July 30, 2025 • 23 mins
Hannah and Courtney dive into the dark world of infamous cults through an engaging trivia challenge that tests their knowledge of bizarre beliefs, tragic events, and cult leaders throughout history.
• Taking a competitive cult-themed quiz featuring multiple-choice questions
• Exploring disturbing details about groups like Heaven's Gate, Jonestown, and the Branch Davidians
• Learning surprising facts about cult recruitment tactics and apocalyptic beliefs
• Discovering that the Church of Satan doesn't actually believe in a supernatural Satan
• Discussing the Rajneeshpuram cult's bizarre attempts to control local government
• Highlighting unsolved crimes with a missing persons card for Jamel Williams
• Reflecting on how race and demographics affect which victims receive media attention
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh man, why is it that we get better at talking?
But the greeting?
You know what it is.
It's because, socially, agreeting happens when you
haven't just been sitting herefor six hours, and we've been
sitting here for quite an amountof hours.
So it's weird for me to be likehi, courtney, because you're
already here.
One that sounds forced.
Okay, hi, I'm Hannah and I'mCourtney.
(00:31):
Join us as we delve into truecrime, paranormal encounters and
all things spooky.
Grab your flashlight and getready to wander into the
darkness with us.
This is Wicked Wanderings.
Hi, hannah.
(01:00):
Hi, courtney, I hear that youhave a cult-themed version of
trivia to go along with yourepisode.
So Hannah found this reallycool quiz to do of infamous
cults, and I have to admit thatone you can't see the questions
like until you answer the firstone.
So that's not a thing, but justlooking at the first one, I'm
like shit, I know.
(01:21):
Great.
So you can ask me the first oneand this is good.
We're gonna go back and forththis time, so I don't feel so
bad about myself, but we canboth answer our own Because it
has three multiple choice.
I like the multiple choice.
Multiple choice is a new thingwe're trying here.
Alright, here we go.
You ready, courtney?
I am sort of ready.
What is the name of the cultthat believes humans were
created by aliens Called Elohimwho pretended to be angels when
(01:46):
they appeared in the past?
I'm going to go with realism,go ahead.
Yay, I was right, I saidHeaven's Gate.
Wow.
So realism began in the 1970sand is often associated with
claims that they can clonehumans and an attitude of very
liberal sexuality.
Damn it All.
Right, cora, go right, go ahead, okay.
(02:06):
So question number two thebrethren founded by jimmy t
roberts disallows members fromusing modern conveniences and
forbids children from speaking,looking at members of the
opposite sex or playing playingcorrect.
The brethren believe allcelebration should be saved for
(02:26):
the imminent return of jesuschrist, which has been imminent
since the 1970s.
So the kids can't play.
I see, and this is my problem,I'm like what constitutes as
playing?
Like what childhood activitiesconstitutes as playing?
That seems very vague.
Yeah, I feel like how do youcontrol something that isn't?
(02:48):
It's the, it's the aba and me,the operational definition like
playing includes or does notinclude.
Oh yeah, because to me, readinga book doesn't count as playing
, but it could.
Watching television in today'sage, I would not count as
playing.
I have a lot of questions.
Okay, go ahead.
Which cult is known for its massweddings, with hundreds of
couples married simultaneouslyin huge ceremonies?
(03:11):
I was wrong.
Let's go ahead.
What'd you pick?
I am gonna go with theunification church, which is
correct.
Members of the unificationchurch are sometimes called
moonies because of theirassociation with founder sun
myung moon.
I did the sign of the moon,which I was wrong.
(03:32):
That was an interesting one.
I can honestly say I didn'tknow anything about that before
reading that question.
Next, yes, what did the movementfor the restoration of the Ten
Commandments of God predictwould happen on March 17, 2000?
Hmm, let's see, because I justdid an episode on this.
(03:53):
Guys, the Virgin Mary wouldcome to Earth and carry the
cult's members to Heaven.
Woo, if you listened to lastweek's episode, you would know.
Make sure Rob does that,because that would help.
Yes, when mary did not arrive,the cult leaders caused
explosions and fires that killhundreds of cult members.
We learned about her guys justsaying there's a quiz.
(04:16):
After what is it called when theloved ones of a cult member
arranged to have that personkidnapped away from the cult and
retrained for cult free life?
I know, this one got itdeprogramming.
Yep, that's what I got.
Deprogramming is acontroversial activity that
isn't always successful and thatis deprogramming them of what
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they've learned to believe in,what they were trained on.
Which cult engaged in apractice of recruiting new
members by sending women membersout to have sex with them,
something they called quote, andhere I am quoting flirty
fishing.
Oh God, I got it wrong.
I got it right.
(04:57):
Okay, go ahead, girl.
My guess was the Children ofGod, which was correct.
The Children of God ran intotrouble both because of sexually
transmitted diseases and fortheir publications, which
promoted child adult sexualactivity.
I said Evansgate, so I'm gladyou got it right.
Oh, gross.
And the next one is the People'sTemple Massacre.
Occurred in what South Americannation?
(05:18):
I got that one right.
Go ahead Guyana, guyana, guyana.
I know right, the People'sTemple commun.
Ahead, guyana, guyana, guyana.
I think that's right.
