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A ghost that loathes clocks, a sugar daddy who pays well for eerie “favors,” and a Grand Canyon hike that splits a friendship—tonight’s mix blends chills, laughs, and a debate you’ll want to weigh in on. We kick off with a haunted-home confession that reads like a bad roommate story: windows thrown open in the rain, food containers mysteriously unsealed, and antique timepieces dead on arrival. It’s spooky, but it also opens a conversation about how simple sounds—ticks, drips, creaks—can haunt your head long after the lights go out.

Then we wade into a modern urban legend: a too-good-to-be-true arrangement where the money is real and the rules are stranger. Lock the door twice. Avoid faucets at specific hours. Don’t answer unless Marvin calls. If the hallway closet is open, sleep in the library. And for the love of your future, keep the TV on static. It’s folklore disguised as a checklist, and forgetting a single line triggers a razor-clean twist that reframes every errand, every message, every glance at the quiet screen.

We close by trading campfire chills for real-world stakes with an all-day Grand Canyon hike in triple-digit heat. Two trained hikers let a fitter-looking friend join late and then leave her mid-descent when she lags. Was that ruthless or responsible? We unpack safety culture, group duty, and why muscles don’t equal endurance, drawing parallels from scuba to mountain runs. The consensus: in high-risk environments, you plan, you check each other’s gear, you set turn-back points, and you don’t gamble with someone else’s margin for error.

If you love haunted stories with a human core, high-tension moral puzzles, and a few sharp laughs along the way, you’ll feel right at home. Hit follow, share with the bravest person you know, and tell us: which rule would you have broken—and which one would you never forget?

Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:26):
Hello, survivors, and welcome to Will You Survive
Reads Reddit.

SPEAKER_02 (00:32):
The podcast.

SPEAKER_00 (00:36):
You see, I switched it up on you guys.
I'm joined here by my co-hosts,Alex, and TJ.
That's me.
They are actually my listenerstoday.
I'm gonna tell creepy, scarystories.
Not exclusively, but mostly.
I have a bunch of Reddit storieshere that I want to read you

(00:58):
guys and get your guys' opinionsor thoughts on.
Um, and this is in the spirit ofHalloween.
Let's read our first story.
So this comes from uh seriousRedditors who have lived in a
haunted house.
What are your most unexplainableparanormal experiences?

SPEAKER_03 (01:17):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18):
This person writes I lived in a house for about five
years that was haunted, but notin a malicious way, in a shitty
roommate kind of way.
I'd come home to the windows onthe second floor being open when
it was raining, to foodcontainers being open in the
fridge that I hadn't touchedyet.
And the worst was that the ghosthated clocks.

(01:39):
She hated them.
I had antique cuckoo clocks thathad worked for 50 years that
would just stop.
Brand new wall clocks that atethrough batteries like it was
candy.
My watch ended up on the floorone morning, the crystal
shattered, even though I knew Islept with it on.
The one that pissed me off themost was that I got a brand new

(01:59):
Kit Kat clock for Christmas, andthe bitch threw it off the wall.
What?
I was cooking and out of thecorner of my eye saw the cat
freaking fly.
Turned around and it was acrossthe kitchen broken, and it was
brand new.
Man, she was a bitch.

SPEAKER_03 (02:16):
I mean, can you blame it though?

SPEAKER_00 (02:19):
Well, oh, that's actually funny.
Some somebody said, um, uh,where did they say?
Uh I can't find it, butbasically there was a commenter
who was saying, uh, can youblame her?
I can't sleep with clocks on.
I also find it funny that sheknew it was a she.

SPEAKER_03 (02:39):
I don't like clock.
I don't like clocks.
Like actual, actual clocks, likegrandfather clocks, cuckoo
clocks, noise-making clocks.

SPEAKER_02 (02:48):
I it pisses me off.

SPEAKER_03 (02:50):
It's it's annoying.
It's like it's like a drip.
It would be like listening to adrip all night long.
Yeah, it could be rhythmic.
And I mean, I mean, a clock isgonna be rhythmic, right?
But oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (03:04):
That's so interesting.
Do I like that?
I had a fish tank in my room fora while, and I love that sound.

SPEAKER_03 (03:10):
That's okay.
Water is okay.

SPEAKER_02 (03:12):
A clock, a ticking.
You ever had a watch youcouldn't find in your house and
it would just randomly beep?

SPEAKER_00 (03:18):
Like every hour?

SPEAKER_02 (03:19):
I've literally had that happen.

SPEAKER_03 (03:21):
I've I've never had that particular thing happen,
but I have had the I would callit, like I don't know what made
the noise.
I still don't know what made thenoise, but it was perhaps a
water heater or something.
It would make that like afterthe metal cools on uh you know

(03:42):
fire hitting metal, and it'sthat yeah, the the metal like
shrinking.
It just drove me out of my mind.

SPEAKER_02 (03:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (03:53):
I yeah, I don't mind the like a ticking clock or
something.

SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
As long as it's not like unbearably just like I feel
like grandfather clocks andcuckoo clocks are that.

SPEAKER_00 (04:06):
Cuckoo clocks I hate.
I mean, he said it was a cuckoocuckoo.
Oh yeah, I I despise cuckooclocks.
I do like a grandfather clock.
I like the big chime at at 12.
Now, with that said, if thatgoes off in the middle of the
night, I am freaked out.

SPEAKER_03 (04:20):
But they do go off in the middle of the night, they
go off every hour.

SPEAKER_00 (04:23):
I I had a neighborhood friend who had a
giant grandfather clock, and Iremember we were we were doing
like uh just a late night movienight, and it hit midnight and
it went off, and I was like,that is the most terrifying
thing I've ever seen in my life.
Like that that just made me feelso unsafe in this otherwise very
safe home.

SPEAKER_03 (04:40):
It's uh I don't like grandfather clocks.
I don't.
I I think it's it's a coolconcept.
I think it's very cool whenhouses have them.
I would never have one, even ifI had the money to.

SPEAKER_02 (04:51):
Okay.
And and on that note, fuck BigBen.
Big ass grandfather.

SPEAKER_00 (04:56):
The biggest of grandfather clocks.

SPEAKER_03 (04:58):
It doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_02 (05:00):
Doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_03 (05:00):
Big Ben, but it's why are you guys talking about a
clock that doesn't exist?
Well, the same AI.

SPEAKER_00 (05:05):
The same reason we talk about like Lord of the
Rings or or Harry Potter.

SPEAKER_03 (05:09):
Or or birds.

SPEAKER_00 (05:10):
All those made up stories about that made up
place.

unknown (05:14):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (05:15):
Like people talk like that.
Come on.

SPEAKER_03 (05:17):
Fine.
Don't try to say aluminium.

