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October 13, 2023 34 mins

Imagine the excitement that comes with every dance invitation you've ever received, and how that excitement carries you through the evening, enabling you not only to attend but shine at the dance. This episode is your invitation, ready to lead you to new understandings of hope, purpose, and the power of faith. You'll hear my personal story from my junior high days and an unforgettable experience at the Children's Medical Center in Dallas. Strap in for an inspiring ride full of real-life stories and insights that will provide you with a renewed sense of purpose.

 This episode is not just to inform, but to inspire and uplift, reminding you that your purpose can overcome any fear and that hope always prevails.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, yo, it's your boy .
Another episode of the WindwardStop Come Easy podcast is
coming up.
Next, I am uh dude.
I'm fresh out of the hospital.
I'm tired.
I haven't slept well.
If you've ever tried to sleepin a hospital, you understand.
It wasn't for me, it was for mydaughter.
Uh, thanks for all your prayers.
But, uh, so, man, one of thecoolest things happened this

(00:21):
week.
One of the absolutely coolestthings of my life happened this
week.
So you have to stick around inthe episode because we're diving
in, we're diving into it from a, from a doctor at Children's
Medical Center, and it was justseriously, of the 15 years that
we've been taking Peyton to, tothe hospital, this was the

(00:46):
coolest, uh coolest experiencethere.
So you have to listen to that.
Uh, but so much more, man.
I'm going to be talking aboutthe difference between your
ticket to the dance and, uh,shining once you get to the
dance, and all that and more.
It's happening after this thisWelcome back to the wind.

(01:25):
Words don't come easy podcast.
My name is Andy Howard and I amso glad you're here.
Uh, this, this podcast is abouthope, and and that's what I
really want it to be aboutalways, I always want to be
pushing you.
Sometimes they'll be very, veryspiritual, sometimes it'll even
just be about the day to day,but more times than not, in fact

(01:49):
, every episode will always bepushed towards some form of hope
, and today's no different, uh,difference.
I'm excited to be back.
I've been in the hospital for awhile with my daughter.
A lot of you have beenfollowing on social media and
your prayers or your kind words,all the, all the cause, all the

(02:12):
texts, all of it, um, orforever grateful, and she's home
.
She is home.
In fact, uh, had something socool happen this time around and
that's why I'm uh, I couldn'twait to get back on the podcast,
cause I wanted to tell youabout it.
So stick around to the end.
It's one of the coolest storiesof ever.
Uh, we've been going in and outof the hospital for 15 years

(02:35):
now.
She's a little over 15 in asame hospital right there in
Dallas Children's Hospital,children's Medical in Dallas,
and uh, anyway, something sospecial happened.
But I don't want to get offsubject because I rabbit trail a
lot and I will get off my notesand I'm going to try to stick
to my notes as as much aspossible, because I really feel

(02:58):
like everything is, it's for adivine purpose.
Today, for a reason In fact,you're watching this particular
episode or listening, orwhatever.
However, you're consuming thispodcast for a reason and, uh, I
don't take that lightly.
Uh, I've been praying for you,I've been praying for my

(03:19):
listeners, I've been praying forthe people who I get to to
speak to or preach to, and andand upcoming events, conferences
at churches, and uh, I have nodoubt that you're here for a for
a reason, for a special reason,and so we're going to jump into

(03:39):
it.
Uh, I'll never forget, dude, uh,my junior high experience that.
I don't know why I thought ofthis this morning, but I
remember a friend of mine namedDavid I won't say his last name
because don't want and it's nothis fault by any means, but he's

(04:00):
still friends today, but, forany means, his name is David and
all he did was he bought myticket.
He bought my ticket to thedance.
So we had this junior highdance, $2.
I didn't have $2.
And so, when I wasn't going togo because it's a dance number
two, I'm not going to go becauseI don't have $2.
And uh, after school, one dayhe's like dude, you got to go to

(04:25):
the dance.
I'm not going to the dance,well, I don't even have any
money.
And he's like I got you, I gotyou covered, I got you.
So he paid my two bucks.
And what he didn't know, though, is is I was raised, uh, and I
love uh please hear my heart.
I'm so grateful for, for myupbringing.
I was raised from a very, uh,strict upbringing.

(04:49):
In fact, my mom and dad, ifthey would have known that I was
staying after school to go to adance, it would have, uh,
wouldn't have been good,wouldn't have been good at all.
I don't, I don't, let me, letme finish the story.
Uh, at that particular timethey were.

