June 15, 2025 • 52 mins
Today we are joined by Lynne Neiman, host of the Wander Your Way podcast and experienced travel planner. Lynne takes us on a captivating journey through Scotland's diverse landscapes, from the rugged Highlands to its 94 inhabited islands with pristine beaches. She shares insights from her multiple extended stays in Scotland, revealing why this northern country has completely stolen her heart.
Scotland offers extraordinary diversity in a relatively compact country. Lynn's exploration of the Scottish islands – from the popular Isle of Skye to the less-visited Lewis and Harris, and the enchanting Isle of Mull – showcases their distinct personalities and jaw-dropping natural beauty. Her description of single-track roads winding through Mull's dramatic terrain perfectly captures the adventurous spirit required to truly experience Scotland's remote corners.
Beyond the landscapes, Lynn illuminates the soul of Scotland through its people, traditions, and unexpected pleasures. The surprisingly excellent food scene (fresh salmon, venison, and spectacular berries), the warmth of locals who strike up conversations on hiking trails, and cultural celebrations like Hogmanay all create what Lynn describes as moments that "give you all the feels."
For those planning their own Scottish adventure, Lynn offers practical insights on accommodations (book early, especially in remote areas), transportation (rent a car for maximum flexibility), and ideal regions to explore based on your interests. Her small-group tours through Wonder Your Way Adventures, including a Scotland itinerary planned for 2026, promise the authentic, immersive experiences that have made her fall deeply in love with this extraordinary country.
Whether you're drawn to misty mountains, windswept islands, historic castles, or simply the promise of connecting with one of the world's friendliest cultures, this episode will have you dreaming of Scotland long after the conversation ends.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hi, welcome to our podcast when Next Travel with
Kristen and Carol.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I am Kristen and I am Carol.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And we're two long-term friends with a passion
for travel and adventure.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Each episode, we interview people around the
globe to help us decide where togo next.
So today we have Lynn Neiman.
She is the host of Wander yourWay podcast and we're going to
talk about what your podcast is,what other things you talk
about, but we're going to focusspecifically on Scotland today.
Since you were there, you'vespent a lot of time there and we
(00:50):
love talking about slow traveland spending time in places for
maybe more than a couple ofweeks and so six months.
But yeah, so we're excited tohear about your story.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So my business is Wonder your Way and I have a
podcast, a blog.
I started with the blog.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh, you did Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, so I have a blog first, but I also am a
travel planner, so I'm a fullservice travel agent.
But I specialize in Europe andI like to have people I named
the business Wonder your Waybecause I want people to travel
their way.
So I kind of ditch the cookiecutter.
I like to get to know myclients, I like to know what
their interests are, because Ibelieve that no two people are
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alike, so no two trips should bealike.
So I really try to get to knowmy clients and so I can really
customize a trip tailored totheir needs.
They only have a week and theyreally want to go, go, go.
Other people who maybe want toslow down and maybe they have a
few weeks to travel or maybethey're able to travel longer,
and so I can kind of recommendthe proper countries, the cities
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, the regions, the small towns,the outdoor things, whatever it
is that they want to do, whetherthey're into more, you know,
cultural, like museums, or ifthey're more into hiking.
So I tend to be less of a cityperson and more of a hiking
person, but you know, I doappreciate the cities and have a
few cities that I really like.
So after the blog, I decided tostart a podcast, you know, in
the midst of the pandemic whichI think a lot of people did.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So so, yeah, so I started that, and that's you
know.
I put out a podcast episodeevery other week.
I'm having fun with it.
In fact, we might even go toweekly.
So yeah, wow, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Now do you full time as a career.
You're a travel agent.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's mostly.
I have a like a very part timeremote job where I do some
community management and I dolike email, newsletters and
stuff.
You know it's maybe like 30hours a month at the most.
But yeah, I will say it's alittle slow this year starting
off.
But we are going in the rightdirection and the new thing that
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I have, if I can just kind ofput a plug out for this is I am
starting small group tours and Icall them Wonder your Way
Adventures.
So I have a few of those for2025.
A couple going to the Dolomitesof Italy, there's one still for
Ireland that's open and we arelooking at Scotland for 2026.
So I'm happy about Scotlandtoday.
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So I was unable to.
The company that I wanted towork with was not available for
2025.
So they told me 2026 and I saidlet's do it so, so yeah 2026 is
when you're going to Italy.
The Dolomites, no 2025.
That's this year, in fact,there's one in June and there's
one in September.
So if you would go to Wonderyour Way Adventures that's
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W-A-N-D-E-R, wonder your WayAdventures you would see the
trips there.
Small group tours, keeping itsmall, personally curated by me,
so that we are going to theplaces that I've been to and
want to want to spend time andwant to share with you.
Know people that are interested.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, so I have to ask a question, because we all
love travel here, but Chris andI have, you know, normal.
I'm not saying normal just likevery corporate, you know,
independent corporate job, solike we're, you know, grinding
and like a travel career, soundsreally cool.
Does does any of it fade whenit becomes like your primary job
, or is it still like?
Oh, my God, I can't believe I'mdoing this.
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This is so fun.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's a good question.
There are days where it can geta little.
It can get a little I don'twant to say tedious, but it can
get a little challenging, get alittle challenging and sometimes
I think it's just sometimes, Ithink, finding the accommodation
like for like, depending onwhen like, how much lead time
we've got, how big, how manypeople are going.
When I get people like I thinkI remember last year it's like I
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had a family and then they hadlike three kids, but they were
all older.
So it was like you know, inEurope they don't do like.
You know, we have our hotelrooms here where you've got like
maybe two queen size beds in aroom or whatever.
So you can kind of put a familyof four in there if you want to
.
They don't do that so much inEurope.
So it's harder to find hotelrooms to fit families so that
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you know, unless they have likeone younger child like I've got
some people actually going toScotland and there's a husband
and wife and they're travelingwith their six-year-old daughter
.
That's a little easier becauseshe's smaller.
We can kind of put her whereverthey can roll in an extra
little like cot, something small, that she can still fit in.
Then I've got another trip,actually for my niece and her
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husband and their 15-year-olddaughter.
That's a little bit morechallenging because she's a full
grown young lady and she needsa whole, she needs a regular
size bed, so that becomes alittle bit more challenging.
So that's when, that's when Ifeel like it gets hard, because
when it when, when I'm trying tofind that diamond in the rough,
so to speak, or that needle ina haystack, it gets a little, it
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can get difficult.
Wow, that is so.
That's the challenge.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
People need you yes people do need me.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And how often do you travel in a year?
It kind of depends when I kindof first started my business,
obviously like I didn't feellike I had the you know the
means to be able to travel fortoo long but I would be gone for
a couple of months, and so Ikind of did that.
And then a lot of personalthings, because I started my
business at the end of 2013.
And so I kind of did that.
And then a lot of personalthings, because I started my
business at the end of 2013.
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My mom passed away in early2015.
I didn't travel again until2017.
I think I traveled in 17, 18, 19.
I did a week in Paris rightbefore the pandemic in 2020.
Then the pandemic hit.
Then I was able to, as thingsstarted to open up in Europe.
At the end of 2021, I traveledfor, I think, four months.
Two of those months were inScotland, came back.
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My dad was diagnosed then withcancer and he passed then in
2023.
So 2022, I wasn't able to goaway.
But then, 2023, both my parents, who I was, you know, helping
to take care of well, I livedwith them, so I was taking care
of them were gone, and so I wasable then to kind of go and do a
little bit more of a digitalnomad lifestyle in 2023.
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So then I was gone for, like Idon't know, seven, eight months
in 2023, and then six months in2024.
This year I'm going to scaleback a little bit just because,
like I said, business it's alittle slow.
I feel like people are a littlereluctant to travel right now.
They're kind of watching theirmoney and just things being
uncertain.
People are feeling a littlereluctant and that's fine, I
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understand.
I'm still getting some peopleand I do hope that people still
will travel because Europe willwelcome you with open arms.
So I do try to be gone for, youknow, at least a few months.
I mean, it's always kind of mygoal to be gone for at least
maybe like three months, if notmore.
Nice, that's like perfect yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, cool.
Work your other job anywhere.
Sounds like that remote.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , that remote job, it's like
it's, yeah, it's, I can do thatwherever.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'm in Cincinnati Ohio.
I'm just kind of in the suburbs, so in the Midwest.
That's where I grew up.
Because I'm not around a wholelot, I'm just renting a room
from my sister and her husband,who are retired.
So I'm kind of the girl thatthey let up from down in the
basement.
Every now and again I come upand I'm like hi, because I have
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kind of my own space down here,except for the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So yeah, it works out well.
Yeah, Okay.
So what do you like aboutScotland?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Oh gosh, you know I feel like Scotland is one of
those countries that kind of hasa little bit.
It's got something for everyone.
You know you've got a couple ofreally great cities in
Edinburgh and Glasgow.
I have not been to Glasgow yet.
I have a friend who's aGlaswegian.
He keeps saying you need to getover here.
But you have these two amazingcities and then you have all
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these wonderful small towns.
You have beautiful outdoor.
I mean you can do everything,from time along the water and
the sea to the locks or thelakes, mountains.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
They call them locks instead of lakes Locks.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Lock you have to say it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh, hence the Loch Ness Monster, yeah, l-o-c-h.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Is that what I found?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, L-O-C-H.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
L-O-C-H.
Yeah, loch Ness is one of the.
I think it's the largest lakeas far as, like, it's the
deepest, it's not the prettiest,and they will call them the
inland lakes, will be lochs andthen on the west coast you will
see loch as a sea loch, whichmeans it's more like we would
think of it more like a bay.
Oh, okay, so they do.
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On the west coast They'll stillcall them lochs.
There.
I have a good Scottish friendwho's actually also a guide
there, so I get a lot of, a lotof information from her.
So I feel like that it haseverything you know.
There's all this great historywith with Scotland.
You know it's very interesting,intriguing, very tumultuous
because of their push and pullwith England.
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And are they independent?
Are they not over all thecenturies?
Are they independent?
Are they not Over all thecenturies?
So there's a lot of you know.
There's a lot of historicalsites for people that enjoy that
, and cultural sites.
The food is actuallysurprisingly good, especially if
you are into like, maybe goodbeef or venison, seafood, mild
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white fish, very good.
They have a very strong kind offarm-to-table, seed-to-table
movement, I think there too,yeah, so the food is
surprisingly good.
You've got whiskey, of course.
They make really good gin.
Their beers are pretty good.
Obviously they don't make wineif you're into your alcoholic
beverages, but if you're not,you know they have good water.
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Yeah, it's not like there'sprobably a lot of water.
Huh, yeah, yeah, there is.
There's a lot of coastline, andthe other thing is there are a
lot of islands.
I mean, there's like Really.
Oh yeah, there's what is the.
I've got it here.
I got my map my Google map.
There are.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Oh, I see the Kirkawale.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Lerwick there are technically 790 islands.
94 out of 790 are inhabited.
So if you want to do islandtime, it's kind of a great thing
to do in Scotland.
And what I would say is youdon't think about places like
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Scotland having beautifulbeaches, but there are some
really spectacular beaches.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You have to go in the summer, though You're not going
to be in your bikini.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I was going to ask that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You're going to be cold but, yeah, the weather
there is never.
