Ep 4 / The Great Outdoors: Tips, Tales, and Deer Hunting Stories

We're diving into the wild world of hunting this episode, where Squatch shares his exhilarating tale of tagging a deer and the rollercoaster of emotions that came with it. From the thrill of waiting in the stand to the moment the arrow flew, we explore the highs and lows of the hunting experience. We also chat about the importance of having the right gear, like those awesome Warhead arrows that pack a punch! Plus, we take a light-hearted look at some bow setup mishaps, because who hasn't had a little trouble at the range? Stick around as we celebrate the camaraderie of the hunt and share some laughs along the way!

Takeaways:

• The Frank and Squatch podcast is all about celebrating the outdoors and hunting adventures, offering listeners a warm and friendly atmosphere.
• Frank and Squatch share their experiences and challenges faced during hunting trips, emphasizing the importance of perseverance and community support.
• Listeners can expect practical tips on gear, strategy, and the emotional journey of hunting, especially the highs and lows that come with it.
• A recurring theme in the podcast is gratitude towards supporters and the outdoors, highlighting the beauty of nature and the bonds formed through shared hunting experiences.

Episode Transcript

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The Frank and Squatch, wherethe outdoors comes alive.
Join Frank, the bow huntingtactician, and Squatch, the backwoods
storyteller, as they dive intoeverything hunting, from chasing
whitetails in the timber totracking elk in the mountains.
Gear, talk campfire tales andlessons learned the hard way.
If it's wild, rugged androoted in the hunt, you'll find it

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here.
This is the Frank and Squatch show.
Hey, what's up, brother?
We are back.
We are back.
We have good news.
Yes, we do.
And, you know, it's.
It's.
It was about that, you know,it was bound to happen.
We knew we'd get there andstart having a little bit of celebration

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about killing our deer.
And I just want to open theshow and I want to tell everybody
thank you.
You know, you guys all support us.
You know, I can't say enoughgood about our products, the people
who support us, the productsthat we use.

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You know, these.
This stuff isn't possiblewithout your guys's help, you know.
And, you know, you guys, youknow, okay, I'm the Squatch.
I'm mythical.
I'm this guy that's, you know,been in deer woods a long time and
stuff.
But every time I go out, I'mamazed at what God created.

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I'm just me, guys.
I'm nobody special.
You know, by all means, it's.
It's a decent deer.
I'm really happy with it.
But thank.
Thank you, everybody.
Thank you for the.
The congratulations from everybody.
You know, thanks for watchingour show.
Frank, my brother, my go to.
You know, your support.

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I was going crazy last night.
You know, we'll get into thestory, but, you know, it's people
like you, people I can confide in.
Yeah.
That got the similar experiences.
The.
The time in that, you know,corral the.
The madness of what I wasgoing through.
And, you know, we'll.
We'll get into that story.

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But I. I really just wanted totake the time and.
And first, you know, thank thegood Lord Almighty because I am not
nothing without him.
He made me who I am, assometimes I question it and I say,
you know, why.
Why are things so hard sometimes?
But, you know, but just great,great companies, great products,

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you know, and.
And having the experience thatyou have.
You look at these products,you know, some of them are.
And some of them are.
Are really awesome.
And, you know, I thank all my.
All my companies, all mycorporations I work with.
I thank you guys from thebottom of my heart.
You know, Gerard from Rack Getter.
Yep.

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I. I don't even Know, man, I,I reached out to Gerard and I said,
gerard, I. I've got asituation where I need to hold dear
here.
Can you send me somethingthat's going to work?
He took the time out of hisbusy schedule, you know, and he said,
sure, this is what you do.
I will send you the stuff.
Let me know when you get itand let me know how you make out.

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And I let him know today how Imade out, even though I butchered,
I butchered to thank you and Icalled him Iraq Getter.
When you text, you know, I gotmy hands full of deer meat.
I'm trying to edit a thing tothrow on Instagram, let people know
what happened, and I blow the,the thank you out of the water with
a screw up.

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So I apologize for that.
Everybody knows Rat getter 2.0.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, guys.
Thank you so much.
Warhead arrows.
Guys are making them freaking arrows.
So tough.
That arrow, my cousin said inthe video, he says, my God, that
thing went like a rocket.
He goes, it looked like atrace around.
I said, it's the qualityarrows I use.
They're great, you know.

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Yeah.
And you know, the wreck heads,you know, they, they did the job.
And, and I, I just, you know,my old Matthews, I shoot a 3Z, you
know, it's, it's, it's justreally cool, man.
I love that bow.
I almost got rid of it thisyear, but I said, nah, we'll kill
something with it another year.
And all my brothers andsisters out there, you know, we,

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we, we back each other.
You know, Frank and I havekind of mitigated out on our own.
We're kind of, you know,testing the water, seeing how our
show's doing.
We're getting a lot of niceresponses back from people.
I mean, I see a ton of peoplehere in the comments.
Thank you, guys.
You know, Justin, you're afaithful follower.
We got turkey slayers, mybuddy out there in Montana joining

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us tonight.
We got boondocks.
Yeah.
Mr. Mike, man.
Let's go, boys.
He had a great day, you know.
Yep.
I'm not gonna spoil it.
I want him to talk about itwhen he gets his time.
But he did very well today also.
You see the support that,that, you know, it's that drive,
man.
You know, when I'm out thereand I'm, I'm humping, I'm really

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freaking putting my nose tothe grindstone.
When I'm out here in thesewoods, I've got a reputation to hold
up to my followers, myviewers, they Want to see the Squatch.
They want to see what he'smade of.
They want to see this guy come through.
And I hope I did everybody right.
I mean, we.
I went through a lot.
I went through a lot.

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And following these bucks,Frankie knows him, and I've been.
Been going back and forth,but, man, enough of my chitter chatter.
Bring us into the show, Frankie.
Come on.
Oh, man.
Listen, you started off good, man.
I'm having a celebratory beer.
Don't mind.
If you want to crack one open,have one with me, go for it.
It's been a good old day here.

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I mean, I couldn't.
I couldn't be happier for you, brother.
You know, I was.
I was stoked.
I knew that we were going tohave a good show tonight.
It was almost.
I'm going to piggyback offwhat you said a little bit for.
For Gerard, for one of them.
Not only does he makephenomenal products, but, like, every
time I reached out to him,within minutes of me texting him,
he's always like, yo, call me.

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He'll always walk you througheverything, get you everything you
need.
I mean.
I mean, he's just.
He's a great guy, greatcompany, man, and I couldn't thank
him enough.
Mr. Mike Nitray, you're theman, too, brother.
You're.
Everybody's slaying it.
I mean, the whole Boondocksteam in general.
I mean, they're just.
We're just killing it thisyear, you know, so I'm proud of everybody,

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and, you know, I'm ready totalk some more about hunting, man.
What about you?
Oh, yeah, no, definitely, youknow, it's.
It's the team.
You know, it's our teams.
It's.
It's the way to advantage.
You know, we got Dave andJohnny and Brett, and, you know,
Dave's one of the guys I hitup this morning.
I. I said, you know, you'vegot a lot of years in the woods like

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me.
Here's the shot.
Tell me what you think.
He's like, bro, I. Dude, thisguy went and freaking edited it on
his laptop, then sends me theedit, and he's like, it's a dead
deer.
I'm like, I think so too, man.
So, I mean, should.
Should I get into it?
Should I.
Should I tell everybody?
Kind of.
Yeah.

