November 5 Hour 2: Packers, Bucks and NFL Picks

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We dig into why the Packers’ offense feels predictable and how to fix it fast with under-center runs, real play action, and a defined identity. Then we pivot to the Bucks’ encouraging start, Rollins’ rise, and a measured take on the NFL trade deadline.

• Musgrave’s value after Kraft’s injury
• Defensive bright spots amid a bad loss
• Shotgun overuse and stalled run game
• LaFleur’s play calling and predictability
• How to help Jordan Love with boots and slants
• Roster choices, injuries, and accountability
• Keys vs Eagles: trench tone and secondary matchups
• Bucks shooting profile and two-guard looks
• Ryan Rollins’ two-way impact
• Kuzma as a potential swing piece
• Trade deadline winners, losers, and lessons

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SPEAKER_04 (00:01):
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Umer, how are we doing?
It's Wednesday, the Packers.
But before we get to thePackers, I don't let's not talk

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Packers yet.
How are you doing on thisWednesday?

SPEAKER_02 (01:10):
I'm good, man.
I'm good.
I can't complain.
It's uh no of the week.
Uh, I'm slowly getting over whathappened on Sunday.
I'm looking forward to Mondaynight in a way where I'll be
very indifferent.
And all in all, uh work is goingpretty good, still crazy, but I
can't complain.
How about you, man?
How are you doing?

SPEAKER_04 (01:26):
Oh, doing great, doing great right now.
Better, way better, a hundredtimes better than the Packers.
Hundred times better than thePackers.
I I know that for a fact.
Yeah, there is so much that wentwrong, so much that went wrong.
Some that went, I mean, we justin the game wrong, and then
after the game, finding outwrong, just so many things that

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wow, it was just a bad couple ofdays for the Green Bay Packers.
So let's just start out withthis game here.
So, looking at this game, Imean, let's just start with the
good, bad, and the ugly.
Was there a good?
Was there really a good is therewas there a good in this game
for the Green Bay Packers?

SPEAKER_02 (02:06):
That's a hard that's hard to do.
That is a very, very good.

SPEAKER_04 (02:09):
When was the last time we came off of a game and
we said to ourselves, was therea good?

SPEAKER_02 (02:16):
Oh, I got a good.
I got a good uh after TuckerKraft uh heard his name because
Sean Ryan can't do anythingright.
Um we got to see extended lookat Musgrave, who kind of hit the
ground running, was veryinstrumental in that final
drive.
And you know what?
I was impressed.
And I think that even though heis no Tucker Kraft, he does have

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value, and I feel like he willbe able to hopefully change the
office up a little bit insteadof being so run focused, but
maybe more pass focused, andallowing Jordan to cook a little
more with a big target likethat.

SPEAKER_04 (02:51):
People forget that Luke Musgrave was the guy before
Tucker Kraft was the guy.
Like he was supposed to be, hewas he was way ahead of him on
the depth chart, and then all ofa sudden he got that what he had
that liver laceration there, hewas out, and a last yeah, yep,
and then ended up he was out, sothen Tucker Kraft stepped in,

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he's been fantastic and hasactually taken that next step
ahead of Luke Musgrave.
So I I would agree.
I I did like what we see what wesaw out of him in that one.
I thought, I mean, X played apretty good game, Xavier
McKinney played a pretty goodgame out there in the safety
spots.
You could say him, Cooper didn'thave a bad day.
Outside of that, I mean, I meanthe defense only gave up 16

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points.

SPEAKER_02 (03:35):
Yeah, I mean, that's like the that's how we look at
it, right?

SPEAKER_04 (03:38):
That's not terrible.
I mean, you look in total.
Carolina, I mean, this is the Iguess the ugly.
Let's just look at the ugly herefor a second.
The Packers had 369 yards oftotal offense.
The Panthers had 265.
The Packers ran 63 total plays.
They were two for three on firstdown, or fourth down, seven for

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thirteen on third down.
They had seven rushing firstdowns, third.
Well, they had 20 first downs intotal.
Let's go with that there.
There were 26 for 37 in the air.
If I gave you all those numbersand I told you they played the
Carolina Panthers, would youbelieve that they lost?

SPEAKER_02 (04:17):
Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_04 (04:18):
I wouldn't have believed they lost.
Like, that's those numbers.
I mean, they aren't like and notblow you out of the water
numbers by any means, but prettydarn good numbers in total for
the Green Bay Packers.
And yet, this is the outcomewe're looking at right now.
This this was the finishingtouch.
What was wow, just a miserable,miserable day, especially with

(04:41):
the injury that you justmentioned there with Tucker
Kraft.
So let's just look straight atthat ugly right there.
I mean, what was your, I guess,what we just talked about the
good.
What was your bad?
What was your bad coming offthis game?
Well, I guess what was yourworst bad that you had coming
off this game?

SPEAKER_02 (04:56):
I think my worst bad is the lack of attention to
detail when it comes toeverybody on the team.
This includes Matt LaFleur andhis play calling, and maybe
trying to be too scheme, toodesigning, and not just trying
to, you know.
I think a couple of people saidit today were just, you know,

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just you know, line up and playfootball.
Stop trying to get cute aboutit.
And then, of course, attentionto detail with the blocking
scheme, with Savion knowing nothow to get down or not how to
run around his own blocker, andlike just man on defense, just
every time they called a play,it was the opposite play of what
they needed to do when theyyou're looking for Ron.

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They are they they passed itwhen they when they passed it,
they were you know, when theywere it's just opposite time
every single time.
And it just it just reminded meof the games where we I felt
like that San Francisco 49ersgame in the NFC Championship in
2019.
Like it felt like no matter whatwe did, it was just all wrong.
And man, they just had this vibeof the second that game kicked
off, it just felt like somethingwas off.

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So, yeah.
That's that that and justhonestly, just the offense as a
whole.
I'm just not very I I'm startingto get on your wagon about
LaFleur and certain things.
Not firing, but he is annoyingthe hell out of me right now.