You're never going to have very, very warm weather.
I mean, if you get like 70 to75 degrees Fahrenheit, which is
low 20s in Celsius, you knowyou're lucky.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
you know, in the summer, Like San Francisco,
weather all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, but it will get cold.
I mean there will be, I meanthey can get snow.
I've been there in the winterbecause of the mountains.
You will definitely get somesnow at some of the higher
elevations in the winter andsometimes even a little lower.
Yeah, it's just, it's abeautiful country and it just
like the people.
I would say that's probablyyour number one reason to go is
the people are some of thenicest on the planet, can't?
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always understand them.
Some of them have a very strongaccent, but but yeah, they are
there, they are just super nice.
They will stop and talk to youabout anything.
I mean, I can't even tell youhow many times I've just been
out on a trail and somebodystarts up a conversation with
you, and especially withAmericans.
I think that they're alwaysintrigued to hear about our
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lives.
They will talk about ourpolitics as well.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Some of them will Some of them won't, some of them
, will some of them?
Won't?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
some of them will, so but yeah, it's, it's great fun,
it's, it's such a, it's justsuch a beautiful country and I
just think it has a littlesomething for everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So when were you there and how long were you
there for, did you say?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So I've been there a few times.
So my first visit there I wasthere for probably just a few
weeks and I actually walked along distance trail called the
West Highland Way.
It's pretty popular, and so ittook me a week.
I walked 96 miles.
I had a company actually a verysmall company kind of set it all
up for me so, like she did, shekind of booked my B&Bs that I
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stayed in so that I didn't haveto take all of my stuff with me
because I was traveling for acouple months, like I had been
over in Ireland and I was goingto be going down to England.
So I had my big bag theytransfer your big bag to each of
your kind of, you know, stopsand I just had my day pack with
me.
So I was hiking, you know, justwith my stuff that I need for
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the day food and water, extraclothing, and that was my
introduction to Scotland.
I landed in Glasgow and I wentto this little kind of northern
suburb, started the hike andtook a week and walked it and
ended up actually having awonderful time, made a friend
who I'm still in contact with.
We met along the trail.
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Yeah, I had beautiful weather,which was surprising.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
What time of year?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
did you go?
That was May, May of 2017.
And that's a good time to go.
It really is.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Question also like stay for women travelers when
you're on the trail doing thatdid you?
You stayed and B&B'd.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, more like a bed and breakfast or like hotels.
It kind of just depended onwhich town you were, which which
, which town you were in andwhat kind of tourist amenities
they had.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And what was that called?
Again the trail.
That's 96 miles.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That sounds really fun West Highland Way, yeah, and
I can send a lot of links toyou guys, so you guys have them,
thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
So then I didn't go back untilduring the pandemic in 2021.
I had met a woman at the time,so I spent a couple of days in
Edinburgh and I went up to StAndrews because I really my dad
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was still alive, my dad was abig golfer and I went up to St
Andrews to go and do a tour ofthe old course there and my
guide happened to be this womanby the name of Bo Frazier the
old course there and my guidehappened to be this woman by the
name of Bo Frazier, and she andI became friends.
She's a Blue Badge guide and wehave kind of stayed connected.
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So when I went back to Scotlandin 2021, I went and stayed with
her and her husband for a fewdays and then I went over to a
town called Fort William over onthe West Coast because St
Andrews is on the East Coast andhad an Airbnb booked for like
two months over there and I wasjust so.
I was there November, december.
So I was there when the dayswere getting very short, when
the weather was getting cold.
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I saw snow, I saw sideways,rain, I had beautiful sunshiny
days, a little bit of everything, but I just kind of just
hunkered down and stayed therefor a while and it was great
Fort Williams.
Fort Williams not like thecutest of little towns Most of
your cute villages and kind ofcharming villages are going to
be further south compared to inthe Highlands, just because
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that's just kind of how thingssort of developed in Scotland.
But it's a great base for doingoutdoor things because it's the
end of the West Highland Way.
But it's a great base for doingoutdoor things because it's the
end of the West Highland Way.
So that's where you end.
And then Ben Nevis, which isthe highest peak in all of Great
Britain and all of the UnitedKingdom, is right there.
So a lot of people stay thereand they'll.
They'll do the summit of BenNevis.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What was that town that when that not so great, but
a good base for William FortWilliam badge by a guide.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You said a blue badge , guide.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So they have to go through a specific type of
training.
In fact, it's almost like ayear and half to two years.
And it's pretty, it's prettyrigorous, and so they have to go
through and they really have tohave the knowledge.
So, and usually like, like, soshe's a blue badge guide for
like, uh, for like all ofscotland okay, wow so yeah does
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she like?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
is it like a travel agent or she's a?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
guide, so she's a driver guide I meant, that's
what I meant.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Sorry so, but you would hire her to like take you
all over Scotland.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You can, you can, yeah, somebody like her Like if
you wanted to, if you wanted tohire somebody.
She's not cheap.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, and who comes to her?
I was just curious who comes toher.
Is it companies, corporations?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, Sometimes it is and then sometimes sometimes
she gets individuals.
It kind of depends.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So if you're booking a trip, would you then hire her?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
or you're, I, I I.
A lot of times, if I havepeople that want to do something
like that, I always reach outto her first, and then she.
Usually, if she's busy, thenshe hands me off to somebody
else that she knows.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And so when you say expensive, like what does that
look like?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Oh, you know what?
I'm not a hundred percent surewhat her, what her fees are, but
yeah, but yeah sure what her,what her fees are, but yeah, but
yeah, it's like a per daybecause I know like yeah, it'll
be and it'll depend on whatyou're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
So that's all I can say.
I was in bali and I um someonethat I know set me there and she
was like I have a driver, andso I just paid him like 35 bucks
a day and he took me yeah,she's a lot more than that yeah,
absolutely, um, yeah, but yeah,so all the little I had to
worry about it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I have kids.
We went all over the place, butyeah, that would be different.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
But yeah, so all the little islands, there's a lot,
and there's even ones that, andit says Hebrides, hebrides.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
So, there's the Inner Hebrides and the Outer Hebrides
.
The Inner Hebrides are justcloser to the mainland and the
Outer Hebrides are a little bitfurther.
So, like a couple of theislands I've been, the Isle of
Skye is the most popular.
It's the most popular becauseit is breathtaking.
I went there on my first visitand it's beautiful.
I had a car, which is how Iwould recommend to get around,
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because it's a little difficult.
You can get to some places viatrain and you can use buses, but
a car gives you a littledifficult.
You can get to some places viatrain and you can use buses, but
a car gives you a little bitmore freedom and will get you
into the nooks and crannies andwill to probably allow you to
also get, if you wanted to go tothe islands, to be able to
really transport yourself aroundthe islands a little bit easier
.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
But the islands Do they drive on the?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
left side.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
They drive on.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
yes, yeah, so the opposite.
Yeah, because they're they'repart of the part of the united
kingdom, so so you know, so theyuh drive on the left side.
So, like the isle of sky wouldbe kind of one that you know, I
would say, yeah, go there, butit's very, it's gotten a little
bit over touristed and as such,because it's know, I think one
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of the things that I would justkind of say to your listeners is
that don't assume that you'regoing to be able to find
accommodation super easy.
A lot of these towns they'revillages or settlements.
There's not a lot to them onceyou kind of get away from
Edinburgh and Glasgow as such,there's not a lot of
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accommodation choices there.
And it's the same when you getout onto the Isle of Skye.
There's only so much there andif you have all this influx of
people then you're not going.
It's going to be harder for youto find places to stay.
So that's where, like, it'sessential to book in advance for
your trip because of the factthat these places, you know
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they're small.
You got these little B&Bs.
They maybe only have like fourrooms.
It's very easy to fill up fourrooms.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So you know, if there's only 10 places that have
four rooms.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You know you can do the math very easily and you can
find out that there's just, youknow, maybe not a whole lot
there, so it's very, veryessential to do that.
But the Isle of Skye isdefinitely one place I am a big
fan of the Isle of Lewis atHarris, which is, even though
it's two names, it's really oneisland.
It's a little bit further northfrom Skye.
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I went there in 2023 and stayedon the Harris part, which is a
southern part, which I would sayis the more interesting part.
There's a beautiful beach therecalled Luskentire.
It's kind of one of the most,kind of one of the more famous
beaches in Scotland.
It's a gorgeous, gorgeousstretch of sand, never really
warm.
I just think I was able to wearshorts and a short sleeve shirt
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at one point in early September.
Just a beautiful place.
Lots of natural beauty, theCalanish Standing Stones, which
are pretty popular on the Lewispart, which is the northern part
of the island.
That part of the island's alittle flatter, but just a
beautiful place.
And then this last year, in2024, I went to the Isle of Mull
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, which is a little furthersouth off the coast.
You'll see, it's by Oban.
Oban is where you catch theferry.
It's only maybe about 45, 50minutes to get over by ferry.
But wow, what a beautifulisland.
I totally fell in love with it.
But boy I tell you what,driving it's almost a whole
single track.
There's probably a stretch of10 miles that you that's.
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You've got two lanes.
All the rest is single track andI loved it oh, my gosh island
of isle of mole, m-u-l-l andthere's all these m-u-l-l is
that when I'm seeing theselittle um houses lines the
water's edge with oh that'stober, so tobermory is the main
town and that's yeah, that wouldbe like you know.
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You would probably be able tofind places to stay.
I stayed at nearby Dervig,which is just maybe seven or
eight miles away, but it took meprobably maybe 20 minutes to
drive because of the singletrack road and it was all kind
of windy.
Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful.
Again, you'll find like there'slike the mountainous interior,
there's some beautiful beachesaround, it's just, it's a
stunning, stunning place.
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And that's how I feel about alot of Scotland.
Like a lot of people don't makeit maybe all the way up to like
the far kind of Northwest.
There's a driving route.
They call it the North Coast500.
It's gotten a little bit busybut it's way up in that
Northwest corner You'll see likethis piece of land, if you look
at a map, kind of sticking upthere into the North Sea and
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that driving route is about 500miles.
But that driving route is not,you know, you're talking about
two lane roads.
I'm trying to think if there'sany single track along there.
There might be.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I've never done the whole thing, so you're saying
like way up north, near, likeUllapool and Dingwall.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, oh yeah, ullipol is where you would get
the ferry, like over to um tolewis and harris, so, but up
there, like gerlach olipol, umon up to um elfin.
I don't have the map in frontof me so I'm kind of trying to
remember that's yeah so, butthat that area is just beautiful
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, it's stunning.
It's very rugged and remote.
Again, again, you know there'snot necessarily going to be tons
of places to stay.
It's about the landscape upthere.
You know there's not going tobe necessarily a ton of like
sites per se.
You'll see some.
There's some lighthouses out onplaces, but it's just
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spectacular.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Okay, wow, I this.
I had a stereotype of likedingy, cold stone houses and
people drinking at the pub, likethat's what I think.