The People's Temple commune inGuyana, called Jonestown, was
the site of the massacre.
How many people died in thePeople's Temple Jonestown
massacre?
This is going to be a trickyone.
All right, I got it.
(05:38):
I got it wrong.
All right, so I got it right918 people died, the worst
cult-based massacre in UShistory.
To be fair, I guessed 1,212,which was also close, worst, but
close, yeah.
What cyanide-laced substance wasgiven to the people's temple
(05:59):
members to facilitate theJonestown Massacre?
Is that right?
Obviously, grape Kool-Aid.
The incident gave rise to thephrase.
Drinking the kool-aid oftenused to mean believing in
something because someone toldyou to, that's good.
Leo ryan was shot by people'stemple guards while attempting
to investigate jonestown.
What government position did hehold?
(06:21):
Oh, I have to reread that onefor myself.
Hang on, I got it wrong,congressman.
Congressman Ryan is the onlymember of the House of
Representatives to beassassinated while in office.
I had guessed US Ambassador ofGuyana.
What did the AM Shinrikyo cultuse to attack the Tokyo subway
(06:43):
system in 1995?
Oh my god.
Oh my God.
I knew this one.
Go for it.
Syringas.
And that attack killed 13people.
What does om syringo mean whentranslated into English?
I got it.
I got it wrong.
(07:03):
Oh, I got it.
I got it wrong.
I got Supreme Truth.
Translation is tricky, sincethe cult's founder combined
since Crete and Japanese tocreate the name, but Supreme
Truth is a generally acceptedtranslation.
Okay, cults preoccupied withpreparing for the end of the
world are often known as I knewthis one, go for it.
(07:27):
Doomsday cultists sometimesbelieve only they will be spared
in the coming apocalypse, butcults have also committed mass
suicide when they thought theworld would end.
What federal agency conductedthe final assault on the Branch
Davidian compound in Waco, texas, in 1983?
I don't know this one, I haveto guess.
Oh my gosh, I would not haveexpected that.
(07:49):
I got it wrong, me too,surprisingly.
So can I say yeah, so it wasthe FBI.
I guessed Homeland Security.
Although the initial ran theBranch of Indian, was conducted
by the Bureau of Alcohol,tobacco, firearms, explosives,
the final assault, which set thecompound on fire, was conducted
by the FBI.
See, that's why I was lookingfor the ATF.
Okay, that makes sense.
(08:11):
Who was the leader of theBranch Davidian cult?
I don't know this one Really.
I guessed it correctly, though.
David Koresh man, who was bornVernon Howell, took over the
cult in the 1980s.
I didn't think I would ever getthat one right with you.
I thought you knew whichterrorist attack was conducted
(08:36):
in the anniversary of andinspired by the branch davidian
waco raid.
Got it, I was between two andit was the second one, not the
one I chose.
Was it wrong?
Oklahoma city bombing, which Ididn't know what you do call
mine.
Yeah, yeah, I knew it wasn'tthe world Trade Center bombing,
no, so Oklahoma City bombing wasthe correct answer.
And the Oklahoma City bombingtargeted a building that housed
(08:56):
federal agencies as revenge forthe Waco incident.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that at alleither.
Actually Interesting.
Okay, what doomsday cultbelieved they were descended
from the Knights Templar anddied in a series of mass murder
slash suicides in the 1990s?
Got it?
I'm guessing?
Okay, did you guess blindly onthis one?
I did, but I got it right.
(09:18):
I didn't get it right.
Okay, you're going to go.
Yeah, go ahead.
Order of the Solar Temple.
The Solar Temple's membersbelieved their leader was Christ
, that they go to another planetwhen they died.
What'd you guess?
By the way, I guessed Order ofthe Solar Temple.
Oh, no, it has to be Faithists.
Okay, you're like.
Then you guessed right.
(09:38):
You guessed right.
All right, go ahead.
What phrase did Charles Mansonuse to describe the apocalyptic
race war he foresaw?
You got this girl.
Helter Skelter.
Manson took the phrase from thebeatles song.
Helter skelter, one of thecultists, wrote it in blood at
one of the murder scenes.
Poor beatles, I know how theygot roped into that.
(09:58):
I'll never understand whatactress was among those murdered
by the manson family.
Duh, it's sharon tate.
I would have known that withoutthe three.
Tate was nine months pregnantat the time that she was killed.
I said grace kelly, why did Ido that?
I'm not really sure.
All right, well, the heavensgate cult committed suicide,
(10:19):
believing they'd be transportedonto a spaceship traveling
behind what comet in 1997?
I got that one wrong.
I did too.
So I had guessed hayley's comet.
I did too.
And then the answer is the hailbop.
Okay, the astronomers that hailbop is named after probably
wish the comet had become famousfor some other reason, probably
.
(10:39):
What notable footwear were theheavenscape cultists all wearing
when they killed themselves?
I got that one wrong.
I got the wrong too.
What did you guess?
The birkenstocks.
Me too.
I just seemed really culty.
But the answer was brand newnike sneakers.
The nike sneakers were astrange detail of the mass
suicide scene that the mediafocused on at the time.
(11:00):
Well, well, it should have beenbirkenstocks.
It should have beenbirkenstocks, just see.