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No, absolutely.
Go for it, man.
All right.
All right.
It's your show tonight, brother.
Ah, no, I love you so much, man.
I want to hear your stuff, too.
You know, it's just.
You'll get them.
You'll get them.
My shit's boring.
I want to hear this one.
No, but, so, okay, you know,let's, let's rewind yesterday.

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Well, let me start out.
I've been watching Three GoodBucks by the house here.
One I call Mr.
Perfect.
He's a big, nice eight.
He's unique.
I've watched him since lastyear, the year before.
He's gone missing for likeabout the last week.
In two days I haven't seenhim, which he does.
A buck that I hit high in thefront shoulder last year came back,

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didn't kill him.
It was a heartbreak last yearfor me.
He came back and he's beenshowing up and I've got him pretty,
you know, on a good routinewhere I see him just about every
night.
He's got a daylight.
And yesterday where he's beenshowing up.
I decided, well, let me slipinto that spot.

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I'm getting a lot of activityand I might have a good chance.
I think I know where he's betting.
And you know, being he's stillrunning at night, I figured, well,
it's going to be probably downto that last golden hour when he,
he might slip out and come out.
So I got in my trusty ladderstand and I'm sitting there, you

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know, playing around with myphone or whatever.
Looking around, lookingaround, texting me what you were
up to.
And you know, it was gettingcloudier and I'm like, what the hell
is it supposed to rain?
I didn't think it was supposedto rain.
And the wind picked up.
Now the wind shifting, blowingright out to where I'm.
He's might come out and I'mlike, well, I just took a scent free

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shower, you know, let me seewhat the hell's going on and everything.
Hey, Urban, there he is.
There's Dave.
What's going on?
Dave just climbed down fromhis fresh hard telephone pole.
Yeah, so it's starting to geta little bit later.
And I, I says, well, I hadthat feeling, you know, it just,

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you sit and put so much timeinto these animals and you know how
you, you start questioning yourself.
You're like, well, damn it, Iknow that deer's bedding over here
somewhere.
He's got to come out.
And I know he wants to breedand I know he's got to eat.
So I've got the best of both worlds.
Let me see what he's gonna do.

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Lo and behold, I hear somestuff moving and I'm like, that is
a deer walking and it just gotup from its bed.
And when.
I mean, he got up from hisbed, he was about 65 yards away from
me.
He must have heard me come in,assumed I was something else.
I'm kind of sneaky.
I don't want to brag.

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Kind of sneaky, you know, kindof don't get a big head, Squatch.
But I'm kind of squeaky, you know?
Squeaky, sneaky, squeaky.
A little bit of both, yeah.
So I. I sneak my fat butt upin my tree stand.
And, you know, now I hear him coming.
So I reach over.
I have an Insta360 camera.
That's what I took the footage with.

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I turned the thing on, and I'mno technical wizard.
I'm.
What is this thing on?
And I'm looking at it, lookingat it.
And, yeah, all the legends are here.
We got all the good guys on here.
And I hear him coming, and hecomes out of the thick stuff into
the corner of the orchard.
And I'm like, okay.

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I see horns.
It's warrior.
It's a target buck.
I'm after Warrior.
He's the one I shot last year.
So he comes out, and I'm like,okay, this is gonna happen tonight.
And he could walk straight andgo totally away from me.
Or he's gonna turn and comeacross the lanes of the orchard where

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I am.
So I said, lord, do you wantme to kill that buck?
Is that why you put him out infront of me?
Think I'm nuts?
I always talk to God whenthese things are going on.
And I said, well, lord, ifit's meant to be and you want me
to take him tonight, make himcome up to that fresh rack getter
scrape that I just made out infront of me.

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So the buck comes up two more lanes.
He starts kicking a scrape.
And I'm like, hey, dopey, Ialready made one right there for
you.
Go check that out.
Well, the wind pushed it.
He started smelling the hot.
The trot.
And I said, this is going to happen.
And I looked over at thecamera again, and I'm like, is this

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thing on?
Yep.
It's blinking.
Okay.
And I always give myself thatpet talk if I got that couple of
seconds.
I said, all right, squatch,you know, he's coming in, he's close.
Aim low because he's going tojump the string.
He's a smart buck.
Get it done.
Make yourself proud.
Take a good shot.
Take your time.

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Stay steady.
Well, he walks into theopening, and I draw back.
And he does that.
And I'm like, oh, he saw Me.
But he wasn't looking up.
He just.
He must have saw something as peripheral.
So I'm like, come on, buddy.
Don't spook.
Just stand there.
I got back to my anchor point,and I took my time.

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I'm like, you're on video.
Don't screw this up.
I'm telling myself, a lot ofpeople rooting for you that you can't
let down.
You're a good shot.
Take your time.
Make it count.
I aimed a little low.
I aimed forward, and I touchedit off.
And if you guys watch thevideo, all you see is that arrow

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go like a missile.
So whack.
And you hear it hit him, andit lands on the ground.
And when it went through him,it kind of, like, arced.
It was kind of weird, but Iknow why now.
After I saw where the.
The exit arrow.
The arrow had exited down thedeer well, he takes off like a freight
train heading for Mississippi.
And I'm like, this guy's gone.

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I watch him go down the laneand disappear.
And I was like, okay.
I folded my hands and Iprayed, and I said, God, help me
stay calm.
Help me stay aware of what'sgoing on.
And please don't let thisanimal suffer.
It's never my intentions tohave an animal have a rough time

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at it.
I made the best shot possible.
Please let this deer succumbto what I did.
Nope.
And you'll see that on my video.
I actually pray.
You'll.
You'll see me fold my handsand pray.
So the next step, after wetalk to God, we talk to the almost
next best thing.
Frankie.
I called Frankie.
I said, frank, guess what?

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He's like, you shot one.
I'm in my stand.
I know you shot one.
I don't care if I scared theother dude away.
I just wanted to know.
You shot one.
I did shoot one.
He goes, what was it?
I said, it's Warrior.
Are you kidding?
It's Warrior.
I said, yep, it's Warrior, man.
I shot him.
He's like, oh, man, that's awesome.
Well, as I'm talking to Frank,I hear the rain starts coming down.

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Yep.
And I'm like, oh, no, no, no,no, no, no, no, no.
I'm like, please, just be aquick shower.
It starts coming down, and I'mlike, are you kidding me?
I just shot the buck I'mafter, and now you're gonna pour
on me, Lord?
I'm like, what is this, a tease?
What did I do now that I was sorry?
I said, I apologize foreverything I've done.

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That's wrong.
But, please, God, what did Ido now?
Now you make it rain on me.
He's like, I'm not gonna makeit easy for you.
So where I am, I could sneakdown very quiet, not spook anything.
This is orchard.
There's not leaves.
I creep over, and that arrowfrom one end to the other is just
full of blood.
And I'm like, good enough.

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Let's let him lay down.
I'm going home.
So I walk back to the house,and my son, Corey, you know, he stops
over after he's done.
Come on, let's go look for him.
It's starting to rain harder, Pop.
All right, let's go See?
Got blood all over the arrow.
I got blood where I hit him.
There's some hair on theground, and I can't find blood.

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And I'm like, oh, Lord.
So I had reviewed the video abunch of times.
Frankie was looking at the video.
I sent it to my cousin Brian.
He's.
He's like, bro, you centerpunched him.
He's dead.
All right?
Walk around.
It's pouring rain, so we ain'tgonna find nothing.
All this blood's gone.

