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Hey there, music lovers! Welcome back to another exciting episode of the Wisconsin Music Podcast. This week, we're diving deep into the vibrant rock scene with none other than Abaddon's End. This band is a powerhouse of talent and passion, featuring Kyle and Steve, who kickstarted the journey six years ago, and later welcomed Adam (aka Bach) on vocals, Tim on guitar, and most recently, Cole on keys.

These guys are on fire! Since their revamped lineup in December 2022, they've penned 15 songs in just seven months and hit the stage with a full set list after only four months of rehearsals. Their sound is a unique blend of diverse influences, aiming to create music that resonates deeply with their audience. And guess what? They scooped up not one, but two Whammy Awards this year for Best Song of the Year and Best Rock Song of the Year. Impressive, right?

In this episode, we get personal with the band members as they share their individual journeys into music. Tim, the guitar player, grew up immersed in bluegrass, while Kyle's musical roots run deep with a family band from the age of six. Cole, the keys player, discovered his passion through piano lessons and a love for Guitar Hero. Bach, the vocalist, has been singing since he could talk, with a rich history in choir and collaborations with notable artists. Together, they form an unstoppable force in the local music scene.

We also delve into their creative process. From writing songs at lightning speed to rehearsing rigorously before recording sessions, Abaddon's End is all about authenticity. They record without backing tracks, ensuring that what you hear live is what you get on their records. Their dedication to their craft and their fans is truly inspiring.

Abaddon's End isn't just about making music; they're about creating connections. They value their fans immensely, treating them like family and ensuring everyone feels a part of their journey. Their live performances are high-energy, unforgettable experiences that leave you wanting more.

So, tune in to hear their story, their triumphs, and their heartfelt gratitude towards their supporters. And don't forget to check out their upcoming EP, set to drop around August or September. Stay tuned for more amazing music from Abaddon's End, and keep supporting local talent!

Thanks for joining us on this musical adventure. We hope you enjoy getting to know Abaddon's End as much as we did. Keep rocking, Wisconsin!

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(00:00):
Music.

(00:11):
Welcome to the Wisconsin Music Podcast. This week we have Abaddon's End,
which consists of Kyle, Steve, who started this about six years ago after playing
in multiple bands for the past 30 years.
After years of development and growth, the band had replaced vocals and guitar
with Adam, which is known as Bach, on vocals and Tim on guitar in December of 22.

(00:33):
The band has hit the ground running, writing 15 songs in within seven months
and playing a full set list after four months of rehearsals.
It has different influences that create their own sound. Ultimately,
they want to make music you can feel.
And on top of that, they won two Whammy Awards this year, one for Best Song

(00:54):
of the Year and Best Rock Song of the Year.
So guys, welcome to the Wisconsin Music Podcast.
What's up? We also need to add into that bio, we added Cole to the band on Keys
about two months ago. Okay, excellent.
Cole, how are you doing today?
I'm doing pretty good. How are you doing? I'm doing good. So the first question
to all of you is, how did you guys get into music personally?

(01:17):
It can be like a short little summary.
Just kind of let the listeners know how music became part of your life.
Tim here, guitar player. I grew up in bluegrass.
My dad played acoustic guitar in bluegrass and I was a little kid watching him
and then I started picking up the guitar.
He started showing me some stuff and it all started from there. Excellent.

(01:43):
Go ahead, Kyle. Well, I got a long line of music in my blood.
At the age of six, I started a family band with my dad and family.
We play out every weekend.
I was only six years old. I learned the ropes really quick.
Played a lot of shows. Music's just in my blood.

(02:07):
I love music, and anybody that does play it, I love listening to all sorts of music.
So um like i said i've been playing drums for many many years so i love it excellent,
cole what about you cole sure so
um unlike some of the other guys in the band i'm really
the first kind of musical person in my family um i guess my when i first started

(02:31):
kind of playing um i went to my cousin's house and they had a piano um we visited
one time i was just playing on it my mom was like oh he seems like he's got
that musical knack so then she uh got me into piano lessons so.
Started with that um then like right
around the time the guitar hero games came out that kind
of inspired me to start teaching myself the bass and the guitar a little

(02:51):
bit so um just played along
with that played in a couple bands um like high school
and college just doing some covers and stuff um but
really kind of just grew from there i guess
um really uh last couple
months leading up to me joining the band with the guys i
had put music down for a while just because you know focusing on