SPEAKER_04 (06:15):
I don't think you fire him, but I think there has
to be this serious conversationof this the play calling of this
team needs to change, and weneed to we might there might
need to be a change at offensiveplay caller.
Now, I'm not saying it's gonnabe a guy in-house at this very
moment, but there might need tobe that conversation because if
you look at this, I saw a statit was 25% of Jordan Love's pass

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attempts over the last six gameshave been from behind the line
of scrimmage, second behind,highest behind only Kyler Murray
there.
Only 13% of his pass attempts inthat span have been in the
intermediate area, 10 to 19yards, which is the third
lowest.
What defenses are doing to theGreen Bay Packers right now, and
I'm going to tell you, I'm gonnatell you my opinion why, but

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what I think they're doing tothe Green Bay Packers is they're
what what I know they're doingis taking away the deep ball.
They're not allowing Jordan Loveto uh blow the field open right
now, and they're taking awaywhat is at the line of
scrimmage, they're making himthrow behind the line of
scrimmage and they're justblowing it up in the backfield.
How many times do we have towatch Matthew Golden get a flip
pass out there and just likepray that our guy can beat their

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guy?
Why does that why is that thescheme?
Why on a third down are youdrawing up a screen pass for
Manuel Wilson going on theoutside or Savion Williams?
Why are we scheming up plays forSavion Williams, but we can't
scheme up anything for MatthewGolden?
I don't understand that.
But either way, back back to mypoint was.

SPEAKER_02 (07:37):
That's what I'm asking.

SPEAKER_04 (07:39):
The run game, I we mentioned this.
We said it.
We said it.
We didn't believe the run gamehad to be the total the total
focus of this thing.
I lied.
I lied.
I lied.
I'm in the opposite now.
I believe because the Green BayPackers cannot run the ball
consistently, and Josh Jacobs,and and we can sit here and say,

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oh, Josh Jacobs is having arough year.
No, the offensive line has justat times just been it's just
bad.
They're just they've just beenpitiful.
They're not opening up yards.
But when you look at a guy likeJosh Jacobs and he's averaging
three yards of carry right now,there's your problem.
There's your problem.
This offense cannot flourishunless Josh Jacobs flourishes.
So you know what?
You know what I'm saying?
This offense needs to find JoshJacobs again.

(08:21):
Because I said, and I think youcan put the you can put the load
on Jordan Love's shoulders andsay, go win me a football game.
You can put the load on hisshoulders and say, we got to
throw the ball.
But you can't open up the youcannot open up the passing game
unless if Josh Jacobs can findsomething in the run game.
Because right now, the lack ofthe run is killing him.
And why do they lack the run,Amar?

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Why do they lack it?
Why do they run so much out ofshotgun?
That is my biggest problem.
They're running so much crap outof shotgun right now.
You want to know why JoshJacobs, one of the bigger backs
in the league, a big fella, he'sjust got a bruiser of a method
of running the football, whyit's so hard for him to get
going.
You're handing him the ballwhile he's standing still and

(09:04):
saying, go for it, buddy.
Give him the ball goingdownhill, but add the deception
of wow, Jordan Love's backsturned to me.
I wonder if he's gonna keep it.
I wonder if he's gonna run playaction.
I wonder if he's gonna hand theball to Josh Jacobs.
There's so many things that canhappen.
Right now, all defenses have todo because they can see it all,
because you're standing right infront of them, is they can just
send the house.
They can send everybody down.

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Guess what?
When they send the house, youcan do those little things with
the play action.
You can boot a guy out, you cando all that kind of stuff, but
you can't from the shotgun.
You can't.
You can't exploit defenses thesame way when you're so
one-dimensional and vanilla,like you're telling me.
Like you, like you justspecifically told me there,
Almer.
I mean, you said it.

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This team was, they come out soflat, they come out so vanilla.
There's nothing there.
Matt LaFleur seems uninspired.
The play calling, the scheming.
You don't have to scheme it upsometimes.
Like you said, line it up, playfootball.
That's not what they're doing.
They're running shotgun.
They're trying to scheme it upso much.
He's got to get all crazy withit because he's so
one-dimensional with the waythat he's setting it up, where
he's not allowing Jordan Love toplay under center, get his back

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to the bat defense there, andmake some of that misconception.
What's he gonna do?
What's he not?
I wonder why Aaron Rodgers shuthis headset off, why he couldn't
hear him in his helmet.
I wonder why.
I really do.
Umer, to you.
I'm going crazy over here.
To you.
What are your thoughts on thethings?
What are your thoughts on therun game?
I mean, what are your thoughtson what we're seeing from this

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offense right now?
You kind of alluded to itbefore, but it's just driving me
nuts.
It is the amount of shotgun andthe amount of, I mean, just
nonsense that we're runningright now.
If you're the Green Bay Packers.

SPEAKER_02 (10:39):
No, I was gonna say the shotgun thing drives me
absolutely insane.
And listening to certain peoplebreak it down, I can understand
there's some positives with it,but at the end of the day, I
feel like he has get he'sgetting way too he, I don't know
if he's he's trying to go intohis bag way too much and trying
to just do things that are alittle bit unconventional.
And then when he sees teams docertain ways when they do their

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defensive scheme, like you know,keeping two eyes shell and
things like that, he almostfeels like he has to get them
out of it.
Like he it's almost like, okay,if it's this, it's this.
If it's this, it's this.
Like if I see this defense, I dothis.
If it's this type of play, I Icall this.
And it's like if I feel like hehas a very hard time adapting
out of his normal decisionmaking.
And because that he's here stucktrying to, you know,

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consistently almost do the samething.
Like I'm watching him literallyrepeat plays from game in and
game out to the point to whereif I'm seeing that on my couch
and I can get an idea of one,you know, first down, they're
gonna run the ball, second,second and short, you know,
second and long, they're gonnaeither run it, they're gonna
pass it, and then on third andshort, they're gonna run or
they're gonna throw it deep, andthey're not gonna try to get the

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first down.
And like people are literallyplaying their Joe Berry defense
against us right now, and we'restruggling.
And I'm sorry, like Vic Fangio,for the most part, Floor and
Rogers have had his number, butnow with Love, I think Love can
still get it, but man, like theway Fangio plays that defense.
I know Philadelphia is not whatthey were last year, but they're

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still a very good team, and thatdefense the front is still
nasty.
And we made the CarolinaPanthers look like you know the
2001 Baltimore Ravens with theirdefense, it was insane.
And so, like, I feel like onoffense we need to find an
actual identity because if youand me can agree that the last
year and a half have felt like aherky jerky, we don't know

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consistency, no rhyme, norhythm, it's just all over the
place, and it just doesn't feelthere's no flow.
And he used to be really good atthat.

SPEAKER_04 (12:34):
He's got this obsession right now where he has
to try and be so creative andtry to be smarter than everybody
and try to draw up this magicalplay.
When at some points it's justhow am I gonna get the ball to
Josh Jacobs and how am I gonnacrack off seven yards?
That's all you need to do.
Not how am I gonna get the ballto Matthew Golden behind the
line of scrimmage and how am Igonna get him to bust off for 15

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yards there?
Because that is not it.
That is not it on a third downwhen you need some chunk yardage
there.
I I really said, Why are you notthrowing a slant route to Romeo
Dobbs?
It's like your bread and butter,what you go to every time.
And if they try to double that,then there's somebody else open.
There's so many other ways thatyou can draw this up right now.

