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May 13, 2025 46 mins

Wesley and Steven recap their busiest-ever Mother's Day weekend at the garden store while sharing hilarious observations from unexpectedly encountering a furry convention in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Girl, did you bring a paddle Cause?
We need a boat to drive.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh, I thought you meant a paddle, cause we just
have been at the furryconvention, cause you're gonna
spank me.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
It's time for another episode of who's Driving.
Welcome to who's Driving.
I'm Wesley Turner and I'mStephen Merck.
We're two best friends andentrepreneurs.
Who's Driving is anentertaining look into the
behind the scenes of our lives,friendship and business.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
These are the stories we share and topics we discuss,
as two best friends would on along road trip.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer
a wide range of informativetopics centered around running
small businesses, social mediaand all things home and garden.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
You never know who's driving,or?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
where we're headed.
All we know is it's always afun ride, so we're in a boat
today.
Yeah, it is raining likesomething.
It's raining cats and dogs outthere crazy out there, oh my
goodness, but we're back at it.
You made out here.
We just survived a busy weekand weekend.

(01:07):
It was Mother's Day weekend.
Our busiest single weekend atthe garden store every year, and
this year was busier than allthe past.
Yes, so that's amazing.
It was good, it was very good.
I haven't been on today'sMonday.
We're recording this at thelast minute.

(01:28):
It comes out tomorrow, tuesday,so y'all are up to date on this
one.
I haven't been on social mediain like I don't know all weekend
because of being there anddoing Flower.
I mean, I posted a little bit ofthis and a little of that, but
nothing like crazy We've been sobusy Like I posted a little bit
of this and a little of that,but nothing like crazy.
We've been so busy Like I feellike it just caught up with me
today, like I just it did it'sjust like you let the air out of

(01:51):
a balloon Because it was a verybusy nonstop two weeks because
we went to High Point Market andgot back.
I think there was somethingright before High Point Market.
I can't remember that far backwe went to the High Point Market
.
I can't remember that far backwe went to the High Point Market
and came back and then I had togo to Tennessee and you held
things down.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
We were in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Then we went to Atlanta just at the beginning of
last week and then we hadMother's Day and it all just ran
together.
So last week, this time we werein Atlanta.
We went down.
They were having a I think wetalked about it on the last
episode we they were having whatthey call their sample sale.

(02:29):
This is where vendors sell offthings from their showrooms as
they're resetting for the season.
But we really went down to dolive sales.
We just knew more vendors wouldbe open.
So we were there.
What?
Monday, tuesday, wednesday?
I believe we came backWednesday night or Thursday
Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Wednesday night.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, so it happened again.
I feel like we talked aboutthis not that long ago, but it's
been years.
Podcast we brought it up notthat long ago, but it's been
years because I was like I don'tknow when that happened or when
we would have been there, butas we were leaving, the furry

(03:08):
convention was starting Someweird people.
Listen, we may have some furrypeople If we do?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I want to know, listen outside, looking in, got
weird.
But we want to talk to you.
But I mean I'm fine with weird,I mean it's your business, but
to me, you know, I just don'tget it.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
So if you are part of our members only community at
whosedrivingpodcastcom and youwatch the video version, I am
going to put up some clips thatwe took as we were leaving.
I wish, I really wish, we hadbeen there one more day, because

(03:58):
when we were leaving thefurries were showing up and so
we were.
We had to go back to the hotelto get our bags and our car and
we snuck a little footage foryou so you could see.
You know and this was again, Idon't think they really started
until Thursday so all the furryfriends I don't know what they

(04:20):
would call furry friends is whatI'm going to call them were
showing up.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
It's called FWA Furry Weekend, atlanta.
Okay, oh, and it is at theMarriott Marquis.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, it's the Marriott and the Hyatt which are
connected, but it is theMarriott is where the convention
is.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yes, I'm reading, but what I?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
found.
Uh, I don't know, I don't notodd or funny or whatever, but
like some of the furries again,if you're in our members only
community you can see this inthe clips Some of them just wear
parts and bits Like they mighthave a um, what would you call

(05:06):
the head part on?
It's like a head.
Yeah, like an animal head, likea dog or whatever it is, but
then regular clothes andeverything else.
But then some of them are infull costume, like a oh my gosh,
what's the word?
Like a mascot costume.
Some of them it's just the head, some of them it's the head,

(05:26):
but they might have on hands andfeet but regular clothes, and
then some of them it is a full.
You can't tell anything.
Like I said, like a mascot fora football team or something
like that.
So it's very interesting andthey have all of these like
organized I think, likeconference things going on and I

(05:48):
don't know.
You join us over at it is thewho's driving podcast dot com.
You can see a little cosplay.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
These, it says.
These events typically featurea variety of activities,
including panels, workshops,fursuit parades, gaming rooms
and social events.
It's where furries cansocialize, connect with others
and participate in activitiesrelated to their shared passion.

