Exploring America's first case where demonic possession was used as a murder defense, we dive into the true story behind The Conjuring 3 and extract survival lessons that apply to any life-threatening situation.
• Teamwork and trust form the foundation of survival in crisis situations
• Staying calm under pressure helps maintain clear thinking when facing threats
• Knowledge is power - researching potential dangers before entering new environments
• Faith provides strength when confronting seemingly impossible challenges
• Courage means facing fears instead of running from them, even when terrified
• Multiple survival strategies from the Warren cases apply to everyday dangerous encounters
• Understanding your environment and being prepared increases survival chances dramatically
• Communication between team members is crucial when facing threats together
If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to check out our previous Conjuring movie breakdowns and let us know which survival horror film you'd like us to analyze next!
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
uh, minus one point for TJ.
Hello, survivors, and welcometo another episode of Will you
Survive, the Podcast.
I guess, I kind of forgot thewhole thing.
I almost said the podcast, butTJ for talking through it, minus
one point.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Alex, thank you for being quiet, plus one point.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
This is a podcast where we normally watch a movie.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Usually about zombies or survival of some sort, and
then we talk about said survivalthat we've talked about.
There are no zombies in thisone, minus one for talking again
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
This is a podcast Minus one point for talking.
Again, crazy.
Uh, this is a podcast minus onepoint for talking what the fuck
am I?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
gonna do pantomime to the goddamn audience you can
shut the fuck up while I'mtalking.
No, that's that.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
That was kind of the reason out with minus one point
immediately bitch, I'm gonna beoff the road this episode.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We watched the Conjuring 3, the Devil Made Me
Do it, and I'm joined here by mytwo co-hosts who also watched
said movie.
Alex, that's me wow.
Nice introduction plus onepoint and TJ suck my big fat
black cock wow, that's bringingrace into it, minus one thank
(01:45):
you for the tiny dinies.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Josh, that's bringing race into it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Minus one, thank you for the tiny dinies, josh,
that's two tiny dinies.
I think I've lost him, see.
What I don't think he'sremembering is that the last
episode we made a handshake dealand said handshake deal also
had to do with the outcome ofthis episode.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh.
And he lost that handshake deal.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, so this episode is a little predetermined well,
no, I could pull up the thingright now.
Me losing is not a part of thedeal yeah, I think it was no,
it's.
If he brings it up, then hedoesn't win the next episode.
It's not if he doesn't bring itup.
Tj loses the next episode.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Previously on Will you Survive the Podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I think he's going to go more religious or not more
religious, more survival on thisone.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, if he does go religious, I win the next
episode you host.
Okay, handshake deal, okay,deal, okayshake deal, okay, deal
, okay, handshake deal 3, 2, 1Deal.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, but in order for him to not win this episode,
he has to win this episode, soWell it's either guaranteed or
it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's what the fucking thing was.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, we're seeing it play out right now, aren't we?
So the Conjuring 3?
Oh, yeah, also, oh, but Ialready introduced you guys,
never mind, um, yeah, yeah,during three dog shit movie.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Worst of the conjurings, that's my wow, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, that's fucking boring right away the little
start of it was great boring therest of the way really I don't
think I'd be quite that harsh onit, but I, I also won't lie, it
was not my favorite.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
No, I think Conjuring 2 was my favorite.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Really.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I think the first one set a great tone.
The second one like I don'tknow how to describe it it got
more like Hollywood than thesecond one.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And then the third one was kind of just the same
thing as the second one.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So for anybody who might be living under a rock who
hasn't seen this movie, youwant me to read them out.
The storyline Sure.
Do that A chilling story ofterror, murder and unknown evil
that shocked even experiencedreal life paranormal
investigators, ed and LorraineWarren.
One of the most sensationalcases from their files.
It starts with a fight for thesoul of a young boy, then takes
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them beyond anything they'veever seen before to mark the
first time in US history that amurder suspect would claim
demonic possession as a defense.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Oh, wow, plus one, alex.
That was great.
Great reading, woo.
So this is actually based on atrue case.
If I know the details correctly, which I might not, he was
ultimately charged withmanslaughter right.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Right.
Convicted of manslaughter.
Convicted of manslaughter yeah,like the end of the movie says.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, so that's pretty good in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah To go from.
He got five years.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What were they charging him with?
Second degree murder?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, pretty good, they didn't try to give him the
death penalty pretty good to godown from that to, uh, to
manslaughter.
Now, from what I, from what I,I did some reading.
I didn't actually read theending, like the what happened.
I did some reading on my own,um, from what I was reading, he,
uh, there were reports thatwhen he killed the was it a
(05:02):
landlord.
Yeah, yeah, when he killed thewas it a landlord.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, when he killed the landlord, they described him
as in a trance-like state and Ithink that really helped when
it came to claiming demonicpossession, that everyone was
like it didn't look like him.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It helped in the media.
The judge ultimately ruled thatit couldn't be used as a
defense because it can't bescientifically proven.
There's no expert who couldtake the stand and say, yes, he
was.
So he ended up um throwing outthe defense, but clearly it
still worked in the court ofpublic opinion.
Because I don't know, um Idon't know if the prosecutors
(05:39):
sought first degree manslaughterafter he tried the defense and
lost, or if that was just thethe route that uh, like they
tried the new wave of uhprosecution where they throw
everything at the wall and seewhat sticks.
So I don't know how it actuallywent down on the pleading
papers if they tried him formurder, first degree, second
(06:00):
degree, first degreemanslaughter, uh, involuntary
manslaughter, all all of thedifferent things.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Just see what what they can convict them of what?
What stuck?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
So I don't know if that's the case, but that's kind
of what it gives me the vibes,because the prosecution was
trying to go for everything, itseemed.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Any thoughts on that TJ.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I mean, I did a little bit of reading on this
case and it's, I feel, like Icould have just went for the
insanity plea if he was in atrance light state.
You know, I think so.
I instead of you know the devilmade me do it, which is the
kind of headline of this.
Um, also shout out to uh arnjohnson he's still alive.
He's the same age as uh alex 57damn.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
No, I'm not.
5700, yeah, 750, oh yeah 750.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh, dicks, a timeless game.
Rest in peace to his baby girl,because she died.
They were together until 2021.
She passed away.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh, his girlfriend, yeah, his shoddy Okay.
When you said that I thoughtyou meant his daughter.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I don't know.
I think he has a daughter.
Let's look it up.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You said his baby girl, yeah, baby girl.
So I looked it up while youguys were talking and, yes, the
prosecution did charge him withmurder, but they were only able
to convict him of first degreemanslaughter.
So it did work in the court ofpublic opinion getting him, uh,
getting him sympathy with thejurors, and I think it did help
in ways to get his story outthere that he wasn't aware of
what was going on and it alsodidn't, um, didn't hurt that him
and, uh, his landlord, whichwas, um, actually alan bono, I
(07:29):
think, was his real name.
It was a different name um they,they were actually friends.
It described them as being veryclose so it was really shocking
and disturbing, absolutelykilled him because, like
everything that you saw in themovie which anybody who didn't
see the movie it had some reallycreepy undertones, like the
landlord was being overly grabbyon Arnie Johnson's fiance,
(07:54):
debbie, and that's kind of howthey were playing it out, but in
reality it was that's how theyalways were.
They were always very goofygoofy together.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
They were always clowning around and so it was
very weird for him to respondthe way he did even in the in
the movie it wasn't necessarilywhat the guy was doing because
the guy was drunk, he was drunkoff of his ass.
But when arnie was losing hismind and was like going when he
(08:27):
was being haunted for that firsttime and going crazy, um, his
girlfriend was like dancing withthe landlord.
Like she wasn't like oh my god,get off me at first because she
was like annoyed at first, butthen she's like oh my god, that.
It was kind of like that, likeoh my God, my drunk uncle, kind
of vibe Exactly.
Like oh my God, this guy, he'sfunny.
Like he's funny, he's just, hehad too much, he doesn't mean
(08:50):
any harm.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
What do you think of this?
Because I kind of thought inthe while I was watching it you
just gave a differentperspective, which is very
viable.
What about?
Arnie is seeing it in the waythat he's being annoying and
grabby and but reality was shewas fine with it, like, not even
like.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh god my but she was just like, oh my god, it was,
was that he was seeing like thecompany, because they showed us
a couple things they shouldright.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
They showed us a couple of times where, even when
ed saw something that wasn'twas it ed?
I'm sorry, it might have beenlorraine.
Um, they saw something thatwasn't real.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It was somebody else yeah, like lorraine was stabbing
somebody in the wood.
Oh, yeah it wasn't actuallyhappening.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And then that, but wasn't, didn't she almost attack
ed, like she thought ed was the, the demon?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
in the house.
Yeah, yeah, no, I think healmost attacked her.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
He almost did, and it was her.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, was that at the end?
When he's smashing with thefreaking hammer.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Not yet.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Not yet when they possessed Right before that,
when he found the totem in hishouse in the flower pot.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right before then.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It was the big fucker , yes, from the morgue before
then it was the the big, the bigfucker, yes, that was chasing
him, yeah, chasing him.
And then he went to kill it andright before he did, um, it was
lorraine, and then he likesnapped out of it.
And that's when he knew like ohno, she has something here yeah
, she, she got me good.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Good yeah, I.
Uh, that's what I was reallylike.
Witchcraft freaks me out.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I like witchcraft shit, and I don't blame me um
how much do you know about it?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I just thought of another movie that I would want
to watch on here.
How much do I know about what?
Witchcraft project, yeah,witchcraft in general yeah I
mean I know, you know some stuffhere and there.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I know a lot of stuff from like movies and some stuff
from like other research, likeso I want to be clear when we
talk about witchcraft, I meanactual witchcraft, not these
fucking california girls who arelike I have a book that's life
in wicca or life in wicca, andit's not that witchcraft yeah
the real shit, the evil shitwell, you know it's kind of
(10:59):
similar to like voodoo and shit.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know it's like a lot of just like you know you
don't like somebody, you cursethem or you know you you do a
spell to whatever the fuck youknow and you'll like fill a jar
with fucking eye of newt andshit you know which.
Like all of those uh, all ofthose like ingredients are like
actual things.
They're not like a literal eyeof newt, like it's something
(11:22):
else, like a plant or somethinglike I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean right Um.
What do you know aboutwitchcraft?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Most of my knowledge comes from books, uh, books on
the occult.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Mustard seed.
Mustard seed is big, is eye ofnewt.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And um so I?
I don't know anything about,about what we today call
witchcraft.
I know more of literature basedupon the.
Shall we call it the entity?
It would be like the church ofwitchcraft, the occult um it's a
lot of satan worship.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's a lot of yeah, I know about like the rituals
right and shit.
I listened to a lot of podcastson those.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I was pretty fascinated by the sal witch
trials.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I remember one time I'm a little devastated to know
that they were wrong more thanever.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, yeah, you know, your wife is being a fucking
asshole Witch.
Well, there was something else.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
There was something else that really just blew my
mind.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It was a lot of fear.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Connect two dots that I never thought of.
A lot of women who were chargedwith being witches were maidens
or matrons.
They were single.
A lot of women who were chargedwith being witches were maidens
or matrons.
They were single.
A lot of maidens who weresingle had cats.
Cats do wonders at eliminatingrodents.
Many of the women who survivedthe plagues did were accused of
being witches because they werenever stricken with ill like
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everybody else and it was just asimple fact that the freaking
cats killed the rats and keptthem away from their own that's
like some civilizations and likeum, you know, like there'll be
a civilization who will like,did they?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
they wash their hands like, like let's say yeah they
wash their hands and like shitlike that, you know, for like
religious purposes, like in.
You know, I can't think of theword, I'm slightly intoxicated,
but um, they do that rightmeanwhile, all these nasty ass.
You know other people who don'tdo like you know, they don't
wash their hands and do all thatshit.
So it's like they get sick andit's like, oh, the people who
(13:17):
are washing their hands and shitdon't.
And they're like, oh, it'sbecause they're fucking evil.
You know, I'm saying I've I've.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
There's a lot of things in the Bible that I've
realized I think I might havetalked about this on the podcast
where there's some things inthe Bible where it's like, oh,
these people were just likesomething not quite this exact
thing, but something along thoselines where it's like Jesus
says to do this what seems likekind of like an odd thing to say
, to do, but then, knowingmodern science, you're like,
(13:47):
yeah, obviously, wash your hands.
That makes fucking sense.
Like things like that.
Where you're like, oh, nowonder they saw it as as like
this, because at the time it was, but they would see it as like
this uh kind of marvelous thing,like, oh, wow, how did he, how
did he know that it's keeping ussafe?
Or I feel like I'm not gettingmy point across very well here.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Well, simplistic things.
You're very similar to what TJis saying, if I'm understanding
you right, like come inside,take off your unlatch your
sandals, wash your feet.
And it's like wow, you knowthese are marvelous things.
Well yeah, except for you knowyou're outside traipsing around,
you're stepping in poop,literally.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You, you're stepping in poop, literally.
You come back in your home.
What's the smartest thing to do?
Kick your shoes off, wash yourfeet and then walk around.
Yeah, you know, we are likewhen, when, um god, I forget who
it was, but basically I thinkmaybe it was daniel I, I can't
remember but basically god tellsthem, um, eat some bread and
take a nap.
And and they do, and then theyfelt better and you're like wow,
it's biblical.
If you're feeling, take a napand eat some food.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You'll be fine, crazy .
So what you're telling me isI'm spitting scripture every
time Madison tells me she's aheadache.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, every time you're like, have you drank
water?
Have you drank water, that'sbiblical.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
It's on Bible.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Taking a nap.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
So one of the things I could bring up regarding this
particular movie that does haveto do with survival outside of
just the spiritual realm is wesee this in all three of these
movies.
So I put this together based onall three of the movies.
It's teamwork and trust andthat would work in any survival
situation that you're stuck withsomebody.
I mean it works out very wellthat they're husband and wife,
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but let's face it, even husbandsand wives don't communicate as
well as this couple did Likethey.
They worked it out a little, alittle too well.
That might be the mostHollywood thing about this, this
film.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, you know, I actually find that more
believable because, like thefirst movie, one of my beefs was
that it felt like they weren'ttelling each other what they
needed to, like Lorraine wouldwould constantly not tell him
things that she saw, and I'mlike I feel like that's
something you should share withthe guy you're investigating
with.
That just seems like someimportant details.
And I noticed the same thing inthe second movie, this one.
(15:52):
It did seem like they were real, uh, real connected, just
everything they that they saw orheard together.
And you know why?
I think it's because a lot morehappened to ed, yeah, then to
lorraine, and he would tell herwhen, when things were were
happening, or I guess thingswere more vivid this time.
Like in the first movie, itwasn't.
Lorraine got like she felt likethree stories down, she got
(16:15):
hurt, but she wasn't likepossessed and and doing the
actions yeah of the past.
Oh, yeah, yeah, so this was alot more physical and she
couldn't just be like, oh, itwas nothing, I don't want to
talk about it, because hewatched her do it yep, no,
that's, that's good what about,um, I guess.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I guess we would say uh, I want to play devil's
advocate just a little bit onthat point, which is I
understand and I actually agreewith you.
But what if her mentality wassaying don't tell him lest you
make it come true?
It's kind of like think of backto the future, think of back to
the future you can't know youcan't know the future because if
you know the future, you'regoing to alter the outcome.
(16:54):
So I can't tell you what happens, right, which destroys the
whole premise for part two andpart three.
But you know, nonetheless it's,it's fun, but the idea behind
it remains the same is I can'ttell you the future because if I
tell you it won't happen.
Doctor Strange with Iron man inMarvel, it's always a common
premise amongst time travel orseeing in the future.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's a good point, doctor Strange to say.
If I tell you, what happens, itwon't.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
So I don't know if that's her mentality, and I
actually agree with you on this,but I think, like you're,
you're going through this forthe first time.
You don't have a user's manualon your gift and maybe she's
thinking dude, if I tell youwhat I saw, I'm either gonna
make it happen or like what if Imake it happen by telling you
what happens, yeah, but to mewhen I, but when it comes to a
religious, standpoint no, no,but when it comes to oh when it
(17:38):
comes to a religious standpoint.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
My thought would be that that seems like confusion,
and god's not the author ofconfusion in my mind.
If you're dealing withsomething like this, you just
need to be united and share allthat info.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Just be a completely united front, uh, against this
enemy, because its whole thingis going to be to try and and
make you feel isolated andseparate you yep, no, I
completely agree with that so,um, I I have been over here
having thoughts, just randomthoughts that I need to bring
out to the universe uh, so ifyou're, if your survival
shelter's in the woods, right,yep, you know, apocalyptic
situation.
