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March 18, 2025 49 mins

Best friends and entrepreneurs Wesley Turner and Steven Merck take on life's awkward moments day (March 18th) with brutal honesty and laugh-out-loud humor. Their genuine friendship shines through as they share embarrassing stories that most people would take to their graves.

The conversation begins with a discovery of bizarre "national days" – from National Toilet Paper Day to National Awkward Moments Day – which perfectly sets up their storytelling session. Steven recounts what might be his most mortifying experience: the time he quite literally couldn't hold it while driving to an important business meeting, resulting in a desperate hotel check-in just to shower and change. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm here.
It's time.
Welcome to who's Driving.
I'm Wesley Turner.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
And I'm Stephen Merck .
We're two best friends andentrepreneurs.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Who's Driving is an entertaining look into the
behind the scenes of our lives,friendship and business.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
These are the stories we share and topics we discuss,
as two best friends would on along road trip.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer
a wide range of informativetopics centered around running
small businesses, social mediaand all things home and garden.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
You never know who's driving,or?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
where we're headed.
All we know is it's always afun ride.
Bring Blue in last night.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, it really did like um.
Well, yesterday and it was sofunny I had dylan drove the
mercedes on um what is today, onfriday, yeah, and I said do not

(00:57):
let the top down on the car,because I just can tell the
pollen is getting ready to pourin.
He thought I was crazy andyesterday it was like poof.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Well, yeah, and the storms that rolled through.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, well, it washed it away, but the pollen was
like everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, did you wake up ?
Could you hear the storms lastnight?
I?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
heard nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
You have that thick brick wall.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
24 inches, that's a lot of brick.
Yeah, I didn't hear anythingand I had taken my CBD gummy.
Yeah, the best.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
So yeah, did you hear it?
I did, I did twice.
Daniel didn't hear anything andhe's the weather person.
Daniel tells me the weathermore than the weatherman.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Oh, I need my doodle pad.
And I can't do this without it.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
And he tells me like, oh, the storms are going to
rock.
I wouldn't know anything, Idon't ever look at the weather
but he tells me because you knowhe's in tune with the farming
and he's like it's going to comein overnight.
Well, I don't, you know, Ididn't think anything about it
and then bam, it was one bigbolt that hit somewhere.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
From like two to five .
They said it was going to bereally bad.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
And then one other time I heard it, but I got up in
the middle of it and justlooked out the window and it was
the storm and it was fine.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, yesterday we did gather the chairs around the
pool, and it's fine.
Well, yesterday we did gatherthe um chairs around the pool
and flipped them over, and youknow, just cause I was like I
don't, I don't want everythingyou know tossed in the pool,
break the pool coat.
You know, I just know how.
If you don't do it, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, so I was sitting here.
Those who yeah, so I wassitting here.
Those who are just listeningcan't see me, but I was like
looking around real quick and Iwas like where's my phone?
It's recording us, so I'mlosing my mind.
Yeah, you had to prepare, butthe reason why I was looking for
my phone, I meant to look it up.
But a few episodes back wetalked about every day.
There's something every day now, like a National Balloon Day,

(03:06):
national, whatever day.
Oh, yeah, there's all thesedays.
We want our own day, by the way.
Yeah, national Pain in the Ass.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Day.
Is there a National ToiletPaper Day, I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
So that's what I was going to Google something.
But I saw and I didn't Googleit to confirm, but I believe it
because it was from a vendorit's National Sauce Month and I
feel like that is Daniel'selement.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
And I just made a joke that there's national days
for everything.
And I said National ToiletPaper Day.
Yeah, yeah, it's August 26th,that's a real thing.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
We need to put that in our calendar.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
What in the hell?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, I think we need to get a calendar with all the
national days the NationalToilet Paper Day and we need to
talk about them each week in ourpodcast so we know what's
coming up.
That week, Like this week, wecan celebrate National Cupcake
Day on whatever day that is,let's see what is coming up.

(04:13):
Yeah, so give us a rundown ofmaybe what's coming up this week
, because that would be good toknow.
We need to know what days we'remissing out on.
You know, I find out about themusually when it's too late and
it's like certain ones will popup and be big, like National
Daughters Day or National SonsDay.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Okay, we are tomorrow where the 16th we're recording
today is the 16th.
And today is National Panda Day.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
National Panda Day.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Tomorrow is the 17th.
That's obviously St Paddy's Day.
Can't share that with anything.
March 20th, hey, I wonder ifthis is all of them.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
You know there's got to be a whole.
There's something every day.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
National.
What should I Google?

