June 20, 2025 • 57 mins
The iconic survival tale Cast Away takes center stage as TJ, Alex, and Eric dissect Tom Hanks' four-year island adventure with unflinching honesty and plenty of laughs. What would you do if stranded alone with nothing but FedEx packages and a volleyball for company?
Our hosts immediately tackle the film's most controversial moment - Chuck's reluctance to open the washed-up packages. "There's no laws here," Alex declares, explaining why he'd rip them open immediately rather than preserving them for future delivery. This spirals into a fascinating analysis of survival priorities, with everyone agreeing Chuck waited far too long to make fire - a critical mistake when an early signal could have meant rescue.
The psychological aspects of isolation become the conversation's emotional core. Wilson, the blood-stained volleyball companion, represents what Eric calls "psychological anchors" - the lifelines that kept Chuck's sanity intact through four years of solitude. The hosts candidly wonder if they could withstand such extreme isolation without breaking down completely.
From Chuck's gruesome self-dentistry with an ice skate (which sends Eric fleeing from the discussion) to his resourceful tool-making and water collection systems, the hosts evaluate each survival decision with a blend of practical knowledge and humor. They share their own wilderness experience while planning a hypothetical camping trip to test their survival skills against nature's challenges - though perhaps with fewer coconuts falling dangerously close to their heads.
Whether you're a longtime fan of the film or discovering it for the first time, this episode offers fresh perspectives on what it truly takes to survive when stripped of everything except your will to live. Follow us on all social platforms at Will You Survive The Podcast and join the conversation about what you'd do to survive being Cast Away.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hello survivors and welcome back to another episode
of Will you Survive.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Podcast, and today we are talking about the movie
Cast Away.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
For a brief second.
I thought you were waiting forus to finish your sentence.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I am TJ.
I am joined here by my twoco-hosts.
We've got alex that's me andwe've got eric, that's me,
eric's the bald one.
Um, so yeah, guys, uh, castaway.
It's a, it's a, it's a reallygood movie um eric had never
seen it before I'd never seen itbefore, and you know, just in
case you guys haven't seen itbefore.
(01:03):
I'm gonna have have Alex readout the synopsis.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
All right, Forgive me here, because this one is just
like the movie a lengthydescription.
Memphis-based FedEx operationsexecutive Chuck Noland and grad
student Kelly Frears have longdated and lived together and,
despite each being the love ofeach other's life, have not
gotten married because of theirrespective busy schedules,
especially Chuck's, as he ismore often on business trips
(01:28):
than he is at home.
That marital status changeswhen, on Christmas Day 1995, as
Chuck is rushing off to catchyet another FedEx plane for a
business trip, he gives Kelly aring.
That flight experiencestechnical difficulties and goes
down somewhere in the SouthPacific In a life raft.
A relatively unharmed Chuckwashes up on shore.
(01:48):
What he will learn is adeserted island.
He unaware what has happened toany of his fellow flight mates
or the plane.
However, several of thepackages on board for delivery
do wash up on shore with him,those packages which he
initially treats with respect.
Chuck realizes that hispriority is survival, which
primarily means food, water,shelter and fire and rescue.
(02:10):
But survival is also anemotional sense.
To fulfill that emotional need,he has an heirloom pocket watch
with Kelly's photo that shegave him as a Christmas present
and eventually, opening theFedEx packages, a Wilson
volleyball on which he paints aface in which he names Wilson.
As time progresses, chuck goesthrough a range of emotions, but
(02:30):
if rescue is ever in the cards,he realizes that he has to find
a way to get off the island,which is seemingly impossible.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That was quite a description.
Tell me about it.
It straight up told the entiremovie.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Let's start this off with what do you think of the
movie and would you have doneanything differently?
Oh, I've got notes.
You've got notes, I've gotnotes.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
First thing I would like to say respect for packages
immediately out the window.
First of all, there's no lawshere.
I don't give a shit.
Second of all, why collect thepackages if you're not going to
open them right away?
There's so much there could.
There could be so much usefulstuff in there, and eventually
he opened them, but right away.
There is no part of me that'sever concerned with like well,
(03:16):
they're going to want to deliverthese.
I'm stranded in the middle ofthe ocean on a deserted island.
I don't care, I'm opening them.
I think he waited too long.
Also, he waited till he waitedso long to make fire, and that's
like a night one thing.
But those are my notes.
Those are my big notes rightaway, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I didn't.
I didn't have those issues.
I actually took his reservationof opening the packages as,
i'm'm going to say, a beliefthat he was going to be rescued
quickly.
He was really holding onto ahope that this was not going to
be a long stay.
That was evidenced by the factthat he wrote help on the beach
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quickly.
He was going around collectingthe packages, exploring the
island.
Everything else he did wasreally quite well.
I mean, he went, he surveilledthe island, collected packages.
While he did so and was lookingfor anything useful, made
himself shelter with his raft.
Um, I do think the the funnything that I remember the very
(04:20):
first time I saw this movie, thethumps.
He he expressed my exactthought what the hell is that?
So it was.
It was comforting to find out.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It was just coconuts falling on the ground, but it's
like it was almost rhythmic djalso pointed out, when the
coconut fell in front of him itwas like a foot to his right.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
he was just a foot over one One oh yeah, he would
have been freaking dead movieover Coconuts literally kill
people.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I mean, I think they definitely can.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, one thing I would do is, instead of help on
the sand, I would have wrote SOS.
Eric was like maybe that wouldtake more logs.
I think not.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I feel like it would take less.
I don't think so.
Yeah, I think it would takeless.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I don't think so yeah , I think it would take less um.
I don't know it kind of seemslike to each their own.
But I mean, he had a plan to uhunalive himself.
I I'd say that's pretty uh,accurate uh, except I wouldn't
wait three years well, we don'tknow that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He waited three years to do it.
He did that at some point.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, no, within those three years um, when he
was talking to wilson, when he,like, went to go test it, he
said that was a year ago.
Stop bringing it up.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And it was cut to four years, so it was three
years into it.
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You're right, which he held on for a minute.
Yeah, so here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think how do I word this?
I think, survival wise, theisland was actually really nice,
yep, and provided a lot andlevel wise, the island was
actually really nice andprovided a lot, and I think I
think I could actually survivethat.
I think I could figure it outthe way that, the same way that
he did.
However, I don't know if mypsyche could survive four years
stuck on an island.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I think I would melt down.
Yeah, he pretty much had likeunlimited water so you didn't
really have to worry about waterlike that.
He was having a tough timeopening those coconutsuts which,
like, they're not that hard toopen okay, there there are two
types.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Number one he got really freaking lucky with that.
Uh, because you have the greencoconuts and you have the brown
coconuts, the brown coconutsdon't drink the milk, it will
actually dehydrate you.
It works as a diuretic, but theum, the green coconut, the, the
outer shell, is really fibrous,so it would be hard.
You can make stuff.
You can make fire.
(06:30):
You can uh you can probablygrate it into
Speaker 2 (06:33):
it is what he used, wasn't it?
I don't think it's long enoughto I, because I thought about
that too, about could you use itfor rope, but it none of it's
long enough to really well, Idon't know, but you can bind it
together.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Being that I am a dad of two young children and I
have watched Moana about abillion times.
They make nets from the fiber.
The water is sweet inside.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You can use the leaves to build fire.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I'm quoting the song out of the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Nobody knows that, but anybody who watches.
Yeah, I don't know that.
You suck, dude, you suck.
Don't take this away from mykids.
Quoted Lilo and Stitch.
See, it's more topical.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Bro.
We were watching Lilo andStitch all week.
I got my daughter into it onWednesday.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know she's so funny, she started crying.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I don't want to watch this.
And like within three minutes,was sitting and is that an alien
?
Is this on earth?
It's a cool movie?
What?
Why is he gray like?
And then, all of a sudden, nowtoday, tonight, we were like,
hey, we're gonna watch anothermovie.
And she was like we can watchlilo and stitch I uh, she's so
funny.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
She came into my room and she was uh, she was asking
me if I knew about, uh, lilo andher friend, and I was.
I was like oh, stitch, and shewas like yeah, and I was like
you mean her friend, and I waslike oh, stitch, and she was
like yeah, and I was like youmean Experiment 626?
And she was like yeah, how the?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
hell, do you know that?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And she was like they said this weird word a lot.
I was like Ohana, ohana meansfamily and she's like yeah, it's
a great movie.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Gotta say say love this movie.
I've been watching this moviesince it came out.
I remember being like six I'mshocked.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I've never seen this movie before.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
There is something I got out of it something I got
out of it new this time that Ididn't quite get.
I don't know if I got it thefirst time I watched it.
I don't think so, because itseemed like it was new
information to me.
The pilots were talking tothemselves.
They were talking to each otherabout how off course they were.
Now maybe I just missed theinformation, but they explained
(08:40):
to you why he was never evenremotely close to being found.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, they were looking 200 miles away from
where they were trying to goaround the storm and that, well,
you're right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And they had lost communication.
They were not communicatingwith any tower anywhere or any
other aircraft, and so nobodywould know where they were when
they went down.
One of the other things that Ithought was really kind of.
It was very dramatic, very coolto see.
A lot of interesting stuffhappened there.
(09:16):
But when that plane crashed andthe wing starts going under,
the turbine.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It wouldn't have been running like that.
I thought that was so cool.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It wouldn't have been running like that.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I thought it was so cool.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It looked really awesome.
That was a great scene.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, it's just a little bit of suspense.
Is he going to get chopped upor something?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Kind of War of the Worlds-esque.
You know it was.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The sound effects right there were so freaking
good.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It was a great scene as far as effects go.
You gotta, you gotta give themcredit for when the plane goes
under and he's under with it,and then he opens up the?
Uh the raft and it pulls him upand you see the plane going
down the?
Uh, the lights of thingssparking still and arcing and
going off and he's gettingcalled up.
Oh, that's, that's veryinteresting.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I think Eric said that he didn't notice that when
he was like inflating it and hewas underwater, the thing that
got snagged was all the supplies.
Oh, it got snagged and pulledunder like the orange thing that
was full of like supplies andshit.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
That's what jacked him up.
So he yeah, flares fires him up.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So he, yeah, flares fire fighters, whatever the fuck
dang.
Yeah, if he, if that didn'thappen, he would have been even
more well off than he was.
Um, you know which?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
makes sense that that's very life of pie, because
the raft does come with all ofthat stuff attached to it, so he
had to jettison that to get outof the plane.
Yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And then, um, also, he had a sw Swiss Army knife on
his keys that he had to giveback to his girl.
That would have been nice tohave.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, before he got on the plane.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, what I thought so kind of skipping really quick
towards the end when he getsback to civilization.
I found it very funny and kindof eye-opening when he was
walking around just grabbing allthe simple conveniences of
civilization.
Like a lighter and a pocketknife and just all these things
(11:14):
that he's like.
I had to fight for my life toget these things.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh yeah, and they're fucking assholes too.
What about?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
the flashlight.
Yeah, the flashlight.
There's a lot that I think iton so do we think once the the
flashlight ran out of battery,do we think he could have found
a way to get the glass out anduse that to start a fire with
the?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
definitely, most definitely.
Yeah, because it's a curvedpiece of glass.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So much easier than what he was trying to do, which
he got it eventually, but thatwould be so easy to do.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, this is a great opportunity to bring up the bow
drill.
So what he was doing was justhe was using his hands.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And it was fucking his hands up.
But there's a better way to doit.
And he had the string from theskates.
He could have used that andlike a bendy piece of wood, like
a stick or whatever, and hecould have put it around,
wrapped it and then use like asawing motion with like a rock
on top of the other stick that'sdoing the drilling, and just do
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that back and forth so itdoesn't cook your hands.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Now I wonder if we all agree with this.
You already said it he waitedfar too long, far longer than
necessary to make the fire, yeahyeah, um, now he did prioritize
covering himself, it was.
It was janky, it was just theraft kind of lifted up on a but
even then, like why?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
why not get like a couple sticks with palm leaves
attached to them to put over you?
I mean in the raft like I don'tknow.
I there's just I feel like hereally didn't do anything, but
we could chalk it up to just theshock of yeah, I also think
that he was gonna get rescued.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I think he he thought he was gonna get rescued, oh
yeah definitely because he saw aboat out in the distance.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So clearly boats go through there, I wonder how many
he's seen over the cut if onlyhe had his flares.
Huh yeah, if he had his flaresor even like if he just had his
fire going you know, palm frondslike he was doing like when he
got it lit.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Exactly, fire should have been one of the first
priorities for him.
It drives me crazy that hewaited to like what was.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It was like night three before he decided to make
a fire so here's a a good timeto talk about something like
this, uh, without the necessityof risking burning down the
entire island, uh, what youcould do in that situation right
, but.
