October 8, 2025 • 54 mins
A mind game won before first pitch. That’s the heartbeat of this one, as we unpack why starting Aaron Ashby wasn’t about perfection on the mound—it was about forcing Craig Counsell into a lineup Milwaukee could exploit. We walk through Pat Murphy’s logic, the ripple effects of sidelining a key Cubs bat, and how a bullpen built for length turned a shaky first into a controlled finish. Then we zoom out: what makes the Brewers so dangerous right now isn’t star wattage—it’s optionality. One night it’s eight singles and three doubles; the next, a three-run jolt from Andrew Vaughn, a phone-call moonshot from William Contreras, and Jackson Chourio splitting the park in two. Pressure, contact, timely power, and relentless at-bats add up to a style that travels in October.
We also spotlight the energy fueling this run. Contreras’ Players’ Tribune message—“No one better than Milwaukee right now”—is more than a quote; it’s a statement of identity. You feel it when Jacob Misiorowski’s adrenaline hits 104 and the dugout rides the wave without losing the plan. On the pitching side, Freddie Peralta remains ace-steady, Quinn Priester’s acquisition looks smarter by the day, and the pen’s mix of bridges and flamethrowers gives Murphy the freedom to play matchups rather than pray for length. That’s how you hold back Priester for a pivotal road start and still keep Peralta aligned for the next round.
We don’t shy away from the noise, either. A Cubs column took aim at Milwaukee’s ire toward Counsell; we explain why it misses the point and why respect in rivalry isn’t purchased—it’s kept. Then we pivot to the Badgers: a best-in-tenure opening script at Michigan, a curious QB rotation, unused timeouts, and why Iowa at home feels like the season’s hinge. There’s promise on the line and in the pocket, but decisions have to match urgency.
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This is Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trade.
Your place for all thingsWisconsin Sports.
Now, your host, Trage.
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How are we doing, everybody?
And welcome into WisconsinSports on the Go with Trade.
I'm your host, Trage, as we comeback here on this October 8th
edition of the show here.
I hope you guys are enjoyingyour Wednesday so far.
I hope you guys enjoyed yourweekend.
It was a great weekend, an evenbetter weekend because the
Brewers, the way that thisseries has started against the
Cubs, it has been fantastic.
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So we're going to get into thebrewers today.
I can't wait.
I my wife asked me, she's like,you know, what's the hardest
part about preparing for theshow?
Because as you guys know, thisisn't like this is my day job
right here.
This is, I mean, just uh aWednesday thing right now.
Until we talk, the radio isgoing to talk about doing more,
but as of right now, it's a it'sa Wednesday thing.
So I have a day job on top ofthis.
So it's like, as what's thehardest part?
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Getting the material together.
Like, what is the hardest partabout getting this show?
And I was like, it's the intro.
I said, it's always the intro.
What do you start out with rightoff the bat, talking about how
do you get into it?
How do you get with the flow?
Because after you get with theflow of things, it's like a
conversation.
I mean, you just you just kindof it just flows off your
tongue.
But it's always the beginning.
And I today I sat there and I'mlike, how am I going to get this
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show ready?
How am I going to get into itright off the bat?
And I was, I was easy.
The brewers.
It was 100% the brewers.
What we saw over the weekendthere, the absolute domination.
And not to mention my favoritepart, and this is the part that
made me chuckle.
Because we said to ourselves,okay, the Brewers know the Cubs,
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the Cubs know the Brewers.
They're going into the series.
The managers know each other.
The players know each other bynow.
They've seen each other multipletimes.
What's going to be the edge?
What's going to be thedifference?
And I know Cub fans don't.
There's some that don't want toblame Craig.
They're like, oh well, well, youknow, the lineup's been bad and
they haven't been hitting andthis and that.
And it's like, okay, okay, I getthat.
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But Pat Murphy outmanaged CraigCouncil over the weekend, and it
was in the Monday night game.
We were everybody was confusedbecause the big thing was, why
are the Brewers starting AaronAshby and not Quinn Priester?
We we were all confused.
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We sat there and it was it wasalmost, you know, when when it
all was happening, or well, whenthe playoff was getting set up,
when the when the schedule wasset up and everything like that,
we said to ourselves, okay,there is Freddie Perl's gonna
start game one.
After that, game two, youexpected Quinn to Priest.
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Pretty simple.
I mean it was prettystraightforward.
Then it was, well, we don't knowwho's starting game two.
And everybody was I mean,everybody, myself, and we sat
there, uh, what do you what doyou mean?
Quinn Priester seems like theobvious answer.
It would have been BrandonWoodruff, but Brandon Woodruff
isn't ready.
So what's gonna happen here?
Well, you could go off of, and Idid see a stat, that the Cubs
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are one of the better teams inbaseball at hitting the cutter,
and they're very good at hittingthe sinker.
So that's something that QuinnPriester they hit sinkers and
cutters hard.
That's something Quinn Priesterloves to roll with.
Maybe that was part of thedecision to keep him out of game
two.
But I, you know, when you reallylooked at it, he started Aaron
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Ashby, which was a lefty, whichthen in turn Michael Bush
doesn't hit lefties very well.
Pat Murphy played played thegame.
That's the funniest part.
That that was the part that mademe change and just made me sit
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back and go, Pat Murphy justoutmanaged Craig Council before
the game moved.
That I thought.
It wasn't a oh well.
It was a he made Craig Counseltake out one of his better
hitters, and one of the one ofthe actual like if you there was
a list before the postseasoneven started.
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What Michael Bush was one of heis one of the better hitters in
the postseason in this race.
2025 regular season, he was a261 hitter, 34 home runs and 90
uh RBIs there.
You made Craig Counsel take oneof his better hitters out of
lineup and put in Justin Turner.
Now, I'm not saying that JustinTurner is just some like just
some random guy.
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He's been there.
He's I mean, had some of themost postseason experience out
of all the guys who were in thepostseason this year.
I mean, you talk about multipleyears with the Dodgers out
there, and the Brewers have seenhim many times.
So this is a guy who's beenthere, done that.
Not quite the hitter thatMichael Bush has been.
So the ability of Pat Murphy tosay, Oh, I like, I like Aaron
Ashby's ability to go out there.
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Now, did it work?
No.
He gave up three rounds.
Suzuki took him deep.
Okay.
And you saw all across socialmedia everybody freaking out
about that.
They're like, oh wow, you know,why?
Why?
This is what happens when youwhen you start a guy like Aaron
Ashby.
Why would you start a guy likeAaron Ashby?
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This was bound to happen.
It just came back to bite you inthe butt.
It did.
I mean, it in all in allfairness, it did.
It doesn't mean that it was aterrible decision or not a smart
move by Pat Murphy.
It doesn't mean that at all.
You're going to the way that theway that the Brewers have
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operated this season, if youlook at the opening day roster
versus what you got now, evenwhat you were halfway through
the year, they didn't get thisfar by doing things the right
way.
Kosher made sense.
None of it made sense.
And you know what any lineups Ilooked at, we all looked at,
where we said, what is he doing?
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What's he throwing out theretonight?
What is this?
