August 29, 2023 • 36 mins
Ready for some serious inspiration? Buckle up as we embark on a remarkable journey with David Tatro - a civil engineer in the military and a certified personal trainer with a unique story to tell. We discuss his fitness transformation, the importance of physical activity in fostering confidence, and how the right guidance can propel us on our fitness journey.
David isn't just about fitness, he's also about overcoming adversity. He shares his journey of navigating through the harsh realities of a split family and the challenges of high school, all the while being under the constant shadow of bullying. However, a change in perspective during his senior year led him to a path of self-discovery and resilience, culminating in a scholarship to college and eventually, a career in fitness.
Lastly, David and I discuss the importance of discovering a gym where you feel at home - a space that motivates you to push your boundaries. We discuss the pros and cons of different fitness classes and trainers, and why it's crucial to trial various options before committing. The key takeaway? Strive to find a trainer who's inspires you to be better, someone who can guide you and push you to reach your fitness goals.
I hope you find this conversation to be as insightful and encouraging as I did!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, guys?
Today is going to be awesomefor all you fitness buffs.
You guys got to tune in, tunein, get your note note pads out,
get your pencils.
Call your moms, your dads, yourgrannies.
I'm telling you up front, it'sgoing to be awesome.
I have a very good friend ofmine, my personal trainer, david
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Tacho.
He's going to be joining ussoon, but this dude is legit man
.
He is an amazing man.
It's got an incredible story.
We're going to dive into allthat.
But at the very end you got tostick around because he gives
away pointers.
Whether it's your first time toever walk into a gym or whether
you've been slaying a gym forall your life, this dude's got
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something for all of you.
So, so good.
You got to stick around to theend and enjoy it.
But all that happens right intothis.
What's up everybody?
(01:05):
Welcome back to the when WordsDon't Come Easy Podcast.
I am Andy Howard and it'salways good to have you.
This is a podcast about hope.
It's a podcast aboutinspiration, and so today I have
a very good friend of mine whohas really helped me out a lot.
I mean started off as a what'sthe word I was going to say.
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He was my trainer.
I was going to say we didn'thave a relationship as friends,
but you became my friend throughthe process.
Anyways, let me welcome Davidhere.
David Tacho what's up, buddy?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Hey, I am good.
Thank you for doing this.
By the way, it's always good tosee you and you're going to be
able to help a lot of people,one with your story, but two
with your knowledge.
So thanks so much for doingthis.
Man, Of course, Happy to help.
Well, David is a good friend ofmine I just told you that but
he's also a trainer.
I mean, he's done a lot ofthings and I'll let him kind of
(02:02):
tell more about to introducehimself in here in a second.
But I wanted to share this storybecause it always cracks me up.
One, how God works, because Ithink sometimes he'll put you in
uncomfortable situations tobring out the best in you and
what's best for you.
And I will never forget, man,Tiff, I was getting ready.
You know what?
It was four years ago this week, bro it was August, the 10th of
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2019 that I did my firstSpartan, and so about I don't
know, maybe two months beforethat, maybe six weeks before
that, Tiff, I had been trainingsince January and Tiff, like I
kept telling her I just don'tthink I'm ready.
And Tiff says you need to getsomeone who knows what they're
doing, you need to get a trainer.
I always love my wife.
That was my Tiff impression, bythe way, so don't tell her I
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said that.
But anyways, she even looked upfor me.
She knew how intimidated I wasof Jim's.
She knew how intimidated.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I was of trainers.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And so she's like this guy looks nice and he did.
He was nothing wrong with him,just a nice, simple dude, and I
don't even remember his name,but I made the appointment that
day, was supposed to meet him, Ithink, at three o'clock, I
don't even remember.
Anyways, I show up.
Are you so-and-so?
Yes, I am.
You're Andy, right?
Yes.
And then all of a sudden he'slike hey, david, your guys here.
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And all of a sudden David comesaround the corner and it's this
muscle bound Dude.
You can see him here, right,got muscles in his earlobes, and
but you know what, ended upbeing one of the nicest people.
That's why you can't judgepeople, right.
You can never judge a book byits cover.
And he ended up being a friendfor life.
I mean that, david.
So, man, thank you so much fordoing this.
And tell them a little bitabout yourself, just kind of the
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background.
I know you've, you've been apart of the military, you've
gosh, you have all kinds ofcertifications for training and
then you've done all kind ofcompetitions.
Tell us a little bit about you,where you're from, and then
just all that kind of stuff, sothey can get to know you.
Awesome, yeah, so I am a realgood trainer.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Awesome, yeah.
So I am originally fromKentucky.
I went to high school andcollege there and then I now
live in Dallas, Texas, you know,not too far from Andy and I
have been in the military since2009.
So roughly 14 years.
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I did have a about a year breakwhere I got out and then got
back in.
I was stationed in Oklahoma fornine years and then now I'm
stationed in Colorado Springsand I've been everywhere with
the military.
I've been to England, Italy,I've been to Paris, Irving of
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France I've been to recently Ijust got back in Korea.
So I was in South Korea, Wow,and then a lot of places in the
States like Hawaii andCalifornia, Louisiana,
Mississippi been everywhere.
So in the military I'm a civilengineer, so I do anything from
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the ground up that has to dowith a building or structure.
That's, that's my job.
And then during during, youknow, war times hopefully we
don't see that anytime soon Thenmy job is to repair the runway
if it is ever bombed, and so myyeah, my job is to expediently
go out on the runway, fillcraters, make sure that planes
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can take off so that we have airsupport.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Wow, that's very cool .
You know, I've never even knownthat about you.
We never asked that part before.
Well, tell them a little bitabout your fitness background,
as well, yep, so I've beentraining since 2012.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I got an associate's degree with a school that was
about 18 months long and it wasstrictly personal training, and
then I've had variouscertifications over the last 11
years.
So you got my certifiedpersonal trainer through NASM.
I'm certified with a TRXsuspension trainer.
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I'm certified to train bikiniand physique competitors, I have
two nutrition certifications, Ihave a myofascial release
certification and then I've hadsome continuing educations that
for training kids and teenagersand athletes and stuff like that
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.
So I try to stay educated, keepmyself learning, make sure that
I keep growing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I mean, I love that, bro, and the reason why I asked
you to do that is because I wantanyone who hasn't met you
before.
I want them to have a littlebit of knowledge, knowing so
this guy knows what he's talkingabout.
In other words, I could havejust saved us some time and said
, hey, listen, david knows whathe's talking about, but I wanted
you to know that.
So, hey, thanks for sharingthat.
There's something that alwaysresonated with me when working
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out with you, when training withyou.
There was a phrase that is kindof became a motto for me, and I
don't know how long you've beenusing it, but it's just an
amazing motto, but it's controlthe negative, and I would love
for you one to explain what thatmeans.
As far as in fitness, I mean,it's phenomenal.
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What actual it means, more thanjust okay, focus right and take
your time with it.
It's actually where you'rebuilding the muscle.
I'll let you explain all that,but then take it a step further.
I mean, gosh, you can use thatin life, right?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, so it's.
