Will You Survive "Weapons": Witchcraft, Missing Kids, And Mayhem

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A smile you can’t trust. A request for a simple bowl of water. And a town that looks away as windows go dark. We dig into Weapons with clear eyes and sharp questions, unpacking why a strong performance and clever structure still falter when the villain steps into the light too soon. Our take is candid and unflinching: suspense thrives on restraint, and this story shows how timing can elevate dread or deflate it.

We break down the film’s chaptered perspectives and how they enrich the mystery, then debate a provocative reading: the “aunt” as a parasitic presence hiding in plain sight. From classroom lessons on parasites to eerily convenient backstory gaps, the clues are there if you’re watching closely. We also push into the film’s moral core—addiction, consent, and control. The teacher’s messy coping, Alex’s forced caretaking, and that horrifying dinner scene mirror the dynamics of households where power and dependency twist love into obedience. Consent as a rule of possession echoes folklore and modern horror alike, adding a chilling layer of logic to the supernatural.

We don’t just critique; we imagine how the film could soar. Picture a found-footage approach: Ring cams stitching the midnight exodus, bodycams capturing what human eyes deny, a scavenger’s lens catching the rituals no one should see. That format would match the “true story” feel and heighten realism without losing heart. And then there’s recovery: after control breaks, the kids and parents don’t bounce back—they rebuild, like waking from a coma. It’s a rare choice that respects trauma and keeps the fear alive once the credits roll.

Expect smart takes, specific scenes, production trivia, and a grounded final verdict: a solid eight with room to haunt even deeper. If you care about how horror works—pacing, point of view, and the ethics of fear—you’ll feel right at home here. Listen, subscribe, and tell us where you stand on the reveal: did it undercut the scare, or did it sharpen the stakes? Your turn.

Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_03 (00:27):
Hello, survivors, and welcome to another episode
of Will You Survive the Podcast.
I am your host, Eric, and I'mjoined here by my two co-hosts,
Alex.
That's me and TJ.
Hi.
You know, I feel like we haven'tdone an actual proper
introduction for an episode.
I know, I blame TJ.

SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
In a good while.
I don't know.
It's all TJ's fault.

SPEAKER_01 (00:49):
Definitely not my fault.

SPEAKER_00 (00:50):
Because you speedrun Minecraft.

SPEAKER_03 (00:51):
I'm not speeding running Minecraft.
I literally see the screenmoving.
Like I see the lightingchanging.
I can see that you're notspeedrunning Minecraft right
now.
Okay, but you're playingMinecraft?

SPEAKER_01 (01:00):
No.
Minus five points for lying.
I'm not lying.
Share your screen.
Why would I share my screen?

SPEAKER_03 (01:05):
Yeah.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06):
Well, you're just gonna see my desktop?

SPEAKER_03 (01:07):
Anyway, so we're talking today about the movie
Weapons, uh, which I think rightbefore my intro was probably a
spoiler alert, but I'll say itagain anyway.
Spoiler alert.
If you haven't seen this movie,it just came out this year.
I'm dating the episode, the yearof our lore 2025.

(01:28):
It's not.

SPEAKER_01 (01:29):
Shut up.
I read 12th first.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31):
Okay, I want to hear it.
It's cold season.
Okay, Mr.
Europe.
It is it's cold season.
They do do that.
It's cold season in the year of2025.
I see you playing Minecraft.
You've been.
I'm playing Minecraft.
I'm lost.
It's pre-recorded.
It's pre-recorded.
I'm like, shut up.
It's pre-recorded.
Also, what the hell were youtrying to build there?

(01:52):
This is it's pre-recorded.
I literally see your skin.
No, I'm just minus five pointsagain for lying.
You've lost this episode.
I you know what?
You're watching a video that ofsomeone who happens to use the
same skin, the same skin thatyou use.

SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
What what skin?
This skin?

SPEAKER_03 (02:09):
Yeah, exactly.
So the movie Weapons, guys.
Yep.
So I kept hearing that this waslike the greatest horror movie
of the year.

SPEAKER_01 (02:20):
Wouldn't say that.

SPEAKER_03 (02:21):
And I I wouldn't say that either.
I thought it was good.
Um, but I kind of feel the sameway about this as I did about
Sinners, where everybody waslike, Sinners is the greatest
movie that's come out this year.
I think it was a good movie.
It was a great movie.
I don't know about that.
I mean, it's a lot of movies.

SPEAKER_01 (02:38):
I feel like there's been a lot of movies.

SPEAKER_03 (02:40):
Exactly.
Well, I feel like there's been alot of horror movies that are
like they're they're reallygood, but then they get kind of
silly at the end.
Yeah and it kind of kills it forme.
And that was the thing withsinners and with uh with
weapons, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 (02:54):
Yeah.
Spoiler for the What was thesilly part?

SPEAKER_03 (02:57):
For weapons?
Yeah.
Uh the like 20-minute runningscene where she was running
through every backyard, and thenuh then you see like 20 kids
chasing her behind.
It was a little silly at the endthere.
I think I think it was I it wasfunny.
It was a it was a good part of Idon't think it was a bad part of
the movie, but I think it was,you know, it was a little silly.

SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
It was funny, though.
I I I enjoyed the funniness ofit, where the fucking kids are
just jumping like she's runningthrough people's houses, jumping
through windows.

SPEAKER_00 (03:28):
Yeah, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (03:29):
Well, also like once I figured out what was happening
in the movie, like it was whenshe was in the principal's house
and she snapped the stick, and Iwent, Oh, it's a Vivitch.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (03:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (03:41):
Alright.
And then that kind of was like,okay, well, that's the movie.

SPEAKER_01 (03:45):
Yeah, no, I caught on to it pretty quick.

SPEAKER_03 (03:47):
Um I I liked it when I didn't I think I liked the
movie more when I didn't knowwhat was happening.
I think they kind of revealedthe antagonist a little too
early.

SPEAKER_01 (03:57):
I mean, sorta.
I I feel like if they did moreof that like creepy shit with
her, because she like popped upin people's dreams and like was
in the woods with thatcrackhead.
Like if they did more of that,you know, and then like near the
ending, we figure it out, youknow.
I feel like they could have alot of people.
That's what I mean.

SPEAKER_03 (04:15):
Like like more like signs.

SPEAKER_01 (04:16):
Yeah, like you barely see, you know.

SPEAKER_03 (04:19):
I I think they revealed her, they made her not
scary because they revealed herso early.
They they revealed her in thehouse in daylight with with the
principal, which it that was acool scene because it's like,
oh, okay, I now I get the wholemovie, but like that that killed
it.
Now you know the entire plot.

SPEAKER_02 (04:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (04:36):
You you know she's a witch who's controlling these
kids with with the stick thatshe has, or with like with this
magic that she has.
So like it it it kind of justgave away the whole movie in one
fell swoop, in my opinion, whenyou found out what she was
doing.
I think I I agree with TJ.
I think they could have kind ofplayed it off where it's like
there's still like all thismysterious stuff happening, we

(04:59):
don't know what's happening, andthen towards the very end,
you're like, Oh, now I get it,it's her, she's doing this.
Because they could have shownher, but not shown that she was
the antagonist.

SPEAKER_01 (05:11):
You know, because we didn't really find out about his
aunt until like way later in themovie, you know?
And then it was just like, Oh,which big bad.
Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_03 (05:22):
Which I do like the way that the movie was broken
up.
I I love uh I saw it originallyin books where you the each
chapter would be from adifferent character's
perspective.
I thought that I think the notthe Percy Jackson books, but the
the Heroes of Olympus books umdid that, where each chapter was
from the point of view of adifferent character, and the

(05:44):
story would continue, and thensometimes it would be like, So
this is happening with this onecharacter, so now let's go back
a bit.
This is what was happeningduring that time, but with this
character.

SPEAKER_02 (05:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (05:55):
And so you would kind of get two parts of the it
was the same timeline, the sametime, but you're getting two
different perspectives, and youkind of get to piece those
together.

SPEAKER_02 (06:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (06:04):
I liked how this movie did that, where it showed
the different perspectives, likewhat was happening with these
people during this time.
I like that.
I thought that was reallyinteresting, but again, I just
think they kind of killed it byby revealing the antagonist too
early.

SPEAKER_00 (06:18):
Now, do you think that you would have been
affected more positively or morenegatively to find out that they
did shit like this?
Maybrook News, MaybrookMissing.com.

SPEAKER_01 (06:29):
Yeah, they were trying to make it like, oh, this
is a true story.

SPEAKER_00 (06:33):
Sounded like a yeah, they wanted to like I think the
one who did that the best wasThe Fourth Kind, starring Mia
Jovovich.
Uh they made that out to be atrue story, and man, that
creeped me the F out.

SPEAKER_03 (06:47):
The fourth kind was it or the Sixth Sense?

SPEAKER_00 (06:49):
What no, the fourth kind was like uh Alien Invasion.

