March 18, 2024 • 46 mins
Facing personal trials with strength and a dash of humor, Chris Whited of Bodysnatcher joins me to discuss his music and much more!
Chris doesn't hold back as we explore the haunting inspirations behind Bodysnatcher's name and dive into the band's roots. Yet, amid this darkness, the light of heartfelt tributes shines through in their latest single, "Dead Rabbit," reminding us of the power of music to heal and honor those we've lost. Our talk on band dynamics and the sheer logistics of touring exposes the underworld of tour management, from the evolution of a merch guy into a tour manager to the intricacies of coordinating merchandise logistics on the road.
As we wrap up, there's a palpable sense of excitement for what's on the horizon for Bodysnatcher. With tours planned out till March of 2025, the anticipation for unannounced projects adds an electric charge to the conversation. If you're a musician seeking to collaborate, Chris's invitation through 1776 Recordings is a call to action. Join us for an episode that's a compelling mix of life lessons, laughter, and the relentless drive of rock, all wrapped up in the candid stories of Chris Whited.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody and welcome to a new episode of Way
of Life.
I'm your host, gus Holland.
Today, I was really fortunateto be able to sit down with
Chris Whited.
He's the drummer for BodySnatcher and the owner of 1776
Recordings.
He also co-hosts the BackstagePodcast, which can be found on
YouTube, and the link will be inthe description below.
I don't want to drag this introout any longer, I just want to
(00:24):
get to the podcast, so, withoutfurther ado, here is the episode
.
How have you been today,basically?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Been good dude.
Okay, sweet, can't complain.
Actually, yeah, I can'tcomplain a lot, but I'm still
trying to be in a good mood.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh I, got you yeah.
Yeah, is it music related stuff, or just like?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
life, no, just life related stuff.
I live in a shitty fuckingcondo right now and it's just a
whole situation of horribleness.
Like we I should be grateful.
Like me and my wife own a house, but we started renting that
house out because we were like,oh we could, since we're getting
income from that house, wecould buy another house.
(01:04):
And that was last June.
So we've been staying in thislittle condo it's a one bathroom
condo since June last year.
Oh shoot, she is a generalmanager for a bar, like a sports
bar restaurant type place, soyou know she doesn't get home a
(01:25):
lot of nights until like 3am orso because the bar is open until
2am every night and she'smanager.
But she while we were recordingour EP that's about to start
coming out soon.
We're in New Jersey and I get aphone call from her and a
dude's axle on the bottom of asemi fell off and she towed with
(01:50):
her car along with like sevenother cars.
Damn, and her job, super coolbought her a car.
They, it's a company car.
So anyways, she towed with hercar.
She's been going through rehaband physical therapy since
October and her work wrapped thecar and our condo will not let
(02:18):
us have a wrapped car with anytype of phone numbers or
business logos on it parkedthere.
So now we just get back.
We just got married February24th and we get back from our
honeymoon and since we've beenback, she has to park her car
(02:39):
two miles away from our house.
So every night at 4am I have togo drive to the grocery store
where she's parking her carunlawfully and pick her up, and
then I also have to drive herback to her car the next day
because we're charging us $100 aday.
Even if they just see the carin the parking lot, it doesn't
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even have to be parked.
If they see it, they'recharging us $100 a day.
Wow, so that's where we're atright now.
So it's just fucking pisses meoff, but whatever, yeah, but
yeah, doing fairly well though,considering.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah Well, congrats on the marriage and the
honeymoon.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, so you've been together a while, or?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, me and Harry have been together since,
actually since the month beforeI did my first tour with Body
Snatcher, so it was like 2018, Ithink Okay, and but we were
friends for like seven yearsbefore that, so oh, okay, yeah.
So yeah, we've been togetherfor six years and we were
(03:45):
friends for like six or sevenyears before that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, Okay, so yeah, well, yeah, sorry about that,
but I mean, yeah, I guess it'slike positive and negative,
because you got the, you knowthe, she got the hook up with
the car from the company.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But yeah, there's some, yeah, some bullshit going
on.
Yeah, there's always some somefucking things.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So when did you get back from your honeymoon?
That had to be like not toolong ago.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, Last week actually, I've been home for
actually, let's say, Thursday.
Yeah, I've been home forexactly a week.
Got home, that's Thursday.
Okay, we did like a.
We did a long cruise and wentto like all the Southern
Caribbean type places like StMartin and St Lucia, Barbados
(04:39):
yeah, it was.
It was like it was like a 10,10 day cruise.
It was a.
We were like 40 years youngerthan every person on the boat.
Yeah, that's cool.
I was like.
I was like how she's?
Like, why are there so many oldpeople?
Because they're all like I'mnot kidding Like most people on
the boat were like walkers.
They're probably, you know, 85to 90 years old.
(05:02):
And I was like who else thatworks a job, can take off 10
days to go on a cruise.
And Jane, in February.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's true, that's um, yeah, you hit,
you hit some waves and you justsee like a bunch of tennis ball,
like Walker's slide.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, oh, it's so funny and the amount of like I
don't know the older generationlike thinks the younger
generation is like so rude.
But I feel like I'm so politeand so are all my friends and
I've never heard so many rudethings be said to people in my
(05:39):
life and just like I don't knowit was it was, it was comical,
it was very funny.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, and I mean that's the um, similar situation
like with the area that that meand my wife well, so we have
two kids and um and I'm about tobe 32, but when they first
started elementary and andeverything, we just like you
know, I just like hustled, I waslike I'm going to, you know,
(06:08):
get get us a house, basically,and it was like perfect timing.
Before you know, all theinterest rates got crazy and
everything yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And the house that we bought are the house that we,
that we're renting out.
We bought it in 2019.
So it was like perfect time,yeah, but now it's like it's in
Florida as impossible.
Where are you from?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Texas like uh, yeah, in between uh Austin and Houston
, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So Texas is pretty good like price wise housing
market right now.
I mean, interest rates arestill fucked, but the prices are
crazy.
Like you get like a 1,100square foot two bedroom, one
bath house here and it's like$400,000.
Oh my God yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Fucking sucks.
We got we lucked out, though,right before COVID hit the house
that we bought.
It's like 1700 square feet,three, three bed with a den, two
bathrooms on like a half acre,and we got it for 205.
Oh, wow, and it was a brand newbuild.
Is that it was for where thefirst people don't live in it?
Yeah, um, we got lucky on that.
(07:14):
And then, but yeah, now, nowit's impossible, sucks.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, but um, we, yeah.
So we we moved to this area,though, and like from the, from
the get go, like when, whetherit was like shopping for
groceries, or I mean like we'reolder now, you know but this was
like seven years ago orwhatever and uh, and I didn't
have a beard and everything butI I still had like quite a bit
(07:39):
of tattoos and stuff and likeall the time, like me and my
wife, we would like grocerystore dropping them off for
school, whatever they're like.
Oh, are you the babysitter orare you the older brother?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Are you like you know all this shit.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And and then, like we would go to the, uh like they'd
have, like a parent teacher ornot, a parent teacher thing, but
like uh, right before schoolstarted they'd have like a thing
where where you could take thetour of the school and meet all
the teachers and everything,like everybody's like 20 to 30
years older than us, like theparents and uh, and they're all
just like looking at us likethat's what's going to happen to
(08:14):
me.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But yeah, I know my brother has.
He has a.
He passed a couple of years,two years ago, but his uh, my
nieces are now they're 20 and 15, but you know, when they were
like in the oldest one was inhigh school and and the other
one was like middle andelementary and stuff, and my
brother has like had both theirnames tattooed across his
(08:39):
eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Like he was like fully covered in tattoos, like
he just looked like a, lookedlike a maniac Nicest person in
the world.
But yeah people.
The way he got looked at washello.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I guess, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry about your brother,
but that is how you know howwe're all, I guess, young, young
and tattooed.
You know we're all received,but, dude, I'm about to be 36.
Really Okay, I'm in 10.
So today's the 14th that we'rerecording this, but, like 10
(09:14):
days from now, I'll be 32.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh damn dude, I'm April 1st.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh, okay, damn that's cool, pretty close.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Happy early birthday, thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, but okay, so just to get into the music
before we get to sidetracked oranything, so for body snatcher.
So just to clarify, like I'mliterally just a fan, I've got
(09:44):
this podcast that you know, andwe do different playlists just
to kind of like provideplaylists to the listeners for
gym purposes, basically yeah,yeah, and so the most I know
about the band and even you islike your name, the name of the
(10:04):
band, the songs I like, stufflike that.
So just to preface it, becauseI'm going to probably ask you
some oh no, I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Dude, ask me anything .
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Some dumbass questions.
But so I know you're thedrummer, are you the?
Is that the only like projectthat you work on?
Do you have solo things outsideof body snatcher or anything?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
like that.
So I've run a recording studioas well and that's actually how
I joined body snatcher was.
