August 20, 2025 • 56 mins
Join me, Johnny, and Dave as we dive into an open-call show where you can chat about whatever's on your mind! We'll be sharing some stories from our recent hunting trip, along with helpful tips for new hunters looking to pick up a bow. Speaking of bows, we’ll discuss the ins and outs of saddle hunting—an experience that’s surprisingly comfortable, even for those of us who don’t like heights! Plus, we’ll crack a few jokes and share some laughs along the way. Grab your favorite drink, kick back, and enjoy the ride as we connect with our listeners and tackle your questions live!
Takeaways:
- In this episode, we dive into the joys and challenges of saddle hunting, discussing how it offers both comfort and flexibility while in the tree.
- Johnny, Dave, and I share our experiences from our recent hunting trip, highlighting the unexpected lessons learned along the way.
- We offer practical advice for new hunters about selecting the right bow, emphasizing the importance of comfort and fit over brand names.
- Listeners call in to discuss their hunting stories, making this a fun and interactive episode filled with laughter and camaraderie.
- We reminisce about the early days of hunting and reflect on how much gear has evolved, making it easier for newbies to get started.
- The episode wraps up with a light-hearted banter about the upcoming fantasy football league and the prizes for the winners.
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(00:01):
Welcome to the WhitetailAdvantage podcast with your host
Brett Bovin.
Thank you for tuning in andenjoy the show.
(00:22):
You know, before we start theshow, I just have something to say.
So host Brett Bovin.
Right.
And then it should fade outand then it should be host PSE mobile
Hunter Dave at times in parentheses.
Yeah.
And then it should be AdamSquatch when he's here.
(00:43):
And then it should be me,John, the greatest co host ever.
Yeah, when he ain't got crazygoing on.
Yeah, when I don't have crazygoing on, it's John.
I. I can work something out.
I think I can fix something here.
But no intro tonight.
But I will say this though.
Machine.
No, no, no.
(01:04):
Oh, I. I was always gonna saythank you to all the men and women
in the military and thank youto all police officers and firefighters
for your service.
Thank you all the publicservice everyone for your service.
We greatly appreciate it.
Also I accept tips so I haveVenmo and Paypal if you really want
to show your appreciation.
Brett, you can tip me.
I can tip you?
Yeah.
10, 20, 30%, whatever.
(01:28):
As soon as we get to Indiana.
30% of the tip.
All right.
If this tents are rocking,don't come knocking.
That's right.
Little struggle.
A little cuddle with a struggle.
That's right.
Well tonight.
No, go ahead.
I was gonna say just tonightwe're gonna kick back and relax.
Call in show for tonight.
We'll get things started here soon.
(01:50):
The guest we had for tonight,some last second things came up with
the schedule so we're at thereschedule with him.
And I will say this thoughbecause I messaged everyone.
So we are set in our fantasyfootball lineup for a second annual
whitel advantage fantasyfootball league.
And I said that we're going tobe announcing the prizes for first,
(02:11):
second and third for tonight.
So I'm going to announce themright now.
If you come in for and I'llsay this, I'm going to win the.
So I'm going to try and figureout how I'm going to break that down
of second, third and fourth basically.
But anyways, if you come infirst place, I got to read this because
it's dark in here.
He's going to end up with theoffensive line of Tennessee Titans,
(02:33):
the defense of the Cincinnati Bengals.
He's going to get Pittsburgh's quarterback.
Who knows that's going to bethis year.
Somehow Brett drafted like thepitcher from the Detroit Tigers.
Well that would actually bepretty good if he got, you know,
what the hell is his name?
I don't know.
(02:54):
Anyway, if you come in firstplace, you get an automatic bid into
next year's league.
You get a pack of Magnusbroadheads, you get two articles
of merchandise, your choice,and you get the option to host a
Whitel Advantage live show.
I mean, it sounds like you'dhave better luck coming in last place.
(03:15):
Second place, you get a packof rec broadheads.
One article of clothing ormerchandise of your choice, and you
get to be an honorary host ofthe show.
Third place, you get onearticle of merch on us.
Option to be the guest on theshow and or pitch the topic idea
of a live show.
(03:37):
Sounds like a loser, not the winner.
Right.
But I don't know.
Did you catch it, Johnny, thatwe're all squared at the camp?
Yeah.
Yep.
You were saying that.
Yeah.
So those of you that don'tknow, we are going to be doing a
whitetail advantage huntingtrip down to southern Indiana.
Is that it?
Yep.
And that's what we're talkingabout with the whole campground and
(03:59):
everything.
Because, you know, we have alot of people who listen to the show
and they're like, well, andI've been contacted.
What are you guys alwaystalking about?
You guys have, like, inside jokes.
So allow me to be thecommentary here and I'll allow people
to know, hey, we're going tobe southern Indiana, so if you want
to stop out and see us, Idon't know why you would.
Our buddy Justin is going tobe hanging out with us for the week,
(04:21):
I think.
Yep, yep.
He'll be down there and.
Yeah, should be a fun time.
If anything.
We'll have Brett down there,we'll get him drunk off Tippy Cow
and we'll do something.
I don't know.
I haven't had Tippy Cow, TippyCow in a long time.
I was gonna say, I haven'tseen you sipping on that thing in
a couple months.
His wife cut him off.
(04:41):
I. I cut that out since February.
So, Brett, why don't we havethe phone number up for people to
call in?
Because I don't know if yousaw this.
Right.
So I posted on my story thatif someone was to call in and do
their best impersonation ofone of us, I would send them some
bowstring wax that I made.
(05:02):
It's pretty good stuff.
I mean, it's.
Yeah, it's kind of shitty.
It's made from whitetail tallow.
So it's.
You're using venison to lubeup your bows to kill more deer.
So it's Pretty cool, right?
But yeah, if anyone calls in,it's fun or does their best impersonation
of one of us or tells them,tells us a joke that I don't know
(05:25):
the punchline for, I'll sendthem one.
Michael wants one.
Well, tell us a joke that you can.
Or call us and impersonate oneof us.
We will be opening the phonelines, right?
Yeah.
Our, our.
Our buddy, the blind hunterwants to call in.
Dude, everyone calls in andget about.
(05:45):
10 minutes on the flying and just.
Find me on Instagram, send mea DM with your address and I'll mail
them out.
You're gonna have to probablysay the number because you know the
blind hunter.
Oh, yeah, because you want tocall in.
He's Stevie Wonder, blind, you know.
Phone number is 269-716-0644.
(06:06):
If you want to call in, repeat it.
269-716-0644.
And if you text GH 2025, thatwould get you linked into Brett's
Glory Hole Tour 2025 to allthe nearest truck stops around west
(06:27):
Michigan and southern Indiana.
So go ahead and touch that tothat number as well.
Hey, I was actually talking tomy boss when you posted that.
Was that pretty funny or what?
It was pretty funny.
That was funny.
I actually showed him and hegoes, what's that number again?
No, I'm excited.
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This gonna be my first.
I'm a little nervous becauseit's my first out of state trip hunt
and I'm hunting into huntingin some deep funnels and mountain
ridges, stuff like that.
So this is a first.
Been doing a lot of studyingthanks to Dave there.
He's been helping me give some.
Some lessons per se, and I'mlooking forward to it.
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I like the challenge.
As hunters, we gotta get outof our comfort zone and try new things.
It's gonna be how you can improve.
Yep.
Well, you're gonna burnprobably two or three days to try
to figure it out there anywaysyou go to.
I mean, you might get luckyand just walk up on one and go, hey,
there he is.
Boom.
But right most meantime,you're gonna.
(07:32):
Yeah, I mean, it's just goingto be a learning curve trying to
figure out where these deerare, where they're patterning, because,
you know, they're.
This is before the rut even starts.
This is, you know, they're infree fall.
I mean, they're.
They're going all over the place.
There's no patterning.
These guys.
We're down there for a weekand that's it.
Luckily it's though.
I, I, I don't, I hear people,they don't really like the beginning
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of hunting season.
I kind of like it though.
It's my second favorite timeof the year outside of the rut because
they're still, I don't likeusing the word patternable, but they
kind of are in a sense.
Yeah.
At least towards the beginning.
At least in my opinion, offthe experience.
They're pretty much, they're,they're, their main goal is bedding
(08:15):
and food.
We have a phone call.
Hey, have a phone call.
Let's see if we can get this going.
Hey, can you hear us?
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Oh, who we got on the phone line?
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Hunter is on the phone linefrom Hawkins, Michigan.
(08:36):
Oh, Michigan boy.
How's it going, brother?
It's going.
Yeah.
Well, let me ask you this.
Excited to have your ownofficial live show though in September
here soon.
That way people can hear howmy blind ass does.
(08:57):
I think it's pretty awesome myself.
Yeah, I don't want to ask toomany questions because I want to
leave.
Leave a lot of questions foryour own personal show.
But what do you want to talkabout, man?
I don't care.
I'm up to talking about anything.
Have you guys seen any gooddeer this year?
I know Johnny has.
I'll say more than you have.
(09:19):
Oh, that's for sure.
I don't know.
Hawkins has got some big deer.
It's, it's all ag there.
It's all farmland and Hawkins.
Oh, I know.
They got 80 acres of cornbehind my house.
Yep.
See, there you go, man.
So my best friend actuallydoesn't live far from me.
(09:41):
He lives off Lake Cola and 10.
There's.
Oh, I live lake over fivemiles south of 10.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Do you have a buddy that helpsyou scout?
Yes and no.
I mean, I got a buddy doesscouting up in Traverse City when
I hunt up there.
Oh, nice.
Oh, we just had a guest fromTraverse City.
(10:03):
Yeah, I got a buddy, I huntbehind Paris swamp.
Oh.
Okay.
Your buddy Dan, I might know him.
He lives south of Hawkins orsouth of 10 on Hawkins.
He lives right on Lake Ola and 10.
Dan Taglarini.
I know.
Oh, I don't know.
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I know Dan that lives downthere just south of 10 on Lake Oliver.
Okay.
Yep.
Big ball head, tattoo, goateelooking guy.
That's Dan, Italian mafia.
I probably met him.
I'm not sure, but yeah, he'scrazy as too.
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That's me.
I had A nickname.
Crazy Shame forever.
So.
Yeah.
How was the EHD in your area?
Not bad that I know of.
Nobody I said to seen or heardor anything and I didn't smell nothing
around here.
I do a lot of traveling.
Do you?
Last year me and my buddy got.
(11:05):
My buddy got a couple, threeof them open in the morning, so.
And that we've been hearingthat for more and more hunters.
The more north you go, theyhaven't been hearing it as much.
Basically like just as you'regetting the Grand Rapids line, then
that's like the cutoff.
Basically like everythingsouth of it.
Like EHD was hit hard and thenthe more north you get, there's nothing.
(11:28):
Buddy down south to Kalamazoo.
His place got hit bad last year.
Really?
Yeah.
That Is that often like Barrycounty or.
Because Brett's out and he'snear Kalamazoo.
I'm between Kalamazoo andGrand Rapids.
Dave's.
He's down there where theexpressway ends.
Oh yeah.
(11:49):
Oh, okay.
He's only like 15 minutes.
10.
15 minutes from the expresswaywhen it ends.
Okay.
He's South Kalamazoo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
So now I think I got the EHD.
He says he's got a nice 20pointer down there this year.
(12:12):
Oh, nice.
Hell yeah.
Dude, that's awesome.
John, I cut you off on your question.
I'm sorry.
So now what have you beendoing so far in the preseason?
You know, we're.
We're a little over what, twomonths away.
A little over a month and ahalf away for opening.
Yeah, I get to go next.
Yeah, I get to go next month.
I'm not trying to get into bowhunting, but I'm pretty broke right
(12:37):
now buying a truck to deerhunt, so.
Oh yeah.
