November 11, 2025 • 49 mins
from skin care and cold exam rooms to hot holiday trends, and choosing joy without guilt. Along the way, we debunk fresh greenery myths, map the Ralph Lauren Christmas rise, and share the only method that actually helps greens last.
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Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer
a wide range of informativetopics centered around running
small businesses, social media,and all things home and car.
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Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
You never know who's driving orwhere we're headed.
All we know is it's always a funride.
SPEAKER_00 (00:45):
Oh, look at you go.
Are you feeling fested?
That was your inner Mariah.
SPEAKER_02 (00:51):
That was my Mariah coming out.
I mean, hell, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (00:56):
I'm on it's already a big blur to me.
I know.
Um, for once in a while, uh, Idon't know how long it's been.
We're back in the studio.
Is that what we're gonna callit?
We sound so professional.
We're so jack-legged, bootleg uhpodcast.
We I don't even know what youwant.
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It's just a shit show.
But hey!
unknown (01:19):
Hey y'all!
SPEAKER_00 (01:20):
Hey, you do.
I forgot to see if I had anynotes on what's irritated me
this week, but let's start offvery today.
You went to the dermatologist.
I did.
Tell me about it because youstarted telling me about it.
You were sitting cold in a roomwith clothes on.
SPEAKER_02 (01:39):
I love my dermatologist, first of all.
So I'm just, you know, but itwas cold today.
It was just cold out.
Yeah.
And you know, you have to go inthere and strip down so she can,
you know, go over your body,which is very, very important.
If y'all aren't going to thedermatologist, you need to go at
least once a year, especially ifyou have blonde hair and blue
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eyes.
So, um, but I was cold.
Yeah, and I wanted a blanket orsomething.
I felt like I was getting readyto have a pap smear or
something.
Oh god.
I mean, it would I was naked andcold.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_00 (02:14):
Do you take your underwear off?
SPEAKER_02 (02:16):
No.
Oh, she don't check the junk.
I was like, little billy's justoh, she would have had to dug
for him today because I wascold.
I was cold up in there today.
Oh my gosh.
Um, no, but it it went well.
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Yeah.
Um, and I had what I would havesworn was skin cancer on my leg,
wasn't it?
Wasn't some kind of a of an anage spot like you had on your
face.
I know, right?
SPEAKER_00 (02:50):
But I mine was so I went, it was a it was the year
of March.
Mine started, but I was kind ofgot nervous because it started
getting big kind of rapidly.
It was there for a long time,but mine started as a pimple, I
remember it, and then I messedwith it too much.
It was almost like a pimple butingrown hair, and I think that
caused um scar tissue, but thenit started growing.
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She was, but she acted like, ohyeah, that's just some old spot
and cut it off or whatever.
SPEAKER_02 (03:18):
Yeah, I think we get at a certain age.
I just think we're like an oldship.
We just start getting barnaclesgrowing on.
Exactly.
And I'm some of my decide I needto do it.
I'm not here for it.
Do it.
Oh, skin tags?
SPEAKER_00 (03:32):
I can remove those for you.
No, you remember my skin tag.
Did I know you when I had theskin tag on my back?
Oh my gosh, I finally cut it offmyself because I was too nervous
to go to the I take, I removeall of mine.
I was too nervous to go to thedermatologist.
I'd never been until like a yearand a half ago at all.
Oh, I have a method, it worksbeautifully.
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And so I forgot what I did, butI had one and it got decently,
it was like a pet tick backthere, suckering on.
But it was right at my pantsline, and I would get nervous
like it was gonna catch on it orsomething.
Or if I bent down and my shirtcame up, there it was gonna be
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like flapping in the wind andhanging out.
So I finally I cut it off myselfwith sharp, like, you know, the
really thin, sharp scissors,like manicure scissors.
I don't even know what you usethem for, like grooming
scissors.
But it, you know, it was harderthan I thought, and I had to
like chop through it a fewtimes, and then it bleeds.
Well, I have a way of doing it.
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We're getting more personal andmore personal in this podcast
than you ever thought you wantedto hear about us, but that
that's it.
I don't have any skin tags rightnow, I don't think.
But what's your method?
Tell me your method of doing it.
SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
I actually pinch them with my fingers really
flat, as hard as I can, and thenI twist.
No.
And twist.
No.
And twist and then I leave it.
And they turn dark and fallaway.
That's it.
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That it's not even a big deal.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Oh, God, that sounds so because I feel like they're
sensitive at the base whereverthey are.
I mean, you know, they're not,but uh let's move the hell on.
Um, well, I'm glad you wentthere.
Did you have any, you know, onyour face?
You've had little skin cancerson your face before, right?
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
Yeah, my and my arms.
SPEAKER_00 (05:34):
Um you have any this time you gotta get?
SPEAKER_02 (05:37):
Yeah.
One here, one three, one uphere, on your forehead.
On my forehead, one here, onehere.
On the cheek and one on thenose.
SPEAKER_00 (05:45):
Okay.
Um, are you what do you gottado?
Get them frozen off, scrapedout.
SPEAKER_02 (05:51):
Okay.
Yeah.
She was like, Oh, you're gonnabe scabby for two weeks.
Do you want to wait till afterthe holiday?
SPEAKER_03 (05:58):
And I'm like, No, no, let's go ahead and do it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:01):
I'll still be pretty.
That's funny.
That is too funny.
So we are in the middle of theholiday season, if you don't
know.
I mean, if you follow us at all,then you know, but you probably
don't really know.
But we are in the thick of it.
And tonight, um, so you willhave already missed this.
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We're doing a live sale in thenested fig app at my home.
So if you missed it, you can goback and watch the live replay.
So if you don't have the nestedfig app yet, download the nested
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Just search the nested fig.
How many times can I say that?
Search the nested fig in yourapp store and you can find us
and you can watch the replaysand continue to shop there as
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well.
But I wanted to hit onsomething.
I think I wanted to give myself,you and myself kudos that I
forgot to talk about last week.
And and that is if you're onsocial media at all and looking
at Christmas and getting in theChristmas sphere, I know Steven
and I are ahead of time becauseit's the industry we're in.
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Most people, I feel like, don'tdecorate until after
Thanksgiving, which is normal.
Do you?
I like this.
SPEAKER_02 (07:11):
If you love Christmas, if you love
Christmas, if you love theholidays, don't go into retail.
Yeah, sure.
Don't because it it ruins itforever.
SPEAKER_00 (07:20):
But what is every the buzz, the buzzword on social
media for Christmas is RalphLauren Christmas.
Everyone's calling it RalphLauren Christmas, which I
totally get.
Uh, and then, like someone said,well, really, Ralph Lauren or
Lauren.
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It's Lauren.
Yeah.
Christmas is just a very wellput together traditional
Christmas.
It's not really like that.
But when you say Ralph LaurenChristmas, you can picture what
that looks like.
But what I was wanting tomention, and I wish we could go
back and dig this up, but wecan't because I ain't got the
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time.
You and I called this as beingthe trend two years ago.
And I was actually surprised.
We even said, so at Christmas2023, you and I said, we're
gonna lean more into forChristmas 2024, the Ralph
Lauren, Lauren.
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Lauren is Lauren.
Lauren, look.
Um, and we did a little bit, butwhen we went to market, we were
kind of like, I'm surprised wedidn't see more of that.
And so that was for lastChristmas.
And then this Christmas, when wewere buying, we're like, okay,
we're seeing more of it.
But I didn't really feel likeanyone was talking about it like
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public-wise.
Like you and I were like, thisis where we're going.
You know, this is what peopleare gonna be into.
And then it just this month,it's blown up.
You're hearing it.
We called it though.
That's what I'm saying.
We called it before any damnbody years ago.
I'm suing somebody.
I don't know who.
You can't, but I just love whenwe, you know, this is a good
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thing and a bad thing withSteven and I.
Um, we tend to try to pick up ontrends, and I feel like we're
really good and in tune with itmost of the time.
But sometimes like this, we werea little early.
We end up being a little early alot of times, is my point.
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Even at the retail stores withstuff, uh, you know, back when,
for example, when we openedRoots back in 2009, I started
out, I was like, oh, terrariumsand glass planters are the cool
thing.
And people loved it, but it Iwas like, what in the hell are
you doing?
SPEAKER_02 (09:46):
This beer you bring it back 1983.
SPEAKER_00 (09:49):
Then when I was tired of it, like a year and a
half later, it was the craze,and we had to keep it going for
like another two years, andthat's kind of like this.
Like last year, I was ready forthis big Ralph Warren like look,
and now it's here, and I'm kindof like, oh, well, that's been
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in my brain for two Christmases.
SPEAKER_02 (10:12):
I know, but here's the thing which is always that
Ralph Warren look is kind ofalways my look.
Right.
So it is happy.
I'm just happy that I'm on trendright now.
Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_00 (10:24):
But I mean, I'll be off trend soon enough.
Right.
And that's the thing we'vetalked about with Christmas in
the past when coming back frommarket and the trends.
Christmas is Christmas.
You can do whatever trend, ifthat's what you want to call it,
anytime that you want.
It it doesn't matter.
Like if you want to dogingerbread right now, do
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gingerbread.
And if you want to do pink andbright colors, do that.
It's Christmas, it's best.
SPEAKER_02 (10:50):
I think Nate Burkis said it best, but is talking
about trends.
He said, just buy what you love,right?
And don't focus on the trends,and you'll always be happy.
SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
Right.
And that's true.
That's my point, is you'vealways done this sort of thing.
That's always a hot zone is aRaf Lauren, a moody um colors
and more natural.
And it never looks out.
SPEAKER_02 (11:19):
No, that's what I'm saying.
It's just uh more on trend nowthan ever, even with the antique
mixing antiques in with morecontemporary.
Right.
It's just really hot right now.
But it's never, you never walkedinto my house and went, right.
No, well, I don't think maybesomebody did.
SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
Probably somebody.
No.
But that's okay.
Um, but I just thought that waskind of fun.
Just talking about we spottedthat, that it was going in that
that direction.
Um, and there's different waysyou can get that look.
Like yours is gonna be very, andby the way, if you want to see
Steven's home, we're gonna do alive sale from there this coming
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Sunday, which would be the 14th,15th, 16th of November, November
16th, 8 p.m.
Eastern, inside the Nesty FigOut.
We're gonna tour his home.
Uh and you'll get to shop thatas well.
But yours is very, even thoughit's Ralph Lauren look, it's
still got a little natural twistto it and more like greens and
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earthy.
It's not as um bright red plaid.