You know, the jesus sandals.
Right, that's what had me.
Oh my god.
What did the rajneesh firm cooldo in oregon in 1985?
Oh my gosh, some of theseanswers are.
(11:20):
The answers here are they sentletter bombs to county committee
members, they poisoned saladbars with salmonella and they
tried to build a nuclear fissionreactor.
Oh my gosh, I would have neverguessed that.
What'd you get?
I put they sent letter bombs tocounty committee members
Because they tried to build anuclear fission reactor.
The answer was they poisonedsalad bars with salmonella.
(11:42):
The salmonella poisoning waspart of a bizarre scheme to gain
control of county government.
Wah, wah.
Next, what other method did therashi sperm cult use to try to
win county elections?
God, I don't think this cultand I were aligned mentally
because I didn't get that oneright either.
All right, so the answer Ididn't do it yet.
I'm giving them the options.
(12:03):
Oh, okay, the answer optionsare they threatened county
election officials who countedthe ballots.
They registered to vote dozensof times each using fake
identities, and they inventedthousands of homeless people to
move to their city.
Okay, go ahead.
What did you guess?
To vote dozens of times eachusing fake identities.
Same, it just felt like itchecked out.
But the correct answer was theyinvited thousands of homeless
(12:25):
people to move to their city.
Seems kind of like humanitarianof them, which is why I was not
expecting that one.
The cult hoped the homelesspeople would pack ballot boxes
in their favor.
Did we mention that it was abizarre scheme?
All right, jay-z knight, founderof the ramtha school, claims to
channel the thoughts of a being.
(12:45):
Who is how old?
I guessed 100 years, because 35000 just seemed too far-fetched
for me.
But apparently 35 000 years.
I didn't get that.
So night channels, a 35 000year old ascended being named
ramtha seems a littlefar-fetched for me, but okay, I
agree.
The town of yerba buena innorthern mexico was home to a
(13:08):
cult in the 1960s, led by aformer prostitute.
Go for her.
Who did what to those who triedto leave the cult?
Okay, killed them and drainedtheir blood in a ritual, had sex
with them to convince themtheir life in the cult would be
better, or cut out their tonguesso they couldn't tell anyone
about the cult.
I feel like this is a trick.
It really is.
I got it wrong me too.
(13:29):
What one did you guess cut outtheir tongues?
I said, had sex with them?
Okay, the answer was killedthem and drank their blood in a
ritual.
Magdalena solis possiblysuffered from delusions that she
was a reincarnated inkingoddess and needed to drink
blood to maintain her immort maygo for her.
Okay, thelema was a cultcreated by what notorious
(13:50):
English occultist?
I got that one wrong.
Get out of town.
No, you did not.
Courtney, I sure did.
Okay, well, I got AlistairCrowley.
Please tell me it was Margaretat least.
No, I guessed Ozzie.
No, you did not.
Poor Ozzie, I was poor.
You haven't fed me all day.
True, this is a cult.
(14:12):
Crowley was once described asthe weakest man in the world.
The establishment of a caliphateand an apocalyptic battle in
the Middle East are the goals ofthe terrorist group known as
ISIS.
Wrong, no, isis is correct.
No, I said Hamas, I'm sorry.
While other Islamic terroristgroups have political goals
(14:35):
alongside their religious aims,isis cult-like goals are
primarily based on a religiousprophecy my turn or your turn.
It's your turn, okay.
A far right cult active in theUS in the 1970s and 80s that
advocated white supremacy wascalled the Covenant, covenant,
the sword and the blank.
I got it wrong, me too.
What did you guess?
(14:55):
A flame.
I guessed righteous path.
It apparently was arm of thelord and the covenant.
The sword and the arm of thelord fell apart after a peaceful
fbi standoff ended with theleaders being arrested.
Well, sounds like such a lamename.
It is Adolfo Constanzo.
That's a great name.
Leader of a cult in Mexico inthe 1980s that was popular with
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drug cartels, kidnapped andmurdered 15 people.
For what purpose?
I got it right, me too.
He used various body parts tocast dark magic spells.
Constanzo's reputation as ablack magician and spellcaster
was reinforced by the grislybody parts, including brains and
spines, that he extracted fromhis victims.
(15:37):
I like him Interesting.
I like the idea of him.
I like it.
The Church of Satan, here we go,people found in 1966 has a
notable relationship with Satan.
What is it?
And here we go.
They believe each member of thecult is a child of Satan.
They believe their high priestis Satan born in human form, or
(15:58):
they don't actually believe thesupernatural being called Satan
exists?
I know the answer.
Okay, go ahead.
They don't actually believethat a supernatural being called
satan exists.
The church of satan doesn'tworship a literal demonic entity
called satan, which I think isreally important to understand,
because a lot of people, I feellike, have the wrong idea that
the house of god is worshiping agod and the house of satan
(16:21):
worships.
You know satan as this demonic.
What'd you get?
Oh, I didn't look at the scoreat the bottom.
Is there a score?
Yeah, please hold 14 out of 30,me too.
We tied, we both got 14 out of30.
We didn't do too bad then.
That's kind of.
I mean to be fair, we've onlyever covered one cult, yeah.