(18:10):
Uh, you want to ward off people?
I'm, I'm saying, wow, you know,I would do.
I was just get like a scavengeanimal jaws and shit and just
make the witchiest looking shit,just just that I can just hang
them from trees and shit and therational motherfuckers would
turn away or even thesuperstitious ones, that was my
first, rational, yeah, yeah,yeah, rational and superstitious
(18:32):
, they're gone that was my firstthought.
My second thought is where'sthis bitch getting all the jaws
from to make her?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
shit, right, right um .
I think they were goat, but I,I, I don't know for sure I
couldn't, I couldn't tell um.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And then third thought, which was related to
the back to the future thing.
I like the time travel betterin like marvel than I do in back
to the future.
I like the fact that it splitsoff into another timelines
instead of fucking I like thatshit.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
How dare you?
Who's to say that Back to theFuture doesn't?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, it's like.
Well, they talked about it, forsure, they did split a timeline
and he actually went back intime to a different timeline.
When he went back in part two,he went back to 1985.
It was completely different.
His dad was dead.
Biff was in charge of the wholecity, he owned the whole town,
basically and he lived withlorraine in a high-rise casino
(19:28):
in the penthouse suite.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
See, it was related because there's a motherfucker
named lorraine in black.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
To the future, I know , right brought it, brought it
full circle confirm these twomovies in the same universe so
uh, next thing I could bring upif we're done.
If we're done with that point,yo, wouldn't that be a crazy,
like you know, fucking in thefuture.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We invent time travel , and then there's a case like,
hey, I had to kill themotherfucker Because if I didn't
, the future is going to befucked up.
Do you think that would slide?
I feel like you know?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, I think you'd have to have some real solid
proof.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Wasn't that that was in deadpool, wasn't it?
I think that was in deadpool.
He went back and he saw adolfhitler as a baby and he was like
, oh god, why is this?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
so hard?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
oh wait, I do remember that, yeah I thought
you were talking about how cablewent back in uh to in time to
kill russell yeah, that's what Ithought he was talking about at
first, but I forgot about thatscene.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh yeah, no, I wasn't that like an ending credit
scene, like it was like flashingthrough a bunch.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I think so I'm not stole his.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I don't remember yeah he took the, the little watch,
or whatever yeah, that's why hisgirl's alive in the the third
one, because it is canonalternate universe I mean it is
now.
They're in the marvel, likemean.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I mean anyways anyway , that's true, the devil made me
do it okay, so another likestrategic, another strategic
Bible.
Was that me?
Yeah what the hell?
How hold on, let me.
Oh, that's why, because itwouldn't let me change that what
happened.
My phone went off and Icouldn't figure out how I had to
(21:06):
actually rookie, rookie, rookie.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
My shit's, my shit's off minus one point tj so is it
just?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
every time I insult him alex your beard's stupid.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Wow, that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I just felt like doing it, oh alex, you look like
an expired milk day.
You know how it gets the layerwhite around it so it kind of
dulls the color.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I'll be specific Expired.
Milk Duds.
Alex, I'll give you plus one.
That's also a good band namethe Expired Milk Duds.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Expired Milk Duds.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
There's a band called I think it's called the Chats
Just a group of Australian dudeswho make like their entire
album sounds like music thatwould be on Skate 3.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I listen to a band called Divorce Culture.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, you know that one song FM, I think it's by
them.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I really like that song and it's actually really
good.
I got I gotta listen to music.
Dude, you think I'm notcultured.
I'm cultured, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
So go on, alex so there's another element of
survival that can be brought outof these films, and I think we
might have mentioned this before, but it's important in all
survival situations stay calmunder pressure.
I thought you're gonna say stayalive don't let yourself panic
you gotta keep breathing youknow it's letting yourself
hyperventilate is like one ofthe the worst things you could
(22:28):
do when you're in a highpressure situation yeah so you
gotta make sure you stay calm,keep breathing deep breaths and,
uh, keep your faculties aboutyou.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of that's a good one in all
situations, yeah, even worksituations.
There's just I work in a pretty, I would say, a pretty high
stress environment most of thetime Maybe not most of the time,
but a good chunk of time.
There there's just a lot thatcould go wrong at any moment and
there's, you know, we could doas much as we can to minimize
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those risks, but they're alwaysthere.
Um, so yeah, I mean there'snothing good comes out of
panicking, absolutely nothing.
It's way better to just be calmand it's, you know, easier said
than done.
But I don't know, there's apiece that comes with it when
you're like it'll work out Ijust gotta easier to deal with
adrenaline when you're panickingthan when you're calm.
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You ever been full of adrenalinebut you're calm oh yeah, you're
like fucking you can feel yourheart beating and your like
hands are shaking it almostmakes me feel crazy because I'm
like, I feel like my I'm I'mmaking my body react in a
non-natural way, like my bodywants to go a million miles a
minute.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Just calm down, bro, you're tweaking.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
But it's crazy because I'm like sometimes I
feel like that's just me on thenormal, you know, like my
brain's going a million miles aminute and I'm trying to keep my
body from not doing that, sosometimes it doesn't feel too
different.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So I get a different kind of feeling and one of my
favorite memories of childhoodcomes from playing roller hockey
and we had this other group ofkids who this was not organized
in any way, shape or form, thisother group of kids who played
on a team.
They saw us playing and theywere, you know, talking shit
because we were a ragtag bunch.
It was like it was Mighty Ducksbefore Mighty Ducks came out
and we were just.
We were just kids with no pads,no, nothing.
Some of us were on rollerblades, some of us weren't, we were
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just doing what we did and theywanted to play against us and,
uh, I mean, we whipped their ass.
But the funny part came when,just like you're talking about
high pressure, you know we can'tlet them win, right, you can't
be walking around getting talkedshit on about these, these
fucking punks.
And I got my opportunity.
They came down hard on a uh, ona breakaway.
I'm the goaltender, shot thepuck and, just like you guys are
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talking, I knew it wasadrenaline, my heart was racing
but I was breathing, I wasconcentrating and I saw myself,
before I did it, catch that puckand I sure as fuck did like it
was.
I saw it happen before ithappened.
So when I hear people say,visualize it, right, right,
visualize it happening, pictureyourself doing it.
I understand that.
You know they tell baseballplayers that Picture yourself
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hitting the ball, pictureyourself catching the ball.
I understand that completely.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's like I had to read this stupid fucking book in
high school.
I think it was either highschool or early college.
I hated this book.
I thought it was so stupid.
I still think it's stupid, butit stuck with me for a while,
which makes me hate it more andit was called like, um, like
superheroes, or like becoming asuperhero, or unlocking your
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superhero, something like that.
It was basically a book aboutflow states and a very
scientific thing.
It's basically just adrenalinethat's controlled, and but they
talked about it in this book as,like they talked about in this
very fantastical, like superherotype of way.
They would talk about like, uh,the skater who jumped the great
wall of china, yep, and thesurfer who rode the highest wave
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, recorded on on on record, likethings like that.
Um, and they would make it likethis super fantastical, like
magic type thing and it's likethey just had a shit ton of
adrenaline and they'reprofessionals, they know what
they're doing, yep, I mean that.
That's really what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I don't think I can get cracked up on adrenaline and
be like I'm gonna ride thisfucking wave now I feel like
that's, I think it's, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I mean yeah, if you don't know what you're doing,
just shoots up some adrenaline,I'm gonna do a fucking kickflip
over this ball of fire.
Yeah, they make it sound likeit's like if you enter this flow
state, you could do anything.
You're, you're just invisibleand I'm like no, you also have
to know what you're doing, justfucking have to know your
limitations so the guy whojumped the great wall of china,
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that wasn't his first time on askateboard or his first time
jumping something I, I like that, I like that that explanation?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
um, only because it perfectly explains what happens
when you go wrong, when you haveadrenaline like that.
I don't know if you've ever hadthis happen to you, but I used
to skateboard and there weredays that I couldn't miss a
trick.
I'm going to land on my feet onmy board every single time.
It just seems so easy.
And then there was this oneparticular day and I couldn't do
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the most basic tricks and Ishould have given up your board
and your feet just would not.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
They would not connect.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I was the set of stairs.
I would grind this railingevery single day that we were
down there.
It's it's the school rightbehind my parents house and we
would go down to the lower lot,and I would, everybody would do
it.
We would grind the uh, the curblot and I would, everybody
would do it.
We would grind the curb becauseit was a really tall curb.
So you could ride up, grind thecurb, everything and then you
ride, you grind the railing downto the lower level and it's
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only like six steps.
You know you could jump it easy.
We used to jump it barefoot,you know but I just kept falling
, missing the board, landing onit sideways, kicking it out from
from under me, every kind ofmistake you can possibly make
with it.
And then, one odd time, I'mstanding still.
We're not, I'm not rolling, I'mstanding still and I try to
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just do a kickflip and I landedit.
But when I landed it I landedwrong and so I shot the board
out from under me and fell onthe ground.
And I remember looking at myfriend and I was like damn dude,
I haven't fallen on my ass in along time.
This is weird.
Then we're goofing off, talking, whatever, whatever.
Oh, let's do this.
And it was this nice drivewaythat you can use as a ramp.
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Ollie, over the fire hydrant,tried to do it, caught my back
truck on the top bolt of thefire hydrant.
I supermaned, landed on my chin, folded over, and I remember my
friends thinking that I wasdead because I was looking.
I was knocked out cold is whatit was but my eyes were open and
they freaked out, though theythought I was dead because I was
staring up at the sky, notmoving.
Not, they were waving theirhands in front of me and I'm not
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responding, and I heard themsay go get his mom, go get his
mom.
And I woke up and I was likewhat happened.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
They told me what happened.
He was doing all of that onthis.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Listen to this guy.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Oh wow, the first ever skateboard.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Look at this guy In the 1950s.
Yeah, yeah, 1950s.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Wow, that actually looks pretty dope 1994, you
dicks and then, once he grew upa little bit, he got one of
these.
You can see it right, assfucking phone.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh, there it is.
What in the world is that?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
oh my god, that was in the 80s dude.
Yeah, with all the plasticbumpers all over it.
Yeah, I had that on the bottom.
It was like a, it was like a.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The first one he showed was like this it
literally looked like a piece ofwood with wheels bolted onto it
um.
The second one he showed waslike this red board with a skull
on it.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Josh said it was a flat piece of wood when he was
first started skating you dicksokay let's just call it a
snowboard.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
So I'm snowboarded too um, but yeah, yeah, I know
what you mean.
There's not in a less physicalway.
Uh, sometimes, when there'ssome days where my guitar
playing is flawless, I'm soloinglike I've never soloed before.
All my chords come out so cleanand fresh, my finger picking
sounds so full and rich, andit's all perfectly balanced.
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I'm not hitting the high endtoo high or too much, I'm not
hitting the low end too hard,it's all perfectly flawless.
Then there's other days where Ipick up the guitar and I go to
play something I've played abillion times and I just cannot
fucking do it, and I'll make thestupidest mistakes over and,
over and over and over, andthere's certain days where I'm
just like it's just not a guitarday, I'm just I'm gonna put it
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down it just reminds me of theuh disney pixar movie fucking
soul like everybody doing theirthing and then they go into like
the flow state and yeah kind ofeverything goes black, but it's
just you vibing yeah like Icould lock in on rainbow six
siege.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If I wanted to, I've done fucking 30.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Something kills a game you know, that's a good
point too.
That's it.
That's a good example too.
Very rare I've had those.
I've had those on call of duty,modern warfare, where I just I
couldn't miss a shot.
I could not miss.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh, I'm thinking of a specific time when tj fucking
went into a flow state againstme recently.
Oh shit, we were playing modernwarfare.
We were on the stupid map rustand this guy I I'm not gonna.
I was kicking his ass for mostof the game.
Then there was this one momentwhere he was at the top of the
map and he just knew exactlywhere I was going to spawn like
15 times in a row we were doingfucking sniper.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I couldn't fucking move.
I would spawn dive, fire, spawndive.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Fire Spawn dive.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
He knew exactly what he just entered, this flow state
where he knew exactly where Iwas spawning.
He knew the spawn points and hewas manipulating them too.
He knew exactly where to standto get me to spawn somewhere
else and I there was nothing Icould do about it.
It took me so long to break outof that cycle and I've
definitely felt that, especiallyon siege.
I felt that where, all of asudden, I hear everything, I
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hear the guy stepping outsidethe window and I'll, perfectly,
I'll shoot through the windowand on the kill cam.
It looks like I'm hacking, butI'm like I don't know how to
explain that.
I heard your footsteps and it'sjust like.
It's like I could see you on theother side I know exactly where
you are yeah and there's justsome days where it's like that
and other days where, man, Ican't hear a guy who's standing
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right in front of me exactly sowhat?
The.
So, going back to this movie,uh, what do you know about like
specifically like witchcraft andsummoning demons, kind of thing
?
Speaker 3 (32:04):
what do I know about that?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
is there anything accurate to this where, like a
witch, could summon a demon togo after other people?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
oh yeah, absolutely.
Uh, we have it.
Actually, those are some ofsome of of the oldest roots of
voodoo of zombies, which wassummoning a corpse to go after
people.
It would do your will,basically because, theoretically
, legally speaking, if a corpsekilled somebody- what are they
going to do?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
arrest it?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Who's charged right?
There are some roots of voodoo.
Well, it's voodoo mixed withCatholicism, mixed with paganism
that creates Santeria, whichhas a lot of that.
There are things like thevoodoo doll, love potions.
Love potions are really creepybecause it's like a long-term
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intoxication that would make youfeel a certain way, like if
you've ever been emotional whenyou're drunk.
Imagine that long-term and youcan't snap out of it, and so
things like that, which I can'tprove it.
This is like the Arnie Johnsoncase.
I can't prove it, but a lot ofit has to do with demonic
control and demonic influenceand witchcraft, I think, has a
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lot of its roots in it.
You could go all the way back.
You referenced the Bible, allthe way back, the sorcerers of
Pharaoh, who were able to do thesame trick as Moses when he
threw his staff down and turnedit into a serpent.
They were like what's the bigdeal with that?
And they threw their staffsdown and they turned into
serpents.
So sorcery goes back as old asprostitution.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I remember recently going through that book again
and I remember I was tellingRosie about it.
I was like man, pharaoh suckedman.
There were so many times whereI'm like what more do you
fucking want?
The amount of times thatPharaoh would be like all right,
all right, all right, you win,you win, fine, you and God win,
go ahead.
And then immediately after waslike actually, I don't think
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I've learned my lesson yet.
Change my mind.
And and then most would be likeokay, this is gonna happen.
And he was like I don't thinkyou're telling the truth.
And then once again, it wouldhappen.
And then pharaoh's like allright, all right, you guys win.
And that happened like eighttimes.
It's crazy like you would thinkafter like one or two times,
pharaoh would be like you,probably the real shit.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Which I would like to bring up.
The next point here All threeof these movies show the same
and all survival movies,Everything related to survival.
This is a key point Knowledgeis power.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
The Warrens use their own expertise and they rely on
each other's expertise to workout their deal.
But in any situation,understanding your environment
and being prepared that's one ofthe things that we always say
regarding survival is beingprepared.
So if you're going to gosomewhere, you're going
somewhere new.
In our case, let's say we'renot going to go demon hunting or
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fighting or anything like that,we're going camping.
The smartest thing to do isresearch the area that you're
going to so that you understandit.
You know what's out there, whatare the predators, what are the
prey, what are the tracks?
Uh, what is?
What's the scat?
How can I recognize?
Those are the smart things todo when you're going to go out
into something else'senvironment yeah, learn what
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their habitat is research yourshit, be prepared I like that, I
like
Speaker 1 (35:21):
that I do like that was good I think you should do
that when you know that's just abear or a fucking deer or what?
Yeah, well, I mean, if you'remixing up bear poop and deer
poop, yeah, I think you're lost.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I mean, yeah, you see a fucking log versus like some
pebbles, and you're like oh,that log belongs to a jackalope.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
You see a giant fucking stinky pile and you're
like I'm probably fine.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
A giant stinky pile with fur and teeth in it.
I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
That doesn't seem like a predator's at all.
No.
I think, that's a good rule forif you're going anywhere, even
if you're going to a differentstate or a different, especially
, I would say, a differentcountry, look up common laws
that you should know about.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
That's good too.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's a good point, because the thing is, just
because you don't know about alaw doesn't mean that you're not
going to be held to that law.
So you got to know the law ofthe land that you're going to
not going to be held.
That's right law.
