June 11 show: Brewers Struggle, Packers Release Alexander, and NCAA's New Settlement

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I'm your host, trage, comingback for this June 11th edition
of the show here and I hope youguys had a fantastic weekend.
I hope you guys had a fantasticweekend.
It was a good weekend formyself.
I mean the weather was hit ormiss.
I mean it wasn't supposed torain on Saturday.
We had a tournament down inNealsville over the weekend.
They're got the wind, the boysgot the win.

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The boys got the win down there.
So that was awesome.
My coach 12U baseball over here.
So I mean got the win down inNealsville, the tournament win,
so that was awesome.
Uh, congratulations to thoseboys out there, but got that win
.
It was a good weekend all theway around.
I mean we a lot of grilling, alot of smoke.
Well, we don't do a lot ofgrilling, we do a lot more of
the Traeger.
Right, the Traeger was out thisweekend so we had the Traeger
out there.
We were smoking up just abouteverything you can smoke up
chicken.
We had steak yesterday.
Goodness, we had all right,it's been.
Traeger's been running non-stop.

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It seems like every weekendthat thing is running non-stop
there.
So it was a great weekend.
I hope you guys enjoyed yourweekend there, but we have lots
to get into.
It was a busy weekend for sports.
Right, the Brewers well, it wasa series you almost want to
forget against the padres theoffense.
Sometimes I'm looking at thisyear for the brewers they're

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putting up a lot of stats thatyou don't want to put up, a lot
of numbers that historical, likeoh, the brewers have done this
for the first time and when Ilook at them it's like, uh, this
isn't a good first time they'veever done this.
I want to get into the Brewerstoday because that was, I don't
want to say, a terrible.
I didn't come off that seriessaying to myself, wow, this team

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sucks.
But I came off this seriessaying, oh boy, there's a lot of
still unknown question marks,hot, cold.
We got to get into it.
I asked a question out there onFacebook.
I want to get to a lot ofpeople's answers that they had
there a little bit of a mailboxopen there.
A lot of answers.
We had to the question aboutthis brewers team as of late, so
I want to get into that.
We have the ncaa.

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What a crazy weekend for thencaa.
I that the settlement was made.
Now universities will be payingplayers directly, so that
that's opening up a new Avenue,maybe kind of.
Maybe it's going to affect thetransfer portal, you know, maybe
it's going to kind of settlethat down.
So I want to get into that.
Today here on the show, I wantto talk about the this new
settlement that the NCAA hadwith the house there.

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So I want to get into that.
We have NBA finals talk to getto Kyle's going to jump on later
in the show.
Here we're going to talk NBAfinals and then we got Umber.
We're going to talk Packersbecause another big news coming
off the weekend Not really it'smore on Monday there, but over
this.
Uh, on Monday we had JairAlexander being released early
in the morning, kind of asurprise.

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And over the weekend there wasthe contract.
They they sent.
There was the contract.
They sent out another contract.
They said this is what we'regoing to offer.
You Take it or leave it.
Basically, take it or leave it.
And Jair's camp said no.
So the Packers officiallyreleased Jair Alexander.
And is it really the worst thingin the world?
Is it really the worst thing inthe world?

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Let me know what you think.
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We got to get to it right offthe bat Because when I come in
on this Wednesday, there isalways it's not even just on
Wednesday, it's every single dayof the week there is something
grinding my gears and it justit's like it boils me.
Right now I only have this oneday a week where I get to talk
about it.
So where people just they theyhave to listen, right, so I

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think they have to listen Right.
Where people just they have tolisten, right, so I think they
have to listen right.
That's where I'm kind of at now.
So what was grinding my gearscoming off of a weekend?
So the big thing.
I guess that was grinding mygears.
So I was watching and I don'tknow if anybody you know I don't
really watch college softballup until the World Series, the

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Women's College World series inthe in the regionals.
When you get into there, then Istart watching.
Right, my wife will be watchingit.
She watches basicallyyear-round whenever it's on,
whenever you get to it, andthere's nothing else on, uh, but
we really start watching whenthey get in deeper into
tournament play and watching thewomen's college world series
for texas tech.
A great pitcher there for TexasTech I just I'm blanking on her

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name right now, but she pitchedmultiple, I mean multiple, games
in a row, multiple games in arow there.
I will see if I can findNigeria Kennedy, that's what it
is.
Nigeria Kennedy is her name andshe pitched multiple games in a
row for Texas Tech.
I think she before, since theSuper Regional, I think, which

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is I mean we'd have to go backgame by game, but nobody else
had pitched for Texas Tech,essentially until they played
Texas in the third game of theWorld Series there.
And then she just got lit up.
Lit up and this is where thepart that grinded my gears.
Okay, I get so sick of watchingthe same thing over and over

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again.
I do right, it was Clemson andAlabama football.
Every single year, I get sickof that, the same, and I
understand, because I getexplained to this by softball
fans when I even make us thinkabout it.
Oh well, it's not the samemotion on the arm so it doesn't
strain their arm.
It's like a baseball pitcher,right, I get that, that's fine.

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I still want to see some kind ofI don't know if you do an
innings limit, I don't know ifyou do a pitch limit.
Whatever it is, I still thinkend of the day, you find out who
the best teams are by seeingwhat they have after the ace.
I remember high school baseballin Wisconsin here.

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I don't know Anybody wholistens back on the podcast make
sure you're doing it next daythere but anybody who listens
back and hears this.
I don't know what you guys'regulations are in your states,
but there's a pitch limit nowand you have to sit out a
certain amount of days.
And I honestly thought whenthey did that, yes, it's to
protect arms and it's to keepeverything like that, but I
thought honestly it affectedteams to the point where now you

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had to have three to four guyswho could pitch.
Right, that's what I saw it asI just don't when watch texas
just dismantled texas tech inthat final game and I just don't
feel like texas tech.
Their other arms never threwafter the super there, after the
super regional.
It was just her.
She was the only one throwing.
She threw multiple games in herhealth.

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They needed she'd throw a gamethere, a game there, right, they
had elimination.
Whatever she'll be the one tothrow it.
And it just they.
They didn't know how to winwithout her.
Without her on the mountain,they just don't know how to win.
And without her at her best.
And Texas and you know Texas,texas coach, he drove me nuts
and he's like oh well, you know,she just ran out of gas, she
wasn't throwing, she wasthrowing just as hard as she was

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before.
Texas just figured her out.
After three straight days ofseeing her, they figured her out
.
Wow, can't believe it.
Just call a spade a spade whenit's there.
Man, she shouldn't have beenthrowing.
They figured out texas is toogood of a team they were gonna
figure out.
So I just I don't know, Iwatching that, I just it grinds
my gears that they don't havesome kind of regulation on that,

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because I just feel like at theend of the day, you didn't,
maybe you didn't get your bestteam because they didn't have to
throw different pitchers, theyjust had one one, their ace.
Just throw the million dollararm, right.
But you know, is Oklahoma abetter team.
They had a lot of arms getburned up.
We'll never know, right,because, yes, texas tech won
games to get there.
I'm not saying that they didn't, but it just watching her pitch

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every single game.
I just feel like maybe youdidn't get your best team in
there because you didn't getyour team with the most depth.
It'd be like imagine if ShoeiOtani could pitch right now.
He wasn't broken, he couldpitch and he could pitch every
single game.
Or I mean you'd have to gothrough the aces of different
teams right now.
Or I mean you'd have to gothrough the aces of different

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teams right now, but imaginethey could pitch every single
game without problem.
Nothing, it was just.
It worked out that way thatthey could pitch every single
game, 140 pitches and they werefine.
Baseball would get prettyboring.
You like the moves, you likethe.
You know you got to it'sstrategy, it's this and that
there's no strategy to throwingthe same picture out there every
single, just every single gameand just saying, screw it, I

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just don't see the strategy.
So I don't see you know?
Oh yeah, texas Tech.
I don't think that Texas Tech,I can't.
They're not going to try tolook up his coach's name right
now, but I don't.

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I think it a terrible manageror coach whatever you want to
call him of that team, but Ijust I don't feel like he's
strategically not the greatest.
That's what strategy whereyou're showing you didn't have
to pick and choose when you'regoing to throw arms and this,
and that you didn't have to.
You look at what Texas did ingame two and they were throwing
an arm and inning to throw himoff.
It's different.
There's no.
My white was using a littlemore strategy, this not so much.
So I I maybe people have otheropinions on that I just I just

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don't feel like if you have onearm throw an entire playoff,
you're really getting the bestteam at the end of the day.
Especially, I mean, she's darngood.
Like don't get me wrong, she isdarn a darn good pitcher.
She is very good.
That's how she shut outmultiple teams.
That's how she shut outOklahoma.
She's fantastic.
It's just I don't know if yougot the best team if she threw

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every single game.
So yeah, that's kind of where Iwas at with that one.
Outside of that, people tryingto buy an entire store out of
limited time items drives meabsolutely bananas.
So I know maybe some peopledon't like the Bush Apple, the
new Bush Apple that they haveout there.
But I was like, oh, you know,I'm going to go see if I can

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find one.
I always like to have just, youknow, a couple of cases,
because they're limited time.
You're like you don't get themall year round.
So I just like to have a coupleof cases and you know I'll sip
on them here and there.
They're not the greatest thingin the world, but I'll have one
every once in a while, right, ifI'm feeling frisky, right, you
gotta feel frisky every once ina while.
And I searched all over theplace.
Can't find it.
Finally found two cases.

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I was over over in chippewa, um, at the in-laws over the
weekend, spent couple cases overthere, but I couldn't find any
for the life of me.
And then I'm looking all oversocial media and there's people
with 60 boxes of them there andI'm like, well, no wonder why I
can't find any.
This guy's got them all, thisguy's.
It's just, sometimes peoplelike that just irk me.
They just irk me a little bit.
Um, so there was that.

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There was also the brewersplaying on the roku channel over
the weekend.
That was terrible.
That was absolutely terrible.
I mean, how many times I gottold I believe it was more than
10 times, it was probably closerto 15 that something's not

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right.
That's what it said.
Something's not right, that'swhat it said on the screen.
Something's not right.
And then, and then I exit outand go back in and then it would
go in there and then it wouldstart buffering.
It would just buffer, it wouldjust buffer and then all of a
sudden go and then buffer andthen go.
Finally, I was like I'll justlisten on the radio, right, and
then I had Josh Maurer tellingme that there is no arm in the

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outfield like Fernando Tatis.
He throws it better thananybody else.
And I'm like, dude, you are theBrewers radio announcer and you
haven't met Sal Frelick yet.
Welcome to the show.
It's Sal man, welcome to it.
I was like what are you talkingabout?
Man, jeff goes to TV for alittle while and the guys in the
radio get confused on evenwho's good at all.
It's crazy, it's justabsolutely crazy.

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So, roku, all those, I mean allcross sports, it's an issue.
I mean netflix had its issues.
We saw that.
I mean, what was that?
Mike tyson fight that time thatwas.
That was absolutely terrible.
I watched it on x.
I watched antonio brown streamof it.
I didn't even watch it on wherewas that?
I can't remember where that wasoff the top of my head, but I

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didn't watch it on there.
I ended up.
I can't remember where that wasoff the top of my head, but I
didn't even watch it on there.
I ended up watching.
Antonio Brown was there.
I just was scrolling throughTwitter and I seen Antonio Brown
live.
So I was like, ah, I'll checkout Antonio Brown, see what he's
up to.
You never know with that guy,right, he can be doing anything
at that point.
And all of a sudden he's livestreaming the fight.
He's got it up on the jumbotron, he's live stream.

