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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're back.
Look who's here the two of us.
We are recording separately,but we're back together.
I guess it's time for anotherepisode.
We're in the same city.
Yeah, it's time for anotherepisode of who's Driving.
Welcome to who's Driving.
I'm Wesley Turner.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
And I'm Stephen Merck .
We're two best friends andentrepreneurs.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Who's Driving is an entertaining look into the
behind the scenes of our lives,friendships and businesses.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
These are the stories we share and topics we discuss,
as two best friends would on along road trip.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer
a wide range of informativetopics centered around running
small businesses, social mediaand all things home and garden.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
You never know who's driving orwhere we're headed.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
All we know is it's always a fun ride.
So this week we got somecatching up to do, because the
last few episodes wepre-recorded a couple of them,
and I've been in Florida, you'vebeen in Hawaii.
How are you?
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Hawaii.
Or, as Dylan likes to tortureme and say, kauai, and I'm like
it's not Kauai, it's Kauai,kauai.
So the whole trip, he would say.
Because he knew that botheredme, he would say Kauai, yeah, I
was like okay.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Let's move on Catching up to do and this is
the first time I'm literallyseeing you we just signed on.
We were trying to catch up alittle bit Talked a couple of
times I tried not to bother youtoo much when you were.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I've been half-dead y'all and, if you can look, I
shouldn't brag about this, but Ilaughed at it in the bathroom.
My beard is now like 98 gray.
Like you can't hardly see it,it's white, yeah I haven't grown
my lord, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
I shave every day and I haven't skipped the day.
I normally do in years and Iknow mine would be like
completely white at this point.
It's just, it's white, but Ihaven't skipped a day in years
and I know mine would be likecompletely white.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
At this point it's white, but I haven't shaved
since Friday because, quitehonestly, I've been half dead.
We got on a plane in Kauai at 940 PM Friday night yes, pacific
time.
We didn't get home until 7pmSaturday evening.

(02:28):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
And a six hour time change.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yes, Dylan has just been hopping around like a
little bunny rabbit and he'slike what's wrong?
Are you sick?
What's wrong?
I'm like, no, I am jet lagged,I am old.
I said when.
I was your age I could go toHawaii, fly, unpack, get my life

(02:57):
together.
I was at work the next day.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Now, from here forward, when I go to Europe or
I go to Hawaii, I've got tobuild in five days of either
recruitment at home.
I told him yesterday.
I said, I think I may need togo to the hospital and just get
some kind of an IV.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
You should go to the place I.
I go to the restore, restore.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I should have gone and got today I should have done
that today, but um you got homesaturday night yeah you
recovered sunday partially, andtoday is monday.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's Monday.
We are recording this.
I think this is the most lastminute we've ever recorded an
episode.
It's 9 pm Monday and this comesout at 6 am on Tuesday.
So this is a quick turnaroundand if you're not watching us
and you don't know or didn'tpick up on it, we're in two

(04:03):
different locations.
Stephen's at home, I'm at home,but it's the only way we could
get together because you'releaving tomorrow morning.
I don't know why you thoughtthat was a great idea to
schedule that.
I'm glad you scheduled itbefore you went on vacation.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
So now you're obligated to get up and go
because otherwise Well, it,honestly, is a blessing, like I
didn't, I was just scheduling itbecause I was like, okay, I've
got to have something that makesme get back to it.
But with the Atlanta, with ourAtlanta live schedule, it just

(04:44):
really honestly, had had I known, it would have been great to
have gone today.
But you don't know what youdon't know, sometimes you just
have to roll with it.
So we're going to be in Atlantatomorrow, we're shooting to be
live at 5.30 pm, we're doingjewelry tomorrow night and we're

(05:06):
doing handbags on Wednesday.
Thursday is to be determined,and I think we're going to hit
another warehouse on Thursday ifeverything lines up.
If not, we'll do some otherstuff at market.

(05:29):
And Friday I'm not sure ifwe're going to have anything to
do or not, and I'm okay withthat.
Actually, that's fun though.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'm kind of jealous that y'all are getting to go and
I'm not going to market, butthen I'm also Well, you can go
with us.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
I'm kind of jealous that y'all are getting to go and
I'm not going to market, butthen I'm also.
Well, you can go with us.
I know You've got your own crapto get done.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Right, I'm working on decorating so it works and it's
nice that y'all can go and doit.
But you know I love going tothe market.
Yeah, I wish the market waslike 45 minutes from my house,
because I would just live thereand work there.
So, yeah, today.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I was like okay, stephen, you got to get your ass
up, you've got to water theplants, you've got to get stuff
done.
I had not checked the mail.
That's a massive thing, as youknow, when you're gone for like
10 days.
That was an hour's job.
I was like I can't go toAtlanta and not get all these

(06:27):
things done.
But I did and I feel better.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, my problem is I went to the beach house we'll
talk about our vacations but Iwas gone for almost two weeks.
But I did a little, the minimumeveryday, like check a few
emails.
I would scroll through, see ifI saw anything important and
then just move on.
But so I got back on Thursdaymorning about well, I got in bed

(06:53):
at 4 am and then so when I gotup on Thursday because
originally I wasn't supposed tocome back until Thursday night I
was like, well, I might as welljust ease into it.
And then when I got up onFriday, I'm like you know what?
I just need a fresh start onMonday.
So I've just been kickingeverything down the road, all of
my responsibilities to thisweek.

