September 30, 2025 • 39 mins
We talk Dinner in the Dahlias while bracing for rain, prep a week of Atlanta live sales, and bust the viral myth that dunking mums makes blooms last. Between bag trends, hybrid plant pitfalls, and a quick Pyramid game, we stay honest, useful, and a little unhinged.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Buckle up, big boy, let's go.
I've got a coffee.
I'm cracked out.
I'm ready to ride.
Are we actually recording?
I think so.
It's time for another episode ofWho's Driving?
Welcome to Who's Driving?
I'm Wesley Turner.
And I'm Steven Mert.
We're two best friends andentrepreneurs.
Who's Driving is an entertaininglook into the behind the scenes
(00:21):
of our lives, friendship, andbusiness.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
These are the stories we share and topics we
discuss as two best friendswould on a long road trip.
SPEAKER_01 (00:29):
Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer
a wide range of informativetopics centered around running
small businesses, social media,and all things home and garden.
SPEAKER_00 (00:38):
Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
You never know who's driving or where we're headed.
All we know is it's always a funride.
Yeah, you know, it wouldn't beunlike me to get all cracked out
and then not hit the recordbutton.
No, and it'd be actually justlike you.
And let's sit here.
So how's it been?
So we're having to, it feelskind of unusual because we have
(00:59):
been recording the podcast solast minute that I thought we
were going to end up recordingthe morning of the podcast if we
pushed it back any further.
But today is actually Friday.
The week before.
And this will come out onTuesday.
So it almost feels like what arewe doing?
SPEAKER_00 (01:18):
I don't even know.
Because we're going, Dylan and Iwill be in Atlanta doing live
sales next week.
Gifts.
Gift live sales.
So if you're listening to this,you better be shopping
ourselves.
SPEAKER_01 (01:28):
Yes.
So we are still in real timetomorrow, which is Saturday,
getting ready for dinner in thedahlias on the farm.
So Steven had to come out to thefarm anyway, because you know
we've enlisted him to help withsome things.
And we were like, okay, we alsohave to get our podcast recorded
because Steven is leaving onMonday, the day before this
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comes out, if you're keepingtrack.
Monday morning.
To go to Atlanta.
So next week, um, because youknow we have two dinner in
Adallias.
We have this one that's comingup and then one next week.
So all next week, Steven andDylan are gonna be in Atlanta if
you um have our app for thenested fig.
And they're gonna be doing livesales from the Atlanta market
(02:14):
and all over Atlanta, basically,at this point.
But you're focusing on somegreat gift items, Christmas
gifts, yeah.
And jewelry and bags.
Always gifts.
I want to know.
This is an interview we need tohave with I don't know, remember
women in general.
What do they do with all thesebags?
Bags and jewelry.
(02:36):
I mean, I am so thankful for allthese women and maybe some men.
I mean, because you've had allkinds of bags.
But they started Dylan.
I haven't even been to this bagwarehouse that you and Dylan
found.
It is fun.
It is, it is fun.
We got our friend Amanda.
Love you, Amanda.
(02:57):
Um, but y'all have gone down anddone these lives, and I haven't
gone there yet.
Cause, you know, y'all canhandle it, whatever.
Um, but the amount of bags thaty'all sell.
I'm like, can we just be a bagonline store?
Because, you know, well, and youknow they're easy to ship.
SPEAKER_00 (03:16):
Y'all can't get enough of it.
I I get a little of it becauseyou know, I have a few
addictions and I have a beltaddiction.
SPEAKER_01 (03:28):
But it is just like having apparel, like clothing.
It is you need variety and youneed ones that match.
And if I had to carry around adamn bag all the time, I would
want a new one all the time andI would want it to be pretty.
SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And when I moved last time, went10 years ago, when I moved from
my house and bought my loft, Ihad over a hundred pairs of
shoes.
No.
And donated that down to maybe20.
Oh, you were able to do that,Mister?
SPEAKER_01 (04:02):
Yeah, I I made my only child when I throw that in
there.
SPEAKER_00 (04:08):
But I'm like, But it just happens over time.
And I'm just man I'm just likeincrease them.
And the problem is, see, I'vecame up with it, and then I
realize, you know, because wehave um walk-in closet and for
in the in my bath master bath,and then we have a walk-in
(04:30):
closet in my office and awalk-in closet in the guest
room.
Well, I kind of take everything.
Yeah.
And I forget what I forget whatshoes, and you leave them in the
box.
SPEAKER_01 (04:43):
And you're like, oh, I found these.
I found these.
Yeah.
I do that from time to time.
I don't have that many shoes,but I of all the because we all
know I have tried threads aroundhere.
SPEAKER_00 (04:55):
I've tried my best to help this.
SPEAKER_01 (04:57):
But I do end up with shoes.
I that the shoes are the onethings that I will buy.
I don't have nice ones.
I mean, they're nice to someone.
You have had and just workedthem.
Okay, if they go on my feet,they're going wherever I go, in
whatever condition.
So, you know, Steven, he hasbeen somewhere and it started
(05:19):
raining, and he's like, Oh, mysuede shoes can't get wet today.
Um there are no stipulationsonce they go on my feet.
No, they I will take them.
Take them off and go barefoot.
SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
Hell yes.
In a parking lot.
Hell, I would walk in snow.
SPEAKER_01 (05:37):
No.
See, once the ship comes out ofthe box and goes on my foot, I
am wearing that shoe out.
No matter out, I mean out nomatter where I'm going.
SPEAKER_00 (05:47):
Out.
But I am not going to completelyruin my shoes.
SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
No, I'm not.
So anyway, I don't know.
I shoes are my one thing that Ibut I haven't gotten any new
ones in a long time.
Like, I need some new, like fun,funky ones.
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
I see how women buy bags, yeah.
And and jewelry too.
Like, you wear it, you get tiredof it, and and the good thing
is, is like when you're buyinglike decent costume jewelry,
you're not breaking the bank.
So you can afford to have avariety.
(06:23):
Yeah.
And then and then pass it on.
SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
I'm just so thankful.
So if y'all are listening, thisis was the point.
If you don't have the nested figapp yet, go to your app store
for your phone or tablet,Android or Apple.
We are there.
Search the Nested Fig.
Get the app.
It is where it's at.
Um, and Steven and Dylan will belive a bunch next week in the
lap in the app.
(06:46):
You'll be able to find somegreat things there.
Um, so yeah, so then next weekI'll be getting ready for
another dinner in the dahlias.
But you know, framework shouldbe set.
Last week's podcast, I talkedabout, oh, dinner in the dahlias
is coming up this weekend orwhatever.
And I said, Oh, the weather islooking great.
No rain.
(07:06):
Well, now there's a chance ofrain.
So we'll let you know.
The crazy thing is how thatgoes.
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
Is the hurricane.
There's a hurricane.
SPEAKER_01 (07:16):
Now there's a hurricane that may come through
here next week as this comesout.
Um, which is, you know, whathappened last year, and it was a
complete I don't know.
It's just uh, you know what?
It's the way it goes.
You just gotta go with it.
Daniel's out there right now aswe speak, cleaning out the barn
because we might be piled inthere having dinner.
(07:36):
Dinner in the barn is where it'sgonna be.
Dinner in the dirt.
Dinner in the dirt.
Yes, that's funny.
Dinner in the dirt.
Oh my gosh.
Um, okay, I have something Iwant to circle back around to.
Oh, please circle back around.
I know.
Oh, it's on my notes here.
No, this is a this is my ick ofthe week.
(07:59):
I'm moving on past um, you know,social media icks that get me
down.
I'm moving past the pumpkins.
We already talked about that.
We gotta circle back around tomoms, though, because it's mom
season.
And we talked about a fewepisodes ago how to pick out a
mom that's gonna last.
(08:20):
But the ick is, and this startedlike two years ago, is the
people who are doing reels onhow to get your mums to last all
season.
You bring them home, you fill upa five-gallon bucket of water,
and you drop your mom in thereand let it soak for 30 minutes,
and your mom's will last allseason.
SPEAKER_00 (08:41):
Not true.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, yourmom can only drink so much at
one time.
The other thing with dunking itis just like we talked about,
you can easily break all yourmom completely apart.
SPEAKER_01 (08:58):
And I'm like, uh, I want to create an account and
start countering, like remixingeveryone's reel.
And it's not like I know it all,but I'm like, you are setting
people up for failure, and yousome person, and I remember the
first time I saw it, and it wasa lady that I know that is, um,
(09:20):
anyway.
SPEAKER_00 (09:21):
That tells my issue with her is not her personally.