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I'm like, all right, I'll watchit on here.
So I watched that.
It wasn't not like I missedanything if I wouldn't have
watched it, but got to watch iton there.
So I mean, it's just, all thesedifferent sports are trying,
like netflix and amazon primeand uh, peacock is a big one,
right and they get across thesedifferent platforms and
sometimes it works out,sometimes it irritates the fan
base and other times it's justit's a disaster.

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And right now we got Roku and Ithought that was a disaster.
I could have gone without it.
Maybe people were like, oh,finally, I can watch the Brewers
, I don't want to have FanDuel,but I can have Roku, so I can
watch it.
Now that was, that's cool foryou, but for me I could watch it
anyway.
So it didn't matter.
And it always sucks becausethere's no option elsewhere,
there's no option of like, ohwell, I don't have Roku, but I

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can go watch it still on FanDuelor anything like that.
Because you know my grandma,she doesn't have Roku, but she
has FanDuel, she has FanDuelSports Wisconsin, she has Amazon
Fire, right, but she does nothave Roku.
So she wasn't able to watchgames.
She usually watches every game.
She wasn't able to watch it.
I mean, that's just an exampleof time ahead.
That I can.
You know personal, but I don'tknow.
It just kind of stinks to haveit that way.

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Um, last but not least, for whatwas grinding my gears coming
out the weekend.
So I I'm not here to call shots, right, I'm not here to take
names or tell names.
I don't have name of thisperson anyways, but I was down.
Like I said, we played down inneilsville this last weekend
there was a coach of an opposingteam, and when I say that the

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stuff that I heard was it almostmade me say something.
It's not even my team.
I don't know this kid.
I have no idea who.
It is not a clue.
I have no idea who this coachis, don't care.
But before the game even starts,right, they got their pitcher
over there warming up on theside, throwing to this catcher.
The catcher can't catch.

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I'm going to be point blank andthis is the nicest way possible
he is not a catcher.
There are some kids that arejust not catchers.
Maybe he's going out on theoutfield, I don't know, but he's
not a catcher.
He doesn't have that knack tobe a catcher.
You can tell that from a mileaway, me not even knowing who he
is.
Seeing him for the first time,I knew he wasn't a catcher.
And this coach is justhollering at him Like I mean

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straight at him, telling himlike, hey, if you can't catch
that, we'll get somebody else todo it.
You got to be able to do it.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, andjust ripping this kid.
It's 12-view baseball.
Just ripping this kid and I'llsay, oh, you know whatever.
Maybe it'll stop after one,maybe these other coaches will
talk to him.
It kept going through the game,like just kept on going and

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going and going.
I just I, I I get because I'llbe honest with you Like I got
jacked up with my kids, like wewere on the tournament, I got
jacked up, I was fired up.
We just won the tournament.
I like to win.
I don't like to lose.
I don't coach, whatever level Icoach, I don't coach to lose, I
coach to win.
Tell my kids too, let's go winthis thing.
Right, you don't tell them, oh,let's go have fun.
Well, you want them to have fun, sorry, you want them to have

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fun.
But you're like, I want to gowin this darn thing too.
End of the day, that's thecoach that I am.
I want to go win this darnthing.
I, just to take it that seriousthat you're basically I mean
just putting this kid down thewhole time just because it's not
his thing.
I, I hate that.

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I, I absolutely hate that ifyou're you're a coach of a young
kid, you're in pretty likeyou're the way that you present
yourself, your demeanor, the,the way that you go about things
, the way that you coach thegame, that's going to affect
that kid, not just you'reopening up a gate, right?
I wasn't, I think it was.
Uh, I think Dan Casper wastalking about the great Dan
Casper over there in Eau Claire,uh, triple area there.

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Um, I think I heard him talkabout this the other day.
You know he said you're openingup that gateway to a right to
get into a sport, get intobaseball, whatever it is, and
when you are opening up thatgate, if you're opening up gate
and the only thing that they seeit as is man, if I don't catch
this, I am just going to getscreamed at would you want to be

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a participant in that gate?
Would you want to be a part ofthat?
No, not a chance.
You wouldn't want to do it.
Because, guess what?
Every kid's got a startingpoint.
Some kids start out, they'regreat, and some kids start out
and they're not.
I think some of these parents,they see the rest of these kids

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and they're like, oh well,everybody should be at this
level, everybody should be atthis level, and sometimes you're
just not.
You have to coach kids wherethey're at and you have to
accept them for who they are,grow with them, help them along
the way.
Don't just belligerently yellat them and make them feel like

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they don't know.
They're just absolutelyterrible.
That's the last thing they need.
That's the last thing they need.
That's the last thing they needfor confidence, because they go
up to the plate and theystruggle, because when you're
screaming at them, they struggleto hit.
They just need confidence.
They want to know that it'sokay.
Whatever happens, it's fine,we're going to get over it, end

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of the day.
I understand that you're gettinga little bit older.
I do, I do.
You're getting a little bitolder and you want some of these
kids to just be better.
You just want to be better.
They should be able to figureit out.
Right.
They've caught a couple oftimes.
They should be able to figureit out, sure, but end of the day
, it's 12U.
Whatever baseball, it's a game.

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They're kids.
If it makes you feel better toscream at them, it makes you
feel better.
But you look like a dink, andif that's the way a dink, I said
dink, and if that's the way youwant to be, I guess so it's

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fine.
If you see it that way, but therest of us?
I don't see it that way, butthe rest of us, I don't see it
that way.
So, yeah, that was grinding mygears off the weekend and I just
want to talk about that becauseI saw it this weekend and I I
wish I would have said something, but you know why?
Why stir a pot?
You know, you would think thatthe parents of this team would
say something to the othercoaches, but they kind of just

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let it go.
Now, if we see this team againand it's the same case, maybe
Just maybe right, so we'll see.
Anyways, anyways, that's enoughof that, that's enough of
what's grinding my gears.
We have so much to get intotoday.
When we come back, we're goingto talk about that today.
We got a little brewery talk.
Then we're gonna come and we'regonna talk with kyle about the

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nba finals.
We want to get to packers heretoday.
So we got a lot to get into.
We are just getting started.
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So we went to the break.
We were talking about what'sgrinding my gears off top of the
hour and I hope maybe you guysunderstood where I was coming
from, with coaches talking toyoung kids in a not-so-nice
manner.
So maybe you took offense tothat.

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If you took offense to it.
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So we went to the and I said Iwant to talk about this new,
this new settlement, the ncaasettlement here, and it's the
judges.
I mean they basically locate a2.8.
The house versus ncaasettlement ends three separate

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federal antitrust lawsuits, allof which claim the ncaa was
illegally limiting the earningpower of college athletes.
So basically this whole thingwhere college athletes believe
they should be paid andeverything else We've been in
this kind of.
We opened up the can of wormsand now it's interesting.

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This one's interesting.
So I looked it up.
I got a site here that wasunderstanding this new
settlement right.
So there's a cap now, 20.5 milis the allowance or cap you know
that teams have to use there.
Schools will begin payingstudent athletes out of that
20.5 mil there.

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I mean, they can also get theirname, image and likeness deals
elsewhere, but this is now fromthe university, so we got that
in there.
I'm not an expert on this, soI'm just going to read off what
I know and react to what I see.
So the cap allowance willincrease by 4% each year of the
10-year agreement.
So it's going to continue to goup with that there, so teams

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will be able to pay more.
The settlement terms take effecton July 1st and includes so
this is what it's including hereback pay to college athletes
who competed between 2016 and2024.
That's that $2.8 billion thatwe're talking about, the $2.8
billion.
I can think of a better way tospend the $2.8 billion, but

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that's just me.
Anyways, the $2.8,.
So they're going to back pay2.8 billion dollars to
collegiate athletes who competedbetween 2016 and 2024 for prior
usage of their name, image,likeness.
So basically, athletes between2016 and 2024 who complained.
Now they get paid right.
So there's been enoughcomplaining.
But what about 2015?

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Right, what about the guys?
It's just, you're okay, soyou're gonna go back to 2016,
but you're not gonna go furtherback, really, really.
So, like frank kaminsky I saw,I think he was on, I think he
was on twitter and he's like wecan't go back one year further,
like because he competed back in2015, it's just, ah, they
stopped it at 2016 there, butthat's what we see so far.
There's going to be theelimination of scholarship
limits.

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That's an interesting one.
No limits to scholarships, sothat's.
I mean you're spending out of apool.
Now You're spending out of apool money.
Usually you have a certainamount of scholarships per team.
Now I mean you're spending outof a pool of money.
So it's whatever.
You got left right, the $20.5million allowance or cap for
schools to pay currentstudent-athletes for the usage

(24:59):
of that NIL Grandfathered rosterlimits.
Love that NIL Grandfatheredroster limits.
Athletes currently on teamswill be able to finish their
careers through theirscholarship terms before new
roster limits 105 for footballtake effect.
105 for football Wow, okay.
In addition to the 20.5 millionathletic departments can
disperse through their athleticprogram, student athletes can

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negotiate outside NIL deals.
So this isn't taking away NILEssentially program.
Student athletes can negotiateoutside nil deals, so this isn't
taking away nil essentially.
So, like your, your athletescan still go out and get you
know gatorade, whatever.
They can still go get theirname, image and likeness deals.
That's still on the table now.
Universities are just paying updirectly.
So it's going to be a questionof where does this money get?
You know, because I heardsomebody talking.

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They're like, oh well, how much?
How much money is marquettegonna get?
Right, because they don't havea football team.
Because if you think about it,okay, you look at a team, you
look at a program like alabama,georgia, right, where's most of
the money gonna go football?
And then you would say probablyalabama.
Now would you maybe say, likemen's basketball, they've been
pretty good.
And then maybe I don't knowsoftball, I don't know

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softball's been relevant overthe years georgia will be
football first, and then I don'tknow right, but wisconsin,
probably you wouldn't sayfootball's been the most
relevant, but football would beyour number one and the prime
men's basketball would be intheir.
Marquette doesn't have afootball team, so they'd be
men's basketball, women'sbasketball.
You know these, every one ofthe programs is going to get a

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percentage of that money.
It's just a question of whereis it going to fit right and
it's not saying that every teamis going to have that share of
the money.
It's basically saying this isyour allowance, but I think it's
going to be lesser for teamslike that.
The lesser amount is going togo.
They won't have that fulleffect there.

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If you are a Marquette, becauseyou only have that one program,
you would have a lot of moneyto be able to push towards one
spot.
That 20.5 is basically.
So the 20.5 million is athleticdepartments can disperse
through their athletic program.
So I think a team, a universitylike that, would get less, is
my guess there.
So that's kind of where the thesettlement terms were.

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Um, let's see here some of theregulations.
A newly appointed collegesports commission, csc, will
oversee the new system in placethat allows schools to share its
revenue via the 20.5 and ensurethe outside nil deals are fair
and comply with the rules.
I like that.
I think it's gonna bleed.
I believe it's a um, a formermajor league baseball executive
price vice president.
Yeah, b yeah, brian Sealy wasnamed the CEO of that.

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So that happened, I believe,last Friday.
So I mean we already see.
Brian Sealy is going to be theguy I like that.
He will see to it thatstudent-athlete NIL deals not
associated with the money paiddirectly by the university be
approved by third party Clearinghouse.

