May 16, 2025 • 16 mins
Ever wondered if sheer human numbers could overcome raw primal power? We tackle the bizarre question that's sparked countless bar debates: could 100 unarmed men defeat a single silverback gorilla in combat?
The numbers are staggering. A silverback possesses 4-9 times the strength of a trained athlete, can lift over 1,800 pounds, and sports a bite force exceeding 1,300 PSI. Their thick muscles and dense bones make them nearly impervious to blunt force trauma. But their Achilles' heel? Limited endurance—just 1-2 minutes of explosive strength before fatigue begins to set in.
We meticulously break down the combat mathematics: during those devastating initial minutes, the gorilla could eliminate 15-30 men with terrifying efficiency. The psychological impact of witnessing such carnage would trigger panic among many remaining fighters. The turning point comes when the beast begins to tire. Could a coordinated flanking maneuver with 20+ men restraining its limbs and vital areas turn the tide? Even then, experts suggest victory isn't guaranteed—a cornered, exhausted gorilla remains capable of breaking limbs and crushing windpipes with minimal effort.
What makes this thought experiment fascinating isn't just the physical matchup, but how it highlights human adaptability versus raw strength. When facing such a threat to protect loved ones, even the most civilized among us admitted they would resort to desperate measures without hesitation. The conversation takes unexpected turns with surprising gorilla anatomy facts (they have the smallest phallus of all apes!) while examining our primal protective instincts that emerge when survival is at stake.
Join us for this outrageous yet thought-provoking exploration of nature's power dynamics. Would you brave being in the first wave, or hang back for the coordinated takedown? Listen and decide where you'd stand when facing nature's perfect killing machine.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Welcome, welcome back to who Will Survive.
It's a new segment.
That's pretty good who willsurvive 100 men or one
silverback gorilla.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Will you?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
survive.
I asked ChatGPT could 100 menbeat a silverback gorilla?
It says no.
100 unarmed men would almostcertainly not beat a silverback
gorilla in a fair fight,especially in an open
environment.
Here's why Strength Asilverback is four to nine times
greater than a trained humanathlete.
It can lift over 1,800 poundsand has a bite force of over
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1,300 PSI.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Durability.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hang on.
Let me finish the answerDurability.
Gorillas have thick muscles,dense bones and an insane pain
threshold.
Blunt force doesn't phase themlike it would a human Speed and
aggression.
It can charge at 20 to 25 milesper hour, tear limbs and climb
with ease.
It fights to kill, not just tosubdue and tactics.
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A hundred men can't all attackat once.
In a tight space they'rebottlenecked, and in an open
space they scatter or get pickedoff, unless the men are trained
, armed or tacticallycoordinated like a military unit
, and even then it's risky.
The gorilla's raw physicalsuperiority means it would
likely tear through the crowduntil it's overwhelmed by sheer
exhaustion or injury, if at all.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So Is that the end?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's the end.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Okay, tj, do you want to go first?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yes.
What would we like to clarify?
Does the gorilla have infinitestamina?
No, have you seen gorillasfight?
It says it only lasts for likea minute maybe, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So let's ask yeah, would.
Would the gorilla's lowendurance?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, why don't we confirm that?
First Ask how long could agorilla fight with sustained
strength.
Is that a good question, TJ?
I think so.
How long could a gorilla fightwith sustained strength?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
With sustained strength.
Okay, sure Chow.
Gpt says A silverback gorillacan fight with sustained
explosive strength for about oneto two minutes, maybe slightly
longer if it's highly agitatedor defending its troop.
That might not sound long, butduring that time it could easily
maim or kill multiple opponents.
Here's the breakdown.
Muscle type gorillas have a lotof fast twitch muscle fibers.
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Great for bursts of power, notendurance.
Cardiovascular limitations.
Like most great apes, gorillasare not built for long chases or
prolonged combat.
They tire quickly after intenseeffort.
Behaviorally, in the wildgorilla fights rarely last more
than a few seconds to a minute.
They usually end in bluffcharges or quick, brutal
exchanges.
That said, even tired quote, agorilla is still stronger than
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any human and can lash out ifcornered or provoked.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So there's something that we need to clarify.