SPEAKER_00 (05:19):
Yeah, that makes me irrationally angry.
Because they're right and I hateit.

SPEAKER_03 (05:24):
They're not right.

SPEAKER_00 (05:26):
Uh next up, from the same subreddit, somebody says,
My uncle's house out on a veryeastern part of New York was
said to be haunted due to thefamily that used to own it in
the 1800s, decided not to giveit to the stableman and stole
sold it instead.
He and the maid were said tohave haunted the place.
We always used to joke that youwould hear people or things

(05:47):
moving at night, but since thehouse is so old, we we used to
just laugh it off.
Uh, my uncle's friend had herand her sister stay over the
house one night, and the friendnoticed a maid bringing towels
down the stairs when she woke.
She saw the maid again bringingwhat looked like a percolator
down the stairs.
She was so impressed by my unclehiring staff.

(06:08):
He's a neurologist in New YorkCity, so he had a habit of
spending a little bit extra.
She went back to bed and woke uplater downstairs to see my uncle
and his friend just chatting.
She asked where the maid wentand she thought that the maid
was cooking breakfast.
My uncle had no idea what shewas talking about and asked what
she looked like.
The sister explained and helaughed, walking her to the

(06:29):
living room and pointing to anold picture.
She said that was the woman.
My uncle replied, Yeah, sheshe's been dead for about a
hundred years.
Oh which I I have to saysomething.
To just laugh and be like, Oh,you saw the ghost.
I don't know if that's thereaction I would want.

SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
Why are all ghosts just like old ass people?
Why why are they all from the1800s?
Like what I want to see somelike 80s ghosts, you know?

SPEAKER_00 (06:57):
I would love to see a 90s ghost.
Alright, moving on to our nextone.
Uh this one is from No Sleep.
Uh and it's called My SugarDaddy Asks Me for Weird Favors.
This is a very, very popularone.
TJ knows this one.

SPEAKER_03 (07:10):
This is a very weird very what?

SPEAKER_00 (07:11):
This is a very popular one.
I know this one! I think OkayWade.
I I I I figured TJ would knowthis one.
So his Tinder profile said hewas 45, but he looked to be in
his early 30s at most.
Looking for a sugar baby.
$700 weekly, no sex.
It sounded too good to be true,but as a broke university

(07:34):
student, I was willing to takemy chances.
I swiped right and Tinder let meknow it was a match.
His message came seconds later.
Hey there, sweetheart, smileyface.
I cringed at that word, I hatedit, but$700 was$700, so I sucked
it up and replied, Hey, winkyface.
His name was Jack, and he toldme he owned his own business,
although he never specified whatkind of business it was.

(07:56):
We talked for a while before heasked me for my Venmo to send me
the first payment.
After a few minutes, I get thenotification.
I stared at the$700 for at least20 minutes, expecting to wake up
from a dream at any second, butit wasn't a dream.
You still there?
I clicked on the message.
Yeah, sorry, if you don't mindme asking, what are you looking

(08:18):
for in return?
I stared at the chat until hereplied, I'm just looking for
you to do a few favors for me.
That sounded like it was goingto be sexual to me.
Like what?
For example, the first thing Ineed you to do is pick up a
delivery for me.
That sounded innocent enough,but I was still expecting there
to be some kind of twist.
$700 to pick up a package?
Come on, even I wasn't thatnaive.

(08:39):
From the post office orsomething.
No, I'll send you the address,but I'd rather not do this
through Tinder.
You got kick, or you can give uhor you can give me your number.
Do you know what kick is?

SPEAKER_03 (08:51):
I I know I know of it.
I don't know it.

SPEAKER_00 (08:54):
It was basically a place for miners to get a bunch
of unsolicited nudes.

SPEAKER_03 (08:59):
Oh I did not know that.

SPEAKER_00 (09:01):
Yeah, there well there was like bots that like a
crap towards the end of Kick'slife, a crap ton of bots.
Because it was mostly youngpeople, people under 18 on kick.
And there was a crap ton of botsthat would just send, like it
was basically like walking downthe Las Vegas strip.
You just get a naked picturethat'd be like, hey baby.

SPEAKER_03 (09:19):
Well, I'm very glad that I don't know what kick is.

SPEAKER_00 (09:22):
Yeah, I kind of doubted.
You're a boomer.
Um how horrible would that havebeen if I was like, oh yeah, I
know.
Very familiar.
Uh so they say, Kick?
What was this?
2011?
I decided to give him my numberinstead, and he texted me the
address immediately, followed bythe address to his house where I
would have to drop off thepackage.

(09:43):
I'm not home right now, butthere's a key on the bottom of
the blue flower pot near thedoor.
Go inside and put the package onthe coffee table in the living
room.
Make sure that you lock the doorwhen you go inside the house and
then lock it again when youleave.
I grabbed my car keys and walletand got into my car, putting the
address into Google Maps.
Got it, on my way.
My phone buzzed as I backed outof the driveway.

(10:05):
He texts, I'm serious, lock thedoor both times, please.
I thought that was a littleexcessive, but I promised him
that I would.
The house looked abandoned.
It had a broken chain link fencearound it with a small door that
was hanging on to dear life.
It stuck out like a sore thumb,surrounded by houses that were a
lot nicer than the one incomparison.
You here for Jack shit?
I looked up to see a manstanding in the open doorway of

(10:27):
the house.
He took up almost the entirespace, his head skimming the top
of the doorframe.
He was huge, in height andmuscles, and his entire torso
was covered in tattoos.
Uh yeah, I I guess, I replied,not moving from my spot on the
sidewalk.
Stay right there, he said.
I did.
I actually don't think I wouldhave moved if he had asked me
to.
I looked around and realizedthat there was no one else on

(10:50):
this street.
I was a twenty one-year-oldwoman alone in the street.
I gripped my car keys.
A few minutes later, the mancame back out carrying a
cardboard box.
It was about the size of ashoebox, but stained and damp on
some of the corners.
Eric speaking, that'sdisgusting.
I would be up to it.
You don't want to touch thesoggy cardboard?
No.
Sogboard?

SPEAKER_02 (11:09):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (11:12):
Uh the guy says, Can you uh can you open your car?
He asked.
I opened the trunk, not wantingthat inside on my on my car
seats, and he set it in.
Alright, there you go, he said.
Thanks, I replied.
I walked around to the driver'sside of the door and opened the
door.
Oh, and one more thing, he said.
I looked at him.

(11:33):
Watch out, he said.
I didn't reply.
I blasted my music as I drove toJack's house, hoping it would
drown out my anxiety, but itdidn't.
I parked my car in the stonedriveway and stayed inside the
car, admiring the house.
It was a huge house, with stonepillars on the front porch and
the greenest grass I had everseen in my life.