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It's grass.
It's grass.
Orchard grass, really.
I mean, it's.
No.
We walk up about 45 yards, Isee some blood.
I'm like, okay, so now you'restarting to think, did he hook to
the left?
Did he just run straight anddie in the orchard?
What happened?
Well, we're not figuring thisout tonight.
I'm not pushing a deer.

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It's an iffy thing.
When in doubt, what do they say?
Back out.
Well, I backed out.
I called Frank, startedtalking to people.
I don't know if it's good.
Did I do right?
Did I hit them right?
Should I have shot?
I don't know what the hell I did.
Stop.
You're a good shot.
You're a good hunter.
You'll get them.
You'll get them.

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Yeah, you always hear that.
Then you start to.
Maybe I.
Maybe I screwed up, you know?
And I knew he was quarteringto me pretty hard, and I. I don't
know.
I got caught up in the moment.
I know better, but I gotcaught up in the moment.
I.
And I'm.
It happens, brother.
I'm pretty.
I'm pretty confident when I shoot.
You know, I'm not perfect oranything, but I'm pretty confident,
you know, I got faith in myself.

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I can make shots.
I've been shooting bows for along time, and I did it.
So.
Anyway, let's get Back to the story.
Enough's enough.
I came home, it did clear up.
I said, guys, where do youthink that deer went?
He's like, oh, I might havewent to the right, went up the hill.
I'm like.
And I don't know.

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All right, I took my.
Yeah, I took side by side.
No, no, no, the.
Oh, wait, no, no, that was.
That wasn't last night.
No, I took the.
The damn monocle that I usewhen I'm.
What the hell did I call it?
The heat seeker thing, youknow, I.
Know I've seen it before.
So I take that out and I'm.

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I'm looking for any heat upand down the orchard lanes with it.
And, you know, I usually usethat to scan for coyotes and stuff.
And I.
My thermal.
That's the word, thermal.
Congratulations, you know?
You know.
So I take the thermal out,looking up and down the orchard lanes.
I don't see any heatsignatures or nothing.
I'm like, go home, stupid.

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Go get some sleep.
Start over tomorrow.
Oh, I did.
Started off this morning,bright and early.
Rode around the orchard,hoping for maybe seeing a dead deer
laying in the orchard.
Nope, nope.
Came home, grabbed my trustybeagle Kona, and I said, come on,

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Maybe we could teach you to bea recovery dog.
I took her out, let her smellthe arrow.
And you know what?
Believe it or not, she figuredit out.
She went down that lane as faras that deer went.
And I thought she was justscrewing up, but she.
She actually was on them andcome down to the end of the orchard.
It's about 230 something, youknow, And I. I just.

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They.
Oh, Remington is excited forUncle Squatch.
Hi, Remy.
Yes, sir.
Thanks, Remy.
Uncle Squatch loves you, buddy.
Thanks for watching.
So, went down to where there'sa bunch of goldenrod and swamp.
I called the one guy I know.
I said, hey, you mind if Ilook through the swamp behind your
house now?
Go right ahead.
I jumped down in there.

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I didn't see any blood going in.
I saw the sign.
I figured, okay, I know where,you know, the bucks are living.
I saw they were down there.
I said, okay, let me take thedog back home.
Got the dog back home.
Gave her some water and cookieand stuff for helping me out.
And Corey, my son there, he.
Pop, I'm done hunting.

(19:21):
I'll come over and help you,all right?
You know, I walked probablyfour miles back and forth through
the orchard already riding around.
Long story short, kid comesover with me, says, let's go up top,
right around.
Maybe he Went up top.
All right, go up there.
Nothing.
I said, you know where thatbuck's laying?
He says, no.
I said, ned, swamp right there.

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Only place he could have went.
And he button hooked.
That's where he came from.
He knows he's safe.
They always button hook backto where he came from.
You said it.
I said it.
Yep.
I said it yesterday.
Yep.
I said, if any.
If he went anywhere, he's inthat swamp.
Well, into the golden rod we go.
And I says, you go down there,look around, I'm going to be here

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looking for any deer trails Isee going into it.
See if I see blood, anythingfrom yesterday.
Hopefully we find them.
Well, the kid doubles back andI hear, pop, pop, pop, pop.
I'm like, what, he's dead?
You got him?
I'm like, you found him.
He goes, yeah.
I said, you got to be kidding me.
Really?
He goes, he's lit.

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Is he big?
Yeah, he's nice.
I said, all right, cool.
I said, I'm coming, so getdown there.
And the kid drug him out.
What a job he did, you know?
Yeah.
For you guys.
I don't know.
My.
My son Corey is not my blood,but he's my adopted son.
I call him my adopted son.
He's been my right hand formany years now.

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Well, this kid works hard, man.
And he, he pulled that deer.
And dude, I was just choked up.
And I told him, I said, youknow, the good lord all those years
ago put you in my life for a reason.
And this is one of them.
You helped me, you know, andit's cool, man.

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I just, I'm just grateful, youknow, I'm grateful for him.
He's helped me out a lotthrough the years with stuff and
still does.
And, you know, he's actuallyhunting my other class a spot.
Over.
He's all.
He's only.
You're about.
You're there too on the list.
Frankie, you can.
I'm almost, I'm almost there.

(21:29):
You know, he's.
He's got pull with it with meand he can go in my stands and stuff.
He's watching a good one overthere where I grew up.
And I, I actually had him, hada nice buck on camera on there the
other night when he was just leaving.
But yeah, so the kid helps meget them get him up to the side by
side.
Now my next concern is that Ilose the deer to the weather.

(21:54):
I never like to waste an animal.
It's.
It's not me, it's not in my blood.
And I start feeling around onthe deer.
And he's.
He's cold.
And I'm like.
I'm like, well, he's kind ofstinky because that arrow, when I
hit him, went just behind thefront shoulder, ran down the length
of the deer, and exited outmaybe 3 inches in front of the hip.

(22:19):
Okay.
So it.
It had the grand slam of everything.
And saw down the length ofthat deer.
And that's another reason whyI shoot a 250 spline arrow.
Heavy, heavy, heavy kinetic energy.
It's like using a.45, 70versus a.22.
So I start checking the deer out.

(22:39):
I said, okay, here's whatwe're going to do.
I'm not going to gut him out.
He's too stinky.
I'm not touching the innerloins because obviously there's nasty
next to it.
Not taking a chance, I openedhis back up and I took the back straps
out and they were fine.
No smell.
They were cold.

(22:59):
Great.
I got down to the hindquarters.
Everything was good.
Not too hot, you know, normal.
Nothing turning green oranything like that.
Perfect.
So we.
We got to use a lot of the deer.
Nothing.
You know, I took as much as Ipossibly could off the animal, and,

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you know, that's safe.
I don't want to take a chance.
I will not take a chance withtainted meat.
Yep.
And around it enough to know it's.
It's in good shape.
Everything was cold.
Thank God.
We got that little bit of acold snap last night.
And where he leads was in a bottom.
So, I mean, he.
He had the shade and he hadthe coolness of the mud next to him,

(23:41):
so that, that helped preserve him.
And I think it was justanother gift from God saying, you
know, we don't want you tohave them wasted.
You know, I know it was a lotfor you to find them and whatever.
So, of course, then after allthat, I make the phone calls, take
the pictures, I screw uppromos to call in an Iraq getter.
Yeah.
You know, it's just a world.