With chat GPT, I don't think itunderstands that we're talking
about 100 men at the same time,not one after the other after
the other.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yes, but it said in an earlier answer.
It said 100 men can't allattack at once.
In a tight space theybottleneck, and in an open space
they scatter or get picked off.
Reminder that it can charge 20to 25 miles an hour real quick,
right.
So it can charge through eightmen at one time with little
exhaustion there and that's justrunning.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
That's not even doing anything which is why I said it
would easily start decimatingin the first minute to two
minutes.
It would decimate that hundred.
It would drop down to 90.
We could drop down to 80, noproblem.
However, after that period,once it charges in and men flank
it, now how could that gorillacontinue to fight?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
we ask chat gtp this how many men would it take to
hold down a gorilla's?
And what I'm saying no, no, no,no, no no.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
What I want to ask is I want to ask a continuation of
its previous answer.
So would your answer bedifferent if 20 men flanked the
gorilla from behind as it wasattacking to hold it down?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, just ask it.
I think a better question.
No, just ask it my question.
No, how many men would it takeYou're fucking up the To hold
down a gorilla's arm?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
No, While it's attacking, see, because we
already established that it's aminute to two minutes.
It's exhausting.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
This is how we find out how many men would it take
to hold down a gorilla's arm.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But we're not talking about.
While it's fresh we're talkingabout, it's already begun its
attack.
It decimates 20 men, no problem, right, do you think it?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
would kill in two minutes.
We could say 30 dudes.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So I'm asking ChatGPT how many men do you think it
would kill in two minutes, intwo minutes of all outrage?
A silverback gorilla couldlikely severely injure or kill
15 to 30 unarmed men maybe more30 men.
Depending on the environmentand how the men approach.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Okay, so you have 70 men taking on an exhausted
gorilla.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Here's how the estimate breaks down One hit
potential A gorilla could knocka man out or kill him with a
single punch, bite or throw.
Limbs could be broken or skullsfractured.
Instantly Attack speedConservatively if it lands a
devastating hit every 3 to fiveseconds.
That's 12 to 14 men every 12 to40 men every two minutes.
Uh, area control in a tightgroup it could grab, toss, bite
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and stomp rapidly if they swarmhim poorly.
Area control in a tight groupit could grab, toss, bite and
stop, stomp rapidly.
If they swarm him poorly, hecould take out more before
tiring Caveat.
If the men coordinate,sacrifice some to distract and
use improvised tools and useimprovised tools, the number
goes down.
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But if they panic or charge inwaves, the gorilla will
absolutely paint the arena red.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Okay, but you didn't ask the question that I wanted
to ask what did you want to ask?
I want to ask what are thechances?
How likely would the gorilla'svictory be if 20 men flanked
behind it to hold it down afterit's already exhausted, after it
killed the first 30?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
How likely would the gorilla's victory be if 20 men
flanked it from behind?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And held it down.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
After Whilst tired From behind and held it down
whilst being exhausted.
Sure Okay, From killing thefirst 30 men.
No 100 gorillas versus 20 men.
If 20 men flanked and swarmed asilverback gorilla from behind
after it had already killed 30men and was physically exhausted
, its chances of victory drop.
But it's still not guaranteedthe men win.
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Here's the breakdown Factorsfavoring the men Fatigue After
two minutes of berserk fighting.
The gorilla would besignificantly winded.
Its burst of power would slowand reaction time might drop.
Surprise flank A winded Itsburst of power would slow and
reaction time might drop.
Surprise flank.
A coordinated attack frombehind exploits its blind spot
and reduces its ability todefend effectively.
Weight and numbers 20 adult menaverage 150 to 200 pounds.
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Each Adds up to 3,000 to 4,000pounds.
That could be enough to pin thegorilla temporarily.
But problems arise.
That's in bold Holding.
It is another story.
Holding down a 400 to 500 poundbeast with the strength of
eight nfl linemen isn't easy.
It can still twist, bite andthrow bodies.
Injuries pile up, even tired.
It could snap limbs and crushwind pipes.
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Of those on top, fear factorthere are unarmed, untrained men
.
Panic and hesitation can turn acoordinated pin into a
bloodbath.
The verdict chances of gorillavictory 30 to 50%.
No, that's higher than Ithought.
