Ep 141 / Manitoba Hunting Insights: Secrets from the Experts

The primary focus of this episode is the exploration of hunting in Manitoba, Canada, as we engage in a detailed discussion with our guest, Robert Karpiac, who brings a wealth of knowledge about the region's hunting opportunities and regulations. Throughout our conversation, we delve into the unique terrain and diverse wildlife that characterize Manitoba, including moose, elk, and caribou. Robert shares his personal experiences and insights from years of outfitting and guiding, elucidating the intricacies of hunting practices and the balance between tradition and contemporary regulations. We also examine the impact of indigenous hunting rights and the importance of sustainable practices within the hunting community, emphasizing the need for collaboration and respect for the land. As we navigate these topics, we invite listeners to reflect on their own hunting journeys and the collective responsibility we share in preserving our natural resources for future generations.

The Whitetail Advantage Podcast presents a compelling exploration of hunting in Manitoba, Canada, featuring insights from veteran outfitter Robert Carpiac. The discussion begins with an introduction to the diverse landscapes of Manitoba, where rolling hills transition into vast boreal forests, creating a rich habitat for various game species. Robert articulates the unique opportunities for hunting in this region, emphasizing the abundance of moose, elk, and whitetail deer that attract hunters from across North America.

Listeners are treated to Robert's engaging stories of past hunts, which vividly illustrate the excitement and unpredictability of the hunting experience. He recounts particular challenges and triumphs, offering practical advice for both novice and seasoned hunters. The episode also delves into the regulatory framework governing hunting in Manitoba, addressing the necessity for hunters to engage with licensed outfitters and understand the local laws that ensure sustainable practices.

Further, the episode touches upon the importance of community and tradition in hunting culture, as Robert shares anecdotes about his family’s history with hunting and the bonds forged through shared experiences in the great outdoors. The hosts maintain a serious tone throughout, focusing on the gravity of conservation efforts and the ethical responsibilities that come with hunting. This episode serves as a comprehensive guide to hunting in Manitoba, blending informative content with personal narrative to engage listeners who share a passion for the outdoors.

Takeaways:

• The discussion centers around the unique hunting opportunities offered in Manitoba, highlighting the province's diverse wildlife and landscapes.
• An intimate exploration of hunting techniques reveals the importance of understanding local terrain and wildlife behavior for successful hunts.
• The conversation emphasizes the significance of ethical hunting practices and the need to balance indigenous rights with conservation efforts.
• Insights into the costs and regulations of hunting in Manitoba provide valuable information for potential hunters planning their trips.
• The podcast features personal anecdotes from experienced hunters that illustrate the challenges and rewards of hunting in Canada's wilderness.
• A focus on community engagement within the hunting world underscores the necessity for cooperation and mutual respect among hunters and conservationists.

Episode Transcript

(00:02):
Welcome to the WhitetailAdvantage Podcast with.
Your host, Brett Bovin.
Thank you for tuning in andenjoy the show.
What is up, guys?
It is Brad Boven.

(00:22):
And welcome to the Electronic Campfire.
It is Tuesday, March 25, 2025.
And we're just going to leaveit short for today's intro.
We're not politically correct.
We cover a variety ofdifferent topics.
Our Sunday show, it's ourlaidback roundtable segment.
But it's a Tuesday show, so astate specific show.
Bring a guest that lives andhunts in that state.

(00:44):
Tonight we're covering Manitoba.
Now, I know they're not calledstates, they're called provinces.
But I'm just used saying states.
Anyways, first off, Michael, Iwant to say.
Yes, we're just joking.
Just joking.
Okay.
Anyways, Johnny's not here for tonight.
So we don't have the hunt,befriend or kill.

(01:06):
So if anybody has one ofthose, you know what?
Michael, come up with threeanimals for hunt, befriend or kill
for our guest tonight.
And Dave and Squatch.
And we're ready to breed them off.
Anyways, like I said, put yourcord in a slot machine.
Help share a show.
Enough of me checking, talking.
Let's bring everybody in.

(01:26):
Squatch, how are you?
What's up, boys?
Dave, what's up, buddy?
Phone away in your Grindr account.
Thank you very much.
It's actually yours.
It's yours.
I'm trying to give them yourpersonal number.
Robert, thanks for coming onthe show.
I'm sorry you said yes.

(01:49):
So am I.
How's it going, guys?
I'm good, brother.
So usually, like I said, weusually do befriend or kill.
But you know what?
Actually, since Michael'staken forever to come up with three
answers or three animals.
I'm going to come up with three.
Off the top of the dome, youhave a whale, a caribou and a lion.

(02:13):
You have to hunt, befriend or kill.
All right, so hunt.
I'll go with.
I'll go with.
Hunt caribou, kill, be a lion.
And befriend will be a whale.
Nice.
Yeah, because I want to hunt acaribou too.
Come on up.
Me too.

(02:35):
Dave, Squatch.
We'll get you guys one.
As soon as Michael comes upwith three other ones.
I guess it's going to be a.
Possum, a raccoon and a beaver.
Let's just get this out the way.
Robert, have you ever triedpossum before?
I have never tried posum.
I've only seen one Fum.
And that was alive.
Lots of dead ones on thehighway when I was traveling, so

(02:57):
I've never eaten a fossum.
That's Michael's infamous question.
Yep, it is.
Every, every person that comeson, we get them at our house.
So I'm just going to shootone, freeze it and send it to Michael.
He's got the forest.
So, yeah, I had a better idea.
I want to trap one, throw itin bed with Brett so he gets his

(03:19):
ass out of bed and goes outhunting in the morning.
Oh my God.
You guys actually really knowlittle critters.
Well, they're nasty little things.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, Robert, what's that giantpole behind you?
Golf club?
That's my golf club.
Yeah.
No, that is a.

(03:40):
That's a narwhal tusk that Iobtained from hunting up in Nunavut.
Oh, I don't know.
Probably.
Well, 21 years ago, actuallydoing some work up there.
And I walked down to the localmarina where some guys are working
on a boat asking where I couldcatch the mark to char.
And in their best English thatthey could speak, they said, donno

(04:04):
hunt whale.
So I'm like, well, how do I do that?
So they said, come back at 3:00.
And so I walked down to thepier at 3 o'clock and game wardens
are standing there and they'reall mad at me, thinking I wanted
to go shoot whales and I justwanted to participate.
And it turns out that theywere cool with it.
So the game warden made me buya marine mammal license which cost

(04:25):
me five bucks.
Oh, wow.
And said I had to pay for thefuel, which cost me, I think it was
like 32 bucks worth of fuel.
And I hunted whales with themfor 16 hours.
We got three whales and I shotpersonally two ring seals while I
was with them.
It's a pretty cool adventure.
So are there, hands down, thebest hunt that I've ever experienced?

(04:48):
Right there.
That just sounds awesome theway they.
And when we're hunting them, they're.
They're on the front of a 16foot boat which is like a 16 foot
canoe with a 40 horsepower or60 horsepower on the back, three
men in it, and the guy on thefront spears the whale, chases them
down, spears the whale and hasa rope tied to the harpoon which

(05:11):
is tied to a buoy.
And that buoy drags behind thewhale until the whale gets tired,
where he'll porpoise, Ibelieve it's called.
And.
And when they get tired,they'll sit there and rest and you
shoot them in the back of thehead with the whatever you have for
a rifle.
Yeah.
And then they, they quicklytie it to a rock and the tide goes
down.