(07:15):
I just finished out anotherweek of vacation.
I feel like not that we're everon vacation, as you know.
I mean we are, but you knowthere's always stuff to do, so
we do that.
But Vacation, as you know, Imean we are, but you know
there's always stuff to do, sowe do that.
But let's talk about yourvacation, let's talk about
Hawaii.
How was it?
Because yours was much moreexciting.
Well, I went to the Floridahouse.
It was great.
We can talk about that, butlet's talk about you first, okay

(07:38):
.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It was really good.
We did fly first class.
I used points for most and Ipaid the difference and honestly
I'm so glad that I did that.
I've never in my life paid forfirst class and.
I paid very little I mean like$2,000, but it was so worth it

(08:06):
just with my bad back because itis hurting some today just from
all the travel.
So that was good, we had noissues with the flight.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
The food was good.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
All that was so smooth, so good.
All that was so smooth, so good.
The weird thing, the unluckything, is we had the pods from
Atlanta to Los Angeles, whereyou know made the complete bed,
yeah, but from Los Angeles toHawaii, which would have been
the nicest to have had the beds,we didn't have the beds.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
And I think you had a bigger, bigger space.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
We had.
We, yeah, we were still infirst class, but I think and I
was telling Dylan I had not beento that Island in 27 years,
which is seems so crazy to meand we went to the.
We went to the exact resort,the first place I ever went in
Hawaii, 27 or 28 years ago, Ican't remember exactly.

(09:10):
But when I went back then thelarge jets could not fly into
that island, so you had to flyinto Honolulu and take a little
huddle jumper over to thatisland.
But now they're taking biggerjets.
But I told Dylan, because weflew back out of Hawaii on that

(09:31):
same jet, I think that's thelargest one they can get safely
and out.
I was like that's the logical,because if they could, they
would fly a bigger one in.
But yeah, the the flightattendant said, yeah, you'll be
on.
I said we have the pods on theway back to sleep and he was

(09:51):
like, no, you'll be on thisexact plane.
I was like, oh that wasinteresting, yeah, um the island
.
The island did not.
It was not really differentthan what I remembered.
It's, it's filled, it's filledin.

(10:11):
There's been some growth, butit's still.
It's still not like even Maui,you know, there's no, it's just
not as commercial.
There's a few McDonaldcdonald'sand you know.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
But yes, so we went to maui in 2021.
All of us did together and whenwe were there, you were saying
we needed to go to this island,or this is the one you wanted to
go to next, because you'd beenthere years ago and it was the
more still tropical, lessdeveloped if you wanted, like a
true kind of tropical.
It's called the.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Garden Islands.
Okay, yeah, and so we a fewfunny things.
Is I don't know if you rememberlike with Maui, there's a lot
of chickens even on Maui but,Kauai is covered.
There's chickens everywhere.

(11:10):
That's funny when you go to thesupermarket there's chickens and
chicks, and at the pool at theresort there's chickens and
little chicks.
And so, you know, I'm like whatin the hell is with the
chickens?
Like.
So I had to ask.
You know, I'm not againstchickens, it's fine.
I just found it veryinteresting.

(11:30):
Chickens have always been anissue in Hawaii.
Years ago they brought inthere's no predators to kill the
chickens.
I'm thinking in my mind well,why don't we have chickens just
wandering around?
That would be kind of cool.
We should just all get chickensand just let them loose.
Well, we have so many predatorshere, you know, we have the fox

(11:54):
and coyotes and and snakes.
Yeah, all the differentpredators that Hawaii doesn't
have yeah.
So the chickens went crazy.
Well, some idiot at some pointdecided that the chickens were
such a problem they brought in amongoose to get rid of.

(12:16):
Why would you bring in a rodentto?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
get rid of.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
So now the mongoose are on all of the islands except
for Kauai.
So that's why there's so manychickens and there's an old yeah
, there's an old wives tale thatthey brought them to.
They brought them to the islandof Kauai, but the guy pulling

(12:42):
them off the boat one of thembit the guy on his hand, so he
threw the cage in the water anddrowned them.
That's why they're not infestedwith mongoose.
I don't know if that's true ornot.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Many, many, many years ago.
This is a funny.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Before you do that, I meant to ask you this Did Key
West have a lot of chickens?
Because didn't they used tohave?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
chickens running around.
Yes, yes, they have tons ofchickens too.
It's the same thing.
There's no predators to takethem out, all right.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
You just didn't mention those yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Personally I liked it .
It was like six mile southcarolina meets hawaii.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
But why not let the chickens run wild?
Because I mean, those are goodfood source too.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I mean, you know what I'm saying why would you bring
in a damn mongoose?
That's like oh you know, we'rehaving problem, let's bring in
some rattlesnakes.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
I mean yeah, I thought that was really bizarre.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
So Dylan has heard me talk about.
My first trip to Hawaii wasthat island and this was my
previous life, and we rented awhite Jeep.
I still this is etched.
So Dylan has heard this horrorstory.
Well, you know I grew up withterms of endearment.

(14:12):
You know when Jack Nicholsontakes the Corvette onto the
beach and you know you'redriving on the beach and it's
just super cool.
I always thought, oh, thatwould be cool to drive on the
beach, Fantasy.
Yeah, we go to the Nepali coast, which is very, very remote.