(06:21):
To their shared passion.
Furry conventions often offerpanels and workshops related to
fandom, such as art, writing,fursuit making and more so it's
workshops making your furrycostumes.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
So just all things furry.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Uh-huh and gaming rooms where attendees play board
games, video games and roleplaying.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, okay, I have a question, though I was thinking
about this in the shower, of allplaces, okay, so if you again
watch the video, you'll see alltypes.
They all have on their costumesand they're walking around,
like one of them has is a dog,that's a furry and it has it's,
I guess, like I don't knowperson walking it, like I think

(07:17):
it's on a leash, and the personis dressed up almost like a
zookeeper type person, like ahandler, I guess is what this
person would be called Closestthing I can think of.
But here is my question who inthe furry world?
There's all of these people andthey all have on these costumes
.
So like there are a lot of dogsand I don't know.

(07:38):
But what if someone shows upwith the exact same costume?
Does that matter?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
I don't know that you would.
I don't know that that wouldhappen because they're just
going to be modified in some way.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, the way I'm readingthrough stuff.
And there is a 6-2-1 rule forfurries.
What is that?
A rule that mandates thefollowing Six hours of sleep per

(08:06):
night, two meals per day, oneshower per day.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
That's like the minimum requirements or
something, yeah yeah.
How are they going to know?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't know that, but it's in here multiple times
the 6-2-1 rule.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
So you must.
I don't know what if you wantto take more than one shower a
day.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
I don't know, I think that's the minimum.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Oh, that's the minimum.
Someone I know someone outthere is a furry.
Come on, Text us on our hotlineor call us 864-982-5029.
864-982-5029.
It's always in the show notes864-982-5029.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I don't know how to say this word.
Furries are fans ofanthro-pimorphic animals.
These are animals with humancharacteristics, like Mickey
Mouse, Sonic, the Hedgehog andmany mascots for sports teams.
Furries are part of a greaterfurry fandom.

(09:10):
Besides referring to fans asthese anthro-whatever characters
, furries are also the anthrocharacters themselves.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
None of that made sense to me, but okay.
None of that made sense to me,but okay.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
And they're not.
They are, it says, are furriesLGBTQ, while not all furries are
LGBTQ, plus A significantportion Of the furry community
Identify as such.
I think you should become afurry Ruff.
I Meow, I think you.

(09:49):
No, no, I think you should thatshould be.
I think you should become afurry.
Okay, I think I'll put you on aleash.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Oh my gosh and walk me around.
Yeah, maybe, like maybe you ona leash.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh my gosh and walk me around.
Yeah, maybe, like maybe you'rea bull.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I didn't see any like bulls.
Is that what you said?
How do?

Speaker 2 (10:16):
I know if I'm a furry .
Listen listen, I think youwould know right.
To each their own.
Listen, listen.
I think you would know.
Right To each their own.
Listen, you do you.
I just don't get it.
I don't get it either.
I don't get it.

(10:36):
And that doesn't mean it'swrong, no, it just means my
country ass does not get thisLike it does.
I would be miserable.
I would be hot, I would besweaty.
My country ass does not getthis Like it does.
I would be miserable.
I would be hot, I would besweaty.
I would be.
I would be very angry.
I would not be a good furry.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, you sweat very easily.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I sweat like a whore in church.
That is a southernism.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's a southernism that sounds so vulgar, though
You've never heard of that.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, I was sweating like a whore in church, I know,
but I don't like it.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't like the word , the word, the first word.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
It makes me like cringe a little.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I guess you could be a slut in the synagogue.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
See, that doesn't bother me as much.
Slut's not as bad, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't know.
Yeah, that is kind of a crudeSouthernism, but I've got our
Southernism segment ready.
Whenever you're ready, we'vegot it.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
We'll dive right on into that.
Whenever he loves theSouthernism, do you?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
like that went over like a turd in the punch bowl.
That means it was very awkward.
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Have you heard that?
No, I've never heard that one.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
That's a South Carolina one for sure, Lord.
That went over like a turd inthe punch bowl.
I've never heard that.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Oh my gosh.
You just never know what'sgoing to come out of your mouth.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Listen, if you're moving here or you've relocated
here, you need to know what allthese things mean.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
But I've never heard that one so.
I don't think you're going tobe hearing that one.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Oh yes, that is a big South Carolina one.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Oh yeah, Let us know.
I don't know about that one.
Let us know if that's oneyou've heard before and where
you're from.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, if you heard Turd in a Punchbowl.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Let's just go into our Southernisms.
What else you got over there?
This?