Well, I really don't like hernow because of what she does,
but she sets people up to fail.
I mean, she gives incorrect somelisten.
Sometimes there's a a millionways to skin a cat, but
sometimes there isn't.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (09:42):
So think about okay, here is the truth behind moms.
Moms are thirsty, moms like tobe watered, okay?
They also don't like to sit inwater.
So moms are typically potted ina very light, airy potting soil,
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which means they will also dryout a little quicker than some
other plants.
That just means you have towater your mom more often.
When you dunk a mom in your sinkor a five-gallon bucket, like
Steven said, it can only drinkup so much water, and your soil
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can only hold so much water.
So think of it as if you take akitchen sponge and soak it in
your kitchen sink.
That sponge can only get so wet.
You can't leave it there forthree hours and it get and it
holds more water.
It's only gonna hold a certainamount of water.
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And then if you take that spongeand pull it out of your sink and
hold it in the air, all thewater is gonna drain out.
And it's only gonna maintain andkeep a set amount of water in
that sponge.
And that's the same way theplant and the soil works.
So I guess the concept behindputting it in the bucket could
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be you are deep watering it orgetting it, you know, to really
absorb the water, but you canalso do that by just watering
the mom.
SPEAKER_00 (11:23):
Or putting it in a saucer and let it wick it up.
That's honestly the safest witha mom.
SPEAKER_01 (11:29):
And that way you won't break the mom because mums
are bred to have as many bloomsand be branched as possible, and
they're very weak nowadaysbecause they are meant to be a
show plant for a very shorttime.
Oh, they are hybrids of hybridsof hybrids of hybrids.
SPEAKER_00 (11:47):
Yeah, that's how they come up with all the cool
colors.
SPEAKER_01 (11:50):
Break.
And if you look, a lot of mumsnow will have netting, like they
grow them in netting down inthere.
It's real fine.
That's so that they won't fallapart and break.
And when as your mum does bloomout, it's best to just go ahead
and train yourself to water themum from the side.
Meaning, if you're watering itwith a water hose or a watering
can, water it at the soil level.
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Don't pour it over the top ofthe mum.
SPEAKER_00 (12:14):
It will pop, it will break.
SPEAKER_01 (12:15):
It will break from the weight of the flowers.
And then also putting water onthe flowers like that because
there's so many petals can causelike a botrytis, like a fungus
mold, um, which will cause yourblooms to die faster, too.
So that is my well, let's takeit a step further.
SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
Let's take it a little step further.
Also, with the mums, you youcan't you can deadhead it all
you want, right?
But it's not gonna put out.
SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
That was the other one I saw, which we talked about
that too.
Like the buds that you see onthe plant are the buds that
plant is gonna have for thisyear.
SPEAKER_00 (12:52):
Not like a petunia.
SPEAKER_01 (12:53):
Yeah, it's not gonna regrow.
I did see another reel that waslike, and deadhead them every
day for blooms all summer long.
SPEAKER_00 (13:03):
You can deadhead them so they're prettier and
don't have dead blooms, butyou're not gonna get another
bloom.
It's true.
That's it.
It's done.
Show's over.
SPEAKER_01 (13:13):
So that's the best way to say it.
SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
Shows over.
So let's take it to the nextlevel.
We're talking about moms, we'retalking about how they have been
um hybridized, hybridized.
I mean, on top, you know, it's ahybrid of a hybrid of a hybrid
of a hybrid.
So that means they're weak.
There's they they're all plants,all trees get weak as as they
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you know become hybridized.
SPEAKER_01 (13:43):
And you're not going Steven, I know we're he doesn't
do not plant them.
Please don't plant them.
Just don't.
You're planting a problem.
You are planting a problem.
That is true.
SPEAKER_00 (13:59):
You are, you are planting a problem.
SPEAKER_01 (14:02):
And and you might get them to bloom a little bit.
Now, there are, okay, I'm gonnasay this.
There are perennial moms.
If you go back and get some ofthe loom varieties, those are
the ones you should plant inyour garden and um or yard, and
they'll bloom and be gorgeous.
(14:23):
But the ones that you those arethe ones your grandmother had.
Yeah, the ones you bought atHome Depot, your local grocery
store, just throw them away whenthey're dying.
SPEAKER_00 (14:32):
And I tell people, just from my life, okay, since
I've been alive, there's beenthe red tips.
If you're 50 or older, youremember everybody had to have
the red tips.
And they were beautiful and theywere pretty.
SPEAKER_01 (14:48):
That was probably a southern thing.
SPEAKER_00 (14:50):
We had those damn things down our driveway, you
name it.
SPEAKER_01 (14:54):
They all got diseased.
SPEAKER_00 (14:55):
A blight hit them.
I've never seen anything die soquick in all my life.
And then the next uh one of myfavorite hybrids uh are the
Bradford pear trees.
SPEAKER_01 (15:07):
Oh my gosh.
That have taken over.
You know, they'll pay you herenow to cut them down.
SPEAKER_00 (15:12):
Well, and after they start producing, I don't know if
you've seen this, they grow andthey have thorns about this long
that will puncture.
They are so strong, they willpuncture the tire of a tractor.
Do you know what how strong howit's like a nail.
SPEAKER_01 (15:29):
But see, what happened was, what happened was
they hybridized those and youknow, grew them in some nursery
somewhere, Bradford, Mr.
Bradford, I'm sure.
No, I'm just kidding.
And they had great shape, theygrew quick, whatever.
Well pretty blooms.
Put them out in the world, andthey were supposed to be
(15:50):
sterile, but they're not.
And so they also spread, they'reinvasive, and they kind of
convert back to the original,and now they're just taken over.
SPEAKER_00 (16:01):
Oh, if you let them go, they grow thorns that are
literally uh wouldn't you saythree to five inches, some like
if they get big.
Yeah, and lit, I mean,literally, you can't even pay
people to take them down.
Like they become they're they'rea huge problem.
The other thing is they'reextremely weak.
(16:23):
So during you know an ice storm,they drop like toothpicks, just
all the branches just come down.
Yeah, and then my other favoritehybrid of all time, these are
the top ones that and there'smany more.
I mean, we we won't even getinto roses and flowers because
there's there's lots there, isthe Leyland Cypress.
SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
Oh, yeah.
Leland cypress.
Now they're all dying out.
You gotta get an arborvitae now.
Yes, those would be next.
SPEAKER_00 (16:53):
And the way, but the way to make sure you're not
buying a problem, and this iswhat I always tell people is
make sure you're not buying ahybrid.
Yeah, you know, get there's areason.
There's a reason that yourgrandparents had these big,
beautiful trees that lastedhundreds of years, and and these
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plants that lasted, they weren'tmessed with.
You start messing with them.
SPEAKER_01 (17:19):
We gotta have this color, you gotta have this
color.
I want my blood to be longer, Iwant it to be shorter, I want it
to be a taller plant, I want itto be a bushier plant, and then
you just create a mess.
SPEAKER_00 (17:30):
I asked Wesley one time.
I asked Wesley.
No, you actually answered thissomewhat, no, very
intelligently.
Usually he can't.
I'll be.
I will be.
I love when I travel to go to abotanical garden wherever, you
know, if I can go to a watergarden or a botanical, any kind
of garden, I'm gonna go.
(17:51):
And if I see a plant that I'mnot familiar with, I will text
it to this dumbass that has ahorticulture degree from
Mississippi State.
And I don't know who the dean isthere.
I hope they listen to this.
But he don't know anythingbecause he'll say, I don't know
what that is.
(18:12):
Well, why?
But anyway.
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
Okay, let me explain why and defend myself before you
tell how I it evidently one timegot it right.
Nothing.
Okay, that's not horticulture.
I didn't know that's turfmanagement.
That's turf management, and Idon't like grass.
I don't want anything to do withit.
I don't want to have to mow it.
I'm not fertilizing it, I'm notkeeping it green.
(18:36):
I'm not running a golf course,and I don't give a damn.
But anyway, no.
When I when you get ahorticulture degree, you're
gonna learn the plants in yourclimate.
So I went to Mississippi State,which is very similar to here in
South Carolina.
So we have the same plants, andI know those.
(18:57):
I don't know what grows inArizona or California because I
don't live there.
SPEAKER_00 (19:03):
And horticulture is very much I mean, it's
different, but it's very muchlike medicine.
SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
Yeah, and that's like me going to Washington
State and asking you real estatelaws, and you'd be like, I don't
know.
I don't I don't do real estatethere.
SPEAKER_00 (19:18):
Well, and and I've said this on here before.