Speaker 1 (05:06):
National Days in March, yeah, I know there's got
to be a holiday, there'ssomething every day National.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
What should I Google?
National days in March.
Yeah, I think there's acalendar.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, because I had looked it up National holiday,
and let's not forget that March21st this coming.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Friday.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's a national holiday.
That is National steven'sbirthday, that's right.
Steven's birthday's coming upthis week, that's right,
followed by my birthday is march30th.
What day is my birthday on?
I don't I.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Thursday or a Sunday.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
A Sunday Mine's on Sunday, okay, okay.
Well, I won't be doing anything.
We'll do a live sale on mybirthday.
I'm going to be 44 and you'regoing to be 52.
Two 52.
Coming right up.
Yeah, we got to find out.

(06:04):
All the national days.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Okay, tuesday, the 18th, is Awkward Moments Day.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Awkward Moments.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
So what do you?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
do Post your most awkward moment.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
I don't know.
Let me click on that and seeAwkward Moments Day.
Yes, there's a whole daydedicated to embarrassing your
awkward moments in life.
National Awkward Day MomentsMarch 18th every year.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Hmm, have you had an?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Oh, I do that every day.
It's National Awkward Day forme.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
What is your most awkward or embarrassing thing
that's happened?
We have one that I still youwon't let me tell.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Oh, my gosh One day we're going to tell Wednesday is
a good one.
I love Wednesdays, nationallet's laugh day.
National let's laugh day.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, you can laugh on Tuesday.
Maybe you're listening to thison Wednesday, maybe we can give
you a few laughs.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Thursday is the international Day of Happiness.
I like that too, I do too.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
See, we need a calendar.
We need a full calendar,because I know something every
day.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So Friday has a lot of national days.
National Fragrance Day that'sgood for my birthday, I love
smelly goods.
National Flower Day.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Oh, that's good for our stores.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
World Poetry Day.
We don't care about poetry wedon't read.
Hickory, dickory Dock.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
No, I'm kidding, I'm not going to finish that.
Where are we going with that?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
This is a good one.
World Down Syndrome Day that'sa good one.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
That's a good awareness day.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
International Day of Forest.
That's a good.
21st is also National CommonCourtesy Day.
I like that.
We all need a little morecommon courtesy.
It's also National French BreadDay.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Oh good, I'll bake some bread.
World Puppetry Day Okay, that'sgetting a little niche.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
World Water Day.
I don't even know what the hellthat is.
Water Day, no, no, no, no, no,that's the 22nd, and Saturday,
the 22nd, is national goof offday well, I think I'll be
observing that sunday, the 23rdis national puppy day.
Puppy, we all need a puppy.

(08:39):
Let's pet a puppy.
Monday, the 24th is NationalCocktail Day.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Oh, thought we were going somewhere different there.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, but it's crazy how many days.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, let's get back to awkward day, awkwardness,
mm-hmm.
Do you have a really awkwardmoment?
See, the thing is, whensomething awkward has happened
to you or embarrassing someoneelse kind of has to know about
it.
To pull it out of you.
You kind of it gets deleted inyour brain, block it out, like

(09:13):
it really needs me to say.
Do you remember?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think one of the biggest, most awkward,
embarrassing, crazy days waswhen and I think we've told it
on here, I'm sure you have,because you love to tell this
story is when I had gotten a newcar.
I'd gotten a new Mercedes, butI didn't drive it, often in the

(09:44):
car Didn't update and where Iwas going for a I was going to a
meeting when you shit yourself.
Yeah, I was going, we told that, we that was probably the most
awkward, because how do youcheck into the hotel when you
shit?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
yourself.
Yeah, that's funny that if youmiss that, that was we told that
one along.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
It was horrible.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
I pulled that one out .
So Steven was going to aMcDonald's meeting for like a
regional meeting, right?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, it was a um.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
it was one of our leadership meetings and his car
hadn't updated and his maps hadhim going in circles and he the
coffee kicked in and he shithimself.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I drank a huge coffee .
I stopped at McDonald's.
I don't even know where Istopped.
I stopped in Blacksburg, SouthCarolina, the loves travel, and
I got the biggest coffee thatMcDonald's had at the time.
I can't remember how manyounces, I want to say 20 ounces.
I drank that whole coffee goingup 85.

(10:48):
And you know, I didn't get thatrumble until I got off of 85.
And you know, and it said 10minutes to the hotel, You're
like I'm fine, that's fine.
I mean I could make it.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Turns out he didn't Spoiler alert.
It was bad.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's a wonder I did not total that car.
I drove into that McDonald'sand I was going because I went
to a McDonald's before I poopedmy pants and I promise you, I
was going 70 miles an hour inthat parking lot and I slung
that car in.
I ran in and that stall waslocked and it just let loose.