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Yeah, and yet Matt LaFleurdecides, well, nah, I don't want
to.
Let's let's get crazy with it.
Let's get let's run a screenpass to Savion Williams because
that'll be fun.
It's it's that it's theobsession with having to do all
this creative stuff.
Where, like you said, he digs sodeep into this bag of tricks

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when work.
I mean, everybody's saying themost simple thing.
It's like we've sat here, and II know, like you said, there's
like so many people out theresay, Well, there's so many
benefits to running out of youknow, shotgun.
You can see the field better,you can do this.
Okay, great.
I I don't care.
We've watched enough footballwhere we've watched Aaron
Rodgers, Brett Favre, andeverybody else, right?
We've watched them all playunderneath the center for years

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and have success.
Now, I'm just crazy, crazy tothink this, but Hall of Fame
quarterbacks might have been onto something.
These these Hall of Fame playcallers might have been on to
something.
Football has gotten faster, guyshave gotten quicker.
I will agree with that.
But it does not mean that thereis not still a way to run
underneath the center, thatthere is not a need for play

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action because it works.
It works when you have a mobilequarterback.
Get Jordan Love out and running,get him out and running.
When was the last time we sawJordan Love's legs?
Just utilize his legs where heis that threat to throw the ball
because we know the arm talentthat he has, where he can make
some throws, where he can throwthe ball in the run, but also he
can take off and get you acouple, where also he can you

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know hand it off to Josh Jacobswhile he's turned around.
There's so many options that youcan go with that Packers are
just avoiding by running at theshaka.
It just drives me absolutelynuts.
It just does.

SPEAKER_02 (14:56):
I feel you, I I couldn't agree more.
I think it's one of those thingswhere we find I feel like we
just shoot ourselves in the footover and over and over, and it's
just like, hey, like at thispoint, year seven, like there's
things you just gotta get out ofyour system.
He doesn't, he's still makingrepeat mistakes.
I mean, we can't we can't wetalk about play calling, but I'm
gonna talk about some of theroster decision making when it
comes to having three, we're nowhaving two losses in a tie,

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primarily because our kicker ismissing field goals, and then
you have you know Lucas, thesubstitute teacher, right there
on the team, and this guy'sstill supposedly working for
something in his leg, and I'mlike, we're still trying them
out there.
Just some of the stuff defieslogic.
I posted about it.
It's like you have players thatare continually hurt that are
currently hurt, and you you givethem the benefit of doubt to be

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out there, but if they're notperforming well, you don't take
them off the field, you justkeep them out there.
And I don't know why they lackthe common sense to defy logic.
Like, okay, if he's banged up, Idon't care what he's saying.
If he's not 100% and he's like80 or 70, I'd rather get the guy
who's healthy.
He may not be as good, but atleast he's healthy and he can
run with someone, or he canblock properly, and or in this

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case, kick a field goal.
Like we lose games like by threeor or you know, by three or
more, and or I'm sorry, three orless, three or more.
And why?
Because of things like that.
That's just mm-mm.
It easy to be AO right now if wehad you know just a kicker that
was semi-consistent.

SPEAKER_04 (16:17):
Yep, yep.
I know I agree.
I agree 100%.
I was I was watching earlier, Ithink it was a uh a Nate Hobbs
that were showing some of thehighlights of him off this last
only.

SPEAKER_02 (16:27):
I still I know exactly what you're talking
about.

SPEAKER_04 (16:29):
He looks lost, like it just he looks lost.
Like, I don't understand.
It looks like worse than in thepreseason where we were watching
um Isaiah Simmons, and I wasreally at high hopes for him.
And it was like watching him outthere in pass coverage, and I
know and I understand, and andmaybe I don't know, I don't know
what his you know work ethic orlike understanding is of

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defenses, how quick he catcheson, because I know he's been
injured, right?
He's been out for a while, so Idon't maybe maybe it's a guy who
just doesn't understand thescheme that they're trying to
run at the moment or what it is,but he's doing worse for you
being out there than he issitting on the sideline watching
and maybe understanding.
I don't know, I don't I don'tknow the inner, like the inner
workings, right?
I don't, I'm not in the room, soI don't are I don't know if

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maybe it's like it's notclicking, the schemes aren't
clicking in his head becausewe've seen it before with other
guys like Koy Walker, right?
Right now, teams will just runat him because like that's just
I mean, run the football likeKoi Walker.
Either he's gonna blow it up inthe backfield or you're gonna go
right past him.
One of the two.
I mean, and I take the chanceson going right past him, but
it's like that right now withNate Hobbs, like, well, when
he's out there, throw to hisside of the field, he just looks

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lost.
And I don't know what that is.
I don't know what that is.
If it's him, if it's becausehe's hurt.
I he was hurt, I have no idea,but it's just it's it's not
there with him at the moment.
So he's doing worse for you,like you said, with like
McManus.
He's doing worse for you on thefield right now than he is not.
Maybe keeping him on thesideline, maybe working through

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the scheme a little bit morebecause he's been out.
So I don't know if it's becausehe just hasn't had a lot of time
in practice to be able topractice the scheme.
Like it just looks like when hedropped back in coverage, he's
there, and then he just doesn'tknow what, like he doesn't know
what zone he's in, he doesn'tknow where he's supposed to go.
I don't know if that's just alack of understanding, the
concept, what I have no idea.
I I don't know.
You can only make so manyexcuses for a guy.

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I just I have no idea.
But like you said with McManus,if it's going to be a problem
having him out there, it's notworth it, and that's where you
have to move on from that, moveon from that and try to make
that problem lesser by puttingsomebody else out there, maybe a
lesser player, but stillsomebody who is going to be in
the right spots and do the rightthings.

SPEAKER_02 (18:35):
I was gonna say Nate Hobbs, don't worry, he's already
he's out for another one to twoweeks because of MCL injury.

SPEAKER_04 (18:39):
So there you go.