If even a few men slip or losegrip, it could break free and
resume carnage.
Chances of human victory 50 to70%, but at severe cost multiple
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deaths and injuries, even insuccess.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
That's interesting.
That's higher than I would havethought.
My next question would be ifthe men are capable of surviving
after seven minutes ofsustained grappling.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You gotta remember well, I think the better
question is what would mensurvive for seven minutes?
Or does it even think that mencould survive for seven minutes?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
well we've.
I think at this point we'vegotten well past.
We were at a minute well, it'salready wiped.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
30 are wiped in the first two minutes, probably
injured because they were theones pinning, trying and what,
what I, what I?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
was actually what I was hoping to accomplish, in
that we're saying pinning, butwhat I was hoping to accomplish
is grabbing its arms and holdingit, because if it's you or I tj
on the front, what are yougonna go for on that gorilla?
Nuts or that's exactly right.
Nuts, throat, eyes.
You're not going for heavilyguarded areas.
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You're not going to jump on itsarms and flail you're.
You're going for its wind pipe,you're going for its nuts.
You're going for its, its softtissue femoral artery.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I need to survive.
I'm grabbing the arms off theground from the 30 men and I'm
just shoving it down his throat.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Just chuck it.
I asked how many men would ittake to hold down an exhausted
gorilla?
It said to physically hold downan exhausted gorilla silverback
gorilla you'd likely need atleast 20 to 30 strong,
coordinated adult men, and eventhen it's a high-risk struggle.
Here's why Gorilla specs, evenexhausted, weigh 400 to 500
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pounds of solid muscle, canstill bench the equivalent of
1,800 pounds.
Even fatigued, its muscles aredenser and more explosive than a
human's.
A tired gorilla is stillstronger than 99% of men's flesh
.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
He is glazing this fucking gorilla.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It really is, because it's like we're we're not
talking about one man at a timeand it keeps putting it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Human effort needed.
It is not doing that.
Human effort needed.
Four to six to pin limbs, twoplus per limb, ideally.
Now here's what I want toconsider Two plus per, I said 20
.
Four to six to pin limbs here's, and that's just each limb.
Here's my thought.
Where are those men standing?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Behind it.
Behind it, you're bringing itsarms down on top of you.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Two to four, to control the head and torso,
minimizing bites and thrashing.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Right, we have 70.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Five to 10 more to back up when the first group
gets injured or overpowered.
That's assuming these are fit,coordinated, unarmed men with no
restraints or tools.
Realistically, if they're nottrained and don't act in sync,
even 30 might fail.
If they use tools, nets, ropes,shields, the number drops.
If the gorilla has zero fightleft and is just struggling
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reflexively, maybe 12 to 15strong men could restrain it
safely mean we're talking about70 but so here's my question yes
, 70 men.
If you just imagine 70 againstone, if you just imagine as
numbers, sure thinkrealistically.
Where are these men standing?
How are they holding it down?
How are 70 men?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
that's a lot of people no, I'm not talking about
70 men holding it down I said20 men, that's five per limb
okay, hold on and a silverbackgorilla is freaking huge let's
see how big a silverback gorillaarm is oh it says, want a
visual diagram or tier list ofhuman versus visual diagram you
can't get that many people inthat small an area.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
We're not talking about necessarily a small area
no, but that's what I imaginedwe said, if they walked into, if
the gorilla came into a village?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
no, but how long is the silverback?
And then, to finish it, ongoogle it says gorilla wiener
what kind of stuff do you lookup?
No, it just like filled it in.
This is like a common thingyou're you ready you're ready,
you're ready, you ready, yeah, I.
I need your guys's guesses.
How long is the silverbackwiener?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
oh, oh.
How long is the oscar meyer?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'm gonna say very hopeful 12 eric it's a it's a 12
incher man, I feel like thatshit can get at least to like 18
inches.
All right, you ready yeah doyou see buffy's good?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
news we're competing with gorillas.
They only got a 1.1.
What the fuck?
You are lying A around threecentimeters.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What the hell they have the smallest phallus of all
apes, bitch.
How do they make babies?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You know what I'm going to start saying.
I'm going to start saying I'mhung like a silverback gorilla
and see who knows.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I will admit, men have a better chance than I
thought they did.
