Will You Survive "Signs": Crop Circles, Water, and Family Fortitude

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Graham Hess, a former reverend who lost his faith after his wife's tragic death, faces an alien invasion with his brother Merrill and two children on their isolated farm.

• Importance of situational awareness in recognizing abnormal patterns in your environment
• Animals going quiet as nature's warning system for approaching danger
• Proper shelter fortification techniques using available household items
• Everyday objects can become improvised weapons in crisis situations
• Having backup plans and escape routes is essential in any survival scenario
• Mental resilience helps maintain focus during catastrophic events
• Faith and meaning can provide strength during seemingly hopeless situations
• Small, seemingly insignificant details often become crucial survival factors

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hello survivors and welcome to another episode of
Will you Survive.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
The Podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh shit, what the fuck?
I was trying to think of the XFactor.
I forgot we're doing signs.
I was trying to think of the XFactor theme song and I forgot
it.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
No, that's Twilight Zone.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
No, what's that?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
X Factor X Files.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Did I say X Factor?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yes, I meant X Files, x Files.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
No, it's Alien Insert Alien music.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Insert Alien music Future TJ.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
And that's where it'll go.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
That was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Let me introduce myself.
I am Eric, I'm the host.
I'm the host this episodebecause I won last episode.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Hostess with the mostest.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
I am the hostess with the mostest.
Thank you, so you know what.
One point for you, tj.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Wow.
Wow, it's almost like you'reand they can't read my brain.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was going to say it's almost like you're in my
brain.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Let me introduce my co-host.
I'm joined here by none otherthan alien expert TJ.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
T-Jizzle with the nizzle.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yes, he currently has on a tinfoil hat.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I do.
It's all good conspiracy.
Everybody listen close, listenclose.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
It was very hard to wrap it around my very luxurious
hair and people with a tin foilphobia are going to be very
upset and uh followed by ourcompletely bald-headed uh.
No protection against thealiens.
Co-host uh, alex.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I have already been abducted.
I came back, I conquered.
They will not take me back.
I've been deported from thealien territories.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
He shaved his entire body, so he's smooth everywhere
and it hasn't grown back sincethat happened in 1984.
Yeah, he was probed and he'sactually immune to the the mind
virus slides off of the.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
What did it?
What got me banned was when Istarted probing them.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
They didn't like that there's a whole situation.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
When I started probing them and both my hands
were on their shoulders.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, there's a 21 pilots.
Uh lyric about that what whichfucking lyric from from lavish
oh, I see your problem is yourproctologist got both hands on
your shoulders while you'rebottomless I got, yeah, I got, I
got it now that's not my one ofmy favorite songs.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
I mean, I've to it a lot more than I did.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
TJ hated that song.
When the album first came out,one of my favorites was
devastating.
I made him listen to it so much.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Got that penny low for squeak.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Cross linoleum.
We watched the movie Signs.
That was a very naturaltransition into this.
So what do we think?
What do we think tj?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I think alex thoughts the true signs they were
looking for in the movie weresigns from god I think the true
signs were the friends we madealong the way.
That that is one of themeanings of it is, you know
there's like the signs.
And then there's him lookingfor a sign.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
There's the signs, and then there's him looking for
a sign which makes perfectsense.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
I would like to go ahead, alex, and I'll jump in
because I got some shit to say.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well, I'm going to say preacher Graham Hess loses
his faith in God after his wifedies in a brutal car accident.
He lives with his children andbrother in a farmhouse.
Crop circles start to appear intheir cornfields.
Graham dismisses them asmischief by miscreants.
After hearing strange noisesand watching news coverage on
crop circles appearing all overthe world, the family grows

(04:13):
suspicious of alien activities.
Now they must stick together asa family and believe to survive
and escape the ordeal um, yeah,I had something to say and I
forgot.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Tj, you said you had shit to say okay.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
So if these aliens were so smart, um, why if they
are not, you know, if, if wateris acid to them?
Basically, why in the fuckwould you go to a planet in
which it is 70 water andeverything on it is also made of
water, including what's in theplants, in the people, oh yeah

(04:51):
yeah, can I bring that air?

Speaker 1 (04:53):
follow up to that.
Yeah, a follow-up to that.
Uh, two things.
One if it rains, they're fuckedso um and two.
Hang on how.
How the hell did they not godown to farmland and not see
those giant sprinklers shootingout water and go?
Oh hell, nah, true, where.
Where was that at?
There were sprinklers most far.

(05:15):
No, I'm saying farms.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Have those, though they have the ones that go in
the actual goal, not they movenot in those areas not in the
midwest not in no most of mostfarmlands actually opera operate
off of natural irrigation.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
They plant according to what the the rain uh forecast
is for the year they're goingall around the world correct.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
That's what I'm saying, it's still how do they
not see a giant sprinkler, agiant water fountain or all the
water features that humans use?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
everywhere, I mean the oceans.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
How would you not look at that and go?
No.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
By what you're saying .
If you think about it, you gointo outer space, you go.
I don't know if you guys nerdout on this stuff, but New
Horizons turns around past.
Pluto takes a picture of Earthand it's a tiny blue dot.
You don't see any land yeah,it's when you're that far away.
How do you not see like, oh no,we can't go there.

(06:11):
Why?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
would you try now one of the things that somebody
said.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
That's what they thought remember one of the
things that one of the reportershad said was it was not an
invasion.
It it was a harvest.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Yeah, they were trying to.
They were taking the people.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, so that that maybe they were trying to save
us from ourselves.
Maybe.
Oh, they got knockout gas.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Interesting theory.
Well, apparently it just killeda lot of people, does it just?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Murphy was right there with us.
Buffy Rigney on the chat saysmaybe it was a drive by maybe
yeah, yeah, they're just passingEarth and they're like fuck it,
we got a couple weeks, boom.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
We're supposed to be on Titan in a couple weeks, but
it takes a week to get there.
We're three light years aheadof schedule.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
We can totally stop by Earth cause a little mischief
.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I was like dude, like let's just like she followed up
with a good one.
Have you met us?
No one wants to come here tosave us well, the last guy who
did?
We kind of, oh my god that'swhy he hasn't come back should
have been our sign uh, anywaysoh man, I said, oh my god, I

(07:27):
could have said pun intendedyeah, well, he yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Jesus needs a couple thousand years to cool off after
what happened big g's love youbig g's uh so let's talk about
the aliens themselves for alittle bit one.
What I think makes this movieso great and so iconic is the
fact that you don't see thealien.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
They're always shrouded in darkness when you do
see him, yeah first of all.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh yeah, I'll have a lot of first of alls, but I
tried to watch this.
This is so irresponsible andthis is all allegedly uh, I
allegedly was trying to watchthis passively while driving a
lot problem with this movie.
Everything has to be seen.