(05:12):
We were very just, strict on onour beliefs, and dancing or
going to dances with somethingwe didn't do as Christians yeah,
I know, I know.
So imagine today, uh, and I'mgrateful for it.
I think, uh, looking back,there's some things I've

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realized.
We work out our salvation withfear and trembling.
I believe that's what's in thewords.
There are some things that wereprobably a little legalistic.
I was too strict on, like youcan't do that, like I always
thought and this is just thehonest truth I always thought

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that God was like sitting inheaven with this giant
sledgehammer or just this hugeeraser.
It was like every time Iscrewed up or made a mistake
that he was ready to just erasemy name from the book of life,
like, okay, howard, you're outof heaven again today.
Oh, you're back in heaven.
Today you did something good.
Nope, you're out of heaventoday.

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And I didn't understand orappreciate grace.
And at the same time, thatdoesn't mean you have this like
license to sin.
That's not what his grace isfor.
But at the same time, we don'tcheapen his grace by thinking
that we, we for some reason arejust so bad that everything God

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did, everything Jesus did bydying on the cross for you Now
there's a whole nother podcast,but anyways, everything he did
for you could somehow, you couldsomehow be the only one not
worth dying for and anyways.
So that's my thoughts.
So I wasn't supposed to be atthe dance and remember junior

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high.
It's so awkward, it wasn't evena dance.
Anyway, there's a reason why itwas only $2 to get in.
I mean, the budget was verysmall.
I think we had three balloonsin there in a dark room.
You had boys to men playing ona sound system and maybe a few.
I can't remember who else.
The girls were on one side ofthe cafeteria.
The boys were on the other sideHanging out.

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There was no dance Dancing evengoing on, even though it was a
dance.
It was a dance list dance.
Are you with me?
Do you remember this?
I don't know if this was how itwas at your junior high dances,
but this, at least that's where, where we came from, that's
what it was, until someonefinally got bold enough to dance

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.
And here's the thing you werecreated to shine, not to sit on
the sidelines.
You were created to dance.
And what I'll never forget,though, is at some point in I
don't know how far into it, whenI started finally getting

(08:09):
comfortable and thinking I mayactually get away with this.
I don't remember why I calledmom and daughter to pick me up
later, but at some point I starthearing these heels hitting the
tile floor outside thecafeteria.
And did your parents have acadence to their walk Like you

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knew?
You knew just by the sound oftheir walk who it was Like.
Or is that just me?
Or maybe it was my guiltstarting to pile up, I don't
know, but I knew.
I knew my mom was there, and,sure enough, cafeteria doors

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swing open and it's mom and wemake eye contact and she says,
you know, puts her finger uplike come on, it's time to go.
We only live like two minutesfrom the school, not even that
far, and that two minute ridehome felt like 30 minutes.
I mean it was the longest ridehome.
I was scared to death and theyloved me.

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I wish I could go back andrelive just from a.
You know, when you're young andyou're so scared and you think
you do.
If I would have known how muchmy mom and dad loved me and they
always loved me.
But just as a kid you don't seethat Like if I could see it
through parents eyes.
Now was she disappointed in onethe fact that I lied to her.

(09:38):
I told her I had like a schoolproject or something instead of
the dance, because I was scaredto say, can I?
If I would have just said I'mgoing to go to a dance, she
probably would have said, hey,go to your, go to your dance.
But I lied to her first andthen she caught me at a dance.
A dance, let's dance, if thatmakes sense.

(09:59):
Anyways, if I don't know whatit what I didn't know then.
But the point is, and this isthe point of this whole podcast,
I'm going somewhere with this.
I'll hang in with me, but theticket that gets you to the
dance Right, it's the ticketthat gets you to the dance, but

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once you're there, you werecreated for so much more.
So, my friend, he sponsored thethe two bucks to get me to the
dance, but after that, once Iget there, it's on me and I was
created for so much more.
There's this dude and I know, Iknow, you know, but I'm a huge

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sports guy.
It's my favorite time of year,man, and at football season that
started, my team broke my heartyesterday Again, that's normal.
But also my other team won,because it's the major league
baseball playoffs.
The Rangers won yesterday, orup one, oh, on Baltimore in the
ALDS.
And by the time I do anotherpodcast, you know they may be

(11:03):
eliminated, but for now I'mriding high.
But there's this kid named EvanCarter.
He's, he's, uh, he's like thegolden child.
He's been for those who followthe Rangers excuse me, follow
the Rangers, no, he has been thethe future, like they've talked
about it.
He started this year in a ballwhich, if you know anything

(11:27):
about major league baseball inthe minors before you can get to
the major leagues they have.
Well, they have like a bunch ofstuff before a I don't even
know it's too many to keep upwith like developmentally high a
ball, I don't know other stuffand then they have a ball,
double a, triple a and then themajor leagues.