(14:33):
It was more remote then than itis now.
It's still very remote.
We had to drive five and a halfmiles on a dirt, rock, horrible
, horrible road, Like you thinkyou're going to just die before
you get there.
So I did this like 27 years agoand I thought it was a good

(14:57):
idea to, because there's nothingout there.
There's nothing out there, no.
Cell phone cover, nothing outthere.
There's nothing out there, nocell phone cover Nothing,
nothing, you and the ocean andthe mountains.
So I drive the Jeep.
I decide it's going to be sofun to drive it on this beach
because there's no people, it'scompletely safe.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
This is 20 something years ago, mm, hmm, mm hmm, safe
?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
This is 20 something years ago.
I drive the Jeep onto the beachand it just it's like I'm in
quick sand.
It's in the evening and thenthe water is coming up.
It's already under the Jeep,getting ready to wash the Jeep
into the Pacific.
I was freaking out.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Because at the time.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
First of all, I don't want to pay for any vehicle to
be floating in the middle of theocean, but 27 years ago I could
not afford to drown a Jeep.
It was a big deal to drown ajeep.
It was a big deal.
I was freaking out.
There were these people thatlived in the bushes right on the

(16:12):
beach.
They had dreadlocks.
They came out.
He was wearing just a loincloth, she was wearing just a
loincloth, nothing on top.
They smell.
I can't even tell you how theysmell I love them to this day.
So they came up and they werelike, oh don't stress, guys here

(16:37):
, let's just let the air out ofthe tires and then to drive
right out.
So we let most of the air outof the four tires and it just
drove right out.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's a story, it's something you never get out of
your mind.
So Dylan's heard this storybefore.
We're driving out there, andDylan is, by nature, a scary cat
I'm not, I am.
Oh, that looks cool, let's goin my mind.
I still think I'm like 28.

(17:10):
Clearly I'm not.
So we go out through there andit's rough.
It is rough, it's more roughthan I even remembered what
Dylan said.
Cars are turning around, butyou know, not us.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
We're going for it no we're going for it.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
It'll be fine, that's what I kept saying.
It's fine, he said, but thingshappen with you.
I was like they do, but thishas already happened out here,
so we're good.
This has already been a disaster.
It won't be this time.
Yeah, he's like I don't know,steven, I'm afraid we're gonna

(17:51):
blow a tire, because those rockswere huge.
They were so big you had tododge them like you couldn't
even go over them in the jeepstill tore plugs out of the
wheel, the wheels, I mean justchunks of rubber.
So we, we get out there and weget like to the first place
where you can see the sand andthe ocean, and he's like, okay,

(18:15):
we're here, just pull in.
And I'm like no, this it thisdead end, this dead ends at the
mountain range.
We're not there yet he's like ohmy gosh, we keep going further.
Then we get to another placewhere people have stopped.

(18:35):
He's like okay, this is good.
Then there's this little pigtrail of another.
I'm like no, we've got to gothat way because it's going to
take us to the edge.
No, we've got to go that waybecause it's going to take us to
the edge.
I mean my goal was to go to theedge, I wanted to go as far as
man could go.
At this point he says I havejust about had enough, you're

(19:01):
gonna ruin this day.
I mean he was.
That was Dylan's mad.
I mean he was mad, I waslaughing and I was like it's
going to be fine.
And he is blowed up like abullfrog.
It ended up being beautiful andgreat and he said it was

(19:24):
totally worth it.
He apologized.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Y'all made it all the way out.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, they've got fancy now.
Now they have bathrooms andoutdoor showers out there.
There's still people that liveout there.
It was so weird to be on thebeach and our footprints and no
one else's yeah, so that was.
That was really cool.
We actually, um, that was oneof our favorite, one of our

(19:55):
favorite things.
And then we, um, we did thehelicopter tour, which I've
never done that in a while.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
Tell us about that, because we were wondering if you
were going to survive or not,but obviously you did.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I had concerns.
So you know I had to go througha whole checklist.
Is it FAA certified?
You know I had to do all mythings.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
How long has the?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
pilot been flying?
Has the company ever had anyincidents?
And they have not, that's good.
I thought that was all valid.
I mean, if they've had likeeight incidents, then it's not
the company for me.
So here was the thing that mademe nervous.

(20:47):
So we got on there and I'm like, okay, I feel good.
There were two bigger people, acouple.
They were, let's just say, big,bald, young couple.
So they had those two in theback, which we lucked up because

(21:12):
we were smaller than them.
So me and Dylan and the pilotwere in the front together.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Y'all had to distribute the weight.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, the guy and girl were in the back, which is
great because we had the bestview, so that was good.
But then something I had notthought about until we're on
here, and then the pilot isdiscussing it and I'm like, oh
my gosh.
He's like should anyone getsick?
We have barf bags.

(21:43):
And I'm like, hmm, and I wasthinking to myself, if one of
these fools throw up on me.
Or if I have to smell, throw up,I'm going to throw up.
Right, this is going to be sobad.
So I'm like, please let them benot wusses or get motion sick.