So you got another law of theland that you're going to and I
think that's.
I think, as americans, that'soften uh, maybe overlooked might
be the word, because in europethey travel between countries so
often because every country isthe size of their foot and in
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america, basically our versionof that is traveling amongst the
states, but we have the giantfederal law that goes across all
the states.
But we have the giant federallaw that goes across all the
states.
So you know, there's the commonthings that we all know.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
There's random little laws in other states but most
of those are like misdemeanorsin any walk on a wednesday
afternoon with a salmon in yourright hand without holding a
bible or else you'll get 25years in state penitentiary.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Don't spit gum on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
That's not very valid .
Speaker 3 (37:05):
It's still on the books in Massachusetts, I think
we should, I'm going to takeEric to the gum wall.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You ever been to the gum wall in Seattle?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
No, I never have.
I'm going to take him to thegum wall.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's going to be magnificently disgusting and
he's going to be mesmerized.
We're going to take a selfie.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
And the people who say that they fucking lick the
wall.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh God, I would lick the wall for like a million
dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I understand that premise there.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Just for free.
You're a fucking freak.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's the same thing with the Liberty Bell, though
that's so gross.
I would never lick the LibertyBell, but here's the logic.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
There is logic to it.
It's out in the sun, day andnight.
Do you know?
The best disinfector in theworld is the sun.
It's in an alley, so if it getsno sun, or does it get?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I feel like it gets less than a full day's sun.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
No, it doesn't it doesn't need a full day because
an hour of sun is.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
It works wonders no amount of sun on a gum wall
would make me feel okay with no,no I.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I'm not disagreeing with you, I would never do it.
But I understand tj's premise.
I would do something utterlydisgusting for and I'm not
saying me, but what tj's sayingis I will do something utterly
disgusting for a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
The logic is there me , I, I don't, I don't think a
million dollars is worth it Ithink for a million dollars I
could do it, because I couldlogically just get my mind I
would lick the liberty bell fora million dollars twenty dollars
is twenty, I would.
I would lick the liberty bellfor a hundred thousand dollars
yeah, I I the liberty bell wouldactually, I would take
significantly less to do I waseven gonna say like 10 000
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skeleton of our first presidentI would not do that for health?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
reasons you are is the pocket freaking rancid?
I know right, I need to have apocket.
I cleaned out my pocket lint.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Well, I got the 20 I don't have to start, we would
have had a deal To disinfect it.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
You want to hear my next idea.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Survival related Okay , right, we've brought this up
in other movies Faith and belief, whether it's faith in yourself
, faith in your cause, faith inyour God.
You need faith if you're beingchallenged to your mortality.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I would agree.
I mean, I would say that I'msure you agree that humans are
made to serve something, so Iagree with that.
Actually, I don't think I wantto bring that up.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Well, so we saw this.
We covered the life of Pi lastweek and we kind of saw that
faith being a key for him, andit wasn't even necessarily faith
in a god.
This guy, I wouldn't sayworshipped multiple gods, but he
studied multiple gods and atthe time that he was going
through his ordeal beingshipwrecked and floating in the
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ocean he hadn't really made adecision or made peace with God,
if you will.
But he still had to have faithin something and I think we all
came to the same agreement thathis faith was in this story.
He created a survival tacticand it happened to work for him.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
He kept a quote-unquote tiger alive also I
don't think we brought it uphe'd be he was multiple
religions.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
To end the movie too, he was yeah, I don't think we
said it at the end, but it was.
It was never cleared up right.
He never went against, he neverfollowed through with his dad's
belief.
You have to believe one thingor you can't believe everything,
because you might as wellbelieve nothing which I still do
, kind of believe that but thatbelief, his faith in that movie,
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their faith in this movie, bothin god and in each other, was
their source of strength yeahand that's ended.
You know, ultimately, at the end, that's what saved him uh saved
her.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Another key factor that we haven't really discussed
is that uh ed was hurt in thisone um this was the the first
movie where he got fucking killbill punched in the heart and he
was like oh, yeah, oh yeah, hedid, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the
demon almost killed him on thefirst exorcism.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
That's right now.
Oh my gosh, drink, drinksomething.
How much do we know about EdWarren?
Did that actually happen?
Did he have a heart attackduring?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I mean, if you look at Ed Warren in real life, bro
was kind of chunky.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah he was.
They made him look really goodin the movies.
They cast a very good lookingactor for him.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
He was a chunky monkey, the chick who plays
Lorraine.
She's hotter than the actuallorraine, but like she fits the
vibe she does.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, she has a good vibe.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Good vibe, but like but did ed actually have a heart
attack?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
don't look like ed uh , I don't know if he had one
during uh, so I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
No, he did not, and okay, so that part was all, so
it dramat, so it dramatized theevent to make it.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
He had heartburn.
Now I do know that.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Lorraine, he had heartburn after dinner, before
the exorcism yeah, and then themovie is like it was a heart
attack.
Yeah, okay, hold on.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Let me say this though, just because just be
aware, aware anybody.
If you're not subject toheartburn normally and you have
heartburn, you might want to getchecked out because it does
present.
Heart attacks do present asheartburn or indigestion.
They can be confused one forthe other did I?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
did I talk about my indigestion story on this
podcast before the time?
I woke you up in the middle ofthe night because I thought I
was having a heart attack.
You remember that?
it was back in jackson I do yeah, I, I must have been like 19 or
something.
I remember knocking on alex'sdoor and I was like I know this
sounds stupid, but I feel likeI'm having a heart attack,
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because it was like the middleof the night, it was like 2 am
and my chest was so was I asleep, you guys were asleep huh, my
chest was so constricted.
You guys were asleep, my chestwas so constricted I felt like I
couldn't breathe and it wasjust hurting so bad.
And my fingertips were numb buton both hands and it was
hurting so bad, and so I wastrying to just like, oh, you
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know, maybe you know, I'm justhaving like a stomach problem.
Try turning this way.
Turning that way, nothing washelping.
After After a little bit, Istarted getting worried.
So I went and woke Alex up andI was like I know this sounds so
stupid because I there's no waythis is what it is, but it
feels like I'm having a heartattack.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
And that was when you told me you were like well,
you're a better man than me, Iwould have just thugged it out
Fucking died.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
No, I walk in my room by myself.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I'm like, I'm like, no bro.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
It's fine, don't be a pussy, die at 19 of a heart
attack.
Fucking mom walks in on my, soI walks in.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I'm like, so I um, but that's when alex was like
well, is your left arm numb?
And I was like no, but myfingertips are numb.
And that's when you were like,oh, it's indigestion probably.
Uh, you're like just give itlike 15 minutes and and see what
happens.
And uh, yeah, I mean, it's agood thing, it wasn't a heart
attack I didn't tell you todrink baking soda or apple cider
vinegar.
I think you might've said that,but I was like he was like no,
I'm going to do that.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, I was like it's a it's a quick way to know
Cause, if you have a indigestion, if you know the difference
between the two.
If you have heartburn, youcould take a teaspoon of baking
soda and water and it will coolit.
I mean, your burps are going tobe hot but it's going to stop
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burning.
If you have indigestion, take aglass of water with a
tablespoon of apple cidervinegar.
If you have really badheartburn, two tablespoons or
indigestion, rather, twotablespoons of apple cider
vinegar and a full glass ofwater.
So eight and two tablespoons.
Chug that down.
It will burn at first, butbelieve me, the relief you'll
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get afterwards will beremarkable yeah, that was an
intense pain, also heart attacks.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I've heard it's like your fucking arm like starts
hurting your jaw, your your leftarm.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Now, of course, if someone has that rare condition
where all of your organs areinverted, it would be your right
arm.
So if you know you have thatcondition, please be aware.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
That's crazy.
I didn't even know that was athing it is.
That's super interesting.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
So you know, please get regular physicals, get
checkups, go to your doctor.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Don't be like me but it's not.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
It's not because your doctor is a cure-all.
Uh, you need to establish arapport with a doctor that you
can talk to, that you tell themwhat's going on, because it is a
practice.
They don't know you, you knowyou what's normal what is?
Speaker 1 (45:47):
that's also the thing .
Like there, there are certainconsistencies amongst all bodies
, but everybody's body reactsdifferently to everything, so
it's hard to say like y'all everget that fucking random sharp
ass pain right in the center ofyour fucking chest.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
It feels like you're about to die well, always I, I
get it, I've gotten it everyonce in a while, I'll just be
like oh you know I mean I've got.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
I've gotten that because I I wear contacts that
are night and day wear, so Isleep in them.
And I've gotten that because Iwear contacts that are night and
day wear, so I sleep in them,and I've gotten that kind of
headache right in the middle ofthe night when clearly my eyes
aren't getting enough oxygen,and it just pierces my temple
and I'm like, oh God, I'll getup nauseous and I'll yank my
contacts out.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I get altitude sickness now.
I never got it.
I've been flying since I wassix.
Never got it until the summerof 2020.
I I don't know what it is now,but um, flying sucks for me now
I don't get car sick, I don'tget, I, I get seasick a little
bit, but somebody else wasdriving.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I get car sick.
I don't get car sick oh, Iheard a lot.
I hear a lot of people say thatit's just because when you're
operating a motor vehicle, it'skind of like an extension of
yourself, so you kind of knowwhat it's doing.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
You feel it, you feel everything.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, if you're with somebody and you're in the
passenger seat.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
You're expecting to feel what you're feeling.
Yep, that's the difference.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
It's kind of like it's a part of you and you're
like you know if I'm turningright.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
My body's preparing to turn right.
I already know that I'm turningright.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
My body's told me 15 seconds before I'm gonna turn
right you drive with somebodywho you know doesn't know how to
stop slower at fuckingintersections you ever drive
with a motherfucker who, like,waits to the last moment to
press the brake.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yes, I know, I, literally I have someone in mind
.
You're fucking like waits tothe last moment to press the
brake.
Yes, I know, I, literally Ihave someone gonna press the
brake yourself.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
You're fucking like where's the fucking?
My cousin elijah, oh no, oh mygod, he sucks.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
I I love him to death .
He fucking sucks with that hiswife will agree, because we've
but we've talked about this.
Her and I have talked that hefucking waits till the last
second to break.
Every time, and every time I'msitting in his passenger seat,
I'm fucking slamming fake brakesevery time I always say that's
someone who trusts their brakesway too much yeah, I'm like the
day your brakes aren't quite asgood as you remember them being.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
You're gonna fucking slam this dude in the back, you
get a fucking leak in your brakeline.
There's a slightly lesspressure.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
You're cooked so I I break so much and I break so
early because I'm like, if mybrakes start to fail, I want to
know right away so I can swerve.
Yeah, uh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
So the thing that I'll tell you on the opposite
side is me when I am sittingpassenger or backseat.
This is the backseat is whatreally trips people out backseat
makes me say I could sit in theback, read a book.
Nope, I could.
I.
I don't need to look around, Idon't.
And I've had.
I've been told by so manypeople.
How do you do that?
Now I just tell people ironstomach, dude, and I really do.
(48:42):
I really do have an ironstomach.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I get heartburn and, uh, I suffer heartburn all the
time, but it's that's the mostyeah, I mean, I rarely get sick
not to eat, so I don't fuckingget heartburn, but I do.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
No, I get heartburn from everything, bro.
I get heartburn from water.
Yeah, yeah, I don't have any ofthat, somebody but.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I can't read in a car .
So I got two things.
Somebody who I hate fuckingbeing in the car with is my
stepfather, because he keeps hishand at the top of the wheel
just one.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
so if he goes over a bump it just kind of moves with
it so after you hit, you justfucking wobble like that yeah
I've done um I today in one ofthe work vans, one of the big
work vans, there was a part ofthe road that was real fucked up
and when I hit it the whole vanjust went and I was like, yeah,
(49:36):
it's fine and I drive a uh Idrive a lincoln town car, so one
of those big beefy cars it'snot gonna pull me off the road I
drive exactly like that tj.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
I mean, the car is super smooth, so like hitting
potholes or anything like that.
It it doesn't make me swervelike that, at least I don't
think I don't have passengerswith me that often but I don't
think.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
And then josh said weird fact did you know ketchup
was actually invented to cureindigestion?
Speaker 3 (50:06):
that's interesting I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Can we fact check that, pull that up?
Speaker 3 (50:10):
all right, let's check, let's check.
Uh, jamie, pull that up, jamiepull that up.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
oh wow, fact, check that.
Pull that up.
All right, let's check.
Let's check, jamie, pull thatup.
Jamie pull that up.
Oh wow, that's ketchup beingshoved into a bottle with
blueberries.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
That's interesting, jamie can you pull up a picture
of a puffin doing a backflipinto a vat of spaghetti?
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yes, ketchup was once marketed as a cure for
indigestion.
In the 1830s, an ohio physiciannamed dr john cook bennett
promoted tomato-based ketchup asa medicinal tonic.
He claimed it could treatailments like indigestion,
diarrhea, even jaundice.
He even sold it in the form oftomato pills and cornflakes, of
(50:46):
course, stop people frommasturbating of course, modern
medicine eventually debunkedthese claims, and ketchup
transitioned from a supposedremedy to the beloved condiment
we know today.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Cornflakes are the stuff, eww.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Okay, this makes me mad.
I wonder if anybody else hasthis visceral reaction.
Quite the journey for a humblesauce, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Sauce.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Do you think ketchup is a sauce?
I mean, that bothers me, thatreally gives me a visceral
reaction.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
It's more of an aioli , it's a puree, you know yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
I wouldn't call it a sauce, an aioli, it's a puree,
because like at McDonald's, ifthey ask you what sauce you want
.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
If you say ketchup, I feel like they're going to be
like what?
Speaker 3 (51:29):
You know, but that makes me mad, that you just said
that.
But if you add ketchup to, ifyou add ketchup to molasses and
brown sugar, you have barbecuesauce.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, so that makes it a sauce, but it's still a
condiment.
It's still a condiment, isn'tit like ketchup mustard and some
other shit to make fry sauce?
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, I don't think ketchup on its own is a sauce.
It's a condiment.
It's still a condiment.
I wouldn't call mustard a sauce.
Yeah, I wouldn't call mayo asauce.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
So like oh mayo.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
They're condiments.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Imagining mayo as a sauce just doesn't sound right.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Mayo as a sauce that just sounds so wrong.
I like mayo, but as a sauce Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Imagine you go to the cookout of a white family and
say, yeah, I'm about to throwthese ribs into the smoker, rub
some mayo on it 12 hours ago,let it sit, it's just fucking
just spacey white ribs.
Oh, that'll give you a littlekick in your mouth.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Oh, I put some salt on there, can you taste it?
Speaker 3 (52:28):
You know, if you like ribs and you ever make it down
here, I will smoke you my famousribs.
It's a dry rub and they're longsmoked.
So five hour, maybe six hourcook time.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Low heat, low and slow.
I prefer wet rub.
You are a good old wet rub.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
No, no, try it first Dry rub if you're struggling.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
I've tried a dry rub, but I also prefer a wet rub.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, the friction of the dry rub really.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
You don't wet.
Rub the ribs, guys.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
I just feel like I'm starting to fire.
I was not.
I don't think we were talkingabout ribs.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Guys.
Final comment on the Conjuring3, if I may host Sure, I think
in again.
This applies to all survival,which is facing fears.
If you're faced with somethingthat you are absolutely afraid
of, but you are also facing yourmortality, I think the option
(53:22):
of tucking tail and run is kindof taken away from you.
You have to face it.
For instance, I mean, we'vetalked about this I think the
worst case scenario is you'reconfronted with a grizzly bear.
Bottom line is you know youcan't run from it.
Right, you know you can't climbit, you can't out-climb it, you
can't out-jump it, you can'tout-swim it, you can't out-run
it.
(53:42):
We've got to do something withit.
So we try to do the sensiblething.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
You've got.
We try to do the sensible thingand research the proper
techniques.
What to do if you're confrontedwith a bear?
Speaker 3 (53:56):
before you go out there.
Exactly, it doesn't prefer adry rub or a wet rub.
Probably a wet rub.
You don't want to make it mad.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
So what you do is you run up to the bear, you jump on
it, you give it all you wrapyour legs around its neck, you
twist and jerk, you kind of do aserpentine motion while you're
wiggling right, you pop its neck.
It's back really hurts becauseit hasn't slept on an actual
mattress right.
So once it back cracks.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
Then it's going to thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
It'll stand up and be like thank you, sir, Walk away.
It'll give you $40.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
Will it say thank you , sir, in a British accent?