Speaker 2 (12:39):
is one.
Now.
I heard this my whole life, soI don't know if you've heard
this one.
This one is not as vulgar.
Have you ever heard?
Well, if I had my druthers, Iwould.
If I had my druthers, I wouldnot be here on this rainy day.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, I have heard that.
And is druthers an actual word?
Druthers is not.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
And what is that Druthers is not?
And what is that Druthers means?
I would rather.
I would rather be home in mywarm bed than be here on this
rainy day.
But where did druthers comefrom?
We've shortened it Druthers, ifI would rather.
Oh, druthers, druthers.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Druthers yeah, see, that's one of those that in
college I would have been liketrying to type it out and I'd
have been, like you know, likerurnt.
I was like rurnt, rurnt, rurnt.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Druthers means I would rather.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
I would rather.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
So if you're in the South or you're relocating here
and somebody in your neighborsays, if or you're relocating
here and somebody in yourneighbor says if I had my
druthers you wouldn't park thattruck there, it means I would
rather you not park that truckright there.
Okay, so, we understand, we canuse druthers.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I knew druthers just from knowing it, but I never
thought about what does druthersmean?
Because what?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
about this one.
I know you've heard this one.
I've got a hankering for a hotdog Hankering.
I got a hankering.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Like a craving Craving.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, yeah, where's that word come from?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Hankering, I don't know.
See, that's something else Itry to spell Hankering.
I got a hankering.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I've got a hankering.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Hankering, hankering.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Now here's one.
Is hankering a word Hankering?
I guess I need to find out.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I mean, I'm going to ask chat GPT this one, so I can
just say it on here.
Let me find out if, let me dothe one where it talks Is that
how?
Yeah, yeah, let's see.
Yep, it sure is.

(14:51):
Hankering means having a strongdesire or craving for something
.
Like you might say you have ahankering for some homemade
sourdough bread.
Well, thank you.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
So it is a word.
It is a word Now.
This one has two meanings.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
This next one, the third one, we should ask ChatGPT
to tell us a southernism of theday and see if it can tell us
something.
But we'll continue on withyours.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, yeah, we'll ask that next.
If somebody says Lord, mybrother came by here and he was
so tore up over um, losing thatmayor's election, that means

(15:41):
upset a tore up.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
Is that a southernism ?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
that's a southernism no, it's not yes it is that was
in the southern livingsouthernisms he's tore up tore
up about it.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
He's tore up about it .

Speaker 2 (15:53):
He's tore up about it .
That's a Southernism.
Yes, Other people don't sayhe's tore up about it.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Do you not?
No, Do they not no?
See that one?

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I feel like surely other people say Well now
there's two meanings of tore up.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Not tore up from the floor up, not like drunk tore up
.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
That's toe up, that's different.
But this another tore up is oh,I ate those tacos last night
and they tore me up.
See, that's tore me up, or Iwas tore up from those tacos.
Yeah, that means you were onthe toilet.

(16:34):
You got the shit, then if it'sjust, oh, he was so tore up that
would be upset.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
He was just very upset, tore up about it.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I'm just so tore up about it.
I'm just tore up about it andit's made me have a hankering
for a skins hot dog.
Oh my gosh, if I had my upabout it.
And it's made me have ahankering for a Skins hot dog.
Oh my gosh, if I had mydruthers I would be eating one
right now.
You almost need a Southerndictionary if you're around.
If I said that at my familygathering, everybody would go,

(17:11):
they wouldn't be like, theywouldn't question it at all.
What's there to question?
If I said that at my familygathering, everybody would go,
mm-hmm, they wouldn't be like,they wouldn't question it at all
no.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
What's there to question?
No, no, Not at all.
We need to drop you offsomewhere.
I had my druthers.
We need to drop you off in likeNew York City.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
So, tina, uh-huh, Savannah Tina.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Our franchisee.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Married when she was first with her husband.
We were talking about thisyesterday, okay, and she said to
him one day this would havebeen when they were first dating
.
Uh-huh.
She said if I had my druthers Iwould.
And he said what in the helldid you?
Just say, because he grew up inthe city, he's a city boy.

