Nicki Minaj era.
I guess she's still.
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Nicki Minaj era.
Sorry.
Oh, god.
Let me not say that.
The Barb's are going to come for me.
Oh, sit.
Not the Barb's.
The Barb's.
Love you Barb's.
But no, yes.
2007, I would suggest he would have like a shitty outside
camera, but like not one of those nice ones.
Yeah, can't go on your phone and unfortunately check
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to see who's at your door.
But he did have one.
And so when he goes back to check the footage the next day,
he is confused because all he's seeing in this video
is what looks like a pair of white pajama plants,
as he says, gliding through the line with no body attached
to them.
Bro, seriously, when he showed me this video.
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I did show.
I was like, it literally looks like a pair of pantaloons
are running through the grass.
I'm going to again, I'm going to post this onto our Instagram.
I think I can post a video.
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to post a CCTV footage of this.
Literally, it's like.
A pair of pants.
It's it's like creepy, but like funny at the same time.
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A pair of pants, no torso, just legs.
And then there are parts like there are parts where very
obviously you can see a separation.
But then there are also parts where it kind of blends together
to the point where it almost looks like someone running
with a blanket.
Yes, it does.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's really, I don't know.
Me making my like midnight run to 7-Eleven with the blanket
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over my body.
Yeah, look up this video.
You can look up a lot of videos.
And basically, if you want to look up a video,
I think you can just really just look up the Fresno Night Walk
on night.
Like he's saying, oh, I keep wanting to say Night Walker.
It's Night Crawlers.
Sorry.
We're still stuck on the Toronto.
The Night Stalker, the Night Walker, and the Night Crawler.
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Literally, the Night Crawlers.
So if you want to, you can definitely look that was up the video.
Again, to me.
I go off to the pantaloons for yourself.
The video to me, literally, it's like so funny.
It's creepy in a way.
It's like, why are they, the way they're like swaying.
Something's like wacky inflatable tube man.
That's what it looks like.
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Oh my god.
That's exactly what it looks like.
And it's like, what the fuck is going on?
Like very fluid motion.
Fluid motion.
But the video itself, obviously, like he was saying,
it's 2007, so it's not that great.
It's very grainy.
But you can definitely make it out.
Yeah, definitely.
I'd be curious to see what the fuck it was.
I'm like a now security camera.
Like we're talking color.
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We're talking.
Oh yeah, like all the get up.
Yeah, we're talking.
Nothing we can see some shit.
Oh my god.
Imagine if you could see a clear picture
and it's something that's spooky.
That's what I'm saying.
Like what if it was recorded recent?
Watch it literally just be like someone in some big ass pants.
Well, hold on.
Because some people have seen some weird floating
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pants throughout the States.
And I'm like, huh.
Flotting pants.
Interesting.
Love.
I love floating pants.
OK, so sorry, where were we?
So with the kind of tape that he had around the time,
the footage tape that he had, he couldn't rewind the tape
more than two or three times because he'd
be recording over his capture footage.
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So unfortunately, I think that's just the time.
So he had to use his camcorder to record the TV footage
that he got to CC TV footage.
And so when it showed, it showed as kind of grainy
and really hard to see.
And he showed this as brother and his family members.
Now, filming a phenomenon like this
is kind of ruining the authenticity of it
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to have to film it that way.
But the video did get a lot of attention shortly after
and even caught the attention of paranormal investigator Victor
Kalantash.
And when he showed up to Jose's house,
he inspected the entire property but didn't find really
anything until he checked out the backyard where
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the camera was mounted, excuse me,
and found oddly shaped prints in the mud behind the house,
hoping to grab the attention of police.
He had called them.
He had notified them.
But it just so happens that that same day,
it started to rain.
And the prints that they have found washed away.
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Of course it did.
Of course it did.
Of course it did.
Why would it be?
So police and paranormal investigators
had seen the footage, but they were stumped on this
and did not really know what to make of this video.
And what was caught on that footage is really,
probably became a question mark for everybody.
The weird and strange occurrences around this neighborhood
actually just ceased to stop.
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They just ceased all at once.
So weird that that would happen.
Now, the only odd case in this mystery,
or the truly odd case in this mystery,
is that Jose seemed fine after this footage had been found.
But weeks after he began to get so shaken up
by the occurrence that he saw in the CCTV footage,
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that he refused to leave the house,
assuming that the entities that had came
will return for some reason in anger.
And Jose never really was the same after that,
unfortunately, according to sources.
And after this fear had led up a lot of the pent-up feelings
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that he had, it kind of led to his unfortunate death
and a car accident.
So unfortunately, I think a lot of, at the time, at least
a lot of researchers were trying to ask some questions,
trying to get a lot out what he was kind of seeing
what was happening afterwards.
He didn't really want to open up about it.
And fortunately, yeah, it just kind of took a toll on him.
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Yeah.
So his story actually got so big,
it was a headline story on the Univision television station.
And ironically, on December 12, 2014,
a 60-year-old former Marine and his wife
were driving down the highway in Carmel, California,
which I don't think is too far from Fresno, but I don't know.
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And when they came up over a hill,
he had seen entities oddly similar to the ones
similar to the same thing that Jose had seen.
The former Marine described his creature,
he had seen being seven feet tall, thin,
with a solid white torso, or sorry, not torso,
but legs with no body, and appeared
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to be walking with muscular legs.
But what really creeps him out was that the knees
seemed backwards.
Weird.
So it's just some legs with some backward ass legs.
Broken legs walking.
That's really what he described it to be.
That's so weird.
The former Marine's wife would later
recount not seeing the entity herself,
but knowing her already skeptic husband had seen something
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truly bone-chilling that day, no pun intended,
and after had been stuck with an odd depressive state,
which is weird because it's kind of similar to Jose.
Can I cut in real quick and say that instead of the night
crawler, it definitely should be called the Nightwalker.
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Yeah, it should be.
Because the Nightcrawler is walking, bitch.
It's walking.
Maybe they named it the Nightwalker
because the Nightstalker was.
No, they named it the Nightcrawler.
The Nightwalker, oh, yeah.
Oh, fuck.
I'm getting all these mixed up.
There's so many.
I'm thinking of the Night, the White Walkers
from Motherfucking came with drones.
I'm thinking of the Nightcrawler, the Nightstalker.
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The Nightcrawler, Nightstrawler, Night.
We got them all.
Oh, my god.
That's, but no, going back to the actual story,
that's really sad that it seems like it really
takes a toll on these people.
It kind of reminds me of, and we didn't really
see anything about people maybe dying,
but I think we did see a weird similarity between the Black
(45:08):
Eye children when we covered that story.
Yeah, we're definitely like, it takes a toll on people.
I mean, I see why, and I understand why people
wouldn't want to talk about it that much.
They'd want to spread the news of it when they first see it.
But then it probably sits with them for a while.
It probably sits with them.
What the fuck was that?
And it's like, when it's only you that sees something,
it can only imagine that it's going to make you feel crazier.
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Yeah, and then people calling you crazy
probably is going to help you there.
Yeah, with the world we live in, oh, my god.
But it's like, what can we really believe these days?
But yeah, like we had said, when you look up CCTV,
but it's TCCTV.
CCTV.
TV footage.
Thank you.
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You will come across what literally just looks like.
To be honest, it made me laugh.
So I don't know.
It's comedic, but also weird.
It's like unsettling, I think is probably what you're trying to say.
It's unsettling, yeah.
It literally looks like big ass legs
or someone running around with a white sheet over their head.
Look up pictures of this.
I'm like, not pictures.
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Oh, yeah.
Look at the video.
Well, I didn't show you pictures of what these things
look like.
Yeah.
Oh, my god.
Not pictures, but what people think they look like.
Yeah, or drawings.
That might be different.
