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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody and
welcome to another episode of
Way of Life.
I'm your host, gus Holland.
I want to do, per usual, a bigshout out to everybody that's
been supporting the podcast.
It has been growing, even sincethat last little episode that I
put out just as a kind of likea welcome back kind of episode.
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It is now I know some of thestats are coming from people
with VPNs and everything likethat, but it's reached over to
this date, over 516 citiesacross the world.
Like, I think I'd have to lookat the stats, but I think it's
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like over 50 countries, maybe 60countries, I'm not sure, but
it's really cool.
I'm a very analytical person, soit's really cool for me, or
really cool to me, to be able tosee all of that stuff.
It's pretty wild, but, um, yeah, so we're, we're back with full
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episodes from here on out, um,every Wednesday, like I said, um
, I'm going to try and actuallyI'm 100% not going to have any
type of filler content, fakehype, anything like that, any of
the BS you see on TikTok.
I love TikTok to a point, butit's kind of gotten out of hand
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and it might just be from doomscrolling, but it's like you get
burnt out with people.
It almost feels like people arejerking around like buy this,
no, buy this, oh, you need to dothis instead of that, and blah,
blah, blah, and it's reallykind of we've gotten to the peak
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of consumerism, I believe, tothe point where everybody's kind
of just getting burnt out on it.
There's always like, no matterwhat you do, there's always
something.
Or well, within the eyes ofthose types of communities that
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have gotten kind of toxic,there's always something you did
wrong, like I mean, you couldpost that you were so excited
that you lost 100 pounds overthe past year, or two years, or
three years, whatever.
And there's going to be a bunchof people in there saying how,
oh, it would have been faster ifyou did this.
Or, oh well, you did this onething a certain way and that's
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unhealthy, or whatever.
Anyways, I'm not trying to geton here and rant, um, but my
point is is uh, if you're stillsubscribed, um, I I owe you
major, so I'm super grateful.
Um, from here, the show is aboutlifting weights, obviously, but
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not just lifting weights.
So the point of the show is tokind of lift everyone's spirits
in a sense.
We want success inside andoutside of the gym, of the gym.
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Eventually, I'd like to just uhstrong men and um uh fighters
and all kinds of differentpeople, people that own gyms, um
to kind of talk about thebusiness aspect of that and also
get kind of like a behind thebehind the scenes look at either
owning a gym or how they got tothat point or anything like
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that.
Um, so we're going to havewe're definitely going to have a
uh mixed martial artists on uhin the upcoming episodes, as
well as a um strong performancestrong man.
He's been on the podcast beforeJohn Well.
Actually both of he's been onthe podcast before John Well.
Actually both of those guyshave been on the podcast before
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um John Walsh and um BrianSherma horn.
I hope I said his name correct.
I'm sorry about that if Ididn't, but um, yeah, yeah, I've
also got um been in talks withsomeone that makes custom
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lifting implements, such ascircus dumbbells and all kinds
of stuff like that.
I'm excited to get that personon the podcast to also talk
about his business.
I mean, he does other things,but he's a metal worker, so I'd
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like to see how he got there,what his plans are in the future
.
Et cetera are in the future,you know, et cetera.
My point is is that the episodesare going to be really cool and
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we're going to get back tointerviewing some people that
are very, very interestingindividuals.
Anyways, to start off, startthis episode and get to the
actual meat of it.
We're going to be talking abouttraining beyond the gym.
So a lot of people have reachedout over the years and they've
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said, oh well, what if I don'thave this type of equipment?
What if I don't have access toa gym?
What if I'm limited on time?
There's a million what ifs andeverything like that.
And if someone's reaching out,those aren't excuses.
That's actually things that arein their way and they're
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actually trying to betterthemselves.
It's different if you talk to abuddy that's out of shape and
he's got a million excuses andyou brought it up.
But if people are reaching outto me or to others and asking
for some sort of guidance ormaybe a tip or a trick or
something like that, they'reactively seeking a solution, a
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solution, um.
But my point, what I'm gettingto is, uh, that fitness isn't a
hobby.
Um, it's not a punishment.