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Sometimes it's if you're reallygood you will go to the next
league the next year and so,like if you were an able this
year, hopefully, if everythinggoes right, you'll get to start
off in double a next year and ifyou have a really good year
again, you'll be in triple a thenext year.
And if that goes great, there'sa chance you might get caught

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up to the major leagues.
But there's no guarantee youever make it to the show.
That's what major leaguebaseball is.
It's the show.
Well, here's Evan Carter.
He's our, he's our future,right, our golden child.
He's an, a ball, and you starthearing rumlings about this
kid's really special.
Well then, some, at some pointalong the way halfway, probably

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by half way through the year hegot caught up to double a, which
was already cool.
So, wow, if he has a reallygood year in double a, maybe
next year he'll be ready to getTake that jump to the to the
pros at some point.
But his numbers didn't eventaper off.
Even though he was going toanother level, his numbers were

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amazing.
So guess what happens?
He gets caught up to triple aand with a month to go in the
season, there was an injury inthe to the major leagues roster
to Adola Scorsia and outfielder,which happens to free up a spot
where they call up the kid EvanCarter.

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He got his shot, he got histicket to the dance and he
didn't disappoint.
What did he do?
His numbers have not wavered.
In fact, they got better as hegot to the major leagues.
Got better.
It's incredible story.
And now we're in post season,right, and it used to be.

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When he first got to the majorleagues they were like this
kid's coming off the bench everynow and then, giving guys rest.
He's just an emergencyoutfielder to our other guy got
healthy.
The Garcia is healthy now andback in the starting lineup.
But Carter did so well that hefound a thought in the starting
lineup as well.
In fact, he keeps moving up inthe lineup because he's doing so

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well.
In fact, how well is he?
You may ask.
Uh, there, he is one of twopeople.
That's pretty good.
Baseball has been around a longtime.
It's called America's past timebecause it's been around a long
time.
Evan Carter is one of twopeople to ever start off in the

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post season, reaching base nineout of 10 times.
He actually expanded at hisnext bat and got another hit and
he was 10 out of 11 now, and Idon't know if he's the only guy
to go to 11.
I don't know.
I'm waiting for the announcersto update that and tell me.
But that's pretty awesome.
But here's what's cool, y'all.
Here is what is so awesomeabout Evan Carter.

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You're like where are you goingwith this?
That's his ticket, right?
Major League Baseball is histicket.
But what he was created for wasto share about Jesus.
And this dude is a Christianman.
He is a Christian and he showsup on his most popular day ever
after after climbing through theminor leagues and media

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surrounding him, wanting tointerview the kid, this Evan
Carter kid.
And what shirt is he wearing?
It's a ranger shirt.
It's in Ranger blue and thecolors and the same font and
everything, but it says Jesusone across his chest.
Not oh any, but W?
O in Jesus one.
What an opportunity.

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And he had it all eyes on himand he pointed them back to
Jesus.
Isn't that what we're createdfor?
That is exactly what we'recreated for.
Whatever we are doing, that'sour ticket, right?
If you're caught, who who careswhat you're caught to do?

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That's just your ticket to, toreach people.
And then, while you're there,what you're created for is to
shine for Jesus.
That's what you're created for.
This week I'd already talkedabout it earlier, but something
so cool happened never beforehappened from a doctor, those

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who've been following me andPeyton has been so sick.
She's been so sick.
She's been fighting this C diffwhich is no joke in and out of
the hospital.
I mean, she'll do antibioticfor 10 days, get better.
Three or four days after she'soff the antibiotic, all the
symptoms come back.
She's sick.