Let's see.
Then we might be getting a little crazy.
A little crazy.
A little crazy.
Here's some.
OK, we're back.
I just realized something.
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I'm a dumb bitch.
I looked up a topic that I even know what the actual name of it was.
I think it is Night Walker.
The article you showed me said Night Crawler.
Night Crawler.
Maybe they go by both.
Can we assume that?
Yeah, maybe it is both.
I'll make sure I feel confident on which one
I'm going to put for this title, part of it.
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But I think it might be both.
Yeah, because I'm pretty sure that.
Because some are like Night Walker, some are Night Crawler.
So I think it's, yeah.
But this is kind of like what the, here, here's some pictures.
Like, I guess, of what people drew,
of what they think they look like.
Yeah, like, it just looks like.
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Like a ghost with long legs.
This one looks like a ghost with long legs.
This one's like more unsettling, but it's just a way it's drawn.
But like a ghost with some long legs.
A ghost with some long legs.
That's what I think it might be.
That's what I'm stuck on, but I think it's, I don't know.
I don't know.
So I guess, yeah, there was a YouTuber by the name of Captain
(47:35):
Delusion that wanted to debunk this lore.
So he had removed his body using special effects, wearing only
pants to mimic the video.
But oddly, I guess, from what he put in what the video might show,
still looks a little different.
Still weird, still ironic.
I mean, just, I don't know, just weird, funny, weird, whatever.
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But it was weird too on top of this,
that in 2017, the sighting of the Night Walker or Night Crawler
went global when a Polan native had
claimed to have seen the same thing, but had no footage or photos.
So they kind of got deemed to hoax really quickly.
And I guess you would if you didn't have much to show.
Wear all the receipts.
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Wear the receipts at.
Yeah, we need those.
Although, as of today, these claims have only grown more and more.
The Fresno, White Walkers, or Night Crawlers,
have actually become a huge selling point for merchandise.
It's kind of weird if you look it up.
You'll find pillows of these Night Crawlers.
You'll find just crazy things.
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People are actually wearing shirts online and stuff of this.
And it's just so weird.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind that on a pillow.
That's because it looks like a little ghost with legs.
A little ghost with long legs.
Get it, girl?
Well, as recent as April 15th of 2020 in Billings, Montana,
there was CCTV footage.
Trees are in the top of the frame.
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And about 20 seconds into the footage.
And I think this is the same footage I showed you.
About 20 seconds into the footage,
it's like this weird object that looks exactly
like the Fresno, White Walkers.
And it's seen once again gliding into an odd motion
across the screen.
It looks like a sheet, like Brie said.
It looks like someone's running with a sheet,
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or someone's like, something has literally long legs
and it's just walking around.
But yeah, and that literally is what it is.
But the weird part about this after that footage was found
is that two days earlier, a deer had been found mutilated
only a few feet away from where the CCTV footage had
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been recorded.
Scary.
The pants are cannibals.
The pants might kill you.
So.
But many claim that this entity could be something
extraterrestrial.
I mean, it would make sense with the mutilation of a deer.
This also, I'm sorry to relate to so many movies,
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but this reminds me of Jordan Pills' latest film,
Nope, that came out and it's about an alien.
Except that looks more like, I guess you got,
I don't want to spoil it if you haven't seen it,
but it looks more like a flying saucer.
But it's something more to that.
I won't give it away.
But it's kind of like that.
It kind of runs through me of a, it's kind of weird shapes
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that you wouldn't expect it to be kind of a thing.
So if it is maybe extraterrestrial,
maybe it's in a form that we just don't understand.
Yeah, that we like haven't seen before.
Yeah.
And one other quick note I wanted to make was that it's weird
because all of the, at least from what I found,
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but all of the sources at least, have only found this
to be on a camera.
They only found it to be over footage.
So either this is a hoax, either this may be a real thing
and this is something extraterrestrial.
It would explain the debt dear.
So it could be possibly and maybe it's just something
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that the human eye can't see.
That could be a possible explanation.
Yeah.
Just from the footage, I don't know.
It looks really funny because yeah, it does this look like.
It just looks like fucking pants.
Two fucking pants, dude.
Just walking, just chilling.
Just walking, two legs.
When your pants are tired, it's just like.
It's like enough.
You know when your mom would be like,
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if you had dirty pants on the floor or something,
she's like, they're going to grow legs and get up
and walk themselves.
That's literally what it looks like.
Or they're so stiff or whatever.
It's like, not yoga pants, but what are those relaxed pants?
Like a lot of, I feel like girls in the early 2000s would wear.
It's like goucho pants.
Yeah, or those funky bell bottoms.
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That would obviously be early 2000s.
That would be.
Sounds like 70s, yeah.
Yeah, but you know what I mean?
When you watch a video, it looks like that.
Because there's like flair to it.
It's like, sort of the bottom of it.
Yeah, like some like flowy.
Something flowy.
It's like, maybe it's like it.
Like I said, maybe it's a spirit or something.
Maybe it's the spirits that people have been seeing.
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Because again, I guess it can be a domino effect to people
that just say, oh, I see this because I found them online.
Maybe it's something.
Might be doing it to just, you know, be clickbait,
but or maybe, I don't know, people are saying this kind of thing.
It brings me back to like kind of like the theory of the black-eyed children.
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How, you know, there's all these different scenes
and people get weirdly depressed after like seeing them.
Weird things happen afterwards, even after.
Maybe the black-eyed children are like some kind of spirits
or maybe there's some kind of, I don't know.
It's always weird to think about.
But I kind of like this episode to cover.
(52:57):
It's kind of fun.
There's so many to.
There's so many cryptids.
Yeah, that's why we have to spread them out.
I think if you do more in the future, we'll go overseas with a lot of them.
There are really, really interesting ones in Australia I want to cover.
If you have a matter, we haven't made our way to any Australia cases, have we?
(53:18):
I don't recall.
I don't think so yet.
Not yet.
Oh, there's some really cool ones out there.
But yeah, for now, that is all we have for today's show.
Thanks for listening.
And yeah.
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We're most active on there, interact.
Let us know if you like this episode so we can make more cryptids.
Yeah, cryptids are fun to talk about.
They're creepy.
God knows there's a lot of them.
Yeah, if you live in Michigan, be wary of that dog, man.
Oh, man.
I thought we had one more too, but maybe it is just dog, man.
No, you're right.
We did talk about, we talked about the geographer who had found these
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hash clutch footprints, the first ones.
But that was like so brief.
But yeah, I hope I gave you guys a little bit of insight to cryptids.
Because again, they're so interesting.
Look them up.
Find more.
If you like any other cryptids you want to learn more about,
you know us, we'll be here to give you those stories.
And I think next week we'll take it back to a interesting, maybe
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disappearance.
Hmm.
Do another disappearance?
Maybe disappearance, maybe murder, maybe all the above.
Maybe both.
Maybe both.
You'll have to just wait and see.
Tune it.
Hell yeah.
See you next week.
See you next week, friends.
And that's, oh shit.
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Love.
What was I going with that?
Well, until then, we'll see you next.
When the light.
Maybe we won't see it at all if the lights are going out.
Oh, you switched it up on us.
Oh shit.
You can't see us because the lights went out now.
Well, until then, we will see you when the light.
(55:16):
Goes out.
Good night.
Good night.
Or good day.
Or good morning.
True.
I'm Kendall and I'm Bree and this is when the light goes out.
(00:20):
Hello all you beautiful strange humans. I hope you're having a great week today.
I'm definitely making it as great as possible. How about you over there?
I'm struggling. Not on the week just right now. My neck is killing me.
Yeah, before I show up, Bree had been sitting on the phone and kind of hunched her back over a little too long.
(00:45):
Apparently. Now I'm paying for it with neck pain. That hurts so bad.
