Ep 162 / Paranormal Prowess: Tales of the Unexplainable in the Woods

We're diving into the spooky side of the great outdoors, where hunting takes a backseat to tales of eerie encounters and strange phenomena. The whole team is on deck, sharing wild stories about the weirdest things they've seen in the woods, from mysterious lights that defy explanation to chilling sounds that made our skin crawl. We also take a detour into the realm of the supernatural, discussing everything from alien abductions to the legendary Sasquatch. It's a laid-back chat filled with witty banter, so whether you're a seasoned outdoorsman or just curious about the oddities of nature, there's something here for everyone. Grab a snack, get cozy, and join us as we unravel the mysteries lurking just beyond the treeline!

Forget the deer for a moment, because this episode is all about the wild and wicked tales that lurk in the woods beyond hunting. The team shares personal anecdotes that blur the lines between reality and the paranormal, from strange sounds echoing through the trees to lights that seem to defy explanation. One particularly memorable story involves a night-time encounter with a creature that may or may not have been a Sasquatch, leading to a hilarious debate about whether anyone could actually fight off such a legendary beast—or if a hundred men would even stand a chance! We also reflect on the eerie phenomenon of missing persons in national parks, with some of the crew sharing their own unsettling experiences that have left them questioning the very nature of reality. With plenty of clever quips and playful banter, this episode is a lighthearted yet thought-provoking exploration of the strange and spooky side of the outdoors, perfect for anyone who loves a good ghost story mixed with their hunting tales.

Takeaways:

• This episode dives deep into the weird and wonderful world beyond hunting, exploring spooky experiences in the woods.
• We share some chilling tales about seeing strange lights and sounds that leave us questioning reality.
• Our discussion about Bigfoot, aliens, and the paranormal sparks some lively banter and personal stories from the team.
• The team reflects on a wild debate about whether 100 men could take down a gorilla, showcasing our unique humor.
• We touch on the Missing 411 phenomenon and how it connects to hunting and the unexplained mysteries of the woods.
• Listeners get a taste of our camaraderie and humor as we navigate through bizarre topics and hunting anecdotes.

Episode Transcript

(00:01):
Welcome to the WhitetailAdvantage podcast with your host,
Brett Bovin.
Thank you for tuning in andenjoy the show.

(00:22):
What is up, everyone?
How's it going?
What's up, Brett?
Welcome to the WhitetailAdvantage podcast.
All right, I got a beef.
You say your beef first, and then.
You put my real name on theheader for the opening of the show.
Really?
Yeah.
No, put the Squatch.
What's his real name?

(00:42):
The.
Or Squatch.
Oh, that's first.
That's a good point.
Is it not?
Or.
Squatch.
Squatch.
He's trying to let sting.
Just one name.
Yeah.
Sometimes there's a T. Or.
Well, yeah.
Stink.
Stink.
Stinky.
Stinky.
Okay, we'll change it up justfor you, you big baby.

(01:05):
Well, you had it that way eversince the show started.
It's hard.
Yeah.
And then I switched it around.
Episode 162.
Nobody Knows Me by that.
They all know me by the Squatch.
The way, you know, just topiss you off, I'm gonna leave it
just like that.
Just.
Just do it.
All right.
Guess what?
I'll get back at you.

(01:26):
It's all right.
Anyway, this is the fun showas we're calling it, meaning we're
not talking about hunting.
We might get dabble into it,but we're gonna talk about anything
and whatever outside of hunting.
Okay?
Minus, like, I. I have a blankwall behind me.
But you see, like, you evenhave a couple little sheds there.

(01:47):
Squatch has that giant deer.
Dave has all them deer.
What else do we do besides hunting?
Fish work.
I mean, Brett golfs, but us three.
Dude, I gotta tell you something.
I'm really disappointed.
Oh, my kid's gay.
Oh, yeah.
He's starting golfing.
Oh, no.
Good for him.

(02:09):
And his tranny friends wentup, bought clubs.
They identifying as golf clubs now.
He just got back from golfingwith his buddies.
I'm like, jesus Christ, I usedto respect you.
Oh, boy.
Not the Marine, was it?
No, it's.
It's the other one.
The one that works with me.
So now you have one who's gayand you have one that eats trans.

(02:34):
Yeah.
I mean, you see that harassingcomment from Boondocks?
Yeah.
He said we're gays.
He better have meant to say guys.
No, he said gays.
You all right?
We'll fix him too, man.
Oh, the gays are on today.

(02:55):
That's it.
That's so rude and offensive.
Does that mean like the people commentating?
Yeah, yeah.
Don't use that terminology onthe show, okay?
I mean, we don't need thattype of Gay language on here.
Okay, we can now say gay, soonce you all stop being gay retards.

(03:17):
Well, I'm minimallyexceptional, so I can say whatever
the I want.
I'm part black.
No, you are.
And it's not from the waistdown, either.
You beat me through it.
Especially that black gate guy.
That's me.
Why?
Is it because you don't knowyour dad?

(03:37):
Oh, yep.
Hey, so let's see.
Waist.
What does that say?
Waist down.
Waist down.
Black from the waist down.
Brett.
I know.
And numb from the neck up.
Yeah, no, we're talking about, like.
Let me ask you this.
The debate of a hundred mentaking on a gorilla.

(04:00):
What do you think?
There'd probably be 100 menthat would be dead.
Like, I was thinking about this.
I think you would, like.
You'd have to have, like, thebest game plan in the world.
No, not really, dude.
I mean, look at the drill.
Not if it's a silver.
Back at you.
It ain't happening.
It ain't happening.
All right, he's gonna fight,too, man.
He's got canines.

(04:21):
Okay, let's.
It ain't happening.
Who's gonna be the first guy that.
That.
So somebody's got to be thefirst guy that goes at the gorilla.
See, the first 20 or 30 wouldget killed right off the bat.
But then that gorilla has nostamina left.
The rest, the 60, 70 men thatare left, definitely just crush it.

(04:43):
But I don't think your punchesare hurting him at all.
Even if he's down, you ain't hurting.
A wild animal, dude.
No way.
Not like that.
No.
No punches.
You ain't choking him out?
Well, nope.
I think, though, if you took,like, 25 guys and you put one on,
like, each leg, then you justtook the rest to, like.
Yeah, but 25 guys can't fitaround one leg.

(05:04):
No, I've seen some of thevideo on a leg.
They're all weighing, like, 80 pounds.
It depends on what bar you'regoing into.
That's true.
The Blue Oyster.
So.
Okay, we're not talking abouthunting right now, so I want to talk
about something that reallydisappointed me this week.

(05:27):
You look in the mirror.
So we always reference movies, right?
Hey, you, Dave.
So we always talk aboutreferencing movies and stuff.
It doesn't matter what he said.
He's snickering, he's laughing.
Dave, that wasn't right atall, man.
I can't believe you said.
I'm sorry.
I had a moment.
We did.
Brett, for not watching PoliceTerror Academy.
Right.
All the time.

(05:48):
We Get Brett for not watching anything.
We get friendship.
But I made a comment or I madea reference to a movie and I was
hoping Squatch would get it.
And Dave knew it right off the bat.
The Sandlot.
Oh, yeah.
Brett, have you seen the Sandlot?
Yeah.
I love that movie.
That's a classic American movie.

(06:08):
What was the line?
You're an L7 loser.
In the movie they say weenie.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
And scratch is like, I. Idon't know.
And it's.
It's a sports movie.
I don't watch sports.
No, no.
It's not even a sports movie.
It's a kid movie.
It's like, I don't even want.
I don't watch.
They just happen to play big.