It's not about getting a sixpack, um, it's.
It's a whole different likeperspective and it's a way of
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life you know, it's a way ofexisting in the world, so it's
kind of it's an every single daytype of thing.
Basically, if you took away gymmemberships and all the special
clothing, special supplements,um, any of the hype that you're
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seeing on TikTok where they'repushing you in certain
directions or well, you know oneway or the other, would you
still be?
Would you still be living a fitlifestyle, like a healthy
lifestyle?
So the goal, the overall goalof this podcast, is to make a
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massive overall change to theculture.
Whether that's worldwide, orit's just America or the United
States, or if it's just Texasyou know what have you but or
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even if it's just my localcommunity, there needs to be a
big perspective shift around howfitness is perceived.
People, in America at least,see it as a chore for the most
part.
I mean, there's avid gym goers,don't get me wrong, or anything
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, but overall people are like oh, I need to lose weight, I've
got to go work out, I've got todo this, blah, blah, blah.
And it's seen as like a massivetemporary imposition that is
just gonna like be negative forthem.
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But in reality it's like youjust need to like focus on
eating a little bit better andfocus on being a little bit more
active and everything.
I mean everywhere I, everywhereI've lived in Texas it is not
Walker friendly, like you can'twalk to, you can't really walk
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to the store, you can't reallywalk to work, you know things
like that.
You can't.
There's not a lot of, uh,bicycle lanes, there's not a lot
of infrastructure built around,that Like, if you go to go to
um so I've been to scotland asan example you go to scotland.
Uh, at least in the cities youcan walk pretty much everywhere,
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um, and everything's kind ofwithin a you know a reasonable
distance.
Um, their public transportationis is massive over there.
So there's, you get too tiredof walking.
You can hop on a bus or youknow whatever.
There's a, there's a lot ofoptions and so it's a little bit
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more conducive to a healthierlifestyle.
So at least in Texas, uh, wedrive everywhere.
You, if you're, if you have along driveway, you drive down to
check the mail and you driveback.
You know like it's, it's crazy,but um, so really like, as far
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as fitness goes, it's just thatmindset shift of oh, this isn't
that mindset shift of oh, thisisn't like a pain for me.
This is something that's goingto like change my life for the
better and I just need to changelike a couple small aspects
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here and there.
You know, instead of, oh, I gotto go to the gym every day for
five or six or seven days and Ineed to follow this exact
certain diet, and blah, blah,blah, and then you either burn
yourself out or you get upsetabout it because maybe you're
not seeing results right away orit's overcomplicated.
There's a lot of differentreasons.
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But we need to get that shiftgoing, like whatever.
Whatever it takes you, whateverit takes for you to like make
that shift in your mind.
Like maybe you just need to sitdown and just think about it.
Like, to be honest, is we'rekind of like overstimulated with
like bullshit knowledge onsocial media.
That's just people talking.
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You know they're just talkingand talking and talking and
nobody's ever really like makingany progress for, uh, for
themselves or anybody else onsocial media.
It's kind of like, by my course, uh, do this, here's some tips
and tricks to blah, blah, andlike it's always steering you in
a certain way.
But, um, I mean, I've, I'vebeen as far as fitness goes.
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I've been like up down and allaround, um, I've played sports
when I was a kid and I've wentthrough a phase in childhood
like teenager years and all thatwhere I didn't play sports.
But I've always had massiveinterest in weightlifting
because of growing up with mydad being a bodybuilder and all
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that stuff.
A bodybuilder and all thatstuff Um, but I've kind of I
went through that to being insuch a, you know, tight
financial spot where, like, Icouldn't afford a gym, couldn't
afford good, uh good food orclothes or or anything like that
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.
It it was.
It was super rough and kind oflike.
That's also a perspective thing.
It's like, oh, now I've got tojust focus on, you know, either
getting a better job or gettinga better living situation or,
you know, whatever that takes tobe able to, you know, feel like
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I'm not just surviving anymoreso I can actually, um, focus,
you know, do things that I like,like lift weights, you know,
like, if you're not, if you're,it's kind of kind of like those
survival shows where they'relike they're trying to survive
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out in the wilderness andeverything, you're not going to
be out there just working out oncamera while everybody's like,
no, you're, it's, it adapts tothe situation you're in.