I understand. Also happy Black History Month. I need to say that.
Yes, happy Black History Month and happy February in general.
If you are listening to this, you made it to another month. Congratulations.
(01:08):
Yay. Good job. Seriously. Good job.
I should turn my mic down a little loud.
Oops, sorry we're yelling.
My bad.
Boo. Boo. Boo.
She's looking around. She's like, what?
I'm gonna jump.
What?
I think we sound better now.
(01:30):
Okay. So yeah, yeah, happy Black History Month everyone.
Oh, oh my gosh. The other day. Not the other day. Yes. Yes.
Okay, so the by the time this comes out, obviously it's Friday.
So I'm Wednesday. I was driving to one of my friend's house for like a movie night.
And boo, I'm talking stop.
And I'm the, hold on.
(01:52):
You hear this check?
Boo. My friend should not have to parent you.
You're making me look like a bad mom.
No, she's not. Boo's just crazy.
So sorry guys. What?
What does they say? Oh, the shoot. Oh my God. No, I didn't say yeah.
Okay. So, yeah, the other day I was driving to my friend's house and I was just,
(02:14):
I just casually looked up the minute I looked up, I hit you not.
I saw what I thought was a shooting star.
Like, I think it just zip has like, I don't know.
It was just so weird because I was like, Oh, was that a plane?
But it wasn't. It was so quick that I'm like convinced that it was a meteoroid or something.
Did you make a wish?
Yeah, I did make it. I did make a wish or it could have been a UFO.
(02:37):
You never know. Tee.
That's some Tee.
That actually leads us a great segue into our topic today.
We were talking about cryptids and we're going to get a little bit into what those are.
We have two really interesting little folklores for you and I think you guys are going to enjoy it.
It's a little different for us outside of our typical murderous murder stories and such.
(03:03):
Messed up stories.
Messed up stories. Yeah, that's for sure.
So I'm like, let's just take a break from that for a week and just resume back to it.
Don't worry. We'll get more of those.
We segued into our stories, but did you see the missing girl who went missing and then she was found dead in Michigan?
Oh, no.
15 year old in Ann Arbor.
(03:26):
Oh, really?
She was missing. I saw the Facebook posts.
Literally, I think it was like maybe the day before, a couple of days before and then news just broke, I think yesterday,
that she was found deceased on her high school's football field.
What?
And they don't suspect foul play, but she was seen with the man that she didn't seem like she knew how to bust up.
(03:51):
She got out of school or something.
Yeah. You know what? Yeah. I'm assuming this is Michigan's campus?
No. No, no, no, no.
Like high school.
Oh, high school.
Oh, you did say that.
Wow.
It's like a case we got to cover with more news.
Yeah, that's definitely something to look into.
(04:12):
And even if it's something that we don't have enough info on, we can definitely start, you know, the episode just talking about that,
because I would really like to dive deeper on that.
If you guys don't have any information more about that, send it to us, because sometimes all you really have is our articles,
and articles don't always give you all the right or all the information.
(04:34):
So it's interesting. Just let me know, you know, or let Brino, whoever.
Like you're just going to text us?
No, just let us know if you have more information, though.
That's really an interesting case I didn't even know about.
Yeah, I'm shocked.
So really close to home.
I'm shocked you haven't heard that.
Wow. Yeah, no, seriously.
I know one other one that a lot have been talking about is the tragedy out in Memphis.
(04:59):
Five Memphis police officers were charged on, I think this was Thursday of this week,
with a second degree murder of African American Tyree Nichols.
He was a 29 year old who had lived in Memphis.
And I don't know anything about this video or so-called video.
A lot of people have talks about it floating around.
(05:22):
I know it's out there.
You guys can check it out if you would like to.
I'm assuming that it's a pretty brutal video, because a lot of people are talking about how it's really heart-clenching.
I know that he did call out for his mother, which is just so, so devastating to even think about that.
I'm not obviously a parent or anything.
(05:43):
But if I was, I can only imagine what a mother or father must be going through, knowing that the last thing they have with their child is of their child screaming for them.
That is terrible.
And the fact that these police officers are also black, it just comes to show you that all people, we all need to work on ourselves.
(06:06):
We all need to do better.
The fact that these cops were out on this kid like that is just, I mean, I guess not kid.
He was 29, but you know.
I've heard his name, but I didn't hear much about this case.
Yeah, I'm still learning myself about a lot of this.
And it's truly just, it's heartbreaking just to have to learn about.
(06:29):
And the fact that things like this happen are just beyond me.
At this point, it's just stupid.
Yeah, no, seriously.
It's really sad.
And you guys should definitely look more into that.
And especially just personally for me going into like Black History Month, not to just call it out because I'm black or whatever.
But in general, I mean, it's always interesting.
(06:50):
It's always good to, you know, educate yourself about, you know, the black community, the Asian community, all the different communities.
What's going on out there?
Because a lot of people are oppressed.
A lot of people have a lot going on in their lives.
And I get that we all do, but, you know, it's never a bad thing to check up with somebody or do something nice for once, you know.
(07:11):
Be decent.
Be decent. Be a decent human.
Be a good human. Be nice.
Yeah, no, seriously.
And with that said, yeah, that's pretty much all the, I think, true crime news that we had today.
Of course, we're going to keep you guys updated with the other case that Brie had mentioned because that, that, wow, that's terrible.
I just don't understand how no foul play was like suspected.
(07:34):
Yeah. No, that really sounds.
It sounds suspicious to me, but.
No, it sounds suspicious to me too, myself.
Yeah, it's so fresh, so we'll see.
But.
Oh, that's crazy.
Definitely tragedy. That's for sure.
Dang. Wow.
We'll take it a little, I guess, to a creepy side of things.
Because like I said before, we're doing an episode today about cryptids.
(07:56):
Spooky.
Spooky.
Oh, it's you.
No, literally her cat's name is Boo if you don't remember.
So that's that.
Boo.
It doesn't say a lot about Brie's personality.
I don't know what does.
I did almost name my other cat Spooky, but I thought it was silly.
So then we named her Honey.
I didn't know that actually.
(08:17):
So then we named her Honey and Honey slowly turned into Bunny.
Because Bunny is cuter.
What a cute little like.
Bunny.
Backstory. Wow.
She has such, she has a better back story than I have.
I'm gay for my cat.
So it turned from Honey into like something super like cutesy.
Yeah. No, I get that. I love that.
Damn. Well, yeah.
(08:38):
So like I said, we're getting a little bit into our cryptids and so basically I guess
some might ask what are cryptids according to, and this is just according to a definition
on Miramon Webster dictionary.
A cryptid is a animal that has been claimed to exist, but not ever proven to exist.
(08:59):
We're calling out the dictionary.
Yeah, I literally did.
So dictionary definition.
You know me.
And of course with any story, with anything that we do, we have to throw it back like this
ass.
Throw it back.
Only your ass.
We have to go and throw it back a little bit to some origins.
(09:20):
So in 1955, Crypto Zoology was established as a field of study where the term and practice
had been announced or had been, I guess, really out there and of being around the 15th century,
you know, that time.
15th century, I would say like like BC era.
(09:44):
You know, not that long ago.
It wasn't that long ago, right?
You know, so Crypto Zoology itself is a pseudoscience where Crypto Zoologists search and study for
the unknown existence of the survival of undiscovered animals and creatures.
A lot of the cryptids that we all know of and have been often disputed about for centuries
(10:10):
actually would probably be the common Yari or the Sasquatch, the Lachas monster, the
Chupacabra.
The one.
Yeah, maybe.
That's all I know of it, but I'm sure there's some type of pronunciation.
Some type of pronunciation.
Don't at me, anyone.
All the basic ones that everybody knows.