(06:29):
They plan.
Happen to hang out playing baseball.
Imagine your childhood.
When did it come out?
It came out in the early 1990s.
You know, I was done.
Dude.
I. I guarantee you if you putthat movie on and watched it, there'd
be a few moments where you'dhave a tear in your eye.
Yeah.
Probably saw it.
Just don't remember it.

(06:50):
Right.
With the big giant dog, you know.
You said dong or dog.
Yeah.
Don't do two sided.
It was a kids movie.
Squatch.
Okay.
I thought he said a big giantdong in the movie.
I'm like, that made sense whyJohnny was so all over it.
I just wasn't sure.
I almost teared up though,when I was a kid.

(07:12):
I almost teared up when.
And that the fence fell on the dog.
Oh, oh, yeah.
Because I watched it when Iwas like 10 years old or something
like that.
I was in my 30s when that came out.
Hold up.
Because Michael gets upset.
Michael would recognize himand he's like, what are you guys
doing?
You don't see my text messages.

(07:33):
And then he'll text me becauseI don't pop up as some things.
I can't read every comment on here.
Michael, you little bag.
But just for you, we'll stopthe entire show.
Yeah, let's, let's.
This is where it goes.
Here we go.
I wonder why we don't pop yourshit up.
Exactly.
Hey, Brett, why don't youscreenshot that?
Forward it to his mom so he'llget grounded for another week.

(07:55):
That's a good idea.
You know, your child is usingprofound language on our show.
We don't use that type oflanguage here.
And we find it very wrong and inappropriate.
Your little.
We can write.
We could write his mom.
Your little loud mouth.
Long Island Lolita.
Lolita.

(08:17):
Has run Amok.
Shut up, you.
Long Island Lolita.
Yeah.
Oh, that's funny.
Do you ever notice, though, inDisney movies, Johnny.
Johnny will probably notice.
They've.
Dave.
My Squatch.
I just.
I have zero open in all Disney movies.

(08:40):
The dad is dead.
No.
Yes.
In all Disney movies.
All, like in like, like younggeneration, like the 90s movies.
The 2000 movies.
I don't think I've seen anyDisney movies from then.
It was all like the 70s and 80s.
Pinocchio had a dad.
Let's start off with AirBud.
Let's just.
We'll start off with AirBuds.
Dad's dead, Geppetto.

(09:02):
Airbuds in your ear.
What the hell is he talking about?
Okay, maybe not all of them,but like 95 of Disney movies from
that timeline.
The dad is dead.
All right.
So good.
Huh?
Yeah, I didn't understand that one.
I. I just thought that wasweird, but pointed out.

(09:24):
All right, well, you haven'tnoticed that.
Everybody in the Disney moviesis all messed up.
Snow White, you know, theseven dwarfs are jacked.
No, not.
Not even like the animated movie.
Like the real, like, likeairblood type movies.
Like, with, like, real peopletype movies.
I don't know if I've everseen, like, a real Disney movie.

(09:44):
All right, I can.
I can name one.
I think the only one isn'tLion, Lion King or Disneyland.
Hold on.
Bambi had a father.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like a 200.
He got killed.
White tail.
Yeah, but he had a father.
He still had a father.
He had a pops.
Michael loves us, guys.
Yeah, Michael loves us.
No homo.
Speaking of Disney, the girlsare frozen.

(10:06):
Parents, making them sisters.
As he commented here.
Speaking of Disney dads,Tarzan parents and the girls from
Frozen's parents making.
Making them his sisters.
Dude, Disney's corrupt, man.
That's like, crazy.
Wait, I heard about thistheory thing.
I'm confused, though.

(10:27):
Wait.
Tarzan's parents and the girlsfrom Frozen's parents?
Yeah, Making them his sisters.
I've never seen Frozen, so Ihave no idea.
I've been Frozen.
I've watched it because I gotthe kids.
So Tarzan and the girls fromFrozen are related.

(10:47):
Okay, I'll buy that.
Oh, I know why now.
Because in the movie Frozen,the parents, they get lost out at
sea, and then their shipcrashes and dies.
And then they.
They elect Elsa to be the new queen.
Or the.
The castle area.
Wouldn't they don't knowtheory is that they got stuck on
an island, thus being Tarzan's parents.

(11:09):
You sure we don't want to talk.
About hunting we can now it.
This is getting gay.
This is get.
As soon as you said Disney, it.
Went hard to identify as adildo or something.
Now you're gonna be thinking.
You're gonna be thinking the golf.
We're gonna talk about realdecent movies now.
None.
None of this Frozen stuff.

(11:30):
All right?
So I'm.
I'm gonna go ahead and say aquote, and I want to see if any of
you turds and did it, see whatmovie it's from.
All right?
Gan's Island.
All right.
Movie.
Dave, you old prick.
They made a movie on it.
The good stuff.
None of that stroll.
Oh, that's from Joe Dirt.

(11:53):
Absolutely.
I can't.
That one.
That's like one of my favorite.
Oh, you started.
I thought you were just talking.
I'm going through comments andI just hear you yell at them.
So just.
Players of the Forest.
I just got here and you guyshave gone gay already.
Dude, we started going gay atthe start of the show.

(12:16):
Yeah, I was gay years ago.
What the.
On that note, broke backIndiana this year.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Would you rather be stuck in amall with a gorilla?
You've already asked this question.
I have?
Yeah.

(12:37):
Everyone said the black mamba.
Yeah.
I don't know though.
I think I take the gorilla.
I bet you would, you homo.
I'm just curious.
That's.
That's right, you're curious.
That's why you take the gorilla.
That's why you golf.
That's why you golf with meand my golf.
It's my fun, relaxing timebecause it gets me a chance to get

(12:58):
away with you gay bashing homos.
Hey, I gotta ask you, have youever gotten a fight on the golf course?
I almost did, two years ago.
Yeah, that's my two.
You bastard.
No, like, you walk up tosomebody and you're like, hey, buddy,
that's my ball.
You think?
No, no.
So I hit.
Don't touch my ball.
It was basically like that, Dave.
So what happened was it was apar 4.

(13:21):
Okay?
I hit the ball.
And generally on par fours.
Even if you think it'sdrivable, like if a drivable par
4 or you think you can driveit, you can either go.
All right, there we go.
So I have Brett muted, so thatway we don't have to hear his golf
stories.
Now.
I was interested to see whereit was gonna go.

(13:42):
Yeah, it's gonna go to a daybar somewhere.
He touched my balls.
Then you know what?
Brent's gonna come, come up tous one day, and he's like, guys,
I. I quit golf, and we'regonna be, like, awesome, man.
What are you doing now?
I'm bowling.
He'll have, like, real facialhair instead of that gay beard.
Nah, I doubt that.

(14:02):
Yeah.
Pickleball.
I'm playing pickleball.
Guys, right now he's playingco. Just gay twister with all his
buddies out at the golf course.
Flavors of the forest.
You can't say nothing becauseyou got a dick in your mouth.
There's other force.
Do you keep two balls in yourmouth when you go.
Nah, just two in his hand.
One's.

(14:22):
One.
One's back.
Leo.
Leo.
Leno.
Oh, my God.
Dude, this has been like.
Our viewers were, like, up,and then now they're down, talking
about.
I know.
I saw on the.
The thing that we had, like,10 at one point, and they're like,
yeah, this.

(14:43):
We're done.
Yeah.
Disney and golf.
Now we're down to one.
Yeah, we.
Guess it's probably Mike.
No, I have it on my phone.
And he's not even in the room.
He's just got the computer on.
Yeah.
To make it sound like we got a guest.
He's probably.
He's probably getting smacked.