(16:41):
So really we've only done onecall in the time of wicked
wanderings, and I think whenwe've talked about cults before,
we've only done one call in thetime of wicked wanderings, and
I think when we've talked aboutcults before, we really only
knew, like charles manson, Imean, come on, that one's kind
of obvious.
And then we learned about onetoday who sadly didn't make an
appearance.
Really that much one, one butone.
I was surprised by the one but30 questions.
(17:04):
I mean, how many cults exist?
That's a great.
We should look like mother Godwasn't in there.
Mother God, I thought, was acult.
I feel like we might need tofind more cult-like questions.
The Davidians, obviously, theWaco there were a lot in there.
I mean they did comprehensivelycover a lot.
It wasn't like some of theother trivia that I've seen,
where they pick like one thingand then they ask you 16 or 17
(17:25):
questions about just one whereyou're like okay, come on, that
was a good one, hannah.
Thanks, court.
I feel like we took a pre-quiz,for if we're going to learn a
little bit and then take apost-quiz, I love that.
Just a little bit of ABAstrategy for everybody else.
I love that.
Now we need to take pictures ofthe books I've used before so we
(17:46):
can have from our Instagram,which has been revamped Because
Courtney's worked hard on it.
It's up and alive.
Interact with us.
Tag us in posts.
You know, come on, don't makeme sound like a clingy
ex-girlfriend here again, please.
It's like week 672 of me sittinghere begging for someone to
(18:06):
interact with me.
Just a hi, hello, what's up?
Because we know people like us.
That's the thing.
I know people like our content.
I thought I need them to likeus publicly yes, please.
Or share us to your story,anything.
I'd love to see a sharenotification that isn't just
Hannah's bookcase For real Notthat I don't appreciate
(18:27):
Hannahannah's bookcase no, forreal and all of its sharing as
well.
But if there's content thatyou'd like to see that we're not
putting out there I know we'vesaid it a bunch of times, but we
really are feedback drivenpeople, we're used to it we can
take it.
If there's something we do thatyou're like, oh, gag me, stop
doing that um, let us know.
We want to know.
We want to make it what feelsgood for everybody and I am
(18:49):
going to do a, pick a card, anycard.
I can't do a card in a while.
So let's see who we pick.
Do the hot fingers?
Hot fingers, hot fingers.
I am going to let Kenzie Do.
(19:10):
You want to pick a card?
She picked one, she did, shedid, she nudged this one.
Okay, so Kenzie's card is a 10of hearts.
Jamel Williams.
On December 12th 2014, thevictim was picked up by
associates in Dorchester andtraveled, for an unknown reason,
to Randolph.
The victim was shot outside onCanavan Drive in Randolph.
(19:32):
If you have any informationabout this case, please call
1-855-MASOLVE.
December 12th 2014.
I want to know what the daterange on these cards is, because
I feel like some are so far agoand then some, like this, are
really.
I mean, I'm dating myself whenI say 2014 was recently.
Oh, 11.
(19:52):
Oh, my god, don't do that.
You just broke my soul.
Oh, my god, that's disgustingthat no one solved it.
I know, I mean, dorchester iskind of a rough Dorchester.
Dorchester, I don't know,doesn't sound like anybody we
know.
No, we want to do those cards,but it's so depressing it is, it
(20:16):
is.
I mean, maybe there's someother type of card we can look
into.
But I do hope that at thispoint, you know, maybe people
will know something or at thevery least they'll spread the
card around.
I will post it to social media.
On our story, I wonder if Rob atthe end of the year should do
like a blooper reel of us, likeone whole episode.
(20:36):
That's just us verballystimming our brains out, like I
sharted my pants.
Oh, don't put that in.
I don't think anybody's eversaid that on the podcast, but I
do think it would be funny tohear all of the things he clips
out of like random ass stuff,like when you're in the bathroom
and I'm singing the bathroomsong just at the top of my lungs
.
She doesn't allow me to listento her in the bathroom, so let's
(20:58):
do other shit.
I mean, sometimes you got to dowhat you got to do, but I do
think that looking up the cardsand figuring out, kind of, where
these people are and thinkingabout them, because I have to
believe in my heart thatsomething, something gets
updated, that the cards beingout there, and especially for
the cases that aren't the topmedia cases there's several in
our area.
(21:18):
I won't mention them forrespect to the families, but
they get tons of media coveragebecause they're in your face and
because they have connectionsor whatever, and that doesn
doesn't make those familymembers any more valued than the
other family members.
Really, honestly, race comesinto mind, it does, and the
member that I'm holding here inmy hand is an African-American
(21:38):
male, yeah, and so I'm sure thathis case has been based off of
where he lived and his racepushed to the side, but I do
want to start posting picturesof the cars.
I love it.
The more coverage the better.
That's kind of the way that I'mlooking at it.
So yeah, wanderers, that was aninteresting trivia.
(22:00):
I feel like Hannah and I aregetting a little better at
trivia.
I mean, maybe not, but we try.
We tied, which makes me feel alittle bit.
I don't know if that should bea good benchmark for Hannah, but
I feel really good about thefact that we tied, because I've
been really bad the last fewtimes we've done it.
I know Mark has been yelling atme.
I know Lynn from Springfieldhas been yelling at me answers.