Four hole.
How many times did you look at alineup like that?
But they won the game.
They found a way to win it.
That's exactly what we saw here.
Sure, Aaron Ashby gave up threeruns.
Sure.
It was a bullpen game.
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And it worked out, didn't it?
We sit here and we and I I'm Iam I am subject to this too and
guilty of this.
Questioning Pat Murphy and hisdecisions and what he does.
I'm done with it.
I I have questioned this guy.
I've said to myself, why isIsaac Collins not out there?
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And I love that quote from IsaacCollins when they said about
Jackson Churio, and IsaacCollins said point blank, he's
like, This this guy isinstrumental to us.
He said, I hope he playstonight.
That he's that's what's best forthe team.
But if if he can't go, I will domy best to step up in that
spotlight.
Not word for word or anyprobably anywhere near the
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quote, but you get the gist.
You can go back, look at thequote.
It was it's close, it's in theballpark, right?
In the ballpark.
But Isaac Collins, when he saidthat, um, I said to myself, man,
that speaks volumes for whatthis team is.
And then I read WilliamContreras's trip player tribute.
And if you haven't read that, Iwanted to run through a wall
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when I read that.
I I what I read that and I ranupstairs and I was, I told my
wife, I'm like, I gotta getmyself a William Contreras
jersey because I, you know, I'vegone through the phases with
William Contreras.
I have.
I've gone through the phaseswhere I was like, I don't know
if he's trying hard anymore,this and that.
And at one point this year, Iwas I was thinking to myself,
just put him on the IL, bringCuero up, just let this guy
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walk.
Like, he's just he's not trying,he's hurt, everything like that.
I listened to him, and then Ilistened to him after the game
there uh in that pressconference.
There is there's nothing morethat I want than William
Contreras to go up there andsucceed at this point and just
light the world up.
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He is they they asked him inthat press conference, they
said, you know, who are youcalling?
Because after he hit that homerun in game two, he held up the
phone to and that that wasawesome.
That was awesome.
Pat Murphy talked about it.
He said, you know, aboutadmiring home runs.
He's like, well, you know, I'mnot gonna tell guys they don't
they shouldn't.
Like, I think there's anexcessive amount, this and that.
And when he he watched thatthing go and he like ring ring
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answered the phone and then hungit up, and they asked him, they
said, Who are you calling?
And he said, 'Brewer fans.' AndI I was yes, I William
Contreras, this whole thing, andlistening to Andrew Vaughn,
listening to McGill and themgive praise to Aaron Ashby.
This team won because they're ateam.
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To round it all out to where Iwas going.
This team won this seasonbecause this is how they did it.
It wasn't right.
It didn't seem like it was gonnago right.
They're like Isaac Collins said,this team's playing with house
money.
They're not supposed to be here,they weren't supposed to win
this many games.
There was they had no they haveno business doing what they're
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doing.
But how did they get there?
That's what the the biggestthing that I think we we love to
hate is that the brewers love todo things in unorthodox.
They don't do things the waythat we've envisioned them,
right?
You think to yourself, oh, theDodgers.
It's pretty simple.
You're gonna roll out Yamamoto,you're gonna roll out Glasnow,
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you're gonna roll out Kershaw,whoever it is.
You have your starters, boom,boom, boom.
Phillies have their starters,boom, boom, boom.
The Brewers, they've been thrownfor a loop a couple different
times because you thought JacobMizerelski was gonna be a guy,
and then he struggled.
He pitched great in game two,we'll get to that.
But you have a guy like JacobMs.
He wasn't gonna be able to fitthe fold as a starter, you
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didn't think.
Brandon Woodruff came back, hewas fantastic.
He gets hurt, he can't go inthis series.
So then you have to think toyourself, well, what now?
How do I throw a monkey wrenchinto this?
Because I feel like, I feellike, and that's where Pat
Murphy was, I feel like we havethis thing.
We know what we have to do.
We have a deep bullpen, which isrested, because you look at what
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game one entailed, they wereblowing them out.
They didn't have to really workthrough the bullpen in game one.
So you look at it and you saidto yourself, I have this rested
bullpen, what do I do with it?
Okay, I can pitch a bullpen gamein game two, and I trust my
guys, and this was the thingtoo.
I trust my guys, but at the foreend of that of that trust, I
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have Jacob Mazarowski.
I have Robert Casser.
I have guys who can extend thisthing as starters forward, and I
can save Quinn Priester.
One of the better pitchers inbaseball this season has been
Quinn Priester, one of thebetter trade accusations that
word butchered it last week.
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I'm gonna butcher it again thisweek.
One of the better trade deadlineadds before even the trade
deadline, Quinn Priester to theBrewers.
You get to have him for gamethree of the series in Chicago
with a chance to go to the NLCS.
I it's setting up just likethat.
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And then you can have Quintanago in game four, and then you
would have Freddie Peralta forgame five, if needed, back in
Milwaukee.
And if you don't need him, ifGwyn Priester can win this game,
you have Freddie Peralta forgame one in the NLCS.
Even possibly if game four youpitch Quintana, they win, you
still have Freddie Peralta forgame one in the NLCS.
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So you have now opened thisavenue where you have a lot of
pitching options and a lot ofability to get yourself out of
places.
The Cubs, and this is whereCraig Council outmanaged himself
once again, and this is whereI'm praising Pat Murphy and
saying that Craig Council has,in fact, struggled Matthew Boyd
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game one and Managa game two.
It shouldn't have lined up likethat if you're Craig.
But this is where the Brewers,being the way that they are,
this is where they've takenadvantage of it.
And that's where I'm getting atwith this whole thing.
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The Brewers, the the decision togo with Aaron Ashby in game two
was Brewer baseball.
Didn't have to make sense.
It made sense to Pat Murphy, andit got Craig Counsel to tip his
hand by pull putting JustinTurner in there right off the
bat.
It brought in the flexibilityfor the Brewers to okay, now
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Nick Mears, they did burn NickMears for a third of an inning,
but then they got the lead.
You saw Jacob Mizarowski comein, and they just ran with it.
Maybe that wasn't playing thewhole time.
You never know.
What I'm saying is, man oh man,what a start to the series.
What a start to this for theMilwaukee Brewers, this playoff
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run.
And I I listen, you know, youlisten to that, or not listen,
but you read the player tribute,and I think I was listening to a
guy read it.
Uh, he's from ESPN, Milwaukee.
I can't remember his name offthe top of my head, but he was
reading it, and you listen towhat William Contreras said, and
he said, you know, basically,there is if there's a better
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team out there, he hasn't seenone yet.
I I truly believe that.
After watching game one and twoof this series, I truly believe
that.
And I'm going to explain why.
I'm going to explain why when Icome back from the break here.
I'm going to explain why Ibelieve there truly is no team
that I have seen right now inthis playoffs that is better
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than the Milwaukee Brewers.
I'll explain it when I come backfrom the break here.
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So coming back from the breakhere, I had I said right away, I
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said we're gonna go into the myopinion of why I believe the
Brewers are still the best teamin the baseball right now.
But I wanted to read something.
