February 4, 2025 • 31 mins
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Ever wondered how whiskey and wrestling could possibly go hand in hand? Join us for a lively session as we share some laughs and whiskey with our friend Terry Edwards, the generous provider of our tasting barrels. We kick off with a lighthearted chat about peculiar scents, leading us into the flavorful world of JTS Brown Bottled in Bond. With its robust 100-proof strength crafted by Heaven Hill, this whiskey sparks a spirited debate on the charm of vintage bottle designs versus their modern counterparts. We also celebrate the timeless aesthetic choices in the whiskey industry, all while appreciating Terry's crucial role in making this tasting experience possible.
As the whiskey settles, our conversation takes a nostalgic turn back to the days of wrestling fandom. We reminisce about the iconic WCW lineup, sharing fond memories of Thursday night events and legendary figures like Goldberg, Sting, and Ric Flair. Reflect on the cultural phenomenon wrestling was, as we humorously explore how our understanding of terms like "prepubescent" has evolved. Despite our waning interest as The Rock rose to fame, the joy of reliving past wrestling memories never fades. Join us for an episode that blends whiskey, wrestling, and a good dose of nostalgia, as we toast to the unforgettable moments that have shaped our interests.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
surprisingly adequate .
What are you smelling?
I think you.
I think you tailwinded thatfart over, did I?
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised,though.
No, I didn't, are you sure?
I think I don't think so.
I'm totally putting that in thebeginning.
I know, oh, I don't care whenthe things start rolling, just
go with it.
(00:20):
Yeah, I'm, I'm.
I'm a natural performer.
That's a natural gas, is whatthat is?
It's a natural gas.
I feel like I'm one color rightnow.
I feel like I'm just blue.
You know what you look like?
You look like a, your bodylooks like a blueberry and your
(00:41):
head also looks like a blueberry.
That isn't blue, that's likepale.
It's like I'm, uh, either,winter frozen.
You're like.
I'm like the blueberry that wasleft on.
You're like you know how theyou know blueberry at the top of
it, it's kind of like splitopen.
Yeah, that's my head, that'sthis, that's that.
And your head is I'm the.
(01:01):
You're the fruit of theblueberry.
I'm the flower.
The blueberry is the freakingfruit.
You more, you can't be like.
You're the fruit of the fruit.
You're the fruit within, withinthe fruit.
Like it went, there might be afruit within.
We don't know yet, we're notsure.
Well, time will tell.
(01:21):
I think we already know.
I think, well, time will tell.
I think we already know.
We know there's some fruitwithin there somewhere.
Welcome to whiskey bits withmatt and phil, where we sip on
everyday whiskeys and find thefunny in our everyday lives.
Well, you know what thatsounded like.
It sounded like you weresinging the name of today's
(01:44):
bourbon selection, which, whichis JTS Brown hey, soul sister is
JTS Brown, jts Brown.
I heard JTS Brown, jts Brown,jts Brown, bottled in bond.
100 proof.
Because it's bottled in bond,because it's Bottled and Bond
(02:05):
Because it's Bottled and BondAged.
For, let's look here, bottledand Bond has to at least be aged
for four years.
Correct, okay, nice work.
Okay, man, I really put you onthe spot there.
That was scary.
I think I peed myself, you know.
So this one, that's what I thinkwe're going to like, this one,
(02:26):
just because of this part that Iread here, which is distilled
by If you say Heaven Hill, Iwill touch your thigh.
Can I do that?
Is it Heaven Hill?
If you touch my thigh, I'mpunching you in the throat.
I can tell by the look I'mpunching you right the throat.
I can tell by the look I'mpunching you right in the
(02:48):
blueberries, hey, hey, look,we're talking like prunes.
At least, wait, hold on asecond.
I want to go back.
Plums, the non-shrimmled versionof that.
Ah, forget it.
Who am I kidding?
Yeah, it's just a couple ofdifferent, distilled by Heaven
Hill DSP, ky1, kentucky, 1.
(03:11):
But bottled, jts Brown SunCompany in Bardstown, kentucky,
okay.
So bottled and bound under USgovernment supervision Good
Straight.
Which administration, though?
Trump?
Great question, trump.
Okay, government supervision,good Straight.
Administration.
Which administration, thoughTrump?
Great question, trump, trump.
Okay, oh my gosh, is everythingokay Libertarian?
(03:32):
So this is a fun bottle that youlook at and you think there's
no chance that's gonna be anygood.
Well, hold on a second.
Look at the colors.
As a designer, I would havesaid the same thing, correct?
However, my longtime friend, mrterry edwards hello, terry.
Who, terry, has gifted us touse these barrels actually.
(03:56):
Thank you so much, terry.
Thanks, terry.
Well, I don't think he listens.
Friend of the show,unbelievable.
Uh, no, he might, but that heused to do, used to do like he
did design back in the day, anda lot of the stuff was like that
.
And so, yes, I, in my ignorance, one time, was like, oh, it's
not updated and he goes.
(04:16):
Well, this is how we did thingsa lot, and it was considered
pristine back in the day.
Sure, considered pristine backin the day.
And so I think it's it's theeye of of, of the, to understand
where art has gone.
Sure, but yes, you got to know.
Typically you would look and go, oh, it looks whatever, but it.
I, I, as a designer, I canreally appreciate it, but I will
(04:38):
say it reminds me of heavenHill stuff.
That's why I guessed heavenhill no, that's a good, that's
really good, because it isheaven.
Well, but like, look, heavenhill does a ton of bottles.
Are we just gonna reach throughall these and find all the
heaven hills?
Well, mellow corn.
Here's another example.
Again, we've talked about this.
(04:59):
When we did this one, we did,yeah, the the label is is.
It's just, they have like moreof an old-fashioned um design.
Yeah, this is old fitzgerald,this is not kind of 30s, 40s,
50s design.
Yeah, this is not the samedistillery, no, but heaven hill.
But then you look at, we'llpull out that jw dance right
there, because that's anotherone.
(05:20):
That's right here in the front,right here, right, your hands
on it, that's the one.
Yeah, yeah, I thought that'swhat you were yeah, see, this is
interesting, right, I actuallygot these bottles together, not
this one.
This is yours, myrecommendation, I believe.
But this is Heaven Hill as well.
Yeah, no way.
Yes, shut up, distilled byHeaven Hill.
(05:41):
That's why I thought you weretelling me to grab it.
Distilled by heaven hilldistilleries.
Well, that's probably why theirfreaking designer needs a shout
out, because he's good.
Yeah, I mean, it's all.
It all is the same and uh, it'sall.
I bought these together while Iwas in kentucky, so that's how
I learned about this one was.
Then they put this out.
Well, and look at that, so nice, and that's bottle and bond
again.
(06:01):
Right, but this premium, likeyou could never find this stuff,
and now obviously you'refinding it Isn't the
Pikesville's?
Not?
Pikesville is also I was justtelling somebody about this the
other day.
Heaven Hill is freaking.
My favorite, I think.
Yeah, heaven Hill.
Shout out to Heaven Hill.
Friend of the show.
(06:22):
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show.
So Shout out to Heaven Hill.
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show.
So JTS Brown.
Hey, I got my loafers on again.
What are the chances?
Go ahead, jts Brown.
Jts Brown, bottled and Bond.
Nothing special about thebottle, as we've talked about.
Sorry, don't know if you hearthat creaking, but nothing
special about the bottle.
No cork on this one.
(06:43):
This is a plastic screw top.