But I think if you add I don'tknow I think if you watch 30 men
be decimated in less than twominutes.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But you're to talk You're not talking about.
This is a run and get away typeof situation.
What?
Either you or the gorilla aregoing down 100 men or it's going
to get through the 100 men andtake out all of your women and
children.
You are all that stands in theway.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think you overestimate me.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You are your family's survival.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I think you overestimate me.
You are your family's survival.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I think you overestimate me.
No, not me.
I'll gladly go.
My problem is is I wouldprobably be the first wave.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, but we're not talking about one man, we're
talking about 100 men.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm saying I would probably be the first wave.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, I don't know If we're talking completely
bloodlusted dudes.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Wait a minute, buffy Buffy.
What dudes?
Wait a minute, buffy buffy.
What are you talking about?
You talking about my uh, hunglike a silverback gorilla
comment?
Or are you talking about the uh, the way that most men will
stand and guard their familyfrom a silverback gorilla?
I need to know.
She said same way most men do.
That could go either way.
Either she heard my comment onstanding in the way of my family
protecting them from thegorilla, or I'm hung like a
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silverback gorilla.
I got to add something to theside of my life.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I got to add a photo.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
She was talking about the three centimeter.
That's comedy, buffy.
Thank you and welcome back.
Love to see you, love to seethe regulars.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I asked Chachi Petit so re-evaluate what are the odds
that men win.
It gives a couple of things,but final verdict If the men are
strong, brave and act inperfect unison, they'll likely
win, but at the cost of seriousinjuries and possibly a few
deaths if they fumble.
The gorilla makes a terrifyingcomeback, wow.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I mean it's not as cut and dry.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I think in a real world situation, men lose
Without tools, If tools areadded, which is what mankind is
known for.
If tools are added, we win 100%of the time.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But I'm with TJ.
The second arms or legs are onthe floor.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't think people are going to have that same.
I would I don't know, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
You got two out of three in this Discord who would
do the same exact thing.
Tj you would.
You say you would Panic chainreaction.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
This is odds of the gorilla.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Screams, blood and fear could disrupt the group's
hold, especially if bites orlimbs break.
If I'm standing, if I'mstanding in the way of my wife
and my two babies getting mauledby a silverback gorilla, I'm
not just saying that I wouldgrab limbs off the ground.
I'm telling you I would.
I would bite.
It's three centimeters off,with no shame.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Remember the gorilla will use to the tools also, it
would, it would I think odds area hundred men and this is
talking about a hundred strong,brave, imperfect unison men
could win, and that's not even ahundred percent what are you
doing, tj, look at the line.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
What did you do?
Oh my, god Alright.
This is my least favorite.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That didn't take much neck rig to cover it up.
Oh, my goodness gracious, theduck in the house.
Thank you, you.
Welcome, welcome back to who Will Survive.
It's a new segment.
That's pretty good who willsurvive 100 men or one
silverback gorilla.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Will you?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
survive.
I asked ChatGPT could 100 menbeat a silverback gorilla?
It says no.
100 unarmed men would almostcertainly not beat a silverback
gorilla in a fair fight,especially in an open
environment.
Here's why Strength Asilverback is four to nine times
greater than a trained humanathlete.
It can lift over 1,800 poundsand has a bite force of over
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1,300 PSI.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Durability.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Hang on.
Let me finish the answerDurability.
Gorillas have thick muscles,dense bones and an insane pain
threshold.
Blunt force doesn't phase themlike it would a human Speed and
aggression.
It can charge at 20 to 25 milesper hour, tear limbs and climb
with ease.
It fights to kill, not just tosubdue and tactics.
(01:24):
A hundred men can't all attackat once.
In a tight space they'rebottlenecked, and in an open
space they scatter or get pickedoff, unless the men are trained
, armed or tacticallycoordinated like a military unit
, and even then it's risky.
The gorilla's raw physicalsuperiority means it would
likely tear through the crowduntil it's overwhelmed by sheer
exhaustion or injury, if at all.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So Is that the end?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's the end.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Okay, tj, do you want to go first?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yes.
What would we like to clarify?
Does the gorilla have infinitestamina?
No, have you seen gorillasfight?