(18:05):
And she said I would ratherdruthers.
So I mean, you need to knowthese things.
If you move here, you're goingto be really called off guard
one day and not know whatsomebody's saying.
That's right.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
First of all is.
Southernism an actual word Achat.
Gpt gave me some.
Oh, this is a good one.
You haven't mentioned yet whatFull as a tick.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Full as a tick Mm-hmm .
That means I ate way too muchgravy and biscuits.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
I'm full as a tick on a hound dog.
On a hound dog They've beensucking blood and just full as a
tick.
She's madder than a wet hen.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Madder than a wet hen .

Speaker 1 (18:50):
All those were on this list.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
This one yonder have you not mentioned yonder, yet I
think we've talked about yonderYonder's, this one yonder.
Have you not mentioned yonderyet?
I think we've talked aboutyonder.
Yonder is over there, overyonder.
I'll be honest with you.
I never said that word.
My mother would.
No, I never said over yonder.
If I did I might have when Iwas little, not in front of my

(19:14):
mother.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
I've never said yonder either.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
If I did.
I don't remember it, but youknow, I said I called my
grandmother Ma.
I mean, when I was little.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
That is as southern as you can get, ma yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Well, I couldn't say Like she was grandmama or
grandmother and couldn't say allthat so it was too much for you
, ma ma, and then, as I gotolder and way more articulate, I
expanded that to mama, mama.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
So I had mama and mama, oh, you were just getting
as creative as can be, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
That's what I always called her.
Mama, mama, mama Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I had a mama and I had a grandma.
I had a grandmother and a mama.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
But now she, no, my mama.
She did not allow grandma,you're not calling me grandma.
Mm-hmm, mm-mm.
Miss Bobby wouldn't have letyou have called.
Allow grandma, you're notcalling me grandma.
Miss Bobby wouldn't have letyou have called her grandma.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Oh no, you'd have probably got the shit swept out
of you.
No, no, it was going to begrandmother proper, and my mama.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
let me by with calling her mama, because I just
couldn't say it.
You were just her favorite.
No, I wasn't.
Oh, okay, no, I wasn't her mama, because I just couldn't say it
, you were just her favorite.
No, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
No, I wasn't her favorite, but I couldn't say it.
And she was like well, it wasspecial because you're the only
one that called me that?
Oh, you're the only one thatcalled her mama, there were only
three grandchildren and theother two called her Grandmama.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Grandmama, that's too much.
I'm grand mama, well, nodifferent than grandmother.
It seems like it's an extrasyllable or something in there,
grandmother?
No, I guess not, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
This sounds like a lot for me I don't know, I don't
know what the difference ingrand mama or grandmother and
grandma is.
They're all I mean, it's all,you grand, you old.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
You don't have to be old to be a grandmother, oh no,
not around these parts.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
And you got that right Around these parts, you
might be in your 30s.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Oh my gosh, that could be anywhere too.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Listen, there are people and I hope they're not
listening, but it doesn't matterif they are you, do you?

Speaker 1 (21:37):
But people I went to high school with that were
literally grandparents at like40 something, oh no, like late
30s, really yes, I mean, if youhave a kid when you're say 16,
and then they have one At 16,and then they have one At 16,
that's 32.
So if you have it at 18 and 18,that's just 36.

(22:00):
Exactly, oh, I still don't feellike I could have a kid and I'm
44.
You couldn't.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
It would be, dss would have already came and got
it.
No, that is not true.
It wouldn't be.
It would.
It would.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
It would.
You're just an ass.
No, you're.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
No, you're not.
You're not responsible likethat I am.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
So what else you got going on?
So we just finished Mother'sDay, which was super busy,
thankfully.
It was good, yeah, and a coupleof business things.
So I have been we talked aboutthis in our live sales, but if
you haven't watched them lately,you need to.
We are.
I have been busy also behindthe scenes working on a new app

(22:48):
and we are this close.
Around the 1st of June sometimewe're going to have a new app
launch.
So if you do have the NestedFig app for our online store,
just make sure you put it inyour brain around the 1st of
June that we are going to switchit and if you have an iPhone,
it will just be an update.
So you just have to hit update,yeah, and if you have automatic

