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March 4, 2025 46 mins

In this light-hearted episode, we look into the humorous experiences both Wesley and Steven have had during live sales, including the surprising rise of foot fetish culture where socks can become a hot commodity. From absurd anecdotes about selling to the ultimate cringeworthy moments discussing bad handshakes, we navigate through topics that perfectly showcase life's quirks.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here and it's time to roll the windows down.
It's a nice day outside.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It feels like spring.
I know it isn't, but it feelslike it.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Let's go for a ride, baby.
It's time for another episodeof who's Driving.
Welcome to who's Driving.
I'm Wesley Turner.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
And I'm Stephen Merck .
We're two best friends andentrepreneurs.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Who's Driving is an entertaining look into the
behind the scenes of our lives,friendship and businesses.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
These are the stories we share and topics we discuss,
as two best friends would on along road trip.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Along the way, we'll check in with friends and offer
a wide range of informativetopics centered around running
small businesses, social mediaand all things home and garden.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Buckle up and enjoy the ride.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
You never know who's driving or where we're headed.
All we know is it's always afun ride.
What are we going to talk aboutthis week?
You got some good things.
I have something.
I'm starting it off because Ihave something I am dying to
talk about right off the gateright off the bat out of the
gate off the bat Out of the gate, off the bat.
Jeez, whatever.
Anyway, we did live sales thisweek.

(01:06):
Well, this past week we did abunch Like we always do,
whatever.
You spring something on me in alive sale and I have been dying
to talk about it.
So when he mentioned this, Isaid we cannot talk about this
until we're recording thepodcast.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
So I haven't heard any of the stories.
First of all, I thought youknew.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, I didn't, and that's maybe what's more
surprising is the fact that wehave been friends for so long
now.
Yeah, years Since 2009.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I can't remember everything I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I'm pretty when something like this comes up.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
It's not that good.
It's not.
You're going to be disappointedwhen you hear the whole story.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Okay, well, we were in a live sale and I'm not sure.
Actually, we have two things totalk about from the live sale.
I'm not sure how it came up.
From the live sale, Feet orsomething came up, I don't know,
but Steven just nonchalantlydropped in the live sale.
Oh, did I ever tell you aboutthe time I sold my socks?

(02:21):
Dirty socks, is that what itwas?
Oh my God, dirty socks, is thatwhat it was?
Oh my God, am I red?
I hope so.
So he says the story's not thatgood.
But just that line alone it'sfunny, is that good?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
So it all, it all makes sense.
When I tell you the story,you'll be like, ok, I can see
you doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
So I'm taking notes.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
OK, so the story was yes, I had read or heard, I
don't remember, people talkingabout people selling socks, uh
huh.
Or their underwear yeah youknow I was like and I guess I I
mean I at the time I had neverheard of people having like a

(03:15):
foot fetish and all this crazywacky stuff and listen if you're
in defeat.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
You do you I just don't get I don't understand it,
that's okay, if that is yourthing and you want some of our
socks, let us know.
Or underwear, I mean, I have afew extra pairs.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
You gotta pay for mine, mine's expensive.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
We're paying for all of it, we gotta get our coin,
but you know, reach out we have.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
You know how to get in contact and they can be as
soiled as you want.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh God, We've already taken the turn.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I'm kidding, I'm kidding, not really so.
Anyway, I had heard about thatand so I looked it up.
I can't, for the life of me, Icannot remember where this took
place.
Maybe, maybe was it.
Would it have been Craigslistin 2007, 2008?
That?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
sounds about like you .