Oh my gosh, yeah, awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
And like in the center part, it's like, you know
, you get sort of your boggy,sort of your peaty boggy land
which you know you would seethat like in parts of Ireland,
like in Connemara Ireland orplaces like that, but you'll see
some of that as well and it'sjust, you know it's a very
different ecosystem and you knowjust totally different
landscape and it's reallybeautiful, you know.
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And then you kind of get downinto like along the East Coast
kind of like if you go likenorth of Edinburgh, between like
Edinburgh and like aroundAberdeen, that area that's
Aberdeenshire there's, you know,you'll see a lot of castles
around there.
Of course, you know Balmoral isout there, which is the royal
residence, the royal Scottishresidence.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
So all these beautiful castles?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Balmoral yeah, b-a-l-m-o-r-a-l.
It would be near Ballater,braymar, some of the little
towns it's like in CairngormsNational Park, which I remember
mentioning that my friend waslooking at the map.
She goes that big green glob inthe middle of the country oh
yeah that's karen gorms, sothat's all like national park
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within there and you've got kindof a more of a main road, the
a9 that goes up the um, the sortof the western side.
But that eastern side is is alittle quieter and there's just
a small road, just a great drivethat goes from ballater up to
granton and spay.
Part of it's a track and thenpart of it's not.
It's a gorgeous drive.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Wow, I looked at Balmoral and it looks like a
fairy tale castle.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, and it's only open at certain times because of
it being kind of the summerScottish residence of the royal
family of the King.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Looking at it, I feel like I'm looking at Shrek.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah, so, but there are other castles.
So there's a, there's a rivercalled the River Dee out there
that supposedly I know a coupleof people there that live there
that are that fish and that's abig fishing river.
But that that river along therethere are some other castles
along there too, so they call itRoyal Deeside.
Like I said, there are someother castles along there too,
so they call it Royal Deeside.
Like I said, there's justsomething for everyone.
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And then you go down likearound St Andrews.
That region is called theregion of Fife and if you kind
of go around the coast they'vekind of got all the sort of like
the Fife kind of coastal littletowns that are just they're
charming little fishing villages.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
So when you went the second time for a couple months,
did you just like bounce around, because obviously you saw a
lot.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
No, I just stayed in Fort Williams.
So when I went back then in2020, I've been four times.
So when I went in 2023, I spentI have to think about this,
because I was just about at theend of my staying my UK visa,
because you can for six monthsand I spent about a month in six
months.
I spent about a month inEngland.
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So I must have been in Scotlandfor about four, four and a half
months maybe.
So I spent a couple of monthsand I actually did a road trip.
So I literally like started outkind of in that Royal Decide
area and I went up to the north,went all around, I went out to
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Lewis and Harris, I came down, Iwent all the way and I went all
the way down into Dumfries andGalloway, which is south of
Glasgow.
So that's that region.
So it goes down and it's kindof the border.
It's that western border withEngland and then I went over to
the borders, which is theeastern border with England, and
I literally like pretty muchwent around the country in two
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months of a road trip so that'swhen I got to really see like
everything.
And then in 2024, I was justthere and I was kind of
hopscotching a little bit allaround because I got to really
see like everything.
And then in 2024, I was justthere and I was kind of
hopscotching a little bit allaround because I went to the
Open Championship, the golf.
I went to Royal, which was inRoyal Troon, so I kind of had to
make my trip a little bitaround that because I had
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tickets.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
So yeah, Okay, and so say Fort Williams, to like the
top, the north, where you wantto go tour around Like how long
is it a day drive, a half a day,two days.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Well, yeah, I mean oh no, I mean you can.
You can get up there in a fewhours.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah.
It depends exactly where you'regoing to go.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, Exactly where you're going to go up there.
But yeah, you can go up.
I wouldn't do it like as a daytrip, like going up and back.
If you were basing yourself inFort William, I you would want
to go up and, you know, spendthe night or two up there and
spend a couple of nights upthere.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Did you rent a?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
house, then when you're in Fort.
William so um, yeah so I I hadan Airbnb, so I rented an
apartment.
Okay, For those two months.
And then you know.
So then I've had other timeswhere I've maybe rented, like I
know, in 2024, I rented, youknow, an apartment, a flat, for
like two weeks in a little towncalled Blair Athol which is
right near pit lockery.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yes.
So if like for a month, to sayI want to go for a month like
what's, what's the range?
Two grand a month three grand amonth.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, I would say it's going to depend on exactly
where you are, because thoseplaces that are stronger holiday
places, where the Scots arealso going to go or the English
are going to come up, areprobably going to be a little
bit more.
If you kind of find some ofthose towns that are maybe not
as much of a holiday place or avacation spot, um, they're going
to be a little cheaper.
So, you know, I would say, andagain, if it's, you know, is it
a studio?
Is it a one bedroom, a twobedroom?
yeah, just say like a onebedroom you know.
So one bedroom place yeah yeah,um, you know you might be
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talking about a, um, you know, acouple, a couple thousand, but
you might be able to findsomething cheaper than that and
again, it's going to depend onthe season, because obviously
you know, during the summerseasons, you know, or if you go,
like they tend to have their,their schools get what they call
a half term, and usually theyhave something in May and then
they have something in Octoberand they're all staggered, you
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know.
So it's like these kids are outof school and then the next week
these kids are out of school.
So you kind of have to watchthat too.
But was it hard to findsomething for a whole month or
just.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Airbnb.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You know, airbnb maybe isn't always the best.
Sometimes I kind of find thatif you kind of Google your
specific area that you'restaying in, sometimes like you
can find long-term rentals thatway and they they tend to call
them like um, holiday homes orholiday apartments,
self-catering places.
So you know, those would kindof be some of the terms that I
would use, um, as you Google it,um, and you would be able to
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find some places that, yeah, weused to do we used to do like
craigslist for that back in theday.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I don't know if people still use craigslist or
facebook groups.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I hear like you find like expat facebook groups or
something yeah, you might beable to find something there,
you know again, you know, airbnbsometimes is a good place to
start.
I mean sometimes even going onbookingcom, sometimes, people
you know because you can find,you can find places there that
are more apartments.
But then again, like I think,also just kind of diving in,
because some of them don't putstuff out there as much like on
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Airbnb.
They don't want to, and I thinkthat they've kind of had some
weird kind of laws and rules, Ithink around that that the
governments are kind of puttingin and it's just, I think, so
that they're watching like who'sactually renting out.
So some people may not actuallyputting it out onto Airbnb.
So like house swapping too.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I know I've heard people do that, where you just
kind of swap houses.
Very interesting.
So just curious, weather-wise,what's the whole year look like
in terms of when's their winter?
What does that look likeweather-wise?
You said the summer, may, june.
I don't know if it's the sameas ours.
I know Australia has flippedaround.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, no, it's pretty much the same.
It's the same as ours.
What I would say, though, isthat, again, I would not think
about things being too warm inthe summer.
Always be prepared for rain.
Just because it's you know it'sgoing to rain on you.
It's a rare thing for it not to.
So, you know, pack yourwaterproof shoes and your good
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raincoat, and you know you canstill go in the winter.
I think one of the things that'smaybe that we don't think about
is the light, because it's somuch further north.
You know, the days definitelyget shorter.
You know, when I was there inNovember, december, january when
you're having those shortestdays and I was when I was in,
especially when I was in FortWilliam because I was a little
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bit further north the days arereally short.
You're talking 9.30 to 3.30.
So you got to get out and doyour stuff.
If you're going to go out for ahike or something like that,
the reverse, of course, is thatyou get these very long days in
late May, in June, into July.
That's kind of nice, becausethen you have these very long
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days to be able to takeadvantage of, to be in the
outdoors so what's the food like?
well, as I said, the food issurprisingly good.
I think that people don't.
You know you think about likefish and chips and you know
haggis is this thing that I'mnot even 100% sure what?
What it is?
It's like grains and stuff andthey stuff it into something.
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I don't eat meat.
I'm gluten sensitive, but Istill find it very easy to
actually eat there.
I do eat fish, so I eat thefish and the seafood Very fresh.
From what I understand, thingslike their beef is very good
because they have lots of placeswhere they can graze cows.
There's also a large deerpopulation, so I think the
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venison is actually you can getvery good venison there if
that's your thing.
So I think the food is betterthan what you think it's going
to be.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And haggis.
I just looked up and atraditional haggis recipe
includes sheep's heart, liverand lung.
Lung was suet, oatmeal andspices.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, yeah what people say, that it's really
good, and they actually do makeground beef yeah, they, it's
like a sausage kind of yeah butthey do make a vegetarian
version of it, but because ithas the grains in it, I can't,
you know, it's like I can'treally eat it, so, but people do
say that it's actually verygood.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's.
It says ingredients aretraditionally encased in a
sheep's stomach and boiled.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Although I guess you know when you're there and on an
island, you gotta eat.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
It's like you use it all yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
What was something that you?
What was your favorite mealthere?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Oh gosh, probably.
You know they do really good.
They do a lot of good salmonbecause you get the North
Atlantic salmon, so it probablya salmon dish because it's
really good and they do reallynice smoked salmons as well.
So it's like that's something Ipick up in the grocery store
like all the time because youcan pick it up pretty easily in
the grocery store and it'susually because you can pick it
up pretty easily in the grocerystore and it's usually, you know
it's, it's Scottish, you know.
The one thing that's kind ofreally surprising is you will
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find really good berries.
So they their berry season.
They grow a lot of berries,especially like kind of closer
to Edinburgh, like like the Fiferegion is kind of one of those
regions where they'll grow a lot.
So you get like I've had somesome of the best raspberries
there, oh, oh, all that waterright.
Well, yeah, I mean, and I justthink that they they've kind of
figured out ways to to grow someof this.
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You'll see those polyurethanekind of tunnels as well, so that
they can kind of get a littlebit longer growing season
because it doesn't get as coldin some places.
So those milder temperatures Ithink can help them out.
But you're going to find like areally lot of really good fresh
food there, surprisingly.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And what are some of the main holidays and how do
they celebrate?
Like I was curious, like theirbirthdays or Christmas or like?
Well, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I think they celebrate their birthdays pretty
much like we do.
I would say Christmas is a bigdeal, but their bigger deal is
because they there was a time,if you look back at the history,
they actually and it has somuch to do with their, with
their tumultuous history withEngland is that they weren't
allowed to celebrate Christmasfor a while.
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So their bigger holiday thenbecame New Year's, like New
Year's Eve and New Year's Day.
So they called Hogmanay andthat's definitely a big
celebration There'll be.
You know there's usually inEdinburgh particularly you will
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see a big celebration for NewYear's Eve with fireworks and
everything, and then New Year'sDay, like I was in the town of
Pitlochry on New Year's Day of2024.
In the town of Pitt Lockery onNew Year's Day of 2024.
And there was, like this bigstreet fair and you know,
traditional music and they had aKaley, which is like a dance
kind of thing.
It looks like it's spelledsomething really weird it's a
Gaelic word but it's pronouncedKaley and everybody's out there
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dancing and it was just so muchfun to be there and you know,
with with locals and touristsalike.
So so, yeah, so they tend tothey tend to make that a bigger
deal.
Christmas is still still a bigdeal.
So, yeah, it would have beensomething that, that that they
would have done like you know,way back in history.