You know, I've been using itfor a while, probably since I
started working in training, andit was something that I
realized was very relatable,whether it was fitness or it was
my day to day life.
And so in fitness, controllingthe negative is a big part of
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hypertrophy training.
So when you're doing any sortof exercises you want to make
sure that you control thedescent of the weight or the
negative or the eccentric phaseof the weight.
So controlling that allows youto, one, prevent injury, but two
, also allows you to transferenergy back and execute the last
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part of that exercise.
But also in life, you know, Iuse that because a lot of times
in my life I've really tried tofocus on the positive and not
the negative.
Anytime something's everhappened, anytime I'm dealing
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with a problem, I really justtry to remind myself to control
the negative, control thenegative thoughts, control the
negative situation and make thebest of it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It's so good, man, and I have applied it as well.
It's true, you can't alwayscontrol what happens to you.
Stuff's going to happen, right,life's going to happen, but you
do get to control how yourespond, and that's just huge.
So thanks for sharing that theother one that you would always
share, and I love this one aswell but you would always say
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one day doesn't make you and oneday doesn't break you.
Explain that one as well.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
A lot of times in the fitness world you see people
that are dealing with strugglesor stress or they're having a
hard time with accountability orself-accountability or just
anything.
So usually it comes tonutrition or getting your steps
in or your cardio or just makingsure that you're getting your
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workouts in, and so a lot oftimes people will defeat
themselves, beat themselves upabout missing a day, missing a
day of cardio or missing aworkout or not being 100% to
their diet or their nutritionplan, and so typically when
someone fails at one day, theylet it affect the rest of their
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days.
It becomes a week and then itbecomes a month.
So I really try to preach don'tlet one day affect you.
So one day won't make you andone day won't break you.
So one day is not going to getyou to your goal.
It's one day at a time, butthat you're not going to achieve
your goal in one day and you'renot going to break your goal in
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one day.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So, true man, and I know anyone who's ever tried
something.
You've been there before, maybenot David.
You can see his results.
But for the rest of us, normalpeople like you, go work out and
then you're kind of looking inthe mirror and you're like I see
nothing, it's one day, will notmake you.
It is about the consistencyover long term efforts and
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following a mentor, someone witha plan.
I love that.
Well, over the course ofworking out with you.
Just, I mean, you can only talkabout lifting weights for so
long.
So then we start digging theentire past in our history and I
always wonder you know whatpushed you to become the David
Tacho that I see in a lot of?
You see, this guy, he's got itall together.
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He's got that, this perfectbody right.
He's, he's just.
I don't remember Didn't you sayyou're 230 pounds?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Now, I'm not.
I got up to 216 was the mostI've been.
Okay, I'm.
You know, I'm barely five,eight.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, I was going to say on a small body, I was going
to say, well, anyways, he'svery thick right and not fat at
all.
Gosh, what are you?
10% body fat, I'm guessing I'mprobably 10, 12%.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So, anyways, it's just a big muscle bound man.
So I don't think 230 pounds andthey all.
Was he calling them fat?
Not at all, but anyways, thismassive dude, I said, well, how
does he get to this mountain ofa man?
And behind every successthere's always a story, and so
David has a phenomenal story andI asked him if he'd be willing
to just share how he got here.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, so you know I wasn't always in the gym.
A lot of people perceive me nowas this very confident person,
very successful.
I can talk to anyone, I canpretty much later get along with
anyone and I love helpingeveryone.
So before the gym, before allthat I was, I actually moved
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around a lot growing up.
So you know I lived in a splitparent family.
So you know I grew up movingaround with my mom, so she was a
single mom and you know, withthat we moved quite a bit,
depending on what her decisionswere.
You know who she was with atthe time or where our family was
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, and so I think I counted theother day that I think we moved
around all the way.
Up until my eighth grade yearwe had probably lived in about
10, 11 states.
So that made it very difficultfor me, made it difficult for me
to establish myself, to reallyget my bearing and be
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comfortable wherever I was, andso that was one adversity that I
was dealing with.
And then another thing as achild was, you know I clearly am
a little bit darker, complexed,so you know I'm Filipino, and
so a lot of the times when wemoved into schools I looked
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different.
And so, you know, I dealt witha lot of bullying because of
that.
I dealt with name calling andjust not fitting in, and so, you
know, not fitting in also was,you know, related to me not
being in a school for more thana year.
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And then the third adversitythat I dealt with was and
kindergarten.
I grew up on a lot of bases,air force bases, you know the
first five, six years of my life, and so when I went out into
public school I was a little bitsmarter than the public school
systems required for certaingrades, and so I was only in
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kindergarten for first for maybetwo months before they decided
to push me to first grade, andso once they pushed me to first
grade, I was already.
I was a year younger thaneverybody in that grade, and
then I was also smaller andbehind when it came to growing
and maturing.
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So that was the third adversityI dealt with.
So I was getting bulliedbecause I was small, because I
didn't fit in, because I lookeddifferent, because I was younger
, and that made it very, verytough for me growing up,
especially once I did find oneor two friends at a school that
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I was at.
We would pick up and move again.
And so I became, you know, avery troubled child, a very,
very you know I would do thingsthat I would have never done to
lash out.
You know I never.
I was always in trouble inschool talked all the time.
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I, you know, would get mad atpeople.
I would, I would, I would stealjust to get attention.
I was just doing a lot ofthings.
And so finally, when I moved toKentucky and I started my
eighth grade year there and wewere somewhat established, then
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I started to really want to havesome sort of life, a stable
life, and so I stayed inKentucky.
On my freshman, sophomore year Istarted playing sports, and
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then even in sports I wasbullied because, again, I was a
year younger than everybody andsmaller than everybody.
So I was behind.
I was smaller than I was, I wasweaker than everybody.
I remember one time I went toweightlifting for basketball
practice and I could barely liftthe bar, and I was probably 16
years old and I could.
I couldn't even lift a bar offmy chest.
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And not only that, but I wasalso very short.
I didn't hit my growth spurtuntil I was probably halfway
through junior, junior year, andso that made it very difficult
for me to play sports, and sothat was another way I didn't
fit in.
And so then, finally, my senioryear was when everything kind of
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turned around.
I started working.
I had a couple jobs, but Istarted working at a gym and I
started working out and I lovethe way it made me feel.
And so then I ran track in highschool and I loved that as well
, and I ended up putting myselfinto college on.
I was on a four ride trackscholarship my freshman year of
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college and then I gained someweight.
So I was probably I graduatedhigh school about 130, 540
pounds, which was a big deal forme because I probably average
120.
And before that.
So then, once I started to liftweights, when I started running
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track and college, that's all Idid.
I lifted weights.
I ate a bunch of food.
You know the freshman 15.
I was more like a freshman 30.
And then I got really.
I started to feel more confidentin myself.
I started to feel confident inthe things that I could achieve
and I started to push myselfoutside of my comfort zone.
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And so that's what pushed meinto joining the military.