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I don't even that's a big word,I don't even want to try and say
it there, but we don't use bigwords here on the show, trust me
, we don't use big words.
But I mean you have Okay, so wealready have somebody appointed
in charge of this.
He's basically going to overseethe whole thing.
The power four conferences willregulate and enforce player
compensation.
So you're going to have the SEC, the big 10, the big 12 and the
ACC in there too, you're goingto have somebody.
We already have the guyoverseeing it.

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So I mean that's basically allthe quick hitters with the
collegiate sports regulation.
That's I mean, that's basicallyit.
That's the big thing.
So there's a lot of questions,right, there's a lot of
questions coming off that.
So what does this do?
Is there contracts?
Is contracts next?
And I think it is.
I really do.

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I think honestly, this is goingto open up that gate and it
might actually kind of it'sgoing to add some parity, I
would say, to the league or tothe sport.
But I think it's going to kindof regulate transfer portal too,
because guys won't be as Iwould say.

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They wouldn't be as like, ohI'm going to jump here because I
can get better deals here theboosters Because boosters are
basically not involved in it now.
So it's not the boostersanymore, it's going to be the
university itself and wisconsin.
I mean wisconsin, they bring inmoney, I'm not they, we're not.
Madison's not poor.
I mean they're not poor at all.

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Their athletic programs aren'tpoor, so they're going to be
able to compete with, you know,the big there's.
There's no, let the big dogseat anymore.
With this it's going to be sortof similar to like football or
there's a cap and you're goingto have a lot of teams around
that cap.
So I I think it's going to be,I think it's a good thing, I
think it's actually going toregulate things I do and I think

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this is going to open up thedoor for contracts, because now
universities are going to wantto have that you're, we're
paying you now, so now you haveto sign a contract to stay here
for a year.
Now they have that control.
It's like savior lucas is likethank goodness, I'm out of
madison.
Right, I got out of here justin time.
I I like it for that fact isthat I think it's going to, it's

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going to open up that door tocontracts.
I feel like this was a thingthat should have been involved
earlier, in my opinion.
We kind of were here, we sawthe NCAA, they opened up this
floodgate of Transfer Portal,wild, wild, west, everything

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else.
I think this is going to simmerthat down.
I do.
West, everything else.
I think this is going to simmerthat down.
I do.
And we're going to see.
Just because, okay, say, ohioState is kind of maxed out
already.
They can't afford to give thisfive-star quarterback all this
money.
But say a team like I don't know, I was going to throw a random

(30:43):
team out here.
But say Rutgers has got somemoney in the bank and they're
like, hey, we heard, you want,you know, five mil, I got five
mil, want to come play here.
I think it's going to even outthe playing field a little bit
Now.
Is it going to just?
Is Wisconsin just going toautomatically like flip this
switch and all of a suddenbecome this huge contender?

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Maybe not, but I think it'sgoing to add some.
It's going to bring in, I thinkthose years where we saw TCU
make it to the championship.
They got completely demolished,but make it.
And I mean we saw a couple ofdifferent teams there.
We saw what was it.
Cincinnati put a run into theplayoff there and I mean there's
been a couple, you know acouple.
Boise State made a run into theplayoff even though they didn't

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fare very well.
We saw some teams make runs andI think it got the NCAA thinking
, hey, what if we made it alittle more even?
Right, made it a little moreeven, because otherwise,
honestly, end of the day, how isWisconsin ever going to compete
with Alabama, georgia, theyweren't.
Texas, not a clue.
There was no chance, even inmen's basketball.

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I mean Wisconsin, men'sbasketball has been putting
together some consistent years,but, end of the day, did they
have the power to go play Duke?
Did they have?
I mean, right now I don't likeHubie Davis out there with North
Carolina, but usually I meanNorth Carolina has got some

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powerhouse guys right.
Kentucky, were they able tocompete with teams like that?
Probably not.
But now, depending how youdivvy up the money, because you
only have so much there.
So what is it going to be?
75?
Well, I don't know what thepercentage is going to be that
they're going to throw, but now,from the looks of it, you're
going to have the ability toeven the playing field.
So I I'm not I'm not a hater tothis.

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I I think honestly, end of theday, end of the day, there's
multiple sides of the fence.
Some people don't believe thatcollege athletes should be paid,
some people don't, some peopledo, some people are really for
it, some are like in the middle.
I'm like in the middle.
I don't know where I'm at right.
I see the benefit to it and Ialso see the downfall to it.

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I see the struggles with it andI see the uncertainty and I see
the wild, wild west and I seethe no regulations and I see the
xavier lucas situation.
And then I see nigeria fourqueen who's struggling to get an
extra year because he playeddown in chuko, but xavier lucas
can basically just do whateverhe wants and just not even abide
by the rules and just basicallygo and nothing comes out of it.
The ncaa doesn't blink an eye.

(33:15):
Why, I don't know why, do theycare so much about nigeria four
queen going back to uh,wisconsin there, but xavier
Xavier Lucas going down to Miami.
There is like nothing, we don'teven care.
It's like free Xavier Lucas ohboy, shut up, done with that.
But either way, there'smultiple sides of the fence
there and I think, honestly,this brings me close.

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I'm good with guys getting paid.
I feel like they should be.
Why should the NCAA just profitoff of these guys?
I don't think that they shouldbe.
Why should the NCAA just profitoff of these guys?
I don't think that they should.
I think these guys should beable to be compensated for what
they give because, honestly, Ithink, like you, look at the end
of the day, men's collegebasketball, probably March
Madness I don't have the numbersin front of me, but I would say

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that competes with the NBA andthe NBA compensates their guys.
College football I would saythat competes with the nba and
the nba compensates their guys.
College football I would saythat competes with the nfl.
At times the nfl gets numbers.
I'm not saying they don't, butyou see what I'm saying here.
College football's got a bigfollowing.
So does college men's collegebasketball, especially when it
gets march madness.
You have a lot of people thattune in to watch enemy.
College football is so spreadout that you, technically, if

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you put all the numbers together, you probably have a lot of
people tuning to watch.
So I mean, you, you have therevenue being driven, but why?
Why couldn't the players becompensated for that, as you
compensate everybody else?
And so I'm I'm good andactually this, this makes it
better in that way.
So, yeah, I that's kind ofwhere I'm at with this one.

(34:46):
I I'm good with it.
I I'm honestly good with this.
I think this is just the start.
This is the door opening andI'm gonna look more into this.
Like I said, maybe maybe I Icould have misread something.
I just I mean, I went and I didsome research on it and that's
basically all I saw was some ofthe settlement terms and
everything like that.
And you know, I maybe I misreadsomething.
So if guys saw it differently715-990-4914,.

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I'd love to hear what you guysgot to think about this NCAA
settlement.
What do you guys think about it?
715-990-4914.
I'd love to hear what you guysgot to say.
But I mean, that's kind ofwhere I'm at on it.
I think it's opening up newavenues, because I think it's
going to help, it's going topossibly lead to different, I
would say, contracts andeverything like that being
introduced into different youknow, whatever sport.

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So I think it's a good thing.
I really do so when we come back, I want to talk a little bit of
Brewers here.
We're going to talk Brewers.
We're going to talk.
We're going to get into the NBA.
Later we're going to get intothe Packers a little bit today
here.
I don't know.
We're probably going to getBrewers next, maybe Packers.
We're going to get into alittle bit of everything here.
So we are just getting goinghere.
We got a lot more to get tohere tonight, so make sure
you're coming back.
We'll be right back here afterthis quick commercial break.

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We were talking about that ncaasettlements.
I'd love to hear what you guysgot to think about that.
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The new settlement deal aboutplayers being paid directly by

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universities.
The nil deal is, of course,still involved in there.
I mean just kind of what yourthoughts are about this whole
thing and it's I think it's justthe beginning.
I really do.
I think this just just thebeginning.
Just, we're basically justturning the page right now and
there's a lot of book yet to bewritten there.
So we got lots more that isgoing to happen, I believe, with
the ncaa settlement.

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But I want to get into one ofthe biggest I guess biggest
things coming off of this lastweek weekend whatever since
we've last talked right, andthat is Jair Alexander is
currently I know it's we we'regoing to bounce around here
today on the show that is, jairAlexander being released by the
green Bay Packers.
So I essentially what wefigured out was Jair was on the

(37:44):
trading block.
Right, he was on the tradingblock.
Nobody wanted to pay that 17mil, just over 17 mil.
That was on his contract.
Nobody wanted to take on thatfor the Green Bay Packers.
The Packers didn't want it.
Nobody else wanted it.
Okay, well then, jair alsodoesn't want to take a pay cut
to stay in Green Bay.

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As we saw, this release wasgoing to happen at that point
Because the Packers definitelydidn't want to pay him.
They didn't want to pay thatright.
So they tried to get thisincentive-based you know, that
kind of deal in on him.
He didn't want it and you know.
You look all over and you lookacross Twitter and you see, and
you look all over and you lookacross Twitter and you see, was

(38:25):
it ESPN Madison that I saw?
Or ESPN Milwaukee talking aboutit and they're like this move
just proves that Brian Gutekindsdoesn't want to win.
No, not at all.
Not even in the slightest doesthis tell me yup, yup Gutekind
is he doesn't want to win achampionship.
That's what this move showedhere in this last offseason.

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No, they actually get.
They add some cap space.
They're going to be on the hookfor about 9.5 mil of that
contract.
They're now more than 45million under the cap for this
next season, $145 million underthe cap for this next season.
Remove $16.8 million of capspace with that release.

(39:11):
That's a lot of money.
And you know everybody looks atit like, oh, who are they going
to go get?
Who are they going to go get?
This helps them with futuredeals too, don't just?
I mean they can still go.
I'm not saying that they won'tand I'm not saying that they
shouldn't and I'm not sayingthat they shouldn't.
I mean this should open up theavenue for a guy like maybe trey
hendrickson, wink, wink rightto come over and play for the
packers here.
But this opens up that avenueto say, okay, now, when quay

(39:32):
walker's contract comes up, or,if you want to give that big
deal to edgar and cooper whenhis contract comes up.
You're gonna have guys whosecontracts are gonna come, come
up here pretty soon.
You have a lot of young guysand they're going to be off
their rookie deals eventually.
So this money now helps you inthe future too.
And for the first time in Idon't even know how many years

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the Packers are actually in agood spot with the cap For a
while there.
I mean remember when Bakhtiariand Rodgers were on the books
and those contracts werebasically the entire book and
you just were kind of trying tofill pieces in around them.
Yeah, those days we're not inthose days right now.
There's actually a decentamount of wiggle room right now

(40:16):
for the Packers, and I like it,because when you have a roster
with some good talent on it,what can you do with it?
Now, with a little bit of roomto wiggle?
So we'll see.
We'll kind of see what it is.
I just don't like that oldGoody's improving with this move
.
What did you want him to do?
Right, if you look back, okay,and I don't want to say you know

(40:38):
, oh well, he's injured all thetime, because that's going to be
the thing, right, he's injuredall the time.
He is.
I mean honestly he is.
I saw somebody said he missed20 of the possible 34 games over
the last two seasons.
So the Packers have basicallybecome.
You're going to tell me thatlast year, like, oh well, the
defense got worse because JairAlexander wasn't there from last

(41:00):
year to this year he didn'tplay.
Last year he barely was there.
So you're telling me that.
Oh, so what?
You're speculating now.
Yes, is any defense better withan all-pro cornerback in it?
100%, you could bet your butt.
But at the same time, you'regoing to sit here and tell me,
oh, the Packers defense got thatmuch worse and we didn't even
get to really see it with JAlexander.