So this came from WilliamContreras, and I kind of
mentioned it there off the topof the show, but I didn't have
the full quote here.
But this is what I had mentionedoff the top of the show here.
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This was from the WilliamContreras player tribune that he
did and that that they wrote forhim.
And this is what he said.
So he said, I still have alittle regret, regret years
later, for being rude to myagent about the trade.
Milwaukee?
Wow, what a wrong way to react.
Now I hope I spend my wholecareer here and I hope to be on
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the first World Series winner inBrewer's history.
It'll happen, I bet.
It's like Bob always said, noone better than you.
Well, actually, Bob, probablysome are better than me.
I'm not the best.
None of our group is.
But if you're telling me anotherteam is the best, man, I swear I
haven't seen them.
No one better than Milwaukeeright now.
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No one better than us.
I love that quote.
I I heard that.
I like I said, I was listeningto uh the guy down there from
ESB and Milwaukee.
I heard that.
I wanted to run through a wall,I tell you.
That that quote right there,that got me jacked up for Brewer
Baseball on Saturday.
And then I was just all in.
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I mean, I was already all in,don't get me wrong, but I was
all in on some brewer baseball.
So that was awesome.
That was awesome there uh fromWilliam Contreras.
So I went to the break and Isaid to myself, I said to you
guys, well, I said to myself, Isaid to you guys, the Brewers
were the best team in theplayoffs.
And I wanted, I'm gonna explainwhy.
Why I believe the Brewers arethe best team in the playoffs.
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I'd love to hear your guys'thoughts on the Brewers, my next
comments, anything like that.
I believe the Brewers are thebest team in the playoffs, and
this is why.
When I watch the rest of theseseries, when I watch the
Phillies, when I watch theDodgers, when I watch the
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Yankees, some of these otherteams, even a team like you
could, I don't know if you'd saythe Blue Jays, because Blue Jays
can hit.
Just looking across the scope ofthe playoffs right now.
I say to myself, which teamshave multiple ways to beat you?
Like you look at the Yankees.
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I don't believe the Yankees canbeat you.
The Yankees can't beat you.
Okay, I'm not even gonna say Idon't believe they can.
The Yankees can't beat youwithout the long ball.
They can't.
I'm watching it, I'm seeing it.
We're watching it in this seriesagainst the Blue Jays.
How do they come back?
Long ball.
How did they lose?
How do they get out of thisseries to begin with?
They couldn't hit it.
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It's real simple when it comesto the Yankees.
Even a team like the Phillies,they haven't been able to
connect on the long ball.
Why are they losing 2-0 in aseries right now to the Dodgers?
They can't connect on a longball.
Kyle Schwarmer becomesirrelevant when the long ball
isn't there.
The Brewers have this crazyability where we watched it over
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two games.
No, I know game three ishappening as I'm talking right
now, so I can't vouch for what'shappening right now in the
Brewers game.
But games one and two.
Game one, we saw the Brewers goeight singles, three doubles,
score nine runs.
It went crazy fast there on theCubs.
Game two, we saw him gothree-run home run by Andrew
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Vaughn, solo shot by WilliamContreras, and a three-run shot
by Jackson Churio to dead centerthere.
Set up by guys getting on base.
You know, we watched it beforeVaughn.
You had Contreras dump a singlewith two outs.
You had Yelich dump a singlewith two outs, and then Vaughn
comes up to hits the home run.
Contreras, bomb.
And then Churio, I think Durbingot hit by a pitch, and then
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Ortiz singled the center.
And that brought up Churio.
Ortiz playing an inch.
Ortiz is batting really well inthe nine-hole right now.
I have a bet going on with myuncle.
He told me that Joey Ortiz isgoing to hit 300 or above here
in this in this series.
I said there ain't no way.
Right now he's batting above 300going into game three.
So I might lose five bucks, butI'll be okay if they sweep the
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series because Joey Ortiz wentlike he said he's gonna go three
for four in the series sweep.
So if he's right on that one,here we'll see if we'll see if
he's listening to this part.
I'll give him an extra five ifhe's right that Joey Ortiz goes
three for four.
I'll give him ten bucks in totalthere.
Uh going off this series.
But the Brewers, they to me arethe best team because they do
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they can win games in multipleways.
Offensively, they get on base,they have guys who can steal
bases, they put the ball inplay, they make you make they
make you make mistakes, theymake you have to earn it out
there.
As we saw in game one, Sal putit in play.
You knew guys were busting itaround.
Nico Horner made the mistakeover there at second base.
You have those kinds of thingsthat you know, everybody says,
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Wow, just the Brewers doingthis, you know, silly stuff, and
you can't win baseball gameslike that.
You gotta hit the long ball.
I I really think why did theysay that?
They just ticked them off.
Like going into game uh two ofthat series, and they just
started launching the ball.
I I said to myself, I said, theyjust ticked him off.
That's all they did.
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After that, Andrew Vaughn homerun.
I was like, Well, they justproved they can hit the long
ball too.
Watch this.
Boom, William Contreras.
It was that was that was crazy.
That was crazy.
That was a crazy uh uh sequenceof events there uh in that game
one or game two there to startall that one because you had
Suzuki go deep in the first topof the first, bottom of the
first.
Brewers are like, it's I gotnervous.
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I don't know if I got nervous,nervous, but I said, oh boy,
here we go.
Here we go.
Like it's gonna be a game now.
And then we watched as Brewersgot a guy on two outs, Brewers
got a guy on, another guy on,and Andrew Vaughn launched that
one, and it was like, All right,all right, there we go.
We're back, we're nodded, andthen from there, boom,
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Mizerowski came in, wasfantastic, and it all just went
there.
The Brewers have multiple waysto beat you on offense, and then
I look at the pitching side ofit.
You have a guy like FreddiePeralta, who has been, if it
wasn't for guys like Paul Skeensof the world, would be a very
good chance he'd have a CyYoung.
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But you got to deal with PaulSkeens, and Freddie's been
fantastic.
So Freddie, he's gonna havedefinitely have some votes there
for uh Cy Young.
He won't get it, it's gonna bePaul Skeens, but he's definitely
gonna have some votes.
So you got you got that, you gotthe starting pitching aspect
where you have a guy likeFreddie backed up by a guy like
Quinn Priester, who's beennothing but fantastic since
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coming to Milwaukee.
And then you have Jose Quintanato back that thing up.
You have guys like Ms.
Rowski out in the bullpen, youhave Robert Gasser out there,
Logan Henderson's supposed to beon the men.
Maybe we see him as they getfurther into the playoffs.
We'll see on that one.
Brandon Woodruff, hopefully,right?
Knock on wood.
We see him back and healthierpretty darn soon.
You got this pitching staff,though it seems deep.
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The thing with it is they have alot of length in their bullpen.
And when I say length, I'mlooking at the guys that they
have out there, and I think thatis a strong suit of this team,
is the the ability that theyhave where they can go to an
Aaron Ashby for multipleinnings.
His longest outing was, Ibelieve, like three and a third.
You could go to an Aaron Ashbyfor three and a third, you could
go to a DL Hall for threeinnings, and you could feel
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comfortable.