It says it only lasts for likea minute maybe, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So let's ask yeah, would.
Would the gorilla's lowendurance?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, why don't we confirm that?
First Ask how long could agorilla fight with sustained
strength.
Is that a good question, TJ?
I think so.
How long could a gorilla fightwith sustained strength?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
With sustained strength.
Okay, sure Chow.
Gpt says A silverback gorillacan fight with sustained
explosive strength for about oneto two minutes, maybe slightly
longer if it's highly agitatedor defending its troop.
That might not sound long, butduring that time it could easily
maim or kill multiple opponents.
Here's the breakdown.
Muscle type gorillas have a lotof fast twitch muscle fibers.
(02:36):
Great for bursts of power, notendurance.
Cardiovascular limitations.
Like most great apes, gorillasare not built for long chases or
prolonged combat.
They tire quickly after intenseeffort.
Behaviorally, in the wildgorilla fights rarely last more
than a few seconds to a minute.
They usually end in bluffcharges or quick, brutal
exchanges.
That said, even tired quote, agorilla is still stronger than
(03:01):
any human and can lash out ifcornered or provoked.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So there's something that we need to clarify.
With chat GPT, I don't think itunderstands that we're talking
about 100 men at the same time,not one after the other after
the other.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yes, but it said in an earlier answer.
It said 100 men can't allattack at once.
In a tight space theybottleneck, and in an open space
they scatter or get picked off.
Reminder that it can charge 20to 25 miles an hour real quick,
right.
So it can charge through eightmen at one time with little
exhaustion there and that's justrunning.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
That's not even doing anything which is why I said it
would easily start decimatingin the first minute to two
minutes.
It would decimate that hundred.
It would drop down to 90.
We could drop down to 80, noproblem.
However, after that period,once it charges in and men flank
it, now how could that gorillacontinue to fight?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
we ask chat gtp this how many men would it take to
hold down a gorilla's?
And what I'm saying no, no, no,no, no no.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
What I want to ask is I want to ask a continuation of
its previous answer.
So would your answer bedifferent if 20 men flanked the
gorilla from behind as it wasattacking to hold it down?
I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Okay, just ask it.
I think a better question.
No, just ask it my question.
No, how many men would it takeYou're fucking up the To hold
down a gorilla's arm?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
No, While it's attacking, see, because we
already established that it's aminute to two minutes.
It's exhausting.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
This is how we find out how many men would it take
to hold down a gorilla's arm.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
But we're not talking about.
While it's fresh we're talkingabout, it's already begun its
attack.
It decimates 20 men, no problem, right, do you think it?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
would kill in two minutes.
We could say 30 dudes.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So I'm asking ChatGPT how many men do you think it
would kill in two minutes, intwo minutes of all outrage?
A silverback gorilla couldlikely severely injure or kill
15 to 30 unarmed men maybe more30 men.
Depending on the environmentand how the men approach.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Okay, so you have 70 men taking on an exhausted
gorilla.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Here's how the estimate breaks down One hit
potential A gorilla could knocka man out or kill him with a
single punch, bite or throw.
Limbs could be broken or skullsfractured.
Instantly Attack speedConservatively if it lands a
devastating hit every 3 to fiveseconds.
That's 12 to 14 men every 12 to40 men every two minutes.
Uh, area control in a tightgroup it could grab, toss, bite
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and stomp rapidly if they swarmhim poorly.
Area control in a tight groupit could grab, toss, bite and
stop, stomp rapidly.
If they swarm him poorly, hecould take out more before
tiring Caveat.
If the men coordinate,sacrifice some to distract and
use improvised tools and useimprovised tools, the number
goes down.
(05:51):
But if they panic or charge inwaves, the gorilla will
absolutely paint the arena red.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Okay, but you didn't ask the question that I wanted
to ask what did you want to ask?
I want to ask what are thechances?
How likely would the gorilla'svictory be if 20 men flanked
behind it to hold it down afterit's already exhausted, after it
killed the first 30?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
How likely would the gorilla's victory be if 20 men
flanked it from behind?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And held it down.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
After Whilst tired From behind and held it down
whilst being exhausted.
Sure Okay, From killing thefirst 30 men.