(22:05):
They ended up being very nicecouple and we were not.
We were handling it all verywell.
So when we got into themountains he was like, okay,
y'all seem like y'all are good.
I'm going to do some crazystuff with y'all.
Y'all seem like y'all are good.
So I'm going to do some somecrazy stuff with y'all.
If y'all are good.

(22:26):
And we were all like, thumbs up, let's do it.
So he took us into the Canyonand we did, we did like an ass.
Yeah, went on our side and thencame back.
It was so beautiful.
It was so beautiful, it was socool.
So I you know I can't wait todo it on the other islands

(22:50):
because I've been so reluctantbefore.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
So now.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
I feel better.
I feel much better about that.
That was.
Our favorite thing was probablythat road to Nepali and that
helicopter tour.
Yeah, it was worth.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
How long was your tour?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
We were 45 minutes.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
That's a good tour, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
We went all over the island and we did it on Monday.
So we got there Thursday.
We did it on Monday.
So we got there Thursday.
We did it on Monday.
So we saw some things we'dalready seen, and then we saw
things we wanted to see.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Oh, that's good.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
And then we got to see things that you can't see
Right.
So probably when we go back tothat island, we will not do the
helicopter tour, we'll do theboat tour on that one to see it
from that perspective.
But I do recommend when you goto Hawaii, you do a boat tour or

(23:54):
a helicopter tour.
After doing that, you know,when we went in 2021, we were in
the middle of COVID.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
We didn't do.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
There were no restaurants.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
You couldn't do a lot of the things that we liked and
wanted to do, because when wewent in 2021, we got there and
it opened and then they ended upclosing it down again after we
left for a short time.
Like we had this small windowthat it just happened, that it

(24:31):
worked out.
Isn't that crazy to think backabout now?
Everything was closed down andeverything.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's crazy.
So, like the food I was tellingDylan, this time I was like you
know, it's something we took,always took for granted before
and now just going and havingyou know our choice, our choice
of places to eat and enjoy thefood, and no mask and not that

(24:59):
stress, no, from when we wentlast time.
So the only crazy thing thathappened is, you know, I do
think I'm like 29.
Sometimes I think I'm 19.
It just depends on the day.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Or if you're today, you feel like you're 60.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
From the time change 60.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah but yeah but normally I think I'm like 19,
right, yeah, that's, my mind islike 19 and my body is not.
So we go to this, this placecalled secret speech, and the
was like it's a little hike andI was like I mean, I like to

(25:48):
hike, I like to hike.
Well, I didn't have the good,my good old trusty water bottle.
So I never drink enough waterIf I don't have my bottle just
the way it is.
I can't stand the tap water inHawaii, so I was.
I knew I was dehydrated, we hadalready talked about that, but

(26:14):
I wasn't thinking and, likeidiots, we took one little bitty
, one of those little bittybottles they give you on the
airplane.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Oh my gosh, it's all we have left is water.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
So we hiked down.
It was literally like a miledownhill, like a 70 degree
incline.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Well, down it was fine Because, you know, in Maui
I messed up my ITL band goingdown, right Well.
So I was a little nervous thistime because I was like, oh my
gosh, but I had just had amassage and he worked on my ITL
band.

(26:55):
So I'm like, well, hopefullythat doesn't mess my ITL band up
.
So I went down fine, walked onthe beach for a couple miles
probably, went back and went togo back up.
So it was like 90 degrees.
I was super dehydrated.

(27:16):
I was very dehydrated, verytired, and it was in the
afternoon.
I tell you I thought the lasttime Dylan's standing right over
here laughing at me tellingthis, the last time I remember

(27:37):
being this miserable was I wasanother idiot, tom.
I was in Arizona and decided tohike Camelback Mountain.
If you're listening to thispodcast.
Do not do that, unless you arelike a triathlete.
Do not do it.
It is a bad idea.
So we're going up and I meanthere's old people going past me

(28:03):
, but I mean it was not, and Ihad on flip flops and was
carrying a bag.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
That's the other thing I saw in some of y'all's
videos.
Y'all were hiking around indamn flip flops and you got
these weak ankles already.
I know it was a bad idea Lasttime you hiked you hurt your
foot ankles already.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I know it was a bad idea and I carried shoes.
I carried shoes to hike in, butthen I was like, oh, it'll be
fine.
See, that's what I tell myself.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
That's where you go wrong.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
When we get halfway up I'm like I gotta stop, I
gotta stop.
So we stop and I'm like, oh mygosh, am I like having a heart
attack or it's somethingseriously wrong with me?
Then we get to the top, whereit's like just a slight incline,

(28:55):
normal walking, and I was justI could barely go.
And I said, dylan, I need youto go get the Jeep and pull it
down as close as you can I need.
He said I'm not leaving youBecause he said I was wide as a
sheet.
And he said I'm not leaving you.