SPEAKER_03 (06:52):
Okay, so it was that one, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (06:53):
But it was it was creepy.
They kind of they made it morelike demonic than alien.
It was also like you couldn'ttell if it was it was
interdimensional being ratherthan just like extraterrestrial,
because it was insane, likethere was craziness going on,
and they had this person, thisactor who's on IMDB who played

(07:15):
the person that was supposed tobe the real person and then Mila
Jovovich played that MilaDjovovic played her as the
actor, portraying her, so it waslike it was breaking all kinds
of walls to the audience.
So this was their attempt to dothat, right?

SPEAKER_01 (07:30):
This movie would have benefited from like the
found footage like format, likeBlair Witch type shit.
So like what is it?
No, that's a good point.
You would see everything, likeall the kids running away
through like the doorbellcameras, like we did in the
movie, but then like we wouldsee like the search for them
through like you know, likethrough through the people's
cameras in their homes, youknow.

SPEAKER_00 (07:50):
What if they would have done that?
Like, I love the idea.
You you just brought that in myhead, uh, using the idea of the
police finding all of the ringdoor cameras, compiling them all
together, and like because thatthat police officer went into
the into the house and was takenover by her, if you will,
possessed body cam.

(08:11):
You see the body cam.

SPEAKER_01 (08:12):
That would be fucking sick.

SPEAKER_00 (08:14):
But then you see him attack the girl.

SPEAKER_03 (08:16):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (08:16):
That would be cool.
That would be sick.
I also thought, like, what if itwas uh what if it was Home Dew
the crackhead walking aroundwith a video camera, right?
Because he was like, he was ascavenger, he had all kinds of
old shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:28):
So I think that could have been he just has like
a GoPro on his head orsomething.

SPEAKER_00 (08:31):
I think you just came up with it.

SPEAKER_01 (08:32):
No, that's they were gonna lean into the fact that
this is like real, you know,what's more real than found
footage, you know?
And I thought that when I waswatching it.
I'm like, this would be cool ifit was found footage.

SPEAKER_03 (08:44):
Okay, real quick, let's talk.
Uh you brought up police.
If I was that cop, yep, and Isaid, Do you have anything that
is gonna poke prod or stab me,and you say no, and I reach in
and get stabbed by a needle, I'mclocking you.
I do not blame the clock the copat all.
Yeah, he did.

SPEAKER_00 (09:01):
He did exactly that.
He knocked him up.

SPEAKER_01 (09:03):
You looked at his hand and he was like, Fucking
clock clocked him, he wasshaking for a second and then he
just went fuck, punched him inthe face.
I would have done the same shit,high key, because like, yeah,
how you gonna give me syphilis,dog?
How you gonna give me needle?

SPEAKER_03 (09:16):
I I I I okay, so like I know as a cop you can't
do that, and like you can get inso much trouble, potentially
lose your job over that.

SPEAKER_00 (09:24):
But the humanity of it, right?

SPEAKER_03 (09:26):
But I feel like as a judge, if you're looking at
that, you gotta be like, dude,you said you didn't have
anything that would stab him,and then you he got stabbed by a
needle that he has no ideawhat's on that needle.
I don't blame him for knockingyour ass out.
Yeah, like you deserve that.

SPEAKER_01 (09:39):
And speaking of like needles and drugs and shit, the
uh directory.
The movie, he uh there'sbasically like an undertone of
like of the like this movie isabout drugs and alcohol, you
know?
It's about addiction and it'sabout like living addiction.
Like how the like with the kidand the aunt, like you know,

(09:59):
that kind of dynamic, you know,kind of but I don't know.
What uh I don't really see it,but I like see it.

SPEAKER_00 (10:07):
There's a lot either.
There's a lot that they had putinto this.
Um so if you don't mind, hostweapons 2025.
When all but one child from thesame class mysteriously vanish
on the same night at exactly thesame time, the community is left
questioning who or what isbehind their disappearance.
So, in this concept, uh, I lovehow they hide in plain sight

(10:29):
that the teacher and the onestudent, the fingers are gonna
point to the teacher, of course.
And I gotta say, I was soannoyed with the teacher until I
talked to myself watching herand saying, dude, this is a
trauma response.
Everything she's doing isirrational, yes, but nothing
that you do in a trauma responseis rational.

(10:50):
What was the irrational goinglike insisting to go talk to the
kid when she's been told manytimes, don't leave him alone,
stop doing that.
But she knew something was upand she couldn't let it go.

SPEAKER_03 (11:01):
Well, I also agree, I I understand where like it
sucked because she got paintedas the the witch, the predator.
Yeah, and she's like, No, I'm avictim just as much as this kid.
Like, he's my only chance of anysort of normalcy or answers.
Right.
He's the only one that couldunderstand what I'm going

(11:21):
through right now, but becauseshe's the adult, she was seen as
the predator.
Right.
She was also the only person tonotice that he was acting
different, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
What what I loved, I loved the Iforget his name, the older dude
who went to confront her andthen ended up saving her.
Josh Brolin.

SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
Uh yeah, Josh Rowland.
Um I I watched his own.

SPEAKER_03 (11:43):
I loved his character.
I loved his character where heArcher.
He did not like her.
He was the like one of the mainones accusing her.
And then when but when she gotattacked, he was like, no, like
that I'm not gonna let you getattacked.
Like, like that's not what Ijust want answers.
I'm not, I don't want you to gethurt.
I I thought that kind ofcharacter was very cool to see

(12:06):
where he I mean I pretty muchsaid it, but like he's like, I
don't want to see you get hurt,I just want to know where my
child is.
Yep.
And I felt like you might havethe answers, but then after
seeing her get attacked by thatcrazed per uh principal, then
he's like, Well, clearly you'rea victim here too.
Yep, clearly you don't know whatthe fuck is going on because
that is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (12:26):
Mind you, you guys do realize the uh the chameleon,
the chameleon in this movie, theprincipal.

SPEAKER_03 (12:34):
Who is that?

SPEAKER_00 (12:34):
That was Wong from Doctor Strange.

SPEAKER_01 (12:36):
Benedict Wong is his name.

SPEAKER_03 (12:37):
Oh crazy.
You know, I recognized him, butI didn't know from what.

SPEAKER_01 (12:42):
No, I I knew that.

SPEAKER_00 (12:44):
Oh, he was also in The Martian.
We watched that.
The scene.

SPEAKER_03 (12:46):
Oh, oh, I know who he was.

SPEAKER_00 (12:48):
He was Bruce.

SPEAKER_03 (12:49):
Yeah.
So, oh, okay, but that scenewhere he killed his husband.
Fucking brutal.

SPEAKER_01 (12:54):
Dude, I could have done without the throw up
though.
I feel like that was a littletoo cheesy.
I feel like I feel like theblack vomit was a little too
cheesy.

SPEAKER_03 (13:01):
Yeah, I I know what you mean.
I don't I don't blame you forthat.
The head bashing that and thenyou hear that he's still alive
while it's happening.
Yep.
Oh my god, that was that washorrible.

SPEAKER_01 (13:12):
Yeah, that was really graphic.
I I like the um like her ritual,you know.
Yeah, I thought that was kind ofthat was very creative.
Very creative.
Um, the way he just kind offroze up, you know.
I was like, oh fuck.

SPEAKER_03 (13:26):
Okay, let me tell you something though.
If somebody says, can I have abowl of water?
Get out of my hand and I go,well, okay, hang on, hang on.
Someone says, uh, can I have abowl of water?
And I say, a bowl?
And they go, Yeah, you know,it's this weird thing.
I don't even rationalize itanymore.
I'm like, all right, I give youa bowl of water.
Then you pull out shit and youcut your hand with this thorny

(13:49):
stick.
No, I'm taking away that bowl.
I don't know what the fuckyou're doing, but I'm not
letting you continue that.
They just stood around andwatched her in their house do
that.
Like, absolutely not.
The second you start cuttingyour hand on purpose and denying
first aid and dripping blood uhand like rubbing your your blood
all over the stick.
No, I'm taking that bowl awayfrom you.
I'm not letting you continuethat.

SPEAKER_01 (14:10):
You're that's clearly ritualistic shit that
you're doing.

SPEAKER_03 (14:13):
Yeah.
I'm like absolutely not.
I'm not letting you finish that.
Well, I feel like that's Isurvived this because I don't
let her do that.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (14:22):
Like, what?
Definitely.
Um, but yeah, no, as soon as sheasks for a bowl of water, I'm
like, yo, this bitch is weird.
She looks weird.
I'm a very judgmental person.
Um no.
I mean get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_03 (14:36):
Yeah, no, I'm not gonna lie.
The because the principal hadthe right idea where he was
like, This is inappropriate.
You do not need to be here at myhouse.
Yeah, like I will give you aglass of water at my doorstep.
You do not need to come in.