(11:53):
I turned the car off and gotout.
I grabbed the package and walkedto the front door, getting the
key from where he had said itwould be.
I opened the door and steppedin, closing it behind me.
I thought about what he saidabout locking the door when I
got inside.
I thought that was a littleoverboard, but as I stared at
the closed door, something mademe reach out and lock it.
I walked inside, my feetcushioned by the thick maroon

(12:15):
carpet and admiring the insideof the house.
All the furniture was wooden andlooked incredibly expensive.
I would probably finish school adozen times with the money that
it took to furnish this place.
I set the package down on thecoffee table, and as I walked
back to the door, I heard aphone ringing from somewhere
inside the house.
I froze.
In my pocket, my phone buzzed,and I took it out.

(12:36):
Don't answer any calls thataren't from Marvin.
I put my phone back and followedthe sound of the phone, poking
my head into a few differentrooms before I found it in an
office.
I walked over to the desk andlooked at the caller ID.
Incoming call from Jack.
That was odd.
I grabbed my phone to look atthe message again.
I was stare I was starting toget a little bit creeped out and

(12:57):
decided I wouldn't answer justto be safe and left the house,
remembering to lock the door asI left.
I've done a few more favors forJack since then.
I drove a BMW to a random parkin another city only to get out
and drive a different car backto Jack's house.
He had me meet one of hisemployees at lunch, who then
gave me a briefcase to deliverto the house, to the first house

(13:18):
I had gone to, and told me hewould know if I looked inside.
On several occasions, he askedme to drive down to that same
house and stay with the guywhose name was Julio for a
certain amount of time.
In total, I've made around$3,500.

SPEAKER_01 (13:32):
Ah.
Jeez.

SPEAKER_00 (13:34):
So I want to stop here.
Would you guys do this?

SPEAKER_03 (13:37):
No.
No.
This sounds like transportingdead bodies and shit.

SPEAKER_02 (13:40):
High key, I might do it, but also the shit with the
weird rules creeps me out.

SPEAKER_03 (13:46):
Lock the door both ways.
Don't answer any call that's notfrom Marvin.
Uh that yeah, yeah.
Don't open the package.
I'll know.
Like what the shit's creepy.
Or don't look rather.
Don't look.

SPEAKER_02 (13:59):
It's just weird.
But I'd do it.

SPEAKER_00 (14:01):
Yeah, but I'm not gonna lie, I think I would do
it.
Because I think there's I don'tknow.
Who are you?

SPEAKER_03 (14:07):
A freaking teen girl in a horror movie?

SPEAKER_00 (14:09):
I don't know where the law stands on this, but I
feel like if I was, I'd be like,dude, I don't fucking know.
I I'm just paid to deliver this.
I have no idea what's in it.
There's pause about it.

SPEAKER_03 (14:20):
How many times do you think the police are told
that?

SPEAKER_00 (14:22):
Show messages.
This is the guy.
He's paying me to just deliverthis stuff, dude.
I think I would do it.
I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_03 (14:30):
And I mean, even with the rules$700 a week?

SPEAKER_00 (14:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (14:34):
$700 a week, you're like, look, look at how much
he's paying me to just deliverthis stuff.
Like, I'm sorry, but you knowthat you're doing something
illegal for$700 a week.

SPEAKER_02 (14:46):
No, the guy really likes me.
He was like, hey, go stay withJulio for like three hours and
then leave.
That's not that bad.

SPEAKER_03 (14:52):
Especially if I'm like, if I'm the cop, I'm gonna
be like, dude, you're really notthat hot.

SPEAKER_01 (14:58):
So Okay, first of all, fucking weird.

SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
I think you could get away with it.
I I wouldn't I just wouldn't askany questions.
Most recently, Jack asked me tostay in his house overnight.
I woke up to a text message fromhim that said, I need you to
spend the night at my house.
I hadn't ever seen him inperson, but I had talked to him
on the phone a few times.
He proceeded to tell me he wouldpay me a thousand dollars to

(15:24):
spend the night at his house,provided that I follow a few
rules.
I drove to his house thatevening.
The driveway was empty, and itit normally was, but the porch
light was on.
I walked up, unlocked the door,went inside, and then locked it
again.
Everything in the house lookedthe same.
Jack had told me over the phonethat he would leave the list of
rules on the dining room table.

(15:45):
I set all my stuff down in theliving room.
My bags looked like garbagecompared to the fancy furniture
in there.
I wandered into the kitchen andthen to the dining room.
Sure enough, there was a pieceof paper on the wooden table
held down by an empty glass.
The rules read Lock the doorwhen you come in.
Only answer calls from Marvin.
Don't turn on any faucetsbetween 9 PM and 11 PM.

(16:08):
Don't open the door for anyone,no matter who they say they are
after 10 PM.
If the door to the closet at theend of the hall is open, sleep
in the library.
If closed, sleep in any of thebedrooms.
The gardener comes at midnight.
If he starts knocking on thewindows, hide.
Turn the TV on and let it playon static through the night.
Do not forget to do this.

(16:30):
Help yourself to anything in thefridge, smiley face.
Okay.
I love that one.
Help yourself to anything in thefridge.
I'll pay you in the morning.
Good night.
I would like take the notearound.
And I would just look at it.

SPEAKER_02 (16:42):
But I I know for a fact I'd be looking at like a
bunch of them and then just missone.

SPEAKER_00 (16:47):
A thousand dollars for one night.
I'm literally doing nothing butcarrying around that piece of
paper going, lock the doors whenyou come in.
Only answer calls from Marvin.
Don't turn on any faucets 9 pm.
I'm just staying away from thefaucet.
But it like set an alarm to gooff at 9 p.m.

SPEAKER_03 (17:02):
Okay.
We're safe.

SPEAKER_02 (17:03):
If I gotta take a shit, dude, and I get a little
bit pooky on my finger, I'm notusing that faucet.
I'm not taking that chance.
I'm gonna just wipe it on thepaper top.

SPEAKER_00 (17:14):
He has wipes.
Or he has a bidet.

SPEAKER_03 (17:18):
Dude, you are just like making excuses.

SPEAKER_00 (17:20):
Does a bidet count as a faucet?
It might.

SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
Kinda, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (17:23):
Is it yeah, it would be a faucet.
I don't know.
It runs water.

SPEAKER_00 (17:26):
So yeah, I wouldn't risk it.
I don't know.
I just have poop on my hand fora moment.

SPEAKER_02 (17:32):
If Pablo the fucking gardener is outside and he's
knocking on the window, hide.

SPEAKER_00 (17:36):
Bitch, no.
That's the one I don't like.
All the other ones, I feel likeare very passive, right?
Like just make sure you do thesethings or don't do these things.
The gardener one is like, thatone feels like someone's out to
get me.