So if you can't afford food,you know, focus on the job.
Obviously, don't focus on thegym.
You know, like I don't know ifthat's that's.
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You know like I don't know ifthat's that's.
If you like going to the gymand you can afford it, go,
obviously I'm.
One of my point is thatdifferent situations call for
different perspectives.
You know, um, you know that I.
But anyways, back back to to mystories.
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Like I started being got to apoint where I could afford, uh,
regular meals and things likethat, and then I was like, oh
well, I still can't afford a gymmembership.
So what if I?
You know, the next place I rent, I'll try and see.
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You know, get a place that's inmy budget, but try and try and
get one that has a gym.
You know that I can have accessto, and that's that's what I
did.
You know, for like two or threeyears I had an apartment that
had, within the complex, had avery crappy but a very crappy
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gym, but it had a gym and it wasbetter than nothing.
So, um, yeah, I spammed latpull downs a lot because, you
know, you can.
There's only so much you can dowith all that.
But, um, given my knowledge now, there's a whole bunch you can
do with just body weightexercises and stuff like that.
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But anyways, but yeah, and sothen I got, went through a phase
recently or it's called a phase, you know, whatever.
It's basically that, that timeperiod where I was doing Amateur
Strongman.
That was literally just becauseI like it sounds crappy, but
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because I've always wanted totry and stay lean and muscular
and I didn't have for a timeperiod I had an interest in
being a bodybuilder.
I thought it was so cool, cooland it was mainly because of my
dad and everything, and I likethought about competing and all
this and that I decided later onthat I didn't want to do that.
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Um, I, you know, like I support, support all of that, but like
that's not something that I wantto do with my body.
And so, um, went throughthrough that kind of phase and
then got to where I was workingway way too much, um, and
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putting myself and my family ina in a big like tight spot, not
not financially but just as faras my time goes, and just
working so many hours.
You just come home, go to sleepand then go back to work, you
know, then obviously you can't,can't gym and do all that stuff
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then either.
So, anyways, I ended up gaininga lot of weight and I was like,
well, I've always been curiousabout strongman and here's this
strongman competition that kindof fell into my lap and all that
.
And so I went and competed myfirst amateur strongman
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competition at the RonnieColeman Classic, and that did
not go well, but I was the mostamateur of amateurs.
I have a lot of liftingexperience, so I'd never touched
a strongman implement and sowhen I signed up as a novice, I
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was a very, very true novice.
I hadn't even seen acompetition, except for what was
on ESPN, but I've never, hadnever, been to one in person,
which.
So if anybody's interested inthat training, training
strongman or anything like thatgo, go watch some competitions
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in person, go, put your hands onthe actual implements and
everything, and you'll have much, much greater success than I
did.
Um, I placed last, obviously,um, but I, I wasn't ashamed of
my performance, uh, but I didnot like how it turned out.
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And um, yeah, it was.
It was all right, you know, butit's a learning, a learning
moment, and I, it was somethingthat I'm, I'm happy that I, you
know.
You know, like, in hindsight,I'm happy that I did um, but
anyways, um but anyways.
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But fitness in general, it justneeds to be a lifestyle.
It's not a 12 week program oran 8 week program or whatever
they try and sell you online.
Like you.
Still, whatever it's like yourdiet, you know you need to form
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it to what you can comfortably,what you can do and what you can
enjoy while still being healthy.
You know now, where thediscomfort comes in is because
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of that.
That's what I was trying to getto back when I was talking
about, uh, certain environmentsnot being conducive to, uh,
naturally healthy lifestyles andeverything.
Um, so the the reason thatworking out or or going out of
your way to be fit seems like abig deal and it's frustrating
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and, you know, potentially scaryfor you or whatever, is because
it's, um, it's not somethingthat feels natural, because you,
in your situation, you're notlike set up for that to be a
natural thing for you.