SPEAKER_00 (14:48):
It's the fucking husband's fault letting them and
that's what I was gonna say isis all couples, all
relationships, you need to backeach other up at all times over
any stranger walking up to yourhouse.
If your partner has a hinkyfeeling, you're not there,
you're not talking to theperson, you didn't have the
conversation with this person inthe office, and now this person

(15:12):
is coming to your homeinappropriate.
There is no reason for you tocome to my home.
I missed it.
And how did you know I livedhere?

SPEAKER_03 (15:19):
That's what I was wondering.
How the hell did she know wherehe lived?
I would not be okay with that.
Like, I don't know.
If if I was with somebody whowas like, I don't know, this
isn't a good thing, like, youshouldn't be here, then I'd be
like, Okay, well, look, I'llgive you a glass of water.
You said you're thirsty, I'llgive you a glass of water, we'll
call you an Uber, maybe.
But other than that, I'm notcoming in my house.

(15:39):
This is this is inappropriate.
You shouldn't be here to beginwith.
I don't know how you even knowwhere I live.
You shouldn't be here.
I'm backing up my spouse.

SPEAKER_01 (15:46):
If they're uncomfortable, then I'm not
inviting them in because he kindof was just like, okay, I guess
she's coming in.
I'd have been like, babe, no,no.

SPEAKER_03 (15:55):
Yeah, like no, I I don't know.
If my spouse is uncomfortablewith somebody being at my
doorstep, I'm not inviting themin.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (16:03):
Which I will tell you, I I say which without the
pun intended, but uh in these inthese type of uh situations,
permission is absolutelynecessary.
There is uh in in voodoo, um,you have to believe in it in
order for them to take hold ofyou.
So there is a lot of speculationon it that if the person, I

(16:26):
don't want to say, you know,simply doesn't believe in
voodoo, but adamantly believescounter, I will not let you take
me.
They can't.
Permission is necessary.
This goes through every singleif you consider Bible truth or
lore, if you consider all thereligions of the world, fact or
fiction, whatever you want tosay, all of them hold the same

(16:46):
concept in possession.
Uh permission is always sought.

SPEAKER_03 (16:50):
I mean, we saw that in the Third Conjuring.

SPEAKER_00 (16:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (16:53):
Where he uh I think his name was Archie.
Was it Arch Archie?

SPEAKER_00 (16:57):
Uh yeah.
He he told the demon take meinstead.

SPEAKER_03 (17:00):
And we then didn't realize the demon was just gonna
take him too.
Yeah.
But have you seen uh yeah, talkto me?

SPEAKER_01 (17:08):
No, I want to see that.
That's on my list.
Yeah, I if I win this episode,one of the many.
I might pick that actually,because it's very similar in the
fact that like you grab thehand, and in order for like the
possession to happen, you haveto say, I let you in, you know.
Okay.
So that that kind of adds toyour point.

SPEAKER_03 (17:25):
And then recently, okay, let's just talk about some
other movies really quick.
Have you guys heard about thewhat the what is it, the woman
in black or the woman in thefield or something like that?

SPEAKER_00 (17:34):
The woman in the yard?

SPEAKER_03 (17:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, they were talking about theI saw I saw one trailer for it
and I thought that looks eerie,but not enough for me to want to
watch it.
But then some friends were I Imean, I don't even know if I can
say friends.
Uh people in the Discord weretalking about it, and and like
not to be mean, I barely knowthe people though.
I don't know if I can reallyconsider them friends.

(17:56):
Acquaintances, yeah.
People in the Discord, they weretalking about it and they were
like smiling ear to ear.

SPEAKER_00 (18:01):
You can see it.

SPEAKER_03 (18:02):
They were like, this movie, uh, they were like, that
movie was incredible.
I'm like, holy shit.
Okay, I'll watch it because itit caught my attention, it
looked eerie.

SPEAKER_00 (18:11):
And without knowing what it is, um, I was told
there's a major twist.

SPEAKER_03 (18:15):
Yeah, I don't know anything about it other than
that that poster of that womanin black sitting in a chair in
the middle of a field.
Something about it is so fuckingeerie.
Yeah, it is it's kind of like Idon't know, it sends shivers
down my spine.
I I I've heard it's incredible,so I kind of want to watch it.

SPEAKER_00 (18:32):
So there's just a little um uh what what do you
call it?
We call them fun facts.
Uh I don't know if you knowthis, but the film is set in
Pennsylvania.
That makes sense.
And in Pennsylvania, the onlyplace you can buy liquor and
wine is at state stores, and youcannot buy liquor, beer, or wine
all in the same place.
So that that liquor store was agoof that wouldn't have been

(18:52):
there.
Just a little fun fact.

SPEAKER_03 (18:54):
That's funny.
Now I I did love I I thought theteacher's response to everything
was very realistic.
Yeah.
Like the the uh like the goingand buying two bottles of vodka,
grabbing one, and then beinglike, maybe two.
I I think maybe, yeah.
Yeah, I think her all of herreactions were very rational, I
think.

SPEAKER_00 (19:13):
I also think all of the parents' reactions were very
rational when they found outabout her history.

SPEAKER_03 (19:19):
Uh yeah, unfortunately.
But like, okay, so here's thething.
I feel so conflicted about thisbecause on the one hand, I do
understand, yes, it'sinappropriate, quote unquote.
But at the same time, it's like,what is a teacher for if not to
support the student?
If the student doesn't have aride home, right.
I mean, I get it becauseunfortunately, there's really
shitty people who will do awfulthings to children, and it's

(19:42):
it's awful that you even have toconsider that.
Right.
But it's like, what is a teacherfor if not to be a mentor and a
help?
Well, and this is and that'swhat like good teachers get into
teaching for.

SPEAKER_00 (19:51):
This is kind of a new thing, because in my old
day, uh your coach used to driveyou, right?
My coach would drive me drive usaround.
We went to The uh Western theFootlocker Western Regionals
with my coach.
He was able to drive us.
We went to um the FootlockerNationals all the time with my
coach.
Uh also, even younger in this,in this grade level in

(20:13):
elementary school, my soccercoach would drive me home if I
didn't have a ride.
Um, I had now I lived reallyclose to my house, so I would
walk.
It was not uncommon for me toeither ride my bike.
I had a scooter, it was not thenew fangled razor scooters, it
was a cool scooter with biggerwheels.
You could really do some damageto yourself on these things.

(20:35):
And they did have handbrakes,but they didn't work for shit.
It was so fun.
You would just, if you would eatit, you would just slide on the
concrete for days.

SPEAKER_03 (20:43):
So that sounds so much fun.

SPEAKER_00 (20:45):
Oh, it was a blast.
Just don't fall, you know?
It goes so fast, so or fall ongrass, or fall on grass, right?
Steer off the road.
It works.
So, with all of these, uh, oneof the things that I wanted to
bring up about this is you guysdefinitely know our audience
should know who listen to thepodcast regularly.
This is the OG zombie.

(21:07):
This is exactly where the lorecomes from.
The Haitian voodoo.
Yeah.
And it's it's incredible.
What I really like, and now thenuance here was again, yeah.
TJ's right.
Once again, we're talking aboutthe ending already, is how they
said that many of them, like theparents were eating soup, you
know, some, but somebody elsewas feeding them.
Many of the kids had beguntalking again because she was

(21:30):
literally sucking the soul andthe life out of them.
They had to regain a lot.

SPEAKER_03 (21:34):
I I I did think that that was interesting because it
it kind of gave the it told alot in a very short amount of
time.
Right.
To say that like this was thishad long-lasting effects on them
where they were they wereaffected by this where they were
essentially zombies for a whileand they were slowly learning
how to be human again.

SPEAKER_02 (21:53):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (21:54):
And like that's that's kind of a scary thought
because it also kind of makes mewonder how much of it is them
trapped inside themselves andslowly being able to come back
out, or how much of it is likethey just aren't there anymore.
I feel like it might be and areslowly becoming them again.

SPEAKER_01 (22:09):
From like get out, using get out.
No.
I have, but I don't rememberwhat you're talking about.
So when she like does her littleritual and then ting ting taps
the teacup and he like fallsback into like his subconscious
type, you know, situation whereshe just like he's falling in
this dark void and he can seethe light coming from his eyes,
but he can't do anything aboutit.

(22:30):
I feel like it's that.
Oh wow.

SPEAKER_03 (22:32):
Okay, yeah, yeah.
That makes sense.
Like, cause that that seems kindof similar to like this.
Like at least that's like that'sone option, you know, because
like I said, it's either likethey're trapped inside
themselves and they they justare slowly coming back out, or
like they are gone and they areslowly becoming human again.

(22:54):
Kind of like starting as a baby,starting fresh, but you're
already five or six or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (22:59):
So I think kind of the same way, but differently.
I think like coming out of acoma.
Sure.
You know, it's very similar,like you're saying, but it
you're not starting over like atbirth, but a lot of ways you
have to, right?
Starting to speak again, tolearn how to walk again,
starting to walk again.
Like all of those things afteruh coming out of a coma are very
common uh to go through.
There's struggles.