Grant Anderson could go acouple.
I don't know if you feel realcomfortable.
He's been good this year.
Tobias Myers when he's on theroster.
I don't know if he's not even onthe roster, but when he's on the
roster there.
You have a Tobias Myers that cango for you.
Chad Patrick's been fantasticfor uh for the Brewers this
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season, and he was fantastic inthat game, too, there.
So you have him that you cantalk about there.
You have a lot of options outthere in the bullpen, and that's
not even getting to thehigh-leverage guys.
When you look over at the highleverage guys and you say to
yourself, oh, now we have guyslike Jared Canning who's been
good.
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You have Nick Mears who's beengood.
Aaron Ashby can actually beroped into that grouping if you
wanted to rope him into there.
And then you talk about a guylike Abnier Uribe and Jared, or
not Jared County.
We said Jared Canning twicethere.
Um Trevor McGill in thatgrouping there.
You have your high-leverageguys.
The Brewers have depth.
And depth that they can go, thatyou can trust that you can have
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a bullpen game with a lot ofarms and a lot of talent.
That's where I thought CraigCouncil, when he was saying, Oh,
I'm gonna go bullpen, he doesn'thave that depth in that bullpen
like the Milwaukee Brewers do.
And that I don't think you lookacross the board, the Phillies
would probably have one of thebetter bullpens.
And the Phillies are on the fasttrack out.
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The Dodgers' weak point is theirbullpen.
The Yankees don't have a greatbullpen if you can get to a guy
like Devin Williams.
And then, I mean, Bednar, theBrewers have hit Bednar in the
past, so I'm gonna say theYankees aren't a better bullpen.
Uh, let's see.
We look across there, the BlueJays, solid bullpen.
I'm not gonna say that they'rebetter than the Brewers, and
then Mariners, I don't like theMariners bullpen.
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I the Brewers have a darn goodbullpen.
So you look across the board,you look who has the most
complete team.
I would say the MilwaukeeBrewers, if they don't have the
most complete team, they'repretty darn close to whoever you
would say is, or whoever youwould say does.
So I I at that rate, I'm justputting it out there.
The Milwaukee Brewers to me, Ithink, are the best team in this
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playoffs.
Now, is that saying that theseother I is that saying that the
Milwaukee Brewers have the besttalent?
No, I'm not saying that theyhave the best talent.
Because you could look and saythe Cubs have a more
star-studded lineup thanMilwaukee Brewers.
Sure.
You can say the Yankees have amore star-studded lineup.
You can say the Dodgers, ofcourse.
You can say the Phillies, yeah.
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But when you put it alltogether, when you say, and
that's where I think why I readthat quote off from William
Contreras.
When you put it all together,who can you say has the better
team than the Milwaukee Brewersall the way around?
I I haven't seen them.
I haven't watched them.
I'm watching these other seriesout there.
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I haven't seen them yet.
This is a really good MilwaukeeBrewers team.
And I think we have to sit hereand just appreciate it.
I see way too much complainingacross social media.
Why is Murph doing this?
Why this?
Why that?
Why don't you just sit there andbe like what I do?
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I take a Miller light and I sitdown and I crack it at the first
pitch.
And I that's my that's my go-to.
I put on my Willie Adamas jerseyand I crack that and I sit on
the couch and I watch the game.
And what happens, happens.
And I get jacked up with it.
I'm one of those guys.
I okay, as you guys just got outof that, I'm a superstitious
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person.
I do those same things everytime.
But I got that, and then I'm oneof those people that I'll yell.
If I'm gonna go to the stadiumand yell, I might as well yell
at my house too.
I'll yell.
Not right now because the kid'ssleeping upstairs, so I gotta be
a little quiet.
So it's like a you get the fistpump going on, and I thought I
threw my shoulder out the othernight.
I was fist pumping so hard.
When William Contreras hit his,it's just like, yeah, you know,
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you just get fired up.
You gotta get fired up.
I I have no, I understand thepeople are like, why do you get
so like crazy about this?
I get that.
I get those people, but I alsoget the people that get super
excited for games, even whenthey're sitting at home.
I'm good at those people too.
I get it.
I'm there.
I almost broke my grandma'sceiling fan when Vito Brown hit
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a three-point.
I think it was against likeNotre Dame or something like
that in March Madness.
Vito Brown hit a three and Ijumped up and I I my grandma
tells me I almost broke herceiling fan.
I don't believe her.
I don't believe her, but shesays I almost did.
So if I if it is broken to thisday, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for that one there.
But I'm one of those fans.
I just get I ride the highs andthe lows.
We talk about it all the time.
We might as well ride the highsand the lows.
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So I have no problem with thosefans out there.
But anyways, anyways, when wecome back, there was a quote.
There was a quote from a Cubsinsider, not an insider, but a
blogger, journalist, whateveryou want to call them.
I want to read it.
I want to read a little bit ofthat article.
Not well, not the whole thing.
Just give you the gist of it.
We're gonna read that becausethis Cubs journalist believes
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that the Brewers see the Cubsand Craig Council as their World
Series, and that's the way thatit is.
So yeah, I want to talk aboutthat when we get back here from
the break.
So we're gonna talk about that.
We're gonna get some badgers,we're gonna get to the end of
the hour here, get to hournumber two on the backside here.
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So I went to the break and wewere talking Brewers, and I saw
this quote when I was at thebreak.
So they asked Jacob Mizorowskibecause he had that flip.
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It was a ground ball back tohim.
And you would have thought, youknow, average day you'd have
flipped it to Andrew Vaughn, andhe ended up running it all the
way to first base.
And you had them, you werethinking, like, why did he run
it all the way?
He could have just flipped it.
Flipped it.
He didn't have to do his fullsprint over there.
And this is what he said.
He said, I was honestly scaredto overthrow Vaughn or do
something stupid.
I yeah, because then he askedhim, he's like, they asked him
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about his celebration afterbecause he got jacked, right?
He was jumping, he was uhflexing the arms, everything
like that.
He said, I had the adrenalinepump and I didn't really know
where my feet went.
I love that.
I absolutely love that.
I know I have a buddy of mine,he's he always says, you know,
uh Jacob Ms.
Rowski has too much emotion.
I can agree, having too muchemotion can get you into trouble
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if you can't control youremotion.
I'm good with this, though.
If he gets if he comes off thatmound and he's fired up, I love
that.
I love the reaction that he had.
It got the crowd fired up, itgot me fired up.
It it made me think and knowJacob Mizorowski's feeling it
tonight.
And you, well, we knew that whenhe came in pumping 104.
Like, just I when he came in, Ilooked at my wife, I was like,
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you're going to know how muchhis adrenaline's pumping by this
first pitch because I bet youit's gonna be about 104, 103 on
the dot, and then he went 104with the next one, 104.
I was like, Yep, he's feelingit.
He's definitely feeling ittonight here.
That was awesome, it wasabsolutely awesome to see there
uh from Jacob Mesrowski.
So I love that quote there.
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But I saw this, it came from thearticle was written by Paul
Sullivan from the ChicagoTribune.