(03:12):
career and stuff like that but um kind of started
getting back into it been playing with some guys local players that
do like blues jam kind of thing um kind of
producing some of my own stuff on the side but uh just saw
that the guys are having this audition for the band and thought it
was cool gave it a shot and now we're here so excellent
awesome and col uh bach what

(03:34):
about you um i could i was singing before
i could talk so that's that's where it all started with
me um my family has
always listened to music been into it i was in
choir from day one all the way through high school i did
solo ensemble i went to state i got i think
28 medals for just different singing stuff in high school um i got out of high

(03:57):
school i moved to omaha nebraska i started working on some like hip-hop stuff
with a producer down there called ebabs um i got to work with him and a bunch
of uh really good artists i got to do a song with sid wilson from slipknot one time.
Um and then i moved up here because i was not in a good way down there so i
decided to move up into the woods to the to the lakes i got out of music for

(04:18):
about 10 years started a family about three Three years ago,
I wanted to get into music. I started reaching out to a whole bunch of people.
Everybody was kind of flippy floppy. So I decided that wasn't the route I wanted to go.
I got ahold of a friend named Derek Olson. He's in Raising Red,
a country band around the area and a folk band pretty much. And then, um.

(04:39):
He sent me a message and said, hey, look, this band's looking for a vocalist.
And here it said, Abaddon's End, looking for a vocalist that's ready to take
it to the next level. I came in the day, did an audition.
There was another vocalist that came in. He started doing some singing,
and I recorded the song, went out to my car, wrote the lyrics to the song,
came in, sang the whole song with the band.

(05:01):
The next day, I had a second song written for him.
We did the audition, and they had some more people coming in.
And they went outside, did a meeting, and called everybody off and told them I was in. Nice.
We hit the ground running from there in December of 22. And we started writing,
writing, writing. We played our first show on April 26.
And then from April 26 to April 1, we played 42 shows in that year. Wow.

(05:24):
Excellent. So where did Curtain Call Records come into play for you guys?
July. Yeah, that was around July. Because we were with Rock Solid Talent Entertainment of England.
And then we decided to move to Curtain Call.
Okay. And what has Curtain Call done for you guys positively?

(05:48):
Go ahead, Adam. They've opened some doors to getting us into some new venues.
They put us all – they're connected with Rock Rage Radio, so they've put us
all over the world on the Rock Rage Radio outlets, all the independent radios
that are hooked up with Rock Rage Radio.
We talked to John Weakley. He gives us great ideas for marketing.
He got us on Monster Hall Music Fest. He's opened the doors for us to get into

(06:12):
the annex and the back bar.
So it's just opening doors for us. And then it's up to the band to seal the
deal once the doors open.
But he opens the door for a lot of different things. He's got us interviews down in New Mexico.
He's got us interviews all over the place.
Okay. So basically they're helping you promote yourselves as much as possible. Yep. Excellent.

(06:37):
And then um was absent in adolescence which is i believe the song that you guys
won an award for this year for right yeah okay yeah so let's talk about that
and the album that it's coming from so first of all what's uh behind the song
absent in adolescence what's it about.
Absinthe Adolescence, it's the fourth song we ever wrote.

(07:02):
I kind of went into this. These guys write the music.
Usually I take it home. I listen to it. I absorb it. I listen to it over and
over hundreds of times, and then I start writing.
And this one, Tim wrote the riff for it, and then we all just started writing
together and got the whole song concrete.
I was sitting in the car, and all of a sudden it just kind of hit me what I

(07:24):
wanted the song to be about because it has this lower part and then it's got
this really rough chorus to it,
um and uh well my brother and i we had our father walked out on us when we were 11.
So the song is all about what me and my brother went through during that time
um so that was our first single we ever released um we don't have an ep out

(07:45):
we will have an ep out at the end of the summer we're gonna go record three
more songs in june to do that but yeah this song pretty much walks through
me walking up to the door knocking on the house finding the house empty and
what I went through as I developed through it and then towards the end of it
is me pretty much telling everybody,
when you're in the darkness just keep looking up because you'll find a way out

(08:09):
and uh I think this uh like I said on stage when I accepted the award it was
one of the lowest points in my life and I turned it into uh the whole experience
through art turned it into one of the brightest things I've ever been a part of.
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And it kind of goes with a lyric that I've heard, which is someone's heartbreak
is another one's favorite song kind of thing.
Yeah yeah so um so it seems like this song you guys had that kind of like the
music first and then you wrote the lyrics to it is that what happens with most
of your songs or is it kind of like 50 50 or how does that work for you guys

(14:15):
that happens to every single one actually,
we are we are pressure except pressure pressure i had a song stuck in my head in the car,
um i sat there i wrote the lyrics to it and i came in and we were just sitting
at our little round table we have little meetings before we do our practices
and i sang it to them and i'll All of a sudden, Kyle's like, I got the beat for that.
And we sat down, and we got that song. Tim, we write songs so fast, it'll melt your brain.