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No, this doesn't prove thatGoody doesn't want to win a
championship.
This proves that Goody's not.
He's not lost.
He's basically cutting tiesright, which, okay, your
anchor's stuck right.
Your anchor's stuck at thebottom of the sea right now and

(41:44):
Jaws is coming.
Jaws is just coming right.
He's coming down the, he'scoming through that water and
you got to get that anchor offyour boat.
You're gonna cut it or you'regonna leave it.
Sit there and just wait and seewhat happens.
You're gonna cut the anchor.
You're gonna get rid of thattie.
Why keep it on there if it'snot doing anything, why are you
gonna keep a busted wheel?
You just keep it around, right?
I my grandpa would right, heloved keeping that the random
stuff right would be cleaningaround the farm or whatever, and

(42:05):
he I'd be like oh you know,what do you?
What do you want to do withthis, two by four, with 9 000
screws in it?
Well, we could probably usethat someplace else.
Just throw it in that pile overthere.
It's like we're not gonna useit someplace else.
But anyways, it's like that.
Why are we?
Why are we just, oh, we'regonna keep him in the shed just
in case he doesn't play.
When he's 90 he doesn't play.
How many times last year did wesee jay alexander practice for

(42:28):
multiple days and then it seemedlike, oh, he's a full go, he's
a full go, he's a full practice,full practice.
Then all of a sudden he'slimited and then doesn't play.
He wouldn't go at less than 100.
He was.
I mean, at one point we thoughthe was a problem in the locker
room and then you have some guyswho say he's great and some
guys who you know.
You look at it and you're likethis guy's a problem.

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We saw him after the seasonlast year.
He kind of said, deuces, I'mout, and we thought it was over.
Then Most fans thought it wasover and then there was the
glimmer of hope that he mightstay.
So now they're all on.
Well, we're getting worsebecause he's gone.

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Now he was barely here.
I mean you just I just read offthat stat there and that I saw
over on Twitter that I mean 20of the possible 34 games over
the last two seasons and youlook over the past month.
I mean it's just been injuriesand been a problem.
Nobody's knocking J Alexanderthe player, because J Alexander
when he's out there is fantastic.
That interception he hadagainst Dallas in the playoffs
not many corners do that.
He's great, he's a great corner.

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But could you realisticallyspend all that money on a guy
who's sitting the pine becausehe's 79% and just can't go?
Can you realistically tell methat?
As a Packer fan, you're goodwith that, because how many of
you are flipping script now fromcomplaining last year the

(43:54):
opposite way?
Oh well, you know.
Well, he's not out there, sowe're going to complain now, but
now that we had the potentialto bring him back, it's like the
guys I'm talking about downthere, whatever esp and madison
and milwaukee, whatever they arecomplaining now that goody's
not trying to, oh, this justproves he's not trying to win
this offseason.
What do people just?

(44:18):
Is that just?
Sometimes I think some guysjust want to open up a can of
worms just because they can like, let let's throw a hot take out
there.
Right, he's not trying to winbecause he doesn't bring Jair
back, but he goes out and makesa huge deal for an offensive
lineman After they getcompletely obliterated up front
in the playoffs against theEagles Obliterated.
If anybody looks back at theEagles game and says they lost

(44:39):
because of their secondary, I'dcall you crazy.
Yeah, their secondary I callyou crazy.
Yeah, their secondary couldhave been better.
Sure, your secondarytechnically got better.
Honestly, you replaced EricStokes with Nate Hobbs.
You got better.
You did Like you got better.
Just by that move.
Would you have been a lotbetter with Jair?
Sure, yes, 100% you would havebeen, but you got better already

(45:02):
.
You got better.
The pass rush didn't get better.
You want to blame somethinggoing to the pass rush, but
honestly, you look at what thePackers struggled with in the
playoff game last year.
It was the offensive line.
What did Goody address.
He went and got one of the bestguards out there, slid out when
Jenkins over, let Josh Myerswalk no-transcript because

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Rasheed Walker's going to needmoney here pretty soon.
So you're hoping that one ofthese young guys like a Jordan
Morgan or a guy like Beltonthere can fit into a role along
that offensive line.
Maybe he can dump some ofthese's out.
But Goody's made some movesthat everybody's like oh, we're
just completely forgetting aboutthem just because, oh, we got
Matthew Golden too right.

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Everybody was complaining thatGoody never drafts offense, he
never gets a receiver.
Then they go and get MatthewGolden and he's not trying to
win this offseason.
He's not trying to win, he'sfreeing up cap space by getting
rid of an anchor.
And if Jair plays an entire,honestly I don't hate Jair
Alexander.
I hope he has a great careerwherever he goes.

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Maybe he comes back to thePackers, maybe they find a way
to bring him back.
I don't know.
Maybe he ends up with theRavens.
I hope that he gets healthy andI hope that he has a great
career.
I do, I have no problem withJair.
I do, I have no problem withJair.
I just think he was injured andyou can't just sit here and

(46:32):
consistently bring back a guy onthat big of a deal who was
consistently injured.
It's like my complaints withChristian Jelic for the Brewers.
Right, christian Jelic, when hebats 200, why can't you
complain that he makes more thananybody else on the roster, why
can't I?
He makes more than everybodyelse.
He should be one of my mostconsistent, best hitters, but

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why isn't he producing?
Well, maybe he's injured right,he had the back problems.
He had all the rest of thoseproblems.
Jay Alexander, he's one of thebest, one of the best corners, I
believe, but he's injured.
He's injured a lot, that's.
I don't want to blame him, butit's a problem.
It's exactly the problem,people's problem with christian

(47:13):
watson.
He's injured all the time.
I I just don't get where allthese.
I mean there's a lot ofoverreactions to this.
Honestly, there's a lot ofoverreactions.
And I mean now they have thethird most gap space among NFL
teams.
We're good Like, let's justtake a breath and relax.

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Let's take a breath and relax.
So the Jair news that's kind ofwhat I had to say on it.
We're going to talk about itmore later on in the show.
Jair news that's kind of what Ihad to say on it.
We're going to talk about itmore later on the show because
Ummer is going to be coming onlater here.
We're going to talk morePackers.
So I want to get into it withUmmer.
I want to see his thoughts onthat Jair situation and then
kind of talk about what we seecoming out of that, because
there's a lot of moves that theGreen Bay Packers can make now.

(47:58):
I mean there's got like RasulDouglas got a potential maybe
reunion with him if he's not tooupset at the Green Bay Packers.
So maybe they try to make amove like that.
Maybe we see the Packers kindof target a guy like Trey
Hendrickson who's looking formore money out there in
Cincinnati.
Maybe they try to make a dealfor him.
There's a lot of moves thatcould be made yet in this
offseason and we're already kindof.

(48:20):
You know why are we pointingfingers already?
It's not even the season yet.
According to Halfley and theboys, the defensive line will be
better If they can fix itin-house with that defensive
line, because we saw Kenny Clarkhe was banged up last year and
then Rashawn Gary.
He had his own problems andthen we had, you know, lucas Van

(48:42):
Ness had his problems themental block, with his hand
being hurt.
That's what he said.
So I mean, if that's I talkedabout that last week.
I don't know if that's a goodthing or a bad thing, but maybe
the defensive line fixes itself,I don't know.
But you have cap space now youhave.
You have gonna have to pay.
Guys, we're gonna see all that.
You, you gotta have the caproom because, darn, you need it.
So I this move, I'm good.

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I'm good.
I think we need to take abreath and relax.
But we're going to talk to Umberabout it later.
We'll get more into it.
We'll see what Umber's got tosay.
We'll talk about that wholething.
So we got lots more to get totoday.
We got some Packer talk to getto yet with Umber there.
Later on we got some NBA finalstalk.
I want to get Kyle with becausethe NBA finals just seen up,
we're seeing Oklahoma City.

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It's weird that it's so spreadout.
I'll talk about that with Kyle.
So we're going to get into thata little bit here.
Later on in the show we gottons of Brewer talk to get to,
because Brewers, they had arough weekend there with Padres.
I want to get into that.
They got the Braves.
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And hey, I told you guys we'regoing to talk Brewers after the
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And then Kyle's like no way,man, I'm coming on, I'm ready to
go, we're going to talk NBAFinals.
So I was like okay, okay, we'llput the Brewers on pause.
Kyle's coming on, so we gotKyle coming on here.
We're middle of the week, we'refeeling frisky.
How's it going tonight?

Speaker 3 (54:42):
Yeah, I'm good.
You know it's like theunofficial start of summer.
We're past Memorial Day.
The finals are.
You know, we're in the midst ofthe finals.
It could be a great series, Idon't know.
But yeah, I can't complain.

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So kyle comes on.
You guys know what we always dothe mellow yellow minute.
So make sure you are gettingyour favorite beverage right now
.
You're cracking it.
I already cracked mine.
I'm sorry I right, cracked it,cracked it again.

(55:50):
I already cracked my soda, as Ialways do.
So I got my favorite soda.
Make sure you got your favoritebeverage over there for the
Mellow Yellow Minute.
The question tonight Trage'sfavorite barbecue beverages.
Last week we did my favoritefoods.
This week we have favoritebeverages.
So, kyle, this is tough, thisis going to be tough.

(56:11):
Last week we had Bratz burgers,potato salad, taco salad, crab
salad and pickles.
I threw pickles on there lastweek and you know, kyle, he was
all over the place with the ribsand everything.
My grandma, she said my listwas bogus.
So, okay, fine, we'll try tofix it with the drink list this
time.
So, kyle, what do we got?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Trage's favorite barbecue drinks.
Okay, so I'm going to guessbeer of some sort is going to be
on there.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Beer of some sort is on there, kyle.
Now, what is Trage's favoritebeer that he's got on this list?
It is not natterdays.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Nobody, nobody likes natterdays okay, um, let's go
miller oh, okay, I did.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
We went.
I went through a phase where Ihad to drink one.
Every time the brewer started agame I had to crack and drink
one.
I did it for the playoffs lastyear.
My wife's like why do you needMiller?
You don't drink Miller.
And I'm like, because I'mtrying to bring that good voodoo
right, I'm just trying to bringthat good juju on there,
bushlight, bushlight is on thereand you know, some people are

(57:21):
like that is pee water overthere.
So kyle, that was number one.
Okay, what is?