SPEAKER_03 (23:19):
Now I wonder if any of them suddenly just knew how
to play piano now.
Yeah, that or speak Chinese.

SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
Brain brain trauma causes the craziest things, you
know.
We don't know anything about ourown brains.

SPEAKER_03 (23:29):
It it is remarkable how little we know about both
our ocean and our brains.

SPEAKER_00 (23:33):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (23:34):
I mean, brains are we've gone complicated, you
know.
We've gone further in space.
It's just a bunch of fuckingsquiggles in your skull.

SPEAKER_03 (23:41):
That is what's wild to me.
We know more about the moon andabout our immediate space area
than we do about our own ocean.

SPEAKER_00 (23:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (23:49):
That's wild.
I feel like we should do alittle more research on our
ocean.
You'd think.

SPEAKER_00 (23:53):
So here's a uh part in the movie that frustrated me,
but at the same time, I feltadded so much realism.
She's running through the gasstation store, the convenience
store from Marcus, and the gasstation attendant yells at her,
Yeah, get out of my store.
Yeah.
And she yells, Fucking help me.

SPEAKER_03 (24:13):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (24:14):
And I thought, like, it's it's so ridiculous, but at
the same time, okay, let's let'sgo into 2025.
That's so fucking realistic.
Yeah.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 (24:23):
Oh my god, I that just made made me remember.
There was a uh in like New York,there was this like young
teenager, and uh fucking somedudes just like rolled up on him
thinking that he was a part of agang, and he started like
running, and these motherfuckershad machetes, and he like ran
into the fucking conveniencestore and he was like trying to
fucking hide, and likeconvenience store dude just
wasn't doing shit about it, andthey dragged him out and murked

(24:45):
him very fucked up.

SPEAKER_03 (24:47):
Um Yeah, it it's it's shitty because I mean you
kind of think about it and it'slike it it's either it's either
one of two options, which Ihighly doubt it's the second,
but it's either one, a minimumwage dude who does not want to
fucking deal with thiscraziness, or two, the owner
who's like, stop destroying myshit, get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_02 (25:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (25:06):
So I I just I don't know.
I get I would like to think thatyou could run into a gas station
and get help from the attendant,but at the same time, I'm like,
I feel like that's the lastplace you're gonna get help.

SPEAKER_00 (25:17):
Okay, there is one thing about that scene that
bothered me is Marcus wasrunning after her full bore.
Archer comes from the side andsomehow tries to wrap him up and
take him down to the ground, andthey both go into the glass of
the refrigerator.
I'm like, dude, somebody'srunning that fast and you're
running at the side.

(25:38):
You just fucking shoulder checkthem, hip check them, do
something like that.
Yeah, and they're gonna fly intothe glass because they don't he
wasn't even there.
You stay standing upright.
I was like, why did you try tofucking wrap him up?

SPEAKER_03 (25:48):
I think that also kind of I think it adds a little
realism where it's like, Ididn't necessarily see Well, no,
actually, Archer was policetrained.
No, he was a police before.
Was he?
I think they implied that he washe used to be an officer.
Because when he spoke to thepolice chief, I think it was the
chief or the lieutenant.

SPEAKER_01 (26:03):
Yeah, he did seem like he was on like a first name
basis.

SPEAKER_03 (26:06):
He said Yeah, the guy the police chief or the
lieutenant or whatever he waswas like, Yeah, but you're not
on this case.

SPEAKER_00 (26:13):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (26:13):
Like he was basically telling, like, you're
not a cop anymore.
Like, this is not your jobanymore.

SPEAKER_00 (26:18):
I I could I could see your point, but I didn't
take it that way.
Well, but but what he said wasuh because they don't report to
you.

SPEAKER_03 (26:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (26:25):
He's like, Why didn't I know about that?

SPEAKER_03 (26:27):
But that that kind of implies something like I used
to have some sort of position.

SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
I see your point.

SPEAKER_03 (26:32):
And he's like, Yeah, but they don't report to you.

SPEAKER_00 (26:33):
Like, did you also like them the nuance, the
detail, how he was fucking up sobad at work?

SPEAKER_03 (26:38):
Like yes, I loved that where he's like, No, I
fucked up.
I fuck I ordered the wrong shit.
That's my bad.
Like two things the foreman'slike, dude, you you But I also
think it's like, dude, your kidjust went missing.

SPEAKER_00 (26:48):
No, I get it.

SPEAKER_03 (26:49):
Like stopped working.

SPEAKER_00 (26:50):
That like that's the reality.

SPEAKER_03 (26:53):
Stop trying to do this right now.

SPEAKER_00 (26:55):
I I I If I may, it's like it's like somebody that I
know, his uh his boss just had ababy at this point and was still
trying to come into work and wasfucking everything up.
It was like, dude, go home.

SPEAKER_03 (27:07):
Just take your hands off shit and walk.
I won't say who this was.
Just take your hands off shitand let your general manager do
what they gotta do.

SPEAKER_00 (27:16):
That's that you know, it's just it's a story I
heard.
It's apocryphal.
It may or may not be true.

SPEAKER_03 (27:22):
But yeah, I I agree.
Uh but I think that added a lotof realism because it's also
like I'm a bit of a workaholic,and I think I understand where
it's like if you're goingthrough something, the last
thing I want to do is just be athome all day.

SPEAKER_02 (27:34):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (27:34):
If I'm going through something, I kind of want to
just get to something familiarthat I know I know how to do.
Right.
But I mean, that also runs therisk of now you're gonna be
fucking up because you're not inyour right mind.

SPEAKER_00 (27:44):
You're not because when you're at work, you're
gonna be thinking about thisthing at home.
But you're trying to go awayfrom home because all you're
doing is thinking about thisthing at home.

SPEAKER_03 (27:52):
You're trying to stop thinking about it.
And I mean that's where I likethat's where I think therapy is
important because like you haveto learn that you can't just run
away from it, you gotta actuallydeal with it.
And the way he was dealing withit was trying to solve it.

SPEAKER_02 (28:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (28:04):
Um, which he actually did, so to his credit,
and so solve it.

SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
And so did the little alcoholic teacher, man.
She she bothered me so muchuntil I I went through it in my
head and was like, you knowwhat?
No, this is just a really goodportrayal of a person going
through an absolutely terrifyingand horrible trauma response,
and she's doing all the wrongthings.
You know, you you drinking isjust gonna mask it, it's not
gonna fix it.

(28:29):
Yeah, you know, you're not gonnaactually get away from it.
The drinking and then how didyou like and then like how did
you like those nightmares?
Oh, like hers, hers was good.

SPEAKER_01 (28:37):
Oh, I was with Archer who was watching it and
he jumped.
I I jumped like me.

SPEAKER_00 (28:43):
That one gave me a good, a good startle.
That one and the other one thatgave me the startle was uh I
didn't really startle when shecame at Archer in his dream uh
because he didn't respond,right?
He like jumped up and was like,What the fuck?

SPEAKER_03 (28:55):
You know, I wasn't like that one that's the one
that fucking startled me becauseI was not ready for it.
I was like, I was mid-talking tothem about something.
Like I was watching it, but theyI was in the Discord call with
them.
I was like, I was in the middleof talking, I was like, Oh yeah,
and then it's like, oh fuck!Jeez, sorry, something scary
just happened, and then I wentback to say what I was saying,
but like it fucking startled me.

SPEAKER_00 (29:16):
You know, the one that actually got me to jump
pretty good was when Alex openedthe door.
And also, by the way, just soyou guys know, watching this
movie at like 2 a.m.
by myself and hearing thiscreepy fucking lady keep saying
Alex over and over again wasjust like it was so disturbing.
But it was it was a she'stalking to me, guys.
She knows I'm she was talking tome, and I was like, good luck

(29:37):
getting my hair.
It doesn't even have to be howwould that work?

SPEAKER_01 (29:42):
It I think it just has to be like something that
you know they did something fromthem, yeah.
Something from them.
That's why you think those uhnames are the art, the art
pieces, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (29:52):
They all drew their own names and stuff.
So it was something that theyput, you know, it was of
themselves, the essence of them,if you will.
So that kind of made sense.
I didn't get it at first.
I was like, I honestly kind ofthought Alex was gonna be a bad
guy because I understood theposition he was in.
Just going along with it, but itwas they kept emphasizing uh

(30:12):
Matthew bullying him.
And so I thought, oh shit, didthis kid like start out doing
this willfully?
Like, like really willfully.

SPEAKER_03 (30:20):
The only reason I didn't think that is because he
was still feeding them all.

SPEAKER_00 (30:23):
But we didn't know that at the time.

SPEAKER_03 (30:24):
Oh, I guess so.
But I mean, he never gave methat vibe.
He he gave me the vibe of like asweet kid who's being bullied,
and that sucks.
But he never gave me the vibe ofa kid who uh would do anything
like malicious.