(23:08):
updates on, it will just update.
If you have an Android phone,you're going to have to get an
iPhone.
No, no, if you have an Androidphone, you are going to have to
go to your app store and searchthe nested fig and download the
whole new app.
But I've been working on that.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
And why do people have Androids?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I think it's probably whatever you get used to.
You know like you started withone and then, because what's
crazy?
I can't work an Android phone.
Someone hands me one or asks mehow to do stuff on it and I'm
like it is so foreign to me andit's not.
As for me, it's not asintuitive as an iPhone has

(23:47):
always been to me.
An iPhone's always been supereasy to use.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Well, in 1991 is when I started clemson did they even
have cell phones then?
No, no, no, no.
But I was like my mother.
My mother worked for thecomputer center at the
university um, she could have atthat time a, a desktop at home

(24:12):
and a laptop, which means I hada laptop and it was an Apple, a
Mac at that time.
It was really so.
At Clemson back in 91, we hadMac labs and we had PC labs.
I was used to Mac, yeah.
So even in 91, there was such adifference between Mac and the

(24:36):
Macs and PCs.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, like I couldn't .
But you know, then it was likereally different and then I felt
like they can't become a littlebit similar?
They did, and then I always hada Windows computer.
But somewhere along the wayaround the update of Windows I
don't even know what they're on,or called now 10, whatever the
one.
After that I couldn't, itdidn't make sense to me anymore

(25:01):
how to navigate and find stuffas easy.
It's like it got veryconvoluted when they started
putting all these little likeicon, picture, like menu.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Well, PCs tried to be more like Mac.
It wasn't as straight to bemore like it wasn't
straightforward.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
And then I switched to mac computers and now when we
go to like the retail stores,we have pc computers and stuff
and if something goes wrong andI'm like this is so foreign to
me, I do not even know how towork on it, so I've gotten left
behind in that kind of area.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
When I was at Clemson , I worked during the week for
the computer center.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
And I had to learn to use everything.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yeah, back and forth.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
And that's how.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I used to be back and forth.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
And now the.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Windows ones are just .
I just don't think like they doanymore.
It was awful.
But I got you back on using Macbecause that's what we got for
the live sale.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I use both now.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, so now you use both.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I didn't use Mac.
I switched from Mac to PCs fora long time because McDonald's
softwares were not compatiblewith Mac.
So all those years I you know,after Clemson I went solely PC,
away from Mac, and then and nowI use both.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
And that's the good thing.
Nowadays, so much stuff iscloud based to like, you can use
it on whatever.
But anyway, back to.
We're getting a brand new appand it's going to be also where
we do our live sales.
That's where we currently doour live sales, but we're having
to switch.
We haven't been.
I don't know.
Our current provider isn'tkeeping up the way that we have

(26:49):
to, but I'm a little nervousabout switching.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well, I'm nervous about not switching and I'm
nervous about switching.
Well, I'm nervous about notswitching and I'm nervous about
switching.
And you know I've told this onhere that I aged out in
McDonald's you know, eventuallybecause we used to get it seems
like we got new register systemsway too much and in my last
five years of ownership I waslike I'm out, I don't need to

(27:13):
know how to.
I don't need to know how totake an order.
Yeah, I don't.
Maybe it was the last threeyears.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
I was like I'm not learning this?
Anymore.
It was the last five, the lastthree.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
you didn't even show up, that's not true, but I, I
said I'm not doing it, and sonow I'm like, oh God, I've got
to learn one A new program.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
I know that's what I'm not.
I'm not nervous, I'm justnervous about it being different
.
You don't know the ins and outsof something until you get into
it.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Well, the good thing is our inventory part in the
back background is the same.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
It's going to be the same system, so that's going to
make things better.
I couldn't learn both at thesame.
It's going to be the samesystem, so that's going to make
things better.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
I couldn't do, I couldn't learn both at the same
time something new and somethingnew.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
So I'm just hoping that it's, all you know, smooth,
because I'm the one headingthis up.
Steven just lets me head thissort of thing up in the
technology department.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
And if it goes wrong I can go what the hell blame me?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
technology department , and if it goes wrong I can go.
What did you do?
He'll blame me for it.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yes oh my gosh.
No, there's always going to bea little glitch.
Yeah, it's just the way it is.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I'm excited because there's new programs, like I've
been working on one today thatwe'll be able to launch with it.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I'm excited about one .

