November 14, 2025 • 49 mins
Three teenagers are taken. A man with 23 personalities holds the key. And somewhere between adrenaline, trauma, and belief, a monster takes shape. We pull Split apart scene by scene to ask the questions the movie dares us to consider: what’s real about Dissociative Identity Disorder, what’s pure cinematic myth, and how should a survivor respond when seconds count.
We start with the craft. James McAvoy’s performance is a clinic in subtlety—posture shifts, eye focus, compulsive tidying, even a pulsing vein that signals Dennis before the script tells you. We connect those choices to the film’s larger world, tracing threads back to Unbreakable and forward to Glass, and debate the line between a grounded thriller and a superhuman fable. The “Beast” stretches plausibility, but we explore why the idea resonates: the brain’s role in pain tolerance, stress responses, and the way belief can change behavior—if not biology.
Then we get practical. The rule we hammer home: never go to a second location. We analyze the missed opportunities the characters had—striking once and fleeing, hiding in predictable spots, dropping improvised weapons too soon—and translate them into tactics that work in real life. Target small, fragile points like eyes, throat, and fingers. Use what’s around you: chairs, bottles, cleaning agents. Make noise, leave DNA, and if disgust helps, weaponize it. Unpredictability can break a predator’s selection process, but nothing is guaranteed, so stack the odds with decisive action.
Underneath the thrills lies a harder truth: trauma shapes people in complex ways. The film humanizes Kevin without excusing violence, and Casey recognizes the scars because she carries her own. That tension—empathy without naivete—fuels a deeper takeaway: prepare your mind now, so your body knows what to do when fear floods your system. If you’re into survival strategy, film analysis, and the messy intersection of psychology and action, this one will stay with you.
If this breakdown got you thinking, follow the show, share it with a friend who loves smart thrillers, and drop a review with your biggest takeaway or question—we’ll feature the best in a future episode.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:25):
Hello, survivors, and welcome to another episode
of Will You Survive the Podcast?
Today, I uh just for today, I'mEric, and I'm joined by my
co-hosts, Alex.
That's me, and TJ.
That's me.
And I'm in Hedwig.
(00:46):
I have Bluthock.
SPEAKER_03 (00:48):
That's right.
Yes, you do.
SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
So that that that's you know, like if you know, you
know.
That's from a movie that wewatched called Split.
Split.
Which is an M nightShamalamanaman movie, which uh I
uh was highly talking up, and Ithink I stand by it.
I I saw this movie a very longtime ago, but I think I stand by
(01:11):
it.
Uh specifically that I wassaying, I think the main actor,
James McAvoy, yes, McAvoy.
James McAvoy is phenomenal.
SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
Yeah, he was pretty legit.
He was great.
And and really, I just wanted tobring up the fact that if I talk
a little higher like this, itreally just sounds like uh Mike
Tyson.
I know the demons, man.
SPEAKER_00 (01:34):
I was literally gonna say that you're uh you're
like slowly morphing into Tyson.
So I took no notes on thismovie, and I I watched this
movie for the first time inyears again.
I've not the first time, butthis is like my fourth time.
Wow.
This is like my third time everwatching it.
So I kind of was likeremembering a lot of it as we as
(01:55):
I was watching.
Um, but yeah, I I honestly Istand by it.
I think this movie isincredible.
Essentially, uh, do you want toread us the overview of the
movie?
Sure.
SPEAKER_03 (02:04):
Though Kevin has evidenced 23 personalities to
his trusted psychiatrist, Dr.
Fletcher.
There remains one stillsubmerged who is set to
materialize and dominate all ofthe others.
Compelled to abduct threeteenage girls, led by the
willful observant Casey, Kevinreaches a war for survival among
all of those contained withinhim, as well as everyone around
(02:27):
him, as the walls between hiscompartments shatter.
SPEAKER_01 (02:30):
Wrong, he was going for two teenage girls.
She just so happened to bethere.
Did you he was following the twofor multiple weeks?
SPEAKER_00 (02:40):
Yeah, good point.
Do you happen to know do youhappen to know the disease name
again?
Uh DID.
Oh, it was Yeah, but what doesDID stand for?
SPEAKER_01 (02:50):
Associative Identity Disorder.
SPEAKER_00 (02:52):
So that's what he has, except it's kind of a more
fantastical version of it.
Basically, this movie, well, Imean, the main premise of it is
that this guy has multiplepersonalities, but each
personality is like an entirelydifferent version.
(03:12):
But this is like exaggerated.
Oh yeah, like this is like asupernatural version of it.
SPEAKER_01 (03:17):
That's like true.
Like they'll they're they'recalled altars, like when you
have multiple people, you know?
And that's kind of true.
I I've I've heard from like fromthe internet that like some of
it's pretty factual, but like alot of it's fantastical.
SPEAKER_00 (03:33):
Yeah, the stuff where it's like um, I'm pretty
sure the stuff where it's like,oh, this personality needs
insulin and the and the rest ofthem don't.
I I don't think that's that it'sthat's that's not it's somewhat
accurate.
SPEAKER_01 (03:45):
I because I did watch some videos on it too.
It's somewhat-ish like accurate.
Like I don't think they wouldneed that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:51):
I want to preface that we are not doctors.
I know nothing really aboutthis.
Uh this kind of total guessing,but from what I know, which is
kind of a general overview.
One of them needed I don't thinkit's quite like that.
Well, I could I could see thatkind of thing.
That's a thing, I think.
But things where it's like thispersonality has diabetes, but
the rest of them don't.
Yeah.
And this one has high bloodpressure, but the rest of them
(04:12):
don't.
Or like, oh, this one's blind,this one's not.
Yeah, well, even that stuff Icould kind of see because your
brain could be pretty powerful.
But the things where it's likeyou're you're diabetic, that's
not really like a brain thing,as much as that's just your body
is no longer producing insulin.
But I could see something beinglike, This personality is blind,
and your brain is powerfulenough to kind of shut that off
(04:35):
if it's really messed up.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (04:37):
At this point, I'm kind of falling.
This is relevant.
So, Sam, one of our survivorsand longtime subscriber,
comments very relevant, that canbe accurate, where one could
hypochondriacish medical issuesthat others don't.
SPEAKER_00 (04:51):
See, I could see that.
SPEAKER_03 (04:52):
I could see one being like a hypochondriac, um,
but I also put on that is thebrain controls everything in the
body.
Could the brain now this is aquestion, not a not a definitive
statement.
Could the brain control thingslike the pancreas and say stop
producing insulin?
SPEAKER_01 (05:10):
It can do some crazy shit.
Like there's people who likewake up speaking Chinese.
SPEAKER_03 (05:16):
I've heard that.
That's like a brain trauma, andthey wake up and they're
speaking another language andthey don't know that they're
speaking another language.
SPEAKER_00 (05:24):
Yeah, I mean it kind of like there's another movie
that kind of touches on thispremise.
I think it's Lucy with ScarlettJohansson.
Great movie.
SPEAKER_03 (05:30):
She she uh uses some chemical supplement, right?
SPEAKER_01 (05:36):
There's also like the Morgan Freeman's in it, and
he's all like, Yeah, you can usea hundred percent of your brain.
SPEAKER_00 (05:41):
There's also uh limitless.
What a limitless pill would becrazy.
SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
Yeah.
There's also unbreakable.
Never seen that.
Okay.
No, you should because it'sconnected to this.
Did you know that?
Uh to split?
Did you know split's a sequel?
SPEAKER_00 (05:55):
Yeah, it well, isn't there a movie called Mr.
Glass?
SPEAKER_01 (05:58):
Yeah.
So we we can get down to thatlater.
Um, but what I was gonna say isabout the DID thing.
I was watching some videos withsome people who have it, and
this one girl was like, See, thecraziest thing is that you just
kind of wake up in a place youweren't, you just kind of come
to the front randomly, and she'slike, That's scary.
Cause like, what if one of myalters has severe depression and
(06:20):
decides to uh off themselves?
SPEAKER_03 (06:22):
Yep.
Now this is completelycompletely irrelevant to this,
but talking about the live, Ihave no stickers on my live.
I have no green screen, butTikTok just told me that my
access to green screen andstickers is suspended for a day
because I shouldn't be using itwhile I'm promoting content.
(06:43):
They keep fucking restricting mefor absolutely no fucking
reason.
I did a video where I waswalking, I was walking and
talking and did a um asubscription sticker on my on my
post, and they suspended the thesubscription sticker saying that
it wasn't original content.
I'm like, this is fuckingbullshit.
What are you talking about?
(07:04):
This is original.
I was talking about code Blackthe Truth, and they freaking
suspended uh like took it off.
I appealed, and they're like,nope.
SPEAKER_01 (07:12):
Listen, I love the Chinese government.
I fucking damn.
I love Xi Jinping or whateverthe fuck the president's name
is.
I love it.
Oh he does like Winnie the Pooh.
He's got the strategy.
Our supreme leader.
SPEAKER_03 (07:26):
Oh, they've been they've been bought out.
Whoa, man.
It's official.
It's too official.
SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
Well then fuck that guy.
SPEAKER_03 (07:35):
It's American, uh, American business is the
majority stakeholder.
Well screw Xi Jinping.
SPEAKER_01 (07:40):
Yeah, fuck that Winnie the Pooh looking ass.
SPEAKER_00 (07:42):
Oh they just hate us, they just hate us because
they ain't us.
SPEAKER_03 (07:47):
This is American, this is American companies who
are restricting us for nofucking reason.
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
Well, as they should.
No, I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_03 (07:55):
I'm wearing the damn hat.
I'm not I'm moving around andI'm talking, I'm swiveling in
the chair so that they don'tthink that freaking stationary.
Yeah, but that's that's you.
I'm doing a co-host.
SPEAKER_01 (08:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (08:07):
Why would they restrict me for someone else
doing it?
It's this is just absurd.
Well, because it's on yourstream.
You would think that they wouldlike to do it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
We should get a sponsor from the people who make
our microphones.
Let's try that.
Sony?
Toner.
Sony?
Is it Sony?
No.
Uh Fifine.
FeeFine.
Yeah, no, toner is my last one.
SPEAKER_03 (08:28):
Guilty by association.
I've heard that before.
He's with one of them.
SPEAKER_01 (08:32):
You know what it is?
SPEAKER_03 (08:33):
You know what it is?
TikTok doesn't like them blackfolk.
That's what it is.
SPEAKER_00 (08:36):
TikTok is is uh that's that's on WYS, maybe
well, now that it's an Americancompany, it makes sense.
SPEAKER_01 (08:45):
Makes a lot of sense, sadly.
SPEAKER_03 (08:47):
It's it's them black and brown folk.
See?
So I'm not I guess I'm notshowing enough skin to be brown.
Your skin color is dependent onhow much skin you're showing.
Well, because they can't see.
I'll just bleach my skin.
I that's not a why, TJ, Samsays.
SPEAKER_00 (09:03):
It is a why.
His arm is the long part.
Oh, his arm is the leg?
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes no sense forour audio listeners when we just
want to do a ring.
Yeah, no, but like hear me out.
I know.
Like, I know.
SPEAKER_01 (09:14):
I just wanted to lie.
That's the same thing.
Yeah, no, no, no, we got it, TJ.
TJ's in the middle.
TJ, we got it.
Do we got it?
Y'all are over here talkingabout some other shit.
I'm over here turning throughthe split.
I have no control gear.
Dude, I fucking love this movie.
I wanted to talk fucking gamewith this movie.
Did you notice before thefucking Wait, TJ?
SPEAKER_03 (09:39):
TJ.
SPEAKER_00 (09:40):
I swear to God.
SPEAKER_03 (09:41):
Clap because we're coming back in after that round.
SPEAKER_00 (09:43):
No, we're gonna leave it in.
We were I'm not gonna stay upthat late.
That's part of it.
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
Did you notice before the therapist noticed
that he was not Barry?
Yeah.
He was Dennis.
SPEAKER_03 (09:55):
I did not.
No.
SPEAKER_01 (09:57):
So I did not pay attention because Dennis has
like he has like a fixation.
SPEAKER_03 (10:02):
Oh dude! That's what it was.
I got a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01 (10:06):
He was walking around and he was fixing shit.
And she was like, Are youlooking for something?
And he's like, No, I'm justlooking around or whatever.
But he's literally likeadjusting shit on tables and
pushing books back in.
SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
The attention to detail.
That was the OCD, right?
The attention to detail on thepersonalities is was was very,
very well done.
SPEAKER_03 (10:27):
Oh yeah, it was the way his face shifts to like but
you just pointed out what Icompletely missed is that vein.
I saw it at the very end.
Yeah.
Dennis always had the vein out.
I did not see that in the likeearlier when he was in her
office.
And it was always there.
(10:47):
It was it was Barry who was theone who was emailing her when
she kept thinking it was Dennis.
SPEAKER_00 (10:53):
Barry was like the rational same one.
Which one was the one who wasdoing right away?
We didn't even see it.
In the very first emergencysession, when she the very first
therapy session where or that wesaw, uh where she was like, I
don't think I'm talking toBarry.
And and he was like, Yeah, youare, and she was like, No, I
(11:15):
don't think so.
And then she backed off and shewas like, Oh, forgive me, I'm
just supposed to challenge you.
Right.
But she clocked it right away.
She's like, This isn't thisisn't him.
Yeah.
And she got him to admit it onthe on the second one.
SPEAKER_01 (11:26):
Yeah, and then she noticed when like she went to
the dude with the securitycameras, and she noticed he
walked through the trash insteadof walking around it.
SPEAKER_00 (11:35):
I loved that detail.
Right.
She was like a normal personwould walk around it.
He's trying to he put on a show.
SPEAKER_03 (11:41):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (11:41):
Like, oh, look, I don't mind, I'm not OCD.
I don't mind stepping throughthe trash.
SPEAKER_03 (11:46):
Which that's another thing that is interesting about
the DID that they point out inthis, that one character could
be so heavily affected by OCD,but not the others, especially
not Hedwig.
SPEAKER_00 (12:00):
Yeah, that see, that's the kind of stuff where I
do think that stuff is accurate.
SPEAKER_03 (12:04):
It makes sense.
It's all in the brain.
SPEAKER_00 (12:06):
That that stuff does seem accurate.
It's just the the fantasticalstuff in this movie, like the
him literally becoming a monsterwho can bend the bars of a of a
zoo cage, um, like not dyingfrom getting shot twice in the
chest.
SPEAKER_01 (12:24):
In the universe, it makes like sense though, because
like in real life, there arestories of like moms picking
cars off kids, type shit wherethe brain is.
Yeah, but there's nothing tolike do stuff, you know?
SPEAKER_00 (12:38):
Yes, but there's not stories of somebody being so
crazed that their skin deflectsthe shp.
What?
PCP, not deflects, but no, youdon't get shot twice by a
shotgun and not have any nothave any damage.
You just have because they justlike hit the surface of your
skin and they didn't go through.
No, nothing gives you iron skinlike that.
(13:00):
See what I what I was that'sfantastical.
That's what I was wondering wassupernatural the movie.
SPEAKER_03 (13:05):
Did it actually like so they actually showed that it
didn't penetrate his skin?
SPEAKER_00 (13:09):
Yeah, at the very end, uh when he's talking in the
mirror and all the personalitiesare swapping rapidly.
SPEAKER_03 (13:14):
Because I thought he touched and he was like, ow!
SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
No, no, they they were saying, like, look, didn't
even go through.
SPEAKER_03 (13:21):
Interesting.
What if it was just bird shot?
That's see, that was what Ithought.
That was exactly what I thought.
SPEAKER_01 (13:28):
What if they bought like a really light like case of
shells, you know?
And just like just point blankis still gonna be.
SPEAKER_03 (13:38):
For sure.
Like and what if it was justsaltpeter?
It could have been.
That could be the only thing.
SPEAKER_00 (13:45):
I mean, it's it would, but but but the only
reason I would say no to that isbecause he clearly had like the
the little beads uh in his skin.
Like you can see where he gotshot.
SPEAKER_03 (13:55):
Definitely agree that uh that chemalilian.
God, now that I said his name?
What is his real name?
M.
Night Shallamelin.
Stop! M.
Night Shalian.
The uh I didn't get it until theend in the credits that it was a
supernatural thing when theybrought up in the diner there
(14:17):
was Bruce Willis, you know.
Oh, glass, Mr.
Glass.
SPEAKER_01 (14:20):
But have you seen Unbreakable Alex?
SPEAKER_03 (14:23):
I did.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
Have you seen the sequel to this, the Mr.
Glass?
I have not.
I haven't either.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (14:29):
Well, I think I I thought I thought uh glass came
out before this.
SPEAKER_01 (14:33):
Glass came out after this.
SPEAKER_03 (14:34):
Did it really?
It's okay.
SPEAKER_01 (14:36):
It's a big like final endgame moment, I guess.
Um anyways, I heard it was ass.
SPEAKER_00 (14:41):
But yeah, I I don't remember hearing anything good
about that one.
SPEAKER_01 (14:45):
Spoiler alert to never mind, it's old.
Unbreakable.
Okay, right?
Okay.
Starts off.
All right.
Main guy, Bruce Willis, he wasin a train accident.
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (14:54):
Only one untouched.
SPEAKER_01 (14:55):
The main character in split Kevin.
Yep.
What happened to his father?
He left on the train.
I I didn't even catch thatdetail to be honest.
That's so Mr.
Glass killed his dad.
So that's like the connectionthere.
Yeah.
So then I guess that's why theylike they beef in the the next
one.
Which the next one isn't reallylike a survival movie.
(15:17):
It's more like a I don't know.
I recommend Unbreakable.
I recommend this.
I don't recommend the next one.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
So here's a a detail.
This is gonna get kind of darkbecause this movie was a little
dark at times.
Uh and I don't even know if Iwant to bring this up.
It's uncomfy, but it is, Ithink, important, especially for
for girls.
Um when he okay.
Um, when he first took one ofthe girls out of the room and
she ran up to the main uh whatwas the main what was Anya
(15:42):
Taylor Joy's character?
SPEAKER_01 (15:44):
I don't know.
That was just Anya Taylor Joy'scharacter.
I cannot remember.
SPEAKER_00 (15:48):
She was she was Casey Cook.
One of the girls ran up to Caseyas as the uh guy was about to
grab her and she said, pee onyourself.
SPEAKER_04 (15:58):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
And nice little detail there.
Uh because I I I I do know aboutthat.
I have heard that that's uh away to deter.
Um and it did, it worked.
But that's because his OCD seemslike ew.
So I just thought that was kindof uh I mean it it is
unfortunate that that is that'sthat's a survival tip or a
survival podcast.
There's a survival tip.
SPEAKER_03 (16:21):
Here's a a point to the movie here.
Mr.
Glass is the opposite, his bonesshatter versus Bruce, never
sick, never injured.
SPEAKER_01 (16:29):
And that that was like the whole thing with
Unbreakable was like Mr.
Glass was like looking for hisopposite.
SPEAKER_03 (16:37):
So what confused me was I had thought that Kevin's
dad died of a heart attack whenhis uncle came and was like, um,
that was unintelligent.
SPEAKER_00 (16:49):
Oh, you're right, you're right.
Oh, that was you're right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:51):
That was.
I'm sorry.
It it completely confused mewhen they did that that
flashback.
Now it was the end of the moviethat I finally understood when
uh when uh the beast saw her andsaw the marks on her.
Now I didn't understand what themarks meant until he had said
that uh she was pure of heart.
And I was like, oh no wonderwhat he's doing.
SPEAKER_01 (17:13):
That's that's because his what his mom did to
him.
So like there was that littlecutaway when she said his full
name, um, Kevin, whatever thefuck.
SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
Kevin Wendell Crum.
SPEAKER_01 (17:24):
That it like it cut to his mom screaming at him that
he like made a mess.
And so it's because of that.
SPEAKER_03 (17:32):
Which seemed valid.
That was so dark because the theuh let that go right by.
What's that?
SPEAKER_00 (17:41):
I was gonna let it slip.
That's fine.
Now I just seem crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (17:45):
Now I want to know.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
I said, which seems valid.
Oh, she's about to beat him witha wire hanger.
SPEAKER_01 (17:52):
Don't make a mess.
I'd like yeah, because of hisdad dying, he got left with his
abusive mother.
SPEAKER_03 (18:01):
But that that is what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01 (18:02):
She wouldn't have been abusive if he didn't make a
mess.
SPEAKER_00 (18:04):
That's what he made me a little confused.
Duh.
SPEAKER_03 (18:07):
And it was so dark.
It was so dark at the end whenthey said uh Kevin is sleeping,
he's far away.
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
And that's why Dennis is hypochondriac cleaner.
SPEAKER_00 (18:17):
Oh, because his mom kissed that.
That's a good connection.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (18:24):
Even nervous.
Just standing there in uh juststanding there in the doctor's
office, he couldn't leaveanything uh out of line, out of
order.
SPEAKER_00 (18:34):
Can we talk about the way that the doctor was
KO'd?
Oh, that was pretty insane.
That's out.
That seems like a pretty awfulway.
I also die instantly.
SPEAKER_01 (18:46):
That's not very fantastical.
I I feel like I could squeeze awhole lady.
SPEAKER_00 (18:49):
Yeah, I I was gonna say that that is like the least
uh like supernatural.
I think that's a like arealistic way.
I could fucking do that.
Are you okay?
SPEAKER_03 (19:00):
At a zoo.
At a zoo.
SPEAKER_01 (19:02):
These are designs for like chaperillas and shit.
SPEAKER_03 (19:04):
I'm just gonna like about that is it brings forward
the thought that we only controla small percent of our brain 10%
of the time, right?
There's no hundred percentcontrol.
The the premise behind this ishow much how much more could our
bodies do if our brains had fullcapacity.
SPEAKER_00 (19:27):
I believe I don't think that was the premise.
I think that's the premise ofLucy.
I think this movie was just morelike, well, maybe, maybe it is a
little bit of that.
SPEAKER_01 (19:36):
They didn't really say that peak human condition,
yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:40):
But it was more just like if we believe it hard
enough, it becomes real.
SPEAKER_01 (19:45):
If we use 100% of our brains, let's call it
seizure.
SPEAKER_03 (19:49):
Well, because we're incapable, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
Let's just call seizure.
You go ahead and you go aheadand try.
We're just one seizure away fromour perfect selves.
Yeah, guys, go give yourself ano everybody don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
Everybody try it, dude.
Go on YouTube, look at the VOD.
We're gonna play some flashinglights.
SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
Let us know what happens when you wake up if you
wake up, they'll be okay.
They'll they'll wake up and havesuperpowers.
SPEAKER_01 (20:17):
I'm this is so if they if they don't wake up,
well, they won't be able tounfollow.
SPEAKER_03 (20:23):
Let me uh that's true.
We'll have permanent followers.
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That's how that's how Eric'ssurviving.
I am the zombie.
Guys, I'm gonna be honest.
We've been having like threedifferent conversations a lot of
this tonight.
Listen, listen.
We skipped a week.
It's rough right now.
They won't notice, but is thereany point in this movie that you
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want to talk about, Alex?
SPEAKER_03 (21:15):
Well, I think we we've covered a couple of the
the spots that mo intrigued memost was number one, the medical
complications between thedifferent patients.
Like when when I think that wasHedwig, right, who had diabetes,
and he was explaining how couldhow could it just be multiple
personality disorder if I'm theonly one who needs this.
SPEAKER_00 (21:35):
I don't think that was Hedwig.
I think that was anotherpersonality that we never really
met.
I think it was a girl too long.
Was it Jade?
Something like that.
It was one of those.
SPEAKER_01 (21:43):
It's very sassy.
SPEAKER_03 (21:44):
You know what?
Okay, Sam deserves this shoutout.
Three different conversations isperfect since three different
movies.
I would say three differentconversations is perfect because
of all the personalities we arein this movie.
Split.
SPEAKER_00 (21:57):
Um make a we we are Kevin.
Make an awful image of the threeof our faces combined.
I could do that.
Please don't.
I'll do that.
No, please don't.
Seriously, please don't.
It'll make me disturbed.
SPEAKER_03 (22:07):
Use Necric.
No, we have Hydric.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
It's all of us.
Hydric does exist, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (22:17):
It does exist, yeah, but it's it'll be all my
co-workers were obsessed with uhNecrick and Hydric and Jade is
the one who is diabetic.
SPEAKER_03 (22:24):
Okay, so we did meet Jade.