I was in a band you know I'm alittle bit older than everybody
else in the band and I was in aband like from like 2006 to 2013
that toured a lot that's likein the same genre that body
snatchers in now and, like youknow, like the deathcore,
(10:54):
hardcore metal genre, and then Istarted recording bands full
time and I recorded the firstrecord that body snatcher did
that they ended up gettingsigned off of and that was like
we recorded that in like 2015 or2016 or something, okay.
(11:15):
And then they the band gotsigned and I was doing like
other projects at that time tolike I did vocals in a band
called Lost Fortune and then Ialso before that, the band that
I was in that was like hadnotoriety was a band called King
(11:35):
Conker and we toured all overthe place and did Europe a
couple of times and stuff likethat.
But yeah, so I recorded thatfirst body snatcher record they
did.
They did like some tours andstuff and the like the tour that
they did, like the albumrelease tour that they did and
(11:56):
2017, I think it was all the,all the members of the band kind
of quit after that, except forthe lead singer.
And so I was like yo play drums,I like, I like the band.
I worked on the record, likeit's, it's the style of music
that I like, like I'll, I'llstart touring again.
(12:19):
And I was like I was 29 at thetime.
I was about to be 30.
And I was like yo, if I do this, I'm fucking like, not fucking
the shit up and I'm going fullforce.
You know what I mean.
And so, yeah, then we everyonethat's in the band now joined
the band.
When I joined the band, so well, me and the singer found our
(12:39):
bass player and which he wasalso in another, like bigger
deathcore band in like the 2010era that I had toured with in
the past, and so we got him.
And then we got one of my goodfriends that lives here in
Florida, kyle Carter, to playguitar, and it's been the full
(13:00):
or the since then.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Okay, so if you, if you don't mind me asking, and if
you don't want to answer,that's, that's fine too.
But how?
Why did most everybody exceptthe singer quit back in 2017?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It was just I mean mainly just when you go on a
really long tour, a lot ofpeople don't realize how hard it
is.
You know, it's like when you'regone for six weeks and at, you
know, and especially when you'rea new band and you're not
making any money, you're you'rebarely making enough money to
get gas or food or any of thatstuff it's like you definitely
(13:38):
it gets to your head.
You know it is very, very, veryhard to be successful in this
world, you know.
So I think that's that's mostlikely what it was.
Yeah, just, and we're stillfriends, we're still friends
with with a lot of those guys.
Actually, the the good, the oldguitar player he is, he's
(14:00):
playing full time.
He's actually placed bass in aband called spite now.
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, so it'sanother band yeah, the, we're
doing a couple tours with them.
They're our next two tours arewith them, so that's cool.
And he lives in Florida, we'realso friends with him and stuff,
so that's cool, okay, sweet.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So as far as the name body snatcher for the band is,
how did that come about?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
like that was a when, when they first started the
band, they they just wanted tobe, like you know, a breakdown
Mosh band.
They weren't planning on liketaking it super far.
There's a, so I wanted to playsome local shows and be a heavy
(14:47):
band.
But, yeah, they wanted it.
They wanted to like name theband after a serial killer, just
just because you know what Imean, just like you know
everyone's 1718 at the time andthey're, you know, thought it
was cool.
And the the guy Ed Gein, his,his nickname was the body
snatcher.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But Ed.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Gein was Ed Gein's already, was already a band.
So when they, when they saw thename body snatcher, they're
like, oh, that's cool, you know,I mean.
It doesn't even have to like,like mean the serial killer.
They just ended up finding thatname by accident by looking at
serial killers.
You know I got you yeah, okay,yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I had just like context clues.
I had figured, you know,because there's like the term
like, oh, catch a body orwhatever, yeah, yeah.
So I was like, okay, there'sprobably something like that,
you know so.
But, okay, sweet, so correct meif I'm wrong, but y'all
released your your last albumlike mid 2022.
(15:49):
And then you've got you justhad a single like at the end of
February right Of this year, orI mean of last year 2023.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, dead rabbit.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so, yeah and then.
So I was going to ask you aboutdropping new music and
everything, but you hadmentioned already that you all
have EP coming out.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, we actually just announced today when the
the first singles coming out, sothe first singles drop in on
the 26th of this month.
Oh shit, okay, that's cool.
Yeah, so really soon, coupleweeks, okay, sweet yeah.
Yeah, this episode dead rabbitis not, is not part of it.
So dead rabbit is just like.
That was my brother's nicknameand I wrote that song, like you
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know, right after he passed, andwe're just like fuck it, let's
just put out a single song, youknow what I mean.
Just like, just for, just forsomething, you know.
And then, right after wereleased that song, a couple
months later, my sister diedfrom the same thing, and then,
oh shit, yeah, so sorry, so,thank you, it's, it's.
You know, life, life definitelyhappens.
(17:02):
But it happens, you know, butfuck the pharmaceutical industry
.
That's all.
That's all I have to say.
Yeah, yeah, because they bothoverdosed on fentanyl.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Okay that's what I was.
I was figuring something likethat.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Or my brother my brother's was kind of like a he.
He had MS, so he got diagnosedwith multiple sclerosis when he
was 16 is like one of theyoungest in the country at the
time and that's a disease thatdoesn't go away.
You know what I mean.
It just it gets progressivelyworse over your lifetime and by
(17:40):
the time he was 18, his doctorshad him on oxy 120s, which if I
took that it would kill me, youknow.
Yeah, so he was, you know, madeinto a drug addict from the
pharmaceutical industry, youknow.
So I mean, his body was relianton it and you know he
(18:01):
definitely started to abuse itafter years and, you know, would
run out and would find his owndrugs because he couldn't get a
script filled and stuff likethat, you know, and stuff.
You know it sucks.
But my sister was she actually.
She got involved with somereally fucked up people and you
know she became a heroin addictand got clean for a while, got
(18:25):
clean, she had a kid, got gotclean for three years and then,
yeah, had a slip up and thatslip up was the last, the last
thing, you know.
So now my mom, my brother, hadtwo kids, my sister was single,
and so my mom's got her threeyear old now.
So, yeah, it's been a crazypast two years, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I understand.
I'm sorry about that.
I'd come from a fan.
I've never said this out loudso I don't know how to word it
but I come from a family thatthere's a lot of drug and
alcohol abuse and luckily, a lotof them I'd say like 90% or
(19:10):
something you know off the topof my head have recovered or in
some sort of program orsomething like that.
But yeah, that's horrible, I'msorry.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, thank you, it's okay.
Yeah, I think addiction is a.
It's a crazy thing because somepeople are just, some people
don't, their brain doesn't getaddicted to things you know what
I mean Like.
And then some people, it's likedrugs affect them in a way that
they like me, I would neverunderstand it.
You know what I mean.
Like I don't know, I don't knowhow I got skipped with it, but
(19:41):
like I mean I've done.
I mean I don't really care,I've done pretty much every drug
that you could think of.
You know, what I mean.
At some point in time I'vetried it.
You know what I mean, but I'venever woken up the next day and
been like, oh, I need to do awhole bunch of that again.
You know what I mean.
Like I've never had like a weakbender fucking doing something
(20:05):
fucked up.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like some people, it'slike they try something once and
they're just like I need thatall the time, you know, but like
I don't know, my brain justdoesn't comprehend it.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm the same way Like and it maybe.
Maybe it's because I was raisedaround so many people that like
examples of what not to do,type thing.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, yeah, I could probably attest to that as well,
because you know I have had Imean almost every childhood
friend that I've had is gonebecause of because of opiates
you know what I mean LikeOxycontin, percocet and Bednell.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's horrible.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, I'm glad you're not Especially Florida.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Florida.
It's crazy.
Yeah, florida is from what I've.
I mean, I've only been a coupleof times with.
I've known people from Floridaand stuff like that.
I've always heard that it'spretty heavy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, yeah, just the like when Oxycontin started
getting prescribed to people,like in the 2000s, it was like
that was all you heard about.
It was fucking crazy.
Yeah, but yeah.
So I think that's probably ahuge reason why I've never fell
down that path, because I always, like, saw the way people
started acting and I was like Ido not want anything to do with
(21:28):
that.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's.
That's crazy.
Well, I'm glad you're not.
But, back to back to musicbeing released.
I mean, I don't, I don't care.
Like I said, it's it'sconversational and like
obviously I don't want to upsetyou, but I'm down to talk to
about whatever you know.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, that's, it doesn't upset me, it's all stuff
that I would I would preferactually talking about, just to
you know, have people hear, hearthat stuff, you know, yeah, but
yeah, we're about to release anew song in a couple of weeks
and stuff is going to startstart rolling out by the by the
(22:08):
month, throughout this wholeyear, and we got a lot of, a lot
of cool stuff.
Like we have tour that we leave, a Europe tour that we leave
for on April 3rd and then, andthen we come home from the April
tour and five days after we gethome we do six weeks US tour
(22:34):
with spite and a band calledthrown and a band called Psycho
frame, been called sell sales,actually from Texas, and then a
band called noses.