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You know they would all meet ata local.
You know there would be a localhall or whatever meeting place
and that's where everybody wouldget together.
The community and that's kindof one of the things about
Scotland that I think is sogreat is just like they still
have those communities.
They still have thosetraditions.
You know people, young people,are taking up the traditional
music.
You know the bagpipes and thedrums.
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In fact there was a pipe anddrum band at this street fair
and I got teary eyed at the end,like I was there with my camera
and I'm like trying to takevideo and everything.
And there was a woman I don'tknow if she was like with her
husband or son I couldn't, Ididn't get a good look at him
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but she sort of she was you knowI'm short, so she's like
pushing me up to the front so Ican get that and I was like, oh,
thanks, you know.
And when they were done, I'mlike I had tears in my eyes and
I turned around and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm like that.
I said it's tears in my eyes.
She goes, yeah, she goes.
It gives you all the feels,doesn't it?
And I just, you know, it wasjust like all the All the feels,
all the feels.
That's what she said and that'skind of how I feel.
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I mean, I will be honest withyou this last time.
So when I had been in, I thinkI had been in.
Where was I?
I think I was in.
I'm trying to remember where Iwas this last time.
I was visiting a friend inSwitzerland and I flew back up
to Scotland and I got teary-eyedwhen we're flying in, and I got
teary-eyed when I, when youknow like we're flying in, and
then, when I left, come backhere to the States.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I start.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I told myself, lynn, you are not going to cry.
And I started to cry.
I felt like I was leaving home.
Wow.
You are a redhead.
It looks like you are I.
You know I, I.
I have a little little like myhair is.
I think it's the light in here.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm actually a brunette, but, oh God, it looked
like you look like from withthe headset on, but you look
like you're Irish.
You could be Irish as well,yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Irish at all?
Do you have any?
There's a little bit of Irishand I think there's probably
just a little bit of Scottish.
There's some stuff from up in,up in those up in the British
Isles.
I have yeah, I have more.
I think I probably have moreGerman in me.
I love Ireland.
I've been to Ireland like sixor seven times, but Scotland is
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just, I have to admit lately.
It's just, it's, it's been my,my place.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's really stolen my heart and that's great.
What would you say are the topthree places that you said?
Like if you had to pick three,if someone was coming check
these out, and that can be likea few different places.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
It kind of depends.
It could be somewhere moreremote, like Braemar.
You could stay somewhere likelike by Aviemore.
You could even stay down by PitLockery, because you can very
easily get into the park.
That way, I would probably say,I'd probably say in some ways
to go up to that far Northwest.
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I've stayed up around a towncalled Gerlach, but you don't
have to stay there.
There's a lot up there forpeople that want to do the
outdoors.
You just need to have a car.
And then I would probably say,yeah, stay somewhere around like
Fort William or Glencoe.
I didn't even mention Glencoe.
There's tons of hiking aroundthere.
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There's some beautiful drives.
There's a lot that you can doin that area as well.
And that was really hard for meto do.
I'm like thinking about 10 moreplaces in my head.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Are there pubs on every corner?
Is it very yeah.
You know in my head Are therepubs on every corner, is it very
yeah you know there are a lotof pubs.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, you know, there's definitely.
You know, kind of like Ireland,you can kind of find a pub most
anywhere and they are funplaces to go to.
Like I said, they make out onthe Isle of Lewis and Harris
Harris actually has a distilleryout there and it's called the
Isle of Harris Distillery.
They make really good gin andthey've just released their
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whiskey, I think maybe about inthe last year or so, so that's
Scottish whiskey we call Scotch.
So yeah, I mean that's theother thing.
It's like you know there's somany people that it would be
into something like that.
And again, there's so manytrails to get out onto locks, to
go onto beaches, to walk onmountains, to climb oh wow,
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that's amazing Castles toexplore stone circles, burial
tombs I didn't even mentionKilmartin Glen, which is another
place.
It's like off the beaten paththat most Americans don't know
about.
It's got all these burial tombsand and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
What was that one called?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Kill Martin Glenn.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Kill Martin Glenn Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
All right.
Well, we are coming up to ourend of our hour here and I have
our rapid fire questions, unlessyou have any final burning
questions.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
No, just looking at.
Martin Glenn.
That's a really yeah.
That's got lots of um yeah.
Lots to look at with this.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Burial yeah, you can actually get into some of the
burial chambers.
It's pretty, pretty interesting.
Wow, really.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Okay, there's a lot to do, exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
It's really really cool looking All right.
So what's a typical breakfastthat?
Speaker 3 (42:31):
you would have there what's your favorite breakfast?
I would say either what theycall porridge, which would be
oatmeal as long as it's glutenfree 100% gluten free, or like
scrambled eggs.
You know, farm fresh eggs.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
With smoked salmon.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Oh, that sounds like my perfect breakfast, it's good,
and then do you have a favoritedessert you talked about
berries.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
But are there any unique desserts that they have
there?
Gosh, I can't think of adessert they have.
They do really nice scones, butthat's more like what you would
have like with some tea orcoffee.
Yeah, cakes or puddings, they,yeah, you know, um no, but they
have this thing called tablet.
That's like condensed milk andsugar and it's like you'll see
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it, like they sell it everywhere.
It's like a little square andit's just like pure sugar, pure
sugar.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's a square solid.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah, oh okay, and it's called tablet.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
It's like, oh, I need this it's like it's like and
it's like nothing but pure sugaruh, it looks like well from
kind of it looks like it's likesmall little like fudge.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, yeah like fudge , like only it's.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
It's like small, almost bite-sized, correct yeah,
although they have it here indifferent bite-sides.
Yeah, like a sugar cube.
It looks like brown sugar.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
They have really nice ice creams too, because all the
cows there's good milk.
There are some specialty icecreams that you know from
certain companies and dairiesthat are pretty, pretty popular.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
All right, okay, and what's the popular religion up
there?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I don't know.
I think most people areprobably I think it's probably a
mix A lot of Presbyterians,maybe all yeah, mostly
Christians.
Oh, okay, got it.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
All right, and then what's the money situation there
?
Because they're not in theEuropean Union anymore, but do
they use the euro or somethingelse?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
No, they would always be using the same thing because
they're part of the UnitedKingdom, so it's the British
sterling pound, which theyalways would have been.
Oh, okay, got it.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
And then generally, do you travel like, use
everything on credit card or isthis cash?
Speaker 3 (44:47):
I tell you what you can use your credit card.
A lot in Scotland that it's oneplace that I would say they,
they are definitely.
You can use your credit card oryour debit card and tap, tap,
tap, there you go, Okay.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Very good and there may be a few.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
There may be a few places, but I tell you what,
since COVID it's a lot of use ofcard.
Very easy to use your cardthere.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Is there a lot of fees?
I know when I was traveling inBali and I tapped, tapped you
have.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, you have to.
That's one thing I always tellmy travel clients is be sure
that you have a credit card thatdoes not have a foreign
transaction fees, correct.
Yeah, I got stuck, but Ilearned it will add up it should
All right Great.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
And then the music.
We already talked about alittle bit bagpipes.
That's pretty common yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah, bagpipesipes.
And then there's another kindof they.
They have it like.
It's more like under the arm,it's kind of a smaller, it's not
as big um and and the drumskind of thing you'll.
You'll kind of you know the the,the music would be.
You know some of thetraditional music would be kind
of similar to, to what you wouldhear in Ireland.
I mean it's, you know, it's allit's, it's Celtic, so it's,
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it's going to be similar.
So you would get, you know, youwould get sort of a fiddle and
maybe an accordion and thatguitars, so you know, a pipe
maybe.
So you'll get a little bit ofeverything.
But but yeah, I mean anythingyou know, like the bagpipe, it's
just, it's just kind of one ofthose sounds that you're like
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that's very Scottish.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, and do a lot of places.
When you go out to eat, do theyhave live music or just no, not
really, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
I kind of feel like the music is a little bit harder
to come by, like I feel like inIreland, like the pubs it's a
little bit more popular, likeit's easier to come by.
You will still be able to findit in Scotland, but you'd
probably just have to make sureand seek, seek it out a little
bit more and just kind of seethere's definitely I mean they
definitely have like there aremusic festivals and things like
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that and there would be, therewould definitely be pubs where
they would have music and youknow the music still going to
run the gamut they'll still have.
Like I remember being out andyou know you'll hear something
that'll be a little bit more,you know, maybe modern like
acoustic, like you know kind ofindie, folk kind of stuff, maybe
as well too, a little bit ofeverything.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
But yeah, All right.
And then a final question theclosest place to surf?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I would imagine they're surfing with like like
really thick wetsuits, but yeah,very thick wet wetsuits.
You know, I'm not 100% surewhere the where the surfing is
the best there.
I've seen a little bit aroundSt Andrews, but probably I'm
kind of like wondering.
I'm kind of thinking the westcoast probably is a little bit
better over that way, and Iwould imagine that I'm kind of
also wondering if up like onthat like there's a little town
(47:48):
called Nairn Although I thinkwhen I was up there I saw
somebody on a stand uppaddleboard it wasn't surfy
enough.
I've definitely seen somepeople doing a little bit of
surfing at West Sands and StAndrews when the surf's kind of
been up a little bit, you know,when there's more wind.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
All right, and where can our listeners find you?
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Yeah, w-a-n-d-e-r.
So Wanderyourwaycom, and that'swhere you can find me on
Facebook, instagram, pinterestand, of course, if you are
interested in those small grouptours, you can go to
Wanderyourwayadvent Adventures.
So just add adventures ontherecom and you can find those
as well.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
And of course podcasts.
I was looking at the Dolomites.
I do this kind of like a HIITworkout H-I-I-T.
The gym on the bikes and I bikethrough the Dolomites, and so
that actually is very intriguing.
It looks a lot of fun and Ilove how you very intriguing, it
looks a lot of fun and I lovehow you have it.
You have a lot of detail inthere, which is great, and I
(48:49):
love how you have it, where youcan click on each day and then
it shows you pictures and whatyou're going to do each day, and
it's really well.
There's a map.
You have it very welldocumented, thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Thank you.
Yeah, that's a new endeavor forme, so fingers crossed that
that continues to grow, becausethat's something I've always
wanted to do is just be able toshare some of these of my
favorite places with you knowjust a small handful of like
minded travelers and and havepeople hopefully connect as well
over the love of you know,wherever we are.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Absolutely and just as a glance.
Most of them are they whenyou're hiking and outdoors are
they to visit like art galleriesor like points of interest?
Is that?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
a combination of things.
No, the hiking is mostespecially in the Dolomites.
You're just enjoying thebeautiful mountains and the
Dolomites are special, soabsolutely 100% kind of in there
.
Now there are some.
You know you have some culturalelements kind of built into it.
You know there are.
You know there'll be a coupletowns where you'll be able to go
(49:53):
in and see the beautifulchurches of the area, because
it's a very unique area and Iknow the September tour we're
going to an Abbey.
And then there's also some winegrowing regions kind of nearby
that we'll also visit, visitthose as well and kind of learn
a little bit about the wines ofthe area and the traditions and
stuff.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
So yeah, Nice Sounds fun, I'm sure.