(05:31):
You've got about eight hoursto work on that whale.
Chop it all up, tide comes up,everything's gone.
So it's really cool.
So for anybody who doesn'tknow like what are we talking weight
wise?
On one.
On one.
If I was to guess, and I neverdid this research but if I was to
guess, I would put themsomewhere around the 4,000pound mark.
Yeah, I was guessing, I wasguessing five, but yeah, yeah, probably

(05:54):
closer to that.
You know, I might be wrong.
They might be £9,000, theymight be £2,000.
They're bloody big.
They're freaking cool looking though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I did eat, not the pm but Idid eat the seal raw when I shot
my seal.
But I couldn't stomach eatingthe blubber from.
Oh yeah, I can't, I can'thandle fat on a pork chop, let alone

(06:15):
a whale.
So.
Nope.
But the seal was delicious.
Brett, tell them about youropportunity that you almost had to
go up in club seals when youwere a younger.
Laugh.
He was going to be able towrite tickets up in Alaska.
So when I was a junior gettingentering senior year of college,

(06:38):
I was looking at possible jobopportunities in law enforcement
because that's, everyone knowsthat's what I was getting, I got
into.
And I was really looking atbecoming a state trooper out in Alaska.
And I was this close pullingthe trigger and actually doing it.
But I stayed at home and Ialmost fought Willie Wills penguin

(07:02):
every day.
I can't stand as well as squat.
She says it the best.
You should have went to Alaska.
No.
Yeah.
I wouldn't have came back tobe honest.
My wife knows if anything everhappens to her, I'm gone.
I'm just gone.
I've done Alaska a coupletimes and it's, it's something else.

(07:25):
It's amazing.
And everything I was doinglike they were offering a $5,000
sign on bonus on top of a$50,000 move relocation benefit package
as well.
You had great pay, you hadgreat retirement and great benefits.
Everything was set upperfectly for you.
And I don't.
I haven't looked to see whattheir situation is.

(07:46):
Now I'm assuming they're doingthe same thing.
Over the counter moose.
Over the counter blacktailpersitka deer.
Hey, smart move Brett stayingin Michigan.
Yeah, that's why we're friendswith you.
You're the brains of the bunch.
Yep.
You had to.
You had the brains to makethis all just a big ball of wax and
coming together.
Okay, so what are you gonnasay, Dave?

(08:10):
I was just gonna say, inhindsight, it worked out for you.
You got beautiful kids and a wife.
You know, you could havefreaking arrested.
You could arrested Chili,Willie the penguin.
It's club seals every day ofyour life.
Yeah.
Yes.
Justin's agreeing with you.
He said yes.
You should have my dream stateto live in.

(08:31):
If I could only talk my wifeinto it.
Lol.
Yeah, my wife's from Tennessee.
I want to move down there, butshe's against it right now.
No way.
Let's take a side note realquick here.
Michael has our three animalsfor each and every one of us.
We'll start off with Robertright here.

(08:51):
I'm assuming that's a bison, a50 red squirrels and an eastern turkey.
Hunt bison.
Yep.
Kill the turkey and you gottafriend the 50 squirrels because they'll
drive you crazy, so.
Yeah, they will.
You'd have to kill them orbefriend them.
Dave, you have the bobcat,cougar and skunk.

(09:16):
I'm definitely killing theskunk because I.
Don'T want nothing to do with that.
I'd be friend to cougar andthen I'd hunt the bobcat.
That was a good one.
Squatch otter, chipmunk,cognac bear in a goldfish.
What was the last one?
Kodiak bear.

(09:37):
Oh, Kodiak bear.
All right, so I'm gonna friendthe chicken, I'm gonna fight the
ostrich, and then I'm gonnakill the grizzly bear.
Yeah, that'd be awesome, dude.
Hunt a grizzly or a Kodiak.
It's not a grizzly or.
It's Kodiak.
Yeah, well, here.
Here is Cody.
A grizzly.
There is Kodiak.

(09:57):
Yeah.
Well, I think the Kodiak isbigger than a regular.
Cool.
It is.
Kodiak is.
He's hiding behind the gun there.
Kodiaks are there.
They're bigger.
Yeah, they're big.
They're big, big, big.
Michael, the three he givesme, what.
Does he give you?
Did you get goldfish, Salamander?

(10:18):
Hang on, hang on.
A wolf, an eel and the last one.
I 50 German shepherd puppies.
No, it's worse.
Oh, my God.
A naked mole rat.
What the.
Michael?
A naked Arab?
Is that what he said?
Naked mole rat?

(10:39):
It might as well be an Arab.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, please.
Yeah.
I'm honestly going to befriend the wolf.
I'm going to kill the Nakedmole rat and hunt the eel.
There you go.
There you go.
I was blowing.
Well, he didn't do a bad jobfor standing in for Johnny Nitro.
Yeah.

(10:59):
Thank you, Michael.
Yeah.
You got a comment here fromBrian Brink?
Yo.
What is up, Brian?
Brian, that's my cousin over there.
What's up, Brian?
So, Robert, can you give alittle background about yourself,
brother?
Background about myself in thehunting world, obviously.
Grew up hunting with mygrandparents, my parents, my whole

(11:19):
life.
I was around 18, 19 years old.
I started outfitting with myuncle as a bear guide in northern
Manitoba.
Probably did that for acouple, three years, and then opened
up my own outfitting companythat was really small on year one
and got astronomically big onyear two where it sprawled from Manitoba,
Allwood, Alberta.

(11:40):
When we were guiding formoose, elk, bear, whitetail, archery,
flying bear camps, backmountain elk hunts, I probably missed
a couple animals.
Waterfowl, upland bird.
So did that until 9 11.
And then after 9 11, it kindof trickled down pretty bad with

(12:01):
the economy there.
So at the time, I had a wifeand young kids at the time.
So pulled out of that, wentback to my trade.
And when I was working on thetrades and being became an owner
of a company and started to beable to go on some of these big guided
hunts myself, I realized thatI missed outfitting a lot.
I found that I was actuallyoutfitting the outfitters on these

(12:23):
hunts a lot of the times.
And so then I startedbrainstorming what I wanted to do
and I decided to open up justa small outfitting camp here in Manitoba
where I'm only taking six bearhunters out a year.
My area is like 600 squaremiles, something like that.
It's rather large.

(12:43):
We've got some tremendousbears walking around there.
And I'm currently, knock onwood, hopefully this goes through.
I'm currently looking attaking over an outfit here in Manitoba
to take out about 34 caribouhunters a year, so.
Oh, nice.
Man.

(13:03):
One way or another, we'regonna make it work.
It's just red tape stuff.
See if you know the difference.
What's the difference betweena reindeer and a caribou?
I think it's just the region.
I'm not 100 sure, but I thinkit's just the region.
So, like I thought Brett said, one's.
On a sleigh and the other onesare in the woods.
I'm surprised Brett didn't sayone's got a red nose and rides in

(13:27):
Santa's sleigh.
Yeah, I'm not sure on thatlike you have the woodland terrapin
caribou.
The mountain caribou.
But I think a reindeer is.
Is nothing more than a caribou.
Up in the very very north tipof Alaska.
That area there I'm guessing.
Or Greenland, Iceland.
They've got caribou there too.

(13:48):
So that would be my guess.
I don't think they're adifferent subspecies of animal.
I might be wrong.
Yeah.
I think.
Didn't Johnny say one wasdomesticated or something?
Yeah, Johnny said one was domesticated.
Well same thing.
Same thing.
Yeah.
So side of the fence regionwould be on the side of the fence.

(14:09):
Yeah exactly.
It says reindeer are shorterand stouter and more sedentary than
their long legged caribou cousins.
Well I can tell you somethingright now.
Caribou are not long legged.
That's.
This is.
I'm.
Look man, I'm just reading itoff of Google.
Google's wrong.

(14:30):
I don't believe everything Iread on the Internet.
They say squatches aren't real.
And I'm sitting right here infront of you.
Yeah.
So do you have like the bigmigrations going through your area
or are they pretty much justwoodland based?
No, they're barren land caribou.
They're central Canadianbarren land.
Okay.
If I was to say I think 300000walk through something like that.

(14:53):
So it's pretty good.
We don't get you know, wedon't get those migrations where
you.
You look up and there'scaribou for tens of miles.
Yeah.
Just a line of them for miles.
Yeah.
You get the you know the podsof 5, 6, 312 and it's when it's really
good it's those pods are.
You know you'll have one andthen a half mile later you'll see

(15:15):
another pod coming and it'skind of constant.
I have seen it where there'spretty much you know anywhere you
look you could see 2, 300caribou at a time.
But the last few years it'sbeen you know five or six here go
around the river bend, oneover there.
You might not see any forthree or four hours.