Yeah, same Up there.
Yep, that's how they do.
But the Heaven Hill one is anice.
This one comes in at about 23bucks, between 23 and 26.
And it's everywhere.
You can find this stuffanywhere.
Anywhere you go, you can findthis.
See, I'm not, I don't want tosay anywhere, because there are
definitely some that I'velearned they're not going to
(07:04):
sell it like a preschool.
Phil, I mean, you can't sayanywhere.
That assumes any place you arephysically at, you're not going
to find whiskey at a preschool.
If you do, what?
If you went online and orderedit online, would you have bought
whiskey from a preschool?
If I worked at a preschool, ohfor sure, enough, said you
(07:26):
preschool.
Oh for sure, okay, yeah, enough, said okay, you can find this
good point just about any liquorstore in the country, as far as
I know.
Okay, uh, but if you can't,there's probably a jw dance or
pikesville or heaven hill orsomething else, that's.
That's there for you to try, um, and so, yeah, 26 bucks.
I don't think you can go wrong.
We haven't even tried it and Idon't think you can go wrong.
Okay, I'm getting a different.
It's not a sour mash, is it?
(07:46):
Oh, great question, is it asour mash?
There's so little on thisbottle.
It is just Look, it's bottledand bond, straight Kentucky
bourbon.
We just know that it's morethan 51% corn.
That's all I can tell you.
Oh, man, it isn't asoverpoweringly sweet that you'd
(08:10):
normally catch on some bourbons,right, it has a little bit of a
tinge to it when you sniff itand it could be like a malted
barley or one of these otherpieces that's in there.
Because, again, 51% corn, agedfour years, like all bottled and
bond, hunter proof, like allbottled and bond.
And then, because it's bourbon,it has to follow the bourbon
(08:32):
rules as well.
Oh, right, right, right.
Nothing but water added to it,added to it.
Made in, made in the US of A US,of A USA, usa.
New oak barrels, new charredoak barrels.
I don't know if they have to becharred.
I I don't know if they have tobe charred, I think in order to.
(08:53):
I don't know why you wouldn'tchar it.
Oh, really good, exactly.
I mean, it has a little moreflavor than I was kind of
expecting, you know, but I amgetting the sour.
(09:14):
I am getting the sour mash thatyou're talking about, um,
especially in the back, like theback, yeah, and that's just
from memory of like other sourmashes, I think, like I don't
know that's literally when Itook the nose it was like, oh,
sour mash.
But I'm shocked in my ownexperience that I can actually
say that it kind of surprised metoo.
Right, if I could be so honest,is this a Sour Mash?
(09:37):
I don't know, let's just pourthem all together.
Yeah, genuine Sour Mash.
Maybe there's something to that,maybe there's a similarity
between them.
I mean the same distillery,different bottling JTS Brown
versus JW Dam Really good.
(09:57):
Yeah.
Bottling jts brown versus jwdamn really good.
Yeah, I really, I like it.
I mean, I like, I really likeit.
I do too.
Yeah, it has that.
You remember, a while back I waslike, oh, it feel it tastes
cold even though it's notchilled, like it has that, and
maybe it's more of like thisfresh, like you ever have a good
, uh, like bottled spring water,that when it's in glass versus
plastic it just has that freshkind of, or it's in like a
(10:18):
clearer, harder plastic, likeyeah, yeah, and it's like, oh,
it just feels there's like afiji water, fiji, yeah, yeah,
like a silkiness to it.
That's the apple fuji apples,but, uh, and also the, the mount
fuji fuji band, the fujis, ohokay, oh, that's not a real band
.
Is it real band?
(10:39):
Wow, they named themselvesafter an apple, amazing.
But um, what were we saying?
Refugees, refugees, refugees.
Yeah, gosh, it's sure that'swhat it's short for.
Yes, wow, I am learning a lottoday.
We're way under cultured.
I have no clue what's happening.
It's okay.
I watched barney as a kid.
(11:00):
That was a thing that's aboutas much as I know about.
Is that where you get the blue?
Yeah, no, he was purple moron.
Oh, sorry, he's the color ofyour shirt.
You're about halfway there,phil.
That seems really rude.
What the actual crap are youdoing?
A purple shirt?
You're halfway there.
Also, you're actually, uh, whosaid it?
(11:23):
Was it?
Selena gomez, I think, saidyeah, I'm pretty sure it was her
.
She said that the guy thatplayed yeah, it was her.
Uh, the guy that played Barneyunderneath was like a stud, a
muscle stud.
Oh, so I am halfway there.
That's what I'm saying, man.
I was just trying to say,because underneath these flabs
of steel, underneath that shirtthere's a stud, there's another
(11:47):
shirt, there's another shirt.
Because the chafing?
Because of the sweater, becauseof the sweater, because the
sweater this t-shirt is asweater is a sweater.
You know what that would be?
That would be an awesometagline for, like a wrestler oh
yeah would be.
I freaking love wrestling.
Did you ever like rest?
Did you watch wrestling?
I loved watching wrestling whenI was a kid.
(12:08):
I remember it being such a hugething and like I just don't
feel like I hear about it asmuch anymore, but I still in
target.
I see, no, I loved watchingwrestling when I was a kid.
I remember it being such a hugething and like I just don't
feel like I hear about it asmuch anymore, but I still in
target.
I see, no, it's definitelystill a thing.
I know there's a lady, there'sa girl that goes to my gym.
That is a legit wrestler, hmm,and I don't.
I don't know who she is.
(12:29):
I don't know where thepopularity sits amongst
prepubescent males Right now,today.
Yeah, but that's really what itwas when we were oh yeah,
goldberg man 8, 9, 10, 11 yearsold.
It was just.
It was wrestling, right, Iloved it.
I think it's the same.
It's just we're notprepubescent, we're not really
(12:51):
that concerned with it.
I mean, I mean, speak foryourself.
No, I'm speaking for both of us.
Oh, okay, we both have beards,that's true, I guess I'm out of
that stage.
Plenty of pubic hair.
I don't really know whatprepubescent did.
We just say pubic hair andwhiskey bits.
We did.
Yeah, I love it.
Also prepubescent, that's wherethat comes from.
(13:11):
Pre-puberty, I get it now.
I thought public.
I thought it was like you'regoing public, like, hey, it's
actually when I am now pubescent, public because you're like I
don't want to be like I can't gopublic now.
Yeah, I did you really thinkthat pre-pubescent or?
I didn't put puberty andpubescent together?
(13:33):
No, until right now.
Okay, yeah, this is a.
This is interesting to me.
Oh, huh, that makes sense.
He does it.
It's the same word.
Great, I'm glad you approved.
We'll call this one jts.
What is it?
Jts brown, puberty?
Oh, the poor folks at jts brown.
(13:56):
Gosh, that's two episodes in arow.
What can jts brown do for yourpuberty?
Okay, do for your puberty, uh,wrestling.
I remember goldberg, yeah, asbeing my favorite.
Okay, every time I heargoldberg, I think I'm goldberg,
the goalie from mighty ducks.
No, goldberg, he would do thespear and when that guy would
come out, yeah, we would just gonuts.
(14:19):
Yeah, and it was with, like Ithink, ddp diamond dallas page.
Um, sting, right thing wassting was around undertaker, I
went, I went as thing forhalloween one year.
Really.
I Really Pink leotard andeverything.
He's a Chris Pink.
Yeah, he wasn't pink, yes, hewas.
