Ep 159 / Your Thoughts, Our Mics: Join the Whitetail Advantage Call-In!

Tonight, we opened the phone lines and let our listeners take the reins, diving into whatever topics they wanted to discuss. From hunting tales to the heat of summer, we had a blast chatting with folks like Justin and Frank, who shared their outdoor adventures and even some good-natured banter about the upcoming hunting season. We tackled everything from personal anecdotes to a few lighthearted rants about public land and the state of hunting regulations. And trust me, with Squatch, Johnny, and me on the mic, you know there’s never a dull moment! So grab your favorite drink, kick back, and join us for a lively conversation that covers all the bases—unless you're a deer, then maybe just stay in the woods.

What a lively episode we had, opening the phone lines and letting our listeners jump in on the conversation! Starting the night with a casual chat among us, we quickly transitioned into a delightful mix of stories and advice from callers who share our passion for the outdoors. Justin kicked things off with his thoughts on hunting, and from there, it was a rollercoaster of experiences, tips, and plenty of laughter. Each caller brought their unique flavor to the mix, whether sharing a light-hearted hunting mishap or discussing strategies for the upcoming season.

As we navigated through various topics, from the joys of fishing to the excitement of the approaching hunting season, the camaraderie was palpable. We even found ourselves in a few hilarious rants about the quirks of hunting culture and the current state of public access to lands. The blend of serious talk and witty banter kept the atmosphere light and engaging, making it feel like a gathering of friends rather than just a podcast.

By the end of the show, we all agreed that the connection with our listeners was what made the night special. Hearing their stories and sharing our own created a sense of community that we cherish deeply. It’s always a reminder of why we do this – to share our love for hunting and the outdoors with others who feel the same way. So, if you missed out, make sure to catch our next episode where you can join in on the fun!

Takeaways:

• In this episode, we opened the phone lines for callers to share their thoughts and stories, making the show feel more interactive and fun.
• One caller shared their excitement about hunting in New Jersey, highlighting the state's hidden gem status for outdoor activities.
• We made some playful jabs about hunting skills, with some humorous banter about past trivia night performances and who really knows their stuff.
• The discussion included a rant about public land being sold off, emphasizing the importance of protecting these spaces for future generations.
• Our casual yet spirited dialogue led to a range of topics, from hunting tips to personal anecdotes, keeping the vibe light and engaging.
• Listeners were encouraged to join in, share their experiences, and participate in upcoming trivia nights, fostering a sense of community among outdoor enthusiasts.

Episode Transcript

(00:02):
Welcome to the WhitetailAdvantage podcast with.
Your host, Brett Bovin.
Thank you for tuning in andenjoy the show.
What is up, everybody?

(00:24):
What's up, ladies?
Going on, everybody.
Oh, it's episode 159.
It is June 22nd.
Sunday, June 22nd.
Not to mention it's hot asballs outside.
Not to mention we're gettingcloser season, dude.
Three and a half months.

(00:44):
I can't stand this heat, man.
Hey, Justin, our good followerJustin's on already, I see in the
comments.
Hi, Justin.
What up, Justin?
Justin, call us.
Way to be on time.
Yeah, I'll put the number in a second.
Yeah, bonus points for Justinfor showing up on time.
A couple things though.

(01:06):
10 ring news.
Huh?
Shut the up.
Put a dick back in your mouth.
Where was I?
Yeah, 10 ring news.
Like I said last week, wedon't have a live show coming up
this Tuesday or the Tuesday afternoon.
I think the Tuesday after thatone too.
We have tonight's live show.
We have next week's show.

(01:27):
It's a trivia night.
It's between us FirstBoondocks Hunting.
And it's also a team likeSquatch is coming up with those questions.
So it's gonna be squat.
It's gonna be Johnny, me andDave though.
We're all gonna be battlingeach other in the same thing.
And there are some otherthings but I can't remember.
So I don't know if David'sgonna be on.

(01:47):
I hope so.
Oh, that's right.
So he might not be here though.
Either way, it's still goingto be a competition between at least
Johnny and I.
Personally, yeah, I'm neutralbecause I have to host and come up
with the questions and yeah,do all that fun stuff.
So it's between you guys.
What's up?
Frank's on nice and early.
Frank, you get bonus pointstoo for showing up early.

(02:10):
My man.
Hi, Frank.
Oh my gosh.
Dude, Squatch, you drip.
Are you sipping on Tippy Cow?
No, dude.
It's a freaking peanut butterchocolate milkshake.
You know, I was thinking, whatif nobody wants to call into the
show and then we just gottafigure out what the we want to talk
about.
No.
You know what we need to do?
We play 21 questions.
Johnny, what's your favorite color?

(02:32):
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
What's your favorite color?
That's John's favorite color.
Blood.
That's right.
What are you saying?
I'm being stereo.
Really matter what he was saying?
I mean, it doesn't matter.
I wish he'd just mute himselfI wish you'd.
I'm not gonna say it.
I'm gonna say it.

(02:53):
Let's try to be.
Hey, we're almost done withthis gay month, okay?
Oh, dude, I can't wait.
You know what sucks is thatthe founder of this country, George
Washington, it's one day, andhe doesn't even get a full day to
himself.
He has to share all the otherpresidents, right?

(03:13):
Yeah, but yet maybe if youblew a dude, he would have an entire
month.
You probably get the whole year.
He did have wooden teeth.
So you have Veterans Day, right?
You'd sign up for the military.
You give your time andservice, you get one day.
Memorial Day, right?

(03:34):
You die for this country, youget one day.
That's it.
One day.
You like the sun, Dick?
You got a whole month.
Let's go.
It's so backwards.
Well, that.
That's just.
That's my rant.
I've got beer and whiskey, sothere's gonna be lots of rants tonight,
man.
Yes.
Join Johnny as he inebriateshis liver.

(03:56):
To no extent.
Oh, man.
Nah, it's just training, dude.
It's training for deer camp.
That's good.
Never a day off.
Yep.
I'm looking forward to your camp.
Anyways, tonight is calling night.
If people want to call intothe show, we'll give them.
If people.
If they have somebody on theline and someone comes on the show

(04:16):
and they say they want to comeon, put a message, like in the comments
or section or text me ormessage us.
Message me on something, andthen we'll kind of wrap it up with
that person.
Why don't we call people?
Just put it in the freaking comments.
Hey, I want to call in andthen call in.
Yeah.
If you want to call in, put inthe comments.
There you go.
Remember, it's 269S716, Brett Lowe's.

(04:38):
Well, I won't say it.
Oh, 6, 44.
That's my waist size.
So there you go.
Yeah.
All right.
Hey, what's worse than it.
A girl running with the scissors?
What?
Two girls scissoring with the runs.
Oh, that's okay.
That's.
Oh, man.

(04:59):
Dude, Justin, call in.
Justin's gonna call in.
We'll get her done.
Justin talk to you?
Come on.
The whole month.
He does, too, man.
You see that in the comments?
Here, I'll post it up for you.
I love it.
There we go.
I like my month.
Rick gets a whole month.
Yeah, that's what golfing willdo to you.

(05:21):
Oh, man.
Golf is off limits.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Oh, Brett, look, you haveanother wife laughing at you.
My life left.
Oh, man.
So how's your guys week going?
Dude, I know we're stuck in this.
Mine.
Majorly sucked because we werepaving, but it wasn't really balls

(05:42):
hot, so that was good.
And this one.
Hello?
Done.
Are they there?
Hang on.
Brett, you ain't got this down yet?
Hello?
What's up, fellas?
There you go.
Sorry, I had the volume buttonon my panel down.
Can you hear us?
Who is this?
Justin?

(06:03):
Yep.
Yeah, it's Justin.
Oh, it's.
Nice voice.
He's got a nice voice.
Hi, Justin.
Now, that was a little gay.
All right.
That's why I did it like that.
Brett was supposed to be.
Justin.
What's up, my man?
What do you want to talkabout, brother?
Oh, I don't know.
What.

(06:23):
What you guys got in storetonight, man?
Hunting.
I love hunting, man.
Yo, man.
Fishing.
All outdoors.
Let's do it.
Tell us about hunting.
Yeah.
What do you want to talk about?
Something on your mind youwant to talk about that we haven't
talked about on the show yet?
Yeah.
Story you want to share with us?
What do you want to.
What do you want to talkabout, brother?
Maybe.
Maybe ask.
I don't know.

(06:45):
What's that?
No, I was gonna say have oneof us removed off the show that you
don't like one of us or something.
You know, whatever you want tobring up.
It's easy.
No, you guys are awesome, man.
You guys are awesome.
Thanks.
Love this, man.
Not.
Not many.
Not.
Not too many podcasts like this.
We.
We should have a.
Like a Survivor episode wherepeople can call in and vote people

(07:07):
off and the last man standingwins the trophy, right?
Oh, yeah, that'd be sweet.
So just about halfway throughthe show.
Where are you calling from?
Are you there?
So I'm from Indiana.
Martinsville.
It's like Central SouthCentral, Just about a half hour below

(07:28):
Indianapolis.
Nice.
Nice.
Yeah, that's not that bad.
No, I'm like.
I got.
Oh, it's.
It's perfect for, like,hunting, man, because we got Hoosier
National, Morgan Monroe,Riviana Forestry, which is like two
minutes from my house.
Not a lot.
It's a couple thousand acres,but still.