So hopefully this time we did alittle better.
(22:23):
We did a little better.
All right, thank you, wanderers, thanks Hannah.
That was a really greatfollow-up to your cult episode,
I'm glad.
Bye, wanderers, bye.
Thanks for listening today.
Wicked Wanderings is hosted byme, hannah, and co-hosted by me,
courtney, and it's produced byRob Fitzpatrick Music by Sasha N
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Oh man, why is it that we get better at talking?
But the greeting?
You know what it is.
It's because, socially, agreeting happens when you
haven't just been sitting herefor six hours, and we've been
sitting here for quite an amountof hours.
So it's weird for me to be likehi, courtney, because you're
already here.
One that sounds forced.
Okay, hi, I'm Hannah and I'mCourtney.
(00:31):
Join us as we delve into truecrime, paranormal encounters and
all things spooky.
Grab your flashlight and getready to wander into the
darkness with us.
This is Wicked Wanderings.
Hi, hannah.
(01:00):
Hi, courtney, I hear that youhave a cult-themed version of
trivia to go along with yourepisode.
So Hannah found this reallycool quiz to do of infamous
cults, and I have to admit thatone you can't see the questions
like until you answer the firstone.
So that's not a thing, but justlooking at the first one, I'm
like shit, I know.
(01:21):
Great.
So you can ask me the first oneand this is good.
We're gonna go back and forththis time, so I don't feel so
bad about myself, but we canboth answer our own Because it
has three multiple choice.
I like the multiple choice.
Multiple choice is a new thingwe're trying here.
Alright, here we go.
You ready, courtney?
I am sort of ready.
What is the name of the cultthat believes humans were
created by aliens Called Elohimwho pretended to be angels when
(01:46):
they appeared in the past?
I'm going to go with realism,go ahead.
Yay, I was right, I saidHeaven's Gate.
Wow.
So realism began in the 1970sand is often associated with
claims that they can clonehumans and an attitude of very
liberal sexuality.
Damn it All.
Right, cora, go right, go ahead, okay.
(02:06):
So question number two thebrethren founded by jimmy t
roberts disallows members fromusing modern conveniences and
forbids children from speaking,looking at members of the
opposite sex or playing playingcorrect.
The brethren believe allcelebration should be saved for
(02:26):
the imminent return of jesuschrist, which has been imminent
since the 1970s.
So the kids can't play.
I see, and this is my problem,I'm like what constitutes as
playing?
Like what childhood activitiesconstitutes as playing?
That seems very vague.
Yeah, I feel like how do youcontrol something that isn't?
(02:48):
It's the, it's the aba and me,the operational definition like
playing includes or does notinclude.
Oh yeah, because to me, readinga book doesn't count as playing
, but it could.
Watching television in today'sage, I would not count as
playing.
I have a lot of questions.
Okay, go ahead.
Which cult is known for its massweddings, with hundreds of
couples married simultaneouslyin huge ceremonies?
(03:11):
I was wrong.
Let's go ahead.
What'd you pick?
I am gonna go with theunification church, which is
correct.
Members of the unificationchurch are sometimes called
moonies because of theirassociation with founder sun
myung moon.
I did the sign of the moon,which I was wrong.
(03:32):
That was an interesting one.
I can honestly say I didn'tknow anything about that before
reading that question.
Next, yes, what did the movementfor the restoration of the Ten
Commandments of God predictwould happen on March 17, 2000?
Hmm, let's see, because I justdid an episode on this.
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Guys, the Virgin Mary wouldcome to Earth and carry the
cult's members to Heaven.
Woo, if you listened to lastweek's episode, you would know.
Make sure Rob does that,because that would help.
Yes, when mary did not arrive,the cult leaders caused
explosions and fires that killhundreds of cult members.
We learned about her guys justsaying there's a quiz.
(04:16):
After what is it called when theloved ones of a cult member
arranged to have that personkidnapped away from the cult and
retrained for cult free life?
I know, this one got itdeprogramming.
Yep, that's what I got.
Deprogramming is acontroversial activity that
isn't always successful and thatis deprogramming them of what
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they've learned to believe in,what they were trained on.
Which cult engaged in apractice of recruiting new
members by sending women membersout to have sex with them,
something they called quote, andhere I am quoting flirty
fishing.
Oh God, I got it wrong.
I got it right.
(04:57):
Okay, go ahead, girl.
My guess was the Children ofGod, which was correct.
The Children of God ran intotrouble both because of sexually
transmitted diseases and fortheir publications, which
promoted child adult sexualactivity.
I said Evansgate, so I'm gladyou got it right.
Oh, gross.
And the next one is the People'sTemple Massacre.
Occurred in what South Americannation?
(05:18):
I got that one right.
Go ahead Guyana, guyana, guyana.
I know right, the People'sTemple commun.
Ahead, guyana, guyana, guyana.
I think that's right.
The People's Temple commune inGuyana, called Jonestown, was
the site of the massacre.
How many people died in thePeople's Temple Jonestown
massacre?
This is going to be a trickyone.
All right, I got it.
(05:38):
I got it wrong.
All right, so I got it right918 people died, the worst
cult-based massacre in UShistory.
To be fair, I guessed 1,212,which was also close, worst, but
close, yeah.