Both of my crossbow to get outbow hunting with my buddies.
Oh hell yeah.
But dude, I mean I just shootguns as much as I can shoot them
to try to get a better shot.
Right.
Guns are fun.
Oh yeah.
I love guns.
(12:58):
Yeah.
I got two guns right here.
Oh yeah.
Sally and Margaret.
Hey, I haven't gone a showwith a cut off shirt in a while,
so I got.
The sun's out.
Gunzo.
Well, at least I ain't got.
Buddy.
I love it.
(13:20):
So now you're.
You're gonna hunt a Liberty hunt.
So that's something we have in common.
That we'll hunt the Liberty Hunt.
Yeah.
What's your thoughts this yearof having it being does only?
Yeah.
Bucks are on the market still.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's not.
It's.
It's not dough.
Only this year.
Oh.
I was under the impression.
(13:41):
They passed it, but then theyflipped it back.
My.
I got conservation officer.
I call because I got thatmobile big vehicle hunter.
Yeah.
And he says you can.
He says you can legally shootdeer bucks this year because too
many people were complainingabout it.
I don't need to know any.
Any more than that.
So I heard it from you.
(14:02):
I have some gear on my trailcamera I want to take out, so that's
what I'm gonna do.
So that's what they said Iheard on Michigan.
Out of doors too, so.
Nice.
I'm gonna have to look into that.
Well, no, I won't.
I just heard it from you.
I'm good.
I'll take your word for it then.
If the DNR comes to arrest you.
(14:24):
Yeah, no, yeah, if the DNRcomes to arrest me.
That's the.
Typically I won't say it, butI'll be like, you know what?
I have a purple heart, and I'ma disabled veteran.
You're gonna arrest me?
And he'll be like, shut thehell up, man.
I don't want to hear this.
Oh, I would just say, yeah,this dude in Hawkins, man, told me
I was good.
Right?
Y. Yeah, I was.
I was eyewitness to it.
(14:45):
Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
I saw everything.
He.
He saw it coming.
Yeah, he read it perfectly online.
Yeah.
Oh.
That'S awesome.
So now, you said that you dobow hunt or.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're Want to?
Want to.
I want to.
I ain't got.
(15:05):
I can't afford the bolt yetwith paid.
I mean, what little money Iget from the steak, you know?
Oh, yeah, I can't afford the bolts.
Okay, so you got a crossbow, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
What size bolts do you shoot?
Do you know?
Not offhand, but I got an oldone I'll have my buddy.
(15:27):
Do you want the measurement?
Yeah, typically they're 20inch is on average.
If you can get me just DM meor did with Brett or someone.
Brett.
You have his contactinformation you can give me?
Yeah.
I'll ditch you a pack ofwarhead bolts, man, and you just
shoot this.
(15:47):
Actually, I have a set.
And I will get you because ifI can get you out hunting, dude.
For archery season and that.
I'm a fair weather hunter.
I love hunting.
October because it's nice weather.
November 15th comes around.
If it's cold, my ass iswanting to be inside.
Right.
If I can help you tag out.
Yeah.
(16:08):
In October.
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
I'll send you some Bolts, brother.
That'd be awesome.
I was gonna say 20 inches.
Okay.
I think I got two or threedifferent sets from my kid's old
crossbow that he doesn't use anymore.
I have a set of brand newwarhead napalm crossbow bolts in
my bedroom right now.
(16:29):
So we'll ditch you out someday.
Yeah, but I can give you my.
I have emailed my phone numberand stuff, so.
Yeah, I'll get yourinformation from him and I'll ditch
you a set.
They'll be seized out.
You'll have them well beforeseason, man, so you can start practicing.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Yeah, you got to make sure thescope's dialed in.
(16:51):
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Lasers.
Well, you just do like I do in sound.
Shoot.
I used to.
I thought about it.
All right, brother, your timeis up.
We're trying to get some otherpeople on the line.
Thank you for calling in.
And hey, man, we're excited tohave you on for your own show, brother.
(17:11):
I'm excited too.
I put my cord in the slotmachine already, so.
Love you, brother.
Talk to you later, man.
It might have rejected me, butI put her in there.
You're good, buddy.
You're good.
We'll talk to you.
See you, man.
See ya.
See you.
Before we put the phone up.
Phone number up again.
I think Dave mentioned it inthe group chat of the early dough
(17:35):
season that we have here in Michigan.
Yes.
The weekend after the liberty hunt.
Yeah, it's the 2021 orsomething like that.
21st, 22nd, donkey moron.
I love hunting, but I'm alittle skeptical about that.
And this is coming from a guythat has yet to shoot a dough.
So any more chances I canshoot a dough?
Yes.
(17:55):
And do.
And I agree, yes, completely,that we have a dough population problem
and it needs to be solved.
But I don't know how I feelabout that.
Why not?
Please enlighten.
Tell us why, Mr.
I don't kill does, since thisis weird to kill does, I guess only.
Because it's out like our crew.
(18:17):
It's October 1st, and I'veonly hunted October 1st through November
14th.
And then after the.
The gun season here in Michigan.
So I. I think it's just kindof like.
It just seems odd for me to doit, like, oh, I'm not hunting in
October 1st, and it just seemsweird to be out my tree stand, like,
type deal.
I don't know.
Maybe that is it.
I.
Have you ever seen that movieold School?
(18:39):
Yes.
There's a scene right in thebeginning, right.
Where Luke Wilson's getting inthe back of a taxi, and he holds
up the seat belt, and it'slike, your.
Your seat belt doesn't seem tobe working.
Do you remember what the taxidriver says to him?
No.
You know, you're a dumbass.
No.
He's like, your.
Your seatbelt isn't working.
(19:00):
What do you suggest I do?
The taxi driver turns around,says, I suggest you quit being such
a fat bag.
You're in the back seat, all right?
You're sitting here at theDeer Hunter saying, well, there.
There's too many dough in Michigan.
What.
What do you think we should doabout it?
So then the state is like, youknow what?
We're going to open up an early.
Dough season two weeks before opener.
(19:20):
Yeah.
And then Brett's like, well, what.
What do you suggest that I do then?
Well, Brett, I suggest youquit being such a.
And don't kill a deer.
How's that?
You want to put your quarterin the slot machine to help this
deer population around here?
Go shoot one.
I'm gonna shoot one of thosetranny goes that got big antlers
(19:42):
on them.
Exactly right.
I did a dough that.
It identifies as a buck.
I'm gonna smoke that.
Them liberal deer.
Yeah.
I am gonna shoot a dough, though.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna get one.
I'm gonna shoot.
I want to shoot a dough.
Don't get me wrong.
I. I. Destiny.
I'm just pumped that I get togo before opening the season to shoot.
(20:03):
Go.
Oh, welcome to the club, bud.
I guess it's.
Maybe parts of me wants to doit in the regular season.
I get it.
Like, I'm nostalgic about thattype of thing.
I guess it's just my ownpersonal way.
Like, I've been doing so longthis way, I can't.
And I haven't accomplished itdoing it this way.
So I'm like, I'm determined, like.
No.
That I'm gonna do it this wayno matter what.
(20:23):
I don't care if it kills me.
Okay.
Mentality.
I'm going to tell you this.
If you don't kill a deer, orI'm sorry, if you don't kill a Doe
before November 1, you, me,and David and take a drive in my
truck.
Okay.
Usually after dark.
A couple hours after dark, andwe're going to get you a doe.
(20:45):
Now, any DNR officer oranything like that listening.
It doesn't sound like I'mgoing to be spotlighting.
I'm not going to be doing that.
This is just for.
For educational purpose.
Only we're going to show Brettwhat a dough looks like, because
chances are he might not knowwhat one looks like.
We have to go out at nightwith a spotlight to actually show
him what a doe looks likebecause how many trail cameras are
(21:07):
you running right now?
Zero.
Right?
No, he's got some trail camsout right now.
I got cameras out there.
Oh, okay.
But there's no deer on him, sohe doesn't know exactly what he looks
like.
He's kind of like a Mr. Madoout there.
Behind the grind is justrazzing you, dog.
I know.
I love this comment behind thegrind comment.
Brett not shooting a dough.
(21:28):
Might as well draft a defenseand fantasy on your first pick.
Joking, brother.
Yeah, I'm gonna get the firstpick in the first round.
Instead of dress draftingJamar Chase, I'm gonna draft Bill's
defense.
Yeah.
All right.
There's phone number again.
I think Dan.
Dan was gonna call in.
I think.
I don't give a.
(21:48):
The whoever gets there first,someone better.
Call in and make fun of one ofus or tell us a joke or do something.
I was already, you know, I wasroasting the blind dude.
I mean, that's pretty.
John's gonna give some freestuff if you can.
Yeah.
Give your good impression or agreat joke that we haven't heard
before.
Oh, God.
And two.
Two arm cards and a.
(22:10):
And a cop.
Good.
Oh, my God.
Is it Mike?
What the do you want?
Yo, who answers the question?
We should have just said no.
Michael's not calling in.
Oh, is this Mike?
Why not?
Why not?
Well, first of all, good God,how high pitched was that voice?
(22:33):
Call back when you grow up here.
Hey, no.
What the hell would I do?
Excuse me, guys.
Off.
No, you know what?
I. I even feel bad.
Mike.
I'm gonna send you a.
Some bowstring wax right here.
Yeah, well, don't worry,because I'm about to break Brett's
(22:55):
balls about some.
Oh, you know, breaking ballsabout some, huh?
He's gonna break my balls.
I haven't got him his birthdaygift yet.
Oh, yeah, it's a blow up dollwith holes in it already.
I was gonna put crazy.
(23:15):
I was gonna put.
I can't say it on live here.
I can't.
Can't say we're gonna send hima bag of dog.
No.
All right, hold on, Brett.
We're getting serious now.
You're a Bill Hunter.
We've seen some of your stuff.
(23:36):
You're pretty successful Hunter.
You're a huge waterfowlhunter, right?
Yeah.
You use that Benelli SuperBlack Eagle, too, if I remember right.
The one.
Oh, the one.
Okay, so what have you been doing?
Because what.
What a lot of people don'tknow is if you're listening to this.
How old are you?
You're 15, right?
15.
(23:56):
Okay.
So you're the future of thehunting generation, right?
We're.
We're the old guys.
We're trying to teach you asmuch stuff as we can.
You're learning everything.
What you have that we didn'twas YouTube.
So you're learning all thisstuff on YouTube.
You're getting this, like, youknow, oh, I see these dudes going
out smoking these 200, 180sall day, right?
(24:19):
So what have you been doing tobetter yourself so that way you can
be successful in the field?
More just listening to thetips my dad gives.
Gives me.
That's the smartest thing I'veever heard on this rate, on this
show.
I mean, listening to your dad,your grandpa, and any old timer.
(24:40):
And I'm not saying.
Oh, absolutely.
That is amazing.
Now, here's a tip for thosewho are watching right now.
And this is for the fishing side.
And this is going to besomething that I'm going to teach
everyone here.
My grandpa taught me this whenI was little.
When you go to catch a fishand you measure it right, it's always
(25:02):
between the thumbs.
Your fingers are up, but it'salways between the thumbs.
So I caught a blue tail aboutthat big, right?
It's really that bad, but youdo it between your thumbs.
That's.
That's a tip for me.
But.
Yeah.
Anyways, that's.
What the.
Are you talking about?
Well, you don't fish, Brett,so shut up.
I do fish, but you measure itfrom your thumbs.
(25:25):
He can't even shoot a do, sohe's got no clue what you're talking
about.
So are you running trailcameras right now?
You are, right, Mike?
I'm wa.
I got to put one out right now.
I just bought a tactic cam.
What?
A few weeks ago.
There we go.
Michael.
Yeah, I saw it.
Yeah, that was a good one,too, man.