Speaker 2 (04:14):
So I giggled with another friend of mine and I was
like I am going.
This is so you, I am going, andI so you, I am going.
And I mean, I own freakingMcDonald's then.
So I had to be very careful,discreet, discreet, but I just

(04:34):
wanted to see if this was realor a bunch of BS.
So I remember it like it wasyesterday.
I remember it like it wasyesterday.
I put these athletic socks onat my desk and snapped pictures.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
With your little chicken legs in there Just my
feet yeah, just my knees down.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Uploaded them, put them on there.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
And they sold and they sold.
Do you remember how much yousold them for I?
You were a newbie, so youprobably do not remember it
wasn't.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It wasn't enough to change my life, but it was
enough to go to the trouble yeah, you know, do you think it was
like fifty dollars, thirtydollars?
Fifty ish, maybe?
Yeah, because I wouldn't havefooled with it if it.
Do you think it was like $50,$30?
$50-ish, maybe?
Yeah, because I wouldn't havefooled with it if it hadn't, but
it came up.
I think it was really a.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
It was truly An experiment, yeah, and then I did
.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
What experiment again .
I did it but I was like, oh God, that's so Like.
After I did it I was like, ohGod, that's so weird.
And then then the paranoia setin.
Like, oh my God, what ifsomeone tracked, tracked it back
to me and you know it made itto McDonald's corporate, because

(06:02):
let me tell you they're likethe mafia you would get a letter
.
I got letters, okay.
Not about that, but uh, you know, but they would do things like
once an owner put it it might'vebeen on my space or Facebook, I
can't remember, but she was anowner and she had on like a
string bikini and I put herphoto on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
In a string bikini, mm-hmm, and they didn't like
that.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
She got a phone call.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Please remove that.
I feel like they're a littlemore lenient these days with
things that are going on.
Well, obviously you go to?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I mean, you go to a McDonald's.
I'm like this isn't thestandard Right.
So obviously things havechanged, but I would say it
probably hasn't changed too muchabout how you have to act.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
So now there's like isn't it like Feet Finder?
Isn't that a website I had?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
never heard of that until the live sale.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Until the live sale.
Let's look, I got my computerin front of me.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
I'm going to look it up and see, because I mean,
listen, I don't own McDonald'snow and I don't have any
reputation to uphold.
It's kind of shot all to hellnow.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
So I am.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
You don't have a reputation I'm there to sell
socks, underwear, whatever.
I'm just not putting picture.
The thing is to sell more.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
You gotta post more, and I'm not doing that
feetfindercom feet find, so yourlittle chicken claws would be
great on there.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
You know somebody's into it, I will have you.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Listen, a lot of people are into it, it's fine.
A lot of people, that is athing.
That is a thing, and that'sfine.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I mean that's one of the lesser.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
No, I mean that's no different than finding like a
butt attractive or boobs, no, no, no, I'm not listen, I'm not
judging it at all.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I could, I could give , I could give a rat's patootie
about it, but it is so notsomething that appeals to me,
that it's like so I'm gonna haveyou signed up before, but I
know a lot of this I know I have.
I've had female friends tell methat men have like begged them

(08:29):
to give them like a foot massage.
I think it's this is more of a.
Definitely I think more men arein to feet.
I don't.
I think women are not so much.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I don't think so either, but maybe let us know if
you are.
If you're into feet just let usknow.
But I feel like women ingeneral are more into I mean, of
course they find peopleattractive and there has to be
attractions, but they're less.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
They're more into emotions and the way it should
be probably Right.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
And the feel not feet Little classier than you know
men, you know so when I click onFeet Finder, I did not Sell
feet pics remotely and earnmoney.
Users have spent over $80million on Feet Finder.
That doesn't seem like thatmuch, $80 million.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
They wouldn't pay for my feet.
Because, let me tell you, I'llcall myself out I was born, I
had severe, severe club feet.
My feet were like turned allthe way behind me so I had to do
the whole wear cast, wearbraces, you know, like, um, what

(09:41):
was his name?
Like Forrest Gump, and uh, somy feet were really, really
deformed.
Yeah, and they're not atrociousnow, but I don't feel like
they're pretty feet, like I havean extra little bump on the
side of my feet.
Yeah, see this right here.
And then there's extra bonehere.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
But maybe that's what people.
You never know what someone'sgoing to find attractive.
I have pretty good feet, youknow, with some pruning and
maintenance and polishing.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
You have to get a dremel out to knock those claws
down.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
That's true, I could do it, so something y'all need
to know about Wesley is hisnails grow.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
It is bizarre.
It's kind of gross.
They do grow.
It is bizarre.
I would fill a jar up in a week.
You would.
I've never known any Womenwould love to have your nails.
It's true, it is.
Yeah, you have the fastestgrowing nail.