He was black, black and white.
No, his face was black andwhite, but he always wore neon
(14:42):
colors.
Really, he always had the pinkleotard and Sting pants.
Yeah, hulk Hogan, I was waymore into WCW than WWEF, wwf
we're going to be able to callit that, sorry, wildlife
Federation, yeah, not WorldWildlife Federation.
Whatever, it was WWE, for me itwas WCW.
(15:04):
Wcw, which was all those guyswe're just talking about.
Well, goldberg did start off inWCW, yeah, but Sting, ric,
flair, the Four Horsemen, sidVicious, Arne Anderson, do you
remember back in the day?
Like my dad, I remember when Iwas little he always talked
about there were these two.
(15:26):
They were like twins, thebrother something, brothers, the
Steiner brothers no, they werelike man, the Steiners are so
cool.
They were like the steiners areso cool, they were like goofy.
Uh, I mean, there were a bunchof them, but, like you had the
heck, you had the bushwhackers,yeah, from australia, and they,
yes, yes, yes, those guys, yes,yes, this is the bushwhackers.
(15:47):
Yes, I remember that as a kid.
Oh my gosh, yeah, dude.
But let me ask.
So I saw, I saw this cliprecently of rick flair and he's
coming out and he's doing hisbig thing.
Oh, macho man, randy, yeah, youdid him, but that.
But like they were, they kindof all did that in vain popping
(16:11):
and he like had a heart attackright like in the middle of
doing it.
Yeah, and they took him out ona stretcher.
But I was like, is it a bit oris it?
Was it real?
Some of it is, some of it's abit.
I mean, you can kind of tell,but was that specific thing, I
don't know, the thing thatyou're talking about, having a
heart attack on?
(16:32):
I don't think so, becauseusually when it's real, they cut
away from all of that.
You would think they do,because, like when what's his
face fell, oh, in heart, yeah,they didn't.
That was scary and that wasreal and that was the people
were wondering is this a bit oris this real?
Right, right, right.
And the fact that they didn'tshow anything was like oh, I
(16:52):
think that was probably real.
Like oh, that's what makes mewonder what the heck was going
on.
But like let's talk about thisfor a minute, because the rock
well, of course, the rock, whichI love, the rock was the rock
got popular right after.
I must have kind of stopped.
Yeah, no, I was like, I waslike the, because the rock was.
There was some stuff that wastrying to hang on, to Like we're
(17:15):
now into I'm definitely out ofhigh school at this point.
Yeah, and he was, I think, atthis one.
Like I had met Amy and likethat's when the rock she's like,
if I'm going to be with you,you're On the rock.
Yeah, well, I have a huge crushon the rock.
Well, that's between you andthe rock.
Well, there's a little bit offruit in there.
(17:37):
How can you?
It's a rock.
No, I like him as a business guy.
I like him as a person, as adad.
Just today I saw, no, he's agreat dad.
Just to you, to me, yes,personally to me as a father.
No, he's just his energy drinksfreaking good.
Like his, his, his motivation.
(17:58):
He's a marketing machine.
He's a genius.
And like marketing machine andlike, yeah, he's very similar in
the roles that he does.
But like I like him, yeah, he'sjust good.
Anyways, I never really saw him, though, as a wrestler.
I never saw any of his shtick.
I mean I remember the eyebrowand all that, but some of the
tail end.
He was so good in the ring,yeah, his mic skills, next level
(18:22):
.
I liked Goldberg kind of thatera whenever he was in there and
I think that was WCW, I thinkit was.
Well, I remember Goldberg as awwf wrestler.
I mean that's what I rememberhim as, because I I think that
was goldberg and the rock werekind of the same watched era.
We watched kind of the same era.
(18:43):
But, um, yeah, you know, like Imean stone cold again, next
level, mick Foley, yes, and whenall those guys would be in
movies, like movies withJean-Claude Van Damme and I
would watch all those movies, Iwas always like, oh my gosh, I
(19:07):
think Goldberg was in what's theseries that Jean-Claude Van
Damme did, ultimate Soldier orsomething.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, what isthat called?
And Goldberg was in one of them, okay, and uh, universal
soldier, yeah, universal soldier, yeah, yeah.
And goldberg was in likeuniversal soldier three or
something like that.
Okay, and I was like, oh,that's so freaking cool.
Yeah, goldberg, what was it solike?
Wasn't um hulk hogan was in therockies rocky movie, was he?
(19:30):
I thought he was in Rocky three, I don't know, didn't he
wrestle, didn't he wrestle Mr T?
Well, well, he fought Mr T,rocky fought Mr T in one of them
.
No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I thought, yeah, I don'tknow, it doesn't matter, but
yeah, that was always a, thatwas always like kind of an
(19:57):
interesting crossover.
But I said the guys on wcwdidn't get as much play in that
stuff.
So, right, like you said,goldberg, but that was a little
bit later on in his career, notin his heyday, right, right,
right, right, a little bit lateron.
But I love, I love those guys,like, like, um, uh, oh, what the
heck was his name?
I was just thinking, uh, lexluger, yeah, luger, yeah, yeah,
because lex luther.
But right, yeah, lug, yeah, andlike, yeah, because he was a
(20:19):
part of, he was a part of thefour horsemen, for so, no, he
was not a part of the four horse.
So, what's the thing?
Because there is obviously thisidea of, okay, they're stuntmen
, they're actors, obviously,they're athletes, they're
athletes.
But like there was, I remember,and I think even still today,
(20:42):
there's this like is it real, isit not real?
What's going on?
I mean, obviously it's aperformance, but like there's
elements of it that areobviously dangerous, obviously
real, I mean you can see timeswhere they are hitting each
other, where they are doingthings.
I mean you can't fake, youcan't fake a suplex, or like
(21:03):
bashing somebody off of theropes onto a table, onto the
ground.
But you're talking like youcan't fake that, no, but like
it's a stunt, right, yes, I meanthe the tables are a little bit
pre-cut, but these guys arealso 250 pounds, you know of all
muscle, so they go through aregular table right and that
sort of thing.
So like those parts of it arereal.
But I think all the other stuffaround it is is is pomp and
(21:26):
circumstance.
Like if you, if you try to telllike a wrestler, like this
isn't real, it's like no, it'sreal.
I wasn't, maybe wasn't gettingactually punched in the face,
right, right, right, right,right.
There are parts of it that areabsolutely real, but like I just
like the drama of it, you know,like it's like the world's best
soap opera.
It's exactly what it's soapopera for teenage boys.
(21:48):
Yeah, that's what it is.
Yeah, it's soap opera forteenage boys.
And, but I boys, um, and but Ithink I was convinced it was
real when I was younger.
Oh for sure, like what Iremember being like.
This is definitely like.
No, this is like they'reactually mad at each other.
He's bleeding.
Yeah, like goldberg's a real.
Like he's coming in in hisundies.
Yeah, like he forgot, like it'sso serious that he forgot to
(22:12):
wear pants.
He was was getting dressed andwas like, look, I need to go out
there now.
I'm about to go out to dinner,but I have to drive to this
stadium, go out there in myunderwear and spear the crap out
of this guy and then leave, andthen I'll go back and get
dressed.
Yeah, but this needs to happen.
I mean that's what I thought.
(22:34):
You believed it.
I kind of still.
But do you know?
Like there, I mean they wouldlike use razor blades and like
kind of pre cut their heads.
So then when they would get hitwith chairs, really they would
just start bleeding and it waslike, oh, this is so, this is so
crazy real.