And I I'm not gonna go throughthis whole thing here, but
basically saying he said likecouncil was treated like he
stole the beer money of 40,000fans.
He's been lustly booed there uhbefore both games and during
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trips to the mound and blah blahblah.
He's talking about this.
It just he said I took uhpsychology class at Mizzou, and
my theory is they resent thefact that the Cubs that Chicago
is a world-class city with greatarchitecture and restaurants.
Well, Milwaukee is a place witha statue of the fonts, it's that
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simple.
Wow.
Everyone has their heart brokenat some point, but eventually
you move on.
Milwaukee refuses to move onfrom Council Snub, even though
Murphy has been remarkablyefficient replacement.
I gotta be honest with you, andyou can go read this article
yourself by Paul Sullivan there.
What a dink.
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Dink.
I said dink.
What a dink with an N.
I just I I hear that.
And you know what?
Sure.
Sure.
The the Brewers have, I mean, II don't think the Brewers sit
here and we go.
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I don't think we sit here and wego, well, I'm jealous of the
Chicago Cubs.
You won okay, they won the WorldSeries back in 2016.
Okay, great.
I'm not really jealous of theCubs at all.
I what have they done elsewhere?
What have the Bears done thatthe Green Bay Packers haven't
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done?
What has um the oh well you cansay the bulls, sure, with
Michael Jordan.
You need Michael Jordan to do itfor you.
Outside of that, what has theChicago what Chicago Cubs, the
Brewers as of late, whathappened in game 163?
You had the division all lockedup, the Brewers tied it, they
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beat the Cardinals, tied it.
Well, game 163 in Wrigley, andthe Brewers beat you.
Yet the Brewers have we we welook up to the Cubs, we look up
to the city of Chicago?
No, no.
Actually, we your stadium isidentified as a toilet bowl,
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Chicago Bears.
Uh, outside of that, what else?
I mean, honestly, at this point,what else are we what else is
the city of Milwaukee looking atand saying, wow, we love that?
The problem that I have withCraig Council, it's it's always
going to be.
I watch the videos where Craigsays, nothing like Milwaukee.
I love Milwaukee.
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This is my home, this is myplace, and he took money to go
somewhere else.
I love Pat Murphy.
I'm glad Craig Counsel left.
I'm good with it.
It doesn't mean that I respectCraig Counsel's decision that
this was the place he went formoney.
It was about money.
My biggest problem in life isthat everybody and every athlete
and everywhere thinks that theyneed more money, and that drives
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this whole entire business.
It's the problem I have with theMLB.
Why guys have to make so muchmoney and there is no salary cap
because of the players' unionand such.
That's a whole nother ballgameto get into.
But I I am not gonna sit hereand say I have a respect for
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Craig Counsel for making thedecision to go to the Chicago
Cubs.
No.
Craig Counsel, if you if youmade the decision to go to the
Cubs, you should know full wellthat the the Milwaukee Brewer
fans, the biggest rival of theChicago Cubs, is going to be the
fans are going to be upset withyou for years to come.
I don't know what you expected.
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What did you expect?
You might say, oh, just get overit.
That's fine.
I'm like I sit here and dwell onit.
Not like it makes, it takes upmy entire day.
I just sit here and oh, I wonderwhat Craig's doing in Chicago
right now.
I don't care.
I don't care.
But when he shows up, I'm gonnaboo him just because it's fun,
right?
Manny Machado stepped on JesusAguilar's ankle in the 2018
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playoffs, and to this day Istill dislike and boo Manny
Machado.
All he did was stepped on JesusAguilar's ankle or kicked his
ankle.
That was it.
And I still boo and dislike him.
You think I'm gonna get overCraig's pretty fast?
No.
You went to the Cubs, what didyou expect?
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That's like if you quit your jobtomorrow, you had a you're great
friends with your boss at work,your boss is your best friend in
the world, and you quit.
And you went over and you workedfor the competitor.
Your biggest competitor, yourbiggest rival.
Do you think your friend isgonna be very keen of you?
Probably not.
Probably not.
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So, no.
I I don't care what Cub fightfans think.
It it would be as if let's justsay, oh, who seems like he's
been there for a while.
Like an Ian Hap or uh NicoHorner decided just to go to
Milwaukee.
I'm gonna go to Milwaukee nextyear.
Cub fans would probably not betoo happy with that.
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It's like if Chris Bryant orAnthony Rizzo would have gone to
Milwaukee.
You don't just do that.
That's like that's I don'tunderstand.
I don't get it.
I really don't.
If you're that diehard of aMilwaukee person, like a fan or
a uh player, and you love thecity and you have nothing but
love for the organization andeverything like that, then it
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just comes true that you justdislike the Cubs.
So going and playing for theCubs or playing for the Brewers
and then managing for theBrewers and then leaving for a
couple a couple extra mil to goand manage the Cubs, the
Brewer's offer was still gonnamake him, as far as I knew, the
Brewer's offer was still gonnamake him the highest paid
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manager in baseball.
It just wasn't gonna give himeverything that he had there.
But if you realistically, if youthink about if when I look at
it, if I was a Cubs fan, I wouldbe jealous of the Milwaukee
Brewers.
If I'm a Phillies fan, I'mjealous of the Milwaukee
Brewers.
If I'm a Dodgers fan, I'mjealous of them.
Mets, same thing.
Yankees, everybody.
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You wanna know why?
Because the Milwaukee Brewers doso much with little and have the
best record in baseball with theone of the least payrolls.
And look what the Mets did withthe payroll that they had.
Look what the Phillies are doingwith the payroll they have, the
Cubs, the Yankees, all theseteams with the biggest payrolls
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in baseball.
How's that working out for you?
So you know what this soundslike, Mr.
Paul Sullivan from the ChicagoTribune?
You know what this sounds like?
A guy who's watching his teamget absolutely dominated by the
Milwaukee Brewers in game oneand two, write in an article
sobbing while writing it,crying, because he is jealous of
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the Milwaukee Brewers and has tofind a reason to complain.
What did you did?
You complain about the roofbeing open too in game one?
Did you complain about that too?
Because it's controlled by theMLB, not the Milwaukee Brewers.
They weren't doing it to get anedge, they weren't doing it for
any of that.
It's controlled by the MLB.
They can't just open the roof.
Everything that happens with theroof when it comes to playoff
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time is dictated by the MLB.
So you want to yell at somebody,yell at them.
If they wanted to give the edgeto the Brewers, that's because
nobody likes Chicago.
There you go.
That's what I gotta say to that,Mr.
Paul Sullivan at the ChicagoTribune.
That article, if you guys wantto read it, you can go through
the whole thing.
I just read bits and pieces hereoff to you guys, and I'm I'm at
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whatever.
Whatever.
Brewer fans, dislike for CraigCouncil.
You'll never understand itbecause you don't, you don't,
you don't, you're not there.
You're not watching the videosfrom the past where Craig's
telling you all this stuff abouthis love for the city and
everything like that.
And then you have to watch himgo put a Cubs uniform on or Cubs
shirt on.
That makes you feel good abouthim.
And he went to your rival rightafter leaving you.