(15:36):
And then all of a suddenthere's 50 like but there's more
enough to.
To get some Booners out of there.
So and so 50.
You do a lot of like this.
You do a lot of spot and stockwith them.
Is that pretty much how youhunt them?
That's how I hunt.
That's how I hunt them.
When I'm putting clients out Iusually put them up on a.
On a ridge type thing.

(15:56):
And when I say clients, allthe clients that come up to the camp
are resident hunters from Manitoba.
And we basically rent the campout with all the fixings for them
to use.
So you give them little dotson the map where there's a hill or
a rise or something, and thenthey just sit on that rise and.
And wait.
And you don't have to waitlong, but while they're doing that,

(16:18):
I'm usually cruising around onmy boat and I'll go to the very far
end of the lake where I'llhunt and then I'll hunt my way back.
And I usually get my animalsjust while I'm fishing.
Honestly, I.
I'll be fishing and go, oh,there's a big one.
Let's go after that one.
And as long as you can shoot afair distance, you're.
You're good.
Justin.

(16:39):
Coming.
I'm repping the wa merch herein Florida.
Justin, you're amazing, dude.
Michael's got a question foryou, Robert.
He asks, have you ever hunted elk?
I have hunted elk pretty muchmy entire life as an adult anyways.
I killed my first elk with abow when I was probably 19, 20 years
old.
And then I just actually shotone last year, a nice one in New

(17:01):
Mexico.
So, yeah, I house hunt elk inColorado and as well as Manitoba.
There's a good draw here.
So, yeah, hunted elk my whole life.
Guided elk as well.
Now if you're, if you'relistening to this on the audio version,
you have to go over to YouTubeand check out this video real quick.
And look at Robert's wall.

(17:22):
There's just monster deerafter monster deer.
This is.
Look at that.
Go this way here.
Oh yeah, that one's coolbecause I like how that one, it,
like, it starts to form likeyour regular typical beat and then
it just kind of goes, shootstraight up.
This one here.
Yeah, I like the, thecharacteristic of the main beam,

(17:44):
like how the.
That the an are.
I shot that buck in his bedwith my muzzle odor at two yards.
I snuck up on him.
He.
He was, he was bedded down,grunting at some does that he had
with him.
And I went on, I guess youguys would call it a bluff.
It was just like a high fieldand then dropped down into the valley.

(18:05):
And I was walking across that field.
My father was on the highwayand he was signaling me which way
the deer was.
So I, you know, I'd walk thisway on the field, walk that way on
the field.
And then he would drive by and.
Okay, it's right there.
So I, I kick my boots off andI did the stalking walk in the mud
and snow.

(18:25):
And I come to the edge and Icould hear him grunting.
And I'm looking for him andhe's literally two yards from me.
I didn't even put the gun upto my shoulder.
I just shot.
So.
Hey, Brett, did you notice hesaid he shot that deer three yards
away in its bed.
Not lying in his bed.

(18:46):
He might have been lying.
Those are words of wisdom tolive by when you're actually hunt.
Get out of bed to kill deernot sleeping because you had too
much tippy cow the night before.
Hold on here.
I'm not sure which one he is.
I think he is that one, actually.

(19:07):
I, I might have had too manypops the night before.
And I, I went to my stand and,and, and just laid down in the Snow.
Was about minus 30 and I justlaid down.
I slept there for a couple hours.
And when I woke up, lookedaround, that buck was standing there
trying to check me out, seewhat I was.
Because I was in the middle ofa field, basically, and, and I, I

(19:28):
ended up shooting him from my bed.
See, Brett, it can be done.
It can't be done.
But he did say he was layingon the snow.
He wasn't like, yeah, not from the.
Bed in your house.
Not.
Not from yours.
I'm not sure how it made it upthat morning, but it was.
It was a rough morning, that'sfor sure.
Well, what are you doing then,Robert, up there in Canada that's

(19:51):
giving you that high success?
What are you looking for?
Area is a big thing.
So I've been, you know, we'relucky here.
So I'm showing you these buckson the wall here.
And, and honestly, these arethe ones that didn't make the cut.
The bigger ones are downstairs.
I got a few Booners down there.
One of them's like 200 inch.
But we have a couple regionsin Manitoba, and when I say a couple,

(20:15):
we have quite a few regionsthat really hold some really big
antler deer.
So I, I lucked out on, on thearea that I hunt.
It was basically given to meby the government when I was getting
into outfitting at 19, 20years old there.
And I was.
It was an archery area.
So you all know when you'reguiding for archery hunters, you

(20:38):
put a lot of miles on theground trying to figure things out.
And I didn't have things likeHunt X back then.
I would literally paint apicture on.
I'm very Dry.
Everything I do, I draw.
So I would draw the field andI would draw what I think the wood
lines are that lay on thatfield and I would start walking trails

(20:59):
and I would draw on that woodline where I thought the trails would
come out and intersect.
And yeah, so that's, that'sbasically what I did back then.
And then of course, you know,year after year you tweak and you
add and, and I'm finding after30 years of hunting the same area,
I tweak where my stands are.

(21:21):
But when I say I tweak them,I'm moving them 20, 30 yards.
I'm not moving them 800 yards.
It's.
I figured it out 20, 30 yearsago and I now I just kind of bump
along.
So yeah, I want to say thatI'm, I'm good at it, but I'm, I don't
personally believe I am.
I just think I put a lot oftime on the ground and I rely on

(21:44):
a lot of information that Igathered 20, 30 years ago.
So are you archery hunting,rifle hunting?
Do a mix of both?
Well, back in the day I wasarcher hunting a lot.
So in Manitoba, up until Ithink it was about 15 years ago,
you're allowed to getwhitetail tags.
You would get an archery tagthat you could shoot a buck or a
doe on muzzleloader tag seasonand rifle.

(22:07):
And about 15 years ago theycollapsed it to one buck tag and
you could buy an antlerlessand maybe another antlerless or something
like that.
I'm not a huge fan of deermeat, so I don't generally go for
that.
But because of that I want tosay I'm still a bow hunter, but I'm
technically not because Irarely shoot an animal with my bow

(22:31):
these days and I don't becauseI only have one tag.
So if I go out there with mybow and I see a 160 plus he's getting
an arrow thrown at him.
I go out there with mymuzzleloader, same thing.
I go out there with my rifle,same thing.
But I don't want to burn mytag on a 145, 150.

(22:52):
You know, if it's a 145 fourby four, he's getting an arrow.
Yeah.
But I have an opportunity toshoot a 200 inch deer and, and we
all want to hunt the brat andthe ruts rifle season.
So yeah, I could be a die hardand hunt the whole three months with
my bow.
But I also like shootingthings at 800 yards away as well.

(23:16):
So I'm with you.
Yeah.
I hunt the seasons.
I, I don't generally stayinside when it's crappy out.
I, I, I hunt a lot.
So.
Yeah, yeah.
And, and then I'm workingduring the day.
Like in rifle season, I, Ilive two hours away from where I
hunt.
So literally come home, playhockey, midnight, jump in my truck,

(23:39):
drive the two hours, sleep inmy truck, wake up, hunt the morning
hunt, drive back back at workfor like 10:30, 11:00.
Soon as the, if I can sneakout in the afternoon, I'll be back
out there.
But usually I, I'll do thatmorning hunt because that's what
I find is the better opportunity.
So meanwhile, I think I shotmore deer in the evening.
I.

(24:00):
Do you utilize trail cameras?
I do, I do more for bear.
I used to do a lot of trailcamera hunting.
10 plus years ago I kind ofgot out of it and, and maybe now
with the cell phone cameras,but we don't have great cell phone
service up here.
I found that checking my trailcameras obviously is exciting.