SPEAKER_03 (17:50):
No, dude.
The door.
If the door is not closed, hidein a closet.
No, no, no.
If the door is closed, sleep inany of the bedrooms.

SPEAKER_00 (17:58):
If the door to the closet at the end of the hall is
open, sleep in the library.
Or the library.
Which I guarantee you isbeautiful.
It probably looks like Bell'slibrary.
I but I don't care.
If you're enclosed, sleep in anyof the bedrooms.

SPEAKER_02 (18:10):
I don't care.
The thing with me, sleeping in arandom ass house by myself is
creepy.
I don't like being alone.
You know?
I'm so used to it.
Fuck that.

SPEAKER_00 (18:22):
Although I normally have a dog with me.

SPEAKER_02 (18:23):
Yeah, but you you you mean like apartments.

SPEAKER_00 (18:26):
No, I I've been in like big ass houses before that
are low-key pretty creepybecause it's like it's not your
house.

SPEAKER_03 (18:31):
So it's you almost feel like you're like because
I'm not that rich, so I'm like,why initiative I've done I've
done house house sitting for bighouses like that, but I'll tell
you the truth, long enough,statue limitations is gone.
I would stay until midnight,one, two, and then go home.

(18:53):
And I come back in the morning.

SPEAKER_02 (18:55):
I thought you were gonna be like I beat my dick in
every single room.

SPEAKER_00 (19:00):
I thought you were gonna say you stole stuff, but
that one's funnier.

SPEAKER_03 (19:03):
Um couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_00 (19:05):
The the only time I've ever left early, like I
left in the middle of the night,was I was house-hitting this
this it was Bon Jovi, the wienerdog.
I was house-hitting him and hertwo cats.
And this night they they brokeme.
This one of the cats had startedthis new behavior where he would

(19:26):
just stand on the bed and pisson it, and he would stare you
down while he did it like anasshole.
What?
And Bon Jovi was on a fuckingspree of peeing on everything in
the house, even with his diaperon.
He kept getting it off andpeeing, which he would never
normally do.
Wow.
It was just an awful night, andthen the final straw was I I had

(19:50):
like a horrible day at work, hada horrible time with with with
the the animals that night.
Everybody was causing problems,getting into fights, like things
that just it wasn't normallyhappening.
And then I'm like, I just wantto go to bed.
I've been up for so long.
I've been like I at that point,I think I was up for like 23
hours, and I was like, I've beenup for so long, I just want to

(20:12):
go to bed.
And then I I walk in the bedroomand I see Ozzie, the cat,
sitting on the bed.
I'm like, no.
And he pissed all over the bed.
And I was like, I fucking can't.
And I I I left.
I I think I might have taken, Ithink I took Bon Jovi here, or

(20:33):
or maybe I left him in his crateovernight, and I came and I
slept at home, and I messagedher in the morning, and I was
like, I'm so sorry.
I had to go.
I was like, I was going tofucking lose my mind.
I like I had such a horribleday, and then Ozzie pissed all
over the bed, and I had nosheets to use.

(20:53):
I couldn't find any sparesheets.
I just had to go home and sleep.
I'm so sorry.
And she was super understandingabout it.

SPEAKER_03 (21:01):
Little a-hole.

SPEAKER_00 (21:02):
Yeah, that that that sucked.
That's the only time I've everleft her.

SPEAKER_03 (21:05):
Cats are nothing but demon spawn.

SPEAKER_00 (21:07):
But he was a cute cat.
Okay, continuing the story.
I made sure to follow all therules.
To be honest, I was regrettingmy decision, but seeing as I was
already there and I was gettingpaid, I decided to stay anyway.
I figured as long as I followedall the rules, I'd be perfectly
fine.
Still, it felt a little odd.
What was this?

(21:28):
A haunted house?
Nevertheless, I lounged aroundthe house for a few hours as I
was planning on going to sleeparound nine, since that's the
time that all the weird shitwould begin to happen.
At 8 50, I brushed my teethusing the faucet for the last
time before 9.
I would not use the faucetbetween like 8 30 and 11 30 to
be honest.

SPEAKER_02 (21:48):
I'm like, damn, what if it's nine PST or EST?
Shit.

SPEAKER_00 (21:53):
Yeah, like I I he well, he should have specified.
I checked the closet in thehallway, and upon seeing that it
was open, I moved my stuff intothe library and got ready to
sleep on the couch.
I locked the doors too, just incase, and laid on the couch,
scrolling through my phone.
I hadn't gotten any moremessages from Jack, and I
started to think up scenariosand reasons as to why he had

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such strict peculiar sets ofrules in his house.
I had dozed off at some pointbecause at exactly 1016 PM I was
woken up by the doorbellringing.
I was about to get up to check,but then I remembered the rule.
Don't open the door for anyone,no matter who they say they are,
after 10 PM.

SPEAKER_01 (22:33):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (22:34):
I stayed on the couch, trying not to move,
paranoid that they would heareven the slightest of sounds.

SPEAKER_03 (22:39):
Can I pause you for one second?
TJ's absolutely right.
I already fucking forgot thatrule.

SPEAKER_00 (22:44):
That's what I'm saying.
I'm just too many rules.
She's doing pretty good atremembering that.
That one I would know.

SPEAKER_03 (22:49):
But I mean, could I get what you were saying?
Because I'm sitting therechilling out, scrolling through
my phone, right?
And everything's placid.
There's nothing going crazy.
And then all of a sudden there'sa knock at the door, and I'm
just like, get up, walk over tothe door, open it up.
Like, I just I just felt myselfdo that right now.
And it wasn't until you werelike, and then I remembered the
rule.
I'm like, oh my god, Icompletely fucking forgot that

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was even a rule.

SPEAKER_00 (23:12):
That is crazy.
Even at home.
Well, at home, no, but I don'tanswer the doors.
If I'm at somebody else's place,I am not answering the door once
it's nighttime.
Why are you knocking on thishouse?
I'm not the owner.
There is nothing, no informationthat I can give you right now.
You need to come back anothertime.
It is too late.

SPEAKER_02 (23:32):
It's any time.

SPEAKER_00 (23:33):
Home, if somebody knocks on my door, I'm thinking
maybe a neighbor needssomething.

SPEAKER_03 (23:38):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I'm thinking thesame thing.

SPEAKER_02 (23:42):
It's like, I don't give a fuck if my neighbors need
anything.
Don't fucking knock on my nextdoor.

SPEAKER_00 (23:46):
Yeah, but I mean I'm way I'm way more hesitant to
answer somebody else's door.
No, I get it.

SPEAKER_03 (23:52):
I get that.