But let's just say you knowforest fires move quickly, but
most of that was wet.
(13:43):
So what you could do is you geta lot of wet wood, you build a
hot, hot, hot fire and then youstart throwing wet wood on it.
You know what you get, rightsteam you get dry wood, you get
a lot of smoke white smoke, andif you can get white smoke in
the air, you're gonna get goingto look which the island that
(14:04):
he's on is right next to Fiji.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I looked it up.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Did you really?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, I looked at the island.
I'd seen pictures of it.
It's a real island.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So if he would have started burning huge quantities
of wet wood, you get largeamounts of smoke in the air.
So basically, smoke comes whenthe fire's not burning hot
enough.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You get less smoke when you get a hotter fire
because it's burning more of the, Because the particles are
going up in the air.
But the hotter it is, the lessparticles are Right.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So you can do this with all of that wet wood, and
he had plenty of wood.
It seemed like that island justreplenished itself over and
over again yeah, that's what Iwas saying, like the island was
was very nice to him, dude Ithink you definitely had a whole
house by fucking four years.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, honestly, oh hell yeah with what I saw that
he had.
I he was living very minimalist, but I I think he took the cave
as like natural shelter, so noneed to build a house, you know
yeah which I agree, I the cavewas.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I would have still pimped the cave out.
Awesome, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'd have pimped the cave out.
Yeah, Fucking Elisa.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I'd have tried to make torches that's not wet all
this time.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
A cot.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, something.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
A cot, I would have been sleeping off of the ground.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But that's also a way he yeah, well, once he, once he
started making the fire, thenhe had the crabs yeah, he was, I
think really good yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So I do want to give a shout out because nerdy vet
says uh, very accurateinformation.
Black smoke means man-madestuff is on fire.
White smoke is natural stuff ison fire.
That's absolutely true.
The white smoke means thatthere's water vapor right, it's
water vapor, or steam, as it'suh, burning up, so it's
typically organic materials,whereas black smoke often means
(15:57):
it's petroleum, rubber,synthetic substances that are
burning and it's containing sootand usually toxic chemicals
that you don't want to breathe.
Now, white smoke could alsomean that you're putting out
that black smoke or that fire ofthe materials.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
So it doesn't always mean that, but generally
speaking, Speaking of unnaturalthings, one thing I did bring up
for like the 20 minutes.
Eric was with me while I waswatching it.
There's no trash on the beach.
The only piece of trash we seefloat up is the fucking porta
potty.
Four years later, but there'sdefinitely like a lot of trash
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on beaches.
I watch a dude on a freakingYouTube and literally that's how
he survives.
He's like I'm going out threedays, don't got nothing with me
other than a knife, and he findslike bottles and freaking
broken lighters and stuff thathe can use to now start fire.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I fully agree that generally that's what that means
.
But you can also make theargument that the reason why
nobody found the island he wason is because no currents travel
that way in in the ocean, thereare areas, and I'd have to look
up the name again.
There are areas that are calledit's a desert, so there's no
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current, there's no wildlife,there's no um, there's no
plankton, no seaweed, sonothing's there.
and if you go there with a no,no, well, he, he could be
surrounded by something likethat because there was a reason
why he had such good, abundantlife.
Uh, there was an ecosystemsurrounding that island, but
perhaps there was no other thanthe waves crashing on the beach.
(17:36):
There was no current leadingthings to him, and I'd also I'd
also speculate that that was thecase because of how hard it was
for him once he got past thereef, uh, the outer shore break,
once he got out past that it.
It wasn't like the, and maybethey just didn't want to show us
something like this, but itwasn't like he had, um, abundant
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help with the currents.
Not for a while, because hewasn't like hauling balls, you
know, he had that little sail up, which that's.
That's good, that's what youneed.
But uh, it didn't show untilthe storm came up, the first
storm, when I was actually happyto see that storm because that
(18:19):
started bringing water.
But to get back on the island,some of the things that I'd like
to point out that he did wasreally good was prioritizing
water.
He learned how to store it.
Learn is kind of a harsh way tosay it, but he figured out
rather quickly I have to storethis right.
Even though he had abundantcoconuts, he started storing his
water.
Of course, I think we all agreethat he waited way too long to
(18:40):
start a fire.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, yeah, it was like four days he was sleeping
out in the freaking, just coldyeah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, which is just bizarre because you sleep on the
floor.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
typically after a few hours it's sucking body heat
from you I would be so coldthat's all I was thinking about,
honestly this whole movie, isthat I'm such a cold person.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Naturally I I would not be able to and I only
believe that from you, tj myself, are not going to be cold on
this.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I guarantee you, it was tropical fucking boiling, I
guarantee you which is why Ikind of give some play.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You and I might have done the exact same thing,
because we'd be burning in thesunlight all day long.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Dig a little trench in the sand and lay in that and
let it cool you off except if itwas me and you, we'd be fine
from the sun, really, and theneric, he'd be getting sunburned
well, that's, true I I do notget sunburned no really no, I've
.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I've gotten a sunburn like once in my entire life but
you're so pasty, I know he's sowhite.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Okay, actually you want to see something crazy I
noticed this earlier today lookat how farmer tan I mean now it
kind of looks the same, but lookhow white my arm is yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You can really tell it also on my neck and my my
like forearms are way.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He's showing you can't really see it, but they
are darker than the frickingyeah.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's too blue, but it kind of looks like it's the
shadow, but this is juststraight up a different color
than my chest.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So shadow, but this is just straight up a different
color than my chest.
So, um, no, I see that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted tobring up uh rip to the outdoor
boys youtube channel.
Uh, by the way, oh yeah, Imeant to say that is uh, I don't
mind being cold, I don't mindsleeping on the floor and I
don't mind being hungry, but Ionly do one of those at once.
Yep, and I think that's reallygood advice that was one of my
(20:33):
favorite episodes yeah, so you,you know, take care of your shit
like it's I would have done.
I built a fire, or at leaststarted trying immediately, you
know somewhat.
I needed somewhat of likeshelter because, like they're
not, if you still have hope thatthey're gonna find you dog,
they're not gonna find you indog.
They're not going to find youin two hours.
It's going to be a minute.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But now, when he saw the boat that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Right away.
I'm thinking I'm in survivalmode.
I'm opening up all thosepackages right away.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
There's no part of me that's like they'll be here in
an hour.
Do they find them?
They're going to be.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Where's Marge's package?
I don't know Exactly.
There's no laws here.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
What are we worried about?
Just open them, the plane crash.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It was open in the plane crash.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, there's literally no part of me at all
that would not open thosepackages immediately.
Yeah, I would.
Also, I'm not going to lie.
If I land on an island, I amlooking for a cave.
I would be looking pretty soonafter making a fire.
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I wouldn't be looking for a cave right off the bat.
You want to make sure thatthere's no wild boar on the
island.
They will kill a man.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I know They'll kill me.
I could take at least four.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Four.
Come on now, you could take onefor sure.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I four.
Come on now, you can take onefor sure.
Take at least two and a half.
It might gore you, but in thissituation I I would be looking
for, uh, a cave it was verybarren I would be in like
immediately, except like crabsimmediate survival mode.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know like scavenge everything, fucking.
You know like when dude's bodywashed up, I'm taking his
clothes, not just his shoes, I'mtaking everything off that man.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
That fabric is useful .
Speaker 1 (22:14):
He didn't even use his shoes because he was like,
oh, they're too small he did, hecut the soul, he cut the toe
off oh, I didn't realize that Imean, eventually they probably
wore the fuck out because he wasbarefoot by the but yeah, no,
I'm going in all everythingthat's all useful stuff, yep,
I'll bury him.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Still, he's getting buried naked though yeah, I
would take the clothes, I meanjust to cut up the pants or and
like cut up the stuff to use itfor other things if needed.
Now you know, real, real, dark,real quick, real dark, real
quick.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You guys have both said and I agree make some
fishing line and then use partsof him to catch fish oh, oh, my
God, it's true.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's so gross, but it's true.
It's so gross, but like yougotta do what you gotta do, bro,
you know, and frankly speaking,I think the point was made too,
because wasn't there crabs onthe?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
body.
Josh, thanks for the it's corn.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And the hurt me there wasn't.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I don't think so.
I thought there was crabsnearby the body when he went and
got it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Because that's what they would eat.
Coconut crabs ate.
Amelia Earhart, that is atheory.
That's one of the theories,yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Coconut crabs are insane.
No crab needs to be that big.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Isn't that disgusting ?
That is horrifying.
He really thought he could justeat a crab, just raw, though.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Wasn't that nuts yeah .
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But that's why I was like, when he caught it, I was
like make a fire.
And then he like pulled the armapart and was watching all the
goo and I'm like make a fire.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, it's such an easy solution, it's right there
and then, to bring up that endbit again, when he got back they
gave the dude who was trappedon an island crab fucking
seafood, when that's all he waseating.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It was very interesting to me sushi and crab
.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's what they gave this man yep what was you know?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
give me a hamburger his service.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, for real, those were all his favorite foods
before this event.
It would have been nice to havebeen like hey, what, what do
you want to eat?
Man, you've had've had what.
What have you been eating onthat island?
Crab fish.
Yeah, what do you want to eat?
We're going to get you anythingyou want, because I'm with you
guys.
I'd be like fucking barbecueribs, beef ribs, a hamburger.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I will say there's got to be a very massive
difference between crabs caughton an island, cooked on a fire,
versus steamed alaskan king crabking crab like good with butter
sauce.
I think that's very different.
It might be, but I, but Iunderstand what you mean like I
don't want to eat that I what Iwould want.
(24:43):
I'm like I would be like ironman coming out of the cave.
I want a good, old-fashionedamerican cheeseburger.
Yeah, that's what I want yeah,yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah.
Yeah, no, definitely so what doyou think about his, his tool
making?
I mean, he used those iceskates.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Those saved his life, dude.
Yeah, if he didn't get those,he was cooked.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Now, as far as saving his life, how important do you
think that that was for him toknock his own tooth out?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I that was pretty nuts right oh it's either like
it fucking rots out his face, orhe knocks it out and maybe it
gets infected.
I would rather just knock itout.
You know that's okay, Icouldn't I I would rather just
keep gargling salt water likeyou got right, because you saw
he had abundant salt water allaround I think, I think I have
(25:28):
some sort of maybe not a phobia,but I have something with with
teeth, because I hate it so much.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Okay, you want a teeth story.
I got a teeth story.
No, don't, I'm not kidding, Iwill stop listening.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So when I was a kid, I had cavities in my teeth.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I genuinely did.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And they put, like the silver caps on them right,
it makes me want to faint, andit was my whole bottom row and
my whole top row on both sides,and some of them fell out
normally because they were on mybaby teeth, but there were some
of them that were kind of juststuck in there and they were
small enough that they could fitinto a tab of a Coke can.
(26:06):
Like one of these, you know,and I put it in there.
Nope, I don't like that and Ijust went and ripped it out did.
I had to do that a couple timesyou guess what man?
I got that tooth fairy money.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You are wrong I'm not a bitch when it comes to pain,
really I, I can't, I, I'm notfor those who can't see eric
took off his headphones andrefused to listen to how I
ripped my tooth out when I was akid.
Stop the pain doesn't bother me.
It's not the pain, it's theteeth.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I get it.
It's like rubbing styrofoamtogether or like nails on a
chalkboard type feeling.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
it's worse than that in my opinion, that's a great
example, because that's how Ifelt when I heard the ice skate
touch his tooth.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Oh yeah, dude, it just sent shit all over my spine
.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I couldn't watch that scene.
It made me want to faint.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Oh shit, but like dude, you got to do what you got
to do.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
That is true.
I couldn't do it that that istrue.
I couldn't do it.
I wouldn't be able to do it.
I think uh nerdy says in thechat and I think he's right the
abscess would have eventuallycaused him, uh, caused his, his
demise yeah, I couldn't do it,so you it's either that or you
know I would rather not die afucking jaw rotting out I'm not
(27:28):
kidding.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
this movie just made me realize I just need to book a
dentist appointment because Ican never do this, ever, ever so
guys.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
So I told Eric this Alex, did you know that there's
a company called Do Castaway,that you can pay them and they
will drop you off on an islandto do castaway Shit?
We've got to do castaway dude.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Do they give you a volleyball?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
they do not, but we can bring our own volleyball
that's bullshit.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Do they sprinkle fedex packages around?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I mean you guys can get uh soccer balls, because
that's more your people's thing.
I'll get a uh basketball.
Geez, look at this guy that'sfunny.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Spalding, that's good , that's good spalding wait a
minute.