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That made you feel good abouthim.
It's not that Brewer fans don'tlove Pat Murphy because at the
end of the day, we'd love ratherhave Pat Murphy.
The way that it's gone.
It's the way that it ended withCraig and he walked out the
door.
That's what irritates him.
Plus, at this point, it's just,I mean, it's just second nature.
It's just second nature.
Anything that happens with theCubs, we dislike it.
That's just where I'm at.
I just dislike it.
If it happens with the Cubs, Idislike it.
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I'll boot anybody from the Cubs.
I don't care if it's CraigCouncil and Nico Horner, I'll
boo them all.
I don't like Anthony Rizzle, andI don't like Chris Bryant
because of it there.
So yeah, I'm I'm that's whereI'm kind of at with the whole
thing right now.
So if you guys want to readthat, make sure you check it out
from Paul Sullivan there.
So I want to jump over and Iwant to look at the Badgers this
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last weekend here.
They had the game againstMichigan.
They lost to 24-10.
And the Badgers, I gotta say,they had the best opening drive
of the entire season.
Or actually, I you know what?
I'm gonna go crazy here.
They had the best opening driveof the entire Luke Fickle era in
that game against Michigan.
I don't know if it's becausethey blitzed him and Michigan
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didn't know what was going on.
They threw Hunter Simmons outthere and it just threw him for
a loop.
I don't know what it was.
But the Wisconsin Badgers hadeverything cooking on that
opening drive.
And you know what irritated methe most?
So you go down the field, youwalk down the field in the
opening drive, you go, I believeit was 75, 12 plays, 75 yards,
walk down the field, openingdrive, six minutes, 50 seconds,
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and score.
And then Michigan came back,they scored a touchdown
themselves.
But then on the very next drive,Danny O'Neill comes into the
game.
And I'm thinking to myself, whyis Danny O'Neill in the game?
You just orchestrated your bestdrive of your entire coaching
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career in Madison.
In my opinion.
I'm pretty sure it was.
And you decide to pull the guyout that orchestrated that drive
and throw in the quarterbackthat you had before.
Why?
Why mess with it right then?
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Now, do I think it was gonnamake a big, like this big old
difference in the world?
Maybe not, I don't know.
But everything was working offthat opening drive.
Why not stick with it?
We watched Hunter Simmons makesome good throws throughout the
day, and I thought honestly, himbeing out there threw this
Michigan defense for a loop tostart it.
They they were conf notconfused, but it was a different
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kind of look.
The first 12 plays, scriptedplays, were fantastic.
They had Michigan on their toes,on their heels, should I say.
So I kind of loved what I sawfrom the Badgers there to start
that game.
And then they brought in DannyO'Neill, and I was like, why?
I would get if Hunter Simmonswas struggling.
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He wasn't struggling right offthe bat.
And then from there, it just, Imean, they scored that opening
drive touchdown, and then fromthere it just went downhill.
And there was definitely, Imean, there was the missed pass
interference call that they hadon that deep shot he took down
the sideline.
There was that issue there.
There's a couple differentissues that I had with this
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game.
One of the biggest ones that Ihad, and this is where a lot of
Badger fans were sitting comingoff of this game, was the the
lack of, I don't want to say thelack of, but he didn't Luke
Fickle didn't use his timeoutsin the second half.
And the question was, why?
Why didn't he use his timeoutsin the second half?
You can't take them home withyou.
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And they kind of made it seemthat if he would have got they
would have got the stop on thirddown late in the game there, he
would have used them as it wasrunning down the two-minute
warning, but he didn't.
My question is, at the end ofthe day, I don't know if because
I know a lot of fans are upsetabout this one.
I don't know that even if youuse the timeouts, you get the
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ball back, whatever.
I don't know if it's going toactually like you're gonna
you're not I don't know ifyou're gonna win this game.
We've seen crazy things happenin college football, so I'm not
saying it was impossible.
But at least make it seem likeyou thought so.
At least practice like you thinkyou have a shot.
I don't understand why he's donethis times before where he he
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saves these timeouts, middleTennessee.
I believe he didn't use anytimeouts in the first half or
something like that.
Why?
Why if you got him, use them.
There's something you don'tlike, you don't like when you
see it, you don't like a playcall, whatever, call timeout,
reset it.
Whatever it is, I I just don'tunderstand why we're even
talking about because I don't Idon't even care if it was a did
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he have a brain fart, forgotwhat it what time, you know, the
time, whatever.
I I don't care.
At the end of the day, thisbadger team, it just seems
dysfunctional.
And it starts with him becauseit just seems dysfunctional,
like he's not even mentally inthe game.
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How are you supposed to rallythe troops and get players into
the game when you're notmentally into the game?
That's my biggest question.
I mean, it yeah, you just hadover two minutes and you
probably weren't gonna win thatgame, but act like you're the
head coach of this footballteam.
And that's where I think mybiggest problem on the day was
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in a game where, and this iswhere I had the question
earlier.
Somebody asked me.
They said, are we really at thepoint of this bat or of being
badger fans?
Are we really at the point wherenow we're looking at this and
saying this was a good lossbecause they didn't get blown
out?
Are we at that point?
Yes, yes, we are.
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That's where we're at.
I mean, honestly, that's wherewe're at.
A 24-10 loss at Ann Arbor and inMichigan, and you held close
there in the first half, 10 to7, and then it kind of went
south on you.
That's it looked better.
There was there were moments,and that's where it's this game.
There were things you look backat and you say, I kind of like
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that.
There was a few plays by thedefensive line where they got to
Bryce Underwood, they kind ofrattled him in the backfield
there.
They slowed the outside the rungame, that first drive that
Michigan had, they busted offthat huge one there.
I believe it was Haynes that hadthe big one for 43 yards.
They busted off that big one.
They gave him 175 on the game.
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But that a lot of that was onthat first drive.
That first driveway drive therefor him.
Otherwise, the run defense, itsettled into this one.
And the rest of the game lookedpretty good.
Outside of that first run, youlook at it's like a what, 130,
125, something like that.
I mean, I'm not exact maththere, but the run defense
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looked good.
I mean, again, the run defensecame in in this game looking
good.
They looked good after thatfirst drive.
And then, like I said, I mean,the offense, the Hunter Simmons
had moments where he lookedokay.
The offensive line looked betterwith Heinzen in there in the uh
in the center spot instead ofthey moved Kadonko over, they
brought uh Heinzen in, and heended up playing in the in the
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center spot, Davis Heinz inthere.
So he made his first careerstart there in the center, and
switching positions there.
The offensive line continues tomove, but maybe, just maybe
after watching this game, theyfound a combo that looks like it
might work.
There's a lot you can take awayfrom this and say, Well, I like
that.
I like the look of that.
And there's a lot of bad, whichI think the worst part of the
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entire thing was looking at thisteam and saying, Yeah, this is
where we're at.
We're at the point where a 24 to10 loss looks good because you
only lost 24 to 10 at Michigan.
So, I mean, you lost by 14 atthis point.
You got Iowa coming up here.
It's homecoming.
You got Iowa, six o'clock game.
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This Iowa game.