So I I that was the part that Ihad a hard time following.
I didn't know who was talkingall the time.
And then it wasn't until TJ justpointed out the difference
between Barry and Dennis, theveins.
SPEAKER_00 (22:41):
Oh yeah, TJ did that.
SPEAKER_01 (22:42):
Oh, was that you?
Well, I brought up the veins.
SPEAKER_00 (22:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:48):
Yeah, but you're did I give him your thunder?
No, it's okay.
I don't I don't I don't think Ibrought that.
Don't even start doing thatbecause I brought up the his
face switching when he's likeyou can you can see which one it
is.
Like when when she finallyrealized that it was Dennis and
(23:11):
not Barry, you could physicallysee like the posture change and
like his you know?
And that's called good acting.
SPEAKER_00 (23:20):
Yeah, Jane McGow is a really good actor.
Underrated.
I think so.
Didn't he have a big filmrecently?
Did he?
I don't know.
I think so.
SPEAKER_03 (23:31):
I don't remember.
SPEAKER_00 (23:33):
I think he just had a like pretty recently just did
a a big film.
Clearly he didn't wasn't thatgreat.
I don't think I follow it.
SPEAKER_03 (23:44):
I don't remember, but I can find out right real
quick.
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
Yeah, it was the last movie he was in.
Real quick.
Last movie he was in would be uh2025 California Schemin.
That wasn't it.
Speak no evil.
Ah, that one.
That one?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:05):
You know who else had a really mid movie?
Because he's fucking mid DwayneJohnson.
Box office is not looking goodfor the smashing machine.
You tried really acting and itreally didn't work.
SPEAKER_03 (24:20):
Oh, you know what?
It looked really good.
You are absolutely right.
This guy is.
SPEAKER_01 (24:24):
Nobody wants to go fucking see it though.
SPEAKER_03 (24:27):
He is a chamel chameleon.
unknown (24:31):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
James McAvoy.
He was uh Bill in It Chapter 2.
SPEAKER_00 (24:36):
Yeah, in the first time.
In the remake.
That just blew me away.
He's an X-Men First Class.
Oh wow.
He's in the Chronicles ofNarnia.
SPEAKER_01 (24:45):
I forgot he's fucking mystery tonist.
SPEAKER_03 (24:49):
Oh he is! Holy crap.
SPEAKER_01 (24:53):
But why is his name James when there's only one of
them?
SPEAKER_00 (24:57):
Days of Future, yeah.
His name should be Jane.
I hate that joke.
It's so funny.
Why do they call him James whenthere's only one of them?
SPEAKER_01 (25:08):
Should just be James.
Oh yeah.
One of my favorite, I literallyjust watched this the other day.
Bro, Wanted, dude?
I fucking love Wanted.
SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
Yo, my favorite Nomeo and Juliet.
He was in that one.
He was Nomeo.
Is that really a favorite ofyours?
No.
Oh.
I do like that movie, but Iwouldn't say favorite of it.
SPEAKER_03 (25:26):
Because I think that was you who got he was in Itchy.
SPEAKER_01 (25:31):
He's in Deadpool 2.
Well, yeah, for the split secondbecause he plays the professor.
SPEAKER_03 (25:38):
So I got I got completely knocked off knocked
off guard in this movie becauseas I was saying, I didn't even
know who was talking most of thetime.
So I was playing catch up theentire movie, trying to figure
out who was talking, who who amI listening to.
SPEAKER_00 (25:55):
So you were like pretty much in the same
perspective as um Casey.
SPEAKER_03 (26:00):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (26:01):
Where you didn't know what the fuck was going on.
SPEAKER_03 (26:03):
I was trying to to find out who was talking, and I
was kind of guessing here andthere.
Uh the only one that I thoughtnow only because of the movie
magic they were playing thatominous music when he was
talking to the doctor, and shewas like, This isn't Dennis, is
it?
And he's like, No, it is.
This is Dennis.
(26:24):
And he's trying to convince her.
I was like, okay, well, they'reletting me know that there's
something wrong here.
SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
Like this this isn't who You know, I maybe I wouldn't
actually catch it, but I thinkin this specific scene, even if
there wasn't music, I think Iwould have caught it.
Because a lot of his behaviors,it it's kind of tricky because
it's like one of thosesituations where someone's like,
Oh my god, did you fart?
(26:51):
And no matter what you say now,it's gonna seem like you farted.
If you're like, no, I didn'tfart, everyone's gonna be like,
dude, you farted.
SPEAKER_03 (27:01):
So it's it was kind of like TJ, did you fart?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:07):
So?
Well, so it's it's kind of likethat situation where um she's
like, This isn't this isn'tBarry, is it?
And it's so it's like no matterwhat you say at that point, kind
of seems like maybe you'retrapped in a corner where it's
like, well, now no matter what Isay, you're you're not gonna
believe me.
Right.
But his whole like um, look,look, I'll I'll do this.
(27:27):
I'll I'll prove I'll prove thatI'm Barry.
Look, look, see, see Barry woulddo that.
Like it was very much likeyou're trying too hard.
SPEAKER_03 (27:34):
But it was it was at that point that I finally caught
on.
She had already told us, like, Ibelieved the doctor knew who she
was talking to.
SPEAKER_00 (27:43):
Oh, yeah, because at that point we had only seen like
two of his personalities, so wehad no idea.
SPEAKER_03 (27:48):
When you're when you're watching it and you see
this guy doing this performance,I had no clue.
Like, there was no context cluefor why she was telling him,
This isn't Dennis, is it?
Yeah.
And he's like, Why would you saythat?
SPEAKER_00 (28:02):
You know what's crazy?
He is an actor portraying acharacter pretending to be
another character, right?
Right.
Fucking awesome.
That's a lot of thought all theway through.
That's why I'm I that's why Iseriously think like he was a
big thing.
SPEAKER_01 (28:21):
This was almost a comeback for Mr.
M Knight.
SPEAKER_00 (28:25):
Did he win, did uh James McAvoy win any awards for
this movie?
Because I feel like he shouldhave won something for this
movie.
Um like besides the the endingbeing just a little bit like
fantastical, supernatural, kindof silly, but the the rest of
the movie, his entire his actingit is just fucking phenomenal.
(28:50):
That's crazy.
Yeah, I feel like he should havewon an Oscar or something for
that.
unknown (28:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (28:55):
That was a crazy good performance.
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03 (28:58):
So um he won a he was only nominated for the Teen
Choice Awards.
SPEAKER_00 (29:06):
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (29:07):
Choice movie villain.
SPEAKER_00 (29:10):
Because the this acting is insane.
The the amount of thought, likeyou said, the the thought in
each character, in each uhpersonality, because he still
has to be Kevin, but he's alsoall these personalities within
Kevin.
Yeah.
And he really portrays thatstruggle and that fight between
(29:32):
all of them and then howdifferent they all are.
With the little things like justHedwood's, etc.
Yeah.
It is so indicative of Hedwig.
You know who you're talking to.
SPEAKER_03 (29:44):
See, the the I would say this is one of those movies
that left me with an eerie,unsettling feeling when the
police officer came to Casey atthe end and said, Your uncle's
here, and she just sat in theback of the car.
It was like you felt like shewas going from one cage to
another.
SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
Yeah.
She was like I guess.
Yeah, that's why she at thebeginning like was trying her
hardest not to get picked up.
She's just like, I'll take thebus.
SPEAKER_00 (30:16):
The uh the whatchamacallit, um oh the the
stare.
The stare that she was givingthat officer was very much like
like I just survived this.
And now you're sending methrough this and now I I'm going
basically into the samesituation.
Um it kind of I don't know Iwould like to think that she
(30:41):
fought at that point and saidsomething, but I mean can I also
think that maybe M.
SPEAKER_01 (30:47):
Making uncles the fucking weird fuckers, please?
SPEAKER_00 (30:53):
It's easy, just like it's so easy, just like uh
Russians are the bad guys.
It's such a trope.
I would like to think that shesaid something and kind of broke
that cycle, but I also kind ofthink that M.
Knight Shyamalan was like he I Ithink he wanted to portray that
whole leaving one prison intothe other kind of thing.
(31:13):
I think she should be able to doit.
Where it was like where she hashope and then it it's just kind
of crushed.
SPEAKER_03 (31:18):
I think Sam already said she does.
Yeah.
But you're you already saidwe're not covering the next one.
SPEAKER_01 (31:25):
That's up to you guys.
I'm not gonna do it, but I meanit's not really like a survival
movie.
You know, like unbreakable isn'teither.
Like I really want to watchUnbreakable, but it's more of
like a superhero movie.
SPEAKER_03 (31:42):
Which that also leads me to the uh number one, I
I would question theeffectiveness of such an agent
that he was using.
Oh yeah.
That what is that?
He could just simply put on adust mask and didn't even seal
(32:02):
it to his nose.
Right.
And then when he hit the doctorwith it, he just covered his
face with a cloth.
Like that's not what is that?
That's not like um it's notchloroform.
SPEAKER_01 (32:15):
Maybe it's something for animals because he worked at
a zoo.
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
Could be.
Oh, maybe.
Could be, but I'm I'm stillcurious as well.
SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
Like an aerosol can too, so it must be like a mass
produced.
SPEAKER_00 (32:29):
Yeah.
Cause I'm thinking like there'shalt spray, which I have, but it
that's basically like temporarypepper spray.
That's it.
It's not it doesn't knock peopleout.
SPEAKER_03 (32:40):
Back makes you back up, you know.
And so that was one of the beefsI had with uh that beginning
scene.
And two was why it took her solong to get out of the car.
SPEAKER_00 (32:52):
It seemed like Oh my for real.
She still could have got out,even once he noticed, she had
like a full 30 seconds.
SPEAKER_03 (32:59):
And it was like my my beef with it is you guys all
I've already said this on thepodcast many times.
In a kidnapping situation, neverlet it get past step one.
Yeah, it's never gonna getbetter than right at that
moment.
I mean, those poor girls, theydidn't survive the uh the
kidnapping.
SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
Don't let yourself get taken to the second
location.
SPEAKER_03 (33:21):
Don't let yourself get taken.
It's it's not gonna get thereare worse things than death.
SPEAKER_01 (33:27):
Fight, don't be nice, be rude.
SPEAKER_03 (33:30):
They had the right idea after.
SPEAKER_01 (33:32):
Fight dirty.
SPEAKER_03 (33:34):
And and I would suspect, I mean, this is a good
wake-up call to somebody pointsa spray bottle at you, uh,
you're probably gonna need tohold your breath right away.
Yeah.
What would the effect?
Pocket fent.
SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
What?
Yeah, dust right in their eyes.
You you put it in a pipe, youyou light it, you stick in their
mouth.
What are you gonna do now?
Rendered useless.
Rendered useless, Batman.
No, and now you lean.
(34:11):
Next movie in the sequel, I'llget lean.
SPEAKER_02 (34:20):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (34:25):
Another Hollywood celebrity lost a drug addiction.
SPEAKER_01 (34:30):
Oh my god.
James McAlvoy leaning.
And he has blue skin.
SPEAKER_00 (34:39):
Another celebrity roaming the streets of Los
Santos.
SPEAKER_01 (34:43):
Los Santos is crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (34:46):
Um yeah.
I mean, I I I agree.
Never let it get past uh theinitial location, never go to a
second location.
Um fight dirty.
I mean, go for the eyes, go forthe floor.
Go for go for the nuts, go foreverything weak, go for bite.
(35:06):
Chicks can kidnap too.
Punch that bitch in the boob.
Hard.
Hard as fuck.
Punch a guy in the in the ballsreally hard.
SPEAKER_01 (35:15):
Yeah, all it takes is a flick and I want to throw
up.
So imagine just full on dicktwist.
SPEAKER_00 (35:20):
Also, full punch throat or throat punch.
Oh yeah.
Throat punch.
SPEAKER_01 (35:24):
Right in the throat.
SPEAKER_00 (35:25):
Get someone in the jugular real good, that's pretty
uh incapacitating.
SPEAKER_03 (35:31):
There's there's methods that people should
always consider is if you're upagainst an opponent that's much
bigger than you, don't try totake on the opponent.
Take on an element of him that'ssmaller than you.
His eyes, his nose, his pinky,his thumb, whatever you can do.
SPEAKER_00 (35:48):
Be relentless.