So you can take it and kind ofgo that way.
SPEAKER_02 (12:35):
I typically never do bright red.
Um always.
Yeah, and I like bright red,like I love your tree.
I think it's the prettiest treeI've ever seen.
You do.
I love it, but I've always donemore of an oxblood red or a
burgundy.
Right.
Um, I don't know why, justbecause.
SPEAKER_00 (12:58):
So yeah, but the and I love those colors too, but I
always here at our home, sincewe have it's alabastered the
grape room, I just feel likethat's the tone, the brighter
red.
And I have little some burgundy,but not the oxblood wine like
you like to use.
But I just feel like thatmatches the tone of the red.
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It does.
I don't know, and it makes sensepop.
SPEAKER_02 (13:21):
But I love what you do, and you know, everyone has
different homes, and they candesign what looks really good in
the I feel a little bit likeMartha Stewart at Turkey Hill
right now, but not in a bad way.
Yeah.
Mossy and pine cone andhonestly, that's what I love.
Yeah, it's I mean, I I love alook like you're in a
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200-year-old cabin in the middleof nowhere.
SPEAKER_00 (13:45):
That's the look.
That's that's your soul.
You need a 200-year-old cabin inthe middle of the woods.
Um, speaking of that, I do havekind of a like, um, I guess you
it's not an it's not an ick.
It's more of a PSA, I guess.
So start talking about Christmasand decorating.
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I feel like it's early enough.
If you are, because I've seenthis going around on social
media a little bit.
If you're gonna use naturalgarland or natural cut greens,
I'm seeing this soak it in yourtub and it'll last all season
type thing.
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We just love giving things somebaths in the holiday season
everything.
We just love it.
So, okay, so I'm gonna breakthis down for you.
Well, first of all, the stuff iscut and it is on its way out to
death.
There ain't no stopping it.
But there is some things to it.
You can maybe soak it andrehydrate it if it's maybe
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feeling slightly dry, it wouldstill have to be fresh enough
for it to absorb the water.
SPEAKER_02 (15:00):
If it's fresh, get me correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm trying to remember.
But if it's fresh from the farm,you can soak it and put it in
something that kind of seals thecut places.
That's what I was gonna say.
The whole, is that right?
SPEAKER_00 (15:13):
Yes, you can.
So the thing is, unless you'rereally going out and cutting
this yourself or getting it froma farm where you know it's super
too late, baby.
SPEAKER_02 (15:23):
Now it's too late.
Right.
Your shit's gonna die.
SPEAKER_00 (15:27):
It's true.
You're gonna let it dry inplace.
But um, unless you know it'sfresh, because let me tell you,
we've sold thousands of wreaths.
We used to sell thousands or acouple of thousand in the
holiday season.
Um, we used to set up a big tentat the garden shop, and we had
our little elves out thereworking.
That's what Daniel did for solong.
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But so I've seen it all, I'vebeen to the farms.
They start cutting like yourChristmas tree has already been
cut.
They start cutting likeHalloween.
Yeah.
Like they're already cutting andshipping, they're already being
transported.
Now they'll store them incoolers and that sort of thing.
But even though they're incoolers, that's keeping them
kind of like fresh, like aflower would.
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But as soon as you pull themout, they're starting the drying
out process.
Um, but my thing is okay, soyes, you can hydrate your
greenery in a tub and try to getit to absorb water.
The thing is, it is likeanything else, let's just use a
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sponge, for example, it can onlyabsorb so much water when you
soak it.
It doesn't matter if you soak it10 hours, 20 hours, one hour.
It's going to absorb what it canand that's it.
And then as soon as you pullthat out of the tub, it is going
to start immediately drying outagain.
So by doing all of that work ofjust dunking it or floating it
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or sitting it in a tub of water,is only helping you for maybe a
day or two because it's justgonna dry right back out.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like taking a sponge out ofwater, laying it on your kitchen
counter and it drying outovernight.
It's gonna do the same thingevery three days, but who the
hell is going to be a little bitmore?
What are you gonna do?
Take your garland down.
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Exactly.
So when you're seeing that soakyour garland and it will last
all season, no, it's really notgoing to.
Maybe a day.
You're gonna, it's gonna make itmaybe, yeah, like a day or two
difference than it would if youdidn't do anything at all.
So why do the work?
Now, back to what Steven wassaying, there is a product and
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there's different brands, butsomething like no wilt or wilt
proof, wilt proof, I think isthe one we use, uh, that you can
add into the water.
Do not do this in your tubinside.
Do not do this in your tubinside.
Um, but if you cut really freshgreenery that is hydrated, so
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it's just off the bush, you cansoak it in a solution which is
water, and you would add this umwilt proof to it.
And basically you soak it inthere, and it's almost like um
uh Elmer's glue kind of solutionin your water.
And what it does is it uh sealsit seals up all the pores, all
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the cuts and everything, andthat traps all the moisture into
your garlic.
Now it does work, your wreath.
And yes, that does help becauseit helps it when it gets hot,
keeps it from perspiring, so itkeeps it all trapped in.
And that really does make adifference.
The best thing to use is akiddie pool.
Yes, that's what we used to useis a kiddie pool, like a plastic
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kiddie pool.
We'd always go at the end of thesummer and be like, make sure we
got our kiddie pool, so that atChristmas time we could um, you
know, when those hard formedkiddie pools we could dunk our
wreaths in.
Now, the other thing is if youdo want to do this solution
because you're just love doingfresh greens, which I love doing
fresh greens too, and I'll tuckthem in like, you know, after
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Thanksgiving when I only wantthem to last a couple of weeks
or whatever.
But if you're gonna do this,make sure you are using the
dunking method because it willsay on the bottle, like you can
put it in like a pump-up sprayeror a spray bottle, but that
doesn't, it really doesn't, it'snot enough.
You can't spray all the cuts andall the pores and everything to
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make a difference because itreally needs to be dunked and
that seals and wraps around youknow everything.
SPEAKER_02 (19:33):
And one thing, if you're gonna use greens inside,
and I love, love, love freshgreens, um, and I do the same,
you know, when it gets afterThanksgiving, I usually bring
some home from the garden store.
Right.
Smell of your fresh greens, ifsomething bothers you, do not
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bring it in.
It's going to get stronger inyour home as it does dry out.
And last year I brought in, I'dnever done this before.
I brought in a green, I don'tremember what it is.
You told me what it was.
I don't even remember this.
It drove me insane.
It smelled like cat pee.
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Was it boxwood?
No, it was not, it was somethingelse.
You said it was um I can'tremember.
It was one of the evergreens.
Oh my god.
And I they were beautiful.
I brought fresh wreaths and putthem inside in my foyer, and
they were really pretty.
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And I was like, oh, it'd smelllike a tree.
It'd be great.
Oh my god.
It drove me.
I could not wait to throw thosethings away.
Yeah.
Nothing cut it either.
And I was like, what is this?
Like, what is it?
And it was the it was it was theevergreen.
So just smell of it.
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And if you're like, oh, I lovethis smell, you're fine.
Yeah.
But if there's something, a mixthat is in there.
SPEAKER_00 (21:04):
Yeah, because when you take it in your home and you
have the heat on it, yeah, andyou have the heat on that's
gonna, you know, make it thearoma smell stronger.
Yeah.
So that's my Christmas PS.
Are we doing worsh workshopsthis year?
Uh I meant to ask you that.
We need to.
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It's uh it's on the plan, butwe're getting we need like we're
it's gotta happen this week.
Yeah, I gotta call tomorrow andsee if we can make that happen.
Yeah, we had planned to dowreath workshops.
We're having a little businessmeeting right here.
Hold pause a moment now.
We had um planned to do wreathworkshops, but I haven't um
verified that.
But we would have to have themin like three weeks, so we be
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the week after Thanksgivingwould be like three weeks.
So I think it's doable.
We could do like two.
Yeah, let's just do two nights.
Back into it and do two nights.
We were gonna do a whole week.
We were overzealous back in umAugust when it was slower and
not as much going on.
But now every day keeps sleepslipping away.
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So I'm like, I don't know if wecan do a whole week of
workshops, but we'll um I thinkwe should do stuff.
We have the stuff for it andeverything.
So maybe do two workshops andthen um, you know, because we
got to do live sales and all thefun.
But I do love the wreathworkshops.
SPEAKER_02 (22:23):
Uh yeah, I kind of miss them.
They may we may bring them backand I might decide I don't.
Um, but if if that's the case,we won't do them anymore.
That's right.
That is true.
Uh, but it is fun, and it is funto see what people do.
Um, you know, because peoplethink outside, and some people
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really do good, some people notso much.
Yeah, it's and I always tellthem I'm like, if your shit's
ugly, do not tag us.
SPEAKER_00 (22:52):
Yeah, we do.
You know, you know if your shitis ugly, and it's been so we
stopped doing wreath workshopswith COVID, so 2020.
And and then we moved, like, youknow, we couldn't do them 2020,
2021, it was weird.
Then we moved the garden shopand it was smaller, so we're
like done with workshops orwhatever.
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And um and then we thought,we'll do it at the top house.
Yeah, but how much social mediahas changed since 2020?
Because we used to always joke,don't go home and tag us if you
don't do the work here at theworkshop and make a gorgeous
wreath, as we've instructed andguided you.
Because some of the ladies, theyjust want to come in and have a
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little wine time and get drunk,and they'll just throw a little
something, something in theirwreath and be like, I'm done.
And I'm like, that is fine, butdon't go tagging us on your
wreath and say, Look what I gotat you know, the nested fit
garden.
You tagging and say, Look what Idid.
Yeah, look what I did.
I had I got drunk and made this.
SPEAKER_02 (23:55):
Don't put it off on the because I will call your ass
out.
I'm like, mm-mm.
You got drunk and crawled on thefloor and did that.
We used to have some good timesat those workshops because
people, it is crazy how they'llbut you know, as the season get
went would go, it got and Iwould get tired and and more
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tired and more tired at the end.
I'm like, that's when I waslike, uh, don't tag us.
You know that ain't right.
But they it you know, it's justfun though.
SPEAKER_00 (24:29):
Wine and design, wreathshops.
Yeah, it is it is a lot of fun.
But what I was gonna say is it'salso fun to see everyone
starting with the same, youknow, they had the same material
options and um and then how eachwreath looked different.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
And some were really good.
I mean, didn't you need a job?
Come on, yeah, it was impressiveuh a lot of times, and I also
really loved like some of thecolor combinations they came up
with, stuff that I reallywouldn't have thought about
doing that was really cool.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:08):
There were more good than bad.