I took all my electives atClemson, and why I didn't, I
kept doing it, I have no idea.
But it, you know, I've alwaysloved plants and and and
gardening.
So I thought it would be fun umto take all my electives in
(19:40):
horticulture and landscapedesign, and I just randomly
picked classes, they might be100 level, maybe 300 level.
Well, I thought it'd be easy,and I took plant anatomy.
SPEAKER_01 (19:57):
That's a lot of fun and picked that shit.
SPEAKER_00 (20:00):
It was so hard.
Because I was like, this wouldbe easy.
SPEAKER_01 (20:04):
Leaf, you know, petal.
Okay, and here is the genuinething too about me and my
horticulture degree.
I I don't even need it.
I don't know why I got it.
No, I didn't know what to do.
I mean, I love it's valuable tohave it.
It's valuable, it is veryvaluable.
But like I think I said on theprevious or recently, there's so
many different categories.
(20:25):
You can work at a botanicalgarden, you can work in
landscape and landscape design,you can work in a lab or
creating plants or hybridizingor yeah.
And I really my whole part wasthe design aspect of it.
Floral design, potting.
(20:46):
Like I like the pretty side ofplants.
Like I can plant a hell of acontainer.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00 (20:52):
Well, and getting back to my point.
Um, so you just took on this.
SPEAKER_01 (20:57):
No, my point was there were a lot of things like
plant anatomy that I don't Idon't remember anything from
that.
I don't want to.
I do.
I remember the apical meristem.
Yeah, well, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (21:10):
I remember a few.
SPEAKER_01 (21:11):
And if you cut that out of a tree, it will bush.
It will burn or a plant, it willbush.
Um, but there were like labswhere it was on the cellular
level, like plant anatomy, likethe lab part.
SPEAKER_00 (21:23):
It gets really well, that's in plant anatomy too.
It gets, y'all, it gets reallycomplicated.
I was like, I don't I'm a visualperson, and it really gets
honestly down to that medicaltype level because a plant is
essentially very much like thehuman body when you break it
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down to a cellular, cellularlevel.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:48):
Obviously, there's differences, but it's that
intricate and and they're tryingwhen you're going through, you
know, you you're hitting all ofthat because then you decide
what path you're going to.
Are you gonna go work in a labor you're gonna need all of
this?
Didn't that not work?
I was like, can I go back tofloral design?
I need to go back to my floralclass and play with flowers.
SPEAKER_00 (22:10):
And I need to take my ass right on back to the
economics, the economicsclasses, because I did that was
my my area.
But Wesley explained it to me,and I was like, why are hybrids
always a problem?
I don't care if it's a rosebush, I don't care what it is,
they're you know, and they're insometimes they last for 10
(22:33):
years.
Yeah, but then there's aproblem.
And he was like, They haven'tweathered the storm.
It's kind of like human beingsand viruses.
It's like you have there, it'slike a newborn baby that hasn't
weathered the storm.
Whereas your oak trees and youknow, all of your stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (22:52):
Did I say that?
SPEAKER_00 (22:53):
Yeah, sounds smart.
It's but it's I must have beenhaving a moment.
You yeah, it was it you wereyounger is before your brain got
worse.
But I mean, it makes sense.
Like you know, from a cellularlevel, I think they're just
weaker.
Yeah, they are to d to diseaseand and so on.
SPEAKER_01 (23:13):
And there's you know, if you're doing it in,
say, a petunia, which you'regonna replace every year,
doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter as much.
But you know, when or a mom thatyou're gonna replace every year.
Exactly.
Or a poinsettia that you'regonna throw away after
Christmas.
Those don't matter becausethat's a production show thing.
It's when it does become like inyour landscape plants, that's
(23:37):
where it becomes a thing.
An issue.
An issue.
Oh gosh, I don't know how we gotoff on that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:44):
But anyway, that it's good to know.
What so when you're plantingstuff in your yard, go go pure.
Go as pure as you can.
Just mind most of that.
SPEAKER_01 (23:52):
I remember in Mississippi State I had to take
plant and fungi kingdom as thecourse.
Oh god, that sounds like ablast.
It was only offered every otheryear in the spring at 6 30 a.m.
6 30?
Maybe it was six.
Yeah, I had an eight o'clockclass after it.
(24:14):
It was like such a specialtyclass, and they only did it
every other year because onlyhorticulture was take would take
it, and they needed enough, youknow, force enough people to
fill up a class.
And it was at like 6 30 in themorning.
SPEAKER_00 (24:28):
Well, I'll never forget I had um Mary Hawk, which
you you met her.
She was at Clemson, very genius,great lady, um, very passionate.
Um I don't know what she was inhorticulture, but she was
something.
She was very, very smart.
Um she had her PhD.
(24:49):
So I had her eight o'clock inlandscape design class.
And you know, I'm not a morningperson.
And literally, so my dad is inconstruction, has been my entire
life um commercial, and my dadwas writing the checks, my
(25:11):
tuition checks for Clemson.
And Mary, Dr.
Hawk, was very passionate aboutuh construction on the campus
and protecting the trees.
So they were building on theother side of campus, and at
eight o'clock in the morning wehad to go over while she
(25:32):
screamed at the constructioncrew.
And all I can remember, y'all, Imean, I was like, oh my God, if
my dad rode by here and saw mestanding out here with a
protesting construction becauseof a tree, which, and listen, I
(25:55):
love the trees, save the trees.
I'm all about that.
But I'm just telling you, if mydad had driven by and seen that,
he would have beat my ass andher ass.
It would have just been a assbeat.
Yeah, he would have been like, Ihe I know what he would have
said, what in the hell are youdoing out here?
That is crazy, and I'm notpaying for this.
SPEAKER_01 (26:17):
And yeah, that is crazy.
Um, I have something else that Ithink is so cool, and I need to
look up their name, but onTikTok, moving on.
Are we done talking abouthorticulture?
Are you off your soapbox?
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
Just throw the throw the mums away.
SPEAKER_01 (26:33):
That's what I heard.
Have you seen this girl?
Okay, this would have so beenme.
I've said this so many times.
I'll I am glad I grew up when Idid, and you know, my time, and
I I think most people probablyare because that was your
childhood and the way youremember it.
But if I had grown up now withthe ability to have access to
(26:58):
social media, I would have beenruined.
SPEAKER_00 (27:01):
I would have my name would be dirt.
I could have never been able todo it.
SPEAKER_01 (27:06):
But I would have also been a millionaire.
Like I would have been workingit because you know.
So there's this girl on TikTokthat has blown up and it's under
her dad's account.
I'll have to look it up becausey'all need to go follow her.
Little country girl reminds meof myself, but you back in the
day.
(27:26):
Um, but she got on there, it wasrandom, and she's 14, and she
wants to buy this house that isin front of her parents'
property.
Like their driveway goes downbeside it.
And originally it was like heraunt and uncle, like her great
aunt and uncle's house.
(27:46):
They sold it out of the family,and now the house is for sale.
That would have so been me.
That's what I'm saying.
Let's flip it.
No, well, she wants to buy it soshe can restore it and live by
her parents or whatever.
And her dad's like, and she'slike, My dad said 14-year-olds
can't buy houses, blah, blah,blah.
You know, they're going back andforth or whatever.
And she's like, What if uh it's$130,000?
(28:08):
What if$130,000 people send meone dollar?
See, this is how I would haveworked my social media.
And it's gotten traction inlike, I don't know, I looked a
couple of days ago.
She's got like, I think it waslike$73,000 that she okay.
SPEAKER_00 (28:23):
I'm just sending her money.
SPEAKER_01 (28:24):
Yeah.
I love that.
Me too.
I did send her money.
I sent her$50.
I was like, love that.
This is my kind of gal.
I love her.
I'm obsessed.
Um, and so I'll have to let mesee if I can find I want her to
have that house.
Me too.
And I'm like, that is how youwork it from the right angle of
(28:47):
social media and being a kid.
Um, let me find the TikTok namebecause it's under her dad's
because she just, you know, is14 or whatever.
I guess she didn't have her own.
Um, the TikTok handle is ZacharyPatrick.
Z-A-C-H-A-R-Y.
Patrick.
P-A-T-R-I-C.
Um is the name.
(29:10):
So uh So y'all give her money.
SPEAKER_00 (29:14):
We want her to have this house.
SPEAKER_01 (29:15):
We do want her to have the house.
But I just think that is so fun.
Whether she ends up with it ornot, that is that is the way you
work social media.
But I've been following the thisis what I follow on TikTok.
Is it Zachary Patrick?
At Zachary Patrick.
Z-A-C-H-A-R-Y.