(08:14):
It's so dark and I'm drivingand it's daylight and I'm
looking at my phone and I'm justlooking back at myself.
I can't see shit there was onepoint where I paused it because
I was like I, I have no idea, Ikeep hearing like the violins
going vroom or something.
I don't see shit.
Yep, I have no idea what'shappening.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
And then at one point what the fuck am I looking at?

Speaker 1 (08:34):
At one point I go through a tunnel and my phone
brightens up a little bit.
I can't watch this.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
I have no idea what I'm looking at.
Just running through, justslapping sounds while they're
running through the cornfield.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Thank you, that was pretty good too.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I was so in the dark.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Pun intended, pun intended.
I had no idea what washappening for a lot of the movie
I had to rewatch it.
Not driving, I was like I can't.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Fair.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
You have to fucking watch this movie in a dark place
.
Yeah, no dude, you would not beable to see.
I think the only time you'd beable to see the alien is like at
the end.
At the end, or like when theysee, even then yeah, yeah yeah
dude, they're like, yeah, theyfucking, they had it like
through the tv, like you'relooking at the reflection
through the tv screen and I'mlike I can't see not one detail
on this fucking I'll tell youwhat.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
On my phone that just looked like a black screen.
I didn't see the alien in thetv.
I was, I knew it was there.
I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I was outside at night when I saw that part, so I
I could see it, you couldactually see it yeah, it was
dark outside.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I would also like to bring up.
Apparently they are so smart,they're so highly advanced that
they could not figure outregular doors.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I imagine they got like hologram doors or some shit
.
He got locked in.
It wasn't just that he couldn't, and he did get out.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
That's a big ass alien.
I would have been able to getout and he got out with one hand
.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
As you've seen, they didn't even like Well, he didn't
use that hand.
I'm sure have you ever tried touse your hand after you've had
fingers cut off.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, we also don't know how it got out.
We don't know if it broke outor if some unfortunate soul
happened to stop by and let itout by accident.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
So we don't know my cat's throwing up this really
weird color.
Mr vet, are you here?
You're like oh the guys, hemust have been locked in the
pantry.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Let me let him out exactly oh, wait a minute, all
right was that something that Imissed was ray.
Ray was the vet, the vet he.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
That's why, that's why, at the start that makes
perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I'm gonna call call dr, dr, whoever cornyn, whatever
vet.
The vet killed his wife.
Well, he'll know what to dovets played also played by m
night I do.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I do have to say I, I am very uh wait m night.
Okay, go on I do.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I do have to say.
The part that kept replaying inmy head over and over and over
again was uh, from scary moviethree with the fucking hat.
You guys remember that one.
What?
No, when, when, uh, when thepreacher was going to go see his
wife oh, yeah and uh the guywho was playing m night was like
hey ray, I'm gonna need a ridehome yeah, after he just no
because.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Because, like I was watching this, and like I was
only thinking about that scene,I'm like, damn, he just doesn't
say a word to him in this movie.
I was like I thought he wasgoing to say something.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
He's just sitting there Now to bring this back to
our mission here, to talk alittle bit about survival.
One of the things that you canput on this movie that is just
basics.
We're always talking aboutbasics here.
This movie highlights thenecessity of situational
awareness.
You need to be familiar withyour surroundings and know what

(11:54):
is normal, so that way you cantell what's abnormal, right,
when the unusual circumstancesstarted occurring.
Of course, for them it was easy, because crop circles are not
things that just happen, right?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
that's the remarkability of it it happened
overnight, especially when yousee it's happening all around
the world that's the other partthat's concerning yeah, yeah, it
should be especially like whenthe like there's like no way
people could just do thiselaborate plan.
It's popping up in freaking ind, but also on your farm, but
also like in like 277 othercountries, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
And how much?
How much of this do you thinkis controlled by disbelief, your
own disbelief, like, do youthink, host, do you think you
would grab onto the fact that,hey, this is happening all over
the world, or would you, wouldyou inherently have that all
over the world?
Or would you, would youinherently have that level of
disbelief that would be guidingyou first?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
oh man, yeah, I think I think I would be just like
merle.
I think merle had it rightmerle merle whatever it's merle
also joaquin phoenix.
What the fuck?
Yeah, I did not know that wasjoaquin Phoenix.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Really, this is the first movie I've seen that had
Joaquin Phoenix in it.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I've been a fan ever since this movie, this was the
very first one.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
There's a lot about this movie.
I didn't know.
I didn't know it was AbigailBreslin.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I didn't know, it was a Culkin brother.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
I didn't know that.
Oh, rory Culkin, what do youmean?
Who the fuck is Rory?
And I look it up and I thoughtit was either fucking Macaulay
Culkin or his other brother.
And I look it up, it's Rory.
I'm like who the fuck is Rory?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's Rory.
I didn't know there was a thirdone, I know it was the only
other one.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
They all look the goddamn same dawg.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
They all look the same strong in those males.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Like goddamn, here's another thing.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
They look the exact same, all three of them.
It is crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
TJ often looks these things up, so I might not be
telling him anything he doesn'talready know.
But did you know that JoaquinPhoenix was not the first go for
that role?
It was.
It was actually Mark Ruffalo.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yes, but Mark Ruffalo had a brain tumor.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
A brain tumor.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
You're about to be benign.
I think we all read the exactsame trivia in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Did we all watch it on Amazon?
I saw the little trivia.
I know.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I know, I know Allegedly Watch it on places.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
I allegedly watched it on this website.
Right now, right here, I'm notever.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I keep the fuck out of my website.
Unless you're like my friend,you're not getting it yeah, so
lucky for you.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I don't even remember it, so I can't even share it,
but just because, just becausethe host loves saying his name,
will you say his name again?

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I'm not shaman.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
So did you know how much he inserted himself into
this movie?
No so the book about theextraterrestrials, all of the
artwork in it was done by him.
The uh, the stories about thechildren's birth are actually
the stories of his two childrenthat's cool, that's really sweet
and the crop circles are realbecause m night shamalan doesn't