(11:31):
I couldn't hold it anymore, wasall she wrote.
God, that was a bad situation.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
That is awkward, because then you had to check
into a hotel just to shower.
Get yourself back together.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
And I was late.
Everybody was texting me and Ifinally said, listen, I just
shit myself, just calm down.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh my gosh, I mean, and I still yeah, that is funny.
Oh my gosh, mine is still, andwe've told this on the podcast
too, I think when it just poppedin my mind.
Awkward moment was when I wasgoing to do the Garden Club talk
.
I told this and I went tosomeone's home a very nice home

(12:18):
and I was carrying a bag of soiland the bottom fell out of it
onto their very nice rug intheir dining room.
And it was a very nice home,very nice.
That was probably one of mymost awkward.
Did I still like get secondhandembarrassment to this day?
You know they don't thinkanything about it, but oh my
gosh.

(12:38):
You know they wanted to kill you, I'm sure, oh, it's okay, I
don't even know who it was.
Now I would have said, oh, it'sokay, I don't even know who it
was.
Now I would have said, oh mygosh, that is too funny.
Speaking of awkward, though,right before we were starting
the podcast, we were just I wassetting up everything and
Steven's like you rememberso-and-so, and I was like, yeah,
that you dated.

(12:59):
And I was like, be careful,they may listen.
No, I'm not going to sayanything about him, except for
he said, oh yeah, he tooted infront of me and that's why I
broke up with him.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
No, I said he farted in front of me.
Okay, but here's the thing.
You know it happens.
It's a bodily fart.
I get it, I get it and I'm notopposed.
Listen, we all fart.
It's a bodily fun.
I get it, I get it and I'm notopposed.
Listen, we all fart.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
It is a fact.
Why do we always end up onstories?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
But there there is a span of time when you're dating
someone that no one farts.
It never happens, it doesn'thappen.
Not only did he fart, hegiggled and I was like done,

(13:56):
that's funny, done Gross.
I mean, if you'll do that earlyon, what will you do two years
in, or five years?
It's just going to eat no.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, no, it's funny because Stephen was in the
dating circuit for quite a while.
Ten years, was it 13 years, 13years so he had his relationship
of 12 years and then it was 13years, and then he settled down
with Dylan.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Dylan, really Dylan does not appreciate how picky
and crazy I am.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
No, he really doesn't .

Speaker 2 (14:36):
He doesn't know what it took to make that cut.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
No, he really doesn't .
He'll never understand.
But that's okay, it's okay, soStephen was in the dating
circuit for quite a while 13years and he dated, I mean.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh, serial, dater, Serial.
I had dates every week.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Oh yeah, going to dinner, I got a date.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Got a date, got a date, got a date.
Hayden, hayden, it's usually adifferent one every week.
Hayden.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
He would break up with people.
I really like him and it wouldbe the funniest little thing
like the farting and he'd belike he's a good person and
everything.
And we talked about you know,touching your car windows or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
It could be feet and it was funny.
We met Dylan and I had dinnerdowntown Greenville last night
and we met friends out at Hall'sChop House and we were talking
and I was laughing about one ofmy dating stories.
Even Dylan died laughing atthis one.

(15:46):
So I dated a guy here inGreenville, a very prominent guy
, a very, very well-establishedguy, and he checked so many
boxes On paper.
On paper he had, you know, hehad the nice Mercedes, beautiful
home, you know, had one ofthose very important jobs at the

(16:11):
hospital and you know, I mean Ithought OK and he dressed.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh my gosh, he dressed so well, just goes to
show you all that doesn't matter, mm, hmm, mm, hmm, because he,
you know, and a nice guy tooDressed so well, just goes to
show you all that doesn't matter.
Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Because he, you know, and a nice guy too, I really
like him.
But he took his clothes off andhe looked so handsome in
clothes.
Yeah, he really did.
And you know, it wasn'thanky-panky or anything, it was
literally going to bed.