(07:49):
Still nice to go hit up.
Yeah, I'm question for you.
Since you're in Indiana, areyou a big college football guy or.
No?
I mean, I.
Look, I.
I wouldn't say I'm like,hardcore, but I'm a big Irish fan.
There we go.
That's my answer.
That's what I was Looking for.
Yeah.
Good talking.

(08:10):
We will talk to you guys later.
All right, later, Johnny.
No, no, I mean, I'm not like.
I'm not like a die hard sports guy.
I, I played sports as a kidand stuff, but.
And Johnny's gone.
I kn.
Go that quick.
I'd have been Irish allearlier, man.

(08:33):
I'm never true.
Oh yeah, but no, yeah, I mean,I'm somewhat sports, but I'm more
of a man.
If I can be in the woods or,you know, I'm, I'm there.
And I got a, I got a prettycool wife where she, she understands
well, she knows we've beentogether 20 years, so she, she used

(08:55):
to.
Not, I, I don't know.
Her dad's a hunter, so she waskind of used to it, but not as hardcore
as I am, so.
Yeah, right.
I got fortunate enough.
I told my wife, she, she grewup in the outdoor world and her father
was a Marine.
Her brother is a Marine as well.
So she kind of got the whole,she understood the time away from

(09:17):
home aspect of it all and thenoutside with in hunting world too.
So I really lucked out with there.
And I told my wife on our veryfirst date, I said, in the fall,
you're not going to see meSunday through Friday, I'm gonna
be in the tree stand.
And on Saturdays, my ass isgonna be sitting in my chair watching
college football.
Yeah, but you forgot to saythat you're not gonna see my ass.

(09:38):
What about, what about fromlike 2 to 3?
Because you're not a morning guy.
You don't hunt mornings, Brett.
That's what I was gonna say.
He's always in the bed, isn't he?
Yeah, I'm in the.
Man.
Yeah, I don't, I'm not a bigmorning guy.
That discussion went well.
You know, Russ, you know, rutseason ain't so bad for you then

(10:00):
because, you know, you can getout there late, it's not a big deal,
you know, but early season,you got to get out there earlier.
You got, you gotta, you know,I mean, you can do some evening hunts.
They're not too bad, but.
No, get there, get there whenI can and as early as possible.
And I usually try to sit aslong as I can.
Now saddle hunting, man, I cansit all day.

(10:21):
Yeah, I, I, I'll get out inthe, in the woods in the morning,
though.
And when it comes to rut,that's when I'll get out there and
yeah.
See, like, I mean, I'm a, I,I, I'll hit the Hit it.
Mornings a lot, but, like, rut.
It's weird.
I'll sleep in a little more.
Oh, okay.
Is.
Is there a reason why, or isit just because.

(10:42):
Well, last few years, my.
I had to get my son on thebus, so that was kind of okay, you
know?
And it did screw me this yearbecause I was chasing a really nice
one.
Kind of played it easy thefirst time you come through.
Next time, I was set.
I was.
Got to my stand and tied myrope to my.
I use crossbow.

(11:02):
I know you guys knock them, but.
Hey, you know what?
Use what you use.
You're in the woods.
Exactly.
Yes, sir.
But no, I had.
I tied my rope to my damnstand or to my.
To my crossbow, and I heard something.
I look behind me, and this sonof a.
Is coming down the hill.
I turn around, and, like, he.

(11:23):
He turns, and he's like 20yards away.
I pull up, and I'm stepping onmy rope, and it's like, I can't get.
I can't get him in my sights.
I'm like.
And he.
Moses off.
It's.
It's like the ravine.
So I.
I use a can call a lot of times.
I mean, I grunt, too, but I.
And I blow into him.
Like, I don't know if you guysdo that, but.
Man, I don't like to blow dudes.

(11:43):
But I don't like to blow in.
Well, I don't blow dudes.
I blow it.
No call, but.
But no.
Yeah, so I blow in it, and heturns, and he's coming, and I was
just.
Man, I know you guys have beenthere where you just froze up, and.
Yeah, so I kind of screwedthat up.
So.
If I'd have been in the standearly, I'm sure I'd have probably

(12:05):
had a better shot at him, but,you know, that's the ones that always
get away that gets you theworst, I think, you know, so those
made for.
The best stories, too, later on.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Oh, you know what I like tolook at it as?
It's catch and release.
Like when you're bass fishing,you know?
Right.
You're just playing catch andrelease with the deer for next time,

(12:26):
you know?
True.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So.
But I'm hoping.
Hoping next year I could havegot him.
Last year, during rifleseason, I was coming out of the stand,
and he.
He.
By the time he figured outwhere I was coming and going, so
he was bedded close to the house.
People that let me hunt there.
And so I was coming out of theout of the sand.

(12:47):
And he jumped up like, 30yards from behind their house.
I wasn't gonna crack a shot,you know, because I, I don't know.
I.
Justin, you didn't want tomake the people uncomfortable, screw
up, you know, a good spot I got.
So I was like, well, maybenext year.
So, Justin, you actually saidsomething that made me think of this.
So I was, I can't.

(13:08):
I don't know where, how I gotthis, this photo, but this.
There's a quote by Barry Wensell.
He says, bow hunting is a gameof how close, not how far.
And we've had a lot of peoplecome on the show and they're like,
they talk about.
Since we're on the topic ofrut, you generally like to get, as.
In my mind, you want to be asclose as you can to the rut.
Their, their bedding area to,like, dough betting areas.

(13:30):
But not like, too close,because you're like, oh, you don't
want to freak them out.
I read Be Style, baby.
Yeah, I read that quote, and Iwas like, man, that really is true.
We always talk about, well, wedon't want to be too close to him.
We don't want to scareanything like that.
In my mind, I want to bealmost right on top of them, if.
I can, in their, in theirbedroom, man.

(13:51):
So Dan Infolt says it real good.
He says, man, you know, youcan get in there, but, I mean, you
gotta, you gotta play it in asense, because you ever walk in here
if, if somebody was in yourhouse and you walked in, you know
they're there, so you gottabe, you know, you don't get too close
in there.
But yeah, man, that's, that's,that's how to get them.
You got to get in there, intotheir bedrooms, or at least in between

(14:11):
their bedrooms and their food sources.
Hey, while we're on thatsubject, not to interrupt you, I'm
sorry, but I, I, I am doingsomething this year that I haven't
done in prior years.
In my stands, I'm makingsilhouettes of a person, and I'm
actually leaving a shirt thatI've worked in all day and setting
it in the stage.

(14:33):
Get your sin out there sothey're not uncomfortable.
Right this way.
They're kind of used to thatin there.
You know what I mean?
And if you get it in thereearly enough, if you get it in there
early enough, then, you know,you've got a better chance of them
not spooking to you.
Like, I wouldn't suggest doingit like, In September, man.
Do it.
Do it now.
Get it out there.
Put it out there.
You know, this way at leastthey're like, if they look.

(14:56):
They look up and they kind ofsense something and they're like,
huh?
You know?
But you got to go out there every.
I don't know, maybe like everyweek, depending on the weather, and
kind of switch it up, you know?
I mean.
But don't let them pattern you either.
But I'm gonna try it in onespot, man.
I want to see if it.
If it makes a difference, you know?
Yeah, I've definitely thoughtabout that because I've got.
I.
I'm mainly saddle, but I'vegot a few spots that I hunt out of

(15:17):
stands.
Like, my buddy has that golfcourse close to my house.
I hung out there, which isawesome because it's reduction zone.
So it's like September to.
Into January.
But yeah, I thought aboutsitting them out there, man.
Just because deer, they.
If they're very good aboutnoticing something that's out of.
Out of whack, you know.
Now sometimes.

(15:37):
And deer are curious, though,too, though, so.
But most.
Yeah, I definitely think thatwould work.
Stick it out there.
Get.
Get your scent going, youknow, You.
Like you said, don't do it in September.
Spook them, run them out of there.
Because then you won't seethem until December or January or
who knows when, you know?
But get them used to it, in a sense.
Yeah, but I.
I would definitely try it, man.

(15:59):
Yeah.
Worst is going to happen is itdon't work out, and then next year
you try it something different.
I've had that idea for, like,years and been talking about that
and where it's like.
Because I live in aneighborhood and I always think to
myself, you can trained deerlike cattle.
So, yeah, I look at like this.
If you're just going out thereto move trail cameras around there,

(16:19):
and you're like out there oncea month, and then you get out there
on opening day, like, for us,it's October 1st.
And you come out there October1st, and you're like, oh, what the.
Is that smell?
That's new.
And they get all freaked outand they jump around.
And with me living in aneighborhood, I got deer basically
in my backyard.
So it's like they get used to it.
So if you put, like Squatchsaid, put a silhouette out there.