(10:49):
I've never seen anything likeit.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Look, I literally just cut these yesterday and you
can already see where they'relike yeah, they're talons,
they're not talons.
If you're watching.
They're not talons.
Pull those feet out.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Feet finder, though, though I'm gonna sign you up.
No, don't sign me up, I do notneed any more crazy in my life.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
So this is how.
I don't know how we got on itin the podcast about making
money, something about feetfinder, I don't know, but anyway
.
So we got on the topic of the Ican't I can, so see you doing
that and this.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Well, here's the thing I'm a skeptic, yeah, I'm a
.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I'm a skeptic but he's very naive.
We've talked about this, so Ican see you hearing like that's
not a thing it was and it's athing you're like oh my gosh, it
was, it was like that's not athing and it it's a thing.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
You're like, oh my gosh, it was like that's not a
thing and it was like it's athing.
I was like, oh my God, let medelete everything off here.
It was like one of those things.
You're like that's not real andyou find out it's real and
you're like you run in the otherdirection, that you run in the
other direction.
That was me.
Yeah, it was funny, though Imean I'm the lead.

(12:06):
I mean to know me, you reallywouldn't think.
I don't think you'd think, oh,he would do that.
But I'll do listen.
If I'm curious, I will.
I'm on, I'm on bust up in there.
I'm going to see, you know, andI'm going to ask the questions
too.
Yeah, you are so, but you knowand there's people evidently I

(12:31):
read like into like smellingfeet, yeah, the whole thing that
you know.
Some like just naked feet, somewant feet rubbed on them.
Smelly feet, lint.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah, I don't know it's crazy, just to make it
normal.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
don't send me pictures of your feet.
Don't send me your socks.
I don't want any of it.
It does nothing for me butgross me out.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I don't want any of it it does nothing for me but
gross me out.
So moving on from that, butstill on feet, led to topic
number two that we brought up inthe live sale when we got off
on the feet thing and you weretalking about not liking feet
and that sort of thing.
We started talking about weirdthings like people clipping
their toenails, like I sawsomeone on an airplane one time

(13:27):
clipping their toenails.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
They should have been thrown off the plane like
midair, like open the door, pushthem out.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
So we were talking about that, which reminded me
the time that Stephen got a rapfired all about feats and I was
like we got to tell this on thepodcast.
Okay, we won't have to name thevendor?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
no, I wouldn't want to name them because it wasn't
their fault and they did, it wastaken care of.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
But you literally got this woman fired.
Steven did, and she did.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
And I've always said you know, nobody gets fired, you
fire yourself.
That's true, that is true.
And this heifer, this nastyheifer and I'm so glad I don't
remember her name, but she cameacross nice, but she wasn't very

(14:25):
serious about the brand, andthis is a big brand this is a
big that we still sell.
Yes, today and um, her knowledgelevel was very poor and she
just wasn't like most of thepeople.
You know, you drink thekool--Aid when you're working
for a company like that, a brand.

(14:45):
Well, she hadn't even sippedthe Kool-Aid and she came.
We were having an event.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yes, an open house, An open house.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
It was very, very busy and it was at our last
location.
For a home store we hadhandicapped parking directly out
front location and we had yeah,we had um handicap parking
directly out front.
Well, don't think she is a repDidn't sling her car up into the

(15:16):
handicap space.
So that was the first turnoff,cause I'm like there ain't
nothing wrong with you, honey,you could, you could walk a
minute.
Because I'm like there ain'tnothing wrong with you, honey,
you could walk a minute.
So I was like, okay, that's abig turnoff to me, but it gets
better.
And so she's there and I'm likewhy is she even here, like

(15:38):
she's doing nothing?
So I'm walking around and Ilook outside, outside, and she
is sitting in her car, herwindows are down, she has her
shoes off and her feet slung outthe window, the side window of
her car.