That.
That's a good one.
(25:47):
Now are you.
Oh, go ahead.
I'm sorry.
No, you.
No, I just.
I. I gotta.
I just gotta, you know, figureout a few things on it, you know,
and play around with it more.
Right on.
I can send you the screenshotsof the settings that I use.
Michael.
Yeah.
Can you please?
Actually, yeah, I can do that.
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If you just set them up inyour yard and play with it, too.
Set it On a tree when you're outside.
That's what I was gonna do,but I've been so goddamn busy.
Yeah, it's got to be a. Yeah, yeah.
See, I've been doing.
Go ahead, go ahead, Johnny.
No, this is.
This is something that's amazing.
We have a 15 year old on herewho's passionate about hunting, who
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bust his ass working.
I mean, we give you my dad, wereally do.
But man, deep down, like, Igive it back, so.
Absolutely.
So on that note, I'm not goingto say anything bad because your
parents are probably our ageand they're like, what the hell?
But probably your age.
Not my age, but I mean, no,dude, you're the future of hunting.
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And anything that you'redoing, like, let us know what you
know.
Do you get your friends.
Are all your friends involvedin hunting too?
Do they hunt?
Do they fish?
Do they spend time outdoors?
Just one.
Just one.
Okay.
Just one of them.
Rest are all.
They're gamers.
Yeah.
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Yep.
That's a shame.
Now, so when you and yourbuddies go out into the woods or
you guys go out and set, like,tree stands out.
Are you hunting private?
Public.
What do you do?
Private.
Okay, perfect.
So now do you guys get to goout and set up tree stands together
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and just like, basically dowhat we do, but as kids kind of.
Yeah.
You know, go out with our dadand we'll go just, you know, do some.
Dude, that's awesome, man.
That's awesome.
And if I can give you onepiece of advice is quit listening
to the show because we may ormay not have just been talking about
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spotlighting deer at night,but, man, no, that's.
That's awesome, man.
I'm glad to hear that thefuture generation isn't totally lost
and that.
Yeah, they're still out therehunting, getting it done and wanting
to learn.
And more importantly, lessons from.
From your dad, your uncle, allof that.
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That's awesome.
Yeah, a lot of them arescrewed up, but there's still a few
good ones.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Let me ask you this.
Brett is a little.
Yeah, we're all questions.
Yeah.
Michael, let me ask you thisquestion that.
What's one thing, though,that's kind of been like trying to
figure out a phrase questionthat you've been kind of stumped
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on that you feel like you,like, you're like, it's a weak part
of your quote unquote game ofyour hunting game that you're trying
to improve upon and you justdon't know which way to go about
doing it.
Well, I know I need to improveon bow hunting.
I'm, you know, I gotta just domore practice because I haven't really
worked on that.
Just because you're too busy.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
But I gotta start taking sometime to do that.
One thing I want to try.
You know, I do the gunhunting, but I want to get into the
bow hunting.
Yeah.
One thing coming from a guythat has.
That runs this.
I have two kids, a full timejob and personal stuff I gotta do
outside of everything.
So if you saw my schedule,it's cramped.
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Just shut the up, Johnny.
Carve out at least half anhour a day.
Just half hour a day at a minimum.
And shoot 20.
Do it correctly though.
Focus on form.
But make sure that those 20arrows are legit, that they're perfect.
Yep.
How many I gotta try to make?
You can even do 10 arrows.
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You can shoot 10 arrows at 10 yards.
Yep.
Just shoot 10 arrows at 10 yards.
Not even really focusing on anything.
Nope.
Trying to aim at a spot.
Just practice shooting.
Yep.
You can spend five minutesjust shooting and you don't have
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to do anything else.
And then when you get moretime, spend more time actually hitting
a spot.
And then I would actuallysuggest once you get that is if you
got a ladder stand orsomewhere where you can sit six,
seven feet off the ground andshoot at a target.
Shooting elevated.
Yeah, we could just set one upin the backyard.
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That's what we do.
Yep.
I would do that.
And if you got a 3D target,don't shoot at targets anymore.
Other than a deer target.
Yep.
And practice aiming.
You gotta do.
Yep.
Because.
Yeah, we do.
Yeah.
I generally when I do, when Istart practicing, you know, it's
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been busted up around July iswhen I start getting my.
I go from the.
The targets to the 3D.
So that way my eye startsgetting adjusted to that picture
of a deer silhouette type deal.
Yep.
So now also would you guys dorec broadheads or magnus?
Either or with your boundage.
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You definitely should stickwith the fixed.
Yep.
Until you can get above £60.
At least.
60 and up.
Yep.
And when it gets to thedifference of like ma.
Like not even the brands butlike fixed mechanical.
That's the big debate reallyof like what should I use?
Do I use a fixed one?
Use a mechanical?
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You know what Fixed a fixed what?
This is what I was going tosay to Mike.
What you should do is go outand did a 125 grain muzzy.
Like that's, that's thebroadhead you should use.
Muzzy.
I mean we all have ourbroadheads that we shoot, that we,
you know, the companies thatwe represent.
But I almost guarantee you,maybe minus Brett, Dave and I probably
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grew up shooting muzzy broadheads.
They're an amazing broadheadfor the price point for you.
Starting off, they're going tobe just great.
And this is going to put adeer down for sure.
And it's not going to breakthe bank.
That's key right there.
But if you're working like a,like you are.
Yeah.
You're going to want.
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The thing that most matter outof all broadheads is the sharpness.
Exactly.
You're going to want somethingthat's super sharp.
Yeah.
No, you might have to get by abroadhead and your dad might have
to touch them up for you.
Because any broadhead I pullout of the box, I, I, I, I touch
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them up.
There's been very fewbroadheads out of the box that are
like, will make you bleed justby touching it.
Well, Michael, that's our timefor tonight.
We do give you a shit, though,but we love you.
I'm sure Brett has your address.
I'll throw you out somebowstring wax.
Yeah, well, listen, Brettneeds to go kill a doe.
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As soon as he does, we'll takepictures and send it to you, man.
Yeah, it'll be on the news.
Don't worry.
There'll be a miracle happening.
You need a cup of tippy cowand a dove.
I love this kid.
A cup of tipping.
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But we, we won't hold thatagainst you.
All right, Michael, we'll talkto you later, brother.
All right, man.
Have a good one, brother.
Have a good night, buddy.
Begin with but that's a Garykid, man.
Yep.
I think we got one more time for.
Time for one more caller.
Well, yeah, I will, I will saythis, though.
The blind hunter made a, Ajoke here, though.
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Yeah.
He said, how did Stevie Warnermeet his wife?
He hasn't.
Oh, a blind date.
Oh, that's a good one.
That was good.
I like it.
All right, one more phone call.
One more.
Dude, I got all night.
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Let's do this.
There we go.
There we go.
Phone lines are back open again.
There's the phone number ifyou want to call in.
Did you see the basically theto bring list that Brett made up?
Oh, God.
Whenever Brett sends me anemail, it goes right to spam.
Yeah, I, I saw something likea packing list of what to bring to.
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Just the essential stuff for a hunt.
But yeah, like, I have a box here.
Watch this.
Watch this.
In decline.
Who is that squash scratch.
Oh yeah.
So.
But I have a box I have todrill out tomorrow for Orden for
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my hunt.
Which is a giant tough box.
So I'm pretty much just goingto keep that all together and bring
it out there.
He's gonna hang up on you?
Yep.
Yo, I'm surprised he didn't.
Hey.
Yo, what is going on?
Squatch is calling in.
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What are you doing, brother?
I can.
I can hear him echoing.
So what are you doing jacked up?
What are you doing?
You beating up little 13 yearolds online?
No, 15 year olds.
Get your facts straight.
We wait till they're at least 15.
Before we exactly, at leastknow some self defense.
Geez, I'm out of this conversation.
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Jesus.
Thanks.
Because remember the othernight it went out?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I had the cable company here.
That's why I'm not on with you guys.
But so they, they ran new wireto the house, right?
Hooks everything up, brings ina new modem.
That new modem don't work.
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So he plugs my old modem back in.
The old modem fires right up.
Works.
I said, well, it was probablybecause the signal was screwed up
from the old wire outside.
He's like, yeah, it's a possibility.
He's like, but you shouldreally get a new modem anyway.
Just keep it up to date.
So I had a couple seconds.
I've seen you guys harassing Michael.
And then he said call in.
So I called in.
Well, there you go.
Well, I'll send you out of Bowstring.
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Oh, you already have some,don't you?
Yeah, I got.
I thought it was chapstick, remember?
Oh that's right, you did.
I was like man, Johnny sent me.
This wide lip chapstick forlike gingers.
Like Brett those Bowstring wax.
But yeah, it works for chaps.
It too if you want.
It does work.
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And it's got a nice piny flavor.
Yeah, yeah.
So I got my electric.
I got my electric bike.
I put that all together tonight.
That thing's pretty sick.
It's.
It's not.
I don't know, it's not fullycharged yet.
So I don't know what it'stotally capable of doing.
But I was ripping around theroads and some woods up here.
That's cool.
Do you.
Do you mind if we open thephone lines to people that actually
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give a about this show andshow up?
Dude, I don't think anybody.
I don't think you're gonnafind anybody.
But you can try.
He was trying to save us.
You gotta remember Brett, between.
Besides you, Spotch is the onethat's on here the most.
Dave and I are like hit ormiss, so.
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Squatch is a Die Hard throughand through.
That is true.
So that is true.
He's basically the second realsecond host of this show.
Yeah.
Why don't you say you're sorry?
Okay.
Apologize.
I'm sorry, Squatch.
Yeah, yeah.
Have a little respect, Boven,for your elders right now.
Give him your mom's number.
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Yeah, he's already got.
I already got that.
That's.
That's already done and over with.
I'm moving on to bigger andbrighter horizons.
There you go.
Yeah, like Johnny's girl.
Anyways.
All right, let's move on.
Go ahead.
I just wanted to annoy thecrap out of you for five minutes
because I wasn't on there tonight.
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But you boys stay sassy.
All right, brother.
We do our best, brother.
Well, we'll see you on thenext show hopefully, though, right?
Yeah, yeah, I'll be.
I'll be watching anyway, so doyour best to kind of act funny.
We'll try to act professional.
All right.
All right.
See you, brother.
See ya.
All right.
See you brothers later.
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All right.
I didn't know you could cut out.
Dial up, man.
We'll give you one more phone call.
Oh, someone better call andtell us a joke.
No one calls in the next 30 seconds.
Then we'll just call it.
What?
No.
What time is it?
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We just said that time.
I know.
I'm just making a joke.
You got a joke, Brett?
No.
Not one politically correctfor this show.
Well, here's a joke.
Brett's honey season.
All right, Brett.
Yeah.
So last night, you and I weretalking on the phone.
We FaceTimed.
Oh, boy.
You.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, it got a little personal here.
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Brett got a new saddle from Epsop.
He got the Mutant just like I did.
And he's like.
He opened it up and he's like,hey, what's all this here, right?
Being a brand new saddlehunter is kind of overwhelming.
You have all this stuff I gotto know knots, and you're like, what
the hell am I doing?
So he FaceTimed me, and I wasable to walk it through him.
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And I had a. I had to dumb itdown a little bit, right?
Bring it back to my roots tohelp him out here.
But.
So last night was your firsttime in a comfortable saddle?
Hanging in a tree, not veryfar off the ground, but you got the
gist of it.
What.
What's your thoughts of it?
Love it.
Absolutely love it.
Like Damn.
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I've been.
I wouldn't say I've been,like, pushing it off because it's
like, you know how, like,Breaking Bad came out?
And it's like, it came out andthen everyone's like, talking all
this about, oh, Breaking Bad's amazing.
And then you're like, nah, Idon't want to watch it.