Speaker 2 (57:26):
let's go top three.
What do we got?
What do?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
we got for another guest here, trade just top
barbecue drinks I'll go with.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Uh, I'll put like an iced tea, sweet tea type I do
like a nice brisk tea.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I was gonna say lemonade.
I was gonna say lemonade, so Iwill put.
We'll put brisk tea in there.
I like a nice brisk tea, a niceiced tea.
Not, I was gonna say lemonade,so I will put.
We'll put brisk tea in there.
I like a nice brisk tea, a niceiced tea, not sweet tea.
Oh man, I'm not a sweet teakind of guy the last one.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
I just I got.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I got a feeling you're not gonna get this one.
It's not diet mountain dude no,everybody out there who knows
me is like it's diet mountaindude.
No, that's not.
That's an average day at theballpark.
That's like like my water.
We're not talking about dietmode right now.
This is another beverage that Iwould have.
I don't have it a lot because Inever have the fixings for it.
But, kyle, take a random shotin the dark.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Okay, so it sounds like something you've got to
make.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Oh it's cop.
I honestly, if you guessed this, I would be absolutely baffled.
I would be baffled.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
I honestly have no idea.
So I'm just going to say I knowit's not it, but I'll just say
a root beer.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Sadly, it is not a root beer.
Sadly, I would take a nice rootbeer float, though it is a
Summer Hummer.
A Summer Hummer, it's basicallylike a lime vodka with a
lemonade and a splash of spritein there.
Maybe some orange juice.
Oh, it is fantastic.
It is.
It's dangerous and fantastic.
So, yeah, that's my summerdrink right there.
That's my summer backyardbarbecue drink there.

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So I'd love to hear what yourguys's favorite beverages are
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So, kyle, this NBA playoffs.
I mean we had some lacklusterseries leading up into this one.
I would say honestly, thiswasn't very exciting up until

(59:16):
this point.
There were a couple games hereand there, but it just didn't
strike my interest right thisfinal so far.
I mean the Pacers.
They came back game one,stormed back in game one and
took that one over the Thunder,and then the Thunder completely
demolished them in game two.
They said basically like we'vehad enough, we're going to put
you away in game two.
I mean, what has stuck out toyou in this series?

(59:36):
Split into a game apiece,heading back to the Pacers now
here on Wednesday, what hasstuck out to you about this
series so far?

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Well, I mean game one , we saw the Pacers play kind of
undisciplined early on, but theThunder weren't able to take
advantage of it.
They shot poorly, they weren'tgood in transition, they didn't
have a lot of points offturnovers, even though they
forced the paces into like 25.

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And they only lost by one.
So I felt like for Thunder fans, you didn't want to necessarily
panic, because I thought thebiggest thing for them was going
to be shot selection and justmaking shots.
And that's what we saw in gametwo.
Game two, they improved theirfield goal percentage from
around 39% to 49% and I feellike when the Thunder play

(01:00:30):
efficiently like that, it makesit tougher on the Pacers to keep
up with them.
Because, look, when I look atthese two teams, they are very
similar, except for everythingyou say about the Pacers.
The Thunder probably have aslightly better version of it,
and I feel like that's whatwe're going to see in this
series is whether or not thePacers can take care of the ball

(01:00:54):
and keep the Thunder out oftransition and force them to be
less efficient.
Because, also, game one, theydidn't get a lot of points in
the paint, but then, game two,the Thunder lived in the paint.
So we're going to have to seewhat Rick Carlisle does in game
three to kind of offset whathappened in game two.

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Because if they get a repeatperformance of game two, the
Thunder can win in Indiana.
There's a reason why they werethe best team in the NBA.
Going on the road is not thatbig of a deal for them.
So the Pacers will have to playreally fast at home, utilize
that crowd, keep the crowdinvested and then they have a
shot.
The Thunder are very dangerouswhen they take that first lead.

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If you don't match theirintensity they'll turn six oh to
10.
Oh and then momentum's, youknow, fully on their side.
So you know Indiana is going tohave to get better game out of
Halliburton.
Halliburton had a decent gameOne, game two, three wasn't

(01:02:00):
really uh, existent in that gameuntil late.
He's gonna have to be locked infrom jump in game three I was
just looking at the box scoreafter this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Um, I didn't realize that the thunder had two guys
named jaylen williams, justspelled different.
That's wild, that is absolutelywild to me.
Like jaylen williams, justone's got a y and then, and the
other one's J-A-L-E-N.
I mean stupid, but I justthought that was wild.
I thought that was crazy.
I was going to mention that.
You know, watching that game Idon't know what it is about this

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playoffs, but sometimes thestars just all of a sudden just
disappear.
Albert is supposed to be a star, right, he's supposed to be
this guy who's building himselfto be a star, and yet in this
game he went away.
We saw, uh, early on in theplayoffs Jokic went away.
Jimmy Butler went away.
For the Warriors it was justAnthony Edwards went away.
He wasn't taking shots.
It's like why?

(01:02:53):
Right?
And in this game, where theThunder needed it, shea Gildress
, alexander was like he'spulling shots from everywhere.
I mean normally he's.
You know, for me, watching him,he's more of a, he's scorer,
but he's a facilitator too.
He's not always hunting thatshot.
This game here he was hunting ashot.
Every time down the floor hewas hunting a shot and I thought
that was a big difference, Iwould say, for me.
I don't know if you saw thesame thing like you were

(01:03:14):
mentioning.
There is Tyrus Halliburton kindof went away.
I thought it was the flip sidefor the Thunder in this one it
was Shade Gildress, Alexander.
He was hunting shots and yousaw other guys get involved in
there too.
Chet Holmgren was fantastic onthe defensive end.
He was huge for him on thedefensive end.
But even a guy like JalenWilliams, he was getting after
it down there on the offensiveend and he was taking big-time

(01:03:35):
shots.
They were getting to thefree-throw line.
I thought that was huge too,getting that free-throw line.
You see that percentage for himin that game.
I mean they were what?
29 for 33.
I mean it's hard to beat a teamwhen they shoot that many free
throws and they shoot it thatconsistent.
So I, you know, is it, is itthe pacers?
Just they, they got this.
They sucker punched the thunder, but the thunder just I mean
they didn't waver, they justcame back.

(01:03:57):
The next time they're like okay, now maybe we took the gas
pedal off in game one and weallowed the pacers, because
pacers are a team that if yougive them breathing room, 20
ain't enough.
It wasn't you know kind of thatthere, where they put that gas
pedal down in game two, game one.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
They kind of took it off I mean no, because I think,
not to discredit what the pacersdid at all.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
I don't want to discredit it, but it just seemed
like this intensity that theyplayed with the thunder in game
two just seemed like it wasstart to finish, Whereas in game
one it was start halfwaythrough to win away and then
came back at the end when it wastoo late.
The Pacers were already back init.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Yeah, the problem in game one was I thought the
Thunder had a really good gameplan where they got the ball out
of Tyrese Halliburton's handsearly on in the possession and
then made it difficult for thePacers to get the ball back in
his hand.
The problem with game one youcan't force 24, 25 turnovers and

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only score 10 points off ofthem.
That's where the Thunder fellshort in game one, like if they
had cleaned that up and didbetter on the turnovers, they'd
win game one probably easily.
So with that, even with thepaces and all those turnovers,
the paces were never like toofar out of it.
They always kind of hung aroundlike a 10-point deficit and

(01:05:19):
then in the fourth theirthree-point shooting really took
off and that's how they got thelead.
Game two was probably more likehow most people saw this series
going, where the Thunder arejust really good at getting to
their spots, they're really goodat forcing fouls and getting to
the free throw line, wherethey're a really good shooting
team.

(01:05:39):
But the key is that the Thundercan throw more people at
Halliburton than necessarily thePacers can throw at SGA.
So that's why Carlisle has tokind of decide how he's going to
pick his poison and stopeverybody else, or you lock in

(01:06:03):
on SGA and you live with otherguys possibly beating you, like
Dort or Caruso or Chet, one ofthese guys.
So that's the tough part OnIndy's part, whereas if you're
the Thunder, you're just like wejust play our game and we don't
lose focus.
We should win the series andthat's like the dynamic in this,

(01:06:29):
because you've got to rememberthe Pacers as well.
This is their first time onthis stage, but the Thunder have
the pressure of being thefavorite and it's just them kind
of taking that pressure andutilizing it to play better and
not let it consume them and getout from what their game plan is

(01:06:50):
and their identity.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
Did the Thunder switch?
Because they switched up thatstarting lineup.
Right, Hartenstein was in thereand then they pulled him back
right and they switched up thatstarting lineup.
Was that the case in game two?
I was trying to look back andsee what they had in game one.
There I wasn't I wasn't 100positive on that.
I thought they switched thestarting lineup to.
Going into that.
Let me just double.
I was going to double checkthat quick there.

(01:07:15):
I don't want to do this on air.
But no, no, they did not, didthey?
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
let's say they, they kept it.
The only thing was game one.
What did they change?
There was a switch from likewhat they had been doing.
They started Case and Wallacegame one and he started a lot
during the regular season, butthe postseason, that's what it
was.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
The game one.
They switched it with Case andWallace.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
I had seen something where they were switching things
up there going into this series, so I kind of it's worked out
so far.
The office has been flown rightnow for the thunder there.
So I had a question for you.
I know we're getting, uh, alittle tight on time here, but I
had a question for you.
We've seen a lot of people talkabout this, I know they.
I was listening to dan patricktalk about it there a little bit
and I've heard a coupledifferent shows talk about it.

(01:08:01):
But the way that they spread outthis finals and I get, I get it
right, you're trying to get themost bang for your buck.
You, in case it's a sweep, youwant to have it extend as long
as possible because you want toprofit as long as you can.
But this just seems excessive.
I mean, what?
What do we?
What was last?
They just played on what sunday?

(01:08:22):
Was it sunday there that theyjust played this last game?
It was sunday and then it wasbefore that it was Thursday,
wasn't?
It was Thursday or Friday toSunday, and now it's Wednesday
to Friday and then they won'tplay again until that next
Monday and if they need it,they'll play the next Thursday
and if they need it again, gameseven's gonna be on the Sunday.
I I get.
You know, you want to havehealthy bodies and you're

(01:08:44):
getting late in the season andyou want to have rest and
everything else.
But I think almost sometimes tome, the NBA, they want to profit
, they want to extend things outbecause they think it's going
to be better.
But I think sometimes also thedrag also makes it worse for
fans.
Right, because you're soexcited, you're so hyped.
Right, the Pacers say they take, they take game three.
And then like how do you ridemomentum into game four when

(01:09:06):
it's two days later?
Or how do you ride momentumback to okc if you win?
Say the pacers win both games.
Right, they're up three to one.
I I don't know if that's gonnahappen, but they're up three,
one going back for game five andokc, that's.
I mean you're talking friday tomonday.
You have three days off ifyou're the thunder to relax, to
calm yourself down, to get backat it, to practice and get
everything.

(01:09:26):
It's like I don't know if youcan really ride momentum in a
series that spread out, becauseeven between games, I mean
you're playing at the PacersWednesday, you have a day off,
then you play Friday.
There's no back-to-backs,there's no nothing.
I get you want to have healthybodies, but, kyle, I mean, what
do you think about this?
Do you think there's a happymedium?
I feel like there's a happymedium, not a two-week span
happy medium like it looks likeright now but, like, maybe

(01:09:49):
spread it out over a week and ahalf, maybe over a week, bring
it a little bit closer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
What do you think?
I mean, I think you knowobviously best case would
probably work that way, but theway that they do it now is, if
you're in the same city,obviously games one and two and
then three and four they giveyou that automatic day in
between because they don't wantteams playing back-to-back after
such a long season in thefinals.
So that part is not going tochange the Friday to Monday

(01:10:21):
thing.
That's because they have atravel day in there.
So you already get the built-inday off after the game, then
you get the travel day, then youget possibly the next game.
So, unfortunately, I think thisis kind of what it's going to be
, because the NBA is like thelast thing we'll need is some
guy, you know, with some softtissue injury or something

(01:10:46):
because they got overworked in atightly compacted final series,
and then fans will be like, oh,we would have won if so-and-so
didn't, whatever.
So there's probably no perfectschedule for it.
Also, you know you have theStanley Cup finals kind of
working in the same time.
I'm sure the NBA doesn't wantto necessarily step on that, you

(01:11:07):
know, too many nights, becauseyou're kind of splitting the
sports fan base possibly, eventhough I don't know if there's a
lot of you know NHL fans tryingto watch the NBA or NBA
watching the NHL, but you neverknow.
Yeah, sports fans, because atthis point some sports fans
probably tune into nhl just tosee who's gonna win it all.
Something's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
They just want to watch some kind of live sport,
because right now it's justbaseball really is all that's
happening.
No, I, I could.
I could definitely see what you.
I could see where you're comingfrom.
I just it's like you almost forme, because I'm not a huge nba
fan everybody knows that I'mmore college basketball.
You lose interest If you spreadit out too far.
I forget, I forget.
Because it's Friday to Monday.