They would all be spalding,wouldn't they?
That's funny, aren't soccerballs also spalding.
I think a minute they would allbe Spalding wouldn't they?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's funny.
Aren't soccer balls also,spalding?
I think they make.
I think Wilson also makesbasketballs and soccer balls and
I think Spalding.
Jose, jose I'm going to look upSpalding.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, no, no, no, no, mi amigo Spalding this no, no,
no, no, mi amigo.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Spalding oh yeah, they make volleyball, soccer
balls.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So what do you think about his I'm going to call it
mental stamina?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
It took him about a week before he started talking
to a ball.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I don't blame him.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Was it only a week it was like not that long, because
it was when he was making afire and the.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
He was like three, like three or four days he was
like sleeping with no fire andthen, like it was that next day
it was like a week before helike cut himself and then
grabbed the ball and then threwit I have made the face it was
like a week.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That reaction when he made the fire, that is the
reaction of any male.
I agree.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Who makes a fire?
I completely agree 100.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I was like I feel that on a primal level, that is
exactly how I would react.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I'd be doing all that too there's another reaction
that he did that I completelyunderstood and I think every
male would understand it?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Is it when he cut his hand?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
No, oh, I got that one.
I think it was when he wasplanning his escape, planning
leaving and counting the rope.
We just don't have enough.
We're going to have to findmore rope.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I know where there's 30 feet of extra rope.
I know.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I'm not going to go up there.
I'm not going to go up there,I'm not gonna go up there.
And then he goes up there.
Cuts to him up there alreadywhich, because I think every guy
has been in that situationwhere no, I'm not going to do
this.
I'm not gonna do it and youknow you have to, you know.
You know there's no otheroption.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You're going to do it so then you gotta, you gotta do
it, or else you're just cooked.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
No, I think I think the one I really understood,
like when he was trying to makethe fire and his hand slipped
and he cut it open on the on thestick and he fucking lost it
yeah I get that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
He was he was fucking himself up in them early days.
He, he sliced his leg open.
He busted his tooth out.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
After the coral stabbing into his leg.
And then he gets back and he'strying to make a fire and he
cuts his hand open.
That frustration, oh, I feltthat where I'm at work and I'm
already irritated about how muchI have left to do.
And then I cut my hand on adoor and I'm like work, and I'm
already irritated about how muchI have left to do.
And then I cut my hand on adoor and I'm like, oh okay.
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And then I keep going and I jam,I slam my finger into something
and I'm like I'm gonna fuckinglose it.
I was cleaning the tops ofcrates and they have these bolts
that stick out and I was likecutting up my cuticles.
All over time I'd hit it.
I was just at one point Istraight up slammed my fist
frustrated I slammed my fist onthe top of the crate and I'm
(31:18):
like I'm gonna fucking lose mymind right now if I cut my
finger one more time yeah, sothere were a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I think he used a couple of things as anchors.
One was the locket, one was wasWilson Um?
One was counting the days.
He actually started marking allof the days on the cave wall,
remember.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, you kind of going off of that.
Something that I found reallyinteresting is that I am a.
I am the type of person to.
This might make me sound crazy,but I'm the type of person to
kind of talk to myself at times.
Um, not this might make mesound crazy, but I'm the type of
person to kind of talk tomyself at times, not in like a
crazy way, but in like athinking out loud kind of way.
I hope not a crazy way, but Idon't.
(31:58):
I think it would be really easyto fall into silence on the
island and I think that's howWilson kind of helped was to
make him talk, talk, um.
but I found it interesting whenhe was like doing math and
counting and keeping that kindof civilized part of his brain
(32:18):
active and working right, um, bylike counting how many sticks
he was going to need, how muchrope he was going to need.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Doing all that math in his head, he was talking to
himself and also wilson workingit all out, and so I definitely
think that was a big part of it.
The the other thing don't worryabout it, because anybody who's
actually crazy doesn't knowthat they're crazy.
What wait?
Who said that?
Shut?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
up fucking.
Uh, I did think it was very, umvery smart of him.
There's that little piece oflight that crept through into
the cave ah, yeah he, he used tomark out months, so if the
light's over here, that meansit's january.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
If it's over here, that's september I did not yeah
wow yeah, it went all the way upthe cave wall this way, then
around and back down the otherway.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
That's very smart.
He was a fucking smart dude, Ithink also at the beginning he
was.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
It showed his like he had awards for like shit, like
that something to do withsailing, I think yeah so, dude,
he was smart, he had, he hadknowledge no, for real dude was
smart, but the thing that uh oneof our our uh tiktok friends in
(33:40):
the chat had said he hadn'tdone a day's work, you know,
meaning he wasn't an outdoorsykind of guy, right, he probably
had no calluses on his handswhen he went on that island.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Which I definitely think.
I'm waiting for my kids to beolder, because one of the things
that I want to start doing withthem is going out camping.
Oh, back in the day, what wedid was backpacking.
You get like emergency rations,that's it Fishing rod, small
amounts of things.
Right, as little as you can,because you got to carry it all,
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and of course, I would have tocarry it all, and then they
would carry their littlebackpacks and you basically just
wear what you wear.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
With their fruit snacks.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
With their fruit snacks.
You know little things right.
You wear what you wear and youhave to do everything right.
Because we do have bears.
So you have to hang your foodup in a tree away from any
branches so that no bears canactually get it.
You have the food downwind ofyou and you have to be aware
that the wind can change on youso you don't want to wind up
(34:44):
being upwind where the bear isgonna not be able to get the
food and then walk into and findyou um found food.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I think, I think we literally need to like
all go camping with like minimalshit, like we get small fishing
rod, a pharaoh rod, a sleepingbag, a tent, a knife.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Guys, we live in 2025 .
Nah, dog.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I want to go out to the middle of the woods and
let's see what we could dowithin like four days.
No definitely.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I always brought emergency rations, like those
crappy, you know those chalkylemon bar things.
I always brought those becauseit's the last thing you're
actually going to want to eat.
You would rather and I thinkmost people who've ever eaten
that kind of crap or mres rightyou have the uh, the beef mac
and cheese, which is probablythe only edible one, and
(35:36):
everything else is justdisgusting.
So most people that I knew withthe mres or the emergency
rations would rather be hungrythan eat that crap, especially
because the lemon bars make youso damn thirsty and you don't
want to be drinking all yourwater just because you're
thirsty.
So I'd rather be hungry thanthirsty or eating garbage.
So you carry it with you justto make sure that you don't go
(35:59):
absolutely hungry, but it reallydoes give you the incentive to
what do they call it?
Put on your try-hard pants.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I actually would find it very fun for us to all get
out to the forest and kind oflike TJ said, just to see what
we could do Also just a GoProwith like 20 batteries.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, it'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Fucking film it, because I feel like we would
very quickly.
I am pretty actually confidentthat we would very quickly get
the necessities figured out, theessentials, and then at that
point it's like what do we build, what do we do?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
also no tent, let's build a giant fire, let's fuck
around.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, no tent no tent , just sleeping bag you know, I
don't even think I would do asleeping bag, I think I would do
a hammock.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I think, yeah, bring in a tarp and then we could
create like a kind of teepee orlike a kind of long teepee kind
of house thing and then use thetarp to cover it for protection
from rain.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
But that's it.
Yeah, otherwise I would.
I would prefer a hammock.
I want to be off the ground buteven then we can.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Um, I mean, I've seen you can get sticks and mud and
leaves to create a sort of roofthat'll protect you from rain
yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I mean there's what he should have done.
He should have gotten the palmleaves, and he should have
gotten like I don't know a lotof his fucking, just dirt, wet
sand, whatever the fuck.
Paste it all that shit.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
A lot of his buildings were very minimalistic
, um, but like I said, I thinkhe was really relying on the
cave oh yeah, ultimate shelterwhich is why I me personally I
would have gone the route ofburning right, Fire, fire, fire.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I would have been burning all the wet stuff that I
could, making as much smoke, asmuch visible noise.
If you will Right, Look overhere.
Look over here, Becauseshipping captains, when you're
going over, one thing thatyou're not used to seeing is
fire out in the middle of theocean yeah you see smoke, it's
gonna draw attention.
What's?
Over there um, nothing'ssupposed to be over there.
(37:53):
We need to see that's a fireyou know 100 fires don't break
out in the middle of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's a ship, it's a an island, and I think he would
have been found if he would havejust went fucking crazy, you
know even if he, if he just hada fire on that first time that
that boat came by at night, ifhe just had a fire, then he
could have definitely signaledthem okay, okay, josh, all right
, you must acknowledge the joshand the josh says I'm in on this
(38:21):
camping trip that, that a fourpeople would be great well,
nerdy vet says too.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I say a bunch of us do the camping.
Do you think that you got with?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
the uh the chick at the end.
I hope so, I hope so I thinkthat's what they're building up
towards because, if you noticed,because she was so in him in uh
in russia she was her husbandwas cheating on her right.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And then at their little farm they had it was like
his name and her name, and thenwhen it was the end, one of the
names were cut out, so I thinkbitch is single shit.
Like hey, you saved my lifegirl.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Okay, hold on.
Here's a way she was talking tohim.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Nerdy added something which is really cool here.
Nerdyvet says I say a bunch ofus do the camping with a $60
budget and we make a bug out bag.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Ooh, that'd be interesting, That'd be very fun.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Real question If we turned Wilson around, do you
think there's a little holecutting it?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
What are you saying right now?
Damn, not at first, dude.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Not at first, but tell me.
Not at first, but do you think?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
That thing was flat later.
Do you think that if we?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
turn.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Wilson around there's a hole, maybe like an inch
maybe two wide I don't know.
He seemed a little distraught.
Yo, he had a volleyball at theend, bro, he misses it.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Wilson was deflated towards the end.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I would like to.
I hear what you're saying, I'munderstanding, I'm picking up
what you're putting down.
I'm going to say God, I hopenot, because that feels, I
imagine would feel very painful.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
He flips it around and calls it Kelly.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, whilst looking at the picture that he drew on
the wall.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Right With that hairstyle on Wilson.
That kind of looked like reallyweird Michael.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Jackson.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
It was so bad, that was so funny.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
She's much prettier in real life.
Why'd you even draw her?
You got a picture right there.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I know I'm like he has a picture right there, but I
mean, I guess, to fill time youknow, sometimes someone gets
lonely.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
He literally had a volleyball in his front seat at
the end bro, I definitely thinkhe was doing whatever he needed.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
And see, I think that's probably the hardest part
to acknowledge is you have toknow?
I think it was old school ClintEastwood who was quoted as
saying a man's got to know hislimitations.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
No, that wasn't Clint Eastwood, that was the Duke.
A man's got to do what a man'sgot to do.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
That was the Duke A man's gotta do.
That was the day a man's gottaknow his limitations right.
So you gotta know when yourmind is about to snap and you
gotta do whatever you have to do.
And I think this guy was a gooddepiction of that when, when he
was pushing himself too far, ifyou will, he did whatever was
necessary to make himself levelagain, if that makes sense yeah,
(41:09):
I think I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I like you.
I think you called them anchorsearlier.
I think that's a good word forit.
There was wilson was definitelyone of them.
Um, I think I probably alsowould have taken maybe about a
week to start talking to thefootball.
I don't know, I would like tothink, maybe a little bit longer
no.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
I would have been talking right away.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
This could have gone way darker out.
He could have just startedtalking to the dead body.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, I'm very glad that the dead body did what was
done with it.
Can we bring up a past?
Speaker 3 (41:40):
episode.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
That was the Night Eats the World.
I thought you were going tobring up warm bodies.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
No, that was the Night Eats the World Fucking
French people.
That girl broke in, he blastedher, but in his mind she was
alive.
Until he went back in the roomand saw like oh no, none of this
happened.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
So how does that relate, though?
What do you?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
So if Chuck would have gone and started talking to
the body like oh yeah, okay, hewould imagine him alive,
imagine like I feel like thatwould have been a yeah, fucking
crazier movie.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
It would have been a much darker tone, I think let's
get a.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Let's get a psychological thriller fucking
Castaway with Tom Hanks as he isnow.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Older Tom Hanks.
Chuck Nolan gets stuck again,that'd be hilarious.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh my God, castaway 2 .
Speaker 1 (42:39):
That'd be so messed up, that'd be a crazy movie.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
You guys both agree.
I think I agree with you too,Castaway 2 would have been crazy
.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I understood Chuck's reasoning for not opening the
packages right away.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
The crazy movie.
You guys both agree.
I think I agree with you too.
I understood.
I understood chuck's reasoningfor not opening the packages
right away.
But I think I agree with withyou guys in the more logical
thing to do.