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You know, maybe, maybe you grewup with, you know like, nobody
that you knew worked out, youknow.
So it's actually a weird, kindof a weird thing for you and you
feel you might feeluncomfortable or you know you,
who knows it's I.
I can definitely see how itcould be, um, intimidating for
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sure, either either the gym orjust like changing your
lifestyle in that direction andat all you know.
Um, so, anyways, I'm alwayshere.
Uh, if you're, if you're alistener of the podcast, you can
always reach out to me.
Um, I best bets is the comments.
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Um, I'll always do my best toto help you or to motivate you
and steer you in the rightdirection.
Obviously, I'm not a doctor.
I don't sell any trainingcourses or dietitian framework
or anything like that, but I canat least give you, give you a
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push somewhere.
But a lot of people, as far asthe view of fitness goes,
there's a lot of people thatthat see fitness as like their
grind to earn food.
They almost see it as like ohwell, I spent 30 minutes on the
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treadmill, so yeah, I can eatthis ice cream or whatever and
whatever.
You know, it's kind of one ofthose deals where it's like
whatever works for you.
But I wouldn't necessarily saythat that's like a healthy
mindset, you know, like you candefinitely reward yourself, but
sometimes it's kind of like ifthe reward is bad, like, say
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it's bad for you, then it's.
If you're burning 400 caloriesdoing cardio and then you come
eat 1,000 calories of ice cream,you're probably better off just
not eating the ice cream andnot working out, you know?
Um, so it needs to be obviouslyproportional, or maybe you can
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even find some, something that'shealthy or or good for you,
that is, that you set up as yourreward Um's like food, food
wise, or I mean, you're, you'renot a dog, like you don't need
to be rewarded with a treat,like a damn, like a dog, like
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with a piece of food.
Um, you're, you're a human andyou need to just sometimes do
the work.
You know, like the, the gym isthere to replicate the fitness
that you're supposed to likenaturally accumulate, but
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because of the way society isset up, currently, almost nobody
actually naturally gets fit, soit's also not a quick fix for
aesthetics.
Um, maybe, I mean, unlessyou're, unless you live like a
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super, like healthy lifestylealready, and you're like I just
need to lose.
You know, I want to lose fivepounds for the beach or whatever
, like yeah, then okay, ramp itup or whatever, but the uh and
that you know that would be aquick fix.
But as far as like if you'retrying to go from 30 pounds
overweight to having a six-pack.
If you're trying to go from 30pounds overweight to having a
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six-pack, it's unreasonable todo in a super quick amount of
time.
But I see that every day, allday, is people selling courses
to gullible people or people indenial that want to have these
quick changes.
It's like the whole get richquick schemes.
It's all the same.
It's just either out of denialor desperation or laziness,
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you're wanting a quick fix andthat's not what the fitness is.
And then some other people, theyactually see it as a punishment
for bad habits.
So that is not.
I guess, technically that wouldget you in the gym more often,
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you know, because everybody hasbad habits or bad things you do
in life or whatever, but itfails a long time.
All of these things fail a longtime.
But the punishment for badhabits, one that's like, I guess
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, like subconsciously, almostallowing yourself to do the bad
thing because you're going toget punished for it later.
It's like just don't do the badthing.
You know, if you're in aconstant cycle of like I mean
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eating junk food every time Ieat a cheeseburger, I got to go
to the gym because I need toburn it off and blah, blah, blah
.
It's like, yeah, you can justnot eat the cheeseburger, I mean
, you know, or whatever, youknow, whatever it is.
Not eat the fast food and justgo to the gym, or don't go to
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the gym, you know whatever.
At that point, um, my point isis that the punishment for bad
habits does not last long termbecause you're uh, it's a
vicious cycle of doing good andthen doing bad, and then doing
good and doing bad, and you'retypically with that kind of uh,
lifestyle or perspective orwhatever.
You end up not seeing anychange, or maybe you're still
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drifting toward the negativerepercussions of those actions.
Maybe you're still gainingweight, but you're only gaining
like half a pound every month.
So then you don't realize thatyou know you're out of shape by
at the end of the year and allyou did was beat yourself up.
