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Speaker 2 (00:32):
How we doing everybody and welcome into
Wisconsin.
Sports on the go with Trage.
I'm your host, trage, it isSunday, championship Sunday.
Right, it's championship Sunday.
Everybody is just hooting andhollering If you're from philly,
because you know philadelphiaeagles.
Moving on to the super bowl.
There, the rest of america islike eh, and we were hoping for

(00:52):
jayden daniels, but hey, aaron'shappy, so that's what matters
here right now.
The chiefs and bills that's adog fight 22, 21 as they go in
the third there.
So we're going to keep an eyeon that as we go along here.
But right now, I mean, the onlysave, the only savior that we
have left that can save thefootball season is Josh Allen.
That's it.
That's all we got Josh Allen,boys, we got to root for him.

(01:14):
This is all we got.
Jane Daniels is gone.
Okay, jordan love way gone.
He's been gone for a while now.
It's all up to Josh Allen If wehave to watch patch mahomes and
the chiefs take on the eaglesround two, right part two.
Oh yay, part two again.
I'm gonna lose it.
I'm gonna lose it.
I just can't handle it there.
But hey, we got lots.
Get into today lots ofwisconsin stuff.
Get into.

(01:34):
We don't care that much aboutpatch bones, we're gonna get
into a lot of wisconsin stufftoday.
Aaron is with me today.
Aaron, how we doing?
It's sunday night.
You're feeling frisky.
The eagles got the win,philly's probably.
I mean the bars are probablylit up right now.
It's like pandemonium out there.
How are we doing?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
yeah, I mean you got what you gotta.
Grease the poles right, that'swhat they say.
Grease the poles up.
Uh, yeah, I mean I can't lie toyou.
As much as I downplay the nfl attimes to be super like it's it,
for me it's always super bowlor bus, like making the playoffs
is whatever, like if you canget all the way there, it'll be
great.
I mean, I'm elated.
I will say I'm not going to rubit in whatever you want to say,

(02:12):
but I'm happy, I'm over themoon a little bit.
But you know, like Kobe said,man, if you get to the Super
Bowl and you lose, what's that?
I hate that.
It was a good season.
I hate that If you don't winthe Super Bowl, I don't care, I
don't, I really don't.
So it's like Kobe said, youknow, job's not finished, job's
not finished.
So happy to be here If we have.

(02:34):
You know, if the Eagles go on toplay the Chiefs, it's playing
the Chiefs and the refs.
And, like you said, part two iskind of I, I I'd kind of like
it, rather see it be the billsas well, just from a fan
perspective.
Like the cheese is like okay,it feels like the Patriots now,
like it's the same thing overand over, but yeah, long story
short, pretty pretty happy.

(02:55):
I mean just, you knowWashington was just kind of
outmatched out there, so movingon.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's a good day for Eagle fan right?
It's a good day there, and youknow what you want to make
yourselves feel better if you'rea Packer fan.
Actually, I don't know if thismakes you feel better.
It didn't make me feel betterIn the last.
This was from Zach Cruz.
He's over there on Twitterthere In the last six years of

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the Matt LaFleur.
It's gotta be so that brings youback to the square one of the
whole matt lafleur argument isis he good enough to get you
over the hump, right?
Is he good enough to take youto that next level?
Because right now, if you lookat the history, right, everybody
wants to go with historicalstats to look at what to look at
here.

(03:48):
Matt lafleur, in sixopportunities, has lost to the
nfc champion, or four times,four times.
You can look at that as beingwell.
We lost to the team that wentto the super bowl.
That's cool, right.
But you can also look at it asif we would have beat that team,
the Eagles.
If we would have beat theEagles, played the Rams and then

(04:09):
would have ended up playing theCommanders because the Packers
have won that trip, right?
Because, honestly, if you lookat that, you wouldn't have
played the Rams, right, youwould have ended up playing the
Lions.
You would have ended up playingthe Lions, right, like the
Commanders did.
The ended up.
You would ended up playing thelions.
You'd ended up playing thelions, right, like the
commanders did.
The packers saw that.
I mean they played the lionstwice and they played them
pretty well.
I mean they didn't get over thehump.

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But it's like you look back atthis, you look at that path and
you're like, could they havegotten over that hump?
And it's just, you always gotthat could have, could they,
could they have.
And it's now you look towardsthe future with matt lafleur.
Now you look towards the futurewith Matt LaFleur.
Can he, can he, can he beatthat team right, if Gutekinds
goes out this offseason and getshim, let's just say, a Max

(04:52):
Crosby or I mean way out there,right Miles Garrett or a guy
like DK Metcalf from that widereceiver room, can Matt LaFleur
be the guy to take you over thathump.
That's what we wait and see now.
That that's that's why I thinkthis season is it's a lot of
Matt LaFleur's career right here, right here with the Packers at

(05:13):
least, because when I look atit, I'm like the windows open
right now.
I don't know how much more of awindow you can open up.
It's going to be next year,after this, next year, the year
after, where you're going to geteven more cap space, because
you will lose the devondrecampbell and I believe there's
another contract I don't knowwhich one, but it's still on the
books there but you're going tolose those contracts, those
that come off the books.
You are going to have more withjordan love there.

(05:34):
You're going to have more withsome other guys there and trying
to keep guys around, but I meanthe the book.
The book on matt lafleur, Idon't know.
We talked about ben johnson'scomments the other day as like,
not adam, but until matt lafleurdoes something, everybody can
poke shots, everybody.
They're not friends.

(05:55):
I get that.
The comments that he made werethey, you know, justified?
I don't know.
But until he proves it, till heproves that he can beat one of
these teams and go on a run andget to the NFC Championship game
and get over that hump.
I mean Dan Campbell.
I love Dan Campbell, right.
I love what Dan Campbell's donewith Detroit Lions and he has

(06:16):
given himself a leeway forprobably about 10 years.
I don't know because the waythat that organization was
before he got there to now, he'sbought himself a lot of time.
But when I look at dan campbellit's like he's got to get over
it eventually, right?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
kyle shanahan yeah, he's been right like holy cow.
I mean, how long is that going?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
on yep, they got to get over that hump, they got to
get to that next level and it'sa question of can they get there
?
That's going to define.
You know, it's like you alwayssay with mike tomlin you, you
don't like Mike Tomlin, simplybecause Mike Tomlin, he gets you
500.
He gets you a winning record,he gets you into the playoffs
but doesn't win you any playoffgames.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
And I don't want to sound like it's every year.
Honestly, there's limitationsto teams.
We can look at certain Packersteams like teams, like that team
isn't going to go to thecerebral.
Or like a certain eagles teamthey're, they're, they're a 10
and 7 style team.
My argument is always you know,if you have the talent in-house
, right like kyle shanahan, he Imean, how many years of that
crap is going on?