(14:57):
like uh cgi oh my god, wait,there's another actor minimize
the amount of cgi in thisthere's another actor who did,
or another director who did avery similar thing.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I think it was for Interstellar or something.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
It was for Interstellar, he got land and
was like hey, I'm going tofucking grow all this corn.
All this corn is legit.
They literally had to hire afarmer to make this giant crop
field, and then they sold it forprofit after the movie was done
.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, and then they harvested the corn and sold it
all for profit it was honestlybrilliant.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
I mean, yeah, you're not just going to waste all that
corn.
Literally like a scene and ahalf.
You see the corn in like twoscenes.
It's not long enough.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
It's like him driving through it and then, like they
so could have CGI'd it.
You would have never known.
They did not.
Honestly, they could have madelike a tenth of how much they
actually planted, and it wouldhave been fine.
They could have used that.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Did you know that they built this house
specifically for this movie?
No way they built the house.
Grew the corn.
It's land owned by some collegeor something.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
This house doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
They tore it down.
Oh, one thing I wanted to bringup why are the kids sharing a
room?
I guarantee this house is morethan two bedrooms, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, if it's only three, Meryl needs one.
Oh, actually, never mind.
Well, no, he was out.
I remembered.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
His wife had one of the rooms as like a sewing room
and nobody goes in there.
It was blocked.
Oh, oh oh, oh oh, I didn'tremember that part.
All right, I pay attention.
I love this fucking movie.
This is a great movie, it's agood movie Top tier Shyamalan
movie I haven't watched thismovie for quite a while.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I think last time I watched it I was still a little
too young to really processeverything.
This was the first time that Iwatched this movie and realized
that the dad was a reverend.
I did not catch that the firstcouple tens of times that I
watched this movie.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Damn, he has a lot of kids.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I recall him father it's weird, Because it didn't
even Because to me it was allabout the aliens.
All the boring talking parts.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Never paid attention to it.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I literally at no point did I ever hear anybody
call him father, because I justtuned out the movie until the
aliens showed up when you'reyounger.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
You just kind of don't pick up on shit so get
this little tidbit.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I was also like, yeah , it's so weird they call him
father.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
But whatever, it meant nothing to me.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
I'm like, oh, his name is father, okay, so there's
a, there's another there'sanother little little tidbit
here which is just deep kind ofdark.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
The scene in which graham has his last conversation
with his wife was scheduled forseptember 12 2001 and was
filmed after a cast and crewcandlelight vigil.
They still fucking recordedthat shit the show must go on.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, I mean what?
What happened?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
nothing big, you know , 9-11 oh, you mean the thing
with like that little tower?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
like two towers, three towers like what you call
when you need help.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I'm talking about the thing that happened when when
the three towers in new yorkcollapsed are you ready?
Are you ready for?
Are you ready for this?
Are you ready for this?
Cell phone towers.
You know that event where ourpresident at the time, George
Bush, just decimated New Yorkand unalived a whole bunch of
New Yorkers just to get us to goto war in Iraq.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
Oh, that one yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, no, sorry, I had to.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
That jet fuel.
Why didn't you lead with that?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Well, I didn't know how much TikTok would let me get
away with.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
No, I don't even know .
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Speaker 1 (18:40):
So, going back to something I was saying about,
what makes this movie so iconicand so good is how little you do
see the alien Part of it,because of how damn dark the
movie is, but also some of itbecause it's intentional.
They show you very littleglimpses.
I remember the first time I sawthe alien's foot, the first

(19:02):
time I ever saw that scene inthe cornfield almost shit my
pants it was terrifying it did.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's such a good scene guys, the the aliens in
this movie are hoax.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
It's all the goddamn worthington brothers, yeah but
you know what I I feel like Igoing back to like what you said
, alex.
When would I?
Or how skeptical would I be?
When would it hit me that, oh,this is real yep I think Merrill
had it pretty right.
He was remember.
Uh, there's a particular scenewhere they where the baby
monitors first going off, whereuh, he's like no, no, this it's

(19:32):
all bullshit, it's just a hoax.
This is all shit, this isnothing okay.
Yeah, this is bullshit I'm gonnamove and he's like you'll lose
the signal.
All of a sudden he was abeliever.
He was like no, no, I, I agreewith the kid, it's like listen
I'm gonna support my brotherlike to a point.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
And then he was like I, I definitely fucking heard
some things talking he's like no, the kid's got a point I did
once like I'd be like oh, cropcircles, that's weird, fuck
those worthington brothers, it'sprobably them.
And then once like like oh, cropcircles, that's weird, fuck
those Worthington Brothers, it'sprobably them.
And then Once like like, ohShit, there's something on the
roof.
That Scene was crazy, cause,like you see his Face register

(20:14):
that, hey, that's weird, youknow.
And it's just standing therefucking menacingly On the roof.
Also, diddy, why are youstaring into the kids room?
You fucking weirdo?
Well, it's like when he wastalking to the cop and thedy,
why are you staring?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
into the kid's room.
You fucking weirdo anyway.
Well, it's like when he wastalking to the cop and the cop
was like you know, couldn't ithave been this?
And he's like I don't know.
I'm pretty fast and I'm prettystrong, it's them.
Uh, this thing, it fuck.
It just hopped onto a 10-foothouse and women yeah, I love
where she, yeah, where she'slike.
You know well, there's thescandinavian women in the

(20:45):
olympics.
I'm like, oh yeah, thescandinavian olympic performer
came over the house.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
I don't appreciate the sarcasm but I gotta I gotta
love his response, I mean let'sbe realistic I absolutely love
the acting of joaquin phoenix,or he he sells that so well,
where he delivers his line,she's delivering hers, he's
paused, he's waiting, and thenhis next line.
Okay, I'm sorry I may have beenout of line with that whole

(21:12):
Scandinavian hijab thing.
I like that, you know.
On a real note.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
I do feel like that's kind of like maybe more of a
glimpse of what society was likethen versus now.
I think maybe I'm wrong.
I think, alex, you would knowthis better and you'd even have
more time before then to compareto, so you could compare like
the 1720s to the 1820s, the1920s to the 2020s.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
The early 2000s were peak.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
So like early 2000s, where he was like okay, I was
out of line.
Let me rephrase I just don'tfeel like people do that enough
nowadays to just admit like oh,you know what, okay I, I got a
little ahead of myself.
My bad, it's also and whilewe're, while we're in like it's
just, it's not a big deal, likeyou got ahead of yourself, fine
it's.
I think it's.
It's real easy to just be, tojust acknowledge it and be like,

(22:00):
oh, you know what I, my bad,overreacted to that.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
While we're in the realm of film as well, that's
true.
People don't do that enoughanymore, and it's because in the
realm of social media, I thinkthey believe that apologizing
shows weakness, and in a lot ofcases I completely agree In.
When you're a public figure andyou apologize, the public just

(22:24):
eats you up.
The best thing to do, like MattRife showed this, you make a
joke that people don't like.
Just move on.
Yeah, don't let them force youto do you know?
Oh, I'm going to apologize forwhat it is that I do.
Right, he's a comedian, hemakes jokes.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Oh yeah, I definitely don't agree with Not all jokes
land.
Yeah with getting mad at acomedian over a joke, right.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
If you don't find it funny, I forget what he said
Fucking.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I forget the guy's name, but he was like Dahlia or
something like that.
What's his name?
Chris?
Which one?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Chris Dahlia, yeah, dahlia.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Where he made a joke.
He was like I find it so funnywhen people get mad when I'm on
stage real.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
None of it's all a fucking joke.
Yeah, why?
How could you get mad at it?
But in the, in the realm offilm, I do actually think tj
says early 2000s.
I think the matrix had it righthumanity peaked in 1999?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
yeah, I, I don't know .
Let's say 2000, that's when Iwas born nope, nope, it sucked.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
It started sucking that moment uh, debatable,
debatable, debatable.
But if you know the world gotdarker, get it, get it.
You see what I did there.
Don't just breeze past that.
That was grade a.
That was grade a it's.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
It's weird, because I definitely think like obviously
I wasn't alive in 2000, so I Idon't know, I I don't have that
comparison I wasn't sentientuntil 2003 yeah, so neither of
us really have that comparisonto to say you made him drool.
Crazy.