Um, but basically, back to thatfitness as a culture or a way
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of life or a way of being, thatframework um of life or way of
being that framework um.
You is like a good way to lookat it is like movement.
Everyone has daily rituals, youknow, like maybe it's coffee or
, I would say most people usesome form of caffeine during the
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day because they think it givesthem energy, and it really
doesn't give you energy.
It just kind of like forcesyour body to start spending it
faster.
Um, but anyway, anyways, Idigress.
But, um, forming fitness intobeing like a piece of your
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culture or, like your, your coreideology is key.
So, like movement, um, as adaily ritual.
So, instead of like cardiobeing a punishment, you're like,
oh well, um, from anytime I goto this store to get you know,
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to stock up on my makeup orwhatever's close to you, maybe
it's to buy a gallon of milk orwhatever.
I'm just going to walk there.
Yeah, it's two miles, but I'mjust going to walk there, and
obviously do it during daylight,as long as it's safe, and all
that stuff.
But just introducing littlethings into your life that
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become rituals, preferably dailyrituals, that's like the best
way to do it.
I hate cardio like a hundredpercent, and it's it is tied to
bad experiences, experiencesI've had in sports that are also
it's also tied that you know,it's all tied to my lung issues,
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um, and so I was like, well,what's a good way that I can
like quit looking at cardio aslike a punishment or having to
do something.
I hate and blah, blah, blah.
And I really don't have to docardio, but it's a great way to
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burn fat and it's a great way toburn uh, stress and you name it
.
You know there's a, it's ithelps, so I'm going to do it.
So I have a stationary bike inthe garage and I just say, hey,
well, here's a perfect windowwhere my kids are asleep and my
wife loves to read I love toread too, but she really loves
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to read and so here's a perfectwindow, the kids will be asleep,
she can read.
I can go out into the garage andI'm going to do like a HIIT
style, you know, high intensity,interval training style workout
on the stationary bike andwhile varying the resistance.
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And so while I'm out there,I'll watch something on my phone
you know, some episode ofsomething that my wife isn't
interested in or listen to anaudio book that I have
downloaded, or some music orwhatever and just knock out 30
minutes of like hit cardio andwhy, why overcomplicate it as
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far as like scheduling and allthat, just for me personally,
I'm like I'm going to do thisevery night, every night, like
seven days a week, I'm going togo do 30 minutes of that, no
matter, I mean, unless I'm sickor something, but like no matter
what else, like no matter of myweight training schedule, no
matter of anything that's atnighttime I'm always home at
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night now, so do that and that'syour ritual, and it's really
not that bad.
I get to enjoy some, uh, youknow, a, uh, a show that I like,
or audio book or music orwhatever.
That's actually the plus.
It's like, oh you, you get someextra time, uh, to enjoy some
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media that you, you like orwhatever.
Um, you can also look at food asnourishment instead of like a
restriction.
So you're saying, oh well, Ihear a lot like with the keto
and everything, I can't eatbread, I can't, blah, blah, blah
.
And like they're saying it likeit's a punishment or like
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they're like some prisoner totheir diet or something like
that.
And one if you don't, I meanand it works for people for sure
Like I'm not knocking it at all, but it's like if you don't
have a gluten intolerance orceliac disease or some very
immediate issue with your hearthealth or you know something
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like that, like bread here andthere is not going heart health
or you know something like that,like like bread here and there
is not going to kill you, youknow it's, but, um, it needs to
be seen as nourishment, you know.
So you need to.
You need to form a diet thatyou love and that and that is
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also good for you.
So, obviously, if you feel likeway better when you don't have
bread, maybe don't do bread, youknow, uh, whatever that is, or
maybe it's just everything inmoderation.
You know just a simple basicprinciple of uh, controlling
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your eating habits andeverything.
Just say, hey, well, yeah, okay, I'm not eating this healthy
thing.
The big thing is overeating.
You're like, well, I'm notovereating, but now, because I'm
controlling this, I'm notfeeling as bloated or I'm not
getting as sick as often.
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You name it.
Whatever the benefit is, youcan see it as the bonus and how.