So thrown is from Europe andnoses is from Japan, and so,
(22:58):
yeah, so should be, should be acool tour.
That's that, that's all in theStates in May and June.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, no, that sounds sick.
I've I actually.
I listened to thrown as well,so that's, that's awesome, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
There.
There are another band that'son like a lot of like the
extreme metal workout play listsand stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, for sure, yeah, so as far as.
So you are going to do thattour, you said.
You said April and May, is thatright?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yep, so April's Europe, and then May June is the
States.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay, okay, sweet have y'all.
Is that y'all's first timedoing Europe, or?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
have y'all.
No that'll.
This'll be our third time.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh damn, okay, Sweet yeah, okay, do you have?
You have a favorite place overthere, like not necessarily to
tour, but like spot.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I, I really like, I like the UK a lot.
Uk is fucking really sick.
It's all really cool.
Last time we were over there wehad a day off in Paris and we
like walked like the catacombsand stuff like that.
Oh, yeah.
That shit was fucking awesome,yeah.
(24:17):
But yeah, it's all really coolover there.
People are cool, it's just.
It's just great.
Uk is just I don't know.
It's really, it's really dopeand they're.
They have a ton of Indian foodthere and I love Indian food, so
yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, that's how.
So let's see Basically like aright around Thanksgiving of
last year, 2023.
We, like, as a family, went toScotland.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Oh, awesome, yeah, and that was all I love Glasgow,
glasgow is fucking sick Dude.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
that's the one place we didn't go and everybody was
like you should have went, youknow it's so like just there's
so much shit happening.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
It's so awesome yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, so we we stayed in Edinburgh and then we like
traveled all like we did thehigh, like went to the Highlands
, we went to Loch Ness and likeI don't even know like 20
different cities.
We were there for like twoweeks and so.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Damn, that's so awesome.
Yeah, that's the one thing.
That's like you know you go ontour and you see all these
places, but you don't have timeto like really see the places.
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, when we're placeswe get, we get there at noon, we
load in, we sound check doorsopen, we play the show and then
(25:38):
we leave.
You know what I mean.
Like we never like have a dayoff to really see much.
Yeah, like like we're overthere for three weeks coming up
and we have two days off forlike during the whole time.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, Well, that's not.
Yeah, that that sucks.
I've I listened to a bunch ofpodcasts and a lot of them are
like comedians and you know theydo work as well and they say
the same same thing.
That it sucks.
Like you go all over the worldand then you're like, well, I
had like a few days off here andthere or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, you go all over the world but you don't
get to really experience it.
I mean, you do, but it's justin a different form than what
most people are expecting tohear.
You know, right.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, yeah.
So as far, so sorry I might hitmy head still on the addiction
thing and everything.
So it kind of bothered me alittle bit.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
As far as.
So, once y'all are done withthe tour, do y'all have like,
are y'all planned and haveanything planned further out as
far?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
as oh yeah, yeah, we have our entire like tours,
music coming out, stuff likethat.
Like we are, we are acompletely booked solid until
March of 2025.
Oh shit, okay, that's just, butit's all stuff that it's not
(27:07):
announced yet.
That you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Like.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I can't say who it's with or what it is.
But yeah, we are booked solidtill March next year.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, that's sick.
So congrats on that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's fucking so dope.
Yeah, I'm.
There's a couple of things thatI'm.
I just can't wait for it tohappen, just so I can be like yo
, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay, well, I'll definitely keep an eye out as
well as everybody else.
But so booked, so I mean, asfar as so Body Snatcher
obviously is doing very well, isthat is, I guess, like health
of the band as a whole Would yousay that that's doing pretty
(27:54):
well as well, like everybody'sgetting along.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, oh yeah, definitely, the group that we
have, like we've been this sameunit for, you know, for six
years and like that's that's allthe way down to like our tour
manager has been with us thatlong, okay, and he also is.
(28:17):
He also is our merch manager,like for while we're on the road
, and then our sound guy he goeson every tour with us and he's
like they're both part of theband.
So there's there's six of usand six of us that are always on
tour together for every singletour, same six people.
(28:40):
And yeah, we all get alongextremely well.
And it's like, you know, nomatter what, whenever you live
with somebody and you knowliving with somebody in a house
is one thing, living withsomebody in a van or a bus is a
completely different thing.
You know what I mean.
So I mean I'm not going to saythat there's never arguments,
(29:02):
but if there is an argument, itis so minor that I mean whenever
I see how other bands act, I'mlike, holy shit, I fucking love
our band dude, but yeah, we allget along so well.
If there is any type ofdisagreement, it's always so
small and everybody is very goodat at just talk, talking you
(29:25):
know what I mean Like we're allvery, very level headed and
we're all we're all really goodat just having conversations
with each other to resolvewhatever it was.
Which I mean I would say, maybewe have a conversation that has
to resolve an issue once to twotimes a year maybe.
So you know what I mean.
(29:46):
So it's very, very rare.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, so that's, that's good.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, and we got.
We have a great manager who is,like the band's manager, a
great booking agent, and they'vebeen with us same amount of
time.
It's just like we have.
We have a really good, reallygood team.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, no, that's, that's sick.
And speaking of merch, y'all'svinyls are sick, by the way,
like just the like.
I don't know, I've always somepeople just like the black
vinyls or whatever, but likey'all have all the like mixed
colors and shit and yeah,different color yeah that's.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I know that there's a stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The new one that we, that we just that we just
announced is just straight black.
But there's going to be morelater on down the road I can't
say when, but they're all goingto have crazy colors and shit.
Okay, sweet.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, yeah, I was looking at the, the newest one,
or you know, the, the album thebleed abide, bleed, yes, yes,
yes and and yeah.
What I saw was like it was kindof like maroon and white or
whatever kind of.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, like maroon and like a bone color kind of yes,
yeah, yeah.
There's one that came out withthat one that's I think it was
called like the lemonade variantor something, but it was like a
yellow and like sky bluelooking one and it looked so
sick.
And a lot of those we don't.
(31:08):
We don't have a lot of those.
We don't even see them inperson.
You know what I mean?
It's like all stuff that's likeon the online store that's not
ran by us.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You know, yeah, it's just like shipped straight out
and stuff yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
And it's like we there was one.
We were playing a show inPittsburgh and there was a
record store connected to it andwe went down in there and they
had that one.
We all bought our own.
Really, even though it's ourown, babe, we all bought it
because we're like, damn, thatone looks so sick.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, no, that's that's sick, that's that's kind
of how.
So just for E, because, like Idon't do this full time,
obviously, but I have like a joband like a side job basically
besides this.
So it's for ease of of merchand everything, I just have it
(31:54):
like similar to that, like kindof like third party source and
it just shipped straight outfrom there.
So then I was like man, I waslike before you know, I was like
I got to buy like at least oneof everything, just to like get
samples and have my own shit.
Like like you know, like I'vegot for a little bit.
I had fans that were like dude,this, you know, the shirts are
(32:14):
sick and blah, blah, blah.
Whatever.
I'm like cool, I don't, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You know, like I would know.
You know people, people saidlike we'll be like oh, you guys,
you guys sent me a smallinstead of a large.
I'm like no, we didn't yeah.
We, you know, we're like youknow, we'll see people wearing
stuff at shows and we're likedamn, I never seen that one.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, they're like can you sign my shirt?
And then you're like hold on,let me look at it first yeah, it
happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, damn that one came out so sick.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, no, that's cool .
So are you?
Are y'all all based out ofFlorida?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I mean, I'm assuming so, since y'all yeah, our bass
player was in New Jersey, okay,and for like the first four
years he was in the band.
He just moved down to Florida,like a year and a half ago and
yeah, so now everybody lives inFlorida, but we're all really
far away from each other andFlorida, like me and my guitar
(33:14):
player, are like an hour to anhour and a half away, and then
our bass player and our singerlive on the other coast, so they
are like three hours away.
Okay, okay, yeah, so anytimethat we like we don't practice,
like if we're going on tour,we'll meet up the day before and
then we'll practice the daybefore for a day and then we go
(33:36):
on tour.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's, that's crazy.
And that's some of the bandsI've talked to.
They're like I mean that's moreoften the case than not, at
least from my experience is thatlike, even if they're in the
same state, they're kind of likehaving to meet up and do things
to get work, you know, butthat's this.
Like Florida I mean there'sseveral states like that, but
(34:00):
like Florida and Texas, I meanpeople don't really get that.
That like if you overlap, likeTexas on top of the UK, it's
like all of the UK, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, it takes me if I want to get out
of Florida, just to get intoGeorgia.
It's like a seven and a halfhour drive.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like that's how, like from, from where I am like, if
I want to go to New Orleans,louisiana, it's like the state
over, right, yeah, it's likenine or 10, it's nine hours.