(07:15):
You know, yeah, if I'm a 49ersfan, I'm like look this guy,
he's the guy that can get you.
You know, he's the chauffeurand he'll get you like 400 feet
to like right before where youneed to go Right.
You're 400 feet like towardsyour destiny.
Oh, I'm going to drop you offhere.
It's like, dude, you neverfinished the job and it's not
all coaching.
I get that, it's like, butwe're talking about a

(07:37):
results-based business and I'min the floor.
You know you take over afranchise.
It's a dumpster fire.
The Packers are never adumpster fire and I can
definitely have respect for that.
It's not like the freakingTennessee Titans where it's like
holy crap, can you win morethan three games a year?
That's a challenge half thetime.
But you know, you come into asituation with Aaron Rodgers, I

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think I just I've never been inlove with Aaron Rodgers.
In the playoffs I almost putmore on him than LaFleur.
Now you have a youngerquarterback.
You know the ceiling's high butyou know he kind of regressed
this year.
Now is that injury?
Like there's so many questionsand it's like I said at certain
points in guys' careers it's putup or shut up, like I think
it's been put up or shut up forMike Tomlin for five years, but

(08:21):
now people are putting them onthe hot seat and he probably
still won't get canned foranother two years at the very
least with the same results.
But I mean you got to just lookat yourself in the mirror and
say you know when, when you knowwhat's it going to take.
Is it more talent?
Is it, is it better coachesaround it?
Like something you know.
You, you want to raise the bar.
You like every team wants to goto Super Bowl and certain teams

(08:43):
try to like I try harder thanothers.
I think there's teams out therethat are like, what are the
Raiders doing?
Like they're just spinningtheir tires forever.
Basically, you bring in PeteCarroll.
Okay, we're going to completelyswitch things up.
Yeah, I guess the Packers arein a situation where they're
good, it's like that good togreat, to elite conversation

(09:04):
where it, where it's like how dohow do we make steps forward?
Cause staying the same sucks, Iwould argue.
Staying the same as the worst,honestly, then then backtracking
and restarting sometimes is isbetter, I mean look at the lines
with Dan Campbell.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yep, yep, no, 100%.
If you're not progressing,you're regressing.
That's all that it is.
You can't, you can't staystagnant.
You have to get better, alongwith teams right with you,
because we expect the Bears aregoing to get better right, I
don't know, but we expect it.
The Lions constantly comingback now the Vikings underneath
Kevin O'Connell he's beenfantastic.
So the NFC North is a gooddivision now.
So you have to progress withthem now.

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And who do you blame at the endof the day?
Right, you have to come out ofevery season and you have to say
why didn't it work?
What was the reason why itdidn't work?
Do you want to look back toGutekens' draft classes?
Were draft classes not goodenough there?
Or that draft class for thatseason?
Was it not good enough?
The guys that he got the yearbefore, did they not progress
enough?
Is it the defensive line coach?

(09:59):
Right, they fired the defensiveline coach.
They thought he was the issue,so they got rid of him there.
Hopefully that helps out there.
You look at the offense there.
What's going to fix the slowstarts?
That's a question Matt LaFleurhas to answer.
Why do his guys look like theydon't come out with the fire?
Another question Matt LaFleurhas to answer the special teams.
I would get rid of Basaccia.
I don't know why we keepbringing them back.

(10:22):
That's a question that needs tobe answered.
Every single year we have aspecial teams problem.
We hopefully have the kickerfigured out.
Hopefully the Packers get uh,brandon McManus back because
from what?
Everything that I saw, he wassolid.
I mean he missed that one kickagainst the Eagles there and
outside of that he was solid allseason long.
So I cannot blame that guy forone missed kick in the playoffs,
like that's for what he did forthe Packers or before that.

(10:44):
I'm good with him there.
I mean they have a lot ofquestions that they have going
into this off season.
We're gonna I mean we got lotsof weeks to answer all those
questions right.
The NFL off season seems totake forever.
Combine is going to be comingup, they're going to have all
the pro days, everything likethat.
So we're going to have a lot ofanswers to a lot of our
questions, with even what BrianGutekinds is going to want to do
out there in free agency.
So we'll kind of see what hedoes there.

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I did see before we get there.
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But I want to get into a littlebit more Brewer talk.

(11:51):
Today I saw across social media.
I saw a little comment, or acommenter today sent this to me
Jesus Maid is the youngestprospect on the MLB Top 100 list
.
He's 17 years old.
17 years old.
Think about that for a second.

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I mean, that's high school.
You're still in a high schoolage and you're in the top 100
for MLB prospects.
That's unreal, that's just.
That is awesome.
So I mean the Brewers got a guylike that down in the system
there.
You love to see that, aaron.
You had the list up before top100 prospects.
Did you find the other fourBrewers?
It was Jefferson Cuero's onthere, jesus Made Jacob
Mizorowski and then Cooper Prattare all on there.

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Where are they ranked right nowWithin that top 100?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, so first one, you know we come down here at 47
is Cuero, the catcher.
Also, I mean, a lot of theseguys are young, right, but 22
years old Jesus, made like yousaid, 17.
Crazy, cooper Pratt, 20 yearsold Jesus at 56.
Cooper at 57, respectfully.
And then you work your way downa little bit further here,

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rounding out the last guy youknow, mr Irrelevant, if you will
right, almost at 100 there, butnot to be forgotten is Jacob
Mizorowski.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I hopefully didn't butcher that too much.
Jacob Mizorowski, you got herspot on.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Right-handed pitcher 6'7", I mean Josh Hader 2.0,
right, that dude chops gas.
You want to see some phenomenalmovement on pitches.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Right-handed pitcher six foot seven I mean josh hater
2.0, right like that dudechucks gas.
You want to see some phenomenalmovement on pitches?
Look up jacob mizorowski.
That breaking stuff is nasty.
He strikes you out while you'resitting there watching him
strike that's how nasty it is.
You're like how do guys evenlook at that?
I didn't see that.
I didn't even see it break.
Jacob Mizorowski is going to bea dog when he gets up to the

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big league level and he might bea guy where we could see him
this next season.
I really do believe he might bea guy where he could be on the
fast track.
I don't think he's going to bea starter though he's a starter
down in the minors.
I don't think he's going to bebe a starter.
I think they bring him up thecorbin burns route.
I think they put him in thebullpen.

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I think they let him sit outthere, get his stuff ready like
2018 corbin burns.
Get him on the bullpen, let himget to his stuff, figure it out
, get comfortable at the bigleague level and then move him
into starting rotation.
I think that's the way you workit and I would love it.
That dude's got some gas.
He.
The problem with him is withthat gas.
It's the stamina.
He has problems going over likefour innings.

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That was his biggest problem.
It was getting past that fourthinning and staying in control
and staying in command ofeverything.
So that's the one thing towatch out for with him.
But that dude, he's going to bea problem.
He's going to be a problem foropposing hitters when he gets up
there.
Jesus made fantastic to all the,all the videos that I've seen
off Jesus made down therehitting that dude.

