Ep 180 / The Comedic Side of Hunting: Laughs, Lies, and Lessons

If you're ready for a good time, we’re diving deep into the wild world of whitetail hunting this week! The stars of the show—Brett, Squatch, and the crew—are all about sharing their latest hunting escapades and the ups and downs of the season. We’ll chat about everything from the thrill of private land hunting to the quirky antics of our favorite outdoor buddies. Plus, we’ll sprinkle in some cheeky banter and maybe a few tall tales about how the deer always seem to be one step ahead of us! So grab your gear, kick back, and join us for some laughs and insights that’ll make you feel right at home in the great outdoors.

Takeaways:

• In this episode, we shared our personal hunting stories, emphasizing the unique experiences each season brings us, like encountering that elusive deer we've named Geronimo.
• We had a humorous discussion about the challenges of hunting on public land versus private land, showcasing our preferences and experiences in both environments.
• The conversation touched on the importance of camaraderie among hunters and how sharing stories and experiences strengthens our community bond.
• We also debated the merits of using technology in hunting, like thermal imaging and drones, and how it can enhance our chances of success in the field.

Episode Transcript

(00:02):
Welcome to the WhitetailAdvantage podcast with your host,
Brett Bovin.
Thank you for tuning in andenjoy the show.

(00:22):
What is up everybody?
You want to know what's up?
Let me tell you what.
All on have Squatch and I'vebeen on this show for.
And yet it's always yourpicture up there with your deer.
We got to change that.
Yeah, I got.
I love my dogs and everything,but I, you know, I do kill deer.
Well, I. I need new photos then.
I can't magically pull magicalphotos out my fairy dust ass.

(00:46):
You think you would just havea bunch?
I sent you like a whole portfolio.
Not only that, but I mean likethe host, but Brett Bovin, John and.
The Squatch and the other guys.
Brett Bovin and those other guys.
Yeah.
It's not Michael Jackson inthe five.
I mean it.
It's the Whitetail Advantage.
I mean, can you imagine.

(01:07):
Could you imagine if Brett waslike the Jackson 5 and he was like
the best dancer.
I can see that.
What the are you talking about?
And he just grabbed his crotchand run around in his street stand
going.
He, he.
That's what he does.
Yeah, I do that at home allthe time.
I've seen him.
He does it at home a lot.
It sounds like a red squirrel.

(01:30):
What was it the other day?
I can't remember.
It's like some bird.
It was annoying the of me justkept hearing it go screech, screech.
It was annoying the out of me.
You ever just go out in thewoods podcast?
Well, you guys cut me off.
I was trying to say, hey,welcome to the show.
People know, man, if they're.
If they're watching, they knowthere's maybe they're listening.

(01:52):
They know there's maybe three,two and a half people watching right
now.
Yeah, there's two and a half.
There's a couple people watching.
A couple thousand people thatmight turn in and listen to.
On the audio version.
Maybe.
Maybe audio.
Audio is better because theydon't have to see us.
Yeah, I'm probably averagingprobably 5, 955 more.

(02:17):
995 more people than actuallyreally happens.
Hey, that you know, whatever.
Reality is only like.
Maybe only like five peoplethat really listen to our show.
That's okay.
That's still good.
And we even have these guys.
We ended up with a blind guyand he just wandered.
He just was like thumbingthrough the pages of the YouTube
and found us.

(02:37):
Yeah, his algorithm fought himon that one.
Yeah, no kidding.
I mean he saw it through braille.
Sure.
That somehow did that.
He didn't just stumble on our show.
For some reason he still knewyou were a ginger from braille.
I don't know how that works.
No, that's what it was.

(02:57):
So I was out there hunting acouple weeks ago and this woodpecker
which just kept going off andit was just kept going, going and
going and going.
And then what happens later isI think it was like a crow or something.
Every five minutes, every fiveto 20 seconds, it would make its
noise and I'm like, you son of.

(03:18):
I don't know.
Do you guys get annoyed by birds?
No, actually I don't.
I just get annoyed by it sometimes.
It's kind of annoying whenit's just repetitive.
Stuff like that.
But then I got a divorce.
Did you see who's in the comments?
I see a comment.
Yeah, man.
Twinkle.
Our twinkle toe hunter.

(03:39):
Twinkle toes outdoor.
Yeah.
Twilight hunter.
He said nva day one.
Jet lag is legit.
Buddy killed a buck today.
We packed out of a hole.
Wow.
We packed out of a hole.
Storm coming in, super windyand no deer tonight.
Now he's probably down in a hole.

(04:00):
Like.
Yeah, down in a hole.
Congratulations.
Not to you, to your buddy.
Because apparently you didn'tget a deer yet.
Twinkle toes just helped him.
Yeah, that's what retirementdoes to you.
Yeah, that's right.
He's close to retirement.
Oh, that's right.
He's close to.
He's got a couple months left.

(04:21):
He's checked out.
We know.
Oh, yeah.
Mentally he's done.
Yeah.
Dawn D u n done.
Mentally.
This.
Burning up the sick time.
Side note.
Did you guys see.
So I know Squatch is nothappening to you right now.
It's snowing outside.
It's Sunday, November 9th.

(04:42):
Now.
I've got about two inchesoutside here.
So you're used to that.
That's an inch longer thanwhat he's used to.
Actually, the only reason Iknow is because I measured it twice.
Little round print.
Little round imprints in thesnow where you dug in.
That's right.
It's more like just little dots.
My belly got cold.

(05:04):
I can't believe it.
Usually it's been like thelast years.
It's been like 70s.
But it's all right.
It's going to warm back up.
Man.
It's warm.
It's going to get back in 55sand 60s.
You're gonna week, probably.
Yep.
But I. I think snowfall I'veseen this early and I want to say

(05:25):
probably a good handful ofyears maybe.
Exactly.
What's the measurement Of a handful.
I'd say six years.
Because I remember growing up,hunting season for me growing up,
it was November 15th.
That's when gun season started.
Yeah.
And every year there is snowon the ground regardless.
Like there was lots of snow onthe ground.

(05:46):
Well, I'll say this in themost recent of years.
Oh yeah.
In the most recent handful of years.
The last 15 years, we haven'thad snow like this.
No, no.
It's.
We're actually getting lakeeffect is what we're having.
So it's nice and sticking tothe ground.
And it's weird.
I don't know, just weird.

(06:07):
The kids must love it.
They do.
They do.
They love seeing the snowfall coming.
Yep.
So hopefully.
Yeah.
Shane's on.
What's up brother?
He.
He thumbed through the brailleand he found us.
He's back.
He saw that.
He felt.
He didn't see.
He felt that we were alive onYouTube, didn't it?

(06:29):
Honestly, as you guys knowhere in the hunting season months,
October through December, it'sjust mainly us that get on here and
we legitly have like nofucking plan do these three months
because we're so focused onhunting season.
We just want to come on hereand just talk about how our season's
going and.
And talk this with you guysand just tell stories.

(06:50):
So we all know Squatch, youshot that buck, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we don't need to hear anymore about that.
No, no.
Thank God.
We know your last show withFrank and Squatch covered that.
Brett, have you seen anything?
Just.
Just my plan of seeing deercome through the rut finally happened.

(07:12):
But seeing them in person, no,I haven't seen shit like I've seen
like three bucks now on cameraone was a really good one.
I would say his spread wasprobably close to 20 inches.
And they weren't like hedidn't have like serious like mass
to like to the antlers oranything like that.
I say they were very like thinlike but they were.

(07:35):
He had very good width to him.
I think he was an eightpointer and then had another one
show up that was probablyabout the same.
But to see him on camera in person.
No, I haven't seen him in person.
Just been seeing does andbutton bucks and that's mainly it.
So we all know I hunt, youknow, public and it's been a struggle.