I decided I was actually veryscared to join the military
because, again, I was bullied, Ididn't fit in, and so I felt
like it was a challenge for me,so I joined the Air Force 2009,
and then it continued from there, and so then I started lifting,
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I started getting stronger, Istarted getting bigger, I
started competing incompetitions, because that was
another fear of mine was gettingon stage, and through all of
that I started to become veryconfident in myself, and I
realized that a lot of thepeople around me that I was
surrounding myself by weremotivated by me.
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They were motivated by howstrong I was or how I looked or
the things that I've overcome,and so I would try to help them
do something that they werepassionate about.
And that's when I wanted tobecome a trainer, because I was
really enjoying helping peoplekind of overcome their adversity
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, their fears, and help themachieve a goal that they didn't
think was ever obtainable, andalso give them a little bit of
confidence back so that theycould go out in the world and
make it a better place and beconfident in who they are.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And it's a fascinating story and just
unfortunately, today bullying isa big problem.
I mean, you hear about it a lot.
In fact you hear about a lot ofsuicides happen because and
then you find out later whetherthat kid was getting picked on a
lot or he's getting bullied alot and didn't have any friends,
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didn't have any hope in hisopinion or their opinion
couldn't find hope, and so theyend up just quitting.
What would you advise someonewho I don't know per se I have
any kids who are listening rightnow, but maybe it's parents who
have a kid or who's gettingbullied what kind of hope or can
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you offer them?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The biggest thing I would suggest is one supporting
them.
If they're gonna lash out orthey're gonna have emotional
outbursts or they're gonna dealwith things a certain way when
it comes to bullying, whetherthey're the bully or they're
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being bullied, so address thesituation and give them an
outlet.
Let them teach them to go workout, or take them to a gym and
join a group class or something,so that they become more
confident, because whetherthey're underweight or
overweight, whether they're notvery strong or they're small,
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working out will give them thatconfidence that they need in
order to be able to perseverethrough school, through careers,
through life, whatever theydecide to do.
That's the biggest thing isjust push them to be better and
to work out, because your healthand the success of your health
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directly contributes to howhealthy your mind is.
So true, man.
So if you're not healthy, yourmind's not gonna be healthy
either.
Yeah, so, I think that's thebiggest step.
And then the second thing isjust be very mindful and take a
little bit of your time and takeownership of how you, as a
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parent, have conversations withyour child.
I've seen a lot of parents andbeen in a lot of households and
some parents have some kind oflike a banter with their kids
and they kind of joke aroundabout stuff.
But make sure that your kiddoesn't take what you say to
them as bullying, because if achild feels bullied, then they
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will go to school and they willbully.
Or if a child doesn't haveconfidence, then he's gonna go
to school with no confidence.
You have to give your kidsconfidence.
You have to empower them to betheir own person and to feel
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like the decisions that theymake will amount to something
for them and that you can'treally.
Yes, you do wanna grow andraise them a specific way, but
you just have to be very carefulhow you do that, what you say
to them, and just have an openconversation.
Open dialogue with your kids,because they'll tell you exactly
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how they feel.
As long as you accept it andyou listen to it and you talk to
them and you educate them, thenthere shouldn't be any issues.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And I agree with all that.
You're spitting truth, man.
Communication is so huge.
And then what you were talkingabout with the mind, it controls
so much of it.
And even with your own storyyou kept saying you kept finding
these little wins, what itwould do, these little wins
would build more confidence, andI think the confidence factor
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is huge.
So find something.
It doesn't have to.
I love fitness now that'sbecome part of my life but it
doesn't have to necessarily bethat you become a bodybuilder
per se.
But what is something they canfind to pour their heart into,
pour their mind into and getgood at and get wins and collect
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that confidence where theycollect friends.
Usually you could still getbullied somewhere else as well,
but usually if you're all goingto wherever it is to learn
something, if it's whether it'sa volleyball team or it's a
cheer or it's who knows what itis, if you're pulling together
on a team, you're gonna findsome friends and I think
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friendship helps community helpsa lot as well.
So that would be the other partI would add on to it.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
But I mean, that's so good bro.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I remember the reason I reached out to you in the
first place, or Tiff made mereach out to you I would go to
the gym.
So this is my question for youas a trainer what is something
for someone who's brand new?
Maybe they've never been to agym and they don't even know
what to do?
What would be some advice for abrand new person?
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Because here's where I'velearned so much from you.
So this is just my two cents.
So I would show up in myworkouts, mitt, whatever machine
was open.
I had no concept of what youtaught me, of pushing pools and
biceps and chests and leg daysand all the different days.
I had no concept of that.
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I was like, oh, that machine'sopen, I'm gonna do this today.
Until I saw something else andI didn't have any concept of
reps or anything.
So what would be the first bitof advice?
If someone's thinking, hmm, Iwanna get into the gym, I wanna
help with fitness, where shouldthey start?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I think the first thing that they should do is
they should you know, if they'regonna go to the gym and it's
their first time.
If they're gonna go bythemselves, maybe bring a friend
one, because a lot of timesmost people who are new to the
gym, the reason why they'remotivated to get the gym unless
it's a factor that's health-wiseusually it's because they've
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seen someone or they knowsomeone that works out and they
look up to that person.
And so you know, go to a friendwith the gym someone, or go to
the gym with a friend someonewho already goes to the gym,
because they're going to alreadyknow a little bit and they're
going to be able to make youmore comfortable in the one that
exercises.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't want to interrupt you, but that is
genius, because one we justtalked about the confidence,
right, when you have a friend,you don't feel as bad.
You're still the new one, butyou still have a friend to lean
on.
So that little bit ofconfidence is there just by
having a friend.
Love that, what's next man?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
The second thing I would say is most gyms are
pretty good about offeringclasses.
They're usually offeringclasses or intro sessions with a
trainer or a group fitnessclass, or even some gyms have
like a new member consultation,and a lot of those that the gyms
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offer will allow you a chanceto learn a little bit, to ask
questions.
Maybe someone shows you aroundand shows you how to use some of
the equipment, and then theclasses are great because
they're going to push you to dothings that you probably won't
do on your own and you'll learna couple things about yourself
and about some of the workouts.
I'd say, go that route firstand find a gym that does that,
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because there are some gyms thatwill say they offer a free
consultation, but they reallytruly, at the end of the day,
they want your money.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Just want your money, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So don't be afraid to take advantage of everything
that's included in yourmembership and then also don't
be afraid to try other trainersout or other classes out as well
.
One trainer may not be the bestfit for you.
Usually you'll know within thefirst 30 minutes that, whether
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you click with that trainer ornot and that's someone that can
teach you and you can build arelationship with.
But if not, then request to doa consultation with another
trainer.
That's the biggest thing.
There's gyms like PlanetFitness that actually offers
like a 30 minute workout ran bya trainer there, and that's a
good place to start because itdoesn't cost you anything.
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And then, once you feel likeyou kind of know what you're
doing and you've achievedeverything that you wanted a
smaller gym like that thenbranch out and go to a bigger
gym.
That might make you a littlebit more uncomfortable, but in
the end we'll allow you to grow.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
There's so much truth to that man I remember.