You're in this situation.
I'm opening up packages.
The second I get them.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I'm using everything at my disposal like exactly
cardboard and the fucking bubblewrap which he did use.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
He used the bubble wrap to like address his leg
wound and whatever yeah, butwhich I I kind of like that I I
don't think I would have usedbubble wrap, but that's, that's
interesting now I will tell yousomething that I I did not fully
understand, and now I get it.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Um, did you know that cauterizing a wound is not
necessarily the right thing todo?
Even if you're bleeding quite abit, you can cause infection by
doing it.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Well, you got to clean it first right, and then
you cauterize it.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
He couldn't clean it.
So, you got to let it bleed, soit pusses and removes the
infection.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Because I mean, that's kind of the thing with
cauterizing is that if you sealit and it has all that bacteria
in it, you've just sealed it allin the wound.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Right.
So yeah, you do have to cleanit first and then you cauterize
it as much as it would hurt.
You got to just go in the oceanright there and just fucking
scrub it.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Yeah, I mean, he did try, didn't he Like he got?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
salt water on it, but I don't know that he he clearly
didn't die of an infection,Right.
So you know he did something,right.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
That was something I was thinking about Between the
tooth, the hand and the leg.
I can't believe he didn't dieof infection at some point.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
See if it was me, a Gen X raising man, who rubbed
some dirt on it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I'm not going to lie.
I've had some bad cuts on somereally nasty things at work.
I've had some nasty water getuh, splashed up in my eyes and
my mouth and whatnot, and fluidsthat I don't I like to imagine.
I don't know what it is andjust keep on moving we're gonna
pretend they're not dog fluids,it's just.
(44:39):
I don't know what it is justdirt, just dirt, just dirt uh
and I've yet to like get anycrazy illness or infection or
whatnot.
I sliced my thumb so good on oneof our drain grates.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Floor drain.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, an outdoor yard drain, grate.
It's where all the poop, vomitand pee goes over it when it
goes into the drain.
I sliced my fingers so good onthat and I washed that shit so
much.
And when you guys were I thinka previous episode we were
talking about I was like if Ihad a deep wound, I just put a
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bunch of alcohol on it.
And you guys were like, oh you,I think you underestimate how
much that would hurt.
And I was like the alternativeis lose your hand so I'm like I
was spraying my hand out is thatgash?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I think he could have used uh charcoal from the fire
to that's.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
That's a good point too shoving that guy just looked
it up and said it is used forit is in wounds, sometimes
because it interesting.
It helps with bacteria orwhatever it absorbs the bacteria
and, yeah, it prevents yourbody from absorbing it.
It is more absorbent than yourbody, so it goes to the charcoal
I wonder if that would give himlike a tattoo, that's it.
(45:53):
I mean, like after it heals youmake a really good point, though
, with all the wood that hewould be burning if we were out
in a in a woods scenario likethis.
We're near a stream.
Uh, I'm already of the opinion.
We've talked about this on thepodcast.
You don't take water out of astream without boiling it,
filtering it, filtering it andboiling it, and the reason why
(46:13):
is because you don't know what'supstream, unless you get to the
mouth of the spring.
If you find the mouth of thespring, you can drink directly
out of that and it'll beperfectly safe.
But anything else that youdon't know where the source is,
you don't want to do that now,is it true that you should drink
at like, um, like.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Not when I say waterfall, don't think huge, but
like little drop-offs in theriver.
Is that the best spot to getthe water?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
it's the most convenient spot, but it's in
anywhere that there's anupstream.
You're gonna have the samesituation.
You want to filter and boil andif we were in this situation
out in the woods like that, we'dbe burning wood.
You'd have plenty of charcoalyou have.
What you would want to do isdeprived oxygen setting.
You make small amounts of oflittle twigs.
(47:01):
Stuff like that fill into likethink like an altoids container
that are just a fucking punch.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
A couple of holes in it a coke.
Can something like that fillinto like think like an altoids
container?
That are just a fucking punch acouple of holes in it, a coke
can something like that?
Speaker 3 (47:09):
just a couple of holes in it.
Set it right in the fire, letit burn for hour and a half.
You pull that out, you get theuh, the charcoal out.
You crumble it all up.
That's your filter.
You can put that, wrap that ina cloth, put it at the bottom of
a two liter bottle and pour allthe water in.
Let it filter right on out.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
It'll be nice and clean and if you had no fire you
could drink that in his case, Iwould be collecting all the
water off of, like the runofffrom the mountain whenever it
rained that that like it waspouring into the cave and such
you know.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
But didn't he use leaves?
Didn't he like drink out ofleaves?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
yeah and coconuts yeah, but I would definitely
have like a very intricate watercollection system if I was.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
I agree, I agree.
It would have, and I don't knowhe must have because they
didn't bring coconuts.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Right and he just like poked holes in them.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I think he was just meat in there.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I think how did he get the meat cups.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Oh, because he had fully sealed coconuts that just
had a hole on top.
How do you get the meat out ofthere?
I feel like that would start toferment and get gross.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
It would, and he definitely would have had to get
the meat out.
I mean, I could sit there.
He had nothing but time on hishands.
Right, you get a nice solidstick, get it inside and start
grinding up the meat and pullingit out and eating it.
And you're just taking yourtime to pull it out and then you
take it, go down to the oceanand wash it out with the salt
water as much as you can, andthen fresh water rinse and
(48:31):
you're ready to go yeah that's Imean you're just talking about.
He had four years, nothing buttime that?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
that's kind of the thing I think about.
Is he?
He had nothing else to doexcept survive, which is why I
think it's crazy that he waitedas long as he did to make a fire
.
But yeah, he had nothing buttime on his hands, like that's
why I think it'd be interestingfor all of us to get out into
the woods and just start doingshit, because I think I think we
(48:57):
would get the essentials out ofthe way pretty quickly, and
then at that point it's just wegot all this time.
What are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (49:02):
So that moves on to the next point that I'd like to
make.
That I think is reallyimportant in a survival
situation like this is anotherpsychological anchor is
developing a routine.
You've got to create a routinefor yourself because you can't
just sit, you can't just that'slike I don't know if you know
this, this uh rumor, but polarbears run themselves to the
(49:25):
point of absolute zero energyleft.
If they don't catch food, theydig a hole in the snow, lay in
it and die.
And I think if you're in thiskind of a situation, you have
that risk that you're just goingto lay down and accept your
fate.
Now, I don't think that's.
I don't take that lightly and Idon't say that easily that
(49:45):
you're just going to literallylie down but you're giving up If
you don't develop a routine foryourself and give yourself
checklists, items to do, chores.
If you will, you have to giveyourself things to do and it has
to be relevant, important stufftowards your survival to keep
you going, and you have to do itright.
You have to keep making fireevery day.
You can't let that fire go out.
You have to keep you going andyou have to do it right.
You have to keep making fireevery day.
(50:07):
You can't let that fire go out.
You have to keep filling it up.
You got to keep going andcollecting more wood.
You have to keep collectingwater.
You have to keep getting yourfood.
So it's getting those.
Developing those routines isgonna ensure your survival for
longer.
Wow, is that the island?
Speaker 1 (50:24):
That is, do cast away , that's a company that sends
you 150 euros a night.
That's 170 dollars per night.
170 times 3 if we were to stay3 nights, that's 510 dollars For
all 3 of us.
510 dollars times 3, that's1500 dollars.
Y'all got 1500 dollars.
Let's go do cast Away realquick.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Let's go real quick.
Let's go to Indonesia, causethat's.
Let's go do Castaway real quick.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Let's go to Indonesia , because that's where that one
is.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, that's not even including the plane flight.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Isolation level high.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
I think there's some good spots between here and
Washington.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I'm pretty sure there's plenty of islands in
Washington also.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
I was imagining I thought you were talking about
islands and I was like I thinkthere's a lot of land in between
.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
What I would say about going all the way up to
Washington.
I will admit I am completelyignorant of the wildlife and the
terrain.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
We've got deer, we've got bears, you guys have
grizzlies, huh.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
They got grizzlies.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
yeah, We've got rabbits and shit.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
It's pretty much it.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
It's just those three animals.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Do you have black bears and grizzlies?
I?
Think we only have Let me look,I think it would be primarily
grizzlies.
I think the black are isolatedto California and maybe lower
Oregon.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
I'm glad we have black bears.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Lazy fucks Black and grizzly bears.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, it could be far worse.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
You have both Shit.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Eh not that bad.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Just remember if you can't cover a grizzly with your
thumb, you're too close.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
I can take on at least three.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Play dead with a grizzly.
Be loud with a black bear.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
You guys have wild chicken up there uh, I fucking
never seen one, do we I?
Speaker 3 (52:08):
don't know, that's what I'm.
I'm reading here on the chatnerdy says so squirrels, but I
think squirrels are everywherein the union, grouse.
Okay, the one that I learnedfrom um, from luke, of the
outdoor boys, is, uh, ptarmiganyeah, which that looked like a
tasty little bird, man.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
He made that up.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Little 22.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
We're, we're, we're everybody listening, you can
tell we're getting tired, so Ithink it's time yeah.
We are really just talkingabout random shit For for the
announcement of the winner,before I announce who the winner
is.
Boys, what's your next movie?
Speaker 2 (52:51):
man, you know what I don't like?
The way that you choose thewinner.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
I'm not picking a movie I'm definitely going to be
picking a zombie movie.
I was looking over a wholebunch on amazon prime and my
problem was I couldn't decidewhich one I think I want to make
you guys watch.
Uh, I think it's just calledzombie apocalypse it's the one
that has ving rames in it.
It is like it is really, reallygood for being a really bad
(53:20):
movie, but it's like they werejust.
They were just dollars short ofit being an extremely good
movie.
So you get to see what thedifference in budget does to a
movie.
But Ving Rhames really carriesthe cast.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Alex, would you like to?
Speaker 1 (53:39):
give our socials.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Yes, everybody, make sure you go check us out on our
socials on tiktok, instagram,facebook, youtube, rumble I
always forget about rumble.
We do have a rumble.
I don't know what's on it.
Haven't done anything to it.
Sorry about that, buteverything is under.
Will you survive the podcast?
Just give us a search.
You can find us on x bysearching at alex and eric.
(54:03):
Sorry, tj, that was made a longtime ago and we haven't
restarted it.
It's okay.
Please, when you go to oursocials, help us out.
Go check out the profiles, lookat the videos, like, follow,
share.
Do all of that good stuff.
Help us reach the masses.
You don't want to miss out onthis information.
It could save your life.
(54:24):
If you're out stuck on adeserted island somewhere,
you'll be like, hey wait, Iremember I listened to that
podcast.
Will you survive the podcast?
Speaker 2 (54:33):
and we'll be there with you yeah, when you're on
the island, you can just put onour episodes because you have
them downloaded on your phone,obviously, clearly, and then
you'll be able to listen to allof our episodes while you're
stranded on a desert island.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
That's what I meant.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Eric, who do you think won?
Speaker 2 (54:55):
I feel pretty confident.
I think I won Alex.
Who do you think?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
won.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Clearly I won.
I read that long-ass storyline.
I tried keeping you guys onpoint the whole time true.
I was trying to keep us offpoint and I read those socials
like a master.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Eric winner speech.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Oh, wow, wow the guy who defied you and wouldn't even
he respects that oh you, son ofa bit Josh.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
What did he say?
Speaker 3 (55:29):
I give three points to Eric for being a rebel.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Let's go Wow, you kind of got, you kind of lost by
a landslide, yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
No, I didn't.
Who wants to?
Speaker 2 (55:40):
see Eric sleeping.
I appreciate the win.
I won't let you down, coach.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
You've already let him down.
They had us in the first half.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
TJ has pictures of me sleeping.
That's not true.
And yeah, I'm not 100% surewhat we're going to do do next
week, but I do have some stuffplanned, so I just have to pick
from something.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
But yes, thank you for the win, appreciate it so
just so you know, nerdy, if youwere in the constitution it
would matter, but as it is, onlyI can be grateful for what you
tried to do here.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
Nerdy says 10 to alex for knowing survival stuff yeah
, and I should try, nerdy, Iknow survival stuff too.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
You don't know, dick.
Thank you all for listening totoday's episode.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
It has been a blast.
It is very hot in this room.
I'm in.
I am sweating fucking balls.
It is going to be 90 degreestomorrow.
That's hotter than where youguys are.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
We had like 100 recently.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
We did.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Yeah, it was like 90 today.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
I just looked up the weather for y'all.
It's going to be fucking like80s, anyways 78 actually it's
going to be so hot 78 tomorrow.
Thank you, all for listening.
This has been the Will youSurvive podcast.