That was the good, yeah, therewere more good than bad.
What did get irritating at theend though?
I'm gonna call some of y'all outbecause y'all might be our
customers, and it was kind ofgood to have a break for this
reason.
Well, we we were too nice.
But so the wreath workshop, youwould start with a plain fresh
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wreath.
We did fresh fur wreaths, andthen in the buckets, we would
have buckets or boxes or bins.
We would have like cryptomeria,magnolia, boxwood, um, pine,
pine, whatever greens, and youfresh also, and those were
included in the workshop.
So your wreath and all of thefresh materials, and we had
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wine, was all included in yourwreath workshop.
But then you could shop thestore and add in if you wanted
like fairy picks, like fauxberry picks, or maybe you know,
fun ornament picks, or asnowman, or if you wanted us to
make a bow and that sort ofthing, you that was extra.
That was add-on to your wreath.
I know what you're gonna do.
(26:13):
Some of those all heifers, theystarted bringing their stuff
back from the year before.
SPEAKER_02 (26:18):
With glue stuck on it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:20):
Stuck on it.
SPEAKER_02 (26:21):
Don't do that.
SPEAKER_00 (26:22):
Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_02 (26:23):
That's a DIY at home.
SPEAKER_00 (26:25):
Yeah, come by the wreath at home and you already
got the stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (26:28):
You got your shit.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
We're here to sell you something.
Yeah, and make something new andcreative.
Some of this stuff by the end,because we started doing these
in 2009.
I mean, they were bringing backthe same stuff for like seven or
eight years.
And I was like, you cannot dipthis in any more glue.
That shit looked like they haddone stole it out of somebody's
(26:50):
wreath.
No.
Come in with their ziplop bagsof all their well, you know, I
would tell them like, what areyou what are you doing with
this?
The good thing is some of themwould bring it, like, not the
ones that would bring it yearafter year.
I knew after like three years, Iknew the ones that were gonna
bring it year after year.
But some of them be like, Oh, Ibrought my stuff back from last
(27:11):
year, and then they would getthere and see everyone else's,
and they'll be like, I can't usethis.
And I'm like, You're right, atleast you read the room.
SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
So I stopped by, I had a little minute to kill
waiting on you today.
And um, so I walked through.
SPEAKER_00 (27:27):
Did you say it like that?
I was working.
SPEAKER_02 (27:29):
I know, I'm kidding, and I saw this wreath, and I
almost got it.
Yeah.
You may go back and get it.
Yeah.
But it was someone had handmadeit and they had taken all of the
vintage ornaments, all thedifferent ones, and just some
random stuff and put in it.
(27:49):
Oh, it sounds like it's thoseare so cool.
It was expensive, but it it'slike this thick, and it's
probably just covered in justvintage ornaments.
Yeah, and then it would haverandom.
Oh, it was so cool.
I mean, that would look cool.
SPEAKER_00 (28:06):
With your Christopher Radco collection
that you're building up.
How big was it?
SPEAKER_02 (28:12):
It it like uh 27, 28.
You might could hang it like onyour hutch by your tree next to
you.
It was it's really cool.
I think you need to treatyourself.
Yeah, I'm thinking I need it.
It's really pretty, and I thinkit was there last year, and I
was eyeing it, or maybe theymade a different one because I
(28:34):
remember it having a little dot.
The last one last year had somekind of little doll in it.
Yeah, this one didn't have it,but it's really fun.
It's nice being in the retailbusiness when you can go
somewhere and see somethingexciting or that I want to buy,
yeah.
Because you know, if listen, weare in the business, we've been
(28:55):
in this so long, we know whereeverything comes from.
So if we go shopping, we'relike, oh yeah, we know where to
get that, and it kind of ruinsit for us.
Like there's no shopping, itdoes, but but if it's something
special and made, yeah, thatstands out.
SPEAKER_00 (29:15):
It does kind of ruin it, but because you said that a
couple of times, but thetrade-off is it's more fun on
the other side.
Like I love going to market andshopping for everything.
SPEAKER_02 (29:27):
So we create the trends for our trading area,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (29:31):
And it's so it's more fun to go hunt.
We we do our shopping and thrillof shopping at different times
and on a different level.
Like we go shop for Christmas inJanuary.
So, like, literally in twomonths.
Wait, where are we?
We're um November 10th.
Literally in two months, eightweeks, we will be at the Atlanta
(29:55):
market shopping for Christmas2026.
Yep.
Kind of makes you want to pukewhen you say that out loud.
But that's it's good becauseit's fresh.
SPEAKER_02 (30:04):
And we've in and what you don't realize is um we
we really, really analyze ourbuying, what we did, what we did
well, what we could have donebetter, what we just flat out
did wrong.
We do that every year.
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (30:23):
We're already making notes like ah we could have used
a little more of this, or wemissed the boat on not buying
this, or you know, that sort ofthing.
SPEAKER_02 (30:33):
We gotta keep it, we got to make it better and better
and better.
Fine-tune it and different.
Yeah.
And sometimes it's just makingum, I don't think this quote
unquote Ralph Lauren look isgoing any going away anything.
SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
No, I think it's gonna be the trend for the next
few years.
There'll be different variationsof it, just like anything, they
go in trends, like it'll be morelike your color this year.
If you again watch the live orfollow Steven on Instagram, it's
gonna be like green on greenwith some of the brown with a
little bit of burgundy in there.
SPEAKER_02 (31:10):
It'll be that look, and then they'll add gold into
it, and then it is then you'llsee some vintage ornaments added
into that look, and you'll seejust dip some glitzy gold added
into that.
It's gonna be variations of thesame.
SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
Yeah.
And then because we've been in,if you think about it, for the
last maybe the last two reallylast year was the big
transition, but the last two,but before that, for like five
years, everything was glitterand bright, and you would have
the pink.
Not that you still don't havethe pink, that's still a thing,
(31:46):
but it was a very glitzy,glittery look, and now it's
swinging, it's gonna be more andmore natural, more and more
velvet, tone on the colour.
SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
What has never flown in Greenville?
Ever what?
Is the hand spun type, the thefelt, no, the handmade looks
like does that go anywhere?
SPEAKER_00 (32:08):
I see it, but I never see it.
It just somewhere.
I see it at market, but I neversee it in actual life, like the
home.
SPEAKER_02 (32:17):
The felted ornaments, yeah, and it just
does not sell.
Yeah, I don't know.
You know, there's stuff thatlooks like you did in vacation
Bible school.
SPEAKER_03 (32:26):
Yes, I know.
SPEAKER_02 (32:27):
I'm not knocking it, no, but I'm seeing because we
all have those ornaments we madein vacation Bible school and
stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00 (32:34):
And one of our big vendors has sold felt ornaments
every year for years.
And I'm like, Who buys them?
Who buys them?
I've never seen them out andabout, so there must be a
market, a submarket somewhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Maybe I don't know if that's aWest Coast thing.
Is it a mountain thing?
Or is it a mountain thing?
SPEAKER_02 (32:54):
Tourist mountain.
SPEAKER_00 (32:55):
Yeah, I don't know what I mean.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
I think I could see that being sold in a Christmas
shop in Pigeon Forge.
SPEAKER_00 (33:02):
Yeah, but but then the people, the general public,
mix that in with their regulardecor.
SPEAKER_02 (33:09):
I don't know about that.
I mean, we should just go aroundand be like, we're here to
inspect your Christmas.
SPEAKER_03 (33:16):
We should do that.
SPEAKER_02 (33:18):
Hello, we're here to just inspect your Christmas tree
if you don't mind.
We'll be in and out in less than10 minutes.
SPEAKER_00 (33:24):
And we're gonna take pictures.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
That would be fun.
SPEAKER_02 (33:27):
Wouldn't that be fun?
So funny.
Okay, let's do this street.
Yeah.
Just not Christmas treeinspectors.
SPEAKER_00 (33:37):
We're gonna be like oh hell, you need a you need a
complete tear down.
We have a we have prizes for thebest tree on the street and the
worst tree on the street.
Oh my goodness, it is funny.
Do we need to have any type oflittle um therapy session this
week?
I feel like we did really goodlast week talking about your
(33:59):
kitchen and you know, I feellike we need to not, we can't
get too far away from, you know,Steven feels the need to defend
himself for not using somethingthat that he has.
He he tried to do it the otherday on his TV that he really
doesn't use in the the livingroom.
I was on the phone with Dylanand he said, or was on the
(34:22):
phone, I was somewhere.
Dylan was there.
I think we were I had you onspeaker.
And Dylan was said somethingabout oh, the TV we don't ever
use, and Steven, yes, we do.
We use that TV, and we'reDylan's like, no, we use the
bedroom TV.
SPEAKER_02 (34:37):
You know, it is it there's some there there's there
was serious trauma in mychildhood that made that I feel
a level of guilt.
Yeah, because you know, and Ifeel I did it when we got when I
got here tonight.
I said, you know, um my car'sgoing in for service on Friday,
(34:59):
and uh I'm not getting me a newcar, but it is time for Dylan to
get a new car.
Um, I mean, it yeah, it is time,and I don't have a problem with
that.
But I told Wesley, I said, youknow, I'm thinking about getting
that really big Lexus SUV.
Um, and I may keep it, I maydrive it or I may give that to
(35:23):
Dylan.
I don't know.
But I'm like, you know, thatwould that would last like 15,
20 years.
SPEAKER_00 (35:29):
Yeah, yeah.
And I said, the hell, the hell,you gonna drive a car for 10,
15, 20 years.
You ain't gonna do that.
You always gotta justify or feeljust I love new, but I don't
like paying for new.
Well, I know, I know.
I don't like paying.
(35:51):
I get that, but my point isdon't don't justify.
Just say, I do justify every Ido.
SPEAKER_02 (36:02):
It's just um I I don't know.
I that when uh you were sorudely analyzing me.
SPEAKER_00 (36:10):
No, we had a great podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (36:13):
Um I honestly think it it is tri it's all from my
it's trauma from my childhood.
My my my mom's parents were veryum focused on not wasting and
you save every penny.
Yeah.
And if you spend it, you feelguilty.
SPEAKER_00 (36:36):
No, you don't feel guilty.
See, my thing is can you notflip that into feeling like a
reward?
Like, oh my gosh, I worked hardand have made myself successful
enough that I can buy whateverit is, and it should be.
And not feel guilty about it.
You should feel like, oh mygosh, look what I accomplished.