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, that's what I was working on today.
Yeah, that's what I was workingon today.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
There's going to be a new loyalty program with it.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So you get points.
Steven is a point hoe.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Is that how you use it?
Yes, you can call me whateveryou want.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
He loves points.
The loyalty programs were madefor Steven were made for Steven,
Like when we check in to theMarriott.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
He is going to ask them to make sure he gets his
points at least 10 times beforewe leave the desk.
Oh, and then I get my folio,because sometimes they make
mistakes and you don't get yourpoints and don't think I don't
get on that phone and call andsay where are my points.
But you know they add up, theyreally add up and that's why I

(29:24):
mean it's just a bonus ofshopping.
Yeah, I mean in the past and Ido love.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
I love points too, but I'm just not that Like.
I give them my point number andif I get the points, I get it.
If I don't, I don't, I'm notgoing to.
I don't even check to see if Igot it.
Steven is going to check.
He'll be like I'm going down tothe desk, I didn't get my
points, I got to stop by thedesk on my way out, but it's
really good.
So this loyalty program thatwill be part of our new app sort

(29:52):
of thing, we can give points.
I was setting it up today.
So, like, there's points whenyou sign up to create your
account, there's points on yourbirthday, there's points when
you make a purchase, there'spoints If you refer a friend, if
you follow on Instagram, if youfollow on Facebook, so you can
add up a lot of points and thenyou can get free stuff yeah.

(30:14):
You can earn, like free shipping, you can get dollar amounts off
your order, I mean basicallylike a store credit for just
doing stuff, and so you know.
So I'm excited about that, andthere should be some more, um,
fun things that we can do on theapp that we haven't been able
to do on our current app so youknow now about it it's a.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Thing but it's been quite the project I think dylan
told I may be wrong He'll listento this and correct me but I
think I'm right.
One of the housewives wasgetting divorced and one of the
things that came up in thedivorce was the point.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
account On what On like an Amex or a Bonvoy?

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Don't quote me on this you know, looking back with
my ex, that's the only thing Idid not go after and I did not.
I was not smart on that.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
The points but is there enough to really matter?
I mean, are we really gettingthat it?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
was, it was a lot.
Yes, yes, we would have, yes,we would have, but you, know
that, right there is why itdidn't work out.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Huh, mm-hmm, that attitude right there.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
No, it was not my attitude, but it's funny, I know
it was your fault, Mm-hmm.
Oh my, you know, it's funnybecause of one of my really good
friends that's a retiredMcDonald's owner too, and he's
older you know, because most ofmy friends I mean McDonald's are

(31:47):
a lot older than me.
I mean a good bit.
You know, he's in his late 70sand he said we were and he keeps
up with his Marriott points.
And he said, yeah, I'm savingmy.
No, he's 78.
Why are you saving?
points I said what are you doingwith those?
And he was like I'm trying toget to 2 million.

(32:09):
And I said why?
And he said I don't know.
And I said, well, let's justtransfer those out into my
account because you can transfer.
Let's just put those in and youcan work back up to a million.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, I'm like why are you saving me?
But see, that's what happenswith these loyalty programs and
points, because it becomes likea game.
There's some psychology thereabout it is?

Speaker 2 (32:37):
It is like that, and now.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I Because, even with you, like we've had Amex points
and stuff and you'll be like,let's save them.
I don't want to use them forthis.
Our points are getting low.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
We need to save it up Well what I do is I have a
strategy with points.
It is.
It is strategic and I've alwaysbeen this way.
It is strategic and I've alwaysbeen this way.
If it's a short trip, if it's ashort or really short,
inexpensive flight, you're goingto pay for it, I'm going to pay
for it and get those points.
And if it's a short trip, I'mgoing to pay for it and get

(33:10):
those points.
Now, when you're at five daysor more, we're going to use
points.
Is that your strategy?
If the flight is more than $450, then we're talking points.
Is that how you work it out?

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, that's so funny to me.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
And if it's West Coast or Hawaii, it's got to be
points, because that getsexpensive.
I'm just telling you mystrategy.
There's a strategy that makesit work.
Yeah, and then I'll save themup.
You know, because, like threeyears ago now no, it was four