(24:23):
You get to go there and pullyour card and, and it's like, it's
like Christmas every time youpull a card.
But I found I was just puttingmy feet on the ground too much during
that pre rut season there.
So I just said, you know what,I know what's here and I really don't
care if there's a 180 comparedto a 1 70.

(24:44):
I have my minimum that I'mgoing to shoot for size and it's
usually 1 60, you know, andyou'll shoot the 1 55s in there,
but you'll also shoot the 165sin there and you might sneak a 170,
180 out of there once in a while.
I know there's big deer in thearea, so I don't necessarily need
to know that he's walking downat that exact trail because I know

(25:06):
where the does are.
I know where the food is.
Yeah.
So.
So it's a yes or no.
I, I kind of did it a lot andI pulled away from it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I noticed when the old SD cardstyle cameras, I was used a lot utilizing
them a lot.
And it did help my strategy onattacking, you know, the deer and

(25:29):
getting on them sooner maybein the early preseason.
And you know, I was able toget setups where I wanted them.
But of course, deer aroundhere anyway, they'll change their
patterns up a little bit thefurther to get, you know, into the
winter and, and the stuff Iwas learning from a camera that had
an SD card.
I was actually teaching a deera little bit more about myself.

(25:52):
Yeah, I try to, I would try toleave the camera alone as long as
I could, but now with theadvances of having the cellular cams,
I leave them out all year.
You know, I, I do a lot oflike, you know, watching when fawns
are born.
I'm watching what predatorsare around and I'm watching how to
deer, you know, mitigatethrough the property through all

(26:12):
times of the year and that helps.
And I'm not touching anything.
I'm.
I'm staying the hell out of there.
I'm leaving things alone.
And I, I totally get it, man.
Where you are, you don't havea service.
You know, it's.
It's a shame sometimes it's.
It's a rough thing.
I, I got a couple of mountainspots that don't have good service
either.
And it's kind of like I.
Like you said, I know what's there.

(26:33):
I know they're big and I knowwhere they're moving.
So you know what?
Just got to go back to the oldways and, you know, hunt it the best
way that you can.
And that's, that's important.
You know, a lot of guys relyon it too much.
You know, when I personallyhunt black bear for myself, I like
not having a trail camerabecause I like not knowing if that

(26:55):
makes sense.
Like I'm still not going toshoot something smaller than 400
pounds, but I don'tnecessarily want to know that there's
a 400 pounder there.
And if there's a 400 poundblack, maybe I don't want to know
that there's a 400 pound chocolate.
I just want to be excited tosee something come in.
So when I'm hunting formyself, I generally don't use trail
cameras for black bear either.
Right, right.

(27:17):
So one thing I did learn,going back to Michael's comment about
the elk, one thing I learnedthis year is we were pig hunting.
We've got a pretty goodpopulation of wild boars here.
We're pig hunting and we wereusing a cellular camera and elk eat
them.
Elk eat the antennas off ofcellular cameras.

(27:39):
And I mentioned it to thefarmer that that's happened and he's
like, oh yeah.
Every single camera I havethat has an antenna.
The elky the antenna off.
So, yeah.
Wow.
So food for thought, if you'rein elk area, because those cameras
are expensive, lock up your.
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Tell them the WhitetailAdvantage crew sent you.
I would like to apologize toyou, Robert and everyone listening
and watching the show right now.
Squatch is an idiot because heunmuted his microphone and you could
hear the.
I unmuted it.

(30:13):
Yeah, because you're an idiot.
Your deal there.
I heard something.
Oh yeah, sorry about that.
He was coughing up the comeout of his throat and he kept unmuting
himself and I was muting himback to mute him.
But then he was unmutinghimself like a dumbass.
I just want to say I'm sorry.
I heard moaning.

(30:33):
It's my mating call.
Yeah, brother.
Dude.
I.
I apologize too.
Sorry guys.
I didn't know that was happening.
It's okay.
We.
I guess we still love you insome capacity, in some fashion.
You don't love me.
You just can't live without me.
No, I just tolerate youbecause you're on the show.
He just uses you for your body.

(30:57):
And more.
Anyways, no, we're on a newsegment right now.
What?
Not now.
We're on Squatch's segmentwhat not to say to a game warning.
All right, Mr.
Robert, so what we do here isI played a game warden and I want
you to come up with somethingthat would.
You would just not ever thinkof saying to a game warden.

(31:19):
So I'll give you a scenario.
We'll put you in a littlescenario and you know, eager to hear
what you have to say.
So let's start out this one bysaying I saw that Norwal you shot
or fished for out there.
And you know, we noticed youwere a little inebriated when you
were out on the bow of theboat trying to get them.

(31:41):
And you actually didn't shoot them.
You actually slipped and hitthem with a six pack of beer and
knocked them out.
You know, and that's illegalwhere you.
Where you're doing that.
So we need to know what youhave to say for yourself about all
that.
Chances are that's probably atrue story.
Probably happened actually.

(32:02):
You know what?
In my younger years, I.
That there's probably a lot oftruth to you catching me have a six
pack on the.
On the boat.
I don't really do it so muchanymore, but back then I.
I did it a lot.
So I'm sorry.
You can go.
You as long as you.

(32:23):
Yeah, yeah, okay.
You can go now.
You want a beer?
Oh my gosh.
All right.
So I'll throw another one at you.
Oh, boy.
When you were in your travelswhere you hunt up in Alaska, did
you remember, happen to comeacross a young lad, red hair, very

(32:46):
inexperienced, asking you abunch of questions on how do you
actually kill animals up thereand how do you go about it?
And you took him along.
I think you took him along onthe trip we saw him with you and
you actually put a gun in his hand.
Now he swears up and down hedoesn't use a gun and he hadn't taken
any safety classes.
What do you have to say foryourself about taking our young lad,

(33:07):
Brett Boven with you on this trip?
Well, if you.
If you didn't.
If you didn't say a name and,and I'm sorry if anybody from up
there is watching this rightnow, but if you didn't say the name,
that, that Is quite close tomy experience hunting mountain goat
in Alaska with a littleredhead who is very inexperienced.

(33:33):
I'll just call him Brett, butjust call him brat.
Yeah, I, I wouldn't be lyingif I said I didn't make him cry.
True story.
It might have been Brett.
He cries a lot.
He does cry a lot.
He cries a lot, right?
He cry.
He cries a lot right now.

(33:56):
Yeah.
He's crying right now saying,why did I bring these two on this
show?
Yeah, crying out the deal, you guys.
Why did I bring a guy thatclears his throat in the middle of
the break when I thought I was muted?
I have a friend who's, who'sprobably tuned in right now and,
and she was with me on thattrip and she'll vote for me.
But I, I had that guide cryingon the top of a mountain.

(34:17):
Oh, man.
Well, that's all I got, butthanks for playing along.
Y.
Thank God that segment's over.
All right, let's move on now.
Robert, let me.
I like asking this to startoff the questions with the States.
What's the terrain like there?
A little bit of everything.
We don't have mountains.

(34:37):
We have what's called theriding mountains and the Duck mountains,
which is nothing more thanbasically, you're rolling hills around
the Paw Paw area there.
Southern Manitoba is prairiegrass style oak thickets, a lot of
poplar trees.
But it's for the most partvery flat and crop fields with river

(35:00):
bottoms that we hunt.
And then when you get midManitoba up, it starts turning into
birch trees and poplar trees.
And then when you get a littlebit further from that north, north
and northeast, it turns intoboreal forest where it's just nothing
but pines and swamp and water.
Until you leave Manitoba andgo to Nudit where it's just nothing

(35:23):
but water and rock.
So we have a little bit of everything.
Nice.
Now, I was looking here, I, Iwas able to get on the website there,
if it ever loads on my laptop here.
The regions there looks likeyou have six regions in Manitoba,
north of 53.

(35:43):
Western, Parkland, Central,Interlake and Eastern.
Yeah, okay, sure.
And.
It all depends on what you'rein, what you're doing.
So I think the regions thatyou're looking at probably are from
a fishing map.