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He's got a smooth, smoothstroke.
We could see him.
He's not coming up this year.
Like nobody freak out and thinkwe're gonna have a 17 year old
in the bigs this year.
I'm gonna say he could probablybe like a 19, 20 year old in
the league, so like a JacksonChurrio kind of route.
I think he could be up thatfast.
Cooper Pratt too I think he'sgoing to be a guy.
We could be talking about himin a couple of years.
I really do.
He's fantastic.

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Jefferson Quero we talked abouthim the other day.
I don't know.
I don't know because you haveyou have William Cont and backup
catcher.
Do you want him to be a backupcatcher and not get consistent
time?
Because then you're notdeveloping a prospect, then
you're letting him sit and sulk,so it's like you almost leave
him down.
You almost leave him down thereand then it's like he's not

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getting time at the big.
So you never know what he isright.
So it's going to be hard to seewhat's going to happen with
Jefferson Cuero For me.
If a team out there wants a high, highly rated prospect, a
catcher, I might try to swing atrade.
I really would.
I might try to swing a tradewith, let's just say I don't
know there's some teams outthere with third basement where

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you could be like, hey, I gotJefferson Cuero, he's top
prospect here, he's one of thetop prospects in all baseball.
I mean top 100 lists.
He's up there at pretty high.
We could ship him off to you,maybe, slap on a couple of
pitching prospect or somethingto go along with them.
And I don't know, maybe likethe Phillies, the Phillies maybe

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they would look to move AlecBoehm.
Yet I don't know, like I meanJT, real Muto is only getting
older Right AT.
Real Muto is only getting olderright and you're going to need
to catch her eventually, right.
And Jefferson Cuero is in AAAright now.
Last season we didn't get toreally see him right because he
got hurt, but he's in AAA.
You know he's got a boatload oftalent.
Trust me, watching him inspring training, that dude can
chuck out a lot of guys.
He has got a cannon of an armso you watch him down there, the

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Phill tape on them, which theyshould be able to find the tape
on them.
I mean, I, I could see a teamlike the phillies being like,
hey, we need a guy to, you know,step up here and be the
youthful catcher that we couldneed down the road, because jt's
not gonna be there for a longtime and I don't know who the
catcher prospects are for thephillies, but I would imagine
they're probably not higher thanjefferson cuero is and probably
not highly touted likejefferson cuero.

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It's like I don't know.
That could be a team, right.
That could be a team where youreach out and you're like we
know you guys aren't sure abouttrade or getting rid of Alec
Boehm, but here's our offer, seewhat you want, right, so it's.
I mean, there's all thoseoptions out there and that would
be definitely something.
If I'm the Brewers I'm lookingat, I want to continue this talk
.
I want to continue this talk.
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So I wanted to get to.
We do have one text and this iswhat I want to get to.
When we came back, before wegot to the badgers here, um, we
got one across texan line and doyou think high schoolers should
be considered as a prospect?
That's interesting.
So I would have to ask thisperson if they could elaborate

(18:44):
Is that before they got draftedor is this when they get drafted
?
Because technically, when theyget drafted, they're already
technically a prospect, so thenthey'd be in that ranking there,
but is it before they getdrafted?
Are lists for, like, top highschool prospects?
There are lists out there thatyou can get different, like if

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they go to different camps or ifthey're a part of different
programs, they'll rank them onthere.
I know there's one, uh, pbr.
I got.
Pbr is a pb, pb, something inthe state of wisconsin.
I see there are a coupledifferent things in the state of
wisconsin for them there, butuh, they do.
They do a rankings list whereguys can go there and show off
their skills and everything likethat, like arms speed, velocity

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or whatever you are.
If you're an infielder, you'rean outfielder, you're a pitcher,
you're just looking for hitting.
They'll show all your differentmetrics and they'll put it all
up on the site for you, and thenthey'll have it all there.
Oh, here we go.
Here's the question.
Here's another question, forit's real fast here.
Should they be able to getdrafted out of high school?

Speaker 3 (19:49):
I don't see why.
Why not, right?
I?
I mean jeter jeter is one thatcomes to my mind that, uh, oh no
, he went on and played atmichigan, or did maybe he
dreamed of going on to play atmichigan baseball's different
baseball's, different like youlook at.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Okay, like hypothetically, football is
impossible.
You ain't getting drafted outof high school to play football,
unless if you're just like Imean thor or the hulk, you know,
walking out there.
You ain't getting draftedstraight out of high school
playing the nfl.
The nba, I would say, is evendifferent.
I don't see many high schoolathletes like everybody's I.
This is is going to piss off alot of people when I say this.

(20:25):
So just wait for this one.
This is going to fire up a lotof people.
I am not that impressed withCooper Flagg From Duke.
Everybody's like oh, these NBAplayers are like this is the
greatest thing.
This is the greatest guy I'veever played against.
He's got so much talent.
He's going to be the next star.
He's going to be the next star.
He's going to be the next thisand that.
I watch my Duke.
He's got a lot of growing to do.
Be honest with you, and it'sgoing to tick off.

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If anybody out there is a Dukefan watching, they're pissed.
They're like slamming theirkeyboard against the wall right
now.
They're pissed right.
They're like what is this idiottalking about?
He's got a lot of growing to doand, honestly, I look at him
and I'm like they thought thatcoming out of high school he was
playing NBA guys coming out ofhigh school and they thought

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this was the next dude.
And I watched my Duke and I'mlike he's got a lot of.
He's got a lot of growing to do.
He's got a lot of things he'sgot to fix before he can be at
the next level, be in the NBAand be successful.
Baseball you're in the minorsfor a while, unless if you're
like a Jackson Turio or you're asuperstar, right, a perennial
superstar like Juan Soto, right,juan Soto went to the minors

(21:28):
pretty fast there too.
Look at a lot of these otherguys.
They're like four, five, sixyears in the minors before we
ever even figure out who theyare.
I mean, baseball is different.
I think baseball, yeah, yeah,you should be able to draft out
of high school because, honestly, if you go to college for
baseball like unless if thatteam that drafts you is going to

(21:49):
start you out at, let's justsay, the triple, like the double
a level I mean the double alevel at least you're 22 years
old already by the time you getout of school.
Four years, right, I mean 18,19, 20, 21.
You're about 22 years oldbefore you start your big league
career and you get down thereand maybe they put you in like
high a and now you got to workyour way from high a all the way

(22:11):
up.
I most of the guys that getdrafted out of high school are
all they're like.
They're, they got the talent,they're ready, they're gonna
succeed at the next level.
The other guys go to college.
So I don't go to college, so Idon't have a problem with it.
I don't have a problem withguys getting drafted out of high
school for baseball.
Football is never going to doit.
Basketball they've done it, butI just don't see it really

(22:31):
working in today's leagues.
I think it's too fast.
I think guys are too big.
I think that they wouldn't beable to keep up in the game and
I think they'd just be a bust.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
They wouldn't be able to figure it out fast enough
and people would give up on them.
So I, I can't see it in anyother leagues, but in baseball,
yes.
Yes, I could see it definitelyworking there.
Yeah, I, I definitely agree.
I mean, I think with baseballthough that's the thing, like I
mean, if you play it like asouth carolina or like, uh,
texas or like you know, there'ssome marquee school schools like
you play really goodcompetition, it could be a good
thing for you.
Um, now, like you said, if youcome out late like you're a
senior and then you get draftedand stuff like that.