SPEAKER_03 (35:49):
Go yeah, go after it with all of your might.
And you know what's the what'sthe um what's the effectiveness
of the assailant if you havebroken all of their fingers?
Uh what what are they able to doat that point?
But don't think that it's gonnaget better.
I'm not suggesting that ifsomebody's trying to kidnap you
(36:10):
on the sidewalk, that you aregoing to necessarily walk away
from that.
But my advice to my wife, I tellher, in regards to my kids, I
can deal with the knowledge ofsomebody unaliving her on the
sidewalk, taking her and holdingher without knowing where she
is, if she's still alive, ifthey're doing unspeakable things
(36:32):
to her and my kids.
That I can't handle.
So don't don't let it get paststep one.
You do whatever it takes topreserve your freedom.
SPEAKER_01 (36:41):
You know, God forbid.
Leave evidence that leaveevidence on them, scratch so you
get them under your nails.
That's right.
Fuck it, do whatever you gottado.
Also piss and shit yourself.
That'll help.
SPEAKER_03 (36:55):
That one too.
Get them busted, you know.
Protect the next, they're gonnabe a little bit more.
No full fucking rabbit mode, youwon't be their last.
SPEAKER_00 (37:01):
Yeah, I mean, like yeah, 100%.
Full rabid mode.
Just go, don't hold anythingback.
SPEAKER_01 (37:08):
Like you think a dude would want to take you if
you shit yourself and then reachin your pants and smear it on
his forehead?
I don't think he would.
SPEAKER_00 (37:14):
Yeah, you got I I have heard of outcrazing crazy.
Yeah.
That tends to repel them.
SPEAKER_03 (37:19):
Yeah, I should have uh I should have Corinne on the
podcast.
SPEAKER_01 (37:23):
Did you guys think that's something that they
taught her in Corinne uhdemonstrate your poop smear
method?
SPEAKER_03 (37:30):
No, it was actually a um it was a a person they had
in her understanding humansexuality class when she was
back in college, and they had auh SA survivor who went to
colleges and was talking aboutexactly what you just said, how
crazy they're crazy.
Um typically, statisticallyspeaking, SARs don't want
(37:53):
someone who's crazy, right?
There's that uh there's that Rstrength, right?
But as there the uh example thatshe gave, she's walking to her
car from this lecture, and onher way to the car, there was
somebody who was walking behindher, like following her, she
thought.
She started talking to herself,she started uh rambling, she
(38:16):
started screaming.
Start acting like Kevin.
Exactly.
She started acting like erraticand insane, and the person who
was following her happened to befrom the class that she had just
taught, and was like, I am so,you know, I the I was in the
class that you were just in, andI'm parked like past where you
are.
And she was like, Look, youknow, in the next class, look,
(38:38):
I'd rather look like a fool thanbe caught unawares and the worst
happened.
SPEAKER_00 (38:43):
She's like, Look, it works.
And the per the the perfectlynormal guy going like, Holy
shit, this chick is weird.
SPEAKER_03 (38:49):
And and that's exactly what the uh what the
attacker would do, the assaulterwould think the same thing.
This person's crazy.
I'm not gonna watch it.
That's exactly right.
Or or or a survivor, you know?
Yeah.
Uh where we use the term in adifferent in a different uh
capacity, and we want you all tosurvive, but uh better to be
(39:11):
safe than to be an SA survivor.
So act crazy.
Yeah.
Out crazy, they're crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (39:20):
Never fail.
SPEAKER_03 (39:21):
That's a good one.
SPEAKER_01 (39:22):
The peak.
Actually, don't take my word forit.
It might they might be intothat.
I'm gonna be 100%.
They come back.
Nothing's a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
You said it would work.
SPEAKER_03 (39:34):
Nothing's a hundred percent, but it's it's
statistical probabilities are inyour favor if you do all of
that.
But this was uh this was a darkepisode from the this movie.
I had no idea this movie evenexisted, and then I was
completely ignorant that it wasa part of Unbreakable.
SPEAKER_00 (39:52):
So what's your uh your rating of this movie?
SPEAKER_03 (39:54):
Out of five or out of ten?
SPEAKER_00 (39:56):
Out of ten.
SPEAKER_03 (39:56):
Out of ten, I'm gonna give this a solid six for
the whole the whole shenanigans.
Uh the things that I dockedpoints for.
I wasn't a I wasn't a fan of thecinematography.
I wasn't a fan of the sound.
Uh but as if we go just directlyinto the movie, I'm gonna give M
(40:19):
knight Chameleon uh like aneight out of ten for that story,
because that was insane, punintended.
SPEAKER_00 (40:26):
Honestly, I I I I agree kinda.
I would say that I I actuallydid I didn't mind the
cinematography of the audio, butI would say that the the writers
uh and the the people who wrotethe character the character
development or like the thecharacters and then along with
James McAvoy, just thatcharacter, whoever was a part of
(40:49):
the creative process to come upwith all the details of of Kevin
is it deserving of a lot ofawards because that was a crazy
very crazy interesting characterto to learn about thinking of sh
like discovering shit about youknow like how every character
(41:10):
fucking the reason Dennis is afucking you know OCD.
SPEAKER_03 (41:15):
Yeah, because of his uh yeah now I will say this
something that he did very wellthat I hate him for.
I I love the movie for this, butI hate Chameleon for doing this.
He did a fantastic job ofhumanizing Kevin, making him a
real human being that perhapsyou could even say he was a
(41:35):
product of his of hisupbringing, he had to survive
what he was going through, andhe was created into this
monster, if you will, justtrying to survive.
Yeah, I mean you and I loved andhated that.
SPEAKER_00 (41:49):
I I love that towards the end before the beast
comes out the second time, um,when he he tells her, like, once
he realizes like, oh, this gotout of hand, I'm not in control
anymore.
That he told her, like, here'swhere my pew is, here's where
the shells are um get it and me.
(42:10):
Like clear because he would herealized at that point, like, I
have no control, I can't standit.
SPEAKER_03 (42:14):
They took him over right away again.
SPEAKER_00 (42:16):
Yeah.
Um, oh, something I wanted tobring up really quick.
The girl hiding in the in the uhlocker.
I don't think that's ever a goodidea.
I think you just keep running.
Yeah.
Because if he knows you're notrunning anymore, you gotta be
somewhere.
Right.
So I I just I don't see thepoint in hiding.
Uh I would say the same thing.
SPEAKER_01 (42:36):
They way too they tried way too late to get out of
those rooms.
unknown (42:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:41):
I agree.
SPEAKER_01 (42:41):
You should have immediately started searching
for shit to be able to get out.
SPEAKER_00 (42:45):
Also, when they were in the kitchen, could have
easily just killed him.
SPEAKER_03 (42:49):
I you I think that that was the uh the trauma
response.
They were too afraid to try thethings that would actually work.
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
Like, but it's so frustrating because like it was
because uh for like the lastlike 40 minutes of the movie
before that, those two girls arelike, we have to do it, we have
to go crazy, we have to doeverything, and then smack him
in the back with a chair andthen run away.
Right, keep smacking, right?
SPEAKER_03 (43:12):
Smack him in the back when and then hit him with
the knife.
SPEAKER_00 (43:15):
When what's her face?
Um uh Casey was in the bedroomwith Hedwig and he came at her
with the bat and she got the bataway from him.
Grab the bat, don't stophitting.
Right.
Like there was a couple timeswhere I'm like, you could have
you could have gone out.
Right.
That was your opportunity rightthere.
SPEAKER_03 (43:32):
I agree.
Uh they but I I know they, youknow, Chameleon did that on
purpose.
Yeah, I mean, so we wanted us tofeel that anxiety of like uh you
know, running, but running inyour sleep, you know, your
sheets are trapped around yourlegs and you just can't run.
SPEAKER_00 (43:49):
Yeah, I would say that what's his face?
Uh Kevin had a a little bit ofplot armor.
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (43:56):
For sure.
SPEAKER_00 (43:57):
As you know, not counting the ending of the
Bullets Don't Hurt Me Anymore.
Yeah, I would agree.
I would agree.
SPEAKER_01 (44:05):
Not even counting that.
Also, was bro playing like whatwhat was bro's situation?
They just let him sleep and liveunder the goddamn zoo.
SPEAKER_03 (44:14):
I don't know.
Uh maybe they didn't know he wasthere.
SPEAKER_00 (44:17):
Yeah, I would imagine they didn't know.
Do you guys notice the 23toothbrushes?
Yeah.
That was a cool little detail.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (44:25):
The maintenance room is down there.
SPEAKER_00 (44:27):
Right.
So they knew that.
Well, I wonder if this was likeI wonder if there was like old
abandoned part of it thatthey're like, ah, we never go
down there.
That seems silly.
Like that would not actuallyexist.
SPEAKER_03 (44:38):
I mean, it did, but it didn't by the by the uh
guard's reaction.
Like for a minute, you you'rebringing up something.
I wish I I remembered thisearlier.
You're bringing up somethingthat hit me hard.
I thought the security guard wasin on it.
I was like, was this guy likethe mentor for Kevin?
Yeah, you know, but he was like,What are you doing down here?
And he like walks her out.
(44:58):
I'm like, What?
Who is this guy?
Uh was he the one that that shewas talking to on the
walkie-talkie?
Because like when he tells Oh,maybe when he tells the other
guard and the other guard likefreaked out, I was like, Were
these the fucking idiots thatshe was talking to?
Yeah.
He's like, I don't know where weare.
SPEAKER_00 (45:15):
I think the beach is.
She was talking to the the blackguy in the in the right, she was
so talking to him because whenhe realized he was like, Oh
fuck.
SPEAKER_03 (45:23):
Like but they didn't expand on that.
Like, I I really wanted them toexpound on it and tell me what
but you're so well, I think theygave us enough.
SPEAKER_00 (45:30):
You're so right.
That is a hundred percent whoshe was talking to.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (45:34):
Yeah.
Um, I would give this a probablyeight out of ten, just for I
would give it an eight, yeah.
A great movie.
Um, what else was I gonna say?
Oh, the reason the beast is thebeast is because he's in a zoo,
and that's what it's based offthe animals he's seen there.
SPEAKER_03 (45:53):
Once again, Sam's clutch I got from it.
I think I think Casey had alove-hate understanding of him,
probably noticed traumaresponses in him, which is a big
reason why he wouldn't do whyshe wouldn't do serious damage
to him.
And then she tells us that yousee more examples of this in Mr.
Glass.
SPEAKER_00 (46:11):
Yeah, but I'm not even talking about Casey.
Like one of the other girls hadhad an opportunity.
SPEAKER_03 (46:16):
That was that was the the overall.
We wished that one of them wouldhave taken the uh taken the
attack to him.
Like they were saying that theywould, but well, even when they
did, they like hit him and ran.
Right.
He could have sprayed him in hiseyes.
SPEAKER_00 (46:31):
Yeah, like he was already he was down.
unknown (46:33):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (46:34):
Keep going.
SPEAKER_03 (46:35):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (46:35):
So's not gonna survive bleach to the eyes.
Well, he'll survive.
Anyways, he'll he might goblind.
I think he'll split off againand then not be blind, though.
SPEAKER_00 (46:45):
I think this was a really good movie.
Um, again, I think uh JamesMcAvoy deserved awards for this
movie.
I think the acting wasphenomenal.
Um also Anya Taylor Joy, greatactress, love her.
Uh before the Queen's Gambit.
Yep.
She was she used to be achameleon.
SPEAKER_03 (47:02):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (47:03):
Uh, but yeah, I think this was a great movie.
Uh let's see.
I wasn't keeping track of pointsor anything.
Um, but it's okay.
I don't think we even likehalfway do that anymore.
Nah, it's a vibe.
It's a vibe.
SPEAKER_01 (47:21):
I kind of do.
SPEAKER_00 (47:22):
It's just a vibe.
Alex, you want to give uh oursocials?
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SPEAKER_00 (48:15):
All right, thank you for that.
For the winner.
Uh that's my drum.
Oh.
That's my drum roll.
Alex! I'm gonna give you the wintoday.
Mostly because you're all deckedout on will you survive merch,
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(48:37):
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Hide yourself merch up.
Yeah, well, Alex is literally awalking sponsorship.
I am.
Uh so I'm gonna go ahead andgive you the win so that you can
lead us into the next episode.