(14:40):
I think we were done with that song in like 30 minutes. Wow.
The chemistry we got going in this band is unbelievable.
Like I said, you know, I've been in music a long time, and I've been in a lot
of bands. I've traveled. I've toured.
I have not ever come across the chemistry we have right now.
It's unbelievable. We can write a song right now. It's just crazy.

(15:04):
Cool. So everybody's very talented and everybody can write. So that helps.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
So let's talk about the process of the album that you guys are working on.
You have two songs that you've released. You said you're going to go record three more.
So who are you going with? And kind of tell us the process that you guys go
through when you record something.

(15:26):
Go ahead, Kyle, or I'll talk too much. Yeah. Yeah. You want me to do it?
Yeah, go ahead. Well, basically what we do is we pretty much know we had the
fans pick out the one song, give them something, you know, whatever song they
like. We had a little cookout here.
Yeah, it was a fan appreciation day. Yep.

(15:49):
They all threw little names, you know, the band name in the little can,
and it turned out to be the Harlech, which is a, it's kind of a weird song.
Song, but I mean, it's like,
It's got a lot of old stuff in it, but they love it. So other than that,
pretty much we, you can kind of feel what's hot and what's not, you know.

(16:14):
We record down in Cedar Rapids, Catamount Studios.
Okay. Cedar Falls. No, it's Cedar Rapids, ain't it? No, Waterloo and Cedar Falls.
Oh, it is. Well, Cedar Falls, there we go. See how I went.
But uh we we uh do a lot of work with travis um he's he did uh who else walked in that studio,

(16:38):
he recorded stone sours first album yeah so you know he's got there's good experience
there and you want you know when you're recording a song that's your heart and
soul you want somebody there that knows what they're doing yes there's a lot
of recording places out there that come on
in, you know, and they may be cheap, but there's a reason, you know. Yep.

(16:59):
So be smart on it, you know. You got to be smart on that stuff because you're
going to be putting it out there for the world to hear.
So basically we got – it's going to be a rough one because I think – I believe
we play that Friday night, right?
Yeah, we play Kenosha at Make Music Day on the 21st. We pack up on the 22nd.
We're in Cedar Falls recording on the 22nd and 23rd.

(17:23):
So, but that's basically what we do. You know, we prep. Right now,
we'll probably decide as a band.
We always decide a lot of stuff as a band. You know, there ain't one leader
in this band. We all are leaders.
So, we'll sit down and discuss what they want. You know, what's Adam think?
What's Tim think? Steve? Coral?

(17:45):
Throw it on the table. And we usually come up with something, you know.
We do have a lot of good songs. and it's hard
to sort them out right at
this point yeah but um we just
sit down and decide you know as as a business it's your
business you know and uh sit down decide

(18:05):
what we want to do a lot of us are pretty easy going
you know so that helps too so um
and we record so excellent so
you guys know what's that kind of well it's
kind of building off of kyle's point too i think that that's part
of what um gives us a bit of our sound
and just kind of being a bit on i guess on the more unique

(18:26):
side i guess is that um you know we all do kind of
lean into each other and i think that you know drawing inspiration from
each other um it's just so how we can just kind
of think tank a lot of the stuff that we do and it's uh.
Just refreshing and this it just works it's
hard to to describe it yeah pretty much excellent so
um so it sounds like basically

(18:49):
what and you know obviously correct me if
i'm wrong but you guys rehearse well enough that when you go into the studio
you basically know exactly what you want to put down on the virtual tape and
you know what you're the end product you really want to know what that's supposed
to sound like by the time you guys walk out of that building yeah we have when

(19:10):
we have practices like for it,
So we practice every Sunday for eight hours.
And then when it comes down to recording, that is when we bite the bit and get
into it and really practice hard.
We like to play them out a couple times.

(19:31):
What's that? I said we like to play them out a couple times,
too. You know, we get the audience's reaction. They're your fans. They're your boss.
Right. you know and and speaking of um live performances what is your kind of
your perspective of the local scene positives and um things that need to be changed.