(36:04):
We have, I don't know, 30 plusarea hunting areas.
If you're hunting migratorybirds, they split the province into
four.
If you're hunting big game andupland birds, they split it into
about 30 some region.
And then the map that you'relooking at is probably More for the
fishing community, which isthose six.

(36:27):
I think there's six.
Go back to your.
Your story about making thatguy cry.
Stephanie commented, we hadthe guy.
We had to guide the guide inAlaska and wipe away his tears.
Oh, my gosh.
So.
So, you know, I.
I feel sorry for the guy alittle bit.
He was a young guy.
He was just getting into was.
I.

(36:48):
I call it day one, buttechnically it was day two.
So I flew into Alaska.
And I can't remember thefellow that you had there from Texas.
He can attest to this.
So when you go to Alaska on atrip like this, you take everything.
You get your little gear list,you take everything you laid on the
living room floor, kitchentable, whatever you're putting it

(37:09):
on, and you look at it and yougo, okay, I got to cut this in half.
And you cut it in half, youpack it all up and you get onto the
plane and I'll tell you alittle bit here.
So we're what.
We're getting onto the planein Manitoba to fly to Alaska.
And I looked at Stephanie andI said, you have your credit card

(37:30):
on you?
She's like, yeah, why?
Said, do you have much of alimit on there?
She's like, yeah, why?
I said, because I didn't bringmy wallet.
Oh, boy.
So I'm going to.
You know, I've got my.
I got my driver's license and my.
And my passport with me, but Idon't have any means of payment,
so.
And we're going on a mountaingoat hunt.

(37:51):
Like, you need some cash.
And I.
And I had nothing.
So, anyways, we go on thistrip, we get into our hotel room.
I take that same kit, I lay itout on the ground in the hotel room,
and I cut it in half again.
So we fly into our camp, youland on the ocean.
We're on Kodiak island, by the way.
We land on.
On the ocean bay on Kodiak Island.

(38:12):
And there was a base camp setup because the outfitter was getting
ready for some Kodiak hunts inthe following week.
And we were doing blackblacktail, Sitka, I guess they're
called Sitka deer.
And I was hunting mountain goat.
So as soon as you land, youmeet the guide.
You look at the mountain thatyou're going to climb up, and it

(38:36):
is the.
It looks soft and pillowy when you're.
When you're looking at it fromafar, but I've been there before,
so I know what it's all about.
And I looked at that kit thatI have to carry.
And I dumped it on the groundand I cut it in half yet again.
So now I'm literally likewhat, a quarter from when I started
off of weight.
And you put that kit on yourback and it still weighs, it feels

(38:58):
like it weighs a hundredpounds because the train sucks.
So we make our way up themountain, get above the tree line,
find a place to set up camp onthe side of a hill, set up camp,
wake up in the morning, and Ilook up the hill and there's literally
a twelve plus hundred poundKodiak standing where we want to

(39:21):
hunt.
I'm like, okay.
So he starts working his waydown to us and the, and this kid
outfitter, I won't throw hisname out there.
I was gunning, but I won't.
Nice enough guy.
So he's like, well there'sbears here, so there won't be any
goats here.
And I'm like, well there'sbears everywhere on this island,
so there's got it.
The goats got to live somewhere.

(39:42):
Yeah.
And we see another, seeanother Kodiak up there, a female.
And above her, about 880plusyards away, there's, there's a goat
standing there and he's big,like really big.
So I don't want to shoot 800yards at him.
They have a rule not to shootanything further than 200 yards.

(40:02):
Me being a prairie boy, shoot500 yards all the time.
And, and I, all my rifles thatI do this are all custom sniper rifles
that a guy here builds.
And I let that go, come downto about 500 yards, said to everybody,
okay, I'm ready.
You ready?
You're ready?
Everybody's ready, Send it.
Take the shot.

(40:23):
Goats don't flinch when youshoot them, so you can't tell if
you hit him or not.
But now he's running, so Ifigured I hit him or hit a rock beside
him.
And he does a J hook and he'srunning back up the mountain.
I take another shot and he disappears.
And I look at everybody, I'mlike, did I hit him?
And the guy's saying, yeah, Ithink you hit him and whatever.

(40:44):
So we go up this hill, it'sabout 480 yards up this hill.
And we get to the top and the mountain.
Let's see if my camera's here.
The mountain is like, I wantto say about a 45 degree going up
where we're where we shot from.
And the other side is like that.
And he was standing on the topand he fell off the back side of

(41:05):
that Mountain.
And with the rangefinder, Ifigured he was around 12, 50ft straight
down, and there's no way toget to him.
Wow.
So.
So the guide is radioing the outfitter.
The outfitter is going, he's done.
He.
It was his choice.
He pulled the trigger, cut his tag.

(41:25):
The hunt's over.
And I said, well, that's fine,but I could see him.
Let's go get them.
And they're like, nope, it'snot safe.
I said, well, it's safebecause on the far mountain, there's
a tent on the top of the far mountain.
And so they got there.
So all we need to do is get tothat tent somehow and come back down.
So after this poor guy iscaught in the middle and the outfitter's

(41:48):
saying, no, no, no.
And I'm saying, fuck you.
Yes, I just spent 10k on this.
Exactly.
I'm going to get this goat.
And they're, you know, they're.
They're fighting back and forth.
And this.
The poor kid's caught in themiddle of.
On his inreach, texting bothpeople and trying to tell, relay
the story.
And I finally, I said, here'syour choice.

(42:09):
Either we walk down and getit, or I'm taking a helicopter down
and get it.
And he goes, well, you're notallowed to fly a helicopter to pick
up game in Alaska.
I said, no, but a game warden can.
And I paid for this hunt.
And that's where my nextcall's going.
So, long story short, fourdays of hiking.
Three or four days of hiking.

(42:29):
Three days.
Three more days of hiking inthe pouring rain.
I got my goat, man.
But it was.
Well, for 10 grand, I'mgetting that shit too.
Yeah.
So I lost the cape, obviously,with the slippage and whatnot, but
I've got the horns.
I could pick up a cape andmount it.

(42:50):
But then to kick it all offafter that, the outfitter wanted
to pull the pin on the huntbecause he knew there was some weather
coming in.
And I said, no, fuck that.
She has deer tags and we'regoing to hunt deer now.
And we ended up spending 18days in the rain in a tent on Kodiak

(43:11):
island with no food.
And she eventually killed a.
A Sitka deer, which, by theway, is the best tasting meat that
you could probably have inNorth America.
Really?
Well, yeah, it's good.
Like, it's good enough that Iflew the meat out for myself instead
of leaving it with theoutfitters, which I don't eat deer.
So.

(43:31):
Yeah, man, you heard that right.
I don't eat.
Yeah, I don't like it.
You can mail it to me.
You know, I shoot enough mooseand elk and, and caribou and I don't
have to eat deer.
Robert.
That's one of my Alaska trips.
The other one, I shot a Kodiakthere and I got into crazy good shape

(43:54):
to do it and I ended upshooting my Kodiak like 200 yards
from my tent and never leftthe tent in five days.
Damn.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
All I see is ass right now.
I lost my train of thoughtright now.
That usually does it to you.
It does.

(44:15):
Sidetracked.
Get off.
Twist it up.
Robert.
What, what are the licensefees there for.
For non residents?
I.
A block bear and it's going tobe very similar to a whitetail.
Might be 250 bucks Canadian.
So that's.

(44:35):
I don't know, what, 140 bucksUS maybe.
Yeah, it's not, it's not bad.
No, it's not bad.
You do have to go through anoutfitter if you're not.
Yeah.
They call it a non resident alien.
So there's non re.
There's resident, which is myself.
There's non resident Canadian,which is anybody in Canada.
And then there's non residentalien, which would be anybody outside

(44:58):
of Canada.
So anybody who's outside ofCanada who wants to hunt big game
has to go through an outfitterin Manitoba.
And I think for probably formost of the provinces, to be honest,
as far as I know anyways, Ithink you can hunt deer in Ontario
over the counter as a non resident.
I pulled up the Manitoba bookfor 2024 and it looks like for a

(45:23):
non Canadian resident, it saysit's $237.25.
That's like fucking amazing.
Yeah.
Oh, that's great.
So that was for a non residentCanadian or non resident alien.
All it says right here is nonCanadian resident.
Okay.
So that.
That would be the alien.
Yep, yep.