What does it feel like?
You know what it's it's almostlike this Iowa game to me.
Is the it's the one chance forthis badger team to salvage
something of this season.
That's what I gotta say to it.
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This Iowa game feels like thisis the one chance for this
badger team to salvage somethingyet.
Because I look at this game.
After this, they play OhioState, they play Oregon, they
have Indiana left, they haveIllinois, they have Washington,
who's a decent team, they haveMinnesota.
If you lose to Iowa, theseason's basically kiosh.
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Because you have Ohio State,Oregon, Washington, Indiana,
Illinois, Minnesota.
Doesn't even matter if you pullup one of them upsets, you still
end up with five wins.
This Iowa game at home againstan Iowa team who you don't know
who's gonna be starting atquarterback.
They've had their struggles.
The defense is still good, butthey're still, I mean, Iowa.
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Iowa is what Iowa has been.
This is a game where Wisconsin,if they come into this one fired
up, the guys come to play, maybethey can pull this one off, but
it feels like this game comingup is their one chance to
salvage something of thisseason, in my opinion.
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So that's kind of where I'mlooking with this one.
I was asked the question (49:06):
did the close loss to Michigan move
the needle into feeling betterabout this team and feeling
better about fickle?
No.
No, not at all.
It moved the needle for theteam.
I think there's a lot ofpotential.
I as I've said before, I thinkthere's a ton of potential on
this team.
Did it move the needle forfickle?
No.
I don't count a 14-point loss toMichigan as a move the needle
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kind of move.
Just because you lost a closegame to a ranked team, he's done
that before.
The close loss to Oregon, theclose loss to Penn State.
He's had easy, he hasn't beat aranked team.
He's had close losses before.
It doesn't make me feel better.
So, yeah, that's kind of whereI'm at with this Badger team.
So they got Iowa coming up, sixo'clock game coming up, FS1 on
Saturday there.
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So it should be some good stuffthere.
That'll be if the Brewers dohave to go to a game five, it'll
be after the Brewer game.
After the Brewers win thatseries against the Cubs, you can
watch the Badgers take on Iowathere.
So we're gonna come back here.
We're gonna wrap up hour numberone, we're gonna look ahead to
our number two.
We got tons of stuff to get to.
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This is one that came in.
If the Brewers don't make theWorld Series, is the season a
bust?
And I got this question lastweek there.
And my mistake, I didn't get toanswer it in that.
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I said last week I'd answer itin the next segment.
I completely spaced.
I get all out of out of sortssometimes.
No.
No.
Because, like we've said, andeverybody knows, this team is
playing with house money.
If they go game seven of theNLCS against the Dodgers or the
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Phillies, if the Phillies makeit out of the series, if they go
game seven of that and they endup losing on a Shoey Otani
walk-off home run or something.
Something crazy.
I know, knock on what it doesn'thappen.
I'm not going to call thisseason a bust.
I want to say they ran into agood team and lost.
It's the way that it ends.
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If you go seven games againstthe Dodgers, the heartbreak's
gonna be for real again.
Like 100%, you know, because wewatched it once before.
So the heartbreak's gonna be forreal.
But I'm not gonna sit here andsay, oh, well, that that
season's a bust because theylost game seven of the NLCS.
No.
No.
Now is it gonna suck?
Yeah, 100%.
Am I gonna be upset with it?
You're dang right I'm gonna be.
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Am I going to call it a bustthough?
No.
Now they gotta win the serieswith the Cubs first.
That's 100%.
And I they should.
Should keyword there should.
But outside of that, I mean, yougo NLCS game time.
If you go get swept in the NLCS,okay.
Now, yeah, it's a bust.
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Now it's like it's oh yeah, yougot there again, but you weren't
able to get over the hump.
So then all those people aregonna come out of the woodworks
and say, you should have beenable to win it.
Why couldn't you do it?
Blah, blah, blah.
You got those people.
So it's not a bust in my book ifyou are able to push a game set
or push it in the NLCS, get pastthe NLDS here, push in the NLCS,
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or you get to the World Seriesand you lose the World Series.
Okay, now it's not a bust if youmake it to the World Series to
lose it.
It's just it sucks.
It really does getting to theWorld Series there and losing
it.
So I can, yes, that's where I'dbe at that one.
Better acquisition, Priester ofBond.
I think I answered that one lastweek.
I'm pretty darn sure I answeredthat one last week there.
I would say probably probablyQuinn Priester.
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I'd say probably Quinn Priester,just because the uh what he's
given to this pitching staffthis season here.
So I would probably say QuinnPriester there.
I had a random one.
Is that is there anything lazierthan not putting a toilet paper
roll back on the roller and justsetting it on top of the roller?
No, not really.
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I don't know.
I my biggest thing is well, notmy biggest thing, but I the only
thing that I do is I put it onbackwards, according to my wife.
So I don't put it on the right.
I did not know you could put iton backwards.
I put it on backwards, I guess.
So that's my biggest problem, Iguess, when it comes to that.
So yeah, that's where I'd kindof be with that.
But yeah, so we those are someof the questions I had that came
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And welcome into WisconsinSports on the Go with Trade.
I'm your host, Trage, as we comeback here on this October 8th
edition of the show here.
I hope you guys are enjoyingyour Wednesday so far.
I hope you guys enjoyed yourweekend.
It was a great weekend, an evenbetter weekend because the
Brewers, the way that thisseries has started against the
Cubs, it has been fantastic.
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So we're going to get into thebrewers today.
I can't wait.
I my wife asked me, she's like,you know, what's the hardest
part about preparing for theshow?
Because as you guys know, thisisn't like this is my day job
right here.
This is, I mean, just uh aWednesday thing right now.
Until we talk, the radio isgoing to talk about doing more,
but as of right now, it's a it'sa Wednesday thing.
So I have a day job on top ofthis.
So it's like, as what's thehardest part?
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Getting the material together.
Like, what is the hardest partabout getting this show?
And I was like, it's the intro.
I said, it's always the intro.
What do you start out with rightoff the bat, talking about how
do you get into it?
How do you get with the flow?
Because after you get with theflow of things, it's like a
conversation.
I mean, you just you just kindof it just flows off your
tongue.
But it's always the beginning.
And I today I sat there and I'mlike, how am I going to get this
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show ready?
How am I going to get into itright off the bat?
And I was, I was easy.
The brewers.
It was 100% the brewers.
What we saw over the weekendthere, the absolute domination.
And not to mention my favoritepart, and this is the part that
made me chuckle.
Because we said to ourselves,okay, the Brewers know the Cubs,
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the Cubs know the Brewers.
They're going into the series.
The managers know each other.
The players know each other bynow.
They've seen each other multipletimes.
What's going to be the edge?
What's going to be thedifference?
And I know Cub fans don't.
There's some that don't want toblame Craig.
They're like, oh well, well, youknow, the lineup's been bad and
they haven't been hitting andthis and that.
And it's like, okay, okay, I getthat.
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But Pat Murphy outmanaged CraigCouncil over the weekend, and it
was in the Monday night game.
We were everybody was confusedbecause the big thing was, why
are the Brewers starting AaronAshby and not Quinn Priester?