So I would like to say I knewwithin 30 minutes that I was
going to stay with you forever,but I couldn't remember nothing
of that first workout you had melaying down almost passed out.
I do remember that part.
It was very intense.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Box jumps or the ball slams.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Both.
But anyways, seriously, no, Ienjoyed every, every minute of
it.
I mean we.
It wasn't always easy, but Ienjoyed working out with you.
You would always make me, youwould always tell me why we did
everything.
That's what I loved.
I learned so much from you andyou're right.
Now the confidence comes Cause Iwas.
I hated gyms.
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I.
People saw me today.
They would not even believe thefour years ago, andy, cause
that was my first time, believeit or not, david, I'd never
really worked out before in mylife.
So most people don't turn over anew leaf at 40.
For some reason, I turned 40.
I'm like now it's time to go tothe gym.
Who knows why.
Well, the confidence comes withstaying consistent and getting
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comfortable and doing the hardthings until it becomes new.
And then now I work out at aplace where, well, when I'm not
working out here at home, it's aplace where, like these big old
, massive bodybuilder type dudesthat David introduced me to,
I'm like I don't know that Ibelong here, dude.
But it's true, when you pushyourself, you get into new
circles, you get into newatmospheres and then you start
(29:26):
feeling like you know what I dobelong here Cause it's
confidence, and I love that,david.
So my next question is so Ihave a lot of fitness people who
watch this podcast.
For those that are, maybe theythey're a little more
experienced.
Let's say, can you give a tipor two for someone who's looking
to even level up their health?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I think if you've already been doing fitness for a
long time or I mean just acouple of years and you've
achieved some goals that youwanted to achieve, and you know,
now you're just kind of hittinga plateau or a place where you
just feel like your, your wheelsare turning but you're not
going anywhere.
You know, find, find someone whois better than you, find
(30:07):
someone who has achievedsomething that you want to
achieve, and and whether it's atrainer and you pay them, or
it's a friend or a mentor, youknow, look for, look, always
surround yourself by people whoare going to force you to grow,
People who are achieving morethan you and doing better than
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you.
And because they've alreadydone it and they already have a
plan and they and they alreadyknow how to get there and they
can shorten the time that it'sgoing to take you to achieve
that same goal.
But, but a lot of times, youknow, we we have a hard time
setting aside our pride andasking someone to help us.
So the biggest advice I cangive is just, you know, don't be
(30:51):
afraid to ask for help.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And that is so good.
Bro, I say that all the time Ifyou're the best person in the
room, it's time for a new roomand and I mean that that's why
it worked out so good that youdid that.
Being my trainer, I'm nothingagainst the poor fella If he
ever saw this episode.
Whoever he was, it wasn't him,it was his fault.
But I felt very comfortablewith him.
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I felt better than him.
Let me just put it that way.
I felt better than him.
He was a little skinny guy.
He was probably very.
Maybe he did a lot of cardio.
He was probably in shape there,but I felt better than him.
But then I saw David and itscared me.
You need to find someone whoscares you, but he was, and it
wasn't anything he did.
(31:33):
It wasn't his fault, it was me,it was my own insecurities.
Find someone better than you.
That's such great advicebecause it always pushes you, it
always raises you to be better.
You will always set the bar atWhoever your, your friends are.
If your friends are right downhere and you're comfortable,
you're gonna stay comfortable.
So I love that man.
(31:54):
This has been so fun.
I appreciate you so much.
Finish one being vulnerable,sharing your story, but how can
people find you, david, I knowyou have social media.
Tell them how they can connectthere.
Or do you have an email or awebsite for those who may be
looking for Some info on yourtraining or anything like that?
How can they connect with you?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, I mean, my Instagram is the the best place
to usually contact me and my eye.
My IG handle is Muscleologist,so it's something that I created
when I first started trainingbecause it was catchy.
It caught on and now I'm hopingno one, no one steals it so,
and so it's m-u-sD-l-e-o-l-o-g-i-s-t.
(32:37):
That's my Instagram, and thenemail is 24 fitness CP T at
gmailcom.
That's pretty other than that,or you know, if you can't, if
you can't get me through thoseand I can send them your way.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Heck yeah, hey, man.
Well, what's funny is ology,like psychology or any of these
classes that have.
Ology is the study of, and sowhat would just be that be like
you're the teacher of muscle?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I'm trying to break down the yeah, yeah, so so like
muscleologist would be like Likethe professional or the the
teacher of building muscle.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
That's what I would think.
I know that ology would be likethe study of muscle.
So you're like the professor ofmuscle.
That's what your new nicknameis the professor of muscle.
I'm just gonna.
Next time I see you, that'swhat I'll call you, david man.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Hopefully that doesn't Make a high standard of
me.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh man.
Well, hey, it fits, bro, itfits.
But I appreciate you jumping onhere and For those who don't
know David, I'm sure you'veheard his heart throughout this
30 minutes or so.
There couldn't be any nicer ofa human being.
It really helped push you andhe's gonna work.
You are you gonna make yousweat?
Don't get me wrong, but itcouldn't be any of a nicer guy.
(33:59):
So, hey, thanks for doing this,and it's always good catching
up with you, buddy, thank youAndy.
I'll talk to you soon.
That was absolutely incredible.
Love that dude so much and sograteful for his time.
I hope you got something out ofthat.
There was, there was so much tobe to be had, whether it was
just from his.
You know his upbringing and thestuff he went through from
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being bullying, bullied.
I Hope you'll think about thatthe next time you're giving
someone a hard time.
It's okay to, it's okay to joke.
I'm not the guy that says don'thave fun, don't be you know,
don't have a good time.
You just be super nice toeverybody all the time.
I know some of my best buds, wewe give each other a grief, put
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it that way a lot, but there isa difference between bullying
and Making someone feelmiserable or even suicidal, and
so I hope his story will ringwith you and then just so much
good stuff from.
Look at where he came from,from being the little kid.
It's almost like the enginethat could right.
Is that the right story?
The engine that could.
He was picked on.
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He was bull-eating, was 120pounds, soaking wet at one point
, and now he's this beast.
So don't ever give up, don'tever quit on your dreams.
So incredible and I talk abouthim so many times in the book.
So I feel like that's a greatplug.
If you haven't got the book yet,you need to read about my
friend David in the book.
When words don't come easy, youcan get it.
(35:25):
Andy Howard calm, you can getit from Amazon.
Even Kendall we I'll read itfor you.
If you will get it audible, Iwill read it for you, and we can
just spend about five and ahalf hours together.
So you definitely got to dothat.
My last ask for you today isthat you will leave a five-star
rating on Whether it's Amazon orwhether it's this podcast.
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If you want to leave it a three, it's okay.
You can keep your rating and Iam being serious, I'm kind of
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(36:10):
so people could find it for hope.
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What's up, guys?
Today is going to be awesomefor all you fitness buffs.
You guys got to tune in, tunein, get your note note pads out,
get your pencils.
Call your moms, your dads, yourgrannies.
I'm telling you up front, it'sgoing to be awesome.