P-A-T-R-I-C-K.
(29:37):
Zachary Patrick.
He's got 107,000 followers.
But I just thought that was socute, and I hope she really does
get the house.
Um, and what a great way to dothat.
Where's my TikTok?
Okay.
I was like, I'm gonna send you alittle money.
That's that's my type ofcharities that I donate to, by
the way.
I'm like, you can use it nomatter what you do.
(29:59):
You if you don't get the House,use it for college or something.
Okay, so um, other than that,let's see what else I got in my
notes over here.
Oh, I have another um Is thisher?
Yes, that's her.
I have another phrase that wemay be saying wrong.
(30:20):
You may be saying wrong.
SPEAKER_00 (30:21):
I love her.
I mean, how how great for her.
Mm-hmm.
Y'all, we gotta help her getthat house.
That's true.
And while we're at it, can wehelp me get a new house too?
SPEAKER_01 (30:33):
Pile up.
Get the hell out of here.
Um, so a phrase you might besaying wrong.
Oh, Lord.
I think we may have talked aboutthis one a long time ago.
It feels familiar.
Um, and there's no way to guessthis one out right.
So we can play a hundredthousand million dollar, hundred
(30:53):
thousand pyramid.
People were cracking up aboutthat last week.
Um, but this one is um it'sanother think coming, not
another thing coming.
Did we talk about that before?
SPEAKER_00 (31:10):
I feel like real a think.
You got another think coming.
SPEAKER_01 (31:13):
Yeah, not another thing.
You got another thing uh coming,is what I would be saying.
I guess another think.
Like you're gonna have torethink that or T-H-I-N-K.
SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
I like thing better.
You got you got another thingcoming if you think I'm gonna.
So you should have yeah, thatmakes sense.
You got another think coming ifyou think I'm gonna go down and
do yeah, you got another thinkcoming instead of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (31:39):
Nobody says think.
I got messages and I meant tocheck the um hotline today.
I didn't.
We are we're short on time.
We are whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (31:48):
We're trying to cram a hundred pounds of bullshit
into a 50-pound bag.
SPEAKER_01 (31:55):
That's a southernism there.
Um, but I had a few peoplemessage me that they say Sam
Hell too.
Remember us instead of Sam Hill?
Yeah, Sam Hell.
Wasn't the Sam Hell wasn't Sam'sHill.
Yeah, I know, but a lot ofpeople agreed with me on that.
See, that's funny.
(32:16):
I mean, um, all right, so that'sall I got for you.
You got anything for me, Mister,over there?
I do want to play.
I did look up, I sent you somehundred thousand dollar pyramid
questions.
You want to rock some of thoseout?
I do.
SPEAKER_00 (32:32):
I want to make a fool out of you.
I enjoy that's my favorite past.
Well, we're both good at doingthat to each other.
SPEAKER_01 (32:40):
So who is going first here?
So I looked up some.
You're I'm going first.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (32:46):
I'm asking you first, and I'm gonna start the
timer.
SPEAKER_01 (32:50):
I feel like you were better at throwing things out.
I'm just gonna throw out whatcomes to mind.
So you're gonna give me thecategory, and then I gotta try
to guess the word.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (33:00):
So, and you've got 30 seconds.
SPEAKER_01 (33:03):
Okay, 30 seconds.
SPEAKER_00 (33:04):
30 seconds.
SPEAKER_01 (33:05):
Okay, everyone listening.
I want you to shout it out withme, whether you're in your car,
at the gym, in the office.
We're gonna be on the same trainof file.
Let's see who wins.
Let's see.
SPEAKER_00 (33:17):
Okay.
Okay.
Things connected to music.
Oh god.
Right off the bat, somethingmusic.
Things connected to music.
Microphone.
Hold on.
I've got to start the I hadn'teven started.
Listen, I'm gonna give usinstead of 30 seconds.
(33:40):
I think we need longer becausewe're no, let's do 30, and what
we get is what we get.
SPEAKER_01 (33:46):
Lord, that's not a lot of time.
It's good.
We're gonna we're we can do it.
This would be sharp for ourbrains.
Oh, and I'm jittered out oncoffee and okay, clock started.
Okay, shut up.
SPEAKER_00 (33:59):
Uh the in the in a band, you've got the main
person, lead singer.
Yes.
Boo, got it.
Uh, if you're in the church,choir.
SPEAKER_01 (34:09):
No.
Pulpit.
Or at school.
Choir.
No.
Um, band, organ, piano.
unknown (34:16):
No.
SPEAKER_00 (34:17):
Uh come keep going.
I'm playing this.
It's string instrument.
Violin.
Yes.
Okay.
Um I don't play the music, but Imake uh I got two.
SPEAKER_01 (34:31):
Okay, but some of this depends on the person
giving the clues.
Yeah.
I mean, I was trying chorus.
Chorus.
Oh.
I mean chorus.
What's the difference betweenchoir and chorus?
Now I don't think about it.
Huh.
I just realized there's twowords for kind of what I
consider the same thing.
All right, let's put the timerback on your phone.
(34:54):
Hold on.
SPEAKER_00 (34:55):
Um, tell me what it's about first, then I'll hit
the timer.
SPEAKER_01 (35:01):
Um, okay.
Things that start with shh likeSH.
SPEAKER_00 (35:10):
Share.
SPEAKER_01 (35:12):
No, I'm not sure.
Okay.
Okay.
You got the you got the concept.
So I'm a Martin.
Okay.
I so start now.
Um the animal that you shear.
Sheep.
Got it.
All right.
Uh the what we talked about, youhad a hundred of today.
Shit.
We talked about when you weremoving, you had a hundred of
(35:33):
these and you had this donate.
Shoes.
Yeah, good lord.
Um, a big ass boat.
Ship.
That's it.
Mm-hmm.
Um, what you put in your hair.
Well, if you have hair there,you go.
Okay, okay.
Um, you know that church, thatpreacher's wife came in and
shoplifted.
SPEAKER_02 (35:53):
The timer went out.
SPEAKER_00 (35:58):
You got five.
Yeah, we literally let see youokay.
Let's do it one more time.
Okay.
So, okay.
This is going to be umprofessions.
SPEAKER_01 (36:12):
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Prostitute.
SPEAKER_00 (36:17):
Hold on.
Hold on.
Pole dancer.
Hold on.
Be quiet.
Okay.
Uh fixes pipes.
Plumber.
Yes.
Uh takes care of your children.
Babysitter.
Um.
SPEAKER_01 (36:34):
Takes wood.
Woodworker.
Construction worker.
Framer.
Builder.
Yes.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (36:42):
Um.
Uh makes your landscaper.
Gardener.
SPEAKER_01 (36:48):
He uses a tiller.
Plow.
Tractor.
Lawnmower.
What was the what was the answerto that one?
Lawnmower.
That's the profession.
A lawnmower?
Okay, I think the lawnmower isthat the machine.
The machine.
I'm at five and you're at five.
(37:09):
Okay.
So I'll do it to you again.
I feel like I should slow down.
SPEAKER_00 (37:13):
Um, I mean you were doing you're good doing good at
describing.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (37:21):
Okay.
Let me see which one of these Iwant to do.
Things from the USA.
Okay.
Go.
Save a horse, ride a cowboy.
There you go.
Um, okay, sticking with cowboy,the type of music they would
probably listen to.
Country.
Yes.
Um, in November, we have thisholiday.
(37:45):
Uh Thanksgiving.
Uh-huh.
Um, the Kardashians are thequeen of what type of TV?
Reality TV.
Yes.
Um, out in New York City,there's that big lady out there.
Statue of Liberty.
That's right.
Um see, I'm good at this.
(38:08):
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Well, that was fun.
Yeah.
Um, we need to play more ofthis, but we're out of time
today.
We got to pull this baby over.
Maybe someone should send us ifyou know, like some categories.
I feel like those are prettyeasy.
The other thing going down mylist from the USA was where did
you used to work?
(38:29):
McDonald's.
It was there.
And the last one was um a bat.
Oh, well, yeah, I guess youcould say that.
Um, you throw a ball and hit itwith a bat.
Sport.
Sport.
No, what sport is that?
Baseball.
Yes.
Okay.
You're good.
Let's pull this baby over.
Steven's got to go outside andhelp me on the farm.
(38:50):
We're gonna get ready for thefirst dinner of the dahlias.
Remember, this when this comesout, Steven should be in
Atlanta.
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(39:12):
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That's gonna wrap it up andwe'll see you next week.
Thanks, guys.
Bye.
Thanks, guys.
Thanks, guys.