(33:56):
years ago we went to Hawaii.
I had saved my Marriott Bonvoypoints.
And we stayed 10 days at theWestin in Maui.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Do you realize?
I mean, we went to Hawaii in2021.
You just, I don't know.
I don't know until you lookback, but you had all those
points and we stayed there forfree.
And then we had Amex points andflew for free, like we went to
Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
First class and car rental.
We paid.
I added it up.
It would have been around$45,000 for that vacation
because we went first class.
We stayed at the Westin.
I mean the whole trip was firstclass, you and.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Dylan and me and.
Daniel, so there were four ofus in two rooms.
And we used points and we wentfor free.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yes, I want to do that again.
I rest my case.
So it does, so it does work, itworks, it does, and that's why
I'm excited that we can offerthat for our customers Because,
frankly, if you work for NeimanMarcus or something, I think
y'all need points.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Well, it's even just like this, not my favorite
company, but even like theStarbucks stars the points you
know.
Again, I'm not as point drivenas some are, but you know, when
I pull up there and I got enoughpoints to get a free drink, I'm
like it's exciting and when youpay a lot, I mean the problem

(35:34):
is.
Here's the problem with ourpoints.
We get too happy If you neverwatched our live sales.
We give shit away all the time.
We give away huge discounts.
We give away way more than weshould.
But that's what makes it fun, soI know we are going to be up on
our points being like oh,double points today, oh, get

(35:59):
your reward.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Hells.
Yeah, I'm getting on the pointprogram.
I'm going to be like I haveeight million points.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
What am I going to get me?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
You know I'm going to sign up for the points you are.
I'm going to have the points.
I'm going to be like.
I bought $480 worth of stufflast night.
How do I return this?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
One of the points you can do as a reward, too, is
just visiting our store, the appor the website.
If you just go to it, you get apoint.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
You can get one point per day, or ten points, I
forget what it is.
Kid, is there a way to tie itinto the retail stores?
No, it is Kid.
Is there a way to tie it intothe retail stores?
No, different thing, I mean.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
There's not a really crossover, yeah, you can't do
that, stick your ass somewhere.
That'll be update next timewhen you won't know how to keep
up yeah that's when I'll be out.

(37:04):
Speaking of business things,though, great news, as we've
been talking, you know, the lasthere and there episodes about
tariffs.
So today, again, not political,we're just stating the facts.
Talking tariffs, the tariffswere put on a pause.
Well, I think they were dropped, I don't know to 30 percent,
but that is so minimal, becausethere was already like a 20, 20%
, I don't know what it wasbefore, honestly, but basically,

(37:24):
for us, the tariffs have beenpaused for 90 days, which is
amazing, because one before thisjust happened.
Today.
Before, like yesterday, I wasthinking, oh, we need to talk
about the tariffs tomorrow.
I was after visiting the marketlast week.
I was starting to get a littlenervous.
I'm not going to lie.
I was getting nervous about notthe tariffs and what they were

(37:48):
going to cost us, but hearinghow vendors had everything on
hold, and so we're getting tothat kind of.
For us, the summertime is whenall of our holidays things start
coming in, so I left marketlike, oh't have it, if it
doesn't show up, then you can'tdo anything about it.

(38:09):
But luckily, today, you know,it was announced that they've
been paused for 90 days, whichis great for us.
Again, every industry isdifferent on their timing.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Here is what it is I just?
Pulled it up.
The US will temporarily, if Ican talk, lower its tariffs on
Chinese goods from 145% to 30%Right, and China will reduce its
levies on American productsfrom 125% to 10% Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
So now I want to look the article I read though and I
don't even know where it poppedup was fascinating because they
were specifically mentioning alike a faux Christmas tree
manufacturer that they hadinterviewed, and they were
saying how you know, like 30%would pretty much get absorbed

(39:23):
on the manufacturing and theimporter side and not really
amount to that much.
Maybe a few dollars orsomething increase as it goes
through the supply chain.
So I was like that is that wasfunny, that it specifically
related to our industry.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
It's really good because it was 25% before Now
it's just 30%.
And before China was 34% onAmerican goods, Now it's 10%.
So net-net, we're much better.
10 for 90 days.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
I'll take it.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
And again, it's not political, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
But so the 30% they were saying the article I was
reading would be very minute,you know, because there were
already tariffs and that sort ofthing before.
So it wouldn't be that big of achange and it would just be a
few dollars.
But for us in our, you know,home decor, seasonal decor

(40:25):
boutique, like I said, it'sdifferent for every industry
depending on the supply chain,timing or whatever, but this
gets us three months, gets usinto like August, and so most of
our vendors would haveeverything that we need already
here, pretty much anything wewould need through the end of

(40:49):
the year.
So I'm like, whew, maybe we canskate through 2025.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
And now the next hurdle will be spring 26.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, but hopefully they'll get it all worked out
before then.
But that was just, you know, arelief to be like, okay, let's
because we've had a very goodyear coming into 2025 this far,
and you know you just don't wantsomething to throw a big kink
in it.
25 this far, and you know youjust don't want something to