No 100 gorillas versus 20 men.
If 20 men flanked and swarmed asilverback gorilla from behind
after it had already killed 30men and was physically exhausted
, its chances of victory drop.
But it's still not guaranteedthe men win.
(06:42):
Here's the breakdown Factorsfavoring the men Fatigue After
two minutes of berserk fighting.
The gorilla would besignificantly winded.
Its burst of power would slowand reaction time might drop.
Surprise flank A winded Itsburst of power would slow and
reaction time might drop.
Surprise flank.
A coordinated attack frombehind exploits its blind spot
and reduces its ability todefend effectively.
Weight and numbers 20 adult menaverage 150 to 200 pounds.
(07:02):
Each Adds up to 3,000 to 4,000pounds.
That could be enough to pin thegorilla temporarily.
But problems arise.
That's in bold Holding.
It is another story.
Holding down a 400 to 500 poundbeast with the strength of
eight nfl linemen isn't easy.
It can still twist, bite andthrow bodies.
Injuries pile up, even tired.
It could snap limbs and crushwind pipes.
(07:23):
Of those on top, fear factorthere are unarmed, untrained men
.
Panic and hesitation can turn acoordinated pin into a
bloodbath.
The verdict chances of gorillavictory 30 to 50%.
No, that's higher than Ithought.
If even a few men slip or losegrip, it could break free and
resume carnage.
Chances of human victory 50 to70%, but at severe cost multiple
(07:44):
deaths and injuries, even insuccess.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
That's interesting.
That's higher than I would havethought.
My next question would be ifthe men are capable of surviving
after seven minutes ofsustained grappling.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
You gotta remember well, I think the better
question is what would mensurvive for seven minutes?
Or does it even think that mencould survive for seven minutes?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
well we've.
I think at this point we'vegotten well past.
We were at a minute well, it'salready wiped.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
30 are wiped in the first two minutes, probably
injured because they were theones pinning, trying and what,
what I, what I?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
was actually what I was hoping to accomplish, in
that we're saying pinning, butwhat I was hoping to accomplish
is grabbing its arms and holdingit, because if it's you or I tj
on the front, what are yougonna go for on that gorilla?
Nuts or that's exactly right.
Nuts, throat, eyes.
You're not going for heavilyguarded areas.
(08:37):
You're not going to jump on itsarms and flail you're.
You're going for its wind pipe,you're going for its nuts.
You're going for its, its softtissue femoral artery.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I need to survive.
I'm grabbing the arms off theground from the 30 men and I'm
just shoving it down his throat.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Just chuck it.
I asked how many men would ittake to hold down an exhausted
gorilla?
It said to physically hold downan exhausted gorilla silverback
gorilla you'd likely need atleast 20 to 30 strong,
coordinated adult men, and eventhen it's a high-risk struggle.
Here's why Gorilla specs, evenexhausted, weigh 400 to 500
(09:16):
pounds of solid muscle, canstill bench the equivalent of
1,800 pounds.
Even fatigued, its muscles aredenser and more explosive than a
human's.
A tired gorilla is stillstronger than 99% of men's flesh
.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
He is glazing this fucking gorilla.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
It really is, because it's like we're we're not
talking about one man at a timeand it keeps putting it.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Human effort needed.
It is not doing that.
Human effort needed.
Four to six to pin limbs, twoplus per limb, ideally.
Now here's what I want toconsider Two plus per, I said 20
.
Four to six to pin limbs here's, and that's just each limb.
Here's my thought.
Where are those men standing?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Behind it.
Behind it, you're bringing itsarms down on top of you.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Two to four, to control the head and torso,
minimizing bites and thrashing.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Right, we have 70.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Five to 10 more to back up when the first group
gets injured or overpowered.
That's assuming these are fit,coordinated, unarmed men with no
restraints or tools.
Realistically, if they're nottrained and don't act in sync,
even 30 might fail.
If they use tools, nets, ropes,shields, the number drops.
If the gorilla has zero fightleft and is just struggling
(10:28):
reflexively, maybe 12 to 15strong men could restrain it
safely mean we're talking about70 but so here's my question yes
, 70 men.
If you just imagine 70 againstone, if you just imagine as
numbers, sure thinkrealistically.