But like you, look at his head,you're like, oh my gosh, what's
(22:54):
with all the?
He's got scars all over hishead.
Did you have like a really badcat?
Ric Flair was a bleeder, solike.
So Ric Flair was in a planeaccident.
Did you know that?
Is he still alive?
Yeah, he was in a planeaccident In the seventies.
Oh, and broke his back, oh,back, oh, and continued
(23:14):
wrestling like got fixed up andcontinued wrestling but uh, but
yeah, he had a, he had.
He was in a plane crash and andbroke his back.
Dude, I gotta tell you thisfunny story real quick.
So I had met rob schneideryears ago when I was in high
school.
Yeah, and uh, we were so starstruck because it was a bunch of
me and my theater buddies andone of the I thought you meant
you and rob schneider, me androb like together.
(23:36):
We were like wow, I was likeyou're rob shanahan meme.
Yeah, and he was like you'rematt summerfield, the kid that
no one knows.
I was like I am and you're robschneider and you're rob.
Everyone knows the guy thatonly adam, that only adam
sandler knows.
No, dude, and I remember wewere just I saw I ran into rob
schneider.
Was the first time that I sawhim.
Sorry, rob, please join ourshow.
(23:56):
Freaking love Rob Schneider.
He's awesome.
And we were so starstruck thatwe thought everybody was a
celebrity at that point.
Yeah, that we would see.
And so we went the next day.
We all went to.
It was in the wintertime and wewent to the what is that called
?
The ice skating rink out inMillennium Park.
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Oh yeah, and there was thisdude that it may have been Ric
Flair.
He looked just like him, hadthe hair, everything Like the
face, the hair, and he even waslike whoo, yes, and we went up
to him because we werestarstruck, we thought everyone
was a and we were like, are youthe nature boy?
And he goes.
I'm Ric Flair, woo, and heskates around in circles around.
Like is Ric Flair ice skatingin Millennium Park?
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Is this what he does in histime off, by himself?
He wasn't with anyone, it wasjust this guy in an ice rink.
I was like and I still don'tknow if it was him or not today,
and I saw the video of RicFlair yesterday and I was like
it might have been him actually.
So we don't know, could havebeen.
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You never know.
You never know.
I do know that this is good.
Who's your favorite wrestler.
I mean, I grew up likeidolizingizing, I guess, would
be the word, yeah for sure,mimicking every moment that I
could Sting, sting, sting was myguy.
That was the guy that I was,you know, kind of looked like
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Ultimate Warrior.
He had like similar face likepaint.
I remember him, dude, ultimateWarrior.
I remember all the video games.
Oh yeah, I'm going to have togo rent one of those games, like
I, yeah, I didn't get into thewwf stuff.
That was my thing, that's true.
Like I was give me the wcw andlike the the thursday night,
like they didn't do it.
It was diamond dallas page wcw.
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He started off in the yeah, thew the, yeah, uh, nwa was the
first one that turned into theWCW.
Yeah, but like WCW would havelike these mini, like mini
pay-per-views that weren'tactually pay-per-views on
Thursday nights.
Yeah, um, thursday night, raw,no, that was something else,
that was a different thing, butit was on, it was on TBS, it was
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on, you know anyways, so theywould have those.
And, uh, man, you know anyways,so they would have those.
And, uh, man, I just, Iremember I got one pay-per-view,
one pay-per-view when I was akid, actually two, I remember
two.
The first one was halloweenhavoc.
Oh, I remember that 1996halloween havoc 1996, which was,
I think, was filmed in chicago,if I remember correctly, but I
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could be wrong.
So that was one.
The other one was I was so intoboxing around this time, yeah,
mike Tyson was Mike Tyson, andso we got Mike Tyson Buster
Douglas.
Oh, like, maybe one time thathe lost, wow, that's the one
(26:52):
that we got, that's the one youpaid for.
Sorry about that, oops, but yeah, I remember watching Halloween
Havoc and going through, likeI'd watch it over and over and
over and over and over again,like, absolutely loved it.
Was this Diamond Dallas Page.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh man, Imean, who did this this?
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Ah, oh, that was dx.
So that was sean michaels.
There he is.
Um, yeah, that was seanmichaels and one of his tag team
partners.
But like there was, there wassean michaels and marty genetti
were the original, and then whenhe joined uh d, generation x,
um, there was another, there wasanother one that he would do
that with, but I can't remember.
I'm so glad that you likewrestling.
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I kind of want to watch itagain.
It's fun, like it's fun to goon right, it is like I don't
like the stuff that's out thereanymore because it's it's like I
don't.
I don't really get into it, butI love going back and watching
the old stuff and like the olddocumentaries and like what
these guys went through and whatthey did and like you hear all
of these other stories abouttheir time on the road, because
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they're they're travelingathletes and entertainers just
like I mean I I don't mean toput it this way, but like disney
on ice that goes around city tocity and they have pre-cards
and postcards, like when youlearn about how the
entertainment part of it works.
Like they have dark shows thatpeople would pay and go watch.
(28:23):
They weren't ever televised soyou wouldn't have any major
things happening, but like youwould get some of the backstory
to some of this stuff and itwould just be them going out
there putting on a show andhaving fun at this dark show and
then the next night would be,you know, or later on in the day
they would clear everything out, bring it in and that that's
when they would record the show.
(28:43):
And it was like some of thebigger wrestlers.
But that's where these guyswould kind of, like you know,
cut their teeth, wrestlingagainst other guys in these dark
shows in front of other peopleget a following.
So like it's weird, because youwould.
You would go like you'd watchit on, you'd watch like raw, or
yeah, you know, monday, nitro,monday, nitro, nitro with wcw,
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right, yep, their answer to that.
And you'd be like you know, howare these people know about
these, this guy that they'recheering for, like I've never
seen him.
This is his wcw nitro debut.
And're like how do they know?
Because he's been on the road,because he's been on the road in
these circuits, and it's justwild how much information Sting
for you, goldberg, for me, whowins?
(29:30):
I mean the Stinger Splash is thespear man, yeah, but I mean,
what's the other one?
He would lift him up and thenturn.
And Goldberg, I don't know allof Goldberg's moves, I know the
stinger splash, but he also hada version of the figure four leg
lock, which was Ric Flair'sfinishing move, but he would do
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something similar.
That was the scorpion, becauseremember he had the scorpion on
the side.
Yeah, dude, so he would do thefigure four leg block, but then
he would turn it over.
He looked like the crow.
That was when he became part ofNWO.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's the Sting I remember,that's the Sting you remember.
So I'm pre-NWO Sting.
Okay, yeah, oh yeah, nwo sting.
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Okay, yeah, oh yeah, I gottalook that up.
Yeah, alright, like I'm gonnalook up the recipe for this.
We should do it right now.
Let's do it.
Okay.
Well, that was fun, I guess.
Oh, cheers, cheers.
You already drank it all.
I'm gonna finish Next time onWhiskey Bits.
Yeah, wonderful family, you guysare very good people.
Could you excuse us?
I had no idea that we weregoing to be talking Aledo here.
How about it?
(30:37):
I had no idea either.
And as soon as you said theQuad Cities, I was like, okay,
that's interesting, I still knowwhere the Quad Cities are.
Yeah, it's getting closer, youkeep going, take a left on 67,
and I'm like we're doing this,we're going there, we're doing
this.
And then you landed there.
You're landing in a little towncalled Aledo Illinois, home of
a.