(36:57):
Look at Miko.
SPEAKER_01 (36:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:59):
But because, like we said, everyone's level of
success is different and whatthey want to do with their
success.
So, like if you want to have 10cars, that's your comical cars,
it then enjoy them.
SPEAKER_02 (37:15):
It's sad and comical at the same time because you
know, my grandparents did very,very well for themselves and
they worked very, very hard.
And they um, you know, they wereable to save a small fortune,
especially, you know, forcountry people.
Right.
(37:36):
And but they did without things,like little thing, like little
things, they always kept theyhad a beautiful home and they
kept a new car, but they wouldsay, Oh, we don't need to buy
that rug.
Yeah, or that one's fine.
Yeah, or they would really wantsomething new, but they don't
get it, and then they die andleave all of this money in my
(38:04):
lazy ass cousin and aunt.
I mean, they're taking the moneyand they're driving Mercedes
like they earned it, they'reenjoying it.
Yeah, they're buying newMercedes like they earned it.
Right.
And they ain't earned a damnthing.
SPEAKER_00 (38:21):
But that's why your grandparents should have enjoyed
it.
They should have enjoyed it.
Because why do all that work fornothing?
You're right.
SPEAKER_02 (38:28):
I know.
I'm saying logically, I saw thatwith my own.
SPEAKER_00 (38:32):
Me personally, if I am going to be that way and do
without, and like we don't needanything, then I'm gonna live at
that level and work at thatlevel.
Yeah, that's true.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, if I'm comfortable enoughto be like, I can do without all
this stuff, I'm gonna livesimply, I'm gonna work simply,
I'm gonna work to pay the billsor need to be paid or not for
(38:55):
times and be happy.
That would be, I could see that.
But why work yourself to deathand accumulate this stuff and
not enjoy it, and not enjoy it.
SPEAKER_02 (39:05):
Well, and it was honestly, it was a big turning
point in my life.
If you look back at my at myhabits, um, I changed a lot
after my mother died because Ithought, you know, when you lose
your parent, when you lose oneparent, um, that's when your own
mortality slaps you in the face.
(39:27):
And you're like, oh shit.
Right.
My you know, I'm not gonna liveforever.
Right.
Yeah.
And um, you know, that that camethat slapped me in the face.
And then when I saw what myfamily did, my grandparents
away.
Yeah, with my grandparents thatworked so hard.
(39:50):
I mean, most of the estate wasstolen from me, basically.
But what what small amount I didget, you know, I don't look at
that as a pivotance of of myinheritance.
(40:10):
I look at it as I know how hardmy grandparents worked even for
that.
Right.
And I have so much respect forthem and their hard work.
Right.
You know, personally, I wouldnever ever use their money, that
inheritance.
This may sound crazy too.
I would never use that to go buyMercedes because that would have
(40:34):
disrespected.
I know what they would havethought of it.
Right, right.
And I would rather do somethinglike put that in an investment
property or something moresubstantial.
Right.
But it's interesting people thathaven't made the choices to be
(40:54):
more successful in life.
Right.
Because they it was a choicewith my family.
Yeah, they made choices, right?
And um, so they never made um acrazy good living.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
But they got that, and we're just like, hell yeah,
we're gonna go get us a damnMercedes.
We're gonna get us a Mercedes.
SPEAKER_00 (41:19):
Oh my gosh, that's so crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (41:20):
It's funny though.
SPEAKER_00 (41:21):
I do think though, but my grandparents should have
been enjoying that.
Yes, they that's my point.
And you should be enjoying yourmoney in the time.
Right now, not that you shouldfrivolously spend your money and
not have any to live on later,but that you know what you can
afford and spend your money on.
(41:43):
So when you do, you just need toenjoy it and not justify it and
not beat yourself, oh, he hasbuyer's remorse remorse for
everything.
I'm surprised I've never taken acar back.
I am too.
I but I do think here's what Ithink, here's my new thing.
What I think you and Dylan, atsome point, not like this year,
(42:06):
but y'all need to build a house.
Y'all need to build a house.
And when you do, you need twokitchens.
You need one on the back, justlike off to the side, that is an
actual working kitchen thatDylan can cook in whenever he
wants.
And then you need one that'slike your your main kitchen, no,
(42:28):
your party kitchen.
SPEAKER_02 (42:29):
No, when okay, so when I grew up, this is what we
everybody needs this.
I ain't lying.
My my grandparents and my aunt,my aunts, my aunts about the age
of most people's grandparents.
Um, but we grew up with likeoutdoor kitchens.
(42:52):
Yeah.
And I know that sounds weird,but like my grandparents had
theirs was not fancy, it wasjust um a wood house in the back
that had uh old reclaimedwindows.
It was really cute.
Yeah.
And it had a wood stove and asink.
(43:13):
What you needed, yeah, the theminimal.
And that's where my grandmotherwould can.
SPEAKER_03 (43:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (43:20):
Because it was out of the house, it didn't stink up
the house.
Get her stuff together.
She would also cook down um thethe hog fat to pour up the lard
and that.
Yeah.
And my aunt had a nicer, she hada big, a big outdoor kitchen,
big, big, but it was just aseparate kitchen, and that was
(43:43):
for um canning and well, that'swhat y'all need in your house
that you're gonna build.
SPEAKER_00 (43:48):
I decided.
It can just, you know, have theessentials nicely.
I must make it like a commercialkitchen, is what I picture.
Lots of tile, stainless steelsink.
Well, what's nice?
SPEAKER_02 (44:02):
And then in your house, you have your fancy with
your li poo-poo oven and but youcan have out there, you can put
you can put a wood burningstove, well, you ain't doing
freezers.
SPEAKER_00 (44:13):
I'm just saying if you're wood burning stuff.
But if you wanted to go back,I'm just saying where he can
cook and it can smell and youknow it's fish and just stink it
up.
Yeah, I think you should make itlike a commercial kitchen with
big exhaust and everything, andso Dylan can cook in there and
(44:35):
not get reprobate.
Well, but he could just cookdinner.
It won't he can cook as long asI'm not there and it doesn't
smell.
Well, you can't burn dumplings,and you can't cook anything with
the spice, you can't do anythingthat smells like broccoli or
(44:57):
see, you can't do anything thathas a scent, has oil, or could
possibly burn like shit or fish.
SPEAKER_02 (45:12):
So sorry.
SPEAKER_00 (45:15):
That's why you need a separate kitchen.
So, you know, we live Dylan, getout back.
It needs to be connected to thehouse, but it just needs to be
off to the side, completelysealed, very clean, something
you could just hose down thewhole thing or whatever, and
that's where Dylan can cook youdinner.
So, one of my pet peeps, I loveliving in the mill.
SPEAKER_02 (45:36):
I do.
Um, obviously, it's worked.
I've been been there like nineand a half years.
So I do like it.
But but but but but well,there's a butt to everything.
There is a but to everything.
The one of my little irritants,and there's nothing you can do
about it.
Our our loft always smellsdelicious because it's clean and
(45:59):
candles are burning and it'sit's like a showroom.
SPEAKER_00 (46:03):
Yes, but unfunctional, non-functional.
SPEAKER_02 (46:07):
People cook some nasty shit, and you can smell it
all in the hallway.
In the hallway.
I'm like, ooh, they've cookedshrimp.
I I know certain things thatthey've cooked Brussels sprouts,
shrimp, and broccoli.
SPEAKER_00 (46:22):
When you have that many people at dinner time,
there's a lot of mixes.
I've been there before and I'mlike, Thanksgiving is horrible.
SPEAKER_02 (46:33):
Thank God.
Here's what I'm thankful for.
I smell nothing inside inside.
Oh, you would be.
Well, you would be out of there.
Be gone.
I'd be gone.
It's you call me gone.
You would be gone.
No, I would be, I wouldn't bethere.
But no, you can't smell anythinginside.
(46:53):
But you can walk by somebody'sdoor and I'm like, damn.
SPEAKER_00 (46:57):
Yeah.
How's it going?
We got to wrap this up becausewe got to get a live sale.
But one more question moving on.
How's it going since the fire atthe loft and the cleanup?
Can you could you ever smellsmoke like in the in there?
SPEAKER_02 (47:11):
We didn't um knock on wood.
We had nothing, no negative.
It's everything is kind of underconstruction.
It's quite uh a lot of sheetrockdust.
Uh so I just keep towels down.
SPEAKER_00 (47:25):
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
What did you post a picture?
Or no, you were showing mesomething had gotten delivered,
and it was like the FedExpicture, like you know, they
snapped when they delivered it,and I was like, what is at your
door?
And you're like, oh, I keep atowel at your door, cut out all
of it.
So no dust comes in under yourdoor.
So you are so cut it out.
(47:46):
You are so weird.
SPEAKER_02 (47:48):
Well, we used to have, you know, in a good weird
well, that's the I mean, I'm I'mcertifiable nut job, but it's
okay.
I could be worse.
It's true.
SPEAKER_00 (48:00):
All right, we gotta pull this baby over.
We're going to work, we're gonnastart seconds.
SPEAKER_02 (48:03):
Well, damn, Heat.
You give me a completely sockevaluation, take my inventory,
and you're like, okay, Bango.
SPEAKER_00 (48:11):
I feel like this is maybe we're working through it
with some of our listeners too.
Maybe they're going, hell yeah,I need to appreciate and not
feel guilty for what.
SPEAKER_02 (48:20):
Just go out and waste all your money, is what
he's saying.
That is not just waste it all.
SPEAKER_00 (48:25):
That is not what I say.
And be very vulgar about it.
Enjoy it.
Enjoy it when you can afford it.
Burn through it when you haveyour accomplishments.
SPEAKER_02 (48:37):
Enjoy your accomplishments.
Just waste ever dumb you can getyour hands on and just feel good
about it.
Can I borrow some money?
SPEAKER_00 (48:48):
I'm kidding.
All right, we're gonna pull overand remember to watch us on the
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Welcome to Who's Driving?
I'm Wesley Turner.
And I'm Steven Murphy.
We're Two Best Friends andEntrepreneurs.
Who's Driving is an entertaininglook into the behind the scenes
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of our lives, friendships, andbusinesses.
SPEAKER_02 (00:25):
These are the stories we share and topics we
discuss as two best friendswould on a long road trip.
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Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer
a wide range of informativetopics centered around running
small businesses, social media,and all things home and car.
SPEAKER_02 (00:39):
Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
You never know who's driving orwhere we're headed.
All we know is it's always a funride.
SPEAKER_00 (00:45):
Oh, look at you go.