(01:11:47):
I'm like when do they play next?
Then I got to look again.
It's like, oh my gosh, notuntil Monday.
Okay, what am I supposed to do?
Weekends are those times whereit's like, if you're a Bucs fan
on a Sunday, because SundayPackers fans go to the bars like
it's no other, but if you getweekends going, especially in
Milwaukee, it's pandemoniumright, because you're going to

(01:12:09):
have a lot of people on the boat.
If you get those Mondays, it'slike when the national
championship for collegebasketball is on a Monday at 8
o'clock at night and it's likewho's watching that If your
team's not in it?
Who's staying up that late towatch the entire thing of
Gonzaga taking on North Carolina?
It's like nobody cares, likeit's just it's hard to keep some
fans, I guess, in tune when youstretch it out so far, and I

(01:12:30):
guess that's where my worrywould be if I was, you know, an
NBA official.
But they think they got hereighth rep, so we'll see what
happens there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
So, Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
I mean just wrapping it up here for the segment, but
Giannis looks like he's stayingin milwaukee as far as we saw.
He basically said you know, Ihope to be back in the finals
and it's going to be with thebucks.
So yannis is coming back.
Look like brooke.
Looks like brooke lopez isprobably not coming back and it
looks like bobby is going to optin.
So bobby's going to be back,probably going to get porter

(01:12:58):
back is what the talks are, whatthe looks are from what I'm
seeing.
And then Giannis is going to beback.
So I'm liking what I'm seeingout of the Milwaukee Bucks right
now.
But, kyle, I got to run here.
I'm late for a break.
Goodness gracious, I'm late fora break once again.
We always get talking about thefinals and everything else and
I have a list of things I wantto talk about and it's like, all
right, we're going to waituntil next time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
So, yeah, you can just, I guess, look for me
chomping at the bit uh, easiestplace would probably be youtube
and then go to go out to myabout section, see links to all
my other social media.
I'm on, you know, twitter, or x, I guess, whatever you call it.
Uh, you know, follow the tumblr, facebook, like it's.
It's all there, so I did readon his tumblr.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
The other day, guys, I told you I was gonna figure
out what tumblr was.
I did?
I looked it up.
I read his stuff great stuff.
You can learn a boatload andhe's got links on his tumblr
that takes you to youtube towatch his videos, to learn
something out there learn aboutwhat's going on with stefan
diggs and everybody else outthere.
It is.
He's got great content, so makesure you're checking out there,
kyle.
Thank you.
As always, we'll be back hereafter the break.

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So Umber how we doing.
It is Wednesday.

(01:16:32):
We're at the middle of the week.
It's been a weird week becauseof all this weird stuff
happening.
The Packers over the last20-some 48 hours have just been
baffling.
So how have we been personally,how have you been?
And then we'll get to what thePackers are doing right now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
It's been a crazy week.
It's been a crazy literally.
The week just started and it'sbeen a crazy week.
So I had some stuff going on,some personal stuff, but all in
all not too bad, I can'tcomplain.
Yeah, the Packers are on littlebit less in cap space.
We cut Jair when I was thebiggest proponent, for a week in
and week out, hoping that theywere going to make this work out

(01:17:09):
and they were going to find away to be amicable and bring him
back.
And we'll have to now wait tosee where Jair ends up, because
that's going to be a tough pillto solve if he stays within
division.
And then, on top of that too, Ifeel like we have, uh, sam
shields 2.0 in the making, withbow melton turning from wide
receiver to corner.
Uh, people are talking abouttravis hunter and jacksonville
and I'm saying, hey, guess what,we have bow melton at home and

(01:17:32):
so we're gonna see if he's gonnaplay both ways.
But, um, the biggest argument Iwill say is that if you take his
workout, uh, when he came outof ruggers, and you put it into
map bombs, brass, you knowrelative athletic score, uh
little calculation thing for acorner, he actually matches up
to be a very good athleticcorner, similar to actually a

(01:17:55):
little bit better than hisbrother who went in the second
round, uh, but for the Cardinalsit was a starting corner for
them.
So honestly, uh, my head's on aswivel right now, considering
the fact that just everythingthat's going on and I really
don't know if not to hate ongoody by any means, but
sometimes I do kind of wonder ifhe flies by to see if his pants
.
So yeah, I'm, I'm with you, man.

(01:18:16):
Um, I can keep going, but howare you doing, is the question,
because that that lastcommercial you just gave made me
hungry, so now I'm not figuringout how much I can eat.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
I'm doing good.
I'm doing good, as always.
I mean, he's jumping the gunout here.
He's like we're going to talkabout everything.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
So I want to talk about let's start with that Jair
news.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
So Jair Alexander's release we talked about it.
If you missed my rant about it,it's not really a rant, just
what I had to think about itearly on in the show.
Make sure you're listening backon podcast next day tomorrow.
You can listen across allpodcast platforms.
Find the show there.
You can find what I had to say.
But I mean umber gyres, let go.
Now you open up that.
You know some funding, right,you got.
You got some cap space freed up.

(01:18:55):
I love to see it.
Um, a lot of packer fans.
They're kind of in the sameboat as you.
They were and you know you getthose ones where they were.
Well, we don't need him.
After last season they're like,oh, I hope he goes away, right,
and then all of a sudden, therewas a glimmer of hope that he
was going to come back.
So they're like oh, I want himback right.
And then all of a sudden he'sgone and they're like well, how
did you let him go?
oh my god it's like you gottastop flipping all over the place

(01:19:17):
like did you want him, do you,you not?
What was the deal?
What was it not?
It was incentive-based, butwhat were the incentives?
What were you going to givethis guy?
Was it a real like a huge paycut?
Because Jair is still a prettydarn good corner and he could
probably go get his moneyelsewhere in a proven contract.
So I mean, where were you atwith this deal?

(01:19:39):
Because you listen to it and Imentioned, like ESPN Milwaukee I
believe that's the one downthere they were losing their
marbles about this because theysaid that, you know, goody was
this just proved he wasn'ttrying to win a championship and
it was.
I mean just baffling me becauseI don't think this was a move
that was.
You know, I'm not going to wina championship because honestly,

(01:20:01):
like I said earlier on the show, I think you you got better
already in the secondary natehobbs over top of eric stokes.
You already got better and yougot keishon nixon back, you got
karen to valentine.
You added a lot of young guys.
Now kaylin king apparently iswalking around in a cast, so I
have no idea what happened there, but bo mellon's moving over to
corner.
So that's fine, right.
And I mean we've seen him onspecial teams and he does a darn

(01:20:21):
good job on special teams, somaybe it is one of those.
Bo Mellon can switch out.
He wasn't going to make it as awide receiver on the roster, so
this was his only shot to makethe 53.
And if it works out for him, itworks out for him At the end of
the day.
Honestly it sounds crazy and Iknow it's weird timing, because
it's like Jair walks and thenall of a sudden next day Paul

(01:20:47):
Melton's playing cornerback andyou're like was this the fix?
And it's like no, is this theplan?
The whole time and it's like Ihope not.
But it's just it's bad timing,I think.
Honestly, end of the day, but Ireally do think.
I mean it's good to have depthand I think Paul Melton could be
a guy to flip over, so it's notbad.
It's not bad there, but whatwere your thoughts coming off?
I mean, you gave a little bitthere but remember, we've got to
keep it PG on the radio here.
We've got to keep it PG on theradio, but what were some of

(01:21:10):
your thoughts there coming off?
That Jair release, I mean good,bad.
Is it like the end of the world, like apparently ESPN, some of
the different radio stations aremaking it scene is at the end
of the world?
Health, terror or what?

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Oh man, Well, first my bad.
If I dropped a bad word there,that's my fault.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
I don't think you did .
I don't think you dropped a badword.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I don't think I did but I can see where you're going
.
Because you're right, though,because when it comes to Kyle
Ben and Brust Ben Br, they arevery much click-baity.
They troll a lot.
I do feel why some peopleresonate with what they're
saying, and it's because notthat I agree with him.
Making this move means thatGoody's not trying to win a

(01:21:52):
Super Bowl.
I don't think that's true.
We're just so used to seeingthese other teams like the
Philadelphia Eagles, the Chiefsand even, for that matter, the
Bills and other teams that makecertain moves that show they're
trying to move the needle in thepositive direction, right, and
we're not seeing that with greenbay.
They kind of do this very muchlike, hey, the tried and true
method, you know, slow andsteady, it's worked for us

(01:22:12):
before.
It worked for us again.
You know we have all this capmoney.
I think what you've mentionedpreviously and when it comes to
us losing jair, to me is, yeah,you do lose a guy who hasn't
played much in the last coupleyears, but we both said when
he's out there, he's one of thebest, right, and I was
definitely in that yo-yo phaseof like I always wanted him back
, and the fact that it was hopereally upsets me and for them

(01:22:36):
not to be able to come to somekind of decision to where a
contract would be structured.
Because that's what the problemwas was like it was an
incentive-based contract but itwasn't structured the way he
wanted.
I'm assuming he didn't getenough guaranteed money and his
defense he's like well, I earnedthe contract that you're trying
to restructure me out of, sothen why am I going to take less
money?
Okay, that's fine.
It'll be really interesting tosee what he gets in the open

(01:22:57):
market.
Uh, but I think you may havediscussed this in the past where
, if you had an idea, you'reabout 60 40 leaning that gyre
wasn't going to be back.
I felt like you should do a lotmore than continually draft two
corners in the seventh round,and I understand that you
fortify your line and you docertain moves like that.
But these last two drafts arevery, very corner driven with a

(01:23:19):
lot of good talent that couldhave stepped in and probably
start.
I mean you could have.
We're literally got bill meltonplaying right now.
We could have easily had MaxMelton playing corner for us
last year.
I mean there was opportunitiesto get a lot of great corners in
the last two drafts that wedecided to wait.
Kaelin King, a great talent,began in the seventh round
because he had a poor final yearwhen he was at Penn State and,
yeah, he's walking around rightnow with a broken wrist.