Because everyone seems beingthat type of.
Yeah.
Now I joined the club withsaddle hunting.
I'm like, man, why the.
Haven't been doing this for awhile now.
Now what's your favorite part?
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Like, why do you like it so much?
I know why I like saddle hunting.
But why do you like it?
I. I think because it justgives me the option to just.
I think I hear a lot ofpeople, they move around too much,
but it gives me the ability tojust, first off, the comfortability
of it.
It felt just amazing.
And everyone's like, well, you're.
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You're basically being heldtogether by a net, in a sense, and
a small net on your ass.
How safe can that really besitting in that?
You told me to go hang upsidedown, basically.
Yeah, I felt so secure to thatwith just this little tiny rope.
I'm afraid of heights.
I'm deadly afraid of heights.
Like, going up my tree standwhere I sit at now is like 17ft off
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the ground.
And I'm.
And then I'm like, when Imove, I move like this.
Like, I had to get a 360 standjust to feel.
Otherwise I'd be sitting in aladder stand because I. I'm that
much afraid of heights.
And I feel like I have noproblem climbing up 20ft up in the
air and hanging on by a pieceof rope.
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So what you just said there iswhat I've been trying to, like, get
people into saddle hunting forthat reason.
Having faith and trust in yourequipment, right?
You were just on the ground.
I showed you how to tie off,how to set it up, how to be secured
to the tree.
I know not to cut you off.
I did have some small trainingfrom the police academy.
We did had to learn some ropesand rappelling and stuff like that.
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So I do have some experiencewith it.
Not like you do, but outsideof that small knowledge, I did feel
a lot safer after talking with you.
And you have that warm andfuzzy feeling.
You're like, okay, I'm in a saddle.
I'm hanging here.
You're comfortable.
And then one of the very firstthings I did is, okay, now lean all
the way over.
Okay, now lean upside down.
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Like, flip Upside down, likeyou're gonna grab something or like
you're gonna fall becausefirst of all, you're close to the
ground.
So you're, you don't have thatfear of falling from 30ft up or however
high you are.
But yet it's also it, it's nota, a natural feeling.
Like you, you're flippingupside down, you're, you're gonna
be freaking out.
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If you can do that whileyou're on the, you know, close enough
to the ground where you psychyourself out where you're not gonna
fall, you start trusting yourequipment more.
So now you're, you're paintingupside down and you're having fun
with it because you see theground right there.
You're not gonna hurt yourself.
And you know that now.
So now you're having fun with it.
You're flipping around, you'redoing all this crazy that you wouldn't
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normally be doing in a treestand in a saddle, you know, especially
deer hunting.
But now you're, you'recomfortable with it.
You're, you're like, I'm notgonna fall, I'm not gonna die.
And that was the thing thatgot me into saddle hunting was I
used it and I started messingaround with it and I started, I did
that whole upside down thingwhere I flipped upside down and I'm
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like, I, I, I didn't fall outof the seat.
This is fine.
I'm safe now.
When you're up 18, 20ft in theair or higher, you, you're on that
platform.
That's why I'm a one stickclimbing guy.
I, I will lean all the wayover, grab the stick, bring it up
and just keep climbing like that.
But having that faith and thattrust in your equipment to know that
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you're going to be up in theair, it's not going to fail you.
XOP makes fantastic products.
It's just amazing.
We're not just saying XOPmakes fantastic products because
we work with them.
No, they like we say all thetime if we've teamed up with a company,
it's because we fuckingbelieve in their shit.
And they make legit.
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Absolutely.
You can look in my closet andI have five or six different products
of gear from saddles to sticksto ropes to whatever.
And it's, you start off withwhat you can afford and then you
go all the way up to like thehigh end name brand stuff and you're
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like, well, this is ridiculous.
I'm spending 300 on a saddleand I did my SOP mutant saddle and
I put it on, I'm like, this isso much better.
And you can tell because it'sa product made by hunters for hunters.
It's not made by banters in ahunting company.
It's.
And Justin just commentedright now, that's a piece of working
(44:23):
man's equipment.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And they want their, their,their stuff high quality but yet
everybody can afford to buy it.
Exactly.
And you can tell in thisindustry there's companies out there,
there's, you know, arrowcompanies, bow companies, just, just
hunting comp or huntingproducts in general.
(44:43):
You can tell which ones aremade by bankers and business owners
who just want to make a lot ofmoney from it versus product that
is created by a hunter.
I'm a pro staffer for Warhead Arrows.
I talk to Jason all the time.
The dude's a down to earth guywho made a quality arrow arrow that
well, I, I will shoot againstany other arrow.
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It's amazing.
Sop their product is morecomfortable, more price efficient
than I've ever spent.
Like, it's amazing.
And it's so much user friendlyis there.
It's just an amazing overall product.
And that, that's thedifference between a lot of companies
out there.
(45:25):
These, these companies thatare out there charging.
Well, you looked at Hoyt, right?
I used to shoot Hoyt all the time.
What is the RX10 just came out.
It has the least amount oftechnology in that bow.
And it's the very first bowthat's over two grand.
Bear.
Like.
Yeah, that's.
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And you're just like, why?
Oh, it's because it has thosefour letters.
Like it's a Hoyt.
That's it.
But anymore or any, any bownowadays is going to do the same
thing from pse like Daveshoots Elite that I shoot or Matthews
that Brett shoots.
You know, even bear.
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Bear, yeah, bear.
I mean, being I grew up on bear.
Oh.
Being from Michigan, Iguarantee you all three of us have
a bear either in our closetright now or we grew up shooting
them.
Whitetail hunter too.
And still mine.
Bear BR33, it's still down there.
I got a BTR32 in, in thegarage that my oldest shot.
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And then my.
I got a bear lights out.
And I got a 1953 Bear Montanain my closet.
Lawn boat that I'm gonna usethis year on a dough.
Brett, I hope to shoot adough, I swear.
But like you were sayingthough, I think there's a lot of.
If you're getting intohunting, I mean we talk about, we
try to do On a show where thatwe talk about things where everyone.
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If you're just getting intohunting or you've been a hunter for
20 years, we try to breakthings down for everyone on every
scale, on every level of ahunter that you could possibly be.
If you're just getting intohunting and you might be not, not
seeing it right away in thehunting world, if you've been in
here for five years, there isa galore of hunting companies.
For every product on themarket, purchase broadheads, arrows,
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fletchings, bows, saddles,tree stands, you're gonna have like
10 companies per one single product.
Now when you're trying, thenyou start figuring out like, well,
now I'm just feeling bombardedwith like, what, what company do
I get, what brand do I get,what's this or that?
And blah, blah, blah, blah.
Take a second, take a deepbreath and just do your research
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on each individual one.
And that's at a basic, that'swhat you can do.
If you have any questions oflike, hey, ask us and we can say,
hey, I'm looking between thisproduct and this product.
What are, what are you guys, opinions?
We can give you our two centsof advice on what we think and our
experiences with it, but atthe end of the day, you're gonna
have to pick one and you'regonna have your bad experiences.
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Just like Johnny, have anyonein hunting you bought a product thinking
it was going to be great andit turned out to be, it's going to
happen.
No matter research you do oranything like that, it's going to
happen and.
There'S going to be productsthat are still good, but they just
don't seem to like fit you per se.
It's like the main reason Iwent to XOP was because of their
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standoffs.
Because the other two brandsof sticks that I had before I really,
it was uncomfortable going way up.
When your feet are sideways oryou're on basically just inside the
knuckles of your toes going upbecause your toes are hitting a tree.
And then in the 5 inchstandoffs, I mean you can just basically
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it's like walking a ladder up.
It's so much more comfortable.
Just because something ispriced extremely high doesn't mean
it's the best.
I mean there's people I've,I've heard on YouTube videos where
they said, yeah, they wentinto this just for getting a new
bow.
They went into an archery shopand they're thinking, oh, I want
to try the new Hoya, I want totry the new Matthews.
Next thing you Know they'releaving with a bow tech or a PSE
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bow.
They felt 10 times better.
Not because of the price.
They saved the money becausethey were expecting to get a Hoyt
or a Matthews bow.
And that's what I love, those bows.
And they worked.
They shot better with thembecause they're 10 times smoother
for their setup.
Yeah, probably the mock seriestoo, because they won two years in
a row.
Bow of the year.
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Well, I mean, minus Dave over there.
PSE mobile hunter, who, ifyou're in the West Michigan area,
come by Saturday at long rangearchery to hang out with old Chuck.
Chuck.
Yeah, I'll be there.
Working there.
I'll be there.
I'm not buying and see him.
So.
But no, the best thing aboutyou or the best thing you can do
is go to your local archeryshop and shoot every single bow that
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you want.
Yep.
And when I was in the marketfor a new bow, I went down to long
range and I had a list of bowsin my head.
I went down there, I was like,hey, do you have this, this, this,
and this?
And he's like, matter of fact,I do.
My first response was becausenow I'm gonna shoot them all.
Now I'm gonna walk home withone or go home with one.
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And sure enough, I did.
I. I shot all the ones that Iwanted, and I shot the one that I
wanted and shot the elite erathat I have now.
And he's like, we can swap itout with performance mods and they'll
customize it any way you want.
And dude, it was.
Yeah, I shot so many bows that day.
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And I was like, yep, this is it.
Like, this is the one I feelcomfortable with.
I love it.
Go ahead and let's pick out asite and do all the other stuff for
it.
So another piece of advice,don't go in expecting you want one
thing.
Oh, go in there.
Go in there thinking, you know what?
I'm open to suggestions.
And go in there and not evendoing any research of any bows, like,
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hey, I want to get a new bow.
That way you're not biased toone particular thing.
Because I can tell you this.
When the lift was coming out,I was dead set.
I wanted to get the that onebecause I like Matthews.
Don't get me wrong, it'sexpensive brand, but I love the way
Matthew's been.
They're set up with their bows.
It works great for me.
I shot everything on a bow.
(51:17):
There's something I likedabout them and things I would do.
Anyways, I went in there I waslike, oh, I want to get the lift.
It came out great.
Got it.
Hated it.
Yep.
Took a.
Took a week.
I went to my local archeryshop because I went to long range.
That's where I went to.
I was up in that area.
I was like, you know what?
Fuck it, I want to try it.
I'm going to see how it goes.
I said, nope, I didn't like it.
I went back to my home archeryshop, which is bow that I have now.
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Cruising his archery Cruising dress.
Yep.
Oh, they're amazing.
Love them.
I love them.
Grew up with those guys.
Yep.
I asked them, hey, do you havethe Matthews phase four that came
out the year it came out on after.
Got it.
Loved it instantaneously.
Oh, here's my new bow.
Yep.
So don't go into the archery shop.
You're getting a new bow.
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Try thinking you don't have noidea what bows are out there and
try a galore of them.
Anyways, that's our 2 cents ona lot of stuff.
But we can get into that stuffon our next show because we're going
to be talking on our ne onSunday show.
It's going to be the team andwe're going to give you our tips
and tricks and how to be alittle bit more successful out in
the hunting season this year.
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But before we go, I want toannounce the prizes again because
Marsh Boys, they are in thefantasy football league and.
And they just tuned in sothey're looking for the prizes.
So I'm going to announce themone more time.
If you come in first place,which is going to be me, you get
an automatic bid into nextyear's league.
You get a pack of MagnusBroadheads, you get two articles
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Advantage live show.
I'm in second place.
You get a pack of RecBroadheads, you get one merchandise
product from us and you get tobe an honorary guest of the Whitetail
Vanish live show.
I'm in third place.
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You still get one article ofmerchandise on us.
You get the option to be aguest on the show and.
Or pick the topic of a liveshow and a guest.
There we go.
So we got some good things andnext year we might.
It's a free.