It has.
Make sure you do check us outon all of those socials and
other listening platforms andmake sure to rate us on spotify.
It really does help.
They will.
Um and yeah, until next time.
(57:13):
Stay alive and don't hit yourtooth out with the ice skate and
if you are stranded, make afire.
Thank you.
Hello survivors and welcome back to another episode
of Will you Survive.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Podcast, and today we are talking about the movie
Cast Away.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
For a brief second.
I thought you were waiting forus to finish your sentence.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I am TJ.
I am joined here by my twoco-hosts.
We've got alex that's me andwe've got eric, that's me,
eric's the bald one.
Um, so yeah, guys, uh, castaway.
It's a, it's a, it's a reallygood movie um eric had never
seen it before I'd never seen itbefore, and you know, just in
case you guys haven't seen itbefore.
(01:03):
I'm gonna have have Alex readout the synopsis.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
All right, Forgive me here, because this one is just
like the movie a lengthydescription.
Memphis-based FedEx operationsexecutive Chuck Noland and grad
student Kelly Frears have longdated and lived together and,
despite each being the love ofeach other's life, have not
gotten married because of theirrespective busy schedules,
especially Chuck's, as he ismore often on business trips
(01:28):
than he is at home.
That marital status changeswhen, on Christmas Day 1995, as
Chuck is rushing off to catchyet another FedEx plane for a
business trip, he gives Kelly aring.
That flight experiencestechnical difficulties and goes
down somewhere in the SouthPacific In a life raft.
A relatively unharmed Chuckwashes up on shore.
(01:48):
What he will learn is adeserted island.
He unaware what has happened toany of his fellow flight mates
or the plane.
However, several of thepackages on board for delivery
do wash up on shore with him,those packages which he
initially treats with respect.
Chuck realizes that hispriority is survival, which
primarily means food, water,shelter and fire and rescue.
(02:10):
But survival is also anemotional sense.
To fulfill that emotional need,he has an heirloom pocket watch
with Kelly's photo that shegave him as a Christmas present
and eventually, opening theFedEx packages, a Wilson
volleyball on which he paints aface in which he names Wilson.
As time progresses, chuck goesthrough a range of emotions, but
(02:30):
if rescue is ever in the cards,he realizes that he has to find
a way to get off the island,which is seemingly impossible.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That was quite a description.
Tell me about it.
It straight up told the entiremovie.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Let's start this off with what do you think of the
movie and would you have doneanything differently?
Oh, I've got notes.
You've got notes, I've gotnotes.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
First thing I would like to say respect for packages
immediately out the window.
First of all, there's no lawshere.
I don't give a shit.
Second of all, why collect thepackages if you're not going to
open them right away?
There's so much there could.
There could be so much usefulstuff in there, and eventually
he opened them, but right away.
There is no part of me that'sever concerned with like well,
(03:16):
they're going to want to deliverthese.
I'm stranded in the middle ofthe ocean on a deserted island.
I don't care, I'm opening them.
I think he waited too long.
Also, he waited till he waitedso long to make fire, and that's
like a night one thing.
But those are my notes.
Those are my big notes rightaway, okay.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I didn't.
I didn't have those issues.
I actually took his reservationof opening the packages as,
i'm'm going to say, a beliefthat he was going to be rescued
quickly.
He was really holding onto ahope that this was not going to
be a long stay.
That was evidenced by the factthat he wrote help on the beach
(03:56):
quickly.
He was going around collectingthe packages, exploring the
island.
Everything else he did wasreally quite well.
I mean, he went, he surveilledthe island, collected packages.
While he did so and was lookingfor anything useful, made
himself shelter with his raft.
Um, I do think the the funnything that I remember the very
(04:20):
first time I saw this movie, thethumps.
He he expressed my exactthought what the hell is that?
So it was.
It was comforting to find out.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It was just coconuts falling on the ground, but it's
like it was almost rhythmic djalso pointed out, when the
coconut fell in front of him itwas like a foot to his right.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
he was just a foot over one One oh yeah, he would
have been freaking dead movieover Coconuts literally kill
people.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I mean, I think they definitely can.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, one thing I would do is, instead of help on
the sand, I would have wrote SOS.
Eric was like maybe that wouldtake more logs.
I think not.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I feel like it would take less.
I don't think so.
Yeah, I think it would takeless.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I don't think so yeah , I think it would take less um.
I don't know it kind of seemslike to each their own.
But I mean, he had a plan to uhunalive himself.
I I'd say that's pretty uh,accurate uh, except I wouldn't
wait three years well, we don'tknow that.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
He waited three years to do it.
He did that at some point.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Well, no, within those three years um, when he
was talking to wilson, when he,like, went to go test it, he
said that was a year ago.
Stop bringing it up.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
And it was cut to four years, so it was three
years into it.
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You're right, which he held on for a minute.
Yeah, so here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I think how do I word this?
I think, survival wise, theisland was actually really nice,
yep, and provided a lot andlevel wise, the island was
actually really nice andprovided a lot, and I think I
think I could actually survivethat.
I think I could figure it outthe way that, the same way that
he did.
However, I don't know if mypsyche could survive four years
stuck on an island.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I think I would melt down.
Yeah, he pretty much had likeunlimited water so you didn't
really have to worry about waterlike that.
He was having a tough timeopening those coconutsuts which,
like, they're not that hard toopen okay, there there are two
types.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Number one he got really freaking lucky with that.
Uh, because you have the greencoconuts and you have the brown
coconuts, the brown coconutsdon't drink the milk, it will
actually dehydrate you.
It works as a diuretic, but theum, the green coconut, the, the
outer shell, is really fibrous,so it would be hard.
You can make stuff.
You can make fire.
(06:30):
You can uh you can probablygrate it into
Speaker 2 (06:33):
it is what he used, wasn't it?
I don't think it's long enoughto I, because I thought about
that too, about could you use itfor rope, but it none of it's
long enough to really well, Idon't know, but you can bind it
together.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Being that I am a dad of two young children and I
have watched Moana about abillion times.
They make nets from the fiber.
The water is sweet inside.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You can use the leaves to build fire.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I'm quoting the song out of the movie.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Nobody knows that, but anybody who watches.
Yeah, I don't know that.
You suck, dude, you suck.
Don't take this away from mykids.
Quoted Lilo and Stitch.
See, it's more topical.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Bro.
We were watching Lilo andStitch all week.
I got my daughter into it onWednesday.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know she's so funny, she started crying.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I don't want to watch this.
And like within three minutes,was sitting and is that an alien
?
Is this on earth?
It's a cool movie?
What?
Why is he gray like?
And then, all of a sudden, nowtoday, tonight, we were like,
hey, we're gonna watch anothermovie.
And she was like we can watchlilo and stitch I uh, she's so
funny.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
She came into my room and she was uh, she was asking
me if I knew about, uh, lilo andher friend, and I was.
I was like oh, stitch, and shewas like yeah, and I was like
you mean her friend, and I waslike oh, stitch, and she was
like yeah, and I was like youmean Experiment 626?
And she was like yeah, how the?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
hell, do you know that?
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And she was like they said this weird word a lot.
I was like Ohana, ohana meansfamily and she's like yeah, it's
a great movie.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Gotta say say love this movie.
I've been watching this moviesince it came out.
I remember being like six I'mshocked.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I've never seen this movie before.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
There is something I got out of it something I got
out of it new this time that Ididn't quite get.
I don't know if I got it thefirst time I watched it.
I don't think so, because itseemed like it was new
information to me.
The pilots were talking tothemselves.
They were talking to each otherabout how off course they were.
Now maybe I just missed theinformation, but they explained
(08:40):
to you why he was never evenremotely close to being found.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, they were looking 200 miles away from
where they were trying to goaround the storm and that, well,
you're right, right.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
And they had lost communication.
They were not communicatingwith any tower anywhere or any
other aircraft, and so nobodywould know where they were when
they went down.
One of the other things that Ithought was really kind of.
It was very dramatic, very coolto see.
A lot of interesting stuffhappened there.
(09:16):
But when that plane crashed andthe wing starts going under,
the turbine.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It wouldn't have been running like that.
I thought that was so cool.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
It wouldn't have been running like that.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I thought it was so cool.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It looked really awesome.
That was a great scene.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, it's just a little bit of suspense.
Is he going to get chopped upor something?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Kind of War of the Worlds-esque.
You know it was.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
The sound effects right there were so freaking
good.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
It was a great scene as far as effects go.
You gotta, you gotta give themcredit for when the plane goes
under and he's under with it,and then he opens up the?
Uh the raft and it pulls him upand you see the plane going
down the?
Uh, the lights of thingssparking still and arcing and
going off and he's gettingcalled up.
Oh, that's, that's veryinteresting.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I think Eric said that he didn't notice that when
he was like inflating it and hewas underwater, the thing that
got snagged was all the supplies.
Oh, it got snagged and pulledunder like the orange thing that
was full of like supplies andshit.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
That's what jacked him up.
So he yeah, flares fires him up.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
So he, yeah, flares fire fighters, whatever the fuck
dang.
Yeah, if he, if that didn'thappen, he would have been even
more well off than he was.
Um, you know which?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
makes sense that that's very life of pie, because
the raft does come with all ofthat stuff attached to it, so he
had to jettison that to get outof the plane.
Yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
And then, um, also, he had a sw Swiss Army knife on
his keys that he had to giveback to his girl.
That would have been nice tohave.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, before he got on the plane.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, what I thought so kind of skipping really quick
towards the end when he getsback to civilization.
I found it very funny and kindof eye-opening when he was
walking around just grabbing allthe simple conveniences of
civilization.
Like a lighter and a pocketknife and just all these things
(11:14):
that he's like.
I had to fight for my life toget these things.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh yeah, and they're fucking assholes too.
What about?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
the flashlight.
Yeah, the flashlight.
There's a lot that I think iton so do we think once the the
flashlight ran out of battery,do we think he could have found
a way to get the glass out anduse that to start a fire with
the?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
definitely, most definitely.
Yeah, because it's a curvedpiece of glass.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So much easier than what he was trying to do, which
he got it eventually, but thatwould be so easy to do.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, this is a great opportunity to bring up the bow
drill.
So what he was doing was justhe was using his hands.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And it was fucking his hands up.
But there's a better way to doit.
And he had the string from theskates.
He could have used that andlike a bendy piece of wood, like
a stick or whatever, and hecould have put it around,
wrapped it and then use like asawing motion with like a rock
on top of the other stick that'sdoing the drilling, and just do
(12:16):
that back and forth so itdoesn't cook your hands.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Now I wonder if we all agree with this.
You already said it he waitedfar too long, far longer than
necessary to make the fire, yeahyeah, um, now he did prioritize
covering himself, it was.
It was janky, it was just theraft kind of lifted up on a but
even then, like why?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
why not get like a couple sticks with palm leaves
attached to them to put over you?
I mean in the raft like I don'tknow.
I there's just I feel like hereally didn't do anything, but
we could chalk it up to just theshock of yeah, I also think
that he was gonna get rescued.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I think he he thought he was gonna get rescued, oh
yeah definitely because he saw aboat out in the distance.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So clearly boats go through there, I wonder how many
he's seen over the cut if onlyhe had his flares.
Huh yeah, if he had his flaresor even like if he just had his
fire going you know, palm frondslike he was doing like when he
got it lit.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Exactly, fire should have been one of the first
priorities for him.
It drives me crazy that hewaited to like what was.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
It was like night three before he decided to make
a fire so here's a a good timeto talk about something like
this, uh, without the necessityof risking burning down the
entire island, uh, what youcould do in that situation right
, but.
But let's just say you knowforest fires move quickly, but
most of that was wet.
(13:43):
So what you could do is you geta lot of wet wood, you build a
hot, hot, hot fire and then youstart throwing wet wood on it.
You know what you get, rightsteam you get dry wood, you get
a lot of smoke white smoke, andif you can get white smoke in
the air, you're gonna get goingto look which the island that
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he's on is right next to Fiji.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I looked it up.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Did you really?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, I looked at the island.
I'd seen pictures of it.
It's a real island.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
So if he would have started burning huge quantities
of wet wood, you get largeamounts of smoke in the air.
So basically, smoke comes whenthe fire's not burning hot
enough.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You get less smoke when you get a hotter fire
because it's burning more of the, Because the particles are
going up in the air.
But the hotter it is, the lessparticles are Right.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So you can do this with all of that wet wood, and
he had plenty of wood.
It seemed like that island justreplenished itself over and
over again yeah, that's what Iwas saying, like the island was
was very nice to him, dude Ithink you definitely had a whole
house by fucking four years.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, honestly, oh hell yeah with what I saw that
he had.