(29:19):
And I was like go get the Jeep.
And he was like no, I'm not.
And then finally I was like goget the jeep.
And he was like no, I'm not.
And then finally I wasscreaming go get the jeep.
And he got the jeep and I waslike okay, if my I knew enough,

(29:39):
if my body did not get itselftogether really quick, there was
a problem.
Yeah, but I got in the Jeep inthe air conditioning, drank a
bottle of water and I wascompletely back to normal in 10
minutes.
Okay.
So I was like, okay, decentrecovery time, that's a good

(30:02):
recovery time.
Yes, I put it, I put it into toask Fred and chat GPT holding
this whole the circumstances.
He was like it was funny.
He was like, wow, that is ahike that would be strenuous for
a 25 year old, let alone a 52year old, and a 10 minute

(30:24):
recovery time is actually prettyimpressive.
So I was like, okay, he waslike, if you know, if, if it had
gone, if you had, if I had likea heart issue or something, I
would have had pain and Iwouldn't have recovered as quick
.
But I had pain.
I was just, honestly, I thinkit was 100 percent dehydration,

(30:47):
which is so crazy.
It's so important to stayhydrated yeah, that was the
craziest lettuce now and vinegarand protein shakes.
Because every night Duke'srestaurant was right beside us,

(31:17):
right beside our resort, and so,no matter what we had for
dinner, we went down and hadhula pie every night.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
It was so good, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You introduced us to that it was so good it was and I
was.
The thing about Hawaii is andI've been more times than I
deserve and I'm, I'm so, sograteful.
But every time I go.
Every time I go, it's neverlong enough.

(31:52):
I never want to come back,which I mean that's a good thing
.
Obviously, I love Hawaii.
I think my blood pressure dropsat least 10 points.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
When you get there.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, it is.
It is just a different.
They're on a different schedule.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
The.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Hawaiians are on a totally different schedule.
They are not.
And listen, I am not judgingthem and I'm jealous of them.
Right, right, they do not getin a hurry they do not drive in
a hurry they do not get.
They don't get worked up fornothing and and you know, I was

(32:39):
the funny thing, I was talkingto a friend of mine about that
yesterday and when she and herhusband go, they always spend
two weeks.
I think we're going to do twoweeks from here forward.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I told you that's what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, yeah, but she was telling me that they looked
into it and, out of all of thestates in the United States,
they have the longest longevitylifespan are in Hawaii.
I think it's their diet and thelack of stress.

(33:20):
Yeah, it was funny.
When I was there I was askingone of the ladies at the resort
about the tsunami Because somany people had reached out, and
I was like tsunami, blah, blah,blah, yeah.
And she said, oh God, it wasterrifying.
I was like, really, she's likethe resort evacuated.

(33:44):
I was like, oh, she said theonly people like you could be on
the fourth floor or higher, butbelow four you had to evacuate.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
But see, I would have just left, because who wants to
be on the fourth floor and thebottom one's washed out.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I looked and I was like where do you go?
I was like, okay, worst casescenario, if we're ever there
and we get a tsunami warningalert, whatever, the best thing
to do is just pack food andwater in your Jeep and drive
into the mountains and park.
Yeah, hang out and sleep in thejeep.

(34:27):
Yeah, I mean it's not worthrisking your life, right, and
you're, you know you'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
You'll be fine up there.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
But yeah, it was a, it was a, it was a great time.
I can't wait to go back.
I think the next time we'regoing to do Oahu a different
island, because I've only flowninto Oahu and never explored

(35:03):
Oahu I want to do Oahu and thenthe next time the big island of
Hawaii.
Yeah, but yeah, it was good andyou had some events during your
little vacation in Florida.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I had a great stay in Florida.
It was a lot of fun.
Oh my God, you have to tell mysecrets.
They're not secrets, no.
So we went to Florida.
So Daniel and I went to Ididn't even mention it on
Instagram or anything whatyou're talking about.
I didn't even mention it onInstagram, or anything what

(35:41):
you're talking about.
So we went to our Floridacottage, which is very nice, by
the way, since you haven't beenin two years now, right?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
I know, it was two years, I know.
Two years this July that youwent, so anyway, I know I'm
going to plan a trip there too.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
It's very well kept and good to go.
So in case, you're wonderingit's all good.
So ours was a little notdiscombobulated, but anyway,
going into it, daniel had beenoffered to go to California.
So we always booked the cottagefor not quite two weeks, like a

(36:21):
little over a week and a halfthe cottage for not quite two
weeks, like a little over a weekand a half.
So we left on Sunday and thenthe following Sunday Daniel was
leaving to go to Californiabecause he got invited to go to
some trial gardens with somelike seed companies and stuff
like that.
So we had already booked ourvacation and that opportunity
came up and he was like, do youmind if I go?
And I was like, no, it's fine.

(36:42):
I was like, but I'm stayingthere, or whatever.
So that was good.
So the last few days I wasthere by myself, but in the
middle of our trip, since shebrought it, I had to go to the
emergency room or the emergency.
Well, it was like the emergencyroom, but it wasn't like a big
hospital, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Well, it was like the emergency room, but it wasn't
like a big hospital or whatever,because I had this knot come up
in my growing ear, growing Kindof like top of leg.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
Because you had let Dr Merck see it, so it came up
like July.
It was when we were leaving thebeach from Daniel's family.
Like the day we were leaving, Inoticed this like knot.
It was like a knot under myskin at the top of my leg, that
where it bends or whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I told you.
I told you about going down tothat Myrtle Beach, getting in
that nasty water.
I told you you don't need to bedoing that down there.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
So, anyway, this knot had come up, but it had been
fine.
It was tender the first day ortwo, but nothing had changed.
It was just there.
I thought it was a hernia and Imade you feel it too and you
were like, yeah, that wasprobably a hernia, because
before then I had been workingout a lot and doing the stair
master and I've been doingsomething else as well Helping