(15:03):
He's probably getting smackedaround by his mom.
Yeah, we're back up to six now.
Hey, we're doing something.
We can talk about hunting.
I don't give a.
We can just.
Yeah, all right.
Talk about it.
Why don't we talk about this?
Who here has been getting deeron their trail cameras?
Me.
Me, me.
What?

(15:24):
Brett, you have trail cameras out.
How come you never send us pictures?
We're on this giant group text.
We're all talking.
I send pictures of my deer.
Squash sends his.
Dave sends his pictures, andyou're just silent.
So this whole time we'rethinking, oh, Brett must not have
any deer in his property,because maybe Dave and I went out
there one day and put IrishSprings soap studs all over the place,

(15:45):
you know?
Hey, maybe that's working.
You are getting deer on your camera.
Yeah.
I'm gonna step it up a bit.
Okay.
Not just going.
You know why he doesn't havetrail camera pictures, right?
Because his lenses are facing that.
We already noticed.
No, he flipped him around.

(16:06):
He just hasn't put batteriesin the tree again.
I mean, I'm gonna explain.
I'm gonna explain.
Okay, here we go.
Look.
See the round lens up there?
The round lens that faces awayfrom the tree?
Brett, Not.
Not this way.
Okay.
It goes like this.
See?
So you.
Either way, though, with thatmoultrie piece of that you got right
there.

(16:26):
Even if you face it out in thewoods, you still.
Wow.
Moultrie piece of man.
Moultrie has some of any of myvideos that I've taken have been
some of the most clear videosI've ever had.
I'm just kidding.
If you like Moultrie, Isupport you and your Moultrie.
I.

(16:47):
What I think though is cool.
Is that one thing, though.
Yes.
I think that they could stepit up though, at least I'm just in
my opinion is clarity on the photos.
But what I think is Moultrieis doing compared to others.
At least I've seen as alately, like they're introducing
like, AI and you can breakthings down by.
Oh, you've been able to dothat since day one.

(17:09):
I didn't know, like, I didn't know.
I. I knew about motor, but Ijust never had it until you gave
me theirs, Johnny.
Yeah.
So to see like, the coolthings that they were doing with
it, I thought was like, really sweet.
And like, I used to have Wildgame cam.
I still have the Wild Gameinnovation SD cameras.
Yeah.
And then I switched them out.
Huh.
Stealth owns them.

(17:30):
Yeah.
You got these, Got these ones,Brett, actually.
Yeah, I do.
Those are mine.
I got.
These are old.
I'll send you.
You want me to send them to you?
Because I don't use them anymore.
I love those.
I have Tera X's take reallygood pictures and videos.
The Wild game Tera I can send you.
I'll.
I'll mail these out to you.

(17:51):
Because I, I, I don't use them anymore.
Yeah, I, I have them like allover the property and on just like
little main parts of the trail.
So when I just walk around theproperty, I just pull a, pull a card
out and just pop it in there.
I mainly use those for like,inventory cameras, but I love them.
Yeah.
But then I.
Then I got the, the tacticam cells.

(18:13):
And those are cool.
Those kind of stepped up withwhat they're doing and stuff like
that.
With that, you can breakthings down with like, wind, like,
weather type of stuff,categorizing it and breaking it down
and barometric pressure.
But Moultrie is also doingstuff cool with.
What was the one I thought wasreally cool?

(18:34):
Barometric pressure.
Moon phases.
Yeah.
Stealth.
Well, you can also specify,like, I just take.
Only take pictures of bucks.
I thought that was pretty cool.
Oh, yeah.
Mine.
Mine will identify if you havesomebody intruding on the property.
Yeah.
Yeah, I like that.
Where it'll only take picturesof deer.
Guys going around like, thiswith golf.

(18:56):
Clubs run around, little pink tutus.
Yeah.
I can't wait to get my newones though.
I am like, looking forward tousing their new live view so you
can actually use it like aring camera.
That's pretty cool.
The stealth.
All their new 2.0's they got that.
They're no SD cards anymore.
They're all hard drive now.

(19:16):
The MO ain't SD anymore either.
Yeah, no, they haven't been ina while.
The.
No, that cam actually did The.
Their new camera came out withlive streaming now too.
Yep.
Oh, the Moultrie.
No.
Has had the live stream nowfor at least two seasons.
Yeah, because I had the.

(19:38):
It's the Edge Pro or maybeEdge 2 Pro.
You have it brought onto yourphone and you can see exactly how
your placement is.
Yeah, that's.
That's this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I can do.
I can do that.
I can do a live video orpicture to see where you can watch
it on your phone to make sure you're.
You're angled good.
See, that's what Brett needsbecause he always puts a damn lens

(19:59):
facing the tree and he'd belike, oh, I didn't get all the way.
I think it's kind of coolwhere you can just open up the app
and you can live view andwatch it pretty much all day if you
wanted to.
Yeah.
Dude, you know how horriblethat is when you're at.
I know.
And I got the new 360 pros toocoming, so they're the ones I can
see 360 degrees.
I'll tell you what, man, that freaking.

(20:21):
That insta360 camera that Igot for making videos.
That's awesome.
What?
Yeah, I was looking at those too.
We.
We actually were talking about.
Johnny had an idea of likeputting cameras.
Well, first off, before I getto that, I didn't know when the camera
that Johnny gave me, it wasstill linked to his account.
I had it on my account too,but he was still seeing the photos

(20:44):
I had of me setting it up.
Which I'm glad I wasn't like,naked when I was in my basement because
I. I did have him downstairs.
I told you, man.
You're like, no, no.
And then, yeah, all of asudden, Brett's looking on Instagram
and there's a bunch ofpictures of him in his.
Underwear looking like BuffaloBob from.
They're like, who?

(21:05):
Johnny's like, who the is thisdude with my camera?
I think I.
You gonna interrupt me now again?
Listen, user.
What.
What camera do you have forthe instant 360.
That's it.
Insta.
360.
That's the actual Insta.
Yeah, Insta.
There's some knockoffs andthen there's the.

(21:26):
Oh, it's a 400 plus $1.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Dude, it's awesome.
It's awesome.
When you edit.
When you edit, you edit thewhole 360 picture.
Like you're a cameraman in the editor.
So, like, when Frank and Iwere sitting in the blind and I shot
the turkey, I was able in theediting to just turn the camera and

(21:49):
view us to our reaction andthen turn back out into the field,
but just.
Yeah, otherwise it's only 180.
And you have to.
You have to select the 360 if you.
You know, and then when it'sin the editing, you'll have that
feature.
If you got it on 180, youdon't have the 360 all the time.
Okay, so that being said, I amhorrible at editing my videos.

(22:12):
I use AI a lot to edit mine.
What do you guys use for allof your posts and stuff like that?
I use Snapshot because I knowBrett, Squatch and Dave.
You guys all have YouTubeaccounts and post awesome videos.
I don't because I'm.
But mine literate.
Mine's clear.
I told you to send me your.

(22:32):
And then I'll do the editingpart of it and upload it on the channel.
I know, and I. I need to.
I'll just email you a wholebunch of stuff because I've got all
sorts of videos.
I just need to send it to you.
Oh, actually.
Hey, did you guys get that?
The picture off of Brett's camera?
Remember he said he didn'tknow it was still on.

(22:53):
Did you guys.
I got it.
Look, this is in his basement.
He's got kids in his littlekids in his basement.
The kid looks happy, though.
I mean, he's doing all right.
But that's the one that cameup on the camera.
Well, that's before thechloroform kicked in.

(23:13):
Good God.
Here's another.
Wait, I got another one.
We went there.
I don't know what's moredisturbing that the ease that you
pull them up with.
Yeah, the fact that Brett has them.
Brett.

