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July 7, 2025 72 mins

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“A threshold is a symbol of change . . . The threshold becomes the entrance of that change, of that movement.”


— Urana Jackson


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This conversation with Urana unfolds as a rich inquiry into healing as an initiatory process—an embodied, relational, and sacred threshold crossing. Tracing the roots of her work with Safe House Seven, Urana reflects on the pivotal experiences that shaped her path: growing up amid the “brackish” confluence of ocean and natural spring, navigating a complex multicultural identity, and integrating Yoruba healing traditions with Western psychological praxis.


We explore the psycho-somatic-social-spiritual architecture of thresholds—how they appear in personal, cultural, and collective transformation—and why approaching them with intention, containment, and reverence is essential, especially for those most impacted by systems of oppression. Urana speaks to the power of ancestral connection, the necessity of reciprocity in healing, and the ways psychedelic medicine can be integrated into liberatory frameworks for BIPOC communities.


With grounded insight and visionary clarity, Urana invites us to reimagine healing not as a solo endeavour or clinical quick fix, but as a lifelong rite of relational liberation.




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