Speaker 2 (54:30):
It's like an Ed Edd n' Eddy when say thank you, so
in a british accent it's like aned, ed and eddie.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
When uh, ed, ed and eddie, oh my god, didn't uh have
a rock in his shoe and he ate awhole fucking slide.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
We are not that young that's a 90s thing though,
isn't it fuck?
Speaker 2 (54:42):
ed and eddie ed literally had a rock in his shoe
and it made him go so ballisticthat he ate a slide, a couch, a
whole.
I think he ate a house.
I don't.
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (54:53):
The motherfucker was just tweaking but I still think
it's a 90s thing it's not.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
I've watched rugrats too, and I've seen rocco's
modern life and I've fuckingwell it might be a 90s thing,
but hey, arnold every time likefor for people our age tj.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
Everybody acts like the 90s were like 50 years
before us and that we're likewatching these ancient shit.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
I'm like dude, we grew up when this shit was still
around 2005 january 4th 199990s, part two.
It was literally like the sameshit I had january 4th 1999 yeah
, we had a vcr too I had a cdplayer up until fucking middle
school I used to have one ofthese tiny little MP3 players.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
With like three buttons on it Yep and a
headphone jack and it was one ofmy favorite things ever.
There's still certain songsthat I hear to this day.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
That remind you of it .
Speaker 1 (55:42):
That when I hear it, I'm expecting the next song to
play, and I know exactly whatsong it should be Okay.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
That's funny that you said that.
I have that exact same reactionfrom the cd, the actual cd.
When I play this cd it has ummodest mouse um float on float
on the very next song.
I'm expecting it to be um.
Is it electric eel?
Is that what it's called?
Electric eel, electric?
(56:09):
No, that's not right.
I always confuse the name ofthe song.
It's the.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
But I know exactly what you mean.
My brain has been conditionedthat after that song, this is
what the next note is, because Ilistened to it in that order.
There was no shuffle on thatlittle MP3 player.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yep, so I would listen to those songs in the
same order over and over andover Electric Feel.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Electric Feel.
Listen to those songs in thesame order over and over and
over electric feel, electricfeel, mgmt.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
So my, my brain got so conditioned that, well,
that's what the next song issupposed to be.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, I didn't have an mp3 player, I got an ipod, I
think.
Sixth, grade or seventh grade Ihad an ipod nano, sixth
generation.
It was a square but it had atouch screen on it.
Uh, that shit was heat.
Um, I had, but yeah, I had a cdplayer up until like fucking
hell, I had a goddamn walk manit was kind of crazy now it said
(57:01):
that's beyond our years.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
We never had a walk.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
And then once I got a , uh, first like touch screen
that's beyond us I've had flipphones, I had a sidekick, I had
shit like that um, but once Ihad my first touch screen phone.
I remember getting all my musicfrom one of those fucking uh
ring tone apps, but it wouldhave literally the entire
fucking song on it, so you couldjust download the whole mp3.
(57:26):
So I had like a list like yeah,I'm just gonna use okay, so
wait real quick.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Do you guys remember limewire?
Yeah, I know that was yourthing, right, okay, but I know
what I never really used, so Ihad like a list.
Yeah, I'm just going to use apart of it, okay, so wait Real
quick.
Do you guys remember LimeWire?
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Yeah, I know LimeWire , that was your thing right, I
never used it, Okay, but I knowwhat it is.
I never really used it either,but I know Uncle Gil used it all
the time.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (57:42):
There's another one.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
It's like Frost something.
You guys off I and mostly youeric, because I think, uh, tj,
you're older, right?
Speaker 2 (57:54):
I am turning 25 and two months, so you guys are both
in that.
Speaker 3 (57:58):
In that group that would be called a uh, a zennial
a zillennial.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
A zillennial, is that what?
Speaker 3 (58:03):
it is a zennial because, like we're, not the.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
I was alive when the towers fell I was too I remember
my horrified one year old brainby less than a month.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
They hit the fucking pentagon mom.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
They hit the pentagon as my one year old self.
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
I was literally two weeks old.
I actually wasn't sentientuntil I was three, so that was
like a really miraculous momentwhen you said that, yeah it was
crazy, like I was full English.
Those were your first words.
Yeah, they hit the fuckingpentagon, they hit the fucking
Pentagon.
They hit the goddamn Pentagon.
Say mama, say mama.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
They hit the fucking Pentagon.
What happened to the guy whomade the first water-powered car
?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
Say da-da-da, it was an inside job.
Steel can't melt.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
Damn.
Where did the debt go?
We still got to do that episode, guys.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
A 9-11 episode.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Yeah, a conspiracy theory episode.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
Will you survive 9-11 ?
We'll find out next time on.
Will you Survive the Podcast?
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Well, that's a simple math, where we strap ourselves
into a well that's a simple,where we strap ourselves into a
that's a simple math.
How many people were in thebuilding?
How many people died?
Welcome?
Speaker 2 (59:18):
back to impractical jokers.
Mer has to be in this building,oh my god.
Speaker 1 (59:27):
That is the type of fucking pray.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
That's the type of punishment they would always do
to mer damn, I know, I rememberthat guy saying uh, in one of
the last ones he says somethinglike uh, that is the type of
fucking punishment they wouldalways do to Murr Damn.
I know.
I remember that guy saying inone of the last ones he says
something like why has it alwaysgot to be me?
He?
Was so mad.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
They're like for Murr's punishment he's got to
swim in these shark infestedwaters while we chum the waters
with no shark cage.
All right, go on Murr Yep, andyou're like shit murr had to sit
there when they had the.
Speaker 3 (59:52):
Oh no, no, no, I'm mixing it up.
That one was jackass where, uh,they had one of the guys
sitting on the sitting on thestool and they let a grizzly
bear in and eat the fish out ofhis belt oh yeah, I I hate.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Every time I watch them I'm just like this is the
worst shit you could possibly do.
Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Like this is I, I will admit it's not even
entertaining to me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
It's not even funny.
It's just like what the fuckare you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
I will admit there are.
Uh, the reason why I don't likeit is I laugh far less times
than I'm just like oh, exactlylike impractical jokers.
I laugh the entire, everysingle time yeah, the family.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I clip where they're like want to do jackass shit and
they're like he's like my nameis peter and this is roof, roof
shopping cart all right go andhe fucking flies off the roof,
breaks his neck and he's like oh, oh, oh, is it bad, is it bad?
They're all freaking out.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Was that the same guy whojumped off the table onto the
microwave?
He was like this is microwavewrestling.
Don't try this at home.
And he jumps off and themicrowave barely gives at all as
he falls completely on it Justhis back.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
He's like ah, no, the one that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
I did think was funny was when they took golf carts
and they just fucking sent themand they fucked themselves up
with.
Took golf carts and they justfucking sent them and they just
they fucked themselves up withthose golf carts.
That was funny, because that'ssome shit.
I would actually.
Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
There's the one uh clip from it where johnny knox
fills on a big ass rocket fullof smaller rockets on the inside
to try to propel himself andone of them shoots like two
inches, like out of, like theside of it, like next to him.
He could have been, he couldhave been impaled bro.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
So there was something else that was like a
side side project.
Nobody, nobody big involved init.
We're not a side project.
That's not the right thing tosay.
It's like uh, adjacent toimpractical jokers.
Uh, where it was?
You know those big balls thatyou can ride in like you can run
, oh, yeah, the hamster balls,the hamster balls and they had
taken this guy on the top of atall like a steamboat and threw
(01:02:00):
him off.
They launched him off of it intothe water.
Oh my god, it was only funnybecause, like you see the guy
flying in here there's nothingyou can do.
This is going to hurt twice,dude.
I don't know why.
I thought, hey, it might workuntil the ball hit.
(01:02:21):
Then he hits the bottom of theball.
I was like that had to be justas hard as concrete.
Right there there was nopadding, oh God.
Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Every time I see those hamster balls.
I can't remember who got hit,but it makes me think of
unisonis and if you know, youknow.
But there was an episode wheremark and ethan were running at
each other in those balls and Ican't remember who jumped.
I think it was, I think it wasethan jumped and kicked mark
straight in the balls eithermark or or ethan.
(01:02:56):
But it was just.
It was just fucking perfect theway it happened and oh, it was
so funny.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Is comedy all right.
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
well, we kind of went off topic there, but I'm not
gonna lie.
We talked about most thingsabout this movie we've talked
about in the previous two movies.
Yeah, when it comes to likereligion and faith and dealing
with demons, and this was- Itried to keep it survival
related.
Yeah, I mean this one'sinteresting Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Facing fears.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah, the it was actually like.
At one of the first parts inthe movie, the dude who
eventually becomes possessed istalking to the little boy who is
possessed and he's like youknow, you're really brave and
he's like I don't feel brave.
But he's like oh, you know,just because you know, just
because you're scared doesn'tmean you're not brave you can
still be scared and be braveyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, being
(01:03:46):
brave.
Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
I just wanted to bring that point up continue
what you were saying, eric.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
I like that point because that's something that I
think people at least me.
I don't know if everyone does,but I think there's times where
we tend to going to the Bible.
We tend to venerate the peoplethat are in the Bible and forget
how human they were, that theywere just humans.
That just because they didthese great things in the name
(01:04:16):
of god and they did them for god, doesn't mean that they weren't
.
You know, they didn't have thehuman emotion behind it, like
being scared.
It doesn't mean that you're notscared.
It just means that you havetrust in god that he's going to
take care of it.
That doesn't necessarily meanthat the human, the adrenaline,
the human fear isn't going to bethere.
It just means that you're notgoing to let that overtake you
(01:04:38):
no exactly and like that's themain thing is that that's
something I actually is somerandom thing.
I I heard from uh, one of mymom's boyfriends, uh, a long
time ago he was allergic towasps but he had like three
acres of land and there was agiant wasp nest and he had to
take care of it.
And I he was saying it to me inregards to spiders, which,
(01:05:00):
sorry, fuck you, I'm stillterrified of spiders and I still
won't fuck with them.
I don't like them.
But he was basically saying,like you, can't let your fears
stop you from doing what youhave to do, and I've gotten
better about that.
Hold on.
Nope, I've gotten better aboutthat.
We're like I won't let a spiderstop me from doing what I have
to do, like if it's in my way II have no problem just moving
(01:05:21):
past it, but it doesn't meanthat I'm not gonna sit there for
the rest of the day.
Just like, yeah, like I justhate that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeah he's just a little man on my car.
Oh, he's kind of cute I I dothink jumping spiders are cuter
than a normal spider still roughI don't love them, but he was
like the biggest one I've seen,because normally the ones in
washington they're like littlelike really small.
It was like the size of mythumb, like this he's so chunky
(01:05:53):
really quick before we end theepisode.
Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
I saw an instagram reel and it was about a jumping
spider.
It was scientists wanted to see,um, they basically wanted to
see what the a jumping spider'stracking looked like when it's
tracking uh prey, and what theydid, how they did.
It fucked up, but so funny.
They, I think they basicallyglued a magnet to the top of the
(01:06:18):
of the jumping spider's headand then they took a little
magnet pole and they grabbed thespider.
And so the spider's justsitting there hanging from this
magnet on its head like lookingfor something to grab, and they
put a tennis ball underneath itand it would grab the tennis
ball and then they'd put it infront of a screen and they'd
show it a stimulus and the thespider would typically turn its
(01:06:42):
body left and right to look atthe stimulus.
But because it couldn't,because it was held by the
magnet, it would twist the theball left and right, and so the
way that the ball was movingwould allow the scientist to
track how a spider or how ajumping spider was was tracking
its prey.
It was really interesting.
It was cool, but I thought thefunniest part was that they
(01:07:02):
glued a magnet to the top of thehead so can you imagine the
spider who is just a spider andthen gets this thing glued to
its head.
Is now hanging from this thingthat's attached to its head and
then given a ball and is juststaring at this thing that it
does not understand.
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Moving back and forth , they shed like little head
helmets, so eventually themagnet would fall off.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I'm sure the scientists were conscious about
it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Imagine yourself like tractor beamed up.
Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Could you imagine aliens doing that?
We would never stop talkingabout that if something happened
.
Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Mind you, I did see an article.
I am not testifying to thevalidity of this article.
There was an article that saida man in Texas was convicted and
sentenced to 20 years in prisonfor kidnapping people,
pretending that he was an alienand anal probing them.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
See, that honestly does not surprise me At the end
of the day, game is game Allright, that's wild.
You really got to respect youknow.
Like Another minus one pointfor you on that one.
Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
But I think that was reasonable prime.
You did the crime, you did thetime.
Lakers in five all right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Well, that was this episode.
Um, it really kind of went offthe rails right there at the end
.
Just, I should have stopped italways a second before and I
that's my bad, I'm sorry.
Uh, let's tally up the pointstj with minus one, minus one
minus one minus one minus one,uh.
Tj has one, two, three, four,five, six, seven, minus seven
(01:08:44):
points.
Alex has one, two, three, fourpoints, uh, so with minus seven
to four, I think our winner hereis alex.
Yay, good job, alex as a rewardwant to read the socials I'll
read the socials.
Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
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You can also search the boyswys and send us your emails.
(01:09:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
All right Winner speech.
Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
My winner speech is that I am grateful for this
opportunity.
I love talking about thesesurvival topics and this was a
little bit tougher, so I'mgrateful for this opportunity.
I love talking about thesesurvival topics and this was a
little bit tougher, so I'mgrateful for the win, because it
was tough to find survivaltechnique in a spiritual movie
like this, but working with thethree together made it a
(01:10:07):
possibility.
So I'm contemplating and Ithink I have the movie, so that,
uh, josh and any of ourlisteners can go follow along.
They want to watch the moviewith us.
Uh, I think what we shouldcover is um well, I gotta re
find my idea.
(01:10:28):
Sorry, give a, give your lure.
Loser speech TJ.
Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
If I shotgun this Mike's Hard Lemonade right
fucking now, within 10 seconds,can I get the win?
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
How much is left in it?
Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
It's full.
If I down this bitch in lessthan 10 seconds.
Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
I'm opening it right now.
Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I'll tell you what If Alex is willing to make that
deal, I will honor it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
You're going to go 10 seconds 15.
Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Give me 15 seconds.
It's carbonated.
You said 10.
It's carbonated.
Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
I was going to time this shit.
What is the ounces of thatbitch?
Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
How many ounces?
Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
12, 16.
Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
It's like the size of it's 16.
Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
It's a pint, pound a pint.
That's over an ounce a second.
Yeah, I'll make that deal.
Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
In 15 seconds, or 10?
15.
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Ready, hold on.
I got to turn my fan on.
I need the.
Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
It's hot as fuck in here.
Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
I don't think we've ever done this on WIS.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Audio immediately went trash on my shit, but it's
fine.
This is the end of the episodeready, so tell me when.
All right, three two, one godamn you might do it.
Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
He's gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Four, three, oh wow oh, what did I do, wow, oh well
you might not survive.
Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
That A deal is a deal .
If TJ is alive by the start ofthe next episode, TJ All right.
Well, sorry, Alex.
Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
That's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
You made that deal.
Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
That was water.
Oh, my eyes are watering.
Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Your winner speech has retroactively been turned
into a loser speech.
That's okay.
It doesn't make a turned into aloser speech.
Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
It doesn't make a lot of sense now, but that's okay.
The carbonation TJ.
Do you have the willpower to doa winner speech?
Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Thank you all for listening.
It's been a pleasure, oh shit.
Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Okay, just tell me this Was it worth it?
Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
He's like I don't even have a movie lined up.
Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
It was worth it.
Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Oh fuck.
Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
He's going to be so drunk too, because he just
downed it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Oh fuck.
Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I don't know, he's got a lot of body mass.
Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
he might be okay maybe, but he was already
drinking.
Oh, anyways, all right.
Well, with that, that was aninteresting end to the episode,
so next week look forward to tjhosting instead of alex.
Uh, and with that guys, I couldfeel it coming.
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
It's like a big ass bubble.
It's going to emerge like achest burster.
Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
I should have challenged you to down a 16
ouncer of Sprite.
Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Oh, without burping, yeah, and then eat a banana.
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
You eat a banana and then you chug Sprite.
Eat a banana, then you chug it.
Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Dude.
Oh my God, that projectilevomit's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I love that one.
Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
I'm fucking sweaty.
Oh my tummy.
Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Yeah, definitely don't eat a banana and then down
Sprite.
Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Yeah, stay alive.
Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Yeah, I guess you.
uh, minus one point for TJ.
Hello, survivors, and welcometo another episode of Will you
Survive, the Podcast.
I guess, I kind of forgot thewhole thing.
I almost said the podcast, butTJ for talking through it, minus
one point.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Alex, thank you for being quiet, plus one point.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
This is a podcast where we normally watch a movie.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Usually about zombies or survival of some sort, and
then we talk about said survivalthat we've talked about.