What cyanide-laced substance wasgiven to the people's temple
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members to facilitate theJonestown Massacre?
Is that right?
Obviously, grape Kool-Aid.
The incident gave rise to thephrase.
Drinking the kool-aid oftenused to mean believing in
something because someone toldyou to, that's good.
Leo ryan was shot by people'stemple guards while attempting
to investigate jonestown.
What government position did hehold?
(06:21):
Oh, I have to reread that onefor myself.
Hang on, I got it wrong,congressman.
Congressman Ryan is the onlymember of the House of
Representatives to beassassinated while in office.
I had guessed US Ambassador ofGuyana.
What did the AM Shinrikyo cultuse to attack the Tokyo subway
(06:43):
system in 1995?
Oh my god.
Oh my God.
I knew this one.
Go for it.
Syringas.
And that attack killed 13people.
What does om syringo mean whentranslated into English?
I got it.
I got it wrong.
(07:03):
Oh, I got it.
I got it wrong.
I got Supreme Truth.
Translation is tricky, sincethe cult's founder combined
since Crete and Japanese tocreate the name, but Supreme
Truth is a generally acceptedtranslation.
Okay, cults preoccupied withpreparing for the end of the
world are often known as I knewthis one, go for it.
(07:27):
Doomsday cultists sometimesbelieve only they will be spared
in the coming apocalypse, butcults have also committed mass
suicide when they thought theworld would end.
What federal agency conductedthe final assault on the Branch
Davidian compound in Waco, texas, in 1983?
I don't know this one, I haveto guess.
Oh my gosh, I would not haveexpected that.
(07:49):
I got it wrong, me too,surprisingly.
So can I say yeah, so it wasthe FBI.
I guessed Homeland Security.
Although the initial ran theBranch of Indian, was conducted
by the Bureau of Alcohol,tobacco, firearms, explosives,
the final assault, which set thecompound on fire, was conducted
by the FBI.
See, that's why I was lookingfor the ATF.
Okay, that makes sense.
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Who was the leader of theBranch Davidian cult?
I don't know this one Really.
I guessed it correctly, though.
David Koresh man, who was bornVernon Howell, took over the
cult in the 1980s.
I didn't think I would ever getthat one right with you.
I thought you knew whichterrorist attack was conducted
(08:36):
in the anniversary of andinspired by the branch davidian
waco raid.
Got it, I was between two andit was the second one, not the
one I chose.
Was it wrong?
Oklahoma city bombing, which Ididn't know what you do call
mine.
Yeah, yeah, I knew it wasn'tthe world Trade Center bombing,
no, so Oklahoma City bombing wasthe correct answer.
And the Oklahoma City bombingtargeted a building that housed
(08:56):
federal agencies as revenge forthe Waco incident.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know that at alleither.
Actually Interesting.
Okay, what doomsday cultbelieved they were descended
from the Knights Templar anddied in a series of mass murder
slash suicides in the 1990s?
Got it?
I'm guessing?
Okay, did you guess blindly onthis one?
I did, but I got it right.
(09:18):
I didn't get it right.
Okay, you're going to go.
Yeah, go ahead.
Order of the Solar Temple.
The Solar Temple's membersbelieved their leader was Christ
, that they go to another planetwhen they died.
What'd you guess?
By the way, I guessed Order ofthe Solar Temple.
Oh, no, it has to be Faithists.
Okay, you're like.
Then you guessed right.
(09:38):
You guessed right.
All right, go ahead.
What phrase did Charles Mansonuse to describe the apocalyptic
race war he foresaw?
You got this girl.
Helter Skelter.
Manson took the phrase from thebeatles song.
Helter skelter, one of thecultists, wrote it in blood at
one of the murder scenes.
Poor beatles, I know how theygot roped into that.
(09:58):
I'll never understand whatactress was among those murdered
by the manson family.
Duh, it's sharon tate.
I would have known that withoutthe three.
Tate was nine months pregnantat the time that she was killed.
I said grace kelly, why did Ido that?
I'm not really sure.
All right, well, the heavensgate cult committed suicide,
(10:19):
believing they'd be transportedonto a spaceship traveling
behind what comet in 1997?
I got that one wrong.
I did too.
So I had guessed hayley's comet.
I did too.
And then the answer is the hailbop.
Okay, the astronomers that hailbop is named after probably
wish the comet had become famousfor some other reason, probably
.
(10:39):
What notable footwear were theheavenscape cultists all wearing
when they killed themselves?
I got that one wrong.
I got the wrong too.
What did you guess?
The birkenstocks.
Me too.
I just seemed really culty.
But the answer was brand newnike sneakers.
The nike sneakers were astrange detail of the mass
suicide scene that the mediafocused on at the time.
(11:00):
Well, well, it should have beenbirkenstocks.
It should have beenbirkenstocks, just see.
You know, the jesus sandals.
Right, that's what had me.
Oh my god.
What did the rajneesh firm cooldo in oregon in 1985?
Oh my gosh, some of theseanswers are.
(11:20):
The answers here are they sentletter bombs to county committee
members, they poisoned saladbars with salmonella and they
tried to build a nuclear fissionreactor.
Oh my gosh, I would have neverguessed that.