(23:33):
That's off Brett's camera.
He sent me those photos.
He said, look, my account'sstill open and it took pictures out
of my basement.
I think I hear ice showing upat Brett's driveway right now.
I hear the door being slammed open.
Right.
Kicked in.
We know you're here.
Come out with your hands up.
I just.
I hear the scratching offingernails at his basement door.

(23:56):
Senor.
Brett.
Let me out.
Senor.
Hey, speaking of James, thatjust went off.
What's that?
Is that.
Is that Limpy?
Yeah, that's Limpy.
Oh, that's the one Brettwinged last year.
Made it over to your county, man.
So I. Limpy, is this deer thatI've had numerous times now on my

(24:17):
camera or is he.
Was he shot?
I think he was probably hit.
I think it was hit by a carbecause I'm right in the city.
So we'll.
We'll see.
I'm gonna really focus ongetting them this year.
I looks like one of the sideskind of deformed.
That's why I'm kind ofwondering if it is from a car accident.

(24:39):
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking.
It could have been.
When they get wounded oraccidents, it seems to mess up their
antlers.
I've seen it snap their legsback in a rock wall.
Yeah.
So I just had another buck onmy camera just now.
It's a Michigan 11 point, butit is a tall one.

(24:59):
Is he.
I'll send you that.
I'll send you the video.
Is that your.
That same spot?
Yeah, same spot.
So this is the spot.
I shot a decent buck out ofthere last year and I shot a doe
out of there last year and Ijust never moved the camera and kept
it there.
It's a real good spot.
And yeah, I just kept itthere, activated it back up again.

(25:20):
So now I'm going to send youguys the video, man.
See, this is why people needto tune in and watch our videos on
YouTube.
Because if someone's listeningto this right now at work, you're
like, what the.
What are they talking about?
What in the hell are theytalking about?
They're showing pictures andeverything and looking around.
You see everybody looking downat their phone on this podcast.

(25:41):
It's amazing.
I'm trying to like get somephotos here, but I'm not getting
any.
He's trying to erase thosephotos of that little fill.
Yeah, right, exactly.
Hold on guys, I gotta delete some.
I gotta burn it.

(26:02):
He's searching on his phone.
Hey, what did Hillary Clintonused to wipe her phones?
Oh yeah, that's that four anda half year old.
Michael, I thought we answeredyour question.
He asked Johnny.
That's a four point.
Is that a little four?
Yeah.
Is it split at top?
Look at the top.
He's.
They're split like real, real thin.

(26:22):
Oh yeah.
Look at that Johnny real, real thin.
Like little babies.
You know, if that was.
That was a forked at the top.
Michael, I thought we alreadyanswered your question.
He asked what are.
What are each of your go tocameras with the thing that we've
been talking about for thelast like 20 minutes.
Moultrie right there.
Sheesh.

(26:42):
Five point and none.
Oh, geez.
Let me.
Wait a minute.
Let me not pay attention.
Let me explain it again to Michael.
Okay, here's slow class.
Michael.
Ready?
God.
See, Squatch has cameras right there.
I have cameras in the woods.

(27:03):
That's my command pro app.
And it links straight to myhunt stand app.
So I can look at pictures onmy hunt stand app.
Look at that.
And it actually tells me myGPS coordinates.
I got my mole tree.
I'm so exactly where my camerais at.
I got turkey.
No, I thought they called it a birdie.

(27:24):
I got turkey.
There's a turkey on my camera.
Okay, so you have turkey onprivate, but yet you don't hunt turkey.
I just don't have the time.
Not like I'm not against it orlike I'm against it or anything like
that.
You can find the time, Brett.
It takes.

(27:47):
Look at this picture from theother night.
I think a freaking spear infront of my camera.
I'm not gonna look at apicture of your micro penis.
See that black cloud?
Oh, yeah.
All right, here we go.
Weird, right?
That is weird.
What.
What is the strangest thingyou guys have ever seen in the woods
or the creepiest?

(28:07):
I saw a light that didn't bounce.
It kind of was like an orb andit moved pretty slow, but it.
It didn't have like a person'sbalance to it.
It was up in the upAdirondacks and it was a field and
there was no back then.
It was early, early early 90s.
There wasn't like those likeLED headlamps or anything.

(28:28):
But that's kind of what itlooks like.
Like I saw what it would looklike now and it didn't bounce.
Like you can see somebody's,you know, pronounced walk as they
go to this thing.
Just went like real slow.
It was freaky.
And then it went and went.
So, you know, everyone knowsI'm huge into that paranormal, Bigfoot,

(28:49):
all that awesome stuff.
I love it.
Now, have you guys everlistened to or watched any of the
documentaries called theMissing 41 1?
Yeah, I think I've caught it on.
On, on TV a couple times.
So squash.
There's one in your area,actually, and it's in the cat skills.
Yep.
And it's so.

(29:11):
It's a. I'm actually watchingit on my TV right now.
It's called the Missing 411,the Hunted.
The stories of all thesehunters that have disappeared in
like, crazy weird incidenceswhere, like, either they're never
found or they're found, likemiles and miles away later with like,
just like weird scenarios.
Right.
Yeah.
I remember not to cut you off.

(29:32):
There's two that I remember.
One in New York.
Yeah.
Where father and son.
A grandparent or godfather.
A grandpa.
It was a hunting party.
Yeah, it was.
Well, it was a hunting partnerof two or three.
Yep.
In New York.
And then they're like gun hunting.
And they said they were onlygonna go for like five days, I think.
Was that.

(29:52):
Were you gonna get to that?
Yeah.
So that's the one I wastalking about near squash.
And what it was is it was anolder gentleman, he was a Vietnam
vet, lost his eye in areloading accident.
He was reloading a bunch ofshells, and Potter went up and flashed
his eye.
He lost it.
Well, him.
And it was his son took themout hunting.
And there was the old mensitting there, and the young guys

(30:14):
were out there driving thedeer to him.
Well, all of a sudden, like,they're like maybe 20 yards apart,
and they just.
He just disappeared.
Like no one knew where he went.
They looked every.
Everywhere for him.
The FBI came up looking for him.
Like he's never been found.
Like there's not never a signof any firearm.

(30:36):
Nothing.
Turn your phones off.
They have it set off.
That's me.
I'm sorry.
But.
Yeah, it's.
But you got yelled at by Brett.
That's funny.
I know.
Like, dad.
He's like your dad now.

(30:57):
Dude, I'm sorry.
If Brett was my dad, I wouldhave left a long time ago.
Like, that's.
That's all there is.
You think so?
I don't think you would have.
I think.
I think you would have took upgolf and rode around a golf.
Probably.
Thank God my dad was anabusive alcohol.

(31:19):
I like to shake wrong withyour story, though.
No.
So it's.
Yeah.
I was just wondering, youknow, this the weirdest things that
we've ever seen in the woodsbecause there's all sorts of stories
of like Bigfoot and Dog man,all this crazy in the woods.
And what's funny is you havehunters who are always out there

(31:40):
in the woods where we submergeourselves in that environment.
We're the ones who would beout there witnessing it.
And I was just wondering ifthere's Ever been any incidences
where you guys see somethingthat's not quite right and you don't
even give it two thoughtsuntil afterwards?
Like one day, light squash, right?

(32:01):
You saw that light and you'relike, oh, that's weird.
But then later on you're like,wait a minute.
That was really weird.
Yeah, it freaked me out.
Yeah.
So I was hunting and my countyand I was hunting on private land
for the early deer or liberty hunt.
Yeah.
And it was like a 300 acre or300 yard field all the way across

(32:22):
and I see this giant.
Well, I see a black cat righton the other side of the field walking.
And I don't know why I'msitting there hunting with a rifle
at the time.
I'm like, that's a bit, youknow, that's a cat over there, no
big deal.
And then it like hits me like,wait a second, that's like 10, 300
yards away.
And I can definitely seedetails in that cat.
That's a huge freaking cat.