(24:02):
It's just shitstorm.
A whirlwind to everything.
Just trying to get everything done.
Yeah.
And, you know, reaching out toeverybody you love and who cares
and who wants to know that yougot something.
And.
And it was a busy day.
Busy day.
Getting, Getting stuff done.
Came in, processed the meet up.
We got it packed up.
My wife and I got everythingbagged up and cooled down and into

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the freezer.
And I'm going to be doing aEuropean mount of that head.
I've got enough dustcollectors behind me.
Yeah, I just go to European route.
Unless they're an absolutegiant or something.
Yeah, I hear you, but, youknow, that's.
That's about it, man.
I mean, it was just an awesomeday, you know, Once again, everybody

(24:48):
that rides the waves of the.
The Internet and our shows andour camaraderie, you know, and you
guys hang in there with meand, you know, you got your faith
in me and hope I didn't letyou down.
I hope I did a good job.
I. I just, I always try my best.
Guys, I'm getting older.

(25:09):
It ain't as easy.
Killing's getting harder.
Yeah, seems that way, right?
I. I just, I. I know Isurround myself with good people,
people who are like minded,people who care.
And when you got somethinggoing on, especially with the outdoors
and the outdoor community, wehave all our boondocks family, our
whitetail advantage family, myInstagram family, all my guys out

(25:33):
there, everybody who followsus, and some gals.
Thank you from the bottom ofmy heart.
I'm no legend.
You guys all call me a legend.
I'm no legend.
I'm just God's creation.
No, man, couldn't.
Couldn't say better myself, man.
I mean, like I said, I was, Iwas very proud of you, you know,
especially like, like you weresaying before.

(25:55):
When I got that call, I haddeer within 15 yards.
As soon as I. I looked and Ifelt that phone vibrate more than
once, I, like, I had it.
Actually, I had it in mybinocular case on my chest.
So I like, flipped it as soonas I saw.
As soon as I saw Squatch, I'mlike, whoop.
I'm like, trying not to drop it.

(26:15):
I. I already knew you had.
You had one, man.
I'm like, I'm like, tell meyou got one.
I don't even care, you know?
Like, I got plenty of time to hunt.
Tell me which one it is, youknow, and I just, I was so proud
of you, man.
Then for you to be like,you're like, yeah, man, I shot him.
It was a good one.
And then you're sending me thevideo and like I said, like, for

(26:38):
me, the video was a littlefuzzy, but I was still like, hey,
man, like, I could, I couldsee the.
The deer's body.
I think this is, you know, it looked.
It looked good to me.
And I. I told you that last night.
I'm like, I think he's dead.
100.
I screwed up, though.
I screwed up.
I just realized I left a part out.
So.
The bucket killed the buck.

(26:58):
I killed Wasn't Warrior.
Okay, so last night when allthis crap happened.
Last night?
Yep.
I woke up this morning, mycell camera tells me, oh, look warriors
here.
And I'm like, oh my God, is he alive?
And I'm like, how the hell.
I said, okay, now I'm out of videos.
Thanks, Moultrie.
I'm out of videos.
Really?
Oh, that figures.

(27:19):
So I gotta go, I gotta go buyvideos now.
I can watch him.
He walks off.
It's fine.
I'm like, I. I didn't shoot Warrior.
I'm like, who did I shoot?
Yeah, yeah, that's a very good point.
I remember you saying that to me.
Who.
I. Warrior is a five and ahalf year old buck.
This was Warrior Junior, andWarrior junior, it's a three and

(27:43):
a half year old buck.
So I realized, okay, I gottago find out who the hell I killed.
And I do have him on inventoryin my cameras.
I'll get that pictures up onInstagram because it's nice having
a little bit of history.
Yep.
We got a new guy.
Woody.
62620.
That's awesome.
Congratulations.
Thanks, Woody.
Yeah, you know, it's, it's.

(28:06):
I left that part out.
So, yeah, no, Warrior's stillalive and well, I can't guarantee
that's going to happen whenrifle season starts.
Somebody might get him or Imight get them.
We'll see.
We'll see.
God willing, you know.
But yeah, I left that littlepart out that I did not kill Warrior.
I killed.
Yeah, Junior.
No, absolutely.

(28:26):
There's still a good buck.
You know, I'm happy.
I'm just happy.
I'm grateful.
It's nice to find the light atthe end of the tunnel when everything
was dark.
And I'll tell you guys, youguys that are hunters, I'm sure you
guys know, and especially itsucks when you get it on film and
you're like, I. I don't knowhow to explain it.

(28:48):
That shot was dead.
And I get down and I got anarrow full of blood.
And I'm like, really?
I'm like, there's no blood.
How am I gonna find thisfreaking deer?
And.
But you know, it's like weboth looked at it.
Excuse me.
We both looked at it and wewere running the scenarios and you

(29:10):
know, like last year with your deer.
Okay, up Sullivan, when youshot that buck, and I got up there
later on in the afternoon, Isaid, where did you shoot him?
And you said, up the hill.
I said, okay.
I said, where's police?
You got blood.
You were like, down here?
Yep.
Guys, if you don't use Onyx orone of the apps that have a tracker,

(29:34):
get one, it helps.
So I mark where Frank shot the deer.
I mark where Frank had blood.
That gives me a direction.
Just like if you took toiletpaper and stuck it on the trees every
25ft or so.
Yep.
So that Onyx says you're thatbuck is going this way.
Now, we all know deer orbutton hook.

(29:56):
We know they'll double back sometimes.
But I'll tell you, I'venoticed a little bit of a pattern
with the bucks lately.
If they're on a dead run,they'll go pretty straight until
they're ready to die.
Then they'll hook and drop.
Not all the time.
I mean, don't hold me to everydeer you've ever shot, but a majority
of them, they tend to go.

(30:17):
If they're moving in thatdirection, they're going to keep
moving in that direction.
And that's what happened withthis deer.
It stayed down the lane of anorchard and ran on a dead run for
200 plus yards.
How?
I don't know.
I, I.
There's no human alive thatcan endure that pain.

(30:38):
These animals are psychotic ofwhat they can take.
I mean, I, I, I don't know howthey have the stamina, the allout,
you know, thing.
Who the hell is Whitetail Advantage?
Have you ever heard of these people?
I never heard of him.
He must be new.
I think he lives in a trailerpark in Michigan.

(30:59):
I'm not really sure.
Something like that.
Yeah.
Next to a golf course or something.
I think I hangs out with a.
Guy that's like Mr. Leahy.
I think his name is Johnny Nitro.
Ah, that guy.
Yeah, I heard nothing goodabout him either.
So funny.
Brett.
That's Brett Bovin, guys, foryou guys.
I don't know.
Our host on WhitetailAdvantage, Brett helped us create
the show.
Brett's great guy.

(31:19):
I'm just busting his chops.
Yep.
Yes, I do believe in moon phase.
I actually purchased the.
I think his name is AdamHaynes iii.
I used to use the wheel andthat damn thing was pretty accurate.
And I had, I, I wanted to callon that, but I can't.

(31:41):
I've told you, Frank.
Yep.
I think back since, I don'tknow, September maybe.
August.
September.
I told you we got a couplemoons to get through on that third
one.
Yeah.
Rising in the evening.
We will kill deer.
That's when they're going tostart going nuts.

(32:01):
Something's a little off kilter.
I think it's a little earlythis year, the way they're.
They're moving.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I. I want to say certain areas.
Let's say certain areas.
Last year during Veterans day,they were on full tilt.
I mean, they were just chasingdeer every.
I mean, they were going crazyliterally everywhere.