(07:56):
I've seen a couple but Ifinally mid last week, like last
Tuesday or Wednesday, probablyWednesday, I was finally able to
get some private.
And it's a family farm that'snever been hunted.
It's 150 acres of corn, mostly corn.
Start a pond and then a littlestrip of wood.

(08:16):
And I set up a trail cameraout there over this giant scrape
that I found.
Dude, I wasn't out there for10 minutes.
My.
My mole tree never evenfinished connecting before the first
buck came in.
Little six.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't have a bow oranything with me, like, ready to
hunt.
I was just out there to putcameras out, and I walked over to

(08:37):
a tree that I was going tohunt out of, and I knelt down, and
I was like, you know, I wantedto see ground level, what it looked
like, what they would see.
And this sits point, walksright in.
I'm like, all right.
I watched him for about 10minutes, and he hung out.
And on my way out, there's twomore bucks.
They just took off running.
I didn't see anything, butjust antlers jumped up.

(08:58):
Two more does all in this area.
I was like, oh, all right.
So I went out there the nextday and got out of work early, Ran
out there, sat up in thattree, and nothing for about an hour.
Then this spike came out atlike 7.7yards on the edge of the
cornfield.
Walked over to that rub orthat scrape, worked it over, hung

(09:19):
out for a few minutes, and left.
I was like, man.
But right after I left, whenthat sits point came out, a big seven
came out and worked over that scrape.
I have them on my camera, andI've seen more deer in that one area
in four hours than I have allyear on public.
So really, I am loving thiswhole private land hunting thing.

(09:43):
This is nice.
It's nice a little bit, right?
Dude, it is kind of nice.
And it's weird.
I think I texted you thisyesterday or the day before where
it was like, it's weird howthis year in particular, you got
me into saddle hunting more.
Well, I'd say it was a teamthing, but.
Yeah, but you got me intosaddle hunting, and then this year

(10:05):
I got you into hunting private land.
Yeah.
So it's like a little factotrade effect type deal.
That's right.
And what was really cool ishunting private in that spike came
out.
He was a big body.
Yeah.
And I'm watching him.
I'm like, if this dude was onpublic, I would have stuck him by

(10:27):
now.
Yeah.
But I know what's out there.
And I mean, all weekend, dude,my cameras have been blowing up,
but at three of them out therenow, I'm gonna move two more out
there on Monday.
And it's just.
Dude, the amount of deer outthere are crazy.
It is.
It's.
I think it's nice because you have.

(10:48):
I think when you look at,like, public land, like, you just
like for the air that we.
You hunt and that I hunted.
So I'm gonna say that.
That we hunt now because,yeah, we're neighbors.
Yeah, we're neighbors.
Also, I want to say, Shane, go yourself.
You didn't comment or anything.
I just wanted to say it.
He said, what's up, fellas?
And I. I forgot to say it.

(11:09):
Go yourself.
Oh, I just felt like saying it.
G Show, man.
Geez.
I know.
It is a g. G Radio.
You can look at public land.
Like, it's like a vast bigarea, and it can kind of get overwhelming,
and it's hard to like,pinpoint of where unless you have,
like a mentor.

(11:29):
I've been reading a lot ofbooks or listening to podcasts, for
instance, our show of, like,where to look and narrow down, like
these kind of things andshrink it.
I think it can get a littleoverwhelming and to an extent.
But when you hunt privateland, like, for me, I have 80 acres.
I have 80 acres.

(11:49):
So I don't have to stress outso much of where I need to go or
this or that.
I'm just gonna pick a spot andmove on from it and see where they
move or any stuff like that.
So it's easy to navigate ifthat makes sense of what I was trying.
What I'm trying to say.
Oh, absolutely.
So basically what you'retrying to say is you can manage it
better.
Yeah.
And that's what I've noticed,because hunting public for so long.

(12:14):
Yeah, I. I've shot some nicedeer out of public, but I've also
shot deer that I would nevershoot now on private.
Give them another year.
And knowing that no one elsehunts it.
Oh, dude, it.
It's nothing beats thatfeeling, especially coming from a
public land hunter into private.
Like, I. I feel like thatspecial kid riding that launder bus

(12:37):
today.
Like, I'm like, this is.
This is nice.
Yeah, it's.
Yeah, it's nice because youget to see and I think.
And you get.
You still get it with publicland deer.
If you've especially beenhunting for a lot in the.
The same area for a while and.
But then you can alwaysrandomly have some other hunters
show up in the area thatyou've been hunting for a while and.
And.

(12:58):
But you can build more of arelationship with the deer that are
on your private property ascompared to the ones on public Land.
And I think you build that,you can build that connection more.
You can build that story up alittle bit more and have.
Like, for instance, there'sthis one deer that my wife named

(13:19):
Geronimo.
I saw him on camera one day.
I want to say it was back in2022 or 2023, September of that year.
He was right next to my standin the deep timber woods where I
call Fish Hook.
Ever since then, I. I neversaw him.

(13:40):
Never saw him in person, neversaw him on camera again.
But then it was last year.
The name or not it was lastyear, the year before.
The neighbor had a picture ofhim a full year later.
And I didn't even hesitate tothink, oh, that's.
Is that him?
No.
I knew instantly that was himbecause of the body, the way his

(14:00):
antlers were, and the way hewas and the presence he had in the
photo.
I was like, man, that's full.
Like, year, year and a halflater, I'm finally seeing you.
So you're still in the area.
You just turn in.
You're no longer Geronimo.
You're Mr. Ghost.
And just to build up thatstory case, and if God has it in

(14:21):
it where he allows me toharvest him this year or the next
year, whatever the case maybe, it's just an awesome story.
I guess the long gist of whatI'm trying to say, like I said at
the beginning of it, you canbuild more of a story case with each
deer.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
That was a long rant.
I apologize.
Yeah, that's all right.

(14:41):
No one tunes in to listen toyou anyways.
I. I just.
I just woke up.
I just woke up from that rant.
But no, like, I'm gonna spitwater over all this equipment.
You're so much better offmanaging private.
And then that got me thinking,you know, you're like, all right,
now I'm able to hunt private.

(15:01):
So what do I do next?
Oh, well, what about a lease?
Find a nice lease, right?
Lease that.
Now, I know Brett and I weretalking earlier, what, like, Thursday,
Friday or something like that?
Squats.
I wanted your opinion on this.
Yeah.
What.
What's your thoughts on goingwith an outfitter?
Not.
Not like a high fenceoutfitter, but a.

(15:24):
A free range outfitter.
I have a buddy who owns one inKentucky and then another buddy who
owns one in Texas.
Okay.
And they've been trying to getme to come down there and hunt.
It's all free range.
They have feeders set up.
I mean, but you're talking1500-2000 acres.
Right.

(15:44):
So what's your thoughts onhunting that?
Because everyone, everyonetalks trash about high fence hunting.
And I understand it, you know,you're going in there to harvest
me and to kill a trophy.
That's all they have.
Right, but what's up with.
Or what's your guys's thoughtson an outfitter?
Well, we all know I have mine.

(16:05):
You can go first, Adam.
Me?
Squatch.
Sorry.
I don't know why I called you Adam.
I'm an.
Okay.
I don't have a problem with it.
I mean, I don't have a problemwith the way anybody does.
Whatever.
If they're happy with huntingin a high fence situation, God bless
them, they got the money,that's what they want to do.
Maybe they don't have a lot of time.
They want to kill a goodtrophy buck.

(16:26):
Still got to make the shot,still got to recover the animal,
still got to process the animal.
No qualms if you bought it, whatever.
But when you explain it, don'tact like you killed it on public
land.
Don't act like, you know,you're, you're stomping the same
grounds we're stomping andtrying to set deer up year after
year after year for success.
That, that's so don't do that.