(45:43):
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not very expensive and Ithink there's a hundred dollar allocation
fee as well that comes alongwith that.
When you go through anoutfitter, they.
Because they allocate the tagsto the outfitter.
So it's $337 US which is.
I think the dollar is like a$50 right now comparison.
So it's multiply that by 09 or0.69 and you got your number.

(46:08):
So in order for one of us fromthe States to book a hunt up there
in Canada or at leastManitoba, we have to book through
a licensed lodge or anoutfitter authorized to outfit.
I wonder, I'm curious on whythat like here in, in the States
we can just go by and over thecounter tag in a different state

(46:31):
and just go, huh, is that.
Yeah.
And I got something specificthat you have to do.
I mean obviously you have todo, but it's a reason why.
Well, yeah, it's a, it's aresource, it's a source of income.
So just like when I'm goingdown in New Mexico for the most,
and I'm not going to say youhave to, but for the most part you're
going through an outfitter.

(46:51):
For a lot of the areas down inthe states, you have to go through
an outfitter.
For me to go to Alaska, I haveto go through an outfitter.
It's the same thing.
It's just a way for theprovince or the region to make money
off of their renewable resources.
That's all it is.
Now, do they offer basicallynon guided guided hunts outfitters,

(47:13):
do they offer that or is that.
No, no, you.
In Manitoba, I can only speakfor Manitoba, but in Manitoba I legally
have to take you to what'scalled trails end.
So jump in my truck from thecamp, you can, we can drive down
the highway together.
And if that trail that leavesthe highway is your, your walking

(47:34):
path to your tree stand, I canleave you at the side of the highway.
But if it is a gravel road, Ihave to take you down that gravel
road.
They don't want non residentswalking the earth here for whatever
reason.
So yeah, you have to bedropped off basically at your tree
stand and picked up from yourtree stand.
Okay, gotcha.
Michael's got a question for you.

(47:56):
He asks, what's your gun lawsup there?
They're not as bad as you guys think.
You know, we up until, let'ssee, there's multiple levels to this.
So you know, we're not allowedto have things like machine guns.
We have a long laundry list ofprohibited weapons.

(48:17):
Now, especially with the lastgovernment that's in power, they
used Covid to ban a whole lotof weapons in Canada.
And they were able to do thatbecause when Covid hit, they put
Canada in a state of emergency.
And when they were able to dothat, they are basically allowed
to write their own lawswithout a vote.

(48:39):
And as soon as the Liberalgovernment did the state of emergency,
the next thing they did waspush their gun ban through.
So they banned pistols.
What?
So I own pistols.
I'm allowed to own pistols.
I can take them to and fromthe gun range.
And that's pretty much it.

(49:02):
Now I can't sell a pistol to afriend of mine, I can't buy a pistol
off him.
I can't buy another pistol inCanada to date, ever.
And if I die, that pistol gets destroyed.
It can't be handed down to my kids.
So because I had it prior, I'm grandfathered.
But I can't do anything withit other than drive back and forth,

(49:24):
you know, a direct linebasically to the gun range.
The rifles.
If you're buying a normalstyle hunting rifle, you can get
away with anything.
Like, so you're basically.
You, you guys are banned forAR platform style rifles.
Yeah, but, yeah, but this is.
Okay, this is, this is asniper rifle for the, the Canadian

(49:46):
military.
It's called the PGW timberwolf.
Nice.
It's chambered in a.338 Lapua.
This is what I use for deerhunting, by the way.
And there's nothing wrong withowning this gun because technically
it's the same as a.270 boltaction or a.300 bolt action.
What they've done is they'vecome up with a rule in that gun ban

(50:10):
that you're not allowedanything over 10,000 jewels and 10,000
Jews of power is if I was toguess, maybe, oh, 7,000 foot pounds
of energy maybe.
So that clean slate wipes outthings like a.50 caliber BMG.
Okay, so not that anybody hereneeds to have that.

(50:33):
Nobody needs to have a gunlike that.
But I want one.
I actually had one orderedwhen that band was coming through
and I had to cancel my order.
But it does take away some ofthe guns.
Like, and I don't want to saythis for a fact because I don't know
the math behind it, but Ibelieve like a 416 Rigby would be
wiped out because it's too powerful.

(50:54):
But don't quote me on that.
But, but you get the idea.
There is some African stylehot firearms that we're not allowed
to have anymore.
Now you're not allowed tocarry a pistol when you're guiding?
No, really, we've never beenable to do that.
There'd be a few people thatwould have a permit if they were
in, you know, polar bearareas, stuff like that.

(51:14):
You used to be able to get apermit for that.
But you know, just like whenyou have any permit with any bunch
of civilians, there's gonna beone jackass bringing it into a bar
being an kibosh.
Right?
So, so yeah, we have, we havesome stupid rules with Firearms.

(51:35):
But if you are the averagehunter, there's, and I want, I don't
want to, I don't want topraise the fact that this gun law
is in existence because Idon't want you guys to think, oh,
he's, he's, I'm against thegun laws in general, but I'm also,
I understand that all theserifle hunts that I go on, I can buy

(51:57):
a gun and go on that hunt anddo great with it.
So it's a tough one.
I think how you fix theproblem in Canada myself, this is
my personal opinion, is don'tban the guns for people who are legally
allowed to own them.
Punish the people who aren'tallowed to have them.

(52:19):
Sure.
Oh, if I am legally allowed tohave this gun and I use this gun
to commit a crime, like aviolent crime, well then I'm done.
And if I am now done and I'mbanned from having a gun and I get
caught with another one, itthrow me in jail for 20 years.
Like I don't care, like I'mbeing an idiot now.
So, and I, I, I stand withthis kind of thing with your, with

(52:43):
your second amendment down there.
I'm not, this is a tough one.
I, I, I'm not opposed to thesecond amendment.
I, I think there needs to besome sort of guidelines with the
second amendment.
But I also think that thesecond amendment ruling for the gun
portion of it is this is yourright to have your gun, but you have

(53:04):
also have the right to losethat right.
So, you know.
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of thatway here.
Yeah.
So, yeah, with the feloniesyou have, you any kind of felony,
you're done for with guns for life.
Is that how it works there?
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't even have them inyour house.
Yeah.

(53:24):
Even if they're not yours.
They just, I got a full carry,I got a full carry concealed permit
for New York State.
I can't carry any the statutesin New York City or Albany, but I
can carry anywhere else in thestate full carry conceal.
We got a lot of nut jobs heretoo, though.
Well, and there's nut jobs everywhere.
And you know, I don't, I don'tever feel the, the need here to carry

(53:49):
a sidearm other than it'd be cool.
But you know, don't get mewrong, when I go on my northern trips,
I got my shotgun in my truckpretty much all the time because
you have no way to defendyourself and you're 400 miles from
anybody.
So, yeah, there's A shotgun.
And it's not for, you know, itmight not be for people, but it's.
Again, I would use it againstpeople, heaven forbid.

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Because if you protectyourself in Canada with a firearm,
you better have a bullet holein you some.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you're gonna get.
You're gonna get thrown in theclink even then.
So I gotta ask you thisquestion, and please don't take offense
to it, but how would you feel.
How would you feel if you wereto become our 51st state?
That's a loaded one.

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And I say it's a tough onebecause it would be beneficial for
me as a company owner.
Yep.
I.
I have friends that are in thestates that make way less money than
I do and live higher on thehog than I do by a lot.
So, you know, you guys havemore earning power and the price

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of your products are a lotcheaper than.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you know, and with thetariffs and crap and social media
and people are throwing BSknowledge out across the world out
there.
They don't read anything.
They just, oh, somebody posted this.
And they.
And they just add fuel to the fire.
But yeah, you know, a fullyequipped bass boat here.