(32:24):
You know, it's.
It's there.
It's.
It's a little early, but it's there.
I. I think in some parts ofthe United States, we're a little
bit early.
What's he bitching about now?
I believe that of moon, no clouds.
There won't be any movement,if any.
Yep.
Of course, I don't know somuch if it's the moon.

(32:45):
I know over the years, and thesquatch is crazy.
I've done some stupid crapwhen I was growing up, but I used
to not go out with anyweapons, Nothing.
And I was maybe 17, 18 years old.
And I would get in my treestand a full moon night.
Then I was hoping I'd see a squatch.

(33:07):
Well, I learned how much bucksactually mate with their dough at
night.
And I've sat in the woods,I've had them drun their asses off,
crashing in the st.
I. I don't know how they live.
I really don't know how.
I mean, they're like StevieWonder trying to find a light switch
in the middle of the night.

(33:28):
Yeah, right.
You know, it's just like, wow.
I.
They're hitting everything.
They're running into everything.
They' grunting their asses off.
And I'm like, how do thesethings do themselves?
How do they still have eyes intheir head?
I. I don't, but.
So back to the full moon thing.
Before I get way off on a tangent.
Yes.
When there's a full moon, no clouds.

(33:49):
It's kind of like hunting deer.
On a cloudy day, you're goingto have more movement than a bright
sunny day.
Okay.
Because they're nocturnal animals.
But I believe it actuallyhelps them get around faster.
Let's just.
Let's just say it's likewalking in a dim lit room.
And you stub your toe whenthey've got more light.

(34:09):
They're not stubborn.
Their toes.
They're finding out where theygotta go.
Yep.
The shorter days leading up tothat full moon really get them going.
It's the.
It's the dwindling of daylight.
The shorter days, fires theirhormones up.
And it also has to do withyour dough.
If you listen to our goodbuddy reaper.

(34:30):
Yep.
The 70 rule.
That's Brandon Barlow.
The man is a genius.
What he's up to learn.
I inspire you guys to checkhim out.
I really like to see peoplesee what he's got out there.
He's got an app too for his stuff.
And, you know, judging yourdoes when they drop their fawns,

(34:51):
you'll know when those doescome back in the heat the next year.
And yeah, they've been on firearound here.
Yeah, it's really.
We're.
I think we're going to have astrong rut during rifle season too.
I think.
I think a lot of our firstlittle hottie does that are the slut
of the woods, I call them.
They're.
They're getting ready now.

(35:12):
And then you got the ones thatare more reserved and hey, here,
I think.
I think rifle's going to bepretty good.
You know, we'll have to see.
A lot can change if we keepgetting the cold weather, the cold,
the clear nights, the full moon.
They're breeding, man.
They're pushing our bignocturnal guys.
I see them.

(35:32):
They're coming where the doe are.
So something's got to happen.
The other morning, I passed upa six pointer.
He was so confused, dude.
He.
And he just.
He's just bird dog in the ground.
And I was like, yeah, she.
She went over there if you want.
To go find her.
He's like, okay, you know,maybe this way.
This guy's gonna be a.

(35:52):
An 8 or a 10 someday.
I hope he makes it because heain't got much going for him.
You know, he's kind of likethe D to D of the woods.
I'm like, look at this guy.
He's just lost.
He's full of hormones, you know?
Yep.
Brings back the days when Iused to wander in the bars looking
for that special, you know, somebody.

(36:14):
This is a PG show.
We can't go there.
Yeah, man.
You let me do that for Frank.
Maybe.
Nick, I was just gonna let yougo, brother, but I'm hoping to get
up there.
Hopefully we can get a riflehunt together.
Yeah, you.
Hopefully I'll get up there.
I told you, I'm not picking upthe phone saying, frank, would you
like to come?
You just go watch.
I'm coming.
Yep, that's it.

(36:36):
But always a spot.
Any of my woods.
You know that.
No, I know.
Said, you know, you don't haveto have an invitation.
You just come up.
No, I appreciate, brother.
I'm planning on it.
If you shoot one of my target bucks.
I probably will.
You know, I'll probably have afew choice words for you, but I'll
be Happy for.
At the same time, I'll missthem for you on purpose.

(36:57):
Make sure.
I didn't like that.
No, I know you're not.
So what do you got going on?
I know you.
You got your eye on.
On something over there, I think.
Yeah, so I got a. I got a couple.
There's probably about two orthree shooters, different shooters
that I'm after, But they comethrough very sporadically when they

(37:21):
want to.
So, yeah, you know, I'm justkind of hoping that within, you know,
this week, Because I got acouple days off next week from work,
too, to hunt, and I'llprobably be out all this week.
And I'm hoping that they makemistakes somewhere in between then.
Yeah, I hope so, becauseactually I went out on.

(37:42):
On my birthday, which wasactually Sunday.
Turned 40.
You guys turned 40.
I'm getting old, bro.
Look, he's getting old.
Yeah, I know.
Also have a gofundme for awalker with the tennis balls on the
legs.
It's like.

(38:03):
So, yes, please, anybody thatcan donate.
But yeah, they.
I basically.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
Oh, you got it.
I took it off.
Black silhouette deer in yourbackground, and now I see it up by
the other deer.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's over.
Sorry.
I didn't mean to screw you up.

(38:23):
No, no, you're good.
No worries, brother.
Yeah, so I went out on mybirthday, had good action.
I had a very decent eightpointer come, which I was very, very
tempted on shooting.
I told you that, Squatch.
I was like, I've never shot abirthday buck before.
And here he is at 15 yards.

(38:45):
I have them dead to rights.
Like, what do I do?
You know?
So I was contemplating ontaking the shot.
I'll be honest with everybody.
Yeah.
But I was like, nah, man.
Like you, you know, you stillgot days off next week.
Like, you know, those big onesare in here playing.
Like, just hold out enough.

(39:05):
Like, at least one more weekbefore you make, like, a drastic
decision like that, you know, so.
But I mean, yeah, I've been.
I've been on.
I've been on deer.
It's not like I haven't beenon them.
It's just I haven't found theone that I'm after just yet.
I know.
No, I know.
Well, I think with all theratification, I think is the new

(39:29):
word we're using.
Yes, sir.
Well, but the ratificationgoing on, you know, you get new guys
coming into your property.
Yep.
And you've got a good spot.
And I think.
I think that's bound to happen soon.
Yeah.
I think So I think you'regonna be like, surprised.
Is oil get out?
When you just sit there,you're like, where the hell did he

(39:50):
come from?
Yeah, literally.
I mean, I've.
I had bucks, actually, twodifferent bucks on camera today that
I've never seen before.
Okay.
Cruising at, around.
I think it was like.
One was like 9:45.
The other one was like aroundlike a little after 11.
Okay.
Just cruising, you know.
Yep.
But I mean, that was a goodsign too.
It was nothing, you know, theyweren't nothing spectacular, but

(40:13):
I've never seen them before.
So I was like, well, there's agood sign, you know, like we're on
them.
We're just, you know, we'rejust patiently waiting and.
Yeah, you know, we'll just,we'll see what happens within here
within the next like week or so.
If I can get one on the ground.
I hope so.
Okay.
But you know, another.
Another thing I wanted tobring up, Squatch.