I have a very good friend ofmine, my personal trainer, david
(00:21):
Tacho.
He's going to be joining ussoon, but this dude is legit man
.
He is an amazing man.
It's got an incredible story.
We're going to dive into allthat.
But at the very end you got tostick around because he gives
away pointers.
Whether it's your first time toever walk into a gym or whether
you've been slaying a gym forall your life, this dude's got
(00:42):
something for all of you.
So, so good.
You got to stick around to theend and enjoy it.
But all that happens right intothis.
What's up everybody?
(01:05):
Welcome back to the when WordsDon't Come Easy Podcast.
I am Andy Howard and it'salways good to have you.
This is a podcast about hope.
It's a podcast aboutinspiration, and so today I have
a very good friend of mine whohas really helped me out a lot.
I mean started off as a what'sthe word I was going to say.
(01:28):
He was my trainer.
I was going to say we didn'thave a relationship as friends,
but you became my friend throughthe process.
Anyways, let me welcome Davidhere.
David Tacho what's up, buddy?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
How's it going?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Hey, I am good.
Thank you for doing this.
By the way, it's always good tosee you and you're going to be
able to help a lot of people,one with your story, but two
with your knowledge.
So thanks so much for doingthis.
Man, Of course, Happy to help.
Well, David is a good friend ofmine I just told you that but
he's also a trainer.
I mean, he's done a lot ofthings and I'll let him kind of
(02:02):
tell more about to introducehimself in here in a second.
But I wanted to share this storybecause it always cracks me up.
One, how God works, because Ithink sometimes he'll put you in
uncomfortable situations tobring out the best in you and
what's best for you.
And I will never forget, man,Tiff, I was getting ready.
You know what?
It was four years ago this week, bro it was August, the 10th of
(02:25):
2019 that I did my firstSpartan, and so about I don't
know, maybe two months beforethat, maybe six weeks before
that, Tiff, I had been trainingsince January and Tiff, like I
kept telling her I just don'tthink I'm ready.
And Tiff says you need to getsomeone who knows what they're
doing, you need to get a trainer.
I always love my wife.
That was my Tiff impression, bythe way, so don't tell her I
(02:48):
said that.
But anyways, she even looked upfor me.
She knew how intimidated I wasof Jim's.
She knew how intimidated.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
I was of trainers.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
And so she's like this guy looks nice and he did.
He was nothing wrong with him,just a nice, simple dude, and I
don't even remember his name,but I made the appointment that
day, was supposed to meet him, Ithink, at three o'clock, I
don't even remember.
Anyways, I show up.
Are you so-and-so?
Yes, I am.
You're Andy, right?
Yes.
And then all of a sudden he'slike hey, david, your guys here.
(03:20):
And all of a sudden David comesaround the corner and it's this
muscle bound Dude.
You can see him here, right,got muscles in his earlobes, and
but you know what, ended upbeing one of the nicest people.
That's why you can't judgepeople, right.
You can never judge a book byits cover.
And he ended up being a friendfor life.
I mean that, david.
So, man, thank you so much fordoing this.
And tell them a little bitabout yourself, just kind of the
(03:42):
background.
I know you've, you've been apart of the military, you've
gosh, you have all kinds ofcertifications for training and
then you've done all kind ofcompetitions.
Tell us a little bit about you,where you're from, and then
just all that kind of stuff, sothey can get to know you.
Awesome, yeah, so I am a realgood trainer.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Awesome, yeah.
So I am originally fromKentucky.
I went to high school andcollege there and then I now
live in Dallas, Texas, you know,not too far from Andy and I
have been in the military since2009.
So roughly 14 years.
(04:21):
I did have a about a year breakwhere I got out and then got
back in.
I was stationed in Oklahoma fornine years and then now I'm
stationed in Colorado Springsand I've been everywhere with
the military.
I've been to England, Italy,I've been to Paris, Irving of
(04:44):
France I've been to recently Ijust got back in Korea.
So I was in South Korea, Wow,and then a lot of places in the
States like Hawaii andCalifornia, Louisiana,
Mississippi been everywhere.
So in the military I'm a civilengineer, so I do anything from
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the ground up that has to dowith a building or structure.
That's, that's my job.
And then during during, youknow, war times hopefully we
don't see that anytime soon Thenmy job is to repair the runway
if it is ever bombed, and so myyeah, my job is to expediently
go out on the runway, fillcraters, make sure that planes
(05:32):
can take off so that we have airsupport.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Wow, that's very cool .
You know, I've never even knownthat about you.
We never asked that part before.
Well, tell them a little bitabout your fitness background,
as well, yep, so I've beentraining since 2012.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I got an associate's degree with a school that was
about 18 months long and it wasstrictly personal training, and
then I've had variouscertifications over the last 11
years.
So you got my certifiedpersonal trainer through NASM.
I'm certified with a TRXsuspension trainer.
(06:09):
I'm certified to train bikiniand physique competitors, I have
two nutrition certifications, Ihave a myofascial release
certification and then I've hadsome continuing educations that
for training kids and teenagersand athletes and stuff like that
(06:30):
.
So I try to stay educated, keepmyself learning, make sure that
I keep growing.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I mean, I love that, bro, and the reason why I asked
you to do that is because I wantanyone who hasn't met you
before.
I want them to have a littlebit of knowledge, knowing so
this guy knows what he's talkingabout.
In other words, I could havejust saved us some time and said
, hey, listen, david knows whathe's talking about, but I wanted
you to know that.
So, hey, thanks for sharingthat.
There's something that alwaysresonated with me when working
(06:58):
out with you, when training withyou.
There was a phrase that is kindof became a motto for me, and I
don't know how long you've beenusing it, but it's just an
amazing motto, but it's controlthe negative, and I would love
for you one to explain what thatmeans.
As far as in fitness, I mean,it's phenomenal.
(07:20):
What actual it means, more thanjust okay, focus right and take
your time with it.
It's actually where you'rebuilding the muscle.
I'll let you explain all that,but then take it a step further.
I mean, gosh, you can use thatin life, right?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, so it's.
You know, I've been using itfor a while, probably since I
started working in training, andit was something that I
realized was very relatable,whether it was fitness or it was
my day to day life.
And so in fitness, controllingthe negative is a big part of
(07:57):
hypertrophy training.
So when you're doing any sortof exercises you want to make
sure that you control thedescent of the weight or the
negative or the eccentric phaseof the weight.
So controlling that allows youto, one, prevent injury, but two
, also allows you to transferenergy back and execute the last
(08:21):
part of that exercise.
But also in life, you know, Iuse that because a lot of times
in my life I've really tried tofocus on the positive and not
the negative.
Anytime something's everhappened, anytime I'm dealing
(08:43):
with a problem, I really justtry to remind myself to control
the negative, control thenegative thoughts, control the
negative situation and make thebest of it.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
It's so good, man, and I have applied it as well.
It's true, you can't alwayscontrol what happens to you.
Stuff's going to happen, right,life's going to happen, but you
do get to control how yourespond, and that's just huge.