(19:55):
Um so the original scene is a lot of fun all the
bands that we play with for the local original music i
would say 90 of them are great people they're there
to help each other they're there to support each other they're there all the
way through i think the biggest thing that needs to
change is people need to get out
and support local original music music's

(20:18):
kind of at a standstill you're either getting programmed auto-tuned
music or you're getting tribute and cover bands which you know nothing against
if they want to pay tribute to that and stuff but they're not it doesn't feel
like you're pushing the envelope when it comes to pushing the music along i
mean I mean, the Led Zeppelins,

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the Slipknotts, everybody started as a local band. Yes.
So, I mean, get out there and just go watch some local music.
I mean, it's getting really hard for local bands to be able to even raise money
to get into a studio because you're competing with so much of,
you know, a bar wants to have three hours of music that everybody knows.

(21:02):
So they'll hire a cover band for like $3,000.
And you'll have an original band come in and play for an hour and we're lucky to get $100, $200.
Yeah yeah they've been paying that and what we do is work we're we're we're building music.

(21:23):
From the ground all the way up you know we're not
listening to somebody else and and replaying
the music that's already made yeah yeah do you
feel like after you guys go into the studio you have
to relearn the song a little bit because
it's played a little bit differently in the studio or is it pretty
much it's exactly how you guys play it live we're

(21:46):
pretty close and the reason we're pretty close is that
we don't have the backing tracks we don't have all that stuff everything we
make is the way we play it so there's no added stuff you know and we like to
keep it that way because if you listen to the song and then you go to a place and hear us you're like

(22:07):
who's this band what what's not you can't even recognize
it it's like oh come on here you know so we
try to keep it and i think we're we're pretty close dead nuts on excellent excellent
that's good for listening like kyle said we love that live feeling you know
when you sometimes you know you want you go see a band and you're like you want

(22:29):
to hear the song that you like to hear.
But sometimes when you get a little different flavor because it's
being played live and we don't have a backtrack so
we're not completely in sync with
something we have to follow we screw up all the time live and we look at each
other we smile we love it since we got a keyboard and nothing to follow we can
just build off of it and it's i mean if you watch us live you'll see us just

(22:53):
smiling at each other it's it's an awesome feeling awesome awesome so that's.
Sorry that's okay well go ahead go ahead cole
i didn't catch that sorry i'm in a hotel so
the internet's pretty slow but um yeah i think we
we really lean into that live feel because you know when we we do play out we
do kind of you know we lean a bit into the audience we lean into each other

(23:16):
and you know depending on like where the energy is um a lot of times we play
we'll finish our songs we have like a of a lot of our sets we have like a big
kind of grand finale um and not
having something that's as pre-programmed.
It's a bit more fluid, so we can kind of use that and leave it open-ended,
and it gives us more creativity there, so we can kind of just,

(23:38):
something starts to go, you know, we just kind of let it fly and let it rip pretty much, and .
Music.

(26:29):
So here is a question for each individual, and just a quick response is fine.
Who are your two major music influences in what you play?
Buddy Rich for drums. I would say, you know, the corn drummer, Ray.

(26:52):
Ray's great, man. So that's my two. Okay.
I always have to say Mark Tremonti and James Hetfield. Wonderful.
Cool.
That's kind of a hard one.
Trying to think. If I had to think of two, I would say,

(27:18):
I guess kind of where I draw some influence from is like the hybrid theory and Meteora era,
Lincoln can park and then um like jordan fish
uh bring me the horizon kind of style with the synths and
things like that good answers excellent thanks
and bach what about you um
i'm gonna cheat vocally influences most

(27:40):
um i would say uh maynard james keenan
and uh aaron lewis it's entertainment wise on
stage it's cory taylor and
uh man i'll just
say metal and hardcore scene their vocalists are everywhere they don't stand

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still that's how i am live i'm i first song if people don't come to me i'm out
in the crowd i'm on top of speakers i'm i'm everywhere excellent Very cool.
You'll look up for a second, then Adam will be running outside of our show.
Your show isn't really boring, it sounds like. No.

(28:26):
High energy. Everybody has a great time. It's a party. Looking at each other, where did Adam go?
You see him out in the mosh pit. Yeah.
So, as we're wrapping this up, do you guys find it difficult to balance work-life balance?

(28:51):
It could be. You know, I, myself, I try to manage everything.
So, you know, family, work, you know.
I think if you manage it correctly, it pulls through pretty good for me.
So, I don't know about you guys, but you got to manage it. You got to have time

(29:11):
for stuff. And we do take time for stuff.
Managing your time and make sure you're having your family involved.
Um, interact with the band and do stuff with the band as well. Uh, work.
I have a great job, so no problem there.