(38:02):
Daniel too.
And then helping Daniel and we'dbeen moving some furniture and
I just thought and it hadn'tgone down so I just thought, oh,
it's just this or whatever.
Well, we get to Florida and itwas fine and somehow I like,
literally, was like, oh, thatbump.
I don't even know how it cameup, but I was like that bump is

(38:22):
still there.
I made Daniel like fill it orwhatever.
I was like I think I aggravatedit last week because we were
gotten this big piece offurniture from the vintage shop
and we were trying to move it.
That's a whole nother story I'mnot talking about, but anyway,
I was like I think I aggravatedit last week, but it's fine.
The next day I got up and mywhole like leg area right, like

(38:45):
where the bend is, I guessthat's your groin was red and I
was like, oh, my gosh.
Well, you know, never Google it, because it was like could be a
hernia the circulation, that'swhat you yell at me about,
google, I know.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
It could be a medical emergency, you know, and I was
like we were getting ready to go.
Yeah, you found out you weredying right then and there yeah,
right then.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
So then we were getting ready to go to the beach
and I walked in there.
I was like we're going to haveto cancel our beach day.
I got to go to the emergencyroom and get this in there.
I was like we're going to haveto cancel our beach day.
I got to go to the emergencyroom and get this checked out.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I'm so glad you didn't tell me until afterwards,
because I would have beenGoogling it going oh my god.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, I went very nice.
I had a little CAT scan.
It wasn't a hernia, um.
So they gave me likeantibiotics and then, um, I
guess it was an infection orsomething.
He said it could be just like alymph node that's gotten, you
know, gotten infected orwhatever.
So, um, I was on antibioticsthe rest of the trip, which also

(39:59):
made me feel wacky and weird.
So I was on those for a fewdays and then Daniel left and
then when he left I was like Ihad a great time, like I wasn't,
because people were like is itweird being there by yourself?
Or you know, like on a vacationI actually enjoyed it, like

(40:20):
obviously I love him being there, or whatever but because this,
you've gone to Vegas by yourselfand I, yeah, I like, I enjoy
being by myself.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
So, yeah, I'm with my best friends, me myself, and I,
me too.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
The problem was I was a little medicated and crazy by
myself one day and I was likeoh my God, am I dying?
Is this a tumor?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Like what is this.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
It wasn't the next day, I was fine and it was, it
was all good.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
So the funny thing is this made me think of it,
talking about dirty myrtle um, Iwas.
We were in hawaii yeah and Idon't remember where we were.
Oh, we were at a pizzarestaurant, a local pizza place

(41:05):
which was really good.
It was called the Brick OvenPhenomenal.
If you have to go there, if yougo to Kauai, it's just a small
mom and pop, mostly local,excellent pizza.
And the guy was like where arey'all from?
And the guy was like wherey'all from?

(41:27):
And you know, we said southcarolina and he said, oh, yeah,
I've heard about myrtle beachthere.
I was like I, I was like really, you live here and you're
talking about myrtle beach.
And he was like well, yeah,that's just one place South
Carolina is known for.
I said, well, don't ever gothere from here.

(41:50):
It's not that bad.
I'm just saying going from evenCalifornia beaches or Hawaii,
from the West Coast in thePacific, to Myrtle beach is
going to be a level ofdisappointment I can't even

(42:10):
explain to you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I said our beaches are not likethese, right, they're not like
these Cause, honestly, the bestand I think you would agree, the
closest beaches in, in myopinion, are in the Gulf.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, those are like where we were.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Miramar Beach yeah.
Yeah, those are gorgeousthrough beaches, but you know,
key West is the same way.
But Key West is the same way.
Like Dylan, I had to explain tohim when we were at Key West.
I was like Key West is anisland, but it's not beach, it's

(42:51):
a lot more.
It's like, you know, the onebeach they have is like ugh, I
wouldn't even go.
You know every place has itsthing.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yeah, you know every place has its thing, yeah, so I
guess when I I mean talkingabout maybe when I was on
vacation with Daniel's familyand was in the water, maybe I
got an infection, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Did you get in the?
Yeah?
Yeah, and you can.
That can happen.
Did you get in the hot tub?
No, Anywhere.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
I think I didn't or that or a pool.
I was only in the ocean.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I mean it could have been, but who knows, I mean
anything, or it could have beensomething else.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
But I will tell you what I was going to go back to.
So I went to the.
You know it was like astandalone kind of like
emergency room.
It wasn't just like the thedoctor, you know.
Like I mean it was a full likeemergency room, but it wasn't
like a big hospital anyway.
Anyway, so when I was in thereyou know nowadays everything's

(43:57):
electronic as far as like yourresults or whatever.
So like I got it popped up onmy phone like a text message
like your chart has been updated, or whatever, so then I could
see like the results.
So I didn't know any.
I can't, you know, I don't knowwhat they mean, but if you put
them into chat GPT it reads themfor you and summarizes it so I