SPEAKER_00 (30:36):
Oh man, he made me like I didn't believe it, but
then the sweetest kids sometimesare the ones who just snap.
And I was like, oh shit, what'sgonna happen?
Is is this lady gonna turnaround?
Like, I was going the exactopposite direction, thinking
like, oh, the parents seem sonice and wholesome and wonderful
up front, but is there somethingdark and sinister behind the

(30:57):
scenes?
And this aunt comes along and islike, Oh, your parents are doing
this and this, and I'm gonnastop them from hurting you, and
then start like I was this washow fast my brain went when they
were like hypnotized at thetable.
And he was like, Dad, dad.
And I was like really botheredby her, but I was like, Oh shit,
how is Matthew gonna tie intothis?
Because they had already shownyou two examples of him being

(31:19):
bullied by Matthew.
I'm like, I wonder if thisfucking lady's gonna be like,
get me somebody, you know, whodo you not like?
You know, are you having troublein school?
She comes as like a hero becauseall abusers do that.
Yeah, they come as like the heroand solve your problem, but then
he was absolutely innocent inthis.
She just terrorized him and waslike, Don't talk about me.

SPEAKER_03 (31:39):
Yeah, he had to just go along with it because he
cared about his parents.

SPEAKER_01 (31:43):
Did you notice that she is possibly not even fucking
related to him?

SPEAKER_03 (31:47):
I didn't gather that.

SPEAKER_01 (31:48):
So basically dad, as he's talking to uh his son in
the car, right?
He's like, Oh, yeah, I rememberhaven't seen her in like 15
years, right?
And then he's talking to hiswife, you know, we haven't seen
her in like so long or whatever.
Um, and then what does she sayto the kid?
Oh, I haven't seen you since youwere just a little baby or
whatever.

(32:09):
Oh, he's not 15.
Yeah, no.
Um, and then there's also likeWhoa, I didn't catch that.
Um there's hints about like whatshe really is, like throughout
the movie.
I just remember all this rightnow, like it's been like a week,
but I did a bunch of stuff, likeI watched a bunch of videos on
it.
But um the what they werelearning in school, like when

(32:30):
she showed up, they werelearning about parasites.
What the principal and hishusband were watching, it was a
thing about the antice parasitesright?
The cordyceps.
So I think she was literallyjust a parasite, like she
implants memories or somethinginto your like brain to make you
think that she's supposed to bethere, you know?

SPEAKER_00 (32:52):
That is an interesting take.
I didn't catch that.
You got me on.
I didn't even catch how theyhadn't seen him in 15 years, and
this boy is like eight.

SPEAKER_03 (33:04):
Yeah, yeah.
No, I mean, yeah, I mean, maybeeven younger than that.
That that yeah, that alone rightthere is enough for me to 100%
believe that.
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (33:15):
And like relatable on his part.
You remember being in a kid, andthen they're like your parents
are like, Hey, look who it is,and the fucking just a random
person.
Hey, kid, remember when I washolding you as a baby when you
didn't have memories?
You remember good times?

SPEAKER_03 (33:31):
It's like even to this day, man.
I swear, still to this day, I'llrandomly meet family members who
are like, Oh my gosh, I haven'tseen you since you were like
three.
Do you remember me?
No.
No, why would how would Iremember?
Do you have memories at threeyears old?
How would I remember?
Bitch, I remember eating memory.

SPEAKER_01 (33:50):
Get out of here.

SPEAKER_03 (33:52):
My first memory was when I was like four, brushing
my teeth in a shower.
That's my first memory.

SPEAKER_01 (33:59):
Yeah, no, I I became sentient playing Sonic the
Hedgehog.
I became sentient.
Yeah, no, like I gainedsentient.
How old were you?
I I like maybe three or four.
I don't know.
I don't really remember.
But that's like my first memory,is just sitting, and like I
wasn't even fucking playing it.
And I think there I remember itwas like I was being like

(34:21):
babysat and I was just likesitting watching the screen,
like watching Sonic do hislittle toe tap because he was
just standing there.
Like I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (34:30):
So do you think there's do you think there was
anything like I don't know howto word this, because maybe
maybe this is just a badthought, but do you think there
was anything like exhilaratingor exciting about the whole
situation to Alex that he was alittle more willing to go along

(34:50):
with?
Uh because like ultimately hewas going along with it because
his parents were at stake.
But there was like this, likethe way that she would just be
like, oh, today we're gonna dothis, and then this weird shit
would happen, exactly like shesaid, like, where she's like,
Oh, they're gonna come inspectthe house tomorrow, so we gotta
send the kids out.
And then he's standing therewith her on the porch while she
sends the kids out.

(35:11):
Like, do you think there wasanything in it where it's like
this is fucking creepy, butkinda cool?

SPEAKER_00 (35:18):
I mean, I I I I think it's absolutely horrific.
And I I gotta say, I kind ofliked the I don't know how to
say this right, but I kind ofliked how they made the link
between all of them that weirdrun.

SPEAKER_03 (35:32):
Mm-hmm.
The Naruto run?
Naruto.
It was Naruto run.
It was like T pose.
It was like a T-pose run.

SPEAKER_00 (35:39):
It was kind of strange though.
It was a strange running pose.
It was a huge and for how fastthey ran.
I mean, you need your arms torun that fast.

SPEAKER_03 (35:48):
It's a very iconic, like I think it'll become a very
iconic part of this movie.
It's a very uh what's the rightword I'm looking for?
Like that was a huge marketingpoint of this movie was that T
Pose run.
That it was all over everytrailer, every poster.
Like, that's what I knew thismovie as was the kids T-Pose

(36:10):
running.

SPEAKER_01 (36:11):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (36:11):
Now very um I see uh I see an expanded universe, uh
what do you call it?
A teaser that um Zach Krager ishinting at an Aunt Gladys
prequel to show her origins.
That would be cool.
Would you be interested in that?

SPEAKER_01 (36:29):
I'd be down because I feel like they kind of hint at
her being like older than youthink she is.
Uh-huh.
Like the reason that becauselike okay, so like when she's up
in her room and he like comesacross her and she's like
throwing up in the bowl.
You remember that?
Right.
I think that's because uh thelife force of uh his parents

(36:52):
wasn't enough to like keep heralive, and that's why she needed
all those kids, you know, kindof witchy shit, she's trying to
stay young.

SPEAKER_00 (37:00):
It's like they were too old.

SPEAKER_01 (37:02):
Yeah.
So I I think that's why but likeI wanna maybe she was in like
the witch trials or some shit,you know, like it'd be cool.

SPEAKER_00 (37:09):
No, I kind of I kind of get that because it was like
at first I'm thinking like, oh,this is cancer or something like
that, but no, there this couldjust be that she's you know 300
years old and living off of thethe vitality and life of other
people.

SPEAKER_03 (37:22):
I I'm just saying if I see an old woman walk in
looking like the Joker into myschool, I don't trust you.
Yeah, I don't care if you're thesweetest old woman, I don't
trust you.
If you walk out the houselooking like the Joker and that
doesn't bother you, I don'ttrust you.

SPEAKER_00 (37:38):
And her smile was very much like mine.
Oh yeah.
It wasn't it wasn't it wasn't uhwhat is the word comforting?
It wasn't easing.

SPEAKER_03 (37:47):
Yeah, when she the second she walked into that into
the principal's office, I Idon't trust you.
I don't care anything that yousay.
I'm sorry.
It it's that's a no for me.

SPEAKER_00 (37:57):
So we covered the thing on this podcast.
What we didn't cover uh are moreof uh John Carpenter's films.
Now we did talk about in thatfilm that that was a part of
John Carpenter's apocalypsetrilogy.
We never went on to any of theothers, which was uh the thing,
uh Prince of Darkness, and whenwhat is it?

(38:20):
Madness.
Um I can't remember the thirdmovie.
You don't you didn't I thoughtwe we brought this up in the in
the episode.
He did an apocalypse trilogy,and one of them was um Prince of
Darkness.
And one of the things that AuntGladys really portrayed well was
in that movie there was a scenewhere a person was being

(38:42):
possessed by the devil, and shedid that exact creepy smile that
Aunt Gladys did, where there'snothing warm about that kind of
smile, there's nothing easing,comforting, or disarming.
You know, you see that and youcan't help but wonder you're on
guard.
Yeah, how did the peoplewatching this, like for
instance, Marcus's husband, howdid he not put up his guard?

(39:05):
You know, as they say, it's thesurvival instincts of a peanut
butter and jelly sandwich.

SPEAKER_03 (39:09):
Yeah, well, I think that's like that's that's an
example of like too good of a ofa heart where you're like, oh,
I'm gonna assume always thebest.
Exactly.
No instincts to just be like, Idon't care who you are, that's
not it was normal.

SPEAKER_00 (39:28):
A TikTok video this week I saw of a woman feeding a
bear by hand.