(16:41):
And there actually was aproduct a couple years back, I can't
remember the name of it, butit went like, it like crash and burn.
But I.
I strongly believe that if youput Like a silhouette out there,
like a scarecrow type deal.
And put a shirt on you thatyou would wear generally on a normal
day because you're still goingto be producing that normal scent
pheromones from your actualodor from your body.

(17:03):
And you put that out there inthe woods and throughout the year
they're gonna be like, oh,okay, that's something new.
And you go out there andyou're actually out there at hunting.
That's.
They're not going to be asspooked in my opinion.
Dude, they're gonna be less jumpy.
How funny would it be to do that?
And instead of trail camera upto wash your stand and then touch.

(17:24):
I was thinking catch some DNRofficer, check it out.
Like, oh man.
Just spotted a hunter in mid,mid August and it's just some dummy
up there.
Oh yeah, that's no differentin the fall.
There's still a dummy up there.
No game Mormon.
Oh yeah.
I hunt a lot.

(17:44):
All I hunt is public land.
And what I've found is I huntright off of major hiking trails.
So I'll be in my stand becauseI saddle hunt too.
So I'm a, you know, I'll getup in a tree and I'll sit.
I'll have people watchingtheir dogs right past, you know,
30 yards to the north.

(18:05):
And I've had deer come rightout after they leave.
So yeah, there's.
They're used to that.
Absolutely.
And like you were saying, youhunt a dog horse and so do I.
In the, in west Michigan here.
And it's a 14 acre parcelthat's just pines but loaded down
with deer.
And it's awesome becausethere's slow use to people that you

(18:28):
don't have to worry aboutscent control as much.
And you can just go out thereand they'll come right to you.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I, Man, I've.
I seen.
I saw more deer at the golfcourse this year than I did anywhere
else.
It was crazy.
Like every time I sat there,you know, I saw deer weather, you
know, but I'm real and see outthere, I usually hunt with a rifle

(18:50):
because, you know, if you canuse it, why not?
But I'm real leery about wherethe shots are and a lot of times
the deer are in between.
Where like, you know, the roador houses or whatever.
So you got to wait for thatspecial shop.
But.
But yeah, man, they're.
It's crazy.
They get used to that human scent.
They're not spooked.
Like, my aunt has property inGreenwood, which is like it's like

(19:12):
a real dense, it's kind oflike a, it's just big city, I guess
you'd say.
And, but she's got a littlebit of, she's got a little bit of
woods and there's some woodsthat connect to the house.
It's like, I think most ofit's like maybe 30 acres total of
woods and the rest of it's alljust housing additions.
But man, like I'll be sittingthere and people will be walking
their dogs like you said.

(19:32):
And then two minutes, threeminutes after they go, here come
the deer.
And it's like they wait untilas soon as the people go, they come
right through.
Like they just, they're notscared, you know, they're not scared
now.
It's totally different.
Like when you're out on someprivate out or not private, some
public out in the middle ofbfe, you know, if you see a person
walking, you ain't gonnaprobably see a deer because they're

(19:52):
not used to it.
But as long as you stay onthat tra.
That path, you know, Dan Impaldoes that a lot.
I watch a lot of his stuff.
I'm a big hunt beast guy.
But he, he, he, he says, youknow, if you don't get off the path
too much or whatever, you'llbe all right.
You know, just when they, whenthey smell the scent, not normally,

(20:14):
like if you're off the path20, 30 yards, they're going to probably
smell it, you know, but if youget right off of it, you'll probably
be fine.
Yeah, and that's what I'vebeen doing like you know, the past
couple years where I'll huntright on a trail or I'll find those
like real small at two 3 acreparcels that are on the other side
of a large state land area.
And I'll hunt those smallparcels and I'll have success because

(20:37):
it's those overlooked spotsthat people don't think that, oh,
there's no deer out there.
Then everyone pushes in, youknow, they think they have to hunt
a mile in, so they'll go outthere, push all the deer out.
And I'm, I mean, I'm gettingup there in age, so I don't want
to walk out there miles and miles.
I'll hunt that little threeacre lot.

(20:59):
I don't care.
Hell yeah, you're still gonnaget deer.
It's, you know, so.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah.
I, I last few years, man, Iwas putting in the miles.
I mean, I was going deep as Icould get, man.
And it, what didn't seem likeit was producing any much more than,
you know, if you were justgetting off where you wouldn't think

(21:21):
people would be, you know.
And it seems to produce justas much so.
But I'm like a 5050 though,like half the time on public, half
time on private.
It just depends.
Like if I'm hunting withbuddies, a lot of times, I hate to
say it, I go public because Idon't, you know, there's more, more
area, more room, stuff like that.
But if I'm by myself or likemy father in law or my, my son or

(21:45):
something, we're usuallyhitting our public or I'm a privates,
I mean, you know, smaller,smaller chunks and stuff.
So I know like if I was totake bread out hunting, I would take
them to private or to publicand not the normal public that I
hunt.
Hey, don't spot.
I've seen deer out here.
Yeah, I mean I got some publicthat I hunt that I've had some nice

(22:09):
deer on lately and that,that's going to be my spot this year.
Just a little tip too.
When you're out going in,you're going in the woods further
and further and further.
When you got somebody withyou, keep that person back a ways
because a lot of times you'regoing in deep and a deer will double
back and come around and get.
Oh yeah.
So have somebody stay shallow,you know, further back where you

(22:31):
first came in because you wantto watch your six, man.
Those, those deer will doubleback on you.
Yeah, I think I watched thepodcast you guys had.
Was it at that a ditter oddbuck guy or something like that was
talking about that maybe.
Or it was one of those guys.
Yeah, maybe.
Yeah, man, I would.
Yeah, that is a good ideabecause I mean I've had that happen
before where I've jumped themout, you know, and then I've climbed

(22:53):
up and then sometimes bucks,they'll come back to that bed, you
know, or at least that area.
So.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Just.
You guys getting excited aboutthe season?
Yeah, man.
No, not at all.
I'm actually not giving up hunting.
Really?
Well, I mean, you know.
Well, you'd be able to sleep alittle more.
So Brett is going to be verybusy this year with the upcoming,

(23:17):
upcoming cosmetic line thathe's doing for Golf Cosmetics.
It's a whole new venture he's on.
So he's working on like, youknow, concealer and stuff to hide
his ginger isms that he hasgoing on.
And I'm proud of my ginger.
Yeah.
Justin, we got some otherpeople that might want.
Looks like they want to call in.

(23:38):
Is there anything last youwant to say, brother?
No.
I appreciate you guys, man.
Love the show.
Try to catch it as much as Ican here.
Lately I've been a littlebusier, but yeah, keep up the work,
guys.
And I'm gonna be in Michigannext week, so I don't know if you
guys are busy or whatever, butI might try to get with y' all.
What part of Michigan?
A little bit.
A little bit of everything.

(23:58):
I'm actually.
We go to Michigan a lot.
My wife loves it, so.
And.
But we're going to Mio or Mayoor something, which is like the northeast
side.
We're gonna.
Which is like BFE looking kind of.
There's not much.
Nothing around there, butwe're gonna hit that.
Then we're gonna hit like Mac Nack.
We're gonna go up to the up,because my wife loves rocks.

(24:19):
So we're gonna look for likeupper lights and stuff.
Oh, I did.
I've been a bunch of Euberlights here, man.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, we.
Shoot me.
Shoot me a DM on my Instagramand we'll link up for sure, brother.
Well, dude, I don't have Instagram.
I'm a.
I'm a real like.
I have his number right here,Johnny, you dumbass.

(24:39):
Okay, yeah, I'm not real hightech savvy, but yeah, get my number
and yeah, hit me up because,yeah, we're gonna be there 27th through
at least the second.
We're planning on maybe untilthe 5th.
We're staying with like my sister.
We're.
We're going all going up likemy in laws and we're gonna stay there
for like five, six days, andthen we're gonna slowly work our

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way back to Indiana, so.
Well, I don't want to hang outwith you because you called it Mackinac.
Well, we're going to Mackinac.
Well, we're going to Mackinacand Mackinac.
So Mackinac is below, right,If I'm not mistaken.
And then Mackinac is theisland, right?
No, there's no such thing as Macanac.
And then you also.

(25:20):
Is there not no such.
There's no such thing as Mackinac.
That's just another version ofcalling Mackinaw.
Really?
So, okay, yeah, there's not like.
Because I have a shirt thatsays no, no, there's.
I swear to God, there's no city.
Is it pronounced Mackinac?
It's pronounced Mackinac.
But every.
There's like no city called Mackinac.
It's like Mackinac.
That's another term.