(15:58):
Yeah, lay down in the car.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, taking a break, just relax, just like she's at
the car.
Yeah, taking a break, justrelaxing, just like she's at the
beach.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I was like what?
In a handicapped space?
Yeah, I was so embarrassed forher.
Yeah, but I was also like whothe hell does this?
Right, you know, when you'rerepresenting a brand, I'm like
Well, and she came in and shedidn't like you said.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
She didn't know anything about the like brand.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, I don't want to call it out because people
would know what brand it is.
But I mean, it wasembarrassingly not knowing
anything.
And then she was laid out therein a handicapped parking space
like a like she was drunk shewasn't drunk no, she wasn't
drunk, she was just stupid andum.

(16:52):
So I told her boss.
I was like I've neverexperienced anything like this
from anybody that works in thiscompany, but I felt like
somebody needed to know.
Yeah, and she went bye-bye andI'm assuming you know.
If her behavior was that gross,right?

(17:15):
Can you imagine everything elseshe was doing?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
And they probably picked up on it already, but
that was the end of her.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
The end.
I don't know where she is nowshe should.
I don't even know where sheshould work.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
Like a gas station.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Third shift, because she could handle that Maybe
she's selling peat picks now, itwas so.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
He was so disgusted, I was just so he came in.
I was so put out yes, you werejust.
You can see you just spinningaround.
Just Just he was over the top.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Well, first of all, like, okay, I don't have, thank
God, I don't have anydisabilities and no one in my
family really does.
However, we could break our legor have something wrong with us
at any time and I just feellike, don't park in that space,

(18:16):
right, people need it.
Right, and especially whenyou're fine like if she had hurt
her leg and was on crutches butdidn't have a sticker I would
be like, well, she really doesneed it.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
What the damn thing wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
And then to do that, to like stick her feet out the
window and people, it was righton the sidewalk.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, it was right in front of our door, this
location.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
It was like and I was like and it was busy.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
It was a spring open house, nice day like today, yeah
.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
She was just.
Her dogs were barking and shewas ironing them out Needed to
air them out.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Oh my gosh.
And you know they smelled.
You know it.
Oh my gosh, that is crazy.
So I went through our some textmessages from our hotline.
Oh gosh, before we get intothat, though, today, when you're
listening to, the day that thiscomes out is tuesday and if you

(19:17):
happen to listen early enough,we are going to be at the
atlanta market doing live salesfrom one of our on tuesday, on
tuesday.
So if you happen to listen tothis early in the morning, we're
going to be live sometime inthe afternoon, eastern time,
probably one ish, I don't know.
We'll probably start around oneum eastern time.
We're going to be live at themarket.
So jump in um the nested figapp and watch us live and you

(19:40):
can pre-order some fun things.
So that's going to be.
I know that's only relevant onone day, but I just wanted to
throw it in there in case youweren't paying attention and was
like oh, let me jump in on that.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Help us not have to sell feet pics.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, exactly so, and get the Nested Fig app.
If you don't have our app yet,it's always down in the show
notes.
Always put the link down there.
Or you can just search theNested Fig in your app store for
your phone, tablet, android,apple.
We are there, you can find us.
But what was I talking about?
Oh, I went through our squirrelyeah, I know Went through our

(20:19):
text messages for our hotline,where you can always text us,
and pulled out a couple of funnyones.
So a few episodes back we weretalking about Funny ones.
So a few episodes back we weretalking about.
I think this was stem from whenwe were talking about the
generation taking or bringingtheir parents to interviews with

(20:41):
them, which, I have to say,daniel listened to that episode
and he was like that's notreally a thing and I was like
yes, it is a thing, like hethought we just honed in on some
little one-off like thing and Iwas like no people responded.
It is truly a thing.
And he was like okay.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I was like, yeah, it's really a thing.
But anyway, from that someonetext in and this is a fun idea,
I think you need to do this morethan me.
I'll pick up some extra slackand you could go do this.
They suggested that we need tobe substitute teachers for just
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Oh hell, I would be in.
Do you want me to go to jail?
Because the first one thatsmarted off to me, I would be
like I will kill you.
I will end you right now.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
I busted out laughing at the thought of that for
either of us we would not.
I would be late.
First of all, first of all, wewould not make it to school on
time Never did.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
First of all, first of all we would not make it to
school on time.
Uh, never did.
Second of all, I would order, Iwould.
I would order food fromdoordash.
Yeah, I would have somethingbrought in caught starbucks.
But you.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Neither one of us would handle kids like not
obeying or smarting off orsomething like that.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
I would be like you have had zero raising and a lot
of kids.
I'm going to tell you listen, Idon't have children.
I know I don't.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
But some of them ain't Well and they were saying
and it's also the parents' faulttoo, but we ain't getting into
that, but just the idea of youbeing in a room full of kids and
Stephen loves kids, I love kids, I love kids.
Yeah, and you're very good, butin a room full and if they
didn't obey he would.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
But I'm going to tell you something my 30 years in
McDonald's is like being ateacher in some regards and, fun
fact, if most people thatbecome McDonald's owners, that
is a second career, obviouslybecause you have to have a
little bit of money to do that.