Um, but thank you boys forjoining me on this uh movie.
I hope you guys liked the movie.
(48:57):
Loved it.
It's a it's a good one.
I really like it.
Um, and until next time, stayalive.
Hello, survivors, and welcome to another episode
of Will You Survive the Podcast?
Today, I uh just for today, I'mEric, and I'm joined by my
co-hosts, Alex.
That's me, and TJ.
That's me.
And I'm in Hedwig.
(00:46):
I have Bluthock.
SPEAKER_03 (00:48):
That's right.
Yes, you do.
SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
So that that that's you know, like if you know, you
know.
That's from a movie that wewatched called Split.
Split.
Which is an M nightShamalamanaman movie, which uh I
uh was highly talking up, and Ithink I stand by it.
I I saw this movie a very longtime ago, but I think I stand by
(01:11):
it.
Uh specifically that I wassaying, I think the main actor,
James McAvoy, yes, McAvoy.
James McAvoy is phenomenal.
SPEAKER_01 (01:20):
Yeah, he was pretty legit.
He was great.
And and really, I just wanted tobring up the fact that if I talk
a little higher like this, itreally just sounds like uh Mike
Tyson.
I know the demons, man.
SPEAKER_00 (01:34):
I was literally gonna say that you're uh you're
like slowly morphing into Tyson.
So I took no notes on thismovie, and I I watched this
movie for the first time inyears again.
I've not the first time, butthis is like my fourth time.
Wow.
This is like my third time everwatching it.
So I kind of was likeremembering a lot of it as we as
(01:55):
I was watching.
Um, but yeah, I I honestly Istand by it.
I think this movie isincredible.
Essentially, uh, do you want toread us the overview of the
movie?
Sure.
SPEAKER_03 (02:04):
Though Kevin has evidenced 23 personalities to
his trusted psychiatrist, Dr.
Fletcher.
There remains one stillsubmerged who is set to
materialize and dominate all ofthe others.
Compelled to abduct threeteenage girls, led by the
willful observant Casey, Kevinreaches a war for survival among
all of those contained withinhim, as well as everyone around
(02:27):
him, as the walls between hiscompartments shatter.
SPEAKER_01 (02:30):
Wrong, he was going for two teenage girls.
She just so happened to bethere.
Did you he was following the twofor multiple weeks?
SPEAKER_00 (02:40):
Yeah, good point.
Do you happen to know do youhappen to know the disease name
again?
Uh DID.
Oh, it was Yeah, but what doesDID stand for?
SPEAKER_01 (02:50):
Associative Identity Disorder.
SPEAKER_00 (02:52):
So that's what he has, except it's kind of a more
fantastical version of it.
Basically, this movie, well, Imean, the main premise of it is
that this guy has multiplepersonalities, but each
personality is like an entirelydifferent version.
(03:12):
But this is like exaggerated.
Oh yeah, like this is like asupernatural version of it.
SPEAKER_01 (03:17):
That's like true.
Like they'll they're they'recalled altars, like when you
have multiple people, you know?
And that's kind of true.
I I've I've heard from like fromthe internet that like some of
it's pretty factual, but like alot of it's fantastical.
SPEAKER_00 (03:33):
Yeah, the stuff where it's like um, I'm pretty
sure the stuff where it's like,oh, this personality needs
insulin and the and the rest ofthem don't.
I I don't think that's that it'sthat's that's not it's somewhat
accurate.
SPEAKER_01 (03:45):
I because I did watch some videos on it too.
It's somewhat-ish like accurate.
Like I don't think they wouldneed that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:51):
I want to preface that we are not doctors.
I know nothing really aboutthis.
Uh this kind of total guessing,but from what I know, which is
kind of a general overview.
One of them needed I don't thinkit's quite like that.
Well, I could I could see thatkind of thing.
That's a thing, I think.
But things where it's like thispersonality has diabetes, but
the rest of them don't.
Yeah.
And this one has high bloodpressure, but the rest of them
(04:12):
don't.
Or like, oh, this one's blind,this one's not.
Yeah, well, even that stuff Icould kind of see because your
brain could be pretty powerful.
But the things where it's likeyou're you're diabetic, that's
not really like a brain thing,as much as that's just your body
is no longer producing insulin.
But I could see something beinglike, This personality is blind,
and your brain is powerfulenough to kind of shut that off
(04:35):
if it's really messed up.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_03 (04:37):
At this point, I'm kind of falling.
This is relevant.
So, Sam, one of our survivorsand longtime subscriber,
comments very relevant, that canbe accurate, where one could
hypochondriacish medical issuesthat others don't.
SPEAKER_00 (04:51):
See, I could see that.
SPEAKER_03 (04:52):
I could see one being like a hypochondriac, um,
but I also put on that is thebrain controls everything in the
body.
Could the brain now this is aquestion, not a not a definitive
statement.
Could the brain control thingslike the pancreas and say stop
producing insulin?
SPEAKER_01 (05:10):
It can do some crazy shit.
Like there's people who likewake up speaking Chinese.
SPEAKER_03 (05:16):
I've heard that.
That's like a brain trauma, andthey wake up and they're
speaking another language andthey don't know that they're
speaking another language.
SPEAKER_00 (05:24):
Yeah, I mean it kind of like there's another movie
that kind of touches on thispremise.
I think it's Lucy with ScarlettJohansson.
Great movie.
SPEAKER_03 (05:30):
She she uh uses some chemical supplement, right?
SPEAKER_01 (05:36):
There's also like the Morgan Freeman's in it, and
he's all like, Yeah, you can usea hundred percent of your brain.
SPEAKER_00 (05:41):
There's also uh limitless.
What a limitless pill would becrazy.
SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
Yeah.
There's also unbreakable.
Never seen that.
Okay.
No, you should because it'sconnected to this.
Did you know that?
Uh to split?
Did you know split's a sequel?
SPEAKER_00 (05:55):
Yeah, it well, isn't there a movie called Mr.
Glass?
SPEAKER_01 (05:58):
Yeah.
So we we can get down to thatlater.
Um, but what I was gonna say isabout the DID thing.
I was watching some videos withsome people who have it, and
this one girl was like, See, thecraziest thing is that you just
kind of wake up in a place youweren't, you just kind of come
to the front randomly, and she'slike, That's scary.
Cause like, what if one of myalters has severe depression and
(06:20):
decides to uh off themselves?
SPEAKER_03 (06:22):
Yep.
Now this is completelycompletely irrelevant to this,
but talking about the live, Ihave no stickers on my live.
I have no green screen, butTikTok just told me that my
access to green screen andstickers is suspended for a day
because I shouldn't be using itwhile I'm promoting content.
(06:43):
They keep fucking restricting mefor absolutely no fucking
reason.
I did a video where I waswalking, I was walking and
talking and did a um asubscription sticker on my on my
post, and they suspended the thesubscription sticker saying that
it wasn't original content.
I'm like, this is fuckingbullshit.
What are you talking about?
(07:04):
This is original.
I was talking about code Blackthe Truth, and they freaking
suspended uh like took it off.
I appealed, and they're like,nope.
SPEAKER_01 (07:12):
Listen, I love the Chinese government.
I fucking damn.
I love Xi Jinping or whateverthe fuck the president's name
is.
I love it.
Oh he does like Winnie the Pooh.
He's got the strategy.
Our supreme leader.
SPEAKER_03 (07:26):
Oh, they've been they've been bought out.
Whoa, man.
It's official.
It's too official.
SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
Well then fuck that guy.
SPEAKER_03 (07:35):
It's American, uh, American business is the
majority stakeholder.
Well screw Xi Jinping.
SPEAKER_01 (07:40):
Yeah, fuck that Winnie the Pooh looking ass.
SPEAKER_00 (07:42):
Oh they just hate us, they just hate us because
they ain't us.
SPEAKER_03 (07:47):
This is American, this is American companies who
are restricting us for nofucking reason.
SPEAKER_00 (07:52):
Well, as they should.
No, I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_03 (07:55):
I'm wearing the damn hat.
I'm not I'm moving around andI'm talking, I'm swiveling in
the chair so that they don'tthink that freaking stationary.
Yeah, but that's that's you.
I'm doing a co-host.
SPEAKER_01 (08:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (08:07):
Why would they restrict me for someone else
doing it?
It's this is just absurd.
Well, because it's on yourstream.
You would think that they wouldlike to do it.
SPEAKER_01 (08:16):
We should get a sponsor from the people who make
our microphones.
Let's try that.
Sony?
Toner.
Sony?
Is it Sony?
No.
Uh Fifine.
FeeFine.
Yeah, no, toner is my last one.
SPEAKER_03 (08:28):
Guilty by association.
I've heard that before.
He's with one of them.
SPEAKER_01 (08:32):
You know what it is?
SPEAKER_03 (08:33):
You know what it is?
TikTok doesn't like them blackfolk.
That's what it is.
SPEAKER_00 (08:36):
TikTok is is uh that's that's on WYS, maybe
well, now that it's an Americancompany, it makes sense.
SPEAKER_01 (08:45):
Makes a lot of sense, sadly.
SPEAKER_03 (08:47):
It's it's them black and brown folk.
See?
So I'm not I guess I'm notshowing enough skin to be brown.
Your skin color is dependent onhow much skin you're showing.
Well, because they can't see.
I'll just bleach my skin.
I that's not a why, TJ, Samsays.
SPEAKER_00 (09:03):
It is a why.
His arm is the long part.
Oh, his arm is the leg?
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes no sense forour audio listeners when we just
want to do a ring.
Yeah, no, but like hear me out.
I know.
Like, I know.
SPEAKER_01 (09:14):
I just wanted to lie.
That's the same thing.
Yeah, no, no, no, we got it, TJ.
TJ's in the middle.
TJ, we got it.
Do we got it?
Y'all are over here talkingabout some other shit.
I'm over here turning throughthe split.
I have no control gear.
Dude, I fucking love this movie.
I wanted to talk fucking gamewith this movie.
Did you notice before thefucking Wait, TJ?
SPEAKER_03 (09:39):
TJ.
SPEAKER_00 (09:40):
I swear to God.
SPEAKER_03 (09:41):
Clap because we're coming back in after that round.
SPEAKER_00 (09:43):
No, we're gonna leave it in.
We were I'm not gonna stay upthat late.
That's part of it.
SPEAKER_01 (09:49):
Did you notice before the therapist noticed
that he was not Barry?
Yeah.
He was Dennis.
SPEAKER_03 (09:55):
I did not.
No.
SPEAKER_01 (09:57):
So I did not pay attention because Dennis has
like he has like a fixation.
SPEAKER_03 (10:02):
Oh dude! That's what it was.
I got a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01 (10:06):
He was walking around and he was fixing shit.
And she was like, Are youlooking for something?
And he's like, No, I'm justlooking around or whatever.
But he's literally likeadjusting shit on tables and
pushing books back in.
SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
The attention to detail.
That was the OCD, right?
The attention to detail on thepersonalities is was was very,
very well done.
SPEAKER_03 (10:27):
Oh yeah, it was the way his face shifts to like but
you just pointed out what Icompletely missed is that vein.
I saw it at the very end.
Yeah.
Dennis always had the vein out.
I did not see that in the likeearlier when he was in her
office.
And it was always there.
(10:47):
It was it was Barry who was theone who was emailing her when
she kept thinking it was Dennis.
SPEAKER_00 (10:53):
Barry was like the rational same one.
Which one was the one who wasdoing right away?
We didn't even see it.
In the very first emergencysession, when she the very first
therapy session where or that wesaw, uh where she was like, I
don't think I'm talking toBarry.
And and he was like, Yeah, youare, and she was like, No, I
(11:15):
don't think so.
And then she backed off and shewas like, Oh, forgive me, I'm
just supposed to challenge you.
Right.
But she clocked it right away.
She's like, This isn't thisisn't him.
Yeah.
And she got him to admit it onthe on the second one.
SPEAKER_01 (11:26):
Yeah, and then she noticed when like she went to
the dude with the securitycameras, and she noticed he
walked through the trash insteadof walking around it.
SPEAKER_00 (11:35):
I loved that detail.
Right.
She was like a normal personwould walk around it.
He's trying to he put on a show.
SPEAKER_03 (11:41):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (11:41):
Like, oh, look, I don't mind, I'm not OCD.