(25:41):
Yeah.
Like a lot of northerners andUPS call Mackinac and Mackinac.
Right.
I did not know that.
Well, now you know.
So you.
I don't want to see.
I know.
You guys are.
You guys are what, South.
You guys are what, SouthwestMichigan, right?
Yeah.
I'm like.
I'm like hour and a half totwo hours away from the border.

(26:02):
Like from n.
Yeah.
Because we always.
We're.
We're what's up.
So I drove down to Terre Hoquite a bit.
Yeah.
Which is probably what, like40 minutes north of you.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you hit.
Yeah.
Go up.
Hit 70.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
And it takes me like two hoursto get there.
Maybe two and a half.

(26:24):
Yeah.
So I can be.
I ain't gonna lie.
I smoke a little weed.
So I go to.
You guys have a lot cheaper.
But anyways, so we go to Nilesor, you know, and it's like three
hour trip, so.
Yeah.
I was actually in Nilesearlier today, so.
Okay.
Yeah.
So we go.
Yeah.
Like, we go up there aboutevery November for my anniversary,
which hopefully we're gonna dosome hunting one time.

(26:46):
My wife always says we'regonna do it.
And then every year we just gorock cutting instead.
So Michael, man, he's.
I said bored, and he goes, youcross the border, Brett, you illegal.
I'm gonna call ice on you.
They're going after gingersnow, huh?
Apparently.

(27:07):
El Bandejo gingers.
Well, Michael wants me to.
Shot in a beer.
Oh, man.
43 now.
Shotgun beard.
I drink whiskey.
Geez.
All right, Justin, man.
Well, you guys.
You guys take it easy, man.
Appreciate you letting mecalling in and hopefully see you
soon.
We'll have to get togethersometime, Squatch.
I'd love to hang out with youas well, man.

(27:28):
Thank you.
I love watching your videos, man.
You got some crazy going.
So the only person on theplanet that does, then I might be.
I don't know.
But that's all right.
You know what?
One's better than none, right?
That's right.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Justin.
Appreciate it, buddy.
Well, Justin, thank you, man.
Being a fan of the show.
Thank you.
Being a part of the Brother.

(27:49):
One more thing.
Yeah.
We need to get together whenyou guys get down here for.
What is it October?
Yeah, we'll be in October.
We'll be in October down therein Indiana.
Yeah.
For like a week.
Hell yeah.
Yeah, we'll have to gettogether because.
Yeah, I'd like to.
Like to help.
If anything.
I'll help you guys drag outsome deer or something, so.
You know, I like to sound that brother.
Thank you.
Oh, yeah.

(28:09):
Have a great night, Johnny.
Have a good night.
Hell yeah.
Who's calling in next?
Yeah, I know there's someother people there.
Let me put the phone numberback up there.
Why don't you just keep it up?
Well, I don't want someone tolike, accidentally call in while
we have someone on the line.
I see.
Brett can keep it up.

(28:30):
Oh.
Sorry.
So for you guys listening athome, Brett just flipped me off.
That wasn't very nice.
Brett, I want you tostraighten up.
Oh, we got no caller ID here.
This is scary.
Oh.

(28:53):
Hello?
Hey, you telling me groom, whowe got online here?
Hello?
Hello?
Dude, Brett, you scared themaway, man.
They hung up.
No, they're there.
It's Jamal.
Is it Jamal?
Oh, Jamal, we have someoneelse on the flying here.

(29:14):
That person hung up.
Who?
Who we got on the line here.
Oh, crap.
Hang on, Hang on.
Can you hear us?
Hey, thank you.
We got on the phone here.
What's up?
It's Frank.
What's going on, boys?
It's the Broadside Ambush Massacre.
What's up, buddy?
What's up, man?
I hope this is the.

(29:35):
The.
The number for Brett's only fans.
No, I'll send you that one afterwards.
No, you got mistaken.
You're just Brett's only fan.
Oh, my God.
Just like Justin, boys.
Just like Justin's my only fan.
You know, he wants to hang outwith the old squats.

(29:56):
So, you know.
Yep.
What are you doing, Frankie?
How's things in.
In the big nj, man?
Busier.
In hell with the family, man.
I haven't gotten out to dojack yet, man.
I haven't hung trail cameras,nothing, man.
What about you guys?
You lazy?

(30:17):
Tell me about it.
Jeez.
Excuses, excuses.
What do we say?
No excuses.
Just hunt.
Yeah.
Where do you think you hearthat from?
I'm the one that made it.
That right there, I canactually contest that.
Frank does get up early anddoes make it to the woods, unlike

(30:38):
somebody else.
I won't name any name.
You can get up.
You can get up early in the.
In the morning and then go outto the woods.
And there's a differencebetween going on the woods and hunting.
Going out in the woods andjust going to sleep.
So.
There was one time I wasclimbing into the stand.
It's like 5:30 in the morning.
I'm up there I'm saddlehunting and my phone drops because

(31:01):
I have it on the mount.
You know, I drop it.
I'm like, yeah, it's fine.
I'm not going to climb all theway down and get it.
Squatch and Dave are justblowing up my phone and I'm like,
oh, it's on silent.
It's good.
No, it wasn't, man.
It's.
I had to go all the way downand it's like.

(31:22):
Did see some odd missedmessages from only Squatch and Dave
and no Brit.
And that's like opening week.
Time out, time out, time out,time out, time out, time out.
Michael, you know he getspissed when you don't answer his

(31:43):
first message.
He puts in the next one in all caps.
I got something to say.
Yeah, I know.
I see that.
Here's his thing.
He's.
He sent a comment asking whatdo bungee jumpers and gay guys have
in common?
They both use rubbers.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't both know, Brett.

(32:04):
I don't know.
Yeah, if the rubber breaks,they both are in deep.
Oh, that's nice.
All right, all right.
Okay.
Why does a 14 year old know that?
No, no, he's 15.
Get it?
You better get right or he'sgonna get mad at you.
He's 15.
He's 15 and he used to work.

(32:24):
He used the F word.
This is a PG13 show.
Michael used like terminology.
I'm gonna take the belt to you.
When I see you, I'm gonnawhoop you.
I'm gonna whoop the crap outof you for cursing.
Yeah, cursing is a sign ofweak intelligence and a weaker character.
You.
Yeah, little bag.

(32:44):
So learn to stop guessing.
Wonder where he gets it from.
No kidding.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Any curseness is not too.
Really?
I just told you, Michael.
I'm gonna wash his mouth outwith soap.
That's it.
That's little Brett.

(33:05):
Geez, I'm so sorry.
You're not teaching them rightif you're saying that.
No, you're right.
I apologize.
I need to set a better example.
Smart enough, Brett.
Smart enough.
I will do my best to shapingup this beeping phrase, terminology,
verbiage that I use.
Frank, what do you.
Is there any.
What do you want to say, Justin?
I mean, Johnny.

(33:25):
Yeah, I was just say, you wantme to clean up the show right now?
Here we go.
All right, what is going on, guys?
For those listening, I justremoved Brett from the stage.
So I.
I'll bring them back justlike, you know.
One man's trash is anotherman's treasure.
Bring him.
Here's our trash.
Bring him back on the otherview, though.
What's up, Brett?

(33:46):
The lower front.
It just got canceled, right?
Yeah.
You ginger son of a.
Frank, is.
There anything that you wantto talk about in specific?
Anything like that you haven'tseen on the show?
Anything that's been bugging you?
Something on your mind or youjust want to talk to.
No, I just.
I just wanted to see.

(34:06):
I just basically talk to.
But I want to see whatever wethink about this, about this public
land where they're trying tosell it and all that.
What's your guys thought andall that.
Oh, like out west type deal.
Yeah, yeah.
They're trying to sell it for,like, companies and projects and
stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, all that stupid.

(34:28):
I think it's a lot of.
In my opinion, if it happensout there, it's just gonna be a snowball
effect and it's gonna hitevery single state, and we're all
gonna.
I mean, yes, we already lookat it like this.
Let's just take Detroit, for example.
No, you know what?
That.

(34:48):
Let's.
We got Kalamazoo.
Kalamazoo here in the backyard.
Kalamazoo.
There's so many empty lots,abandoned buildings, a lot of places
there that are just basicallygraveyard places.
And why people?
Why these companies?
I'm just gonna say companiesin general because I don't know all
the term, the details of it,but a lot of these major companies
and places are buying uppublic land to build, whatever the

(35:11):
case may be, just large intheir horizon, whatever it may be.
You have a lot of theseabandoned places, and you can't even
start there.
I mean, this is just off thetop of my head, just spitballing
here.
I think to.
You need to start off inplaces like that.
You can rebuild a city, youcan build.
Rebuild the economy in that area.
And just to go out there andbuy land, tear it all down, and then

(35:36):
you're causing so manyecological problems out there, that's
just.
It's just a nightmare.
Well, it's because I agree.
You're talking aboutKalamazoo, for instance.
Right.
And for everyone listening,Kalamazoo is a.
No, I'm not.
Yeah.
I'm saying just in general,though, like, just start off at a
city and just build up from there.