(23:09):
So they're second careers.
And the number one professionfor owners is teachers and high
school principals.
Oh really, mm-hmm.
And I get it now, like at firstI was like really yeah, it's
kind of odd.
At first I was like, reallyyeah, it's kind of odd.
But they understand the trainingand the discipline that you

(23:35):
have to have Right and, as goofyas I can be, I am a pretty
disciplined type person.
So I did as a manager and adirector and all the jobs that I
had in McDonald's and as anowner it was.

(23:55):
We had fun, but it was on avery solid foundation of
discipline, Like you're going todo your job and you're going to
do your job right to mystandards.
But we can have fun, but you'regoing to do it my way and,
honestly, I didn't have a lot ofissues with people.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Well, I think everyone in human nature does
good with structure, and it'sabout the structure and when it
gets.
I mean, that's how we run ourstores.
Now we expect you to do yourjob and know your job, and we're
going to let you do your job.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
We're not going to babysit you.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
If we're having to babysit you, there's a problem.
You're the wrong person, right?
So I mean there's alwayscorrections or you have to come
in and guide and guidance andthat sort of thing.
But you set up.
It's the same routine, it'sstructure.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
And that's what you know.
And I always felt like in myrestaurants, like you know and
this was a personal thing All ofmy employees if you worked in
the drive-thru, the frontcounter, wore button-up shirts
and ties and people were likeother owners were like how do
you do that?
And I'm like, well, but it wasjust the expectation set when
they were hired.

(25:17):
This is what we're going to doand I got that.
Where I got that was, you know,I had been in McDonald's for
many, many years in the Statesand the first time I went to
London I toured the McDonald'sthere, and touring the

(25:47):
McDonald's there it opened myeyes.
Like there was a sense of pridethat I had never seen in
working at McDonald's, from thecashiers to the fry cooks.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
But they all had on button up shirts and ties and it
was just a very pridefulprofessional environment and
that was something I took backwhen I came home.
I was like, okay, we can dothis.
And I feel like that is alsowhat makes Chick-fil-A stand out

(26:19):
above McDonald's and everyquick service restaurant is that
expectation and thatprofessionalism they set.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Right, and if you set it from the beginning, then
it's followed Restaurant byrestaurant.
Yeah, Exactly.
See, the problem you know thathappened with McDonald's or is
happening is one of the reasonsyou got out is they went from
wanting owners to have a fewMcDonald's to wanting them to
have yeah.
So when you are stretched thatthin, you can't set that

(26:53):
standard.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
And that's where it begins to suffer Exactly, and
that was my issue with the brand.
Obviously I still bleed ketchup.
But you know I don't understandif you can own three to five
McDonald's and make sevenfigures, you know, if you can
make one and a half milliondollars a year, why, why do you