SPEAKER_02 (18:41):
I was just gonna say, like he's hurt anyway.
Meniscus coming in, MCL now.
I'm like, again, this is thething that we knew about him
coming out of uh Las Vegas.
He's oft injured.
Like, you know, you weren'treally gaining or losing
anything with replacing Jairwith him because you know,
neither one of them reallyplaying much right now.
But again, at least when Jairwas out there, he may not play

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much.
When he was out there though, heknew what he was doing.
At least on our team, he did.
So I'm with you on that.
Like, so it's just one of thosethings where if he's not
healthy, or for that matter, ifhe doesn't know what the heck
he's doing out there, you gottaget him off the field because
they they sometimes keep doingit.
Oh they'll keep him out there,they'll they'll figure it out,
they're gonna work through it.
No, I'm sorry.
If if that was the case, weshould have benched Kevin King

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the moment he gave up thattouchdown.
Because clearly he didn't haveit, right?
Because he gave up another one.
And I'm just like, why bringShramon Williams?
This is the same thing in thiscase.
Like, if you got if you havethat guy out there who you could
see doesn't know exactly whathe's doing, there's sometimes
you can't work through it.
And when you benched him, it wasprobably the best thing you
could have done.

SPEAKER_04 (19:38):
Nope, I agree.
I agree 100%.
So we're gonna come back here,we're gonna wrap up the Panthers
talk, we're gonna preview theEagles, and then we're gonna get
we're gonna get Almer out ofhere for the day.
We'll be right back here.
Welcome back into WisconsinSports on the Go with Trage.
I'm your host, Trage, as we comeback here on this Wednesday.
Hey, this next segment here,we're gonna wrap up the Packer
talk there, wrap up with theEagles here.

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(20:20):
As we always run long with oursegments, so here we are.
We gotta we gotta buzz throughthe Eagles game here coming up.
So, Ummer, let's talk about thisEagles game right away.
Keys to the game.
What are some of your keys thatyou're looking at in this game?
Packers, what do they got to doto pick up a win here against
the Eagles on Monday night?

SPEAKER_02 (20:36):
I think we we've noticed with the Eagles and some
of the losses that they've hadthis year, have been teams that
have not been really scared torun their game plan, try to run
the ball, be take advantage ofthe aggressiveness on defense
and on offense.
You know, for the longest time,their OC or their Kevin Potrillo
did not know what he was doingat all.

(20:56):
Hence why that looks sodisjointed.
And right now, even though theyare coming off of bye weeks,
they're gonna be extra prepared,extra rested for us.
You have to take advantage of afew things.
You have to be able to takeadvantage of Jalen Carter's
aggressiveness and try to gethim ejected because that seems
to work multiple times now.
Uh, also uh Saquon Barkley, yougotta make sure that he's not
100%, so you have to takeadvantage of that, not like hurt

(21:17):
him, but just make sure you takeadvantage of his not being as
fast.
And again, it is one of thosethings where on defense, I feel
like we'll be okay.
My concern is how is Jordan Loveand his offense on the floor
bounced back from that reallyputrid uh demonstration on
Sunday.

SPEAKER_04 (21:38):
I agree.
I agree with that.
I, you know, looking at that rungame for the Eagles, I think
it's gonna be a lot on DevontaeWyatt, Carl Brooks, those guys,
they got pushed around on Sundayagainst the Panthers.
They were opening up holes andthey were moving.
There was that backup guardform.
I can't remember the name offthe top of my head, but they
were he was pushing them around.
Yeah, he was he was pushing themaround like no other.

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He was owning the trenches.
So this is a game where the thedefensive line needs to come up
big and they need, especiallyguys like Parsons and Gary on
the outside there, but up themiddle, you know, you're talking
about a guy like Saquon who's alittle banged up coming into
this one.
Those guys have to set the toneat the front end of this for the
Green Bay Packers.
So I'm right there with thatdefensive line, having to be

(22:19):
good in this one.
And I'm kind of looking at thesecondary in this game.
I you know, I don't know what AJBrown's gonna be because nobody
knows at this point.
Is he gonna be reading a book?
Is he gonna be there?
I have no idea what what theheck's going on with that, but
you still have Devontae Smith,you got to steal it.
Dallas Goddard always seems tohave the Packers' number when it
seems like they play him.
So this is the game where yougot to be watching out for those

(22:42):
guys.
This isn't the same Eagles teamthat you saw last year, but
there's still a good team.
This is still a good team with agood quarterback and a good
running back or great runningback that can get the job done
if you allow it.
Like you said, you got to go inhere with a plan.
Not this, and it just seems likeI don't know if you play the
Packers, just play down to teamsor what, but you have to come

(23:04):
into this game and you have tobe fired up.
You you have to.
I I don't I truthfully don'tunderstand how the Packers came
into that game against thePanthers so dull because they
hadn't been to Lambeau in solong, they were away from
Lambeau for so long.
You get in front of your homecrowd again, and that's the
performance.
That's the the like guys on thesideline looked dead.

(23:25):
There was no energy.
You had guys waving towels onthird down, but that was about
it.
Nobody on the field looked likethey had it.
It just looked like a team thatlacked juice.
So when you come out on a Mondaynight under the lights at Lambo
against the Eagles, a team thatyou expect and you you expect to
beat that you you're gonna haveto beat.
You're gonna have to beat thisteam to end up where you want to
be.

(23:45):
What are you gonna show me?
Yep.
That's one of my big questionsgonna be.
And a key for me, too, iswithout Tucker Kraft, who else
is gonna step up in that uh, whoelse is gonna step up in the
blocking game to take over whatTucker Kraft did?
Because it's gonna be tough.
He was all he was everything, hewas a lot of things.
Who's gonna step up to be thatguy?
Can Luke Musgrave step up and bea better version of himself in

(24:09):
this time that Tucker Kraft saw?
Will it be an offensive lineman?
Those are the things I'm lookingfor.
It's gotta be the run game.
The run game has got to set thetone for the Packers in this one
because the defense for theEagles, the Eagles are good
enough that if you can't get therun game going, they're gonna
exploit, they're gonna takeadvantage of what they know they
can with Jordan Love.
And that's where when he has tostart throwing the ball a lot,

(24:30):
he sometimes gets dangerous.
He sometimes gets reckless, andhe gets reckless with the deep
ball, as we saw with that sillypass that he made.
So that's something I'm worriedabout there.
Amir, last thing.
What do you got there?
What do you got there?
One last thing to wrap us uphere with this.

SPEAKER_02 (24:42):
Yeah, I have I have no expectations.
I just want them to come out andjust show like they care and
they actually put up a goodgame.
I, you know, I'm just I'm sostill blown from Sunday.
I don't even know.
I can't even really like I'mjust looking forward to the game
to get this taste out of mymouth.
That's it.