Are you feeling fested?
That was your inner Mariah.
SPEAKER_02 (00:51):
That was my Mariah coming out.
I mean, hell, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (00:56):
I'm on it's already a big blur to me.
I know.
Um, for once in a while, uh, Idon't know how long it's been.
We're back in the studio.
Is that what we're gonna callit?
We sound so professional.
We're so jack-legged, bootleg uhpodcast.
We I don't even know what youwant.
(01:17):
It's just a shit show.
But hey!
unknown (01:19):
Hey y'all!
SPEAKER_00 (01:20):
Hey, you do.
I forgot to see if I had anynotes on what's irritated me
this week, but let's start offvery today.
You went to the dermatologist.
I did.
Tell me about it because youstarted telling me about it.
You were sitting cold in a roomwith clothes on.
SPEAKER_02 (01:39):
I love my dermatologist, first of all.
So I'm just, you know, but itwas cold today.
It was just cold out.
Yeah.
And you know, you have to go inthere and strip down so she can,
you know, go over your body,which is very, very important.
If y'all aren't going to thedermatologist, you need to go at
least once a year, especially ifyou have blonde hair and blue
(02:00):
eyes.
So, um, but I was cold.
Yeah, and I wanted a blanket orsomething.
I felt like I was getting readyto have a pap smear or
something.
Oh god.
I mean, it would I was naked andcold.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER_00 (02:14):
Do you take your underwear off?
SPEAKER_02 (02:16):
No.
Oh, she don't check the junk.
I was like, little billy's justoh, she would have had to dug
for him today because I wascold.
I was cold up in there today.
Oh my gosh.
Um, no, but it it went well.
(02:36):
Yeah.
Um, and I had what I would havesworn was skin cancer on my leg,
wasn't it?
Wasn't some kind of a of an anage spot like you had on your
face.
I know, right?
SPEAKER_00 (02:50):
But I mine was so I went, it was a it was the year
of March.
Mine started, but I was kind ofgot nervous because it started
getting big kind of rapidly.
It was there for a long time,but mine started as a pimple, I
remember it, and then I messedwith it too much.
It was almost like a pimple butingrown hair, and I think that
caused um scar tissue, but thenit started growing.
(03:13):
She was, but she acted like, ohyeah, that's just some old spot
and cut it off or whatever.
SPEAKER_02 (03:18):
Yeah, I think we get at a certain age.
I just think we're like an oldship.
We just start getting barnaclesgrowing on.
Exactly.
And I'm some of my decide I needto do it.
I'm not here for it.
Do it.
Oh, skin tags?
SPEAKER_00 (03:32):
I can remove those for you.
No, you remember my skin tag.
Did I know you when I had theskin tag on my back?
Oh my gosh, I finally cut it offmyself because I was too nervous
to go to the I take, I removeall of mine.
I was too nervous to go to thedermatologist.
I'd never been until like a yearand a half ago at all.
Oh, I have a method, it worksbeautifully.
(03:53):
And so I forgot what I did, butI had one and it got decently,
it was like a pet tick backthere, suckering on.
But it was right at my pantsline, and I would get nervous
like it was gonna catch on it orsomething.
Or if I bent down and my shirtcame up, there it was gonna be
(04:15):
like flapping in the wind andhanging out.
So I finally I cut it off myselfwith sharp, like, you know, the
really thin, sharp scissors,like manicure scissors.
I don't even know what you usethem for, like grooming
scissors.
But it, you know, it was harderthan I thought, and I had to
like chop through it a fewtimes, and then it bleeds.
Well, I have a way of doing it.
(04:36):
We're getting more personal andmore personal in this podcast
than you ever thought you wantedto hear about us, but that
that's it.
I don't have any skin tags rightnow, I don't think.
But what's your method?
Tell me your method of doing it.
SPEAKER_02 (04:53):
I actually pinch them with my fingers really
flat, as hard as I can, and thenI twist.
No.
And twist.
No.
And twist and then I leave it.
And they turn dark and fallaway.
That's it.
(05:14):
That it's not even a big deal.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Oh, God, that sounds so because I feel like they're
sensitive at the base whereverthey are.
I mean, you know, they're not,but uh let's move the hell on.
Um, well, I'm glad you wentthere.
Did you have any, you know, onyour face?
You've had little skin cancerson your face before, right?
SPEAKER_02 (05:31):
Yeah, my and my arms.
SPEAKER_00 (05:34):
Um you have any this time you gotta get?
SPEAKER_02 (05:37):
Yeah.
One here, one three, one uphere, on your forehead.
On my forehead, one here, onehere.
On the cheek and one on thenose.
SPEAKER_00 (05:45):
Okay.
Um, are you what do you gottado?
Get them frozen off, scrapedout.
SPEAKER_02 (05:51):
Okay.
Yeah.
She was like, Oh, you're gonnabe scabby for two weeks.
Do you want to wait till afterthe holiday?
SPEAKER_03 (05:58):
And I'm like, No, no, let's go ahead and do it.
SPEAKER_00 (06:01):
I'll still be pretty.
That's funny.
That is too funny.
So we are in the middle of theholiday season, if you don't
know.
I mean, if you follow us at all,then you know, but you probably
don't really know.
But we are in the thick of it.
And tonight, um, so you willhave already missed this.
(06:22):
We're doing a live sale in thenested fig app at my home.
So if you missed it, you can goback and watch the live replay.
So if you don't have the nestedfig app yet, download the nested
fig app.
Just search the nested fig.
How many times can I say that?
Search the nested fig in yourapp store and you can find us
and you can watch the replaysand continue to shop there as
(06:45):
well.
But I wanted to hit onsomething.
I think I wanted to give myself,you and myself kudos that I
forgot to talk about last week.
And and that is if you're onsocial media at all and looking
at Christmas and getting in theChristmas sphere, I know Steven
and I are ahead of time becauseit's the industry we're in.
(07:06):
Most people, I feel like, don'tdecorate until after
Thanksgiving, which is normal.
Do you?
I like this.
SPEAKER_02 (07:11):
If you love Christmas, if you love
Christmas, if you love theholidays, don't go into retail.
Yeah, sure.
Don't because it it ruins itforever.
SPEAKER_00 (07:20):
But what is every the buzz, the buzzword on social
media for Christmas is RalphLauren Christmas.
Everyone's calling it RalphLauren Christmas, which I
totally get.
Uh, and then, like someone said,well, really, Ralph Lauren or
Lauren.
(07:41):
It's Lauren.
Yeah.
Christmas is just a very wellput together traditional
Christmas.
It's not really like that.
But when you say Ralph LaurenChristmas, you can picture what
that looks like.
But what I was wanting tomention, and I wish we could go
back and dig this up, but wecan't because I ain't got the
(08:02):
time.
You and I called this as beingthe trend two years ago.
And I was actually surprised.
We even said, so at Christmas2023, you and I said, we're
gonna lean more into forChristmas 2024, the Ralph
Lauren, Lauren.
(08:22):
Lauren is Lauren.
Lauren, look.
Um, and we did a little bit, butwhen we went to market, we were
kind of like, I'm surprised wedidn't see more of that.
And so that was for lastChristmas.
And then this Christmas, when wewere buying, we're like, okay,
we're seeing more of it.
But I didn't really feel likeanyone was talking about it like
(08:44):
public-wise.
Like you and I were like, thisis where we're going.
You know, this is what peopleare gonna be into.
And then it just this month,it's blown up.
You're hearing it.
We called it though.
That's what I'm saying.
We called it before any damnbody years ago.
I'm suing somebody.
I don't know who.
You can't, but I just love whenwe, you know, this is a good
(09:06):
thing and a bad thing withSteven and I.
Um, we tend to try to pick up ontrends, and I feel like we're
really good and in tune with itmost of the time.
But sometimes like this, we werea little early.
We end up being a little early alot of times, is my point.
(09:28):
Even at the retail stores withstuff, uh, you know, back when,
for example, when we openedRoots back in 2009, I started
out, I was like, oh, terrariumsand glass planters are the cool
thing.
And people loved it, but it Iwas like, what in the hell are
you doing?
SPEAKER_02 (09:46):
This beer you bring it back 1983.
SPEAKER_00 (09:49):
Then when I was tired of it, like a year and a
half later, it was the craze,and we had to keep it going for
like another two years, andthat's kind of like this.
Like last year, I was ready forthis big Ralph Warren like look,
and now it's here, and I'm kindof like, oh, well, that's been
(10:09):
in my brain for two Christmases.
SPEAKER_02 (10:12):
I know, but here's the thing which is always that
Ralph Warren look is kind ofalways my look.
Right.
So it is happy.
I'm just happy that I'm on trendright now.
Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER_00 (10:24):
But I mean, I'll be off trend soon enough.
Right.
And that's the thing we'vetalked about with Christmas in
the past when coming back frommarket and the trends.
Christmas is Christmas.
You can do whatever trend, ifthat's what you want to call it,
anytime that you want.
It it doesn't matter.
Like if you want to dogingerbread right now, do
(10:45):
gingerbread.
And if you want to do pink andbright colors, do that.
It's Christmas, it's best.
SPEAKER_02 (10:50):
I think Nate Burkis said it best, but is talking
about trends.
He said, just buy what you love,right?
And don't focus on the trends,and you'll always be happy.
SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
Right.
And that's true.
That's my point, is you'vealways done this sort of thing.
That's always a hot zone is aRaf Lauren, a moody um colors
and more natural.
And it never looks out.
SPEAKER_02 (11:19):
No, that's what I'm saying.
It's just uh more on trend nowthan ever, even with the antique
mixing antiques in with morecontemporary.
Right.
It's just really hot right now.
But it's never, you never walkedinto my house and went, right.
No, well, I don't think maybesomebody did.
SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
Probably somebody.
No.
But that's okay.
Um, but I just thought that waskind of fun.
Just talking about we spottedthat, that it was going in that
that direction.
Um, and there's different waysyou can get that look.
Like yours is gonna be very, andby the way, if you want to see
Steven's home, we're gonna do alive sale from there this coming
(12:04):
Sunday, which would be the 14th,15th, 16th of November, November
16th, 8 p.m.
Eastern, inside the Nesty FigOut.
We're gonna tour his home.
Uh and you'll get to shop thatas well.
But yours is very, even thoughit's Ralph Lauren look, it's
still got a little natural twistto it and more like greens and
(12:26):
earthy.
It's not as um bright red plaid.
So you can take it and kind ofgo that way.