(35:56):
Nobody wants to go to the city.
Everyone wants to have thoseglamming, glam camping experiences
and all that.
So they want to get a place.
You know, they'll buy athousand acres of public Put a, you
know, a condo or casino orsomething on it, and.
But they'll.
They'll pitch the whole it's.

(36:17):
It's you're submerged innature type event, and then they
take that nature and it justover for the rest of us.
Yeah.
Yep.
I mean, a great example wouldbe like anything from that show,
that TV show Yellowstone.
I hate related real life toTV, but that's exactly it.

(36:40):
100.
Yeah.
So, Frank, you're not learningany trail cameras yet, brother?
No, I haven't got.
I haven't done nothing yet, man.
It's.
It's sad, bro.
Usually I'm on it already, butI haven't done jack.
I'm hoping within the next,like, week or two to get out there,
start.
Start checking stuff out, likeI said.

(37:00):
I mean, I got, you know, myone buddy.
I've been hunting his place,and that's basically all private.
So, you know, over there.
I just.
I just started hunting it lastyear, and I did pretty good.
So, like, I still want toreally go into depth and check it
out because I was justlearning, like, the bedding areas
and what they're doing.
Especially, like, I learned alot from hunting the rut last year

(37:23):
of what they're doing because,you know, it was different from what,
you know, from what I had in mind.
But, you know, I think I.
I think I got them figured out.
As long as they don't me over,which I'm sure they will.
Oh, dude, they're good atthat, man.
For sure.
Yeah.
I mean, especially, like forbear season two over there.
Like, it's really good.

(37:44):
So I want to get in there andstart bait and actually really early.
Like, I.
I already have a spot in mindthat I'm gonna start early, then
kind of start backing off asthe season starts coming in because
there's a big.
Over there.
He was like 550 last year.
We figured.
Squats.
Yeah, squats.
Saw the picture.
We named him Jelly Roll.

(38:06):
So nobody got him.
So old Jelly Roll, we.
Tomorrow, we.
I'll find out if I get my beartag because here in Michigan, it's
a.
It's a draw system.
So I put in and I'll find outtomorrow morning if I drew for a
bear or not.
And, well, if you do, let.
Let me know, brother, if youget it.

(38:27):
Oh, for sure, man.
I've seen Johnny's drawings.
They're not that good.
I don't think he's gonna get it.
I just want to take a secondto go back to this public land being
sold off.
I just looked up this articlefrom NPR News Colorado Stories called
the title that's what to Knowabout the GOP Plan to Sell Western

(38:50):
Public Land.
Just the first, like coupleparagraphs on it.
Republicans in Congress areagain pushing to sell off millions
of acres of public land aspart of the GOP's tax cut and spending
bill.
A draft budget from the SenateCommittee on Energy and Natural Resources,
led by Senator Mike Lee,Republican from Utah, calls for the

(39:11):
Bureau of Land management, BLMand US Forest Service to sell between
2 and 3 million acres over thenext five years.
Land in every western stateexcept Montana would be eligible
for sale under this proposal.
We're opening, he goes on thequote, we're opening underused federal
land to expand housing,support local development and get

(39:33):
Washington, D.C.
out of the way of communitiesthat are just trying to grow.
Lee said in a videoannouncement said a similar land
sale idea previously failed inthe US House of Representatives.
Facing opposition fromenvironmental groups and some Republicans,
the version released by theSenate involves far more land in

(39:54):
more states.
Senator Martin Henrich,Democrat from New Mexico, the top
Democrat on the committee,accused Republicans of, quote, taking
a sledgehammer to publiclands, warning that sales would reduce
public access and hurt local economies.
There goes the state.
Basically that's the end of it.

(40:14):
I'm not going to read anymore.
But if it's just for housing,I mean, like I just said, abandoned
places in any city you can go to.
And it's just, I, I don'tknow, is there something behind this
that I'm not seeing more stillto it?
I can't.
Yeah, but there's gotta belocation, man.

(40:34):
Location, location, location.
They did that naturalenvironment, then they, they have
a fresh slate to up.
Well, if you also look at itwhen, when I'm trying to blank on
his name right now, Elon Muskwas in there and he found all this
tax, all this money spendingin place.
And I basically call it themoney laundering problem.

(40:57):
And now they're trying to findways to get money back in their pocket.
You're talking about Doge.
Yeah, Doge.
They, he basically uncovered,like look at all this money that
the government spent and thatyou don't know about.
Now they're trying to findways to recoup all that money.
I mean, look at all these, allthese people that went into office.
What's that lady from Nancy Pelosi?

(41:19):
You go into office and I don'tknow, it's like a, I don't know,
$100,000 job and you come outa billionaire.
How the that possible getricher and.
The poorer get poorer, my man.
That's how it always goes.
Yep, yep, exactly.
You know, it's not fair.
Why did he need so much money?
Why are they in a predicamentthat what Teddy Roosevelt, you know,

(41:43):
work so freaking hard for?
Why do they want to destroy that?
It's.
It seems like anything thathas to do with history know, this
really getting me cussing now,it really aggravates the hell out
of me because, you know, thisis what this found, that this country
is founded on having placeswhere when you enjoy something in

(42:03):
your generation, the nextgeneration that you handed down,
that tradition can go to thosesame places and enjoy the same pieces
of land.
So, you know.
Yeah, it's.
It's just ridiculous, man.
You know, it's like, I don'tget it.
I don't.
I.
I don't.
I know.
It's all about money, youknow, and.
And it's like, oh, let's just.

(42:24):
They just always keep grabbingand grabbing and grabbing till there's
nothing left, you know, andlet me tell you something.
If it was something like,let's say pride month or it was something
like, you know, granolafreaking tree huggers going out and,
you know, we're puttingbicycle trails up this and that,
they all get together andfreaking fight.
But here we are, we're theseguys on podcasts.

(42:44):
We sit here, you know, weabout it till we're blue in the face.
How many of you guys arereally paying attention to.
How many of you guys arereally calling Congress and bitching
to these people that this ishorseshit and it's got to stop.
Honestly, though, I don'tthink calling is the pro is the solution.
I think actually going thereand telling.
Them, like, listen, you know,it's just.

(43:04):
I agree with you.
Something needs to change.
This is.
This is.
I agree.
They protest for everything else.
They protect people.
You know, they go out in thestreets and they're bitching about
stuff in.
In, you know, like.
No kings.
No.
Yeah, no kings.
Exactly.
Right.
Okay.
Save that for chess.
You know, don't.
Don't put that stuff in real life.
It's ridiculous.

(43:24):
Trump never proclaimed himselfa king, first of all.
Second, these people, when youask them what their legitimate is,
they don't have an answer.
They can't even give you areason why.
They're just there.
Oh, Sally is all pissed off.
So I'm jumping on Sally'sbandwagon and I'm gonna go out there
and throw stuff at him.
Well, you know, that Most ofthose people that go to those places

(43:48):
are.
Are paid.
Like Johnny, remember back inKalamazoo when they had the, like
those Black Lives Mattermovements and a lot of those down
there and, and especially upin Grand Rapids.
I don't know if it.
It happened in Kalamazoo, butI know a lot of people in Grand Rapids,
they went there and they'repaid just to cause chaos.

(44:10):
Yeah.
So this was back when BlackLives Matter was like really rampant,
back when George Floyd died.
And this was like really goingon back around covet time.
And come to find out, a lot ofthese protests that were going on
in the city.
I'm just going to use Grand Rapids.
But it was happening here inKalamazoo, not as bad.

(44:31):
But in Grand Rapids, they found.
They were.
Found out that people werepaid them to go there just to cause
chaos and destroy.
So you think.
Let's just say 1 out of 10people that go these things are actually
there probably for legitreasons, like they're against it.
The other nine most, like,they're paid.

(44:52):
Yeah, yeah.
I know.
It's just that it aggravates,you know.
No, it is.
Yeah.
I'm.
So this is a topic that I cango on and on because I can't stand
half of this.
And like I said, everyone thatlistens to the show, that watches
the show, that they know whatthey're going to get out of us, it's

(45:14):
unpolitically correct.
We're going to speak our minds.
We're going to speak the truththat we see it and speak how we freely
want to.
So everyone else can go off ifyou don't like it and we don't give
a.
But things need to change.
The truth needs to be talkedabout and things need to be fixed
on so many levels.
I know this was your originalquestion there, Frank, was the.

(45:36):
The.
The public land, but in mymind, it kind of.
It all correlates in somehow.
No, it all.
Yeah, it's all the same.
Yep.
Yeah.
Either way, it's.
Maybe it's just this Pridestupid month that's got me all heat
up about it and I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, also everyone that'slistening though, Frank is going

(45:57):
to be on the show next weekrepresenting Boondocks Hunting when
we have our trivia night.
So before we let you go,Frank, because I think we got time
for one more caller tonight.
How do you think we're gonna do.
You're gonna.
I don't give a.
If you get offended out there.
I don't give A.
Hey, just so you know, Frank,you didn't do well.