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Call the doctor.
Hey, no problem, we're going tostart another antibiotic, or we
just got to wipe this out.
There you go.
She's on it 10 days,everything's fine, no symptoms.
Everything's going on for sixmonths.
Only reason I know is becauseit was the beginning of the
ranger season opening day.
Matter of fact, we were at thehospital and here we are six

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months later.
Well, what I didn't realize isshe's been losing weight and
it's hard to you know whenyou're with someone every single
day, it's hard to see how muchweight they're losing.
She had lost 20 pounds.
She didn't have a lot of weightto lose to begin with, she's
only about 80 pounds but she'slost 20 pounds over the six
months and that was the red flagwith the doctor that said she's

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got to come in.
So we went into the hospital alittle over a week we were there
.
They did a T, what's called TPN.
They dropped this pick line instraight to her veins, her
important, big, bigger, largerveins, and she was getting fed.
This.
Tpn, which is nutrition, islike this all the vitamins and

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nutrients that's already brokendown and go straight to the
bloodstream.
It just bypasses the gutaltogether and they're focusing
on getting rid of the Cdiff.
We're taking antibiotics forthat, but the whole time we're
trying to build up her nutrition.
So she's been started offgetting these 24 hour a day
feeds at, you know, continuously24 hours for three days, I

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don't even four days, and thenit tapered to 20 hours into 16,
then to 12.
And now she's home with it andshe's still doing the 12 hour
feeds on TPN, but getting muchbetter, much better it on the
antibiotic as well, and it'sgoing to go this time.
It's like a 25 day antibioticand we're really hopeful it will

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.
It will fix everything.
So please keep us in your purse.
But what's really cool is thisone doctor comes by and he was
so cool, he was just so cool inhis personality.
From the beginning I knew therewas something different about
him.
One is kindness, and you knowthe Bible talks about fruits of

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the spirit.
Even one day there was likethis, this beat that I could not
get this shut up on thesemachines and I had hit the nurse
, but then she was on her wayand I couldn't figure out how to
silence it and it was likedriving me nuts.
And he comes walking in and Ididn't even realize who who he

(19:00):
was at first and I thought, oh,he was here.
I didn't know if he was with RTor who and I thought maybe, hey
, can you help me with thismachine?
It won't quit BP and it, oh,yes, no problem.
And he went and took care of itand then I realized who it was.
It was the doctor who didn'thave to lower himself to do that

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that was beneath him.
Let's put it that way.
But yet he didn't.
He didn't blink an eye or saiddo you know who I am?
Or any of that.
It was full of such humilityand the fruits of this period.
I knew this dude was a Christianbefore he ever stood up on a
pulpit and preached a threepoint sermon and said look at me

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, I'm a Christian.
You could just feel it in hisspirit, the way he did things.
And what's wild is I waswearing my NF hat Singer, love
him, rapper, a singer and stillhadn't really didn't even think
much about it.
But as he was leaving he said,hey, I like that hat.

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What's the NF stand for?
And I thought he's a rapper,he's a singer, didn't say
nothing more than that.
But he knew, and NF is aChristian, he's a mainstream
rapper, he sings.
A lot of his songs areChristian songs and some are
just really cool, awesome songs,but he is very.

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One thing I love about NF ishe's huge on a.
He's overcome depressionhimself Because a lot of his
songs are about the mentalhealth struggle and I relate to
him so much.
But many of his songs, you know, also point people to Christ.
Is so cool.
So, anyways, he knew that.

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But he was looking for a smalldoor to share the gospel with me
.
And then he said Are you aChristian?
That was it.
That was the little door wherehe could ask.
And I said oh, yes, I am.
He said I thought so, he knewthe hat, but that was it.
That was the door he needed.
He said Well, here's somethingcool.
I don't say this to everybody,but since you are a Christian,

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just wanted you to know.
I pray for all my patients.
I pray for all my patients.
I pray for all my patientsbecause I pray for them.
That and he was grateful forall the medical help.
He's grateful for all the stuffthat we've learned as humans.
You know, we're doing our bestto learn the body but at the

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same time, he was the first togive all credit and glory to God
.
You know, it was the coolestthing.
He said would you mind if Iprayed for Peyton?
And I said, yeah, I would lovethat.
And he said well, I will comeback before you all leave, I'm
going to come back and I'm goingto pray for you and for Peyton.
And I said oh man, that'sawesome.
And he left and I thought Ididn't think much about it, but

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just that alone I thought wasamazing, but honestly thought he
probably will never come back.
I mean he's busy, it's a bighospital, right, it's a
children's Dallas Children'sMedical Center.
I mean we were on the eighthfloor and there's like four
different elevators, so fourdifferent story, four different
towers of floors of patients,and so big hospital.