(27:16):
need 20?
Yeah, who the hell needs thatmuch money?
And it hurts the brand, like Iguess I cared more about the
brand than I did the money, andyou know, it's just not.
It's a different direction,it's different leadership.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
So anyway, Speaking of leadership and I have a I'm
going down my list here I havean ick that kind of plays into
setting the standard and thatsort of thing, and if you're a
parent, I remember my mompracticing this with me.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I can't wait to hear this.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
If you're a parent, it's very important.
But Daniel and I were talkingabout this and it's happened.
Well, we've been together Iguess I don't remember where we
were but a few times this yearwe've been together and we've
met someone, specifically men, Iknow what you're going to talk
about.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
This is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
This was a big deal, and you go to shake their hand
and it's a limp fish and it is abig deal.
This was a big deal and you goto shake their hand and it's a
limp fish.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
And it's a limp fish that is the biggest my doctor.
So when I went frompediatrician to family doctor,
so my whole family went thereand we all talked about it.
This is how our doctors shookour hand.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Oh my gosh, that is the grossest.
It feels like a dead body handyou're shaking.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
It literally makes me literally want to go, ugh.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, and then I'm like you puss yeah, that's it In
my mind, I'm immediately, andif you've got a problem, shaking
hands, do a fist bump.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
It's so much better.
Yeah, and I don't love that.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
But do something.
Don't If you don't know how toshake a hand, and Daniel's done
it and teach your boy,especially that's what I'm
saying my mom was like mm-mm,Let me show you how you shake a
hand.
That's what my mom did, too Firm, but you're not going to break
their hand.
But Daniel, he's like, oh mygosh, like Daniel.
He's like, oh my gosh, the like.
I've met two people men, notyou know whatever and I went to

(29:12):
shake their hand and their handwas limp and I felt like I broke
it.
Like you know, he like squeezedit and it like crunched or
something.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Well, I can always and listen.
I judge on that.
Okay, you're not supposed to dothat, but I do.
I judge parenting.
Oh wow, I.
You're not supposed to do that,but I do.
I judge parenting.
Oh well, I do.
I judge parenting on that,because you drill that into your
kid's head.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, that's like especially like when you go for
a job interview Well, it justputs a and it for me as an owner
of a business and stuff likethat.
If I'm meeting another owner orlike someone that's going to
work for me as an owner of abusiness and stuff like that, if
I'm meeting another owner orsomeone that's going to work for
me like a contractor, anythinglike that, I feel like you're
then like if you don't shake,well then I'm going to dominate

(30:03):
you.
You're submissive to me.
Now I'm going to like you knowwhat I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
well, it's like and I really, I really thought about
it.
Like dylan's little sister,she's in college now.
Yeah, she has her first realboyfriend and he's from out of
state and she brought him hometo meet all of us.
Yeah, we went out to dinner andand immediately, you know, he

(30:31):
came up and shook my hand.
Was it limp?
No, oh, it was like this.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
It was like nice to meet you sir.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, and I was like I immediately in a positive way
judged his parents.
I was like he's been raisedwell, yeah, isn't that?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
crazy.
They reared him well.
It is so crazy the signal If hehad been like what's up?
I would have been like, oh,he's a loser, he's lazy.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
He had no raising.
That's why, in my mind, right,wrong or indifferent, don't
attack me for saying that, oh,attacking me either way.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
But that's how I feel , yeah, I agree, but besides I
feel like I do kind of agreewith you.
I feel like when it's a youngersomeone college, high school,
something like that I do kind ofthink that way.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
And there's a lot of things I don't judge parents on.
So not all behavior I don'timmediately judge, like go to
the parent, yeah, handshakes, Iimmediately judge their parent.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
But when it's an older I'm thinking through this
as we're talking about it I doagree.
If it's like a college, highschool younger, I do kind of
think that way If it's an olderperson, but if it's older, then
I think you're a puss and youare.
Yeah, I'm just like ugh.
I mean, it's disgusting Well,the feel of it, especially when

(32:08):
it's an older I really don'twant anything to do with you.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Yeah, after I'm being honest.
It's true, but now I will tellyou this I will tell you
everyone practiced especiallyfor guys.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, women's a little different because they
can be dainty, you know you canlike.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, they should still have a good firm handshake
but it's not you don't.
I don't judge that as much andthat's probably sexist and wrong
of me, but I don't yeah, it's,but with guys I'm like you're a
puss and um, it's just the way.
But now I grew up my mother, youknow she was great a lot and I

(32:53):
hated this as a kid.
But etiquette Nazi I mean, andsee, I'm very bad and we're on
video.
You'll notice I'm very badabout slouching Not me At dinner
, this is the way I was supposedto sit and if I didn't, I got a