(46:17):
Brett is just being Brett.
So we gotta remember the dumbquestions that he had last time.
Now that I'm gonna bring himon and pretend he didn't hear any
of this.
Hey, Brett.
What's up, brother?
I'm not the one coming up withthese questions.
It's Squatch's deal.
My questions are on the lasttrivia night in December.

(46:38):
My questions are going to befor that night, and that is going
to be.
Yeah, no, I'm some.
I'm the host of the triviathis time.
Again.
Yeah, I meant the answers.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Boondocks is bringing it homethis time, buddy.
Sorry, I don't know.
We came on your show and beatyou on the first time, so maybe you

(46:58):
can do it too.
I think that was just a fluke.
I don't know what the happenedthere, but I don't know if I was
sleeping.
Listen, listen, listen.
Like what Fast and Furiousquote goes, it doesn't matter if
you win by an inch or a mile,you still win.
Yep, winning is winning, I'llgive you that.
That's probably the most pridething you've said all episode, Brett.

(47:24):
Either way, though, Frank, yougotta go check out his stuff at Broadside
Ambush.
Broadside Ambush.
I was drawing a blank right there.
And also check out Boondockshunting their brother's other show.
Their brother's on socialmedia and everything.
We love them over there.
I don't know why, but we do.
Because we got Squatch, too,that's why.

(47:45):
I heard you do have Squatch.
Yeah, we'll give you that.
Frank, any last thing you wantto say before we let you go, brother?
No, brother.
Just appreciate you guystaking my call.
And it's been fun.
I've looked forward to theseason and I wish everybody the best
of luck.
And let's take some big onesdown while we.
Amen, brother.
You got a direct list to thepodcast at any time, and you know

(48:07):
that, man.
No, I appreciate guys.
You guys are the same, you know.
You always know that.
Oh, yeah.
Love you, Frank.
Have a great night, buddy.
All right, guys.
Love you all.
Later.
Roadside ambush.
There he is.
All right, like we said, nowthe whisk is coming out of them.
Now we got time for one more caller.

(48:28):
Time for one more caller.
So the phone is there.
Last caller for the night.
269.
And we're gonna be off tillnext Sunday.
Thank God.
Thank God.
We got squats coming up.
These questions too.
Oh, yeah, one more Callercoming in.
Let's see who wants to talk tothe show.

(48:50):
Okay.
What's up, boys?
Oh, it's Mike.
It's the other one.
Yeah, the good one.
The cool one.
Not the 15 year old.
It's.
It's the good.
It's the black.
It's the black one.
Sorry, It's.
It's.
It's the black guy.

(49:11):
That's funny, Mike.
I didn't realize you're the.
You're from Bad Boys Black.
I didn't put the connection together.
Yes, that is.
That is me.
This one, like, come on.
Geez.
Wow.
Yes, that is me.
Hey, you.
You know what they.
I heard there was a study thatthey said gingers are now actually

(49:33):
considered to be black.
They share, like, some descentfrom, like, from black people.
What?
It's true.
It's true.
I swear to God.
I swear to God, next time itpops up on my phone, I gotta, like,
I gotta send it to you.
Like, I thought about you andmy other friend.
I was like, holy.
I was like, I knew it.
I knew it.

(49:54):
That gingers are some relationto black people.
Or like, gingers are the new.
No, like, I.
I swear, I swear to God.
Yeah, it's like if you, ifyou're a ginger, like you're somewhere
your ancestors or you havesome relation to like black people.
So I guess you're black.
I don't know why you're so pale.
But you're.
You're black.

(50:16):
I'm doing it right now.
Well, I got.
I.
I have Native American in me, though.
But to be black.
Yeah, but that was on aweekend and you're drunk.
That was the Indian for theVillage People.
That's right.
Inches of Indian in me.
So.
Well, okay, so that's probablywhy Brett can get down so good.

(50:41):
You know?
I mean.
Oh, dude, you know it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's what makes his onlyfan so popular.
That's it.
That is.
That's it.
It's definitely.
You know, you got, you got to put.
You got.
You got to put that in your bio.
Now.
What am I.
I'm not Elizabeth Warren.

(51:02):
But I.
I will say, all jokes aside, by.
Besides, you know, I don'tknow what Frank is doing over there.
Not a single camera.
Not.
Not nothing.
Like, it's about to be Julyand our brother has yet to do any
damn work.
He's just making us look bad.
Yeah, no kidding.
You guys are lazy over there.
Brett, how many cameras do youhave out right now?

(51:25):
About nine.
About roughly nine.
See, I've got.
You got nine well.
Oh, no, no, let me take it back.
I have three as well.
I have the cell cameras outthere, but I haven't turned those
on.
I have the SD cameras outthere, and those are about six of
them.
Wait, so you have.
You have your.
You have your cell cameras outthere, but let.
Please tell me they're not.

(51:46):
Like you're not paying for themonthly right now.
Turned them off and everything.
I turned.
I turned those off.
And the cell cameras are stillout there.
I'm gonna be moving themaround, but I have.
I don't have the plan goingfor them, but I have my SD cameras
out there right now too.
They're still running.
So now those are about six of them.
Do you remember when I.
I've never shared with anyonehere yet.

(52:09):
And I was going to tell Brett,but I decided against it until right
now.
So I had five Moultriecameras, and I gave Brett two of
them.
Right?
And you're like, I don't like them.
I don't like them.
Blah, blah, blah.
And you're always complainingabout them.
Well, you've had them on May 9was the last time they were on.

(52:32):
And the reason I know that isbecause I have an entire line of
pictures from you with them inyour living room.
Where is.
Oh, hold on.
I have one here.
Is there one with him in bed?
Him with his TV in his room?
Oh, right here.
That's not me.

(52:54):
That's you, dude.
And besides, I literallyshowed you photos of the.
Of those cameras when they'reout in the field, because we talked
about them on the show.
Like, look at the clarity of these.
These photos from these cameras.
But I have a whole bunch ofpictures from your place with your
cameras when you're messingaround with them at first, because

(53:16):
I reactivated all of mine andthey all came on.
So what they would do is theywould take pictures once a day to
make sure that they're still working.
So, like, a lot of them werejust like blank shots because you
must have had them put away.
I got pictures.
I am not your captain now.
See the red hair?

(53:37):
Look, I did do that.
That's Brett right there, man.
That's Brett.
Come July.
To use your cameras in thewoods or in the public bathroom.
I love it.
Yes.
Oh, that's awesome.
As flares of the forest.

(53:59):
Right?
You are.
You are the typical hunter.
I want to be like.
I aspire to be like you.
I aspire to be like you.
I'm just not no hunter wise.
Just.
I want to be able to be more black.
Well, you Are you're.
You are you just.
You know, you're.

(54:20):
You're.
You're basically halfway theretechnically now.
Yeah.
You could go to Detroit eightMile Road.
And you can.
You can technically go say the N.
Word with a hard R or just the A.
You could do both.
You get.
That'S Brett's new book coming out.

(54:40):
The Ginger Man.
I'm getting that.
I can't wait to get that.
Well, there's a racetrack overhere named after him too, called
Ginger Min.
Here's his.
This is his only fans pictureif you want to subscribe.
For people who are listening.
I'm putting pictures up oflike people that look nothing like

(55:01):
Brett that just have red hair.
And the other fellow was alittle darker than Brett.
Kind of like our brother Mike,but you know, like the Ray.
This is Brett when he's tryingto be Squatch.
Brad.
We.
We might be.
We might be related somewheredown the line.
We might be.
Mike.
We just.
Yeah, his mom does have that taste.
My wife's cracking up.

(55:22):
My wife's laughing her ass offin the back.
Hey, we just said you're.
You're a bad boy.
Like my.
The Mike from Miami.
I am a.
I was a cop.
Oh, yeah.
Brett Boven.
Yeah, There we go.
Hey, Brett, what's yourfavorite cookie?
A ginger snack.
He's a gingerbread man.

(55:44):
That's sugar cookie.
Yeah.
I'm actually pretty.
Like, let's say this so we all know.
Yeah, I'm out golfing, but I'malso out there doing work and all
this other.
So I got a tan going.
I don't tan.
I turn more orange.
I'll tell you this.
I have like a farmer's tan.

(56:05):
Like my out, like on theoutside of my arms, it's like tan,
but underneath it's like albino.
Like I make albino people looktan with how white I am underneath.
Like, if you saw my thighs,they would blind you.
Hey, Squatch.
Yeah, man.
Why do redheads make good detectives?

(56:25):
I don't know.
You're always looking forclues and trying to find their soul.
Oh, I am.
Hi, I'm Brett.
Coming on this show, Michaelasked Brett, if you're part black,
can you say the N word?
Do it, Brett.
Do it.
Stupid.