(23:09):
But I still think I meanbaseball.
You know, harper, uh soto, allthose guys started like they,
all of them had to make theirpath right.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Christian, yelich like these guys, no, matter how
good you were, didn't he?
He was juco too, wasn't't heyeah?

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, yeah.
So that's the thing, like nomatter how good you are coming
out of high school, college,like you have to prove it at the
next level.
You know, you know these guys Imean Jackson holiday was in,
was in summer league ball for alittle bit Um, you know, we've
seen guys down there in Floridaand like in different leagues
and everything like baseball,the grind to get to the show is

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is the ultimate grind.
Like you have to prove it atevery level.
So I mean, getting gettingdrafted out of high school
doesn't mean much until it's notlike you're getting drafted in
the first round of the NFL draftand like you're expected to
play.
Like that we're talking.
These guys have to prove it ata single a.
You know high a double a, likeit's a, it's an absolute grind.
So yeah, getting drafted outhigh school, that's a whole,

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that's a whole.
Like you're just you're justgetting started, you're just
scratching the surface yeah, no,I would agree, I would agree
and great question.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Great question because I think that's, uh,
something that is talked about alot.
I football has never reallytalked about it because, like I
said it's, it's physicallyimpossible to I, even college
guys, some college guys don'teven match up to what the NFL
has to throw at them.
But, like the NBA, that'ssomething that's been taught.
I mean, look at LeBron.
Lebron never went to college.
Maybe he could have used alittle bit of college, but he

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never went to college there, soI mean that's.
Everybody's got their ownopinion on Mr LeBronron and mine
is that he sucks.
So that's just how I roll withit there.
But I want to get to theBadgers, aaron, because, like I
said before them, shuckers, theygot shucked.
They got shucked in this gameby the Badgers.
It was just that kind of day.
It was just that kind of day inMadison and we loved it.

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We loved every second of it.
Connor, a season comes back.
I was a little worried, right,I was.
I was a little sketched out.
I was like I don't like this.
You know, connor's coming back,I gotta feel any of my torches
for 40 or something.
Nah, none of that, none of that.
In this one, badgers start outhot.
And this is.
You talk about that west coastroad trip that they had right,
they played against usc and ucla.

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Both those games they had slowstarts, slow starts.
That game against usc, Ibelieve their first three, three
possessions resulted in aturnover, like that's a slow
start I'm talking about.
And UCLA, ucla came out hot.
The Badgers came out hot inthis game here.
Badgers 19-2 run.
To start the game they were 5-6from downtown, 5-6 from

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downtown.
Wow, I mean wow Just came outhot and this is my favorite part
.
So Badgers, go on that big run.
Nebraska closed that gap.
They came back.
Nebraska came back in this one.
Don't let that final score foolyou.
This game got down to four.
Jack Janicki had a huge steal,took it down, threw the hammer
down there later in that firsthalf and then the route was on.

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Jack Janicki flipped the scriptfor me in that game.
He completely flipped thatscript.
In that moment.
The momentum was all kind offavor in Nebraska.
Wisconsin was on this littlecold spell.
Jack Janicki changed that game.
Love to see that.
There, john Tonje and JohnBlackwell, the Johns, right, the
John brothers, there, those two, I mean I will argue with a lot

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of people that might be thebest backcourt in the country,
blind and simple.
John Blackwell, I mean theother day he goes for 30 plus.
John Tonja gives you nothingagainst UCLA.
Both of them went off.
This one.
Here.
John Tonja goes 27 points, ninefor 19 from the uh, from the
field in this one.
But it's three point percentageand unreal, unreal for John

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Tonje from downtown.
Four for five, four for fivefrom distance, or no, yeah, five
for 11.
Sorry about that.
Five for 11.
I got my stats are all flowingaround here Five for 11 from
downtown.
For John Tonje in this one,just under just under 50% on the
game.
This guy, when he gets rolling,watch out John, john Blackwell.

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Same difference for him, samedifference.
The Badgers might have the bestbackcourt in the country, just
the way that they have theability not just to beat you at
the three point line but to beatyou off the bounce.
And the question then becomesright, because when you've got a
team like this, right, like theBadgers, becomes right because
when you got a team like this,right, like the Badgers, one
through five, it doesn't matterwhat Greg Gard does, right, he's
got to start games.

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John Blackwell, john Tonje, maxKlesman, steven Crowell, nolan
Winter all five guys can knockdown threes.
They go to that bench.
They bring in Carter Gilmore Idon't know what he did in the
off season except for work,because that guy and his shot
and his scoring ability has beenan A-plus.
Carter Gilmark in knockdownthrees.
Kamari McGee I don't know whatkind of juice that he, what he

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does in the locker room beforehe comes out before every game,
but this guy is unconscious fromdowntown.
I don't know what it is.
I absolutely don't you want totalk about a guy who upped his
craft going into this seasonKamari McGee 54% from downtown
on the season.
Aaron, he's about 55%.
He's 54.8% from three on theseason so far.

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That is unreal, and it's notlike this is a guy who shoots
like he's only shot like 10.
This is a guy who shot 30 plusthrees already and he's 54.8%
three.
That is unreal.
You want to talk about apercentage jump last season, 27
from three, 27, this season, 54.
I it the thing with the badgersand this is what really was

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evident in this game here theirdepth and their ability to score
, not just in the starting five,but their ability to score on
that bench, the ability thatwhen they go to that bench, you
still have to respect everybodythat's out there.
You still have to respect a guylike Carter Gilmore or a guy
like Jack Janicki, who had athree for three on this game
here.
And then Kamari McGee.

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The depth of the Badgers istheir saving grace, because what
do you do defensively?
Right, most of these teams outthere?
You look at them.
You're like well, you know, wecan hone in on this guy and we
slow him down.
We can beat this team right.
Wisconsin put up 80 plus pointsand john tonjay scored zero,
zero points in this game hereand I know we're gonna harp on

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him.
I know a lot of badger fans outthere gonna harp on him.
Stephen crowl had one point inthis entire ballgame.
He didn't shoot.
He didn't shoot once in thisgame and the Badgers put up 83
points.
He didn't shoot one time.
Your big guy gave youabsolutely zilch.
Nothing, zero, nada across theboard.
You still won the game.