SPEAKER_02 (12:35):
I typically never do bright red.
Um always.
Yeah, and I like bright red,like I love your tree.
I think it's the prettiest treeI've ever seen.
You do.
I love it, but I've always donemore of an oxblood red or a
burgundy.
Right.
Um, I don't know why, justbecause.
SPEAKER_00 (12:58):
So yeah, but the and I love those colors too, but I
always here at our home, sincewe have it's alabastered the
grape room, I just feel likethat's the tone, the brighter
red.
And I have little some burgundy,but not the oxblood wine like
you like to use.
But I just feel like thatmatches the tone of the red.
(13:19):
It does.
I don't know, and it makes sensepop.
SPEAKER_02 (13:21):
But I love what you do, and you know, everyone has
different homes, and they candesign what looks really good in
the I feel a little bit likeMartha Stewart at Turkey Hill
right now, but not in a bad way.
Yeah.
Mossy and pine cone andhonestly, that's what I love.
Yeah, it's I mean, I I love alook like you're in a
(13:42):
200-year-old cabin in the middleof nowhere.
SPEAKER_00 (13:45):
That's the look.
That's that's your soul.
You need a 200-year-old cabin inthe middle of the woods.
Um, speaking of that, I do havekind of a like, um, I guess you
it's not an it's not an ick.
It's more of a PSA, I guess.
So start talking about Christmasand decorating.
(14:09):
I feel like it's early enough.
If you are, because I've seenthis going around on social
media a little bit.
If you're gonna use naturalgarland or natural cut greens,
I'm seeing this soak it in yourtub and it'll last all season
type thing.
(14:29):
We just love giving things somebaths in the holiday season
everything.
We just love it.
So, okay, so I'm gonna breakthis down for you.
Well, first of all, the stuff iscut and it is on its way out to
death.
There ain't no stopping it.
But there is some things to it.
You can maybe soak it andrehydrate it if it's maybe
(14:54):
feeling slightly dry, it wouldstill have to be fresh enough
for it to absorb the water.
SPEAKER_02 (15:00):
If it's fresh, get me correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm trying to remember.
But if it's fresh from the farm,you can soak it and put it in
something that kind of seals thecut places.
That's what I was gonna say.
The whole, is that right?
SPEAKER_00 (15:13):
Yes, you can.
So the thing is, unless you'rereally going out and cutting
this yourself or getting it froma farm where you know it's super
too late, baby.
SPEAKER_02 (15:23):
Now it's too late.
Right.
Your shit's gonna die.
SPEAKER_00 (15:27):
It's true.
You're gonna let it dry inplace.
But um, unless you know it'sfresh, because let me tell you,
we've sold thousands of wreaths.
We used to sell thousands or acouple of thousand in the
holiday season.
Um, we used to set up a big tentat the garden shop, and we had
our little elves out thereworking.
That's what Daniel did for solong.
(15:48):
But so I've seen it all, I'vebeen to the farms.
They start cutting like yourChristmas tree has already been
cut.
They start cutting likeHalloween.
Yeah.
Like they're already cutting andshipping, they're already being
transported.
Now they'll store them incoolers and that sort of thing.
But even though they're incoolers, that's keeping them
kind of like fresh, like aflower would.
(16:10):
But as soon as you pull themout, they're starting the drying
out process.
Um, but my thing is okay, soyes, you can hydrate your
greenery in a tub and try to getit to absorb water.
The thing is, it is likeanything else, let's just use a
(16:31):
sponge, for example, it can onlyabsorb so much water when you
soak it.
It doesn't matter if you soak it10 hours, 20 hours, one hour.
It's going to absorb what it canand that's it.
And then as soon as you pullthat out of the tub, it is going
to start immediately drying outagain.
So by doing all of that work ofjust dunking it or floating it
(16:55):
or sitting it in a tub of water,is only helping you for maybe a
day or two because it's justgonna dry right back out.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like taking a sponge out ofwater, laying it on your kitchen
counter and it drying outovernight.
It's gonna do the same thingevery three days, but who the
hell is going to be a little bitmore?
What are you gonna do?
Take your garland down.
(17:16):
Exactly.
So when you're seeing that soakyour garland and it will last
all season, no, it's really notgoing to.
Maybe a day.
You're gonna, it's gonna make itmaybe, yeah, like a day or two
difference than it would if youdidn't do anything at all.
So why do the work?
Now, back to what Steven wassaying, there is a product and
(17:36):
there's different brands, butsomething like no wilt or wilt
proof, wilt proof, I think isthe one we use, uh, that you can
add into the water.
Do not do this in your tubinside.
Do not do this in your tubinside.
Um, but if you cut really freshgreenery that is hydrated, so
(17:58):
it's just off the bush, you cansoak it in a solution which is
water, and you would add this umwilt proof to it.
And basically you soak it inthere, and it's almost like um
uh Elmer's glue kind of solutionin your water.
And what it does is it uh sealsit seals up all the pores, all
(18:19):
the cuts and everything, andthat traps all the moisture into
your garlic.
Now it does work, your wreath.
And yes, that does help becauseit helps it when it gets hot,
keeps it from perspiring, so itkeeps it all trapped in.
And that really does make adifference.
The best thing to use is akiddie pool.
Yes, that's what we used to useis a kiddie pool, like a plastic
(18:40):
kiddie pool.
We'd always go at the end of thesummer and be like, make sure we
got our kiddie pool, so that atChristmas time we could um, you
know, when those hard formedkiddie pools we could dunk our
wreaths in.
Now, the other thing is if youdo want to do this solution
because you're just love doingfresh greens, which I love doing
fresh greens too, and I'll tuckthem in like, you know, after
(19:03):
Thanksgiving when I only wantthem to last a couple of weeks
or whatever.
But if you're gonna do this,make sure you are using the
dunking method because it willsay on the bottle, like you can
put it in like a pump-up sprayeror a spray bottle, but that
doesn't, it really doesn't, it'snot enough.
You can't spray all the cuts andall the pores and everything to
(19:26):
make a difference because itreally needs to be dunked and
that seals and wraps around youknow everything.
SPEAKER_02 (19:33):
And one thing, if you're gonna use greens inside,
and I love, love, love freshgreens, um, and I do the same,
you know, when it gets afterThanksgiving, I usually bring
some home from the garden store.
Right.
Smell of your fresh greens, ifsomething bothers you, do not
(19:54):
bring it in.
It's going to get stronger inyour home as it does dry out.
And last year I brought in, I'dnever done this before.
I brought in a green, I don'tremember what it is.
You told me what it was.
I don't even remember this.
It drove me insane.
It smelled like cat pee.
(20:15):
Was it boxwood?
No, it was not, it was somethingelse.
You said it was um I can'tremember.
It was one of the evergreens.
Oh my god.
And I they were beautiful.
I brought fresh wreaths and putthem inside in my foyer, and
they were really pretty.
(20:36):
And I was like, oh, it'd smelllike a tree.
It'd be great.
Oh my god.
It drove me.
I could not wait to throw thosethings away.
Yeah.
Nothing cut it either.
And I was like, what is this?
Like, what is it?
And it was the it was it was theevergreen.
So just smell of it.
(20:57):
And if you're like, oh, I lovethis smell, you're fine.
Yeah.
But if there's something, a mixthat is in there.
SPEAKER_00 (21:04):
Yeah, because when you take it in your home and you
have the heat on it, yeah, andyou have the heat on that's
gonna, you know, make it thearoma smell stronger.
Yeah.
So that's my Christmas PS.
Are we doing worsh workshopsthis year?
Uh I meant to ask you that.
We need to.
(21:24):
It's uh it's on the plan, butwe're getting we need like we're
it's gotta happen this week.
Yeah, I gotta call tomorrow andsee if we can make that happen.
Yeah, we had planned to dowreath workshops.
We're having a little businessmeeting right here.
Hold pause a moment now.
We had um planned to do wreathworkshops, but I haven't um
verified that.
But we would have to have themin like three weeks, so we be
(21:47):
the week after Thanksgivingwould be like three weeks.
So I think it's doable.
We could do like two.
Yeah, let's just do two nights.
Back into it and do two nights.
We were gonna do a whole week.
We were overzealous back in umAugust when it was slower and
not as much going on.
But now every day keeps sleepslipping away.
(22:08):
So I'm like, I don't know if wecan do a whole week of
workshops, but we'll um I thinkwe should do stuff.
We have the stuff for it andeverything.
So maybe do two workshops andthen um, you know, because we
got to do live sales and all thefun.
But I do love the wreathworkshops.
SPEAKER_02 (22:23):
Uh yeah, I kind of miss them.
They may we may bring them backand I might decide I don't.
Um, but if if that's the case,we won't do them anymore.
That's right.
That is true.
Uh, but it is fun, and it is funto see what people do.
Um, you know, because peoplethink outside, and some people
(22:44):
really do good, some people notso much.
Yeah, it's and I always tellthem I'm like, if your shit's
ugly, do not tag us.
SPEAKER_00 (22:52):
Yeah, we do.
You know, you know if your shitis ugly, and it's been so we
stopped doing wreath workshopswith COVID, so 2020.
And and then we moved, like, youknow, we couldn't do them 2020,
2021, it was weird.
Then we moved the garden shopand it was smaller, so we're
like done with workshops orwhatever.
(23:13):
And um and then we thought,we'll do it at the top house.
Yeah, but how much social mediahas changed since 2020?
Because we used to always joke,don't go home and tag us if you
don't do the work here at theworkshop and make a gorgeous
wreath, as we've instructed andguided you.
Because some of the ladies, theyjust want to come in and have a
(23:33):
little wine time and get drunk,and they'll just throw a little
something, something in theirwreath and be like, I'm done.
And I'm like, that is fine, butdon't go tagging us on your
wreath and say, Look what I gotat you know, the nested fit
garden.
You tagging and say, Look what Idid.
Yeah, look what I did.
I had I got drunk and made this.
SPEAKER_02 (23:55):
Don't put it off on the because I will call your ass
out.
I'm like, mm-mm.
You got drunk and crawled on thefloor and did that.
We used to have some good timesat those workshops because
people, it is crazy how they'llbut you know, as the season get
went would go, it got and Iwould get tired and and more
(24:18):
tired and more tired at the end.
I'm like, that's when I waslike, uh, don't tag us.
You know that ain't right.
But they it you know, it's justfun though.
SPEAKER_00 (24:29):
Wine and design, wreathshops.
Yeah, it is it is a lot of fun.
