Will You Survive "The Cured": Post-Apocalyptic Ethics and Unexpected Nightmares

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The episode delves into 'The Cured,' a compelling film that examines moral and societal challenges faced by individuals reintegrating after a zombie infection. The hosts discuss character dynamics, government roles in the reintegration process, and the social implications of acceptance and redemption, weaving in parallels to civil rights struggles. 

• Exploration of characters' psychological struggles post-infection 
• Discussion on the government's role in rushing reintegration 
• Examination of codified prejudice against the cured 
• Comparisons to historical civil rights movements 
• Analysis of the film's open-ended conclusion regarding hope and recovery

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, hello, survivors, and welcome to
another episode of Will youSurvive the Podcast.
This is a podcast where we tendto watch movies and then go
over different survivalsituations or tactics that then
apply to said movies.
I am your host today.
My name is Eric.
I'm the host because I won lastepisode and it was very

(00:50):
rightfully deserved, because Iwent on quite the losing streak
that, I feel like, was notpolitically motivated, but
definitely politically motivated, and I would like to introduce
my two conspirators who kept meout of the winning seat for so
long Alex and TJ.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
I am Alex and I deny everything he just said.
We have never weaponized thepodcast against our political
opponents.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, that definitely sounds like some lawyer talk.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm niggly, that's wiggly.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, if it's not included in the intro, that is
what the rapper of Hershey'sKisses is called, apparently.
Well, if it's not included inthe intro, that is what the
rapper of Hershey's Kisses iscalled.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
apparently it's not going to be in the intro it's
just going to be just cold openright there, Cold open.
Just Caution, I'm black.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Caution.
Now, it's a caution.
It's not even a warning now.
Wow, this is going downhill, sofast on my watch.
I love it.
We watched a movie boys calledthe Cured.
Yeah right, that's what wewatched.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Did we all watch that ?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Not to be confused with the Cure, not to be
confused with the Cure, which wehave watched, but that's part
of the Maze Runner trilogy, notto also be confused with the
cure Like the ban.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah yeah, there's also a documentary movie called
Cured, not the.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, well, who would mix that up?

Speaker 4 (02:16):
And it's from 2024.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
It doesn't even say the it's called the Maze Virus
so not to be confused with.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
The man.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
What is it called in the Flare, the Maze?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Runner, the Fl.
So not to be confused with the,what is it called in?
The maze runner, the flare,flare, yeah, yeah, there's a lot
of a lot of confusion here.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Make sure we're all on the same page.
I really do think that maindude could have been played by
maze runner guy.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Dylan O'Brien.
Yeah, I kind of see it Also,the guy who played uh, who
played our Nicholas Holt in umuh, warm bodies, I feel like he
could have done the same roletoo.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, I also feel like his little zombie fuck
buddy whatever that nigga's namewas could have been played by
the guy who played Voldemort oryou know in the menu, the chef,
yeah, okay.
I feel like he was giving offthat vibe the whole movie.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I also feel like Cillian Murphy could have played
Cillian.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
He really could have Also.
I feel like there was a lot ofgay, zombie, sexual tension in
this Killian Murphy could haveplayed.
Killian, there was way moresexual tension in this than the
actual love story zombie moviethat we watched?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
No, but they also called him Killian no.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Killian was the child .
No, but Killian was his uncle.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I swear she called him both.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
No, killian was the, the child senen was.
Yeah, I guess so so okay, onething I would like to ask first
off okay, uh, I'm gonna make astatement.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
These were infected, not zombies yes agree or
disagree yes, I don't think youcan actually be cured if you are
a full-out zombie.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I don't think it's possible the motherfuckers in
like walking dead.
You're not there's no cureyou're not going to be able to
cure the zombies, you may beable to.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
They're dead, infected.
Right, because you you curesome of those people with their
holes through their body.
They just die right away.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
They're done yeah, everybody in the walking dead
universe is infected, but theyare not turned, so all the
infected people can probably becured.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I guess that's true.
Everybody is infected.
The walkers cannot be cured.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
In my mind.
This is in the same universe as28 Days Later.
It's just in Ireland.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah Well, I guess it's not the same universe,
though, because they don't callit the same.
They'd call it the same virus.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Not necessarily, but you know.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
They're so close.
England or the UK and Irelandare so close, they'd call it the
same thing.
They're literally connected tothe same continent.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Okay, you have got to make up your mind.
Do Brits exist or not?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
No, in this universe they exist.
In real life obviously not.
Oh, can we stop with thecraziness here?

Speaker 4 (04:47):
well, look, I'm sorry , but you're gonna have to pick
a stance.
I'm like we're talking aboutcompletely fictional people here
yes, obviously I well irishpeople no, I think I mean they
exist right irish or britishlight well, they're like,
they're like.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
They're like the people who pretend to be British
.
What about what?

Speaker 2 (05:06):
St Paddy.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
He's a fictional character.
That's perfectly fine.
Yes, just like Santa Claus.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Whenever St Patrick's Day is.
Anyways, did you guys know thatthere is a short story or short
movie on YouTube that is in thesame universe as this.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Now we're talking.
What is it?

Speaker 2 (05:26):
It is called the First Wave.
I watched it for extra credit.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Well, that's interesting, because I didn't
see it, so I don't know how Icould possibly apply extra
credit.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
So, host, would you like me to tell the listeners
what this is about?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I feel like I have no control of this episode, so you
do it, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
So the C cured.
From 2017, a disease that turnspeople into zombies has been
cured.
Society discriminates againstthe once infected zombies, as do
their own families, whichcauses social issues to arise.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
This leads to militant government interference
okay where I want to start theconversation here.
I think this is going to bemore of a free-form conversation
and we'll just kind of talk foran hour and see where we go
with this.
I will say right up front I'mpretty anti-government as it is.
I think government tends toscrew up a lot of things.
I think this was a royal fumbleby the government.

(06:20):
I don't think that the curedshould have ever been
reintroduced into society sosoon.
I think you don't know thelong-term effects.
Clearly they were beingaffected by.
The people who were cured stillremembered everything that they
did.
They described it as beingtrapped inside their body and

(06:41):
trying to fight the urge, butyou just can't.
And then Connor, the kind ofalpha leader of the infected,
said that there's a point whereyou just give up and you just
kind of go with it.
And I imagine that once you'rebrought back to being a human
and not infected, but you stillhave all those memories of

(07:03):
everything you did, includinggiving into it and just giving
up, I think that kind of breaksa person's psyche.
I think they're right in sayingin the movie that they're not
the same people anymore.
I don't think they should havebeen introduced so quickly
because of the fear that thatwould cause, because all the
problems that the society washaving with the never infected

(07:24):
people, saying that the curedpeople are giant risks and that
anybody who is taking them in isrisking everybody's life and is
kind of just a piece of crap.
All that could have beenprevented by giving them their
own society for like a two yearspan and being like look, we
cured you, I get it.
You want to go see your family,we'll allow visitation, but

(07:44):
we're going to keep all thecured people in this city.
You can live your lives, kindof start anew for a little bit,
reintroduce yourselves back intosociety where everybody feels
safe, and then, when we know thelong-term effects, this kind of
feels like an idealized versionof what a government would
actually do.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
But I feel like that's what they should have
done okay.
So one thing that I would noteon this that I guess this is
more a pragmatic look at whatwas going on.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
There was very little difference between that
military sergeant and connoryeah, I, I was realizing all the
characters they're equally evil, sucked yeah yeah, it was so I
was kind of thinking about it,for because you're trying to
pick a side, this whole movie,and I think the only side to
really pick is is to pickSennan's side, which was just to

(08:34):
protect his family and try tostay non-involved in either side
.
But the militant group, thiswhole idea of we'll introduce
these people back into society,but even we are going to treat
them like dirt and like scum ofthe earth.
We're going to call themmurderers, we're going to tell

(08:55):
them what they are and then besurprised when they act violent.
When you treat someone like ananimal, don't be surprised when
they act violent.
Which, when you treat someonelike an animal, don't be
surprised when they act like ananimal I have one issue with
that and it came up.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
I'm sorry to jump us to the end of the the movie, but
I had an issue with howeverybody was treating the cured
.
You would think that therewould be more family members of
the cured who were like, look,leave them alone.
You know they're, they're just,they're just us, they're just
trying to recoup from what wastaken from them there's very few