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That's.
What speaks volumes to this teamis they can score in a boatload
of different ways.
Now in this game here inNebraska they doubled the post,
right, I don't want to haveeverybody blaming Steven Crowell
for getting a zero.
Yes, I wish you would have thatbig post presence that would
score you buckets all the time,100%, I agree.
In this game here they doubleddown to the post.
The thing with Steven Crowellis and when they is and when

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they, when we talk about himgetting involved because I know
we always put it in the pre-gamenotes, right, all the time when
we're pre-gaming for thesegames, when we do the preview, I
always say get the postinvolved, right.
I don't mean score it, I don'tmean have the badgers score it,
what, what, or have the postscore it.
What I mean is get the postinvolved to the point where
steven kral is getting doubledand he can kick out the shooters
.
That that's where I'm lookingat.

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That's where I'm looking atwith this team right now.
They and John said it perfectlyand I see a John I haven't seen
John in a while here in thecomments.
Love to see you on the showhere.
John said it perfectly.
Thing with the badges weaknessIf they clean up, could be a
dangerous team.
Clean up those turnovers, yes,yes, 100%.
Because if you look in theBadgers losses, if you look at
every single loss that theBadgers have had turnovers, the

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Marquette game turnovers,illinois turnovers, ucla
turnovers, michigan you could goback to turnovers.
You could say there was a fewcostly turnovers in there that
if you clean them up, there'ssome that you're like, ah, that
happens right, when a foot stepsout of bounds, it happens.
Those Some that you're like, ah, that happens right, when a
foot steps out of bounds, ithappens Like.
Those are the ones where it'slike, ah, crap, you know, you
just move on with life.
It's the costly passes, it'sthe bad passes, it's the

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dangerous things that they do.
Those are the ones that kind ofirritate you, and that's where
it was against Marquette, that'swhere it was against UCLA was
up, those turnovers.
I got to be honest with youright now.
If the Badgers figure it outdefensively which was another
one of my points in my notes andI tweeted out there too this

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was the best defensive game I'veseen from the Badgers all
season long, all season long.
And I know Nebraska is not asathletic as a UCLA or an
Illinois or even a MichiganState.
I know that.
But this is a starting point.
This is a starting point inthis game here, defensively,
their rotations look better.
Their help side defense wasphenomenal.
In this one they were keepingNebraska out of the lane.

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They were checking out shooters, boxing out, cleaning up the
glass.
In this one here I mean theBadgers 38 rebounds.
They had what?
43 rebounds to 35 rebounds inthis one, mm.
They have what?
43 rebounds to 35 rebounds inthis one, mm-hmm.
You love that, you love that.
Y'all rebound the team, y'allrebound them.
Turnovers in this one for theBadgers, I mean eight, eight
turnovers.
Talk about what you can do whenyou only have eight turnovers

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in a basketball game.
This is a team that can put up80-plus.
And the awesome part and this isa thing I never thought I would
say with the Wisconsin Badgers,we just expect 40 points at the
half.
We just expect it.
Now, like before, if we had 40at the half or even like 30, we
were like, oh man, wow, we'regoing to have a burner tonight.
Boys, like we're, we'relighting them up, this is going

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to be it.
Now it's like we score 40 atthe half.
We're like we could have donebetter, right, could have done
better, right, could have beenbetter.
There's a lot of things thatcould have went better that half
.
I don't.
I'm just looking at it as thisBadger team is doing things that
are unheard of Wisconsin.
This from Benjamin Wargill overthere on Twitter.
I just saw his tweet earliertoday.
Wisconsin scored at least 80points for the 13th time this

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season, equaling the thirdhighest such total and the most
since 1970 to 1971 season.
The school record is 15, set in1963, 1964, which the badgers
are on pace, of course, toshatter, like they're going to
go way over the top of thatright now.
So you're, you're seeing whatthe difference is right now in
this.
Uh, badger is badger, offenseall the way around.

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Uh, john did I want to readthis comment here from john?
Uh, defense looked good and veryclean.
Defense too.
Only gave up.
What four fouls?
Uh, let's see your player fallson the game.
11, 11 in two halves the game.
I mean watching it.
That was partially because Imean the refs, they stayed out
of it, which I love.
I love that reffing was prettyclean in this game here, because

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nebraska only had 11 fouls.
I mean, it was just cleanbasket.
You could call it cleanbasketball, you can call it.
The refs were kind of justswallowing the whistle.
I like that.
It was a little bit of both inthis one and that's what you
want.
A big 10 basketball game on asunday afternoon at new.
And like I don't want the othernight at ucla, when there was
50 fouls and it was just, I Like, and there was 50, some free

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throw shot, like I don't wantthat.
I don't want those crappy games.
I want a game like this whereyou just let them play.
If it's obvious, yes.
If a guy gets hammered going tothe rim and he gets thrown into
the back, yes, like, blow thewhistle.
I agree with those.
If it's tick tack, let it go,just let it go.
Let them play it out Right.
Those are the games that welove, so I love seeing that
there.
But hey, we got to hit an adbreak here.

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I want to talk more badges inthe backside.
We got some comments from GregGard here that I wanted to get
to.
I want to get to that.
I want to talk a little bit moreof the stats here that we saw
out of this one.
We got a quick little one.
Like I told you guys last week,there we're.

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We got the radio show coming up.
The show will be on the radio.
We got to get used to the threead breaks.
Right now, technically, I onlyhave two sponsor ad breaks, so
we just hit that countdown thereso we can have that for the
recorded versions, everythinglike it.
Yes, just bear with us duringthe 10 second countdown there in
the middle.
But I want to get more Badgershere because, aaron, this was a
great game.
This was a great game for theBadgers here.
83 to 55 was the final there.

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The Badgers wire to wire.
We're in control of this gamehere.
It got close, like I said,four-point game there at one
point.
Then the Badgers jumped backout and I think that's another
thing coming off.
This game that I loved was thatwe've talked about in the past.
Right, what was it?
The Ohio State game, the USCgame, those two games where it

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was like the Badgers built a biglead and then those teams came
back on them and they made itclose at the end.
And in both games right, theUSC game Badgers really pulled
back ahead after the half butyou, ohio State, took them down
to the wire.
Right, this game here, nebraskaclosed that gap and the Badgers
took a big halftime lead.
Right, they had 12 point leadgoing into the half.
They didn't waver off that lead.