SPEAKER_04 (24:59):
Yep, yep, no, 100%.
One, I mean, just just to wrapit up there.
I mean, yes, I that game more orless surprised me because they
had already been a part of atrap game with the Browns that
they got trapped again.
I guess that was my biggestsurprise with that game against
Carolina.
So, Amor, let the people knowwhere to find you out there
across social media.

SPEAKER_02 (25:17):
Absolutely, man.
Thank you so much.
I was gonna say you can find meon uh on Twitter and X at
AMAR3455, Coast Coast Packers.
We go every Thursday night orThursdays and Fridays.
Um, we might even start doing anafter game.
We should have done one afterthat game that we needed it.
Um yeah, just find us at Coastto Coast Packers or you can find
me on Twitter.

SPEAKER_04 (25:34):
Make sure you guys check him out.
He's got tons of great stuffthere.
Make sure you guys check outCoast to Coast Packers coming up
this week.
It'll be probably Thursday,Friday there, like he said.
But make sure you're checkingout Facebook.
We'll I'll share the live outthere on Facebook and on
Twitter.
And then when we go live, youcan check that out.
We do tons of Packer Talk onthere and we'll preview this
game, talk more about thatPanther game, and then preview
this game coming up.

(25:55):
So Ammer, thank you as always.
When we come back here from thebreak, Kyle's gonna stop by.
We have some bucks talk to getto when he comes back here.
So we're gonna come back here onWisconsin Sports and Google.
I'm your host, Trage, as we comeback here on this Wednesday.
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Kyle, how are we doing on thisWednesday?

SPEAKER_01 (26:47):
I'm good.
Yeah, it's November.
So NFL teams are starting tomake that push to the playoffs.
College basketball's underway.
So it's it's a good time.

SPEAKER_04 (26:59):
And baseball is officially done yet not done,
right?
It's never done.
It's never truly done.
It's like this World Seriesends, and then everything starts
up.
Guys start getting kicked out.
We get to see who gets to becomea free agent, who's gonna go to
arbitration, everything likethat.
So craziness.
That is the MLB season.
But Kyle, as always, we gottaroll it into the mellow yellow

(27:21):
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So here is the mellow yellowminute question of the day, the
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So this is the most times amen's basketball team has opened

(28:06):
the season in the AP top five.
So your options, Kyle, andthey're the options that most
people would probably guesshere.
You have Duke, Kansas, UCLA,North Carolina, and Kentucky.
So that is our top five.
Now, Kyle, you have to put themin order.
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So hit me up right now.
Kyle, what do we got?
Top five.

SPEAKER_01 (28:43):
Okay.
Um, I think I know number one.
I'm gonna keep to the tradition,go five to one.
So five, I'm gonna say NorthCarolina.

SPEAKER_04 (28:56):
Not North Carolina.
This is a team, the last play.
I'll give you this one.
Number five was a team that wasreally good for a really long
time, and as of late, they'vegone away.

SPEAKER_01 (29:10):
Okay.
That's gonna be Duker, Kentucky.
I'm gonna say Kentucky.

SPEAKER_04 (29:19):
Not Kentucky.
Really good a long time ago, butthey went away.
They went downhill.
They not downhill, I shouldn'tsay downhill.
They they've had a programchange now, they've learned a
little bit better now.
UCLA is number five.

SPEAKER_01 (29:33):
Yeah, I should have Bill Wallon Days.

SPEAKER_04 (30:00):
That top five, most appearances in the top five.
Remember that.

SPEAKER_01 (30:05):
Okay, so now Kentucky, Kansas, Duke using all
right.
I'll go UNC.

SPEAKER_04 (30:11):
Not UNC.
Oh my god, this is crazy.
Is it is it Duke?
Not Duke, it is Kansas.
Kansas is number four.
Kansas comes in at number four.
So you have Duke, NorthCarolina, and Kentucky left.

SPEAKER_01 (30:23):
Okay.
Uh maybe I'll maybe we'll hit astride here.
Alright, so three.
Give me North Carolina.

SPEAKER_04 (30:32):
Don't try to kill North Carolina so much.

SPEAKER_01 (30:35):
Because I feel like okay, okay.
It's not North Carolina.
That's fine.
I don't want to just, you know.
Alright.

SPEAKER_04 (30:43):
So three.
Duke.
Duke is number three.
Duke is number three there.

SPEAKER_01 (30:51):
Because I'm assuming Kentucky's number one.

SPEAKER_04 (30:52):
Kentucky is number one, North Carolina comes in at
number two.
Kentucky, North Carolina, Duke,Kansas, and then UCLA are the
top five most winning, mosttimes opened in the top five.
Kansas, Kansas is always up inthere, but I think Kentucky's
been there the most.
I really have.
And UCLA hasn't been there in awhile, but I mean we went

(31:14):
through a very long stretch ofbeing out there.
So there you go.
There is a bell yellow minute,and hopefully somebody else out
there got it before Kyle didthere.
We'll make sure to check thatout.
We'll make sure to get yousurprised if you did there.
So we want to get to let's getto the Bucks, Kyle.
Let's get to the Bucks.
The Bucs have impressed to startthis season.
Uh, well, start this little bitof run here.
Five and two.

(31:34):
As we're recording, as you guysknow, pre-recorded, we're
talking to you on a Tuesday.
This is on a Wednesday.
So they're playing the Raptorsright now.
We don't know the outcome ofthat.
We know that this Bucks team hasstarted the season now.
What, six and five and two?
Five and two.
Five and two there.
Beating the Raptors once,beating the Wizards early on
there, lost to the Cavs.
Then they beat the Knicks,Warriors, lost to the Kings in
weird, a weird fashion.

(31:55):
Like no Giannis against theWarriors.
They beat them.
Then they have Giannis back forthe Kings.
They lose.
And then they beat the Pacers,which was, I think, big for the
Bucs, big for Miles Turner.
A big confidence boost there.
So Kyle, impressions of thisBucks team to start out this
young season.

SPEAKER_01 (32:11):
I mean, look, I feel like they are off to a good
start.
They're I feel like they'refinding out some things about
some of these young players thatthey they have something there.
You know, we're seeing Rollinsemerge.
You have AJ Green as asharpshooter.
I think what you're gonna noticeis the Bucks are gonna probably

(32:34):
get you with eight, nine guyswho can all average around
double figures or more.
Which look in today's game,you're not gonna necessarily see
that in a lot of places.
And I think because of that,they'll they'll handle
themselves well.
And just like every team, aslong as you know they're
healthy, I think that they cancan definitely be a top six

(32:58):
team, and they're they'reprobably doing better than you
think in terms of their offense.
Because I think a lot ofquestions before the season was
outside of Giannis, who elsewould step up?
They are fourth in scoring,averaging around 123 a game.
And yes, we know today's NBA,there's a lot of scoring, but

(33:22):
they're only giving up 118.
So the the differential is aboutfive points a game.
That's that's nothing to youknow just gloss over.
They're second in the leaguefield goal percentage, so
they're efficient scoring,shooting from the field.
They're second from three,shooting 41%, which some of that

(33:42):
is probably Giannis shooting alittle bit higher than he
probably will, but I thinkthat's something that they can
maintain 41% with the guys thatthey have shouldn't be too
crazy.
But today's NBA is shooting thethree and defending it.
They're top 10 defending thethree, only giving up 34%.
So they have the the tools andthe makings to be a very good

(34:06):
team, especially in this versionof the East this year.