(09:27):
of those in the movie like you.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
You heard it at the beginning like oh yeah, they're,
they're back or whatever.
Leave them alone.
Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
But it wasn't like I feel like there would be more of
a majority I don't there wouldbe more of a majority one way or
the other.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, I think they were right in showing that
people would not be for this,and I think that's very
expectable, that's predictable.
I think the government couldhave predicted this is going to
cause panic, this is going tocause people to believe that
they're not safe.
That's why, I think, put themin their own city, leave that
they're not safe.
That's why, I think, put themin their own city, let it, let

(10:02):
it prove that they're not goingto turn back, that they are able
to function in a society again.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
And then you know, allow visitation and all that
and reintroduce them back intosociety slowly, over a few years
, not just well, they're cured,now go on there would still be
like a lot of like hate towardsthem even with that though,
because, like, imagine they'regoing through this, they don't
know what the hell's going on,and then, all of a sudden, your

(10:29):
dad eats your mom's face likeyou're gonna accept them back,
you know, okay.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
So here's the thing.
Maybe maybe I'm a little overly.
I don't know fantastical.
No, I don't know fantastical.
No, I don't know what the wordis.
Maybe I think I'm more logicalthan I actually am, but I would
imagine that, when all is saidand done, that I could separate
that you were not you, that youwere sick.

(10:55):
You were infected.
Obviously you wouldn't want todo that, whatever you did.
Sick, you were infected.
Obviously you wouldn't want todo that, whatever you did.
But then I think about it likeif I watched a family member eat
another family member.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
You're never going to look at that person the same,
even with that overly logicalside, saying that was not the
same person well, I would say, Ithink their pick for the
character of um it being hissister-in-law, not his sister
that made sense to me becausethere's no like tight relation.
She was doing it based uponwhat she thought her husband

(11:31):
would want.
You know, this is your house,I'm not allowed to go back to my
home country, I'm stuck here.
Uh, what can I do right now?
I like how it broke down thewall of her logic.
She thought that she couldforgive anybody for anything.
It wasn't them doing it andthen you saw her break apart

(11:52):
when she learned that it was himwho killed his own brother.
Now I have some questions aboutthis, because how much control
or lack of control can we reallyargue these things had if
Connor was able to control Sinan?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, so that was kind of.
They insinuated this kind ofalpha mentality.
They mentioned that they wouldhunt in packs Iron Legend vibes.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
A little bit like that it gave me what?

Speaker 1 (12:22):
what was that movie army of the dead with dave
batista?
Okay, it gave me that vibewhere there's an alpha who can
communicate more like a humanand can communicate with these
things, and that's what thatgeneral or he wasn't a general,
I don't know what he was, butthe sergeant yeah, the sergeant,
that's what he was saying, thatthey hunt and packs and that he

(12:42):
said that connor was the alphaand they communicate in a way
that we'll never understand,right?

Speaker 4 (12:48):
so it kind of gave like a hive mind mentality to me
, which I, I kind of thinkanswers a lot more questions
than than making more questions,because if you go the other way
of, they're mindless, right.
So maybe connor had morecontrol and that's why you know,
god, I, I this is socontroversial.

(13:10):
Was it an an aspect of hisformer life that that's how
manipulative he was?
I think so, and I love thatthey were making him run for for
office.
He was a barrister and he'srunning for office, uh,
essentially a lawyer.
If you're not familiar with thefictional country of great
britain, then um it.
By the way, that's a joke foranybody no, it's not, it's a

(13:36):
here at wys and their king islike 120 years old.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
We don't believe in fantasies over here.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Well, and on a side note, why can't the British play
chess?
Because they lost their queen.
That's a big rip, literally Bigrip.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
So yeah, reintroducing the infected into
society.
Let's flip the role.
I think right now we've beenkind of playing the role of an
outsider looking in on this.
Let's play the role of somebodywho was infected and has now
been cured.
Do you think you could livewith that?

Speaker 4 (14:11):
No, I don't think I.
I mean, I don't think I wouldoff myself like the one guy did.
I think I would.
I would persevere, but Iwouldn't want to be around
anybody who knew me.
I wouldvere, but I wouldn'twant to be around anybody who
knew me.
I kind of like the idea of whatyou said, like a sanctuary,
like they should have beenallowed to be on their own.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
I think that that allows them to one be in a city
full of people who understandwhat they're going through, and
that's just a full city oftherapy right there.
And it also allows theoutsiders to look in and see
okay, no, these people are humanagain, they're dealing with
shit.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
If I may, could you imagine the culture that they
would build if they were intheir own little like separate
island?
You've seen what themmotherfuckers are doing in like
their little apartment that theyhad.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
But they were All around in a circle.
But that wasn't all of them.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
But I also don't care that was the ones controlled by
Connor.
No, no, no, but it also doesn'tmatter.
Go ahead, go do all of thatstuff, if that's what makes you
feel better.
That's why you're isolated.
Let me give you an example.
Right, we have people insociety who commit heinous
crimes like intentionalunaliving of human beings, and
they get found not guilty byreason of mental defect.

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And they get found not guiltyby reason of mental defect and
they are assigned to go into ahospital and get treatment until
they are capable of standingtrial for the crimes that
they've committed.
And in those cases some ofthose cases, not everyone, but
in some of those cases theynever recover to stand trial.
They will never be.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
They're not well, they have always been not well
and they will always be not well, but they have always been not
well and they will always be notwell, but I I don't think
that's the case with these guys.
Truthfully, I don't think mostof the cured were not doing that
.
At least we weren't shown that.
Uh, doing the whole huddlething, the I am legend thing the
the cured who were doing itwere were following connor and

(15:57):
that seemed more like a cultrather than rather than like a
thing that the cured do.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
But see, that's where I think the idea of treating it
like a mental defect would be.
It would hold up morallybecause senen would then go
before the court, right it's.
It's different in ireland, butI'm using united states court,
forgive me for for the crossoverhere but you would go and wear
fucking powdered wigs still,exactly.

(16:24):
So you go and you stand beforethe court and you give your
defense right sen, and beingable to describe the actions of
connor while he wasincapacitated could be something
that the court may consider asan an extenuating circumstance I
think the fact that he wasinfected is an extenuating

(16:46):
circumstance on its own I,that's the mental defect?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
yeah, I think right away, but that's where I think
that the, the sanctuary city forthem, would be probably the
best way to handle this.

Speaker 4 (16:56):
But but that's what I'm saying.
You go into that sanctuaryuntil you're able to you can
prove that you can rightproperly which it would
essentially be like a trial yeah, this is a tough one, I don't
know.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
the scene that got me is when uh senen was sleeping
and he had this dream where thiskid was running down the street
and the kid turns the cornerand senen's just standing there
as a as an infected and startsscreaming at the kid, uh, and
the kid turns the corner andsentence just standing there as
a as an infected and startsscreaming at the kid and the kid
obviously starts screaming andit insinuates what happens next.
I don't know if that was justlike a nightmare or if he was

(17:30):
reliving a moment, but if he wasreliving a moment, how do you
live with yourself aftersomething like that?
Exactly, I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I don't know Cause you're still there.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
You're just not in control, so you can imagine, you
can still remember the taste ofa person, and oh, probably so.
Uh, because, like you could,you could rationalize away.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
You can rationalize away the whole, like I wasn't in
control.
I was sick, but you still didit, you still live through.
You do have memories of youdoing it and yeah, that's a
really tough one to, and that'swhy even the movie they're
talking about, a lot of them endup unaliving themselves because
yep, that's yeah, you knowthat's so tough, because even if

(18:13):
you had the whole worldstanding with you and going that
wasn't you, you didn't do it.
Nobody blames you.
I don't.
I still don't think that'senough.
Yeah, you're still, and and inthis situation, the whole world
was not on their side, true?
So that's even worse.
Now you have a good majority ofthe population who's saying you
shouldn't be alive, youshouldn't be with us.