(16:47):
Oh, absolutely.
But if you go like an openterritory, say you're hunting over
8,000 acres and you go with aguide, you know, and he charges you
a certain amount, it's.
Yes, it's more of a fair chasestyle game.
Fine.
You know, I mean, I, I'm, Ihate the, the hunting attitude is
just ridiculous.

(17:08):
Well, because everyone's gotlike their opinions on certain aspects
of it.
And if it doesn't line up intolike our true blue collar working
way of it, you're ostracizedas a hunter.
Let's face it.
I mean, if the guy makes, youknow, a lot of money and he doesn't
have a lot of time and hewants to shoot a quality deer and
he's got the money to justsay, hey, screw it, I got five days

(17:30):
to get a quality deer and hedoes it.
So what?
I'm not going to begrudge theguy, you know, I mean, that's, that's
freaking awesome.
Good for you.
You kicked ass and made a tonof money and you're able to enjoy
yourself the way you want todo it.
By God, go do it.
But just don't say you did itlike we do it.
The other thing, like Johnnysaying, you know, do you gotta.
No I don't have a problem with that.

(17:51):
I think it'd be cool.
It's fine.
I mean, basically, it's justlike you hunting a big piece.
I've.
I've got, you know, 5, 6,7,000 acres of state land here that
I can hunt at any given time.
If there was a guide orsomebody that said, hey, I know the
ins and outs, I know the area.
Yeah, I try to get with themand try to save some time and not
have to power scout everything.
I mean, it's.

(18:11):
It's one of those things, youknow, and give you guys a quick.
A quick story.
My cousin lives two hours from here.
He's got over 800 somethingacres up behind his house.
And I was just power scoutingit for him by looking at the topos.
And he goes, I don't know howthe hell you did that, but you told
me to go right where I put my stand.
And we're look.
It's only because I taught himwhen he started out how to read land.

(18:35):
So he reads land like I do.
And then he's like, well, I'vegot this older buck.
Fine, man.
It's got to go to that nextknob back.
Get down in that valley.
Let them come up to you.
Because that older buck iscircling the knob back.
He's not circling the knobthat you're on.
That's where the immaturebucks are.
So, you know, it's nice, like,you can sit there, you can.

(18:56):
You can react and figure outbig tracks of land, and it's nice
to have an open opinion on it.
And when you've got a guidewho's walked a lot of that land year
after year after year, and heknows the ins and outs of it.
So what?
So be it.
Go on that hunt.
Have fun.
I ain't got no problem with it.
So that was the thing, I guess.
Myself, in my opinion.
Yeah, please, bro.

(19:17):
So when I went out to Oregon,I got a couple people who were like,
oh, you hired a guide?
I'm like, well, yeah, becauseoriginally I wanted to go out there
and do it all myself.
But coming from whitetail tochasing elk is a complete different
game.
Yeah.
And I was only out there for10 days, and I wanted to maximize
my chances.

(19:37):
So I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna.
I will pay somebody to who'sbeen out there, who knows the area,
who scouted, who hunts to, youknow, maximize my chances of getting
an elk.
Yeah, we've seen them everysingle day, but never got a shot
on one.
But, yeah, I'm absolutely Deadset on next year going back out with

(19:59):
the same outfitter and doingit all over again.
Brett, back to you.
Oh, thank you.
I appreciate it.
I can have my turn now?
Yeah, go ahead, princess.
Thank you, sweetheart.
I think so.
You can look at outfitters,free range ones and ones that have
high fences.
I think the ones that havehigh fences, I think they go themselves.

(20:21):
But it's a chance to go inthere and just shoot free caged animals.
I, I can go on and on.
I think those are just lazy, whatever.
And you can try to normalizein the sense of, well, it's to create
better herds, better animals,healthier animals and this and that.
That's fine.
If that's what you want to do,go do it.

(20:42):
And you go hunt there, youactually have all the right to go
do it.
But I think if you're going togo there and do that, I think, I
think you're just lazy, in my opinion.
And with the free range ones,who doesn't like, if we have a buddy,
like I have a buddy inIllinois, I want to go hunting down

(21:02):
there so bad.
How is he any different than aoutfitter where I'm asking him to,
hey, can you help me set up?
Where do I need to go?
This and that.
He's no different than anactual outfitter.
I'm just not paying him.
That's the only differencethat on the court route of it all.
Damn, I'm gonna have to charge him.
Yeah, exactly.

(21:22):
Like there's no difference.
I mean, like you said, John,you said perfectly.
You only have X amount of daysto do it.
And most of the time when wego on hunts, let's just say a general
rule, at a minimum, we have a week.
You have five to seven days toget that hunt done.
And you're doing everythingyou can done get.
You're doing everything youcan to try to make that.

(21:46):
Just say at a base $2,000 tomake that $2,000 roughly worth it
or was you just pissed awaytwo grand you.
So that's pretty close to whatI paid for my hunt, for my guide
and walking away from notharvesting an elk that season.
Dude, I.
The knowledge that I gainedfrom it was worth more than that.

(22:11):
I'm like getting out there,getting the experience, having that
knowledge handed down from theguide and just like being out there,
dude, they could have chargedfive times as much.
And if they would have toldyou that you're going to walk away
with it with this amount ofknowledge and this new passion for
elk hunting.
Oh, dude, they would have soldit to me for even more.

(22:34):
And I would have paid itbecause it's.
It's unbelievable.
Like, chasing elk has alwaysbeen a dream of mine, and I can't
wait to go back out next season.
But did that, like, I. I toldhim, I was like, there's a couple
things I'm taking away from this.
And one of them is, I thoughtthat you were going to ruin whitetail

(22:55):
hunting for me.
And they all were laughing,and I'm like, no, seriously.
But it just amplified the.
The drive to hunt more.
It doesn't matter what game.
It doesn't matter if it'ssquirrel season.
September 15, deer, October 1,or whatever it is.
It's just such an.

(23:17):
An amazing experience to hunt anything.
And it's.
Let me ask you this, Johnny.
Since you went on a guide to hunt.
I haven't.
I know that.
I know how I think I wouldinterpret myself if I was to harvest
a deer on a guided hunt.
I don't.
I'll give you my answer afterI hear yours first.
All right.
How do you think you wouldhave felt after the fact of getting

(23:40):
help from a guided hunt, dude,if you harvested a deer, would you
feel any different?
Would you feel slightly like,I got this deer, but did I do it
all, like, on my own?
Like, how do you think you would.
Have felt about it afterseeing my guides busting their ass
doing everything and then mekeeping up and like, you know, I'm
up in the mountains in Oregon,going from flat ass terrain, Michigan,

(24:04):
and they're busting their asstrying to find you an elk because
that's what you paid for.
And they're massive elkhunters as well.
So, like, they're like us, right?
When we take kids out, we wantto see them succeed.
We.
We're going to put them in thebest possible spot to be successful.
And that's what my guides were doing.

(24:26):
And I. I was amazed.
I mean, they're like, hey,listen, this isn't going to be easy.
And they were straightforwardwith me right off the bat.
They're like, this isn't goingto be easy.
If you want a big elk, we haveto go where they are, and it's going
to suck.
And it did.
But, dude, it was worth everybit of it.
Yeah.
And if I was able to harvestan elk, dude, it would have just

(24:48):
made it so much better.
That's good.
Yeah, I would.
I think I would feel 98% ofjust like, oh, I can't believe I
did this.
Because like Squatch saidearlier, you still at the End of
the day, let's just use bow hunting.
You still have to pull backthe arrow and put and execute an
X.
A great shot.
You still have to do all the fundamentals.
Exactly.