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Right, the badgers threw thehaymaker to start this game.
They got a little like nebraskawas throwing, like they were
trying to kick you in the face,but they were missing.
Right, maybe they just whacked.
You grazed your ear a coupletimes and then wisconsin threw a
haymaker right back at him andit was done.
It was done.
They came out and theycontrolled the pace.
They controlled this game.
That's what we wanted to seeout of a Badgers team was just

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utter dominance.
Right, wire to wire.
Can you dominate a team?
Wire to wire?
This game here.
This game here the Badgersdominated wire to wire and if
you ask the Nebraska fans, it'slike what have you done this
year?
Besides, beat Arizona Shut up?
I saw somebody comment thatearlier on a post.
They're like, ah, you know,let's just, it's like shut up,

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shut up.
I mean, that's enough.
That's enough on this.
But, um, greg guard, I want totalk about a few things.
Greg Hart had to say after thatone and they talked to him in
the post game because theBadgers, they're going to have
this little little road triphere.
They're going to have a lot ofroad games coming up here pretty
soon.
They go to Maryland, they go toNorthwestern, they come back

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home for Indiana, they go toIowa, they go to Purdue and then
they come back home for a fewthere.
So they're going to have acouple of road.
They're going to have some roadgames there.
Four of their next five aregoing to be on the road there
before coming back home forIllinois, oregon, washington.
But then they have another roadtrip there with Michigan State
and Minnesota.
So they have a lot of roadgames here, right, and Gregard

(37:26):
has said we're getting on aplane, we're going somewhere to
play basketball.
That's all he said.
That was his comment on it.
I love that comment.
Right, he said there are a lotmore difficult things out there
in life than where you have toplay.
Tell us where we have to play,tell us where.
Tell us where we have to playand we'll be there.
I love that.
I love that comment becausegreg guard we heard from it was

(37:50):
ucla's coach crone in the otherday where he's like we've seen
the statue of liberty twice intwo weeks or something like that
, and you know he's getting allfired up and having to play and
I don't know if this was a shotat him for saying that and
everything like that.
But greg, greg guard's likedude, we're gonna get on a plane
, we're gonna go to maryland,we're gonna take care of our
business, we're gonna go back,we're gonna take on northwestern

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and then we're gonna come backhome for indiana and then we're
gonna go back on the road.
We're gonna take on iowa andthen we're gonna go to purdue,
then we're gonna come back homeand take on Illinois.
When you go to the big dance andthis is what Cronin and a lot
of fans and a lot of fans getirked with this one but when you
go to the big dance.
You're on the road for how manyweeks?
If you go all the way tonational championship right, you
got the round of 64, round of32, sweet 16, elite eight, final

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four, national championshipYou're on the road for six games
.
Right there, you're on the roadfor six games.
What gets you better thanplaying on the road in the Big
Ten?
What gets you more ready forthe dance?
Like Greg's?
Like, bring it on right.
We got to prove to ourselvesthat we can not only win at home
, but we can go on the road andwin basketball games.
Because you know for a fact andwhen you're at home you have

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the crowd right, the crowd'sinto it, the crowd's with you.
When you go on the road, theywith you.
They're most time against you,unless you go to indiana right
now.
Then they're booing mikewoodson and they're trying to
get them fired, but outside ofthat they're with you, right.
So that's the thing.
You go on the road in the big10.
You have a stretch of gameslike this.
I think it builds you a littlebit more.

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You go, if the badgers can go,to maryland, right, and john
said it right there.
Perfect, john said it rightthere.
Perfect, john said it rightthere Perfect, maryland is a
sleeper team.
They just had another good gamethere, I agree.
I agree 100%.
Maryland has been playing avery good basketball as of late.
Maryland's been fantastic as oflate I shouldn't even say
they've been playing very goodbasketball, they've been
fantastic Beat Indiana today andthey had that win against

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Illinois by 21 in Illinois.
They went to Illinois and beatthem by 21.
I get Avicic wasn't playing forIllinois, so they're missing
the big fella.
I get that.
But you got blasted on yourhome court by 21.
That's different.
That's not just missing one guy, you got blasted by Maryland.
And then they did have that winagainst Nebraska before that

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there.
So Maryland started to hit alittle bit of a streak there for
good game.
So maryland, that marylandwisconsin game could be a very
good game.
There could be a top 25 matchuptoo, because maryland could be
ranked in the top 25.
Right now you actually look atthe espn matchup predictor for
that game.
They have a 66 chance thatmaryland wins that game over
wisconsin.

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So that tells you the faiththat they have in wisconsin
right now in what I mean, andthe faith they have in maryland
at this very moment, especiallyin a road game there.
So maryland is favored rightnow in that, I think, but could
be a top 25 matchup.
So I agree there.
But I like that.
I like that greg guard basicallysaying like, hey, we gotta go

(40:39):
on the road anyways, like it'sgonna happen at some point in
the year.
It's sucks in our schedule thatit's four of the next five, but
we're going to get her done,we're going to get through it.
We're going to win somebasketball games.
You go four out of the nextfive.
You win for the next five.
That's a win.
That's a win.
You go on the road and you winthree of those road games in
Maryland, northwestern.
You win in Iowa.

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You beat Indiana at home andthen you play Purdue on the road
and maybe you play a close game, but Purdue, because Mackey
Arena just absolutely sucks toplay in for Wisconsin.
I don't know what it is Likethey got.
That place is cursed, thatplace is cursed.
I'm convinced that place iscursed.
But you go down there and maybeyou pull off, you rattle off a
win down there.
I mean they have a lot of goodopportunities in front of them.

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They're going to have a stretchof games here Purdue, illinois,
oregon, washington, thenMichigan State.
That's a lot of ranked matchesright there.
That's a lot of big-time gamesfor the Badgers there coming up
and I can't wait.
I can't wait.
You want to prove it.
There's your chance.
There's your chance night there.
Minnesota's starting to findtheir groove.

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So even Minnesota coming uplate in the season for the
Badgers that could be a toughgame.
Minnesota's got that win.
They just beat Oregon and Ibelieve before that they beat
Michigan and Iowa.
They got a win against Michigan, iowa and Oregon.
Three straight wins forMinnesota after they got beat by
Maryland and lost to Wisconsinthere.
I mean that's a pretty good.

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Minnesota's starting to figureit out there.
I don't like Minnesota, butthey're starting to figure it
out.
I'm looking at all these.
I mean the Badgers got tough.
They got a tough schedule infront of them and they knew that
.
They knew that Big Ten's alwaystough.
They knew that it was going tobe a tough sled in there.
John says don't sleep onNorthwestern, sleep on
Northwestern.
I agree, northwestern's gotsome good players too.

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Martinelli's still there,barnheiser's still there,
nicholson is still out there forhim too, and that Leagy's
playing pretty good basketballfor Northwestern.
So all the way around I meanNorthwestern's got a pretty good
team.
I just watched them take onIllinois today.
I believe Illinois pulled thatone out there.
But outside of that I meanNorthwestern solid ball club
they got some solid players,some experienced guys, badgers

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they got experienced guys too,and that's where I think the
Badgers have been playing wellright now is they got the
maturity.
The maturity level of Wisconsin, I think, is what puts them
over the edge of some of theseother teams John Tonje Blackwell
in his sophomore season there.
Steven Crowell getting older.
Same with Gilmore Max Klesman.
If Gilmore Max Klezman, if MaxKlezman figures it out on a

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consistent basis, this team isgoing to be scary, and they're
scary right now.
But if Max Klezman can shoot itconsistently and you put him in
the backcourt with JohnBlackwell and John Tonje, watch
out for that, because if MaxKlezman can bring it up with
these other two, this team isgoing to become deadly.