I don't mind stepping throughthe trash.
SPEAKER_03 (11:46):
Which that's another thing that is interesting about
the DID that they point out inthis, that one character could
be so heavily affected by OCD,but not the others, especially
not Hedwig.
SPEAKER_00 (12:00):
Yeah, that see, that's the kind of stuff where I
do think that stuff is accurate.
SPEAKER_03 (12:04):
It makes sense.
It's all in the brain.
SPEAKER_00 (12:06):
That that stuff does seem accurate.
It's just the the fantasticalstuff in this movie, like the
him literally becoming a monsterwho can bend the bars of a of a
zoo cage, um, like not dyingfrom getting shot twice in the
chest.
SPEAKER_01 (12:24):
In the universe, it makes like sense though, because
like in real life, there arestories of like moms picking
cars off kids, type shit wherethe brain is.
Yeah, but there's nothing tolike do stuff, you know?
SPEAKER_00 (12:38):
Yes, but there's not stories of somebody being so
crazed that their skin deflectsthe shp.
What?
PCP, not deflects, but no, youdon't get shot twice by a
shotgun and not have any nothave any damage.
You just have because they justlike hit the surface of your
skin and they didn't go through.
No, nothing gives you iron skinlike that.
(13:00):
See what I what I was that'sfantastical.
That's what I was wondering wassupernatural the movie.
SPEAKER_03 (13:05):
Did it actually like so they actually showed that it
didn't penetrate his skin?
SPEAKER_00 (13:09):
Yeah, at the very end, uh when he's talking in the
mirror and all the personalitiesare swapping rapidly.
SPEAKER_03 (13:14):
Because I thought he touched and he was like, ow!
SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
No, no, they they were saying, like, look, didn't
even go through.
SPEAKER_03 (13:21):
Interesting.
What if it was just bird shot?
That's see, that was what Ithought.
That was exactly what I thought.
SPEAKER_01 (13:28):
What if they bought like a really light like case of
shells, you know?
And just like just point blankis still gonna be.
SPEAKER_03 (13:38):
For sure.
Like and what if it was justsaltpeter?
It could have been.
That could be the only thing.
SPEAKER_00 (13:45):
I mean, it's it would, but but but the only
reason I would say no to that isbecause he clearly had like the
the little beads uh in his skin.
Like you can see where he gotshot.
SPEAKER_03 (13:55):
Definitely agree that uh that chemalilian.
God, now that I said his name?
What is his real name?
M.
Night Shallamelin.
Stop! M.
Night Shalian.
The uh I didn't get it until theend in the credits that it was a
supernatural thing when theybrought up in the diner there
(14:17):
was Bruce Willis, you know.
Oh, glass, Mr.
Glass.
SPEAKER_01 (14:20):
But have you seen Unbreakable Alex?
SPEAKER_03 (14:23):
I did.
Okay.
SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
Have you seen the sequel to this, the Mr.
Glass?
I have not.
I haven't either.
Okay.
SPEAKER_03 (14:29):
Well, I think I I thought I thought uh glass came
out before this.
SPEAKER_01 (14:33):
Glass came out after this.
SPEAKER_03 (14:34):
Did it really?
It's okay.
SPEAKER_01 (14:36):
It's a big like final endgame moment, I guess.
Um anyways, I heard it was ass.
SPEAKER_00 (14:41):
But yeah, I I don't remember hearing anything good
about that one.
SPEAKER_01 (14:45):
Spoiler alert to never mind, it's old.
Unbreakable.
Okay, right?
Okay.
Starts off.
All right.
Main guy, Bruce Willis, he wasin a train accident.
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (14:54):
Only one untouched.
SPEAKER_01 (14:55):
The main character in split Kevin.
Yep.
What happened to his father?
He left on the train.
I I didn't even catch thatdetail to be honest.
That's so Mr.
Glass killed his dad.
So that's like the connectionthere.
Yeah.
So then I guess that's why theylike they beef in the the next
one.
Which the next one isn't reallylike a survival movie.
(15:17):
It's more like a I don't know.
I recommend Unbreakable.
I recommend this.
I don't recommend the next one.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
So here's a a detail.
This is gonna get kind of darkbecause this movie was a little
dark at times.
Uh and I don't even know if Iwant to bring this up.
It's uncomfy, but it is, Ithink, important, especially for
for girls.
Um when he okay.
Um, when he first took one ofthe girls out of the room and
she ran up to the main uh whatwas the main what was Anya
(15:42):
Taylor Joy's character?
SPEAKER_01 (15:44):
I don't know.
That was just Anya Taylor Joy'scharacter.
I cannot remember.
SPEAKER_00 (15:48):
She was she was Casey Cook.
One of the girls ran up to Caseyas as the uh guy was about to
grab her and she said, pee onyourself.
SPEAKER_04 (15:58):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (15:59):
And nice little detail there.
Uh because I I I I do know aboutthat.
I have heard that that's uh away to deter.
Um and it did, it worked.
But that's because his OCD seemslike ew.
So I just thought that was kindof uh I mean it it is
unfortunate that that is that'sthat's a survival tip or a
survival podcast.
There's a survival tip.
SPEAKER_03 (16:21):
Here's a a point to the movie here.
Mr.
Glass is the opposite, his bonesshatter versus Bruce, never
sick, never injured.
SPEAKER_01 (16:29):
And that that was like the whole thing with
Unbreakable was like Mr.
Glass was like looking for hisopposite.
SPEAKER_03 (16:37):
So what confused me was I had thought that Kevin's
dad died of a heart attack whenhis uncle came and was like, um,
that was unintelligent.
SPEAKER_00 (16:49):
Oh, you're right, you're right.
Oh, that was you're right.
SPEAKER_03 (16:51):
That was.
I'm sorry.
It it completely confused mewhen they did that that
flashback.
Now it was the end of the moviethat I finally understood when
uh when uh the beast saw her andsaw the marks on her.
Now I didn't understand what themarks meant until he had said
that uh she was pure of heart.
And I was like, oh no wonderwhat he's doing.
SPEAKER_01 (17:13):
That's that's because his what his mom did to
him.
So like there was that littlecutaway when she said his full
name, um, Kevin, whatever thefuck.
SPEAKER_03 (17:22):
Kevin Wendell Crum.
SPEAKER_01 (17:24):
That it like it cut to his mom screaming at him that
he like made a mess.
And so it's because of that.
SPEAKER_03 (17:32):
Which seemed valid.
That was so dark because the theuh let that go right by.
What's that?
SPEAKER_00 (17:41):
I was gonna let it slip.
That's fine.
Now I just seem crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (17:45):
Now I want to know.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
I said, which seems valid.
Oh, she's about to beat him witha wire hanger.
SPEAKER_01 (17:52):
Don't make a mess.
I'd like yeah, because of hisdad dying, he got left with his
abusive mother.
SPEAKER_03 (18:01):
But that that is what you're saying.
SPEAKER_01 (18:02):
She wouldn't have been abusive if he didn't make a
mess.
SPEAKER_00 (18:04):
That's what he made me a little confused.
Duh.
SPEAKER_03 (18:07):
And it was so dark.
It was so dark at the end whenthey said uh Kevin is sleeping,
he's far away.
SPEAKER_01 (18:14):
And that's why Dennis is hypochondriac cleaner.
SPEAKER_00 (18:17):
Oh, because his mom kissed that.
That's a good connection.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Yeah.
I like that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (18:24):
Even nervous.
Just standing there in uh juststanding there in the doctor's
office, he couldn't leaveanything uh out of line, out of
order.
SPEAKER_00 (18:34):
Can we talk about the way that the doctor was
KO'd?
Oh, that was pretty insane.
That's out.
That seems like a pretty awfulway.
I also die instantly.
SPEAKER_01 (18:46):
That's not very fantastical.
I I feel like I could squeeze awhole lady.
SPEAKER_00 (18:49):
Yeah, I I was gonna say that that is like the least
uh like supernatural.
I think that's a like arealistic way.
I could fucking do that.
Are you okay?
SPEAKER_03 (19:00):
At a zoo.
At a zoo.
SPEAKER_01 (19:02):
These are designs for like chaperillas and shit.
SPEAKER_03 (19:04):
I'm just gonna like about that is it brings forward
the thought that we only controla small percent of our brain 10%
of the time, right?
There's no hundred percentcontrol.
The the premise behind this ishow much how much more could our
bodies do if our brains had fullcapacity.
SPEAKER_00 (19:27):
I believe I don't think that was the premise.
I think that's the premise ofLucy.
I think this movie was just morelike, well, maybe, maybe it is a
little bit of that.
SPEAKER_01 (19:36):
They didn't really say that peak human condition,
yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:40):
But it was more just like if we believe it hard
enough, it becomes real.
SPEAKER_01 (19:45):
If we use 100% of our brains, let's call it
seizure.
SPEAKER_03 (19:49):
Well, because we're incapable, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
Let's just call seizure.
You go ahead and you go aheadand try.
We're just one seizure away fromour perfect selves.
Yeah, guys, go give yourself ano everybody don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (20:03):
Everybody try it, dude.
Go on YouTube, look at the VOD.
We're gonna play some flashinglights.
SPEAKER_00 (20:11):
Let us know what happens when you wake up if you
wake up, they'll be okay.
They'll they'll wake up and havesuperpowers.
SPEAKER_01 (20:17):
I'm this is so if they if they don't wake up,
well, they won't be able tounfollow.
SPEAKER_03 (20:23):
Let me uh that's true.
We'll have permanent followers.
Yeah, let me take this moment toremind our podcast listeners.
Go over to our TikTok shop,check out our merch.
We have merch.
If you were in the TikTok live,you would see me wearing it
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SPEAKER_01 (20:42):
Oh our real end-time ads back to the show.
Fucking come in and they're ourfucking fit is biteproof because
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SPEAKER_00 (20:51):
Wait, they come in and they eat us, but we're like
oh my god, they look so good andthey're will you survive
hoodies.
That's how that's how Eric'ssurviving.
I am the zombie.
Guys, I'm gonna be honest.
We've been having like threedifferent conversations a lot of
this tonight.
Listen, listen.
We skipped a week.
It's rough right now.
They won't notice, but is thereany point in this movie that you
(21:14):
want to talk about, Alex?
SPEAKER_03 (21:15):
Well, I think we we've covered a couple of the
the spots that mo intrigued memost was number one, the medical
complications between thedifferent patients.
Like when when I think that wasHedwig, right, who had diabetes,
and he was explaining how couldhow could it just be multiple
personality disorder if I'm theonly one who needs this.
SPEAKER_00 (21:35):
I don't think that was Hedwig.
I think that was anotherpersonality that we never really
met.
I think it was a girl too long.
Was it Jade?
Something like that.
It was one of those.
SPEAKER_01 (21:43):
It's very sassy.
SPEAKER_03 (21:44):
You know what?
Okay, Sam deserves this shoutout.
Three different conversations isperfect since three different
movies.
I would say three differentconversations is perfect because
of all the personalities we arein this movie.
Split.
SPEAKER_00 (21:57):
Um make a we we are Kevin.
Make an awful image of the threeof our faces combined.
I could do that.
Please don't.
I'll do that.
No, please don't.
Seriously, please don't.
It'll make me disturbed.
SPEAKER_03 (22:07):
Use Necric.
No, we have Hydric.
SPEAKER_01 (22:12):
It's all of us.
Hydric does exist, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (22:17):
It does exist, yeah, but it's it'll be all my
co-workers were obsessed with uhNecrick and Hydric and Jade is
the one who is diabetic.
SPEAKER_03 (22:24):
Okay, so we did meet Jade.
So I I that was the part that Ihad a hard time following.
I didn't know who was talkingall the time.
And then it wasn't until TJ justpointed out the difference
between Barry and Dennis, theveins.
SPEAKER_00 (22:41):
Oh yeah, TJ did that.
SPEAKER_01 (22:42):
Oh, was that you?
Well, I brought up the veins.
SPEAKER_00 (22:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (22:48):
Yeah, but you're did I give him your thunder?
No, it's okay.
I don't I don't I don't think Ibrought that.
Don't even start doing thatbecause I brought up the his
face switching when he's likeyou can you can see which one it
is.
Like when when she finallyrealized that it was Dennis and
(23:11):
not Barry, you could physicallysee like the posture change and
like his you know?
And that's called good acting.