I he was living very minimalist, but I I think he took the cave
as like natural shelter, so noneed to build a house, you know
yeah which I agree, I the cavewas.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I would have still pimped the cave out.
Awesome, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'd have pimped the cave out.
Yeah, Fucking Elisa.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
I'd have tried to make torches that's not wet all
this time.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
A cot.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, something.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
A cot, I would have been sleeping off of the ground.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
But that's also a way he yeah, well, once he, once he
started making the fire, thenhe had the crabs yeah, he was, I
think really good yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
So I do want to give a shout out because nerdy vet
says uh, very accurateinformation.
Black smoke means man-madestuff is on fire.
White smoke is natural stuff ison fire.
That's absolutely true.
The white smoke means thatthere's water vapor right, it's
water vapor, or steam, as it'suh, burning up, so it's
typically organic materials,whereas black smoke often means
(15:57):
it's petroleum, rubber,synthetic substances that are
burning and it's containing sootand usually toxic chemicals
that you don't want to breathe.
Now, white smoke could alsomean that you're putting out
that black smoke or that fire ofthe materials.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
So it doesn't always mean that, but generally
speaking, Speaking of unnaturalthings, one thing I did bring up
for like the 20 minutes.
Eric was with me while I waswatching it.
There's no trash on the beach.
The only piece of trash we seefloat up is the fucking porta
potty.
Four years later, but there'sdefinitely like a lot of trash
(16:34):
on beaches.
I watch a dude on a freakingYouTube and literally that's how
he survives.
He's like I'm going out threedays, don't got nothing with me
other than a knife, and he findslike bottles and freaking
broken lighters and stuff thathe can use to now start fire.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I fully agree that generally that's what that means
.
But you can also make theargument that the reason why
nobody found the island he wason is because no currents travel
that way in in the ocean, thereare areas, and I'd have to look
up the name again.
There are areas that are calledit's a desert, so there's no
(17:12):
current, there's no wildlife,there's no um, there's no
plankton, no seaweed, sonothing's there.
and if you go there with a no,no, well, he, he could be
surrounded by something likethat because there was a reason
why he had such good, abundantlife.
Uh, there was an ecosystemsurrounding that island, but
perhaps there was no other thanthe waves crashing on the beach.
(17:36):
There was no current leadingthings to him, and I'd also I'd
also speculate that that was thecase because of how hard it was
for him once he got past thereef, uh, the outer shore break,
once he got out past that it.
It wasn't like the, and maybethey just didn't want to show us
something like this, but itwasn't like he had, um, abundant
(17:58):
help with the currents.
Not for a while, because hewasn't like hauling balls, you
know, he had that little sail up, which that's.
That's good, that's what youneed.
But uh, it didn't show untilthe storm came up, the first
storm, when I was actually happyto see that storm because that
(18:19):
started bringing water.
But to get back on the island,some of the things that I'd like
to point out that he did wasreally good was prioritizing
water.
He learned how to store it.
Learn is kind of a harsh way tosay it, but he figured out
rather quickly I have to storethis right.
Even though he had abundantcoconuts, he started storing his
water.
Of course, I think we all agreethat he waited way too long to
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start a fire.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah, yeah, it was like four days he was sleeping
out in the freaking, just coldyeah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, which is just bizarre because you sleep on the
floor.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
typically after a few hours it's sucking body heat
from you I would be so coldthat's all I was thinking about,
honestly this whole movie, isthat I'm such a cold person.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Naturally I I would not be able to and I only
believe that from you, tj myself, are not going to be cold on
this.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I guarantee you, it was tropical fucking boiling, I
guarantee you which is why Ikind of give some play.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You and I might have done the exact same thing,
because we'd be burning in thesunlight all day long.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Dig a little trench in the sand and lay in that and
let it cool you off except if itwas me and you, we'd be fine
from the sun, really, and theneric, he'd be getting sunburned
well, that's, true I I do notget sunburned no really no, I've
.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I've gotten a sunburn like once in my entire life but
you're so pasty, I know he's sowhite.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Okay, actually you want to see something crazy I
noticed this earlier today lookat how farmer tan I mean now it
kind of looks the same, but lookhow white my arm is yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
You can really tell it also on my neck and my my
like forearms are way.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
He's showing you can't really see it, but they
are darker than the frickingyeah.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It's too blue, but it kind of looks like it's the
shadow, but this is juststraight up a different color
than my chest.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So shadow, but this is just straight up a different
color than my chest.
So, um, no, I see that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted tobring up uh rip to the outdoor
boys youtube channel.
Uh, by the way, oh yeah, Imeant to say that is uh, I don't
mind being cold, I don't mindsleeping on the floor and I
don't mind being hungry, but Ionly do one of those at once.
Yep, and I think that's reallygood advice that was one of my
(20:33):
favorite episodes yeah, so you,you know, take care of your shit
like it's I would have done.
I built a fire, or at leaststarted trying immediately, you
know somewhat.
I needed somewhat of likeshelter because, like they're
not, if you still have hope thatthey're gonna find you dog,
they're not gonna find you indog.
They're not going to find youin two hours.
It's going to be a minute.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
But now, when he saw the boat that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Right away.
I'm thinking I'm in survivalmode.
I'm opening up all thosepackages right away.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
There's no part of me that's like they'll be here in
an hour.
Do they find them?
They're going to be.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Where's Marge's package?
I don't know Exactly.
There's no laws here.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
What are we worried about?
Just open them, the plane crash.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
It was open in the plane crash.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, there's literally no part of me at all
that would not open thosepackages immediately.
Yeah, I would.
Also, I'm not going to lie.
If I land on an island, I amlooking for a cave.
I would be looking pretty soonafter making a fire.
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I wouldn't be looking for a cave right off the bat.
You want to make sure thatthere's no wild boar on the
island.
They will kill a man.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I know They'll kill me.
I could take at least four.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Four.
Come on now, you could take onefor sure.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I four.
Come on now, you can take onefor sure.
Take at least two and a half.
It might gore you, but in thissituation I I would be looking
for, uh, a cave it was verybarren I would be in like
immediately, except like crabsimmediate survival mode.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You know like scavenge everything, fucking.
You know like when dude's bodywashed up, I'm taking his
clothes, not just his shoes, I'mtaking everything off that man.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
That fabric is useful .
Speaker 1 (22:14):
He didn't even use his shoes because he was like,
oh, they're too small he did, hecut the soul, he cut the toe
off oh, I didn't realize that Imean, eventually they probably
wore the fuck out because he wasbarefoot by the but yeah, no,
I'm going in all everythingthat's all useful stuff, yep,
I'll bury him.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Still, he's getting buried naked though yeah, I
would take the clothes, I meanjust to cut up the pants or and
like cut up the stuff to use itfor other things if needed.
Now you know, real, real, dark,real quick, real dark, real
quick.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You guys have both said and I agree make some
fishing line and then use partsof him to catch fish oh, oh, my
God, it's true.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
It's so gross, but it's true.
It's so gross, but like yougotta do what you gotta do, bro,
you know, and frankly speaking,I think the point was made too,
because wasn't there crabs onthe?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
body.
Josh, thanks for the it's corn.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
And the hurt me there wasn't.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
I don't think so.
I thought there was crabsnearby the body when he went and
got it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Because that's what they would eat.
Coconut crabs ate.
Amelia Earhart, that is atheory.
That's one of the theories,yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Coconut crabs are insane.
No crab needs to be that big.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Isn't that disgusting ?
That is horrifying.
He really thought he could justeat a crab, just raw, though.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Wasn't that nuts yeah .
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But that's why I was like, when he caught it, I was
like make a fire.
And then he like pulled the armapart and was watching all the
goo and I'm like make a fire.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah, it's such an easy solution, it's right there
and then, to bring up that endbit again, when he got back they
gave the dude who was trappedon an island crab fucking
seafood, when that's all he waseating.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It was very interesting to me sushi and crab
.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
That's what they gave this man yep what was you know?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
give me a hamburger his service.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, for real, those were all his favorite foods
before this event.
It would have been nice to havebeen like hey, what, what do
you want to eat?
Man, you've had've had what.
What have you been eating onthat island?
Crab fish.
Yeah, what do you want to eat?
We're going to get you anythingyou want, because I'm with you
guys.
I'd be like fucking barbecueribs, beef ribs, a hamburger.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I will say there's got to be a very massive
difference between crabs caughton an island, cooked on a fire,
versus steamed alaskan king crabking crab like good with butter
sauce.
I think that's very different.
It might be, but I, but Iunderstand what you mean like I
don't want to eat that I what Iwould want.
(24:43):
I'm like I would be like ironman coming out of the cave.
I want a good, old-fashionedamerican cheeseburger.
Yeah, that's what I want yeah,yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah.
Yeah, no, definitely so what doyou think about his, his tool
making?
I mean, he used those iceskates.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Those saved his life, dude.
Yeah, if he didn't get those,he was cooked.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Now, as far as saving his life, how important do you
think that that was for him toknock his own tooth out?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I that was pretty nuts right oh it's either like
it fucking rots out his face, orhe knocks it out and maybe it
gets infected.
I would rather just knock itout.
You know that's okay, Icouldn't I I would rather just
keep gargling salt water likeyou got right, because you saw
he had abundant salt water allaround I think, I think I have
(25:28):
some sort of maybe not a phobia,but I have something with with
teeth, because I hate it so much.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Okay, you want a teeth story.
I got a teeth story.
No, don't, I'm not kidding, Iwill stop listening.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
So when I was a kid, I had cavities in my teeth.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I genuinely did.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And they put, like the silver caps on them right,
it makes me want to faint, andit was my whole bottom row and
my whole top row on both sides,and some of them fell out
normally because they were on mybaby teeth, but there were some
of them that were kind of juststuck in there and they were
small enough that they could fitinto a tab of a Coke can.
(26:06):
Like one of these, you know,and I put it in there.
Nope, I don't like that and Ijust went and ripped it out did.
I had to do that a couple timesyou guess what man?
I got that tooth fairy money.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You are wrong I'm not a bitch when it comes to pain,
really I, I can't, I, I'm notfor those who can't see eric
took off his headphones andrefused to listen to how I
ripped my tooth out when I was akid.
Stop the pain doesn't bother me.
It's not the pain, it's theteeth.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I get it.
It's like rubbing styrofoamtogether or like nails on a
chalkboard type feeling.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
it's worse than that in my opinion, that's a great
example, because that's how Ifelt when I heard the ice skate
touch his tooth.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Oh yeah, dude, it just sent shit all over my spine
.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I couldn't watch that scene.
It made me want to faint.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Oh shit, but like dude, you got to do what you got
to do.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
That is true.
I couldn't do it that that istrue.
I couldn't do it.
I wouldn't be able to do it.
I think uh nerdy says in thechat and I think he's right the
abscess would have eventuallycaused him, uh, caused his, his
demise yeah, I couldn't do it,so you it's either that or you
know I would rather not die afucking jaw rotting out I'm not
(27:28):
kidding.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
this movie just made me realize I just need to book a
dentist appointment because Ican never do this, ever, ever so
guys.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
So I told Eric this Alex, did you know that there's
a company called Do Castaway,that you can pay them and they
will drop you off on an islandto do castaway Shit?
We've got to do castaway dude.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Do they give you a volleyball?
Speaker 1 (27:52):
they do not, but we can bring our own volleyball
that's bullshit.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Do they sprinkle fedex packages around?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I mean you guys can get uh soccer balls, because
that's more your people's thing.
I'll get a uh basketball.
Geez, look at this guy that'sfunny.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Spalding, that's good , that's good spalding wait a
minute.
They would all be spalding,wouldn't they?
That's funny, aren't soccerballs also spalding.
I think a minute they would allbe Spalding wouldn't they?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's funny.
Aren't soccer balls also,spalding?
I think they make.
I think Wilson also makesbasketballs and soccer balls and
I think Spalding.
Jose, jose I'm going to look upSpalding.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No, no, no, no, no, mi amigo Spalding this no, no,
no, no, mi amigo.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Spalding oh yeah, they make volleyball, soccer
balls.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
So what do you think about his I'm going to call it
mental stamina?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
It took him about a week before he started talking
to a ball.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I don't blame him.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Was it only a week it was like not that long, because
it was when he was making afire and the.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
He was like three, like three or four days he was
like sleeping with no fire andthen, like it was that next day
it was like a week before helike cut himself and then
grabbed the ball and then threwit I have made the face it was
like a week.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
That reaction when he made the fire, that is the
reaction of any male.
I agree.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Who makes a fire?