(10:31):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
So, I mean, those are like, I feel like at least you have to know one of them.
Oh yeah, because right now.
At least if not, yeah.
Bigfoot.
Bigfoot.
That's Sasquatch.
I guess that's Sasquatch, yeah.
I think the difference in the Yeti and the Sasquatch would be like.
Well, Yeti's snow.
Yeti's snow.
Bigfoot.
If you guys have seen Monster's Sands, you would know.
Or Scooby-Doo.
(10:52):
Scooby-Doo.
I think Scooby-Doo had episodes with them.
Oh yeah, definitely.
Yeah, actually, you know what?
I think they had like all of them.
I feel like there was a Loch Ness one.
There was every.
There was definitely Loch Ness one.
There was definitely Yeti one.
Sight-Know.
There was a Chupacabra for sure.
Wait, Sight-Know, have you seen, oh, I'm sure you haven't seen.
Bree has not watched anything, but um.
(11:13):
No.
I don't know if you guys have seen, but I kind of like it.
And I guess this is my popular opinion, but there's a new Velma TV show that's out on
HBO.
If you have HBO Max as the streaming service.
And it's the voice of Mindy Kaling.
I think I said her name right.
And she again also does, what's it, Sex Lies to College Girls, great show.
(11:39):
Anyways, that show is really good.
You guys should check that out.
And it just reminds me of like all the like cool mystery stuff and everything.
You guys like mysteries, so I'm assuming, hey, maybe they'll like it.
Check it out.
I should probably check that out.
Yeah, that's not an ad by the way.
That's just, I like it.
It's just a recommendation.
Just a recommendation.
But if you guys want to, you know, feature as Mindy, I'm here.
(12:01):
Um, but yeah, no, we kind of understand all of those different cryptids and stuff.
So it's not a huge question mark or anything.
And like I said, the earliest we know of the curiosity of cryptids and studying them dates back to the 15th century in Egypt.
So at the time Egypt was being ruled by a Egyptian pharaoh and she was a queen, literally, queen hot sheep.
(12:28):
Hot she's, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna try.
She was a queen.
Queen age.
Queen age.
Yeah, that's, that's perfect.
And she would allow ships of her own and her own trusted men to go out and discover and they just traveled down the Red Sea and her curiosity just woke when this group of Egyptian Egyptians had returned to Egypt with a creature that was really unknown and exotic to them.
(12:59):
They would call this, which was translated in hydrogliphics.
I cannot say that at first.
Hydrogliphics.
Thank you to say long neck dragon, which today we know to be the typical giraffe.
So I thought that was kind of cute.
Long neck dragon.
Being a giraffe.
Okay, this long neck dragon.
(13:23):
What that neck do.
Oh my God, any who one of the earliest individuals to actually write books about the exotic and undiscovered creatures was a Roman author by the name of pinley the elder.
Now, in 77 AD, pinley had written about his journey across each Africa and Indica and recorded his findings of leopards and snakes, but also abnormally overgrown insects and even finds seen as softly.
(13:54):
That basically is described today to be, you know, the head of a dog.
Sorry, the head of a dog, the body of a man, kind of like a skin locker or a werewolf.
So that's kind of like what that is.
And then in 1811, geographer David Thompson was the first person to scientifically document his sighting of a Sasquatch and its footprints in Washington State.
(14:16):
Certainly after he documented this finding, he spoke to some natives from the Spokane tribe of Washington State about the Cascade Mountains.
And then Thompson had withheld his odd and mysterious findings from this tribe to kind of avoid, you know, the tribal members using any other find his findings to contra a false story.
(14:39):
So he just held that, you know, from them.
And weirdly enough, when David had finished interviewing the natives, he found that nearly everyone he spoke to had mentioned giants that lived in the mountain ranges west of their lands.
So it was the same area where he had encountered seeing all the ape-like figures leaving behind massive prints.
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So that was just kind of a background because you know me, could I help but give you that because I know that I love some history on things.
We love some history on this podcast.
This podcast, but let's get into our topic that we have.
And Bree, what is this going to be for us?
So our first story starts with the Michigan dog man.
(15:26):
Oh.
Bum bum bum.
Shout out Michigan.
Hey Michigan.
Shout out people who like dogs.
I'm excited for those.
And men.
I feel like I'm going to eat dogs and men.
I feel like we should go look for this now.
Maybe not.
We'll look for the dog man.
Maybe not.
Pack up the Bronco and.
(15:47):
Yeah, seriously.
Pack up my Bronco and just head out for the dog man.
I'm here for you.
I'm going to take a little adventure up to the UP.
Literally, I love it.
Alrighty.
So the Michigan dog man is supposedly a creature described to be about seven foot tall with a torso of a man with the head of a wolf.
(16:10):
It is often found with bright amber or blue colored eyes and is said that it's how it doesn't sound like wolf's how, but a human scream.
That's actually like terrifying.
Yeah.
Imagine.
Oh, I just got shivers.
A body of a man, head of a wolf, amber colored eyes with a human scream.
I don't like that.
What the fuck?
(16:31):
I don't like that at all.
All I'm saying is a butterfly.
I'd be out of that bitch.
Yeah.
Imagine like seeing a creature come up to you and then it's screaming at you, but not with that.
A human scream.
But it has a wolf head.
Oh.
Damn.
Oh, I don't like that.
No, I'm good.
Ew.
The first alleged signing of this creature was in 1887 when a group of lumberjacks were working a long shift in Wicksford County, Michigan, which I've never heard of.
(17:02):
I'm actually never going to be there.
It's probably because it's in the UP or no, it's not because I look actually if I'm looking at the map, I think that's higher like northern Michigan.
So it's like, yeah, you guys don't know this.
You guys don't.
Maybe you don't.
If you don't live in Michigan, maybe you don't know this.
You're not going to get it.
But if you know me, I'm showing brief by like holding up my hand because if you look at Michigan, it looks like a big ass mitten and I'm pretty much showing her the north and that's that's where it is.
(17:30):
I love our men.
That's what we do.
Shout out to anyone in Wicksford County.
I have no idea where that is.
You never know.
Now I know.
I need to pull up a map or something.
I do too.
Us down like south, Michigan.
We're okay.
Yeah we don't travel up north or why we're in that doesn't happen.
(17:55):
So anyway, these lumberjacks, they worked a long shift and as they're packing up their equipment for the day.
They all allegedly witnessed seeing a horrific wolf like man staring right at them behind a tree.
So they're packing up their shit.
They look out into the trees and there's a wolf man.
Just staring at them.
(18:18):
What would you do in that matter?
A run.
But I feel like if you run, wanna just.
Get in the car, drive away.
If this is me, I'm done for.
I'm just gonna say my prayers now and just do it out.
I'm gonna be like, we'll see what happens.
Let's hope for the best.
I'm fine.
So when they finally acknowledge it,
it's literally standing on its hind legs,
(18:39):
and then it begins to crouch over and circle them
as if it was hungry.
It was like great predatory.
Yeah, but luckily something startled it off
and then allowed the men to just pack up their truck
and totally leave.
Sure that made for an interesting car ride home.
Yeah, definitely.
(18:59):
It was either completely silent
or it was definitely like what was that?
And this does, well, you said the 1800s,
so this is not obviously,
they don't have motherfucking cameras to,
or not cameras, but sorry, photography,
or like phones to whip out and be like,
oh my God, a wolf man, but.
Yeah, are you 1887?
(19:20):
I wonder what type of truck they were driving.
Yeah, same.
Anyway, it is said that the Michigan dog man
has been most often reported
seeing around the Manistee River.
I've heard of that, okay.
I know, I think I know where that is.
I've definitely heard of that.
Manistee, like that sounds really familiar.
Yeah, since the 20th century when the Ottawa tribes
(19:43):
had lived in the northern Michigan area.