There's a semi-famous countrystar that came from Aledo
(30:59):
Illinois.
That's true.
Yeah, his name is Brooke.
Oh, sorry, it's not you.
No, it's Susie Boggess.
Right, it's Susie Boggess.
What Boggess?
That's bogus.
Susie Boggess?
Yep, from Aledo Illinois.
That's not a real question.
No, it is.
I don't know.
No, it is 100%.
Does she sing, yeah,beautifully, yeah, her sign.
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She got a big sign on the soonto come into Aledo.
Wait, like Susan Boyle, stop.
Oh, okay, remember that lady.
She's like, oh, she's like.
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surprisingly adequate .
What are you smelling?
I think you.
I think you tailwinded thatfart over, did I?
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised,though.
No, I didn't, are you sure?
I think I don't think so.
I'm totally putting that in thebeginning.
I know, oh, I don't care whenthe things start rolling, just
go with it.
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Yeah, I'm, I'm.
I'm a natural performer.
That's a natural gas, is whatthat is?
It's a natural gas.
I feel like I'm one color rightnow.
I feel like I'm just blue.
You know what you look like?
You look like a, your bodylooks like a blueberry and your
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head also looks like a blueberry.
That isn't blue, that's likepale.
It's like I'm, uh, either,winter frozen.
You're like.
I'm like the blueberry that wasleft on.
You're like you know how theyou know blueberry at the top of
it, it's kind of like splitopen.
Yeah, that's my head, that'sthis, that's that.
And your head is I'm the.
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You're the fruit of theblueberry.
I'm the flower.
The blueberry is the freakingfruit.
You more, you can't be like.
You're the fruit of the fruit.
You're the fruit within, withinthe fruit.
Like it went, there might be afruit within.
We don't know yet, we're notsure.
Well, time will tell.
(01:21):
I think we already know.
I think, well, time will tell.
I think we already know.
We know there's some fruitwithin there somewhere.
Welcome to whiskey bits withmatt and phil, where we sip on
everyday whiskeys and find thefunny in our everyday lives.
Well, you know what thatsounded like.
It sounded like you weresinging the name of today's
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bourbon selection, which, whichis JTS Brown hey, soul sister is
JTS Brown, jts Brown.
I heard JTS Brown, jts Brown,jts Brown, bottled in bond.
100 proof.
Because it's bottled in bond,because it's Bottled and Bond
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Because it's Bottled and BondAged.
For, let's look here, bottledand Bond has to at least be aged
for four years.
Correct, okay, nice work.
Okay, man, I really put you onthe spot there.
That was scary.
I think I peed myself, you know.
So this one, that's what I thinkwe're going to like, this one,
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just because of this part that Iread here, which is distilled
by If you say Heaven Hill, Iwill touch your thigh.
Can I do that?
Is it Heaven Hill?
If you touch my thigh, I'mpunching you in the throat.
I can tell by the look I'mpunching you right the throat.
I can tell by the look I'mpunching you right in the
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blueberries, hey, hey, look,we're talking like prunes.
At least, wait, hold on asecond.
I want to go back.
Plums, the non-shrimmled versionof that.
Ah, forget it.
Who am I kidding?
Yeah, it's just a couple ofdifferent, distilled by Heaven
Hill DSP, ky1, kentucky, 1.
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But bottled, jts Brown SunCompany in Bardstown, kentucky,
okay.
So bottled and bound under USgovernment supervision Good
Straight.
Which administration, though?
Trump?
Great question, trump.
Okay, government supervision,good Straight.
Administration.
Which administration, thoughTrump?
Great question, trump, trump.
Okay, oh my gosh, is everythingokay Libertarian?
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So this is a fun bottle that youlook at and you think there's
no chance that's gonna be anygood.
Well, hold on a second.
Look at the colors.
As a designer, I would havesaid the same thing, correct?
However, my longtime friend, mrterry edwards hello, terry.
Who, terry, has gifted us touse these barrels actually.
(03:56):
Thank you so much, terry.
Thanks, terry.
Well, I don't think he listens.
Friend of the show,unbelievable.
Uh, no, he might, but that heused to do, used to do like he
did design back in the day, anda lot of the stuff was like that
.
And so, yes, I, in my ignorance, one time, was like, oh, it's
not updated and he goes.
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Well, this is how we did thingsa lot, and it was considered
pristine back in the day.
Sure, considered pristine backin the day.
And so I think it's it's theeye of of, of the, to understand
where art has gone.
Sure, but yes, you got to know.
Typically you would look and go, oh, it looks whatever, but it.
I, I, as a designer, I canreally appreciate it, but I will
(04:38):
say it reminds me of heavenHill stuff.
That's why I guessed heavenhill no, that's a good, that's
really good, because it isheaven.
Well, but like, look, heavenhill does a ton of bottles.
Are we just gonna reach throughall these and find all the
heaven hills?
Well, mellow corn.
Here's another example.
Again, we've talked about this.
(04:59):
When we did this one, we did,yeah, the the label is is.
It's just, they have like moreof an old-fashioned um design.
Yeah, this is old fitzgerald,this is not kind of 30s, 40s,
50s design.
Yeah, this is not the samedistillery, no, but heaven hill.
But then you look at, we'llpull out that jw dance right
there, because that's anotherone.
(05:20):
That's right here in the front,right here, right, your hands
on it, that's the one.
Yeah, yeah, I thought that'swhat you were yeah, see, this is
interesting, right, I actuallygot these bottles together, not
this one.
This is yours, myrecommendation, I believe.
But this is Heaven Hill as well.
Yeah, no way.
Yes, shut up, distilled byHeaven Hill.
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That's why I thought you weretelling me to grab it.
Distilled by heaven hilldistilleries.
Well, that's probably why theirfreaking designer needs a shout
out, because he's good.
Yeah, I mean, it's all.
It all is the same and uh, it'sall.
I bought these together while Iwas in kentucky, so that's how
I learned about this one was.
Then they put this out.
Well, and look at that, so nice, and that's bottle and bond
again.
(06:01):
Right, but this premium, likeyou could never find this stuff,
and now obviously you'refinding it Isn't the
Pikesville's?
Not?
Pikesville is also I was justtelling somebody about this the
other day.
Heaven Hill is freaking.
My favorite, I think.
Yeah, heaven Hill.
Shout out to Heaven Hill.
Friend of the show.
(06:22):
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show.
So Shout out to Heaven Hill.
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show.
Friend of the show.
So JTS Brown.
Hey, I got my loafers on again.
What are the chances?
Go ahead, jts Brown.
Jts Brown, bottled and Bond.
Nothing special about thebottle, as we've talked about.
Sorry, don't know if you hearthat creaking, but nothing
special about the bottle.
No cork on this one.
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This is a plastic screw top.
Yeah, same Up there.
Yep, that's how they do.
But the Heaven Hill one is anice.
This one comes in at about 23bucks, between 23 and 26.
And it's everywhere.
You can find this stuffanywhere.
Anywhere you go, you can findthis.
See, I'm not, I don't want tosay anywhere, because there are
definitely some that I'velearned they're not going to
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sell it like a preschool.
Phil, I mean, you can't sayanywhere.
That assumes any place you arephysically at, you're not going
to find whiskey at a preschool.
If you do, what?
If you went online and orderedit online, would you have bought
whiskey from a preschool?
If I worked at a preschool, ohfor sure, enough, said you
(07:26):
preschool.