So thanks for sharing that theother one that you would always
share, and I love this one aswell but you would always say
(09:17):
one day doesn't make you and oneday doesn't break you.
Explain that one as well.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
A lot of times in the fitness world you see people
that are dealing with strugglesor stress or they're having a
hard time with accountability orself-accountability or just
anything.
So usually it comes tonutrition or getting your steps
in or your cardio or just makingsure that you're getting your
(09:46):
workouts in, and so a lot oftimes people will defeat
themselves, beat themselves upabout missing a day, missing a
day of cardio or missing aworkout or not being 100% to
their diet or their nutritionplan, and so typically when
someone fails at one day, theylet it affect the rest of their
(10:09):
days.
It becomes a week and then itbecomes a month.
So I really try to preach don'tlet one day affect you.
So one day won't make you andone day won't break you.
So one day is not going to getyou to your goal.
It's one day at a time, butthat you're not going to achieve
your goal in one day and you'renot going to break your goal in
(10:32):
one day.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So, true man, and I know anyone who's ever tried
something.
You've been there before, maybenot David.
You can see his results.
But for the rest of us, normalpeople like you, go work out and
then you're kind of looking inthe mirror and you're like I see
nothing, it's one day, will notmake you.
It is about the consistencyover long term efforts and
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following a mentor, someone witha plan.
I love that.
Well, over the course ofworking out with you.
Just, I mean, you can only talkabout lifting weights for so
long.
So then we start digging theentire past in our history and I
always wonder you know whatpushed you to become the David
Tacho that I see in a lot of?
You see, this guy, he's got itall together.
(11:18):
He's got that, this perfectbody right.
He's, he's just.
I don't remember Didn't you sayyou're 230 pounds?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Now, I'm not.
I got up to 216 was the mostI've been.
Okay, I'm.
You know, I'm barely five,eight.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, I was going to say on a small body, I was going
to say, well, anyways, he'svery thick right and not fat at
all.
Gosh, what are you?
10% body fat, I'm guessing I'mprobably 10, 12%.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
So, anyways, it's just a big muscle bound man.
So I don't think 230 pounds andthey all.
Was he calling them fat?
Not at all, but anyways, thismassive dude, I said, well, how
does he get to this mountain ofa man?
And behind every successthere's always a story, and so
David has a phenomenal story andI asked him if he'd be willing
to just share how he got here.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, so you know I wasn't always in the gym.
A lot of people perceive me nowas this very confident person,
very successful.
I can talk to anyone, I canpretty much later get along with
anyone and I love helpingeveryone.
So before the gym, before allthat I was, I actually moved
(12:35):
around a lot growing up.
So you know I lived in a splitparent family.
So you know I grew up movingaround with my mom, so she was a
single mom and you know, withthat we moved quite a bit,
depending on what her decisionswere.
You know who she was with atthe time or where our family was
(12:58):
, and so I think I counted theother day that I think we moved
around all the way.
Up until my eighth grade yearwe had probably lived in about
10, 11 states.
So that made it very difficultfor me, made it difficult for me
to establish myself, to reallyget my bearing and be
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comfortable wherever I was, andso that was one adversity that I
was dealing with.
And then another thing as achild was, you know I clearly am
a little bit darker, complexed,so you know I'm Filipino, and
so a lot of the times when wemoved into schools I looked
(13:46):
different.
And so, you know, I dealt witha lot of bullying because of
that.
I dealt with name calling andjust not fitting in, and so, you
know, not fitting in also was,you know, related to me not
being in a school for more thana year.
(14:06):
And then the third adversitythat I dealt with was and
kindergarten.
I grew up on a lot of bases,air force bases, you know the
first five, six years of my life, and so when I went out into
public school I was a little bitsmarter than the public school
systems required for certaingrades, and so I was only in
(14:29):
kindergarten for first for maybetwo months before they decided
to push me to first grade, andso once they pushed me to first
grade, I was already.
I was a year younger thaneverybody in that grade, and
then I was also smaller andbehind when it came to growing
and maturing.
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So that was the third adversityI dealt with.
So I was getting bulliedbecause I was small, because I
didn't fit in, because I lookeddifferent, because I was younger
, and that made it very, verytough for me growing up,
especially once I did find oneor two friends at a school that
(15:12):
I was at.
We would pick up and move again.
And so I became, you know, avery troubled child, a very,
very you know I would do thingsthat I would have never done to
lash out.
You know I never.
I was always in trouble inschool talked all the time.
(15:35):
I, you know, would get mad atpeople.
I would, I would, I would stealjust to get attention.
I was just doing a lot ofthings.
And so finally, when I moved toKentucky and I started my
eighth grade year there and wewere somewhat established, then
(15:55):
I started to really want to havesome sort of life, a stable
life, and so I stayed inKentucky.
On my freshman, sophomore year Istarted playing sports, and
(16:15):
then even in sports I wasbullied because, again, I was a
year younger than everybody andsmaller than everybody.
So I was behind.
I was smaller than I was, I wasweaker than everybody.
I remember one time I went toweightlifting for basketball
practice and I could barely liftthe bar, and I was probably 16
years old and I could.
I couldn't even lift a bar offmy chest.
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And not only that, but I wasalso very short.
I didn't hit my growth spurtuntil I was probably halfway
through junior, junior year, andso that made it very difficult
for me to play sports, and sothat was another way I didn't
fit in.
And so then, finally, my senioryear was when everything kind of
(16:58):
turned around.
I started working.
I had a couple jobs, but Istarted working at a gym and I
started working out and I lovethe way it made me feel.
And so then I ran track in highschool and I loved that as well
, and I ended up putting myselfinto college on.
I was on a four ride trackscholarship my freshman year of
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college and then I gained someweight.
So I was probably I graduatedhigh school about 130, 540
pounds, which was a big deal forme because I probably average
120.
And before that.
So then, once I started to liftweights, when I started running
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track and college, that's all Idid.
I lifted weights.
I ate a bunch of food.
You know the freshman 15.
I was more like a freshman 30.
And then I got really.
I started to feel more confidentin myself.
I started to feel confident inthe things that I could achieve
and I started to push myselfoutside of my comfort zone.
(18:02):
And so that's what pushed meinto joining the military.
I decided I was actually veryscared to join the military
because, again, I was bullied, Ididn't fit in, and so I felt
like it was a challenge for me,so I joined the Air Force 2009,
and then it continued from there, and so then I started lifting,
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I started getting stronger, Istarted getting bigger, I
started competing incompetitions, because that was
another fear of mine was gettingon stage, and through all of
that I started to become veryconfident in myself, and I
realized that a lot of thepeople around me that I was
surrounding myself by weremotivated by me.
(18:46):
They were motivated by howstrong I was or how I looked or
the things that I've overcome,and so I would try to help them
do something that they werepassionate about.
And that's when I wanted tobecome a trainer, because I was
really enjoying helping peoplekind of overcome their adversity
(19:06):
, their fears, and help themachieve a goal that they didn't
think was ever obtainable, andalso give them a little bit of
confidence back so that theycould go out in the world and
make it a better place and beconfident in who they are.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And it's a fascinating story and just
unfortunately, today bullying isa big problem.