(32:43):
That's not like a house cat.
Then I pull up my rifle, youknow, I was going to take a shot
at it and it goes into the woods.
And you, you know, everyoneknows down here in southwest Michigan
we don't have cats like that.
No.
Well, as according to the dnr.
And then I saw that.
And then probably like twoweeks later we're driving down the

(33:03):
road and my ex wife sees one.
She's like, what's that?
I'm like, I'm franticallylooking, I'm like, what is that?
She's like, it was like agiant black cat or something.
Like.
But it's just one of thosethings where wondering if you guys
saw anything in the woodswhere you weren't quite sure what
it was.
I had one where I was young.
I say that I've heard an owlin the woods before, but it was,

(33:28):
I don't think it was lastyear, it was a year before or three
years ago.
But I was hunting on the, thecornfield and it's getting right
at the last little bit ofsunlight left.
And then all of a sudden Ijust hear a owl just like going off.
And he was like right next tome, but I couldn't see it.

(33:48):
Like it was so loud.
Like I thought it was in thetree right next to me and I can't
see and it's getting.
And the way that it, like thetone that it was doing it, like the,
like the, the rhythm, whateveryou want to call it, of how it was
calling, like it would do itWas like off cadence or whatever
and it was just creeping methe out dude.

(34:10):
Where.
So, yeah, it sounded like anowl, but.
But it sounded like.
It sounded like someone.
It sounded like somethingimitating an owl, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.
It just made me like.
I was like, you know What, I'mlike 26 to 27, 28 years old.

(34:34):
I'm like, I'm a 30 year old guy.
I'm getting scared out in thewoods right now.
It was the old man.
It was the old man from freaking.
Yeah.
This is your dad with a Jason mask.
Yeah.
No, no, no, it's that.
What the hell's his name there from?
From.

(34:54):
Hey, you boys kind of.
Oh, family guy.
Family guy.
Herbert to pervert.
Hey there British.
How you freaking out there.
Now?
Here's.
Here's the thing.
You guys ever go into thewoods purposely to mess with.

(35:15):
So Brett, obviously not you.
You hunt private, you snob.
But you guys ever like go intothe woods with a purpose just to
mess with people?
Well, to mess with other.
I had a guy years ago that hadpermission to be on my cousin's property
that adjoined ours.

(35:35):
And he was a deer jackingpiece of garbage.
And Mike, he.
He would just like, like kindof bully my cousin around and just
be like, yeah, I want to go here.
I want to hunt here.
My cousin be like, all right,go ahead.
I. I don't know why he justlike let him move around up there.
So I had stands up near theedge of the orchard and he.

(35:58):
He was encroaching like comingup close to the port, you know, the
property line.
So I seen him like two orthree days before opening season.
And he's like, are you huntingover there?
I'm like, yeah.
He's like, well, I'm gonna behunting up in that corner.
I'm like, no, you're not.
You're gonna go down over theridge and hunt away from me.
No, I could.
Your cousin said I could hunt there.
It's okay.
That's fine.
So I got my three wheeler withthe open exhaust on it and I freaking

(36:21):
made hot laps around opening day.
Nice.
Nobody got anything.
So.
You know, I could beat a bigger.
It's fine.
I've done one.
Yeah, that was.
I was a private.
I'm probably did it to himself.
So convince his wife.

(36:41):
No, I didn't do it to my dad.
So I was riding my coolers.
We were new.
We were at my.
I was.
Words are hard.
So when we moved at my parentshouse, they still live there since
we Moved there when I was a kid.
I didn't know anything aboutproperty lines and all this and that.
I just saw woods.
I had a four wheeler and I wasjust gone.
And I'm like miles down the road.

(37:03):
Okay.
Anyways, I was going throughthese trails and I go up this big
hill and I come up to thisgiant clearing and I'm just doing
donuts and circles and like this.
And it's like June, somethinglike May at probably at this time.
And I'm just cranking all thisout and then I come back out at night,

(37:24):
I'm doing.
And there's like this littlemini hill.
So I'm taking my four there.
I'm jumping up on the hill andcome to find out that they were hunters
but I didn't notice at the time.
So I'm coming back up to thethat hill again and there's giant
rocks right there.
And I see a guy on a tractor.

(37:44):
He looks at me, he's comingaround that corner.
That same corner too.
And how he timed it up perfectly.
I know it, it's just amazing.
And he makes dead eye contactwith me and he just goes like this.
And like come here.
I'm like yeah.
Fuck no.
And reverse.
And I'm gone.

(38:05):
So ever since then it's beenlike this bad blood between us.
Because at one point a coupleyears later after that incident I
found.
I found dead skeletons ontheir property.
And I didn't know like again Ididn't know property lines.
So how I got on the property Ididn't know.
And I thought.
And they just been allpoaching bread.

(38:28):
On his dirt bike when he was a kid.
Spoiler.
Anyways, long story short,it's been bad blood with us ever
since because I think threeyears ago I put a tree stand up on
our side of the property and.
Jesus.
And they put on.
On their side of the propertythey put a sign up and it said no

(38:51):
hunting on this private property.
Stay back, Ginger.
500ft.
That's my story.
That's my story and I'msticking to it.
So you talk about weird in the woods.
I. I've told you the storybefore that my dad was chased by
a squatch.
You have?
But you've never told us theexact full story.

(39:13):
You've just said that.
So my dad.
My dad was 16 and he'd savedup enough money playing in the band
and working down at this villadown the road from where they moved
up to up here.
And at the time it was dirt road.
It was no, no pavement on the road.
And he would work in thekitchen at the place.

(39:34):
And my uncle played guitar, mydad played the drums.
And when their shift was over,the owner of the place allowed them
guys to play a couple sets ofmusic and make some extra money.
So my father wouldn't leavethat place till real late at night.
Well, he's on his way home,comes down the hill, there's a swamp
in the middle of the hill.

(39:55):
And they had been seeing a bigphantom buck that was crossing a
lot and moving around and stuff.
And my dad heard a big bunchof ruckus.
So he stopped the bike andhe's like, oh, you know, with the
full moon out, hopefully I'llget a good look at this buck.
You know, everybody's tellingme he's a big buck.
Well, he stopped, the deercame running across the swamp, out

(40:17):
into the road and he heardthis blood curdling scream.
It sounded real, real highpitched, like a woman screaming.
But then it went into this Godawful roar and he just beat feet,
man.
He had a brand new 10 speedthat he bought with the money that
he saved up.
And he's pedaling like a sonof a bitch.
And he's, he's, he's going upthe hill.

(40:39):
He comes over the hill, goesdown and he has to turn on the next
road.
And it was a hard 90 degree angle.
He said he could hear just thetrees snapping.
And this thing was just likerunning through the woods, breaking
off.
And when he made the turn tothe right, there was a stone wall
that was on the edge of the property.
The thing tripped.

(41:00):
When it tripped, it wasswiping for his head.
My dad had long hair.
It took some of his hair off.
And my father said when thatbig mitt went past his head, he could
smell like mildew, swampy,like just putrid.
Smell with that wet dog smell.
Yeah.
And he was like, oh God, I'mgonna die.
I'm gonna freaking die.