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And so, sure enough though, thefollowing day he shows up and
says hey is now a good time.
Would you guys mind if I prayedfor Peyton?
And I said, of course not.
And he prayed this, not justthis.
There's nothing.
Please hear me, god doesn't.
He doesn't judge your prayers,he judges your heart and he

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doesn't care.
Like, oh, oh, that was a bigword there, bonus word there.
That was eloquent.
Your tone was great there.
I love the big finish.
Gotta be a little sarcastic, Iguess, but trying to be funny,
he don't judge that.
But this prayer was justbeautiful and I think it again

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because of all the other thingsI mentioned.
It was his heart, it was hispassion, it was his beliefs, it
was his fruits of the spirit.
It wasn't the way he prayed,but it was his relationship with
Jesus and it was so, sotouching to me that out of 15

(23:27):
years of going to that hospital,no one is no one, no doctor has
ever asked if they could prayfor Peyton.
It was so touching, so heprayed for me, he prayed for her
and it was just a powerfulmoment.
It really was.

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And so he mentioned something.
I, george.
When I told him man, that was socool he mentioned you know what
and this is where this wholepodcast idea came from.
And I'm paraphrasing if youcatch him, he may tell you
something different, but this ishow I heard it.
It's the ticket that gets youto the dance, but once you're at

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the dance, you were created toshine.
And that's what he was saying.
He loves.
He loves serving kids, he lovesbeing a doctor.
Here's the cool thing he's evenin neurology.
If you've heard my story, ifyou've read the book like the
book itself starts from our tripto the chief neurologist's

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appointment, one of the darkestdays of my life, one of the
hardest days of my life we gotsome of the worst news of our
life that day.
Yet this future neurologisthe's still got some training to
go and I don't know enough.
I'm not smart enough to knowall the different.
I do know he is an MD right now, but anyways, he will be a

(24:51):
neurologist.
But here he is praying for meand for Peyton.
It was the coolest thing ever.
So I want to read this as well.
That was so cool.
I thought that he said that hetalked about how being a doctor
is what he was called to do andwhat he wanted to do to serve
kids.

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But his calling is to spreadthe gospel and that's what we're
all created for.
So that's what I wanted to tellyou.
Man, whatever your ticket is,you may be a carpenter hey, I
know of a good carpenter who hada pretty good run.
You may be a carpenter, adoctor, you may I don't know you

(25:35):
may be a taxi driver who careswhat you're doing, it's who
you're serving along the way.
Are you shining for Jesus?
Do they see you and say that,dude?
I know that dude is a Christianby the fruits of his spirit, by
the fruits of the spirit, byhis testimony, by the way he's
lived his life.

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This is a quote from RobertMorris, one of my favorite
pastors, yesterday on socialmedia.
Since, do you realize?
You have the intellect, ability, talent and gifting to do
something special for God.
He designed you for a specificrole and you will never truly be

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truly happy until you discoverwhat it is.
And once you discover yourpurpose and begin fulfilling it,
your life will take on newenergy and excitement.
So true, that's so true.
I want to end with this storyfrom Elijah Otis.

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If you read the book, I amgoing to actually read it word
for word from the book, whenwords don't come easy.
It's been out for a little overa year, so if you haven't got
to get a free play, please,please, help me out, get it and
share it with somebody who needshelp with depression or mental
health.
I'm just going to read it wordfor word because I don't.

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There's so many different statsand different things in here.
I don't want to leave anythingout, but it's so good and goes
great with what we've beentalking about.
This part's called Cut the Rope.
In 1853, there were only a fewbuildings in New York City that
were taller than five stories,and the reason for that is less
dramatic than you'd imagine.

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People simply didn't want toclimb more than five flights of
stairs.
I can't blame them, but then aman named Elijah Otis had an
idea that would change the world.
He had been a workie in aYonkers, new York, bedstead
factory that required movingheavy machinery between floors.