(25:09):
You still.
Yeah, I think I would feel everything.
Still feeling joy just the slightest.
Like.
And that's why I say only like.
Like 2% of like, well, I hadhelp on this, but I need the help.
I needed to do it.
I needed help because I don'tknow this area.
I don't know anything out here.
Well, that was like when Itook you out onto public.
Yeah.

(25:30):
And I was like, all right, Ihope you get one.
Say you shot a buck that night.
Would you be like, oh, man,this is so great, man.
But Johnny trying to help me, so.
No, I'd feel more just like,holy shit.
And that's what we were hunting.
And when I was out in Oregon,we were hunting public land.
So we were coming across.
We came across grouse hunters,which we're bow hunting elk.

(25:56):
They're blasting grouse with shotguns.
That's going to drive the elk out.
Right.
You come across other elk hunters.
Yeah, I mean, it was.
It was.
It was everything I wanted itto be, but nothing I expected it
to be.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
It does, Yeah.
I. I think.
Yeah.
At the end of the.

(26:16):
I'd still just be happing inawe and shock of like, I can't believe
this still happened.
And be cool and it'd be a lotof fun.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think there's just this bad.
What's the word I want to use?
Is it bad taste or bad around.
People'S mouths aboutoutfitters and stuff like that?

(26:40):
Because I know I said before,like, a lot of outfitters these days
are just buying up a lot ofland and taking away from public
land hunting and giving lessopportunity to force you to try to
go to these places to hunt.
I think that's part of it, too.
And the stigma around.
Oh, you went and bought yourdeer type deal.

(27:00):
Like, for instance, that onedeer that has like the.
It has the state.
The new world record, thebiggest whitetail we talked about
on the show, where it was likea thousand inches plus.
Oh, yeah.
That genetically modified deerout of like.
I think it was Missouri, I think.
I don't remember.
I. I think that's a lot of.

(27:22):
Honestly still.
But I think that furthers thestigma around.
Oh, you're just going outthere to.
Pay for these deer that allthese people do is you're paying
for people to set you up inthe right spot that did all the work
and all you do is pay them togo hunt these deer.
I think that along with it allis a stigma.

(27:44):
Yeah, yeah, it absolutely is.
What's up, Scratch?
I see that hamster runningaround in your brain.
Something running in yourbrain here.
Well, you know, you say aboutpeople spending a ton of money and
my train of thought is let's,let's take that and say let's look

(28:05):
at how much time goes into that.
So just as you would bebuilding your herd and being selective
on private land, imagine the planning.
Imagine just the route ofstudy that they have to do with genetics,
the money probably that they pay.

(28:26):
And then you wonder why theyget what they get, you know, for
a hunt.
When we're told by the statewe have to pay so much money for
a license every year to hunt.
You know, if you're huntingprivate, which I think is ridiculous,
that you shouldn't have to buya license if you're hunting on private.
If you hunt state land, sure,I could see you having to buy a license.

(28:48):
But you have to understandtoo, you're still hunting under somebody's
authority and you're stillfollowing somebody's rules and you're
still bound to, you know, haveto make the shot.
You have to get a deer.
You know that it's what's there.
It's the same thing.
It's just, it's a more directway of hunting.

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When you go on a fenced, highfenced ranch, you're still told what
to do, you're still paying afee, you're still doing the act of
hunting.
It's, it's just a more directway of it.
When you're doing it on yourown, you're still paying a fee, you're
still having to execute theshot and you're still having to take
care of the deer afterwardsand everything else.

(29:32):
So.
Absolutely.
It's just a larger scale ofhow extreme you go to, to, you know,
let's face it, you're notgoing to shoot a 200, you know, 80
something, non typical deeranywhere in land.
I mean, yeah, you might beatthat squirrel that finds a nut.
You get lucky and kill a big one.
Okay, cool.

(29:53):
Where these guys are makingthem, you know, they're making them.
So I mean, you gotta, it's,it's too, it's co.
It's cosmetic deer huntingversus down and dirty.
Just how everybody's alwayshunted, you know, and if that's,
it's, it's no different than sports.
It's no different with anything.
I mean there's, there's highroads and there's just a normal road
that people take.
Us average guys, we don't havethe money to blow on that kind of

(30:16):
stuff because we've got, youknow, bills and doing stuff.
It's, it's for the more topend people.
This one day, one day.
I don't even care.
I, I just, even if I did go ona high fence hunt, if I was with
you guys or I was with friendsor whoever, it's, it's a, who cares?
I'm on a high fence hunt.

(30:37):
I still got to shoot that deer.
I could quiff and freakingshoot over his back or you know,
put one in his ass or something.
But you know.
Oh, dude.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
It's just like, but it's the experience.
If you're there with friends,you're having a good time.
It's no different than like ifwe went to Indiana and we were all.
Hanging out, dude, if, if wecould afford it and we could all

(30:59):
go to a high fence area andhunt it and just have that experience.
Experience.
It's, there's, it's no different.
I, I, I'm gonna get for this.
But it's no different thanthrowing up a tent somewhere and
camping.
It's just that bonding experience.
The fun that we're having.
The class of deer in our, theclass of, the experience is tenfold

(31:22):
better.
But like you said, thefundamentals are there.
We still have to make that shot.
Brett would still whiff a shotand shoot like a 300 inch deer in
the face.
But hey, but no, it like.
Yeah, I, I completely agreewith that.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I, I, I just,I, it's always been like, I always

(31:48):
wanted one of those crazy likejumbo wackadoodle deer, you know,
that are in.
A high, a non traditional one.
Yeah.
Not, not typical.
Whatever, yeah, you know,whatever, you know, but I mean, it's
like I gotta face it.
The, the money that I make andwhere I'm going and what I've got
done and the only high fencething I'm going to be in is maybe

(32:10):
a prison.
I'm not going on, you know, Imean, it's just crazy, dude.
You know, the money, I meaneven if you went on a guided moose
hunt, you're in over access of35,000, $40,000 just to go on a moose
hunt.
It's not guaranteed either.

(32:30):
And it's not, you know, trophyfees on top of that and everything
else and You're.
You're two in there back, andyou know, there's a lot, man.
There's a lot, but like Isaid, if you go on a guided hunt,
8, 000 acres, it's not a high fence.
Yeah, man, I give you kudosfor that.
You're killing it.

(32:51):
You know, you're doing a good job.
Still got to make the shot, boys.
You know, you could be.
You could be like they say,you can lead a horse to water, but
you can't make it drink.
It sticks with a bow andarrow, too, man.
You can get.
Get them as close as you wantif you can't hit them.
All right, so.
So this is what we're.
I'm.
I'm gonna throw this out thereright now.
Okay?
Next year, 20, 26 bow season, I'll.

(33:14):
I'll reach out tonight to mybuddy out in Kentucky who has a.
He has an outfitter, and hecan give me discount.
We were in the army together,so I'll do some.
Oh, you're in the army.
Yeah, Yeah, I know.
Oh, you're welcome, Brett, foryour freedom of speech, you prick.
No, no.
Did anything happen to you overseas?

(33:35):
No, nothing.
I was pretty literally.
Anyways.
Squash you, Frank and NunchuckDave will have to all go out on a
hunt in Kentucky sometime.
Dude.
Hey, what the.
Oh.
Oh, Brett, too.
Yeah, I guess.
Brett, come along.
Yeah, come along.
Your face.
Oh, God damn.

(33:56):
Wow, look at the balls on this dude.
They finally dropped after 32 years.
I think he got back into thetippy cow.
I think so.
No, I shouldn't get him shotoff, but.
No, I. I think next.
That would be cool.
We would, you know.
Yeah, we should.
We should all get together,have a team, show out of there, promote

(34:17):
their, you know, theiroutfitter, and just have a good time.
I'm just.
I'm not going to go withFranco because I could just feel
like he's just going, frank who?
Frank who?
I don't know who that is, butif he goes.
I just feel like if he's.
If he's going, I want to.
I want my own room with alocked door.
Because I feel like he's justthat type of guy that would look
into my window and just belike, what a booty.