(18:35):
And then you know you, you havecharacters like a Senate.
And who asked the, asked thedoctor?
Do you think it's even worth itto bring us back?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, and they basically put these cured people
on parole Like, oh, you got toshow up at this time for this
meeting or whatever.
Oh, you can't be late for work.
I was okay with that.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, no, I wasn't.
Because here's the thing Ifyou're going to say that you're
going to reintroduce them intosociety, either introduce them
or don't yeah either do it ordon't.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
None of this fucking game, none of this is different
than when somebody leaves prisonand is on parole.
And they call thatreintroducing into society.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Okay, so here's the thing, though these people never
went to prison.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
This is not something that they did very consciously
unprecedented territory exactlyyou had to make it up as you go
I mean, but that's what I'msaying in their own bodies, they
were and they were and theywere imprisoned in the.
They were imprisoned in thewhat do they call it?

Speaker 1 (19:33):
the colony yes, but we're no.
We cannot compare those two.
That is not the same asabsolutely that is not the same
as somebody who commits a murderand is put in prison, and or
let's probably not murder, butsomebody, why not?
I mean we can say murder.
I just don't know how oftenmurderers get let out of prison.
They get let out a lot, okay.
So let's say somebody commits amurder gets let out of prison.

(19:55):
That person consciouslycommitted a murder.
Somebody who was bitten by azombie, became a zombie and then
killed people is not held tothe same standard in my book as
a as somebody who was in prisonfor a crime they intentionally
committed.
All right here's.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Here's a a counter to that.
If you get into a car, you haveepilepsy, you go into epileptic
shock and your, your car, runsup the sidewalk and you run over
a whole bunch of people,unaliving all of them, you're
still guilty of a crime.
It's manslaughter.
Yeah, manslaughter.
You don't.
Maybe the the intent wasn'tthere, but it still happened.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
But so this is where we say these are extenuating
circumstances.
I don't think you're held tothat same standard right because
you're gonna charge everysingle person who is a zombie,
with every, every person thatthey, that they killed with
manslaughter.
It's just not gonna happen, butit it kind of did.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
No, they were all imprisoned in that colony.
They were not free to go.
It wasn't until that doctor hithim with the cure that then
they started coming up with theidea of reintroducing them into
society, and it was so brand newthat even society was rejecting
the idea, much like societyrejects the idea oftentimes, of
violent criminals who areparoled.

(21:09):
They go in up in arms, they goprotesting, they're outside of
the prison.
You often, for death penaltycases, you have both sides
protesting at the prison at thesame time.
These are very common, commonthings to see.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, I get that.
I think the situation changes.
All of that, I think.
In a normal situation, sure,but when we're talking about
zombies and being cured andreintroduced into society, I
don't think you can compare themto prisoners.
I don't think it's quite thesame thing.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
Well, but you can't compare it to anything because
it didn't exist.
Yes, there's nothing to compareit to, but what do you do?
Just pretend it didn't happen?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
No, I don't think you can do that either.
What I'm saying is that the waythat they did it, I don't think
is ideal at all.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
I actually think that's the best way they could
have done it.
I think you're right that therewould have been no movie if
they would have done somethinglike wait longer or put them in
a colony by themselves.
I mean, they were in a colonyby themselves.
The thing that might have beenI think that was far more
controversial is it probablyshouldn't have been run by the
military.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Well, so there's a few things.
One, why were they storing the25% in areas that had population
?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Why not store them in areas very secluded Behind one
really crappy fence too.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah like they really did not have the most security
for that.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Those doors were pretty fucking hardcore.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I mean, they're beefy , but that's only one, like
layer of security for somethingthat can literally.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
Well, it wasn't one layer, there were two layers.
They had the outer doors aswell, that some jackass opened
up well, it was not one layer.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
There was a lot of fails in their system.
They're getting them into thatalso.
That doctor going along withthat plan I, I get it.
She was driven by pure emotion,but the dumbest thing ever,
come on.
Yeah, she was so naive, yeahit's.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
I saw it coming a mile away so like, yeah, it was
very naive.
You do dumb things for thepeople you care about I get that
also, especially when she wasimmediately after curing her
wife and I was like oh man even.
Well, that wasn't even what.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
No, don't do that that scared me, not gonna lie,
that.
That spooked me.
I was like all caught up in themoment.
I was like, oh, that's verysweet, very cute.
But I was like this feels toocute and then, yeah, go from
like so just nothing, there'sjust no sound, and then they
just jump out of nowhere exactlywell, I was almost wondering if

(23:34):
if that was more of uh, tryingto get you in the mindset of the
doctor where she was soinfatuated with seeing her wife
cured that she kind of blockedout all her other senses.
That's kind of what I wasimagining, because movies do
that sometimes where, like, thecharacter is temporarily deaf
and so it'll be silent or likean explosion happens and you

(23:55):
hear like that really faintringing and the character is
clearly disoriented.
They do that a lot, so I waskind of imagining that like how
main character got infected.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
The zombie didn't make any noise until he was
right up on him yeah or right atthe end where the kid gets bit.
There's no sound well?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
so I know no, the the zombies made sound when they
saw somebody.
Right, that was when they wouldmake sound, right?
So because, like the one thatwas walking down the street when
, uh, I forget, uh, senan'ssister-in-law, I forget her name
.
Oh, that was elliot page.
Yeah, whatever abby, abby, um.
When abby was walking down thestreet and uh and that zombie in

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the in the hospital gown sawher.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
It wasn't until it saw her that it started making
noise and running at her rightwhich, like when they saw the
doctor, they should havescreamed like there should have
been some noise.
It was very inconsistent, isall well, that's what I'm
wondering.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
If they I don't know, it could have just been poor
writing, but I was imaginingthat it was like the doctor was
so infatuated that she'd curedher wife and that she had her
wife back that she kind of justblocked everything out.
I mean, and that's what theywere portraying, all of that
sounds good.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
The only problem I had with it is that cell had one
door.
It was a regular size door, thecell was extremely small and
the doctor was sitting on thebed facing the door.
Like her eyes were not facing,her eyes were were uh, her
peripheral would have absolutelycaught somebody walking in the
door, but somehow this thingflanked her and got on the side

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of her and tackled her.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Well, no, I don't think it was standing outside
the door.
I think, no, it had to havebeen in the room to get her the
way it got her.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
No, because the door was here.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
The bed was here.
She was so like it came in, hadto come inside the room and
then tackle her.
No, her wife was sitting hereon the bed facing the door, yeah
, and then she was sitting rightnext to her wife, facing her
wife.
The door would have beenabsolutely in her peripheral.
There's no way you could havenot seen somebody walk in.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I don't know, I think I really I do think that's very
possible.
Actually, I think when you'rethat infatuated- with somebody.
God, that's that no no, I think100 percent.
If you lost your wife and yougot her back and you think that
you're safe and you're so likelost, just staring into her eyes
, she just kissed her too.
So she like just kissed her waslike inches from her face.

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I don't think she was payingattention to anything around her
.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
And I think that's why it caught her by surprise.
It's just exclusively plotweaponry.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I mean, I think so a little bit, but actually I could
genuinely see that happening.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Why would this infected come back into the cell
when they were all already gone?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
That is what I would say I think is the plot weapon
is why was it even there in thefirst place?
Why did it come back?
But I don't know, I don't knowthat there in the first place,
why did it come back?
Um, but I don't know, I don'tknow.
That wasn't my biggest gripe.
Uh, I don't actually think Ireally have too many gripes with
this movie other than a lot ofgripes I mean, my biggest gripe
is more just, it's story.
It's a story thing, but like why?
Why treat them like suchgarbage?
If you're trying to, if you aretrying to introduce them back

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into society, if you treatsomeone like an animal and you
call them an animal, they'regoing to act like an animal.
It's what prison does.
Like what do you?
What the fuck?