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From downtown I saw the statover the last.
Oh, I just had it up justbefore there and I did.
I didn't want to lose it there.
Um, greg guard that's not aquote from Greg guard across the
board, we see, offensivelywe're a handful.
When we get ourselves locked indefensively, we become a
complete team.
That was something that we juststated on before there.

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This team the thing that theywere lacking, like John said,
was turnovers, was a big problembut also defensively.
We said when this team couldfigure it out defensively
because that game to Illinois,right, they lost that one.
They put up 80-some points, 80points against Illinois, and
they lost it 86-80.
You don't lose many games likethat UCLA.

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You put up 83 points and youlost.
You shot 50% from the field,50% from the three and 85%.
In that game against UCLA theyshot from the free throw line
right around it.
There I think they wereprobably around like 89%, if I'm
not 85.
They shot 51, 51 from the field, 50 from three and 85 from the
free throw line and they lostthat game.

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What's the thing that keepsholding the bag?
It's defense is.
It's picking it up on thedefensive end, and we talked
about it.
What did we see better in thisnebraska game?
Defense went off.
They played a lot better andthe shot it was shot blockers
too.
I haven't seen the badgersblock many shots in a while and
Nolan Winter had one.
I believe in this one here.
I believe Gilmore if he didn'thave one.
He had an attempt at one, buteither way, I mean they're

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getting some shot blocksattempts.
You love to see that.
This was a stat I was lookingfor.
Wisconsin was a combined 33 for67 from three-point range in
two games.
So that would be against UCLAand against this Nebraska team
here 32 for 67.
Wow, wow.

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When this team gets rolling,they're hard to beat.
That's what we're trying to sayhere.
When this team gets rolling,they are hard to beat.
Aaron, was there anything yousaw coming off this game against
Nebraska?
You're like, wow, this Badgersteam they're starting to feel it
in this Big Ten schedule.
It's starting to ramp up alittle bit.
The record's starting to lookgood here for the Wisconsin

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Badgers.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Yeah, I mean one person you bring up a lot there,
like Max Klesman.
I mean we've kind of harped onthis team.
Are they a great rebelling team?
I wouldn't say they're a greatrebounding team.
Right, that's something theycan always get better at.
I mean he crashed the boardsfor seven as this mic continues
to fall off the table.
Seven boards tonight, likethat's.

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I mean out of a 6'4 guard,right, Like that's impressive,
like there's something to besaid for that.
Are you going to get sevenboards every night?
Probably not right.
But when another guy can kindof step up in a role like that,
that's good to see.
Any type of experience and anytype of broadening your game in
a dominant win that gives youconfidence.

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Hey, we go play a better teamdown the road here.
Maryland even, let's say, maxKlesman has some more confidence
, maybe in the reboundingdepartment.
You know, like just that typeof thing Like you bring up.
You know I'm a big John Tonjeguy from afar a little bit, but
I'm a big John Tonje guy Likethis was a game like you expect.
I'm not going to say everynight, but you expect him, he

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can do this a couple times aweek.
Right, he can give you those,you know, 27-odd points there.
So, like you love to see that,I mean they just took it to them
right, even when it got close.
Okay, hey, we're going to putthe foot back on the gas, like
we're going to show them.
You know they can't hang withus and that's what you got to do
.
You got to put these teams downand kick them while they're
down and just keep going.
So I mean love to see a lot ofwhat they did today and, like

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you said, you know StevenCrowell giving you basically,
you know, seven boards, threeassists and one point, but you
know everybody else scoring forthe most part.
You love to see it and I thinkthis is a win they can build off
of.
As far as you know, outside of,you know your main guys, you
know you see some bench guys youknow be productive here and
just this is going to be astretch right, like this is
going to test them.

(47:21):
This is going to test theirmerit a little bit.
Being on the road, toughenvironments like Maryland
that's a good environment, Iknow that and some others you
know we talk about here.
So you know you want to go intoa stretch like this with a win,
and with a dominant win, Ithink.
At best you know that is thesituation that you're looking at

(47:41):
and it played out like theytook care of their business and
we moved forward and onto theroad trip that will happen here
soon.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, no, I agree, I agree.
And John, I see you in thecomments there.
I want to get to your comment.
When we come back from thebreak here we got to hit our
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I'll get John's question there.
We'll wrap up the Badgersaddress here for the day and
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So we got to get a little bitback in the badge here, cause I
wanted to get John's commentshere.

(49:11):
Uh, would you, he commentedhere, would you like to see them
move the ball more?
More assist.
I think they do good on sharingthe ball, but sometimes I like
to see it more to be morecomplete.
That's a lot of more in thatcomment there.
John, you got me all over theplace there.
Yes, yeah, we've talked aboutin the past, or I thought today

(49:33):
they did a really good jobmoving the basketball around
there.
Um, what I would say is, yes,at times they get stagnant.
At times, I think they get awayand we've talked about before
the ball sticks to one side ofthe floor, they're not
transferring it.
Both sides of the floor,they're not moving it around,
they're not working it in thepost, they're not working in,
working out, they're not gettingthose kickouts.
So, yeah, I would agree Attimes.

(49:53):
I would love to see the Badgersand that's what we talked about
in these games where they getthese big leads going into the
half and then out of the half.
Let's just say, like USC cameback on them, ohio State came
back on them.
They got a little stagnant.
They got away from moving thebasketball around and side to
side, they kept it one side ofthe floor.
A lot of forced shots, theywere rushing shots early in the

(50:14):
shot clock.
They weren't really working.
And that's what the Badgers donow.
Right, they aren't a teamthat's going to burn the shot
clock.
They go in volume.
The more shots they can put up,the more opportunities they got
to score.
Right, that's a good thing.
I think that's a good thing forthis Badgers team.
I just believe at times thatthey get away from even working
the basketball.
So I would agree.
I would agree, I would like tosee the Badgers move the ball a
little bit more at times.

(50:34):
I think there's I can't sayI've watched a game so far this
season where it was like acomplete game.
I was like why don't we knowthe whole game?
I was like move the basketballa little bit more.
I just think at times they getaway from it.
They get too stagnant.
It's like today they put the gaspedal down and dominated, and
in other games they took it offand they just tried to coast.
Right, they tried to coast andthe problem is is, when you

(50:56):
coast, you can coast to a point,but then you get to that point.
You can coast to a point, butthen you get to that point.
It's a question of can you putyour foot back on the pedal and
burn it a little bit more?
Can you get back to that biggerlead?
Right, when a team you're up by15, they close it to eight, can
you get back to 15?
Those are, you know, thosekinds of teams very far and few
between right, you got to knowthat.