Yeah, we'll love that.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Great to meet you, Lynn.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
I love talking to people that are so passionate
about a place.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
I learned so much I really do want to go.
It sounds like a lot of fun,scotland's amazing 2026.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
I'm ready to go back.
I'm ready to go back.
In fact, I probably need tobook a ticket.
Yeah, perfect.
Wonderful Thanks so much have.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Thanks so much.
Have a great weekend, all right.
Thanks you, ladies too.
Have a great weekend.
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Hi, welcome to our podcast when Next Travel with
Kristen and Carol.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I am Kristen and I am Carol.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And we're two long-term friends with a passion
for travel and adventure.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Each episode, we interview people around the
globe to help us decide where togo next.
So today we have Lynn Neiman.
She is the host of Wander yourWay podcast and we're going to
talk about what your podcast is,what other things you talk
about, but we're going to focusspecifically on Scotland today.
Since you were there, you'vespent a lot of time there and we
(00:50):
love talking about slow traveland spending time in places for
maybe more than a couple ofweeks and so six months.
But yeah, so we're excited tohear about your story.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
So my business is Wonder your Way and I have a
podcast, a blog.
I started with the blog.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh, you did Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, so I have a blog first, but I also am a
travel planner, so I'm a fullservice travel agent.
But I specialize in Europe andI like to have people I named
the business Wonder your Waybecause I want people to travel
their way.
So I kind of ditch the cookiecutter.
I like to get to know myclients, I like to know what
their interests are, because Ibelieve that no two people are
(01:27):
alike, so no two trips should bealike.
So I really try to get to knowmy clients and so I can really
customize a trip tailored totheir needs.
They only have a week and theyreally want to go, go, go.
Other people who maybe want toslow down and maybe they have a
few weeks to travel or maybethey're able to travel longer,
and so I can kind of recommendthe proper countries, the cities
(01:49):
, the regions, the small towns,the outdoor things, whatever it
is that they want to do, whetherthey're into more, you know,
cultural, like museums, or ifthey're more into hiking.
So I tend to be less of a cityperson and more of a hiking
person, but you know, I doappreciate the cities and have a
few cities that I really like.
So after the blog, I decided tostart a podcast, you know, in
the midst of the pandemic whichI think a lot of people did.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So so, yeah, so I started that, and that's you
know.
I put out a podcast episodeevery other week.
I'm having fun with it.
In fact, we might even go toweekly.
So yeah, wow, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Now do you full time as a career.
You're a travel agent.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's mostly.
I have a like a very part timeremote job where I do some
community management and I dolike email, newsletters and
stuff.
You know it's maybe like 30hours a month at the most.
But yeah, I will say it's alittle slow this year starting
off.
But we are going in the rightdirection and the new thing that
(02:49):
I have, if I can just kind ofput a plug out for this is I am
starting small group tours and Icall them Wonder your Way
Adventures.
So I have a few of those for2025.
A couple going to the Dolomitesof Italy, there's one still for
Ireland that's open and we arelooking at Scotland for 2026.
So I'm happy about Scotlandtoday.
(03:11):
So I was unable to.
The company that I wanted towork with was not available for
2025.
So they told me 2026 and I saidlet's do it so, so yeah 2026 is
when you're going to Italy.
The Dolomites, no 2025.
That's this year, in fact,there's one in June and there's
one in September.
So if you would go to Wonderyour Way Adventures that's
(03:32):
W-A-N-D-E-R, wonder your WayAdventures you would see the
trips there.
Small group tours, keeping itsmall, personally curated by me,
so that we are going to theplaces that I've been to and
want to want to spend time andwant to share with you.
Know people that are interested.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, so I have to ask a question, because we all
love travel here, but Chris andI have, you know, normal.
I'm not saying normal just likevery corporate, you know,
independent corporate job, solike we're, you know, grinding
and like a travel career, soundsreally cool.
Does does any of it fade whenit becomes like your primary job
, or is it still like?
Oh, my God, I can't believe I'mdoing this.
(04:11):
This is so fun.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's a good question.
There are days where it can geta little.
It can get a little I don'twant to say tedious, but it can
get a little challenging, get alittle challenging and sometimes
I think it's just sometimes, Ithink, finding the accommodation
like for like, depending onwhen like, how much lead time
we've got, how big, how manypeople are going.
When I get people like I thinkI remember last year it's like I
(04:35):
had a family and then they hadlike three kids, but they were
all older.
So it was like you know, inEurope they don't do like.
You know, we have our hotelrooms here where you've got like
maybe two queen size beds in aroom or whatever.
So you can kind of put a familyof four in there if you want to
.
They don't do that so much inEurope.
So it's harder to find hotelrooms to fit families so that
(04:58):
you know, unless they have likeone younger child like I've got
some people actually going toScotland and there's a husband
and wife and they're travelingwith their six-year-old daughter
.
That's a little easier becauseshe's smaller.
We can kind of put her whereverthey can roll in an extra
little like cot, something small, that she can still fit in.
Then I've got another trip,actually for my niece and her
(05:19):
husband and their 15-year-olddaughter.
That's a little bit morechallenging because she's a full
grown young lady and she needsa whole, she needs a regular
size bed, so that becomes alittle bit more challenging.
So that's when, that's when Ifeel like it gets hard, because
when it when, when I'm trying tofind that diamond in the rough,
so to speak, or that needle ina haystack, it gets a little, it
(05:40):
can get difficult.
Wow, that is so.
That's the challenge.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
People need you yes people do need me.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
And how often do you travel in a year?
It kind of depends when I kindof first started my business,
obviously like I didn't feellike I had the you know the
means to be able to travel fortoo long but I would be gone for
a couple of months, and so Ikind of did that.
And then a lot of personalthings, because I started my
business at the end of 2013.
And so I kind of did that.
And then a lot of personalthings, because I started my
business at the end of 2013.
(06:07):
My mom passed away in early2015.
I didn't travel again until2017.
I think I traveled in 17, 18, 19.
I did a week in Paris rightbefore the pandemic in 2020.
Then the pandemic hit.
Then I was able to, as thingsstarted to open up in Europe.
At the end of 2021, I traveledfor, I think, four months.
Two of those months were inScotland, came back.
(06:30):
My dad was diagnosed then withcancer and he passed then in
2023.
So 2022, I wasn't able to goaway.
But then, 2023, both my parents, who I was, you know, helping
to take care of well, I livedwith them, so I was taking care
of them were gone, and so I wasable then to kind of go and do a
little bit more of a digitalnomad lifestyle in 2023.
(06:53):
So then I was gone for, like Idon't know, seven, eight months
in 2023, and then six months in2024.
This year I'm going to scaleback a little bit just because,
like I said, business it's alittle slow.
I feel like people are a littlereluctant to travel right now.
They're kind of watching theirmoney and just things being
uncertain.
People are feeling a littlereluctant and that's fine, I
(07:13):
understand.
I'm still getting some peopleand I do hope that people still
will travel because Europe willwelcome you with open arms.
So I do try to be gone for, youknow, at least a few months.
I mean, it's always kind of mygoal to be gone for at least
maybe like three months, if notmore.
Nice, that's like perfect yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Okay, cool.
Work your other job anywhere.
Sounds like that remote.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah , that remote job, it's like
it's, yeah, it's, I can do thatwherever.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'm in Cincinnati Ohio.
I'm just kind of in the suburbs, so in the Midwest.
That's where I grew up.
Because I'm not around a wholelot, I'm just renting a room
from my sister and her husband,who are retired.
So I'm kind of the girl thatthey let up from down in the
basement.
Every now and again I come upand I'm like hi, because I have
(08:03):
kind of my own space down here,except for the kitchen.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So yeah, it works out well.
Yeah, Okay.
So what do you like aboutScotland?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Oh gosh, you know I feel like Scotland is one of
those countries that kind of hasa little bit.
It's got something for everyone.
You know you've got a couple ofreally great cities in
Edinburgh and Glasgow.
I have not been to Glasgow yet.
I have a friend who's aGlaswegian.
He keeps saying you need to getover here.
But you have these two amazingcities and then you have all
(08:35):
these wonderful small towns.
You have beautiful outdoor.
I mean you can do everything,from time along the water and
the sea to the locks or thelakes, mountains.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
They call them locks instead of lakes Locks.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Lock you have to say it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh, hence the Loch Ness Monster, yeah, l-o-c-h.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Is that what I found?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, L-O-C-H.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
L-O-C-H.
Yeah, loch Ness is one of the.
I think it's the largest lakeas far as, like, it's the
deepest, it's not the prettiest,and they will call them the
inland lakes, will be lochs andthen on the west coast you will
see loch as a sea loch, whichmeans it's more like we would
think of it more like a bay.
Oh, okay, so they do.
(09:19):
On the west coast They'll stillcall them lochs.
There.
I have a good Scottish friendwho's actually also a guide
there, so I get a lot of, a lotof information from her.
So I feel like that it haseverything you know.
There's all this great historywith with Scotland.
You know it's very interesting,intriguing, very tumultuous
because of their push and pullwith England.
(09:39):
And are they independent?
Are they not over all thecenturies?
Are they independent?
Are they not Over all thecenturies?
So there's a lot of you know.
There's a lot of historicalsites for people that enjoy that
, and cultural sites.
The food is actuallysurprisingly good, especially if
you are into like, maybe goodbeef or venison, seafood, mild
(10:01):
white fish, very good.
They have a very strong kind offarm-to-table, seed-to-table
movement, I think there too,yeah, so the food is
surprisingly good.
You've got whiskey, of course.
They make really good gin.
Their beers are pretty good.
Obviously they don't make wineif you're into your alcoholic
beverages, but if you're not,you know they have good water.
(10:22):
Yeah, it's not like there'sprobably a lot of water.
Huh, yeah, yeah, there is.
There's a lot of coastline, andthe other thing is there are a
lot of islands.
I mean, there's like Really.
Oh yeah, there's what is the.
I've got it here.
I got my map my Google map.
There are.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Oh, I see the Kirkawale.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Lerwick there are technically 790 islands.
94 out of 790 are inhabited.
So if you want to do islandtime, it's kind of a great thing
to do in Scotland.
And what I would say is youdon't think about places like
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Scotland having beautifulbeaches, but there are some
really spectacular beaches.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You have to go in the summer, though You're not going
to be in your bikini.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I was going to ask that.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
You're going to be cold but, yeah, the weather
there is never.
You're never going to have very, very warm weather.
I mean, if you get like 70 to75 degrees Fahrenheit, which is
low 20s in Celsius, you knowyou're lucky.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
you know, in the summer, Like San Francisco,
weather all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, but it will get cold.
I mean there will be, I meanthey can get snow.
I've been there in the winterbecause of the mountains.
You will definitely get somesnow at some of the higher
elevations in the winter andsometimes even a little lower.
Yeah, it's just, it's abeautiful country and it just
like the people.
I would say that's probablyyour number one reason to go is
the people are some of thenicest on the planet, can't?
(11:58):
always understand them.
Some of them have a very strongaccent, but but yeah, they are
there, they are just super nice.
They will stop and talk to youabout anything.
I mean, I can't even tell youhow many times I've just been
out on a trail and somebodystarts up a conversation with
you, and especially withAmericans.