(29:33):
But it's mainly family. Get them involved of what you're doing.
It makes it a lot easier. I've got a wonderful work schedule that doesn't make
it that difficult, except I run all the social medias, all the website, all the emails.
So you'll find yourself at work going, there's a notification for this,
another notification for that.

(29:54):
You know, as far as family, I can't complain. My family is so wonderful.
My in-laws, my mom, all of them are, you got a show this weekend?
We'll watch the kids. My son, he'll come with. We'll work the merch booth.
My wife's been to like almost every single show. So you just when you decide

(30:14):
you want to do a band, you've got to decide if you want to do it for a hobby
or if you're trying to make a career of it.
And then you have to communicate, communicate, communicate, let them know this
is what I want to do with my life.
And this is the direction that we're heading.
You know, it's it's it's what it's that's what it's all about. I mean.

(30:38):
Cole, how about you?
I mean, I would just kind of echo like the same points that the guys are saying.
It's really important about finding that balance and then kind of prioritizing,
you know, what the important things are, you know, and being available for different
opportunities and things like that.
I'm kind of in a unique position now where I'm going through like a bit of a career change.

(31:01):
Change so um definitely looking for something too that kind of offers the flexibility
that allows me to to be available for the band and like some of those things as well and um,
it's like i said just kind of you know focusing on what's important and then
making time for you know the personal stuff and um just to create the creativity
and stuff and then um as far as family and things like that go um you know relatives

(31:25):
friends get them involved you know have them
come out to shows do some street team-esque work
i guess you could say promotion um you know my fiance actually
does some photography photography work for
us at some of the shows so it kind of helps out with that and just you know
getting people involved and it's really like um you know if we all succeed it's

(31:46):
just that it's it helps everybody you know just makes all of us better at what
we do so excellent because that's what we all want to do we want to play and that's That's it.
And we're getting close. So we just got to keep our blinders on and keep moving ahead.
Exactly. Exactly. Now, one of the last questions I ask is a gig or a performance

(32:10):
that you saw that was a big impression on you.
Either you on the stage or you seeing something up on stage.
And let's start with Cole first.
Okay.
These are tricky questions. I would say I'm going to throw kind of a curveball,

(32:30):
but I used to live in Austin down in Texas, and there was always a bunch of
live music going on down there.
But there's a Japanese rapper and his name is Shingo, too.
And he worked on a few projects with a producer, Nujabes.
Um and they did like kind of a tribute slash
um memorial kind of tour with a

(32:51):
jazz band and like that was kind of the first time i'd really seen
uh you know people kind of like
really improvising kind of like leaning into each other um
and just kind of feeling that type of energy i just
remember that show and i think back to that being like
that my first experience like picking that up um
and just really kind of like inspired me creatively to you know

(33:12):
not really think of music as much as
a binary you know we have to structure a b c go from this this this and this
and just kind of like a live example of like the you know getting in that pocket
and just getting that groove and leaning into each other and that i think really
was what kind of inspired me to go back in the direction of you know picking
up music again is just seeing that synergy and that kind of,

(33:35):
magic, I guess you could say, and that's kind of really what,
that was really a, I guess you could say inspirational.
I could probably think of a better word, but that's, I would say that was probably
one of the things that the performances I saw that really kind of opened my
mind up in different ways. Wonderful.
Excellent. I guess mine would be we went on Shiprock quite a few years ago.

(33:59):
And it's just a cruise with all types of bands
in Alta Bridge and Seven Dust was playing
and you're walking on the same ship with those guys
and they're eating breakfast with you just bump into them and beat them but
when Alta Bridge got on stage and watching them play and seeing everybody just

(34:19):
getting into the music that's when I said that's what I want to do just seeing the people.
Get so rowdy and getting into the music is just yeah watching them guys play
it was awesome excellent.

(34:41):
Bach bach bach i grew up
on stage wanting to be on stage with choir and
all that stuff um i've seen slipknot 19 times um
one of the times that made me realize um that
i could do kind of heavier your music i seen bring
me the horizon at soulful underground in omaha nebraska on

(35:02):
one of their big tours after suicide season there was 100 people
150 people there got to the front of the crowd
i started screaming at oliver sykes during his song suicide season and he gave
me the microphone let me finish the song for him wow and then um three weeks
before after my 10-year hiatus three weeks before two weeks before i found the

(35:23):
post to come try out for a band zen my wife surprised me
and took me to the plot and you uh show and um
i'm 34 years old in the mosh pit running around
screaming my head off and singing and multiple
people just kind of stopped and looked at me and it was kind
of that was kind of a moment like all right i still got

(35:44):
this let's let's try to do this yeah excellent i
guess my big thing is
you know my whole life my dad was in a rock band and i used to watch them drummers
you know and i stumble around and i get up on the drum set and i'd play a little
bit you know um so i kind of grew up with a lot of rock um the biggest impact.