So with the fancy footballleague trying it out worked great
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the first time and this is oursecond time doing it.
It's a free buy in.
So anyone who wants to join,we open it up the first Sunday in.
In June of every year saying,hey, we're going to open it up again
next year, we might just pitchin five bucks or something like that.
That way, put some money onthe line.
Maybe.
Maybe.
It all depends on how Brett'sdraft goes this year.
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That's right.
Yeah, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna draft a kicker on myfirst pick.
Anyways, guys, that's gonna beit for us.
Yeah.
For tonight.
All right.
Yeah.
That was fun.
I love talking to blind hunterright there.
Michael calling in little shit bag.
But we love them.
Yeah.
New callers.
Yeah, new callers.
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Thank you for tuning in toanother episode of the Whitetail
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We hope you enjoyed the showand we will see you next time.
Welcome to the WhitetailAdvantage podcast with your host
Brett Bovin.
Thank you for tuning in andenjoy the show.
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You know, before we start theshow, I just have something to say.
So host Brett Bovin.
Right.
And then it should fade outand then it should be host PSE mobile
Hunter Dave at times in parentheses.
Yeah.
And then it should be AdamSquatch when he's here.
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And then it should be me,John, the greatest co host ever.
Yeah, when he ain't got crazygoing on.
Yeah, when I don't have crazygoing on, it's John.
I. I can work something out.
I think I can fix something here.
But no intro tonight.
But I will say this though.
Machine.
No, no, no.
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Oh, I. I was always gonna saythank you to all the men and women
in the military and thank youto all police officers and firefighters
for your service.
Thank you all the publicservice everyone for your service.
We greatly appreciate it.
Also I accept tips so I haveVenmo and Paypal if you really want
to show your appreciation.
Brett, you can tip me.
I can tip you?
Yeah.
10, 20, 30%, whatever.
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As soon as we get to Indiana.
30% of the tip.
All right.
If this tents are rocking,don't come knocking.
That's right.
Little struggle.
A little cuddle with a struggle.
That's right.
Well tonight.
No, go ahead.
I was gonna say just tonightwe're gonna kick back and relax.
Call in show for tonight.
We'll get things started here soon.
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The guest we had for tonight,some last second things came up with
the schedule so we're at thereschedule with him.
And I will say this thoughbecause I messaged everyone.
So we are set in our fantasyfootball lineup for a second annual
whitel advantage fantasyfootball league.
And I said that we're going tobe announcing the prizes for first,
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second and third for tonight.
So I'm going to announce themright now.
If you come in for and I'llsay this, I'm going to win the.
So I'm going to try and figureout how I'm going to break that down
of second, third and fourth basically.
But anyways, if you come infirst place, I got to read this because
it's dark in here.
He's going to end up with theoffensive line of Tennessee Titans,
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the defense of the Cincinnati Bengals.
He's going to get Pittsburgh's quarterback.
Who knows that's going to bethis year.
Somehow Brett drafted like thepitcher from the Detroit Tigers.
Well that would actually bepretty good if he got, you know,
what the hell is his name?
I don't know.
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Anyway, if you come in firstplace, you get an automatic bid into
next year's league.
You get a pack of Magnusbroadheads, you get two articles
of merchandise, your choice,and you get the option to host a
Whitel Advantage live show.
I mean, it sounds like you'dhave better luck coming in last place.
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Second place, you get a packof rec broadheads.
One article of clothing ormerchandise of your choice, and you
get to be an honorary host ofthe show.
Third place, you get onearticle of merch on us.
Option to be the guest on theshow and or pitch the topic idea
of a live show.
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Sounds like a loser, not the winner.
Right.
But I don't know.
Did you catch it, Johnny, thatwe're all squared at the camp?
Yeah.
Yep.
You were saying that.
Yeah.
So those of you that don'tknow, we are going to be doing a
whitetail advantage huntingtrip down to southern Indiana.
Is that it?
Yep.
And that's what we're talkingabout with the whole campground and
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everything.
Because, you know, we have alot of people who listen to the show
and they're like, well, andI've been contacted.
What are you guys alwaystalking about?
You guys have, like, inside jokes.
So allow me to be thecommentary here and I'll allow people
to know, hey, we're going tobe southern Indiana, so if you want
to stop out and see us, Idon't know why you would.
Our buddy Justin is going tobe hanging out with us for the week,
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I think.
Yep, yep.
He'll be down there and.
Yeah, should be a fun time.
If anything.
We'll have Brett down there,we'll get him drunk off Tippy Cow
and we'll do something.
I don't know.
I haven't had Tippy Cow, TippyCow in a long time.
I was gonna say, I haven'tseen you sipping on that thing in
a couple months.
His wife cut him off.
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I. I cut that out since February.
So, Brett, why don't we havethe phone number up for people to
call in?
Because I don't know if yousaw this.
Right.
So I posted on my story thatif someone was to call in and do
their best impersonation ofone of us, I would send them some
bowstring wax that I made.
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It's pretty good stuff.
I mean, it's.
Yeah, it's kind of shitty.
It's made from whitetail tallow.
So it's.
You're using venison to lubeup your bows to kill more deer.
So it's Pretty cool, right?
But yeah, if anyone calls in,it's fun or does their best impersonation
of one of us or tells them,tells us a joke that I don't know
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the punchline for, I'll sendthem one.
Michael wants one.
Well, tell us a joke that you can.
Or call us and impersonate oneof us.
We will be opening the phonelines, right?
Yeah.
Our, our.
Our buddy, the blind hunterwants to call in.
Dude, everyone calls in andget about.
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10 minutes on the flying and just.
Find me on Instagram, send mea DM with your address and I'll mail
them out.
You're gonna have to probablysay the number because you know the
blind hunter.
Oh, yeah, because you want tocall in.
He's Stevie Wonder, blind, you know.
Phone number is 269-716-0644.
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If you want to call in, repeat it.
269-716-0644.
And if you text GH 2025, thatwould get you linked into Brett's
Glory Hole Tour 2025 to allthe nearest truck stops around west
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Michigan and southern Indiana.
So go ahead and touch that tothat number as well.
Hey, I was actually talking tomy boss when you posted that.
Was that pretty funny or what?
It was pretty funny.
That was funny.
I actually showed him and hegoes, what's that number again?
No, I'm excited.
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This gonna be my first.
I'm a little nervous becauseit's my first out of state trip hunt
and I'm hunting into huntingin some deep funnels and mountain
ridges, stuff like that.
So this is a first.
Been doing a lot of studyingthanks to Dave there.
He's been helping me give some.
Some lessons per se, and I'mlooking forward to it.
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I like the challenge.
As hunters, we gotta get outof our comfort zone and try new things.
It's gonna be how you can improve.
Yep.
Well, you're gonna burnprobably two or three days to try
to figure it out there anywaysyou go to.
I mean, you might get luckyand just walk up on one and go, hey,
there he is.
Boom.
But right most meantime,you're gonna.
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Yeah, I mean, it's just goingto be a learning curve trying to
figure out where these deerare, where they're patterning, because,
you know, they're.
This is before the rut even starts.
This is, you know, they're infree fall.
I mean, they're.
They're going all over the place.
There's no patterning.
These guys.
We're down there for a weekand that's it.
Luckily it's though.
I, I, I don't, I hear people,they don't really like the beginning
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of hunting season.
I kind of like it though.
It's my second favorite timeof the year outside of the rut because
they're still, I don't likeusing the word patternable, but they
kind of are in a sense.
Yeah.
At least towards the beginning.
At least in my opinion, offthe experience.
They're pretty much, they're,they're, their main goal is bedding
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and food.
We have a phone call.
Hey, have a phone call.
Let's see if we can get this going.
Hey, can you hear us?
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Oh, who we got on the phone line?
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Gotcha.
Hunter is on the phone linefrom Hawkins, Michigan.
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Oh, Michigan boy.
How's it going, brother?
It's going.
Yeah.
Well, let me ask you this.
Excited to have your ownofficial live show though in September
here soon.
That way people can hear howmy blind ass does.
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I think it's pretty awesome myself.
Yeah, I don't want to ask toomany questions because I want to
leave.
Leave a lot of questions foryour own personal show.
But what do you want to talkabout, man?
I don't care.
I'm up to talking about anything.
Have you guys seen any gooddeer this year?
I know Johnny has.
I'll say more than you have.
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Oh, that's for sure.
I don't know.
Hawkins has got some big deer.
It's, it's all ag there.
It's all farmland and Hawkins.
Oh, I know.
They got 80 acres of cornbehind my house.
Yep.
See, there you go, man.
So my best friend actuallydoesn't live far from me.
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He lives off Lake Cola and 10.
There's.
Oh, I live lake over fivemiles south of 10.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Do you have a buddy that helpsyou scout?
Yes and no.
I mean, I got a buddy doesscouting up in Traverse City when
I hunt up there.
Oh, nice.
Oh, we just had a guest fromTraverse City.
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Yeah, I got a buddy, I huntbehind Paris swamp.
Oh.
Okay.
Your buddy Dan, I might know him.
He lives south of Hawkins orsouth of 10 on Hawkins.
He lives right on Lake Ola and 10.
Dan Taglarini.
I know.
Oh, I don't know.
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I know Dan that lives downthere just south of 10 on Lake Oliver.
Okay.
Yep.
Big ball head, tattoo, goateelooking guy.
That's Dan, Italian mafia.
I probably met him.
I'm not sure, but yeah, he'scrazy as too.
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That's me.
I had A nickname.
Crazy Shame forever.
So.
Yeah.
How was the EHD in your area?
Not bad that I know of.
Nobody I said to seen or heardor anything and I didn't smell nothing
around here.
I do a lot of traveling.
Do you?
Last year me and my buddy got.
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My buddy got a couple, threeof them open in the morning, so.
And that we've been hearingthat for more and more hunters.
The more north you go, theyhaven't been hearing it as much.
Basically like just as you'regetting the Grand Rapids line, then
that's like the cutoff.
Basically like everythingsouth of it.
Like EHD was hit hard and thenthe more north you get, there's nothing.
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Buddy down south to Kalamazoo.
His place got hit bad last year.
Really?
Yeah.
That Is that often like Barrycounty or.
Because Brett's out and he'snear Kalamazoo.
I'm between Kalamazoo andGrand Rapids.
Dave's.
He's down there where theexpressway ends.
Oh yeah.
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Oh, okay.
He's only like 15 minutes.
10.
15 minutes from the expresswaywhen it ends.
Okay.
He's South Kalamazoo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Gotcha.
So now I think I got the EHD.
He says he's got a nice 20pointer down there this year.
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Oh, nice.
Hell yeah.
Dude, that's awesome.
John, I cut you off on your question.
I'm sorry.
So now what have you beendoing so far in the preseason?
You know, we're.
We're a little over what, twomonths away.
A little over a month and ahalf away for opening.
Yeah, I get to go next.
Yeah, I get to go next month.
I'm not trying to get into bowhunting, but I'm pretty broke right
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now buying a truck to deerhunt, so.
Oh yeah.
Both of my crossbow to get outbow hunting with my buddies.
Oh hell yeah.
But dude, I mean I just shootguns as much as I can shoot them
to try to get a better shot.
Right.
Guns are fun.
Oh yeah.
I love guns.
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Yeah.
I got two guns right here.
Oh yeah.
Sally and Margaret.
Hey, I haven't gone a showwith a cut off shirt in a while,
so I got.
The sun's out.
Gunzo.
Well, at least I ain't got.
Buddy.
I love it.
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So now you're.
You're gonna hunt a Liberty hunt.
So that's something we have in common.
That we'll hunt the Liberty Hunt.
Yeah.
What's your thoughts this yearof having it being does only?
Yeah.
Bucks are on the market still.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's not.
It's.
It's not dough.
Only this year.
Oh.
I was under the impression.