There are no zombies in thisone, minus one for talking again
Crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
This is a podcast Minus one point for talking.
Again, crazy.
Uh, this is a podcast minus onepoint for talking what the fuck
am I?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
gonna do pantomime to the goddamn audience you can
shut the fuck up while I'mtalking.
No, that's that.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
That was kind of the reason out with minus one point
immediately bitch, I'm gonna beoff the road this episode.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
We watched the Conjuring 3, the Devil Made Me
Do it, and I'm joined here by mytwo co-hosts who also watched
said movie.
Alex, that's me wow.
Nice introduction plus onepoint and TJ suck my big fat
black cock wow, that's bringingrace into it, minus one thank
(01:45):
you for the tiny dinies.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Josh, that's bringing race into it.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Minus one, thank you for the tiny dinies, josh,
that's two tiny dinies.
I think I've lost him, see.
What I don't think he'sremembering is that the last
episode we made a handshake dealand said handshake deal also
had to do with the outcome ofthis episode.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh.
And he lost that handshake deal.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, so this episode is a little predetermined well,
no, I could pull up the thingright now.
Me losing is not a part of thedeal yeah, I think it was no,
it's.
If he brings it up, then hedoesn't win the next episode.
It's not if he doesn't bring itup.
Tj loses the next episode.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Previously on Will you Survive the Podcast.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
I think he's going to go more religious or not more
religious, more survival on thisone.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Okay, if he does go religious, I win the next
episode you host.
Okay, handshake deal, okay,deal, okayshake deal, okay, deal
, okay, handshake deal 3, 2, 1Deal.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, but in order for him to not win this episode,
he has to win this episode, soWell it's either guaranteed or
it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's what the fucking thing was.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, we're seeing it play out right now, aren't we?
So the Conjuring 3?
Oh, yeah, also, oh, but Ialready introduced you guys,
never mind, um, yeah, yeah,during three dog shit movie.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Worst of the conjurings, that's my wow, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, that's fucking boring right away the little
start of it was great boring therest of the way really I don't
think I'd be quite that harsh onit, but I, I also won't lie, it
was not my favorite.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
No, I think Conjuring 2 was my favorite.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Really.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I think the first one set a great tone.
The second one like I don'tknow how to describe it it got
more like Hollywood than thesecond one.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
And then the third one was kind of just the same
thing as the second one.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
So for anybody who might be living under a rock who
hasn't seen this movie, youwant me to read them out.
The storyline Sure.
Do that A chilling story ofterror, murder and unknown evil
that shocked even experiencedreal life paranormal
investigators, ed and LorraineWarren.
One of the most sensationalcases from their files.
It starts with a fight for thesoul of a young boy, then takes
(04:03):
them beyond anything they'veever seen before to mark the
first time in US history that amurder suspect would claim
demonic possession as a defense.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Oh, wow, plus one, alex.
That was great.
Great reading, woo.
So this is actually based on atrue case.
If I know the details correctly, which I might not, he was
ultimately charged withmanslaughter right.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Right.
Convicted of manslaughter.
Convicted of manslaughter yeah,like the end of the movie says.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, so that's pretty good in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah To go from.
He got five years.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What were they charging him with?
Second degree murder?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, pretty good, they didn't try to give him the
death penalty pretty good to godown from that to, uh, to
manslaughter.
Now, from what I, from what I,I did some reading.
I didn't actually read theending, like the what happened.
I did some reading on my own,um, from what I was reading, he,
uh, there were reports thatwhen he killed the was it a
(05:02):
landlord.
Yeah, yeah, when he killed thewas it a landlord.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah, when he killed the landlord, they described him
as in a trance-like state and Ithink that really helped when
it came to claiming demonicpossession, that everyone was
like it didn't look like him.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It helped in the media.
The judge ultimately ruled thatit couldn't be used as a
defense because it can't bescientifically proven.
There's no expert who couldtake the stand and say, yes, he
was.
So he ended up um throwing outthe defense, but clearly it
still worked in the court ofpublic opinion.
Because I don't know, um Idon't know if the prosecutors
(05:39):
sought first degree manslaughterafter he tried the defense and
lost, or if that was just thethe route that uh, like they
tried the new wave of uhprosecution where they throw
everything at the wall and seewhat sticks.
So I don't know how it actuallywent down on the pleading
papers if they tried him formurder, first degree, second
(06:00):
degree, first degreemanslaughter, uh, involuntary
manslaughter, all all of thedifferent things.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Just see what what they can convict them of what?
What stuck?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
So I don't know if that's the case, but that's kind
of what it gives me the vibes,because the prosecution was
trying to go for everything, itseemed.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Any thoughts on that TJ.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I mean, I did a little bit of reading on this
case and it's, I feel, like Icould have just went for the
insanity plea if he was in atrance light state.
You know, I think so.
I instead of you know the devilmade me do it, which is the
kind of headline of this.
Um, also shout out to uh arnjohnson he's still alive.
He's the same age as uh alex 57damn.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
No, I'm not.
5700, yeah, 750, oh yeah 750.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh, dicks, a timeless game.
Rest in peace to his baby girl,because she died.
They were together until 2021.
She passed away.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh, his girlfriend, yeah, his shoddy Okay.
When you said that I thoughtyou meant his daughter.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I don't know.
I think he has a daughter.
Let's look it up.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
You said his baby girl, yeah, baby girl.
So I looked it up while youguys were talking and, yes, the
prosecution did charge him withmurder, but they were only able
to convict him of first degreemanslaughter.
So it did work in the court ofpublic opinion getting him, uh,
getting him sympathy with thejurors, and I think it did help
in ways to get his story outthere that he wasn't aware of
what was going on and it alsodidn't, um, didn't hurt that him
and, uh, his landlord, whichwas, um, actually alan bono, I
(07:29):
think, was his real name.
It was a different name um they,they were actually friends.
It described them as being veryclose so it was really shocking
and disturbing, absolutelykilled him because, like
everything that you saw in themovie which anybody who didn't
see the movie it had some reallycreepy undertones, like the
landlord was being overly grabbyon Arnie Johnson's fiance,
(07:54):
debbie, and that's kind of howthey were playing it out, but in
reality it was that's how theyalways were.
They were always very goofygoofy together.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
They were always clowning around and so it was
very weird for him to respondthe way he did even in the in
the movie it wasn't necessarilywhat the guy was doing because
the guy was drunk, he was drunkoff of his ass.
But when arnie was losing hismind and was like going when he
(08:27):
was being haunted for that firsttime and going crazy, um, his
girlfriend was like dancing withthe landlord.
Like she wasn't like oh my god,get off me at first because she
was like annoyed at first, butthen she's like oh my god, that.
It was kind of like that, likeoh my God, my drunk uncle, kind
of vibe Exactly.
Like oh my God, this guy, he'sfunny.
Like he's funny, he's just, hehad too much, he doesn't mean
(08:50):
any harm.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
What do you think of this?
Because I kind of thought inthe while I was watching it you
just gave a differentperspective, which is very
viable.
What about?
Arnie is seeing it in the waythat he's being annoying and
grabby and but reality was shewas fine with it, like, not even
like.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh god my but she was just like, oh my god, it was,
was that he was seeing like thecompany, because they showed us
a couple things they shouldright.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
They showed us a couple of times where, even when
ed saw something that wasn'twas it ed?
I'm sorry, it might have beenlorraine.
Um, they saw something thatwasn't real.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
It was somebody else yeah, like lorraine was stabbing
somebody in the wood.
Oh, yeah it wasn't actuallyhappening.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
And then that, but wasn't, didn't she almost attack
ed, like she thought ed was the, the demon?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
in the house.
Yeah, yeah, no, I think healmost attacked her.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
He almost did, and it was her.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, was that at the end?
When he's smashing with thefreaking hammer.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Not yet.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Not yet when they possessed Right before that,
when he found the totem in hishouse in the flower pot.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right before then.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It was the big fucker , yes, from the morgue before
then it was the the big, the bigfucker, yes, that was chasing
him, yeah, chasing him.
And then he went to kill it andright before he did, um, it was
lorraine, and then he likesnapped out of it.
And that's when he knew like ohno, she has something here yeah
, she, she got me good.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Good yeah, I.
Uh, that's what I was reallylike.
Witchcraft freaks me out.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I like witchcraft shit, and I don't blame me um
how much do you know about it?
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I just thought of another movie that I would want
to watch on here.
How much do I know about what?
Witchcraft project, yeah,witchcraft in general yeah I
mean I know, you know some stuffhere and there.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
I know a lot of stuff from like movies and some stuff
from like other research, likeso I want to be clear when we
talk about witchcraft, I meanactual witchcraft, not these
fucking california girls who arelike I have a book that's life
in wicca or life in wicca, andit's not that witchcraft yeah
the real shit, the evil shitwell, you know it's kind of
(10:59):
similar to like voodoo and shit.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know it's like a lot of just like you know you
don't like somebody, you cursethem or you know you you do a
spell to whatever the fuck youknow and you'll like fill a jar
with fucking eye of newt andshit you know which.
Like all of those uh, all ofthose like ingredients are like
actual things.
They're not like a literal eyeof newt, like it's something
(11:22):
else, like a plant or somethinglike I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean right Um.
What do you know aboutwitchcraft?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Most of my knowledge comes from books, uh, books on
the occult.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Mustard seed.
Mustard seed is big, is eye ofnewt.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
And um so I?
I don't know anything about,about what we today call
witchcraft.
I know more of literature basedupon the.
Shall we call it the entity?
It would be like the church ofwitchcraft, the occult um it's a
lot of satan worship.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's a lot of yeah, I know about like the rituals
right and shit.
I listened to a lot of podcastson those.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I was pretty fascinated by the sal witch
trials.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I remember one time I'm a little devastated to know
that they were wrong more thanever.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, yeah, you know, your wife is being a fucking
asshole Witch.
Well, there was something else.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
There was something else that really just blew my
mind.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It was a lot of fear.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Connect two dots that I never thought of.
A lot of women who were chargedwith being witches were maidens
or matrons.
They were single.
A lot of women who were chargedwith being witches were maidens
or matrons.
They were single.
A lot of maidens who weresingle had cats.
Cats do wonders at eliminatingrodents.
Many of the women who survivedthe plagues did were accused of
being witches because they werenever stricken with ill like
(12:41):
everybody else and it was just asimple fact that the freaking
cats killed the rats and keptthem away from their own that's
like some civilizations and likeum, you know, like there'll be
a civilization who will like,did they?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
they wash their hands like, like let's say yeah they
wash their hands and like shitlike that, you know, for like
religious purposes, like in.
You know, I can't think of theword, I'm slightly intoxicated,
but um, they do that rightmeanwhile, all these nasty ass.
You know other people who don'tdo like you know, they don't
wash their hands and do all thatshit.
So it's like they get sick andit's like, oh, the people who
(13:17):
are washing their hands and shitdon't.
And they're like, oh, it'sbecause they're fucking evil.
You know, I'm saying I've I've.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
There's a lot of things in the Bible that I've
realized I think I might havetalked about this on the podcast
where there's some things inthe Bible where it's like, oh,
these people were just likesomething not quite this exact
thing, but something along thoselines where it's like Jesus
says to do this what seems likekind of like an odd thing to say
, to do, but then, knowingmodern science, you're like,
(13:47):
yeah, obviously, wash your hands.
That makes fucking sense.
Like things like that.
Where you're like, oh, nowonder they saw it as as like
this, because at the time it was, but they would see it as like
this uh kind of marvelous thing,like, oh, wow, how did he, how
did he know that it's keeping ussafe?
Or I feel like I'm not gettingmy point across very well here.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Well, simplistic things.
You're very similar to what TJis saying, if I'm understanding
you right, like come inside,take off your unlatch your
sandals, wash your feet.
And it's like wow, you knowthese are marvelous things.
Well yeah, except for you knowyou're outside traipsing around,
you're stepping in poop,literally.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
You, you're stepping in poop, literally.
You come back in your home.
What's the smartest thing to do?
Kick your shoes off, wash yourfeet and then walk around.
Yeah, you know, we are likewhen, when, um god, I forget who
it was, but basically I thinkmaybe it was daniel I, I can't
remember but basically god tellsthem, um, eat some bread and
take a nap.
And and they do, and then theyfelt better and you're like wow,
it's biblical.
If you're feeling, take a napand eat some food.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You'll be fine, crazy .
So what you're telling me isI'm spitting scripture every
time Madison tells me she's aheadache.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, every time you're like, have you drank
water?
Have you drank water, that'sbiblical.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
It's on Bible.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Taking a nap.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
So one of the things I could bring up regarding this
particular movie that does haveto do with survival outside of
just the spiritual realm is wesee this in all three of these
movies.
So I put this together based onall three of the movies.
It's teamwork and trust andthat would work in any survival
situation that you're stuck withsomebody.
I mean it works out very wellthat they're husband and wife,
(15:21):
but let's face it, even husbandsand wives don't communicate as
well as this couple did Likethey.
They worked it out a little, alittle too well.
That might be the mostHollywood thing about this, this
film.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well, you know, I actually find that more
believable because, like thefirst movie, one of my beefs was
that it felt like they weren'ttelling each other what they
needed to, like Lorraine wouldwould constantly not tell him
things that she saw, and I'mlike I feel like that's
something you should share withthe guy you're investigating
with.
That just seems like someimportant details.
And I noticed the same thing inthe second movie, this one.
(15:52):
It did seem like they were real, uh, real connected, just
everything they that they saw orheard together.
And you know why?
I think it's because a lot morehappened to ed, yeah, then to
lorraine, and he would tell herwhen, when things were were
happening, or I guess thingswere more vivid this time.
Like in the first movie, itwasn't.
Lorraine got like she felt likethree stories down, she got
(16:15):
hurt, but she wasn't likepossessed and and doing the
actions yeah of the past.
Oh, yeah, yeah, so this was alot more physical and she
couldn't just be like, oh, itwas nothing, I don't want to
talk about it, because hewatched her do it yep, no,
that's, that's good what about,um, I guess.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I guess we would say uh, I want to play devil's
advocate just a little bit onthat point, which is I
understand and I actually agreewith you.
But what if her mentality wassaying don't tell him lest you
make it come true?
It's kind of like think of backto the future, think of back to
the future you can't know youcan't know the future because if
you know the future, you'regoing to alter the outcome.
(16:54):
So I can't tell you what happens, right, which destroys the
whole premise for part two andpart three.
But you know, nonetheless it's,it's fun, but the idea behind
it remains the same is I can'ttell you the future because if I
tell you it won't happen.
Doctor Strange with Iron man inMarvel, it's always a common
premise amongst time travel orseeing in the future.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
That's a good point, doctor Strange to say.
If I tell you, what happens, itwon't.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
So I don't know if that's her mentality, and I
actually agree with you on this,but I think, like you're,
you're going through this forthe first time.
You don't have a user's manualon your gift and maybe she's
thinking dude, if I tell youwhat I saw, I'm either gonna
make it happen or like what if Imake it happen by telling you
what happens, yeah, but to mewhen I, but when it comes to a
religious, standpoint no, no,but when it comes to oh when it
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comes to a religious standpoint.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
My thought would be that that seems like confusion,
and god's not the author ofconfusion in my mind.
If you're dealing withsomething like this, you just
need to be united and share allthat info.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Just be a completely united front, uh, against this
enemy, because its whole thingis going to be to try and and
make you feel isolated andseparate you yep, no, I
completely agree with that so,um, I I have been over here
having thoughts, just randomthoughts that I need to bring
out to the universe uh, so ifyou're, if your survival
shelter's in the woods, right,yep, you know, apocalyptic
situation.
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Uh, you want to ward off people?
I'm, I'm saying, wow, you know,I would do.
I was just get like a scavengeanimal jaws and shit and just
make the witchiest looking shit,just just that I can just hang
them from trees and shit and therational motherfuckers would
turn away or even thesuperstitious ones, that was my
first, rational, yeah, yeah,yeah, rational and superstitious
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, they're gone that was my firstthought.
My second thought is where'sthis bitch getting all the jaws
from to make her?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
shit, right, right um .
I think they were goat, but I,I, I don't know for sure I
couldn't, I couldn't tell um.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And then third thought, which was related to
the back to the future thing.
I like the time travel betterin like marvel than I do in back
to the future.
I like the fact that it splitsoff into another timelines
instead of fucking I like thatshit.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
How dare you?
Who's to say that Back to theFuture doesn't?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Well, it's like.
Well, they talked about it, forsure, they did split a timeline
and he actually went back intime to a different timeline.
When he went back in part two,he went back to 1985.