(16:46):
It was the first time I stayedthere, there wasn't any of that.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
And took his clothes off.
I don't believe that for asecond, but we'll let you go
with that version of the story.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
He looked like my grandfather standing there, like
my grandfather that had beenlocked in a basement for six
months.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
And so what?
It was?
Just like Just bad Droopy.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Just looked like a little old man.
Yeah, and I mean not to be meanor anything, but it was just my
gut reaction.
I was like, oh my God, I got toget out of here, I have to get
out of here, yeah.
So literally I am gathering mystuff and like, oh my gosh, I

(17:31):
have to go home, Like I all.
Oh, you left.
Yes, I could not stay there onemore second.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I was terrorized.
You didn't want any of thehanky-panky to happen?
Nothing to do with it.
You just left him high and dry.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I was nice.
I mean, I guess I saidsomething like, oh my gosh, I've
got to let the dog out, or dogs, just like all of a sudden.
Yeah, I guess you just got tolet the dog out or dogs like all
of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, I guess I was like did you ever talk to him
after that?
Like friendly yeah yeah, I mean, you didn't like the next day,
just say like this ain't gonnawork, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Thankfully I never, you know I did.
I was like oh my gosh, you know, it was one of those things,
don't let me have surgery andhave to run into him.
Oh yeah, that would have justbeen.
That would have been.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I would have just been like you know, and I wish I
could remember some of theother reasons that you broke up
with people, because Well, Ididn't break up, I just did not
continue.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
You ghosted them.
Another one that I went outwith that I really liked he was.
He had been married and we kindof knew each other when he was
married, if you know what I meanVery, very, very handsome man.
He was another farter.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
That just did it for you Off the list.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
If you're gonna do that, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Just don't.
And then there was the infamouslittle guy.
Hey, little guy.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Oh, that was bad, that was bad.
And remember the guy I left atthe blockhouse having dinner
Because he kept telling me hedidn't know.
I think he thought I was like acashier at McDonald's, which
there's nothing wrong with.
I was a cashier at McDonald's,which there's nothing wrong with
.
I was a cashier at McDonald'sat one time, but he assumed, I

(19:42):
think, because of my age that hewas better than you.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yes, oh, he was trying to impress you.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
He was better and richer, and you, I mean.
He trust me.
This guy thought he was king ofthe hill, he was king of the
pile of shit in my book and Ileft him sitting at the
blockhouse, which is arestaurant.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
So you just left him.
Sure did you said you went tothe bathroom and just got in
your car.
Oh, that is funny.
Do you, listening or watching?
Have any really awkward datingstories you want to share with
us Because we would love to hearthem?
Or just awkward?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
moments.
It doesn't have to be dating.
Maybe you dumped potting soilon someone's $20,000 rug, like
Wesley did 864-982-5029.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Call and leave us a voicemail so we can play it or
text us.
We might call you.
I would love to hear some andif you're watching us, you can
leave it down in the comments.
I would love to hear someawkward moments.
You've had a lot.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
It always happens, you know, and we're leaving for
my birthday's Friday.
We're leaving for Miami at 7seven.
Our flight leaves at 7 30 inthe morning.
That was the latest I could getand not get there at night.
Um, so I'm anxious to see whatwill I mean?
I'm sure I will.
There's no telling what will.

(21:11):
Everything happens to me insomething crazy.
We're having dinner at theVersace mansion.
I'm sure I'll break something,yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
So yeah, so you had told us the last time you're
going to Miami and staying inSouth Beach.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
And you said that he hasn't been in over 25 years.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
I don't remember, because he got food poisoning
the last time he was there.
It was horrible, horrible.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
See, there's another story Awkward, so hopefully this
is the redemption.
I hope so because I think it'sa great city.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
It's a great place.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
But he had another awkward one.
I don't know if it's awkward orjust experience vacationing,
that you have got to move past,and I don't think we've ever
talked about this, but it kindof affects our business.
So Stephen had a bad experiencewith mangoes, and so now,

(22:11):
anytime like if I have somethingthat's mango-scented or has
mango fruit in it he's like no,no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
That was over 25 years ago too, but it was
traumatic.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Tell us your mango To this day.
He will not have anything to dowith anything If it's got the
word mango he ain't doingnothing with it.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Nope, what happened?
So went on a cruise.
I don't remember exactly, WellI do.
We flew into San Juan.
It was a great cruise.
They no longer do this and Idon't know why, but it went from
San Juan to South America, toVenezuela.

(22:56):
It was a great cruise, but forwhatever reason it doesn't exist
anymore.
Someone told me I didn't lookit up.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, you know, they have to change it up.
And there's, you know, like Ithink they just stopped doing
cruises from Charleston there'scontracts and they lose
contracts.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
And change it up Well it was fantastic and you know
me, I have to be very active.
I do not do well just sitting.
So for me to do a cruise there,I had to do every every.
There was a million stops onthis.
Like we stopped, probably 10different islands, yeah, and I

(23:36):
and I had to do stuff.
Oh, he was, um, I would.
I can't sit on a boat.
Yeah, yeah, I had to do stuff.
So um did stuff everywhere.
It all was great.
I loved it.
Um went to the island ofGrenada, which I love, and, just

(23:57):
FYI, like 95, 95 of the spiceswe use in this country come from
grenada oh, and when you got.
Need someone to fact check thatplease, when you got off the
boat you could smell like thecinnamon trees.
It was like amazing.