Oh for sure, okay, yeah, enough, said okay, you can find this
good point just about any liquorstore in the country, as far as
I know.
Okay, uh, but if you can't,there's probably a jw dance or
pikesville or heaven hill orsomething else, that's.
That's there for you to try, um, and so, yeah, 26 bucks.
I don't think you can go wrong.
We haven't even tried it and Idon't think you can go wrong.
Okay, I'm getting a different.
It's not a sour mash, is it?
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Oh, great question, is it asour mash?
There's so little on thisbottle.
It is just Look, it's bottledand bond, straight Kentucky
bourbon.
We just know that it's morethan 51% corn.
That's all I can tell you.
Oh, man, it isn't asoverpoweringly sweet that you'd
(08:10):
normally catch on some bourbons,right, it has a little bit of a
tinge to it when you sniff itand it could be like a malted
barley or one of these otherpieces that's in there.
Because, again, 51% corn, agedfour years, like all bottled and
bond, hunter proof, like allbottled and bond.
And then, because it's bourbon,it has to follow the bourbon
(08:32):
rules as well.
Oh, right, right, right.
Nothing but water added to it,added to it.
Made in, made in the US of A US,of A USA, usa.
New oak barrels, new charredoak barrels.
I don't know if they have to becharred.
I I don't know if they have tobe charred, I think in order to.
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I don't know why you wouldn'tchar it.
Oh, really good, exactly.
I mean, it has a little moreflavor than I was kind of
expecting, you know, but I amgetting the sour.
(09:14):
I am getting the sour mash thatyou're talking about, um,
especially in the back, like theback, yeah, and that's just
from memory of like other sourmashes, I think, like I don't
know that's literally when Itook the nose it was like, oh,
sour mash.
But I'm shocked in my ownexperience that I can actually
say that it kind of surprised metoo.
Right, if I could be so honest,is this a Sour Mash?
(09:37):
I don't know, let's just pourthem all together.
Yeah, genuine Sour Mash.
Maybe there's something to that,maybe there's a similarity
between them.
I mean the same distillery,different bottling JTS Brown
versus JW Dam Really good.
(09:57):
Yeah.
Bottling jts brown versus jwdamn really good.
Yeah, I really, I like it.
I mean, I like, I really likeit.
I do too.
Yeah, it has that.
You remember, a while back I waslike, oh, it feel it tastes
cold even though it's notchilled, like it has that, and
maybe it's more of like thisfresh, like you ever have a good
, uh, like bottled spring water,that when it's in glass versus
plastic it just has that freshkind of, or it's in like a
(10:18):
clearer, harder plastic, likeyeah, yeah, and it's like, oh,
it just feels there's like afiji water, fiji, yeah, yeah,
like a silkiness to it.
That's the apple fuji apples,but, uh, and also the, the mount
fuji fuji band, the fujis, ohokay, oh, that's not a real band
.
Is it real band?
(10:39):
Wow, they named themselvesafter an apple, amazing.
But um, what were we saying?
Refugees, refugees, refugees.
Yeah, gosh, it's sure that'swhat it's short for.
Yes, wow, I am learning a lottoday.
We're way under cultured.
I have no clue what's happening.
It's okay.
I watched barney as a kid.
(11:00):
That was a thing that's aboutas much as I know about.
Is that where you get the blue?
Yeah, no, he was purple moron.
Oh, sorry, he's the color ofyour shirt.
You're about halfway there,phil.
That seems really rude.
What the actual crap are youdoing?
A purple shirt?
You're halfway there.
Also, you're actually, uh, whosaid it?
(11:23):
Was it?
Selena gomez, I think, saidyeah, I'm pretty sure it was her
.
She said that the guy thatplayed yeah, it was her.
Uh, the guy that played Barneyunderneath was like a stud, a
muscle stud.
Oh, so I am halfway there.
That's what I'm saying, man.
I was just trying to say,because underneath these flabs
of steel, underneath that shirtthere's a stud, there's another
(11:47):
shirt, there's another shirt.
Because the chafing?
Because of the sweater, becauseof the sweater, because the
sweater this t-shirt is asweater is a sweater.
You know what that would be?
That would be an awesometagline for, like a wrestler oh
yeah would be.
I freaking love wrestling.
Did you ever like rest?
Did you watch wrestling?
I loved watching wrestling whenI was a kid.
(12:08):
I remember it being such a hugething and like I just don't
feel like I hear about it asmuch anymore, but I still in
target.
I see, no, I loved watchingwrestling when I was a kid.
I remember it being such a hugething and like I just don't
feel like I hear about it asmuch anymore, but I still in
target.
I see, no, it's definitelystill a thing.
I know there's a lady, there'sa girl that goes to my gym.
That is a legit wrestler, hmm,and I don't.
I don't know who she is.
(12:29):
I don't know where thepopularity sits amongst
prepubescent males Right now,today.
Yeah, but that's really what itwas when we were oh yeah,
goldberg man 8, 9, 10, 11 yearsold.
It was just.
It was wrestling, right, Iloved it.
I think it's the same.
It's just we're notprepubescent, we're not really
(12:51):
that concerned with it.
I mean, I mean, speak foryourself.
No, I'm speaking for both of us.
Oh, okay, we both have beards,that's true, I guess I'm out of
that stage.
Plenty of pubic hair.
I don't really know whatprepubescent did.
We just say pubic hair andwhiskey bits.
We did.
Yeah, I love it.
Also prepubescent, that's wherethat comes from.
(13:11):
Pre-puberty, I get it now.
I thought public.
I thought it was like you'regoing public, like, hey, it's
actually when I am now pubescent, public because you're like I
don't want to be like I can't gopublic now.
Yeah, I did you really thinkthat pre-pubescent or?
I didn't put puberty andpubescent together?
(13:33):
No, until right now.
Okay, yeah, this is a.
This is interesting to me.
Oh, huh, that makes sense.
He does it.
It's the same word.
Great, I'm glad you approved.
We'll call this one jts.
What is it?
Jts brown, puberty?
Oh, the poor folks at jts brown.
(13:56):
Gosh, that's two episodes in arow.
What can jts brown do for yourpuberty?
Okay, do for your puberty, uh,wrestling.
I remember goldberg, yeah, asbeing my favorite.
Okay, every time I heargoldberg, I think I'm goldberg,
the goalie from mighty ducks.
No, goldberg, he would do thespear and when that guy would
come out, yeah, we would just gonuts.
(14:19):
Yeah, and it was with, like Ithink, ddp diamond dallas page.
Um, sting, right thing wassting was around undertaker, I
went, I went as thing forhalloween one year.
Really.
I Really Pink leotard andeverything.
He's a Chris Pink.
Yeah, he wasn't pink, yes, hewas.
He was black, black and white.
No, his face was black andwhite, but he always wore neon
(14:42):
colors.
Really, he always had the pinkleotard and Sting pants.
Yeah, hulk Hogan, I was waymore into WCW than WWEF, wwf
we're going to be able to callit that, sorry, wildlife
Federation, yeah, not WorldWildlife Federation.
Whatever, it was WWE, for me itwas WCW.
(15:04):
Wcw, which was all those guyswe're just talking about.
Well, goldberg did start off inWCW, yeah, but Sting, ric,
flair, the Four Horsemen, sidVicious, Arne Anderson, do you
remember back in the day?
Like my dad, I remember when Iwas little he always talked
about there were these two.