If you're like hauling ass, youknow, yeah, but it's like the
same.
Like you got to El Paso, Ithink.
It's like nine hours for me too.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
So it's like, yeah, dude, that's always the worst
drive is like because, whateverwe'll always play, like all the
tours, we'll hit, like you know,houston, dallas, fort Worth,
san Antonio, and then you gofrom San Antonio to Albuquerque.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, and that's like a 13 hour drive.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, dude, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah Well, in Albuquerque he's like all the
way up in the corner of NewMexico.
So it's, you're almost, it'slike you're going through like
four or almost five.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Normally if we do an Albuquerque, sometimes we'll go
up to Oklahoma City and thenacross, or, or or play Dallas
and then across, or.
A lot of times it'll be SanAntonio to Phoenix.
So you're like kind of justdriving the the, the border you
know like once you're once youhit El Paso.
(35:37):
You're kind of just on theborder till you hit Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah.
So so right now, as far as liketravel goes, are y'all, are you
all, going to go to the hotel?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Like, are y'all in a van, or do y'all have like a
tour bus or We've been in a vanlike a Chevy Express that we
kind of had built out that we Imean we built it out ourselves
but everybody has their own spot.
Nobody goes in each other spots, even when you know what I mean
.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
So it's like wherever you sleep like.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's your spot, you know.
But so we have like bunks builtin the back, so two sleep
underneath, two sleep on top,and then there's two bench seats
, so one sleeps in each benchseat and then whoever's driving
or wants to ride up front can.
But this year will be our firstyear on buses the entire year.
(36:25):
So Europe, we're on a bus, andthen we come back to the States.
We're on a.
We're on like a.
There's a company calledBandwagon in the United States
and it's like a.
It's like a.
It's a company madespecifically for bands and
there's like nine bunks.
Everybody has like their own ACcontrol.
It's like a lounge area, youknow.
(36:47):
So we'll have a microwave and arefrigerator and a coffee maker
so we can actually keep food.
That's not horrible.
And there's a shower, so, andwe don't have to drive.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
So we'll have a driver.
So yeah, I didn't even that's.
That's the worst part, in myopinion, is the driving, but
yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
People don't.
People don't understand.
Like you know, some people arelike oh, I wish I could go to
the show, but it's two hoursaway.
And I'm like, dude, like we getto venues every day at noon and
we don't leave until 1am andthen we have a six hour drive
plus almost every single night.
So it's either you know, youdon't have enough time to sleep.
(37:31):
You know what I mean you don'thave enough time to get a full
night's sleep.
No, you're just don't.
Yeah, and that's, you know, sixweeks straight.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, I mean it's basically like, because I mean
driving to me, I mean it's, it'swork as well.
You know what I mean.
So like somebody's basicallyworking, like 24 seven.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
If you're, and that's me.
I drive 24 seven because I havecrazy fucking anxiety when
other people drive, so I wouldjust rather drive.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It sucks, but you're the driver.
Yeah, okay, I'm really hypedfor this year to not have to
drive for once Okay, yeah, no,that'd be, that'd be cool, get
some, there's some beauty rest.
Yeah, yeah, dude, I can't.
So I get like a car sickness,like if I'm in the back, so I'm
like I'll.
Either I either like drive orI'll ride shotgun and we can
(38:23):
swap, or whatever you know, butI'll just yeah, it's horrible.
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I've never gotten car sickness, but that would
fucking suck.
Hey, you would hate being ontour.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, dude, well it's , it's really and it's like
random, like like nine times outof 10, I won't have it, you
know, but you can see on boats.
Um no, no, but I do still take,just as a precaution.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I mean, or whatever, I mean, or whatever, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So, um, because like the same with airplanes, I've
like I've been on airplanes alot, but then there's like one
time where I got like a reallysick, so I was just like I'm
just going to do dramming everytime now.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
So yeah, when I was, when I was like really young, I
remember I threw up on anairplane like really, really bad
ones and I had to use the bag.
I think it was like eight yearsold or something yeah, and then
yeah and then, uh, I also likeuse.
I would throw up on boats whenI was a kid, but now it's like I
don't ever.
That never happens to meanymore.
It's like flying or or on boats.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, I guess that.
Yeah, but it's about the samefor me, because as a kid it was
like every time and then, uh,now it's probably like one out
of 10 times or something likethat.
But like my dad would just belike, look, look out the?
Uh, look out the windshield.
Quit looking out this, you know, cause you'd be like look at
the trees and you get sick, yeah, but anyways, um, yeah, so, as
(39:51):
far as, do you all do any typeof like prep?
Like, if you're going on like alike the upcoming tour you said
it's six weeks, is there?
I mean, besides music practice,obviously, is there anything
special that y'all have to do tolike prep for that long of a?
You know?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
um, I mean, yeah, definitely, like we've all been
doing it so long now that it'skind of just it doesn't feel
like prep really, and we allkind of just know what we need
and and and get it done.
But merch is a big thing Like.
So you know you have topre-plan out.
You know getting merch designsmade takes a while, you know.
(40:33):
So you have to be like oh, wehave a tour, you know that's in,
whatever it may.
So, and in November you betterbe thinking about your merch
designs and talking to theartists about gay.
So you gotta give yourself acouple of months, a lot of times
, to make sure you have thedesigns in time, make sure you
know how many of each shirtyou're wanting to order, make
(40:57):
sure the prank company knowswhere to ship those orders.
Cause, like a lot of bands, likeyou know, you, you, you sell a
lot.
If, if you're, if you'replaying in front of a good
amount of people, you're sellinga lot of merch, so you can't
carry all of you, can't carryenough merch for the whole tour
in your trailer.
(41:17):
You just can't.
Yeah, so, so we'll normally getlike a shipment every week.
So we'll normally get, you know, like like 20 boxes or
something every week.
And so you got to plan wherethey're going to ship the boxes
at.
You know like what UPS storesclose to what venues and which
ones like are open on the daysyou're going to be there, and
(41:40):
stuff like that.
So all all that is pretty.
You know stuff that it's easyto forget about but not, and
also very stressful to figureout.
But the guy that, the guy thatdoes our merch is pretty good
with it all and he just kind ofkeeps us posted and our tour
manager also handles a lot ofthat stuff for us now.
(42:00):
So he's kind of in contact withwith the merch guy and getting
all the tracking numbers sortedout and stuff like that.
And then you also have toadvance the shows that you're
going to play.
So our tour manager also doesthat.
So if you have, you know, a 30day tour before that tour starts
(42:24):
, you know in like the two tothree weeks before it starts,
you he will.
He has to hit up the promoterfor every single show.
So it's a different promoterevery day because it's a
different state every day.
So he has to hit thosepromoters up and get all the
info that we need for the day ofthe show and just basically you
(42:44):
know.
They tell him where the parkingis, you know what Wi-Fi is, if
there's showers, if there'slaundry, what time everybody's
supposed to be there or whattime sound checks are, how the
how the show's going to run thatday, and stuff like that.
But you have to do that forevery single day of the tour and
then you have to put it into anapp so that every band member
can see it and be prepared bythe day.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah, that's it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
It's a 24 hour a day job while you're on the road.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, yeah, and I guess that that's why you have
tour managers and merch guys andeverything you know like too
much?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, cause we, we used to.
You know a lot of bands do itthemselves.
You know, like I used to do itmyself.
And then our tour manager, hecame on tour with us to learn
how to do merch.
So we all kind of showed himhow to do merch and like you
know what the merch etiquette isand like how you should go
about like organizing things inthe venue.
(43:41):
Like don't bring in more thanthree boxes Even if you're going
to sell more than that.
Just if you sell it all, go tothe trailer and bring more in.
You know what I mean, just soyou're not making clutter
everywhere.
You know little things likethat.
And he picked it up so fast andwas like the best merch guy.
And then he said he wanted tolearn how to tour, manage and
advance all the shows.
So we taught him that.
(44:01):
And now now we pay him, like wepay him a weekly rate and we
pay him a hundred percent of allthe tips, like that's card tips
and cash tips, and he fuckingbanks like he makes a very fuck
ton of money.
It's a lot, it's awesome, it'sfucking sick, yeah, but um, but
(44:25):
I mean he does, he does a ton ofwork.
He does a ton, you know, andit's like it, it.
It relieves so much stress offof all of us.
It's, it's I would.
I would hate to do a tourwithout him.
It would fuck, fucking, suck.
No, that's, that's cool, that'sgood.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
You have like a good, a good team to work with.
Yeah, besides the band, youknow, yeah, so I pretty much ran
out of questions.
I just want to thank you somuch for doing the podcast and I
know you're coming out withgreat ideas.
What new music is there?
Anything you want to plug thatyou're like allowed to plug
(45:07):
right now, like as far as theirshows, socials go, or anything?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Um, I mean, yeah, just uh, body snatcher FL on
everything.