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Well, rick, you're pushing$200,000, $180,000.
Where down there?
I could buy a fully equippedbass boat for $80,000.
So your, your buying power isa hell of a lot better.
I wouldn't like it for thefact that Canada would get swarmed
with hunters and fishermen.

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Like, it would just.
It would be crazy.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't mindyour tax dollars fixing some of our
roads.
You can't fix your own road.
We got horrible roads.
Our roads aren't that good, man.
But they tax the hell out ofus for it.
Yeah, they tax us for it.
So you think.
So you think they, they don't.
You don't pay Canadian taxes.

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We get tax.
Like, I'm pretty much.
I'm pretty much in a.
In a.
I'm somewhere in like the 46%tax bracket.
So.
Geez, basically, basically 50cents on my dollar.
Earned dollars going out the window.
Plus in Manitoba, third.
12 cents.
12 cents for every dollar Ispend gets taxed.
That doesn't include, youknow, a bottle of booze is getting

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taxed or fuels taxed really hard.
If you're a smoker, Jesus.
Like, you're paying 25 bucksplus for a pack of smokes here.
So, you know, case of a 2, 4.
A beer here is $56, I think.
Oh, yeah.
So.
And that's all tax.
Money.
And it just seems likeeverything you do, they're taxing.

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They just implemented a newcapital gains tax which, you know,
for me, I own a business.
If I sell that business and Imake $2 million off that sale, well,
I can only be tax free for thefirst 250.
And after that I think it goes up.
Don't.
It's like 60%.
Like, it's crazy.
So, yeah, we, we pay taxes.

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Yeah.
But.
Yeah, you do.
You know, Canada is also anamazing place to live.
Sure.
Provided you get away from the mess.
Like if you get out of thecity and get into and stuff like
that, it doesn't get much better.
Like I could.
It doesn't take me.
I could drive for a half anhour out of the city and not see
another person type thing.

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So that's not a bad thing.
Yeah, that's like the up herein Michigan, we call it the up.
I mean, yeah, we.
I love it up there.
It's amazing.
I basically grew up there,growing up as a kid and I just love
it up there.
It's beautiful.
It's still busy up there for me.
Yeah, it's busy up there for you.

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Yeah, the up to me is still busy.
I rode off a truck on the upcoming back from that hockey tournament
that I'm going down to.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, I hit a deer square andtook my rat out and.
Yeah.
See from our point of view,from Dave and I and most like and
Johnny as well, going up thereis like vastness of just nothing.

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You see it, you see one personbasically every 30 miles and seems
like.
Yeah, well, Robert, youshould, you should come on the trip
with me that I'm doing nextweek if you want to see vastness,
because I am.
I'm taking my truck up thewinter roads, hauling some boats
to that camp, and I'mestimating it's going to be eight

(58:35):
hours of driving on thehighway, six hours of driving on
gravel, and then probably 12hours of driving on a winter road.
So, man, and you got to bringall your own fuel and food and whatnot,
place to stay.
So, yeah, it'll be an adventure.
Before we get to a rapid firesegment here to round up for tonight's
show, we got one last questionfor you from Michael.

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Looks like he's asking howmuch is your ammo?
Well, I shoot some pretty highend stuff, so I believe a box of
like my 28 noslers, for example.
A box of 20 is 170 bucks.
Wow.
My 338 lapua, anywhere from200 to $300 for box of 20.

(59:21):
Yeah.
You know, if you get into likea 6.5 or, you know, 36, you're probably
paying 57 bucks a boxsomewhere in there.
Yeah, that's in theneighborhood here.
I pay 76 bucks a box of 20 forSierra match for my 338 lapua.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That doesn't.

(59:41):
You squeeze the trigger likewhen I say that down in.
I literally take two shots.
Do you reload at all?
I do.
I'm really busy, like, sothat's hard.
Yeah.
It takes a lot of time reloading.
I, I run a company.
I, I fish bass tournaments andwalleye tournaments.
I hunt a lot.

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I outfit, I play hockey.
I, I'm busy.
So.
So, so no.
Yeah.
And you know, back in the daywhen I used to skeet shoot, Olympic
seat shoot, I used to reloadall that.
And it got to the point whereI just started buying pallets of
shotgun shells.
It just, I just didn't havethe time.
Well, hell yeah.

(01:00:25):
We're wrap it up withtonight's show with some rapid fire
segments.
Okay.
About six, seven questions for you.
Besides hunting, I know wekind of talked about hunt hockey.
Do you have any other hobbiesor interests?
Yeah, I'm, I'm big intofishing and we have a thing here
in Manitoba.
I'm sorry, this is rapid fire,but we have a thing here where we

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chase all the differentspecies of Manitoba.
And I'm, I'm really big into that.
And the last couple years I'vegotten pretty or fairly serious with
the, the bass fishingtournaments and stuff.
So sweet.
I have a buddy that's in thebass fishing.
He loves that.
He's my go to.
If I need to know anythingabout bass fishing, I'll go right
to him.
I'm walleye and river fishing.

(01:01:07):
I'm trout.
Lake Erie.
Lake Erie.
Walleye.
I honestly, I'm, I'm, I'm with you.
Switch.
I, I, I like trout.
Trust where it's at.
Lakers, big browns, rainbows.
I agree.
100.
Yeah.
BBCs.
I go to Squatch.
Like, I like catching allfish, but we have probably the best
walleye fishery in the world.

(01:01:28):
Oh yeah.
30 minutes from my door and Ifish it a couple times.
And you know, they're catching32s, 31 inchers there right now pretty
consistently and I could givea crap.
Yeah, they're biting early nowunder the Detroit River.
We're going next month back out.

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But yeah, Mike said c bass.
Yeah.
Michael said I'm a stripedbass and porgies Porgies.
Porgies.
Porgies are like the sunfishof the ocean.
Michael, come on.
And sea bass.
Justin said we used to come upthere and when I was a kid, did a
guys trip to Lake N.

(01:02:11):
Nassing.
Lake Nassing, that must be in Ontario.
But nippus things was awesome.
Call off walleye and pikes.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm gonna guess that'sin Ontario somewhere.
By Timmons or something like that.
That would be my guess just bythe name in itself.

(01:02:32):
Yeah.
What wild game animal is onyour bucket list to hunt?
I.
I'm.
Well, I'm.
I'm chasing mountain lionright now.
I've killed one before, butfor whatever reason lately, I want
to hunt muskox.
I don't know why.
Yeah, I'm going to save all myAfrican stuff to when I'm older and
can't walk, but I'd like to doa doll sheep.

(01:02:53):
Yeah, I shoot big, big moosehere in Manitoba.
I.
I do want to go to Alaska andYukon and shoot a moose there.
But I shoot.
Well, you saw in the.
In the picture there, I.
I shoot some cranker mooselike that.
That guy there is not big.
Like, the ones downstairs are big.
So.
So, yeah, mountain caribou anddull sheep and mustox would be next

(01:03:17):
on my list.
And I kind of want to go backfor another Kodiak, because that's
fun, man.
Heck, yeah.
Yeah.
What is a wild game animal youwant to try eating?
Wild game animal that I wantto try eating.
Well, I've tried it, but I.
I want to eat my next mountainlion for sure.
Oh, okay.
Mountain lion's really good.
I heard from a couple peopleit's really, really, really good.

(01:03:39):
Really good.
What is the st.
What is the top state orprovince that you want to hunt next?
Well, since I say musko,actually, you know what?
Northwest Territories isprobably where I want to hunt next.
Mountain caribou, muskox, andprobably a moose up there or something
like that.