I mean, you hear about it a lot.
In fact you hear about a lot ofsuicides happen because and
then you find out later whetherthat kid was getting picked on a
lot or he's getting bullied alot and didn't have any friends,
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didn't have any hope in hisopinion or their opinion
couldn't find hope, and so theyend up just quitting.
What would you advise someonewho I don't know per se I have
any kids who are listening rightnow, but maybe it's parents who
have a kid or who's gettingbullied what kind of hope or can
(20:06):
you offer them?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
The biggest thing I would suggest is one supporting
them.
If they're gonna lash out orthey're gonna have emotional
outbursts or they're gonna dealwith things a certain way when
it comes to bullying, whetherthey're the bully or they're
(20:29):
being bullied, so address thesituation and give them an
outlet.
Let them teach them to go workout, or take them to a gym and
join a group class or something,so that they become more
confident, because whetherthey're underweight or
overweight, whether they're notvery strong or they're small,
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working out will give them thatconfidence that they need in
order to be able to perseverethrough school, through careers,
through life, whatever theydecide to do.
That's the biggest thing isjust push them to be better and
to work out, because your healthand the success of your health
(21:16):
directly contributes to howhealthy your mind is.
So true, man.
So if you're not healthy, yourmind's not gonna be healthy
either.
Yeah, so, I think that's thebiggest step.
And then the second thing isjust be very mindful and take a
little bit of your time and takeownership of how you, as a
(21:37):
parent, have conversations withyour child.
I've seen a lot of parents andbeen in a lot of households and
some parents have some kind oflike a banter with their kids
and they kind of joke aroundabout stuff.
But make sure that your kiddoesn't take what you say to
them as bullying, because if achild feels bullied, then they
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will go to school and they willbully.
Or if a child doesn't haveconfidence, then he's gonna go
to school with no confidence.
You have to give your kidsconfidence.
You have to empower them to betheir own person and to feel
(22:20):
like the decisions that theymake will amount to something
for them and that you can'treally.
Yes, you do wanna grow andraise them a specific way, but
you just have to be very carefulhow you do that, what you say
to them, and just have an openconversation.
Open dialogue with your kids,because they'll tell you exactly
(22:41):
how they feel.
As long as you accept it andyou listen to it and you talk to
them and you educate them, thenthere shouldn't be any issues.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And I agree with all that.
You're spitting truth, man.
Communication is so huge.
And then what you were talkingabout with the mind, it controls
so much of it.
And even with your own storyyou kept saying you kept finding
these little wins, what itwould do, these little wins
would build more confidence, andI think the confidence factor
(23:12):
is huge.
So find something.
It doesn't have to.
I love fitness now that'sbecome part of my life but it
doesn't have to necessarily bethat you become a bodybuilder
per se.
But what is something they canfind to pour their heart into,
pour their mind into and getgood at and get wins and collect
(23:33):
that confidence where theycollect friends.
Usually you could still getbullied somewhere else as well,
but usually if you're all goingto wherever it is to learn
something, if it's whether it'sa volleyball team or it's a
cheer or it's who knows what itis, if you're pulling together
on a team, you're gonna findsome friends and I think
(23:54):
friendship helps community helpsa lot as well.
So that would be the other partI would add on to it.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
But I mean, that's so good bro.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I remember the reason I reached out to you in the
first place, or Tiff made mereach out to you I would go to
the gym.
So this is my question for youas a trainer what is something
for someone who's brand new?
Maybe they've never been to agym and they don't even know
what to do?
What would be some advice for abrand new person?
(24:24):
Because here's where I'velearned so much from you.
So this is just my two cents.
So I would show up in myworkouts, mitt, whatever machine
was open.
I had no concept of what youtaught me, of pushing pools and
biceps and chests and leg daysand all the different days.
I had no concept of that.
(24:46):
I was like, oh, that machine'sopen, I'm gonna do this today.
Until I saw something else andI didn't have any concept of
reps or anything.
So what would be the first bitof advice?
If someone's thinking, hmm, Iwanna get into the gym, I wanna
help with fitness, where shouldthey start?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I think the first thing that they should do is
they should you know, if they'regonna go to the gym and it's
their first time.
If they're gonna go bythemselves, maybe bring a friend
one, because a lot of timesmost people who are new to the
gym, the reason why they'remotivated to get the gym unless
it's a factor that's health-wiseusually it's because they've
(25:26):
seen someone or they knowsomeone that works out and they
look up to that person.
And so you know, go to a friendwith the gym someone, or go to
the gym with a friend someonewho already goes to the gym,
because they're going to alreadyknow a little bit and they're
going to be able to make youmore comfortable in the one that
exercises.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I don't want to interrupt you, but that is
genius, because one we justtalked about the confidence,
right, when you have a friend,you don't feel as bad.
You're still the new one, butyou still have a friend to lean
on.
So that little bit ofconfidence is there just by
having a friend.
Love that, what's next man?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
The second thing I would say is most gyms are
pretty good about offeringclasses.
They're usually offeringclasses or intro sessions with a
trainer or a group fitnessclass, or even some gyms have
like a new member consultation,and a lot of those that the gyms
(26:22):
offer will allow you a chanceto learn a little bit, to ask
questions.
Maybe someone shows you aroundand shows you how to use some of
the equipment, and then theclasses are great because
they're going to push you to dothings that you probably won't
do on your own and you'll learna couple things about yourself
and about some of the workouts.
I'd say, go that route firstand find a gym that does that,
(26:46):
because there are some gyms thatwill say they offer a free
consultation, but they reallytruly, at the end of the day,
they want your money.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Just want your money, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
So don't be afraid to take advantage of everything
that's included in yourmembership and then also don't
be afraid to try other trainersout or other classes out as well
.
One trainer may not be the bestfit for you.
Usually you'll know within thefirst 30 minutes that, whether
(27:19):
you click with that trainer ornot and that's someone that can
teach you and you can build arelationship with.
But if not, then request to doa consultation with another
trainer.
That's the biggest thing.
There's gyms like PlanetFitness that actually offers
like a 30 minute workout ran bya trainer there, and that's a
good place to start because itdoesn't cost you anything.
(27:41):
And then, once you feel likeyou kind of know what you're
doing and you've achievedeverything that you wanted a
smaller gym like that thenbranch out and go to a bigger
gym.
That might make you a littlebit more uncomfortable, but in
the end we'll allow you to grow.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
There's so much truth to that man I remember.
So I would like to say I knewwithin 30 minutes that I was
going to stay with you forever,but I couldn't remember nothing
of that first workout you had melaying down almost passed out.
I do remember that part.
It was very intense.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Box jumps or the ball slams.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Both.
But anyways, seriously, no, Ienjoyed every, every minute of
it.
I mean we.
It wasn't always easy, but Ienjoyed working out with you.
You would always make me, youwould always tell me why we did
everything.
That's what I loved.
I learned so much from you andyou're right.
Now the confidence comes Cause Iwas.