SPEAKER_00 (23:20):
Yeah, Jane McGow is a really good actor.
Underrated.
I think so.
Didn't he have a big filmrecently?
Did he?
I don't know.
I think so.
SPEAKER_03 (23:31):
I don't remember.
SPEAKER_00 (23:33):
I think he just had a like pretty recently just did
a a big film.
Clearly he didn't wasn't thatgreat.
I don't think I follow it.
SPEAKER_03 (23:44):
I don't remember, but I can find out right real
quick.
SPEAKER_02 (23:46):
Yeah, it was the last movie he was in.
Real quick.
Last movie he was in would be uh2025 California Schemin.
That wasn't it.
Speak no evil.
Ah, that one.
That one?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (24:05):
You know who else had a really mid movie?
Because he's fucking mid DwayneJohnson.
Box office is not looking goodfor the smashing machine.
You tried really acting and itreally didn't work.
SPEAKER_03 (24:20):
Oh, you know what?
It looked really good.
You are absolutely right.
This guy is.
SPEAKER_01 (24:24):
Nobody wants to go fucking see it though.
SPEAKER_03 (24:27):
He is a chamel chameleon.
unknown (24:31):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
James McAvoy.
He was uh Bill in It Chapter 2.
SPEAKER_00 (24:36):
Yeah, in the first time.
In the remake.
That just blew me away.
He's an X-Men First Class.
Oh wow.
He's in the Chronicles ofNarnia.
SPEAKER_01 (24:45):
I forgot he's fucking mystery tonist.
SPEAKER_03 (24:49):
Oh he is! Holy crap.
SPEAKER_01 (24:53):
But why is his name James when there's only one of
them?
SPEAKER_00 (24:57):
Days of Future, yeah.
His name should be Jane.
I hate that joke.
It's so funny.
Why do they call him James whenthere's only one of them?
SPEAKER_01 (25:08):
Should just be James.
Oh yeah.
One of my favorite, I literallyjust watched this the other day.
Bro, Wanted, dude?
I fucking love Wanted.
SPEAKER_00 (25:16):
Yo, my favorite Nomeo and Juliet.
He was in that one.
He was Nomeo.
Is that really a favorite ofyours?
No.
Oh.
I do like that movie, but Iwouldn't say favorite of it.
SPEAKER_03 (25:26):
Because I think that was you who got he was in Itchy.
SPEAKER_01 (25:31):
He's in Deadpool 2.
Well, yeah, for the split secondbecause he plays the professor.
SPEAKER_03 (25:38):
So I got I got completely knocked off knocked
off guard in this movie becauseas I was saying, I didn't even
know who was talking most of thetime.
So I was playing catch up theentire movie, trying to figure
out who was talking, who who amI listening to.
SPEAKER_00 (25:55):
So you were like pretty much in the same
perspective as um Casey.
SPEAKER_03 (26:00):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (26:01):
Where you didn't know what the fuck was going on.
SPEAKER_03 (26:03):
I was trying to to find out who was talking, and I
was kind of guessing here andthere.
Uh the only one that I thoughtnow only because of the movie
magic they were playing thatominous music when he was
talking to the doctor, and shewas like, This isn't Dennis, is
it?
And he's like, No, it is.
This is Dennis.
(26:24):
And he's trying to convince her.
I was like, okay, well, they'reletting me know that there's
something wrong here.
SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
Like this this isn't who You know, I maybe I wouldn't
actually catch it, but I thinkin this specific scene, even if
there wasn't music, I think Iwould have caught it.
Because a lot of his behaviors,it it's kind of tricky because
it's like one of thosesituations where someone's like,
Oh my god, did you fart?
(26:51):
And no matter what you say now,it's gonna seem like you farted.
If you're like, no, I didn'tfart, everyone's gonna be like,
dude, you farted.
SPEAKER_03 (27:01):
So it's it was kind of like TJ, did you fart?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (27:07):
So?
Well, so it's it's kind of likethat situation where um she's
like, This isn't this isn'tBarry, is it?
And it's so it's like no matterwhat you say at that point, kind
of seems like maybe you'retrapped in a corner where it's
like, well, now no matter what Isay, you're you're not gonna
believe me.
Right.
But his whole like um, look,look, I'll I'll do this.
(27:27):
I'll I'll prove I'll prove thatI'm Barry.
Look, look, see, see Barry woulddo that.
Like it was very much likeyou're trying too hard.
SPEAKER_03 (27:34):
But it was it was at that point that I finally caught
on.
She had already told us, like, Ibelieved the doctor knew who she
was talking to.
SPEAKER_00 (27:43):
Oh, yeah, because at that point we had only seen like
two of his personalities, so wehad no idea.
SPEAKER_03 (27:48):
When you're when you're watching it and you see
this guy doing this performance,I had no clue.
Like, there was no context cluefor why she was telling him,
This isn't Dennis, is it?
Yeah.
And he's like, Why would you saythat?
SPEAKER_00 (28:02):
You know what's crazy?
He is an actor portraying acharacter pretending to be
another character, right?
Right.
Fucking awesome.
That's a lot of thought all theway through.
That's why I'm I that's why Iseriously think like he was a
big thing.
SPEAKER_01 (28:21):
This was almost a comeback for Mr.
M Knight.
SPEAKER_00 (28:25):
Did he win, did uh James McAvoy win any awards for
this movie?
Because I feel like he shouldhave won something for this
movie.
Um like besides the the endingbeing just a little bit like
fantastical, supernatural, kindof silly, but the the rest of
the movie, his entire his actingit is just fucking phenomenal.
(28:50):
That's crazy.
Yeah, I feel like he should havewon an Oscar or something for
that.
unknown (28:55):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (28:55):
That was a crazy good performance.
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03 (28:58):
So um he won a he was only nominated for the Teen
Choice Awards.
SPEAKER_00 (29:06):
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03 (29:07):
Choice movie villain.
SPEAKER_00 (29:10):
Because the this acting is insane.
The the amount of thought, likeyou said, the the thought in
each character, in each uhpersonality, because he still
has to be Kevin, but he's alsoall these personalities within
Kevin.
Yeah.
And he really portrays thatstruggle and that fight between
(29:32):
all of them and then howdifferent they all are.
With the little things like justHedwood's, etc.
Yeah.
It is so indicative of Hedwig.
You know who you're talking to.
SPEAKER_03 (29:44):
See, the the I would say this is one of those movies
that left me with an eerie,unsettling feeling when the
police officer came to Casey atthe end and said, Your uncle's
here, and she just sat in theback of the car.
It was like you felt like shewas going from one cage to
another.
SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
Yeah.
She was like I guess.
Yeah, that's why she at thebeginning like was trying her
hardest not to get picked up.
She's just like, I'll take thebus.
SPEAKER_00 (30:16):
The uh the whatchamacallit, um oh the the
stare.
The stare that she was givingthat officer was very much like
like I just survived this.
And now you're sending methrough this and now I I'm going
basically into the samesituation.
Um it kind of I don't know Iwould like to think that she
(30:41):
fought at that point and saidsomething, but I mean can I also
think that maybe M.
SPEAKER_01 (30:47):
Making uncles the fucking weird fuckers, please?
SPEAKER_00 (30:53):
It's easy, just like it's so easy, just like uh
Russians are the bad guys.
It's such a trope.
I would like to think that shesaid something and kind of broke
that cycle, but I also kind ofthink that M.
Knight Shyamalan was like he I Ithink he wanted to portray that
whole leaving one prison intothe other kind of thing.
(31:13):
I think she should be able to doit.
Where it was like where she hashope and then it it's just kind
of crushed.
SPEAKER_03 (31:18):
I think Sam already said she does.
Yeah.
But you're you already saidwe're not covering the next one.
SPEAKER_01 (31:25):
That's up to you guys.
I'm not gonna do it, but I meanit's not really like a survival
movie.
You know, like unbreakable isn'teither.
Like I really want to watchUnbreakable, but it's more of
like a superhero movie.
SPEAKER_03 (31:42):
Which that also leads me to the uh number one, I
I would question theeffectiveness of such an agent
that he was using.
Oh yeah.
That what is that?
He could just simply put on adust mask and didn't even seal
(32:02):
it to his nose.
Right.
And then when he hit the doctorwith it, he just covered his
face with a cloth.
Like that's not what is that?
That's not like um it's notchloroform.
SPEAKER_01 (32:15):
Maybe it's something for animals because he worked at
a zoo.
SPEAKER_03 (32:19):
Could be.
Oh, maybe.
Could be, but I'm I'm stillcurious as well.
SPEAKER_01 (32:25):
Like an aerosol can too, so it must be like a mass
produced.
SPEAKER_00 (32:29):
Yeah.
Cause I'm thinking like there'shalt spray, which I have, but it
that's basically like temporarypepper spray.
That's it.
It's not it doesn't knock peopleout.
SPEAKER_03 (32:40):
Back makes you back up, you know.
And so that was one of the beefsI had with uh that beginning
scene.
And two was why it took her solong to get out of the car.
SPEAKER_00 (32:52):
It seemed like Oh my for real.
She still could have got out,even once he noticed, she had
like a full 30 seconds.
SPEAKER_03 (32:59):
And it was like my my beef with it is you guys all
I've already said this on thepodcast many times.
In a kidnapping situation, neverlet it get past step one.
Yeah, it's never gonna getbetter than right at that
moment.
I mean, those poor girls, theydidn't survive the uh the
kidnapping.
SPEAKER_01 (33:19):
Don't let yourself get taken to the second
location.
SPEAKER_03 (33:21):
Don't let yourself get taken.
It's it's not gonna get thereare worse things than death.
SPEAKER_01 (33:27):
Fight, don't be nice, be rude.
SPEAKER_03 (33:30):
They had the right idea after.
SPEAKER_01 (33:32):
Fight dirty.
SPEAKER_03 (33:34):
And and I would suspect, I mean, this is a good
wake-up call to somebody pointsa spray bottle at you, uh,
you're probably gonna need tohold your breath right away.
Yeah.
What would the effect?
Pocket fent.
SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
What?
Yeah, dust right in their eyes.
You you put it in a pipe, youyou light it, you stick in their
mouth.
What are you gonna do now?
Rendered useless.
Rendered useless, Batman.
No, and now you lean.
(34:11):
Next movie in the sequel, I'llget lean.
SPEAKER_02 (34:20):
Oh my god.
SPEAKER_00 (34:25):
Another Hollywood celebrity lost a drug addiction.
SPEAKER_01 (34:30):
Oh my god.
James McAlvoy leaning.
And he has blue skin.
SPEAKER_00 (34:39):
Another celebrity roaming the streets of Los
Santos.
SPEAKER_01 (34:43):
Los Santos is crazy.
SPEAKER_00 (34:46):
Um yeah.
I mean, I I I agree.
Never let it get past uh theinitial location, never go to a
second location.
Um fight dirty.
I mean, go for the eyes, go forthe floor.
Go for go for the nuts, go foreverything weak, go for bite.
(35:06):
Chicks can kidnap too.
Punch that bitch in the boob.
Hard.
Hard as fuck.
Punch a guy in the in the ballsreally hard.
SPEAKER_01 (35:15):
Yeah, all it takes is a flick and I want to throw
up.
So imagine just full on dicktwist.
SPEAKER_00 (35:20):
Also, full punch throat or throat punch.
Oh yeah.
Throat punch.
SPEAKER_01 (35:24):
Right in the throat.
SPEAKER_00 (35:25):
Get someone in the jugular real good, that's pretty
uh incapacitating.
SPEAKER_03 (35:31):
There's there's methods that people should
always consider is if you're upagainst an opponent that's much
bigger than you, don't try totake on the opponent.
Take on an element of him that'ssmaller than you.
His eyes, his nose, his pinky,his thumb, whatever you can do.
SPEAKER_00 (35:48):
Be relentless.
SPEAKER_03 (35:49):
Go yeah, go after it with all of your might.
And you know what's the what'sthe um what's the effectiveness
of the assailant if you havebroken all of their fingers?
Uh what what are they able to doat that point?
But don't think that it's gonnaget better.
I'm not suggesting that ifsomebody's trying to kidnap you
(36:10):
on the sidewalk, that you aregoing to necessarily walk away
from that.