Speaker 4 (27:04):
I think it was just.
I think it was just realistic.
It's very pragmatic.
It's whether right, right hasnothing to do with it.
I don't think it's right, butthen again, hey guys, what?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I just want to bring up um, I got the chat like up on
my left and there's lucy is theaether is just in the chat and
I try it's in french.
I translated it a blood curseon your life and your family, oh
shit is one, okay, she added meand I'm hold on, let me just

(27:34):
translate this again.
I'm like I was.
I'm so confused.
She added me and she said Becursed and walk until your feet
bleed.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I know that Isn't that from fucking X-Men Origins?
That's from X-Men Wolverine.
What the fuck?
Why are you?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
cursing me with movie quotes.
What did we do to you?

Speaker 2 (27:55):
In French, that's a very French thing to do.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
The good thing is that the French are useless, so
there's no way that that's gonnawork.
At least they exist Better thanthe British, huh.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, did you see that post?
I sent you that.
Pakistan International Airlinesis now flying to France again
after four years.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
No.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
And it's a picture of the French flag on the left,
the Eiffel Tower on the rightand a plane in the middle
pointing towards the EiffelTower and it says Paris, we're
coming, or something along thoselines, and it just looks super
ominous.
That's crazy.
That went through approval.
People had to approve that.

(28:44):
Objectively hilarious that iswild, crazy marketing guys, what
do you think the?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
uh, what do you think of the?
Uh, the zombie, homoeroticism,that, what, what happened?

Speaker 4 (29:00):
I gotta confirm that we're not robots.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
There it goes she was a little gay at some points,
you know yeah, it was getting alittle hot and steamy the way he
was, like standing behind themwhen they're like, like standing
head to head.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, the head to head thing gave me animal vibes.
Yeah, the head to head thingwhen they're zombies.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
There's like a little bit of tension there, but
dude's doing it as they're likecured and he's like behind him
and he just breathes on his neck, just yeah yeah, that guy
Connor gave me so many weirdvibes the whole time.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, I swear, he was like when he was standing
behind him.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I could just imagine his hand just cupping Sinan's
ass.
I feel like that's where hishand was the whole time.
Remember when we used to dothis when we were still infected
.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Remember when we would huddle in dark buildings
together.
And they did, and I would makeall the other zombies leave.
They would huddle and huff andpuff.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
You used to like the way I grunted.
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
Oh yeah, you like that.
I didn't like some of the.
The number one, I'll point thisout, I knew.
The second it happened that itwas connor who either did or
orchestrated the break-in andthe beating of senen, and oh
yeah before I even saw that theytook the videotape.
I knew like, right, right, whenit happened I was like that was
fucking Connor, like this is,this is revenge.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
It was.
It just fits so well it had tobe him, which it leads back to
your earlier point that bothsides sucked.
Yeah, connor started off as,like this, martyr, but
immediately it took a bad turnwhen he lied to Senate and said
that there would be nocasualties they're all empty
buildings knowing damn well thatthere was people in there.

(30:43):
And now Connor has blood on hishands now, not zombie and has
blood on his hands he really was.
So okay, I'm not gonna lie about.
Halfway through this movie Iwas like this guy feels like the
Hitler of zombies.
Yeah, he's like we're beingtreated badly, we should kill

(31:05):
them all.
And they're like, yeah, that'sliterally what Hitler did.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
That scene where he was stabbing the sergeant.
I thought he was just going togo full zombie mode and just
start eating them because hecraved it, or something.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I'm kind of sad that it didn't go that way, I feel
like that would add a lot of ohthis man's crazy type beat.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
It was interesting.
Well, I think that would implythat they could turn back, and I
think that would be a problem.
But I mean, they also left themovie open-ended.
So you know, I guess they couldhave done that, and who really
cares, I guess.
But yeah, I don't really haveanything else to add.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
So I had a real beef with with that that part.
I got mad when I saw that godown.
I knew that was Connor and hisgang.
I also.
I also didn't like.
I didn't like her reaction tofinding out that Senen was the
one who got her husband hisbrother.
But at the same time as I letit permeate my brain, I let it

(32:05):
percolate, I realized yeah.
It made sense it was purelyemotional, purely reactionary.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I think he knew.
That's why he didn't tell her.
That's the only reaction shecould have to that.
I don't see how she couldrespond any other way.
I think she wanted to responddifferently and she wanted to
believe that she would responddifferently to that, but at the
end of the day I don't think youcan.
That's a really hard pill toswallow.

(32:32):
And then she eventually camearound.
She didn't hold to that forthat long, um, and really this
was this was orchestrated byConnor, which again it sucked,
because both sides sucked andboth sides were trying to
manipulate the.
We're both trying to manipulateher.
The sergeant was trying to giveher information to to turn her

(32:53):
against Connor and um and SennanRight.
And then Connor's trying tofeed her information that'll
turn her against Sennan and umand senan right, and then
connor's trying to feed herinformation that'll turn her
against senan and and thesergeant.
And so it's it.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
it sucks to for her to be stuck in the middle of
this and and she has senan therethe I would say the uh sergeant
and connor throughout thebeginning exhibited very similar
personality traits and it kindof made sense when he said he
was running for political officeand I was.
At first I was kind of rootingfor connor to me too, like I

(33:27):
thought like, oh good, like hecan rally the uh, the cured
together and realize like heywe've gotta, we've gotta.
No, I, I didn't think revolution, I thought we've got to stand
together.
You know, we got to prove tothem that we are functioning
members of society and that wecan reintegrate well, and it's
when he turned to violence.
That's exactly it.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
I'm like you immediately just destroyed your
whole stance.
It's what it's kind of.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
I don't know, I don't want to go down that route.
Actually, this is an allegoryfor black people.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Okay, I'm not going to Shut up.
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
I was For real.
He went from Martin Luther Kingto Malcolm X.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
That's literally the exact analogy I was going to
make.
I was like this feels like aMartin Luther King versus
Malcolm X thing we need to beseen to by any means necessary
necessary we might kill thesebitches.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, there's a lot of controversy where it's like
give us the caution it's healready did.
It's like a lot of contra.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
There's a lot of controversy where it's like you
know they malcolm x's actionswere were needed to to get to
the point where the civil rightsgot to, but at the same time it
that's everything that martinluther king was against, and so
it's like I don't know.
Part of me does understand that.
I do think that there arecasualties, and especially when

(34:47):
it comes down to um your life,because I agree that with connor
, that the government was notgoing to stop at the 25 right,
they weren't going to stop atthe resistant, they wanted to
kill all of the cured yep andthat's what they were going to
do.
So it sucks because he has apoint.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Shout out to Martin Luther King, because it is
Martin Luther King Day on Monday.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Oh, shout out, Martin Luther.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
King Jr.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
If you really like black people, you can check out
our episode that just came out.
This is more for the people onthe oh, the blackening.
The blackening All about black.
If you like black people, watchour or listen to our episode.
If you don't listen to ourepisode.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
I guess, yeah, still listen to it.
The tagline is we can't all diefirst.
It's honestly a movie full ofracial stereotypes.
I feel like if you hate blackpeople, you'd love this movie.
If you love black people, you'dlove this movie.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
And if you love black people.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I think you'd still love this movie.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
Something in it for everyone.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah, so Connor lost me for the same reasons the
general did.
Where it's like you, it seemslike you're trying to do the
right thing, or the sergeant,especially at the end, seemed
like the sergeant was reallytrying to do the right thing.
He was a dumbass, he justsucked.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Why did?
He handcuff him first, insteadof the guy who's bombing people.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Right, Well, he didn't handcuff.
He threw the handcuffs down andhe said handcuff yourself.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, and then proceeded not to make sure that
he handcuffed himself.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, so he was pointing the gun at him the
whole time, except for the onetime that Connor grabs the knife
and he's just like handcuffyourself turns around.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (36:26):
That was my beef.
That was the stupid part.
And then, of course, where wasthat backup that he called?
They were on their way.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, the sirens, but yeah, you call backup in the
car.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
You don't call backup when you already confronted the
person and he already knew whatwas going down.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
clearly he sent in and routed him out.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Call for backup.
Wait a little bit, you knowwhere they can't fucking hear
you, and then walk up.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
But, they heard him call for backup.
Yeah, I don't know.
He definitely did not play thatlike a cop should play that.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Well, I mean, you know he, he wasn't a cop and
he's a fictional characterbecause yeah he was, he was
military not because this is amovie, but because he's irish,
he's fictional, oh yeah that'sright.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
You know, a lot of these actors are born in like
this made-up places.
I don't know why they're tryingto like hide their where they
were born, like it matters who'swho's?
Any of them, those people but,all in all, I thought it was a.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
I thought it was a pretty decent movie and I would
say that I definitely feel thesame as I did before.
I would not want to be curedfrom something like this.
Can I ask you guys about theending?
I was pissed off.
I love you actually like it.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
oh, I loved Really.
I think that's good film.
Genuinely, I think Americanfilm has lost its shine, its
glimmer, I don't know it's lostsomething.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Most movies will kind of like want to try to tie it
all up in a neat bow right nearthe end.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Like, oh, this happened, this happened, this
happened, this happened, youknow, happily ever after.
But you know I like that theyleave it up to your imagination
where it's insinuated that he'sgoing to cure, uh killian.
Um, which heartbreaking momenther having to to give up her kid
and it's like, it'sheartbreaking, but at the same
time it's like, actually, oddsare that he will be okay because
he's going with senen, whocan't be bitten by him, can't
transmit it and knows where thecure is.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
So, the outside, had a way more emotional moment.
I would say like with a kidbeing involved, type shit.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
But you know some good acting on her part what I,
what I didn't like about it isthey had showed him walking with
killian while all of thereports were being read.
You know you, I know right, youcould hear.
You could hear all of thereports over the, the tv or the
radio, whatever it was that youwere hearing them on that.
Uh, there were more protestsnow for cured rights.