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He was concerned with whatwould happen if the support rope
on the equipment elevator broke, so he devised a safety hoist
to fix the problem.
The hoist was a device made ofsteel wagon spring and a ratchet
and made sure that sure therope giveaway the spring would
catch and keep the problem fromplummeting down and crushing

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everything below.
Nothing like that even existeduntil Otis came up with the
device, since elevators weren'tused much for other than
equipment.
But no one would believe hisdevice could be trusted for use
with people.
Like most great ideas, they areseen as crazy and unthinkable
ideals before they are seen asgreat ideals.

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Otis needed to demonstrate hisideal.
So he found the perfect momentat the 1854 New York World's
Fair.
There, on the stage, perchedhigh above the gasping crowd in
a makeshift elevator, he provedhis ideal in the most dramatic
way possible.
He cut the rope.

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If his break didn't work, hewould plummet to his death in
front of the audience.
He might even hurt own lookers.
But guess what it worked.
By 1908, there were 538skyscrapers in New York City,
and it's been said that the Otiselevator company moves the

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entire population of the earth.
Every three days In New YorkCity alone, more than 3 million
people ride in his elevators.
I'm guessing Otis had somemoments of significant fear
during the whole process thefear that he was wrong, fear
that no one would listen, fearthat his ideal would fail.
But despite all the peopletelling him no, he didn't stay

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stuck.
He saw the safety rope as thebarrier between him and success
and he cut the rope.
And that's what I want to endwith today.
What is keeping you from doingwhat you're called to do?
Your ticket to shine your rope,that you need to cut your fear.

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Because what I know about, likewhat Robert Moore said about
all the things that will bringpurpose to your life and
excitement to your life, and allthe different things Equally,
when you're not living yourpassion will bring depression to
your life, will bring struggleand heartache to your life.

(30:20):
If nothing else, you will livea mundane, boring life that you
are not created for.
So think about it for a moment.
What's keeping you from goingforward?
What were you created to do?
And then, even if you're doing,even if you found your ticket,
you found your calling, you'redoing what you're supposed to do

(30:42):
.
Are you shining?
Because, again, you may bedoing a certain field, but I can
guarantee you God didn't putthat inside you just to do that
field.
He put that inside you so thatyou would shine shine for him.
So hope that makes sense foryou today and hope it's helped

(31:05):
you.
And if it has, please, please,share this with somebody that
God has laid on your heart,because I believe we were all
created to shine.
So thank you so much and Godbless.
Hey, I hope you found thathelpful.
Maybe, if you've been indecision or been been worried

(31:26):
about where to go with your life, been wondering about what's
next for your life, maybe it'stime to cut the rope.
Maybe it's time to take thatchance.
I'm not asking you to doanything daring that's going to
put your family in jeopardy, but, at the same time, if you've
been holding back from doingwhat you were called to do.

(31:46):
That's why the options Considerwhat happens if you cut the
rope and go for it.
First of all, god's going toput you in a place where you can
shine for him.
So it doesn't matter.
You don't have to be a pastor.
In fact, some of the greatestsermons come from people who are

(32:09):
doing the do and just doing thedaily, daily actions in front
of other, hurting people.
We're living in a society wherepeople are hurting more and more
.
You see it on social media.
Why is there so many negativepeople?
Because hurt people hurt people.

(32:32):
It's easier to just you feelsafe in social media.
Nobody truly knows me.
I can say all the things that Icouldn't say in person.
This is my reasoning.
I don't know.
I feel like so many people arehurting and so they want to hurt

(32:54):
others and they just want tothrow up on others, and if
they're feeling bad, they wantothers to feel bad.
So you have this opportunity.
You have this chance to shinewhere your pastor may not ever
have a chance to reach thesepeople, but you can.
So I hope this has been helpfulfor you.

(33:15):
Thank you so much for tuning in,for listening.
I would love if you would leavea review if this has been
helpful for you.
A five-star review would helpme so much and it will help
others find this podcast.
Also, if you haven't got thebook yet, when words don't come
easy, there's more stories likethe one you heard today from

(33:36):
Elisha Otis and I pray it'll bea blessing to you.
You can get that fromAndyHowardcom.
It's on Amazon as well.
It's on Audible.
You can also read it on Kindle.
So I pray it's been a blessingto you.
I pray you will also leavereviews there so we can get that
to more people, so we can helpmore people.

(33:58):
Thank you so much for tuning inand I'll see you next time.
Thanks so much for tuning in.
If this episode helped you inany way, it would mean the world
to me if you would leave areview and share it with
somebody else.
Thanks so much, see you nexttime.
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