What'd you get?
I put they sent letter bombs tocounty committee members
Because they tried to build anuclear fission reactor.
The answer was they poisonedsalad bars with salmonella.
(11:42):
The salmonella poisoning waspart of a bizarre scheme to gain
control of county government.
Wah, wah.
Next, what other method did therashi sperm cult use to try to
win county elections?
God, I don't think this cultand I were aligned mentally
because I didn't get that oneright either.
All right, so the answer Ididn't do it yet.
I'm giving them the options.
(12:03):
Oh, okay, the answer optionsare they threatened county
election officials who countedthe ballots.
They registered to vote dozensof times each using fake
identities, and they inventedthousands of homeless people to
move to their city.
Okay, go ahead.
What did you guess?
To vote dozens of times eachusing fake identities.
Same, it just felt like itchecked out.
But the correct answer was theyinvited thousands of homeless
(12:25):
people to move to their city.
Seems kind of like humanitarianof them, which is why I was not
expecting that one.
The cult hoped the homelesspeople would pack ballot boxes
in their favor.
Did we mention that it was abizarre scheme?
All right, jay-z knight, founderof the ramtha school, claims to
channel the thoughts of a being.
(12:45):
Who is how old?
I guessed 100 years, because 35000 just seemed too far-fetched
for me.
But apparently 35 000 years.
I didn't get that.
So night channels, a 35 000year old ascended being named
ramtha seems a littlefar-fetched for me, but okay, I
agree.
The town of yerba buena innorthern mexico was home to a
(13:08):
cult in the 1960s, led by aformer prostitute.
Go for her.
Who did what to those who triedto leave the cult?
Okay, killed them and drainedtheir blood in a ritual, had sex
with them to convince themtheir life in the cult would be
better, or cut out their tonguesso they couldn't tell anyone
about the cult.
I feel like this is a trick.
It really is.
I got it wrong me too.
(13:29):
What one did you guess cut outtheir tongues?
I said, had sex with them?
Okay, the answer was killedthem and drank their blood in a
ritual.
Magdalena solis possiblysuffered from delusions that she
was a reincarnated inkingoddess and needed to drink
blood to maintain her immort maygo for her.
Okay, thelema was a cultcreated by what notorious
(13:50):
English occultist?
I got that one wrong.
Get out of town.
No, you did not.
Courtney, I sure did.
Okay, well, I got AlistairCrowley.
Please tell me it was Margaretat least.
No, I guessed Ozzie.
No, you did not.
Poor Ozzie, I was poor.
You haven't fed me all day.
True, this is a cult.
(14:12):
Crowley was once described asthe weakest man in the world.
The establishment of a caliphateand an apocalyptic battle in
the Middle East are the goals ofthe terrorist group known as
ISIS.
Wrong, no, isis is correct.
No, I said Hamas, I'm sorry.
While other Islamic terroristgroups have political goals
(14:35):
alongside their religious aims,isis cult-like goals are
primarily based on a religiousprophecy my turn or your turn.
It's your turn, okay.
A far right cult active in theUS in the 1970s and 80s that
advocated white supremacy wascalled the Covenant, covenant,
the sword and the blank.
I got it wrong, me too.
What did you guess?
(14:55):
A flame.
I guessed righteous path.
It apparently was arm of thelord and the covenant.
The sword and the arm of thelord fell apart after a peaceful
fbi standoff ended with theleaders being arrested.
Well, sounds like such a lamename.
It is Adolfo Constanzo.
That's a great name.
Leader of a cult in Mexico inthe 1980s that was popular with
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drug cartels, kidnapped andmurdered 15 people.
For what purpose?
I got it right, me too.
He used various body parts tocast dark magic spells.
Constanzo's reputation as ablack magician and spellcaster
was reinforced by the grislybody parts, including brains and
spines, that he extracted fromhis victims.
(15:37):
I like him Interesting.
I like the idea of him.
I like it.
The Church of Satan, here we go,people found in 1966 has a
notable relationship with Satan.
What is it?
And here we go.
They believe each member of thecult is a child of Satan.
They believe their high priestis Satan born in human form, or
(15:58):
they don't actually believe thesupernatural being called Satan
exists?
I know the answer.
Okay, go ahead.
They don't actually believethat a supernatural being called
satan exists.
The church of satan doesn'tworship a literal demonic entity
called satan, which I think isreally important to understand,
because a lot of people, I feellike, have the wrong idea that
the house of god is worshiping agod and the house of satan
(16:21):
worships.
You know satan as this demonic.
What'd you get?
Oh, I didn't look at the scoreat the bottom.
Is there a score?
Yeah, please hold 14 out of 30,me too.
We tied, we both got 14 out of30.
We didn't do too bad then.
That's kind of.
I mean to be fair, we've onlyever covered one cult, yeah.
(16:41):
So really we've only done onecall in the time of wicked
wanderings, and I think whenwe've talked about cults before,
we've only done one call in thetime of wicked wanderings, and
I think when we've talked aboutcults before, we really only
knew, like charles manson, Imean, come on, that one's kind
of obvious.
And then we learned about onetoday who sadly didn't make an
appearance.
Really that much one, one butone.
I was surprised by the one but30 questions.
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I mean, how many cults exist?