I think that they're alwaysintrigued to hear about our
(12:22):
lives.
They will talk about ourpolitics as well.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Some of them will Some of them won't, some of them
, will some of them?
Won't?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
some of them will, so but yeah, it's, it's great fun,
it's, it's such a, it's justsuch a beautiful country and I
just think it has a littlesomething for everyone.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So when were you there and how long were you
there for, did you say?
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So I've been there a few times.
So my first visit there I wasthere for probably just a few
weeks and I actually walked along distance trail called the
West Highland Way.
It's pretty popular, and so ittook me a week.
I walked 96 miles.
I had a company actually a verysmall company kind of set it all
up for me so, like she did, shekind of booked my B&Bs that I
(13:03):
stayed in so that I didn't haveto take all of my stuff with me
because I was traveling for acouple months, like I had been
over in Ireland and I was goingto be going down to England.
So I had my big bag theytransfer your big bag to each of
your kind of, you know, stopsand I just had my day pack with
me.
So I was hiking, you know, justwith my stuff that I need for
(13:23):
the day food and water, extraclothing, and that was my
introduction to Scotland.
I landed in Glasgow and I wentto this little kind of northern
suburb, started the hike andtook a week and walked it and
ended up actually having awonderful time, made a friend
who I'm still in contact with.
We met along the trail.
(13:44):
Yeah, I had beautiful weather,which was surprising.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
What time of year?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
did you go?
That was May, May of 2017.
And that's a good time to go.
It really is.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Question also like stay for women travelers when
you're on the trail doing thatdid you?
You stayed and B&B'd.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, more like a bed and breakfast or like hotels.
It kind of just depended onwhich town you were, which which
, which town you were in andwhat kind of tourist amenities
they had.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And what was that called?
Again the trail.
That's 96 miles.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That sounds really fun West Highland Way, yeah, and
I can send a lot of links toyou guys, so you guys have them,
thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
So then I didn't go back untilduring the pandemic in 2021.
I had met a woman at the time,so I spent a couple of days in
Edinburgh and I went up to StAndrews because I really my dad
(14:35):
was still alive, my dad was abig golfer and I went up to St
Andrews to go and do a tour ofthe old course there and my
guide happened to be this womanby the name of Bo Frazier the
old course there and my guidehappened to be this woman by the
name of Bo Frazier, and she andI became friends.
She's a Blue Badge guide and wehave kind of stayed connected.
(14:55):
So when I went back to Scotlandin 2021, I went and stayed with
her and her husband for a fewdays and then I went over to a
town called Fort William over onthe West Coast because St
Andrews is on the East Coast andhad an Airbnb booked for like
two months over there and I wasjust so.
I was there November, december.
So I was there when the dayswere getting very short, when
the weather was getting cold.
(15:16):
I saw snow, I saw sideways,rain, I had beautiful sunshiny
days, a little bit of everything, but I just kind of just
hunkered down and stayed therefor a while and it was great
Fort Williams.
Fort Williams not like thecutest of little towns Most of
your cute villages and kind ofcharming villages are going to
be further south compared to inthe Highlands, just because
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that's just kind of how thingssort of developed in Scotland.
But it's a great base for doingoutdoor things because it's the
end of the West Highland Way.
But it's a great base for doingoutdoor things because it's the
end of the West Highland Way.
So that's where you end.
And then Ben Nevis, which isthe highest peak in all of Great
Britain and all of the UnitedKingdom, is right there.
So a lot of people stay thereand they'll.
They'll do the summit of BenNevis.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
What was that?
Speaker 2 (16:05):
What was that town that when that not so great, but
a good base for William FortWilliam badge by a guide.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You said a blue badge , guide.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So they have to go through a specific type of
training.
In fact, it's almost like ayear and half to two years.
And it's pretty, it's prettyrigorous, and so they have to go
through and they really have tohave the knowledge.
So, and usually like, like, soshe's a blue badge guide for
like, uh, for like all ofscotland okay, wow so yeah does
(16:34):
she like?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
is it like a travel agent or she's a?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
guide, so she's a driver guide I meant, that's
what I meant.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Sorry so, but you would hire her to like take you
all over Scotland.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
You can, you can, yeah, somebody like her Like if
you wanted to, if you wanted tohire somebody.
She's not cheap.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, and who comes to her?
I was just curious who comes toher.
Is it companies, corporations?
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, Sometimes it is and then sometimes sometimes
she gets individuals.
It kind of depends.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So if you're booking a trip, would you then hire her?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
or you're, I, I I.
A lot of times, if I havepeople that want to do something
like that, I always reach outto her first, and then she.
Usually, if she's busy, thenshe hands me off to somebody
else that she knows.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And so when you say expensive, like what does that
look like?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Oh, you know what?
I'm not a hundred percent surewhat her, what her fees are, but
yeah, but yeah sure what her,what her fees are, but yeah, but
yeah, it's like a per daybecause I know like yeah, it'll
be and it'll depend on whatyou're doing.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
So that's all I can say.
I was in bali and I um someonethat I know set me there and she
was like I have a driver, andso I just paid him like 35 bucks
a day and he took me yeah,she's a lot more than that yeah,
absolutely, um, yeah, but yeah,so all the little I had to
worry about it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I have kids.
We went all over the place, butyeah, that would be different.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
But yeah, so all the little islands, there's a lot,
and there's even ones that, andit says Hebrides, hebrides.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
So, there's the Inner Hebrides and the Outer Hebrides
.
The Inner Hebrides are justcloser to the mainland and the
Outer Hebrides are a little bitfurther.
So, like a couple of theislands I've been, the Isle of
Skye is the most popular.
It's the most popular becauseit is breathtaking.
I went there on my first visitand it's beautiful.
I had a car, which is how Iwould recommend to get around,
(18:21):
because it's a little difficult.
You can get to some places viatrain and you can use buses, but
a car gives you a littledifficult.
You can get to some places viatrain and you can use buses, but
a car gives you a little bitmore freedom and will get you
into the nooks and crannies andwill to probably allow you to
also get, if you wanted to go tothe islands, to be able to
really transport yourself aroundthe islands a little bit easier
.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
But the islands Do they drive on the?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
left side.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
They drive on.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
yes, yeah, so the opposite.
Yeah, because they're they'repart of the part of the united
kingdom, so so you know, so theyuh drive on the left side.
So, like the isle of sky wouldbe kind of one that you know, I
would say, yeah, go there, butit's very, it's gotten a little
bit over touristed and as such,because it's know, I think one
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of the things that I would justkind of say to your listeners is
that don't assume that you'regoing to be able to find
accommodation super easy.
A lot of these towns they'revillages or settlements.
There's not a lot to them onceyou kind of get away from
Edinburgh and Glasgow as such,there's not a lot of
(19:28):
accommodation choices there.
And it's the same when you getout onto the Isle of Skye.
There's only so much there andif you have all this influx of
people then you're not going.
It's going to be harder for youto find places to stay.
So that's where, like, it'sessential to book in advance for
your trip because of the factthat these places, you know
(19:49):
they're small.
You got these little B&Bs.
They maybe only have like fourrooms.
It's very easy to fill up fourrooms.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
So you know, if there's only 10 places that have
four rooms.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You know you can do the math very easily and you can
find out that there's just, youknow, maybe not a whole lot
there, so it's very, veryessential to do that.
But the Isle of Skye isdefinitely one place I am a big
fan of the Isle of Lewis atHarris, which is, even though
it's two names, it's really oneisland.
It's a little bit further northfrom Skye.
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I went there in 2023 and stayedon the Harris part, which is a
southern part, which I would sayis the more interesting part.
There's a beautiful beach therecalled Luskentire.
It's kind of one of the most,kind of one of the more famous
beaches in Scotland.
It's a gorgeous, gorgeousstretch of sand, never really
warm.
I just think I was able to wearshorts and a short sleeve shirt
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at one point in early September.
Just a beautiful place.
Lots of natural beauty, theCalanish Standing Stones, which
are pretty popular on the Lewispart, which is the northern part
of the island.
That part of the island's alittle flatter, but just a
beautiful place.
And then this last year, in2024, I went to the Isle of Mull
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, which is a little furthersouth off the coast.
You'll see, it's by Oban.
Oban is where you catch theferry.
It's only maybe about 45, 50minutes to get over by ferry.
But wow, what a beautifulisland.
I totally fell in love with it.
But boy I tell you what,driving it's almost a whole
single track.
There's probably a stretch of10 miles that you that's.
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You've got two lanes.
All the rest is single track andI loved it oh, my gosh island
of isle of mole, m-u-l-l andthere's all these m-u-l-l is
that when I'm seeing theselittle um houses lines the
water's edge with oh that'stober, so tobermory is the main
town and that's yeah, that wouldbe like you know.
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You would probably be able tofind places to stay.
I stayed at nearby Dervig,which is just maybe seven or
eight miles away, but it took meprobably maybe 20 minutes to
drive because of the singletrack road and it was all kind
of windy.
Yeah, it's absolutely beautiful.
Again, you'll find like there'slike the mountainous interior,
there's some beautiful beachesaround, it's just, it's a
stunning, stunning place.
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And that's how I feel about alot of Scotland.
Like a lot of people don't makeit maybe all the way up to like
the far kind of Northwest.
There's a driving route.
They call it the North Coast500.
It's gotten a little bit busybut it's way up in that
Northwest corner You'll see likethis piece of land, if you look
at a map, kind of sticking upthere into the North Sea and
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that driving route is about 500miles.
But that driving route is not,you know, you're talking about
two lane roads.
I'm trying to think if there'sany single track along there.
There might be.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I've never done the whole thing, so you're saying
like way up north, near, likeUllapool and Dingwall.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, oh yeah, ullipol is where you would get
the ferry, like over to um tolewis and harris, so, but up
there, like gerlach olipol, umon up to um elfin.
I don't have the map in frontof me so I'm kind of trying to
remember that's yeah so, butthat that area is just beautiful
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, it's stunning.
It's very rugged and remote.
Again, again, you know there'snot necessarily going to be tons
of places to stay.
It's about the landscape upthere.
You know there's not going tobe necessarily a ton of like
sites per se.
You'll see some.
There's some lighthouses out onplaces, but it's just
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spectacular.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Okay, wow, I this.
I had a stereotype of likedingy, cold stone houses and
people drinking at the pub, likethat's what I think.
Oh my gosh, yeah, awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
And like in the center part, it's like, you know
, you get sort of your boggy,sort of your peaty boggy land
which you know you would seethat like in parts of Ireland,
like in Connemara Ireland orplaces like that, but you'll see
some of that as well and it'sjust, you know it's a very
different ecosystem and you knowjust totally different
landscape and it's reallybeautiful, you know.
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And then you kind of get downinto like along the East Coast
kind of like if you go likenorth of Edinburgh, between like
Edinburgh and like aroundAberdeen, that area that's
Aberdeenshire there's, you know,you'll see a lot of castles
around there.
Of course, you know Balmoral isout there, which is the royal
residence, the royal Scottishresidence.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
So all these beautiful castles?
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Balmoral yeah, b-a-l-m-o-r-a-l.