(23:49):
That's kind of what I was doing, just a lot.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
A light turned on in 2003.
I remember that was good.
You don't.
You know my first memory ever.
I have two and I think youmight remember one of't one.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
You don't you know my first memory ever.
I have two and I think youmight remember one of them.
One of them was me brushing myteeth in the shower, because I
remember it being like the mostnovel idea in the world, because
it was.
I was like three, um, and I Ihave a very oddly vivid memory
of that.
Another one is waking up atwhat must have been like 2 am to
tell you that I'd peed the bed.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Oh, yeah, but other than that.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
oh, I also have a third random memory from that
same apartment.
I remember one time after ashower I had water in my ear and
I turned my head and I knockedmy head like three times.
I'll never forget the feelingof that water coming out of my
ear so smoothly, yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Oh my God.
So survival tip for everybody.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, oh, my god.
So survival tip for everybody,so you don't die of an ear
infection.
If you have water in your ear,bend over and tilt your head
sideways it always comes up.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Oh that it they.
Oh man.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Water never gets stuck in my ears, because I just
do that and it comes out well,no, and that's that's like the
best, what we used to do all thetime after surfing, because
you'll always have water in yourears.
You get back to your car, youyour towel, you brush off all
the sand on your ankles bybending over at the hips.
Don't kneel down, you know.
Don't try to be a man.
No, bend over at the hips likeyou're stretching, and when

(25:12):
you're, when you're upside downlike that, all the water is
going to come out of your noseand your ears.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Ew Water in your nose , the nose part sucks yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Oh dude, you can't, you can't serve without water
getting in your nose.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Oh, that brings up another thing.
Here's a survival tip.
This is actually a survival tip.
If you're anywhere and you'rehearing ambient animals all
around you, and then they goquiet, you should probably also
go quiet.
In this movie you could watchit again and just Pay attention
to it.
Every time some weird alienshit happens, all the sound

(25:45):
disappears.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah, they actually mention that.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, I think it's really easy to overlook this,
and as I've become more of ananimal guy, I've paid attention
to it more and more.
You can really tell a lot bythe wildlife around you, like
when you see a flock of birdssuddenly move or suddenly fly
away, something moved over there.
There's something walking ormoving around over there.

(26:11):
When things go silent, there'sa predator around like it,
things like that, that, the thewoods, or not necessarily just
the woods, but nature tells you,it gives you hints at what's
happening around you, if youknow what to listen for and what
to look for yeah, yeah, yeah umfuck, what was it?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
that's a good one, though.
I got something if you're youwant to think for a minute yeah,
I tried to think back to whereI was gonna go before more from
more from this.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Uh, this movie, specifically survival related,
uh, that was a good one.
The other side of this isstealth and silence.
Um, you can.
You can formulate the argumentthat the aliens were drawn to
sound.
They kept coming to thepeople's houses they were in.
Now, I don't know why they werein this particular area where
the hess family lived, becauseeverywhere else they were in

(27:01):
cities, which made sense becauseit's that's a lot of action,
there's a lot of activity,there's a lot of noise, there's
a lot of action, there's a lotof activity, there's a lot of
noise, there's a lot of movement.
I do know that one thing thatthe credits or the trivia
pointed out was that it was ageographical goof.
They said that it was 80 milesoutside of Philadelphia, but it
was actually only about 10 milesaway from the border.

(27:22):
So it would, it would stand toreason, if they would have
gotten it right, that they werenear a city, and how much area
these aliens covered is unknown.
So we were just talking aboutthis.
Uh, in nature, animals know,insects know, animals know be
quiet when a predator is around,and you yourself need to be
able to take that, that stealthand silent approach it's.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
It's a lot of just being aware of your surroundings
, it's.
I mean, the more that I workwith animals, the more it's
imperative that you'reconstantly keep your head on a
swivel.
Um, even just something assimple as walking dogs like it's
a pretty simple job, butthere's a lot of little things
that you learn as you do it.
More, um, like always keepingyour head on a swivel, or

(28:06):
anytime I'm about to pick uppoop, I always scan around me to
look at what's happening,because the last thing I need to
do is not see a dog that'sapproaching us, and I'm bent
over and my dogs decide theywant to lurch.
I'm screwed at that point.
I also have a.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
So about that.
They were on a different levelof knowing when shit's up in
this movie because, like whenhe's in the field with the cop,
he's just like I can't hear mykids yeah, that's crazy.
Um, every time they like turntowards the corn, they could
fucking like they're sensingsomething.
They're like you know we stareat these, this freaking thing of

(28:43):
corn, all the time you can likefeel when it's wrong, you know
so when you're aware of yoursurroundings, you get more keen
to shit like that.
You know, in like your everydaylife you'd be able to I agree,
yeah like he, like when ummerrill, uh, like he turned
towards the corn and freakingthrough the rock, I'm like
what's, yeah?
First off, what's that rockgonna do?
Second off, what if that shitcomes back?

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I was thinking like what if he?

Speaker 1 (29:09):
throws it and it hits something in the sky like that
would have been crazy dunk, justa dunk, and then you see like a
force field kind of rippleacross.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Oh, that's like a little independence day right
there oh and did you notice in,like the final scene um, I don't
know if you did, eric, becauseyou're watching this on a dark
ass screen, but on the alien'sbody, like they like they have
like camouflage right, you couldsee, like the the sun's shirt,