(01:23:39):
That with a broken wrist that'swhy he has a cast on his right
arm.
And then you got Micah Robinson, you know, seventh round pick
out of Tulane and, who knows,maybe the draft board didn't
fall the way they wanted to.
I have to admit like it is alittle concerning just to see us
make a move with a player who Iknow a lot of people are very
like divisive on.
But I just feel, like you know,he was Go, he's first, first

(01:24:02):
pick ever as a gm.
Uh, we all fell in love withhim.
We know that he's a top threecorner when he's out there
playing um and I felt like I'mjust that guy who just is like
you know what, like thedefinition of insanity.
Like you know, I'm gonna keeptrying the same thing and hope
for a different result.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
I'm gonna keep trying jire out there and hope he's
gonna play 17 games yeah, andunfortunately that hasn't
happened and that's the hardpart, and that's where I talked
about earlier cutting the boatanchor off.
I just said, sometimes you justgot to, as much as it might
suck, as much as it might seemlogical, maybe to keep them
there, right, because it wasalways that glimmer of hope and
that's the big thing that youwere talking about.
It's that glimmer of hope.
It's like, okay, if he doesplay, if he does play, wow, look

(01:24:40):
at this defense.
But if he doesn't, then we'repaying him 17 mil to sit there.
And that's the hard part.
That's the hard part to stomach, because you are trying to.
Now you're going to startpaying the young guys, and
that's where I think a lot ofthis money is going to go, and a
big one for me.
Elton jenkins is back atpractice now, but he's not
practicing, yeah, so he'swaiting for that contract

(01:25:02):
extension.
He's waiting for that money,right, he's waiting for that
money in there because he'sholding things to hold out.
Right, yeah, exactly and I thinkbecause goody said well, now we
got some money, expect somethings to be happening here.
I think that's one of them.
I think they're going to usethis money that they got from
jair.
They're going to get him paidup.
We know quay walker's probablygoing to be looking at an
extension here pretty soon.
Dav Devontae Wyatt's probablygoing to be in that same boat.

(01:25:23):
You have some receivers who aregoing to be in that same kind
of area here pretty soon.
So you have a lot of young guyswho are going to be up and your
hope is that Zach Tom, you'rehoping that, anthony Belton and
Jordan Morgan, you're hopingthose two guys come to being
something right, because thenRashe walker doesn't get an

(01:25:44):
extension.
Rashid walker, you go I'm sorry, buddy, you played great.
We love you.
You've done fantastic, but it'sa business.
See you later.
That's kind of where I'm atwith it right now is that you're
gonna do a lot of these things.
A lot of people saw the catmoney.
They're like oh, who do we goget?
Who do we go get?

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
now and it's like okay, hold on pump the brakes,
pump brakes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
We now have money.
For the first time since we gotDavid Bagtiare and Aaron
Rodgers off the books, wefinally look good.
I think we have the third mostcap space in the NFL as of right
now.
So it's like you have thatmoney to spend, but also you
don't want to get.
You don't want to be all of asudden, you don't want to start

(01:26:24):
losing guys like that.
So goody's got to be smart withit and I think he will be.
You make some of thoseinteresting moves right.
Maybe you're with sewelldouglas, maybe you see if he he
doesn't hate us right now andmaybe he comes back right.
You try to make one of thosemoves where it's an under the
radar, not a huge flashy guy,but, uh, a solid ad.
You know, trey henderson Idon't know, can you afford a

(01:26:47):
trey henderson contract, what hereally wants at an extension I
don't know I I have no idea whathis extension or what what he's
asking.
I haven't looked into that muchbut I would imagine, as good as
he's been, it's gonna be apretty hefty asking price.
Can you afford to load up thatportion and maybe take away from
what you're able to do withyour wide receiver core, because

(01:27:08):
you have a lot of guys in therewho are going to have contracts
coming up.
You're going to have a lot ofoffensive linemen.
You're going to have a lot oflinebackers.
You're secondary.
Right now you're cheap withyour secondary.
What are they going to beasking for at some point here?
Xavier McKinney, uh, wheneverhis contract I don't even know

(01:27:29):
what his contract is, butwhenever that comes up,
eventually there you're gonnahave guys contracts coming up.
I I don't think you getwilly-nilly with, but I mean,
where are you at right now?
You got that extra cap space,all right, if I.
I think it's a pipe dream.
I know a lot of people werelike, oh, now that they have
this trey hendrickson hello, tjwatt hello and it's like oh boy,
like I'm gonna be the bearer ofbad news to you guys, I hope so
.
Right, wait, wait, I hope goget them right.
But at the same time, I'm likeI don't foresee that.

(01:27:50):
I mean, we, we essentiallydrafted two corners in the
seventh round.
Do you think goody's going outto grab one of the premier pass
rushers in the league?
I, I hope so, but I don't thinkso.
So where, where are you atright now with this extra cap
space?
What are you thinking?
What are they going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
I think you nailed them all.
I mean, I feel like you know,the one thing that they always
say that packers always do iswhen they, when they sign their
own players.
The argument is that, oh,they're just signing their own
players, and reality is they'rejust.
They are signed free agents orpotential free agents that just
signed their guys that beforethey hit the market right, and,
um you know, zach thomas has tobuy his contract here, uh,

(01:28:26):
actually, uh, during otas, andhe's just like, hey, I'm just
waiting for that to play out.
So I'm pretty sure this money'sgonna open up you.
You nailed them all, wyatt quay.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
I think with wyatt, they may wait out to see yeah,
it's gonna be a play it outbecause they got those two
stackhouse and uh, who's theother guy?
Brinson, brinson yeah, two guysfrom georgia.
So it's gonna be if those guysproduce yeah, colby wouldn't
look like he gained like hugeman 300 now, like he came in at

(01:28:56):
278 he looks like you move ahouse and then something like he
looks he looks, yeah, I'm likeall right.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Well, if you get him to like 293 hundred, yeah, like
for him to play nose tackle,he's gonna get had to get kenny
clarkway, which is like roughlyaround, like, say, clark, I
think plays around 330, 320.
So you got to get a little bitbigger.
But I'm telling you like it'sone of those things where if
they make a move like treyhendrickson, you're like all
right, um, you make that move.

(01:29:24):
You do make people kind offorget about the gyre thing.
But again, I don't see thepackers operating that way.
If anything, I could see theeagles, because they just do
crazy stuff anyways.
I can see them trade for tjwatt.
I can see them trade forfreaking hendrickson hell.
I can see them pick up gyre too, because christian parker
christian parker, the, I think,assistant that we had in our

(01:29:45):
defense group he's a DB coachthere and I could see him trying
to go play with him.
But I'm with you, I thinkthey're going to probably spend
that money in-house.
They're going to carry some ofthat money over for next year.
I don't know if Elton's going toget a new contract, but I think
they're going to restructure ina way to where he gets the
majority of the money in hiscurrent contract the majority of
the money in his currentcontract, I feel like Elton is
the dude that deserves a thirdcontract.
That's a scary thing, right,because the guys that do get

(01:30:10):
third contracts are the onesthat normally get banged up,
like D-Bock Rodgers and then nowKenny Clark.
Every single one of them got athird contract.
Every single one of them gothurt.
So I don't want to wish illwill, because I love my man,
elton Jenkins.
I love him to death.
But if anyone's going to beplaying center and he just wants
to get his money, I would giveit to him.
I'd make it work.
I think they're going to try todo that and try to see if Jacob
Monk can take over that job ina couple years, right, but he's

(01:30:34):
a natural center out of Duke,right?
So that makes sense.
I'm with you, though.
They're going to find a way tomake that money work in.
If they did something crazy andwent for someone like I know
Jalen Ramsey's out there.
I don't want anything to dowith Ramsey.
I understand Ramsey's a hotname, he's a hot corner, but I
just he's a hot man.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
He's worse than Jair.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Honestly, and I just don't think he performs that
well on the field.
I don't feel like he's alockdown corner like Jair was,
or like when you see guys likeAJ Terrell, you see the Trent
McDuffie's out of Kansas City.
These are the kind of dudesthat will lock you up.
Like you know, that's it.
Like you know.
Even and I hate to admit itJalen Johnson.
Jalen Johnson pisses me off.

(01:31:12):
He's on the Bears, right, butthe guy can play Like I'm not
saying he's he's probably atop-ten corner, but those are
guys that actually have the.
When they put lock down andthey take over half a field.
How, like Richard Sherman needsto do that back in the day.
You know, those are the kind ofguys doing Joe Ramsey.
I feel like it's just not thatguy.
You know, I agree and I feellike last thing I feel like if
we do invest in the in the passrush, I 100% feel then that'll

(01:31:34):
make the secondary look a littlebit better.
I'm holding out hope thatCarrington Valentine just keeps
going in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
I'm not following the hops.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Nate hops to me I feel like is, uh, he's like a
dog kind of player he has.
He has a dog in him.
I feel like he's very, verylike um c ball get ball kind of
guy.
Uh, his injuries do concern me.
He's always had injuries andwhen he was over there and I
don't feel like I feel like wegot a lesser version of jayu
with the same injury history toa certain degree with him no, I
agree, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
I just say, I just say it's an improvement over
Eric Stokes.
That's all I got to say.
Oh, 100% that I agree, that I100% agree.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
He unfortunately set a low bar after he got hurt.
Before he got hurt he had somuch potential, so much
potential.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
He just lost foot speed when he got hurt and that
was the biggest problem.
So, umber, I got to run.
I mean we got holy crap, we ranlong again, but that's okay, I
got to run here, but I'm goingto let everybody know where to
find you out there, of course,man, just find me on Twitter at
AMER3455.

Speaker 2 (01:32:29):
Find us on Coast to Coast Packers on Game On
Wisconsin, normally weekly.
We missed last week, just hadsome stuff going on, but we're
trying to get back this week.
We're going to try to touch onthings that are going on.
When it comes to the drilling,you know the seven on seven, 11
on 11 drills.
We're seeing some real goodcommand by Jordan Love and I

(01:32:52):
know it's, you know it's minicamp, but people are saying that
he looks like it's his offenseand people weren't really saying
that the last two years, so I'mreally looking forward to
seeing it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Love to hear it.
Love to hear it.
Make sure you guys check out.
I'm in there, make sure youguys are checking out coast to
coast Packers.
We'll talk more Packers herecoming up this week Probably
probably, as he said there's.
Make sure you're keeping an eyeout for that there.
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So I want to talk a little bitof brewers.
I had a lot of questions comingabout the brewers here and I
asked a question on social mediathere the other day after this
last weekend.
So there it was.
It was a subpar weekend, as Italked about earlier for the
brewers.
They had a lot.
It was a lot of winnable games.

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That's all you can really sayis it was a lot of winnable
games and I set out on socialmedia.
I said I truly believe thatthis team can compete with just
one anybody.
I said a point blank I thinkthey can.
I think they can truly competewith just about anybody out
there.
But but this offense is veryhot and cold, very hot and cold.
I said that the other day.
I said it's just like JacksonTurio's bat.

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I mean Jackson Turio has beenthe definition of hot and cold
and that's where I'm kind of atwith this Brewer team right now.
They are very hot and cold onthe offensive side and I said
this pitching staff's been good.
I mean they have been.
They've been really good guyshave laid here, especially over
this last month.
This pitch has been great.
I mean quinn priester's beenfantastic deal.
Hall's been good as an opener.
Uh, we've had.
Savalli came back.
He's been pitching well.
Freddie peralta's put some goodoutings out there.

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They've had a lot of guys throwsome good outings and I mean,
look at that padre series.
They lost a couple of gameswhere I mean you put across two
runs, they win.
I mean that's that's what thispitching staff's been able to
produce for you and you havejust struggled that mightily and
that's a problem.
That's, that's the problem.
I mean you, you look at it, youlost one to nothing against san
diego, you lost two to nothingagainst san diego and you won

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four to three.
I mean your pitching staff isdoing what they have to do.
Your offense is just not there,not existing at times.
So I asked a question.
I said this point give me yourthoughts on this team.
I want to hear your guys'thoughts on this team and I had
a lot of people answer, so Iwant to get some of the answers.
I had Caden over on Facebook.