On a popular YouTube web series called What Lurks Beneath,
an episode had been released on September 12th, 2022,
so last year, recent,
that featured an interview with 59 year old truck driver,
Joe Barger, who had also had an encounter with the dog man.
(20:05):
Barger explained that in June of 2017,
so that's still kind of recent.
Yeah, very recent.
Compared to 1887, he was transporting a 43,000 pound
load of paper from a mill in Northern Michigan
and often took the same route.
And later one afternoon,
he's driving down the main road through the woods.
(20:27):
He gets one of those weird feelings,
probably something like eyes around you, right?
Yeah, like that feeling.
You're talking, we're just talking about that
in the Night Stalker, those eyes onto you,
and you feel a guy's run.
Yeah, something's off me off.
Something's off, yeah.
Yeah, so he knew something was off
because he pulls over, checks his truck,
and then he realizes that an air leak
(20:49):
by the back brake chamber of the trailer,
the truck was pulling.
So there's an air leak
by the back brake chamber of the trailer.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm following, I'm following.
You're following, you're really following.
All of a sudden,
we're trying to temporarily fix the problem.
Barger says he began getting chills
with the sense of I shouldn't be here.
(21:11):
And immediately he got right back into his truck.
There were no cars in sight,
but he knew the truck issue wasn't very vital,
so he could drive until he had that next gas station.
Barger then says, quote,
I started hearing a vocalization that wasn't natural.
It wasn't a sound I heard before.
I was looking around
and I saw some shadowing in the wood line,
(21:33):
but there was plenty of light to see.
It was nowhere near getting dark yet.
I was in bear country,
so I perceived the shadowing to be a black bear at the time.
End quote.
And it like the pit.
So Kendall showed me pictures before we started,
and I definitely was like, that looks like a bear.
That went on Jen and Craig.
The one I found of this, yeah,
(21:54):
it definitely sound like a bear on steroids.
I'm not steroids.
Not on steroids.
Not on steroids.
Like on Jen and Craig.
I'll post it.
On a diet.
It's a really.
If you guys want to see the one I'm referring to,
I'll post it on Instagram.
When the light goes on.
No, WTLGO podcast.
Correct, yes.
It'll be there.
On Instagram.
Check that out and tell us,
(22:15):
cause it does look like a bear with shades for.
It's like a thin, she said skinny, she said Mariah Carey.
Like it has a big ass head of a bear,
but it looks like the body of a man.
Yeah, but I wouldn't compare the head to the wolf.
It was definitely a bear.
It looked like a bear head.
In the picture, yeah.
Yeah, which is so creepy.
Yeah, no kidding.
And he did say that it was bear country,
so.
(22:35):
Oh, the bears out here, what they doing?
They're bear human, like combination.
I don't want to think about that.
Someone getting jiggled with a bear.
Ew, people are weird.
I could see that.
Shit.
This is 2023.
I would not be surprised.
That one either.
Yikes.
I got their rice purity score down to a zero.
(22:56):
Oh, no.
Oh no.
Literally.
So he gets back out.
He finishes fixing that back break chamber.
He climbs back into this truck and he heads down the road
at about 25 miles per hour.
When he looks over to his left rear veal mirror
to see a massive wolf-like being with human-like features
(23:17):
trotting besides this truck, that's terrifying.
Oh.
Barzor then explains this absolute shock in the moment,
saying, quote, time slowed down.
I thought I was in an alternative reality or something
because a creature like this doesn't exist in a reality
I've ever known of, end quote.
Imagine literally just like driving down.
(23:38):
Something like that starts trotting beside you.
Yeah, because she's only going like 25 miles per hour.
So imagine like driving down your neighborhood street
and there's just like a dog man trotting next to your car.
I cannot stress this enough, guys.
You're listening to this.
I promise you, you're able to go onto her Instagram
and look at this picture that I'm referring to.
(23:59):
I'm thinking of that picture.
Like chasing me, like that creeps me.
No, yeah, and this is recent too.
Ah!
It's just like a little skinny ass bear
like trotting next to your car going down fucking telegraph
like trotting, not even like running.
(24:22):
You know what that reminds me of?
Have you ever seen, what's that one film?
Scary stories that tell in the dark.
Yeah.
The one that's based on the book.
Yeah.
OK.
Have you seen it?
Do you remember?
Episodes.
Do you remember that thing that was like running when the kids
were like leaving the jail or whatever?
And it's like the old man that turns into like the rocking
(24:46):
thing.
I have to say.
No.
Maybe you guys know what I'm talking about.
I don't know what it's called specifically,
but that's what I think of when I think of this thing.
And it's super creepy.
I'm going to look it up real quick.
Please hold.
This is the best I can get from it.
This is what I think of.
This is what was in the movie that was like.
(25:07):
That's actually really scary.
I told you.
That's what I think of.
Oh, wait.
Was this the scary story that's telling the dark movie?
That movie that came out like recent?
Yeah.
What was that that?
Yeah, it wasn't long ago.
I have a piece of it.
I did see that, but I don't remember that part.
But that was like the haunted house.
No.
I think you're thinking of it.
I think that's different.
Yeah.
(25:27):
You know, I know you're talking about.
Is that like the old, like early 2000s?
There's a movie?
Guys, there's a movie.
The movie I'm talking about is the one based on the book.
Yeah, it's based on it.
Maybe you did see it, but you don't remember that specific.
Like it came out in 2019.
So it was.
OK, I'm definitely talking about that.
But there was like a house.
(25:47):
Like that, right?
Yeah.
But there was like a house, I thought.
Yeah, there was a house.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
There was like a creepy house and a lady
locked in it or something.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, I don't remember that part, though.
Oh, that part.
How could you not remember that part?
To be honest, I don't know.
I don't remember the guy's, the thing's name,
but it's so freaking creepy.
And like you guys have to look it up.
It's like, I don't know what to even call that.
(26:09):
It has a name.
It's bugging me.
But anyways, we'll move on.
Sorry, go ahead.
First, I thought you were talking about, all right.
Oh, at first I thought you were talking about,
are you afraid of the dark?
Oh, no, no, no.
Yeah.
The old series.
Anyway.
OK.
And so Joe Barger described the creature having black,
(26:29):
long hair covering its body, a lot of sharp teeth
that were oddly pretty clean and white,
three inch long fangs, top and bottom, black pointed ears,
yellowish brown eyes, 14 inch human-like hands,
and the entire time it was following his car,
it sneered at him and made human-like screaming noises
(26:49):
as if it was hungry or waiting to be fed.
That is a description.
And that's a very detailed description.
He's like 14 inch fingers.
Yeah.
Or hands.
Maybe it's giving a rough estimate.
I guess I would too.
What the fuck is that?
What is what?
What's on the ground?
A toy.
Oh my god.
I'm sorry.
(27:10):
I'm sorry.
You scared me.
You scared me.
The brown thing?
Yes.
It looks like a rat from here.
Oh, yeah.
I'm sorry.
Bro, you fucking scared this shit.
I don't know my glasses on.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to scare you.
Shit out of me.
I'm looking out there and I'm like, I don't see anything.
What the fuck are you looking at?
I'm sorry.
I didn't know.
(27:31):
Boo sensed it.
Boo sensed my fear.
She's like, bitch.
My heart is missing so much.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't mean to scare you like that.
Yeah, it's a toy.
It's like one of the modern toys,
but it's just like a ball fur on the end.
And Boo loves it.
It's not only me, though.
From here, it looks like a.
It looks like.
I guess if you don't have your glasses on.
(27:51):
I thought it was like a big turn.
Like from here.
I guess so.
It looks like a giant turn.
Oh, god.
I'm sorry.
God, Jesus.
I told you not to mean to do that.
I really did.
I did see your face after I scared you like that.