(38:52):
There were more family membersjoining them as they're looking
for their, their relatives,their family members who were
possibly involved in the attacksthey might have been taken over
Part of the new 8,000 infected.
So now, what do you do?
So now you have more peopleagainst the cure, you have more
people for the cure.
Now it's a bigger fight andpeople are taking sides on both

(39:16):
lines.
So where was he going Really?

Speaker 2 (39:19):
He said he knew where to go where exactly with a
whole bunch of other infected.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
I think no, well, neither of them.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
He was going like smelled or anything because the
boy was infected.
No, true, I mean that it's.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
I'm not saying problematic in that way, I'm
saying problematic in the factthat, like he, what was the
point of him telling her toleave the kid alone?
Don't, don't end it?
But he, it didn't seem like hewas taking the boy to go get a
cure I thought the exactopposite, actually, I.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I thought it was insinuating that he was going to
the lab where he worked the labwas so much closer and it was
overrun.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
There was nothing there.
The doctor was unalive, all ofthe military had pulled out, all
the doctors had left.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
No, no, that was not the lab.
That was the facility that theytook over, but that wasn't the
lab I thought it was the samefacility.
No, it wasn't the same facility.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
The lab was where he worked.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
No that's different.
That was where they werekeeping the 25%.
Her lab was somewhere else.
That's where she had her wife,who was infected and she was
trying to cure her, and that'swhere Sennan went to work while
he was, I guess, kind of like onparole.
My assumption was that that wasa completely different building
and that was why she said whenthey took—what was her name?

(40:37):
Joan, her wife's name.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
I forget what it was what.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
When they took her, she, uh the officer said, like
she's gonna go with the rest ofthe 25 percent.
Uh, like your time's up,basically.
So my, my thought was thatthose are not the same building,
because they never showed thosetwo connected in any way.
So that's where I assumed hewas going.
I assumed he was going to thelab, probably hoping the doctor
would be, but she's probably notgoing to be there.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
The doctor was dead.
Yeah, the doctor was dead.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
But I'm wondering if the other doctor, now that she's
cured, would go back there.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
I mean it didn't.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
I guess she started walking, but Because Sennan was
able to just walk in.
Why would he be able to just goin there?
He in, like he, he.
Why would he be able?

Speaker 1 (41:21):
to just go in there.
He's not like okay.
So here I.
This is.
Yeah, this is my biggest beefwith a lot of the movie,
especially towards the end ofthe movie.
There was a large amount of timewhere it seemed like the
soldiers could just tell who wasinfected and who wasn't, and
like the times that, uh, therewas one particular time where
senen was running amongst otherinfected and the other infected
around him are being shot andkilled, but he's not, and so

(41:44):
it's like what the soldiers justknew that he wasn't infected.
Granted, he did have that funkylittle run, so maybe that gave
it away and they were like aninfected wouldn't run like an
idiot like that.
And so they shot the others.
But there was a few times where, especially by the parking
garage, they did eventuallyshoot uh connor.
But there was a lot of timewhere I'm like I feel like you
either shoot him or don't, right, there was time where uh, him

(42:05):
and uh senna and connor werestanding outside of the parking
garage.
There were bullets flying backand forth and they're just
standing there.
Oh, when connor was beating upuh senna in front of the parking
structure in the open, there'sshots around him.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
And they weren't actually in the open, though.
They were actually in thegarage.
That's why Sennan led him out,cause he knew he would get him
shot.
He, he gets tackled.
And then when Connor's beatingon, him.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
It looks like that's why he got shot.
Yeah, that's why he got shot,but what I'm saying is it's
weird that they didn't get shotbefore.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
No, because they were in the parking garage.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
No, I meant way before the whole time that I was
breaking out when the militarywas in the streets.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
There were so many times no, because they didn't
give the order until right.
Then Shoot to kill.
Don't try to decipher, Justshoot Now guys.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Well, I just think it's interesting that they were
able to decipher who wasinfected and who wasn't when
they were all running straightat them.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Clearly they couldn't , because that one that is he
remember they were volunteerguards.
They didn't know what the fuckthey were doing.
That's why that that one guywas actually right.
Senan was wrong.
He's like they're all volunteerguards.
They don't know what they'redoing.
So it's like you don't knowwhat you're talking about, but
then you.
The point was made when thatyoung kid blasted the zombie
that was going head to head withconnor.
They were just looking at eachother.

(43:18):
He blasted the one and thenconnor just stands there looking
at him.
He's like in shock that he shotone of them and then one of
them sidelined him I think hewas.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Well, maybe that's what it was.
To me, it seemed like he wasdetermining do I shoot you?
Are you infected?
Did I save you, like what?

Speaker 3 (43:34):
what happened?

Speaker 1 (43:35):
and then he got attacked because he spent too
long thinking about that.
That's exactly what it was.
I think that was a very naturalreaction to just be like I
can't tell what you are, Becauseyou were just staring at one
that wasn't attacking youNatural reaction for someone who
is inexperienced.
I guess.
So yeah, because I guess, ifyou're an experienced soldier,
you would just shoot you eithershoot or you re-aim.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
You don't stand there staring at something.
You either shoot that target orthat's not a target, and turn
and you're.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
You're back looking for targets yeah, but he stood
there like, oh yeah, I know thatdefinitely proves the point
that they they wereinexperienced british.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
So anyways, not british, good one, who are the
real cured?
He just offended, uh, theentire fake continent or the
fake country of ireland.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Of course he did real cured.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
Are the real cured.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
He just offended the entire fake continent or the
fake country of Ireland.
Of course he did the real curedare the infected.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
What, what.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
They're the real cured.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
What does that even mean?
What crazy fucking jumps oflogic are you going to make,
right?

Speaker 2 (44:31):
now to make this make sense.
I think that in order to becured, you have to be infected.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah, yeah, yes, right.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
But cured of what I think.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
The real zombies, the real bad guys are the living
guys I think, in order to behydrated, you have to drink
water the real, cured, the realI think, in order to be you
really just said in order to becured you have to be infected.
Like that was some real novel,deep subject right there.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Well, I didn't say it all fucking like you did.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
you fucking stupid bitch, In order to be dehydrated
, you have to not drink water.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, that's the same thing.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
You're dehydrated, dude, you're freaking alcohol in
your hand.
That's on level with what youjust said.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Fuck you and your Pirates of the Caribbean fucking
mustache and goatee combo.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
That is literally just a Spaniard thing.
You really have the Pirates ofthe Caribbean.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Shit going with that gap in the middle.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
You know what you know, what Hold on?