SPEAKER_04 (34:10):
Yeah, no, I I like that, and that's the East is
waiting for somebody to take itat this point because there's
nobody like you're talking theCeltics, they're banged up.
You have different teams bangedup.
The Pacers, no Halburn, he'sbanged up.
So you have all these teamsbanged up, it's waiting for
somebody to come and take it.
And the Bucks could very well bethat team.
So I like that there.
Uh, you're talking about theemergence of some guys, right?
Talking about the emergence ofsome guys.

(34:31):
Let's just key in on someplayers that we've seen so far.
So the big one for me that II've loved is Ryan Rollins, a
guy who, a journeyman, was withthe uh Warriors there, they
didn't want him.
Now he's with the Bucks, and theBucs now they're utilizing him
to his fullest.
And man, he's making it uh aninteresting case for himself.

(34:51):
When Kevin Porter does comeback, how much what is the
minute load gonna be betweenthose two?
So tell me about what you'veseen from Ryan Rollins.
Not just, I mean, it's not justoffensively, it's defensively,
too, right?

SPEAKER_01 (35:03):
Yes, I mean, you alluded to that Golden State
game.
So if you were just looking atthat game and somebody said
Giannis isn't gonna play, you'dprobably wonder, well, where's
the scoring gonna come from?
Ryan Rollins led the team with32 points that game, and you
talk about defensively, he'saveraging about two, a little
over two steals a game.

(35:24):
So he's a guy getting out in thepassing angles, he's you know,
keeping guys in front of him,getting deflections, so he's
giving you that two-way play.
And even when Giannis is outthere, a lot of games, Rollins
is up there in assists.
So we know Giannis handles theball a lot, but Rollins has
shown that he's a guy who canfacilitate the offense, get guys

(35:47):
into you know their areas thatthey like to shoot from and
deliver it to them in theirshooting pocket and everything
like that.
So I do think him doing thisnow, when Porter Jr.
does come back, it does now giveyou that you know security that
if Porter Jr.
is struggling one night, you canlean on Rollins a little bit

(36:11):
more and kind of play off thetwo of them and see, hey, this
guy's hot tonight.
We'll give him more minutes ifhe if you know one of them's
cold, you go to the other one.
The more depth, the better.
So this is this is definitelygood if you're Doc, knowing that
Rollins can lead the team inscoring if Giannis needs a night
off.
And if he's playing withGiannis, he can he compliments

(36:35):
him really well.

SPEAKER_04 (36:36):
Yeah, and and we did talk about in the in the
offseason, well, before last Ithink it was last week, maybe
week before, we were talkingabout what rotations might look
like.
And we had talked about, I mean,could you see the Bucks maybe
when Kevin Porter does comeback?
Because you're gonna have ColeAnthony, who has he's been
playing well too.
Could you see them going with atwo-guard look like that where
they go smaller and try to movethe ball faster?

(36:58):
Try to, you know, I don't knowif you want to say like play
like Golden State, right?
Where they would go with thosesmall ball lineups with Draymond
running the five.
Could you see the Bucs kind ofleaning towards that direction?
Where I don't know if you'd sayit's gonna be small because
you're still gonna have Giannisout there, but playing a little
bit of a smaller lineup with twoguard look like that.

SPEAKER_01 (37:16):
Yeah, and it that can work against certain teams.
Uh, look, I'm I'm a Celtics fan.
You can do that against theCeltics because the Celtics
aren't a big team, you can do itagainst like a Miami because
Giannis can cover out of bio, soyou're not really worried about
you know getting destroyed onthe glass.
And I I do think, once again,today's NBA where you know teams

(37:41):
like the more athletic, kind ofsmaller, big men that way they
can run a little bit more.
I think, like you're saying, theBucs are now equipped to play
that way.
Last year's team, I don't know.
Because you had to work in guyslike Brooke Lopez and and well,
Bobby Poris is kind of a smallfive, but when Brooke was on the
floor, you would never want torun a lineup kind of like that

(38:04):
with him.
But now you're more athletic,you're you're you can play that
style.
And a lot of the teams in theEast are playing that way.
So I wouldn't be surprised ifyou don't see some kind of form
of that lineup with the Bucsnow.

SPEAKER_04 (38:19):
There is one guy that I believe when I look at
this Bucs team right now, ifthey could get him going and
find a rhythm with him, thisBucs team could take the next
step.
Kyle Kuzma.
He just seems like he has allthe drive, and he he's everybody
loves him.
Giannis loves him.
He's like, this is the greatestguy in the world.
I love his, you know, his histhe presence that he brings, the

(38:40):
leadership, everything.
I love what he brings to thebasketball court.
It's just if he could find therhythm.
You see him make good moves,good shots.
He makes great moves.
It's just he can't finish,right?
It's those little things.
So, I mean, is a guy like KyleKuzma, if he can come along and
he can be, I don't need him tobe, you know, like a third, a
third guy, like a third option,a fourth option, a fifth option,
whatever.

(39:01):
If he could be that guy, do youbelieve this Bucks team, you
know, because you were justtalking older in the top six,
right?
If he takes that step for youand becomes a consistent guy,
could this Buc team be a topfour team this year?
Could you see, could you seethat kind of elevation just with
a guy like a Kyle Kuzma cominginto his own?

SPEAKER_01 (39:20):
I mean, yeah, like all you really need Kuzma to do
is take advantage of mismatches.
Like if he has a bigger guy whoswitches out onto him, he should
be able to take them off thedribble.
If he has a smaller guy, you'dlike to understand, you'd like
to believe that you could givehim the ball and he could
overpower him.
And you know, last season he hadissues finishing around the rim.

(39:45):
I think with the Bucs, he'sgonna have to be able to do that
because a lot of times ifGiannis is attracting a lot of
attention defensively andKuzma's like in the opposite
corner, there's up there'sthere's gonna be opportunities
for him to dive to the hoop andget easy buckets.
I think for Kuzma, it's more oflike a confidence thing.