(24:18):
And it looked.
Getting off the boat, it looked.
It reminded me of the coast ofItaly, the way the homes were
stacked up, the you know, themountain going down to the water
.
It was beautiful.
So I signed us up for thisexcursion, where we were going
on a hike for the day to a— andI have photos.

(24:42):
I need to show you photos ofthis and you did a hike and a
swim in this swimming hole withthese beautiful waterfalls.
It sounds wonderful, doesn't it?
It does, yes, it does.
And lunch was included.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
So you just do a little hike to this gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, not yet.
A hike through a gorgeousrainforest Sounds great doesn't
it?

Speaker 1 (25:10):
You end up at a watering hole, you have lunch,
you splash around.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, first of all, the lunch.
You're going to enjoy this.
The lunch was fish tacos.
I don't eat fish.
I was like, oh hell.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Do you not eat?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
any kind of fish, really Filet of fish at
McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Oh yeah, at McDonald's I'll eat like fish
sticks?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Oh gosh, I don't eat quality fish.
I don't enjoy it.
You don't like salmon?

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Mm-mm, yeah, mm-mm Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I don't, and so that was all fine.
I'm like well, you know when inRome that's my problem.
So I didn't get all bent, Metsome really nice people, but
we're hiking Mm-hmm, and thehike was through a mango orchard
.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
It wasn't an orchard per se, it was a grove.
It was a grove because it wasnatural, it wasn't planted and
it was very wet because you'rein a, you know, a tropical, so
picture.
It's wet, it was very muddy,and then mangoes had fallen off

(26:28):
of the trees and rotted.
And you were just and they wererotten mangoes mashed into this
mud that smelled like horseshit.
So it was mango, horse shit mudand I had to walk, were y'all

(26:52):
on horses or just walking.
Oh no, we were on foot.
Oh yeah, so you're stompingthrough.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
What kind of shoes did you have?
I know you were not preparedfor a hike.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
I know it was bad and thankfully I didn't have any
money back then so therewouldn't have been any major
losses there.
But I was like, oh my God, andI gagged, and I gagged, I get
that, I gagged, I get that.
I will never forget that smell.
And then I was traumatized.

(27:24):
And you know it's all a setup.
I'm sure they were the sweetest, cutest little children.
Their parents would just turnthem loose in the woods and they
had the grossest, nastiestbucket of water and they would
come and try to wash your feetfor a dollar.
Oh my gosh, you know I love.

(27:46):
That broke my heart.
So I gave them like a $20 billand she looked at me like I had
given her like $10,000.
And she just ran away.
I was like honey, you don'thave to wash my feet.
I was thinking I don't want youwashing my feet in that.
Then we get.
So I'm just nasty, disgusted,emotionally traumatized by this

(28:10):
child washing feet.
It was just not a good day.
So we get down to this wateringhole.
Uh-huh, it looked like acesspool and I didn't realize it
at the time.
But I'm nasty, I'm like I'mgetting in that water.
If there had been piranhas inthere.
I was washing myself off andpeople are jumping off.

(28:34):
So I'm like you know what thehell?
At this point, this has justbeen horrible, yeah.
So I'm like you know what thehell?
At this point, this has justbeen horrible.
So I'm just getting in.
Yeah, I got in and you knowthis was pre-digital cameras, so
you know, and I'm a hugepicture person, so I was taking
all these photos and we got homeand I would always get them

(28:55):
developed first thing.
Yeah, I looked at that waterand I'm just thankful I didn't
get like typhoid fever.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
It looked like sewage , oh my so many people were in
it, in it, yeah, and you know,cruise after cruise, and, and
you could see the watersplashing up.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know, normally it looks blue clear, Just brown
Gross.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, maybe that's why the cruise doesn't go there
anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I like Grenada.
I would love to go back toGrenada.
It was very interesting to meReally, the island yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
We need to go on a cruise.
I wouldn't go on that, hike.
Daniel and I said that theother day.
We're like we we need to go ona cruise.
I wouldn't go on that, hike.
Yeah, Daniel and I said thatthe other day.
We're like we all need to go ona cruise.
But see you and Dylan, they getbored really easy.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
No, I would like a cruise as long as there's stops.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, well, there's always stops, but you know
they're not the best stop.
I mean, like Daniel and I lovea cruise because it's like a fun
, relaxing vacation that youdon't have to plan or do
anything, but yet there's alsosome entertainment.
But we don't do like, unlessit's a really good stop, we may
not even get off the boat.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
No, I'm getting off the boat because usually there's
.
You know, Aruba is a good onebecause they have casinos and
there's.
I mean, I don't necessarily doan outing, but I want to go
gamble and go to the beach andyeah things like that.
I don't have to be, you know onand you know a planned outing
per se.