It's not either a restrictionor something to be upset about.
But that's all part of themindset shift that I'm kind of
getting at is to be a fit person, versus trying to get fit or
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trying to be better or trying toeat better or whatever.
Just know you're a fit person,you're a person that takes care
of themselves and you're happyabout taking care of yourself.
So that's kind of like aself-love thing.
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It's the same as like talkingto.
So I used to have, I mean, Istill struggle with, you know,
body image issues and all thator whatever, like most people do
, but like I used to, just in myhead I wouldn't say it out loud
, but, like you know, walk past,get out of the shower, walk
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past the mirror and, when I wasoverweight, be like, oh you fat
piece of shit, like this isfucking gross.
You know, like this is fuckinggross.
You know, like what are youdoing?
You know, and just be super.
I mean I would talk to myselfinternally worse than I would
talk to almost any person in theworld, you know, and that's not
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the way you should go abouttaking care of yourself.
So, anyways, the other thing, ifyou're, if you're interested in
, in learning about diet andexercise and everything.
I know I've touched a lot aboutexercise in this podcast and
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not so much about diets.
It's mainly because, um, notnot that it doesn't interest me,
it's just I am less versed in,uh, in the nutrition side of
things.
I would say I eat a prettyhealthy diet, but I'm not as
comfortable giving nutritionaladvice.
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But, anyways, something reallyinteresting that you can look
into are things like blue zonesor farming practices, even
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martial arts rituals, likedifferent real-world examples of
different types of cultures andindividuals who embody some
form of like fit lifestyle orhave some sort of outlier that
really sticks out from normalsociety.
And you can even like, make itfun, like, oh well, yeah, you
know, on Wednesdays I do jujitsuand I go hang out with these
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guys at this jujitsu gym andblah, blah, blah, and then on
Friday I have a little free timeduring work and I study about
jujitsu or study about or wewatch old kung fu movies or what
you know.
Like you can do.
You know, just, you need tomake it fun for yourself.
Basically, um but um, as far aslike actionable takeaways from
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this, I mean you can, you couldreplace one sedentary routine
that you have with amovement-based one.
So like when you wake up in themorning and you're all groggy
and stuff and you go get coffeeand you're like, oh well, I'm
just going to do a little bit ofstretching while my coffee
brews.
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Or, instead of taking theelevator at work, I'm going to
take the stairs from now on, oreach time I take a phone call,
I'm going to stand or I'm gonnamaybe pace a little bit instead
of sitting there at my desk allday.
Things like that is it's likesuper small and you.
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It won't maybe won'tnecessarily make you lose a
bunch of weight or anything likethat, but it's going to slowly
start shifting your mindset towhere, if you keep doing little
things like that, by a year ortwo from now, you'll be like a
whole different person person.
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But another thing is you couldadd, you know, pick one protein
rich food and try to startadding it to your meals while
cutting something unhealthy outfrom your day.
So if you, maybe every day whenyou come home from work, you
grab a bag of chips and you'relike, well, it's not that bad
they're, you know, zero transfat.
You know whatever the trickeryis on the labeling that gets you
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to justify it, or whatever yousay, well, instead of eating the
chips every day, when I comehome, I'm going to eat this
certain portion of beef jerky,or I'll get some healthy nonfat
Greek yogurt and add some honeyto it, or whatever you need to
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do.
But little things like that aregoing to be massive in the long
run.
But fitness is not somethingthat you just start and stop.
It's who you are.
It's what you like to do everysingle day.
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Now, to wrap all this up, I wantto give you so much love and
appreciation once again forsupporting this podcast.
Like I said, next week weshould be having one of those
guests on the podcast, and I'msuper excited to talk with them
and see what's new that's goingon with them and pick their
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brain about their past, presentand future.
Basically, if you enjoyed thispodcast, the number one way to
help is to share it with afriend, and the second best, and
probably equally good option isto rate and review it.
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All of those things really helpthe podcast.
And yeah, I guess that's aboutit.
Thank you all so much If youstuck through the episode.
I love you and I'll talk to youlater.
All right, bye.