(34:44):
Frank was a. Frank was alittle scared to sleep in a camper
with me.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So now if Frank comes out withus, we have to make it super uncomfortable
for him.
Oh, my gosh.
Like, matching, like, pajamasor something just to really freak
them out.
Just the gayest things youcould find.

(35:06):
Dude, we all get weird leopard.
The ass flaps.
Yeah, no, those like, like getcheetah printed leotards.
Dude, I'm worried, man.
You came up.
You came up with that idea pretty.
Quick right where that went.
So that on the right, it comesup right between her ass cheeks and

(35:27):
we're like, hey, Frank.
I don't know where this shit'scoming from.
He would.
He would be so down.
He would.
You know, you gotta rememberhe's a pretty boy from Jersey, man.
Yeah, he's a pretty boy.
He's a pretty boy from Jersey.
He's like.
He's like, hey, you know when he's.

(35:47):
Dude, gtl, man.
Jim Tan laundry.
That's all.
Yeah, man.
That's what it's about.
Yeah, but so, you know, I waslooking into drones, Thermal drones.
Those are cool.
Expensive as boy.
Are they.
Holy shit.
Like five grand.
No, again.

(36:07):
7900.
Eight grand.
Ten grand.
No, I'm saying like, like a,like a cheap one.
Yeah, but you know, it's.
It's going to suck ass becauseI bought a cheap thermal, you know,
monocular to watch, you know,coyotes come in and it works.
Okay.
My cousin spent like another500 bucks.
And that effing thing isphenomenal, dude.

(36:29):
So with thermal imaging, youget what you pay for.
Definitely.
Oh, yeah.
But.
But I was watching a Recoveryon, on YouTube.
One of the public hunting guyscracked a nice buck and a friend
of his actually had one.
It was a dgi.
Really, really nice dude.
He flew over and you couldjust see that little heat signature.

(36:51):
And that dude was up like400ft in the air.
Yeah, he's like, like, there'syour buck.
The guy wasn't even near fiveminutes, man.
And you know what happenedwith my deer?
I had a major downpour after Ishot him.
And I was thinking, I waslike, man, that would be so nice.
But, man, that's just a lot of money.
So what I wanted to bring upto the board here, since we're all
on the show and everything is,you know, we should start a GoFundMe

(37:13):
for a drone for the whitetailadvantage, to raise money.
So us four or five, six guysdon't lose a deer anymore on the
show.
So maybe we could start like aGoFundMe page for that.
That would be cool.
I know they have.
I think it's a great tool.
I mean, I'm always.
Me personally, I'm alwaystrying to find ways to add things

(37:33):
to my tactical toolbox.
Yeah.
And that would definitely beone to have in there to help because
I remember a situation, Ithink it was four years ago now.
One of the hunters that huntson the private property with me,
he shot a deer with his gunand we couldn't find it.
They couldn't find it.
So they asked if I could comeout there and help.
And I came out there and I helped.

(37:55):
And I brought my dad's thermal.
Monocular.
Monocular.
Thank you.
Found it within like 10 minutes.
And it was sitting like rightnext to him, but they couldn't see
it.
And that thing was amazing.
So I think that's a greatthing to have because it saved a
lot of time.
And we saw the deer was it,wasn't it.

(38:18):
It didn't pass away yet.
So luckily we still found itand we were able to help put it away.
Dispatch it quicker instead ofmaking it suffering even longer.
Right.
So I think it's a great thingto have.
I know a lot of people saylike, it's.
It takes away the.
From the woodsmanship ofpeople, but I don't know how you
can use that as an argumentbecause you're tracking the deer

(38:38):
and sometimes you just can'tfind more blood and you need that
to help find.
So I don't know how that's agood argument.
I think it's a shittyargument, in my opinion.
You know what another greatargument is?
Is, you know, people are like,oh, what?
No, like, all right.
They're like, oh, you can'tuse that technology.

(39:00):
Okay, then go back toprimitive style.
Go back to your traditional bow.
Like not even.
Not even, you know, a lawn bow.
Go straight up stick and arrow.
But I think that's coming morefrom like the government, though.
Oh, absolutely.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah.
The government can't figureout a way to tax it yet.

(39:21):
No.
So they're getting pissed.
Exactly.
The government wants their cutinto it too.
And as soon as they can figureout a way.
Just look at Michigan, right?
We used to not be able to baitand then we could bait and then we
can't.
Now they're saying you cannotbait because it helps spread EHD

(39:42):
when it should.
But you can go ahead and paythis tag or, you know, buy this license
to allow you to bait.
And that's going to help withehd and it's going to allow you to
bait.
They just want their cut.
Exactly.
That's.
That's it.
And once you see that, you.
You just have to laugh andyou're like, are you serious?

(40:03):
Like, the state of Michiganwants to cut into everything and
here's reality.
I got 300 acres of apple orchard.
I watch deer, I watch deer eatunder the same effing tree and they're
all healthy as hell.
So if you had bait, it's no different.

(40:23):
You know what, stupid there.
So if ehd was such a hugeconcern, the whitetail, as soon as
they came up with their veryfirst licking branch, they would
have all been extinct.
Exactly.
They all look the same branchand run their.
They run their freakingorbital glands and everything on
those tree limbs.
Exactly.
It's a disease.

(40:44):
Disease, easy transmitting wayof that happening, you know.
And then you have those DNRofficers who are working with the
government saying, oh yeah,you know, nope, we can't bait because
of this.
But they won't look at thecommon sense facts.
It's no different than whenlike nowadays where we have men that

(41:06):
want to be women and womenthat want to be men and people can't
be consistent down the samefact of like that one lady from,
I think it was ElizabethWarren, I think he kept wanting to
say that she was Indian,Native American.
And they would say like, oh,we'll allow that.
So you allow that, but youwon't allow a man to be a woman or
a woman to be a man and thisand that or to change race and stuff

(41:28):
like that.
It's no different between thatand these deer of.
Well, these deer areconstantly doing the same thing day
in and day out, licking thesame branches from day one before
he was probably walked thegoddamn earth.
They lick each other.
They're licking each other'sasses, they're licking each other's
vaginas and dicks.
They're constantly sharing spit.

(41:48):
Look at scrapes on the ground.
And all these other thingsthat deer naturally do to communicate
with each other.
And you're trying to tell us,no, they don't do that.
How dare you think that theyspread ehd by doing that.
But.
And it's because of baitingout there too.
But you can do this.
Like you said, Johnny, youcan't bait.

(42:09):
But here's this tag that youcan pay 75 bucks for to go put that
deer out that, that, thoseapples out there and beta.
But guess what?
This, these are magic apples.
These apples aren't going tospread that ehd.
But you have to buy our apples.
You can't buy our apples fromthe tree like Uncle Ted says they
fell from this tree.
I'm going to move them over here.

(42:29):
Nope, can't do that.
You have to have thesescientifically enhanced hybrid apples
to help and just for.
The record, it's not EHD.
It's chronic wasting disease.
Is what?
Transmitted through.
Yeah, EHD's through a midgethat bites the deer and kills them.
So we.
We're on the same page with how.
All that works, but stupid.

(42:51):
It's just ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
There's so many.
They.
You know, I told you guys astory when I shot the bobcat.
It was during, you know, theCOVID crap and all that stuff.
And, you know, I called thetax nurse.
He's like, well, you got toget the pelt sealed.
I don't know.
I never freaking shot afurbearer or anything like that.
So.
Okay, I got to go to theregional office.