SPEAKER_00 (23:53):
So I would I would like I would think about it like
who the hell's knocking?
And then it would click like I'manswer the door.
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (23:59):
Yeah, I'm not answering it anyway.
I don't give a fuck if you're myneighbor or my mom.
Hey, your dog's outside, a guyoutside.
I don't give a fuck.
Leave me alone.
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (24:09):
It is night.
It is dark outside.
I stayed on the couch, tryingnot to move, paranoid that they
would e hear even the slightestof sounds.
It's the police, open up.
I didn't move.
Hello?
It's the police.
Open up or we're coming in.
I'm gonna barge it again.
I would just be like, then comein.
Yeah.
I still didn't move, but I couldhear my heartbeat in my ears.

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There was silence for a whileafter that.
Then the doorbell rang again.
Hey, it's Jack, let me in.
It sounded like Jack, but still,I didn't get up.
He would have a key, wouldn'the?
Why would he need me to let himin?
This continued for almost a fullhour.
Oh, come on.
Yeah, that's a lot.
Different people would ring thedoorbell, announce themselves,
and then disappear when I didn'trespond.

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I was finally able to fallasleep, and the gardener never
came.
When I woke up the next morning,I heard someone in the kitchen.
I got up slowly and unlocked thedoor as quickly as possible,
taking my phone with me andwalking across the living room
and into the kitchen.
I stopped at the entrance andpeered in.
It was Jack.
He was standing in front of thestove, stirring something as the

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coffee machine brewed coffee onthe counter behind him.
Hey, good morning, he said whenhe saw me.
Hi, I replied nervous.
I hadn't seen him in personbefore, but he looked exactly
like his pictures online.
Scrambled eggs?
he asked, motioning to the panwith a wooden spoon.
Yeah, thanks, I replied, walkingover to take the plate from him.
I ate my breakfast and dranksome coffee in silence.

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So how was it?
he asked.
It was okay.
Nothing super freaky happened, Ireplied.
Cool, he replied.
There was an awkwardness in theroom.
I think I'm gonna go now.
I have class, I trailed off.
I didn't, but I really wanted toget out of there.
Oh no, yeah, sure.
I'll talk to you some othertime, he replied.

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I grabbed my stuff and he walkedme to my car.
I could see him standing in thedriveway staring at me as I
left.
When I got home I unpacked allmy stuff and noticed that I
still had the list with me.
I sat on my bed and read itagain.
I felt my body tense up as Irealized that I had forgotten
something.
Turn the TV on and let it playstatic through the night.
Do not forget to do this.

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Turn the TV on and let it playon static through the night.
Do not forget to do this.
Oh come on.
Do not forget to do this.
I stared at the words on thepage until they lost meaning.
Beside me, my phone buzzed,snapping me back to reality.
It was the thousand dollarpayment.
I looked at my phone and thenback at the list.
Maybe it wasn't an importantstep.

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As I was thinking this over, theone that has caps on it.
That's probably not theimportant one.
Uh as I was thinking this over,a text from Jack came in.
I'm not in town right now.
I should be back next week.
So you're free from running anymore errands for me until then.
Just sent the payment.
Go do something fun.
Winky face.
I stared at the message and readit again.

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And again, and once more forgood measure.
I'm not in town right now.
I thought back to this morningand how Jack was in his house,
how he gave me breakfast.
I'm not in town right now.
Within minutes, a new text camein, this time from a number that
I didn't recognize.
Did you forget something?

SPEAKER_01 (27:21):
Winky Face?
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (27:23):
The text was followed by a picture of Jack or
whoever this version of Jack wasstanding in front of the TV.
I didn't respond.
Next came another picture.
This one from was of the outsideof my house.
It was followed by another text.
Watch out.

SPEAKER_03 (27:39):
Oh come on! See?
Forget one fucking thing.

SPEAKER_02 (27:44):
God.
I love this story.
I already knew the fuckingending.
But I was I was hoping that Iwas like, I was hoping maybe
Alex would like remember thisstuff, but he did not.
No, I didn't know this one atall, dude.

SPEAKER_00 (27:58):
I knew it would get him because I I had completely
forgotten it.

SPEAKER_02 (28:02):
It's so weird that they lay out the steps and you
somewhat remember like some ofthem, right?
But the one that literally saysdon't forget this one, you don't
remember.

SPEAKER_00 (28:14):
I think it's because right after they give the list,
she proceeds to tell you how allof the rules were applied,
except the one.

SPEAKER_02 (28:24):
Yeah, why wouldn't she just immediately turn the
TV?

SPEAKER_00 (28:27):
But that's what I mean.
Like, I would be reading thosesteps like every five minutes.

SPEAKER_03 (28:32):
I I oh my lord.

SPEAKER_00 (28:35):
It would be to a point where the the I would not
forget the static one becausethat would annoy me.
That would annoy me.
Also, static would be hard to dothat.

SPEAKER_02 (28:45):
First on the or second on the list.
Lock the door in the middle.
First on the list, lock thedoor, second on the list, turn
the TV on.

SPEAKER_03 (28:52):
Order of importance.
And then give me the rest of theshit.

SPEAKER_02 (28:55):
Lord.

SPEAKER_00 (28:56):
I'm not gonna lie.
If someone was like, look, myhouse is haunted and there's a
set of rules, but if you followthem, you'll be completely fine.
The rules fuck me up, bro.

SPEAKER_03 (29:05):
Oh my lord.

SPEAKER_02 (29:07):
The weird, strange rules, it's just like you don't
want to fuck it up, you know?
Because why would they be soweird and strange?

SPEAKER_00 (29:14):
Right.
I mean, honestly, if I readthose those those rules, there's
zero part of me that's like, Iwonder what's happening here.
Immediately I'm like, oh, okay,the place is haunted.
Okay, I want to do uh thisstory.
This is an Am I the Assholestory that got reposted onto Am

(29:34):
I the Devil?
And then said user deleted it.
But uh a lucky moderator hereput in case the story gets
deleted slash removed and has itpinned on the on the chat.
So they're not getting away thateasy.
Am I the asshole for partyingwith my friend midway through a

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Grand Canyon hike?
My My friend Crystal and I spentsix months planning and training
for a very intense all-day hikeof the Grand Canyon.
We would go down South Kaibaband up Bright Angel on Crystal's
birthday in June, which would beover a hundred degrees.
Two weeks before the hike, ourfriend Valerie said she wanted

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to join us.
Valerie looks way fitter thanus.
She does CrossFit and has asix-pack, and we assumed she
would be fine.
On the trip leading up to thehike, Valerie was eating salad
while Crystal and I werecarbloading with pasta and
pizza.
Crystal and I each brought fourliters of water, trail mix, and

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granola bars, and believedValerie had packed her bag with
the same, as uh as it was all inthe hotel room for all of us to
share when we packed up thenight before.
About half of the way down,Crystal and I realized that at
the pace Valerie was going, andthus the rest of us, we would
not finish the hike beforesundown.
We told Valerie about ourconcerns and she said we should

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just hike ahead without her, andthat she would either catch up
or if it was too much, turnback.
We asked if she was really sureabout it, and she said she was.
So off we went.
When we got to the bottom of thecanyon, we waited for about an
hour at the Colorado River, butdid not see her.
At that point we really had toget going so we would finish the
trail before nightfall.