(41:19):
throw a big kink in it.
And, like I said, more thananything it's the talk about
tariffs that gets the consumergoing.
You know I don't know what todo.
It makes them nervous and thataffects things even before
tariffs.
You know kick in is like oh, doI need to do this?
Do I need to do that, whatever?
So I was excited that that.
So hopefully that can be onething off of our brain.
Not having to worry about.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, and I'm just glad that they are, like I said,
politics outside of it.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I'm just glad they're all working together because it
the problem now is everymanufacturer is going to, as
quickly as possible, try to getthings imported and it's going
to cause a backup, a backup atthe ports and then that becomes
an issue.
But we'll just deal with thatbut, like I said I think we

(42:05):
mentioned this before we're inour like everyday steady season
for the next, you know, throughthe summer.
So as long as we get ourholiday, those those ports are
going to be.
Don't you know?
Today they were trying to getus.
They will be hopping and apopping because they'll be

(42:26):
trying to get everything thatthey need, you know, before the
90 days are up.
It'll be interesting to see howthat continues to play out, but
I guess that's kind of the.
I mean, I guess there won't beany more update on the tariffs
until we see what happens in 90days.
Well, and hopefully-.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
We've kind of touched on it.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
So, like we talked in the last few episodes, we
really have skated around-.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Anything significant.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, I don't know of any.
Like I said on the last I thinkthe last episode one vendor was
saying hey, if you don't takeit by this date, there's going
to be a 20% tariff.
But I hadn't taken it and Idon't know if they'll take it
off.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
They should take it off.
Well, if they don't, that'sjust stealing.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Yeah, if they don't, I'm not going to take the order
specifically because I knowthose items were already in
stock when I ordered them and Ijust put a future ship date on
them.
So if they're like, no, youknow, blah, blah, blah, I'll
just be like we'll cancel thatorder and we'll just, you know,
move on to the next one andthere won't be a tariff or

(43:27):
something.
So I don't know, we'll see howthat goes, but I guess that's
kind of our run through of thetariffs until unless something
else happens hopefully they'restill gonna continue negotiating
yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm justsaying we probably won't hear
much, for unless something comesto the end at the 90 days and
it starts all over again orsomething, I mean hopefully by

(43:49):
the end they'll have it allresolved.
But yeah, for us, because ofthe supply chain timing and like
our vendors were holding off onbringing orders in and that
sort of thing, we didn't reallyget affected from the vendor
side.
I do think it made consumers alittle more, like you know.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Well, and I'm just happy, like for the technology
industry, the auto industry,everything would have been.
I mean it could have reallyjacked up everything, it is true
.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Well, we got to pull this.
I feel like this was a quickepisode.
How long have we been talking?
Like 40-something minutes.
Okay, we can pull this babyover.
I mean really, really, row, row, row your boat, I'm watching it
.
Rain, it is raining so hardtoday.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
We might as well keep talking, because I'm not going
out there.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
That is terrible.
We have got to get to ourretail store.
We are at our home store, theNested Big Home.
If you are local to Greenville,we're doing something we
haven't done in five years.
We are doing an in-store tagsale in our just kind of like
end of spring.
Yeah, it's been five years.

(45:05):
It's been five years sincewe've done this at our retail
store.
So if you are local toGreenville, I want to come into
the Nested Fig home this week.
Come grab some deals.
We have some like floor samplesand just things we want to
clean up.
You know we have all of ourmarket items coming in and we
thought you know what we haven'tdone that because we've done

(45:28):
like warehouse sales.
We got out of the house.
We didn't need it, yeah.
So we hadn't done that at theretail store in so long and
we're like you know what That'llbe fun.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Let's do that again.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
There's going to be some great deals.
So we're going to go up thereand tag items and get ready for
our tag sale.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Some blowout deals.
Starts tomorrow and goesthrough Sunday.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Yes, this week, so if you're local, come see us.
But it's time to pull this babyover.
Put the windshield wipers on,get your life jacket on your
galoshes and your rain jacketand let's go.
Let's get into the weather.
Let's do this, all right, bye.
Y'all.
See you next week.
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(46:13):
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Next week, we have to give awayour hydrate spark water bottle.
I'm going to do that this week.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
One of our online community members.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
So we'll do that.
Next week, any active memberwill pick one random and send
them a walk-on.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Whoever doesn't get it will be so torn up.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
So we'll do that next week.
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