(43:11):
Here I go in.
All they do is write something down.
I said, you want to know howmuch it weighs?
No.
You want to know where it was shot?
No.
You want to know what it wasshot with?
No.
What the frick was the pointof me coming over here with this
critter to bother you guys?
You just wanted to have a sealon the pelt, you know, and it's like

(43:33):
these stupid things, and it's like.
It's so ridiculous.
I'm like, you know, take someinformation down about the biology
of how old that critter is,how it died, where it died.
What the.
You know, was it a male, wasit a female?
They didn't.
They didn't want nothing to dowith it.
I'm like, holy crap.
And then to top it off, he wasgoing to run the freaking tag to
its ear.
I said, you put a hole in thatdeer's ear or that bobcat's ear,

(43:54):
I'm going to be pissed.
Put it down there on his footsomewhere, you know, so it's just
stupid.
You know, you talk aboutthese, and we pay so much damn money
every year to these people.
And then.
Hold on.
Here's a.
Here's a better one.
So now we have paper tags thatyou print out on the computer here,
right, For.
For your license.
You can do it right online,print your tag out.

(44:17):
Everything else you still.
Now you don't.
We used to have seven days tocall it, and now it's got to be done
in 48 hours.
So no big deal.
When I shot that buck theother day, I came home, I called
the deer in.
It's done, over with.
But, you know, it's like.
And you don't have to have aback tag anymore.
I missed the days of actuallyjust filling out the nice tag, cutting

(44:37):
out.
The notches, cutting out thenotches, Putting.
It on the deer.
Hanging the effing deer in thegarage, you know, now I feel like,
like.
Like I'm always nervous, like,oh, my God, is somebody gonna roll
up, not see a tag on a deer?
Or, you know, you know, I. Ifeel weird.
Or I feel weird, like,digitally, like, going online and
logging it in.
I don't know, maybe becauseI'm just from the old days with everything,

(44:58):
but it just seems weird, man.
Like, technology's.
Technology's just, like,taking so much out of it, man.
So you have 48 hours to.
Yeah, we have 24 in the stateof Michigan.
Yep.
We have 24 hours to make thetat, which I always thought 24 hours
was.
You know, that's ample amountof time once you shoot your deer.

(45:21):
Normally you're like, oh, letme go ahead and do this.
And I've done it on my phone.
But what I don't like is, likeyou were saying, squatch, you have
that paper tag.
You.
You attach it to the antler,hand it in your garage.
Whatever you do, take it tothe processor, whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
I. I know for a fact,especially where I hunt, Brett, you

(45:42):
know, where I hunt, so manypeople will shoot a buck and claim
it as a doe because we can get17 DOE tags.
And it's.
Oh, yeah, it's antlerless.
Well, yeah, because it doesn'thave a head right now.
Like, it's just.
There needs to be moreaccountability for it.
I think it's just too.

(46:03):
They're trying to make it too.
Crackable, I think is the wordI want to use.
It's probably not a word, but.
Traceable.
Trace.
Traceable.
Yeah.
Traceable.
I grew up with.
Before the technology kind ofwas when I was 12.
It was roughly, I don't know,2000s in that ballpark.

(46:23):
And you didn't have to goonline and register your deer on
your phone, on a computer.
Back then.
It was like you said, I justput my fucking tag on my deer and
hung it up out in a tree inthe backyard, and that was it.
And we would take it to theprocessor, and that'd be it with
it.
And then a month later, Ifinally get my deer meat.
That was it.
Now, here in the state ofMichigan alone, and I know more and

(46:47):
more states are going whereyou got to do this all online, Register
your deer.
If you don't do that within 24hours, you're.
Yeah.
These deer processing placesnow, they have to have this H number.
Yep.
Before you can even take it in there.
Otherwise they're gonna get.
They're gonna lose theirlicenses and all this other.
So they're like, no, I don't need.

(47:08):
I can't take that unless Idon't have the H number.
Yeah, because the governmentscared them into all this crap.
And they ask you the moststupidest questions of, well, how
many boars did you see?
How many squirrels did you see?
How many acorns did you seethat fell on the ground?
And I'm always like, zero.
I saw like a million zero.

(47:29):
Like it's the stupidestquestions in the world.
It is.
It doesn't.
Doesn't do any good.
And actually, you know what?
I'm gonna say this.
It doesn't do any good for thedeer harvesting community.
It doesn't do any deer hunt.
Ah, it get myself.
Doesn't do any good for thehunting community in the state of
Michigan or anywhere else.
It doesn't do with the actualproblem of we have an overpopulated

(47:51):
deer herd in the state of Michigan.
We have so many deer.
Oh, and no hunters.
And we aren't solving those problems.
We have so many other bigfucking problems that they want to
fucking ignore.
And they want to look at themost minute problem of we don't have
enough acorns on the ground.
So we gotta fix that problem.
How do we fix the fuckingacorns on the ground?

(48:14):
Yeah, I just want to like slapthem like idiots.
Tell me, tell me how the meprocessing my deer online to get
this edge number is going tohelp the deer hunting community and
hunting overall in the stateof Michigan just on itself.
Please come on and tell me that.
Oh, you can't because you're a dumb.
You don't listen to us huntersin the state of Michigan.

(48:34):
You don't listen to hunters.
I think Illinois, for being ablue state, is the only state.
I think I've heard when we'redoing a lot of bringing people from
different states coming on theshow, that they actually listen to
their hunters from that state.
I think it was Illinois.
Or was it Kentucky?
Kentucky.

(48:54):
I want to think it wasKentucky too.
Or maybe it was Maryland.
But they listened to their hunters.
No, it was Iowa, I think too.
They listened to their hunters.
Like they have this huge,like, program where they come in
and they talk with thegovernment, like the DNR head people,
and they give them.
And they actually listen totheir feedback.
Yeah.
And I was like, wow, theyactually listen to you.
That's insane.

(49:17):
Sorry, I'm going on.
Because it's just.
It's a hot.
It's a like the liberals.
It's my trigger word.
Oh, Jesus God.
Jesus God.
I know I use that word.
Let me say this, though,because we're talking on the DNR
in our state anyways, Brett.
But on the same note, youknow, this year during the Liberty

(49:38):
hunt, originally, it wassupposed to be just antlerless.
It was only supposed to be one.
So I called the DNR to verify.
Hey, is it antlerless?
Is it both sacks?
What is it?
They told me what it was.
You know, you can shoot either deer.
And then jokingly, I said, all right.
And you know, the lady's like,oh, is there anything else I can

(49:59):
help you with?
Jokingly I was like, yeah, canyou tell me where the biggest deer
are in my county?
And she laughed and she'slike, well, what county are you in?
I told her, and no, they toldme the, you know, the best spots
on state land were to hunt.
Because on record.
Yeah.

(50:19):
And I was, I was shocked.
I didn't believe her because,Because, I mean, we talked so much
on the dnr and we see, wetalked about all the negative stuff
that they're not doing for thehunting community, but just to reach
out to them and be like, hey,listen, this is where I hunt.
Is this a good spot?