Buckle up, big boy, let's go.
I've got a coffee.
I'm cracked out.
I'm ready to ride.
Are we actually recording?
I think so.
It's time for another episode ofWho's Driving?
Welcome to Who's Driving?
I'm Wesley Turner.
And I'm Steven Mert.
We're two best friends andentrepreneurs.
Who's Driving is an entertaininglook into the behind the scenes
(00:21):
of our lives, friendship, andbusiness.
SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
These are the stories we share and topics we
discuss as two best friendswould on a long road trip.
SPEAKER_01 (00:29):
Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer
a wide range of informativetopics centered around running
small businesses, social media,and all things home and garden.
SPEAKER_00 (00:38):
Buckle up and enjoy the ride.
SPEAKER_01 (00:39):
You never know who's driving or where we're headed.
All we know is it's always a funride.
Yeah, you know, it wouldn't beunlike me to get all cracked out
and then not hit the recordbutton.
No, and it'd be actually justlike you.
And let's sit here.
So how's it been?
So we're having to, it feelskind of unusual because we have
(00:59):
been recording the podcast solast minute that I thought we
were going to end up recordingthe morning of the podcast if we
pushed it back any further.
But today is actually Friday.
The week before.
And this will come out onTuesday.
So it almost feels like what arewe doing?
SPEAKER_00 (01:18):
I don't even know.
Because we're going, Dylan and Iwill be in Atlanta doing live
sales next week.
Gifts.
Gift live sales.
So if you're listening to this,you better be shopping
ourselves.
SPEAKER_01 (01:28):
Yes.
So we are still in real timetomorrow, which is Saturday,
getting ready for dinner in thedahlias on the farm.
So Steven had to come out to thefarm anyway, because you know
we've enlisted him to help withsome things.
And we were like, okay, we alsohave to get our podcast recorded
because Steven is leaving onMonday, the day before this
(01:52):
comes out, if you're keepingtrack.
Monday morning.
To go to Atlanta.
So next week, um, because youknow we have two dinner in
Adallias.
We have this one that's comingup and then one next week.
So all next week, Steven andDylan are gonna be in Atlanta if
you um have our app for thenested fig.
And they're gonna be doing livesales from the Atlanta market
(02:14):
and all over Atlanta, basically,at this point.
But you're focusing on somegreat gift items, Christmas
gifts, yeah.
And jewelry and bags.
Always gifts.
I want to know.
This is an interview we need tohave with I don't know, remember
women in general.
What do they do with all thesebags?
Bags and jewelry.
(02:36):
I mean, I am so thankful for allthese women and maybe some men.
I mean, because you've had allkinds of bags.
But they started Dylan.
I haven't even been to this bagwarehouse that you and Dylan
found.
It is fun.
It is, it is fun.
We got our friend Amanda.
Love you, Amanda.
(02:57):
Um, but y'all have gone down anddone these lives, and I haven't
gone there yet.
Cause, you know, y'all canhandle it, whatever.
Um, but the amount of bags thaty'all sell.
I'm like, can we just be a bagonline store?
Because, you know, well, and youknow they're easy to ship.
SPEAKER_00 (03:16):
Y'all can't get enough of it.
I I get a little of it becauseyou know, I have a few
addictions and I have a beltaddiction.
SPEAKER_01 (03:28):
But it is just like having apparel, like clothing.
It is you need variety and youneed ones that match.
And if I had to carry around adamn bag all the time, I would
want a new one all the time andI would want it to be pretty.
SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And when I moved last time, went10 years ago, when I moved from
my house and bought my loft, Ihad over a hundred pairs of
shoes.
No.
And donated that down to maybe20.
Oh, you were able to do that,Mister?
SPEAKER_01 (04:02):
Yeah, I I made my only child when I throw that in
there.
SPEAKER_00 (04:08):
But I'm like, But it just happens over time.
And I'm just man I'm just likeincrease them.
And the problem is, see, I'vecame up with it, and then I
realize, you know, because wehave um walk-in closet and for
in the in my bath master bath,and then we have a walk-in
(04:30):
closet in my office and awalk-in closet in the guest
room.
Well, I kind of take everything.
Yeah.
And I forget what I forget whatshoes, and you leave them in the
box.
SPEAKER_01 (04:43):
And you're like, oh, I found these.
I found these.
Yeah.
I do that from time to time.
I don't have that many shoes,but I of all the because we all
know I have tried threads aroundhere.
SPEAKER_00 (04:55):
I've tried my best to help this.
SPEAKER_01 (04:57):
But I do end up with shoes.
I that the shoes are the onethings that I will buy.
I don't have nice ones.
I mean, they're nice to someone.
You have had and just workedthem.
Okay, if they go on my feet,they're going wherever I go, in
whatever condition.
So, you know, Steven, he hasbeen somewhere and it started
(05:19):
raining, and he's like, Oh, mysuede shoes can't get wet today.
Um there are no stipulationsonce they go on my feet.
No, they I will take them.
Take them off and go barefoot.
SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
Hell yes.
In a parking lot.
Hell, I would walk in snow.
SPEAKER_01 (05:37):
No.
See, once the ship comes out ofthe box and goes on my foot, I
am wearing that shoe out.
No matter out, I mean out nomatter where I'm going.
SPEAKER_00 (05:47):
Out.
But I am not going to completelyruin my shoes.
SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
No, I'm not.
So anyway, I don't know.
I shoes are my one thing that Ibut I haven't gotten any new
ones in a long time.
Like, I need some new, like fun,funky ones.
SPEAKER_00 (06:03):
I see how women buy bags, yeah.
And and jewelry too.
Like, you wear it, you get tiredof it, and and the good thing
is, is like when you're buyinglike decent costume jewelry,
you're not breaking the bank.
So you can afford to have avariety.
(06:23):
Yeah.
And then and then pass it on.
SPEAKER_01 (06:26):
I'm just so thankful.
So if y'all are listening, thisis was the point.
If you don't have the nested figapp yet, go to your app store
for your phone or tablet,Android or Apple.
We are there.
Search the Nested Fig.
Get the app.
It is where it's at.
Um, and Steven and Dylan will belive a bunch next week in the
lap in the app.
(06:46):
You'll be able to find somegreat things there.
Um, so yeah, so then next weekI'll be getting ready for
another dinner in the dahlias.
But you know, framework shouldbe set.
Last week's podcast, I talkedabout, oh, dinner in the dahlias
is coming up this weekend orwhatever.
And I said, Oh, the weather islooking great.
No rain.
(07:06):
Well, now there's a chance ofrain.
So we'll let you know.
The crazy thing is how thatgoes.
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
Is the hurricane.
There's a hurricane.
SPEAKER_01 (07:16):
Now there's a hurricane that may come through
here next week as this comesout.
Um, which is, you know, whathappened last year, and it was a
complete I don't know.
It's just uh, you know what?
It's the way it goes.
You just gotta go with it.
Daniel's out there right now aswe speak, cleaning out the barn
because we might be piled inthere having dinner.
(07:36):
Dinner in the barn is where it'sgonna be.
Dinner in the dirt.
Dinner in the dirt.
Yes, that's funny.
Dinner in the dirt.
Oh my gosh.
Um, okay, I have something Iwant to circle back around to.
Oh, please circle back around.
I know.
Oh, it's on my notes here.
No, this is a this is my ick ofthe week.
(07:59):
I'm moving on past um, you know,social media icks that get me
down.
I'm moving past the pumpkins.
We already talked about that.
We gotta circle back around tomoms, though, because it's mom
season.
And we talked about a fewepisodes ago how to pick out a
mom that's gonna last.
(08:20):
But the ick is, and this startedlike two years ago, is the
people who are doing reels onhow to get your mums to last all
season.
You bring them home, you fill upa five-gallon bucket of water,
and you drop your mom in thereand let it soak for 30 minutes,
and your mom's will last allseason.
SPEAKER_00 (08:41):
Not true.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, yourmom can only drink so much at
one time.
The other thing with dunking itis just like we talked about,
you can easily break all yourmom completely apart.
SPEAKER_01 (08:58):
And I'm like, uh, I want to create an account and
start countering, like remixingeveryone's reel.
And it's not like I know it all,but I'm like, you are setting
people up for failure, and yousome person, and I remember the
first time I saw it, and it wasa lady that I know that is, um,
(09:20):
anyway.
SPEAKER_00 (09:21):
That tells my issue with her is not her personally.
Well, I really don't like hernow because of what she does,
but she sets people up to fail.
I mean, she gives incorrect somelisten.
Sometimes there's a a millionways to skin a cat, but
sometimes there isn't.