Speaker 3 (45:26):
You grow some hair in the middle of your mustache.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Something embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Eric.
Hey, it's me Eric, and I'm alittle bitch, little bitch boy.
Back to the show.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
What.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Something embarrassing.
I would like to reiterate it isme, Eric, and I am a little
bitch.
Back to the show again.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
He's going to edit you saying something
embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
You got so embarrassed just then yeah, wow,
well, minus 10 points, actuallyforget.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, you forgot I don't need that 10 points
because, guess what?
I'm on a goddamn winning streakall the time you know it's good
not to have to do something.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
Finally, you pick up the slack when do you have to do
anything?

Speaker 1 (46:16):
this guy.
I know he barely watches themovies half the time and he
barely edits on time, launchesit at 7 pm.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Tries to pass it off the one time, the one time the
one time I miss like we wouldn'tnotice.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Like we wouldn't notice.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, I've been on a streak every I'm on my way home.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I get that shit edited on time.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Except last week.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
He gets the shit edited on like Thursday night at
2 am.
It says processing.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Editor TJ here I'd like to say that is not a
factual statement, because it isThursday or Friday morning at
1.49 am and I'm still not done.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Oh, I got the emails to prove it.
Homie Friday morning at 1.49 amand I'm still not done.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Oh, I got the emails to prove it, homie, Because you
know, I've never once gotten achance since TJ's taken over
editing to be able to QC theedit before he uploads it.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
No, you did once, oh, once there was a time.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
You know, but.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
But you know I work a job.
All of your mistakes will justbe laid out plain for all of the
listeners to hear.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
He's in charge of editing.
This will be the one thing heedits.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yeah, definitely yeah , this is this is out.
This is this is getting cutMore things.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Hey, it's me alex.
I'm bald and I'm a little bitchand this bit is getting old see
, that's why he spends his timeediting more things exactly is
embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Welcome back to jeopardy fuck you.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Minus another 10 points.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Damn, I'm gonna put the fucking jeopardy intro right
there, it's gonna be fuckinghilarious.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Fuck you don't try to hijack the host's episode.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Your big nose thoughts on the end of the movie
and your sony headphonesthoughts on the end of the movie
.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
I well, I already said I didn't like it I.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
I got a little frustrated I thought.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
So I know what you guys are trying to say, this
whole like gen z thing, you guys, like you know, but I'm old.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
That is so not gen z.
That's actually more old schoolthan anything this movie's not
wrapping up the movie.
Yeah, this like it's a veryfilm thing to do.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
It's not like I think actually has always been.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
There's a beginning, a middle and an end no, I think
old school, maybe old schoolamerican.
I think foreign films tend tohave this more no, no open-ended
view.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Even in England, the fictional country, even in
England, every movie had a soundending.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
I don't think this is a generational thing by any
means.
I think this is a country thing.
Oh, it's a newfangled thing?
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
Definitely, because even when you go all the way
back to fucking Shakespeare dude, every single story had an
ending.
There was always an end.
It didn't have to be a happyending, and Britain was renowned
for non-happy endings.
It was actually very odd.
The new twist for them was, in28 Days Later, that it did have
a happy ending.
They tested one that did not,that Jim didn't survive and it

(49:41):
didn't test well, so theyswapped it.
That was the rumors on theinternet.
Um, so they made it the the uhending where he did survive and
everybody was all happy uh,which I'm glad that they did,
because this year, 28 yearslater, that actor otherwise he
wouldn't have survived and uh,yeah, the actor would be dead.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
That's crazy.
Well, the gym, but the, uh, thestudios really said like it's
really up to the audience.
This is how it goes your lifeis in the hands of the test
audience.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Well, I, mean, you know, they're all fictional
characters anyway, so they wouldhave killed that character,
like permanently well, they'reall fictional people anyway.
So fictional people, exactly sowith with um, with that, I
think that this did a poor jobof wrapping it up.
There was no ending.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
It's like the movies that they wanted to make a
sequel, but it's not good enough.
And a little bow showing himgetting cured.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
No, I don't care which way they would have gone,
like it could have been an issueif they would have let it be
known Like make sure you knewthat senen took killian and they
just went, they just left.
They were never coming back, itwas never going to be a return
but that's not what he said Iknow what he said, but they left
it hanging like, okay, it wouldhave been, yes, if, if you're

(50:59):
gonna, if you're gonna do whatyou say and say what you do,
then yes, show him getting curedand then end.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
But that's a shitty ending.
Why that's actually a badending?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
That's bullshit, I mean the ending was kind of
Having him walking around in afucking field with a bunch of
other.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Stop, stop stop, that's a bad ending.
I'll tell you why that's a badending.
Because play it out in yourhead, right.
They get to the facility hefinds the cure he gives it to.
The kid movie ends bad ending.
You eat so much better thanwalking in a field with a bunch
of other infected it cannot endthere, because if he cures it,
then he has to bring it back tothe mom, which means the movie

(51:36):
has to be even longer and theyhave to do more scenes, and it's
unnecessary when you caninsinuate.
No, that's horrible.
That's horrible storytelling.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
No no, no, no, then I would accuse them of rushing
the end.
Better ending, better endingready.
It shows a little bit of a timeskip.
We know how long it's beenright, because I don't know how
long it was from kid getting bitto the next couple scenes.
She's not watching the news.
A fucking outbreak justhappened.
Like what's happened, what?
How long has it been right?
So I don't know how long it'sbeen since bro's been walking

(52:06):
with this child.
So instead of that months wehave, you know a little bit of a
week later or some shit.
You know like show some timepassing and then you just hear a
ding dong and then kid boomending.
I, I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
That's what that's what made me so mad, because
they did say there was a lot ofpassage of time, because they
were talking in the news reportsthat she was listening to about
how long it had been and Icould have swore that they said
months.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
It could also be a problem with maybe he knows the
cure is out there, but he has tofind it.
Maybe it wasn't where hethought it was.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
But that's my point is, there's a lot of maybes,
there's no answers.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
But that's what I love.
I hate that.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
That's so good, that's a Gen Z shit.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
No, that's such good storytelling, but it's not.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
There is no story there.
You're making it up in yourmind.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
That's not a story, no they already told the story
and now the ending, the endingis make up whatever you want to
make up and you think that'sgood.
But it's not because theyinsinuate.
He promised, he told her, Ipromise I will get him cured.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I promise.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
No, but you see him doing it.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
He's living up to his promise.
You see him walking in a fieldwith a bunch of other infected.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
He was just fucking diddle dad.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
That's all he was doing.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
He was carrying the kid he was taking the kid to go
get him cured.
Guys, did you notice in theending?
I have it up right now I'mgoing to stream my screen
Connor's alive.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
Yeah, we know Connor's alive.
He got up off the concretefloor.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
True but do you see?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
So some time has passed, so why the fuck is bro
just in a field?
That's my point.
Keep it going.
This is, this is peak cinemafor you, eric, and that's the
end.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
Doesn't bother me bothers the shit out of me, so
time passed.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
There's a lot of time in the field connor's the voice
of the cured.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
We have no idea how much time plenty Enough for
Connor to heal from a gunshotwound and be on a campaign to be
the voice of the Cured.
And he was rallying all ofthose voices because they
mentioned it in those articlesin the news reports.
More and more people werejoining the voice of the Cured,
but it was like it was going tobe a battle on both sides.
That's kind of why I mean, likethey didn't tell us anything.