I hated gyms.
(28:39):
I.
People saw me today.
They would not even believe thefour years ago, andy, cause
that was my first time, believeit or not, david, I'd never
really worked out before in mylife.
So most people don't turn over anew leaf at 40.
For some reason, I turned 40.
I'm like now it's time to go tothe gym.
Who knows why.
Well, the confidence comes withstaying consistent and getting
(29:03):
comfortable and doing the hardthings until it becomes new.
And then now I work out at aplace where, well, when I'm not
working out here at home, it's aplace where, like these big old
, massive bodybuilder type dudesthat David introduced me to,
I'm like I don't know that Ibelong here, dude.
But it's true, when you pushyourself, you get into new
circles, you get into newatmospheres and then you start
(29:26):
feeling like you know what I dobelong here Cause it's
confidence, and I love that,david.
So my next question is so Ihave a lot of fitness people who
watch this podcast.
For those that are, maybe theythey're a little more
experienced.
Let's say, can you give a tipor two for someone who's looking
to even level up their health?
Speaker 2 (29:47):
I think if you've already been doing fitness for a
long time or I mean just acouple of years and you've
achieved some goals that youwanted to achieve, and you know,
now you're just kind of hittinga plateau or a place where you
just feel like your, your wheelsare turning but you're not
going anywhere.
You know, find, find someone whois better than you, find
(30:07):
someone who has achievedsomething that you want to
achieve, and and whether it's atrainer and you pay them, or
it's a friend or a mentor, youknow, look for, look, always
surround yourself by people whoare going to force you to grow,
People who are achieving morethan you and doing better than
(30:27):
you.
And because they've alreadydone it and they already have a
plan and they and they alreadyknow how to get there and they
can shorten the time that it'sgoing to take you to achieve
that same goal.
But, but a lot of times, youknow, we we have a hard time
setting aside our pride andasking someone to help us.
So the biggest advice I cangive is just, you know, don't be
(30:51):
afraid to ask for help.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
And that is so good.
Bro, I say that all the time Ifyou're the best person in the
room, it's time for a new roomand and I mean that that's why
it worked out so good that youdid that.
Being my trainer, I'm nothingagainst the poor fella If he
ever saw this episode.
Whoever he was, it wasn't him,it was his fault.
But I felt very comfortablewith him.
(31:13):
I felt better than him.
Let me just put it that way.
I felt better than him.
He was a little skinny guy.
He was probably very.
Maybe he did a lot of cardio.
He was probably in shape there,but I felt better than him.
But then I saw David and itscared me.
You need to find someone whoscares you, but he was, and it
wasn't anything he did.
(31:33):
It wasn't his fault, it was me,it was my own insecurities.
Find someone better than you.
That's such great advicebecause it always pushes you, it
always raises you to be better.
You will always set the bar atWhoever your, your friends are.
If your friends are right downhere and you're comfortable,
you're gonna stay comfortable.
So I love that man.
(31:54):
This has been so fun.
I appreciate you so much.
Finish one being vulnerable,sharing your story, but how can
people find you, david, I knowyou have social media.
Tell them how they can connectthere.
Or do you have an email or awebsite for those who may be
looking for Some info on yourtraining or anything like that?
How can they connect with you?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, I mean, my Instagram is the the best place
to usually contact me and my eye.
My IG handle is Muscleologist,so it's something that I created
when I first started trainingbecause it was catchy.
It caught on and now I'm hopingno one, no one steals it so,
and so it's m-u-sD-l-e-o-l-o-g-i-s-t.
(32:37):
That's my Instagram, and thenemail is 24 fitness CP T at
gmailcom.
That's pretty other than that,or you know, if you can't, if
you can't get me through thoseand I can send them your way.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Heck yeah, hey, man.
Well, what's funny is ology,like psychology or any of these
classes that have.
Ology is the study of, and sowhat would just be that be like
you're the teacher of muscle?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I'm trying to break down the yeah, yeah, so so like
muscleologist would be like Likethe professional or the the
teacher of building muscle.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
That's what I would think.
I know that ology would be likethe study of muscle.
So you're like the professor ofmuscle.
That's what your new nicknameis the professor of muscle.
I'm just gonna.
Next time I see you, that'swhat I'll call you, david man.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Hopefully that doesn't Make a high standard of
me.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Oh man.
Well, hey, it fits, bro, itfits.
But I appreciate you jumping onhere and For those who don't
know David, I'm sure you'veheard his heart throughout this
30 minutes or so.
There couldn't be any nicer ofa human being.
It really helped push you andhe's gonna work.
You are you gonna make yousweat?
Don't get me wrong, but itcouldn't be any of a nicer guy.
(33:59):
So, hey, thanks for doing this,and it's always good catching
up with you, buddy, thank youAndy.
I'll talk to you soon.
That was absolutely incredible.
Love that dude so much and sograteful for his time.
I hope you got something out ofthat.
There was, there was so much tobe to be had, whether it was
just from his.
You know his upbringing and thestuff he went through from
(34:21):
being bullying, bullied.
I Hope you'll think about thatthe next time you're giving
someone a hard time.
It's okay to, it's okay to joke.
I'm not the guy that says don'thave fun, don't be you know,
don't have a good time.
You just be super nice toeverybody all the time.
I know some of my best buds, wewe give each other a grief, put
(34:42):
it that way a lot, but there isa difference between bullying
and Making someone feelmiserable or even suicidal, and
so I hope his story will ringwith you and then just so much
good stuff from.
Look at where he came from,from being the little kid.
It's almost like the enginethat could right.
Is that the right story?
The engine that could.
He was picked on.
(35:03):
He was bull-eating, was 120pounds, soaking wet at one point
, and now he's this beast.
So don't ever give up, don'tever quit on your dreams.
So incredible and I talk abouthim so many times in the book.
So I feel like that's a greatplug.
If you haven't got the book yet,you need to read about my
friend David in the book.
When words don't come easy, youcan get it.
(35:25):
Andy Howard calm, you can getit from Amazon.
Even Kendall we I'll read itfor you.
If you will get it audible, Iwill read it for you, and we can
just spend about five and ahalf hours together.
So you definitely got to dothat.
My last ask for you today isthat you will leave a five-star
rating on Whether it's Amazon orwhether it's this podcast.
(35:50):
We're trying to find a hundredpeople who will leave ratings.
If you want to leave it a three, it's okay.
You can keep your rating and Iam being serious, I'm kind of
kidding, I'm kind of not but Ineed your ratings when it helps
people find the book, the wholereason I wrote the book, what's
(36:10):
so people could find it for hope.
So I want to give a little good, I want to give a little hope
out there and more people findit and see it when you leave a
rating.
So please do that for me today.
Same with this podcast.
I hope it's been a blessing foryou.
Please share it.
Please Subscribe and also leavea five-star rating.
(36:32):
Love you guys so much.
See you next time.
Thanks so much for tuning in.
If this episode helped you inany way, it would mean the world
to me if you would leave areview and share it with
somebody else.
Thanks so much.
I'll catch you next time.
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