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (09:42):
So think about okay, here is the truth behind moms.
Moms are thirsty, moms like tobe watered, okay?
They also don't like to sit inwater.
So moms are typically potted ina very light, airy potting soil,
(10:05):
which means they will also dryout a little quicker than some
other plants.
That just means you have towater your mom more often.
When you dunk a mom in your sinkor a five-gallon bucket, like
Steven said, it can only drinkup so much water, and your soil
(10:27):
can only hold so much water.
So think of it as if you take akitchen sponge and soak it in
your kitchen sink.
That sponge can only get so wet.
You can't leave it there forthree hours and it get and it
holds more water.
It's only gonna hold a certainamount of water.
(10:47):
And then if you take that spongeand pull it out of your sink and
hold it in the air, all thewater is gonna drain out.
And it's only gonna maintain andkeep a set amount of water in
that sponge.
And that's the same way theplant and the soil works.
So I guess the concept behindputting it in the bucket could
(11:10):
be you are deep watering it orgetting it, you know, to really
absorb the water, but you canalso do that by just watering
the mom.
SPEAKER_00 (11:23):
Or putting it in a saucer and let it wick it up.
That's honestly the safest witha mom.
SPEAKER_01 (11:29):
And that way you won't break the mom because mums
are bred to have as many bloomsand be branched as possible, and
they're very weak nowadaysbecause they are meant to be a
show plant for a very shorttime.
Oh, they are hybrids of hybridsof hybrids of hybrids.
SPEAKER_00 (11:47):
Yeah, that's how they come up with all the cool
colors.
SPEAKER_01 (11:50):
Break.
And if you look, a lot of mumsnow will have netting, like they
grow them in netting down inthere.
It's real fine.
That's so that they won't fallapart and break.
And when as your mum does bloomout, it's best to just go ahead
and train yourself to water themum from the side.
Meaning, if you're watering itwith a water hose or a watering
can, water it at the soil level.
(12:12):
Don't pour it over the top ofthe mum.
SPEAKER_00 (12:14):
It will pop, it will break.
SPEAKER_01 (12:15):
It will break from the weight of the flowers.
And then also putting water onthe flowers like that because
there's so many petals can causelike a botrytis, like a fungus
mold, um, which will cause yourblooms to die faster, too.
So that is my well, let's takeit a step further.
SPEAKER_00 (12:32):
Let's take it a little step further.
Also, with the mums, you youcan't you can deadhead it all
you want, right?
But it's not gonna put out.
SPEAKER_01 (12:44):
That was the other one I saw, which we talked about
that too.
Like the buds that you see onthe plant are the buds that
plant is gonna have for thisyear.
SPEAKER_00 (12:52):
Not like a petunia.
SPEAKER_01 (12:53):
Yeah, it's not gonna regrow.
I did see another reel that waslike, and deadhead them every
day for blooms all summer long.
SPEAKER_00 (13:03):
You can deadhead them so they're prettier and
don't have dead blooms, butyou're not gonna get another
bloom.
It's true.
That's it.
It's done.
Show's over.
SPEAKER_01 (13:13):
So that's the best way to say it.
SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
Shows over.
So let's take it to the nextlevel.
We're talking about moms, we'retalking about how they have been
um hybridized, hybridized.
I mean, on top, you know, it's ahybrid of a hybrid of a hybrid
of a hybrid.
So that means they're weak.
There's they they're all plants,all trees get weak as as they
(13:40):
you know become hybridized.
SPEAKER_01 (13:43):
And you're not going Steven, I know we're he doesn't
do not plant them.
Please don't plant them.
Just don't.
You're planting a problem.
You are planting a problem.
That is true.
SPEAKER_00 (13:59):
You are, you are planting a problem.
SPEAKER_01 (14:02):
And and you might get them to bloom a little bit.
Now, there are, okay, I'm gonnasay this.
There are perennial moms.
If you go back and get some ofthe loom varieties, those are
the ones you should plant inyour garden and um or yard, and
they'll bloom and be gorgeous.
(14:23):
But the ones that you those arethe ones your grandmother had.
Yeah, the ones you bought atHome Depot, your local grocery
store, just throw them away whenthey're dying.
SPEAKER_00 (14:32):
And I tell people, just from my life, okay, since
I've been alive, there's beenthe red tips.
If you're 50 or older, youremember everybody had to have
the red tips.
And they were beautiful and theywere pretty.
SPEAKER_01 (14:48):
That was probably a southern thing.
SPEAKER_00 (14:50):
We had those damn things down our driveway, you
name it.
SPEAKER_01 (14:54):
They all got diseased.
SPEAKER_00 (14:55):
A blight hit them.
I've never seen anything die soquick in all my life.
And then the next uh one of myfavorite hybrids uh are the
Bradford pear trees.
SPEAKER_01 (15:07):
Oh my gosh.
That have taken over.
You know, they'll pay you herenow to cut them down.
SPEAKER_00 (15:12):
Well, and after they start producing, I don't know if
you've seen this, they grow andthey have thorns about this long
that will puncture.
They are so strong, they willpuncture the tire of a tractor.
Do you know what how strong howit's like a nail.
SPEAKER_01 (15:29):
But see, what happened was, what happened was
they hybridized those and youknow, grew them in some nursery
somewhere, Bradford, Mr.
Bradford, I'm sure.
No, I'm just kidding.
And they had great shape, theygrew quick, whatever.
Well pretty blooms.
Put them out in the world, andthey were supposed to be
(15:50):
sterile, but they're not.
And so they also spread, they'reinvasive, and they kind of
convert back to the original,and now they're just taken over.
SPEAKER_00 (16:01):
Oh, if you let them go, they grow thorns that are
literally uh wouldn't you saythree to five inches, some like
if they get big.
Yeah, and lit, I mean,literally, you can't even pay
people to take them down.
Like they become they're they'rea huge problem.
The other thing is they'reextremely weak.
(16:23):
So during you know an ice storm,they drop like toothpicks, just
all the branches just come down.
Yeah, and then my other favoritehybrid of all time, these are
the top ones that and there'smany more.
I mean, we we won't even getinto roses and flowers because
there's there's lots there, isthe Leyland Cypress.
SPEAKER_01 (16:46):
Oh, yeah.
Leland cypress.
Now they're all dying out.
You gotta get an arborvitae now.
Yes, those would be next.
SPEAKER_00 (16:53):
And the way, but the way to make sure you're not
buying a problem, and this iswhat I always tell people is
make sure you're not buying ahybrid.
Yeah, you know, get there's areason.
There's a reason that yourgrandparents had these big,
beautiful trees that lastedhundreds of years, and and these
(17:14):
plants that lasted, they weren'tmessed with.
You start messing with them.
SPEAKER_01 (17:19):
We gotta have this color, you gotta have this
color.
I want my blood to be longer, Iwant it to be shorter, I want it
to be a taller plant, I want itto be a bushier plant, and then
you just create a mess.
SPEAKER_00 (17:30):
I asked Wesley one time.
I asked Wesley.
No, you actually answered thissomewhat, no, very
intelligently.
Usually he can't.
I'll be.
I will be.
I love when I travel to go to abotanical garden wherever, you
know, if I can go to a watergarden or a botanical, any kind
of garden, I'm gonna go.
(17:51):
And if I see a plant that I'mnot familiar with, I will text
it to this dumbass that has ahorticulture degree from
Mississippi State.
And I don't know who the dean isthere.
I hope they listen to this.
But he don't know anythingbecause he'll say, I don't know
what that is.
(18:12):
Well, why?
But anyway.
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
Okay, let me explain why and defend myself before you
tell how I it evidently one timegot it right.
Nothing.
Okay, that's not horticulture.
I didn't know that's turfmanagement.
That's turf management, and Idon't like grass.
I don't want anything to do withit.
I don't want to have to mow it.
I'm not fertilizing it, I'm notkeeping it green.
(18:36):
I'm not running a golf course,and I don't give a damn.
But anyway, no.
When I when you get ahorticulture degree, you're
gonna learn the plants in yourclimate.
So I went to Mississippi State,which is very similar to here in
South Carolina.
So we have the same plants, andI know those.
(18:57):
I don't know what grows inArizona or California because I
don't live there.
SPEAKER_00 (19:03):
And horticulture is very much I mean, it's
different, but it's very muchlike medicine.
SPEAKER_01 (19:09):
Yeah, and that's like me going to Washington
State and asking you real estatelaws, and you'd be like, I don't
know.
I don't I don't do real estatethere.
SPEAKER_00 (19:18):
Well, and and I've said this on here before.