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They passed it, but then theyflipped it back.
My.
I got conservation officer.
I call because I got thatmobile big vehicle hunter.
Yeah.
And he says you can.
He says you can legally shootdeer bucks this year because too
many people were complainingabout it.
I don't need to know any.
Any more than that.
So I heard it from you.
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I have some gear on my trailcamera I want to take out, so that's
what I'm gonna do.
So that's what they said Iheard on Michigan.
Out of doors too, so.
Nice.
I'm gonna have to look into that.
Well, no, I won't.
I just heard it from you.
I'm good.
I'll take your word for it then.
If the DNR comes to arrest you.
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Yeah, no, yeah, if the DNRcomes to arrest me.
That's the.
Typically I won't say it, butI'll be like, you know what?
I have a purple heart, and I'ma disabled veteran.
You're gonna arrest me?
And he'll be like, shut thehell up, man.
I don't want to hear this.
Oh, I would just say, yeah,this dude in Hawkins, man, told me
I was good.
Right?
Y. Yeah, I was.
I was eyewitness to it.
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Yeah, that's right.
That's right.
I saw everything.
He.
He saw it coming.
Yeah, he read it perfectly online.
Yeah.
Oh.
That'S awesome.
So now, you said that you dobow hunt or.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're Want to?
Want to.
I want to.
I ain't got.
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I can't afford the bolt yetwith paid.
I mean, what little money Iget from the steak, you know?
Oh, yeah, I can't afford the bolts.
Okay, so you got a crossbow, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
What size bolts do you shoot?
Do you know?
Not offhand, but I got an oldone I'll have my buddy.
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Do you want the measurement?
Yeah, typically they're 20inch is on average.
If you can get me just DM meor did with Brett or someone.
Brett.
You have his contactinformation you can give me?
Yeah.
I'll ditch you a pack ofwarhead bolts, man, and you just
shoot this.
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Actually, I have a set.
And I will get you because ifI can get you out hunting, dude.
For archery season and that.
I'm a fair weather hunter.
I love hunting.
October because it's nice weather.
November 15th comes around.
If it's cold, my ass iswanting to be inside.
Right.
If I can help you tag out.
Yeah.
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In October.
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
I'll send you some Bolts, brother.
That'd be awesome.
I was gonna say 20 inches.
Okay.
I think I got two or threedifferent sets from my kid's old
crossbow that he doesn't use anymore.
I have a set of brand newwarhead napalm crossbow bolts in
my bedroom right now.
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So we'll ditch you out someday.
Yeah, but I can give you my.
I have emailed my phone numberand stuff, so.
Yeah, I'll get yourinformation from him and I'll ditch
you a set.
They'll be seized out.
You'll have them well beforeseason, man, so you can start practicing.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
Yeah, you got to make sure thescope's dialed in.
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Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Lasers.
Well, you just do like I do in sound.
Shoot.
I used to.
I thought about it.
All right, brother, your timeis up.
We're trying to get some otherpeople on the line.
Thank you for calling in.
And hey, man, we're excited tohave you on for your own show, brother.
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I'm excited too.
I put my cord in the slotmachine already, so.
Love you, brother.
Talk to you later, man.
It might have rejected me, butI put her in there.
You're good, buddy.
You're good.
We'll talk to you.
See you, man.
See ya.
See you.
Before we put the phone up.
Phone number up again.
I think Dave mentioned it inthe group chat of the early dough
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season that we have here in Michigan.
Yes.
The weekend after the liberty hunt.
Yeah, it's the 2021 orsomething like that.
21st, 22nd, donkey moron.
I love hunting, but I'm alittle skeptical about that.
And this is coming from a guythat has yet to shoot a dough.
So any more chances I canshoot a dough?
Yes.
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And do.
And I agree, yes, completely,that we have a dough population problem
and it needs to be solved.
But I don't know how I feelabout that.
Why not?
Please enlighten.
Tell us why, Mr.
I don't kill does, since thisis weird to kill does, I guess only.
Because it's out like our crew.
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It's October 1st, and I'veonly hunted October 1st through November
14th.
And then after the.
The gun season here in Michigan.
So I. I think it's just kindof like.
It just seems odd for me to doit, like, oh, I'm not hunting in
October 1st, and it just seemsweird to be out my tree stand, like,
type deal.
I don't know.
Maybe that is it.
I.
Have you ever seen that movieold School?
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Yes.
There's a scene right in thebeginning, right.
Where Luke Wilson's getting inthe back of a taxi, and he holds
up the seat belt, and it'slike, your.
Your seat belt doesn't seem tobe working.
Do you remember what the taxidriver says to him?
No.
You know, you're a dumbass.
No.
He's like, your.
Your seatbelt isn't working.
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What do you suggest I do?
The taxi driver turns around,says, I suggest you quit being such
a fat bag.
You're in the back seat, all right?
You're sitting here at theDeer Hunter saying, well, there.
There's too many dough in Michigan.
What.
What do you think we should doabout it?
So then the state is like, youknow what?
We're going to open up an early.
Dough season two weeks before opener.
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Yeah.
And then Brett's like, well, what.
What do you suggest that I do then?
Well, Brett, I suggest youquit being such a.
And don't kill a deer.
How's that?
You want to put your quarterin the slot machine to help this
deer population around here?
Go shoot one.
I'm gonna shoot one of thosetranny goes that got big antlers
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on them.
Exactly right.
I did a dough that.
It identifies as a buck.
I'm gonna smoke that.
Them liberal deer.
Yeah.
I am gonna shoot a dough, though.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna get one.
I'm gonna shoot.
I want to shoot a dough.
Don't get me wrong.
I. I. Destiny.
I'm just pumped that I get togo before opening the season to shoot.
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Go.
Oh, welcome to the club, bud.
I guess it's.
Maybe parts of me wants to doit in the regular season.
I get it.
Like, I'm nostalgic about thattype of thing.
I guess it's just my ownpersonal way.
Like, I've been doing so longthis way, I can't.
And I haven't accomplished itdoing it this way.
So I'm like, I'm determined, like.
No.
That I'm gonna do it this wayno matter what.
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I don't care if it kills me.
Okay.
Mentality.
I'm going to tell you this.
If you don't kill a deer, orI'm sorry, if you don't kill a Doe
before November 1, you, me,and David and take a drive in my
truck.
Okay.
Usually after dark.
A couple hours after dark, andwe're going to get you a doe.
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Now, any DNR officer oranything like that listening.
It doesn't sound like I'mgoing to be spotlighting.
I'm not going to be doing that.
This is just for.
For educational purpose.
Only we're going to show Brettwhat a dough looks like, because
chances are he might not knowwhat one looks like.
We have to go out at nightwith a spotlight to actually show
him what a doe looks likebecause how many trail cameras are
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you running right now?
Zero.
Right?
No, he's got some trail camsout right now.
I got cameras out there.
Oh, okay.
But there's no deer on him, sohe doesn't know exactly what he looks
like.
He's kind of like a Mr. Madoout there.
Behind the grind is justrazzing you, dog.
I know.
I love this comment behind thegrind comment.
Brett not shooting a dough.
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Might as well draft a defenseand fantasy on your first pick.
Joking, brother.
Yeah, I'm gonna get the firstpick in the first round.
Instead of dress draftingJamar Chase, I'm gonna draft Bill's
defense.
Yeah.
All right.
There's phone number again.
I think Dan.
Dan was gonna call in.
I think.
I don't give a.
(21:48):
The whoever gets there first,someone better.
Call in and make fun of one ofus or tell us a joke or do something.
I was already, you know, I wasroasting the blind dude.
I mean, that's pretty.
John's gonna give some freestuff if you can.
Yeah.
Give your good impression or agreat joke that we haven't heard
before.
Oh, God.
And two.
Two arm cards and a.
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And a cop.
Good.
Oh, my God.
Is it Mike?
What the do you want?
Yo, who answers the question?
We should have just said no.
Michael's not calling in.
Oh, is this Mike?
Why not?
Why not?
Well, first of all, good God,how high pitched was that voice?
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Call back when you grow up here.
Hey, no.
What the hell would I do?
Excuse me, guys.
Off.
No, you know what?
I. I even feel bad.
Mike.
I'm gonna send you a.
Some bowstring wax right here.
Yeah, well, don't worry,because I'm about to break Brett's
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balls about some.
Oh, you know, breaking ballsabout some, huh?
He's gonna break my balls.
I haven't got him his birthdaygift yet.
Oh, yeah, it's a blow up dollwith holes in it already.
I was gonna put crazy.
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I was gonna put.
I can't say it on live here.
I can't.
Can't say we're gonna send hima bag of dog.
No.
All right, hold on, Brett.
We're getting serious now.
You're a Bill Hunter.
We've seen some of your stuff.
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You're pretty successful Hunter.
You're a huge waterfowlhunter, right?
Yeah.
You use that Benelli SuperBlack Eagle, too, if I remember right.
The one.
Oh, the one.
Okay, so what have you been doing?
Because what.
What a lot of people don'tknow is if you're listening to this.
How old are you?
You're 15, right?
15.
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Okay.
So you're the future of thehunting generation, right?
We're.
We're the old guys.
We're trying to teach you asmuch stuff as we can.
You're learning everything.
What you have that we didn'twas YouTube.
So you're learning all thisstuff on YouTube.
You're getting this, like, youknow, oh, I see these dudes going
out smoking these 200, 180sall day, right?
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So what have you been doing tobetter yourself so that way you can
be successful in the field?
More just listening to thetips my dad gives.
Gives me.
That's the smartest thing I'veever heard on this rate, on this
show.
I mean, listening to your dad,your grandpa, and any old timer.
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And I'm not saying.
Oh, absolutely.
That is amazing.
Now, here's a tip for thosewho are watching right now.
And this is for the fishing side.
And this is going to besomething that I'm going to teach
everyone here.
My grandpa taught me this whenI was little.
When you go to catch a fishand you measure it right, it's always
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between the thumbs.
Your fingers are up, but it'salways between the thumbs.
So I caught a blue tail aboutthat big, right?
It's really that bad, but youdo it between your thumbs.
That's.
That's a tip for me.
But.
Yeah.
Anyways, that's.
What the.
Are you talking about?
Well, you don't fish, Brett,so shut up.
I do fish, but you measure itfrom your thumbs.
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He can't even shoot a do, sohe's got no clue what you're talking
about.
So are you running trailcameras right now?
You are, right, Mike?
I'm wa.
I got to put one out right now.
I just bought a tactic cam.
What?
A few weeks ago.
There we go.
Michael.
Yeah, I saw it.
Yeah, that was a good one,too, man.
That.
That's a good one.
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Now are you.
Oh, go ahead.
I'm sorry.
No, you.
No, I just.
I. I gotta.
I just gotta, you know, figureout a few things on it, you know,
and play around with it more.
Right on.
I can send you the screenshotsof the settings that I use.
Michael.
Yeah.
Can you please?
Actually, yeah, I can do that.
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If you just set them up inyour yard and play with it, too.
Set it On a tree when you're outside.
That's what I was gonna do,but I've been so goddamn busy.
Yeah, it's got to be a. Yeah, yeah.
See, I've been doing.
Go ahead, go ahead, Johnny.
No, this is.
This is something that's amazing.
We have a 15 year old on herewho's passionate about hunting, who
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bust his ass working.
I mean, we give you my dad, wereally do.
But man, deep down, like, Igive it back, so.
Absolutely.
So on that note, I'm not goingto say anything bad because your
parents are probably our ageand they're like, what the hell?
But probably your age.
Not my age, but I mean, no,dude, you're the future of hunting.
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And anything that you'redoing, like, let us know what you
know.
Do you get your friends.
Are all your friends involvedin hunting too?
Do they hunt?
Do they fish?
Do they spend time outdoors?