(29:37):
like it took the pattern fromthe sun's shirt when it turned
around, you could see thedaughter's face on the skin of
the alien.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh, I missed that.
That's an interesting detail.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
They got some real wicked camouflage.
I don't know why they didn'tuse it more.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
They did in the beginning until they decided to
just go.
So they were just like yo fuckit.
Let's let them know.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Hold on, little Mexican kid.
Seen them, it's behind.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
That was crazy.
Okay, the school.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
I would have reacted the same way.
Dude that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, the school, I would have reacted the same way.
Dude, oh man, Dude.
Joaquin Phoenix's R Merrill.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh, I loved his character.
Oh, dude.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
He did the straight up.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Leonardo DiCaprio, oh , oh, leonardo DiCaprio, oh oh,
oh oh, yeah, yeah, he said moveout the way, little kids Vamanos
.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, vamanos, that was so funny.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Now just a quick sidebar on this.
If I'm not mistaken, thatLeonardo DiCaprio scene comes
out of Once Upon a Time inHollywood right.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
No, I thought it was Wolf of Wall Street.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Was it.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, I think you're thinking of the one that goes,
he goes and he points yeah, yeah, yeah, were you whistling at it
?
That's Hollywood one.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
That's Once Upon a Time in Hollywoodllywood yeah
yeah, oh, I thought it waswillful, wall street.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
No, because he, he was an actor in once upon a time
in hollywood, and so when hesees himself, he was like, oh he
like whistles at himself so letme uh, let me give a shout out
to buffy again, because she'sgot a good one.
She asks do y'all hunt if youare quiet, all other beings
alert each other.
Now that's pretty freaking wildand mellow just gave us a, a

(31:03):
few donuts.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Thank you, mellow thanks for the donuts.

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Speaker 1 (31:32):
To continue about animals.
Now it's my fifth time tryingthis sentence.
Hello, you hurt the dogs.
First of all, fucking props tothe kid taking on a full-grown
German shepherd and winning.
I would've died Without a markon him.
Are you kidding me?
Yep, this kid's fuckingSuperman.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
And the fucking sister's.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Okay, dude, yeah kid's a fucking hero.
Took out the dog and protectedhis sister.
Didn't have a fucking scratchon him A full grown German
Shepherd.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
The one thing the kid said was it was trying to get
his sister for some reason.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
So that did kind of that kind of.
That's what I thought is likemaybe the dog was completely
focused on the sister and not onhim at all, yeah, but at the
same time he still got the dogbefore it was able to hurt her
yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Well, he said oh yeah , it fell on me he fell on me.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
True, it's I don't know I I admired his um, his
knowledge of the dog's behavior.
I mean, it's pretty commonsense if a dog growls at you,
you should probably stopwhatever you're doing but how
young he is, how young he is andhe was able to say don't run
where you said yeah, you saidstop, don't run, don't turn away
he tried to correct the dog'sbehavior.
He did everything right he dideverything right and that was

(32:52):
very well done.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
And then they left the other one outside that's
yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Oh man, that sucks it definitely.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
They shared a look at each other.
They're like oof because they?

Speaker 2 (33:07):
because they said they were gonna tie her up in
the garage when they were donewith yeah, they literally said
the dog would have died in thegarage too yeah, so
theoretically, I mean, unlessyou brought her in which I'm
just saying.
They probably would have wentfor the dog I would have I kind
of feel if you're in attentionwith the dog, I think you could
have right, oh yeah, that dogwould have been the second.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Things were being fucking weird around me.
My dog is with me at all timesyeah yeah, I, but I'm just a dog
person like I feel much morecomfortable with a dog around me
.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Some people wouldn't hear me out, I assume, if you
own two dogs, you would feelcomfortable with dogs.
If the dog you know is likeevery other dog and has is made
of water and slobbers, does thebite give poison damage?

Speaker 1 (33:49):
see aliens I mean damage.
So come on, no, the way that Ithink of that is like
technically there is water in it, but I think of it the same way
like there's certain acids thatwe can pour on ourselves, that
it is acidic but it doesn'treally burn our skin without
being in incredibly large doses,or quantities that, or like
leaving your hand in it.

(34:10):
Yeah, because it's like there'slike a really common acid that,
like you can dip your hand inand you're totally fine.
It's not going to burn you oranything.
You don't want to get it inyour eye or anything.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I mean the one I think of, that you say that I've
messed with sulfuric acid.
I've messed with sulfuric acid.
I've messed with muriatic acid.
Vinegar is very acidic.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, so like there's certain things that, yes, it's
acidic, but so that's what Iimagine.
Like slobber and spit and peeis like, yeah, there's water in
it which would be acidic to them, but I don't think it's the
same as like pure water.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
It's like, ah, dude, stop ah, yeah, it's like you
know they might they might getsome hives or something piss in
its eyes.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
It's the weak spot they, they learn.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
They learn that water is the weakness on earth, right
yeah then the aliens come tolos angeles and they start
spraying them with like tapwater and it makes the aliens
stronger because it's morefluoride than it is water.
It's like fluoride, chlorine,bromine, calcium, calcium so

(35:17):
much calcium.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Bro ask my fucking fish tank.
How much calcium is in LA tapwater.
Oh my God, just building up dog.
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I could sell it.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
I swear I could scrape it off and sell it.
I'd make a fortune as a mineralsupplement.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I got these rare earth minerals.
There's calcium rare earth.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Rare fish calcium Fish, calcium pills, dude.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Something we've talked about a lot on this
podcast that they did in thismovie.
I particularly want to pointout that they did it.
Wrong is the fortification oftheir shelter.
Did you guys notice how theythe bedroom?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
door.
Yes, yeah, what the fuck arethey barricading?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
right, they barricaded the wrong side of the
door, yeah, so if, if it was me, I would have gone in the
bedroom and nailed it all shutand gone out the window, out
onto that, because it lookedlike they had a ledge like a
roof awning.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, there's like a roof awning there you walk
around to everyone and then youget a ladder down or you know,
drop down and have your brothercatch you yeah, that whole like
when they when I remember whenthey walked out of that bedroom
and they closed it and I waslike, oh, okay, and then they
put the board up and immediatelymy thought was what the fuck?
Yeah, I uh the alien could justopen the door, yeah exactly,

(36:38):
they didn't.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
They couldn't barricade the windows, so they
just like they could break thewindow, walk in, open the door,
you know.
And they didn't even likebarricade the entire thing so my
idea was for how I wouldsurvive.
That like, oh the freaking.
You know, we need stuff for thewindows.
We have doors on the inside ofour house see, that's what I
thought have doors exactlythere's like what?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
two, three windows in there the frick, take the door
off the bedroom take thefreaking bathroom door, fucking
board it up to the window.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Um, they did have like.
I don't know if you guys seenit, but there's at one point
where you see one of the uh likebarricades that they nailed to
the.
It's the roof of their littleplay set.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, I don't know if you noticed that, but they you
know they're making use of shitright make more use of shit you
know, yeah, you know, ever sinceyou uh, alex, you mentioned
that in the night of the livingdead episode.
It's, it's a brilliant ideabarricading your windows with
with interior doors that youhave that genius.
It's so smart.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
It's the strongest wood you're gonna find in your
whole house yeah, just likereadily available, yeah it's the
largest pieces, yeah, and thoseare all like actual wood doors
and not like home depot piecesof shit like plywood, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, I mean, frankly speaking, even if they are uh,
it you're talking about like alot of for us, our specific
example and using this apartmentthat we're in it's double paned
reinforced glass, and then youput a a bedroom door right
behind it and I keep uh sets ofof lag bolts and nuts.