But what I was gonna say is it'salso fun to see everyone
starting with the same, youknow, they had the same material
options and um and then how eachwreath looked different.
SPEAKER_02 (24:46):
And some were really good.
I mean, didn't you need a job?
Come on, yeah, it was impressiveuh a lot of times, and I also
really loved like some of thecolor combinations they came up
with, stuff that I reallywouldn't have thought about
doing that was really cool.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (25:08):
There were more good than bad.
That was the good, yeah, therewere more good than bad.
What did get irritating at theend though?
I'm gonna call some of y'all outbecause y'all might be our
customers, and it was kind ofgood to have a break for this
reason.
Well, we we were too nice.
But so the wreath workshop, youwould start with a plain fresh
(25:28):
wreath.
We did fresh fur wreaths, andthen in the buckets, we would
have buckets or boxes or bins.
We would have like cryptomeria,magnolia, boxwood, um, pine,
pine, whatever greens, and youfresh also, and those were
included in the workshop.
So your wreath and all of thefresh materials, and we had
(25:52):
wine, was all included in yourwreath workshop.
But then you could shop thestore and add in if you wanted
like fairy picks, like fauxberry picks, or maybe you know,
fun ornament picks, or asnowman, or if you wanted us to
make a bow and that sort ofthing, you that was extra.
That was add-on to your wreath.
I know what you're gonna do.
(26:13):
Some of those all heifers, theystarted bringing their stuff
back from the year before.
SPEAKER_02 (26:18):
With glue stuck on it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:20):
Stuck on it.
SPEAKER_02 (26:21):
Don't do that.
SPEAKER_00 (26:22):
Uh-uh.
SPEAKER_02 (26:23):
That's a DIY at home.
SPEAKER_00 (26:25):
Yeah, come by the wreath at home and you already
got the stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (26:28):
You got your shit.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
We're here to sell you something.
Yeah, and make something new andcreative.
Some of this stuff by the end,because we started doing these
in 2009.
I mean, they were bringing backthe same stuff for like seven or
eight years.
And I was like, you cannot dipthis in any more glue.
That shit looked like they haddone stole it out of somebody's
(26:50):
wreath.
No.
Come in with their ziplop bagsof all their well, you know, I
would tell them like, what areyou what are you doing with
this?
The good thing is some of themwould bring it, like, not the
ones that would bring it yearafter year.
I knew after like three years, Iknew the ones that were gonna
bring it year after year.
But some of them be like, Oh, Ibrought my stuff back from last
(27:11):
year, and then they would getthere and see everyone else's,
and they'll be like, I can't usethis.
And I'm like, You're right, atleast you read the room.
SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
So I stopped by, I had a little minute to kill
waiting on you today.
And um, so I walked through.
SPEAKER_00 (27:27):
Did you say it like that?
I was working.
SPEAKER_02 (27:29):
I know, I'm kidding, and I saw this wreath, and I
almost got it.
Yeah.
You may go back and get it.
Yeah.
But it was someone had handmadeit and they had taken all of the
vintage ornaments, all thedifferent ones, and just some
random stuff and put in it.
(27:49):
Oh, it sounds like it's thoseare so cool.
It was expensive, but it it'slike this thick, and it's
probably just covered in justvintage ornaments.
Yeah, and then it would haverandom.
Oh, it was so cool.
I mean, that would look cool.
SPEAKER_00 (28:06):
With your Christopher Radco collection
that you're building up.
How big was it?
SPEAKER_02 (28:12):
It it like uh 27, 28.
You might could hang it like onyour hutch by your tree next to
you.
It was it's really cool.
I think you need to treatyourself.
Yeah, I'm thinking I need it.
It's really pretty, and I thinkit was there last year, and I
was eyeing it, or maybe theymade a different one because I
(28:34):
remember it having a little dot.
The last one last year had somekind of little doll in it.
Yeah, this one didn't have it,but it's really fun.
It's nice being in the retailbusiness when you can go
somewhere and see somethingexciting or that I want to buy,
yeah.
Because you know, if listen, weare in the business, we've been
(28:55):
in this so long, we know whereeverything comes from.
So if we go shopping, we'relike, oh yeah, we know where to
get that, and it kind of ruinsit for us.
Like there's no shopping, itdoes, but but if it's something
special and made, yeah, thatstands out.
SPEAKER_00 (29:15):
It does kind of ruin it, but because you said that a
couple of times, but thetrade-off is it's more fun on
the other side.
Like I love going to market andshopping for everything.
SPEAKER_02 (29:27):
So we create the trends for our trading area,
right?
SPEAKER_00 (29:31):
And it's so it's more fun to go hunt.
We we do our shopping and thrillof shopping at different times
and on a different level.
Like we go shop for Christmas inJanuary.
So, like, literally in twomonths.
Wait, where are we?
We're um November 10th.
Literally in two months, eightweeks, we will be at the Atlanta
(29:55):
market shopping for Christmas2026.
Yep.
Kind of makes you want to pukewhen you say that out loud.
But that's it's good becauseit's fresh.
SPEAKER_02 (30:04):
And we've in and what you don't realize is um we
we really, really analyze ourbuying, what we did, what we did
well, what we could have donebetter, what we just flat out
did wrong.
We do that every year.
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (30:23):
We're already making notes like ah we could have used
a little more of this, or wemissed the boat on not buying
this, or you know, that sort ofthing.
SPEAKER_02 (30:33):
We gotta keep it, we got to make it better and better
and better.
Fine-tune it and different.
Yeah.
And sometimes it's just makingum, I don't think this quote
unquote Ralph Lauren look isgoing any going away anything.
SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
No, I think it's gonna be the trend for the next
few years.
There'll be different variationsof it, just like anything, they
go in trends, like it'll be morelike your color this year.
If you again watch the live orfollow Steven on Instagram, it's
gonna be like green on greenwith some of the brown with a
little bit of burgundy in there.
SPEAKER_02 (31:10):
It'll be that look, and then they'll add gold into
it, and then it is then you'llsee some vintage ornaments added
into that look, and you'll seejust dip some glitzy gold added
into that.
It's gonna be variations of thesame.
SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
Yeah.
And then because we've been in,if you think about it, for the
last maybe the last two reallylast year was the big
transition, but the last two,but before that, for like five
years, everything was glitterand bright, and you would have
the pink.
Not that you still don't havethe pink, that's still a thing,
(31:46):
but it was a very glitzy,glittery look, and now it's
swinging, it's gonna be more andmore natural, more and more
velvet, tone on the colour.
SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
What has never flown in Greenville?
Ever what?
Is the hand spun type, the thefelt, no, the handmade looks
like does that go anywhere?
SPEAKER_00 (32:08):
I see it, but I never see it.
It just somewhere.
I see it at market, but I neversee it in actual life, like the
home.
SPEAKER_02 (32:17):
The felted ornaments, yeah, and it just
does not sell.
Yeah, I don't know.
You know, there's stuff thatlooks like you did in vacation
Bible school.
SPEAKER_03 (32:26):
Yes, I know.
SPEAKER_02 (32:27):
I'm not knocking it, no, but I'm seeing because we
all have those ornaments we madein vacation Bible school and
stuff like that.
SPEAKER_00 (32:34):
And one of our big vendors has sold felt ornaments
every year for years.
And I'm like, Who buys them?
Who buys them?
I've never seen them out andabout, so there must be a
market, a submarket somewhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Maybe I don't know if that's aWest Coast thing.
Is it a mountain thing?
Or is it a mountain thing?
SPEAKER_02 (32:54):
Tourist mountain.
SPEAKER_00 (32:55):
Yeah, I don't know what I mean.
SPEAKER_02 (32:57):
I think I could see that being sold in a Christmas
shop in Pigeon Forge.
SPEAKER_00 (33:02):
Yeah, but but then the people, the general public,
mix that in with their regulardecor.
SPEAKER_02 (33:09):
I don't know about that.
I mean, we should just go aroundand be like, we're here to
inspect your Christmas.
SPEAKER_03 (33:16):
We should do that.
SPEAKER_02 (33:18):
Hello, we're here to just inspect your Christmas tree
if you don't mind.
We'll be in and out in less than10 minutes.
SPEAKER_00 (33:24):
And we're gonna take pictures.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
That would be fun.
SPEAKER_02 (33:27):
Wouldn't that be fun?
So funny.
Okay, let's do this street.
Yeah.
Just not Christmas treeinspectors.
SPEAKER_00 (33:37):
We're gonna be like oh hell, you need a you need a
complete tear down.
We have a we have prizes for thebest tree on the street and the
worst tree on the street.
Oh my goodness, it is funny.
Do we need to have any type oflittle um therapy session this
week?
I feel like we did really goodlast week talking about your
(33:59):
kitchen and you know, I feellike we need to not, we can't
get too far away from, you know,Steven feels the need to defend
himself for not using somethingthat that he has.
He he tried to do it the otherday on his TV that he really
doesn't use in the the livingroom.
I was on the phone with Dylanand he said, or was on the
(34:22):
phone, I was somewhere.
Dylan was there.
I think we were I had you onspeaker.
And Dylan was said somethingabout oh, the TV we don't ever
use, and Steven, yes, we do.
We use that TV, and we'reDylan's like, no, we use the
bedroom TV.
SPEAKER_02 (34:37):
You know, it is it there's some there there's there
was serious trauma in mychildhood that made that I feel
a level of guilt.
Yeah, because you know, and Ifeel I did it when we got when I
got here tonight.
I said, you know, um my car'sgoing in for service on Friday,
(34:59):
and uh I'm not getting me a newcar, but it is time for Dylan to
get a new car.
Um, I mean, it yeah, it is time,and I don't have a problem with
that.
But I told Wesley, I said, youknow, I'm thinking about getting
that really big Lexus SUV.
Um, and I may keep it, I maydrive it or I may give that to
(35:23):
Dylan.
I don't know.
But I'm like, you know, thatwould that would last like 15,
20 years.
SPEAKER_00 (35:29):
Yeah, yeah.
And I said, the hell, the hell,you gonna drive a car for 10,
15, 20 years.
You ain't gonna do that.
You always gotta justify or feeljust I love new, but I don't
like paying for new.
Well, I know, I know.
I don't like paying.
(35:51):
I get that, but my point isdon't don't justify.
Just say, I do justify every Ido.
SPEAKER_02 (36:02):
It's just um I I don't know.
I that when uh you were sorudely analyzing me.
SPEAKER_00 (36:10):
No, we had a great podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (36:13):
Um I honestly think it it is tri it's all from my
it's trauma from my childhood.