I completely agree 100.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I was like I feel that on a primal level, that is
exactly how I would react.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
I'd be doing all that too there's another reaction
that he did that I completelyunderstood and I think every
male would understand it?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Is it when he cut his hand?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
No, oh, I got that one.
I think it was when he wasplanning his escape, planning
leaving and counting the rope.
We just don't have enough.
We're going to have to findmore rope.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I know where there's 30 feet of extra rope.
I know.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
I'm not going to go up there.
I'm not going to go up there,I'm not gonna go up there.
And then he goes up there.
Cuts to him up there alreadywhich, because I think every guy
has been in that situationwhere no, I'm not going to do
this.
I'm not gonna do it and youknow you have to, you know.
You know there's no otheroption.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You're going to do it so then you gotta, you gotta do
it, or else you're just cooked.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
No, I think I think the one I really understood,
like when he was trying to makethe fire and his hand slipped
and he cut it open on the on thestick and he fucking lost it
yeah I get that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
He was he was fucking himself up in them early days.
He, he sliced his leg open.
He busted his tooth out.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
After the coral stabbing into his leg.
And then he gets back and he'strying to make a fire and he
cuts his hand open.
That frustration, oh, I feltthat where I'm at work and I'm
already irritated about how muchI have left to do.
And then I cut my hand on adoor and I'm like work, and I'm
already irritated about how muchI have left to do.
And then I cut my hand on adoor and I'm like, oh okay.
(30:56):
And then I keep going and I jam,I slam my finger into something
and I'm like I'm gonna fuckinglose it.
I was cleaning the tops ofcrates and they have these bolts
that stick out and I was likecutting up my cuticles.
All over time I'd hit it.
I was just at one point Istraight up slammed my fist
frustrated I slammed my fist onthe top of the crate and I'm
(31:18):
like I'm gonna fucking lose mymind right now if I cut my
finger one more time yeah, sothere were a couple of things.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I think he used a couple of things as anchors.
One was the locket, one was wasWilson Um?
One was counting the days.
He actually started marking allof the days on the cave wall,
remember.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, you kind of going off of that.
Something that I found reallyinteresting is that I am a.
I am the type of person to.
This might make me sound crazy,but I'm the type of person to
kind of talk to myself at times.
Um, not this might make mesound crazy, but I'm the type of
person to kind of talk tomyself at times, not in like a
crazy way, but in like athinking out loud kind of way.
I hope not a crazy way, but Idon't.
(31:58):
I think it would be really easyto fall into silence on the
island and I think that's howWilson kind of helped was to
make him talk, talk, um.
but I found it interesting whenhe was like doing math and
counting and keeping that kindof civilized part of his brain
(32:18):
active and working right, um, bylike counting how many sticks
he was going to need, how muchrope he was going to need.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Doing all that math in his head, he was talking to
himself and also wilson workingit all out, and so I definitely
think that was a big part of it.
The the other thing don't worryabout it, because anybody who's
actually crazy doesn't knowthat they're crazy.
What wait?
Who said that?
Shut?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
up fucking.
Uh, I did think it was very, umvery smart of him.
There's that little piece oflight that crept through into
the cave ah, yeah he, he used tomark out months, so if the
light's over here, that meansit's january.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
If it's over here, that's september I did not yeah
wow yeah, it went all the way upthe cave wall this way, then
around and back down the otherway.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
That's very smart.
He was a fucking smart dude, Ithink also at the beginning he
was.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
It showed his like he had awards for like shit, like
that something to do withsailing, I think yeah so, dude,
he was smart, he had, he hadknowledge no, for real dude was
smart, but the thing that uh oneof our our uh tiktok friends in
(33:40):
the chat had said he hadn'tdone a day's work, you know,
meaning he wasn't an outdoorsykind of guy, right, he probably
had no calluses on his handswhen he went on that island.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Which I definitely think.
I'm waiting for my kids to beolder, because one of the things
that I want to start doing withthem is going out camping.
Oh, back in the day, what wedid was backpacking.
You get like emergency rations,that's it Fishing rod, small
amounts of things.
Right, as little as you can,because you got to carry it all,
(34:13):
and of course, I would have tocarry it all, and then they
would carry their littlebackpacks and you basically just
wear what you wear.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
With their fruit snacks.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
With their fruit snacks.
You know little things right.
You wear what you wear and youhave to do everything right.
Because we do have bears.
So you have to hang your foodup in a tree away from any
branches so that no bears canactually get it.
You have the food downwind ofyou and you have to be aware
that the wind can change on youso you don't want to wind up
(34:44):
being upwind where the bear isgonna not be able to get the
food and then walk into and findyou um found food.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I think, I think we literally need to like
all go camping with like minimalshit, like we get small fishing
rod, a pharaoh rod, a sleepingbag, a tent, a knife.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Guys, we live in 2025 .
Nah, dog.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I want to go out to the middle of the woods and
let's see what we could dowithin like four days.
No definitely.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I always brought emergency rations, like those
crappy, you know those chalkylemon bar things.
I always brought those becauseit's the last thing you're
actually going to want to eat.
You would rather and I thinkmost people who've ever eaten
that kind of crap or mres rightyou have the uh, the beef mac
and cheese, which is probablythe only edible one, and
(35:36):
everything else is justdisgusting.
So most people that I knew withthe mres or the emergency
rations would rather be hungrythan eat that crap, especially
because the lemon bars make youso damn thirsty and you don't
want to be drinking all yourwater just because you're
thirsty.
So I'd rather be hungry thanthirsty or eating garbage.
So you carry it with you justto make sure that you don't go
(35:59):
absolutely hungry, but it reallydoes give you the incentive to
what do they call it?
Put on your try-hard pants.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I actually would find it very fun for us to all get
out to the forest and kind oflike TJ said, just to see what
we could do Also just a GoProwith like 20 batteries.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, it'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Fucking film it, because I feel like we would
very quickly.
I am pretty actually confidentthat we would very quickly get
the necessities figured out, theessentials, and then at that
point it's like what do we build, what do we do?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
also no tent, let's build a giant fire, let's fuck
around.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, no tent no tent , just sleeping bag you know, I
don't even think I would do asleeping bag, I think I would do
a hammock.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I think, yeah, bring in a tarp and then we could
create like a kind of teepee orlike a kind of long teepee kind
of house thing and then use thetarp to cover it for protection
from rain.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
But that's it.
Yeah, otherwise I would.
I would prefer a hammock.
I want to be off the ground buteven then we can.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Um, I mean, I've seen you can get sticks and mud and
leaves to create a sort of roofthat'll protect you from rain
yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I mean there's what he should have done.
He should have gotten the palmleaves, and he should have
gotten like I don't know a lotof his fucking, just dirt, wet
sand, whatever the fuck.
Paste it all that shit.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
A lot of his buildings were very minimalistic
, um, but like I said, I thinkhe was really relying on the
cave oh yeah, ultimate shelterwhich is why I me personally I
would have gone the route ofburning right, Fire, fire, fire.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I would have been burning all the wet stuff that I
could, making as much smoke, asmuch visible noise.
If you will Right, Look overhere.
Look over here, Becauseshipping captains, when you're
going over, one thing thatyou're not used to seeing is
fire out in the middle of theocean yeah you see smoke, it's
gonna draw attention.
What's?
Over there um, nothing'ssupposed to be over there.
(37:53):
We need to see that's a fireyou know 100 fires don't break
out in the middle of the ocean.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's a ship, it's a an island, and I think he would
have been found if he would havejust went fucking crazy, you
know even if he, if he just hada fire on that first time that
that boat came by at night, ifhe just had a fire, then he
could have definitely signaledthem okay, okay, josh, all right
, you must acknowledge the joshand the josh says I'm in on this
(38:21):
camping trip that, that a fourpeople would be great well,
nerdy vet says too.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
I say a bunch of us do the camping.
Do you think that you got with?
Speaker 1 (38:31):
the uh the chick at the end.
I hope so, I hope so I thinkthat's what they're building up
towards because, if you noticed,because she was so in him in uh
in russia she was her husbandwas cheating on her right.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
And then at their little farm they had it was like
his name and her name, and thenwhen it was the end, one of the
names were cut out, so I thinkbitch is single shit.
Like hey, you saved my lifegirl.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Okay, hold on.
Here's a way she was talking tohim.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Nerdy added something which is really cool here.
Nerdyvet says I say a bunch ofus do the camping with a $60
budget and we make a bug out bag.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Ooh, that'd be interesting, That'd be very fun.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Real question If we turned Wilson around, do you
think there's a little holecutting it?
Speaker 2 (39:18):
What are you saying right now?
Damn, not at first, dude.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Not at first, but tell me.
Not at first, but do you think?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
That thing was flat later.
Do you think that if we?
Speaker 3 (39:26):
turn.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Wilson around there's a hole, maybe like an inch
maybe two wide I don't know.
He seemed a little distraught.
Yo, he had a volleyball at theend, bro, he misses it.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Wilson was deflated towards the end.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I would like to.
I hear what you're saying, I'munderstanding, I'm picking up
what you're putting down.
I'm going to say God, I hopenot, because that feels, I
imagine would feel very painful.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
He flips it around and calls it Kelly.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, whilst looking at the picture that he drew on
the wall.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Right With that hairstyle on Wilson.
That kind of looked like reallyweird Michael.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Jackson.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
It was so bad, that was so funny.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
She's much prettier in real life.
Why'd you even draw her?
You got a picture right there.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
I know I'm like he has a picture right there, but I
mean, I guess, to fill time youknow, sometimes someone gets
lonely.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
He literally had a volleyball in his front seat at
the end bro, I definitely thinkhe was doing whatever he needed.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
And see, I think that's probably the hardest part
to acknowledge is you have toknow?
I think it was old school ClintEastwood who was quoted as
saying a man's got to know hislimitations.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
No, that wasn't Clint Eastwood, that was the Duke.
A man's got to do what a man'sgot to do.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
That was the Duke A man's gotta do.
That was the day a man's gottaknow his limitations right.
So you gotta know when yourmind is about to snap and you
gotta do whatever you have to do.
And I think this guy was a gooddepiction of that when, when he
was pushing himself too far, ifyou will, he did whatever was
necessary to make himself levelagain, if that makes sense yeah,
(41:09):
I think I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I like you.
I think you called them anchorsearlier.
I think that's a good word forit.
There was wilson was definitelyone of them.
Um, I think I probably alsowould have taken maybe about a
week to start talking to thefootball.
I don't know, I would like tothink, maybe a little bit longer
no.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
I would have been talking right away.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
This could have gone way darker out.
He could have just startedtalking to the dead body.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, I'm very glad that the dead body did what was
done with it.
Can we bring up a past?
Speaker 3 (41:40):
episode.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
That was the Night Eats the World.
I thought you were going tobring up warm bodies.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
No, that was the Night Eats the World Fucking
French people.
That girl broke in, he blastedher, but in his mind she was
alive.
Until he went back in the roomand saw like oh no, none of this
happened.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
So how does that relate, though?
What do you?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
So if Chuck would have gone and started talking to
the body like oh yeah, okay, hewould imagine him alive,
imagine like I feel like thatwould have been a yeah, fucking
crazier movie.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
It would have been a much darker tone, I think let's
get a.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Let's get a psychological thriller fucking
Castaway with Tom Hanks as he isnow.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Older Tom Hanks.
Chuck Nolan gets stuck again,that'd be hilarious.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Oh my God, castaway 2 .
Speaker 1 (42:39):
That'd be so messed up, that'd be a crazy movie.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
You guys both agree.
I think I agree with you too,Castaway 2 would have been crazy
.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
I understood Chuck's reasoning for not opening the
packages right away.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
The crazy movie.
You guys both agree.
I think I agree with you too.
I understood.
I understood chuck's reasoningfor not opening the packages
right away.
But I think I agree with withyou guys in the more logical
thing to do.
You're in this situation.
I'm opening up packages.
The second I get them.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I'm using everything at my disposal like exactly
cardboard and the fucking bubblewrap which he did use.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
He used the bubble wrap to like address his leg
wound and whatever yeah, butwhich I I kind of like that I I
don't think I would have usedbubble wrap, but that's, that's
interesting now I will tell yousomething that I I did not fully
understand, and now I get it.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Um, did you know that cauterizing a wound is not
necessarily the right thing todo?
Even if you're bleeding quite abit, you can cause infection by
doing it.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Well, you got to clean it first right, and then
you cauterize it.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
He couldn't clean it.
So, you got to let it bleed, soit pusses and removes the
infection.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Because I mean, that's kind of the thing with
cauterizing is that if you sealit and it has all that bacteria
in it, you've just sealed it allin the wound.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Right.
So yeah, you do have to cleanit first and then you cauterize
it as much as it would hurt.