Um, if you're in a band andneed something recorded or mixed
, hit me up.
My website is 1776recordingscom.
I've done every body snatcherrecord.
I've done most every tradersrecord.
(45:30):
I've worked with a bunch of abunch of heavy bands in the
genre.
Um, and then, yeah, we have anew song coming out on March
26th and a bunch more awesomestuff coming out after that.
We'll be on tour in Europe inApril and be on tour in the
States and May and June.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Okay, sweet, well, um , once again, thank you so much,
and of course, dude.
Yeah, man, I'm glad to thankyou, man.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, I'm from, but Bye.
Hey everybody and welcome to a new episode of Way
of Life.
I'm your host, gus Holland.
Today, I was really fortunateto be able to sit down with
Chris Whited.
He's the drummer for BodySnatcher and the owner of 1776
Recordings.
He also co-hosts the BackstagePodcast, which can be found on
YouTube, and the link will be inthe description below.
I don't want to drag this introout any longer, I just want to
(00:24):
get to the podcast, so, withoutfurther ado, here is the episode
.
How have you been today,basically?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Been good dude.
Okay, sweet, can't complain.
Actually, yeah, I can'tcomplain a lot, but I'm still
trying to be in a good mood.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh I, got you yeah.
Yeah, is it music related stuff, or just like?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
life, no, just life related stuff.
I live in a shitty fuckingcondo right now and it's just a
whole situation of horribleness.
Like we I should be grateful.
Like me and my wife own a house, but we started renting that
house out because we were like,oh we could, since we're getting
income from that house, wecould buy another house.
(01:04):
And that was last June.
So we've been staying in thislittle condo it's a one bathroom
condo since June last year.
Oh shoot, she is a generalmanager for a bar, like a sports
bar restaurant type place, soyou know she doesn't get home a
(01:25):
lot of nights until like 3am orso because the bar is open until
2am every night and she'smanager.
But she while we were recordingour EP that's about to start
coming out soon.
We're in New Jersey and I get aphone call from her and a
dude's axle on the bottom of asemi fell off and she towed with
(01:50):
her car along with like sevenother cars.
Damn, and her job, super coolbought her a car.
They, it's a company car.
So anyways, she towed with hercar.
She's been going through rehaband physical therapy since
October and her work wrapped thecar and our condo will not let
(02:18):
us have a wrapped car with anytype of phone numbers or
business logos on it parkedthere.
So now we just get back.
We just got married February24th and we get back from our
honeymoon and since we've beenback, she has to park her car
(02:39):
two miles away from our house.
So every night at 4am I have togo drive to the grocery store
where she's parking her carunlawfully and pick her up, and
then I also have to drive herback to her car the next day
because we're charging us $100 aday.
Even if they just see the carin the parking lot, it doesn't
(03:00):
even have to be parked.
If they see it, they'recharging us $100 a day.
Wow, so that's where we're atright now.
So it's just fucking pisses meoff, but whatever, yeah, but
yeah, doing fairly well though,considering.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah Well, congrats on the marriage and the
honeymoon.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, so you've been together a while, or?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, me and Harry have been together since,
actually since the month beforeI did my first tour with Body
Snatcher, so it was like 2018, Ithink Okay, and but we were
friends for like seven yearsbefore that, so oh, okay, yeah.
So yeah, we've been togetherfor six years and we were
(03:45):
friends for like six or sevenyears before that.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, Okay, so yeah, well, yeah, sorry about that,
but I mean, yeah, I guess it'slike positive and negative,
because you got the, you knowthe, she got the hook up with
the car from the company.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But yeah, there's some, yeah, some bullshit going
on.
Yeah, there's always some somefucking things.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
So when did you get back from your honeymoon?
That had to be like not toolong ago.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, Last week actually, I've been home for
actually, let's say, Thursday.
Yeah, I've been home forexactly a week.
Got home, that's Thursday.
Okay, we did like a.
We did a long cruise and wentto like all the Southern
Caribbean type places like StMartin and St Lucia, Barbados
(04:39):
yeah, it was.
It was like it was like a 10,10 day cruise.
It was a.
We were like 40 years youngerthan every person on the boat.
Yeah, that's cool.
I was like.
I was like how she's?
Like, why are there so many oldpeople?
Because they're all like I'mnot kidding Like most people on
the boat were like walkers.
They're probably, you know, 85to 90 years old.
(05:02):
And I was like who else thatworks a job, can take off 10
days to go on a cruise.
And Jane, in February.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's true, that's um, yeah, you hit,
you hit some waves and you justsee like a bunch of tennis ball,
like Walker's slide.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, oh, it's so funny and the amount of like I
don't know the older generationlike thinks the younger
generation is like so rude.
But I feel like I'm so politeand so are all my friends and
I've never heard so many rudethings be said to people in my
(05:39):
life and just like I don't knowit was it was, it was comical,
it was very funny.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, and I mean that's the um, similar situation
like with the area that that meand my wife well, so we have
two kids and um and I'm about tobe 32, but when they first
started elementary and andeverything, we just like you
know, I just like hustled, I waslike I'm going to, you know,
(06:08):
get get us a house, basically,and it was like perfect timing.
Before you know, all theinterest rates got crazy and
everything yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And the house that we bought are the house that we,
that we're renting out.
We bought it in 2019.
So it was like perfect time,yeah, but now it's like it's in
Florida as impossible.
Where are you from?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Texas like uh, yeah, in between uh Austin and Houston
, okay.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So Texas is pretty good like price wise housing
market right now.
I mean, interest rates arestill fucked, but the prices are
crazy.
Like you get like a 1,100square foot two bedroom, one
bath house here and it's like$400,000.
Oh my God yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Fucking sucks.
We got we lucked out, though,right before COVID hit the house
that we bought.
It's like 1700 square feet,three, three bed with a den, two
bathrooms on like a half acre,and we got it for 205.
Oh, wow, and it was a brand newbuild.
Is that it was for where thefirst people don't live in it?
Yeah, um, we got lucky on that.
(07:14):
And then, but yeah, now, nowit's impossible, sucks.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, yeah, no, but um, we, yeah.
So we we moved to this area,though, and like from the, from
the get go, like when, whetherit was like shopping for
groceries, or I mean like we'reolder now, you know but this was
like seven years ago orwhatever and uh, and I didn't
have a beard and everything butI I still had like quite a bit
(07:39):
of tattoos and stuff and likeall the time, like me and my
wife, we would like grocerystore dropping them off for
school, whatever they're like.
Oh, are you the babysitter orare you the older brother?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Are you like you know all this shit.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
And and then, like we would go to the, uh like they'd
have, like a parent teacher ornot, a parent teacher thing, but
like uh, right before schoolstarted they'd have like a thing
where where you could take thetour of the school and meet all
the teachers and everything,like everybody's like 20 to 30
years older than us, like theparents and uh, and they're all
just like looking at us likethat's what's going to happen to
(08:14):
me.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But yeah, I know my brother has.
He has a.
He passed a couple of years,two years ago, but his uh, my
nieces are now they're 20 and 15, but you know, when they were
like in the oldest one was inhigh school and and the other
one was like middle andelementary and stuff, and my
brother has like had both theirnames tattooed across his
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eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Like he was like fully covered in tattoos, like
he just looked like a, lookedlike a maniac Nicest person in
the world.
But yeah people.
The way he got looked at washello.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
I guess, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry about your brother,
but that is how you know howwe're all, I guess, young, young
and tattooed.
You know we're all received,but, dude, I'm about to be 36.
Really Okay, I'm in 10.
So today's the 14th that we'rerecording this, but, like 10
(09:14):
days from now, I'll be 32.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh damn dude, I'm April 1st.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh, okay, damn that's cool, pretty close.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Happy early birthday, thank you.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah, but okay, so just to get into the music
before we get to sidetracked oranything, so for body snatcher.
So just to clarify, like I'mliterally just a fan, I've got
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this podcast that you know, andwe do different playlists just
to kind of like provideplaylists to the listeners for
gym purposes, basically yeah,yeah, and so the most I know
about the band and even you islike your name, the name of the
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band, the songs I like, stufflike that.
So just to preface it, becauseI'm going to probably ask you
some oh no, I'm all for it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Dude, ask me anything .
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Some dumbass questions.
But so I know you're thedrummer, are you the?
Is that the only like projectthat you work on?
Do you have solo things outsideof body snatcher or anything?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
like that.
So I've run a recording studioas well and that's actually how
I joined body snatcher was.
I was in a band you know I'm alittle bit older than everybody
else in the band and I was in aband like from like 2006 to 2013
that toured a lot that's likein the same genre that body
snatchers in now and, like youknow, like the deathcore,
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hardcore metal genre, and then Istarted recording bands full
time and I recorded the firstrecord that body snatcher did
that they ended up gettingsigned off of and that was like
we recorded that in like 2015 or2016 or something, okay.