(54:22):
There was this battle brewingbetween the cured and the never
infected and it's just buildingand building and building.
So is that going to become arevolution?
And then he told hissister-in-law that he's going to
get his nephew cured.
And it's been all this time andhe's still out wandering.
So you have to feel like, no,there, he's not going to get him

(54:43):
cured, something went wrong.
This whole, maybe the whole waris hindering his ability to get
his nephew to the site.
You know, get what?
Like get, get the cure.
Or maybe the military's doneaway with curing people, like
they just said fuck it, no,we're not doing this shit
anymore.
Because that was one of thethings that was said in those
reports, that uh, they, theywere stopping with all of it.
It was one of the things thatwas said in those reports that,

(55:05):
uh, they, they were stoppingwith all of it.
It was kind of the prophecycome true that connor had said
was they won't stop at the 25,yeah, and they wanted to end the
process altogether stop curingpeople.
So there's, it just left mewith nothing because you're just
like, okay, well, and then, ofcourse, it just pissed me off
because it was a little boy.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
There's so many movies that are open-ended, that
are not new movies.
It's not a Gen Z thing at all.
I can't say I like anyInception.
A Space Odyssey, donnie Darko,a Serious man, american Psycho,
black Swan, fight Club, thePrestige, the Thing, blade
Runner, the Shining, theWrestler, lock Stock and Two

(55:44):
Smoking Guns.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
Lost in.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Translation Parasite Prisoners Shutter Island.
The Master, the Sixth Sense,the Usual Suspects.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Shutter Island's not an open-ended.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
That one, I think, is arguable, and honestly, the
first ten that you read.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
I hate those movies.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
You hate Inception.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Hate it.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
I think you just don't like good movies I never
even made it all the way through.
You don't like american psycho.
It insists upon itself.
Okay, you have already lost somany points.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
I don't want either of you to win right now.
Okay, you both have horribletaste in films.
Be the next host then I'm aboutto do it, what's you?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
wantlaws.
We've made no official bylaws.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
I haven't signed or sworn shit I'd like to point out
I don't think he's bringing thekid back.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
I think he is.
She's looking for them.
There's a bunch of maps andshit that she all piled on her
floor.
She's circling oh, not here.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Oh, circle here.
Maybe they're there when Right.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Look, I think she's looking for them right here.
I mean, I just need to know,that's, that's what I, that's
what I thought too and then Ithink the reason she cried is
because she's seen them on thatbroadcast or something.
So she's like, oh you know,still good.
So maybe it's been so long thathe's like still trying to find
the cure for the boy.
That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
That's what I think is insinuated is that he is
actively trying to find the cure, but the doctor who made the
cure died.
True, that's what I'm saying.
I think it's very obvious whatthey're showing or what they're
what they're insinuating.
You can't say that.
Yeah, I think it is.
Yeah't, say that yeah, I thinkit is.
Yeah, say that you can't sayit's very obvious.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Certainly can, but you've said, I think, maybe
possibly how many times in thisconversation?
That's just how I talk.
No, because if something wasfact right, connor got up off of
the asphalt after being shot.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
That's a fact that's not something that you don't say
maybe connor got up off of theground.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
He got up off the ground, he survived.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
He got up off the ground after insinuates I don't
think it insinuates, connorcould have gotten up and died
what he didn't, because we knowthey showed us later, but connor
could.
If we were going just based offof that scene, connor could
have gotten up and diedsomewhere else instead and and
if they would have left us thatway?

Speaker 4 (58:06):
that's exactly the same way I feel about this.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
But this they give you all the information that
he's actively trying to cure theboy, but they don't.
They do.
He told his sister-in-law I'mnot going to let him be like me.
I'm not going to let him havethese horrible memories of
eating somebody or killingsomebody.
I'm going to keep him with me.
I promise you I'm going to gofind the cure.

(58:28):
And then it shows him with theboy walking around.
I would think it's pretty.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Not finding the cure.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I think it's pretty obvious if you use your brain
that they're insinuating.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
He's trying to find the cure.
Your minus points for me iscrazy.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I think you want him.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
This is the first that they're insinuating he's
trying to find the cure.
Your minus points for me iscrazy, you know.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
I'm with you.
I think you want him you arenot.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
This is the first time you've been with me the
whole episode.
I've literally been with youthe entire time you shut your
mouth.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
I've just been trying to.
Y'all are just over herefighting.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
I'm trying to see it from both sides and make my own
conclusion from it this this isthe first time you have been on
my side.
I've been on your side thewhole time.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
You have not.
I have Rewind the tape.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (59:09):
I've been on your side the entire time, an hour
and 15 minutes of you not on myside.
I was on your side.
When was I Point out one time?
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (59:20):
When we were just talking about the ending, you
just flipped.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
This whole time.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
It's highly insinuated that I'm on your side
but, that wasn't, oh my god I'mwith tj.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
I think it's highly insinuated that he's on your
side.
No, because tj didn't say onyour side, tj didn't say I'm
going to take your side.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
I'm on your side.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
No, because TJ didn't say.
Tj didn't say I'm going to takeyour side, I'm on your side.
That is what Sennon said.
He said I'm going to get himcured, I will get him cured.
Tj didn't fucking say thatthat's not enough for me, I did.
I think it's literally allright there.
They give you all the info.

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
It's just like in every movie where it says, uh, I
won't let anything happen tothem, I promise, and then they
fucking die.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Well, but they said but we see he's still alive.
Sure, he's still alive, but theboy's still infected because
he's, oh my god, yeah.
So he found the cure and thenwas like nah, no I think.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
I think he can't find the cure.
I think he's looking for thecure which we're in the
conundrum that I'm explaining,that you're arguing against.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
I mean, he could possibly find it or he could
possibly not find it.
I'm telling you a differentperspective, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
His entire goal is.
I'm giving you a differentperspective.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
I cannot listen to two people.
Fuck.
You guys are overstimulating melike crazy.
His entire goal is to stop thekid From becoming like him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
So he's keeping the kid with him.
That's the goal of what hewanted, right, and to possibly
find the cure.
So maybe he does, maybe hedoesn't.
That's the open endedness ofthe story.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
But he's looking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
He is looking for the cure while also keeping the kid
from eating somebody's face off.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Correct.
That is literally what I'msaying.
He's looking for the cure, allof that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
I'm not arguing any of that.
I'm saying that theopen-endedness sucks.
I don't think so Leaving itopen like that, not answering
any questions and just endingthe fucking movie sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
it's a stupid ending no, I think the fact that you
also don't like all these moviesthat are also open-ended movies
.
I think you just don't likeopen-ended movies can't stand
them.
I think they're great,beginning, middle and end.
Will you shut the fuck up?
I cannot stand the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I'm not talking to you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
I'm talking to the viewers, I know, but I can hear
you.
You're not as quiet as youthink you are, so I'm trying to
listen to Alex and then I haveyou mumbling in my ear and I
cannot focus.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
You guys have driven me insane.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
It's not hard.
It's kind of crazy how youreally wanted to win.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
All we gotta do is disagree with you I don't want
to win anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
It's not worth it.
I have no control.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
You know you're the not movie guy.
Do something that's not a movie.
You'll have more control.
I know you literally saidopen-ended discussion at the
start of this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
I try to pick a fucking good movie that I'm like
wow, this covers a topic we'venever really discussed before
Infected being cured andintegrating into society.
I thought this would be a greatdiscussion.
I didn't know we were going toget caught up on the fucking
open-ended ending.
Why not?
Because it's open-ended.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I mean, that's the whole reason, that is the reason
for the ending, that is thegreatest point of the
conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
It is a heavily insinuated ending.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
You more or less know what's happening.
That's good enough for me.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
It's not, like it's not.
There's tons of movies where,like, a zombie will bust in a
door and the movie ends andyou're like, well, what happened
?
Did they survive or did theykill the zombie?
Like I don't know.
That, I think, is kind of dumband lazy, this one.
They tell you what is happeningand then they end it.
They just didn't show you ithappening and so that's not good

(01:03:25):
enough for you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
One of your movies on the list was Inception, and
thinking back to the end of that, his like what was it?
They're called like totems orwhatever to show if it's a dream
or not, and you see it wibble alittle bit, but that still
doesn't clear up the ending, butthere is more of a clear, like
it's heavily insinuated I fellasleep through that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
It's heavily insinuated that, because it
wobbled like that, that he's notin a dream wys word of the day
insinuated yes, I mean it's, I'mgonna, I'm gonna put like an,
ai like reading the fucking sayinfer.
Instead, you can infer usingyour context clues I'm just, I'm

(01:04:09):
issuing my perspective.

Speaker 4 (01:04:12):
Horrible, I like them .