(01:03:59):
Doll.
Doll sheep.
Doll sheep's expensive, though.
Is it?
Yeah.
Oh, 40 grand.
Oh, what's a.
What's Kodiak?
I know.
Kodiak bear hunts are freaking ridiculous.
You know what?
I got lucky.
I.
I booked my trip with theoutfitter years and years ago, and
at the time, I think he wasselling his hunts for about 12 grand

(01:04:22):
and.
Yeah.
And he.
Holy expensive or holy cheap?
Holy cheap.
I was seeing him for 40, 50 grand.
Yeah, they're not that much,but when I.
It took me about four or fiveyears to draw and he held the price
for me, so.
I.
I shot my Kodiak for 12, 500bucks, I believe.
Holy.

(01:04:43):
I think the tag was fourgrand, though.
The tag was really?
Yeah.
All right.
You get a family member and anon family member.
All right.
I, I thought about this one.
I thought about this one before.
You're asking the question.
So a family member.
My dad passed away when I wason a moose hunt a couple years back,
so I'd like to.
I'd like to hunt with him again.

(01:05:04):
And then I lost two reallygood friends who I hunt with.
So one fellow's Eric Crook.
He's from the Michigan area there.
And there's a Manitoba legendby the name of Randy Bean who passed
away from cancer last year.
And he is, he.
He's a hell of a man to be around.
So I'd like to hunt with him again.
That's awesome.
That's cool, man.

(01:05:25):
That's really cool.
Nice.
Michael says from, for his nonfamily member, it'd be Donald Trump.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Michael, I'm gonna give yousome advice.
If you're gonna hunt withsomebody, make sure they could pack
out their meat.
Yeah.
Justin wants Joe Biden.

(01:05:49):
I do a lot of my moose huntingwith that girl that posted on here,
Stephanie.
And my knees are shot from hockey.
So when I shoot moose or whenshe shoots a moose or caribou, she
carries every ounce of meatout of the woods for us.
Wow.
Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah, there's, there's.

(01:06:10):
If you look at our socialmedia page, there's her carrying
quarters and moose out whileI'm just standing there.
Last question here.
How do you think we, as fellowhunters can improve, could or should
improve the hunting community?
Well, yeah, that's a tough one.
I'm going to answer that forManitoba alone.

(01:06:30):
So Manitoba has two groups of hunters.
They have white hunters andthen they have the indigenous hunters
here in Manitoba.
And if you go extremely farnorth, the indigenous hunters are
really respectful of the landand, and whatnot.
The issue that we're seeinghere in our province is the, the

(01:06:51):
ease of equipment.
Now with indigenous hunters,they don't have any.
When I say they don't have anyrules, there is some, some rules,
but they don't have licensefees, which is fine.
They don't really technicallyhave seasons.
They could hunt whenever they like.
And I just feel that it'sbeing taken advantage of really bad.
And it's not so much that it'staking advantage of the olden days

(01:07:15):
was the land will provide.
Well, unfortunately, ourpopulation and the equipment of that
we're using nowadays, it'sjust not the case.
So we need to.
We need to find a way to meetin the middle somewhere and, you
know, honor their.
Their treaties and whatnotthat they have here in.
In Canada and still notslaughter our animals type thing

(01:07:36):
work together.
But it's.
That's a.
That's a real big topic, butit's a problem here.
Well, Robert, I just wanted to say.
Excuse me.
Thank you so much, man, forcoming on our show.
Man, I got tickled.
What the just happened there?
That's what happened to me before.
Yeah, me too.

(01:07:57):
Before you.
Before you go.
We talked about something inour little preview meeting here.
So I'm gonna.
I'm gonna take you for a walkhere before you cut me out.
That's right.
I got.
We gotta see this.
So right now, listening to theaudio version, he's taking us downstairs
to his.
I'm just gonna call it trophy room.
Well, I don't know if I'mgonna be able to flip this phone

(01:08:18):
on here.
Can I do that?
I don't know if you can.
Okay, we'll do it.
We'll do it differently.
So I said downstairs orupstairs that we have the ones that
didn't make the cut.
So there's a.
There's a Booner there.
This one here, this one'sactually a buck that my dad shot.
Wow.
Wow.

(01:08:39):
He's pretty awesome.
Yeah.
And up there you got atremendous 4x4.
He's.
I honestly, I can't rememberwhat he scored, but he's in.
He's in the high 150s.
He's a great 4x4.
There's a 57 inch bull mooseup there.
Yeah.
And awesome.
This one here is kind of funky.

(01:09:01):
And he didn't actually make book.
And he's huge.
Yeah, he's got a lot of mass.
Yeah, he's got the webbing.
And then this one has 202inches of horn on him.
Wow.
So he's.
He's.
That's my pride and joy right there.
Yeah.
Up until I shot this guy here,which I just threw on the couch.

(01:09:22):
He's like 64 inches wide.
He makes Boone and Crocketthere in North Manitoba.
He was number two in theprovince when I shot him that year.
Yeah, he's pretty.
Pretty cool.
And then if you look up here,you like this?
If you look.
So I've got the.
How do I do that?
There's a deer up there andthere's a moose here.
And there's a void here.

(01:09:44):
Yeah, that's my 173 that felloff the wall.
Oh yeah, he's downstairs.
He's broken.
Oh my gosh.
That's.
And when that happened, yougotta get fixed.
Yeah.
When that happened, mygirlfriend was home alone and it
happened in the middle of thenight, so.
Oh, I'm sure she was not in person.

(01:10:05):
Out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Reaching for your 338.
Yeah.
There you go.
Well, thanks for that tour, man.
You just.
Amazing freaking work, man.
And then you got.
You know, I've got a cabin aswell that looks just like this.
And then I've got my shop thathas all my elk and caribou antlers

(01:10:31):
up in there.
And I even got some in myoffice now too.
So that's awesome.
I need more pieces to hang things.
Robert, thank you so much fortaking us a tour of your house and
your.
Your collection of deer there.
Amazing work, man.
That's awesome.
For people that want to reachout to you and follow along your
journey.
How can they do that, man?

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If you look at.
Well, you can just search meon Facebook.
Pretty much everything goes on Facebook.
Just Robert Carpiac with a K.
And then my outfitting companyis Target Species Outfitting here
in Manitoba.
So targetspecies.com and youcan, you can book a hunt if you like.
But we're pretty much sold out indefinitely.
So.

(01:11:12):
Wow.
Like we.
We have.
We only take six guys out.
I wanna, you know, just likethe fellow that you had, I think
his bogan, I believe from bc.
Yeah.
You know, he.
He and I are very similar in.
In the fact that I have aregion, it produces tremendous animals

(01:11:32):
and 600 square miles.
And I'm only taking six bearsout of there a year.
Everybody has an opportunityat pretty much a 375 pound plus bear
every spring.
So I kind of want to keep itthat way.
So I don't want to shoot it out.
So six is where I'm keeping it.
If I want more tags, I'll buya different region.
There you go.
There you go.

(01:11:52):
Simple as that.
Dave, how can people reach outto you?
Excuse me, I'm on all thesocial media.
I'm on of course WhitetailAdvantage, Facebook, Instagram and
of course on YouTube.
And also like to do a shoutout to Xop for coming on.
And yeah, man, PSE archery as well.

(01:12:16):
So Squatch, how about you, man?
All right, I'm gonna do it alittle bit backwards.
You find me in my YouTubechannel outdoors and more with the
Squatch, of course onInstagram under the same title.
You guys all know you can findme here 8 30s on Sundays and Tuesdays
with Brett and good old Daveand good old Johnny and Mr.
Bovin.

(01:12:36):
And you can also catch me onthe Garden State Outdoorsman with
Mike Nitray and Frank Mystica.
I'm looking forward to aspecial day that we got coming up
with the Boondocks.
I'm just going to leave it at that.
Well, thank you guys forcoming on the show.
Robert, thank you for comingon the show, man.

(01:12:56):
Greatly appreciate it, man.
Yeah, it was awesome, bud.
Very.
That's awesome.
Have a great rest of yournight, guys.
Good night.
See ya.
Oh man.
Thank you, Robert, for comingon the show.
We greatly appreciate it.
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