(15:26):
They were like twins, thebrother something, brothers, the
Steiner brothers no, they werelike man, the Steiners are so
cool.
They were like the steiners areso cool, they were like goofy.
Uh, I mean, there were a bunchof them, but, like you had the
heck, you had the bushwhackers,yeah, from australia, and they,
yes, yes, yes, those guys, yes,yes, this is the bushwhackers.
(15:47):
Yes, I remember that as a kid.
Oh my gosh, yeah, dude.
But let me ask.
So I saw, I saw this cliprecently of rick flair and he's
coming out and he's doing hisbig thing.
Oh, macho man, randy, yeah, youdid him, but that.
But like they were, they kindof all did that in vain popping
(16:11):
and he like had a heart attackright like in the middle of
doing it.
Yeah, and they took him out ona stretcher.
But I was like, is it a bit oris it?
Was it real?
Some of it is, some of it's abit.
I mean, you can kind of tell,but was that specific thing, I
don't know, the thing thatyou're talking about, having a
heart attack on?
(16:32):
I don't think so, becauseusually when it's real, they cut
away from all of that.
You would think they do,because, like when what's his
face fell, oh, in heart, yeah,they didn't.
That was scary and that wasreal and that was the people
were wondering is this a bit oris this real?
Right, right, right.
And the fact that they didn'tshow anything was like oh, I
(16:52):
think that was probably real.
Like oh, that's what makes mewonder what the heck was going
on.
But like let's talk about thisfor a minute, because the rock
well, of course, the rock, whichI love, the rock was the rock
got popular right after.
I must have kind of stopped.
Yeah, no, I was like, I waslike the, because the rock was.
There was some stuff that wastrying to hang on, to Like we're
(17:15):
now into I'm definitely out ofhigh school at this point.
Yeah, and he was, I think, atthis one.
Like I had met Amy and likethat's when the rock she's like,
if I'm going to be with you,you're On the rock.
Yeah, well, I have a huge crushon the rock.
Well, that's between you andthe rock.
Well, there's a little bit offruit in there.
(17:37):
How can you?
It's a rock.
No, I like him as a business guy.
I like him as a person, as adad.
Just today I saw, no, he's agreat dad.
Just to you, to me, yes,personally to me as a father.
No, he's just his energy drinksfreaking good.
Like his, his, his motivation.
(17:58):
He's a marketing machine.
He's a genius.
And like marketing machine andlike, yeah, he's very similar in
the roles that he does.
But like I like him, yeah, he'sjust good.
Anyways, I never really saw him, though, as a wrestler.
I never saw any of his shtick.
I mean I remember the eyebrowand all that, but some of the
tail end.
He was so good in the ring,yeah, his mic skills, next level
(18:22):
.
I liked Goldberg kind of thatera whenever he was in there and
I think that was WCW, I thinkit was.
Well, I remember Goldberg as awwf wrestler.
I mean that's what I rememberhim as, because I I think that
was goldberg and the rock werekind of the same watched era.
We watched kind of the same era.
(18:43):
But, um, yeah, you know, like Imean stone cold again, next
level, mick Foley, yes, and whenall those guys would be in
movies, like movies withJean-Claude Van Damme and I
would watch all those movies, Iwas always like, oh my gosh, I
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think Goldberg was in what's theseries that Jean-Claude Van
Damme did, ultimate Soldier orsomething.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, what isthat called?
And Goldberg was in one of them, okay, and uh, universal
soldier, yeah, universal soldier, yeah, yeah.
And goldberg was in likeuniversal soldier three or
something like that.
Okay, and I was like, oh,that's so freaking cool.
Yeah, goldberg, what was it solike?
Wasn't um hulk hogan was in therockies rocky movie, was he?
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I thought he was in Rocky three, I don't know, didn't he
wrestle, didn't he wrestle Mr T?
Well, well, he fought Mr T,rocky fought Mr T in one of them
.
No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I thought, yeah, I don'tknow, it doesn't matter, but
yeah, that was always a, thatwas always like kind of an
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interesting crossover.
But I said the guys on wcwdidn't get as much play in that
stuff.
So, right, like you said,goldberg, but that was a little
bit later on in his career, notin his heyday, right, right,
right, right, a little bit lateron.
But I love, I love those guys,like, like, um, uh, oh, what the
heck was his name?
I was just thinking, uh, lexluger, yeah, luger, yeah, yeah,
because lex luther.
But right, yeah, lug, yeah, andlike, yeah, because he was a
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part of, he was a part of thefour horsemen, for so, no, he
was not a part of the four horse.
So, what's the thing?
Because there is obviously thisidea of, okay, they're stuntmen
, they're actors, obviously,they're athletes, they're
athletes.
But like there was, I remember,and I think even still today,
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there's this like is it real, isit not real?
What's going on?
I mean, obviously it's aperformance, but like there's
elements of it that areobviously dangerous, obviously
real, I mean you can see timeswhere they are hitting each
other, where they are doingthings.
I mean you can't fake, youcan't fake a suplex, or like
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bashing somebody off of theropes onto a table, onto the
ground.
But you're talking like youcan't fake that, no, but like
it's a stunt, right, yes, I meanthe the tables are a little bit
pre-cut, but these guys arealso 250 pounds, you know of all
muscle, so they go through aregular table right and that
sort of thing.
So like those parts of it arereal.
But I think all the other stuffaround it is is is pomp and
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circumstance.
Like if you, if you try to telllike a wrestler, like this
isn't real, it's like no, it'sreal.
I wasn't, maybe wasn't gettingactually punched in the face,
right, right, right, right,right.
There are parts of it that areabsolutely real, but like I just
like the drama of it, you know,like it's like the world's best
soap opera.
It's exactly what it's soapopera for teenage boys.
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Yeah, that's what it is.
Yeah, it's soap opera forteenage boys.
And, but I boys, um, and but Ithink I was convinced it was
real when I was younger.
Oh for sure, like what Iremember being like.
This is definitely like.
No, this is like they'reactually mad at each other.
He's bleeding.
Yeah, like goldberg's a real.
Like he's coming in in hisundies.
Yeah, like he forgot, like it'sso serious that he forgot to
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wear pants.
He was was getting dressed andwas like, look, I need to go out
there now.
I'm about to go out to dinner,but I have to drive to this
stadium, go out there in myunderwear and spear the crap out
of this guy and then leave, andthen I'll go back and get
dressed.
Yeah, but this needs to happen.
I mean that's what I thought.
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You believed it.
I kind of still.
But do you know?
Like there, I mean they wouldlike use razor blades and like
kind of pre cut their heads.
So then when they would get hitwith chairs, really they would
just start bleeding and it waslike, oh, this is so, this is so
crazy real.
But like you, look at his head,you're like, oh my gosh, what's
(22:54):
with all the?
He's got scars all over hishead.
Did you have like a really badcat?
Ric Flair was a bleeder, solike.
So Ric Flair was in a planeaccident.
Did you know that?
Is he still alive?
Yeah, he was in a planeaccident In the seventies.
Oh, and broke his back, oh,back, oh, and continued
(23:14):
wrestling like got fixed up andcontinued wrestling but uh, but
yeah, he had a, he had.
He was in a plane crash and andbroke his back.
Dude, I gotta tell you thisfunny story real quick.
So I had met rob schneideryears ago when I was in high
school.
Yeah, and uh, we were so starstruck because it was a bunch of
me and my theater buddies andone of the I thought you meant
you and rob schneider, me androb like together.