My my my mom's parents were veryum focused on not wasting and
you save every penny.
Yeah.
And if you spend it, you feelguilty.
SPEAKER_00 (36:36):
No, you don't feel guilty.
See, my thing is can you notflip that into feeling like a
reward?
Like, oh my gosh, I worked hardand have made myself successful
enough that I can buy whateverit is, and it should be.
And not feel guilty about it.
You should feel like, oh mygosh, look what I accomplished.
(36:57):
Look at Miko.
SPEAKER_01 (36:58):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (36:59):
But because, like we said, everyone's level of
success is different and whatthey want to do with their
success.
So, like if you want to have 10cars, that's your comical cars,
it then enjoy them.
SPEAKER_02 (37:15):
It's sad and comical at the same time because you
know, my grandparents did very,very well for themselves and
they worked very, very hard.
And they um, you know, they wereable to save a small fortune,
especially, you know, forcountry people.
Right.
(37:36):
And but they did without things,like little thing, like little
things, they always kept theyhad a beautiful home and they
kept a new car, but they wouldsay, Oh, we don't need to buy
that rug.
Yeah, or that one's fine.
Yeah, or they would really wantsomething new, but they don't
get it, and then they die andleave all of this money in my
(38:04):
lazy ass cousin and aunt.
I mean, they're taking the moneyand they're driving Mercedes
like they earned it, they'reenjoying it.
Yeah, they're buying newMercedes like they earned it.
Right.
And they ain't earned a damnthing.
SPEAKER_00 (38:21):
But that's why your grandparents should have enjoyed
it.
They should have enjoyed it.
Because why do all that work fornothing?
You're right.
SPEAKER_02 (38:28):
I know.
I'm saying logically, I saw thatwith my own.
SPEAKER_00 (38:32):
Me personally, if I am going to be that way and do
without, and like we don't needanything, then I'm gonna live at
that level and work at thatlevel.
Yeah, that's true.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, if I'm comfortable enoughto be like, I can do without all
this stuff, I'm gonna livesimply, I'm gonna work simply,
I'm gonna work to pay the billsor need to be paid or not for
(38:55):
times and be happy.
That would be, I could see that.
But why work yourself to deathand accumulate this stuff and
not enjoy it, and not enjoy it.
SPEAKER_02 (39:05):
Well, and it was honestly, it was a big turning
point in my life.
If you look back at my at myhabits, um, I changed a lot
after my mother died because Ithought, you know, when you lose
your parent, when you lose oneparent, um, that's when your own
mortality slaps you in the face.
(39:27):
And you're like, oh shit.
Right.
My you know, I'm not gonna liveforever.
Right.
Yeah.
And um, you know, that that camethat slapped me in the face.
And then when I saw what myfamily did, my grandparents
away.
Yeah, with my grandparents thatworked so hard.
(39:50):
I mean, most of the estate wasstolen from me, basically.
But what what small amount I didget, you know, I don't look at
that as a pivotance of of myinheritance.
(40:10):
I look at it as I know how hardmy grandparents worked even for
that.
Right.
And I have so much respect forthem and their hard work.
Right.
You know, personally, I wouldnever ever use their money, that
inheritance.
This may sound crazy too.
I would never use that to go buyMercedes because that would have
(40:34):
disrespected.
I know what they would havethought of it.
Right, right.
And I would rather do somethinglike put that in an investment
property or something moresubstantial.
Right.
But it's interesting people thathaven't made the choices to be
(40:54):
more successful in life.
Right.
Because they it was a choicewith my family.
Yeah, they made choices, right?
And um, so they never made um acrazy good living.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (41:09):
But they got that, and we're just like, hell yeah,
we're gonna go get us a damnMercedes.
We're gonna get us a Mercedes.
SPEAKER_00 (41:19):
Oh my gosh, that's so crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (41:20):
It's funny though.
SPEAKER_00 (41:21):
I do think though, but my grandparents should have
been enjoying that.
Yes, they that's my point.
And you should be enjoying yourmoney in the time.
Right now, not that you shouldfrivolously spend your money and
not have any to live on later,but that you know what you can
afford and spend your money on.
(41:43):
So when you do, you just need toenjoy it and not justify it and
not beat yourself, oh, he hasbuyer's remorse remorse for
everything.
I'm surprised I've never taken acar back.
I am too.
I but I do think here's what Ithink, here's my new thing.
What I think you and Dylan, atsome point, not like this year,
(42:06):
but y'all need to build a house.
Y'all need to build a house.
And when you do, you need twokitchens.
You need one on the back, justlike off to the side, that is an
actual working kitchen thatDylan can cook in whenever he
wants.
And then you need one that'slike your your main kitchen, no,
(42:28):
your party kitchen.
SPEAKER_02 (42:29):
No, when okay, so when I grew up, this is what we
everybody needs this.
I ain't lying.
My my grandparents and my aunt,my aunts, my aunts about the age
of most people's grandparents.
Um, but we grew up with likeoutdoor kitchens.
(42:52):
Yeah.
And I know that sounds weird,but like my grandparents had
theirs was not fancy, it wasjust um a wood house in the back
that had uh old reclaimedwindows.
It was really cute.
Yeah.
And it had a wood stove and asink.
(43:13):
What you needed, yeah, the theminimal.
And that's where my grandmotherwould can.
SPEAKER_03 (43:20):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (43:20):
Because it was out of the house, it didn't stink up
the house.
Get her stuff together.
She would also cook down um thethe hog fat to pour up the lard
and that.
Yeah.
And my aunt had a nicer, she hada big, a big outdoor kitchen,
big, big, but it was just aseparate kitchen, and that was
(43:43):
for um canning and well, that'swhat y'all need in your house
that you're gonna build.
SPEAKER_00 (43:48):
I decided.
It can just, you know, have theessentials nicely.
I must make it like a commercialkitchen, is what I picture.
Lots of tile, stainless steelsink.
Well, what's nice?
SPEAKER_02 (44:02):
And then in your house, you have your fancy with
your li poo-poo oven and but youcan have out there, you can put
you can put a wood burningstove, well, you ain't doing
freezers.
SPEAKER_00 (44:13):
I'm just saying if you're wood burning stuff.
But if you wanted to go back,I'm just saying where he can
cook and it can smell and youknow it's fish and just stink it
up.
Yeah, I think you should make itlike a commercial kitchen with
big exhaust and everything, andso Dylan can cook in there and
(44:35):
not get reprobate.
Well, but he could just cookdinner.
It won't he can cook as long asI'm not there and it doesn't
smell.
Well, you can't burn dumplings,and you can't cook anything with
the spice, you can't do anythingthat smells like broccoli or
(44:57):
see, you can't do anything thathas a scent, has oil, or could
possibly burn like shit or fish.
SPEAKER_02 (45:12):
So sorry.
SPEAKER_00 (45:15):
That's why you need a separate kitchen.
So, you know, we live Dylan, getout back.
It needs to be connected to thehouse, but it just needs to be
off to the side, completelysealed, very clean, something
you could just hose down thewhole thing or whatever, and
that's where Dylan can cook youdinner.
So, one of my pet peeps, I loveliving in the mill.
SPEAKER_02 (45:36):
I do.
Um, obviously, it's worked.
I've been been there like nineand a half years.
So I do like it.
But but but but but well,there's a butt to everything.
There is a but to everything.
The one of my little irritants,and there's nothing you can do
about it.
Our our loft always smellsdelicious because it's clean and
(45:59):
candles are burning and it'sit's like a showroom.
SPEAKER_00 (46:03):
Yes, but unfunctional, non-functional.
SPEAKER_02 (46:07):
People cook some nasty shit, and you can smell it
all in the hallway.
In the hallway.
I'm like, ooh, they've cookedshrimp.
I I know certain things thatthey've cooked Brussels sprouts,
shrimp, and broccoli.
SPEAKER_00 (46:22):
When you have that many people at dinner time,
there's a lot of mixes.
I've been there before and I'mlike, Thanksgiving is horrible.
SPEAKER_02 (46:33):
Thank God.
Here's what I'm thankful for.
I smell nothing inside inside.
Oh, you would be.
Well, you would be out of there.
Be gone.
I'd be gone.
It's you call me gone.
You would be gone.
No, I would be, I wouldn't bethere.
But no, you can't smell anythinginside.
(46:53):
But you can walk by somebody'sdoor and I'm like, damn.
SPEAKER_00 (46:57):
Yeah.
How's it going?
We got to wrap this up becausewe got to get a live sale.
But one more question moving on.
How's it going since the fire atthe loft and the cleanup?
Can you could you ever smellsmoke like in the in there?
SPEAKER_02 (47:11):
We didn't um knock on wood.
We had nothing, no negative.
It's everything is kind of underconstruction.
It's quite uh a lot of sheetrockdust.
Uh so I just keep towels down.
SPEAKER_00 (47:25):
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
What did you post a picture?
Or no, you were showing mesomething had gotten delivered,
and it was like the FedExpicture, like you know, they
snapped when they delivered it,and I was like, what is at your
door?
And you're like, oh, I keep atowel at your door, cut out all
of it.
So no dust comes in under yourdoor.
So you are so cut it out.
(47:46):
You are so weird.
SPEAKER_02 (47:48):
Well, we used to have, you know, in a good weird
well, that's the I mean, I'm I'mcertifiable nut job, but it's
okay.
I could be worse.
It's true.
SPEAKER_00 (48:00):
All right, we gotta pull this baby over.
We're going to work, we're gonnastart seconds.
SPEAKER_02 (48:03):
Well, damn, Heat.
You give me a completely sockevaluation, take my inventory,
and you're like, okay, Bango.
SPEAKER_00 (48:11):
I feel like this is maybe we're working through it
with some of our listeners too.
Maybe they're going, hell yeah,I need to appreciate and not
feel guilty for what.
SPEAKER_02 (48:20):
Just go out and waste all your money, is what
he's saying.
That is not just waste it all.
SPEAKER_00 (48:25):
That is not what I say.
And be very vulgar about it.
Enjoy it.
Enjoy it when you can afford it.
Burn through it when you haveyour accomplishments.
SPEAKER_02 (48:37):
Enjoy your accomplishments.
Just waste ever dumb you can getyour hands on and just feel good
about it.
Can I borrow some money?
SPEAKER_00 (48:48):
I'm kidding.
All right, we're gonna pull overand remember to watch us on the
Neste Fig app.
You can see my home and Stevensthis Sunday, 8 p.m.
Eastern, right there inside theNested Pig app.
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