(30:28):
Yeah, but I do like I don'twant to sit on the boat.
The whole time and when I'm onthe boat I stay busy too like I
like to play bingo.
Bingo's fun on the boat.
I stay busy too Like I like toplay bingo.
Bingo's fun on the cruise.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah yeah, there's always fun, stupid fun things to
do we love a cruise?
Yeah, I just love a cruise,though, because it's like
thinkless, you don't have toplan anything.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
And it's fun to do and hang out.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
But that's why I didn't know if y'all would.
Y Y'all aren't very good atlounging.
Y'all get bored.
I do especially and it's justthe ADD in me and see, I can lay
by the pool all day, walkaround the ship, do the bingo,
do whatever sort of thing I getdepressed.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
You get like Dylan.
It says you it is.
He always says you are so weird, Like going on vacation.
I've never seen anyone.
If I just take three days andI'm not working, I'm depressed.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, I don't really get depressed or whatever, but I
can feel my energy go down.
If I come down too much and youknow I'm not keeping myself
busy then I just get verylethargic and I'm like then it's
hard to gear back up, but I cando it on vacation, I don't know

(31:47):
.
It's a different mindset whereyou're like laid up Y'all gotta
have something, but that's noteveryone vacations differently
and y'all are going to Hawaii,but your birthday let's talk
about that 52, how's it going tofeel?

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Fine, listen, I'm just thankful to be another, you
know, on this side of the grassanother year.
Age does not bother me.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Okay, that's good.
And now that you're gettingcloser to your trip, which I
guess we'll have to talk aboutin like two weeks after you get
back what plant you?
You're having dinner at the theversace, mansion versace and
man john.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Well, that's how, that's what's the net, that's
the name.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Sounds very basic thing to do Really.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
I'm just kidding.
No, I went there right after hewas murdered but they had not
obviously opened up the mansion.
I really don't want to eatthere, I just want to see inside
.
And it's a hotel and arestaurant.
Yeah, I want to see it.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, that's a very fun thing, and then y'all will
have some great shopping.
I'm sure my birthday's rightafter yours.
I'm sure you're going to buy mesomething fabulous, what
amazing.
I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
I cannot wait to see what you bring me back from
Miami.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
A big, nothing.
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Honestly, it's been so long since I've been there I
really don't know what to expect.
I mean, I remember all thepeople really pretty men, really
pretty women, everyone'sperfect um, and then there's
gonna be you too right, right.
I mean, I remember thinkingwhen I was.
I remember thinking when I wasyoung and cute damn this.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Uh, this really knocks you back probably won't
be the same now that you'reolder and you go and you'll be
like I don't give a shitwhatever I just remembered
something moving on anythingelse about your birthday.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
No, I called um, so we're using our um marriott
ownership points oh you know, hegot conned into his um where
we're going to another.
Yeah, we're going to anothermeeting there oh my god, you do
not need, I'm not buying.

(34:15):
No, need, I'm not buying.
No, no, no, no, I'm not buying,I don't need it.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
What are you?

Speaker 2 (34:22):
going to a meeting for Because I get points.
Just to go to the meeting, Iget freebies.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
But you're not good at saying no for this kind of
thing.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Well, here's the thing.
This is how you got yourself inthis situation to begin with.
For him to be so smart andbusiness oriented.
No, no, no.
I.
I want more.
I want 10 000 or 1 000 moremarriott ownership points, but I
don't want them now.
Why do you want them?

(34:49):
And in order for us to take thevacations in the future, I need
a thousand more.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
But you can pay some out of pocket.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
I can't.
But it doesn't make sense to doit this year, because I have
more than enough to cover.
More than enough to cover.
I won't need to do that until27.
But my thing is is if I go to ameeting every vacation between
now and then, I'll end up withover 100,000 Bonvoy points.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, but okay, here's the thing You're not
going to end up using all ofthese points, like you think you
are.
You're going to end up oh, Ican't get away this time, and
then they'll just carry over andyou won't need the extra points
.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
No, well, you can carry them over and you can rent
them.
You can rent them out too, butno, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I have I'm not even.
But listen, I'm not going tocomplain when I'm on vacation
with you.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I am not.
I'm not even taking thecheckbook.
It is not even an option.
And even Dylan was like why arewe going?
And an option, okay.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
And even dylan was like why are we going?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
and I was like 30 000 bonvoy points he's like, okay,
well, we can sit through atwo-hour thing.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, I mean, and it's fine, but I call, they
called me you should ask them ifthey have like a um, an
affiliate program or like.
Could you be some type of like?
Can you advertise that?
Can you promote it?
Can you get a little kickbackif you talk about it?
Ask them, if there's a littlesomething there, you can do a