(40:33):
I know that we were talkingabout it these freaking lighted knocks
that I've been having problems with.
You know, you must have readmy mind because I was like, I'm trying
to think of something of asegue to get into that next.
Because I was like, I wonderif he wants to talk about that.
Yeah, I sure as hell dobecause they've been driving me absolutely
friggin nuts.
Sure, sure.

(40:54):
So.
So what's been going on, guys?
To give you a little bit of background.
Yep.
Frank and I have noticed withthe last couple of things he shot,
you know, stuff I've shot last year.
If you guys are runninglighted knocks now we're running
the warhead on, off switch.
Lighted knocks.
I love them.
They're great.
You can turn them on and off.

(41:15):
They're bright as hell.
Really bright last night.
I mean, you seen the freakingthings glowing in the ground.
I'm like, well, it worked.
It looked like a freakingtracer round going towards the deer.
But my buck jumped, you know,and Frank's had stuff.
And we're wondering, have youguys paid enough attention when you
shot, do you think in a deer'speripheral vision or a bear's peripheral

(41:38):
vision, when an arrow iscoming at them, they react, they
duck to seeing that light.
Not that they know what'sgoing on.
They didn't go to school andgo, oh, that's a lighted knock on
an arrow.
Yeah.
I mean, they just seesomething that's a flash and it makes
them duck.
Yep.
And you know, I gotta behonest with you.
And it's nothing against likethe Quality of a product, but maybe

(42:03):
make them a little duller.
Or maybe take a black magicmarker to the clear on it and dole
them out a little bit.
I think we might be ontosomething, man.
I. I think.
I think they see them.
I. I agree.
Them years ago.
Okay.
Yep.
Gerard, did you find out.

(42:24):
You think they were flinchingbecause they seen that flinching
flash of light coming towards him?
Yeah.
Because you've seen.
You even seen Squatch that they.
I've been sending you everyfreaking video that of every animal
I shot.
And, like, you seen the lastone drop, what, at least 8 inches,
maybe even more.
That deer dropped a lot.

(42:45):
Or the bear a lot.
Yep.
And.
Believes they do see it.
Yeah, I do.
I believe so, too.
I believe so, too.
Because, like.
Like, me and you were sayingSquatch, like, they.
If it was one time.
Okay, maybe the deer islooking at you or whatever.
Right.
But it's been so repetitivefor me this year.

(43:07):
And I've seen other people aresending me videos, too, of the.
Of they're using Layton Knoxdeer doing the same thing.
Okay.
So might be something to look into.
You know, I mean, you knowwhat would be great?
And it probably kind of makessomebody a lot of money here.
But if you could shoot alighted knock that wouldn't go on

(43:30):
until impact.
Yep.
After it's passed through the deer.
So you could see where it islaying on the ground now, that would
be pretty cool.
He said he had a buck at 50and it didn't drop.
Okay.
Y.
Okay.
Yeah, we've seen him.
I've seen him duck.
String sound.
Yeah.
Like Justin's saying, I've,you know, seen them duck.
I mean, their hearing's phenomenal.

(43:52):
They can probably hear, youknow, freaking a tera mite.
Freaking fart.
Yeah.
Miles away.
You know, especially whenthey're on edge, you know, so if
they know something's up or whatever.
Tv, wonder book.
But I don't know.
Maybe it's a.
Maybe it's.
You know, what the hell?
What's.
We should do, like, a.

(44:14):
One of those questionnairethings on, like, Instagram.
You think you're, like,spooked here?
Nope.
So at first, I mean, if youasked me last year, I'd probably
be like, I would have beenlike, no.
But you were running adifferent knock last year.
Yep.
Yep.
They were a little duller.
A little dollar.
Yeah, I was here.
I'm like, I was too.
I'm like, wow.

(44:34):
It's like every single time Ifreaking take a shot and you've seen.
I'm Like, I keep aiming lowerand lower, and I'm like, what is
going on?
Like, but that's one thing.
Last night, man, the stuffthat happened to you and some other
people.
Yep.
I told myself, I was like,dude, you better aim low.

(44:54):
And, I mean, I'm glad I did,because if I didn't, I would have
shot right over him.
Yeah.
And I'm glad.
I mean, I'm not glad, but atleast it happened to me.
So I can help you.
Yeah.
You were the sacrificial Frank Lamb.
Yeah, it's the almighty Frank.
Thank you.
That's it.
You know, I was like, don'tworry about it.
I'll be your test dummy.
No, but I mean, you know what?

(45:15):
It's food for thought, becauseyou learn people's mistakes.
You learn from stuff that's happened.
Yeah.
You know, not.
Not like, it's not like you're inexperienced.
I mean, Jesus, you know whatyou're doing?
You've killed a lot of bucks.
But, I mean, to see.
I mean, that stuff that rollsin the back of my mind, I'm like,
you know what?
I gotta make sure, because Idon't want to have an issue me.

(45:36):
Aim a little lower, know?
And he ducked it.
He ducked it, man.
But that bow.
That bow's fast.
Oh, yeah.
You know, you sent me the video.
I was like, I had to keep,like, slowing it down.
I was like, hold on.
The arrow hit him already.
Keep going back, I think looklike a freaking trace around it,
but it was funny.

(45:58):
A kid, a kid that grew up inthe archery shops when I was running
the archery shops years andyears ago.
I say, years ago, 30 years ago.
I just ran into him when I wasvoting down in town, and I'm like,
hey, what's going on?
He's like, I said, I just gotan eight pointer today.
He said, oh, no kidding, man.
Did you get a new bow?
I'm like, no, I'm shooting a Z3.

(46:18):
Matthews, are you kidding me?
You're still shooting a C3?
Yeah, man.
Justin says, have we everwatched a ranch fairy?
Oh, my God.
Is this a porn thing or something?
Yeah, that's.
That's why I put it up.
I. I assume.
I don't know what a ranch fairy.
I don't know what a ranchfairy is.
I, I, I think Brett might beclose to being a ranch fairy.

(46:40):
You guys ever not?
He's, like, right there.
He's pretty.
He might be like a ranch pixie.
Yeah, I. I think I have.
Yeah.
Now that I think about it,Justin They.
I think they were on the public.
The hunting public guys.
I think they were with him onan episode or two.
Now that I remember.
He's a guy that does thebroadhead something or another test

(47:04):
or he made a broadhead, I believe.
I. I think I have heard of him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've never heard of him.
I'll be honest with you.
Okay.
Yeah, well, he's a. I.
The public hunting guys got onhis ranch or something.
I remember seeing an episodenow back a while back, I think.
I think he makes broadheads, Idon't know.
Or arrows.
He's arrows and broadheads.
I don't know.
He's something like that.
Mr. Ranch Fairy.

(47:25):
Change your name.
It sounds gay.
I'm just gonna freaking honestwith you.
But if you've got good infoabout deer hunting and stuff like
that, I'm all for you, bro.
I'm just busting on you anyway.
Yeah, it's all good.
Does a lot of testing.
Okay, good to know.
I'll check it out.
Check it out.
But yeah, man, so, you know,it's, it's.

(47:46):
It's food for thought.
I mean, you know, keep that inthe back of your mind when you're
using a lighted knock.
Maybe, maybe it's spookingthem, maybe it ain't know.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Think.
Should I aim a little low?
A little low, you know?
Yeah.
Another good topic I wanted tobring up since we're on this conversation
of aiming low and shootinghigh and everything.
Yeah, yeah.