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We tried to call her from apayphone but got her a
voicemail.
None of us had reception.
We explained the situation to aranger and they said they'd look
out for her.
When we were close to the topand it was actually already
dark, we got reception and gotmessages from her that she had
collapsed and had to stay at thelodge at the bottom of the
canyon.
The lodgers booked months out,but I guess they hold some

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emergency beds.
She would hike out the next daywith another group and said not
to worry about her.
Both Crystal and I were totallydestroyed physically, but we got
in the car, went and demolisheda pizza, then went to sleep at
the hotel.
Oddly, we found half ofValerie's water and all of
Valerie's food at the hotel.
I don't want to make too manyassumptions about her, but I

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think it's clear enough to saythat it seemed clear she didn't
know how to eat during or beforea hike, despite our guidance.
The next day, Valerie said shewould be up by 3 PM.
I was planning to pick her up,however, the one update we got
from her was that she would behours late.
6 PM rolled around and she stillwasn't up.

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I left her a voicemail lettingher know we needed to continue
on to our next hotel an houraway.
We were both feeling really beatup and I didn't think I would
have the energy to do the drivemuch later.
I told her in the voicemail thatI'd pay for her to Uber to the
hotel, just let me know how muchit was.
At around 10 PM, Valerie calledme furious.
It took her over 13 hours tohike up, and she almost didn't

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make it.
She was suffering fromsunstroke.
She said she could have diedbecause we abandoned her and we
were really selfish not to staywith her.
Am I the asshole?
Ah God.
No.
I You don't think she's theasshole.
So TJ, have you read this one?

SPEAKER_02 (33:04):
I don't know this story.
Um and I don't think she's anasshole.
Really?
You should have prepared for thefucking hike that we were doing
even when we gave you guidanceand you still didn't fucking do
the shit, you know?

SPEAKER_03 (33:18):
Yeah.
And that's kind of the otherthing is there is such a thing
as muscles for show.
Um that's kind of kind ofsomething that I I experience on
the regular.
I'm not a uh I'm not a buffdude.
I don't have gym muscles forsure.
I have a belly, all of that, butI can I can pull my own weight,

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literally.
And when you can do that, whenyou know your limitations, you
shouldn't have to explain tosomeone else.
And that's kind of the problemhere is having someone else not
tell you, like, hey, I'm notsure I would be able to do this.

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Like this is intense.

SPEAKER_00 (34:06):
Um well it was her who asked if she could join the
hike.
Like, why are you gonna ask andbe a fucking bird?

SPEAKER_02 (34:14):
That's on her, bro.

SPEAKER_00 (34:15):
I So here's so here's my perspective, and
Reddit says she's the asshole.
Reddit has labeled her theasshole, Reddit has reposted her
onto Am I the Devil.
They think she's that bad.
Now, let me add theirperspective because I do happen
to agree with this.

SPEAKER_03 (34:33):
So I'm trying to figure out who we're talking
about.
The person telling the storysounds like the the girl who
left Valerie.

SPEAKER_00 (34:41):
This is What we call them OP, original posters.
So Crystal and OP left Valerie.

SPEAKER_03 (34:48):
I don't, I don't, I I so let me go ahead, go ahead.
Like, why are you telling me togo ahead?

SPEAKER_00 (34:54):
So somebody replied, they should have said no from
the beginning.
I know plenty of fit people whohave absolutely no stamina.
Show me.
I definitely would say no to aCrossFit person unless I know
they actually hike on the side.
And as for what she brought,nope.
A girl at ASU was going to gohiking with some exchange

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students from the UK.
She canceled the hike after shesaw they only brought a small
bottle of water each.
I think everyone is an AH or isan asshole, but OOP more.
You don't leave people.
I grew up in Arizona.
ASU is my alma mater.
Every year from April toOctober, you see the daily news
about people who need to berescued or died due to exposure

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from hiking on one of the manyhiking trails peaks in the
valley.
It's tragic and entirelypreventable.
Unfortunately, it's oftentourists or people who are new
to moving to the state that findthemselves in trouble because
they underestimate the intenseheat that radiates off the rock
well into the night.
OOP thought it would be noproblem to leave someone alone
in the wilderness with noreception and where a single

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misstep can lead to a seriousinjury or death.
She did this in June when it'sridiculously hot.
The friend is equally dumbbecause doing CrossFit does not
mean that you have the enduranceto do a 12 to 15 hour wilderness
hike, let alone making poorchoices like not bringing enough
food or water.
Choices.
So Reddit's point on this isCrystal and OP had been training

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for I think they said six monthsfor this hike.
And Valerie randomly comes inand says, Oh, can I join you
guys on the hike?
If I know I've been training sixmonths for this hike, I'm going
to at least ask, hey, do youhike often?
Like, I I want you to know thisis an intense hike.

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This is not like this is notjust strolling through a forest.
Like it's going to be hundredsof degrees.
It's going to or uh over ahundred degrees.
It's going to be harsh.
Are you sure you can do this?
Well, I guess I guess thatpart's true, but this leads me
to Can I add more?
I think there's a lot of pointsin which they should have said

(37:06):
no.
Because what you guys aren'tthinking of it this way, but the
way I think of it, maybe I'mjust I I don't know.
But the way I'm thinking aboutit is if I'm going hiking with a
group, everybody is everybody'sresponsibility.
We are all looking out for eachother's safety.
If we're going halfway down thishike and we realize, oh, she's

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not gonna make it, then I'mtelling Valerie, look, dude, you
tried.
This is it, we gotta turnaround.
This is unsafe.
We gotta turn around.
I'm realizing you don't evenhave you don't have the food.
You don't have to be.
Well, that's another thing.
When you're at the hotel, weshould all be checking what
we're bringing.

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Hey, hey, do you have yourwater?
The same thing that we do whenwhen you're leaving a hotel to
go anywhere.
You have your phone, you haveyour wallet, you have your
water, you have your food, youdo you have all this stuff?

SPEAKER_03 (37:59):
I mean, I think all of that is very nice, but I
don't put it on anybody toremind me.
I don't even put it on my wifeto remind me.