It was completely different.
His dad was dead.
Biff was in charge of the wholecity, he owned the whole town,
basically and he lived withlorraine in a high-rise casino
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in the penthouse suite.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
See, it was related because there's a motherfucker
named lorraine in black.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
To the future, I know , right brought it, brought it
full circle confirm these twomovies in the same universe so
uh, next thing I could bring upif we're done.
If we're done with that point,yo, wouldn't that be a crazy,
like you know, fucking in thefuture.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
We invent time travel , and then there's a case like,
hey, I had to kill themotherfucker Because if I didn't
, the future is going to befucked up.
Do you think that would slide?
I feel like you know?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, I think you'd have to have some real solid
proof.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Wasn't that that was in deadpool, wasn't it?
I think that was in deadpool.
He went back and he saw adolfhitler as a baby and he was like
, oh god, why is this?
Speaker 1 (20:12):
so hard?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
oh wait, I do remember that, yeah I thought
you were talking about how cablewent back in uh to in time to
kill russell yeah, that's what Ithought he was talking about at
first, but I forgot about thatscene.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh yeah, no, I wasn't that like an ending credit
scene, like it was like flashingthrough a bunch.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I think so I'm not stole his.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I don't remember yeah he took the, the little watch,
or whatever yeah, that's why hisgirl's alive in the the third
one, because it is canonalternate universe I mean it is
now.
They're in the marvel, likemean.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
I mean anyways anyway , that's true, the devil made me
do it okay, so another likestrategic, another strategic
Bible.
Was that me?
Yeah what the hell?
How hold on, let me.
Oh, that's why, because itwouldn't let me change that what
happened.
My phone went off and Icouldn't figure out how I had to
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actually rookie, rookie, rookie.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
My shit's, my shit's off minus one point tj so is it
just?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
every time I insult him alex your beard's stupid.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Wow, that's what it was.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I just felt like doing it, oh alex, you look like
an expired milk day.
You know how it gets the layerwhite around it so it kind of
dulls the color.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I'll be specific Expired.
Milk Duds.
Alex, I'll give you plus one.
That's also a good band namethe Expired Milk Duds.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Expired Milk Duds.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
There's a band called I think it's called the Chats
Just a group of Australian dudeswho make like their entire
album sounds like music thatwould be on Skate 3.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I listen to a band called Divorce Culture.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, you know that one song FM, I think it's by
them.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I really like that song and it's actually really
good.
I got I gotta listen to music.
Dude, you think I'm notcultured.
I'm cultured, okay.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
So go on, alex so there's another element of
survival that can be brought outof these films, and I think we
might have mentioned this before, but it's important in all
survival situations stay calmunder pressure.
I thought you're gonna say stayalive don't let yourself panic
you gotta keep breathing youknow it's letting yourself
hyperventilate is like one ofthe the worst things you could
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do when you're in a highpressure situation yeah so you
gotta make sure you stay calm,keep breathing deep breaths and,
uh, keep your faculties aboutyou.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of that's a good one in all
situations, yeah, even worksituations.
There's just I work in a pretty, I would say, a pretty high
stress environment most of thetime Maybe not most of the time,
but a good chunk of time.
There there's just a lot thatcould go wrong at any moment and
there's, you know, we could doas much as we can to minimize
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those risks, but they're alwaysthere.
Um, so yeah, I mean there'snothing good comes out of
panicking, absolutely nothing.
It's way better to just be calmand it's, you know, easier said
than done.
But I don't know, there's apiece that comes with it when
you're like it'll work out Ijust gotta easier to deal with
adrenaline when you're panickingthan when you're calm.
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You ever been full of adrenalinebut you're calm oh yeah, you're
like fucking you can feel yourheart beating and your like
hands are shaking it almostmakes me feel crazy because I'm
like, I feel like my I'm I'mmaking my body react in a
non-natural way, like my bodywants to go a million miles a
minute.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Just calm down, bro, you're tweaking.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
But it's crazy because I'm like sometimes I
feel like that's just me on thenormal, you know, like my
brain's going a million miles aminute and I'm trying to keep my
body from not doing that, sosometimes it doesn't feel too
different.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
So I get a different kind of feeling and one of my
favorite memories of childhoodcomes from playing roller hockey
and we had this other group ofkids who this was not organized
in any way, shape or form, thisother group of kids who played
on a team.
They saw us playing and theywere, you know, talking shit
because we were a ragtag bunch.
It was like it was Mighty Ducksbefore Mighty Ducks came out
and we were just.
We were just kids with no pads,no, nothing.
Some of us were on rollerblades, some of us weren't, we were
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just doing what we did and theywanted to play against us and,
uh, I mean, we whipped their ass.
But the funny part came when,just like you're talking about
high pressure, you know we can'tlet them win, right, you can't
be walking around getting talkedshit on about these, these
fucking punks.
And I got my opportunity.
They came down hard on a uh, ona breakaway.
I'm the goaltender, shot thepuck and, just like you guys are
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talking, I knew it wasadrenaline, my heart was racing
but I was breathing, I wasconcentrating and I saw myself,
before I did it, catch that puckand I sure as fuck did like it
was.
I saw it happen before ithappened.
So when I hear people say,visualize it, right, right,
visualize it happening, pictureyourself doing it.
I understand that.
You know they tell baseballplayers that Picture yourself
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hitting the ball, pictureyourself catching the ball.
I understand that completely.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's like I had to read this stupid fucking book in
high school.
I think it was either highschool or early college.
I hated this book.
I thought it was so stupid.
I still think it's stupid, butit stuck with me for a while,
which makes me hate it more andit was called like, um, like
superheroes, or like becoming asuperhero, or unlocking your
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superhero, something like that.
It was basically a book aboutflow states and a very
scientific thing.
It's basically just adrenalinethat's controlled, and but they
talked about it in this book as,like they talked about in this
very fantastical, like superherotype of way.
They would talk about like, uh,the skater who jumped the great
wall of china, yep, and thesurfer who rode the highest wave
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, recorded on on on record, likethings like that.
Um, and they would make it likethis super fantastical, like
magic type thing and it's likethey just had a shit ton of
adrenaline and they'reprofessionals, they know what
they're doing, yep, I mean that.
That's really what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I don't think I can get cracked up on adrenaline and
be like I'm gonna ride thisfucking wave now I feel like
that's, I think it's, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I mean yeah, if you don't know what you're doing,
just shoots up some adrenaline,I'm gonna do a fucking kickflip
over this ball of fire.
Yeah, they make it sound likeit's like if you enter this flow
state, you could do anything.
You're, you're just invisibleand I'm like no, you also have
to know what you're doing, justfucking have to know your
limitations so the guy whojumped the great wall of china,
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that wasn't his first time on askateboard or his first time
jumping something I, I like that, I like that that explanation?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
um, only because it perfectly explains what happens
when you go wrong, when you haveadrenaline like that.
I don't know if you've ever hadthis happen to you, but I used
to skateboard and there weredays that I couldn't miss a
trick.
I'm going to land on my feet onmy board every single time.
It just seems so easy.
And then there was this oneparticular day and I couldn't do
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the most basic tricks and Ishould have given up your board
and your feet just would not.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
They would not connect.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I was the set of stairs.
I would grind this railingevery single day that we were
down there.
It's it's the school rightbehind my parents house and we
would go down to the lower lot,and I would, everybody would do
it.
We would grind the uh, the curblot and I would, everybody
would do it.
We would grind the curb becauseit was a really tall curb.
So you could ride up, grind thecurb, everything and then you
ride, you grind the railing downto the lower level and it's
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only like six steps.
You know you could jump it easy.
We used to jump it barefoot,you know but I just kept falling
, missing the board, landing onit sideways, kicking it out from
from under me, every kind ofmistake you can possibly make
with it.
And then, one odd time, I'mstanding still.
We're not, I'm not rolling, I'mstanding still and I try to
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just do a kickflip and I landedit.
But when I landed it I landedwrong and so I shot the board
out from under me and fell onthe ground.
And I remember looking at myfriend and I was like damn dude,
I haven't fallen on my ass in along time.
This is weird.
Then we're goofing off, talking, whatever, whatever.
Oh, let's do this.
And it was this nice drivewaythat you can use as a ramp.
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Ollie, over the fire hydrant,tried to do it, caught my back
truck on the top bolt of thefire hydrant.
I supermaned, landed on my chin, folded over, and I remember my
friends thinking that I wasdead because I was looking.
I was knocked out cold is whatit was but my eyes were open and
they freaked out, though theythought I was dead because I was
staring up at the sky, notmoving.
Not, they were waving theirhands in front of me and I'm not
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responding, and I heard themsay go get his mom, go get his
mom.
And I woke up and I was likewhat happened.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
They told me what happened.
He was doing all of that onthis.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Listen to this guy.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Oh wow, the first ever skateboard.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Look at this guy In the 1950s.
Yeah, yeah, 1950s.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Wow, that actually looks pretty dope 1994, you
dicks and then, once he grew upa little bit, he got one of
these.
You can see it right, assfucking phone.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Oh, there it is.
What in the world is that?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
oh my god, that was in the 80s dude.
Yeah, with all the plasticbumpers all over it.
Yeah, I had that on the bottom.
It was like a, it was like a.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
The first one he showed was like this it
literally looked like a piece ofwood with wheels bolted onto it
um.
The second one he showed waslike this red board with a skull
on it.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Josh said it was a flat piece of wood when he was
first started skating you dicksokay let's just call it a
snowboard.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
So I'm snowboarded too um, but yeah, yeah, I know
what you mean.
There's not in a less physicalway.
Uh, sometimes, when there'ssome days where my guitar
playing is flawless, I'm soloinglike I've never soloed before.
All my chords come out so cleanand fresh, my finger picking
sounds so full and rich, andit's all perfectly balanced.
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I'm not hitting the high endtoo high or too much, I'm not
hitting the low end too hard,it's all perfectly flawless.
Then there's other days where Ipick up the guitar and I go to
play something I've played abillion times and I just cannot
fucking do it, and I'll make thestupidest mistakes over and,
over and over and over, andthere's certain days where I'm
just like it's just not a guitarday, I'm just I'm gonna put it
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down it just reminds me of theuh disney pixar movie fucking
soul like everybody doing theirthing and then they go into like
the flow state and yeah kind ofeverything goes black, but it's
just you vibing yeah like Icould lock in on rainbow six
siege.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
If I wanted to, I've done fucking 30.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Something kills a game you know, that's a good
point too.
That's it.
That's a good example too.
Very rare I've had those.
I've had those on call of duty,modern warfare, where I just I
couldn't miss a shot.
I could not miss.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh, I'm thinking of a specific time when tj fucking
went into a flow state againstme recently.
Oh shit, we were playing modernwarfare.
We were on the stupid map rustand this guy I I'm not gonna.
I was kicking his ass for mostof the game.
Then there was this one momentwhere he was at the top of the
map and he just knew exactlywhere I was going to spawn like
15 times in a row we were doingfucking sniper.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I couldn't fucking move.
I would spawn dive, fire, spawndive.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Fire Spawn dive.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
He knew exactly what he just entered, this flow state
where he knew exactly where Iwas spawning.
He knew the spawn points and hewas manipulating them too.
He knew exactly where to standto get me to spawn somewhere
else and I there was nothing Icould do about it.
It took me so long to break outof that cycle and I've
definitely felt that, especiallyon siege.
I felt that where, all of asudden, I hear everything, I
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hear the guy stepping outsidethe window and I'll, perfectly,
I'll shoot through the windowand on the kill cam.
It looks like I'm hacking, butI'm like I don't know how to
explain that.
I heard your footsteps and it'sjust like.
It's like I could see you on theother side I know exactly where
you are yeah and there's justsome days where it's like that
and other days where, man, Ican't hear a guy who's standing
(31:53):
right in front of me exactly sowhat?
The.
So, going back to this movie,uh, what do you know about like
specifically like witchcraft andsummoning demons, kind of thing
?
Speaker 3 (32:04):
what do I know about that?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
is there anything accurate to this where, like a
witch, could summon a demon togo after other people?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
oh yeah, absolutely.
Uh, we have it.
Actually, those are some ofsome of of the oldest roots of
voodoo of zombies, which wassummoning a corpse to go after
people.
It would do your will,basically because, theoretically
, legally speaking, if a corpsekilled somebody- what are they
going to do?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
arrest it?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Who's charged right?
There are some roots of voodoo.
Well, it's voodoo mixed withCatholicism, mixed with paganism
that creates Santeria, whichhas a lot of that.
There are things like thevoodoo doll, love potions.
Love potions are really creepybecause it's like a long-term
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intoxication that would make youfeel a certain way, like if
you've ever been emotional whenyou're drunk.
Imagine that long-term and youcan't snap out of it, and so
things like that, which I can'tprove it.
This is like the Arnie Johnsoncase.
I can't prove it, but a lot ofit has to do with demonic
control and demonic influenceand witchcraft, I think, has a
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lot of its roots in it.
You could go all the way back.
You referenced the Bible, allthe way back, the sorcerers of
Pharaoh, who were able to do thesame trick as Moses when he
threw his staff down and turnedit into a serpent.
They were like what's the bigdeal with that?
And they threw their staffsdown and they turned into
serpents.
So sorcery goes back as old asprostitution.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I remember recently going through that book again
and I remember I was tellingRosie about it.
I was like man, pharaoh suckedman.
There were so many times whereI'm like what more do you
fucking want?
The amount of times thatPharaoh would be like all right,
all right, all right, you win,you win, fine, you and God win,
go ahead.
And then immediately after waslike actually, I don't think
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I've learned my lesson yet.
Change my mind.
And and then most would be likeokay, this is gonna happen.
And he was like I don't thinkyou're telling the truth.
And then once again, it wouldhappen.
And then pharaoh's like allright, all right, you guys win.
And that happened like eighttimes.
It's crazy like you would thinkafter like one or two times,
pharaoh would be like you,probably the real shit.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Which I would like to bring up.
The next point here All threeof these movies show the same
and all survival movies,Everything related to survival.
This is a key point Knowledgeis power.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
The Warrens use their own expertise and they rely on
each other's expertise to workout their deal.
But in any situation,understanding your environment
and being prepared that's one ofthe things that we always say
regarding survival is beingprepared.
So if you're going to gosomewhere, you're going
somewhere new.
In our case, let's say we'renot going to go demon hunting or
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fighting or anything like that,we're going camping.
The smartest thing to do isresearch the area that you're
going to so that you understandit.
You know what's out there, whatare the predators, what are the
prey, what are the tracks?
Uh, what is?
What's the scat?
How can I recognize?
Those are the smart things todo when you're going to go out
into something else'senvironment yeah, learn what
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their habitat is research yourshit, be prepared I like that, I
like
Speaker 1 (35:21):
that I do like that was good I think you should do
that when you know that's just abear or a fucking deer or what?
Yeah, well, I mean, if you'remixing up bear poop and deer
poop, yeah, I think you're lost.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
I mean, yeah, you see a fucking log versus like some
pebbles, and you're like oh,that log belongs to a jackalope.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
You see a giant fucking stinky pile and you're
like I'm probably fine.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
A giant stinky pile with fur and teeth in it.
I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
That doesn't seem like a predator's at all.
No.
I think, that's a good rule forif you're going anywhere, even
if you're going to a differentstate or a different, especially
, I would say, a differentcountry, look up common laws
that you should know about.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
That's good too.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
That's a good point, because the thing is, just
because you don't know about alaw doesn't mean that you're not
going to be held to that law.
So you got to know the law ofthe land that you're going to
not going to be held.
That's right law.
So you got another law of theland that you're going to and I
think that's.
I think, as americans, that'soften uh, maybe overlooked might
be the word, because in europethey travel between countries so
often because every country isthe size of their foot and in
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america, basically our versionof that is traveling amongst the
states, but we have the giantfederal law that goes across all
the states.
But we have the giant federallaw that goes across all the
states.
So you know, there's the commonthings that we all know.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
There's random little laws in other states but most
of those are like misdemeanorsin any walk on a wednesday
afternoon with a salmon in yourright hand without holding a
bible or else you'll get 25years in state penitentiary.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Don't spit gum on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
That's not very valid .
Speaker 3 (37:05):
It's still on the books in Massachusetts, I think
we should, I'm going to takeEric to the gum wall.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
You ever been to the gum wall in Seattle?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
No, I never have.
I'm going to take him to thegum wall.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's going to be magnificently disgusting and
he's going to be mesmerized.
We're going to take a selfie.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
And the people who say that they fucking lick the
wall.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh God, I would lick the wall for like a million
dollars.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I understand that premise there.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Just for free.