(38:12):
It came in a set, so I might aswell keep it right.
I'm not going to throw it away,but they're um six inch lags
they fit through the wall so Iwould be able to go outside.
Nobody's getting through it yep,I would be able to go outside
and drill through the the studs.
All I would need is a coupleand a couple on each side that's

(38:34):
it and it.
I mean that's that, it's uhit's a rounded.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
It's a rounded bolt on the outside.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
So and then our, our front door is gated with a
security gate, so you're notgoing to get through that very
easily.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, I mean, I have a feeling, if we're talking
about our apartment complex,particularly with signs, I think
they climb up the sides.
I don't think there's anythingstopping them.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, they're very agile.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
There's definitely several ways they can get in.
Yeah, they were very, veryagile in that regard.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
And smart to a point.
There's definitely several waysthey could get in.
They could go to the pool area.
Hop over that gate easy.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
They had tactics like when they were in the basement
and they were looking foranother way in, so they were
distracting them by banging onthe door.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, that was great.
All of that was so well done.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Also very smart for them to kind of problem solve
that and be like what are theydoing?

Speaker 3 (39:26):
It's not like they're really trying.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
They're not really trying to get in.
What are they doing?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, making noise, trying to distract us.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Why do they have so much dog food?

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Right?
Well, they have two GermanShepherds, dude.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
But that's like eight bags they also said they live
80 miles from town.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah, that was one of the points that I said.
It was probably more like 10miles.
But to move on real quick toanother point is the necessity
of being able to use everydayitems as an improvised weapon.
You did this to us a couple ofepisodes ago in Survivor Die.
And what could you grab?
You know around you, near you,and use as a weapon.

(40:04):
And the fact that you knowaround you, near you and uses a
weapon, and the fact that youknow, thankfully right, I mean
in today's society, if you couldget a hold of a super soaker,
but the fact that Merrill had abaseball bat right there and
then you got to look around yourhouse and figure what do you
have?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
They set that up when he was in the recruiting office
.
Yeah, they did.
You know what else they set upwhat?

Speaker 1 (40:24):
I remember when the cop was first there and he was
collecting the all of her watercups and then he went to collect
three more and he left themyeah, fuck it, and yeah, and he
like walked away, foreshadowedthe hell out of him.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I'm sick of telling her to stop doing this.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, yeah, oh yeah well, at the at the end, when
they, when they realized thatthe alien was weak to water and
they noticed all the water cupsaround, I, I, I set out live.
I was like, oh, you walked intothe wrong fucking house yeah,
you walked into the one housethat has a cup of water in every
room that's like the whole, youknow at least one other side of

(41:03):
signs.
It's the other signs signs fromthe big G's.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Um the wife.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
I, when she was just pointing Alex was just pointing
out how much water I have.
I have water.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
He's immortal to these aliens.
There's so much water, Um, butyeah, it's like, but the
daughter she has this like thisthing where she just doesn tell
Graham to see and then tellMerrill to swing away.
He seen, registered and thentold him to swing away.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
So it's like, you know, that's when he I think
that's when he got his faithback, which now to point out the
obvious.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
He was talking to himself when he was talking to
Merrill, when they were sittingon the couch watching all the
news, and he says what kind ofperson are you, the kind of
person who sees signs ineverything, who sees meaning
behind everything and there's amessage being told to you?
Are you the person who believesthat it's just coincidence?

Speaker 1 (41:57):
And of course, at the end he's like huh, huh yeah.
Well, I think there's two bigmoments that happened there.
One was when Merrill told him Idon't ever want to see that
look in your eyes ever again.
He basically told him you aresupposed to be my faith rock.
Uh, in this world you gottapull your shit together, man.

(42:17):
You gotta find your fuckingfaith again, because I can't be
the one with more faith than you.
That that's not how this fuckingworks, especially after what
his kids said to uncle, unclemerrill yeah yeah, that's I wish
you were my dad I I honestly Ithink merrill was the fucking
coolest character.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
That whole show.
He said nothing wrong.
It's good that he was likedon't ever say that again.
Yeah, he was like no.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I think part of it was like I don't want that
responsibility, Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Meryl's idea of a miracle was him taking out his
gun, I think before he gotthrown up.
Yeah, it was a girl notthrowing up on him and he's like
that was God, that had to bethat was righteous, that girl
was gonna throw up on me in hismouth.
That's what he was saying, Iwas gonna lean in to kiss her.

(43:09):
I know exactly what you'retalking about, about God
intervening.
There was this one time I wasgoing to kiss this girl, that
was so great.
Honestly, I swear that's everynew Christian is, when you start
to realize where God is and allthe little things and you're
like that was God she would havethrown up on me.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Now where I think there could be a good comparison
made is with merrill.
The whole conversation of of uh, being your dad is merrill with
his brother's kids and you withmine.
The age difference is aboutappropriate and I think it makes
perfect sense when you say that.
You know, I don't think hewanted the responsibility.

(43:52):
I think that you have enoughexperience knowing me that I
will lay my life down for them.
There's no question about it.
It's not, it's not even noteven up for debate.
And you, I, I personallybelieve if we were in that
situation, you would be rightalongside me.
But knowing that addedresponsibility and terror of I

(44:13):
cannot, I can't die.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Eric could be standing there like protect them
.
The old guy gotta die first no,you know what?
Sacrifice himself.
Let's see.
If it works out, then I'llconsider it.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
oddly enough, I do think I view it differently.
I I don't know, obviously.
I don't know how I wouldactually react in a situation
like this, but my initialreactions are I don't have kids,
I don't have anybody who'snecessarily relying on me being
alive in order for them to go on, not to say that people

(44:49):
wouldn't miss me if I die.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
I am.
I'm relying on you If you leaveme, I'll kill myself.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
TJ's very toxic in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Yeah, I'll send the video to everybody too
beforehand.
I'll have it lined up, damn.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
But I do see it as like I would if it was like a
situation like this.
I would rather sacrifice myselfthan you, because my thought
would be that you have to bethere to raise them.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
I don't have that responsibility which I think is
what merrill was saying.
When, when, uh, I forget whatwas the boy's name.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Um, that's beau was the girl yeah, it was bow and
bow and fuck, was it billy?
I have it?

Speaker 3 (45:29):
no, not billy, I have it, I have it, I have it I
gotta, I gotta find it, becausethat's another little small
details when he was holding hisson when, uh, after the gas got
sprayed on him, you can hear himsay that's why he has asthma
yep his lungs are closed, that'she didn't get in that's why he
has asthma and he just keepsrepeating it.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I think he, because he was.
That was also the moment wherehe remembered the final moment
of talking to his uh, to hiswife.
I found it very interestingthat one of the first things she
said was she said I, I was justgoing on a walk.
Uh, it's like it was meant tobe.
Yeah, even in in a situationlike that, to be able to say
that, well, it was meant tohappen that this is.