Where are these men standing?
How are they holding it down?
How are 70 men?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
that's a lot of people no, I'm not talking about
70 men holding it down I said20 men, that's five per limb
okay, hold on and a silverbackgorilla is freaking huge let's
see how big a silverback gorillaarm is oh it says, want a
visual diagram or tier list ofhuman versus visual diagram you
can't get that many people inthat small an area.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
We're not talking about necessarily a small area
no, but that's what I imaginedwe said, if they walked into, if
the gorilla came into a village?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
no, but how long is the silverback?
And then, to finish it, ongoogle it says gorilla wiener
what kind of stuff do you lookup?
No, it just like filled it in.
This is like a common thingyou're you ready you're ready,
you're ready, you ready, yeah, I.
I need your guys's guesses.
How long is the silverbackwiener?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
oh, oh.
How long is the oscar meyer?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'm gonna say very hopeful 12 eric it's a it's a 12
incher man, I feel like thatshit can get at least to like 18
inches.
All right, you ready yeah doyou see buffy's good?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
news we're competing with gorillas.
They only got a 1.1.
What the fuck?
You are lying A around threecentimeters.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What the hell they have the smallest phallus of all
apes, bitch.
How do they make babies?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You know what I'm going to start saying.
I'm going to start saying I'mhung like a silverback gorilla
and see who knows.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
All right.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I will admit, men have a better chance than I
thought they did.
But I think if you add I don'tknow I think if you watch 30 men
be decimated in less than twominutes.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But you're to talk You're not talking about.
This is a run and get away typeof situation.
What?
Either you or the gorilla aregoing down 100 men or it's going
to get through the 100 men andtake out all of your women and
children.
You are all that stands in theway.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I think you overestimate me.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
You are your family's survival.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I think you overestimate me.
You are your family's survival.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I think you overestimate me.
No, not me.
I'll gladly go.
My problem is is I wouldprobably be the first wave.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah, but we're not talking about one man, we're
talking about 100 men.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm saying I would probably be the first wave.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, I don't know If we're talking completely
bloodlusted dudes.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Wait a minute, buffy Buffy.
What dudes?
Wait a minute, buffy buffy.
What are you talking about?
You talking about my uh, hunglike a silverback gorilla
comment?
Or are you talking about the uh, the way that most men will
stand and guard their familyfrom a silverback gorilla?
I need to know.
She said same way most men do.
That could go either way.
Either she heard my comment onstanding in the way of my family
protecting them from thegorilla, or I'm hung like a
(13:34):
silverback gorilla.
I got to add something to theside of my life.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I got to add a photo.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
She was talking about the three centimeter.
That's comedy, buffy.
Thank you and welcome back.
Love to see you, love to seethe regulars.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
I asked Chachi Petit so re-evaluate what are the odds
that men win.
It gives a couple of things,but final verdict If the men are
strong, brave and act inperfect unison, they'll likely
win, but at the cost of seriousinjuries and possibly a few
deaths if they fumble.
The gorilla makes a terrifyingcomeback, wow.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I mean it's not as cut and dry.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I think in a real world situation, men lose
Without tools, If tools areadded, which is what mankind is
known for.
If tools are added, we win 100%of the time.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
But I'm with TJ.
The second arms or legs are onthe floor.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't think people are going to have that same.
I would I don't know, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
You got two out of three in this Discord who would
do the same exact thing.
Tj you would.
You say you would Panic chainreaction.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
This is odds of the gorilla.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Screams, blood and fear could disrupt the group's
hold, especially if bites orlimbs break.
If I'm standing, if I'mstanding in the way of my wife
and my two babies getting mauledby a silverback gorilla, I'm
not just saying that I wouldgrab limbs off the ground.
I'm telling you I would.
I would bite.
It's three centimeters off,with no shame.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Remember the gorilla will use to the tools also, it
would, it would I think odds area hundred men and this is
talking about a hundred strong,brave, imperfect unison men
could win, and that's not even ahundred percent what are you
doing, tj, look at the line.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
What did you do?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
What did you do?
Oh my, god Alright.
This is my least favorite.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That didn't take much neck rig to cover it up.
Oh, my goodness gracious, theduck in the house.
Thank you, you.
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