SPEAKER_01 (39:33):
Oh my god, I seen that too.
Did you?
Yeah, it's it's like she hasthere's like two fucking bears
and she's on the porch.

SPEAKER_00 (39:40):
That's that's what they said was this is uh the the
survival instincts of a pigeon.
Literally.

SPEAKER_03 (39:45):
It's like yeah, look, I'm a huge animal lover,
but with that comes a knowledgeof what animals can do and how
unpredictable animals can be.

SPEAKER_00 (39:55):
And and it's also you can't feed bears because
they're naturally lazy, they'regonna.

SPEAKER_03 (40:00):
Keep coming back.

SPEAKER_00 (40:00):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (40:01):
Don't do that.
Like honestly, don't feed anyanimal that you don't want to
keep coming back.

SPEAKER_00 (40:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (40:07):
The same with like cats.
If you feed a cat, it's gonnakeep coming back.

SPEAKER_00 (40:11):
You know that's why they don't care up in Alaska.
They have spots where you canactually go and see the bears
because it's at the dump.
It's at the landfill.

SPEAKER_03 (40:18):
There they got food.

SPEAKER_00 (40:19):
And they go and they eat there, and you can stand
there on the railing and throwthem food because the bears will
always come back to that spotand get food.
So they're not gonna come toyou.
You know what I mean?
You're gonna be back at yourcabin somewhere.
They're not gonna follow youthere.
They're gonna go back to thedump.

SPEAKER_03 (40:36):
You know, that's similar to why they say uh um,
they say don't feed feral cats,leave out milk.

SPEAKER_00 (40:41):
Yeah, that's what I say.

SPEAKER_03 (40:43):
Because they they drink it, it fills them up a
little bit, but then they'llkeep hunting in your area.
So they'll stick around yourarea, but they're not gonna rely
on you for food.
Yeah.
So they they like their littletreat.
They get they get the sugar outof the milk, they they like the
taste, they enjoy it, but theystill have to hunt.
So they still help you byhunting rats and stuff in your

(41:04):
area.

SPEAKER_00 (41:05):
The suggestion is don't put out um milk, cow's
milk, put out pet milk.

SPEAKER_03 (41:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (41:10):
It's better for them.

SPEAKER_01 (41:11):
Um, not gonna lie, though, if like a bear or
evaporated milk is all likesweet and nice to me, you know,
just like walks up on me one dayand it's like trying to, you
know, get some pets.
I might risk it for the biscuit.
Like, because like who's whowho's gonna say, you know, who's
gonna say I pet a bear, youknow?
Just pretend you're Russian, andthen I think just naturally the
bear will be.

(41:32):
You brought up Alaska and Bears.
And isn't there did have youever heard of that dude who was
like, I guess, friendly withbears or something up in Alaska?
Yep, and he like recorded hisdeath.

SPEAKER_00 (41:44):
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (41:44):
And apparently a friend of his or somebody.
Somebody has the recording, butlike will never like release it.

SPEAKER_00 (41:52):
Well, I'm glad.
There's no reason to.

SPEAKER_03 (41:54):
Yeah, no, it's like it's fucked up, but like you're
a little curious, except asmaybe a a warning not to do
that.

SPEAKER_00 (42:00):
I mean his death is a warning.
Uh you don't you don't need towatch him get mauled by a
grizzly, you know what's gonnahappen.

SPEAKER_01 (42:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (42:07):
Don't a lot of oh and a lot of oh my fucking god,
you know?
Like I don't know if it was alot.
Dogs happen pretty quick.

SPEAKER_03 (42:16):
Dogs alone can be incredibly deadly and dangerous.
Like as somebody who works withdogs and who has been in the pet
industry for eight plus years,it it can be very dangerous.
Certain dogs can be veryunpredictable.
I mean unpredictable.
I put in quotes because it's ifyou read body language, there's
very few dogs that are actuallydo something unpredictable.

(42:39):
Yep, and then there's most ofthe time there are signs.

SPEAKER_01 (42:42):
Rage syndrome and shit.

SPEAKER_03 (42:43):
Yeah, there's very few, like there's only one video
I've ever seen on Instagram,which uh I felt validated
because there's this one accountthat I follow that uh I wish I
remembered his name, but he hewatches these videos and then he
gives his commentary on it.
And I remember watching thisvideo before I even saw his
commentary on it.
I watched this video of aRottweiler, um uh uh the woman's

(43:04):
in her car, and the Rottweilerhas his paws up on the window
and her window's down and she'spetting the Rottweiler, and the
the dog seems fine.
All the body language seemsnormal.
Out of nowhere, dog bites her.
And it's one of those situationswhere I I rewatched it like five
or six times, and I'm like, Idon't see any signs that this

(43:24):
dog is about to bite her.
His mouth is open, no hackles,no lip biting, no bat, no ears
going back, no whale eyes,nothing.
Yeah, no signs that this dog isabout to do anything, and he bit
her.
I'm like, I'm it's just soshocking because normally you
could find some signs.
And so I heard this guy'scommentary, and he was like,

(43:45):
This is the one video I've everseen where I genuinely don't
blame the person because I wouldhave done the exact same thing.
He's like, actually, I wouldn'thave because I wouldn't have
been petting a stray dog.
But at the same time, it's likethere was no signs that this dog
was about to do that.
And so, all that to say, like,it's not to say that an animal
can't be unpredictable, but partof an animal is that they are

(44:06):
animals.
Right.
You know, it you they don'tspeak English, you can't really
communicate with them like that.
Don't go petting bears andfeeding bears and shit.
Don't uh don't try to you're notuh Snow White.
Yeah, don't it's this is not aDisney movie.
Animals are real and they aredangerous.
Dogs can kill people.
Don't fuck with something thatweighs 30 times what a dog

(44:28):
weighs and has the bite forceway more than any dog.

SPEAKER_00 (44:32):
I mean, everybody has to have heard that that clip
of the woman calling 911 becauseher friend was getting mauled by
her chimpanzee.

SPEAKER_01 (44:40):
Dude, oh my god, that's horrible.
If anybody ever like if I'm atsomebody's house and like, you
wanna my my fucking petchimpanzee?
No.
Goodbye.
Nope.
No, because as soon as they seeme here, they're gonna be like,
damn, she really hates me now.
I guess I gotta kill the thingthat's taking all of her
attention, which is me.

SPEAKER_00 (44:55):
It's you know it's insane, you know, and and and
the way that they are so theyseem and appear so loving, but
the strength behind them, yougotta respect these animals,
man.

SPEAKER_03 (45:08):
That's what we say in in training and and in
rescues is that's a lot of dog.
That's to be and essentiallysaying, like, that dog is
powerful, right?
Don't fuck with that dog.
You're gonna get overpowered.
There was the I remember therewas this there was a shepherd
that I was just walking to akennel, and he he got a little
reactive and he started pullingand he made me dirt surf for a

(45:30):
little bit.
My feet had no traction.
I was just going with him for asecond before I was able to to
get my strength and and reel himin.
And once I got him in thekennel, I I I I told it was my
mentor, I told her I was like,that that's a lot of dog.
Yeah, that guy can overpower me.
I I don't I can't work with him.
I because he already had someaggressive tendencies.

(45:50):
I was like, if he decided to getaggressive with me, I can't stop
him.
Yep.
And I I think it's importantwith animals, especially when
you work with animals, you haveto know your limitations.
You don't want to be workingwith a dog who can overpower you
easily and has aggressionissues.
You you don't want to findyourself on the other end of a
of an aggressive dog.

SPEAKER_00 (46:09):
So here's just a uh here's just a funny moment from
my watching this movie.
Gladys tells Alex she's sittingat the table with him, and she
had them stab their face withthe forks.

SPEAKER_03 (46:21):
Oh yeah, that was awful.

SPEAKER_00 (46:22):
And she tells him, after she stops them, she tells
them, tells Alex, I can makeyour parents hurt themselves.
I can make them hurt each other,I can make them eat each other
if I want to.
Do I want to, Alex?
And I shit you not, guys.
I'm sitting there looking at thethe movie on the couch, and I'm
nodding my head no.

SPEAKER_02 (46:42):
No, no, I don't want you to say no.

SPEAKER_00 (46:44):
No, you don't you don't want to.
I was like that.
This this movie was verycaptivating to me.
Um it's funny that you say thatit was a little uh less than.
Um, I thought it was very welldone.
I do think that they missed someopportunity with TJ's point.
They could have gone hard withthe true story aspect with the

(47:07):
found footage.

SPEAKER_03 (47:08):
Well, I just think the the only thing is I think
they just revealed theantagonist too early.
I think they could have left alittle more suspense, maybe not
as much as signs, although Ithink signs did it flawlessly.
I but I think they just theyrevealed her within the first
hour of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 (47:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (47:26):
And it's like, well, at that point, then like I have
another hour of this movie whereI already know who the bad guy
is and what their whole deal is.
So like all the suspense, whichis most of horror, yeah, is is
already gone.
Yeah, and that was my onlycomplaint with the new.