(46:11):
It is what it is what are wegoing to do about it?
yeah this was meant to happenand I I think that's when he, I
think that was a moment where hegot his faith back and he
realized that was faith inaction.
Saying like this is why he hasasthma.
He's going to be fine, he isfine, he's fine that there's,
I'm not even going to worry he'sfine, give him a minute, don't
touch him.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
What I, what I actually think you, you and I
were saying the same thing intwo different ways was when
morgan asked uh, merrill, youwon't let anything happen to us,
right?
and he said no.
And then, when he was like Iwish you were my daddy.
And then merrill got mad at him, it was like don't ever say
that, I.
I felt like it was for thatexact same reason of merrill's

(46:51):
like yeah, I will, I will go totown.
Don't, don't you even worryabout it, but not in the same
manner that the dad would.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
And the dad is needed , yeah the, the dad, I I felt
for him because he was very good, I think, objectively, with how
he won, how he spoke to thekids with the exception of his
little crash out at the table,um, but with how he spoke to the
kids and how democratic he was,took a vote and then I count my
vote counts as two look I agreewith him.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
I do too.
I 100 agree with him I do andthen when he got outvoted, still
, even when his vote counted astwo, he was man enough to suck
it up and go.
Well, I lost that vote yeah andbecause he very well could have
been like no, we're going tothe lake, yeah and he would have
been right uh, my vote he wouldhave been 100 right I'm
speaking for the dog also yeah,I speak for both dogs.

(47:42):
My vote counts as four.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Yeah, exactly I am the lorax.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I speak for the trees , I speak for the course, I get
five thousand which, as we'regetting close here, I want to
bring up just another couple ofpoints, is having an escape plan
.
It was the decision to stay putwas you know.
It's fine and all, when youhave in mind that they had
another plan, and that is veryimportant in any survival

(48:07):
situation.
You need to be able to have anescape plan.
Once they dug in their heels,it was you know.
It's too late.
You have to write out whatyou've decided.
And then, last but not leastwe've brought this up in many of
the most recent episodes isyour mental resilience.
You need to be able to stayfocused.
I know he had a crash out, Iget it, but this was kind of

(48:28):
different.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
It was a very justified crash out.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
He's battling two different things at once.
He's fighting.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
God and aliens.
When you're crashing out andhe's battling two different
things at once, he's fightingGod and aliens.
And you got mashed potatoes inyour mouth.
You know that you're.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
I felt for him Because it was like why?

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Why does that make so much sense?
You got mashed potatoes in yourmouth and you're crashing out.
It's just like I feel like,because he put those mashed
potatoes in his mouth is why hecrashed out.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
It's like, damn, I've gone too far, because, then,
because, then, like he was liketrying to chew the mashed
potatoes like bro, come on youknow, I I found it very sweet
and comforting that it was likethe whole family realized, like
this man never does this and forhim to be at this point, yeah,
like the, the way that the kidshad just been screamed at by him

(49:17):
and were immediately like thisisn't, this isn't you.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
And went and hugged him.
When you're a kid, yeah,they're like you.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Don't do this, I like when you grab Merle, you
remember the first time you seeyour dad cry.
You know, yeah, your dad nevercries.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
You know I will ever seen you cry.
I don't think I have.
I've never seen Grandpa cry,for sure.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I don't cry in front of people.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
I cry to God like a little bitch, but I don't cry in
front of people.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Let's make him cry.
What can we do?
What are?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
you going to make me cry?

Speaker 3 (49:49):
I cry about everything, anesthetic, and
he'll be asleep for at least 48hours.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Take him to Turkey.
I've heard those stories Gethim hair implants.
Oh, no, right, Take him back.
You've heard those stories, notthat one.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
And then bow His hair's back.
He comes to tears.
And then what happens there's?

Speaker 1 (50:06):
also an implant.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
He shaved it off.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
There's also an implant to reject all the hairs.
We just press a button.
They all fall out immediately.
Cries even more.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen.
Take it away twice.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
I don't think that's going to happen.
What do old people cry about?
Whoa?

Speaker 3 (50:20):
I have hair.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
And it will fall out and be like oh yeah, that's
about right.
What do old people what?

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, what do people from the 1700s cry about?
Alex?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
What Nothing men don't cry back.
I think.
I think I was gonna say maybehe's traumatized from that men
don't cry.
When was the black plague?
Was that the 16?

Speaker 2 (50:40):
the plague was that the 16, 20s?

Speaker 3 (50:41):
I don't know um, oh, another little detail.
Um, the vet, when he's talkingto him before he's, he fucking
skirts off.
Also, why did he fucking skirtoff every time?
Bro fucking presses the pedallike he did it when they're in
the freaking pizza place andlike he did it when they were in
the freaking pizza place andthen he did it when he was like
dog, wait for me to move awayfrom the car before you, you

(51:01):
know but um dramatic as hell, hesaid he was like explaining,
like, what happened when he hithis wife and he's like, it's
like it was meant to be, youknow, yeah, and then what?
what does the wife say when,like her final?
Words she's like, it's like itwas meant to be, you know, yeah.
And then what?
What does the wife say when,like her final words, she's like
, it's like it was meant to be.
You see, you see him break downcrying, you know, and then I
think that's also like firststep towards, like his, his, his

(51:24):
, his revival of yeah, I agreebeing a father and a father I do
think.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
I think that was a a big moment where he realized I
how do I describe this?
I think it's unfortunatelyreally common for people of
faith to waver, at the leastwhen somebody that close to you
passes, because it's just anunfortunate reality that

(51:49):
everybody dies.
But when you lose somebody wayearlier than you were expecting
to, especially like In a realgruesome- you were expecting to,
especially like a real gruesomeway.
Yeah, especially like your wifeyeah, being severed at the waist
, your wife uh, leaving you andyour two children.
That I understand how it shakessomebody's faith like that, and
it to me it's veryunderstandable that he fell,

(52:13):
that he fell away like that.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Good trade-off.
He lost his faith.
He got walking in Phoenix.
Jeez, I'd like to live withthat man.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
No, there's no trade-off for me without my wife
.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Good save.
I know you won't walk in yourlife.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
I think it really showed a good.
It showed, I think, a prettydecent depiction of something
that could make.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
That could shake your faith and on top of you know a
world, a catastrophic worldending event like an alien
invasion also being on top ofthat, but yeah, and yeah, you'll
see how it kind of cascades too, because it went from like it
was like a domino effect, likewife dies, you know, then
frickin' Meryl moves in and thenall the shit happens, it all

(52:59):
you know.
Yeah, it was all foretold inthe prophecy, it was.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Mel Gibson is our lord and savior no.
Good discussion, guys.
Let's see I'm tallying up thepoints in my head.
Very official points here umalex uh, why should you win?