Just one.
Just one.
Okay.
Just one of them.
Rest are all.
They're gamers.
Yeah.
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Yep.
That's a shame.
Now, so when you and yourbuddies go out into the woods or
you guys go out and set, like,tree stands out.
Are you hunting private?
Public.
What do you do?
Private.
Okay, perfect.
So now do you guys get to goout and set up tree stands together
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and just like, basically dowhat we do, but as kids kind of.
Yeah.
You know, go out with our dadand we'll go just, you know, do some.
Dude, that's awesome, man.
That's awesome.
And if I can give you onepiece of advice is quit listening
to the show because we may ormay not have just been talking about
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spotlighting deer at night,but, man, no, that's.
That's awesome, man.
I'm glad to hear that thefuture generation isn't totally lost
and that.
Yeah, they're still out therehunting, getting it done and wanting
to learn.
And more importantly, lessons from.
From your dad, your uncle, allof that.
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That's awesome.
Yeah, a lot of them arescrewed up, but there's still a few
good ones.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Let me ask you this.
Brett is a little.
Yeah, we're all questions.
Yeah.
Michael, let me ask you thisquestion that.
What's one thing, though,that's kind of been like trying to
figure out a phrase questionthat you've been kind of stumped
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on that you feel like you,like, you're like, it's a weak part
of your quote unquote game ofyour hunting game that you're trying
to improve upon and you justdon't know which way to go about
doing it.
Well, I know I need to improveon bow hunting.
I'm, you know, I gotta just domore practice because I haven't really
worked on that.
Just because you're too busy.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
But I gotta start taking sometime to do that.
One thing I want to try.
You know, I do the gunhunting, but I want to get into the
bow hunting.
Yeah.
One thing coming from a guythat has.
That runs this.
I have two kids, a full timejob and personal stuff I gotta do
outside of everything.
So if you saw my schedule,it's cramped.
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Just shut the up, Johnny.
Carve out at least half anhour a day.
Just half hour a day at a minimum.
And shoot 20.
Do it correctly though.
Focus on form.
But make sure that those 20arrows are legit, that they're perfect.
Yep.
How many I gotta try to make?
You can even do 10 arrows.
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You can shoot 10 arrows at 10 yards.
Yep.
Just shoot 10 arrows at 10 yards.
Not even really focusing on anything.
Nope.
Trying to aim at a spot.
Just practice shooting.
Yep.
You can spend five minutesjust shooting and you don't have
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to do anything else.
And then when you get moretime, spend more time actually hitting
a spot.
And then I would actuallysuggest once you get that is if you
got a ladder stand orsomewhere where you can sit six,
seven feet off the ground andshoot at a target.
Shooting elevated.
Yeah, we could just set one upin the backyard.
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That's what we do.
Yep.
I would do that.
And if you got a 3D target,don't shoot at targets anymore.
Other than a deer target.
Yep.
And practice aiming.
You gotta do.
Yep.
Because.
Yeah, we do.
Yeah.
I generally when I do, when Istart practicing, you know, it's
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been busted up around July iswhen I start getting my.
I go from the.
The targets to the 3D.
So that way my eye startsgetting adjusted to that picture
of a deer silhouette type deal.
Yep.
So now also would you guys dorec broadheads or magnus?
Either or with your boundage.
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You definitely should stickwith the fixed.
Yep.
Until you can get above £60.
At least.
60 and up.
Yep.
And when it gets to thedifference of like ma.
Like not even the brands butlike fixed mechanical.
That's the big debate reallyof like what should I use?
Do I use a fixed one?
Use a mechanical?
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You know what Fixed a fixed what?
This is what I was going tosay to Mike.
What you should do is go outand did a 125 grain muzzy.
Like that's, that's thebroadhead you should use.
Muzzy.
I mean we all have ourbroadheads that we shoot, that we,
you know, the companies thatwe represent.
But I almost guarantee you,maybe minus Brett, Dave and I probably
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grew up shooting muzzy broadheads.
They're an amazing broadheadfor the price point for you.
Starting off, they're going tobe just great.
And this is going to put adeer down for sure.
And it's not going to breakthe bank.
That's key right there.
But if you're working like a,like you are.
Yeah.
You're going to want.
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The thing that most matter outof all broadheads is the sharpness.
Exactly.
You're going to want somethingthat's super sharp.
Yeah.
No, you might have to get by abroadhead and your dad might have
to touch them up for you.
Because any broadhead I pullout of the box, I, I, I, I touch
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them up.
There's been very fewbroadheads out of the box that are
like, will make you bleed justby touching it.
Well, Michael, that's our timefor tonight.
We do give you a shit, though,but we love you.
I'm sure Brett has your address.
I'll throw you out somebowstring wax.
Yeah, well, listen, Brettneeds to go kill a doe.
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As soon as he does, we'll takepictures and send it to you, man.
Yeah, it'll be on the news.
Don't worry.
There'll be a miracle happening.
You need a cup of tippy cowand a dove.
I love this kid.
A cup of tipping.
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But we, we won't hold thatagainst you.
All right, Michael, we'll talkto you later, brother.
All right, man.
Have a good one, brother.
Have a good night, buddy.
Begin with but that's a Garykid, man.
Yep.
I think we got one more time for.
Time for one more caller.
Well, yeah, I will, I will saythis, though.
The blind hunter made a, Ajoke here, though.
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Yeah.
He said, how did Stevie Warnermeet his wife?
He hasn't.
Oh, a blind date.
Oh, that's a good one.
That was good.
I like it.
All right, one more phone call.
One more.
Dude, I got all night.
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Let's do this.
There we go.
There we go.
Phone lines are back open again.
There's the phone number ifyou want to call in.
Did you see the basically theto bring list that Brett made up?
Oh, God.
Whenever Brett sends me anemail, it goes right to spam.
Yeah, I, I saw something likea packing list of what to bring to.
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Just the essential stuff for a hunt.
But yeah, like, I have a box here.
Watch this.
Watch this.
In decline.
Who is that squash scratch.
Oh yeah.
So.
But I have a box I have todrill out tomorrow for Orden for
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my hunt.
Which is a giant tough box.
So I'm pretty much just goingto keep that all together and bring
it out there.
He's gonna hang up on you?
Yep.
Yo, I'm surprised he didn't.
Hey.
Yo, what is going on?
Squatch is calling in.
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What are you doing, brother?
I can.
I can hear him echoing.
So what are you doing jacked up?
What are you doing?
You beating up little 13 yearolds online?
No, 15 year olds.
Get your facts straight.
We wait till they're at least 15.
Before we exactly, at leastknow some self defense.
Geez, I'm out of this conversation.
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Jesus.
Thanks.
Because remember the othernight it went out?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I had the cable company here.
That's why I'm not on with you guys.
But so they, they ran new wireto the house, right?
Hooks everything up, brings ina new modem.
That new modem don't work.
(35:50):
So he plugs my old modem back in.
The old modem fires right up.
Works.
I said, well, it was probablybecause the signal was screwed up
from the old wire outside.
He's like, yeah, it's a possibility.
He's like, but you shouldreally get a new modem anyway.
Just keep it up to date.
So I had a couple seconds.
I've seen you guys harassing Michael.
And then he said call in.
So I called in.
Well, there you go.
Well, I'll send you out of Bowstring.
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Oh, you already have some,don't you?
Yeah, I got.
I thought it was chapstick, remember?
Oh that's right, you did.
I was like man, Johnny sent me.
This wide lip chapstick forlike gingers.
Like Brett those Bowstring wax.
But yeah, it works for chaps.
It too if you want.
It does work.
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And it's got a nice piny flavor.
Yeah, yeah.
So I got my electric.
I got my electric bike.
I put that all together tonight.
That thing's pretty sick.
It's.
It's not.
I don't know, it's not fullycharged yet.
So I don't know what it'stotally capable of doing.
But I was ripping around theroads and some woods up here.
That's cool.
Do you.
Do you mind if we open thephone lines to people that actually
(36:54):
give a about this show andshow up?
Dude, I don't think anybody.
I don't think you're gonnafind anybody.
But you can try.
He was trying to save us.
You gotta remember Brett, between.
Besides you, Spotch is the onethat's on here the most.
Dave and I are like hit ormiss, so.
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Squatch is a Die Hard throughand through.
That is true.
So that is true.
He's basically the second realsecond host of this show.
Yeah.
Why don't you say you're sorry?
Okay.
Apologize.
I'm sorry, Squatch.
Yeah, yeah.
Have a little respect, Boven,for your elders right now.
Give him your mom's number.
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Yeah, he's already got.
I already got that.
That's.
That's already done and over with.
I'm moving on to bigger andbrighter horizons.
There you go.
Yeah, like Johnny's girl.
Anyways.
All right, let's move on.
Go ahead.
I just wanted to annoy thecrap out of you for five minutes
because I wasn't on there tonight.
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But you boys stay sassy.
All right, brother.
We do our best, brother.
Well, we'll see you on thenext show hopefully, though, right?
Yeah, yeah, I'll be.
I'll be watching anyway, so doyour best to kind of act funny.
We'll try to act professional.
All right.
All right.
See you, brother.
See ya.
All right.
See you brothers later.
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All right.
I didn't know you could cut out.
Dial up, man.
We'll give you one more phone call.
Oh, someone better call andtell us a joke.
No one calls in the next 30 seconds.
Then we'll just call it.
What?
No.
What time is it?
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We just said that time.
I know.
I'm just making a joke.
You got a joke, Brett?
No.
Not one politically correctfor this show.
Well, here's a joke.
Brett's honey season.
All right, Brett.
Yeah.
So last night, you and I weretalking on the phone.
We FaceTimed.
Oh, boy.
You.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, it got a little personal here.
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Brett got a new saddle from Epsop.
He got the Mutant just like I did.
And he's like.
He opened it up and he's like,hey, what's all this here, right?
Being a brand new saddlehunter is kind of overwhelming.
You have all this stuff I gotto know knots, and you're like, what
the hell am I doing?
So he FaceTimed me, and I wasable to walk it through him.
(39:25):
And I had a. I had to dumb itdown a little bit, right?
Bring it back to my roots tohelp him out here.
But.
So last night was your firsttime in a comfortable saddle?
Hanging in a tree, not veryfar off the ground, but you got the
gist of it.
What.
What's your thoughts of it?
Love it.
Absolutely love it.
Like Damn.
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I've been.
I wouldn't say I've been,like, pushing it off because it's
like, you know how, like,Breaking Bad came out?
And it's like, it came out andthen everyone's like, talking all
this about, oh, Breaking Bad's amazing.
And then you're like, nah, Idon't want to watch it.
Because everyone seems beingthat type of.
Yeah.
Now I joined the club withsaddle hunting.
I'm like, man, why the.
Haven't been doing this for awhile now.
Now what's your favorite part?
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Like, why do you like it so much?
I know why I like saddle hunting.
But why do you like it?
I. I think because it justgives me the option to just.
I think I hear a lot ofpeople, they move around too much,
but it gives me the ability tojust, first off, the comfortability
of it.
It felt just amazing.
And everyone's like, well, you're.
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You're basically being heldtogether by a net, in a sense, and
a small net on your ass.
How safe can that really besitting in that?
You told me to go hang upsidedown, basically.
Yeah, I felt so secure to thatwith just this little tiny rope.
I'm afraid of heights.
I'm deadly afraid of heights.
Like, going up my tree standwhere I sit at now is like 17ft off
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the ground.
And I'm.
And then I'm like, when Imove, I move like this.
Like, I had to get a 360 standjust to feel.
Otherwise I'd be sitting in aladder stand because I. I'm that
much afraid of heights.
And I feel like I have noproblem climbing up 20ft up in the
air and hanging on by a pieceof rope.