SPEAKER_01 (47:42):
Now that I'm thinking about it, I kind of do
see the the whole you knowallegory for addiction and like
alcoholism and living withsomebody like that.

SPEAKER_03 (47:54):
How?

SPEAKER_01 (47:54):
Oh like So look at little kid, what's his name?
Main kid?
Alex.
Alex, right?
So look at Alex.
I was expecting you to look overat Alex.
Um so look at Alex, right?
I am looking.
Okay.
He you know what happens whenlike a kid lives with like an

(48:16):
alcoholic parent, you know, likethey're quiet, you know, they
like shit like that.
But then he also he has to likeprovide for the adults, you
know?
And he has to like go he goesshopping by himself, he has to
clean up after them, you know.
Like, do you you kind of see it?
I kind of see it.

SPEAKER_00 (48:37):
No, I I get that.
I get that the feeding them,cleaning up after them.
He had to clean the whole housewhen the police were gonna come
over, which I also think issomething legit.
An abuser would have the wholehouse cleaned up when guests are
gonna come, they're gonna put onthe appearance.

SPEAKER_03 (48:56):
So here's what I'm so here's my thought.
It's not like I walk around myneighborhood often, like looking
at people's windows and whatnot.
But I have a dog, I take walks.
You're telling me no one noticedthat this house suddenly had
newspaper covering every window,and nobody thought to be like,
you know what?
Yeah, in a nice neighborhood,you're telling me nobody was

(49:19):
like I might just alert theauthorities just to go check on
them.
Because that's not normal.
And it's not illegal, but it'sfucking weird.

SPEAKER_01 (49:31):
I would be a little suspicious.
I mean, yeah, all of a sudden,like this nice family in this
nice neighborhood starts fuckingputting newspapers on the
windows and just turns into atrap house.
Like, yeah.
Somebody's gotta say, I'd belike, none of the police stopped
checking on them.

SPEAKER_03 (49:49):
Like I'd be like, what what is uh what's happening
there, huh?
Why why is that why is thatgoing on?
But I'm okay.
I'm also trying to put myself inreal life, if I ever saw that.
If I was walking by a house andsaw that all their windows had
newspaper all over it.

SPEAKER_00 (50:04):
That it was nice one day, yeah, and very shortly
after.

SPEAKER_03 (50:08):
Do I legitimately think like maybe I should call
the police and just may like nonnon-emergency line, just call
them and be like, hey welfarecheck.
This is I I this might just be Imight just be wrong.
This might just be weird, butthis is fucking weird.
This doesn't seem right to me.
Like I'm trying to think, wouldI actually do that or would I
just walk by and be like, that'sfucking weird, and not really

(50:32):
think anything of it.

SPEAKER_01 (50:33):
And like the cops, right?
Because Gladys goes to likefucking talk with them and says,
Oh, I'm taking care of theparents.
They didn't look into that.
Yeah, to be like, Well, let mesee them.
Well, get let me see yourfucking papers, you know.
And like, you know, check inwith the dad has to have a job.

SPEAKER_00 (50:52):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (50:54):
Okay, that's a damn good point.
Right.
The mom and the dad, nobody'scurious what's going on with
them because they're not goingto work.

SPEAKER_00 (51:02):
Claim that he had a stroke.
She's the caretaker.
What what documents supportthis?
Because that has to be that hasto be documented in court.

SPEAKER_03 (51:13):
Where's medical power of attorney?

SPEAKER_01 (51:14):
Right.
Also, you're old as fuck.
How are you taking care of twofucking adults?

SPEAKER_00 (51:18):
Right.
So here's a little interestingpoint of fact for you, TJ.
Did you know that Jordan Peelwas very close to making this
movie with his uh monkey pawstudio?
Really?
I was very close.

SPEAKER_01 (51:33):
I feel like it could have turned out slightly good
better.

SPEAKER_00 (51:36):
He was seven million dollars under the offer from New
Line.

SPEAKER_01 (51:41):
I know he's fucking pissed too, because he just
released or he just produced umwhat's that him that I'm pretty
sure that movie fucking bombed.
It was like a football movie.
I didn't even hear about it.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 (51:54):
Check this out.
I I don't if he's pissed, thatmight not be why.
Because he made the offer, itwas seven million dollars less,
and he was ready to provide theamount of money through his
contractual back end, butUniversal was uneasy about the
budget and walked away.
And here's the really crookedpart.
I I don't know if crooked is theright word.
I don't want to be that strong.

(52:15):
We're gonna say controversial.
Peel and Krieger share the samemanager, and just recently Peel
released his management.
Oh, so you think he got mad thathe got mad that he was
representing both walk away.
I mean, he should have walkedaway during this this
bargaining.
He should have said, I can't, Ican't do that.
I gotta I can't represent both.

(52:35):
I gotta sub somebody in for you.

SPEAKER_03 (52:37):
Yeah, that's kind of shitty.
That sucks.

SPEAKER_00 (52:39):
But you know, I'm sure there's a story.
The other story that I'm I'mreading on IMDB, uh, the
principal and his husband's mealof seven hot dogs is a tribute
to Trevor Moore from his skitHot Dog Timmy on the TV show The
Whitest Kids You Know.
And I didn't know this part.
Trevor Moore passed away and hewas friends of Zach Krieger.

SPEAKER_01 (52:58):
Aw.
And didn't he?
I think I think he passed awayfrom drugs.
Oh, okay.
So I that that's another reasonwhy there's like the drug
connection.
Oh, speaking of drugs, you getstabbed in the face with three
needles.
What do you do?

SPEAKER_03 (53:11):
Yeah, dude.
Like I said, he got stabbed asecond time.
So mad, that was funny.
At that point, I'm like, he thatdrugie is so lucky he didn't
shoot him.
Cause oh my twice.

SPEAKER_01 (53:22):
Twice as insane.

SPEAKER_03 (53:24):
I'd be so upset.

SPEAKER_01 (53:25):
Technically four times because it's three
needles.

SPEAKER_03 (53:28):
Yeah, yeah.
So but also, but at the sametime, it's like, uh, I really I
did feel for the for the druggiethere because he he was being
haunted for a little bit there.

SPEAKER_00 (53:37):
So okay, so something that I will say about
this is that that was one of thescenes that I would classify as
humorous because I was told, youknow, reading reading up on this
movie ahead of time that I wasgonna laugh more than I was
gonna jump.
And one of the parts that I didkind of chuckle at was the
crackhead keep getting up andcoming after uh Archer.

SPEAKER_03 (53:55):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (53:56):
And he kept throwing him around.
I'm like, okay, come on.
All right, fine, and then all ofa sudden she comes up and just
blasts.
I was like, damn, but I waspretty upset that she put the
gun down.
Like I was so mad that like whatwhy do you assume that there's
no other threat near you?

SPEAKER_03 (54:12):
Yeah, I there was a couple times throughout that
that scene in the house whereI'm like, there are still bad
guys in the house, and you knowthere are.
Like, they didn't go up to helpAlex until it was already over.
I know.
I'm like, the child that'supstairs, you didn't think to go
help him.

SPEAKER_00 (54:29):
Which how did you not hear the the slamming of the
doors and like banging on them,breaking them down?

SPEAKER_03 (54:36):
I guess it's good that they didn't because then
they would have killed hisparents and ultimately they
survived in the end.

SPEAKER_01 (54:42):
Well, I think they're there was a little state
that they're in because he heBut you are you guys old enough
to know or young enough?

SPEAKER_00 (54:49):
I don't know the right way to say that.
Uh Matilda?

SPEAKER_03 (54:51):
Yeah, we know Matilda.
Well, I know Matilda.

SPEAKER_00 (54:53):
Uh was this a little Trudge Bull and Miss Honey?
I know much darker, but becauseapparently Trudgable and Honey
were related.
Yeah.
And so Alex went to go stay withhis nice aunt.
That's that's what I I that'swhat I got when the narrator
said that he went to go livewith his nice aunt.
I was like, oh, that's fuckingMiss Honey.

SPEAKER_03 (55:13):
Yeah, I mean, well, I wonder if the well here's kind
of like an interesting thoughtexperiment that there's no way
to really know, but I wonder ifthe parents would gain back
their their sense of self soonerthan the children would.
Or maybe the opposite.
Or longer.

SPEAKER_01 (55:27):
Yeah, maybe it'd be the opposite.
I think it's just it matters howlong they were under the like
spell.

SPEAKER_03 (55:34):
That's what I was thinking.
They were the first two, so theymight take even longer to come
back.

SPEAKER_00 (55:38):
And I wonder also if or if they even can.
If the ultimate result is death.
That's what I'm I'm kind ofthinking.
The ultimate result is death forall of them.
Like maybe Gladys was able tokeep herself alive as long like
throughout the natural life ofthe of the person, and then when
they died, she rapidlydeteriorated.

SPEAKER_03 (55:58):
And that's why she constantly needed more.