(44:19):
had to tell you that so that youcould put your your cause.
I know how you are, you havemedical anxiety, so you can
always put your results in thereand it will put it into you
know everyday terms andsummarize it for you.
So before they even came in Iwas like okay, I think I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Well, it's funny, you mentioned that I was putting
I've had.
I have a dry cough every nowand then.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Just like that.
Yeah, and I was like okay, thisis starting to bother me, is
this your new thing since yougot your colon checked out?
It's been taken care of.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
So I said, okay, this is bothersome.
You know, my mother died fromlung cancer, so this is
concerning.
Maybe I need to go get an x-ray, which I get chest x-rays, and
I had one like four and a halfyears ago and it was clear,
everything was good.
So I put it in the chat, gpt,that you know I never have it at

(45:27):
night, never, never cough.
And and he said, oh, it soundslike acid reflux and if you're a
coffee drinker and you'redrinking a lot of coffee, you're
making it worse.
So I took and I haveprescription acid reflux

(45:50):
medicine that I don't takebecause I thought I didn't need
it, right?
So I took that, quit drinkingcoffee and it's fine.
So at least I know now I'm notI mean, I'm not saying I'm going
to quit drinking- coffee.
I'm not going to go, going toquit drinking coffee.
I wanted to know so it stopped.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
He could have coffee and then have a Tums afterwards.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
He said I usually drink coffee on an empty stomach
.
He said that's a really badidea to eat something and then
have your coffee and it willhelp.
So yeah, chat GPT, let me tellyou we used to spend the whole

(46:38):
time on vacation asking allkinds of questions.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
It is great for asking stuff like that it was so
interesting.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Like Dylan and I had a lot of fun for asking stuff
like that.
It was so interesting, dylanand I had a lot of fun.
I noticed I did not text younot one time, and that's very
unusual for me to go anywhereand not text you.
A specimen of a plant.
I did not, we used, we did it.
We used Fred on chat GPT.

(47:07):
But it was so like I neverstopped being amazed at how the
plants that grow in Hawaiiversus the plants we have in our
store.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
It's the same plants.
Are the same plants, or thesame plants and how they grow?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Completely different.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
I mean, it's so bizarre Like I never knew that a
fishtail palm that's what it'scalled right, yeah, yeah,
produces all of these beautifulberries.
Well, first it looks like beadsyeah, it's not even berries.
Then it turns to a green berry,and then it turns to these

(47:57):
really pretty purple berries.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
They're huge.
So we were reading that you caneat them but they're not good.
But birds like them, Okay.
So that was interesting.
And also the excuse me, theMonstera fruit.
Oh yeah, I did not eat any.

(48:22):
Dylan was like I'd love to findone, but I think you'd have to
be there for a few weeks andreally search for Monstera fruit
, because you have to wait untilit's literally starting to come
apart the green outer shell,but it's supposed to taste

(48:47):
something between passion fruitand pineapple.
I don't, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
I thought that was, I thoughtit was just real interesting and
I thought it was veryinteresting.
The plants that didn't thrive,that I would have thought would

(49:08):
thrive more on that island Inoticed orchids.
you don't see as many orchidsthere.
I think it's too wet.
It's the second wettest placeon earth.
Yes, that probably is too wet.
Orchids were not, as you didn'tsee those as much as you did on
Maui.
The other thing that you saw alot of but they were straight

(49:34):
from the nursery were anthuriums.
Anthuriums do not grow as well,I think, because it's too wet.
Yeah, because you know theywouldn't like it too wet either.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
But a lot of bromeliads were growing there,
but was just interesting to seethe difference.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
yeah, and the things that we sell in our store, but
there they're in nature yeah,and dylan was always amazing but
the big pothos going up thetrees, he was like, because you
know how the leaves start tosplit, yeah, and he was.
He was like no, that's, that'snot Pothos, that's uh, that's uh

(50:13):
, swiss cheese.
Or I was like that is Pothos,yeah and um.
So it was interesting to justsee.
We enjoyed all that, especiallysince you know he he wasn't
working in the stores when wewent to maui.
So he, he knows he's, he's asponge and he absorbs all that

(50:36):
information, so he knows allthose plants.
So it was fun saying, okay,what is this?
what you know it's amazing howmuch he knows Mm-hmm and the
Mimosa trees are so pretty.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Mimosa, mimosa, mimosa, yeah, mimosa.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
You know, they're bastards here.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
You know that's my most hated tree.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
They are so pretty.
It is a pretty tree, but Idon't, my mom, I don't know
where they need to be.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
My mom always loved mimosas and I've always, I've
always, hated them.
They're so messy and they popup and I think maybe I got a
spanking with the stem of onebefore.
I don't know, I'm just kiddingand you know, you know our last
house and we built that outdoorpatio and fireplace or whatever

(51:33):
and it had a huge mimosa over itand Daniel was like it's so
pretty because they're so fernlike, but then all year long I
mean there is not a time of yearit is not dropping something,
whether it's a leaf a pod aflower something.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
The flowers are so pretty yeah I mean they are.
Yeah, I don't know if that's atree that should be out on maybe
the edge of edge of your yardto see it.
You'd probably enjoy theflowers more.
I like a lot of things on theouter edge.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
When we were, like I mentioned, when we were in
Florida, daniel the last fewdays went to California to the
trial garden.
So you know he was sending,talking about plants and stuff,
but he was sending me photos andstuff like that, but he had to
leave the.
He was meeting someone.
So they were riding together,they flew into LAX and then they