Speaker 2 (53:19):
why should I win?
Because I actually brought somesurvival tactics to the table
here, we're talking about howyou survive the signs invasion.
Uh, we've talked about thesituational awareness,
fortifying your shelter, beingstealthy and silent, using
improvised weapons, having anescape plan and maintaining your

(53:40):
mental resilience.
These are things that arealways good in any survival
situation, especially in signs.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Okay, tj, why should you win?
I do want to point out,actually really quick.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I do want to point out TJ also brought some
survival tips to discussion nogo on tj um, I'm not gonna have
a real chat gpts answer like hedid, but I would like to say
that I definitely did bring somesurvival stuff to the table,
also brought some good filmstuff, also brought some good
faith stuff.
I also brought a tinfoil hat.
Um, that's true, I also havetwo really good picks for, uh,

(54:17):
the next movie.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Uh, if you'd like to hear them, oh, I, I will say uh
before, before we get to that uh, tinfoil hat definitely earns
you uh some bonus points,because, uh, I love the cosplay
very funny I wore it the wholetime yeah, you did that's
commitment.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I really do appreciate that yeah, yeah, the
aliens are already in everybodyelse's mind Not mine, though.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Yeah, you know what the aliens are telling me.
Okay, guys, hang on, I'mgetting an intrusive thought
from the aliens, wait.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
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(55:08):
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Speaker 3 (55:17):
Wum, wum, wum, wum.
That's the stuff in your brain.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Okay, thank you for that, oh.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Josh just gave three points.
Josh gave three points for thehat.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Let's go, Josh yeah, according to the Constitution,
he's allowed to do that.
Well, because the aliens havespoken and they say the winner
is TJ Wubba lubba, dub, dub.
Now, an astounding amount ofpoints, with the additional
three provided by Josh.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Yes, would you like to hear my two picks?
I will let the host choosewhich one.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Sure, really quick.
I do want to say, alex, you didbring some great discussion,
but TJ brought a tinfoil hat andthat's pretty big, so go on, tj
, okay first pick is just anormal survival story.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Top tier, just survival, all the way cast away.
Okay, next pick because themovie reminded me that the movie
exists War of the Worlds.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
I think they referenced that.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
They, yeah, they did, they took inspiration from that
, like I think it was, it was,it was especially the uh, the
basement scene.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
He actually says it that he took that whole basement
scene from george orwell's warof the worlds interesting, so I
will.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
I'll let you choose which one.
Well, I've never seen more ofthe worlds.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
You have seen castaway, though, so I'm
guessing you're gonna have tochoose the new one.
Is there an old one?
Oh?

Speaker 3 (56:42):
fuck, yeah, okay, yeah, probably not uh, not the
old one, I'm talking tom cruise.
Yeah, okay, I figured cool,cool cool mr tooth in the middle
himself yeah, it's fuckingweird dude like why is he has
enough money for braces?

Speaker 1 (56:59):
why does he have a tooth in the middle?
Okay, I was gonna say mr uhscientology himself, have you?
Have you heard uh russellbrands?
uh, talk about that about whichabout uh, tom cruise and
scientology no yeah, russellbrand was talking to a comedian
and he was basically saying hewas like you know, I was talking
to Tom Cruise and I was, youknow, saying like oh, you know,

(57:22):
you're so great, you're soawesome, you know all the things
you have to say in order tokeep a job in Hollywood.
And at one point he was like wewere.
He was like I know that he'sinto Scientology and I'm curious
.
So every time I would talk tohim I would casually try to
bring it up, and so I'd just sayshit like oh, you know, if only
there was something deeper outthere.

(57:43):
No, okay, if only, you know, ifonly there was some answers to
the universe.
And he was like and so the talkshow host was like anything.
He was like no, nothing.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
And so they were laughing and it was like but I'm
like super offended like howbad does it have to be that a
fucking cult is like they lookat me and they're like not you,
yeah that's oh, my god.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
I see videos all the time about, uh, scientology.
And there's this guy who, likejust he, walks past the
scientology building and theyalways close the doors.
They're like, oh oh yeah, thisguy he's, he like walks up to a
person.
He's like oh hi, miriam, it'sbeen a while.
She walks inside, fuckingbriskly, shuts the doors.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
He loves to.
He basically just talksScientology with them and just
fucking shuts down all theirdiscussions.
They hate it.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Well, the thing that cracks me up is from the
eighties.
I remember being sick, when Iwould be sick and I'd be
watching TV.
There's only a few things I canremember.
Right Price is right, and thenit goes to After Price is Right.
It was the last good thing thatwas on, Then it was all soap
operas and then it was I thoughtyou said Price is Right was the
last good thing.

(59:05):
Yeah, I didn't watch soapoperas.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
You didn't watch A Day in Our Lives.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I knew the day of the kids' day was starting to begin
again when Gilligan's Islandcame on, and it was all the way
through that that I would seethese commercials for Dianetics.
That's the L Ron Hubbard book.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
He's the founder for Scientology and it was like all
of it started in science fiction, in the 80s he literally made
like alien books and it was likedamn.
It started in science fictionin the 80s.
Yeah, he literally made likealien books and it was like damn
none of these are scienceDianetics.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Let me just make a cult.
Exactly, let me just make it areligion and everyone's like, oh
, now I'm into it, I'm in Dudethis stuff man Like yeah, fuck
yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
They can't drink water they're allergic to water.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
When you said it was fiction, not really interested.
When you say it's real.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Religion.
Okay, this movie but instead oflosing his faith in God, it's
in Scientology.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Then he sees the alien he's like it's true, yes,
and then yeah, anyways, and thenthey kill's like it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Yes and then, yeah, Anyways and then they kill him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Winner's speech.
Thank you all for this amazingwin.
The tinfoil hat really pulledthrough.
I knew it would.
I was kind of figuring maybeone of us was on the same page,
but none of us were on the samepage.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
It was just only me with the tinfoil hat.
The thought didn't even crossmy mind not even worse.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Yeah it, uh it.
Actually it doubles as a, uh,really big wine glass.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
You just rossi lose your speech, alex I know that
all of you in the chat and allof you listeners wanted me to
win and I appreciate all of yoursupport.
You know there's nothing we cando against these oligarchs who
operate against us and make surethat we lose and rig the votes,

(01:01:05):
you know, josh, and submitthese last minute votes all of a
sudden, leave them alone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
These 1 am votes.
These 1 am votes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
You know how it goes Chat, chat.
We'll get them next time.
Until then, host uh, stay alive.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Thank you.