And I felt so bad instantly.
I'm sorry.
Oh, god.
Proceed.
God damn, I'm scarier than this goddamn story.
(28:14):
Than that goddamn picture you showed me.
Yeah, that's kind of freaking me out now.
I'm like, oh.
Anyway, now that I got my goddamn breath back,
Barger steps on his gas pedal and reaches down
to pull out his 45 coat revolver that
had been strapped to his waist.
(28:34):
He slows down and reaches out of his window
to fire out three shots at the creature.
He says that he managed to shoot it once, which
seems to have harmed it.
In distress and shock, Barger stops the car
and takes a couple of deep breaths.
And as he put his head back up, he
looked back to see that, oh my god,
that the creature was completely gone.
(28:54):
Oh, shit.
So this is.
Got shot, disappeared.
It's like, hell no, I'm out of here, bitch.
It's like.
Got to go.
Oh, wow.
OK.
It took off.
Yeah, literally.
Get out of dodge, bitch.
Get out of dodge.
After he shares, he felt a sense of security
with the gun enough to get out of the car
to look for any blood, footprints, or hair,
(29:15):
but found absolutely nothing.
Coincidentally, Barger had continued driving up the road,
wearing a couple miles away, was a couple
standing outside their jeep on the side of the road.
Barger then says he stopped to see
if they needed any assistance in fear of what he had just seen.
But there were women replied with a no
and mentioned that her and her husband had just seen two bears
(29:35):
fighting with an even bigger animal
and couldn't figure out what they had just seen.
In a worry to start a panic explaining his experience,
Barger strongly suggested that the two got back in their car
and stayed safe from any bears and drove off.
Oh, shit.
Of course it doesn't.
No, why would it?
A couple years after this took place in 2019,
(29:57):
a family member convinced Joe Barger
to release his story to the public to warn or inform others.
So Joe found a podcaster willing to share his experience
but wanted to stay anonymous.
So had the podcaster read his story for him
under an anonymous name.
Anonymous.
Three months later, after the episode released,
(30:19):
Barger claims to have been randomly detained
by federal authorities for tampering with an investigation.
Hell no.
He was even.
That's Mindenblac right there.
Literally, he was given no further information
about the investigation after a brief hold was released.
What?
What investigation, Michigan?
(30:42):
Wexford County?
I just got chills.
Like, whoa.
Like, they just come to.
So imagine like, sorry, already getting
scarred from this motherfucking walking man bear, man person,
man wolf.
And then you're like afraid to already talk about it.
(31:03):
So you're convinced.
And you're like, fine, I'll talk about it.
Maybe it'll make me feel better.
Because I would do that.
I could see that happening.
But then you go to someone like us for a podcast.
And then, of course, how did they even find it?
That's what I was about to say.
Like, how did they know it was him?
That's mysterious.
Unless they like, hounded the podcaster.
The podcaster to give them things.
Yeah.
(31:23):
And I mean, at that point, like.
No shade.
But the government's going to ask.
They're going to get some information.
Yeah, they're going to get information.
Oh, that's so scary.
But you know what?
Insight note from that.
Sorry, real quick.
I always forget that there's that conspiracy
that they're listening in on your phones.
(31:44):
Yeah.
On everything.
Your everythings.
I actually did have an Alexa for a minute,
but I got rid of it.
Because I just couldn't do with the whole similarities
between all the things I talk about.
So for instance, literally the other day,
we were talking about, my friends and I
(32:05):
were talking about something stupid, like the New Harry
Potter game, I think that's coming out or something.
This new Harry Potter game.
And I kid you not on my phone, as I was looking through,
probably researching my stuff, I see an ad for the Harry
Potter game.
And I kid you not two days later, when he had talked about,
(32:25):
I think it was another movie.
That same movie just popped up.
It was just so weird.
And I've had that happen so many times.
I actually did just have that happen very recently.
And I think it was for a place.
But I can't remember what it was.
But I do remember specifically talking
about the Addams family one time, and specifically Wednesday,
like back before the Netflix show and everything
(32:48):
way before that.
And I started getting ads for Wednesday dresses.
And I was like, what the fuck?
Like on Facebook.
And I was like, what the fuck?
I swear they know your algorithm.
They know everything about you.
Like, guys, be cautious about that shit.
And I think I said this before, too.
But just also for fair warning, if you're on Instagram
(33:12):
or anything, just remember to make sure you block your location.
Because yeah, don't.
Yeah, that is very smart to block your location.
Yeah, I do that.
So back to the story, one more important note to add
was on a wildlife podcast called Wildtalk Podcast, a wildlife
(33:33):
expert from the Michigan History Center, Rachel Clark,
mentions the center receiving hundreds of weird findings
around the state, including the dog man.
But the sightings always weirdly seem
to happen in years that end in seven, so every 10 years.
In 1987, she explains that a radio disc
Jackie named Steve Cook recorded a song about the dog man
(33:55):
called The Legend, which was kind of something
he saw as a joke at first until dozens of people
began calling into the radio station reporting of having
encounters of this alleged Michigan dog man.
That's kind of crazy.
Oh, my gosh.
Every encounter has been reportedly
similar to one another, with many claiming
to see this creature in the woods, near highways,
(34:17):
and even attempting to peep through their windows.
Not that nice.
Stop it.
But if you're curious to track down the mysterious myth,
it is set to reappear in 2027 in and around the Manistee
area of Michigan.
So keep your eyes peeled on your highways, your forests,
and out your windows.
Lexford County, because dog man is coming out in,
(34:41):
what are we in, three, four, five, six, four years?
Four years?
Four years.
Oh, shit.
I have to move out of Michigan.
I have to go.
No, we're fine.
We're so far away from that.
Oh, that is fair.
Yeah.
Maybe we should still, you know, no, maybe not.
I can't deal if I saw some wolf man.
No, I'd have to actually rethink life.
(35:02):
Like, sorry, I got to call it a work.
Speaking of Wednesday, I can also
see the wolf man being that, like that thing,
that it was like that creature thing from Wednesday.
Oh, yeah.
My god, I can't even think of the name of it.
But yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because he turns into it.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Spooky.
Creepy curtee.
(35:23):
Spooky.
Anyone that's a werewolf.
Please don't hurt anyone.
Please don't hurt anyone.
There.
All right.
So the story I have for you guys,
or more so the cryptid that I have for you guys today,
is the Fresnel Nightcrawlers.
So the story all starts on November 5th, 2007,
(35:45):
precisely two days before my birthday.
How was I about to say that?
That was fun.
In Fresnel, California, Amanda had only given
the name of Jose to the public, had
brought forward chilling surveillance of something
really weird that had been on his surveillance camera when
(36:06):
he had put it out on his lawn in the wee hours of the night.
And yes, I did say we.
So.
The wee hours of the night.
So Jose had initially installed a camera
since he his garage because neighbors beforehand,
before this night, had kept mentioning
hearing strange noises outside at night.
Items like decor outside decor, which
(36:28):
is gone missing from around their houses.
All the dogs in the area would just
go mad almost every single night for at least a week straight.
And assuming some kids may have been
messing with the neighborhood, Jose had just set up a camera
and put it on top of his house.
And would just see if he could catch anything.
Keep in mind, this is 2007.
(36:49):
So there were no rain doorbells or anything,
unfortunately, like we have now.
So I mean, obviously, that was a long time ago,
but still recent.
Like we're not talking about 1800s.
Yeah, we're not talking about 2000s.
We talking about recent.
We were alive.
Yeah, no, we were.
No, yeah, we're talking like Nicki Minaj era.
I guess she's still.
(37:10):
Nicki Minaj era.
Sorry.
Oh, god.
Let me not say that.
The Barb's are going to come for me.
Oh, sit.
Not the Barb's.