It would be near Ballater,braymar, some of the little
towns it's like in CairngormsNational Park, which I remember
mentioning that my friend waslooking at the map.
She goes that big green glob inthe middle of the country oh
yeah that's karen gorms, sothat's all like national park
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within there and you've got kindof a more of a main road, the
a9 that goes up the um, the sortof the western side.
But that eastern side is is alittle quieter and there's just
a small road, just a great drivethat goes from ballater up to
granton and spay.
Part of it's a track and thenpart of it's not.
It's a gorgeous drive.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Wow, I looked at Balmoral and it looks like a
fairy tale castle.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, and it's only open at certain times because of
it being kind of the summerScottish residence of the royal
family of the King.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Looking at it, I feel like I'm looking at Shrek.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yeah, so, but there are other castles.
So there's a, there's a rivercalled the River Dee out there
that supposedly I know a coupleof people there that live there
that are that fish and that's abig fishing river.
But that that river along therethere are some other castles
along there too, so they call itRoyal Deeside.
Like I said, there are someother castles along there too,
so they call it Royal Deeside.
Like I said, there's justsomething for everyone.
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And then you go down likearound St Andrews.
That region is called theregion of Fife and if you kind
of go around the coast they'vekind of got all the sort of like
the Fife kind of coastal littletowns that are just they're
charming little fishing villages.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
So when you went the second time for a couple months,
did you just like bounce around, because obviously you saw a
lot.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
No, I just stayed in Fort Williams.
So when I went back then in2020, I've been four times.
So when I went in 2023, I spentI have to think about this,
because I was just about at theend of my staying my UK visa,
because you can for six monthsand I spent about a month in six
months.
I spent about a month inEngland.
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So I must have been in Scotlandfor about four, four and a half
months maybe.
So I spent a couple of monthsand I actually did a road trip.
So I literally like started outkind of in that Royal Decide
area and I went up to the north,went all around, I went out to
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Lewis and Harris, I came down, Iwent all the way and I went all
the way down into Dumfries andGalloway, which is south of
Glasgow.
So that's that region.
So it goes down and it's kindof the border.
It's that western border withEngland and then I went over to
the borders, which is theeastern border with England, and
I literally like pretty muchwent around the country in two
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months of a road trip so that'swhen I got to really see like
everything.
And then in 2024, I was justthere and I was kind of
hopscotching a little bit allaround because I got to really
see like everything.
And then in 2024, I was justthere and I was kind of
hopscotching a little bit allaround because I went to the
Open Championship, the golf.
I went to Royal, which was inRoyal Troon, so I kind of had to
make my trip a little bitaround that because I had
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tickets.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
So yeah, Okay, and so say Fort Williams, to like the
top, the north, where you wantto go tour around Like how long
is it a day drive, a half a day,two days.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Well, yeah, I mean oh no, I mean you can.
You can get up there in a fewhours.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah.
It depends exactly where you'regoing to go.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Yeah, Exactly where you're going to go up there.
But yeah, you can go up.
I wouldn't do it like as a daytrip, like going up and back.
If you were basing yourself inFort William, I you would want
to go up and, you know, spendthe night or two up there and
spend a couple of nights upthere.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, absolutely so.
Did you rent a?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
house, then when you're in Fort.
William so um, yeah so I I hadan Airbnb, so I rented an
apartment.
Okay, For those two months.
And then you know.
So then I've had other timeswhere I've maybe rented, like I
know, in 2024, I rented, youknow, an apartment, a flat, for
like two weeks in a little towncalled Blair Athol which is
right near pit lockery.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yes.
So if like for a month, to sayI want to go for a month like
what's, what's the range?
Two grand a month three grand amonth.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah, I would say it's going to depend on exactly
where you are, because thoseplaces that are stronger holiday
places, where the Scots arealso going to go or the English
are going to come up, areprobably going to be a little
bit more.
If you kind of find some ofthose towns that are maybe not
as much of a holiday place or avacation spot, um, they're going
to be a little cheaper.
So, you know, I would say, andagain, if it's, you know, is it
a studio?
Is it a one bedroom, a twobedroom?
yeah, just say like a onebedroom you know.
So one bedroom place yeah yeah,um, you know you might be
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talking about a, um, you know, acouple, a couple thousand, but
you might be able to findsomething cheaper than that and
again, it's going to depend onthe season, because obviously
you know, during the summerseasons, you know, or if you go,
like they tend to have their,their schools get what they call
a half term, and usually theyhave something in May and then
they have something in Octoberand they're all staggered, you
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know.
So it's like these kids are outof school and then the next week
these kids are out of school.
So you kind of have to watchthat too.
But was it hard to findsomething for a whole month or
just.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Airbnb.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You know, airbnb maybe isn't always the best.
Sometimes I kind of find thatif you kind of Google your
specific area that you'restaying in, sometimes like you
can find long-term rentals thatway and they they tend to call
them like um, holiday homes orholiday apartments,
self-catering places.
So you know, those would kindof be some of the terms that I
would use, um, as you Google it,um, and you would be able to
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find some places that, yeah, weused to do we used to do like
craigslist for that back in theday.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I don't know if people still use craigslist or
facebook groups.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I hear like you find like expat facebook groups or
something yeah, you might beable to find something there,
you know again, you know, airbnbsometimes is a good place to
start.
I mean sometimes even going onbookingcom, sometimes, people
you know because you can find,you can find places there that
are more apartments.
But then again, like I think,also just kind of diving in,
because some of them don't putstuff out there as much like on
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Airbnb.
They don't want to, and I thinkthat they've kind of had some
weird kind of laws and rules, Ithink around that that the
governments are kind of puttingin and it's just, I think, so
that they're watching like who'sactually renting out.
So some people may not actuallyputting it out onto Airbnb.
So like house swapping too.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I know I've heard people do that, where you just
kind of swap houses.
Very interesting.
So just curious, weather-wise,what's the whole year look like
in terms of when's their winter?
What does that look likeweather-wise?
You said the summer, may, june.
I don't know if it's the sameas ours.
I know Australia has flippedaround.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, no, it's pretty much the same.
It's the same as ours.
What I would say, though, isthat, again, I would not think
about things being too warm inthe summer.
Always be prepared for rain.
Just because it's you know it'sgoing to rain on you.
It's a rare thing for it not to.
So, you know, pack yourwaterproof shoes and your good
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raincoat, and you know you canstill go in the winter.
I think one of the things that'smaybe that we don't think about
is the light, because it's somuch further north.
You know, the days definitelyget shorter.
You know, when I was there inNovember, december, january when
you're having those shortestdays and I was when I was in,
especially when I was in FortWilliam because I was a little
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bit further north the days arereally short.
You're talking 9.30 to 3.30.
So you got to get out and doyour stuff.
If you're going to go out for ahike or something like that,
the reverse, of course, is thatyou get these very long days in
late May, in June, into July.
That's kind of nice, becausethen you have these very long
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days to be able to takeadvantage of, to be in the
outdoors so what's the food like?
well, as I said, the food issurprisingly good.
I think that people don't.
You know you think about likefish and chips and you know
haggis is this thing that I'mnot even 100% sure what?
What it is?
It's like grains and stuff andthey stuff it into something.
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I don't eat meat.
I'm gluten sensitive, but Istill find it very easy to
actually eat there.
I do eat fish, so I eat thefish and the seafood Very fresh.
From what I understand, thingslike their beef is very good
because they have lots of placeswhere they can graze cows.
There's also a large deerpopulation, so I think the
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venison is actually you can getvery good venison there if
that's your thing.
So I think the food is betterthan what you think it's going
to be.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
And haggis.
I just looked up and atraditional haggis recipe
includes sheep's heart, liverand lung.
Lung was suet, oatmeal andspices.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, yeah what people say, that it's really
good, and they actually do makeground beef yeah, they, it's
like a sausage kind of yeah butthey do make a vegetarian
version of it, but because ithas the grains in it, I can't,
you know, it's like I can'treally eat it, so, but people do
say that it's actually verygood.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's.
It says ingredients aretraditionally encased in a
sheep's stomach and boiled.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Very interesting.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Although I guess you know when you're there and on an
island, you gotta eat.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
It's like you use it all yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
What was something that you?
What was your favorite mealthere?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Oh gosh, probably.
You know they do really good.
They do a lot of good salmonbecause you get the North
Atlantic salmon, so it probablya salmon dish because it's
really good and they do reallynice smoked salmons as well.
So it's like that's something Ipick up in the grocery store
like all the time because youcan pick it up pretty easily in
the grocery store and it'susually because you can pick it
up pretty easily in the grocerystore and it's usually, you know
it's, it's Scottish, you know.
The one thing that's kind ofreally surprising is you will
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find really good berries.
So they their berry season.
They grow a lot of berries,especially like kind of closer
to Edinburgh, like like the Fiferegion is kind of one of those
regions where they'll grow a lot.
So you get like I've had somesome of the best raspberries
there, oh, oh, all that waterright.
Well, yeah, I mean, and I justthink that they they've kind of
figured out ways to to grow someof this.
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You'll see those polyurethanekind of tunnels as well, so that
they can kind of get a littlebit longer growing season
because it doesn't get as coldin some places.
So those milder temperatures Ithink can help them out.
But you're going to find like areally lot of really good fresh
food there, surprisingly.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
And what are some of the main holidays and how do
they celebrate?
Like I was curious, like theirbirthdays or Christmas or like?
Well, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I think they celebrate their birthdays pretty
much like we do.
I would say Christmas is a bigdeal, but their bigger deal is
because they there was a time,if you look back at the history,
they actually and it has somuch to do with their, with
their tumultuous history withEngland is that they weren't
allowed to celebrate Christmasfor a while.
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So their bigger holiday thenbecame New Year's, like New
Year's Eve and New Year's Day.
So they called Hogmanay andthat's definitely a big
celebration There'll be.
You know there's usually inEdinburgh particularly you will
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see a big celebration for NewYear's Eve with fireworks and
everything, and then New Year'sDay, like I was in the town of
Pitlochry on New Year's Day of2024.
In the town of Pitt Lockery onNew Year's Day of 2024.
And there was, like this bigstreet fair and you know,
traditional music and they had aKaley, which is like a dance
kind of thing.
It looks like it's spelledsomething really weird it's a
Gaelic word but it's pronouncedKaley and everybody's out there
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dancing and it was just so muchfun to be there and you know,
with with locals and touristsalike.
So so, yeah, so they tend tothey tend to make that a bigger
deal.
Christmas is still still a bigdeal.
So, yeah, it would have beensomething that, that that they
would have done like you know,way back in history.
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You know they would all meet ata local.
You know there would be a localhall or whatever meeting place
and that's where everybody wouldget together.
The community and that's kindof one of the things about
Scotland that I think is sogreat is just like they still
have those communities.
They still have thosetraditions.
You know people, young people,are taking up the traditional
music.
You know the bagpipes and thedrums.
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In fact there was a pipe anddrum band at this street fair
and I got teary eyed at the end,like I was there with my camera
and I'm like trying to takevideo and everything.
And there was a woman I don'tknow if she was like with her
husband or son I couldn't, Ididn't get a good look at him
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but she sort of she was you knowI'm short, so she's like
pushing me up to the front so Ican get that and I was like, oh,
thanks, you know.