SPEAKER_00 (38:09):
I think it's different when you're going to
in a to a situation which can belife-threatening, people die
doing this.
I think there's a differentlevel of caution that needs to
come with that.
This isn't just going to a waterpark, oh, I forgot my credit
card.
Fuck.
This is like, oh, you forgotyour water and now you die.

SPEAKER_03 (38:28):
So that's different.
Let me give you let me give youthe the side of it from me.
Is back in the day I was intosurfing, boogie boarding,
always, always at the beach.
I lived at the beach.
And one particular situation, meand my best friend were talking
about going, uh, there's gonnabe some harsh rips, so I don't

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want to surf, but let's take theboogie boards out with our fins,
and we'll catch some some prettygood waves out there.
And these two girls were like,Oh, can we go?
Now, I do agree with this partbecause I was like, Are you
sure?
Like, do you know what thewater's like right now?
It it's storming.
There's there's rip tides,there's currents, like you can

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get sucked out.
Oh no, I'm a really greatswimmer, I know what to do if I
get caught in a riptide.
Okay, I'm not gonna be watchingyou.
So this part I kind of getbecause I'm not gonna be
watching you, I'm gonna be doingmy thing.

SPEAKER_00 (39:29):
Yeah, that's different.

SPEAKER_03 (39:30):
My eyes are gonna be out at the horizon, so you're
sure you're you're okay.
Oh, I'm I'm fine, I'm gonna begood.
And while we're out there, um,it caught me, it actually caught
me by surprise because it was alot more chop than I was
expecting.
And I turn around and I see oneof the other girls.
Uh, there's two girls, one ofthem is on the shore hollering

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at us, look, look, look, and Iturn and I see the girl that's
in the water, she's unaware thatthe current is sucking her
toward the jetty.
And I'm watching her, I'm like,You've gotta get come come away.
And I'm waving at her, come thisway, and she's like waving at
me, and I'm like, No, look,look, look behind you, and she

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finally turns, and then panicset in.
And I saw her incapable of youjust gotta smooth strokes your
way out of here.
You've got I mean, you you'vegotta find where the current is
taking you, pressure against it.
Like you can't swim against youcan't swim against a current,
you gotta go with it withoutgoing into the rocks.

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So go toward the shore.

SPEAKER_00 (40:42):
You are sideways.

SPEAKER_03 (40:43):
I mean, we're not we're not talking about a rip
current, because rip currentwill take you out to sea.
This was the natural currents,and the currents are running uh
north-south, and they're pushingyou towards like they were
pushing her south straighttowards the rocks of the jetty.
So trying to tell her, like,either swim out to sea, which

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would probably have been safer,it's it was a shorter swim to go
out to sea than to get all theway to land.
So me and my buddy swam to her.
We were on boogie boards, so andI had both uh Churchill fins and
I had webbed gloves.
So I was able to get to herpretty quickly, and I had to
tell her, I was like, you gottagrab onto my ankle, just grab my

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ankle.
And of course, you know, shestarted panicking and she was
like trying to like climb up onthe board.
I was like, No, no, no, no, justhold on to my ankle, I will get
you out of here.
And we did, but so from thataspect, I kind of get it that
like I told her what she wasgonna get into.
But I will be honest, I don'tthink I would have felt too much

(41:50):
guilt if something terriblewould have happened to her when
I was like, You sure you knowwhat you're doing out there?
Because I'm not paying attentionto it.

SPEAKER_00 (41:57):
Another difference, well, another difference in that
is that this was their friend.
So I it my friend, I care aboutmy friend's safety.
If we're halfway through thishike and I look back and they're
not doing good, they'restruggling, and I know and I'm
looking, I'm like, hey, drinksome water, you know, eat some
food.
Yeah, and then I'm realizing sohere's another thing.
While they were carbo loading,they were watching her eat a

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salad.

SPEAKER_03 (42:20):
Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 (42:21):
So somebody else replied uh to the last comment I
read, and they said, couldn'tagree more.
I am a well above average fitperson.
I teach pole and aerial and havestamina doing that specific
activity.
I know how to eat and prepare todo well during my strength,
mobility, and aerial classes.
I have no idea how to prep for areally challenging hike in that
much heat.

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Should their friend have donemore research and m and make
sure she had done her part to beprepared?
Yes, absolutely.
Should the very experiencedhiker friends who know how
challenging what they would bedoing were to do their due
diligence and checking in withtheir friend, help them with
their prep and pack and ask themif they were only going to have
the salad and not do a carb loadup?

(43:02):
Also, yes.
If I asked to join myexperienced hiker friends for a
hike, of course I have aresponsibility to do research.
But I also don't think it'sunfair to have a certain level
of trust in my friends who knowtheir shit, that they would take
some basic steps to make to letme know if I was doing something
impractical or dangerous, andtell me no if they weren't
confident I could do it.

(43:23):
Not talking to her about thesalad and just watch her uh and
just watch her make a dangerousmistake is insane to me.
Okay, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_02 (43:31):
So that that gives me uh I don't be dipshit going
back for one, and then alsoeverybody involved is just not
you gotta care for your friendand be like, look, yeah, but I
expect my friends not to befucking dumbasses, you know?
But I I also expect for myselfto care about my friends, you

(43:53):
know, and it it it didn't seemlike she even like cared.

SPEAKER_03 (43:56):
But like on both sides, it's just well I kind of
missed I kind of missed thepoint that this was her friend.
Like I thought this was justsomebody they knew who was like,
hey, I wanna go, and they'relike, Yeah, okay, whatever.
Like, not even my friend.

SPEAKER_00 (44:11):
If you're doing this super challenging hike and
someone asks, Hey, can I go withyou?
I don't think and you say yes, Idon't think it's acceptable to
leave them.
Even if they're saying, Oh, goon without me.
As an experienced hiker, yougotta be like, No, what we're
not gonna leave you alone onthis trail where they say one
misstep and you die.

SPEAKER_02 (44:30):
No, I get all of that lifters and putting fucking
heavy ass weight on the bar andlifting it, and I'm like, All
right, your turn walking awayand then walk away.

SPEAKER_03 (44:40):
Yeah, and it's and it's funny because he gets it on
there.

SPEAKER_00 (44:44):
You've seen me do it from spotting me, and I'm like,
oh my god, I'm gonna die.

SPEAKER_03 (44:48):
No, that's the so that's the thought that came
into my head was I go back to mydays of running cross-country
when we used to train in themountains, we would do low
oxygen training, right?
You go way up.
I mean, it's the summertime, soit's not like we're running in
the snow or anything.
You're not talking about dangerof hypothermia, but you are
talking about um what is thatcalled?