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And then they the band gotsigned and I was doing like
other projects at that time tolike I did vocals in a band
called Lost Fortune and then Ialso before that, the band that
I was in that was like hadnotoriety was a band called King
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Conker and we toured all overthe place and did Europe a
couple of times and stuff likethat.
But yeah, so I recorded thatfirst body snatcher record they
did.
They did like some tours andstuff and the like the tour that
they did, like the albumrelease tour that they did and
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2017, I think it was all the,all the members of the band kind
of quit after that, except forthe lead singer.
And so I was like yo play drums,I like, I like the band.
I worked on the record, likeit's, it's the style of music
that I like, like I'll, I'llstart touring again.
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And I was like I was 29 at thetime.
I was about to be 30.
And I was like yo, if I do this, I'm fucking like, not fucking
the shit up and I'm going fullforce.
You know what I mean.
And so, yeah, then we everyonethat's in the band now joined
the band.
When I joined the band, so well, me and the singer found our
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bass player and which he wasalso in another, like bigger
deathcore band in like the 2010era that I had toured with in
the past, and so we got him.
And then we got one of my goodfriends that lives here in
Florida, kyle Carter, to playguitar, and it's been the full
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or the since then.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Okay, so if you, if you don't mind me asking, and if
you don't want to answer,that's, that's fine too.
But how?
Why did most everybody exceptthe singer quit back in 2017?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
It was just I mean mainly just when you go on a
really long tour, a lot ofpeople don't realize how hard it
is.
You know, it's like when you'regone for six weeks and at, you
know, and especially when you'rea new band and you're not
making any money, you're you'rebarely making enough money to
get gas or food or any of thatstuff it's like you definitely
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it gets to your head.
You know it is very, very, veryhard to be successful in this
world, you know.
So I think that's that's mostlikely what it was.
Yeah, just, and we're stillfriends, we're still friends
with with a lot of those guys.
Actually, the the good, the oldguitar player he is, he's
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playing full time.
He's actually placed bass in aband called spite now.
Oh, okay, okay, yeah, so it'sanother band yeah, the, we're
doing a couple tours with them.
They're our next two tours arewith them, so that's cool.
And he lives in Florida, we'realso friends with him and stuff,
so that's cool, okay, sweet.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So as far as the name body snatcher for the band is,
how did that come about?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
like that was a when, when they first started the
band, they they just wanted tobe, like you know, a breakdown
Mosh band.
They weren't planning on liketaking it super far.
There's a, so I wanted to playsome local shows and be a heavy
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band.
But, yeah, they wanted it.
They wanted to like name theband after a serial killer, just
just because you know what Imean, just like you know
everyone's 1718 at the time andthey're, you know, thought it
was cool.
And the the guy Ed Gein, his,his nickname was the body
snatcher.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
But Ed.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Gein was Ed Gein's already, was already a band.
So when they, when they saw thename body snatcher, they're
like, oh, that's cool, you know,I mean.
It doesn't even have to like,like mean the serial killer.
They just ended up finding thatname by accident by looking at
serial killers.
You know I got you yeah, okay,yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I had just like context clues.
I had figured, you know,because there's like the term
like, oh, catch a body orwhatever, yeah, yeah.
So I was like, okay, there'sprobably something like that,
you know so.
But, okay, sweet, so correct meif I'm wrong, but y'all
released your your last albumlike mid 2022.
(15:49):
And then you've got you justhad a single like at the end of
February right Of this year, orI mean of last year 2023.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, dead rabbit.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah, so, yeah and then.
So I was going to ask you aboutdropping new music and
everything, but you hadmentioned already that you all
have EP coming out.
Is that right?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, we actually just announced today when the
the first singles coming out, sothe first singles drop in on
the 26th of this month.
Oh shit, okay, that's cool.
Yeah, so really soon, coupleweeks, okay, sweet yeah.
Yeah, this episode dead rabbitis not, is not part of it.
So dead rabbit is just like.
That was my brother's nicknameand I wrote that song, like you
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know, right after he passed, andwe're just like fuck it, let's
just put out a single song, youknow what I mean.
Just like, just for, just forsomething, you know.
And then, right after wereleased that song, a couple
months later, my sister diedfrom the same thing, and then,
oh shit, yeah, so sorry, so,thank you, it's, it's.
You know, life, life definitelyhappens.
(17:02):
But it happens, you know, butfuck the pharmaceutical industry
.
That's all.
That's all I have to say.
Yeah, yeah, because they bothoverdosed on fentanyl.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Okay that's what I was.
I was figuring something likethat.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Or my brother my brother's was kind of like a he.
He had MS, so he got diagnosedwith multiple sclerosis when he
was 16 is like one of theyoungest in the country at the
time and that's a disease thatdoesn't go away.
You know what I mean.
It just it gets progressivelyworse over your lifetime and by
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the time he was 18, his doctorshad him on oxy 120s, which if I
took that it would kill me, youknow.
Yeah, so he was, you know, madeinto a drug addict from the
pharmaceutical industry, youknow.
So I mean, his body was relianton it and you know he
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definitely started to abuse itafter years and, you know, would
run out and would find his owndrugs because he couldn't get a
script filled and stuff likethat, you know, and stuff.
You know it sucks.
But my sister was she actually.
She got involved with somereally fucked up people and you
know she became a heroin addictand got clean for a while, got
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clean, she had a kid, got gotclean for three years and then,
yeah, had a slip up and thatslip up was the last, the last
thing, you know.
So now my mom, my brother, hadtwo kids, my sister was single,
and so my mom's got her threeyear old now.
So, yeah, it's been a crazypast two years, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I understand.
I'm sorry about that.
I'd come from a fan.
I've never said this out loudso I don't know how to word it
but I come from a family thatthere's a lot of drug and
alcohol abuse and luckily, a lotof them I'd say like 90% or
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something you know off the topof my head have recovered or in
some sort of program orsomething like that.
But yeah, that's horrible, I'msorry.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, thank you, it's okay.
Yeah, I think addiction is a.
It's a crazy thing because somepeople are just, some people
don't, their brain doesn't getaddicted to things you know what
I mean Like.
And then some people, it's likedrugs affect them in a way that
they like me, I would neverunderstand it.
You know what I mean.
Like I don't know, I don't knowhow I got skipped with it, but
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like I mean I've done.
I mean I don't really care,I've done pretty much every drug
that you could think of.
You know, what I mean.
At some point in time I'vetried it.
You know what I mean, but I'venever woken up the next day and
been like, oh, I need to do awhole bunch of that again.
You know what I mean.
Like I've never had like a weakbender fucking doing something
(20:05):
fucked up.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like some people, it'slike they try something once and
they're just like I need thatall the time, you know, but like
I don't know, my brain justdoesn't comprehend it.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm the same way Like and it maybe.
Maybe it's because I was raisedaround so many people that like
examples of what not to do,type thing.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Yeah, yeah, I could probably attest to that as well,
because you know I have had Imean almost every childhood
friend that I've had is gonebecause of because of opiates
you know what I mean LikeOxycontin, percocet and Bednell.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's horrible.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, I'm glad you're not Especially Florida.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Florida.
It's crazy.
Yeah, florida is from what I've.
I mean, I've only been a coupleof times with.
I've known people from Floridaand stuff like that.
I've always heard that it'spretty heavy.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, yeah, just the like when Oxycontin started
getting prescribed to people,like in the 2000s, it was like
that was all you heard about.
It was fucking crazy.
Yeah, but yeah.
So I think that's probably ahuge reason why I've never fell
down that path, because I always, like, saw the way people
started acting and I was like Ido not want anything to do with
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that.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's.
That's crazy.
Well, I'm glad you're not.
But, back to back to musicbeing released.
I mean, I don't, I don't care.
Like I said, it's it'sconversational and like
obviously I don't want to upsetyou, but I'm down to talk to
about whatever you know.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, that's, it doesn't upset me, it's all stuff
that I would I would preferactually talking about, just to
you know, have people hear, hearthat stuff, you know, yeah, but
yeah, we're about to release anew song in a couple of weeks
and stuff is going to startstart rolling out by the by the
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month, throughout this wholeyear, and we got a lot of, a lot
of cool stuff.
Like we have tour that we leave, a Europe tour that we leave
for on April 3rd and then, andthen we come home from the April
tour and five days after we gethome we do six weeks US tour
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with spite and a band calledthrown and a band called Psycho
frame, been called sell sales,actually from Texas, and then a
band called noses.
So thrown is from Europe andnoses is from Japan, and so,
(22:58):
yeah, so should be, should be acool tour.
That's that, that's all in theStates in May and June.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, no, that sounds sick.
I've I actually.
I listened to thrown as well,so that's, that's awesome, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
There.
There are another band that'son like a lot of like the
extreme metal workout play listsand stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, for sure, yeah, so as far as.
So you are going to do thattour, you said.