The Barb's.
Love you Barb's.
But no, yes.
2007, I would suggest he would have like a shitty outside
camera, but like not one of those nice ones.
Yeah, can't go on your phone and unfortunately check
(37:32):
to see who's at your door.
But he did have one.
And so when he goes back to check the footage the next day,
he is confused because all he's seeing in this video
is what looks like a pair of white pajama plants,
as he says, gliding through the line with no body attached
to them.
Bro, seriously, when he showed me this video.
(37:53):
I did show.
I was like, it literally looks like a pair of pantaloons
are running through the grass.
I'm going to again, I'm going to post this onto our Instagram.
I think I can post a video.
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to post a CCTV footage of this.
Literally, it's like.
A pair of pants.
It's it's like creepy, but like funny at the same time.
(38:14):
A pair of pants, no torso, just legs.
And then there are parts like there are parts where very
obviously you can see a separation.
But then there are also parts where it kind of blends together
to the point where it almost looks like someone running
with a blanket.
Yes, it does.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's really, I don't know.
Me making my like midnight run to 7-Eleven with the blanket
(38:36):
over my body.
Yeah, look up this video.
You can look up a lot of videos.
And basically, if you want to look up a video,
I think you can just really just look up the Fresno Night Walk
on night.
Like he's saying, oh, I keep wanting to say Night Walker.
It's Night Crawlers.
Sorry.
We're still stuck on the Toronto.
The Night Stalker, the Night Walker, and the Night Crawler.
(38:57):
Literally, the Night Crawlers.
So if you want to, you can definitely look that was up the video.
Again, to me.
I go off to the pantaloons for yourself.
The video to me, literally, it's like so funny.
It's creepy in a way.
It's like, why are they, the way they're like swaying.
Something's like wacky inflatable tube man.
That's what it looks like.
(39:17):
Oh my god.
That's exactly what it looks like.
And it's like, what the fuck is going on?
Like very fluid motion.
Fluid motion.
But the video itself, obviously, like he was saying,
it's 2007, so it's not that great.
It's very grainy.
But you can definitely make it out.
Yeah, definitely.
I'd be curious to see what the fuck it was.
I'm like a now security camera.
Like we're talking color.
(39:38):
We're talking.
Oh yeah, like all the get up.
Yeah, we're talking.
Nothing we can see some shit.
Oh my god.
Imagine if you could see a clear picture
and it's something that's spooky.
That's what I'm saying.
Like what if it was recorded recent?
Watch it literally just be like someone in some big ass pants.
Well, hold on.
Because some people have seen some weird floating
(40:01):
pants throughout the States.
And I'm like, huh.
Flotting pants.
Interesting.
Love.
I love floating pants.
OK, so sorry, where were we?
So with the kind of tape that he had around the time,
the footage tape that he had, he couldn't rewind the tape
more than two or three times because he'd
be recording over his capture footage.
(40:22):
So unfortunately, I think that's just the time.
So he had to use his camcorder to record the TV footage
that he got to CC TV footage.
And so when it showed, it showed as kind of grainy
and really hard to see.
And he showed this as brother and his family members.
Now, filming a phenomenon like this
is kind of ruining the authenticity of it
(40:46):
to have to film it that way.
But the video did get a lot of attention shortly after
and even caught the attention of paranormal investigator Victor
Kalantash.
And when he showed up to Jose's house,
he inspected the entire property but didn't find really
anything until he checked out the backyard where
(41:08):
the camera was mounted, excuse me,
and found oddly shaped prints in the mud behind the house,
hoping to grab the attention of police.
He had called them.
He had notified them.
But it just so happens that that same day,
it started to rain.
And the prints that they have found washed away.
(41:30):
Of course it did.
Of course it did.
Of course it did.
Why would it be?
So police and paranormal investigators
had seen the footage, but they were stumped on this
and did not really know what to make of this video.
And what was caught on that footage is really,
probably became a question mark for everybody.
The weird and strange occurrences around this neighborhood
actually just ceased to stop.
(41:51):
They just ceased all at once.
So weird that that would happen.
Now, the only odd case in this mystery,
or the truly odd case in this mystery,
is that Jose seemed fine after this footage had been found.
But weeks after he began to get so shaken up
by the occurrence that he saw in the CCTV footage,
(42:12):
that he refused to leave the house,
assuming that the entities that had came
will return for some reason in anger.
And Jose never really was the same after that,
unfortunately, according to sources.
And after this fear had led up a lot of the pent-up feelings
(42:32):
that he had, it kind of led to his unfortunate death
and a car accident.
So unfortunately, I think a lot of, at the time, at least
a lot of researchers were trying to ask some questions,
trying to get a lot out what he was kind of seeing
what was happening afterwards.
He didn't really want to open up about it.
And fortunately, yeah, it just kind of took a toll on him.
(42:56):
Yeah.
So his story actually got so big,
it was a headline story on the Univision television station.
And ironically, on December 12, 2014,
a 60-year-old former Marine and his wife
were driving down the highway in Carmel, California,
which I don't think is too far from Fresno, but I don't know.
(43:19):
And when they came up over a hill,
he had seen entities oddly similar to the ones
similar to the same thing that Jose had seen.
The former Marine described his creature,
he had seen being seven feet tall, thin,
with a solid white torso, or sorry, not torso,
but legs with no body, and appeared
(43:41):
to be walking with muscular legs.
But what really creeps him out was that the knees
seemed backwards.
Weird.
So it's just some legs with some backward ass legs.
Broken legs walking.
That's really what he described it to be.
That's so weird.
The former Marine's wife would later
recount not seeing the entity herself,
but knowing her already skeptic husband had seen something
(44:03):
truly bone-chilling that day, no pun intended,
and after had been stuck with an odd depressive state,
which is weird because it's kind of similar to Jose.
Can I cut in real quick and say that instead of the night
crawler, it definitely should be called the Nightwalker.
(44:26):
Yeah, it should be.
Because the Nightcrawler is walking, bitch.
It's walking.
Maybe they named it the Nightwalker
because the Nightstalker was.
No, they named it the Nightcrawler.
The Nightwalker, oh, yeah.
Oh, fuck.
I'm getting all these mixed up.
There's so many.
I'm thinking of the Night, the White Walkers
from Motherfucking came with drones.
I'm thinking of the Nightcrawler, the Nightstalker.
(44:48):
The Nightcrawler, Nightstrawler, Night.
We got them all.
Oh, my god.
That's, but no, going back to the actual story,
that's really sad that it seems like it really
takes a toll on these people.
It kind of reminds me of, and we didn't really
see anything about people maybe dying,
but I think we did see a weird similarity between the Black
(45:08):
Eye children when we covered that story.
Yeah, we're definitely like, it takes a toll on people.
I mean, I see why, and I understand why people
wouldn't want to talk about it that much.
They'd want to spread the news of it when they first see it.
But then it probably sits with them for a while.
It probably sits with them.
What the fuck was that?
And it's like, when it's only you that sees something,
it can only imagine that it's going to make you feel crazier.
(45:30):
Yeah, and then people calling you crazy
probably is going to help you there.
Yeah, with the world we live in, oh, my god.
But it's like, what can we really believe these days?
But yeah, like we had said, when you look up CCTV,
but it's TCCTV.
CCTV.
TV footage.
Thank you.
(45:50):
You will come across what literally just looks like.
To be honest, it made me laugh.
So I don't know.
It's comedic, but also weird.
It's like unsettling, I think is probably what you're trying to say.
It's unsettling, yeah.
It literally looks like big ass legs
or someone running around with a white sheet over their head.
Look up pictures of this.
I'm like, not pictures.
(46:11):
Oh, yeah.
Look at the video.
Well, I didn't show you pictures of what these things
look like.
Yeah.