(40:05):
If the Bucs show him that theyreally want him, they want him
to be part of the future.
I think you may get a betterversion of him.
Because if you look at hiscareer, he started with the
Lakers.
That was supposed to be, I guesshe was supposed to be part of
the future there, and thenLeBron kind of comes in and he's
not.
Then he goes to Washington,where Washington's a losing

(40:26):
situation, so he probably gotinto some bad habits.
Now you're in Milwaukee with aguy like Giannis, who we know
has the work ethic that's kindof unmatched, like he's out
there, he's giving it it all.
I would not be surprised if bymid-season Kuzma is a regular
contributor, and Bucks fans arelike, Okay, that this is the guy

(40:50):
who the Lakers probably thoughtthey were getting.
Yeah, like for me, if Kuzma's a15 and seven or eight kind of
guy, I I could live with that.

SPEAKER_04 (41:00):
I love that.

SPEAKER_01 (41:01):
So he's a little bit, he's a little under that
right now, but I think he canelevate his game a little bit
more.

SPEAKER_04 (41:04):
I like that.
I like that.
I like I like the thought ofgetting a guy like him because
he's uh you can tell he's a hardworker.
I think I think he is Giannis isstarting to rub off on him, I
think, because I think he'sreally settled into his own in
Milwaukee.
He's just trying to provehimself.
And I you love guys like that,especially on a team like this,
where that's what they want outof him.
So love that, love that they'reKyle.
We gotta we gotta hit acommercial break quick.
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So, Kyle, let's talk about thistrade deadline.
It came and gone.
It's came and came came andgone, came and went.
Came and went.
I don't know.
It's a it's late in the nighthere already.
Anyways, anyways.
So we see the NFL tradedeadline.
See, words are starting to slipme.

(42:51):
This is where we're at.
This is where we're at.
I'm just I'm just gonna getwe're just gonna end it.
We're just gonna end it righthere.
We're done.
We're done.
We're out of here.
We're done.
So the NFL trade deadline hascome and gone.
There you go.
I got it now.
I got it.
See, I figured it out.
Words, words are toughsometimes.
Um surprising moves, Kyle.
Who okay?
Let's go like this.
Who are the surprises?

(43:12):
Were there any surprise playersto get moved and surprise teams
to make those moves?
I guess.
Was there any of those that yousaw?

SPEAKER_01 (43:21):
I mean, look, I guess if we're gonna be honest,
I was a little surprised by theSauce Gardner deal.

SPEAKER_04 (43:28):
That's true.

SPEAKER_01 (43:29):
I know the Jets have had their issues.
I just thought Sauce Gardner wasone of those guys that they were
gonna keep no matter what.
Like he's under contract until Ithink 2030.
He's still young.
He seemed like he'd be an AaronGlenn type of guy on that
defense.
So that one did shock me.
They got look, they got twofirst rounders out of it.

(43:51):
Oh, sorry, no, that's the QuinnWilliams.
No, they did.
They got well, they got they gottwo picks out of it.
They got a fourth and a fifth.
No, I'm gonna get the wrongtrade again.
They did get two first rounders.
I'm I guess we're in thistogether.
We're we're just two firstrounders and a wide receiver and
Adonai Mitchell, who we all knowran's game, let go of the ball

(44:13):
before he scored.
So I feel like both teams kindof got something that they
wanted.
I do think the Colts are takinga risk here, though, because
Sauce Gardner's game has slippeda little bit.
But if you're the Colts and youhad an opportunity, why not?
So that was a surprising movefor me for sure.

SPEAKER_04 (44:31):
I do, I agree.
I was surprised to see Saucemove.
Um, but I would agree with thethe take of his play has gone
south.
Now that could be the Jets alsobeing uh because you watch like
Daniel Jones.
This is a team of a guy whoknows what it's like to play for
a bad organization, go to a goodone.
Now it looks a little bitbetter.
So maybe Sauce finds it with abetter defense there where he

(44:53):
isn't you know relied on soheavily to it, you know, stop
whatever mess they're in rightthen.
So I I could see it working out,but also at the same time, I
mean the Colts got they got apretty good bargain out of this.
There, his contract's only gonnacost him about 26 mil for the
five remaining years on thedeal, which isn't terrible.
So the Colts kind of made outdecent.

(45:14):
It's it was a I think it was agood move for the Colts.
They got some at least depth,right?
If it isn't the greatest cornerin the world, they got some
depth.
Now moving on from two firstrounders, that's a different
story, but that's what happenedthere.
Um, a weird one.
Let's go with weird.
What do you think about thecowboys making moves?

SPEAKER_01 (45:33):
I mean, look, Quinnen Williams is another guy
that I I guess I was a littlesurprised the Jets moved off of
him, but it's like Jerry waskind of telling us that they
probably won't be active becausethere isn't a move that
necessarily does anything forthem this year, and then they go

(45:54):
and get him and you know moveoff Mazzy Smith in the deal.
They got two picks as well.
So if you're the Cowboys, you'regonna have to you're gonna have
to hope that Quentin Williamsbecomes a dominant force in the
middle of your line because thatdefense needs a lot of help.
So you need Quentin Williams tobe like a game wrecker to help

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the guys on the back end.
And if he's not that, then thismove doesn't really do much of
anything for me.

SPEAKER_04 (46:22):
No, when you look at that secondary, that secondary
needs like an overhaul.
They they need to just clearhouse with what they got, and I
think he's that's the problem,is he wants to say Jerry Jones.
My problem is he wants to stayso relevant that he actually
makes it worse because he can'tjust blow it up.
Sometimes you just gotta blow itup, you just gotta blow it up,

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but bite your losses.
Go.
I mean, they got draft picksgalore right now at the Packers,
right?
The Packers sent them some draftpicks there, so they they have
those picks.
You don't need those picks.
Go get yourself some back enddefense, guys.
Draft correctly, which issometimes a difficult thing, but
draft correctly, especially ifyou're Jerry, because Jerry's
the only one in the room makingthat decision of who to take.
But it's just it seems likethey're trying to force

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something that isn't there.
Isn't there?
You're trying to add on pieceswhen you should be moving
pieces, move off of some ofthese guys on that defense.
Do do something out of thenormal, try to back, get some
picks because look at yourdefense right now.
They're a mess.
They're they're a mess.
I mean, could you realisticallyright now look at the cowboys
defense and say I would wantthat defense?