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
It's my opinion from my perspective, watching that,
the way they did it, how theyended it, it was cut back to
like 10 minutes ago where I wasjust trying to make you mad and
I was just like I fucking hatethis movie oh, so you admit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
So you admit you were not on my side.
No, I was on your side.
I was just trying to make youmad and I was just like I
fucking hate this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
So you admit, you were not on my side until five
minutes ago I was just trying tofuck with you because you were
like minus ten points out ofnowhere.
Out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
It was out of nowhere .

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
You haven't said any points for the entire fucking
episode.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
You haven't been writing down any points.
I have a whole green book.
This guy will beat a man in thestreet and then get arrested
and go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Why are you arresting me?

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
What did I do?
I didn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
I have a whole green book where I can talk of all of
our points and shit.

Speaker 4 (01:04:54):
But that shit is funny.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
You know the worst part Arbitrarily doing points.
You have to have a writtenrecord of your points.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
The worst part, the worst part, the worst, the worst
part actually.
First of all, this is notdistractible.
Okay, we don't have bylaws, wehave no constitution it's
insinuated, it's heavilyinsinuated it is heavily
insinuated at the end of everyepisode, the host

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
will pick a winner that is not himself.
No, that's not.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
No, it is heavily insinuated that the host will
pick a winner, that is nothimself that does not mean that
that's the standard.

Speaker 1 (01:05:37):
Just because I've done it before, we've done
Gepardy before, that doesn'tmean every episode has to be
Gepardy.
It does actually no, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
This should not is a geopardy podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
It should, it should not be a geopardy podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Geopardy wednesdays, let's do it.
No, I don't think we have thetime, man unedited geopardy
wednesdays please, please, notoo many slurs welcome to only
for Eric, wednesdays, where wegive a question to Eric.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Only for Eric.
Oh my god, eric, what is the25th president of the United
States?
I wish I did.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Just know that I wish you did.
That would be so fucking funny,that would be so cool.
Oh, it's fucking GroverCleveland or some shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Yeah, yeah, if I just happened to know that I wish
you did.
That'd be so fucking funny, socool.
Oh, it's fucking grovercleveland, or some shit, you
know.
Yeah, if I just happen to knowthat one if you just happen to
know that you win the episodethat would have been really cool
.
Well, it's my episode you canhave it, it's fine.
It's just sad as fuck that youguys have it tj.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
TJ, you know who the 25th president is, don't you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah, it's heavily insinuated that I do.

Speaker 4 (01:06:47):
You don't know who the 25th president is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Yeah, he knows.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
You heard me say I know so it's insinuated.
That's the insinuation.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
It's what it's insinuated?
Yeah, but who is it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
We know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
John F no, the president's name is Okay, fellas
, it's William McKinley.
Did you look it up?
Oh yeah, it's William McKinley,from 1897 to 1901 Uh, some
white dude.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Some real white dude.
What did he even do?

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
He was president.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Duh oh, god oh he was assassinated oh man, he was in
the white house for 14 years.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
No what?
Oh, maybe.
Oh, he was vice president.
Oh, no wait.
What the hell during?
He had no vice president from1899 to 1901 can you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
do you have to have a vice president?
Yeah yeah, what if you're justsolo dolo, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
oh, mckinley was also known for keeping the nation on
the gold standard and rejectingthe inflationary monetary
policy of free silver.

Speaker 4 (01:07:53):
I got a question that you can put down.
You got to write this one down,tj.
This is for subjects only foreric or the the category only
for eric.
The motion of the equinoxesalong the elliptic, the plane of
the Earth's orbit, caused bythe cyclic precession of the
Earth's axis of rotation.
What is this?
Read it one more time.
Motion of the equinoxes alongthe elliptic, the plane of

(01:08:16):
Earth's orbit, caused by thecyclic precession of Earth's
axis of rotation.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Is that just revolutions, or Do you know, TJ?

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Is it heavily insinuated that you know?

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Is this a multiple choice?

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
This would be called the precession of the equinox,
oh Ew.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
It's actually called axial precession.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
It's called the precession of the equinoxes.
I don't know.
Ai Google is pissing me off.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
It pops up at the equinoxes it's actually called
AI Google pissing me off.
It pops up at the top now andit's like Fuck off 25,772 years
long.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
What is this?

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
The precession of the equinoxes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Yeah, but what exactly is it In not fancy terms
?

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
The cyclic wobbling of the earth's axis.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I swear, I thought you were going to say the
precession of the equinox againand I was going to lose my
fucking mind on you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
I was going to lose it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Dude, I wish I would have it really sounded like you
were about to, the rage wasboiling.
Andrew Jackson died on mybirthday In 1845.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Alright, we're off topic.
Alright.
Well, this was an episodeInsinuating insinuation.
It was an episode um.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
It was an episode it was a great episode you want to
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Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
I think that's everything Cool beans Alright.
Any final words on the movie?
A minute or less.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Final words yeah, niggardly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Okay, oh words.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Niggly wiggly.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Okay, anything Insinuated?

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
I don't have his confidence, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Well, coward.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
No.
I'm not going to say thosewords, I would say movie's not
bad, terrible ending.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Movie is good, Insinuated ending See okay, I'm
stuck.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
I'm stuck in a hard place.
I like this movie.
I do believe you.
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
I do believe you I watched the entire thing through
Decent acting from all thepeople.
The guy Connor, uh, greatacting, I mean horrible person
great acting.
Um, I don't think I wouldsurvive because if I ended up
being cured, I would probablyunalive myself I think so I

(01:11:38):
probably ate my fucking cat andwife.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Yeah, I feel the same way.
I don't know how you live withthat.
Yeah no.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
And then it would be worse when everybody on the
other side is like but theinfected didn't attack animals.
What do you mean?
You?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
ate your cat Okay maybe that one was my choice.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Maybe I did that one on my own.
Maybe that was before I got bit.
I was was really desperate Iwas really hungry.
I ran out of top ramen that dayI ate my last ramen on the first
day.
I oh, now we're going hashtagalive.
Yeah, you got the reference.
So I'm stuck in a hard spothere because I don't want to

(01:12:21):
give alex the win because I won.
You have bad taste and endingsbullshit.
But I also don't want to givetj the win because there's only
one person on this podcast thatgot negative points well, I
don't want to give tj the winbecause he was wishy-washy, he
was against me, and then he wasfor me, but he's also for me

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
now I was not against you like you certainly were in
the like real sense.
I was never against you in theme fucking with you sense, like
which I do every day for therest of our lives, because we're
gonna be together for the restof our lives.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Who do you want to win?
Isn't that just a real world?
Then you're literally in mywedding party, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
I'm just gonna fuck with you for the rest of your
life.
We're friends, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
This just is what it is, tj or Alex.
We got one for Alex.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
No, don't give it to the chat.
Yeah, chat is biased.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
You really think I would ever trust the chat to
make a decision.
You told me to walk until myfeet bleed and you want to ask
the chat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
Someone gave us a blood curse and we're asking the
chat for their opinion.
That person's gone.
I don't.
I don't trust the chat with anyopinion you've got.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
You've got one for me , one for tj.
I think you guys, I think we'rescrewed, we're on a tie again I
say drum roll please, thatthose are some beautiful drum
rolls that is even better.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
I like the combination.
I think the winner will be.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Hurry up and say it, my nipples hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
TJ.
Yes, let's go Mostly forpounding on his nipples that
long.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
For sacrificing the nipples.
My chest is red after that.
That's fucking.
Oh my God, I'm not gonna lie.
I was slapping my boobs, bro,yeah, you went full gorilla for
a second.
My mic is just above my stomachso I didn't want to

(01:14:20):
accidentally hit the mic.
So I went for my titties, andnow they're sore.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Oh, we heard every hit, every slap.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
That was funny as hell, right now that was wild.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Well, congratulations , tj, and thank you for that
epic drum roll.
Tj will be hosting the nextepisode, which you can catch
next Friday, from the releasedate of this episode, and until
then, guys stay alive.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I mean you could.
It's heavily insinuated thatyou could.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
You could also die, or maybe you'll just be
wandering in a fucking fieldwith a whole bunch of infected.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
I think you just don't understand them.