SPEAKER_00 (56:00):
That's why she yeah, that and I think that's also why
she got kids, because that gaveher the most longevity.
And getting that many kids musthave given her quite the boost
because there was also like I Igot the vibe of vampirism, but I
think it seemed to get strongeror like more healthy.
She only went out at night, butI kind of thought that was

(56:20):
possible because she was just sougly.

SPEAKER_03 (56:22):
Well, she no, she went out during the day.
She went to the school and thenshe went to the principal's
house.

SPEAKER_00 (56:27):
But wasn't that after she had already gotten the
kids?

SPEAKER_03 (56:29):
Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_00 (56:30):
Because like when she first moved in.

SPEAKER_01 (56:32):
The dad mentions like she looks rough.
Like she's not gonna last, youknow, a month.

SPEAKER_00 (56:40):
Yeah.
I bet she won't I w I bet shewon't be here more than a month.

SPEAKER_01 (56:44):
Yeah.
So she was probably like realcooked when uh she showed up
with her weird ass tree, which Ishe's like, carry this in for
me.

SPEAKER_03 (56:52):
Oh yeah.
No, I wouldn't allow someone tobring that tree in.
Oh man.
I don't know.
You bring a bonsai, sure.
You bring an aloe, sure.
You bring that you bring a deadash, I don't know.
I don't know if I'm letting thatin my house.
I I think just from a puredecoration, also spiritual side,
I'm okay.

(57:13):
Maybe that one stays.
But overall, I think I think agood movie, I would say eight
out of ten.
I I feel like some people wouldput it higher, but I think
that's pretty fair.

SPEAKER_00 (57:26):
I'd give it an eight out of ten.
I think it's fair.

SPEAKER_03 (57:29):
I think it was a I think it was a really good
movie.

SPEAKER_00 (57:31):
And I would watch it again.

SPEAKER_03 (57:32):
Yeah, I would.
I I I'd maybe give it some time,but I'd watch it again for sure.
If somebody if somebody were tosay like, hey, do you want to
watch weapons with me?
I'd be like, yeah, sure.
Sure.
Totally.
All right.
Well, uh, let me calculate thepoints.
I have come up with uh acalculated total.
Uh don't ask me for the numbers.

(57:53):
Uh are we ready?
Yep.
Alex!

SPEAKER_00 (57:57):
Yeah! I knew it because, you know, I'm just the
best.

SPEAKER_03 (58:01):
Well, one TJ was playing Minecraft this whole
time.

SPEAKER_00 (58:03):
But also, um We're not gonna we're not gonna bring
that part up.
It's just that I'm the best.

SPEAKER_01 (58:08):
No, I did like your input in this movie.
I'm I'm pretty sure it was uhbecause I was playing Minecraft.
I think I had the best way moreinput with stuff, you know.
I actually did research with themovie and you know all that.
But you know, it's fair, it'sfair.

SPEAKER_00 (58:22):
He did say with that, yeah, he did.
He did he did warn you, butthat's not why.

SPEAKER_01 (58:28):
But like hear me out.
It was winner's speech, winner'sspeech, Alex.

SPEAKER_00 (58:31):
I am the absolute best, and no, I'm just kidding.
I thank you all for making methe winner that I am, and
appreciate your dedication toWill You Survive the Podcast.
Want to remind you to check outour YouTube page where we're
starting to grow and get moresubscribers, and we have some

(58:53):
new playlists where we'reactually playing the podcast,
the full podcast episode withall of the small clips, uh the
shorts attached to it.
And we also have a new playlistcalled From Scratch where I show
you how you can use all of yourdry and canned goods so that you
can keep restocking them andkeep them all fresh.
So if SHTF, you can always haveyour stockpile ready to go,

(59:17):
fresh and uh for the taking.

SPEAKER_03 (59:20):
SHTF.
I had to I had to think aboutthat one, but that's fine.
I like that one.
Um TJ, I will say before beforeyour loser speech, I am
impressed with how you were ableto participate and play
Minecraft at the same time.
Um but loser speech?

SPEAKER_01 (59:37):
Um I I would say that, you know, it you did warn
me uh that I would you know, butI feel I feel like they're there
it's a you know a littleunfairness, but like, you know,
it's fine.
I get it.
I get it.
Uh Alex can pick some oldfucking movie, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (59:53):
Well I'm kinda thinking.

SPEAKER_01 (59:56):
Alex, do you see the screen?

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:00):
What?

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:01):
Look at look at the stream.
Do you see it?
Do you see the stream?

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:09):
You're a jerk.
Okay, so there is this movie.
It is also twenty twenty five.
I'm kind of thinking, how doesthis sound?
With death further strengtheningtheir bond, step siblings Andy
and Piper find themselveshastily placed into the foster
care system following a tragichome accident.

(01:00:30):
After all, Andy is not yet oflegal age to apply for
guardianship.
He must wait three long monthsbefore they move into their new
place.
Until then, the troubled youthmust behave himself as Laura, an
empathetic foster mom copingwith silent grief, offers to
adopt them both into hersecluded home in the woods.
However, there is something offabout the artificially
benevolent guardian.

(01:00:51):
Without a doubt, Laura wantssomething so bad she can taste
it.
The problem is, she must neverbend the rules or break the
circle, but just how far is shewilling to go to bring her back?
This is, I believe it was the uhthe case of a mom who is trying
to bring her daughter back fromthe dead, and she's gonna do
some kind of a ritual to theseis the movie called Bring Her

(01:01:11):
Back Unsuspecting Kid.
That's right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:14):
Okay, so that is made by the uh the same guys who
made Talk to Me.
Is it?
Mm-hmm.
I'm I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:22):
Well, I guess because I don't want to steal
Talk to Me.
If you're gonna pick that movie,I want to leave that for you.
But I think this should be ournext movie.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:29):
I heard that Talk to Me and Bring Her Back were both
really good movies.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:34):
Yeah, I would say that they're really good movies.
Talk to me is really brutal.
I have not seen Bring Her Backyet.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:41):
All right, well, good.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:42):
This is a I've heard Bring Her Back was like real
fucked up.
Funny story.
It really fucks you up.
Funny story.
I've heard So it was me, Maddie,was it is it my sister?
My sister and Clobert, Eric,right?
So me and Maddie, you know, wego to the weed shop, pick up
some edibles.
Maddie's like, hey, let's eatthem in the car, and then when
we get to the movie theater,it'll hit, right?

(01:02:06):
And we go to fucking talk to me.
Oh no, no, no.
And it starts hitting like maybehalfway through the movie, it
starts hitting.
And dude, like the amount ofbrutal this movie is plus high
does not fucking work out.
I was over here manualbreathing, and then there's like

(01:02:28):
a fucking kid hitting his faceon like the fucking shit and
wild.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:33):
So when Matt walked out, we were like forgetting to
breathe.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:37):
Yeah, I was like, I have to breathe, you know?
Oh shit.
So me and Matt walked out.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:41):
Was it because you were in you were in like so much
suspense?
Was it just like I didcaptivated?

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:48):
It was just too much.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:50):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:50):
It was just too much for the high.
It was crazy, and then we justwalked out and left my sister
and her cousin in there.
Okay.
Um but yeah, I rewatched.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:01):
Either of those movies.
Either of those movies I'd bevery excited to watch.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:05):
Well, should we try to do a uh a watch party?

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:10):
We can do a watch party, we just gotta you know
make the like when are we doingit?

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:14):
If you guys want to do it, absolutely.
I I genuinely don't know when Icould I don't think I could
commit to a time.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:22):
Oh no.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:25):
But if I'm available when you guys do it, I'll
absolutely do it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:29):
Alright.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:30):
I'm just I'm scheduling six days a week and
working six days a week, so tobe continued then.
To be continued.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:36):
With that, should we give them our socials?

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:39):
Yeah, uh Alex, you know those.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:41):
Everybody, go check out our socials.
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SPEAKER_03 (01:04:31):
If we were on your Spotify wrapped, you should 100%
tell us, and we will shout youout because that would be super
awesome.
And please post it and tag us.
That'd be super crazy andawesome.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:45):
You know, we would 100% shout you out for that.
Also, I I failed the speed run.
I I got to the nether and I wasgetting blaze rods, and I
fucking died.
Oof.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:56):
I'm gonna post some.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:58):
And that's why you lost.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:59):
I'll be posting some B-roll from uh when we went
shooting.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:04):
Ah, I wish I got to go.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:06):
That was fun.
That was a lot of fun to go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:08):
I love shooting guns.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:11):
We went through a lot of ammo.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:13):
Yeah, I bet.
Alright, well, thank you,everybody, for listening.
Uh, thank you, Alex and TJ, forjoining me for this episode and
for watching this movie.
I hope you guys enjoyed thisepisode, and I hope you guys
enjoyed this movie because itwas a pretty damn good movie.
Uh, and with that, we will talkto you guys in the next episode.

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Stay alive.