(36:24):
whole presentation.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Well, it was funny, the lady called me.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Someone else might be interested in talking to you as
much as I like to make funabout it about how it's really
working.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well, there's pros and cons and I always, I always,
you know point that out.
In the end, you know, for anaccountant or an engineer, you
know folks out there.
They really want to know thebottom line, right, you know.
And the bottom line of thevacation points is you're
basically prepaying for yourvacations at a 30% discount, if

(36:59):
you really do the math.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yeah.
So you get a little savings,but you're prepaying and you're
kind of locked in.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
It's all how you manage it too.
Yeah, like you can manage it towhere it really benefits you.
And if you know you're notgoing to take a trip or you
don't want to take a trip andyou rent it out, you're, you
know, you're even in bettershape.
I don't want a lot because Iowned, you know, in my prior
life I owned at four specificproperties in Hawaii Tom's

(37:31):
Shares, tom's Shares throughMarriott.
I owned at four specificproperties in Hawaii Timeshares,
timeshares through Marriott andI do not want to get into that
again because the fees were somuch and I owned too much, it
was impossible to take thevacations, because I ended up
with like eight weeks a year.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah, which you just couldn't eat.
I gave it away.
Do so.
This new method is more likeyou're pre-paying for points
that you then exchange for trips, uh, so you're not really
paying monthly, uh, maintenancefees annually.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
You do pay.
You do have a deed.
Yeah, so you do pay thatannually and it's about for me
hours are like $2,700 a year.
Okay, which isn't you know.
I'd calculate all of that inand it works.
And then if, like, say, Ididn't, we said we couldn't go

(38:29):
on a trip in 2027 or 2028.
You can push those points backfor a year and then at that
point, if you even don't want todo that, if you're like I just
don't even want to deal with it,you can convert them over to
Monvoy points.
That's not the best managementof your points.

(38:52):
You lose a little bit of moneylike that, so it's not really
something I would do.
That's why I told you you know,we're going to, the four of us
are going to take a trip in, Ithink we said, june, sometime of
next year, 26.
Yeah, and in that way, becauseI've kind of saved those points

(39:13):
aside so that we can actuallystay in like two different
cities and okay, in spain we'llsee how it goes.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Uh well, I think we have a few minutes.
I got one more story.
I remembered that you weresupposed to tell we started
talking about this.
It's a sore subject, so we'llfinish off on this one, but I
think he's recovered by now.
Speaking of awkward, are welike?

Speaker 2 (39:37):
is this like traumatized Stephen Day?
This is my birthday week.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Well, it's going back to awkward stories and awkward
moments, for sure.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I mean, maybe we could pull up some childhood
humiliation stories.
Okay, Do you have some?
Probably if I sit here andthink about it.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Well, stephen, we started talking about this.
If you watch our live sales youmay have caught it and we were
like we got to save it forpodcasts to talk about.
We have to tell about how youroyally screwed up on payroll.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Okay, yeah, I'm still a little pissed off at this.
See, I told you he's still alittle traumatized about this
Because, okay, if you reallyknow me, I double, triple,
quadruple, check everything tothe point where it drives people

(40:31):
crazy, not this time nope.
So uh, we had an employee Iwill refer to as criminal, okay
we had criminal.
And she.
I put her in the payroll systemand I did.

(40:55):
I really don't know what I did,but somehow I put her in at a
salary of $30,000 a year.
Yep a year, yeah, and we endedup paying her her salary for

(41:15):
half a year, plus all of thehours she worked.
Yeah, and the heifer did noteven tell us.
I really think I am going totake legal action because I have
to.
I have three years.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
At least a year now.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I don't remember when , a year now, but Stephen was
devastated when dad, I meanfigured this out.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
It's so much money you weren't even upset I was
like it's gone.
Obviously, we're okay, it'sgone.
It we're okay, it's gone, it'sgoing to be fine.
But the back story more thanthat.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
The funnier thing is is Dylan found it.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, dylan was with you, who had never even looked
at payroll, never seen thepayroll, and you were like, oh,
I got to stop by the retailstore and I got to submit
payroll.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
He was looking over my shoulder.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Thank God, yes, and caught it.
But the bigger thing is thiscriminal, as we shall call, only
worked like two days a week.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
At most.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So yeah at most.
So yeah at most.
So maybe was getting like 12hours a week or because she
would usually maybe work asaturday and a sunday four hours
on a sunday eight hour day,yeah, if that.
So 12 hours or whatever.
And then was getting a paycheckfor a lot over,000.