I took all my electives atClemson, and why I didn't, I
kept doing it, I have no idea.
But it, you know, I've alwaysloved plants and and and
gardening.
So I thought it would be fun umto take all my electives in
(19:40):
horticulture and landscapedesign, and I just randomly
picked classes, they might be100 level, maybe 300 level.
Well, I thought it'd be easy,and I took plant anatomy.
SPEAKER_01 (19:57):
That's a lot of fun and picked that shit.
SPEAKER_00 (20:00):
It was so hard.
Because I was like, this wouldbe easy.
SPEAKER_01 (20:04):
Leaf, you know, petal.
Okay, and here is the genuinething too about me and my
horticulture degree.
I I don't even need it.
I don't know why I got it.
No, I didn't know what to do.
I mean, I love it's valuable tohave it.
It's valuable, it is veryvaluable.
But like I think I said on theprevious or recently, there's so
many different categories.
(20:25):
You can work at a botanicalgarden, you can work in
landscape and landscape design,you can work in a lab or
creating plants or hybridizingor yeah.
And I really my whole part wasthe design aspect of it.
Floral design, potting.
(20:46):
Like I like the pretty side ofplants.
Like I can plant a hell of acontainer.
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00 (20:52):
Well, and getting back to my point.
Um, so you just took on this.
SPEAKER_01 (20:57):
No, my point was there were a lot of things like
plant anatomy that I don't Idon't remember anything from
that.
I don't want to.
I do.
I remember the apical meristem.
Yeah, well, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (21:10):
I remember a few.
SPEAKER_01 (21:11):
And if you cut that out of a tree, it will bush.
It will burn or a plant, it willbush.
Um, but there were like labswhere it was on the cellular
level, like plant anatomy, likethe lab part.
SPEAKER_00 (21:23):
It gets really well, that's in plant anatomy too.
It gets, y'all, it gets reallycomplicated.
I was like, I don't I'm a visualperson, and it really gets
honestly down to that medicaltype level because a plant is
essentially very much like thehuman body when you break it
(21:45):
down to a cellular, cellularlevel.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (21:48):
Obviously, there's differences, but it's that
intricate and and they're tryingwhen you're going through, you
know, you you're hitting all ofthat because then you decide
what path you're going to.
Are you gonna go work in a labor you're gonna need all of
this?
Didn't that not work?
I was like, can I go back tofloral design?
I need to go back to my floralclass and play with flowers.
SPEAKER_00 (22:10):
And I need to take my ass right on back to the
economics, the economicsclasses, because I did that was
my my area.
But Wesley explained it to me,and I was like, why are hybrids
always a problem?
I don't care if it's a rosebush, I don't care what it is,
they're you know, and they're insometimes they last for 10
(22:33):
years.
Yeah, but then there's aproblem.
And he was like, They haven'tweathered the storm.
It's kind of like human beingsand viruses.
It's like you have there, it'slike a newborn baby that hasn't
weathered the storm.
Whereas your oak trees and youknow, all of your stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (22:52):
Did I say that?
SPEAKER_00 (22:53):
Yeah, sounds smart.
It's but it's I must have beenhaving a moment.
You yeah, it was it you wereyounger is before your brain got
worse.
But I mean, it makes sense.
Like you know, from a cellularlevel, I think they're just
weaker.
Yeah, they are to d to diseaseand and so on.
SPEAKER_01 (23:13):
And there's you know, if you're doing it in,
say, a petunia, which you'regonna replace every year,
doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter as much.
But you know, when or a mom thatyou're gonna replace every year.
Exactly.
Or a poinsettia that you'regonna throw away after
Christmas.
Those don't matter becausethat's a production show thing.
It's when it does become like inyour landscape plants, that's
(23:37):
where it becomes a thing.
An issue.
An issue.
Oh gosh, I don't know how we gotoff on that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (23:44):
But anyway, that it's good to know.
What so when you're plantingstuff in your yard, go go pure.
Go as pure as you can.
Just mind most of that.
SPEAKER_01 (23:52):
I remember in Mississippi State I had to take
plant and fungi kingdom as thecourse.
Oh god, that sounds like ablast.
It was only offered every otheryear in the spring at 6 30 a.m.
6 30?
Maybe it was six.
Yeah, I had an eight o'clockclass after it.
(24:14):
It was like such a specialtyclass, and they only did it
every other year because onlyhorticulture was take would take
it, and they needed enough, youknow, force enough people to
fill up a class.
And it was at like 6 30 in themorning.
SPEAKER_00 (24:28):
Well, I'll never forget I had um Mary Hawk, which
you you met her.
She was at Clemson, very genius,great lady, um, very passionate.
Um I don't know what she was inhorticulture, but she was
something.
She was very, very smart.
Um she had her PhD.
(24:49):
So I had her eight o'clock inlandscape design class.
And you know, I'm not a morningperson.
And literally, so my dad is inconstruction, has been my entire
life um commercial, and my dadwas writing the checks, my
(25:11):
tuition checks for Clemson.
And Mary, Dr.
Hawk, was very passionate aboutuh construction on the campus
and protecting the trees.
So they were building on theother side of campus, and at
eight o'clock in the morning wehad to go over while she
(25:32):
screamed at the constructioncrew.
And all I can remember, y'all, Imean, I was like, oh my God, if
my dad rode by here and saw mestanding out here with a
protesting construction becauseof a tree, which, and listen, I
(25:55):
love the trees, save the trees.
I'm all about that.
But I'm just telling you, if mydad had driven by and seen that,
he would have beat my ass andher ass.
It would have just been a assbeat.
Yeah, he would have been like, Ihe I know what he would have
said, what in the hell are youdoing out here?
That is crazy, and I'm notpaying for this.
SPEAKER_01 (26:17):
And yeah, that is crazy.
Um, I have something else that Ithink is so cool, and I need to
look up their name, but onTikTok, moving on.
Are we done talking abouthorticulture?
Are you off your soapbox?
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
Just throw the throw the mums away.
SPEAKER_01 (26:33):
That's what I heard.
Have you seen this girl?
Okay, this would have so beenme.
I've said this so many times.
I'll I am glad I grew up when Idid, and you know, my time, and
I I think most people probablyare because that was your
childhood and the way youremember it.
But if I had grown up now withthe ability to have access to
(26:58):
social media, I would have beenruined.
SPEAKER_00 (27:01):
I would have my name would be dirt.
I could have never been able todo it.
SPEAKER_01 (27:06):
But I would have also been a millionaire.
Like I would have been workingit because you know.
So there's this girl on TikTokthat has blown up and it's under
her dad's account.
I'll have to look it up becausey'all need to go follow her.
Little country girl reminds meof myself, but you back in the
day.
(27:26):
Um, but she got on there, it wasrandom, and she's 14, and she
wants to buy this house that isin front of her parents'
property.
Like their driveway goes downbeside it.
And originally it was like heraunt and uncle, like her great
aunt and uncle's house.
(27:46):
They sold it out of the family,and now the house is for sale.
That would have so been me.
That's what I'm saying.
Let's flip it.
No, well, she wants to buy it soshe can restore it and live by
her parents or whatever.
And her dad's like, and she'slike, My dad said 14-year-olds
can't buy houses, blah, blah,blah.
You know, they're going back andforth or whatever.
And she's like, What if uh it's$130,000?
(28:08):
What if$130,000 people send meone dollar?
See, this is how I would haveworked my social media.
And it's gotten traction inlike, I don't know, I looked a
couple of days ago.
She's got like, I think it waslike$73,000 that she okay.
SPEAKER_00 (28:23):
I'm just sending her money.
SPEAKER_01 (28:24):
Yeah.
I love that.
Me too.
I did send her money.
I sent her$50.
I was like, love that.
This is my kind of gal.
I love her.
I'm obsessed.
Um, and so I'll have to let mesee if I can find I want her to
have that house.
Me too.
And I'm like, that is how youwork it from the right angle of
(28:47):
social media and being a kid.
Um, let me find the TikTok namebecause it's under her dad's
because she just, you know, is14 or whatever.
I guess she didn't have her own.
Um, the TikTok handle is ZacharyPatrick.
Z-A-C-H-A-R-Y.
Patrick.
P-A-T-R-I-C.
Um is the name.
(29:10):
So uh So y'all give her money.
SPEAKER_00 (29:14):
We want her to have this house.
SPEAKER_01 (29:15):
We do want her to have the house.
But I just think that is so fun.
Whether she ends up with it ornot, that is that is the way you
work social media.
But I've been following the thisis what I follow on TikTok.