You got to just go in the oceanright there and just fucking
scrub it.
Speaker 3 (43:59):
Yeah, I mean, he did try, didn't he Like he got?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
salt water on it, but I don't know that he he clearly
didn't die of an infection,Right.
So you know he did something,right.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
That was something I was thinking about Between the
tooth, the hand and the leg.
I can't believe he didn't dieof infection at some point.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
See if it was me, a Gen X raising man, who rubbed
some dirt on it.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I'm not going to lie.
I've had some bad cuts on somereally nasty things at work.
I've had some nasty water getuh, splashed up in my eyes and
my mouth and whatnot, and fluidsthat I don't I like to imagine.
I don't know what it is andjust keep on moving we're gonna
pretend they're not dog fluids,it's just.
(44:39):
I don't know what it is justdirt, just dirt, just dirt uh
and I've yet to like get anycrazy illness or infection or
whatnot.
I sliced my thumb so good on oneof our drain grates.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Floor drain.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, an outdoor yard drain, grate.
It's where all the poop, vomitand pee goes over it when it
goes into the drain.
I sliced my fingers so good onthat and I washed that shit so
much.
And when you guys were I thinka previous episode we were
talking about I was like if Ihad a deep wound, I just put a
(45:16):
bunch of alcohol on it.
And you guys were like, oh you,I think you underestimate how
much that would hurt.
And I was like the alternativeis lose your hand so I'm like I
was spraying my hand out is thatgash?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
I think he could have used uh charcoal from the fire
to that's.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
That's a good point too shoving that guy just looked
it up and said it is used forit is in wounds, sometimes
because it interesting.
It helps with bacteria orwhatever it absorbs the bacteria
and, yeah, it prevents yourbody from absorbing it.
It is more absorbent than yourbody, so it goes to the charcoal
I wonder if that would give himlike a tattoo, that's it.
(45:53):
I mean, like after it heals youmake a really good point, though
, with all the wood that hewould be burning if we were out
in a in a woods scenario likethis.
We're near a stream.
Uh, I'm already of the opinion.
We've talked about this on thepodcast.
You don't take water out of astream without boiling it,
filtering it, filtering it andboiling it, and the reason why
(46:13):
is because you don't know what'supstream, unless you get to the
mouth of the spring.
If you find the mouth of thespring, you can drink directly
out of that and it'll beperfectly safe.
But anything else that youdon't know where the source is,
you don't want to do that now,is it true that you should drink
at like, um, like.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Not when I say waterfall, don't think huge, but
like little drop-offs in theriver.
Is that the best spot to getthe water?
Speaker 3 (46:39):
it's the most convenient spot, but it's in
anywhere that there's anupstream.
You're gonna have the samesituation.
You want to filter and boil andif we were in this situation
out in the woods like that, we'dbe burning wood.
You'd have plenty of charcoalyou have.
What you would want to do isdeprived oxygen setting.
You make small amounts of oflittle twigs.
(47:01):
Stuff like that fill into likethink like an altoids container
that are just a fucking punch.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
A couple of holes in it a coke.
Can something like that fillinto like think like an altoids
container?
That are just a fucking punch acouple of holes in it, a coke
can something like that?
Speaker 3 (47:09):
just a couple of holes in it.
Set it right in the fire, letit burn for hour and a half.
You pull that out, you get theuh, the charcoal out.
You crumble it all up.
That's your filter.
You can put that, wrap that ina cloth, put it at the bottom of
a two liter bottle and pour allthe water in.
Let it filter right on out.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
It'll be nice and clean and if you had no fire you
could drink that in his case, Iwould be collecting all the
water off of, like the runofffrom the mountain whenever it
rained that that like it waspouring into the cave and such
you know.
Speaker 3 (47:38):
But didn't he use leaves?
Didn't he like drink out ofleaves?
Speaker 1 (47:41):
yeah and coconuts yeah, but I would definitely
have like a very intricate watercollection system if I was.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
I agree, I agree.
It would have, and I don't knowhe must have because they
didn't bring coconuts.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Right and he just like poked holes in them.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
I think he was just meat in there.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
I think how did he get the meat cups.
Speaker 1 (48:02):
Oh, because he had fully sealed coconuts that just
had a hole on top.
How do you get the meat out ofthere?
I feel like that would start toferment and get gross.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
It would, and he definitely would have had to get
the meat out.
I mean, I could sit there.
He had nothing but time on hishands.
Right, you get a nice solidstick, get it inside and start
grinding up the meat and pullingit out and eating it.
And you're just taking yourtime to pull it out and then you
take it, go down to the oceanand wash it out with the salt
water as much as you can, andthen fresh water rinse and
(48:31):
you're ready to go yeah that's Imean you're just talking about.
He had four years, nothing buttime that?
Speaker 2 (48:36):
that's kind of the thing I think about.
Is he?
He had nothing else to doexcept survive, which is why I
think it's crazy that he waitedas long as he did to make a fire
.
But yeah, he had nothing buttime on his hands, like that's
why I think it'd be interestingfor all of us to get out into
the woods and just start doingshit, because I think I think we
(48:57):
would get the essentials out ofthe way pretty quickly, and
then at that point it's just wegot all this time.
What are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (49:02):
So that moves on to the next point that I'd like to
make.
That I think is reallyimportant in a survival
situation like this is anotherpsychological anchor is
developing a routine.
You've got to create a routinefor yourself because you can't
just sit, you can't just that'slike I don't know if you know
this, this uh rumor, but polarbears run themselves to the
(49:25):
point of absolute zero energyleft.
If they don't catch food, theydig a hole in the snow, lay in
it and die.
And I think if you're in thiskind of a situation, you have
that risk that you're just goingto lay down and accept your
fate.
Now, I don't think that's.
I don't take that lightly and Idon't say that easily that
(49:45):
you're just going to literallylie down but you're giving up If
you don't develop a routine foryourself and give yourself
checklists, items to do, chores.
If you will, you have to giveyourself things to do and it has
to be relevant, important stufftowards your survival to keep
you going, and you have to do itright.
You have to keep making fireevery day.
You can't let that fire go out.
You have to keep you going andyou have to do it right.
You have to keep making fireevery day.
(50:07):
You can't let that fire go out.
You have to keep filling it up.
You got to keep going andcollecting more wood.
You have to keep collectingwater.
You have to keep getting yourfood.
So it's getting those.
Developing those routines isgonna ensure your survival for
longer.
Wow, is that the island?
Speaker 1 (50:24):
That is, do cast away , that's a company that sends
you 150 euros a night.
That's 170 dollars per night.
170 times 3 if we were to stay3 nights, that's 510 dollars For
all 3 of us.
510 dollars times 3, that's1500 dollars.
Y'all got 1500 dollars.
Let's go do cast Away realquick.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Let's go real quick.
Let's go to Indonesia, causethat's.
Let's go do Castaway real quick.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Let's go to Indonesia , because that's where that one
is.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, that's not even including the plane flight.
Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
Isolation level high.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
I think there's some good spots between here and
Washington.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I'm pretty sure there's plenty of islands in
Washington also.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
I was imagining I thought you were talking about
islands and I was like I thinkthere's a lot of land in between
.
Speaker 3 (51:12):
What I would say about going all the way up to
Washington.
I will admit I am completelyignorant of the wildlife and the
terrain.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
We've got deer, we've got bears, you guys have
grizzlies, huh.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
They got grizzlies.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
yeah, We've got rabbits and shit.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
It's pretty much it.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
It's just those three animals.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Do you have black bears and grizzlies?
I?
Think we only have Let me look,I think it would be primarily
grizzlies.
I think the black are isolatedto California and maybe lower
Oregon.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
I'm glad we have black bears.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
Lazy fucks Black and grizzly bears.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, it could be far worse.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
You have both Shit.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
Eh not that bad.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
Just remember if you can't cover a grizzly with your
thumb, you're too close.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
I can take on at least three.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Play dead with a grizzly.
Be loud with a black bear.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
You guys have wild chicken up there uh, I fucking
never seen one, do we I?
Speaker 3 (52:08):
don't know, that's what I'm.
I'm reading here on the chatnerdy says so squirrels, but I
think squirrels are everywherein the union, grouse.
Okay, the one that I learnedfrom um, from luke, of the
outdoor boys, is, uh, ptarmiganyeah, which that looked like a
tasty little bird, man.
Speaker 1 (52:26):
He made that up.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Little 22.
Speaker 1 (52:32):
We're, we're, we're everybody listening, you can
tell we're getting tired, so Ithink it's time yeah.
We are really just talkingabout random shit For for the
announcement of the winner,before I announce who the winner
is.
Boys, what's your next movie?
Speaker 2 (52:51):
man, you know what I don't like?
The way that you choose thewinner.
Speaker 3 (52:55):
I'm not picking a movie I'm definitely going to be
picking a zombie movie.
I was looking over a wholebunch on amazon prime and my
problem was I couldn't decidewhich one I think I want to make
you guys watch.
Uh, I think it's just calledzombie apocalypse it's the one
that has ving rames in it.
It is like it is really, reallygood for being a really bad
(53:20):
movie, but it's like they werejust.
They were just dollars short ofit being an extremely good
movie.
So you get to see what thedifference in budget does to a
movie.
But Ving Rhames really carriesthe cast.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
Alex, would you like to?
Speaker 1 (53:39):
give our socials.
Speaker 3 (53:41):
Yes, everybody, make sure you go check us out on our
socials on tiktok, instagram,facebook, youtube, rumble I
always forget about rumble.
We do have a rumble.
I don't know what's on it.
Haven't done anything to it.
Sorry about that, buteverything is under.
Will you survive the podcast?
Just give us a search.
You can find us on x bysearching at alex and eric.
(54:03):
Sorry, tj, that was made a longtime ago and we haven't
restarted it.
It's okay.
Please, when you go to oursocials, help us out.
Go check out the profiles, lookat the videos, like, follow,
share.
Do all of that good stuff.
Help us reach the masses.
You don't want to miss out onthis information.
It could save your life.
(54:24):
If you're out stuck on adeserted island somewhere,
you'll be like, hey wait, Iremember I listened to that
podcast.
Will you survive the podcast?
Speaker 2 (54:33):
and we'll be there with you yeah, when you're on
the island, you can just put onour episodes because you have
them downloaded on your phone,obviously, clearly, and then
you'll be able to listen to allof our episodes while you're
stranded on a desert island.
Speaker 3 (54:48):
That's what I meant.
Speaker 1 (54:52):
Eric, who do you think won?
Speaker 2 (54:55):
I feel pretty confident.
I think I won Alex.
Who do you think?
Speaker 1 (54:59):
won.
Speaker 3 (55:00):
Clearly I won.
I read that long-ass storyline.
I tried keeping you guys onpoint the whole time true.
I was trying to keep us offpoint and I read those socials
like a master.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Eric winner speech.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Oh, wow, wow the guy who defied you and wouldn't even
he respects that oh you, son ofa bit Josh.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
What did he say?
Speaker 3 (55:29):
I give three points to Eric for being a rebel.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Let's go Wow, you kind of got, you kind of lost by
a landslide, yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
No, I didn't.
Who wants to?
Speaker 2 (55:40):
see Eric sleeping.
I appreciate the win.
I won't let you down, coach.
Speaker 3 (55:48):
You've already let him down.
They had us in the first half.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
TJ has pictures of me sleeping.
That's not true.
And yeah, I'm not 100% surewhat we're going to do do next
week, but I do have some stuffplanned, so I just have to pick
from something.
Speaker 3 (56:11):
But yes, thank you for the win, appreciate it so
just so you know, nerdy, if youwere in the constitution it
would matter, but as it is, onlyI can be grateful for what you
tried to do here.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
Nerdy says 10 to alex for knowing survival stuff yeah
, and I should try, nerdy, Iknow survival stuff too.
Speaker 3 (56:28):
You don't know, dick.
Thank you all for listening totoday's episode.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
It has been a blast.
It is very hot in this room.
I'm in.
I am sweating fucking balls.
It is going to be 90 degreestomorrow.
That's hotter than where youguys are.
Speaker 2 (56:45):
We had like 100 recently.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
We did.
Speaker 3 (56:48):
Yeah, it was like 90 today.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
I just looked up the weather for y'all.
It's going to be fucking like80s, anyways 78 actually it's
going to be so hot 78 tomorrow.
Thank you, all for listening.
This has been the Will youSurvive podcast.
It has.
Make sure you do check us outon all of those socials and
other listening platforms andmake sure to rate us on spotify.
It really does help.
They will.
Um and yeah, until next time.
(57:13):
Stay alive and don't hit yourtooth out with the ice skate and
if you are stranded, make afire.
Thank you.
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