(48:07):
We had an issue.
We did my bow.
Oh, that's right.
I forgot all.
And I really couldn't figureit out.
I'm like, what the hell'sgoing on?
Like, I realized after hittingthese deer high and we were talking
about, you know, the knocksand everything, right?
I'm like, well, I'm shootinggood off the floor.

(48:29):
I kept telling you that, right?
Like, I'm like, dead on.
I'm like, but I don't knowwhat's going on.
I was like, so I'm gonna climbthe saddle.
I got around like 15, 16ft,started shooting.
Yep.
Notice I'm hitting way higherthan I am on the floor.
Like, way higher.

(48:49):
I even sent you the picturesand was like, dude, what the hell?
Like, what do I do?
Like, should I move the siteand squat?
You could.
You could kind of go fromthere and telling them how you figured
all this stuff out about myboat since you're like the bow guru,
my personal technician, everybody.

(49:10):
My personal bow technician isSquatch, by the way.
Look, guys, guys.
He makes me like this super hero.
I'm not a superhero.
I'm Squatch.
He's my superhero, though,because let me tell you, he saved
my ass again.
Wait till you hear this one.
So Frankie, of course, is likemy little brother, right?
So he's like, I don't know.

(49:31):
You're right.
I'm shooting high up in the air.
I'm like, I told you, man.
Something's off.
So, Frank, you run a trueglow, like, holographic dot kind
of thing?
I don't know.
I.
Guys, look, it's like theRange Rover.
I. Yeah, Range Rovers.
I don't even like the car.
But anyway, okay.
I saw it.
I'm like, yeah, all right.

(49:51):
That's.
That's okay.
If you like using it, use it.
I said, look, man, check your site.
Something.
Maybe with that dot, maybehe's throwing your eye off.
I don't know.
And he's like, you're right, though.
I'm shooting high.
I said, do me a favor.
He said, yeah.
I said, is your peep site served?

(50:12):
Yeah.
I said, take your hand and seeif you can move that peep site in
that string.
Ah.
He says, I said, what?
I just moved it.
It's moving.
I'm like, really, dude?
Now you tell me in the middleof bow season?
Your freaking peep site is loose.
It's moving in your strength.
Oh, yeah.

(50:32):
Is that bad?
I said, that freaking thing isyour, like, your knock point.
Once you have that peep tiedin, that is your, like, kisser button.
That is your all in all.
That should never, ever, evermove one inch in your string.
I don't care.
Learn how to tie a peepwhoever the bow shop you went to.

(50:55):
Guys, you suck.
I'm not going to mention your name.
Learn how to tie a peep in.
Yep.
So he came.
Look, that's what we saved thewhitetail advantage for anything
but hunting.
Brett.
Yeah, Ginger.
Don't get my dander up.
Anyway, he's in a good show.

(51:17):
This is a hunting show.
So Frank goes, well, what am Igoing to do?
I said, well, I can tell youhow to take.
Do you have any serving material?
No.
Okay.
You're gonna have to bring thebow to me.
I know you got deer you wantto kill.
Yeah.
I want you to be successful.
I'm an hour away.
You want to come over?
Ring the bow.
I'm coming.
Okay, that's done.

(51:38):
I said, I got pasta and sauce on.
Come and eat too.
You don't gotta cook.
I gotta eat.
You're gonna eat?
Yep.
Long story short, I Bring it over.
I tear everything off thathe's got on there.
I reserved a peep in.
We're not done, guys.
We're not done.
So Frank likes to pull on youeven double time.

(52:00):
Okay.
Yeah.
As I get done tying his peepin, I look at the sorry ass excuse
for a D loop of like, it lookslike shoestring.
And I'm like, it's all frayedto shit.
And I'm like, dude, really?
You want this thing to break now?
Next, when you're drawing backon a buck and punch yourself in the
teeth.

(52:22):
Well, it's not that old, Squatch.
I know they didn't use the right.
It's wrong.
Yeah.
What did you go to, like theHelen Keller bow school of like,
retardation?
I won't say their name, but Iliterally got the.
The bow restrung last year.
Yeah, yeah.
So off the D loop comes.

(52:43):
We're not having that onanybody I know is bowed.
It's not gonna fly.
And you forgot how short itwas too.
That you brought to my attention.
And if you guys know aboutstring, pinch.
The knots that you have foryour D loop should not in cringe
or pinch your knock.
It's better to have a littlebit of slop in there than to have

(53:04):
it actually torque on it andlift your arrow up Y.
After my patience meter grewthin, I fixed that next.
Yep.
Now it's like 7:30 out andit's dark.
And I said, well, we are goingout to the target.
I will turn the back porchlight on and I will stand behind

(53:26):
you with a spotlight.
Shoot that freaking target.
Okay.
Whack.
Oh, okay, you're there.
Yeah.
I said, yeah, a little finetuning tomorrow, but feels good.
Yeah.
Okay.
Have a good night.
So Frank went on home.
He called me the next day and.
Yeah, well, you know, the peepsite's not bad.

(53:47):
It's just twisting a little bit.
I said, that's because weretied your D loop.
This and that.
I said, look, do yourself a favor.
Put it like a quarter, a half,almost, maybe a full twist in each
limb.
It'll stop the stretch.
It'll straighten the peep out.
You can also move your D loopa little bit to help your anchor
point.
Yeah, okay, no problem.
I mean, I'm not shooting bad.

(54:08):
I said, okay, good, good.
Get it fine tuned.
Call me back.
I'm here doing stuff, so I'mnot going away.
All right.
Okay.
So you get the phone call thatyou love to hear, and he says, I
gotta thank you.
I can't thank you enough youtook the time to help me out.
I haven't ever shot this bowthis good.

(54:29):
You're the best.
And I just said, look, man, no problem.
I'm glad I could help.
I said, is the bow comfortablefor you?
Yeah.
I said, does your anchor pointfeel better?
I said, that's because the Dloop is the right length.
It's not pinching.
You know, you gotta just takethe time sometimes to figure things
out.
These places, I get it, They're.

(54:50):
They're pumping bows out leftand right.
But, guys, you ruin people ifyou don't follow the details.
You don't pay attention to the details.
You can ruin somebody becausethey become unreliable on their equipment.
And that plays head games whenyou're drawing back on that trophy

(55:11):
buck you're trying to kill orthat big bear, and it hurts people.
It ruins people.
I mean, Frank was seriously,like, I don't know what I'm doing
wrong.
I knew he was a good shooter.
I knew he's consistent bywhere the arrow placement was every
time.
Okay?
So, you know, it's.

(55:33):
It's one of those things.
I slowed down.
I thought about what was goingon, and we adjusted it, and he.
He's there and he's shootingmoney right now.
You know, he's shooting money.
He's shooting good.
Yep.
Definitely got my confidence back.
That's for sure.
Because I was losing it, andyou knew that.
Mike.

(55:53):
What the hell is he saying?
Frank?
Expect a phone call from meafter this.
Need hear more about bow issues.
Ye.
Anyway.
Anyway, you don't even want toget me started on this.
So like I said, you know, I'mno pro.
I. I've just been around bowsa long, long time.

(56:16):
I used to set stuff up all the time.
Bows really haven't changedthat much.
It's still.
Same principle, same kind of stuff.
Just, you take your time, payattention to the details.
But, God, if your peep sitemoves, find a reputable guy to tie
it or watch a video or do something.
Don't have that going on, you know?