And when they were done, I'mlike I had tears in my eyes and
I turned around and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm like that.
I said it's tears in my eyes.
She goes, yeah, she goes.
It gives you all the feels,doesn't it?
And I just, you know, it wasjust like all the All the feels,
all the feels.
That's what she said and that'skind of how I feel.
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I mean, I will be honest withyou this last time.
So when I had been in, I thinkI had been in.
Where was I?
I think I was in.
I'm trying to remember where Iwas this last time.
I was visiting a friend inSwitzerland and I flew back up
to Scotland and I got teary-eyedwhen we're flying in, and I got
teary-eyed when I, when youknow like we're flying in, and
then, when I left, come backhere to the States.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I start.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I told myself, lynn, you are not going to cry.
And I started to cry.
I felt like I was leaving home.
Wow.
You are a redhead.
It looks like you are I.
You know I, I.
I have a little little like myhair is.
I think it's the light in here.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I'm actually a brunette, but, oh God, it looked
like you look like from withthe headset on, but you look
like you're Irish.
You could be Irish as well,yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Irish at all?
Do you have any?
There's a little bit of Irishand I think there's probably
just a little bit of Scottish.
There's some stuff from up in,up in those up in the British
Isles.
I have yeah, I have more.
I think I probably have moreGerman in me.
I love Ireland.
I've been to Ireland like sixor seven times, but Scotland is
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just, I have to admit lately.
It's just, it's, it's been my,my place.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
It's really stolen my heart and that's great.
What would you say are the topthree places that you said?
Like if you had to pick three,if someone was coming check
these out, and that can be likea few different places.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
It kind of depends.
It could be somewhere moreremote, like Braemar.
You could stay somewhere likelike by Aviemore.
You could even stay down by PitLockery, because you can very
easily get into the park.
That way, I would probably say,I'd probably say in some ways
to go up to that far Northwest.
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I've stayed up around a towncalled Gerlach, but you don't
have to stay there.
There's a lot up there forpeople that want to do the
outdoors.
You just need to have a car.
And then I would probably say,yeah, stay somewhere around like
Fort William or Glencoe.
I didn't even mention Glencoe.
There's tons of hiking aroundthere.
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There's some beautiful drives.
There's a lot that you can doin that area as well.
And that was really hard for meto do.
I'm like thinking about 10 moreplaces in my head.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Are there pubs on every corner?
Is it very yeah.
You know in my head Are therepubs on every corner, is it very
yeah you know there are a lotof pubs.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, you know, there's definitely.
You know, kind of like Ireland,you can kind of find a pub most
anywhere and they are funplaces to go to.
Like I said, they make out onthe Isle of Lewis and Harris
Harris actually has a distilleryout there and it's called the
Isle of Harris Distillery.
They make really good gin andthey've just released their
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whiskey, I think maybe about inthe last year or so, so that's
Scottish whiskey we call Scotch.
So yeah, I mean that's theother thing.
It's like you know there's somany people that it would be
into something like that.
And again, there's so manytrails to get out onto locks, to
go onto beaches, to walk onmountains, to climb oh wow,
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that's amazing Castles toexplore stone circles, burial
tombs I didn't even mentionKilmartin Glen, which is another
place.
It's like off the beaten paththat most Americans don't know
about.
It's got all these burial tombsand and stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
What was that one called?
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Kill Martin Glenn.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Kill Martin Glenn Okay.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
All right.
Well, we are coming up to ourend of our hour here and I have
our rapid fire questions, unlessyou have any final burning
questions.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
No, just looking at.
Martin Glenn.
That's a really yeah.
That's got lots of um yeah.
Lots to look at with this.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Burial yeah, you can actually get into some of the
burial chambers.
It's pretty, pretty interesting.
Wow, really.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Okay, there's a lot to do, exactly.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
It's really really cool looking All right.
So what's a typical breakfastthat?
Speaker 3 (42:31):
you would have there what's your favorite breakfast?
I would say either what theycall porridge, which would be
oatmeal as long as it's glutenfree 100% gluten free, or like
scrambled eggs.
You know, farm fresh eggs.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
With smoked salmon.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Oh, that sounds like my perfect breakfast, it's good,
and then do you have a favoritedessert you talked about
berries.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
But are there any unique desserts that they have
there?
Gosh, I can't think of adessert they have.
They do really nice scones, butthat's more like what you would
have like with some tea orcoffee.
Yeah, cakes or puddings, they,yeah, you know, um no, but they
have this thing called tablet.
That's like condensed milk andsugar and it's like you'll see
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it, like they sell it everywhere.
It's like a little square andit's just like pure sugar, pure
sugar.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's a square solid.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah, oh okay, and it's called tablet.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
It's like, oh, I need this it's like it's like and
it's like nothing but pure sugaruh, it looks like well from
kind of it looks like it's likesmall little like fudge.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, yeah like fudge , like only it's.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
It's like small, almost bite-sized, correct yeah,
although they have it here indifferent bite-sides.
Yeah, like a sugar cube.
It looks like brown sugar.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
They have really nice ice creams too, because all the
cows there's good milk.
There are some specialty icecreams that you know from
certain companies and dairiesthat are pretty, pretty popular.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
All right, okay, and what's the popular religion up
there?
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I don't know.
I think most people areprobably I think it's probably a
mix A lot of Presbyterians,maybe all yeah, mostly
Christians.
Oh, okay, got it.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
All right, and then what's the money situation there
?
Because they're not in theEuropean Union anymore, but do
they use the euro or somethingelse?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
No, they would always be using the same thing because
they're part of the UnitedKingdom, so it's the British
sterling pound, which theyalways would have been.
Oh, okay, got it.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
And then generally, do you travel like, use
everything on credit card or isthis cash?
Speaker 3 (44:47):
I tell you what you can use your credit card.
A lot in Scotland that it's oneplace that I would say they,
they are definitely.
You can use your credit card oryour debit card and tap, tap,
tap, there you go, Okay.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Very good and there may be a few.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
There may be a few places, but I tell you what,
since COVID it's a lot of use ofcard.
Very easy to use your cardthere.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Is there a lot of fees?
I know when I was traveling inBali and I tapped, tapped you
have.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah, you have to.
That's one thing I always tellmy travel clients is be sure
that you have a credit card thatdoes not have a foreign
transaction fees, correct.
Yeah, I got stuck, but Ilearned it will add up it should
All right Great.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
And then the music.
We already talked about alittle bit bagpipes.
That's pretty common yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
Yeah, bagpipesipes.
And then there's another kindof they.
They have it like.
It's more like under the arm,it's kind of a smaller, it's not
as big um and and the drumskind of thing you'll.
You'll kind of you know the the,the music would be.
You know some of thetraditional music would be kind
of similar to, to what you wouldhear in Ireland.
I mean it's, you know, it's allit's, it's Celtic, so it's,
(46:03):
it's going to be similar.
So you would get, you know, youwould get sort of a fiddle and
maybe an accordion and thatguitars, so you know, a pipe
maybe.
So you'll get a little bit ofeverything.
But but yeah, I mean anythingyou know, like the bagpipe, it's
just, it's just kind of one ofthose sounds that you're like
(46:25):
that's very Scottish.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, and do a lot of places.
When you go out to eat, do theyhave live music or just no, not
really, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
I kind of feel like the music is a little bit harder
to come by, like I feel like inIreland, like the pubs it's a
little bit more popular, likeit's easier to come by.
You will still be able to findit in Scotland, but you'd
probably just have to make sureand seek, seek it out a little
bit more and just kind of seethere's definitely I mean they
definitely have like there aremusic festivals and things like
(46:55):
that and there would be, therewould definitely be pubs where
they would have music and youknow the music still going to
run the gamut they'll still have.
Like I remember being out andyou know you'll hear something
that'll be a little bit more,you know, maybe modern like
acoustic, like you know kind ofindie, folk kind of stuff, maybe
as well too, a little bit ofeverything.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
But yeah, All right.
And then a final question theclosest place to surf?
Speaker 3 (47:25):
I would imagine they're surfing with like like
really thick wetsuits, but yeah,very thick wet wetsuits.
You know, I'm not 100% surewhere the where the surfing is
the best there.
I've seen a little bit aroundSt Andrews, but probably I'm
kind of like wondering.
I'm kind of thinking the westcoast probably is a little bit
better over that way, and Iwould imagine that I'm kind of
also wondering if up like onthat like there's a little town
(47:48):
called Nairn Although I thinkwhen I was up there I saw
somebody on a stand uppaddleboard it wasn't surfy
enough.
I've definitely seen somepeople doing a little bit of
surfing at West Sands and StAndrews when the surf's kind of
been up a little bit, you know,when there's more wind.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
All right, and where can our listeners find you?
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Yeah, w-a-n-d-e-r.
So Wanderyourwaycom, and that'swhere you can find me on
Facebook, instagram, pinterestand, of course, if you are
interested in those small grouptours, you can go to
Wanderyourwayadvent Adventures.
So just add adventures ontherecom and you can find those
as well.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
And of course podcasts.
I was looking at the Dolomites.
I do this kind of like a HIITworkout H-I-I-T.
The gym on the bikes and I bikethrough the Dolomites, and so
that actually is very intriguing.
It looks a lot of fun and Ilove how you very intriguing, it
looks a lot of fun and I lovehow you have it.
You have a lot of detail inthere, which is great, and I
(48:49):
love how you have it, where youcan click on each day and then
it shows you pictures and whatyou're going to do each day, and
it's really well.
There's a map.
You have it very welldocumented, thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Thank you.
Yeah, that's a new endeavor forme, so fingers crossed that
that continues to grow, becausethat's something I've always
wanted to do is just be able toshare some of these of my
favorite places with you knowjust a small handful of like
minded travelers and and havepeople hopefully connect as well
over the love of you know,wherever we are.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Absolutely and just as a glance.
Most of them are they whenyou're hiking and outdoors are
they to visit like art galleriesor like points of interest?
Is that?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
a combination of things.
No, the hiking is mostespecially in the Dolomites.
You're just enjoying thebeautiful mountains and the
Dolomites are special, soabsolutely 100% kind of in there
.
Now there are some.
You know you have some culturalelements kind of built into it.
You know there are.
You know there'll be a coupletowns where you'll be able to go
(49:53):
in and see the beautifulchurches of the area, because
it's a very unique area and Iknow the September tour we're
going to an Abbey.
And then there's also some winegrowing regions kind of nearby
that we'll also visit, visitthose as well and kind of learn
a little bit about the wines ofthe area and the traditions and
stuff.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
So yeah, Nice Sounds fun, I'm sure.
Yeah, we'll love that.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (50:19):
Great to meet you, Lynn.
Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
I love talking to people that are so passionate
about a place.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
I learned so much I really do want to go.
It sounds like a lot of fun,scotland's amazing 2026.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
I'm ready to go back.
I'm ready to go back.
In fact, I probably need tobook a ticket.
Yeah, perfect.
Wonderful Thanks so much have.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
Thanks so much.
Have a great weekend, all right.
Thanks you, ladies too.
Have a great weekend.
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