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He said we need guys likeWilliam Contreras to heat up.
I know he's been playing with afractured finger, but he's
definitely not carrying hisweight offensively Additionally.
Additionally, I personallythink Murphy needs to try and
wiggle Jake Bowers in the lineupmore often, as he's been a
strong hitter despite notgetting consistent playing time.
100% agree on the Jake Bowersthing.
You've got to find a way to puthim in the outfield or in a DH
role.
Give Yelich nights off.

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We saw it last night there whenthey played the Braves there in
one.
They gave Yelich a night off.
Jake Bowers and Reese Hoskinsare both in the lineup.
That's something that I thinkyou have to do more often there,
because Yelich, put him in theoutfield, put him in there for
Isaac Collins.
Whatever you got to do, maybeput Jake Bowers in the outfield
for Isaac Collins at times.

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Any way you got to do it.
But find a way.
I agree with him, get him inthere.
William Kacharis, you have tofind a way.
You have to find a way to beconsistent at the plate, because
if you are just a non-factorand you're simple, the excuse or
whatever we want to pull hereis well, he's got a fractured
finger.
I love the I'm playing throughit mentality but at the same

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time you have to be able toproduce that, because if you're
not, then you might as well notbe playing through it, if that
makes sense.
So that's where I'm kind of atright now.
Uh, ryan larson, he said oneword offense.
The offense just flat outcosting us winnable games.
I think.
On the radio today they saidthat the two losses this series
they left on 11 runners on eachgame.
That's 22 left on.

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And then I saw I I actually sawa stat that said I saw another
stat where the Brewers have beenshut out while leaving 10-plus
on base six times in the last 10years.
Three of those were in the last30 days.
So that tells you where thisteam's at right now.
Leaving guys on base has been aproblem for this Brewers team.
So I mean, just in all theanswers that I had really, I
mean across were essentially thesame thing Very streaky at the

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plate.
A lot of people come with verystreaky at the plate.
This team has hot and cold.
Guys need to step up.
You need to have betweenContreras and Hoskins and
Yellich, those guys need to stepup.
And then other people weretelling me Ortiz and that needs
to go down.
So just a lot of the same Avery hot and cold offense right
now, and that is what people areseeing.

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And that is what people areseeing and that's what the
problem with a lot of people isthis offense so hot and cold.
They don't have a lot of powerin this lineup.
That's leading to their problem.
So I had a lot of questions.
I had one come across should thebrewers keep running out ortiz
and durbin?
If not, who should they replacehim with?
That?
That's a toughie, because youknow it's like ortiz.
Whenever I talk crap aboutortiz, he finds a way to get a
hit right.
He had a big hit.
That's what got the Brewers onthe board a couple nights ago.

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And then he got the Brewers onthe board there early in this
last night's game there.
He got on and then Churrio hita home run to bring him in.
So I mean, ortiz has beenswinging a better bat.
Now am I going to sit here andtell you that he's been swinging
a great bat?
No, not at all.
He has not been swinging agreat bat.

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Has he been swinging a betterbat, a better one?
It's not very hard to be betterthan what he was right.
And I think honestly and thisis my opinion on it right Over
the last seven games he's hit227, so it's not great, but in
my opinion, on it right Over thelast seven games, he's hit 227,
so it's not great.

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But in my opinion you reallylook at it you could hide a guy
like Joey Ortiz in a lineup.
If and if William Contreras ishitting, churrio's hitting,
hoskins is hitting, sal'shitting like he is right now,
terang's hitting, jake Bowers ishitting you have guys hitting
around him.
You can hide them.
You amplify a guy wheneverybody else is struggling
Yelich is struggling, these guysare struggling, and then Joey

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Ortiz is struggling on top ofthat.
It really puts that oh yeah,now we really notice Joey Ortiz
right, that's where I think it's.
You have a lot of guys in thisBrewers lineup where they're
also struggling.
So it really shows Joey.
Joey Ortiz was never.
I mean, if anybody looked atJoey Ortiz and they're like man,
I was expecting him to be a 270hitter.
All of a sudden it wasn't it.

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I mean back in 2023, he hit 212in 33 at-bats.
Last season he hit 238.
I mean he had a better stretchto start the year but then ended
up getting hurt and then itwent downhill.
And this season I mean, thisyear he's been 190, so it's not
great, not at all great.
It's terrible if you reallylook at the metrics.
But I just I mean you can finda better like would I send him

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down right now?
Probably I would have sent himdown already.
If I was going to do it, Iwould have sent him down.
I would have sent them downalready If I was going to do it.
I sent down.
I'd add my stereo step in fornow I was sent them down and
just try to hard reset, see ifhe can figure it out.
But would you almost be lookingat a move right now to try and
bring somebody in to replaceeither Durbin or Joey Ortiz and

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then slide the other one aroundwhich tried to find a third
baseman?
What?
What are you looking for rightnow, could you?
Could you foresee that in as atemporary solution?
That's where I would kind of bewith that right now is.
You know durbin's had some hits,so is ortiz as of late here.
It's the whole package.
That's the struggle.
So can you get rid of them both?

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No, I don't think so.
So which one are you better offwithout?
I don't think durbin.
I don't think so.
So which one are you better offwithout?
I don't think Durbin.
I don't think it's an everydaystarter.
I've been that way since thebeginning when they got him.
I just don't see him as aneveryday starter.
I'm seeing him as a superutility.
I don't see him as an everydaystarter.
Joey Ortiz I, he's a starter,but he's not a consistent bat,

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not a threat consistently.
So I think people were justkind of trying to make him to be
something that he was, wasn'treally.
He just never was a greathitter.
He hasn't been.
Maybe it changes.
Maybe it changes.
I hope so, but I just don'tthink he's been it.
So right now, what should I keepdoing at this point?
If you're the brewers, do youkeep running them out?

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If you think you have a betteroption for now, yeah, you send
them down to the Miners.
He's got options.
Send them down there, see ifyou can have a hard reset.
Come back up If you feel likemaybe at some point he's going
to find it, then you're leavinghim up.
But in my opinion, I'm sendingthem down for a little bit here
for a hard reset.
I would have already done itwith Joey Ortiz.
I would have sent him down, hada hard reset, see if he can

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figure it out.
Bring him back up quick.
I mean, send him down for 10days, whatever, and then bring
him back.
I think that would be okay.
Durbin, I think you're gettingwhat you're going to get

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no-transcript that start onThursday there.
So the question I had, or that Igot, was how well do you think
Jacob Mizorowski will do in thislevel?
Also, how will he be an impacton the rotation?
I think he's going to be a hugeimpact on the rotation coming
in.
He's been fantastic.
Jacob Mizorowski has beenfantastic down in the minors for

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the Brewers this season so farand I mean he's been putting
together.
My biggest question with JacobMizorowski when he was first
coming up was he had the hardstuff right.
But sometimes guys with thehard stuff comes the struggle
with with location, withaccuracy, and it was like, okay,
is he going to be able totranslate that to the next level
?
So far this year in the minors2.13 era, 12 starts, 13 games in

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total.
He's pitched so far four andtwo records, 63 innings pitch.
He's got 15 earned runs and thestrikeout numbers through the
roof.
They're already at 80strikeouts.
80 strikeouts are ready thisseason.
You look at last season there,in total, across two minor
league teams, he had 127strikeouts.
Year before that, in acrossthree teams, he had 110.

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So already the strikeoutnumbers are way up and that's
huge.
So I think he's going to have ahuge impact.
I mean, you see what he can do.
It's just going to be a questionof does he stay in the rotation
?
Because you have a lot of guysin the rotation.
So Valley's in there, freddie'sin there, quinn Priester's been
fantastic, so is Chad PatrickI'm missing a guy Quintana is
also in there.
So you already have yourfive-man rotation.

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Where does Jacob Miserelski fitin that?
Is he going to be a floater?
Because you still have LoganHenderson down there.
So my question would be do youconsider a trade right now?
Right, because I'm going todouble down on the questions.
I have the question of what doyou do with the Ortiz and Durbin
.
I have the question of what'sJacob Mizorowski going to do?

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I have two really good startersthat are coming in between the
minors and the big leagues.
Right now I have Freddy Peralta.
Do you make a move?
Do you call out and say, hey, Igot Freddie.
Does anybody have a thirdbaseman?
Does anybody have a shortstopthat they're willing to look at

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moving Potential moves.
This would be a decent thought,I would say, because, freddie,
you've got an option for nextyear.
You're probably not going tosign him long-term because you
do have a lot of pitchers inyour arsenal right now.
Quintana is a guy who he's on aone-year deal.
He could possibly move on.
Savalli maybe he's on a smallercontract, some of those small
ones.
I don't know if I'd move onfrom no-transcript.

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Do you consider possibly movingon from a guy like Freddie?
That's an interesting thought.
So I kind of liked that onethere.
Outside of that, I did have onemore question that I had, and
this one was grade the Brewers'first part of the season.
Grade the Brewers all we'veseen so far, wow, that's tough.

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I should have looked at thatone a little bit earlier.
I didn't get to look at thatone over, but grade the Brewers'
first part of the season.
I'd give them a solid year 36and 32 right now if I was
grading them.
Up until this point, c+Pitching's been good.
Offense has not been good.
It was always.

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The offense could do justenough.
They could get you a run.
Then the pitching staff had tohold it back.
Remember that back in the day,when it used to be, the pitching
staff had to find a way just tohold it.
Now it's like the pitchingstaff has got it, basically
throw a shutout and the offensemaybe you'll get you a run,
maybe we'll get you a run, andit's gonna be a struggle if that
.
So I would say probably around acc plus is where I would grade

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the brewers right now.
That's kind of where I'm at.
I'd love to hear you guys areat 715-990-4914.
That's 715-990-4914.
That's 715-990-4914.
I'd love to hear what you guysthink where you're at with this
Brewers team.
Where would you grade themright now through that first
half?
That was a good question that Ihad out there.
So outside of that, the Brewers,they're going to finish this
series, as you guys know,prerecorded here.

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So as the Brewers are finishingup this series, they so far won
one in the series against theBraves.
They're going to play gamethree here, 1-10 start there,
and then they're going to havethe Cardinals coming up this
weekend for a four-game setcoming up this weekend.
That will be starting Thursday.
Mizorowski is going to make thestart, then Gattana, then we're
going to see Peralta and thenSavalli against St Louis there.

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That's going to be in AmericanFamily Field and then they're
going to take on Chicago, theTwins, pittsburgh.
So they got a couple of goodseries coming up there with
Chicago and the Twins.
So it's going to be I mean sometough, good series coming up
here against some winning ballclubs that the Brewers I mean.
Right now they're trailing ateam like the Cubs, they're
trailing a team like St Louis.
Some ability right now for theBrewers to make up some ground.

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They have that ability to makeup ground right now and this is
a good time to do it.
We'll see what the Brewers dothere.
A lot of good series coming uphere.
We're going to get more intothe Brewers when we come back
here next Wednesday.
Lots to get into.
I didn't get into a lot tonightbecause of everything else
that's been going on around thesporting world.
So we'll make sure to get outof here for the night.

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