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So what you just said there iswhat I've been trying to, like, get
people into saddle hunting forthat reason.
Having faith and trust in yourequipment, right?
You were just on the ground.
I showed you how to tie off,how to set it up, how to be secured
to the tree.
I know not to cut you off.
I did have some small trainingfrom the police academy.
We did had to learn some ropesand rappelling and stuff like that.
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So I do have some experiencewith it.
Not like you do, but outsideof that small knowledge, I did feel
a lot safer after talking with you.
And you have that warm andfuzzy feeling.
You're like, okay, I'm in a saddle.
I'm hanging here.
You're comfortable.
And then one of the very firstthings I did is, okay, now lean all
the way over.
Okay, now lean upside down.
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Like, flip Upside down, likeyou're gonna grab something or like
you're gonna fall becausefirst of all, you're close to the
ground.
So you're, you don't have thatfear of falling from 30ft up or however
high you are.
But yet it's also it, it's nota, a natural feeling.
Like you, you're flippingupside down, you're, you're gonna
be freaking out.
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If you can do that whileyou're on the, you know, close enough
to the ground where you psychyourself out where you're not gonna
fall, you start trusting yourequipment more.
So now you're, you're paintingupside down and you're having fun
with it because you see theground right there.
You're not gonna hurt yourself.
And you know that now.
So now you're having fun with it.
You're flipping around, you'redoing all this crazy that you wouldn't
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normally be doing in a treestand in a saddle, you know, especially
deer hunting.
But now you're, you'recomfortable with it.
You're, you're like, I'm notgonna fall, I'm not gonna die.
And that was the thing thatgot me into saddle hunting was I
used it and I started messingaround with it and I started, I did
that whole upside down thingwhere I flipped upside down and I'm
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like, I, I, I didn't fall outof the seat.
This is fine.
I'm safe now.
When you're up 18, 20ft in theair or higher, you, you're on that
platform.
That's why I'm a one stickclimbing guy.
I, I will lean all the wayover, grab the stick, bring it up
and just keep climbing like that.
But having that faith and thattrust in your equipment to know that
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you're going to be up in theair, it's not going to fail you.
XOP makes fantastic products.
It's just amazing.
We're not just saying XOPmakes fantastic products because
we work with them.
No, they like we say all thetime if we've teamed up with a company,
it's because we fuckingbelieve in their shit.
And they make legit.
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Absolutely.
You can look in my closet andI have five or six different products
of gear from saddles to sticksto ropes to whatever.
And it's, you start off withwhat you can afford and then you
go all the way up to like thehigh end name brand stuff and you're
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like, well, this is ridiculous.
I'm spending 300 on a saddleand I did my SOP mutant saddle and
I put it on, I'm like, this isso much better.
And you can tell because it'sa product made by hunters for hunters.
It's not made by banters in ahunting company.
It's.
And Justin just commentedright now, that's a piece of working
(44:23):
man's equipment.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
And they want their, their,their stuff high quality but yet
everybody can afford to buy it.
Exactly.
And you can tell in thisindustry there's companies out there,
there's, you know, arrowcompanies, bow companies, just, just
hunting comp or huntingproducts in general.
(44:43):
You can tell which ones aremade by bankers and business owners
who just want to make a lot ofmoney from it versus product that
is created by a hunter.
I'm a pro staffer for Warhead Arrows.
I talk to Jason all the time.
The dude's a down to earth guywho made a quality arrow arrow that
well, I, I will shoot againstany other arrow.
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It's amazing.
Sop their product is morecomfortable, more price efficient
than I've ever spent.
Like, it's amazing.
And it's so much user friendlyis there.
It's just an amazing overall product.
And that, that's thedifference between a lot of companies
out there.
(45:25):
These, these companies thatare out there charging.
Well, you looked at Hoyt, right?
I used to shoot Hoyt all the time.
What is the RX10 just came out.
It has the least amount oftechnology in that bow.
And it's the very first bowthat's over two grand.
Bear.
Like.
Yeah, that's.
(45:46):
And you're just like, why?
Oh, it's because it has thosefour letters.
Like it's a Hoyt.
That's it.
But anymore or any, any bownowadays is going to do the same
thing from pse like Daveshoots Elite that I shoot or Matthews
that Brett shoots.
You know, even bear.
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Bear, yeah, bear.
I mean, being I grew up on bear.
Oh.
Being from Michigan, Iguarantee you all three of us have
a bear either in our closetright now or we grew up shooting
them.
Whitetail hunter too.
And still mine.
Bear BR33, it's still down there.
I got a BTR32 in, in thegarage that my oldest shot.
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And then my.
I got a bear lights out.
And I got a 1953 Bear Montanain my closet.
Lawn boat that I'm gonna usethis year on a dough.
Brett, I hope to shoot adough, I swear.
But like you were sayingthough, I think there's a lot of.
If you're getting intohunting, I mean we talk about, we
try to do On a show where thatwe talk about things where everyone.
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If you're just getting intohunting or you've been a hunter for
20 years, we try to breakthings down for everyone on every
scale, on every level of ahunter that you could possibly be.
If you're just getting intohunting and you might be not, not
seeing it right away in thehunting world, if you've been in
here for five years, there isa galore of hunting companies.
For every product on themarket, purchase broadheads, arrows,
(47:17):
fletchings, bows, saddles,tree stands, you're gonna have like
10 companies per one single product.
Now when you're trying, thenyou start figuring out like, well,
now I'm just feeling bombardedwith like, what, what company do
I get, what brand do I get,what's this or that?
And blah, blah, blah, blah.
Take a second, take a deepbreath and just do your research
(47:39):
on each individual one.
And that's at a basic, that'swhat you can do.
If you have any questions oflike, hey, ask us and we can say,
hey, I'm looking between thisproduct and this product.
What are, what are you guys, opinions?
We can give you our two centsof advice on what we think and our
experiences with it, but atthe end of the day, you're gonna
have to pick one and you'regonna have your bad experiences.
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Just like Johnny, have anyonein hunting you bought a product thinking
it was going to be great andit turned out to be, it's going to
happen.
No matter research you do oranything like that, it's going to
happen and.
There'S going to be productsthat are still good, but they just
don't seem to like fit you per se.
It's like the main reason Iwent to XOP was because of their
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standoffs.
Because the other two brandsof sticks that I had before I really,
it was uncomfortable going way up.
When your feet are sideways oryou're on basically just inside the
knuckles of your toes going upbecause your toes are hitting a tree.
And then in the 5 inchstandoffs, I mean you can just basically
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it's like walking a ladder up.
It's so much more comfortable.
Just because something ispriced extremely high doesn't mean
it's the best.
I mean there's people I've,I've heard on YouTube videos where
they said, yeah, they wentinto this just for getting a new
bow.
They went into an archery shopand they're thinking, oh, I want
to try the new Hoya, I want totry the new Matthews.
Next thing you Know they'releaving with a bow tech or a PSE
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bow.
They felt 10 times better.
Not because of the price.
They saved the money becausethey were expecting to get a Hoyt
or a Matthews bow.
And that's what I love, those bows.
And they worked.
They shot better with thembecause they're 10 times smoother
for their setup.
Yeah, probably the mock seriestoo, because they won two years in
a row.
Bow of the year.
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Well, I mean, minus Dave over there.
PSE mobile hunter, who, ifyou're in the West Michigan area,
come by Saturday at long rangearchery to hang out with old Chuck.
Chuck.
Yeah, I'll be there.
Working there.
I'll be there.
I'm not buying and see him.
So.
But no, the best thing aboutyou or the best thing you can do
is go to your local archeryshop and shoot every single bow that
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you want.
Yep.
And when I was in the marketfor a new bow, I went down to long
range and I had a list of bowsin my head.
I went down there, I was like,hey, do you have this, this, this,
and this?
And he's like, matter of fact,I do.
My first response was becausenow I'm gonna shoot them all.
Now I'm gonna walk home withone or go home with one.
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And sure enough, I did.
I. I shot all the ones that Iwanted, and I shot the one that I
wanted and shot the elite erathat I have now.
And he's like, we can swap itout with performance mods and they'll
customize it any way you want.
And dude, it was.
Yeah, I shot so many bows that day.
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And I was like, yep, this is it.
Like, this is the one I feelcomfortable with.
I love it.
Go ahead and let's pick out asite and do all the other stuff for
it.
So another piece of advice,don't go in expecting you want one
thing.
Oh, go in there.
Go in there thinking, you know what?
I'm open to suggestions.
And go in there and not evendoing any research of any bows, like,
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hey, I want to get a new bow.
That way you're not biased toone particular thing.
Because I can tell you this.
When the lift was coming out,I was dead set.
I wanted to get the that onebecause I like Matthews.
Don't get me wrong, it'sexpensive brand, but I love the way
Matthew's been.
They're set up with their bows.
It works great for me.
I shot everything on a bow.
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There's something I likedabout them and things I would do.
Anyways, I went in there I waslike, oh, I want to get the lift.
It came out great.
Got it.
Hated it.
Yep.
Took a.
Took a week.
I went to my local archeryshop because I went to long range.
That's where I went to.
I was up in that area.
I was like, you know what?
Fuck it, I want to try it.
I'm going to see how it goes.
I said, nope, I didn't like it.
I went back to my home archeryshop, which is bow that I have now.
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Cruising his archery Cruising dress.
Yep.
Oh, they're amazing.
Love them.
I love them.
Grew up with those guys.
Yep.
I asked them, hey, do you havethe Matthews phase four that came
out the year it came out on after.
Got it.
Loved it instantaneously.
Oh, here's my new bow.
Yep.
So don't go into the archery shop.
You're getting a new bow.
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Try thinking you don't have noidea what bows are out there and
try a galore of them.
Anyways, that's our 2 cents ona lot of stuff.
But we can get into that stuffon our next show because we're going
to be talking on our ne onSunday show.
It's going to be the team andwe're going to give you our tips
and tricks and how to be alittle bit more successful out in
the hunting season this year.
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But before we go, I want toannounce the prizes again because
Marsh Boys, they are in thefantasy football league and.
And they just tuned in sothey're looking for the prizes.
So I'm going to announce themone more time.
If you come in first place,which is going to be me, you get
an automatic bid into nextyear's league.
You get a pack of MagnusBroadheads, you get two articles
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of merchandise of your choiceand you get the option to host Whitetail
Advantage live show.
I'm in second place.
You get a pack of RecBroadheads, you get one merchandise
product from us and you get tobe an honorary guest of the Whitetail
Vanish live show.
I'm in third place.
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You still get one article ofmerchandise on us.
You get the option to be aguest on the show and.
Or pick the topic of a liveshow and a guest.
There we go.
So we got some good things andnext year we might.
It's a free.
So with the fancy footballleague trying it out worked great
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the first time and this is oursecond time doing it.
It's a free buy in.
So anyone who wants to join,we open it up the first Sunday in.
In June of every year saying,hey, we're going to open it up again
next year, we might just pitchin five bucks or something like that.
That way, put some money onthe line.
Maybe.
Maybe.
It all depends on how Brett'sdraft goes this year.
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That's right.
Yeah, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna draft a kicker on myfirst pick.
Anyways, guys, that's gonna beit for us.
Yeah.
For tonight.
All right.
Yeah.
That was fun.
I love talking to blind hunterright there.
Michael calling in little shit bag.
But we love them.
Yeah.
New callers.
Yeah, new callers.
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Part of the brotherhood ofWhitetail Advantage.
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the show, watch the live show.
We have a lot of fun duringthe live shows.
If you listen to this on theaudio version.
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October through December, wedo not do a live show on Tuesdays.
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Granted, there's only going tobe two live shows in October, two
in November and two, two orthree in December, I think.
Or November, something like that.
Because we're going to be onour hunting trip in October.
We got Thanksgiving inNovember and we also got Christmas
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