(33:17):
tap on the shoulder and awhisper in the ear Sit up, honey
, sit up, sit up honey, yeah,straighten up, yeah.
And then a lot of times it wasjust a look and I hated that
until I was about 30 years old,yeah.
And then I'm like I understand,yeah, and I mean that was what

(33:43):
I got the most trouble of in myentire life was etiquette and
grammar in my mouth, yeah,grammar in my mouth, yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
You'd be popping off in the mouth.
Yeah, but why?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Why that's stupid, why I got slapped so many times
I couldn't count it and I neverlearned.
I mean, it took me why, why?
Or say mama, say, say I could.
It took me a while, wow.
Or say Mama, say I could.
Say, say Mama, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Say that was your OCD , say it was.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Say Well, and this I'm going to do a little public
service announcement whileyou're, since you bring that up,
because I do, I do have OCD,you do, I do have OCD, and I
want to explain to everybodylistening something about OCD
and what people don't understand.
Ocd is not obsessing about yourwindows being clean or your

(34:47):
house being clean or thingsbeing in order.
That's just being an analperson that likes cleanliness
and organization.
Yeah, OCD is the best way I candescribe it is your brain is
constantly in a loop.
Yeah, you cannot move on.

(35:09):
You cannot move on.
And even if someone answers you, if you're in that loop of
obsessing you can't move on andit will drive you.
You're driving the individualnuts in their own head and then
it's going to drive everybodyaround you nuts and it affects

(35:30):
your mood.
You can't concentrate.
So I always cringe when I hearpeople and they don't mean
anything by it, but they alwayssay, oh, I'm so OCD, yeah,
probably you're not, yeah, and Ihope you're not, because it's
not a good place to be.
Not, and I hope you're notbecause it's not a good place to

(35:54):
be.
And when you know somebody thatin some people have it really
really bad, especially ifthey're not medicated or haven't
found the right medication,it's very, it can be, it can be
really be disabling.
So it's kind of a.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, I can tell that .
I mean mean your anal retentive.
Is that the word about?
You know cleanliness and stufflike that?
That's just a structure, that'sa personality, personality
thing, but your ocd kicks insometimes.
It's been a while since you'vegot on it like I try to control
it have like not an episode, buta time that, like you used to

(36:31):
more and you would get onsomething and be like like I
think we've talked about it Likeare we going to meet Wednesday
at three for this?
Yes, we are.
Then you call me back.
Are we going to meet Wednesday?
Are we good for Wednesday atthree?
Yes, stephen, I already toldyou Now we're going to meet.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yes, yes, yes, yes now we're, we're gonna meet.
Yes, yes, yeah, yes, so nothinghas changed.
As a child and I've, I'veshared this with you as a child
and my poor mother bless herheart, I would drive her crazy.
Yeah, and you know, as a parent, I, you, and there wasn't as

(37:09):
much known about it.
Yeah, I can see.
I mean, I would have hit me.
Mom, can we go to the mall thisweekend?
Yes, honey, promise, mom, Iwant to go to the mall, we're
going, we're going.
We are going to the mall, right, yes, we're going to go to the

(37:30):
mall at 10 am.
We are going to the mall, right?
Yes, we're going to go to themall at 10 am.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
We're going to the mall, sweetie, and it can't Just
on and on, but the medicationis better.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I will tell you, ann, I have noticed in the past
several years and it just reallyhit me in the past month and I
think I probably need to revisitmedication Readjust.
My new and it's probably to dowith age is ailments and health.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Your new OCD yeah.
You told me this the other dayYou'll stay up now.
Yeah, just Googling.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
And all it takes is reading something and this is
what people really need tounderstand about OCD.
I can read, like the othernight.
This is when everything clickedwith me.
I was like, oh my God, stephen,you're doing it, so I'm trying
to be conscious of it.
But I read about Bruce Willisand his frontal lobe dementia.

(38:32):
Okay, I don't think I havedementia.
Hope and pray, I don't.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
You have no signs, let's just go there.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
But then you read, you know.
I read, Robin Williams had it.
Oh well, that's probably thereason Robin committed suicide.
Well, let me read all thesymptoms.
So I read everything that goeswith it.
Then I read well, you know whatvitamins and minerals work
against this, yeah.
And then I read you know, andit's just.