(41:20):
This thing's gonna kill me.
So he's pedaling his ass off now.
The thing's on the road, it'snot in the woods anymore.
He said he could hear the feethitting the road behind him.
Every time it hit us, it tooka step, just running.
So he's pedaling, pedal and pedaling.
He gets down, he's gonna comedown a hill.
My grandfather and grandmotherwere building the house, but they

(41:43):
had a mobile home trailer thatthey lived in right next to the house
that they were building.
My dad threw the bike down,jumped off, got to the front door
and was Beating on the doorbecause my grandfather had chained
the door shut.
Like, you know, those safety locks.
He says, you're on your own.
No, he didn't.
He didn't know what was going on.
So my.

(42:03):
He says, what?
He opened the door.
He's yelling at my dad, whatare you, stupid?
Wake everybody up.
Your mother's trying to sleep by.
He's like, I can't breathe.
Let me in the house.
Let me in house.
Something's trying to kill me.
So he's like, what's the matter?
And that thing screamed again.
And it was running around thetrailer, running around the trailer,
running around the trailer.
My grandfather loaded up everygun in the house.

(42:24):
My grandmother had one, mygrandfather had one.
My dad had a gun, and my unclehad a gun.
And this thing is just dump,dump, dump, dump, dump, dump, dump,
dump, dump.
Running around the housescreaming its head off.
And my grandmother.
I told you, my grandmother isNative American.
She's Natchez and Blackfoot Indian.
And she said some.

(42:45):
Like.
I don't know what she said,but she said something, you know,
to my father, that it's goingto be all right.
And that thing started gettinga little quieter, a little quieter,
a little quieter as it wentaway from the trailer.
So my grandfather's like, ifthat thing comes back, just shoot.
We're going to shoot to killit, whatever it is.

(43:06):
We'll shoot through the walls.
We'll shoot it.
I'm not going to play gameswith this thing.
So my grandmother.
My father was so distraught.
He was like, basically on anervous breakdown.
They got some rum, and theygave him some rum to calm down.
And she said, go take a shower.
We're out here.
Relax.
I already called the police,you know, Go relax.

(43:28):
So my dad got in the shower,got cleaned up, came back out.
Did you hear anything, guys?
No, nothing's came back.
No more noises, Nothing.
Same time the police roll up town.
Cops, they told them what happened.
The cops made a bunch of lapsup and down the road with the old
spotlights.
Now, you got to remember thisis probably 1968, 1969.

(43:50):
And, you know, they didn'thave, like, you know, good shit back
then.
They just had the regular oldlights and stuff.
So they went around, theycould see the trees were snapped
over, busted out into theroad, all screwed up.
And they were like, all right,you know, we're making a report,
you know, about it, whatever.
We're gonna ride around therest of the night and see what we
can find.

(44:10):
So my dad went to bed, and the moon.
Remember the moon was still out.
And he's like, he's layingthere in bed and his, his bedroom
was at the end of the trailer.
And he's like, man, I just, hehad that feeling like something's
watching him, you know.
So he opened his eyes and hesaw the shadow at that pointy head.

(44:31):
They got a, like a.
That conical head.
Conical head.
That head.
And ears.
He said there was ears likereal pointy up on the side.
And that thing was looking inthe window by him.
He slid down out of bed, gotonto the floor and he said he just
laid on the floor and thatthing just freaking finally walked

(44:52):
off, went back and it nevercame back.
It never came back.
But the lake down the road,and that's actually where I show
you guys pictures where I gotthe camera.
Yeah, that lake.
Yeah, well, that lake.
Two weeks later, there was ayoung guy, little kid and his father
and they were fishing by the lake.

(45:12):
You could pull the car up bythe front of the lake.
And the kid goes, hey daddy,Daddy, look.
There's a big black bear onthe other side of the lake.
Now back then there wasn'tbears around here until lately, you
know, I mean the bears backthen we didn't have bears.
They were up in theAdirondacks back then.
So the guy's like, oh, knockit off, leave me alone.
I'm trying to read the paperto the kid.

(45:33):
Dad, that bear is getting closer.
It's getting closer.
Shot up and fish.
He tells the kid, right, sothe thing's getting closer and closer.
Dad, the bear's coming closer.
The guy looks out.
It was the freaking Squatch man.
It was coming around the lake,coming towards them.
He grabbed the kid right offthe ground, threw him in the car.
They beat feet, took off outof there and they went to the friggin

(45:54):
police.
So there was documentation onboth of those dates in the town records.
It's still there.
And you know, I always thoughtit was a thing like my dad was just
trying to scare the.
Out of me when I was a kid,you know, not to take off and run
away or do something.
Oh yeah.
And he, and I'm telling you,to this day, you gotta have one day.
We'll have my dad on, let himreally tell it.

(46:16):
But he tells it exactly, wordfor word, the same time, same way
every time he tells it.
And he's 74 years old and I,I've heard him tell that story since
he was like 26.
So I asked my grandfather, Iasked my, my grandmother, I asked
my Aunts and uncles.

(46:36):
Everybody says that was legit.
It was true.
It happened.
So that was one of the reasonswhy when I came out with the outdoors
channel and stuff, I just tookthe Squatch knee.
So.
Dude, that's awesome, man.
Now.
Yeah, we now have the.
The origin story of the Squatch.
Yeah.
So now how far are you from.

(46:57):
I hope I'm saying This right.
Horton, N.Y. h O R I C.
O N that's upstate.
That's probably three or four hours.
Because that's where there'sbeen a lot of disappearances in the.
The one that I was talkingabout, his name is Thomas Mesic,
I think is how you say it.
But he was one thatdisappeared up there.

(47:20):
Yeah, I've had people.
I've had people ask me,they're like, what would you do?
Because I mean, it's.
It's around the area.
And I'm like, I've been in thewoods my whole life.
I mean, ever since I was alittle kid.
And obviously, believe me, ittook me a lot to get over like walking
in the woods, hearing that story.
When I was a kid.
I mean, we used to have grousetake off.

(47:40):
And it stopped my heartbecause, you know, it was pitch black
out.
And I wouldn't.
I wouldn't walk in with a flashlight.
Because I was like, he can seeme if I'm walking in with a flashlight.
I'm like, he won't, he won'tget me if I'm not walking in without
a flashlight.
So when I was a kid, I hardlyever carried a flashlight.
I used to just walk in withouta light.
And you know, it's.

(48:00):
I don't know, man.
Like I said, it's.
People have asked me, whatwould you do?
And I would.
I would kill it dead.
I would kill it dead.
And there'd be no if, ands or buts.
You know, I'm always carrying,I'm always packing.
If I'm in the woods, it don'tmatter if I'm scouting, taking a
walk, cutting firewood.
I'm always packing heat.
So it would die.

(48:22):
I totally annihilate it tillit wouldn't move again.
So now, that being said, whatdo you think it is?
So I feel, I feel because.
And.
And I think this is really,truly the only reason why I haven't
had closer encounters orrunning with it is my grandmother,

(48:42):
with her Native Americanstuff, did something.
Whether she said something ordid something to.
To make that go away.
And really.
Sasquatch means the wild manin Indian.
When you break you know theIndian, American Indian language
down.
Sasquatch means the wild man.
And that's why.
That was another reason I'm awild man.

(49:03):
I'm always out in the woods.
I'm crazy.
I like to freaking, you know,have a good time.
So that's why I just have thatcup right there.
Yeah.
It's hard to tell, but there'sa squatch on it.
Yeah.
But, you know, I, I, I don't know.
I, I really think it's, it's,it's, it's prehistoric.
It's Native American, youknow, goes back to those days.