You're a fucking freak.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It's the same thing with the Liberty Bell, though
that's so gross.
I would never lick the LibertyBell, but here's the logic.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
There is logic to it.
It's out in the sun, day andnight.
Do you know?
The best disinfector in theworld is the sun.
It's in an alley, so if it getsno sun, or does it get?
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I feel like it gets less than a full day's sun.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
No, it doesn't it doesn't need a full day because
an hour of sun is.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
It works wonders no amount of sun on a gum wall
would make me feel okay with no,no I.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
I'm not disagreeing with you, I would never do it.
But I understand tj's premise.
I would do something utterlydisgusting for and I'm not
saying me, but what tj's sayingis I will do something utterly
disgusting for a million dollars.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
The logic is there me , I, I don't, I don't think a
million dollars is worth it Ithink for a million dollars I
could do it, because I couldlogically just get my mind I
would lick the liberty bell fora million dollars twenty dollars
is twenty, I would.
I would lick the liberty bellfor a hundred thousand dollars
yeah, I I the liberty bell wouldactually, I would take
significantly less to do I waseven gonna say like 10 000
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skeleton of our first presidentI would not do that for health?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
reasons you are is the pocket freaking rancid?
I know right, I need to have apocket.
I cleaned out my pocket lint.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Well, I got the 20 I don't have to start, we would
have had a deal To disinfect it.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
You want to hear my next idea.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Survival related Okay , right, we've brought this up
in other movies Faith and belief, whether it's faith in yourself
, faith in your cause, faith inyour God.
You need faith if you're beingchallenged to your mortality.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I would agree.
I mean, I would say that I'msure you agree that humans are
made to serve something, so Iagree with that.
Actually, I don't think I wantto bring that up.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Well, so we saw this.
We covered the life of Pi lastweek and we kind of saw that
faith being a key for him, andit wasn't even necessarily faith
in a god.
This guy, I wouldn't sayworshipped multiple gods, but he
studied multiple gods and atthe time that he was going
through his ordeal beingshipwrecked and floating in the
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ocean he hadn't really made adecision or made peace with God,
if you will.
But he still had to have faithin something and I think we all
came to the same agreement thathis faith was in this story.
He created a survival tacticand it happened to work for him.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
He kept a quote-unquote tiger alive also I
don't think we brought it uphe'd be he was multiple
religions.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
To end the movie too, he was yeah, I don't think we
said it at the end, but it was.
It was never cleared up right.
He never went against, he neverfollowed through with his dad's
belief.
You have to believe one thingor you can't believe everything,
because you might as wellbelieve nothing which I still do
, kind of believe that but thatbelief, his faith in that movie,
(40:44):
their faith in this movie, bothin god and in each other, was
their source of strength yeahand that's ended.
You know, ultimately, at the end, that's what saved him uh saved
her.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Another key factor that we haven't really discussed
is that uh ed was hurt in thisone um this was the the first
movie where he got fucking killbill punched in the heart and he
was like oh, yeah, oh yeah, hedid, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the
demon almost killed him on thefirst exorcism.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
That's right now.
Oh my gosh, drink, drinksomething.
How much do we know about EdWarren?
Did that actually happen?
Did he have a heart attackduring?
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I mean, if you look at Ed Warren in real life, bro
was kind of chunky.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah he was.
They made him look really goodin the movies.
They cast a very good lookingactor for him.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
He was a chunky monkey, the chick who plays
Lorraine.
She's hotter than the actuallorraine, but like she fits the
vibe she does.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah, she has a good vibe.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Good vibe, but like but did ed actually have a heart
attack?
Speaker 3 (41:46):
don't look like ed uh , I don't know if he had one
during uh, so I looked it up.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
No, he did not, and okay, so that part was all, so
it dramat, so it dramatized theevent to make it.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
He had heartburn.
Now I do know that.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Lorraine, he had heartburn after dinner, before
the exorcism yeah, and then themovie is like it was a heart
attack.
Yeah, okay, hold on.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Let me say this though, just because just be
aware, aware anybody.
If you're not subject toheartburn normally and you have
heartburn, you might want to getchecked out because it does
present.
Heart attacks do present asheartburn or indigestion.
They can be confused one forthe other did I?
Speaker 1 (42:31):
did I talk about my indigestion story on this
podcast before the time?
I woke you up in the middle ofthe night because I thought I
was having a heart attack.
You remember that?
it was back in jackson I do yeah, I, I must have been like 19 or
something.
I remember knocking on alex'sdoor and I was like I know this
sounds stupid, but I feel likeI'm having a heart attack,
(42:51):
because it was like the middleof the night, it was like 2 am
and my chest was so was I asleep, you guys were asleep huh, my
chest was so constricted.
You guys were asleep, my chestwas so constricted I felt like I
couldn't breathe and it wasjust hurting so bad.
And my fingertips were numb buton both hands and it was
hurting so bad, and so I wastrying to just like, oh, you
(43:14):
know, maybe you know, I'm justhaving like a stomach problem.
Try turning this way.
Turning that way, nothing washelping.
After After a little bit, Istarted getting worried.
So I went and woke Alex up andI was like I know this sounds so
stupid because I there's no waythis is what it is, but it
feels like I'm having a heartattack.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
And that was when you told me you were like well,
you're a better man than me, Iwould have just thugged it out
Fucking died.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
No, I walk in my room by myself.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I'm like, I'm like, no bro.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
It's fine, don't be a pussy, die at 19 of a heart
attack.
Fucking mom walks in on my, soI walks in.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I'm like, so I um, but that's when alex was like
well, is your left arm numb?
And I was like no, but myfingertips are numb.
And that's when you were like,oh, it's indigestion probably.
Uh, you're like just give itlike 15 minutes and and see what
happens.
And uh, yeah, I mean, it's agood thing, it wasn't a heart
attack I didn't tell you todrink baking soda or apple cider
vinegar.
I think you might've said that,but I was like he was like no,
I'm going to do that.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, I was like it's a it's a quick way to know
Cause, if you have a indigestion, if you know the difference
between the two.
If you have heartburn, youcould take a teaspoon of baking
soda and water and it will coolit.
I mean, your burps are going tobe hot but it's going to stop
(44:37):
burning.
If you have indigestion, take aglass of water with a
tablespoon of apple cidervinegar.
If you have really badheartburn, two tablespoons or
indigestion, rather, twotablespoons of apple cider
vinegar and a full glass ofwater.
So eight and two tablespoons.
Chug that down.
It will burn at first, butbelieve me, the relief you'll
(44:57):
get afterwards will beremarkable yeah, that was an
intense pain, also heart attacks.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
I've heard it's like your fucking arm like starts
hurting your jaw, your your leftarm.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Now, of course, if someone has that rare condition
where all of your organs areinverted, it would be your right
arm.
So if you know you have thatcondition, please be aware.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
That's crazy.
I didn't even know that was athing it is.
That's super interesting.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
So you know, please get regular physicals, get
checkups, go to your doctor.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Don't be like me but it's not.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
It's not because your doctor is a cure-all.
Uh, you need to establish arapport with a doctor that you
can talk to, that you tell themwhat's going on, because it is a
practice.
They don't know you, you knowyou what's normal what is?
Speaker 1 (45:47):
that's also the thing .
Like there, there are certainconsistencies amongst all bodies
, but everybody's body reactsdifferently to everything, so
it's hard to say like y'all everget that fucking random sharp
ass pain right in the center ofyour fucking chest.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
It feels like you're about to die well, always I, I
get it, I've gotten it everyonce in a while, I'll just be
like oh you know I mean I've got.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
I've gotten that because I I wear contacts that
are night and day wear, so Isleep in them.
And I've gotten that because Iwear contacts that are night and
day wear, so I sleep in them,and I've gotten that kind of
headache right in the middle ofthe night when clearly my eyes
aren't getting enough oxygen,and it just pierces my temple
and I'm like, oh God, I'll getup nauseous and I'll yank my
contacts out.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
I get altitude sickness now.
I never got it.
I've been flying since I wassix.
Never got it until the summerof 2020.
I I don't know what it is now,but um, flying sucks for me now
I don't get car sick, I don'tget, I, I get seasick a little
bit, but somebody else wasdriving.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I get car sick.
I don't get car sick oh, Iheard a lot.
I hear a lot of people say thatit's just because when you're
operating a motor vehicle, it'skind of like an extension of
yourself, so you kind of knowwhat it's doing.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
You feel it, you feel everything.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, if you're with somebody and you're in the
passenger seat.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
You're expecting to feel what you're feeling.
Yep, that's the difference.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
It's kind of like it's a part of you and you're
like you know if I'm turningright.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
My body's preparing to turn right.
I already know that I'm turningright.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
My body's told me 15 seconds before I'm gonna turn
right you drive with somebodywho you know doesn't know how to
stop slower at fuckingintersections you ever drive
with a motherfucker who, like,waits to the last moment to
press the brake.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yes, I know, I, literally I have someone in mind
.
You're fucking like waits tothe last moment to press the
brake.
Yes, I know, I, literally Ihave someone gonna press the
brake yourself.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
You're fucking like where's the fucking?
My cousin elijah, oh no, oh mygod, he sucks.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
I I love him to death .
He fucking sucks with that hiswife will agree, because we've
but we've talked about this.
Her and I have talked that hefucking waits till the last
second to break.
Every time, and every time I'msitting in his passenger seat,
I'm fucking slamming fake brakesevery time I always say that's
someone who trusts their brakesway too much yeah, I'm like the
day your brakes aren't quite asgood as you remember them being.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
You're gonna fucking slam this dude in the back, you
get a fucking leak in your brakeline.
There's a slightly lesspressure.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
You're cooked so I I break so much and I break so
early because I'm like, if mybrakes start to fail, I want to
know right away so I can swerve.
Yeah, uh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
So the thing that I'll tell you on the opposite
side is me when I am sittingpassenger or backseat.
This is the backseat is whatreally trips people out backseat
makes me say I could sit in theback, read a book.
Nope, I could.
I.
I don't need to look around, Idon't.
And I've had.
I've been told by so manypeople.
How do you do that?
Now I just tell people ironstomach, dude, and I really do.
(48:42):
I really do have an ironstomach.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
I get heartburn and, uh, I suffer heartburn all the
time, but it's that's the mostyeah, I mean, I rarely get sick
not to eat, so I don't fuckingget heartburn, but I do.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
No, I get heartburn from everything, bro.
I get heartburn from water.
Yeah, yeah, I don't have any ofthat, somebody but.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I can't read in a car .
So I got two things.
Somebody who I hate fuckingbeing in the car with is my
stepfather, because he keeps hishand at the top of the wheel
just one.
Speaker 1 (49:13):
so if he goes over a bump it just kind of moves with
it so after you hit, you justfucking wobble like that yeah
I've done um I today in one ofthe work vans, one of the big
work vans, there was a part ofthe road that was real fucked up
and when I hit it the whole vanjust went and I was like, yeah,
(49:36):
it's fine and I drive a uh Idrive a lincoln town car, so one
of those big beefy cars it'snot gonna pull me off the road I
drive exactly like that tj.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
I mean, the car is super smooth, so like hitting
potholes or anything like that.
It it doesn't make me swervelike that, at least I don't
think I don't have passengerswith me that often but I don't
think.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
And then josh said weird fact did you know ketchup
was actually invented to cureindigestion?
Speaker 3 (50:06):
that's interesting I did not know that.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
Can we fact check that, pull that up?
Speaker 3 (50:10):
all right, let's check, let's check.
Uh, jamie, pull that up, jamiepull that up.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
oh wow, fact, check that.
Pull that up.
All right, let's check.
Let's check, jamie, pull thatup.
Jamie pull that up.
Oh wow, that's ketchup beingshoved into a bottle with
blueberries.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
That's interesting, jamie can you pull up a picture
of a puffin doing a backflipinto a vat of spaghetti?
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yes, ketchup was once marketed as a cure for
indigestion.
In the 1830s, an ohio physiciannamed dr john cook bennett
promoted tomato-based ketchup asa medicinal tonic.
He claimed it could treatailments like indigestion,
diarrhea, even jaundice.
He even sold it in the form oftomato pills and cornflakes, of
(50:46):
course, stop people frommasturbating of course, modern
medicine eventually debunkedthese claims, and ketchup
transitioned from a supposedremedy to the beloved condiment
we know today.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Cornflakes are the stuff, eww.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Okay, this makes me mad.
I wonder if anybody else hasthis visceral reaction.
Quite the journey for a humblesauce, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Sauce.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Do you think ketchup is a sauce?
I mean, that bothers me, thatreally gives me a visceral
reaction.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
It's more of an aioli , it's a puree, you know yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
I wouldn't call it a sauce, an aioli, it's a puree,
because like at McDonald's, ifthey ask you what sauce you want
.
Speaker 1 (51:26):
If you say ketchup, I feel like they're going to be
like what?
Speaker 3 (51:29):
You know, but that makes me mad, that you just said
that.
But if you add ketchup to, ifyou add ketchup to molasses and
brown sugar, you have barbecuesauce.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Yeah, so that makes it a sauce, but it's still a
condiment.
It's still a condiment, isn'tit like ketchup mustard and some
other shit to make fry sauce?
Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah, I don't think ketchup on its own is a sauce.
It's a condiment.
It's still a condiment.
I wouldn't call mustard a sauce.
Yeah, I wouldn't call mayo asauce.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
So like oh mayo.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
They're condiments.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Imagining mayo as a sauce just doesn't sound right.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
Mayo as a sauce that just sounds so wrong.
I like mayo, but as a sauce Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Imagine you go to the cookout of a white family and
say, yeah, I'm about to throwthese ribs into the smoker, rub
some mayo on it 12 hours ago,let it sit, it's just fucking
just spacey white ribs.
Oh, that'll give you a littlekick in your mouth.
Speaker 1 (52:24):
Oh, I put some salt on there, can you taste it?
Speaker 3 (52:28):
You know, if you like ribs and you ever make it down
here, I will smoke you my famousribs.
It's a dry rub and they're longsmoked.
So five hour, maybe six hourcook time.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Low heat, low and slow.
I prefer wet rub.
You are a good old wet rub.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
No, no, try it first Dry rub if you're struggling.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
I've tried a dry rub, but I also prefer a wet rub.
Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, the friction of the dry rub really.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
You don't wet.
Rub the ribs, guys.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
I just feel like I'm starting to fire.
I was not.
I don't think we were talkingabout ribs.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Guys.
Final comment on the Conjuring3, if I may host Sure, I think
in again.
This applies to all survival,which is facing fears.
If you're faced with somethingthat you are absolutely afraid
of, but you are also facing yourmortality, I think the option
(53:22):
of tucking tail and run is kindof taken away from you.
You have to face it.
For instance, I mean, we'vetalked about this I think the
worst case scenario is you'reconfronted with a grizzly bear.
Bottom line is you know youcan't run from it.
Right, you know you can't climbit, you can't out-climb it, you
can't out-jump it, you can'tout-swim it, you can't out-run
it.
(53:42):
We've got to do something withit.
So we try to do the sensiblething.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
You've got.
We try to do the sensible thingand research the proper
techniques.
What to do if you're confrontedwith a bear?
Speaker 3 (53:56):
before you go out there.
Exactly, it doesn't prefer adry rub or a wet rub.
Probably a wet rub.
You don't want to make it mad.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
So what you do is you run up to the bear, you jump on
it, you give it all you wrapyour legs around its neck, you
twist and jerk, you kind of do aserpentine motion while you're
wiggling right, you pop its neck.
It's back really hurts becauseit hasn't slept on an actual
mattress right.
So once it back cracks.
Speaker 3 (54:21):
Then it's going to thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
It'll stand up and be like thank you, sir, Walk away.
It'll give you $40.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
Will it say thank you , sir, in a British accent?
Speaker 2 (54:30):
It's like an Ed Edd n' Eddy when say thank you, so
in a british accent it's like aned, ed and eddie.
Speaker 3 (54:33):
When uh, ed, ed and eddie, oh my god, didn't uh have
a rock in his shoe and he ate awhole fucking slide.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
We are not that young that's a 90s thing though,
isn't it fuck?
Speaker 2 (54:42):
ed and eddie ed literally had a rock in his shoe
and it made him go so ballisticthat he ate a slide, a couch, a
whole.
I think he ate a house.
I don't.
I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (54:53):
The motherfucker was just tweaking but I still think
it's a 90s thing it's not.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
I've watched rugrats too, and I've seen rocco's
modern life and I've fuckingwell it might be a 90s thing,
but hey, arnold every time likefor for people our age tj.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
Everybody acts like the 90s were like 50 years
before us and that we're likewatching these ancient shit.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
I'm like dude, we grew up when this shit was still
around 2005 january 4th 199990s, part two.