You said April and May, is thatright?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yep, so April's Europe, and then May June is the
States.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Okay, okay, sweet have y'all.
Is that y'all's first timedoing Europe, or?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
have y'all.
No that'll.
This'll be our third time.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh damn, okay, Sweet yeah, okay, do you have?
You have a favorite place overthere, like not necessarily to
tour, but like spot.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I, I really like, I like the UK a lot.
Uk is fucking really sick.
It's all really cool.
Last time we were over there wehad a day off in Paris and we
like walked like the catacombsand stuff like that.
Oh, yeah.
That shit was fucking awesome,yeah.
(24:17):
But yeah, it's all really coolover there.
People are cool, it's just.
It's just great.
Uk is just I don't know.
It's really, it's really dopeand they're.
They have a ton of Indian foodthere and I love Indian food, so
yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah, that's how.
So let's see Basically like aright around Thanksgiving of
last year, 2023.
We, like, as a family, went toScotland.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Oh, awesome, yeah, and that was all I love Glasgow,
glasgow is fucking sick Dude.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
that's the one place we didn't go and everybody was
like you should have went, youknow it's so like just there's
so much shit happening.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
It's so awesome yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, so we we stayed in Edinburgh and then we like
traveled all like we did thehigh, like went to the Highlands
, we went to Loch Ness and likeI don't even know like 20
different cities.
We were there for like twoweeks and so.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Damn, that's so awesome.
Yeah, that's the one thing.
That's like you know you go ontour and you see all these
places, but you don't have timeto like really see the places.
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, when we're placeswe get, we get there at noon, we
load in, we sound check doorsopen, we play the show and then
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we leave.
You know what I mean.
Like we never like have a dayoff to really see much.
Yeah, like like we're overthere for three weeks coming up
and we have two days off forlike during the whole time.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, Well, that's not.
Yeah, that that sucks.
I've I listened to a bunch ofpodcasts and a lot of them are
like comedians and you know theydo work as well and they say
the same same thing.
That it sucks.
Like you go all over the worldand then you're like, well, I
had like a few days off here andthere or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, you go all over the world but you don't
get to really experience it.
I mean, you do, but it's justin a different form than what
most people are expecting tohear.
You know, right.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, yeah.
So as far, so sorry I might hitmy head still on the addiction
thing and everything.
So it kind of bothered me alittle bit.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
As far as.
So, once y'all are done withthe tour, do y'all have like,
are y'all planned and haveanything planned further out as
far?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
as oh yeah, yeah, we have our entire like tours,
music coming out, stuff likethat.
Like we are, we are acompletely booked solid until
March of 2025.
Oh shit, okay, that's just, butit's all stuff that it's not
(27:07):
announced yet.
That you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Like.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I can't say who it's with or what it is.
But yeah, we are booked solidtill March next year.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Well, that's sick.
So congrats on that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
It's fucking so dope.
Yeah, I'm.
There's a couple of things thatI'm.
I just can't wait for it tohappen, just so I can be like yo
, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Okay, well, I'll definitely keep an eye out as
well as everybody else.
But so booked, so I mean, asfar as so Body Snatcher
obviously is doing very well, isthat is, I guess, like health
of the band as a whole Would yousay that that's doing pretty
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well as well, like everybody'sgetting along.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, oh yeah, definitely, the group that we
have, like we've been this sameunit for, you know, for six
years and like that's that's allthe way down to like our tour
manager has been with us thatlong, okay, and he also is.
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He also is our merch manager,like for while we're on the road
, and then our sound guy he goeson every tour with us and he's
like they're both part of theband.
So there's there's six of usand six of us that are always on
tour together for every singletour, same six people.
(28:40):
And yeah, we all get alongextremely well.
And it's like, you know, nomatter what, whenever you live
with somebody and you knowliving with somebody in a house
is one thing, living withsomebody in a van or a bus is a
completely different thing.
You know what I mean.
So I mean I'm not going to saythat there's never arguments,
(29:02):
but if there is an argument, itis so minor that I mean whenever
I see how other bands act, I'mlike, holy shit, I fucking love
our band dude, but yeah, we allget along so well.
If there is any type ofdisagreement, it's always so
small and everybody is very goodat at just talk, talking you
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know what I mean Like we're allvery, very level headed and
we're all we're all really goodat just having conversations
with each other to resolvewhatever it was.
Which I mean I would say, maybewe have a conversation that has
to resolve an issue once to twotimes a year maybe.
So you know what I mean.
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So it's very, very rare.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, so that's, that's good.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, and we got.
We have a great manager who is,like the band's manager, a
great booking agent, and they'vebeen with us same amount of
time.
It's just like we have.
We have a really good, reallygood team.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, no, that's, that's sick.
And speaking of merch, y'all'svinyls are sick, by the way,
like just the like.
I don't know, I've always somepeople just like the black
vinyls or whatever, but likey'all have all the like mixed
colors and shit and yeah,different color yeah that's.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
I know that there's a stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
The new one that we, that we just that we just
announced is just straight black.
But there's going to be morelater on down the road I can't
say when, but they're all goingto have crazy colors and shit.
Okay, sweet.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, yeah, I was looking at the, the newest one,
or you know, the, the album thebleed abide, bleed, yes, yes,
yes and and yeah.
What I saw was like it was kindof like maroon and white or
whatever kind of.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, like maroon and like a bone color kind of yes,
yeah, yeah.
There's one that came out withthat one that's I think it was
called like the lemonade variantor something, but it was like a
yellow and like sky bluelooking one and it looked so
sick.
And a lot of those we don't.
(31:08):
We don't have a lot of those.
We don't even see them inperson.
You know what I mean?
It's like all stuff that's likeon the online store that's not
ran by us.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You know, yeah, it's just like shipped straight out
and stuff yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
And it's like we there was one.
We were playing a show inPittsburgh and there was a
record store connected to it andwe went down in there and they
had that one.
We all bought our own.
Really, even though it's ourown, babe, we all bought it
because we're like, damn, thatone looks so sick.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah, no, that's that's sick, that's that's kind
of how.
So just for E, because, like Idon't do this full time,
obviously, but I have like a joband like a side job basically
besides this.
So it's for ease of of merchand everything, I just have it
(31:54):
like similar to that, like kindof like third party source and
it just shipped straight outfrom there.
So then I was like man, I waslike before you know, I was like
I got to buy like at least oneof everything, just to like get
samples and have my own shit.
Like like you know, like I'vegot for a little bit.
I had fans that were like dude,this, you know, the shirts are
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sick and blah, blah, blah.
Whatever.
I'm like cool, I don't, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You know, like I would know.
You know people, people saidlike we'll be like oh, you guys,
you guys sent me a smallinstead of a large.
I'm like no, we didn't yeah.
We, you know, we're like youknow, we'll see people wearing
stuff at shows and we're likedamn, I never seen that one.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, they're like can you sign my shirt?
And then you're like hold on,let me look at it first yeah, it
happens all the time.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, damn that one came out so sick.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, no, that's cool .
So are you?
Are y'all all based out ofFlorida?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I mean, I'm assuming so, since y'all yeah, our bass
player was in New Jersey, okay,and for like the first four
years he was in the band.
He just moved down to Florida,like a year and a half ago and
yeah, so now everybody lives inFlorida, but we're all really
far away from each other andFlorida, like me and my guitar
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player, are like an hour to anhour and a half away, and then
our bass player and our singerlive on the other coast, so they
are like three hours away.
Okay, okay, yeah, so anytimethat we like we don't practice,
like if we're going on tour,we'll meet up the day before and
then we'll practice the daybefore for a day and then we go
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on tour.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's, that's crazy.
And that's some of the bandsI've talked to.
They're like I mean that's moreoften the case than not, at
least from my experience is thatlike, even if they're in the
same state, they're kind of likehaving to meet up and do things
to get work, you know, butthat's this.
Like Florida I mean there'sseveral states like that, but
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like Florida and Texas, I meanpeople don't really get that.
That like if you overlap, likeTexas on top of the UK, it's
like all of the UK, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, it takes me if I want to get out
of Florida, just to get intoGeorgia.
It's like a seven and a halfhour drive.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Like that's how, like from, from where I am like, if
I want to go to New Orleans,louisiana, it's like the state
over, right, yeah, it's likenine or 10, it's nine hours.
If you're like hauling ass, youknow, yeah, but it's like the
same.
Like you got to El Paso, Ithink.
It's like nine hours for me too.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
So it's like, yeah, dude, that's always the worst
drive is like because, whateverwe'll always play, like all the
tours, we'll hit, like you know,houston, dallas, fort Worth,
san Antonio, and then you gofrom San Antonio to Albuquerque.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Yeah, and that's like a 13 hour drive.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, dude, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah Well, in Albuquerque he's like all the
way up in the corner of NewMexico.