Oh, my god.
Not pictures, but what people think they look like.
Yeah, or drawings.
That might be different.
Let's see.
Then we might be getting a little crazy.
A little crazy.
A little crazy.
Here's some.
OK, we're back.
I just realized something.
(46:32):
I'm a dumb bitch.
I looked up a topic that I even know what the actual name of it was.
I think it is Night Walker.
The article you showed me said Night Crawler.
Night Crawler.
Maybe they go by both.
Can we assume that?
Yeah, maybe it is both.
I'll make sure I feel confident on which one
I'm going to put for this title, part of it.
(46:52):
But I think it might be both.
Yeah, because I'm pretty sure that.
Because some are like Night Walker, some are Night Crawler.
So I think it's, yeah.
But this is kind of like what the, here, here's some pictures.
Like, I guess, of what people drew,
of what they think they look like.
Yeah, like, it just looks like.
(47:13):
Like a ghost with long legs.
This one looks like a ghost with long legs.
This one's like more unsettling, but it's just a way it's drawn.
But like a ghost with some long legs.
A ghost with some long legs.
That's what I think it might be.
That's what I'm stuck on, but I think it's, I don't know.
I don't know.
So I guess, yeah, there was a YouTuber by the name of Captain
(47:35):
Delusion that wanted to debunk this lore.
So he had removed his body using special effects, wearing only
pants to mimic the video.
But oddly, I guess, from what he put in what the video might show,
still looks a little different.
Still weird, still ironic.
I mean, just, I don't know, just weird, funny, weird, whatever.
(47:58):
But it was weird too on top of this,
that in 2017, the sighting of the Night Walker or Night Crawler
went global when a Polan native had
claimed to have seen the same thing, but had no footage or photos.
So they kind of got deemed to hoax really quickly.
And I guess you would if you didn't have much to show.
Wear all the receipts.
(48:18):
Wear the receipts at.
Yeah, we need those.
Although, as of today, these claims have only grown more and more.
The Fresno, White Walkers, or Night Crawlers,
have actually become a huge selling point for merchandise.
It's kind of weird if you look it up.
You'll find pillows of these Night Crawlers.
You'll find just crazy things.
(48:41):
People are actually wearing shirts online and stuff of this.
And it's just so weird.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind that on a pillow.
That's because it looks like a little ghost with legs.
A little ghost with long legs.
Get it, girl?
Well, as recent as April 15th of 2020 in Billings, Montana,
there was CCTV footage.
Trees are in the top of the frame.
(49:03):
And about 20 seconds into the footage.
And I think this is the same footage I showed you.
About 20 seconds into the footage,
it's like this weird object that looks exactly
like the Fresno, White Walkers.
And it's seen once again gliding into an odd motion
across the screen.
It looks like a sheet, like Brie said.
It looks like someone's running with a sheet,
(49:24):
or someone's like, something has literally long legs
and it's just walking around.
But yeah, and that literally is what it is.
But the weird part about this after that footage was found
is that two days earlier, a deer had been found mutilated
only a few feet away from where the CCTV footage had
(49:46):
been recorded.
Scary.
The pants are cannibals.
The pants might kill you.
So.
But many claim that this entity could be something
extraterrestrial.
I mean, it would make sense with the mutilation of a deer.
This also, I'm sorry to relate to so many movies,
(50:08):
but this reminds me of Jordan Pills' latest film,
Nope, that came out and it's about an alien.
Except that looks more like, I guess you got,
I don't want to spoil it if you haven't seen it,
but it looks more like a flying saucer.
But it's something more to that.
I won't give it away.
But it's kind of like that.
It kind of runs through me of a, it's kind of weird shapes
(50:28):
that you wouldn't expect it to be kind of a thing.
So if it is maybe extraterrestrial,
maybe it's in a form that we just don't understand.
Yeah, that we like haven't seen before.
Yeah.
And one other quick note I wanted to make was that it's weird
because all of the, at least from what I found,
(50:49):
but all of the sources at least, have only found this
to be on a camera.
They only found it to be over footage.
So either this is a hoax, either this may be a real thing
and this is something extraterrestrial.
It would explain the debt dear.
So it could be possibly and maybe it's just something
(51:10):
that the human eye can't see.
That could be a possible explanation.
Yeah.
Just from the footage, I don't know.
It looks really funny because yeah, it does this look like.
It just looks like fucking pants.
Two fucking pants, dude.
Just walking, just chilling.
Just walking, two legs.
When your pants are tired, it's just like.
It's like enough.
You know when your mom would be like,
(51:33):
if you had dirty pants on the floor or something,
she's like, they're going to grow legs and get up
and walk themselves.
That's literally what it looks like.
Or they're so stiff or whatever.
It's like, not yoga pants, but what are those relaxed pants?
Like a lot of, I feel like girls in the early 2000s would wear.
It's like goucho pants.
Yeah, or those funky bell bottoms.
(51:54):
That would obviously be early 2000s.
That would be.
Sounds like 70s, yeah.
Yeah, but you know what I mean?
When you watch a video, it looks like that.
Because there's like flair to it.
It's like, sort of the bottom of it.
Yeah, like some like flowy.
Something flowy.
It's like, maybe it's like it.
Like I said, maybe it's a spirit or something.
Maybe it's the spirits that people have been seeing.
(52:15):
Because again, I guess it can be a domino effect to people
that just say, oh, I see this because I found them online.
Maybe it's something.
Might be doing it to just, you know, be clickbait,
but or maybe, I don't know, people are saying this kind of thing.
It brings me back to like kind of like the theory of the black-eyed children.
(52:36):
How, you know, there's all these different scenes
and people get weirdly depressed after like seeing them.
Weird things happen afterwards, even after.
Maybe the black-eyed children are like some kind of spirits
or maybe there's some kind of, I don't know.
It's always weird to think about.
But I kind of like this episode to cover.
(52:57):
It's kind of fun.
There's so many to.
There's so many cryptids.
Yeah, that's why we have to spread them out.
I think if you do more in the future, we'll go overseas with a lot of them.
There are really, really interesting ones in Australia I want to cover.
If you have a matter, we haven't made our way to any Australia cases, have we?
(53:18):
I don't recall.
I don't think so yet.
Not yet.
Oh, there's some really cool ones out there.
But yeah, for now, that is all we have for today's show.
Thanks for listening.
And yeah.
Follow us on Instagram at WTLGO Podcast.
(53:39):
We're most active on there, interact.
Let us know if you like this episode so we can make more cryptids.
Yeah, cryptids are fun to talk about.
They're creepy.
God knows there's a lot of them.
Yeah, if you live in Michigan, be wary of that dog, man.
Oh, man.
I thought we had one more too, but maybe it is just dog, man.
No, you're right.
We did talk about, we talked about the geographer who had found these
(54:04):
hash clutch footprints, the first ones.
But that was like so brief.
But yeah, I hope I gave you guys a little bit of insight to cryptids.
Because again, they're so interesting.
Look them up.
Find more.
If you like any other cryptids you want to learn more about,
you know us, we'll be here to give you those stories.
And I think next week we'll take it back to a interesting, maybe
(54:30):
disappearance.
Hmm.
Do another disappearance?
Maybe disappearance, maybe murder, maybe all the above.
Maybe both.
Maybe both.
You'll have to just wait and see.
Tune it.
Hell yeah.
See you next week.
See you next week, friends.
And that's, oh shit.
(54:52):
Love.
What was I going with that?
Well, until then, we'll see you next.
When the light.
Maybe we won't see it at all if the lights are going out.
Oh, you switched it up on us.
Oh shit.
You can't see us because the lights went out now.
Well, until then, we will see you when the light.
(55:16):
Goes out.
Good night.
Good night.
Or good day.
Or good morning.
True.
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An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.