(39:08):
And then you do it again andagain.
Oh no, go here, go here, gohere.
And it's hours, Like yourealize.
For three hours I went downthis rabbit hole and I didn't
even realize I'm diagnosingmyself and it could be anything,

(39:30):
yeah, but it was frontal lobedementia and I thought, oh my
God, I mean, I was exhausted,yeah, and it happens a lot at
night.
But then I realized what Ihadn't been doing.
I had not been taking my twineCBD with the melatonin, yeah, so

(39:57):
I wasn't falling asleep.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
You weren't cutting off.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
So shutting down, like I took it last night and I
shut down, yeah, I rested and Iwasn't any of that nonsense.
Yeah, and I'm not saying likereading isn't good, it's just
saying when you're, when you'reobsessive on something.
Yes, In a loop, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Oh, my goodness.
Well, I have an appointmentcoming up, so we're going to
have to cut this short.
We have five minutes.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Well, we've got to talk about one other thing.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Okay, I had another thing, but I'll save it for next
week, so let's talk about yourthing.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Okay.
So a listener messaged me onthe toenail or the fingernail
thing.
Okay, so I'm not going to.
I don't want to out this personin any way, because we love
some feedback.
Yeah, and it wasn't her familymember, but it was an in-law.

(40:58):
Uh-huh, it wasn't in her familybut it was an in-law.
It wasn't in her family.
But the lady passed away andthey went to clean out her
freezer.
Yeah, and she had saved all ofher son's teeth.
Well, I'm going to tell you, alot of moms did my mom saved
mine.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I had a few feedback on that, Like oh, I do have my
kids' baby teeth, my mom savedmine and I said I'm going to
throw that shit away when shepasses.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
She passed, I couldn't throw it away, so I
have my teeth.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
What are you going to do with them?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I just couldn't.
I felt like she was watching me.
I could not do it.
Yes, I have my cute littleoutfits.
I could not do it.
Yes, I have my cute littleoutfits.
I have my cast.
I have my braces off my leg, Ihave it all.
I don't know why.
Anyway, but here was thewackiest thing the lady had kept
a dirty diaper.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
What, yes, you're going to wait to the end to drop
this down when we got time totalk about it.
So someone's in-law had kept adirty diaper of their kid.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
And where In the freezer with their food?
Okay Well, uh, uh, uh, uh, okay, um well.
So I got a couple of questionsthat you probably don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
First of all, why.
Why are you doing that?
That's the first that.
Okay, but we're going to movepast that.
Was it a number one or numbertwo?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
A number two.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Okay, so there's that .
I just had to know that formyself.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I assume it was a soil.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
How old was the kid?
I mean, like how long had shehad this diaper?
Would you think Like how longdid?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
she have it, I think.
Well, I mean, the child wasgrown and married so decades.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
So this is my main question did your power never go
out and you had to clean outyour freezer in all that time?
I mean our growing up inadulthood never had a power

(43:25):
outage where you just had tothrow everything away.
I mean, oh, I can't processthis.
What Are you for sure?
True this?

Speaker 2 (43:38):
is true.
Yes, the lady.
She thought it was nuts and sheshared it with me and I am so
glad because you know there'ssome that is crazy.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
We're just going to leave you hanging with that one
today.
We're going to settle in onthat.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
But I want to say you will be surprised and listen,
my mother did not have dirtydiaper, anything gross.
But, you know when someonepasses away and you're cleaning
out a house?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I mean, I've heard of people saving like the baby
teeth or hair, like a snippet ofhair.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
And my mom had been in that house 35 years, yeah,
but I knew where all my stuffwas and I had always said, being
the brat I am, I was like Iwould tell her you can save that
crap if you want.
I'm throwing that shit away,yeah, and it came down to that
day.
Even driving there, I was likeit's going in the dumpster and I

(44:39):
opened it.
I was like it's going in thedumpster and I opened it.
I was like can't do it, can'tdo it.
She's watching.
I was like can't do it.
And then I was like I wasdressed so cute.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
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