That's a great.
We should look like mother Godwasn't in there.
Mother God, I thought, was acult.
I feel like we might need tofind more cult-like questions.
The Davidians, obviously, theWaco there were a lot in there.
I mean they did comprehensivelycover a lot.
It wasn't like some of theother trivia that I've seen,
where they pick like one thingand then they ask you 16 or 17
(17:25):
questions about just one whereyou're like okay, come on, that
was a good one, hannah.
Thanks, court.
I feel like we took a pre-quiz,for if we're going to learn a
little bit and then take apost-quiz, I love that.
Just a little bit of ABAstrategy for everybody else.
I love that.
Now we need to take pictures ofthe books I've used before so we
(17:46):
can have from our Instagram,which has been revamped Because
Courtney's worked hard on it.
It's up and alive.
Interact with us.
Tag us in posts.
You know, come on, don't makeme sound like a clingy
ex-girlfriend here again, please.
It's like week 672 of me sittinghere begging for someone to
(18:06):
interact with me.
Just a hi, hello, what's up?
Because we know people like us.
That's the thing.
I know people like our content.
I thought I need them to likeus publicly yes, please.
Or share us to your story,anything.
I'd love to see a sharenotification that isn't just
Hannah's bookcase For real Notthat I don't appreciate
(18:27):
Hannahannah's bookcase no, forreal and all of its sharing as
well.
But if there's content thatyou'd like to see that we're not
putting out there I know we'vesaid it a bunch of times, but we
really are feedback drivenpeople, we're used to it we can
take it.
If there's something we do thatyou're like, oh, gag me, stop
doing that um, let us know.
We want to know.
We want to make it what feelsgood for everybody and I am
(18:49):
going to do a, pick a card, anycard.
I can't do a card in a while.
So let's see who we pick.
Do the hot fingers?
Hot fingers, hot fingers.
I am going to let Kenzie Do.
(19:10):
You want to pick a card?
She picked one, she did, shedid, she nudged this one.
Okay, so Kenzie's card is a 10of hearts.
Jamel Williams.
On December 12th 2014, thevictim was picked up by
associates in Dorchester andtraveled, for an unknown reason,
to Randolph.
The victim was shot outside onCanavan Drive in Randolph.
(19:32):
If you have any informationabout this case, please call
1-855-MASOLVE.
December 12th 2014.
I want to know what the daterange on these cards is, because
I feel like some are so far agoand then some, like this, are
really.
I mean, I'm dating myself whenI say 2014 was recently.
Oh, 11.
(19:52):
Oh, my god, don't do that.
You just broke my soul.
Oh, my god, that's disgustingthat no one solved it.
I know, I mean, dorchester iskind of a rough Dorchester.
Dorchester, I don't know,doesn't sound like anybody we
know.
No, we want to do those cards,but it's so depressing it is, it
(20:16):
is.
I mean, maybe there's someother type of card we can look
into.
But I do hope that at thispoint, you know, maybe people
will know something or at thevery least they'll spread the
card around.
I will post it to social media.
On our story, I wonder if Rob atthe end of the year should do
like a blooper reel of us, likeone whole episode.
(20:36):
That's just us verballystimming our brains out, like I
sharted my pants.
Oh, don't put that in.
I don't think anybody's eversaid that on the podcast, but I
do think it would be funny tohear all of the things he clips
out of like random ass stuff,like when you're in the bathroom
and I'm singing the bathroomsong just at the top of my lungs
.
She doesn't allow me to listento her in the bathroom, so let's
(20:58):
do other shit.
I mean, sometimes you got to dowhat you got to do, but I do
think that looking up the cardsand figuring out, kind of, where
these people are and thinkingabout them, because I have to
believe in my heart thatsomething, something gets
updated, that the cards beingout there, and especially for
the cases that aren't the topmedia cases there's several in
our area.
(21:18):
I won't mention them forrespect to the families, but
they get tons of media coveragebecause they're in your face and
because they have connectionsor whatever, and that doesn
doesn't make those familymembers any more valued than the
other family members.
Really, honestly, race comesinto mind, it does, and the
member that I'm holding here inmy hand is an African-American
(21:38):
male, yeah, and so I'm sure thathis case has been based off of
where he lived and his racepushed to the side, but I do
want to start posting picturesof the cars.
I love it.
The more coverage the better.
That's kind of the way that I'mlooking at it.
So yeah, wanderers, that was aninteresting trivia.
(22:00):
I feel like Hannah and I aregetting a little better at
trivia.
I mean, maybe not, but we try.
We tied, which makes me feel alittle bit.
I don't know if that should bea good benchmark for Hannah, but
I feel really good about thefact that we tied, because I've
been really bad the last fewtimes we've done it.
I know Mark has been yelling atme.
I know Lynn from Springfieldhas been yelling at me answers.
So hopefully this time we did alittle better.
(22:23):
We did a little better.
All right, thank you, wanderers, thanks Hannah.
That was a really greatfollow-up to your cult episode,
I'm glad.
Bye, wanderers, bye.
Thanks for listening today.
Wicked Wanderings is hosted byme, hannah, and co-hosted by me,
courtney, and it's produced byRob Fitzpatrick Music by Sasha N
.
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