(36:10):
That that i had so far in my career is
the whammies man i was a basket case
i've never won anything in my life and you know we got up on that stage and
i'm like i i gotta pinch myself i can't believe this you know and bach talked
he did a great job i wanted to

(36:30):
say something at the end and i walked up to that mic and i said thank you.
So i was a basket case it did
hit me hard um i think all the years of me
playing with different bands different stuff that all came to a head right there

(36:50):
so wonderful after we got the award man it was i was shaking all honestly all
i could think i love like all of these guys i gave them all a hug but in the
back of my head all i could think was I couldn't wait to call my brother.
I called him, I told him, I told him the acceptance speech, and we both started

(37:11):
just fucking bawling. Yeah.
Very cool. Yeah, it's emotional, man. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
You work so hard to, you know, write this music and put your all into it,
and you get recognized for it, and that's a great thing. You got it.
Any last words before I let you guys go? Well, we love our fans.

(37:33):
Fans thank you for the podcast um bock thank
you so much wisconsin music podcast for having us
on thank you uh thank you to
all our fans for everything they do to us for us to to us for us for coming
out to the shows we i say this all the time we're not a normal band we're not

(37:53):
a we don't when our fans come up to us and meet us we don't just like shake
your hand And we embrace our fans. We give them all hugs.
We have people that, like, we'll go to a different state. You know,
Midwest people, we hug each other.
We're very cordial with each other. We'll have people look at us like,
what's going on here? Because we're Midwest.
We appreciate the people that support us so much because this is a dream of

(38:17):
ours, and it doesn't go without all of you.
Yep, well said. Excellent. I will put your links in the podcast show notes so
people can go and check you out on social media and check out your tour dates
because when this comes out, it'll probably be like late summer.
So you probably will have like fall dates and everything hopefully up for them to check that out.

(38:41):
And once again, congratulations, gentlemen, on the two Whammy Awards this year.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
Look for that EP around August, September. We'll have it out. Perfect.
Thank you so much for being on the Wisconsin Music Podcast, and I will be looking
forward to the stuff you guys are going to be doing in the future.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

(39:01):
Have a great one. You too.
Well, thanks again for tuning in to another episode of the Wisconsin Music Podcast.
Once again, I'm Zach Foeh, your host and creator of the Wisconsin Music Podcast,
where I love to amplify the great sounds coming out of the Wisconsin State.
We have great talent here, great support great listeners
thanks to fox city's indie radio

(39:24):
for syndicating this on thursdays and sundays along
with their other great programmers so make sure you check out the fox
city's indie radio thanks so much to kyle steve tim and bach of abiding zen
being on the wisconsin music podcast once again another great group out there
playing fantastic music make sure you go and check out one of their shows coming

(39:45):
up very soon here in Wisconsin and in the surrounding areas.
For those of you who are new to our show, the Wisconsin Music Podcast is dedicated
to showcasing the incredible talent
of Wisconsin-based musicians and the thriving local music community.
Our episodes drop every Tuesday on all streaming platforms and YouTube.
Additionally, you can catch our episodes on Fox City's Indie Radio every Thursday

(40:08):
at 6 p.m. and Sunday at 3 p.m.
If you'd like to be on the show, just go to wisconsinmusicpodcast.com,
fill out the guest request form up at the top, ask for your email and your name,
and then I'll send you an auto email asking you for more information.
If you are enjoying these episodes, please consider donating to the Wisconsin Music Podcast.

(40:28):
Podcast donations help pay for the website and putting
the podcast up on streaming services and also
getting our name out there to all wisconsinites and
others that are interested in our great music here in wisconsin donations are
secured through paypal and stripe all you have to do is go to the website and
click on donate to wmp you can also head over to our instagram and facebook

(40:51):
pages and like us there leave some comments also go to the podcast review
section of your podcast player and leave a five-star review would be great you
could also head over to youtube and watch the interviews and leave comments
there as well have a great week everybody and we'll see you next time thank
you for tuning in and we'll see you next week with another fantastic episode

(41:12):
on the wisconsin music podcast.
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