(45:09):
Uh when it's hypoxia.
And if you're not used to it, ifyou're not able to deal with it,
you you can really suffer majorproblems.
Yeah, and so when you'rerunning, when you're putting
your body through this onpurpose, and because the reason
is you know, you wanna you wannabe able to run on low oxygen, uh

(45:30):
get your lungs capable ofholding more.
We used to do stuff like holdour breath while we were
running, and our rolling.
So running up in the mountainswas was something else, you
know, because your your musclesdo ferment to create oxygen.
That's what creates the lacticacid.
And so when you when you do thisstuff on a regular, you're

(45:51):
capable of handling it.
So it it does raise that pointwhere if somebody I get TJ's
point, and I think I'm I'm withyou, TJ, that both sides of this
equation are the asshole.
Because if somebody asked me,you know I'm a freaking
cross-country runner, you knowI'm pushing for Olympic levels,

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I'm trying to go for thenational qualify qualifications.
I'm trying to get a qualifier,and you say, I want to run with
you.
Well, you're you shouldn't besaying that to somebody if
you're not in my league.

SPEAKER_00 (46:30):
Well, so here's the thing.
I think the thing about hikingtrails is that it's really easy
not to look up the trail beforebecause like there's a lot of
hiking trails in LA that youcould just go do.

SPEAKER_03 (46:43):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (46:43):
Yeah, there might be one or two that you're like, oh,
it's a little more elevationthan I thought.

SPEAKER_03 (46:46):
If you guys look at our TikTok account, my wife and
I go on the uh old Los AngelesZoo Trail.
It's a nice several mile-longtrail.

SPEAKER_02 (47:00):
I was like, nope, fuck you.
I'm sitting in the car.
You'll have fun.
See, that's like, dude, we gotto the top wasn't worth it.
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (47:08):
That's someone who knows their limits.
Got halfway through and went,I'm not gonna make it.
I'm just gonna turn back now.
Yep.
Uh that I think would have beenIt's respectable.
I think what they should havedone is about do like a quarter
of the way check-in.
You know, just check in witheverybody.
How are we doing?
We feeling okay?
Do we feel like we could keepgoing, or should we turn back?
Because it's way easier to do itthen than to do it when you're

(47:30):
in the middle of it.

SPEAKER_01 (47:31):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (47:32):
So the last uh comment I'll read
says, Normal adulting rulesdon't apply when hiking the
Grand Canyon in the summer.
You check every adult's suppliesbefore you leave, and if they
don't have enough, you tell themto get more or stay at the
hotel, but they won't be goingwith you if they don't have
enough supplies.

SPEAKER_01 (47:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (47:50):
Because if they don't, you will have to give
them some of yours and put morepeople at risk, or they will
have a medical event or worse.

SPEAKER_01 (47:58):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (47:58):
And you never leave someone on the trail who doesn't
have water and isn't doing well.

SPEAKER_03 (48:04):
So all of that makes perfect sense when you put it
all in in perspective like that.
Some of those comments help mesee the the reasoning.
Because when you look at, let metake a another extreme.
When you look at scuba diving,everybody checks everybody
else's equipment.

SPEAKER_00 (48:20):
Because that's life-threatening.
It is, and that's what I mean.
But so from I think oh OP is anasshole.
Yeah, OP's a horrible person.
I think they're stupid, but Ithink like you're an experienced
hiker, you should know.

SPEAKER_01 (48:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:34):
I'm not going to like I this would be less
extreme because this isn'tlife-threatening, but as
somebody who can play music, I'mnot gonna toss a friend who's
never played an instrument onstage and be like, This is
really serious.

SPEAKER_03 (48:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:46):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Play this music.
And they're like, I don'tfucking know what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_03 (48:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:50):
Like, so even or how about this?
You're not gonna be really goodat drums.

SPEAKER_03 (48:54):
You're not gonna hand somebody who doesn't know
anything about dogs a red flagdog.

SPEAKER_00 (48:59):
That's I'm not gonna hand them a bite wrist dog and
be like, here, take care of thisdog.
Yeah, no, that's dang, that'smuch more uh comparable.
I that's just not realistic.
I get it.
I get it.
I would want to know, like, hey,have you ever handled dogs
before?
Uh do you know what you'redoing?
If a dog does this, what are yougonna do?

SPEAKER_03 (49:15):
Although we we all agree.
I think all of us are saying thesame thing about the other
person, too.
Two things can be true at thesame time.
Other person, complete dick forputting these people in that
position.
She's an idiot.

SPEAKER_00 (49:26):
I don't think she's an asshole.
I think she I think Valerie's anidiot.

SPEAKER_03 (49:29):
I think Valerie's an asshole too.
Well, no, I'm how dare you putpeople in that position.

SPEAKER_00 (49:33):
She's just an idiot because she found out oh my god,
my friends are going hiking inthe Grand Canyon.
I've always wanted to see theGrand Canyon.
Uh a nice hike.
Zero idea that this wassomething I can read here.
Well, you're nicer than me.
That's what I mean.
It's easy to just look up and tonot even look up a trail and
just be like, oh, we're gonnago.
It's true.

SPEAKER_03 (49:52):
But you're nicer than me.

SPEAKER_02 (49:54):
I know exactly what color these people are.
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (49:59):
I think that's a good thing.
You know what?
I don't even need to say it.
Everybody knows.
TJ, the names are Crystal andValerie.

SPEAKER_01 (50:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (50:08):
I know some black crystals.
That's true.
I do.

SPEAKER_02 (50:10):
But spelled with a C?
Yeah.
But the three more blackcrystals.

SPEAKER_03 (50:16):
Do they do they work at the cherry pit?

SPEAKER_02 (50:18):
The Caucasity and the way.
Hang on.

SPEAKER_03 (50:21):
Crystal is not their real name, TJ.
Listen.
When their name is CrystalChandelier.
Come on.

SPEAKER_00 (50:28):
That that's her maiden name.

SPEAKER_03 (50:30):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (50:33):
My name is Crystal.
Crystal Meth or my name is shortfor Methane.

SPEAKER_03 (50:41):
Crystal Methany.

SPEAKER_00 (50:45):
Low key a banger stage name.

SPEAKER_02 (50:50):
I feel like that would be like a a drag queen
fucking name, Hikey.
And they're just tweaked out forWashington.
Alright, guys, that concludespart one of our two-part
Halloween special.
This shit was two hours long.

(51:12):
So I cut this down about anhour.
We got a whole ass hour left ofstuff for this episode.
So I'm just gonna do two partsbecause I don't really, you
know.
I don't really care.
You get your content either way,so it's fine.
Um But yeah, I just wanted towish everybody a happy Halloween
and you know, happy holidays andall that, and I will see you

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next week with part two.
Until next time, stay alive.