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No, no, maybe like Kenny Clark,because I still like Kenny, but
outside of that, it's a mess.
Um, let's Jacoby Myers.
Jacoby Myers, what do you thinkabout that move?
If we figured he would get movedoff, what do you think about
him?

SPEAKER_01 (47:42):
I mean, Jacoby Myers is a you know, he he's not a
flashy wide receiver, he's he'skind of like a chain mover, like
he he can get you first downs,he has reliable hands.
I mean, he won it out of Vegas,so you you feel like you'll
probably get a more motivatedguy right now.
And for Jacksonville, it seemslike their season's kind of on

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the ropes, and this is a movethat they're hoping can kind of
give them some juice uh to pairalong with Brian Thomas Jr.
Uh it's it's kind of like anothing trade for me, but I
guess I see why the Jags are arejust pulling straws here and
hoping for something great.

SPEAKER_04 (48:25):
Who would you say is the biggest trade deadline
winner and who's your biggestloser?
If you had to give me one ofeach, who's your biggest winner,
who's your biggest loser?

SPEAKER_01 (48:35):
I mean, I think the winner has to be the Eagles.
I mean, they made a lot of theirmoves kind of before, but I'm
I'll kind of work that in.
You get Jalen Phillips, who's agood uh pass rusher, Michael
Carter is a good depth corner,and Jay Alexander, we'll see.
But it's it was a need for them.

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You know, anybody but a DoryJackson, so they're kind of
stacking people ahead of them.
I I think you have to give it tothe Eagles.
Losers, it might be it might bethe Jets because they probably
should have sold off more thanthey did.
And you could probably throw theDolphins in there as well.
Like those are two teams goingnowhere.

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There's a lot of speculationaround their team, and they kind
of did a little bit, but I feellike they could have done more.

SPEAKER_04 (49:26):
Okay, yeah, I like that.
I like that.
I it's it's so easy to take likethe cop-out answers.
You could have said, you know,the Patriots, you could have
said, you know, a bunch of theseum Packers, right?
A lot of people will probablysay the Packers because they
thought, oh, Tucker Kraft'sinjury happened, they need to go
find themselves a tight end.
Well, it's hard to which theydid, it's just it's hard to find

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a guy where you're gonna bringhim in for a year, and you're
gonna find a really good guythat only wants is a is a year,
and you're not gonna have tosell the farm for him.
So that's where you run intothat problem where you're
reacting off of what justhappened, and it just so happens
that an injury just happened asa trade deadline was, you know,
a couple days later.
Well, that doesn't work out sowell.
So there's always that instant,well, we should have gone and

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got this tight end.
They should have went and got acorner.
I've always said that theyshould go get a guy.
Guten Kins has proven that hewon't.
So, I mean, that's just yeah,that's just the Packers and the
Packers being the Packers.
So, Kyle, we're gonna do threequick pick-ems.
Kyle's gonna pick his threegames of the weekend.
I'm gonna pick my three games ofthe weekend and winner, and then
we're going to say, winner, Idon't know.

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The winner wins.
I don't know.
We'll we'll keep track at theend of the season.
The winner will win something.
I have no idea.
So, Kyle, pick your top threegames.
We'll go, we'll go you, then me,then you know, back and forth.
But what is your first pick thatyou're gonna pick for this
weekend?

SPEAKER_01 (50:45):
Okay, so first pick of the weekend, I am going to
take the Rams on the roadagainst the Niners.

SPEAKER_04 (50:55):
Rams on the road against the Niners.
I like that one.
I like that one.
Let's see here.
Kyle took the Rams.
I am going to take.
Give me.
Oh, this that game could beugly.
Jets Browns could be ugly.
Oh, give me the pa give me thePanthers.

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Give me the Panthers at homeagainst the Saints.
I'll take the Panthers at home.
They just beat the Packers.
I'll take them.
I'll pick them.
I'll take them.

SPEAKER_01 (51:22):
Okay.
I will go.
There's some interesting oneshere.
Okay.
So I'll take the give me theTexans at home against the Jags.

SPEAKER_04 (51:39):
Texans at home against the reeling Jaguars.
Kyle said their season'steetering.
The Texans may put it away.

SPEAKER_00 (51:46):
Hmm.

SPEAKER_04 (51:47):
Let's see here.
You went with a little bit of abetter game there.
So I'm gonna have to go with alittle bit of more of a bold
game.
Give me the Ravens to go on theroad to the Vikings and win.
Give me the Ravens on the road.

SPEAKER_01 (52:03):
That's an interesting game.
Those are two teams that notreally know who they are right
now.

SPEAKER_04 (52:08):
Yeah, they both need it desperately.

SPEAKER_01 (52:12):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (52:13):
Last pick here, Kyle.
Okay, we gotta go with the boldones.
There's some big ones.
Wait, what do we got here?
Some big ones on here.

SPEAKER_01 (52:18):
I will go bold.
Give me the Giants on the Roadto beat the Bears.

SPEAKER_04 (52:26):
Oh, I was gonna say that one too.
I was thinking that one.
I like that one.
Giants on the road, Bears.
Everybody's like, well, they wonlast week.
And it's like, yeah, but when Iturned it on, it was 49 or 47 to
29 or something.
And I was like, this should beover.
And then all of a sudden they'relike, oh, the bears are just
squeaking it out.
I'm like, what?
What happened?

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Like there was like four minutesleft.
Like, what happened in thisgame?
Oh, give me the bold.
Wait, I need a bold one.
Let's see here.
Sunday night football.
Give me the Chargers over theSteelers.
Give me Chargers over theSteelers on Sunday night
football.
I like that one.
I don't want to take PackersEagles.
That was my next bold pick, butdon't want to do it.

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Don't want to do it there.
Can't have the announcers check.
So, Kyle, thank you as alwaysfor stopping by tonight.
Let the people know where tofind you out there across social
media.

SPEAKER_01 (53:17):
Just look me up on YouTube or Facebook, Chompin at
the Bit.
You'll get the links to all myother socials there.
That's the easiest way to findme.

SPEAKER_04 (53:25):
Thank you, as always, Kyle, for stopping by
tonight here.
Make sure you guys are checkinghim out, Chomping at the Bit.
You can find he's got all kindsof NFL content.
He's going to talk about thistrade deadline.
He's got NBA stuff right now.
He's got a whole mess of thingsgoing on over there at Chomping
at the Bit.
So make sure you're checking himout there.
And thank you guys, as always,for tuning in tonight here to
the show.
I hope you guys enjoyed it.
I hope you guys enjoy the restof your Wednesday and the rest

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of your week.
But until I talk to you guysagain next Wednesday, sure.