So it's, you're almost, it'slike you're going through like
four or almost five.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Normally if we do an Albuquerque, sometimes we'll go
up to Oklahoma City and thenacross, or, or or play Dallas
and then across, or.
A lot of times it'll be SanAntonio to Phoenix.
So you're like kind of justdriving the the, the border you
know like once you're once youhit El Paso.
(35:37):
You're kind of just on theborder till you hit Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah.
So so right now, as far as liketravel goes, are y'all, are you
all, going to go to the hotel?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Like, are y'all in a van, or do y'all have like a
tour bus or We've been in a vanlike a Chevy Express that we
kind of had built out that we Imean we built it out ourselves
but everybody has their own spot.
Nobody goes in each other spots, even when you know what I mean
.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
So it's like wherever you sleep like.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
That's your spot, you know.
But so we have like bunks builtin the back, so two sleep
underneath, two sleep on top,and then there's two bench seats
, so one sleeps in each benchseat and then whoever's driving
or wants to ride up front can.
But this year will be our firstyear on buses the entire year.
(36:25):
So Europe, we're on a bus, andthen we come back to the States.
We're on a.
We're on like a.
There's a company calledBandwagon in the United States
and it's like a.
It's like a.
It's a company madespecifically for bands and
there's like nine bunks.
Everybody has like their own ACcontrol.
It's like a lounge area, youknow.
(36:47):
So we'll have a microwave and arefrigerator and a coffee maker
so we can actually keep food.
That's not horrible.
And there's a shower, so, andwe don't have to drive.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
So we'll have a driver.
So yeah, I didn't even that's.
That's the worst part, in myopinion, is the driving, but
yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
People don't.
People don't understand.
Like you know, some people arelike oh, I wish I could go to
the show, but it's two hoursaway.
And I'm like, dude, like we getto venues every day at noon and
we don't leave until 1am andthen we have a six hour drive
plus almost every single night.
So it's either you know, youdon't have enough time to sleep.
(37:31):
You know what I mean you don'thave enough time to get a full
night's sleep.
No, you're just don't.
Yeah, and that's, you know, sixweeks straight.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, I mean it's basically like, because I mean
driving to me, I mean it's, it'swork as well.
You know what I mean.
So like somebody's basicallyworking, like 24 seven.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
If you're, and that's me.
I drive 24 seven because I havecrazy fucking anxiety when
other people drive, so I wouldjust rather drive.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It sucks, but you're the driver.
Yeah, okay, I'm really hypedfor this year to not have to
drive for once Okay, yeah, no,that'd be, that'd be cool, get
some, there's some beauty rest.
Yeah, yeah, dude, I can't.
So I get like a car sickness,like if I'm in the back, so I'm
like I'll.
Either I either like drive orI'll ride shotgun and we can
(38:23):
swap, or whatever you know, butI'll just yeah, it's horrible.
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I've never gotten car sickness, but that would
fucking suck.
Hey, you would hate being ontour.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, dude, well it's , it's really and it's like
random, like like nine times outof 10, I won't have it, you
know, but you can see on boats.
Um no, no, but I do still take,just as a precaution.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
I mean, or whatever, I mean, or whatever, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So, um, because like the same with airplanes, I've
like I've been on airplanes alot, but then there's like one
time where I got like a reallysick, so I was just like I'm
just going to do dramming everytime now.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
So yeah, when I was, when I was like really young, I
remember I threw up on anairplane like really, really bad
ones and I had to use the bag.
I think it was like eight yearsold or something yeah, and then
yeah and then, uh, I also likeuse.
I would throw up on boats whenI was a kid, but now it's like I
don't ever.
That never happens to meanymore.
It's like flying or or on boats.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, I guess that.
Yeah, but it's about the samefor me, because as a kid it was
like every time and then, uh,now it's probably like one out
of 10 times or something likethat.
But like my dad would just belike, look, look out the?
Uh, look out the windshield.
Quit looking out this, you know, cause you'd be like look at
the trees and you get sick, yeah, but anyways, um, yeah, so, as
(39:51):
far as, do you all do any typeof like prep?
Like, if you're going on like alike the upcoming tour you said
it's six weeks, is there?
I mean, besides music practice,obviously, is there anything
special that y'all have to do tolike prep for that long of a?
You know?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
um, I mean, yeah, definitely, like we've all been
doing it so long now that it'skind of just it doesn't feel
like prep really, and we allkind of just know what we need
and and and get it done.
But merch is a big thing Like.
So you know you have topre-plan out.
You know getting merch designsmade takes a while, you know.
(40:33):
So you have to be like oh, wehave a tour, you know that's in,
whatever it may.
So, and in November you betterbe thinking about your merch
designs and talking to theartists about gay.
So you gotta give yourself acouple of months, a lot of times
, to make sure you have thedesigns in time, make sure you
know how many of each shirtyou're wanting to order, make
(40:57):
sure the prank company knowswhere to ship those orders.
Cause, like a lot of bands, likeyou know, you, you, you sell a
lot.
If, if you're, if you'replaying in front of a good
amount of people, you're sellinga lot of merch, so you can't
carry all of you, can't carryenough merch for the whole tour
in your trailer.
(41:17):
You just can't.
Yeah, so, so we'll normally getlike a shipment every week.
So we'll normally get, you know, like like 20 boxes or
something every week.
And so you got to plan wherethey're going to ship the boxes
at.
You know like what UPS storesclose to what venues and which
ones like are open on the daysyou're going to be there, and
(41:40):
stuff like that.
So all all that is pretty.
You know stuff that it's easyto forget about but not, and
also very stressful to figureout.
But the guy that, the guy thatdoes our merch is pretty good
with it all and he just kind ofkeeps us posted and our tour
manager also handles a lot ofthat stuff for us now.
(42:00):
So he's kind of in contact withwith the merch guy and getting
all the tracking numbers sortedout and stuff like that.
And then you also have toadvance the shows that you're
going to play.
So our tour manager also doesthat.
So if you have, you know, a 30day tour before that tour starts
(42:24):
, you know in like the two tothree weeks before it starts,
you he will.
He has to hit up the promoterfor every single show.
So it's a different promoterevery day because it's a
different state every day.
So he has to hit thosepromoters up and get all the
info that we need for the day ofthe show and just basically you
(42:44):
know.
They tell him where the parkingis, you know what Wi-Fi is, if
there's showers, if there'slaundry, what time everybody's
supposed to be there or whattime sound checks are, how the
how the show's going to run thatday, and stuff like that.
But you have to do that forevery single day of the tour and
then you have to put it into anapp so that every band member
can see it and be prepared bythe day.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah, that's it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
It's a 24 hour a day job while you're on the road.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, yeah, and I guess that that's why you have
tour managers and merch guys andeverything you know like too
much?
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, cause we, we used to.
You know a lot of bands do itthemselves.
You know, like I used to do itmyself.
And then our tour manager, hecame on tour with us to learn
how to do merch.
So we all kind of showed himhow to do merch and like you
know what the merch etiquette isand like how you should go
about like organizing things inthe venue.
(43:41):
Like don't bring in more thanthree boxes Even if you're going
to sell more than that.
Just if you sell it all, go tothe trailer and bring more in.
You know what I mean, just soyou're not making clutter
everywhere.
You know little things likethat.
And he picked it up so fast andwas like the best merch guy.
And then he said he wanted tolearn how to tour, manage and
advance all the shows.
So we taught him that.
(44:01):
And now now we pay him, like wepay him a weekly rate and we
pay him a hundred percent of allthe tips, like that's card tips
and cash tips, and he fuckingbanks like he makes a very fuck
ton of money.
It's a lot, it's awesome, it'sfucking sick, yeah, but um, but
(44:25):
I mean he does, he does a ton ofwork.
He does a ton, you know, andit's like it, it.
It relieves so much stress offof all of us.
It's, it's I would.
I would hate to do a tourwithout him.
It would fuck, fucking, suck.
No, that's, that's cool, that'sgood.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
You have like a good, a good team to work with.
Yeah, besides the band, youknow, yeah, so I pretty much ran
out of questions.
I just want to thank you somuch for doing the podcast and I
know you're coming out withgreat ideas.
What new music is there?
Anything you want to plug thatyou're like allowed to plug
(45:07):
right now, like as far as theirshows, socials go, or anything?
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Um, I mean, yeah, just uh, body snatcher FL on
everything.
Um, if you're in a band andneed something recorded or mixed
, hit me up.
My website is 1776recordingscom.
I've done every body snatcherrecord.
I've done most every tradersrecord.
(45:30):
I've worked with a bunch of abunch of heavy bands in the
genre.
Um, and then, yeah, we have anew song coming out on March
26th and a bunch more awesomestuff coming out after that.
We'll be on tour in Europe inApril and be on tour in the
States and May and June.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Okay, sweet, well, um , once again, thank you so much,
and of course, dude.
Yeah, man, I'm glad to thankyou, man.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, I'm from, but Bye.
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