(49:25):
I think it's three dimensional.
You know, I don't want tosound like a crazy person, but I
think it can appear and whenit wants.
I don't think it's like, youknow, it's, it's of a third dimension
or something.
But I mean, even, even at mygun club, there's a house right by
the gun club, and that's up inthe mountains, like the territory.
The guy that lives thereswears to God he had one walk right

(49:46):
through his yard.
And I was ice fishing justthis past year.
And the guy said, up on theridge, one came down while he was
ice fishing.
So there's all these accounts.
I can't, I can't disprove it.
I did hear one night somethingwhen I was calling coyotes, fire
off with the coyotes.
And I rolled the window up andI left.

(50:06):
And I don't, I don't know whatit was to this day.
And I didn't want to find out.
But I think it's out there.
I, I think someday they'regonna, they'll have an answer.
You ever see that?
You know, I believe this wasdone in Oregon too.
But you remember the, theoutdoorsman guy?
What's his name?

(50:27):
Yeah, less Stroud.
Yep.
He did like before he, he didlike 20 seasons or whatever, something
like that.
I don't know of just being outthere showing survival techniques.
And then he's, Once he gotdone with that, he was kind of doing
like his own thing of doingweird things, stuff like that.
And one of his things wasgoing out to investigate.

(50:48):
Sasquatch.
Yep.
I want to say it was up inthe, in the Oregon, Washington, maybe.
It was up in the, it was up in Canada.
Canada part.
Yeah, Yeah.
I was gonna say I thought hewas in Canada.
I think he was inSaskatchewan, Canada, wasn't he?
Yes, he was.
It was up in Saskatchewan.
Yep.
And the way that they had oneof the, the locals there, I watched

(51:09):
that Episode years ago.
And the way that they weredescribing, like, no other thing
could do this.
No natural elements could dothis with wind and stuff like that.
Like something else had tohave done that with like the.
The trees.
Like the way that they werepositioned up there.
And then they had like, like agiant like canopy type thing.

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And I thought it was cool.
And it made me a believer thatsomething's out there.
Well, he had it where theywere throwing rocks into his.
Stupid fake bigfoot.
Little mini bigfoot.
They had on the video at likethe end of the show.
Oh yeah.
Where on what.
What show?
It looked like Chaka from landing.

(51:56):
Will Chaka ho check up anybody?
But yeah, like at the end ofit, they were like all like creeping
and sneaking.
And they got video and he's got.
They had like the video of the tree.
Or he's like, yeah.
Like they zoom into the treeand you could see like a little teenager.
That was just me.
Yeah.
It was like, man, you man, youhad me until you showed Taka.

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And then I was like, you.
Season.
Because it was all pretty gooddocumentary up until that point.
If they would have left thatout, it would have been really good.
And I was like, oh, they hadto ruin it with a baby bigfoot.
As you see.
Right.
See what flavor said he had.
He had a.
Something throw rocks at histent when he was in high school.

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So we were.
I was talking with Nelson andhe sent me some pretty cool pictures
a while back.
He goes up see.
See if I can find him herereal quick.
Because, you know, here.
That's one of the.
The most common thing thoughwith squatch encounters is rocks
being thrown at you.
Yeah.
That's the picture Nelson sent.

(53:05):
Holy.
Yeah.
Dang.
He's.
Wow.
That's cool.
If you look you have one there.
Then you have another one wayup here.
Holy.
That's wild.
So.
Wow.
And that's going to be.
I. I don't want to bring itup, but it's in the same area that
I'll be elk hunting.

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And he said he found that whenhe was out there scouting for me
and looking for a waterfall.
Kid still going at it.
What's he want a free camerafrom you guys?
Yeah.
I thought he got one already.
I'm sorry, man.
Mine are all in the fieldbeing used.
I'm broke.
I thought he got one.

(53:47):
Here's.
Yeah.
Brett has all my.
So yeah.
Flavors of the force justposted or made a comment.
Took that at the mountainbehind my house.
Hey, the guy we had on, like,I don't Know, five or six guys back,
Remember he was saying he wentup, he was turkey hunting, and they
got out of the woods.
Yep.

(54:07):
He was like, yeah, man.
I looked at my buddy and hewas like, is that what I think it
is?
He goes, yeah.
He goes, do we need to leave?
And the guy goes, yep.
I was like.
I was like, wow.
And that was just.
That was just out of the blue, man.
That dude just brought that upall like.
So, you know, I listen to allthese podcasts about all this crazy,
and, you know, you.

(54:27):
You hear this story of thisone guy who was, oh, I went out in
the woods and I was cooking mymeth and this goddamn bigfoot came
out and I shot him in the face.
You know, you hear all thosestories and you're like, all right,
man, whatever.
You know, it's a cool story.
But then you hear a hunter story.

(54:48):
I know, trying, but, like, you hear.
A story of a hunter, a personwho spends so much time out there.
Oh, nice.
You know, got some spread toeaction going on, man.
I did that.
I did that in our sand pile at work.
That got some serious mooseknuckle going on.

(55:11):
They're like, holy.
You see what's out in thesandbank out back?
I was like, trying to finishhis thoughts.
Nah, man, we're good.
But no, like, you hear so manystories of, like, these crazy stories
of, oh, I was out there makingmeth and redfoot, or I was out growing
my.
My weed and Bigfoot came back.
But then you hear stories ofhunters and it's like Brett said,
right?

(55:32):
Yeah, it's not Bidfoot.
It's.
I heard an owl.
That didn't really sound likean owl or Squatch.
I saw this light that.
It wasn't a headlamp.
It was just kind of floating straight.
Straight as weird.
It was strange.
It's always like, we.
We see this stuff, we reportthis stuff.
You know, we see it, we takeit in and we're like, man, that was

(55:53):
weird.
Then we don't say anythingabout it.
Then you hear other stories.
People just, you know, seeingthe exact same stuff and they're
like, oh, it was Bidfoot.
It was Bidfoot.
And then you start thinkinglike, man, what the hell was it out
there?
What was making that.
That wannabe owl sound?
Or what was that light thatwas floating through the air just

(56:14):
like that.
There's the Mothman.
Clearly it wasn't Mothman, Dave.
He's in West Virginia.
Okay, the Mothman.
Yeah.
What about the Jersey Devil?
Oh, we can get on to theJersey Devil, if you want.
Or the.
Or the Dog Man.
The Dog man is a huge.
So I was actually on a podcasttalking about Dog man not too long
ago.
I watched that one.

(56:36):
Nice.
There we go, man.
I never had nothing weirdhappen to me, dude.
I don't know.
It's all right.
You can talk about it, Dave.
It's all right.
If you want Real.
That.
That comment from my wife thatactually just made me think of, like,
yeah, the.
Who was it?
God damn it.

(56:56):
Who's that, Cody?
Who?
That's my wife.
That's your wife?
Yeah.
I thought that was your daughter.
The.
It's another kid in thebasement got the laptop.
Help me.
Please help me out.
Help me.
I'm in the basement.
The show with Cody Tripletwent from North Carolina.

(57:18):
He was telling some storiesthat made me, like, I ain't gonna
go in those mountains up inthe Appalachians, and.
Oh, you'll get raped up therejust by the hill.
Like the stories.
He said, nope, no way.
I want to go down to, like,the lbl, the land between the lakes.
Like, that's huge paranormalactivities there.
And same so like, up in theAnne Arundex or spot.