(56:46):
It wouldn't be my first.
Here's here.
Wait a second.
That's too funny.
I love it.
I love it.
Here's Brett when He worked at 7:11.
Oh, yes.
You put the slurpee down andnot drink the juice.
No, no, no, no, no, no.

(57:06):
So, Mike, how's your Seasonlooking out there, brother, for this
coming up year.
Yeah, I'm actually really,really excited for it.
You know, we were gonna bedown in Delaware on September 1st.
One of our guys, Zach, he wasactually out there glassing at some
of the fields and he.
We saw probably like he sawprobably at least seven, I think

(57:28):
seven shooters adult acrosslike different, different public
lands and everything like that.
So real, real happy to getdown there.
We're looking real good.
And then for the, for the restof my spots, like, I put some cameras
out there, but.
But nothing crazy.
I've set up some mineral sitesand things like that, but I'm really
not gonna start hammering ituntil like end of July because then

(57:52):
I'll really see what, what thebucks are looking like and everything
like that.
I've kind of scouted some.
Some new pieces and everythinglike that.
Everything else that I'vealready done in different public
lands and stuff like that.
I know, I already know whereI'm going to, so I'm not gonna go
any crazy, but just trying toget boots on the ground, find some
new spots.
One spot I found was thoughtwas going to be money and of course

(58:12):
there's like ten freaking treestands in there.
And then I went a little downfurther down the road and actually
found a nice little creek downin the bottom.
And you know, I saw like twostands down there and I worked myself
down and you know, along thecreek and everything like that bumped
a couple of deer and it lookedlike I didn't see any cameras, didn't
see any stands or anythinglike that.

(58:35):
So it seems like a pretty goodstart for a.
A brand new spot in adifferent area that I can focus on
and everything like that.
So looking forward to that andjust I, I think I'm really excited
for Furbear.
Like, don't get me wrong, Ialways excited for deer.
But here in New Jersey, weonly get really one week to bow hunt

(58:55):
them.
Not even a full week.
We get six goddamn days.
Hey, we just talked aboutswearing on the show.
I'm sorry, but you know, Ican't, I can't help it, you know,
just watch your mouth.
My background, I can't do that.
I'm sorry.
It's the ghetto, Mike.
It's the ghetto coming out.
We understand.
It's.
It's exactly, you know.

(59:15):
Oh, fun fact.
I have squash.
Squash shows us before I get any.
You guys are gonna love this.
So after.
Can't remember if it was afterwe recorded the podcast or with you
guys or can't remember what the.
We did.
But I know we're, we're doingsomething for Pride month.
We're talking about Pridemonth or some like that.
So it was mustard in the beginning.
The Scottish knows.
I got freaking suspended atwork for misgendering a transgender

(59:39):
kid.
Yeah.
What?
I, I swear, three weeks.
I just said it was my firstday back.
Yeah.
Yep.
Oh.
And you know, I was.
And I think, I think ithappened like right after.
I think one of the times thatwe're talking and we're, we're, we're
like, it was beginning ofPride month and we're like, like,

(01:00:01):
and I misgendered a kid andthen I got suspended.
I was like, you've got to bekidding me.
Like, this world is getting so soft.
It's, it's ridiculous.
But besides the point, youknow, yeah, bear season, it's looking
real good for bear season.
I know there's at least acouple, like Frank said, you know,
he's got a close to a 5, 550 around.

(01:00:23):
You know, there's a few bearsthat we're looking at.
They're in the.
Probably anywhere from thethrees to four to 500.
There's at least one 500 pound bear.
And I know I have heard rumorsthat there is probably a close to
another state record bear somewhere.

(01:00:44):
Not where I'm hunting.
But I, I know somebody who's,who could be potentially after another
state or world record bear yetagain in New Jersey.
New Jersey does haveabsolutely monster bears.
You know, us in NorthCarolina, I would say definitely
have like some of the bestbear hunting without, hands down,
without a doubt.

(01:01:04):
The good thing about ourstate, we're such a small state that
you, you could literally, onceyou go into west Jersey, you could
throw a stick and you couldhit a freaking bear.
And like, no matter what youdo, you kind of can't avoid bears.
So they're pretty easy to come across.
But you know, getting them infull range or, and everything like
that, that's where I thinkpeople kind of struggle with.

(01:01:25):
But looking forward to thebear season.
That'S just odd to me everytime I hear that.
Because you think of NewJersey and obviously and with North
Carolina, it's on thecoastline, you don't really think
of black bears.
Like, when I think of blackbears getting like huge, I think
of like Tennessee, Colorado,out west type places.

(01:01:45):
You think of those placesgetting like world record type black
bear.
And actually fun fact on theshow, I can't remember the date he's
on.
We have the current record Guycoming on, his name is Brian, who
just shot the world recordblack bear.
He's coming on the show in August.
Yeah, New Jersey.

(01:02:05):
Great, great guy.
That was.
Yeah, I think 707.
So another.
We were at bear camp.
Peyton shot his bear that day.
I think like a 250, 270 pound bear.
Good.
A good bears.
Not his biggest, but hissecond biggest.
And we're like, oh, like, youknow, we love go because we gotta

(01:02:26):
go.
We gotta take the bears to acheck in station.
And it's actually a really fun.
Like I do love taking thebears to the check in station.
You run into the biologist,you see the, you know, the warden
and everyone who's workingthere and like you find out kind
of like what's the biggestbear, how many bears have been shot
and everything.
Like it's a, it's a cool interaction.
If anyone hasn't done it,like, I definitely do recommend doing

(01:02:47):
it especially here in New Jersey.
Like, it is a pretty fun thing.
But Peyton was in line withthat bear and got to see it in person.
The guy was, I think rightbehind Peyton.
Peyton and everything like that.
Yeah, Brian was right behindPeyton and Peyton was like, yo, dude,
like this, this humongous bearwas, was, you know, killed and everything

(01:03:11):
like that.
I think that if it's not the.
I, I can't remember what it is.
It's got to be the, especiallywith a bow thing with the bow.
It's got to be the, thebiggest bear ever taken with a bow.
Yeah.
As far as black bear taken.
Taken in the bow.
I could see gun.
I think gun still is.

(01:03:32):
North is North Carolina.
I, I believe by like by like ahundred pounds or something like
that.
But with the bow, that is aabsolutely phenomenal job.
And, but that's, that's aconsistent thing.
And you say, yes, Jersey is acoast, but you gotta remember west
Jersey is not.
We're not coast at all.
Like we.
It is completely different.

(01:03:52):
South Jersey's got no goddamn bears.
You know what I mean?
Or if they do, they have maybelike one or two that wander down
and everything like that.
But, but like just the, whenyou think of.
When I just the first thingyou think of New Jersey smallest
on the coast.
Like just in general though.
Yeah.
Like, but we have.
Yeah.

(01:04:13):
Great hunting, great fishing.
Like it is really a.
I know Realtor yet againdropped their like, you know, unappreciated
states in Delaware yet again.
It was number one.
But I, I tell you, I think NewJersey is definitely, if it's not
top five it's somewhere in thetop 10.
You know, we have unfortunate.

(01:04:33):
We do have a really good deer,obviously a phenomenal deer population,
but we have really goodgenetics for bucks.
You know, I've seen some, someboxers killed.
I've killed you know, somenice bucks my buddies have killed.
Frank killed a, a nice, youknow, a nice, nice buck and everything
like that.
Shouldered a, a really goodone and then he had on camera like

(01:04:54):
a, just an absolute stud thatgot us all fired up and you know
that squash that, that typical.
I think it was a typical 10.
Yeah.
That just was absolutely beautiful.
Like one of the nice and deerI think I've ever seen.
I had at 12 yards a probablya, a 10 point that was probably in

(01:05:17):
the 140s.
Just an another absolute just stud.
So you know, you see, you seeguys kill some phenomenal deer here
in New Jersey.
It's just the problem is we'rea seven buck state.
So you get a lot of guys thatyou know at the day they'll shoot
a spike because guess what,you got six more tags, you know,

(01:05:38):
or you know, you, you get, youget away with a lot.
That's what hurts.
New Jersey number.
Why you don't see it as, as abig buck state because you get a
lot of people that do shoot alot of young deer because we have
the tags and we also haveunlimited doe tag too.
So.
And we hunt from the secondweek of September to the second week

(01:05:59):
of February.
You know, we have just aphenomenal hunting season with bears,
coyotes, waterfowl here isabsolutely like to die for.
It is, it is amazing.
You know, then they're noteven talking about fishing.
You know, we have stripers andyou know everything like that and
you know, to the shore, shark,shark fishing and everything like

(01:06:20):
that, which I don't know toomuch about.
But New Jersey kind of has, ithas it all.
So like it is reallydefinitely under appreciated state.
And everyone who comes hereactually like when they come to hunt
here they actually do find it,you know, quite enjoyable.
New Jersey is that state thatit's like the hidden gem.
I mean.
Yeah, yeah.
Like I, I've been to, I'vebeen in New Jersey fishing before

(01:06:42):
in the past and it was awesome.
I absolutely loved it.
Then you hit further southinto like the Pine Barrens and I
mean the hunting out there is even.
It's just amazing.
Yeah, the, the Pine Barren isvery difficult type.
You want a really challenging hunt.
The Pine Barrens is like someguys down there that are absolute

(01:07:03):
killers and that's Kind oflike everyone wants to either go
to the, like the DelawareWater Gap or the Pine Barns.
If you want challenginghunting like, you go to.
To those two areas.
And that's like a really goodchallenge of.
Of hunts.
And, you know, the.
The Water Gap is absolutely beautiful.
I'm trying to get the guys.
We're all trying to get a hunt there.