(56:37):
Yep.
Because I didn't even noticeit was even moving until you mentioned
something when I.
When I started actuallylooking at it.
And then you're like, just now.
You're like, now, go.
Go easy.
Just move a little bit withyour finger.
I was like, you literallyheard me on the phone.
I'm like, oh, it moved.
I mean, like.

(56:58):
And, you know, I gotta sitthere and dissect this over the phone
and all this, you know, like,you know, when you have a Troubleshooting
guide.
And it says, well, ifsomething does this, go to this next
step.
That's what goes on in myhead, okay?
And I'm going, okay.
It's not the site.
What the hell's moving?
Oh, the peep.
Go to the peep.

(57:18):
Does your peep move?
Yeah.
Oh, great.
That's just what we need.
Yep.
This idiot.
Oh, my God.
You're a crossbow guy.
When did you come out of thecloset, Justin?
Wow.
Wow, this is getting bad now here.
Yeah, it is.
This is so much for pg, bro.

(57:39):
This is like Brett starting tobeat a real poop slinger show here.
He's starting to remind me ofMichael a little bit.
Wow.
Listen, you know, nothingagainst crossbow guy.
I. I actually, you know, I'm throwing.
Throwing it around a little bit.
I might rifle season.
I might take the crossbow out.

(57:59):
I might take it out.
It'll be different.
Well, I don't really want toshoot a gun that's kind of close
to the houses either, so.
Yeah.
Might have to use especiallythat cannon.
Oh, that.
Well, we're rolling somethingover with the old 4570 this year.
That's it.
But no, brother, like I said,you know, it's.

(58:20):
It's.
I feel like I got a purpose,you know, and.
And, you know, at the time, Iwas learning the stuff that I learned,
and I'm like, yeah, well, it'sgood for me.
I'll probably never use it foranything else but that.
But then people are calling onyou and saying, hey, what's going
on?
You know, I got this going on,or can you help me this?
And I set up some people'sbows this year, and people are happy.

(58:44):
They're having a good timewith it.
Yeah, I try to educate, youknow, I just try to tell people,
this is what you got to look for.
This is what happens.
It's your main thing.
Because once you start losingthat confidence in it, too, like,
oh, yeah, I was.
You seen me.
I was in my head.
I literally told you.
I was like, the next time I'mthrowing this thing off the tree
stand, I swear to God, youwere like, no, no, don't do that.

(59:08):
High tree.
Yeah.
You're like, let me look at it first.
Don't do that.
Now you'll be pulling theWilly Wonka.
You know, it's like, yeah.
Then goes sliding through the room.
But nah.
Hey, man, I'm just glad Icould help you, bro.
By no means.
I'm no professional.
I just know what I know.
Been very gifted to.
To have the Talent that I doto be able to work on things in my

(59:30):
life and fix things the way I can.
Then I pass it along and I,you know, I try to keep people in
the loop.
You know, I tell people andeverybody here, you guys know on
the show, my friends,everybody that follows us, whatever.
If you want to know, just ask.
You know, if I don't know theanswer, I'll get you the answer.
I'll figure it out for you.
Yep.

(59:51):
But, you know, it's cool, man.
It's.
It's November.
It's, you know, shaped up tobe a good time.
I'm, I'm happy.
I got a buck on the groundeven before, I mean, last year came
down to the wire, man, I wasthe last day of the season.
I shot a buck.
Yep.
And I don't like it, man.
I'm proud of you, man.
That's awesome.
Thanks, brother.

(01:00:11):
I'm, I, you know, I'm alwaysproud of you, too.
You, you.
Well, I know you get on, youget on these bears, you get on these
deer.
I mean, never.
I'm always, like, looking forthe next chapter, what we're gonna
have with the Frank and Squatch.
Turmoil of the deer woods or never.
Dull moment, that's for sure.
We keep it interesting whatfreaking adventure we're gonna have.

(01:00:34):
Now, I want to make a point,which is so damn funny because you
have New Jersey isms.
People hear you talk andthey're like, you can tell Frank's
from Jersey.
Yep.
I think if we rewind thescript back here a little bit.
You said I shot from the floor.
Y.
Which, which you mean the ground.
The ground.
Yeah, but people from Jerseysay the floor.

(01:00:55):
I, I was on the floor.
Even if it's outside, it'sstill the floor.
Listen, I realized that afterI said I was hoping you weren't going
to catch it.
What don't I miss?
There ain't much I don't miss.
I was like, oh, he ain't gonnacatch it.
I'm silently cracking up in myhead as you said it.
I'm like, the floor.
Really?
Yeah.
You know, and these two utesthat got away, the two youth, my

(01:01:21):
cousin Vinnie, Frank.
That's it.
Listen, that's how we getalong, brother.
But, man, we're back onmagical hour, man.
You wanna, you got anything,Last words or.
Because you.
I know you want to end us witha prayer again.
I, I, I think I'm squatched out.
I'm, I'm pretty tired.

(01:01:42):
Yeah.
I just want to take a second,though, again.
You Know you guys, the fans ofthe show, the fans of the Squatch
and the Franks and Boondocksis in the.
In the whitetail advantageguys and whoever else we're involved
with, man.
You know, Shameless plugs.
I don't care, man.
Rack getter.
Once again, Gerard, you watchthe show.

(01:02:03):
We're grateful to have you on.
Grateful for the stuff you produce.
Warhead Arrow company.
Thank you for makingbulletproof arrows.
You know, wreck.
Good job with the broadheads.
Matthews, bows, if you're listening.
Yeah, I'll take a sponsorship anytime.
Oh, me too.
Me too.
I shoot one, by the way.
Bows, man.
That C3 has never let me down.

(01:02:24):
That's a good freaking bow, man.
And if anybody else out there.
I'm forgetting all my brothersand sisters that support me, support
our shows.
Yeah, I. I love you all, man.
Thanks for.
Thanks for the support.
Most important, the bigcreator upstairs.
Dude, What a guy.
What a guy.
He likes making me into thevoodoo doll.

(01:02:47):
But he teaches me a lot whenI'm down on my luck and, you know,
it's hard.
Lessons learned, and you have to.
Have to do this, man.
You know, it's.
It's.
It's one of them things.
We gotta walk that walk, and,you know, we're all going through
it.
I hope everybody has anawesome, successful season, safe
season, and that's it, man.

(01:03:08):
That's all I got.
I don't know if you.
Yeah.
You want to add anything?
No, I mean, you.
You said it perfect, man.
Good luck to everybody, and weappreciate all you guys.
Much love to everybody for thesupport and everything, and have
a great season.
We'll see what happens comingup here in the next few weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's gonna be fun, man.

(01:03:29):
Gonna be fun.
It's gonna be fun.
All right, well, I guess I'llclose this out with our.
Our ending prayer.
You know, I hope everybody,you know, is cool with that, man.
And if you ain't, well, thenmaybe you got to find another show,
I guess, but.
Yep.
Let's pray.
Father God, man, you're anawesome God.

(01:03:50):
You know, you bring ustogether as a community, Lord, and,
you know, you make us allfriends and.
And bodies, and we supporteach other, Lord.
And I think that's your main concern.
You know, it's not about thetrophies that we take home.
It's the stories along the way.
It's what we do.
And we're so grateful, Lord.
We just thank you for each andevery day.

(01:04:11):
You put the breath in theseold lungs, and I guess I just couldn't
be more grateful and gratefulfor everybody here.
And as always, I'm going toclose this out with shoot straight.
God bless you.
The Franken Squatch show.
We're out of here.
We're out.
Good night, guys.

(01:04:31):
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