(57:40):
You know, north of Spot whereI lived and when I lived in New York,
Huge paranormal stuff up there.
And believe it or not, Brett,Dave, where we are, we're apart.
Well, not necessarily Brett,because he's further out, but, like,
you drove from St. Joe toLudington to Green Bay or not Green

(58:01):
Bay.
Minotauk in Wisconsin.
That's the Michigan Triangle.
There are more planes havedisappeared in Lake Michigan in the
Michigan Triangle than theBermuda Triangle.
I did.
Yep.
And I was on a podcast talkingabout that one day.
And Lake Michigan has a GermanU boat from World War II, a Nazi

(58:25):
submarine right off the coastof Grand Haven, believe it or not.
And then, I mean, has thelarge Lake Michigan has the largest
collection of P38 planes thanany other place right now.
Fun fact about the P38Lightning, you could stomp the floor

(58:46):
net and it would turn whateverway you wanted it to turn.
Really.
Did.
Speaking of this paranormaland owls, you ever seen the movie
the Fourth Kind?
You ever see that podcast?
Yeah, that fourth time staredthe out of me, dude.
It scared the other one out ofme, too.
Yep.
So it seemed real.

(59:09):
Like, I wanted to.
I. I strongly want to believeit, and I really do, but only because
it's extraterrestrial and it'sa movie type.
You want to get probed so bad,don't you?
With no lube, either.
Somebody had Come abduct me, please.
He wants Gojo.

(59:29):
No.
What?
They put actual clips from theactual recordings of the.
The wife and the husband.
Yeah.
The actual movie and actualdash cam video footage from the cruiser
of the.
The.
What appears to be a spaceshiphovering over the house, then abducts

(59:50):
the.
Abducts the.
The daughter, the son who wasnever seen again.
No, it was a daughter.
The son.
They abducted the daughter andthe son, to this day still thinks
the mom had something to dowith it.
Oh, that's right.
And it was years later wherethey're still.

(01:00:10):
They interviewed her at avery, like, I want to say old age,
but she was like in her 70s orsomething like that and she was in
a wheelchair and they weredoing the ending credits of it and
they said the son still hasyet to talk to.
To her, his mom, because ofthat incident.
And you know what the craziestthing about that movie is, is when

(01:00:32):
the Al.
The aliens or whatever theywere, are speaking and they have
it recorded in that therapy session.
Remember that scene?
It was an Aramaic.
Yeah.
A dead language.
Yes.
And do you remember what theywere saying?
Oh, the one when they were inthe house?
Yeah.
They're talking about howthere is no.

(01:00:54):
There's nothing after this.
There is no God, There is no peace.
We're.
We're not.
Like, once we're done, we're done.
Like, that's it.
There is nothing after this.
And it was terrifying, that,like that movie.
So that's what they're getting at.
Because I thought they werejust kind of like saying like, this
is the end for you type deal.
No, they're saying like.
Like the way that they'resaying it, like, this is the end.

(01:01:16):
Like, there is nothing after this.
Like, no matter who you prayfor, there's nothing there.
Like, there is nothing.
There's no hope.
There's no.
Like, which.
So they're basically preachingto you that there's no use on anything.
There's.
There's no use to pray or like praying.
There's nothing like that.
Jim Morrison, Aliens, this isthe end.

(01:01:38):
Yeah, right.
But what's really.
So I went down this rabbithole and what's really interesting
is have you guys ever read orlooked into Dante's Inferno?
The book?
No.
So you guys know anythingabout Dante's Inferno?
He goes through the sevenrings of hell.
Yeah, that's the extent I knowof it.

(01:02:00):
Once he gets like the veryfirst ring of hell that he goes into,
he sees a sign and it says,abandoned hope all or Abandoned hope
ye who Enter meaning once.
Once you're there, just giveup all hope.
There's no.
You're not getting out.
That's basically what thesealiens are saying.
But in Aramaic, which is thelanguage of Christ.

(01:02:21):
It's a dead language.
Yeah.
Which is funny because a lotof people are saying, like, these
aliens, these bigfoots, all ofthis stuff, it's like a nephilim
or ancient little g God.
Like the paranormal, thecryptids and religion go hand in

(01:02:41):
hand.
And so many people, once theygo down that rabbit hole and.
Or you're a giant nerd like Iam, you can start, like, connecting
it and it's.
It's trippy, man.
It's pretty crazy.
Well, in the Bible, David.
David of Goliath was a nephilim.
Yeah, yeah.
Goliath was a nephilim.
And what.
What's crazy is so manypeople, you know, you know, the flood

(01:03:04):
was to.
So, you know, you have theflood with Noah and everything like
that.
And that was to cleanse the world.
Have you ever read the, thebook of enoch?
Yeah.
So in the book of Enoch, if,if you read the old Testament up
until it's to the flood, Enoch was.
The oldest man in the Bible.
Yes.
And Enoch was one of the onlymen never to die.

(01:03:28):
God came down and got him.
Yep.
And you, you read that and Imean, there's so many coincidences.
And at what point is it not nolonger a coincidence?
Like, it's.
This is what I spend my daysat work doing.
Yeah.
Instead of actually working.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:03:48):
I did a paycheck to basicallynerd out.
Well for tonight.
Well, Dave, that was very interesting.
Welcome back, Dave, to our show.
Yeah.
Changed a little bit sinceyou've left.
Yeah.
We've done a lot of differentthings with the show since you've
been gone.
I didn't think it could getdumber, and it just did.

(01:04:08):
Well, we want to thank you fordressing appropriately with Brett's
wife beater and showing your.
Hey, we're a testament to thewhitetail advantage.
So there you go.
Perfect.
The white trash advantage.
Yeah.
Thank you for giving astraight out of Allegan's woods.
Yeah, Yeah.

(01:04:29):
I, I, we've covered bas a lotof tonight.
I feel like I free based acidor something this last half hour.
Yeah.
I feel like I got kids in mybasement right now.

(01:04:50):
Brett, you didn't want to talkabout hunting tonight, and we sure
didn't.
I think you accomplished it.
I think we talked abouthunting for a total of 10 minutes.
We talked about some trailcameras, and Michael got All annoying
with us.
And we're like, you know what?
Let's change this.
Okay.
So literally.
Oh my God.
He goes from.

(01:05:10):
He does this.
This is what Michael does.
He'll, he'll send a comment inat 9:03.
Brett, what is the monthlycost of one camera?
Literally at 905.
A million question marks.
I'm like, you give me asecond, dude, why don't.
Does this kid not know how to doodle?
Is he like that one kid out of17 million people in America who

(01:05:32):
did not know how to Google something?
He's too lazy to google.
Dude, get an iPhone.
Michael, these days, wherethey expect people that do things
for them.
Oh, that's what it is.
It's being a lazy shitbag.
He's got that white privilege.

(01:05:53):
He's got that white privilegehard, man.
I don't anymore.
I got revoked because I'm black.
No, you got the gingerprivilege, dude.
You got that soulless.
There is no ginger privilege.
I think there is gingerprivileges getting abused everywhere
you go by non g. That's the privilege.

(01:06:16):
I'm, I, I, I'm in the blackculture now.
I, I am a. Whoa.
How does that work?
Being a cop?
What do you mean, being black?
Yeah, being, being a, youknow, as a, as a ginger American.
African ginger American.
Like I've ever seen a blackredhead in my life, dude.
I, I go, I have, I have, I have.

(01:06:39):
I have.
Many more than one.
I'm not talking about dyeingyour hair.
No, no, I've seen a real one.
Yep, yep.
All right.
We're not talking about Brett, right?
No, he's bald.
Basically.
I, I cut a show tonight.
It's been.

(01:07:00):
We covered a lot.
Like I said.
Anything you guys want to saybefore I just close it out?
No, just close it out.
I think, I think I'm still tripping.
Make it in.
Yeah, I think I'm on acid.
Too bad.
I got a bad one, man.
I like the brown rainbow.
I'll say it with you guys.

(01:07:21):
Look at that frog from Beavisand Butthead.
Hey, Beavis.
You know.
You guys know what type offrog that was?
There's a bufof of toad.
It.
That's like a Bowen toad.
The bovin toad.
Yeah.
Golf courses.

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