(50:39):
A lot of the times they'll,you got the guys on the ground that
are like, yeah, you know,that's, that's a decent spot, or
no, that, that's horrible.
I would hunt this area.
So it's.
When we do talk trash, it'sabout the higher ups who have so
disconnected from the huntingcommunity that when you actually

(51:00):
talk to one of the everyday,hourly salary, you know, hourly paid
people, they're all about itand, you know, they want to help
you succeed.
And I was so shocked andsurprised when, when she answered
my question of, hey, whereshould I hunt?
Like, where's the big deer?
You know, and they, they weretelling me, and I was like, man,

(51:22):
I, this is awesome.
I, I never expected that.
So all the, that we're talkingabout the dnr, they, they, they do
provide a service and you callout, reach out to them and ask them.
I mean, the worst case theycan do is laugh and say no.
Yeah, well, actually, the wayI heard that story went down was

(51:42):
they said, hold on, we got toconnect you with the operator.
And it was Nunchuck Dave onthe other side.
And he told you where all thebig deer are, because he knows where
all the big deer are.
He does.
And yet he hunt, he doesn'thunt him.
I Know which nunchuck Dave, ifyou guys don't know, is our, you

(52:03):
know he used to come on herequite a bit.
But yeah, he, he sees them.
Rumor has it he sees them.
Hasn't got one yet.
Passed up on one because ofwhatever unknown reasons.
I, I say he forgot his releasein his, in his truck, but I.
Think he just lays in his own bed.

(52:23):
Oh, that does this number.
He sees him on his camera too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had so many other things Iwant to say, like what's up buttercup?
Good thinking.
I just, I saw this video, Ithink I sent this to you guys and

(52:44):
I'm.
I just want to like here inthe hunting community, the hunting
content world.
I just, I don't know, I don'tknow if I'm ready to say it.
I just want you guys to knowthat you guys, we love you guys.
We want to say thank you toeveryone that's fans of the show.

(53:05):
I, I personally can't saythank you enough.
I feel like I over say it and.
But we love the support thatyou guys all giving us from the start,
from this to now.
And don't get me wrong that Iam just beyond beat tired.
I think I get like five and ahalf hours of sleep a night because

(53:26):
of my personal, I gotta getdone chore wise around the house
stuff for myself and contenthere with all this stuff to get organized.
I mean that's a lot oforganizational stuff that's gotta
get done.
How about doing the show andthen doing this other crap for it
and then personal time with mywife, my family and my kids.

(53:51):
It's a lot.
So I, I get a lot.
That's why I don't get a lotof sleep.
And I'm not saying like, oh,I've, I feel sorry for you.
No, I'm not saying that tofeel pity.
No, I'm saying it because Ilove what I do.
I love being able to come onhere and talk shit with everyone
here.
From whitetail advantage tosquash and Johnny Frank and Dave

(54:13):
and we get on here, we busteach other's balls and this and that.
I love every second of it.
I love every second of mebeing tired from not getting enough
sleep.
But every time I'm awake I getthat chance of being able to spend
time with my kids, spend timewith my wife, spend time with my
family, doing stuff around thehouse, doing whatever the case may
be, going out hunting.

(54:33):
I'm not saying it to like,hey, please feel sorry for me for
being tired.
No, I love the act of being tired.
Because guess what?
You know what happens whenyou're tired?
Great fucking shit happenswhen you're fucking tired.
You know the great wonders inthe world, Those were created by
the fucking tired people.
The giant buildings that werecreated, those were all designed

(54:55):
by tired fucking people.
And I want no doubt out thereto say I want Whitetail Advantage
to be the best fucking podcast.
I want it to be the bestYouTube channel there can be.
Because guess what?
Myself, we put together anamazing team here.
I can't tell you enough times.
Squatch has helped me out,Johnny's helped me out, Dave's helped
me out.

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Frank's been there once in a while.
No, he's not doing his hair.
Yeah, he's doing his hair.
He's whacking.
He's bleaching his butthole.
And no, but I, I, I wantWhitetail Vanish to be the best thing
there is.
There's no, I'm not denyingthat fact.

(55:37):
Feel like we've got the, theabilities to be the best thing that
we want to be the best YouTubeshow out there, best podcast show
out there.
And I'm not going to deny that.
At one point I'm going to sayI'm going to do everything I can
to make sure that we arenumber one in every facet of it.
I bust my ass to make surethat we get the places where we want
to be.
I have a vision for Whitetail Advantage.

(55:59):
I have a vision for Frank andSquatch show, a vision for mysteries
and a timber show.
I have a vision for everyone apart of this show here.
Everyone part of Whitetail Advantage.
And I just can't say thank youenough to everyone out there that's
tuned into our show to listento us on the audio versions.
That's become part of the brotherhood.
And we're not going to tell you.
Anybody know that wants tocome on the show.

(56:19):
We're not going to make fun ofanybody on the show.
Well, we might.
That's what we do here.
Oh, we do.
We will.
But we do it all in great funin nature because that's all, that's
what brothers do.
That's what brothers andsisters do.
We fight with each other, butwe, we make fun with each other.
And I know I'm going on and on.
I don't mean to, but part ofme, I wanted to say is to get this
off my chest and justeveryone's unique.

(56:41):
Stop worrying about what otherpeople are doing.
I don't care what otherhunting content pages are doing,
because we're doing our ownthing here.
And I know we got amazingsponsors here with the show, but
nothing's not going to stop mefrom speaking my mind, speaking how
I feel.
Sorry.
Because that's what we wereall promising this whitetail advantage

(57:02):
to be about.
We're not gonna hide the truthor the.
How we feel about certain things.
And, yeah, I guess I'll justleave it there.
But I just wanted to just,again, I just want to say thank you
to you guys.
Everyone on the show and partof the team, just say thank you.
I can't say thank you enough.

(57:23):
I'll follow that up.
I'll follow that up with, youknow, the opportunities that came
about here on the show withyou giving us, you know, the Frank
and Squad show and Johnnygetting, you know, the mysteries
outdoors.
What.
What's your thing called?
I'm sorry.
Mysteries in the timber.
Yeah, I see the unknown.
Sorry, but.
Which I listened to.
I did listen to the other dayat work and was picking on you a

(57:46):
little bit about the, oh,Michigan Triangle.
The Michigan Triangle and all.
And the Gingerbread Man.
The Gingerbread Man.
All that crap, you know?
Yes.
Stay tuned.
On November 18th, we will gointo the Muffin Man.
Yeah, but no, I mean, it's.

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It's really good, man.
People are listening.
I've gotten very good, youknow, commentary on what we're doing,
and people are listening.
They like it.
And, you know, it's just.
It's a good thing.
We.
We.
We talk to each other every day.
Guys you've known, give you alittle bit of backstory.
We.
We actually communicate earlyin the morning to each other till,

(58:29):
you know, all hours of thenight, sometimes in the middle of
the night, whatever.
And, you know, you can't justdo that with certain people.
It has to be the right bunchof people.
And, you know, I think it shows.
It shows the way we interactwith each other and how we get along.
And, you know, I don't lookdown on anybody.
You know, we have our fun.

(58:49):
We pick on Brett, you know,and, you know, we'll joke around
about Dave and me andwhatever, you know, we.
We.
We can.
We can dish it out and we cantake it.
And that's what men do, youknow, and that's.
That's what this world needsmore of, you know, it's none of this
bull crap with, oh, I'm offended.
I can't take that, you know,or somebody said this.
That doesn't make any sense to me.
And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

(59:09):
There's enough of that crap inthe world.
But we need Alpha men back.
Yeah.
And you know, it's.
It's like I said, I'm, I'm just.
It helps me.
I'm glad to be a part of it.
I'm glad to be a part of, youknow, the boondocks outdoors with
Mike and the Garden Stateoutdoorsman stuff with those guys.
I'm glad that we were able tofigure something out where everybody

(59:30):
was in agreement to let us doour things and, and you know, we
don't forget our brothers over there.
We, we always mention them andgive them kudos too.
And that's how it should be.
It's how it's supposed to work.
So thanks, everybody.
Thanks for your support too,with, with, you know, following me.
You know, I just got a newvideo out with that hunt that I killed
my eight pointer on.

(59:51):
It's on my YouTube channel, socheck that out.
But that's it, man.
That's all I got to say.
Johnny, do you have a rant by chance?
If not, it's okay.
I, I don't.
I really don't.
I got a, got a bottle ofwhiskey and.
What is it?
Buffalo Trace.
Oh, okay.
I couldn't see it when youwere whipping it.