(42:49):
For like that amount of money.
And then I mean it was obvious,right, that's what was funny.
I kept saying, oh my gosh, likehow did she not know?
And then they were trying toplay it off and give the benefit
of the doubt, like well, maybebecause she does work another
job, blah, blah, blah, becauseshe does work another job, blah,

(43:11):
blah, blah.
And I was like no, you'regetting a direct deposit from
the nested fig where you work.
And you see, oh, I'm gettingover, you know $1,000 or
whatever it would be.
And I worked one day this weekbecause she was getting the
salary and her hours.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
And you know, and I had to look it up, so you know
it's gonna involve me some timeand trouble, but you know I am
gonna go, I'm, you know I'm, I'min a better state of mind, so I
am gonna go after her legallybecause it is fraud.
Yeah, and after you know, doinga little research, it is fraud.
You have to pay the money back.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah, well, and you should have said something.
It wasn't like you know.
I could have understood if youcalled it and it was off by like
$50 a paycheck or $100 apaycheck because you may just go
, oh, like.
Someone may not calculate that,I can understand that.
But if you were supposed to get, say, 10 hours, maybe you were

(44:18):
in your check was going to get,you know, $200 because this is
your side job and you got $1,200.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
You know if this person had made an effort and
was like even making an effort,I mean by giving us $100 a month
effort, just a little effort,you know, because I was, I'm
partial, you know it was mymistake.
But when you don't, when youdon't tell them, it's just like

(44:47):
if the bank makes an error likethat, that is fraud, that is
bank fraud and they're gonna get, they're gonna get their money.
So, uh, we can get our moneyright.
So you know, we may.
Just you know she may be payingout of her paycheck, we just
may have to have it so then,what did she do?

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I don't even know how it was.
This was was a big deal y'all.
This was Stephen couldn't talkabout it.
I was wrecked, he was wrecked.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
In my professional work history, that is the
biggest mistake I've ever made.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Yeah, how did it end?
She just stopped showing upbecause you had talked to her
and she acted surprised.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yeah, and then she sent me a text, which I have,
saying she was going to pay itback.
She would have it paid backthis date, that she understood
that was fraud and sheapologized.
I mean, I've got listen, I havemy ducks in a row for her

(45:50):
little ass.
Yeah, so you know.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
That sounds like a fun thing to do this summer.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
I think it's going to be a good thing Late spring,
yeah, yeah, and my thing is iswrong, is wrong.
And if you try to do the rightthing and I gave her the
opportunity to do the rightthing, I even said you know what
, you don't even have to pay itall back.
You can keep one third of itbecause I want to own that as my

(46:21):
mistake, right?
So I mean, I'm giving you$5,000.
Yeah, as a gift.
Yeah, pay me the rest back,right, and you don't even make
an effort.
Yeah, so I have.
No, I don't feel bad garnishing, having her wages garnished.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
And, like you said, even if she would pay $10 a week
, you would have been like, well, she's doing something, we'll
be getting $10 forever.
Yeah, but we brought that up.
I don't know how that came upin the live sale.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
And came up in the live sale and people were like,
I want to know, I want to know,and I was like, well, save it
for the podcast.
That was my, that was my big,that was my big mistake.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
He was so distraught.
Oh, I was just glad it wasn'tme you were.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
you were shocked.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
It wasn't you, you were like I'm surprised I hadn't
done that yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I was just like well, I'm glad that went to me and
the way that the payroll systemworks, it's easy to see.
Yeah, it's easy to see how thatcan happen.
Yeah, I just look every timenow.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Occasionally, Daniel will be like have you checked
payroll lately?
And I'm like it's good.
Yeah, I mean it might happensomewhere else, but it won't
happen on payroll again.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Nope, there's one thing I can guarantee you that
will never happen again.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Oh, my goodness, it's a good laugh for me at this
point.
I know you still are likedistraught about it on some
level, but for me I'm like.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Well, I've just never made mistakes like that, and
especially with money, becauseI've always double checked,
triple checked, triple checkedeverything.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
And well, that's definitely another awkward
moment.
We've had an episode full ofawkward moments, so make sure
you call or text us and tell usyour awkward moments.
Our hotline is 864-982-5029.
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(49:06):
But I think that's all the timewe have for this week, Is that?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
it yes, and I've had enough torture.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
You've had enough torture.
Well, I'll see what I can do onthe next episode.
How about that?
Bye y'all, have a great week.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Thanks guys.
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