But my advice to my wife, I tellher, in regards to my kids, I
can deal with the knowledge ofsomebody unaliving her on the
sidewalk, taking her and holdingher without knowing where she
is, if she's still alive, ifthey're doing unspeakable things
(36:32):
to her and my kids.
That I can't handle.
So don't don't let it get paststep one.
You do whatever it takes topreserve your freedom.
SPEAKER_01 (36:41):
You know, God forbid.
Leave evidence that leaveevidence on them, scratch so you
get them under your nails.
That's right.
Fuck it, do whatever you gottado.
Also piss and shit yourself.
That'll help.
SPEAKER_03 (36:55):
That one too.
Get them busted, you know.
Protect the next, they're gonnabe a little bit more.
No full fucking rabbit mode, youwon't be their last.
SPEAKER_00 (37:01):
Yeah, I mean, like yeah, 100%.
Full rabid mode.
Just go, don't hold anythingback.
SPEAKER_01 (37:08):
Like you think a dude would want to take you if
you shit yourself and then reachin your pants and smear it on
his forehead?
I don't think he would.
SPEAKER_00 (37:14):
Yeah, you got I I have heard of outcrazing crazy.
Yeah.
That tends to repel them.
SPEAKER_03 (37:19):
Yeah, I should have uh I should have Corinne on the
podcast.
SPEAKER_01 (37:23):
Did you guys think that's something that they
taught her in Corinne uhdemonstrate your poop smear
method?
SPEAKER_03 (37:30):
No, it was actually a um it was a a person they had
in her understanding humansexuality class when she was
back in college, and they had auh SA survivor who went to
colleges and was talking aboutexactly what you just said, how
crazy they're crazy.
Um typically, statisticallyspeaking, SARs don't want
(37:53):
someone who's crazy, right?
There's that uh there's that Rstrength, right?
But as there the uh example thatshe gave, she's walking to her
car from this lecture, and onher way to the car, there was
somebody who was walking behindher, like following her, she
thought.
She started talking to herself,she started uh rambling, she
(38:16):
started screaming.
Start acting like Kevin.
Exactly.
She started acting like erraticand insane, and the person who
was following her happened to befrom the class that she had just
taught, and was like, I am so,you know, I the I was in the
class that you were just in, andI'm parked like past where you
are.
And she was like, Look, youknow, in the next class, look,
(38:38):
I'd rather look like a fool thanbe caught unawares and the worst
happened.
SPEAKER_00 (38:43):
She's like, Look, it works.
And the per the the perfectlynormal guy going like, Holy
shit, this chick is weird.
SPEAKER_03 (38:49):
And and that's exactly what the uh what the
attacker would do, the assaulterwould think the same thing.
This person's crazy.
I'm not gonna watch it.
That's exactly right.
Or or or a survivor, you know?
Yeah.
Uh where we use the term in adifferent in a different uh
capacity, and we want you all tosurvive, but uh better to be
(39:11):
safe than to be an SA survivor.
So act crazy.
Yeah.
Out crazy, they're crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (39:20):
Never fail.
SPEAKER_03 (39:21):
That's a good one.
SPEAKER_01 (39:22):
The peak.
Actually, don't take my word forit.
It might they might be intothat.
I'm gonna be 100%.
They come back.
Nothing's a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
You said it would work.
SPEAKER_03 (39:34):
Nothing's a hundred percent, but it's it's
statistical probabilities are inyour favor if you do all of
that.
But this was uh this was a darkepisode from the this movie.
I had no idea this movie evenexisted, and then I was
completely ignorant that it wasa part of Unbreakable.
SPEAKER_00 (39:52):
So what's your uh your rating of this movie?
SPEAKER_03 (39:54):
Out of five or out of ten?
SPEAKER_00 (39:56):
Out of ten.
SPEAKER_03 (39:56):
Out of ten, I'm gonna give this a solid six for
the whole the whole shenanigans.
Uh the things that I dockedpoints for.
I wasn't a I wasn't a fan of thecinematography.
I wasn't a fan of the sound.
Uh but as if we go just directlyinto the movie, I'm gonna give M
(40:19):
knight Chameleon uh like aneight out of ten for that story,
because that was insane, punintended.
SPEAKER_00 (40:26):
Honestly, I I I I agree kinda.
I would say that I I actuallydid I didn't mind the
cinematography of the audio, butI would say that the the writers
uh and the the people who wrotethe character the character
development or like the thecharacters and then along with
James McAvoy, just thatcharacter, whoever was a part of
(40:49):
the creative process to come upwith all the details of of Kevin
is it deserving of a lot ofawards because that was a crazy
very crazy interesting characterto to learn about thinking of sh
like discovering shit about youknow like how every character
(41:10):
fucking the reason Dennis is afucking you know OCD.
SPEAKER_03 (41:15):
Yeah, because of his uh yeah now I will say this
something that he did very wellthat I hate him for.
I I love the movie for this, butI hate Chameleon for doing this.
He did a fantastic job ofhumanizing Kevin, making him a
real human being that perhapsyou could even say he was a
(41:35):
product of his of hisupbringing, he had to survive
what he was going through, andhe was created into this
monster, if you will, justtrying to survive.
Yeah, I mean you and I loved andhated that.
SPEAKER_00 (41:49):
I I love that towards the end before the beast
comes out the second time, um,when he he tells her, like, once
he realizes like, oh, this gotout of hand, I'm not in control
anymore.
That he told her, like, here'swhere my pew is, here's where
the shells are um get it and me.
(42:10):
Like clear because he would herealized at that point, like, I
have no control, I can't standit.
SPEAKER_03 (42:14):
They took him over right away again.
SPEAKER_00 (42:16):
Yeah.
Um, oh, something I wanted tobring up really quick.
The girl hiding in the in the uhlocker.
I don't think that's ever a goodidea.
I think you just keep running.
Yeah.
Because if he knows you're notrunning anymore, you gotta be
somewhere.
Right.
So I I just I don't see thepoint in hiding.
Uh I would say the same thing.
SPEAKER_01 (42:36):
They way too they tried way too late to get out of
those rooms.
unknown (42:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (42:41):
I agree.
SPEAKER_01 (42:41):
You should have immediately started searching
for shit to be able to get out.
SPEAKER_00 (42:45):
Also, when they were in the kitchen, could have
easily just killed him.
SPEAKER_03 (42:49):
I you I think that that was the uh the trauma
response.
They were too afraid to try thethings that would actually work.
SPEAKER_00 (42:56):
Like, but it's so frustrating because like it was
because uh for like the lastlike 40 minutes of the movie
before that, those two girls arelike, we have to do it, we have
to go crazy, we have to doeverything, and then smack him
in the back with a chair andthen run away.
Right, keep smacking, right?
SPEAKER_03 (43:12):
Smack him in the back when and then hit him with
the knife.
SPEAKER_00 (43:15):
When what's her face?
Um uh Casey was in the bedroomwith Hedwig and he came at her
with the bat and she got the bataway from him.
Grab the bat, don't stophitting.
Right.
Like there was a couple timeswhere I'm like, you could have
you could have gone out.
Right.
That was your opportunity rightthere.
SPEAKER_03 (43:32):
I agree.
Uh they but I I know they, youknow, Chameleon did that on
purpose.
Yeah, I mean, so we wanted us tofeel that anxiety of like uh you
know, running, but running inyour sleep, you know, your
sheets are trapped around yourlegs and you just can't run.
SPEAKER_00 (43:49):
Yeah, I would say that what's his face?
Uh Kevin had a a little bit ofplot armor.
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (43:56):
For sure.
SPEAKER_00 (43:57):
As you know, not counting the ending of the
Bullets Don't Hurt Me Anymore.
Yeah, I would agree.
I would agree.
SPEAKER_01 (44:05):
Not even counting that.
Also, was bro playing like whatwhat was bro's situation?
They just let him sleep and liveunder the goddamn zoo.
SPEAKER_03 (44:14):
I don't know.
Uh maybe they didn't know he wasthere.
SPEAKER_00 (44:17):
Yeah, I would imagine they didn't know.
Do you guys notice the 23toothbrushes?
Yeah.
That was a cool little detail.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (44:25):
The maintenance room is down there.
SPEAKER_00 (44:27):
Right.
So they knew that.
Well, I wonder if this was likeI wonder if there was like old
abandoned part of it thatthey're like, ah, we never go
down there.
That seems silly.
Like that would not actuallyexist.
SPEAKER_03 (44:38):
I mean, it did, but it didn't by the by the uh
guard's reaction.
Like for a minute, you you'rebringing up something.
I wish I I remembered thisearlier.
You're bringing up somethingthat hit me hard.
I thought the security guard wasin on it.
I was like, was this guy likethe mentor for Kevin?
Yeah, you know, but he was like,What are you doing down here?
And he like walks her out.
(44:58):
I'm like, What?
Who is this guy?
Uh was he the one that that shewas talking to on the
walkie-talkie?
Because like when he tells Oh,maybe when he tells the other
guard and the other guard likefreaked out, I was like, Were
these the fucking idiots thatshe was talking to?
Yeah.
He's like, I don't know where weare.
SPEAKER_00 (45:15):
I think the beach is.
She was talking to the the blackguy in the in the right, she was
so talking to him because whenhe realized he was like, Oh
fuck.
SPEAKER_03 (45:23):
Like but they didn't expand on that.
Like, I I really wanted them toexpound on it and tell me what
but you're so well, I think theygave us enough.
SPEAKER_00 (45:30):
You're so right.
That is a hundred percent whoshe was talking to.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (45:34):
Yeah.
Um, I would give this a probablyeight out of ten, just for I
would give it an eight, yeah.
A great movie.
Um, what else was I gonna say?
Oh, the reason the beast is thebeast is because he's in a zoo,
and that's what it's based offthe animals he's seen there.
SPEAKER_03 (45:53):
Once again, Sam's clutch I got from it.
I think I think Casey had alove-hate understanding of him,
probably noticed traumaresponses in him, which is a big
reason why he wouldn't do whyshe wouldn't do serious damage
to him.
And then she tells us that yousee more examples of this in Mr.
Glass.
SPEAKER_00 (46:11):
Yeah, but I'm not even talking about Casey.
Like one of the other girls hadhad an opportunity.
SPEAKER_03 (46:16):
That was that was the the overall.
We wished that one of them wouldhave taken the uh taken the
attack to him.
Like they were saying that theywould, but well, even when they
did, they like hit him and ran.
Right.
He could have sprayed him in hiseyes.
SPEAKER_00 (46:31):
Yeah, like he was already he was down.
unknown (46:33):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (46:34):
Keep going.
SPEAKER_03 (46:35):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (46:35):
So's not gonna survive bleach to the eyes.
Well, he'll survive.
Anyways, he'll he might goblind.
I think he'll split off againand then not be blind, though.
SPEAKER_00 (46:45):
I think this was a really good movie.
Um, again, I think uh JamesMcAvoy deserved awards for this
movie.
I think the acting wasphenomenal.
Um also Anya Taylor Joy, greatactress, love her.
Uh before the Queen's Gambit.
Yep.
She was she used to be achameleon.
SPEAKER_03 (47:02):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (47:03):
Uh, but yeah, I think this was a great movie.
Uh let's see.
I wasn't keeping track of pointsor anything.
Um, but it's okay.
I don't think we even likehalfway do that anymore.
Nah, it's a vibe.
It's a vibe.
SPEAKER_01 (47:21):
I kind of do.
SPEAKER_00 (47:22):
It's just a vibe.
Alex, you want to give uh oursocials?
SPEAKER_03 (47:26):
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(47:51):
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Give us your criticism,critiques, recommendations, any
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SPEAKER_00 (48:15):
All right, thank you for that.
For the winner.
Uh that's my drum.
Oh.
That's my drum roll.
Alex! I'm gonna give you the wintoday.
Mostly because you're all deckedout on will you survive merch,
and we now have merch.
We have merch! Uh, so go checkout our merch on our TikTok
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shore uh store.
Go pick up a hoodie rigged.
Go pick up a hoodie.
Hide yourself merch up.
Yeah, well, Alex is literally awalking sponsorship.
I am.
Uh so I'm gonna go ahead andgive you the win so that you can
lead us into the next episode.
Um, but thank you boys forjoining me on this uh movie.
I hope you guys liked the movie.
(48:57):
Loved it.
It's a it's a good one.
I really like it.
Um, and until next time, stayalive.
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