(01:00:12):
All right.
Yeah, yeah.
Good stuff.
That's good.
That's not bad.
But no, I just don't reallyhave a rant.
That's good.
That's okay.
Maybe you can get one rant onyour show.
Oops, I'm sorry about that.
I put my quarter on mycomputer there.
You know, I just realized machine.
I put my slot machine in there.
I put my cord in the slot machine.
There you go.

(01:00:32):
You know what I just realized?
What?
So our show, WhitetailAdvantage show used to be every Sunday
and Tuesday.
Yeah.
Now it's not.
We're only doing Whitetailadvanced shows on Sundays at 8pm
and every other Tuesday it'sgoing to be the amazing Frank and
Squat show or mysteries in the Timbers.

(01:00:53):
Yeah.
You're only going to see meonce a week now.
Are you guys upset?
Because I think you guys aregoing to be upset like I am.
No, I think, I thinkeveryone's gonna be sad the fact
that they're not going to seeme as much.
Well, don't worry because onthis series of the Timber, when there's
anything police related or lawenforcement related, I'm gonna have

(01:01:14):
you on to get that perspectiveof it.
Okay.
So you'll, you'll still beable, you'll still be around.
All right.
I did contact the golf networkand told them that.
Oh yeah, You.
You had a day open now andthat they would be benefiting to
have you on their show to talkabout a useless sport like golf,

(01:01:34):
you know, one night a week.
So it.
Now that you're open, expectto hear from them.
And I think that fat chubbyfellow with the beard like me, that
guy's going to be reaching outto you too.
Maybe play around or do it.
Yeah, that's good.
You know, I actually reallydid think about.
You know, I'm gonna start.
I got you guys.
I got a cup.
Well, Brett's choking oncrotch for all our audio listeners.

(01:01:57):
Choking on balls.
It's all that sperm coming out.
Starting a.
A sports part to Whitetail Advantage.
Nice.
You should.
There you go.
Talk about college football and.
And golfing.
How great I am at it.
Pretty soon WhitetailAdvantage is going to have its own
producing company and that'swhat's going to.
Yeah.
Make all of our stuff.

(01:02:17):
Yeah.
Multimedia company.
You'll be like the new Harpo.
Well, everyone, again, I'm notgoing on rant.
I just want to say I'm gonnaleave it this way.
Thank you to everyone.
Every parts of everything.
Thank you.
Yeah.
With everyone knows how youcan find us.

(01:02:39):
If you don't know you're newto the show.
Well, welcome to the show.
Well, look, if a blind guy canfind on it.
If a blind guy can find us,you guys can find us.
Just if a blind eye can find us.
What took you so long?
Yeah, we're looking for a deafperson too, by the way.
Deaf person.
Now we gotta have a deafperson that hunts on the show.

(01:03:00):
So if you're listening.
No, I'm just kidding.
But into Morse code.
We've already interviewed twocrippled on the show.
Yep.
Now, and we've.
Then we've interviewed a blind person.
Now we just gotta interview adeaf person and then wait.

(01:03:21):
Then after that interview alimbless person.
I think we're all set.
You had limbless.
You had limitless.
Yeah.
Yes, you did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
The guy with one leg limbless outdoors.
Yeah.
Him and I were hunting in thesame area.
Oh.

(01:03:42):
I meant like.
Oh, what's.
He was missing his life.
He hit a tree with a Harley.
Yeah.
In the Navy.
Yeah.
Aaron.
Aaron.
Yep.
No, I meant like.
I meant like another one likewith like no arm or some.
Or like just like nubs.
We need a quadriplegic deafperson to.

(01:04:02):
Hit the trifecta of this.
Why do people listen to our show?
We're such.
I know you made shorts.
Please don't make this Oneinto one.
I do make shorts.
That's gonna be the number onedeaf be on the show.

(01:04:22):
So go ahead and reach out tous on Watail Advantage or Brett Bovin.
Yeah.
If you're a.
That has no limbs in depth, please.
Nugget.
The nugget hunter.
The chicken nugget hunter.
Oh, my God, dude, somebody'sgonna reach out.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you, brother.

(01:04:43):
Someone is.
Yeah.
Must be a to set up a trailcamera when you're like that.
Hold on.
Almost got it.
Wait, dude, let me just put my head.
Oh, my God, we're such dick.
So anyways, how do you dragyour deer out if you're a quadriplegic

(01:05:06):
dwarf with, you know, tripleamputee and want to be on a show?
We got a spot for you.
We have a spot for you.
We're interested in hearingyour story.
Yeah, especially if you knowthe muffin man.
The muffin man.
The muffin man.
The muffin man who live down lane.

(01:05:26):
Hey, if Shane can LOL at that,what we've just been talking about
the last 10, 15 minutes, thenwe're golden.
We're approved.
See?
He found us.
He found us.
Exactly.
If Mike says I'm part black.
Yeah, Then we're.
I'm justified.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
What are you justified in, Brett?

(01:05:47):
Being black?
Being.
Oh, what can you say?
Say oh.
I'm not gonna say that.
I say that in my car.
Yeah, you say that as a copall the time.
I know how it separates those ways.
Go.
Oh, God.
Holy.
Let's end the show before wereally get canceled.

(01:06:08):
Right?
Let's end the show and do theafter show on Patreon.
No.
Well, yeah.
You guys know how to find us.
Social media everywhere.
You know how to find everyoneon the team.
Head to our website, whitetail advantage.com.
learn more about eachindividual podcast show.
Learn more about eachindividuals on the team.
All stuff's on there.

(01:06:28):
You want to book a show, youcan do it through there.
You can reach out to us.
Well, have one of us on theteam or the entire team as a guest
on your show.
Whatever the case may be,reach out to us.
Book it on the Whitetail website.
Other than that, I can't saythank you enough again.
Johnny, you have any lastwords before we get to Squatch and
his final thoughts in prayer?
Yeah, of course.

(01:06:49):
If you have a hot sister orcousin that you want to hook me up
with, go ahead and DM me.
Reach out to us that way, andwe'll be all set and it doesn't.
Matter if it's a transgender.
That is a man that identifiesas a female.
Yeah, she's okay with either thing.
Lady boys.
Hey, pull the pole.
Hold a hole.
Never pull the hole.

(01:07:11):
Oh, man.
Holy.
On that note.
On that note.
I'm supposed to follow that upwith prayer, I guess.
So let's pray for dear Johnny,maybe Jesus.
I like to picture himhammered, drunk.
In the Leonard rose.
With a tuxedo on, singing thelast with a Mountain Dew.

(01:07:38):
All right, so, yeah,everybody, like I said, going outdoors
and more at the Squatch.
Check out that hunting videoof me smacking that eight pointer.
It's pretty good.
You can actually see I canactually shoot a bow, believe it
or not.
I'd appreciate it.
And check out everybody else'swork on here, and let's close this
thing out for tonight.
Father God, we thank you forthis opportunity of bringing us all

(01:08:01):
together here in thisbrotherhood of the outdoors.
We just thank you, Lord, forso many people that have, you know,
we've got to know over theyears here with this and people we
reach and help out and, youknow, made friends and.
And it's.
It's great, Lord.
And we thank you for all that.
We thank you for theopportunities every day to get up
and go out and hunt and enjoywhat we do here, God.

(01:08:22):
And we just continue to askyou for these blessings upon us.
Let us get our trophies.
Let us show ourselves who weare and keep us going the way we
have.
In your name, Lord, we pray.
Amen.
And that's it.
Shoot straight.
God bless and wait tillAdvantage is out.

(01:08:43):
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