It was literally like the sameshit I had january 4th 1999 yeah
, we had a vcr too I had a cdplayer up until fucking middle
school I used to have one ofthese tiny little MP3 players.
Speaker 3 (55:32):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
With like three buttons on it Yep and a
headphone jack and it was one ofmy favorite things ever.
There's still certain songsthat I hear to this day.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
That remind you of it .
Speaker 1 (55:42):
That when I hear it, I'm expecting the next song to
play, and I know exactly whatsong it should be Okay.
Speaker 3 (55:49):
That's funny that you said that.
I have that exact same reactionfrom the cd, the actual cd.
When I play this cd it has ummodest mouse um float on float
on the very next song.
I'm expecting it to be um.
Is it electric eel?
Is that what it's called?
Electric eel, electric?
(56:09):
No, that's not right.
I always confuse the name ofthe song.
It's the.
Speaker 1 (56:13):
But I know exactly what you mean.
My brain has been conditionedthat after that song, this is
what the next note is, because Ilistened to it in that order.
There was no shuffle on thatlittle MP3 player.
Speaker 2 (56:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yep, so I would listen to those songs in the
same order over and over andover Electric Feel.
Speaker 3 (56:33):
Electric Feel.
Listen to those songs in thesame order over and over and
over electric feel, electricfeel, mgmt.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
So my, my brain got so conditioned that, well,
that's what the next song issupposed to be.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, I didn't have an mp3 player, I got an ipod, I
think.
Sixth, grade or seventh grade Ihad an ipod nano, sixth
generation.
It was a square but it had atouch screen on it.
Uh, that shit was heat.
Um, I had, but yeah, I had a cdplayer up until like fucking
hell, I had a goddamn walk manit was kind of crazy now it said
(57:01):
that's beyond our years.
Speaker 1 (57:02):
We never had a walk.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
And then once I got a , uh, first like touch screen
that's beyond us I've had flipphones, I had a sidekick, I had
shit like that um, but once Ihad my first touch screen phone.
I remember getting all my musicfrom one of those fucking uh
ring tone apps, but it wouldhave literally the entire
fucking song on it, so you couldjust download the whole mp3.
(57:26):
So I had like a list like yeah,I'm just gonna use okay, so
wait real quick.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Do you guys remember limewire?
Yeah, I know that was yourthing, right, okay, but I know
what I never really used, so Ihad like a list.
Yeah, I'm just going to use apart of it, okay, so wait Real
quick.
Do you guys remember LimeWire?
Speaker 1 (57:35):
Yeah, I know LimeWire , that was your thing right, I
never used it, Okay, but I knowwhat it is.
I never really used it either,but I know Uncle Gil used it all
the time.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
That's funny.
Speaker 1 (57:42):
There's another one.
Speaker 3 (57:47):
It's like Frost something.
You guys off I and mostly youeric, because I think, uh, tj,
you're older, right?
Speaker 2 (57:54):
I am turning 25 and two months, so you guys are both
in that.
Speaker 3 (57:58):
In that group that would be called a uh, a zennial
a zillennial.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
A zillennial, is that what?
Speaker 3 (58:03):
it is a zennial because, like we're, not the.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
I was alive when the towers fell I was too I remember
my horrified one year old brainby less than a month.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
They hit the fucking pentagon mom.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
They hit the pentagon as my one year old self.
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
I was literally two weeks old.
I actually wasn't sentientuntil I was three, so that was
like a really miraculous momentwhen you said that, yeah it was
crazy, like I was full English.
Those were your first words.
Yeah, they hit the fuckingpentagon, they hit the fucking
Pentagon.
They hit the goddamn Pentagon.
Say mama, say mama.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
They hit the fucking Pentagon.
What happened to the guy whomade the first water-powered car
?
Speaker 1 (58:47):
Say da-da-da, it was an inside job.
Steel can't melt.
Speaker 3 (58:56):
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.
Damn.
Where did the debt go?
We still got to do that episode, guys.
Speaker 1 (59:00):
A 9-11 episode.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Yeah, a conspiracy theory episode.
Speaker 2 (59:06):
Will you survive 9-11 ?
We'll find out next time on.
Will you Survive the Podcast?
Speaker 1 (59:10):
Well, that's a simple math, where we strap ourselves
into a well that's a simple,where we strap ourselves into a
that's a simple math.
How many people were in thebuilding?
How many people died?
Welcome?
Speaker 2 (59:18):
back to impractical jokers.
Mer has to be in this building,oh my god.
Speaker 1 (59:27):
That is the type of fucking pray.
Speaker 3 (59:29):
That's the type of punishment they would always do
to mer damn, I know, I rememberthat guy saying uh, in one of
the last ones he says somethinglike uh, that is the type of
fucking punishment they wouldalways do to Murr Damn.
I know.
I remember that guy saying inone of the last ones he says
something like why has it alwaysgot to be me?
He?
Was so mad.
Speaker 1 (59:41):
They're like for Murr's punishment he's got to
swim in these shark infestedwaters while we chum the waters
with no shark cage.
All right, go on Murr Yep, andyou're like shit murr had to sit
there when they had the.
Speaker 3 (59:52):
Oh no, no, no, I'm mixing it up.
That one was jackass where, uh,they had one of the guys
sitting on the sitting on thestool and they let a grizzly
bear in and eat the fish out ofhis belt oh yeah, I I hate.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Every time I watch them I'm just like this is the
worst shit you could possibly do.
Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Like this is I, I will admit it's not even
entertaining to me.
Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
It's not even funny.
It's just like what the fuckare you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
I will admit there are.
Uh, the reason why I don't likeit is I laugh far less times
than I'm just like oh, exactlylike impractical jokers.
I laugh the entire, everysingle time yeah, the family.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I clip where they're like want to do jackass shit and
they're like he's like my nameis peter and this is roof, roof
shopping cart all right go andhe fucking flies off the roof,
breaks his neck and he's like oh, oh, oh, is it bad, is it bad?
They're all freaking out.
Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Was that the same guy whojumped off the table onto the
microwave?
He was like this is microwavewrestling.
Don't try this at home.
And he jumps off and themicrowave barely gives at all as
he falls completely on it Justhis back.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
He's like ah, no, the one that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
I did think was funny was when they took golf carts
and they just fucking sent themand they fucked themselves up
with.
Took golf carts and they justfucking sent them and they just
they fucked themselves up withthose golf carts.
That was funny, because that'ssome shit.
I would actually.
Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
There's the one uh clip from it where johnny knox
fills on a big ass rocket fullof smaller rockets on the inside
to try to propel himself andone of them shoots like two
inches, like out of, like theside of it, like next to him.
He could have been, he couldhave been impaled bro.
Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
So there was something else that was like a
side side project.
Nobody, nobody big involved init.
We're not a side project.
That's not the right thing tosay.
It's like uh, adjacent toimpractical jokers.
Uh, where it was?
You know those big balls thatyou can ride in like you can run
, oh, yeah, the hamster balls,the hamster balls and they had
taken this guy on the top of atall like a steamboat and threw
(01:02:00):
him off.
They launched him off of it intothe water.
Oh my god, it was only funnybecause, like you see the guy
flying in here there's nothingyou can do.
This is going to hurt twice,dude.
I don't know why.
I thought, hey, it might workuntil the ball hit.
(01:02:21):
Then he hits the bottom of theball.
I was like that had to be justas hard as concrete.
Right there there was nopadding, oh God.
Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Every time I see those hamster balls.
I can't remember who got hit,but it makes me think of
unisonis and if you know, youknow.
But there was an episode wheremark and ethan were running at
each other in those balls and Ican't remember who jumped.
I think it was, I think it wasethan jumped and kicked mark
straight in the balls eithermark or or ethan.
(01:02:56):
But it was just.
It was just fucking perfect theway it happened and oh, it was
so funny.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Is comedy all right.
Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
well, we kind of went off topic there, but I'm not
gonna lie.
We talked about most thingsabout this movie we've talked
about in the previous two movies.
Yeah, when it comes to likereligion and faith and dealing
with demons, and this was- Itried to keep it survival
related.
Yeah, I mean this one'sinteresting Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Facing fears.
Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yeah, the it was actually like.
At one of the first parts inthe movie, the dude who
eventually becomes possessed istalking to the little boy who is
possessed and he's like youknow, you're really brave and
he's like I don't feel brave.
But he's like oh, you know,just because you know, just
because you're scared doesn'tmean you're not brave you can
still be scared and be braveyeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, being
(01:03:46):
brave.
Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
I just wanted to bring that point up continue
what you were saying, eric.
Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
I like that point because that's something that I
think people at least me.
I don't know if everyone does,but I think there's times where
we tend to going to the Bible.
We tend to venerate the peoplethat are in the Bible and forget
how human they were, that theywere just humans.
That just because they didthese great things in the name
(01:04:16):
of god and they did them for god, doesn't mean that they weren't
.
You know, they didn't have thehuman emotion behind it, like
being scared.
It doesn't mean that you're notscared.
It just means that you havetrust in god that he's going to
take care of it.
That doesn't necessarily meanthat the human, the adrenaline,
the human fear isn't going to bethere.
It just means that you're notgoing to let that overtake you
(01:04:38):
no exactly and like that's themain thing is that that's
something I actually is somerandom thing.
I I heard from uh, one of mymom's boyfriends, uh, a long
time ago he was allergic towasps but he had like three
acres of land and there was agiant wasp nest and he had to
take care of it.
And I he was saying it to me inregards to spiders, which,
(01:05:00):
sorry, fuck you, I'm stillterrified of spiders and I still
won't fuck with them.
I don't like them.
But he was basically saying,like you, can't let your fears
stop you from doing what youhave to do, and I've gotten
better about that.
Hold on.
Nope, I've gotten better aboutthat.
We're like I won't let a spiderstop me from doing what I have
to do, like if it's in my way II have no problem just moving
(01:05:21):
past it, but it doesn't meanthat I'm not gonna sit there for
the rest of the day.
Just like, yeah, like I justhate that.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeah he's just a little man on my car.
Oh, he's kind of cute I I dothink jumping spiders are cuter
than a normal spider still roughI don't love them, but he was
like the biggest one I've seen,because normally the ones in
washington they're like littlelike really small.
It was like the size of mythumb, like this he's so chunky
(01:05:53):
really quick before we end theepisode.
Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
I saw an instagram reel and it was about a jumping
spider.
It was scientists wanted to see,um, they basically wanted to
see what the a jumping spider'stracking looked like when it's
tracking uh prey, and what theydid, how they did.
It fucked up, but so funny.
They, I think they basicallyglued a magnet to the top of the
(01:06:18):
of the jumping spider's headand then they took a little
magnet pole and they grabbed thespider.
And so the spider's justsitting there hanging from this
magnet on its head like lookingfor something to grab, and they
put a tennis ball underneath itand it would grab the tennis
ball and then they'd put it infront of a screen and they'd
show it a stimulus and the thespider would typically turn its
(01:06:42):
body left and right to look atthe stimulus.
But because it couldn't,because it was held by the
magnet, it would twist the theball left and right, and so the
way that the ball was movingwould allow the scientist to
track how a spider or how ajumping spider was was tracking
its prey.
It was really interesting.
It was cool, but I thought thefunniest part was that they
(01:07:02):
glued a magnet to the top of thehead so can you imagine the
spider who is just a spider andthen gets this thing glued to
its head.
Is now hanging from this thingthat's attached to its head and
then given a ball and is juststaring at this thing that it
does not understand.
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Moving back and forth , they shed like little head
helmets, so eventually themagnet would fall off.
Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I'm sure the scientists were conscious about
it.
Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Imagine yourself like tractor beamed up.
Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Could you imagine aliens doing that?
We would never stop talkingabout that if something happened
.
Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
Mind you, I did see an article.
I am not testifying to thevalidity of this article.
There was an article that saida man in Texas was convicted and
sentenced to 20 years in prisonfor kidnapping people,
pretending that he was an alienand anal probing them.
Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
See, that honestly does not surprise me At the end
of the day, game is game Allright, that's wild.
You really got to respect youknow.
Like Another minus one pointfor you on that one.
Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
But I think that was reasonable prime.
You did the crime, you did thetime.
Lakers in five all right.
Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Well, that was this episode.
Um, it really kind of went offthe rails right there at the end
.
Just, I should have stopped italways a second before and I
that's my bad, I'm sorry.
Uh, let's tally up the pointstj with minus one, minus one
minus one minus one minus one,uh.
Tj has one, two, three, four,five, six, seven, minus seven
(01:08:44):
points.
Alex has one, two, three, fourpoints, uh, so with minus seven
to four, I think our winner hereis alex.
Yay, good job, alex as a rewardwant to read the socials I'll
read the socials.
Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Guys, go check out our socials tiktok, instagram,
facebook.
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Youtube, you can check us out.
Search will you survive thepodcast?
Or the boys at wys.
You can also find us on x atalex and eric wys.
You can also search the boyswys and send us your emails.
(01:09:23):
Give us your ideas, anycriticisms, critiques, movies
you want us to cover or topicsyou want us to cover.
You can send those emails tothe boys at
willyousurvivethepodcastcom.
That's T-H-E-B-O-Y-S atwillyousurvivethepodcastcom.
Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
All right Winner speech.
Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
My winner speech is that I am grateful for this
opportunity.
I love talking about thesesurvival topics and this was a
little bit tougher, so I'mgrateful for this opportunity.
I love talking about thesesurvival topics and this was a
little bit tougher, so I'mgrateful for the win, because it
was tough to find survivaltechnique in a spiritual movie
like this, but working with thethree together made it a
(01:10:07):
possibility.
So I'm contemplating and Ithink I have the movie, so that,
uh, josh and any of ourlisteners can go follow along.
They want to watch the moviewith us.
Uh, I think what we shouldcover is um well, I gotta re
find my idea.
(01:10:28):
Sorry, give a, give your lure.
Loser speech TJ.
Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
If I shotgun this Mike's Hard Lemonade right
fucking now, within 10 seconds,can I get the win?
Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
How much is left in it?
Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
It's full.
If I down this bitch in lessthan 10 seconds.
Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
I'm opening it right now.
Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I'll tell you what If Alex is willing to make that
deal, I will honor it.
Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
You're going to go 10 seconds 15.
Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Give me 15 seconds.
It's carbonated.
You said 10.
It's carbonated.
Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
I was going to time this shit.
What is the ounces of thatbitch?
Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
How many ounces?
Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
12, 16.
Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
It's like the size of it's 16.
Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
It's a pint, pound a pint.
That's over an ounce a second.
Yeah, I'll make that deal.
Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
In 15 seconds, or 10?
15.
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
Ready, hold on.
I got to turn my fan on.
I need the.
Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
It's hot as fuck in here.
Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
I don't think we've ever done this on WIS.
Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Audio immediately went trash on my shit, but it's
fine.
This is the end of the episodeready, so tell me when.
All right, three two, one godamn you might do it.
Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
He's gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Four, three, oh wow oh, what did I do, wow, oh well
you might not survive.
Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
That A deal is a deal .
If TJ is alive by the start ofthe next episode, TJ All right.
Well, sorry, Alex.
Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
That's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
You made that deal.
Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
That was water.
Oh, my eyes are watering.
Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Your winner speech has retroactively been turned
into a loser speech.
That's okay.
It doesn't make a turned into aloser speech.
Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
That's okay.
Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
It doesn't make a lot of sense now, but that's okay.
The carbonation TJ.
Do you have the willpower to doa winner speech?
Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Thank you all for listening.
It's been a pleasure, oh shit.
Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Okay, just tell me this Was it worth it?
Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
He's like I don't even have a movie lined up.
Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
It was worth it.
Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Oh fuck.
Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
He's going to be so drunk too, because he just
downed it.
Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Oh fuck.
Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I don't know, he's got a lot of body mass.
Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
he might be okay maybe, but he was already
drinking.
Oh, anyways, all right.
Well, with that, that was aninteresting end to the episode,
so next week look forward to tjhosting instead of alex.
Uh, and with that guys, I couldfeel it coming.
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
It's like a big ass bubble.
It's going to emerge like achest burster.
Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
I should have challenged you to down a 16
ouncer of Sprite.
Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Oh, without burping, yeah, and then eat a banana.
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
You eat a banana and then you chug Sprite.
Eat a banana, then you chug it.
Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Dude.
Oh my God, that projectilevomit's crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
I love that one.
Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
I'm fucking sweaty.
Oh my tummy.
Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
Yeah, definitely don't eat a banana and then down
Sprite.
Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Yeah, stay alive.
Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Yeah, I guess you.
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