(01:07:23):
You know, we can hunt thereand everything like that.
Yeah, boys, like Frank said, we.
We want you guys to come.
We can go to the Pie Baron andfreak, or the.
We can go to the Water Gap andcamp out for a couple days and just.
Just hunt in the views and themountains and everything like that
is phenomenal up there.
Real thinking about thisbecause we start wrapping up here

(01:07:46):
next year.
We.
We've been talking aboutpossibly doing a week hunt in Illinois.
Maybe.
Maybe we hunt out in NewJersey instead.
I mean, the best part aboutNew Jersey, I.
Not only is it super small,you can get everywhere quick, but
I absolutely love that state.
The last time I was there, Iactually blew up two jet skis.

(01:08:09):
That's on Holt.
We will cover that on, like, aWhite Trash Advantage broadcast because
I just got back from.
From my 05 deployment and wewent to Ozfest, and then me and a
bunch of army dudes.
Oh, God.
We were from.
Oh, we were out in Oakland, actually.
And, God, Yeah, dude, we.

(01:08:31):
I ended up blowing up two jetskis and there's a broken femur involved.
But hey, we'll cover thatstory another time.
On the White Trash Advantagepodcast one.
That's right.
That's a story for the WhiteTrash Advantage podcast.
Possibly this Tuesday.
We'll see.
Hey, Brett.

(01:08:52):
Yeah.
Don't forget he got shot inthe neck, too.
He did.
I.
I didn't bring that up.
I'm surprised I forgot.
I'm surprised I forgot that.
I didn't want to.
Johnny got shot in the neck.
If everybody didn't know that.
Yeah, Johnny got shot in the neck.
Johnny got shot in the neckwhen you're deployed.
Yeah.
I'm surprised you don't know that.

(01:09:14):
You're not a faithful followerif you didn't.
Yeah.
You're not a faithful followerin there.
Yeah, I didn't know that.
I'm gonna go ahead and bringit up.
I'm also doing an elk hunt in September.
So I.
I knew that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll say that one, too.
You know why I.
I always tell the boys so,like the pursuit live guys, I'm like,

(01:09:34):
yo, I always want to get on,but I work when I'm working, I work
13 hour shifts so I don't getoff sometimes.
Like sometimes I'm still atwork like currently right now.
Thank God.
Today I was like I'm stayingtill free and that's it.
But like on a lot of my days,especially non hunting season, I'm
working as many hours as I can.
So like the boys always havelike shows and I'll see the ones

(01:09:56):
but I listen working withpatients and everything like that.
Like gosh, you get caughtslipping one time like you like today.
Kid tried beating me with thefreaking chair today.
Oh my Jeez man.
Well, we all know get close.
Yeah.
Well yeah, I just told himthat I, I, I, I, I knew this gender

(01:10:18):
named Brett and he'll kickyour ass if if you touch me.
And he start shaking in his shoes.
So I was like don't let me getthe gingers on you telling me.
Don'T let me get the big dude.
Well Mike, thank you forcoming on the show.
And again if actually this isa new one.

(01:10:38):
So Mike is actually going tobe coming on the show next week to
represent Boondocks hunting inthe trivia night Stump a Chump night.
So make sure to tune in for that.
It's gonna be Whitetailadvantage verse Boondocks because
they invited us to come ontheir show.
We came on their show and wekicked their ass.
Me and Johnny did.
So can it happen where theycome on ours and they kick our ass?

(01:11:00):
It's going to be a good one togo with and we're excited to see
Squatch is the one to be goingto be doing the questions on this
one.
The next one coming up wouldbe I think Johnny's gonna be doing
the next trivia night questions.
Yeah, that's all about alcohol though.
And I definitely want to sayreal quick for all your listeners
if you not if you have notlistened and this is not a plug to

(01:11:22):
go watch my pot listen to our podcast.
But I will tell you a Brettshould have broke the Internet with
those goddamn answers that hehad for some of the most simplest
questions where you reallytruly are like does Brett even know
Hunter?
That's how bad this was.

(01:11:45):
What is better a white taildeer or an elk?
Yeah, white till there.
Yep, that one took the that one.
Kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
That's your final answer?
No, it's.
Then he's got the balls to saywell it's the way you worded it,
Squatch.
It was tricky.
No.
And then he's like we won.

(01:12:08):
It was me and Johnny.
Johnny Had a little bit to dowith it, but I won.
There's three questions.
There's three questions.
I don't remember them, but Iknow two of them for a fact.
The.
Which one was bigger?
Is the elk or the.
The whites.
All deer.
I accidentally.
It was.
It was like a true or false question.
I accidentally put true, and Imeant false.
You wrote down the.

(01:12:29):
Your own answer.
I know because I have partADHD and dyslexia maybe.
I don't know.
Anyway, I wrote the wrong one.
As soon as I.
And I showed the answer, I'mlike, wait, off.
I met the other one.
Son of a.
He.
He also was.
There was a point where Ithink either Squatch said it or Brett
said it.

(01:12:49):
He goes, this seems like atrick question.
Yes.
And he still got tricked bythe goddamn question.
It was.
I think it was the bettingquestion because the way it was.
That was the betting.
Yes.
That was so stupid.
The stupidest question.
And I was like, wrong.
No, I didn't get it wrong, butyou did.

(01:13:12):
Either way, you have to golisten to the episode.
Yeah.
I'm nervous for Squatch's questions.
I will say, like, after thatshow watch has me, like, because
it's.
You think you'll hear the question.
You're like, holy.
It's so simple.
Yeah.
And I'm not excusing for whatBrett did because everyone else got

(01:13:32):
those questions right.
But it.
It is like.
It is a little bit of a mindwhere it's like, damn, I'm about
to sound like an absolutecomplete idiot right now.
Or like, I know my.
You guys got questions wrong, too.
That.
Hey, listen, it was like, whatthe kind of question is that?
Listen, Corky from Life goeson got those questions more right

(01:13:55):
than Brett did.
So, I mean, for those of you.
Take a home though.
Okay.
Who.
I'll take it home either way.
Sample question tonight.
Squatch.
No, I can't do that.
Okay.
That was.
Check out that episode.
Because actually was pretty hilarious.
My responses.

(01:14:16):
Mike, thank you for calling inthe show.
Thank you for giving mepermission to use the nword.
Thank you for also telling meI'm part black.
So it.
It's on record now I havepermission from.
This was a big episode for you.
You found out so many thingsmake sense to you now.
I can't wait to see.
Not only.

(01:14:36):
Not only has he came outbecause of pride month, he's come
out because of Pride month.
He's also prideful that he'sblack from the waist down maybe or
something.
I don't know.
You're you're a black gay guy, man.
It'd be a tough rest of yourlife for you.
Are you sure you're not fromDetroit, Brett?
I mean, like downtown Detroitfrom eight Mile.

(01:15:01):
Yeah.
I knew it.
That makes sense.
All right, boys, good night.
I'll see you guys at trivia night.
See you, brother.
Good.
Have a good night.
Take care.
Oh, man.
Well, that was our firstcalling night that we've done in
a while.

(01:15:21):
How do you guys think it went?
Good.
Good.
We got the NAACP involved now and.
We have pretty much coveredeverything from we're doing good
racist jokes to homophobicjokes to just hunting in general.
So I say we've covered it all.
Beating up a 15 year old.
You know that's right.
Yeah.

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We're just doing everything correctly.
Yeah.
Way.
Everyone, that's going toconclude another episode of the Whitetail
Advanced podcast from myself.
Wait, how can people find you guys?
You guys want to say, or youguys just want me to close it out?
You guys know, if you don'tknow where to find me by now, then
yeah, hell jeez.
Either way.
All right, everyone, that'sgoing to conclude an episode of the

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Yeah?
All right.
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If you want to call in andhave, you know, share your most white
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We'll figure out a good number.
I will give you my ownpersonal number if I have to, but

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that's going to be the newthing we will do.
White Trash Advantage podcast,hosted by this white Trash Some right
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We're not doing the WhiteTrash or White Tail Advantage.
How's that sound, Brett?
I like it.
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