Is it Zachary Patrick?
At Zachary Patrick.
Z-A-C-H-A-R-Y.
P-A-T-R-I-C-K.
(29:37):
Zachary Patrick.
He's got 107,000 followers.
But I just thought that was socute, and I hope she really does
get the house.
Um, and what a great way to dothat.
Where's my TikTok?
Okay.
I was like, I'm gonna send you alittle money.
That's that's my type ofcharities that I donate to, by
the way.
I'm like, you can use it nomatter what you do.
(29:59):
You if you don't get the House,use it for college or something.
Okay, so um, other than that,let's see what else I got in my
notes over here.
Oh, I have another um Is thisher?
Yes, that's her.
I have another phrase that wemay be saying wrong.
(30:20):
You may be saying wrong.
SPEAKER_00 (30:21):
I love her.
I mean, how how great for her.
Mm-hmm.
Y'all, we gotta help her getthat house.
That's true.
And while we're at it, can wehelp me get a new house too?
SPEAKER_01 (30:33):
Pile up.
Get the hell out of here.
Um, so a phrase you might besaying wrong.
Oh, Lord.
I think we may have talked aboutthis one a long time ago.
It feels familiar.
Um, and there's no way to guessthis one out right.
So we can play a hundredthousand million dollar, hundred
(30:53):
thousand pyramid.
People were cracking up aboutthat last week.
Um, but this one is um it'sanother think coming, not
another thing coming.
Did we talk about that before?
SPEAKER_00 (31:10):
I feel like real a think.
You got another think coming.
SPEAKER_01 (31:13):
Yeah, not another thing.
You got another thing uh coming,is what I would be saying.
I guess another think.
Like you're gonna have torethink that or T-H-I-N-K.
SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
I like thing better.
You got you got another thingcoming if you think I'm gonna.
So you should have yeah, thatmakes sense.
You got another think coming ifyou think I'm gonna go down and
do yeah, you got another thinkcoming instead of thing.
SPEAKER_01 (31:39):
Nobody says think.
I got messages and I meant tocheck the um hotline today.
I didn't.
We are we're short on time.
We are whatever.
SPEAKER_00 (31:48):
We're trying to cram a hundred pounds of bullshit
into a 50-pound bag.
SPEAKER_01 (31:55):
That's a southernism there.
Um, but I had a few peoplemessage me that they say Sam
Hell too.
Remember us instead of Sam Hill?
Yeah, Sam Hell.
Wasn't the Sam Hell wasn't Sam'sHill.
Yeah, I know, but a lot ofpeople agreed with me on that.
See, that's funny.
(32:16):
I mean, um, all right, so that'sall I got for you.
You got anything for me, Mister,over there?
I do want to play.
I did look up, I sent you somehundred thousand dollar pyramid
questions.
You want to rock some of thoseout?
I do.
SPEAKER_00 (32:32):
I want to make a fool out of you.
I enjoy that's my favorite past.
Well, we're both good at doingthat to each other.
SPEAKER_01 (32:40):
So who is going first here?
So I looked up some.
You're I'm going first.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (32:46):
I'm asking you first, and I'm gonna start the
timer.
SPEAKER_01 (32:50):
I feel like you were better at throwing things out.
I'm just gonna throw out whatcomes to mind.
So you're gonna give me thecategory, and then I gotta try
to guess the word.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (33:00):
So, and you've got 30 seconds.
SPEAKER_01 (33:03):
Okay, 30 seconds.
SPEAKER_00 (33:04):
30 seconds.
SPEAKER_01 (33:05):
Okay, everyone listening.
I want you to shout it out withme, whether you're in your car,
at the gym, in the office.
We're gonna be on the same trainof file.
Let's see who wins.
Let's see.
SPEAKER_00 (33:17):
Okay.
Okay.
Things connected to music.
Oh god.
Right off the bat, somethingmusic.
Things connected to music.
Microphone.
Hold on.
I've got to start the I hadn'teven started.
Listen, I'm gonna give usinstead of 30 seconds.
(33:40):
I think we need longer becausewe're no, let's do 30, and what
we get is what we get.
SPEAKER_01 (33:46):
Lord, that's not a lot of time.
It's good.
We're gonna we're we can do it.
This would be sharp for ourbrains.
Oh, and I'm jittered out oncoffee and okay, clock started.
Okay, shut up.
SPEAKER_00 (33:59):
Uh the in the in a band, you've got the main
person, lead singer.
Yes.
Boo, got it.
Uh, if you're in the church,choir.
SPEAKER_01 (34:09):
No.
Pulpit.
Or at school.
Choir.
No.
Um, band, organ, piano.
unknown (34:16):
No.
SPEAKER_00 (34:17):
Uh come keep going.
I'm playing this.
It's string instrument.
Violin.
Yes.
Okay.
Um I don't play the music, but Imake uh I got two.
SPEAKER_01 (34:31):
Okay, but some of this depends on the person
giving the clues.
Yeah.
I mean, I was trying chorus.
Chorus.
Oh.
I mean chorus.
What's the difference betweenchoir and chorus?
Now I don't think about it.
Huh.
I just realized there's twowords for kind of what I
consider the same thing.
All right, let's put the timerback on your phone.
(34:54):
Hold on.
SPEAKER_00 (34:55):
Um, tell me what it's about first, then I'll hit
the timer.
SPEAKER_01 (35:01):
Um, okay.
Things that start with shh likeSH.
SPEAKER_00 (35:10):
Share.
SPEAKER_01 (35:12):
No, I'm not sure.
Okay.
Okay.
You got the you got the concept.
So I'm a Martin.
Okay.
I so start now.
Um the animal that you shear.
Sheep.
Got it.
All right.
Uh the what we talked about, youhad a hundred of today.
Shit.
We talked about when you weremoving, you had a hundred of
(35:33):
these and you had this donate.
Shoes.
Yeah, good lord.
Um, a big ass boat.
Ship.
That's it.
Mm-hmm.
Um, what you put in your hair.
Well, if you have hair there,you go.
Okay, okay.
Um, you know that church, thatpreacher's wife came in and
shoplifted.
SPEAKER_02 (35:53):
The timer went out.
SPEAKER_00 (35:58):
You got five.
Yeah, we literally let see youokay.
Let's do it one more time.
Okay.
So, okay.
This is going to be umprofessions.
SPEAKER_01 (36:12):
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Prostitute.
SPEAKER_00 (36:17):
Hold on.
Hold on.
Pole dancer.
Hold on.
Be quiet.
Okay.
Uh fixes pipes.
Plumber.
Yes.
Uh takes care of your children.
Babysitter.
Um.
SPEAKER_01 (36:34):
Takes wood.
Woodworker.
Construction worker.
Framer.
Builder.
Yes.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (36:42):
Um.
Uh makes your landscaper.
Gardener.
SPEAKER_01 (36:48):
He uses a tiller.
Plow.
Tractor.
Lawnmower.
What was the what was the answerto that one?
Lawnmower.
That's the profession.
A lawnmower?
Okay, I think the lawnmower isthat the machine.
The machine.
I'm at five and you're at five.
(37:09):
Okay.
So I'll do it to you again.
I feel like I should slow down.
SPEAKER_00 (37:13):
Um, I mean you were doing you're good doing good at
describing.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (37:21):
Okay.
Let me see which one of these Iwant to do.
Things from the USA.
Okay.
Go.
Save a horse, ride a cowboy.
There you go.
Um, okay, sticking with cowboy,the type of music they would
probably listen to.
Country.
Yes.
Um, in November, we have thisholiday.
(37:45):
Uh Thanksgiving.
Uh-huh.
Um, the Kardashians are thequeen of what type of TV?
Reality TV.
Yes.
Um, out in New York City,there's that big lady out there.
Statue of Liberty.
That's right.
Um see, I'm good at this.
(38:08):
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Well, that was fun.
Yeah.
Um, we need to play more ofthis, but we're out of time
today.
We got to pull this baby over.
Maybe someone should send us ifyou know, like some categories.
I feel like those are prettyeasy.
The other thing going down mylist from the USA was where did
you used to work?
(38:29):
McDonald's.
It was there.
And the last one was um a bat.
Oh, well, yeah, I guess youcould say that.
Um, you throw a ball and hit itwith a bat.
Sport.
Sport.
No, what sport is that?
Baseball.
Yes.
Okay.
You're good.
Let's pull this baby over.
Steven's got to go outside andhelp me on the farm.
(38:50):
We're gonna get ready for thefirst dinner of the dahlias.
Remember, this when this comesout, Steven should be in
Atlanta.
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