(52:31):
were driving part of the waytrial guard and then they were
leaving from San Francisco, butanyway.
So he had planned out thiswhole trip or whatever, and he
was meeting people so he neededto get there at a certain time.
So he was having to leave ourcottage.
The Uber was needing to pickhim up, at like 5 am, I believe,

(52:57):
because you know it's like a45-minute thing.
Maybe it was a little earlier, Idon't know.
He had to get up at like 3,needless to say, and he was like
, oh, it'd be good.
You know, at least the morningflights are usually never
delayed.
Blah, blah, blah.
He got up that morning at threeand he was getting ready and

(53:17):
his flight was delayed by likefour hours and so he's like oh,
my gosh, this isn't going towork because I got to meet, you
know, whatever.
So, like at three in the morning, we're trying to figure out
this whole situation.
He's on the phone with Amex,blah, blah, blah.
So finally, long story short, herebooked I'm getting to this

(53:37):
because this is something thatwould happen to me and you.
He ends up canceling that wholeticket or whatever and rebooks
with Delta or whatever, becausethey had a flight all the time
lined up.
He got that booked and then,like soon as he got it booked,
like 10 minutes later, he got anotification that that one was

(53:58):
delayed by a few hours as well,and so it ended up being this
whole hot dang mess of gettingthere, but he got there.
It ended up being this wholehot dang mess of getting there,
but he got there.
It ended up working out and hegot there a couple hours later
and you know they were waitingon him and stuff like that, but
it ended up.
The reason why it was delayedis I guess there were four I

(54:21):
think is what he said four crewsfor different, you know,
airlines or whatever that weresupposed to leave in the morning
, and I guess they were allstaying at the same hotel and a
fire alarm had gone off, whichwe talked about, how we slept
through the fire alarm orwhatever.
But, since their time had beeninterrupted, it had to reset

(54:43):
their clock.
You know what I'm saying.
You know because they have tobe, their downtime.
Their downtime had gotteninterrupted by this fire alarm,
so it had reset and caused thisdelay because they didn't have
another crew to cover it.
It was a whole mess, but we gotthere and I was like that is
something.
When you were talking aboutyour flights went smooth.

(55:06):
It made me think about that.
But how we talked about weslept through the fire alarm
before.
But who would have thought thatwould have been the cause of
the delay?
Because he was on and on.
You know, I'm never on thefirst flight out, I'm usually on
the last flight out of the day.
Well, that's when it can goreally wrong, that's when it

(55:29):
gets.
Well, that's what he has said.
You know, those last flightsthat you like to take always get
delayed because it's the end ofthe day and things happen
throughout the day.
Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Well, when it gets delayed, you're stuck for an
extra day.
That's the bad thing.
Yeah, that is the bad thing.
But you know what we did thatgetting out of Hawaii, and it
was fine we were on the lastflight and he was like that on
the way back.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
He was on a red eye and flew.
I'm surprised.
Well, y'all flew throughWashington on the way back
Seattle or Seattle, and he cameback a few days early, but he
didn't leave San Francisco untillike 11.50 at night or
something and flew red-eye toAtlanta.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
It was funny.
When I was at the airport inKauai they had the agricultural
scanner set up before you go tothe airline and I was telling
the girl at the airline.
I said, gosh, it's been a longtime since I've been here, but
the last time y'all had foldingtables and you opened up

(56:38):
everybody's suitcase and wentthrough everything right there
in front of everybody.
She started laughing.
She said it has been a longtime.
I was like that's how it.
She started laughing.
She said it has been a longtime.
I was like that's how it waslast time.
I said so now y'all are allfancy, you can just put it she
said yeah, she said that tookforever and I guess it did.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Well, all right, it's time to pull this baby over.
I'm glad you survived yourhelicopter tour and we're back
from vacation.
So for us I've been saying likeon Instagram this officially
kicks off our holiday season.
For us, we're rolling into thefall season now and then
straight into Christmas season.
Next thing, you know, it'll bethe end of the year.
I mean, we got a lot to do, alot to go going on.

(57:22):
You're going to be in Atlantathis week.
So if you are listening in yourcurrent, make sure you're
following Stephen and Dylan andhave the Nested Fig app and
watch the live sales.
And of course, I'm going to bedoing some decorating and
getting some videos together forfall.
We got tons of fall and holidayarriving this week at the

(57:42):
warehouse.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
So lots of fun things to come, so I hope you will be
live, if you're listening.
We'll be live on Tuesday at 530 PM Eastern standard time and
then we'll be live on Wednesdayat 1 PM Eastern standard time.
Tuesday we're doing jewelry andon Wednesday we're doing bags,

(58:10):
and I don't know what the hellwe're doing on Thursday and
Friday.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Thursday, Friday to be determined but you can watch
this and we'll be telling youwhat's going on.
Well, glad to be back fromvacation, though I did get
rested up and ready to hit theseason.
It's fun though.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
It took me a minute, but I'm good.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
It's fun because you know for us we'll have, you know
, this couple of months whilewe're going September, october,
november, huge push.
So the next 12 weeks or so is ahuge busy time for us and then
we get to have another littlebreak or so right after the
holiday season.
But this is going to wrap it up.

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That glad to be back and I'llbe glad when we're back together
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I mean this is not seeing eachother for a long time Working on
each other.
So I'll see you, like thisweekend or sometime.
Bye, y'all, bye.
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