(51:17):
Put the gas pedal down, buildyourself a lead and then maybe
slow it down a little bit, maybetry to play a little bit more.
I still don't like the isolationbasketball thought there, but
slowing it down then not tryingto rush shots, that kind of
thing.
So great question there.
I completely agree.
I wish the Badgers at timesthey got to get to keep moving
the basketball there.
But, aaron, we're right at theend, right at the end here.

(51:38):
Was there anything else I?

Speaker 3 (51:46):
mean big win by the Badgers 83 to 55.
There we talked about theBrewers a little bit, anything
else.
We got to wrap us up here forthe day real quick.
Not so much.
I mean obviously this, this AFCchampionship game, coming down
to the wire, as as it always iswith the Bills and Chiefs, it
feels like.
But I'll be, I'll be shocked ifthe Bills pull this off.
It's, it's just, you know, know, unfortunately, it seems like

(52:07):
history is probably going torepeat itself.
I mean it's the chiefs don'tlose.
I mean it's very rarely lose,it's just, it's.
Wow, I don't know, it's goingto take a miracle drive.
I mean, you know, as we'reseeing it, fourth and fourth and
five on buffalo, 47 there.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
So quick one from john here.
Quick one from john, any teamso far that we see as dark
horses I've been saying stjohn's before the season and
also mississippi state to makedeep runs there is there any
dark horse teams we're lookingat?
And he said all, of course,wisconsin.
Thank you for the love there,john.
Thank you for the love there.
Um, if we wanted to look atjust big 10, like if we wanted

(52:42):
to say, well, what's the big 10,what's that one team in the big
10 where I think they couldmake a run Right, I would say my
dark horse team right now notexpected team would be Maryland.
I like what Maryland's got.
Julian Reese has been playingfantastic, leslie's been
fantastic.
I like what they have.
Um, I'll tell you, I meanMichigan State, purdue, michigan

(53:02):
, I don't think there's anysurprises.
Illinois, oregon, I don't seeas a surprise.
Ucla, I don't see as a surprise.
I would say Maryland would bemy one.
Um, the opposite of a darkhorse would be Indiana.
Indiana has kind of fallen off.
They want to fire Mike Woodsonat this point here, so they kind
of he's kind of out the door.
I do agree with St John's,though.
St John's nobody talked them.
They weren't even ranked forthe longest time and they just,

(53:23):
I mean, got the kibosh.
Now they're finally ranked andI agree with St John's comment
there.
Let's see here Any other teamsthat I would say.
Right now Texas Tech is having avery underrated season.
They're very underrated 15-4 atthe moment there.

(53:43):
So I would say 15-4.
I like Texas Tech.
I would also say teams thatguys aren't talking about
Clemson, clemson at 17-4.
I love what they've shown rightnow in the ACC.
Louisville was pretty high upthere, talked about to start the
year.
They had some pretty goodtransfers coming in, chuckie
Eppern being one of them there.
So I would say Louisville andthen Wake Forest has been pretty
darn good here in ACC play.

(54:04):
So I would say that some ofthose teams right there would be
kind of my dark horse.
I don't know if they make a run, but I think they could make
some noise and I think they'reinteresting, interesting stories
to keep an eye on there.
Outside of that, I don't reallyhave any dark horse teams at the
moment.
March Madness is so hard topick a dark horse team.

(54:25):
Just because it depends.
It depends there.
Uh, we do have one acrosstwitch.
We we're out wisconsin sportsshow.
We're wisconsin sports showthere.
So, uh, we got one more, onemore real fast here job.
We gotta get out of here.
Uh, rumor gonzaga job will beopen in the next few years with
few stepping down, next yearwith few stepping down.

(54:46):
That would be interesting.
That'd be interesting.
I've, I think, gonzaga.
Aren't they joining aconference?
I thought.
I thought I saw gonzaga'sjumping in a conference for
basketball.
Aaron, are they jumping in aconference in the next couple
years for basketball?
They're a different conference.
They there are currently inthat, uh, the whack or whatever
you call it.
They're the west coast w Idon't know west coast something,

(55:07):
crapola conference where theydon't play anybody.
I thought they were talkingabout movements.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Yeah, pack 12, which is what the pack 2 I mean really
, I mean the pack 12 isrestructuring.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Restructuring it and they're gonna have gonzaga in
there, so it's gonna be a littlebit more games from.
The problem with being agonzaga, like I said, is they
play in that craptasticconference with absolutely
nobody in it and then I meanthey have to play all these
non-conference games againstlike kentucky and alabama and
all these top 10.
They play the top 10 teams inthe country for their first like

(55:40):
10 games of the season and thenthey end up like five and five
coming out of that it's like,well, the record's actually not
that bad looking at who theyplayed.
So I mean gonzaga's it's alwaysa tough one, but maybe getting
into the pack, maybe gettingsome more competition, some
better teams, that can get youmore of that net ranking and get
you more of them quad one winsor quad one, quad two that'll be
huge for gonzaga there.

(56:00):
So I mean I don't know, I don't, I like, I like few there.
So I don't know, I don't knowif you'll step down.
Um, I was just looking at thesec here because I was scrolling
down here.
I don't know if any team in thesec is really a dark horse for
me.
I mean mississippi state, likejohn said there.
But outside of that, I mean allthese teams were previously
ranked there texas, I will saytexas.
They're sitting there at 14-6.

(56:21):
They've hung close with a lotof great teams so far this year.
Texas is a team that I couldsee them finding a way to squeak
some games out there.
So watch out for Texas possiblybeing a team to make a run
there.
But outside of that, I meanit's college basketball.
You never know.
March Madness is so tough.
You have to get to the Madnessfirst and then you can worry
about it.
Right, you to the madness firstand then you can worry about it

(56:41):
.
Right, you got to see thetournament, the, the conference
tournament games first, and onceyou get into the conference
tournament games, then you, like, you pick your nc state to win
a few games.
When nc state rattled off theacc tournament and made it in,
then put the run onto the finalfour, like those are when you
have to worry about it there.
But, aaron, we ran long, alittle bit we ran long, but hey,
that's, we got a lot of goodstuff coming back.

(57:03):
On Wednesday we got to talkabout the Super Bowl matchup
because we're going to have thatfigured out here with the Bills
and the Chiefs, so we're goingto be able to talk about that.
Who's going to be taking on theEagles there in New Orleans?
So we're going to get into that.
We have more Badger talk to getinto on Wednesday there on the
show here.
So with that, for Aaron andmyself this has been Wisconsin

(57:24):
Sports on the go with Trage.
Thank you all for tuning in.
We'll catch you guys back hereon Wednesday, but until then,
see ya.