(23:36):
We were like wow, I was likeyou're rob shanahan meme.
Yeah, and he was like you'rematt summerfield, the kid that
no one knows.
I was like I am and you're robschneider and you're rob.
Everyone knows the guy thatonly adam, that only adam
sandler knows.
No, dude, and I remember wewere just I saw I ran into rob
schneider.
Was the first time that I sawhim.
Sorry, rob, please join ourshow.
(23:56):
Freaking love Rob Schneider.
He's awesome.
And we were so starstruck thatwe thought everybody was a
celebrity at that point.
Yeah, that we would see.
And so we went the next day.
We all went to.
It was in the wintertime and wewent to the what is that called
?
The ice skating rink out inMillennium Park.
(24:19):
Oh yeah, and there was thisdude that it may have been Ric
Flair.
He looked just like him, hadthe hair, everything Like the
face, the hair, and he even waslike whoo, yes, and we went up
to him because we werestarstruck, we thought everyone
was a and we were like, are youthe nature boy?
And he goes.
I'm Ric Flair, woo, and heskates around in circles around.
Like is Ric Flair ice skatingin Millennium Park?
(24:43):
Is this what he does in histime off, by himself?
He wasn't with anyone, it wasjust this guy in an ice rink.
I was like and I still don'tknow if it was him or not today,
and I saw the video of RicFlair yesterday and I was like
it might have been him actually.
So we don't know, could havebeen.
(25:05):
You never know.
You never know.
I do know that this is good.
Who's your favorite wrestler.
I mean, I grew up likeidolizingizing, I guess, would
be the word, yeah for sure,mimicking every moment that I
could Sting, sting, sting was myguy.
That was the guy that I was,you know, kind of looked like
(25:27):
Ultimate Warrior.
He had like similar face likepaint.
I remember him, dude, ultimateWarrior.
I remember all the video games.
Oh yeah, I'm going to have togo rent one of those games, like
I, yeah, I didn't get into thewwf stuff.
That was my thing, that's true.
Like I was give me the wcw andlike the the thursday night,
like they didn't do it.
It was diamond dallas page wcw.
(25:48):
He started off in the yeah, thew the, yeah, uh, nwa was the
first one that turned into theWCW.
Yeah, but like WCW would havelike these mini, like mini
pay-per-views that weren'tactually pay-per-views on
Thursday nights.
Yeah, um, thursday night, raw,no, that was something else,
that was a different thing, butit was on, it was on TBS, it was
(26:11):
on, you know anyways, so theywould have those.
And, uh, man, you know anyways,so they would have those.
And, uh, man, I just, Iremember I got one pay-per-view,
one pay-per-view when I was akid, actually two, I remember
two.
The first one was halloweenhavoc.
Oh, I remember that 1996halloween havoc 1996, which was,
I think, was filmed in chicago,if I remember correctly, but I
(26:32):
could be wrong.
So that was one.
The other one was I was so intoboxing around this time, yeah,
mike Tyson was Mike Tyson, andso we got Mike Tyson Buster
Douglas.
Oh, like, maybe one time thathe lost, wow, that's the one
(26:52):
that we got, that's the one youpaid for.
Sorry about that, oops, but yeah, I remember watching Halloween
Havoc and going through, likeI'd watch it over and over and
over and over and over again,like, absolutely loved it.
Was this Diamond Dallas Page.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh man, Imean, who did this this?
(27:22):
Ah, oh, that was dx.
So that was sean michaels.
There he is.
Um, yeah, that was seanmichaels and one of his tag team
partners.
But like there was, there wassean michaels and marty genetti
were the original, and then whenhe joined uh d, generation x,
um, there was another, there wasanother one that he would do
that with, but I can't remember.
I'm so glad that you likewrestling.
(27:42):
I kind of want to watch itagain.
It's fun, like it's fun to goon right, it is like I don't
like the stuff that's out thereanymore because it's it's like I
don't.
I don't really get into it, butI love going back and watching
the old stuff and like the olddocumentaries and like what
these guys went through and whatthey did and like you hear all
of these other stories abouttheir time on the road, because
(28:02):
they're they're travelingathletes and entertainers just
like I mean I I don't mean toput it this way, but like disney
on ice that goes around city tocity and they have pre-cards
and postcards, like when youlearn about how the
entertainment part of it works.
Like they have dark shows thatpeople would pay and go watch.
(28:23):
They weren't ever televised soyou wouldn't have any major
things happening, but like youwould get some of the backstory
to some of this stuff and itwould just be them going out
there putting on a show andhaving fun at this dark show and
then the next night would be,you know, or later on in the day
they would clear everything out, bring it in and that that's
when they would record the show.
(28:43):
And it was like some of thebigger wrestlers.
But that's where these guyswould kind of, like you know,
cut their teeth, wrestlingagainst other guys in these dark
shows in front of other peopleget a following.
So like it's weird, because youwould.
You would go like you'd watchit on, you'd watch like raw, or
yeah, you know, monday, nitro,monday, nitro, nitro with wcw,
(29:05):
right, yep, their answer to that.
And you'd be like you know, howare these people know about
these, this guy that they'recheering for, like I've never
seen him.
This is his wcw nitro debut.
And're like how do they know?
Because he's been on the road,because he's been on the road in
these circuits, and it's justwild how much information Sting
for you, goldberg, for me, whowins?
(29:30):
I mean the Stinger Splash is thespear man, yeah, but I mean,
what's the other one?
He would lift him up and thenturn.
And Goldberg, I don't know allof Goldberg's moves, I know the
stinger splash, but he also hada version of the figure four leg
lock, which was Ric Flair'sfinishing move, but he would do
(29:52):
something similar.
That was the scorpion, becauseremember he had the scorpion on
the side.
Yeah, dude, so he would do thefigure four leg block, but then
he would turn it over.
He looked like the crow.
That was when he became part ofNWO.
That's what I'm talking about.
That's the Sting I remember,that's the Sting you remember.
So I'm pre-NWO Sting.
Okay, yeah, oh yeah, nwo sting.
(30:17):
Okay, yeah, oh yeah, I gottalook that up.
Yeah, alright, like I'm gonnalook up the recipe for this.
We should do it right now.
Let's do it.
Okay.
Well, that was fun, I guess.
Oh, cheers, cheers.
You already drank it all.
I'm gonna finish Next time onWhiskey Bits.
Yeah, wonderful family, you guysare very good people.
Could you excuse us?
I had no idea that we weregoing to be talking Aledo here.
How about it?
(30:37):
I had no idea either.
And as soon as you said theQuad Cities, I was like, okay,
that's interesting, I still knowwhere the Quad Cities are.
Yeah, it's getting closer, youkeep going, take a left on 67,
and I'm like we're doing this,we're going there, we're doing
this.
And then you landed there.
You're landing in a little towncalled Aledo Illinois, home of
a.
There's a semi-famous countrystar that came from Aledo
(30:59):
Illinois.
That's true.
Yeah, his name is Brooke.
Oh, sorry, it's not you.
No, it's Susie Boggess.
Right, it's Susie Boggess.
What Boggess?
That's bogus.
Susie Boggess?
Yep, from Aledo Illinois.
That's not a real question.
No, it is.
I don't know.
No, it is 100%.
Does she sing, yeah,beautifully, yeah, her sign.
(31:21):
She got a big sign on the soonto come into Aledo.
Wait, like Susan Boyle, stop.
Oh, okay, remember that lady.
She's like, oh, she's like.
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