We we were all confused.
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We sat there and it was it wasalmost, you know, when when it
all was happening, or well, whenthe playoff was getting set up,
when the when the schedule wasset up and everything like that,
we said to ourselves, okay,there is Freddie Perl's gonna
start game one.
After that, game two, youexpected Quinn to Priest.
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Pretty simple.
I mean it was prettystraightforward.
Then it was, well, we don't knowwho's starting game two.
And everybody was I mean,everybody, myself, and we sat
there, uh, what do you what doyou mean?
Quinn Priester seems like theobvious answer.
It would have been BrandonWoodruff, but Brandon Woodruff
isn't ready.
So what's gonna happen here?
Well, you could go off of, and Idid see a stat, that the Cubs
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are one of the better teams inbaseball at hitting the cutter,
and they're very good at hittingthe sinker.
So that's something that QuinnPriester they hit sinkers and
cutters hard.
That's something Quinn Priesterloves to roll with.
Maybe that was part of thedecision to keep him out of game
two.
But I, you know, when you reallylooked at it, he started Aaron
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Ashby, which was a lefty, whichthen in turn Michael Bush
doesn't hit lefties very well.
Pat Murphy played played thegame.
That's the funniest part.
That that was the part that mademe change and just made me sit
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back and go, Pat Murphy justoutmanaged Craig Council before
the game moved.
That I thought.
It wasn't a oh well.
It was a he made Craig Counseltake out one of his better
hitters, and one of the one ofthe actual like if you there was
a list before the postseasoneven started.
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What Michael Bush was one of heis one of the better hitters in
the postseason in this race.
2025 regular season, he was a261 hitter, 34 home runs and 90
uh RBIs there.
You made Craig Counsel take oneof his better hitters out of
lineup and put in Justin Turner.
Now, I'm not saying that JustinTurner is just some like just
some random guy.
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He's been there.
He's I mean, had some of themost postseason experience out
of all the guys who were in thepostseason this year.
I mean, you talk about multipleyears with the Dodgers out
there, and the Brewers have seenhim many times.
So this is a guy who's beenthere, done that.
Not quite the hitter thatMichael Bush has been.
So the ability of Pat Murphy tosay, Oh, I like, I like Aaron
Ashby's ability to go out there.
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Now, did it work?
No.
He gave up three rounds.
Suzuki took him deep.
Okay.
And you saw all across socialmedia everybody freaking out
about that.
They're like, oh wow, you know,why?
Why?
This is what happens when youwhen you start a guy like Aaron
Ashby.
Why would you start a guy likeAaron Ashby?
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This was bound to happen.
It just came back to bite you inthe butt.
It did.
I mean, it in all in allfairness, it did.
It doesn't mean that it was aterrible decision or not a smart
move by Pat Murphy.
It doesn't mean that at all.
You're going to the way that theway that the Brewers have
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operated this season, if youlook at the opening day roster
versus what you got now, evenwhat you were halfway through
the year, they didn't get thisfar by doing things the right
way.
Kosher made sense.
None of it made sense.
And you know what any lineups Ilooked at, we all looked at,
where we said, what is he doing?
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What's he throwing out theretonight?
What is this?
Four hole.
How many times did you look at alineup like that?
But they won the game.
They found a way to win it.
That's exactly what we saw here.
Sure, Aaron Ashby gave up threeruns.
Sure.
It was a bullpen game.
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And it worked out, didn't it?
We sit here and we and I I'm Iam I am subject to this too and
guilty of this.
Questioning Pat Murphy and hisdecisions and what he does.
I'm done with it.
I I have questioned this guy.
I've said to myself, why isIsaac Collins not out there?
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And I love that quote from IsaacCollins when they said about
Jackson Churio, and IsaacCollins said point blank, he's
like, This this guy isinstrumental to us.
He said, I hope he playstonight.
That he's that's what's best forthe team.
But if if he can't go, I will domy best to step up in that
spotlight.
Not word for word or anyprobably anywhere near the
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quote, but you get the gist.
You can go back, look at thequote.
It was it's close, it's in theballpark, right?
In the ballpark.
But Isaac Collins, when he saidthat, um, I said to myself, man,
that speaks volumes for whatthis team is.
And then I read WilliamContreras's trip player tribute.
And if you haven't read that, Iwanted to run through a wall
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when I read that.
I I what I read that and I ranupstairs and I was, I told my
wife, I'm like, I gotta getmyself a William Contreras
jersey because I, you know, I'vegone through the phases with
William Contreras.
I have.
I've gone through the phaseswhere I was like, I don't know
if he's trying hard anymore,this and that.
And at one point this year, Iwas I was thinking to myself,
just put him on the IL, bringCuero up, just let this guy
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walk.
Like, he's just he's not trying,he's hurt, everything like that.
I listened to him, and then Ilistened to him after the game
there uh in that pressconference.
There is there's nothing morethat I want than William
Contreras to go up there andsucceed at this point and just
light the world up.
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He is they they asked him inthat press conference, they
said, you know, who are youcalling?
Because after he hit that homerun in game two, he held up the
phone to and that that wasawesome.
That was awesome.
Pat Murphy talked about it.
He said, you know, aboutadmiring home runs.
He's like, well, you know, I'mnot gonna tell guys they don't
they shouldn't.
Like, I think there's anexcessive amount, this and that.
And when he he watched thatthing go and he like ring ring
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answered the phone and then hungit up, and they asked him, they
said, Who are you calling?
And he said, 'Brewer fans.' AndI I was yes, I William
Contreras, this whole thing, andlistening to Andrew Vaughn,
listening to McGill and themgive praise to Aaron Ashby.
This team won because they're ateam.
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To round it all out to where Iwas going.
This team won this seasonbecause this is how they did it.
It wasn't right.
It didn't seem like it was gonnago right.
They're like Isaac Collins said,this team's playing with house
money.
They're not supposed to be here,they weren't supposed to win
this many games.
There was they had no they haveno business doing what they're
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doing.
But how did they get there?
That's what the the biggestthing that I think we we love to
hate is that the brewers love todo things in unorthodox.
They don't do things the waythat we've envisioned them,
right?
You think to yourself, oh, theDodgers.
It's pretty simple.
You're gonna roll out Yamamoto,you're gonna roll out Glasnow,
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you're gonna roll out Kershaw,whoever it is.
You have your starters, boom,boom, boom.
Phillies have their starters,boom, boom, boom.
The Brewers, they've been thrownfor a loop a couple different
times because you thought JacobMizerelski was gonna be a guy,
and then he struggled.
He pitched great in game two,we'll get to that.
But you have a guy like JacobMs.
He wasn't gonna be able to fitthe fold as a starter, you
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didn't think.
Brandon Woodruff came back, hewas fantastic.
He gets hurt, he can't go inthis series.
So then you have to think toyourself, well, what now?
How do I throw a monkey wrenchinto this?
Because I feel like, I feellike, and that's where Pat
Murphy was, I feel like we havethis thing.
We know what we have to do.
We have a deep bullpen, which isrested, because you look at what
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game one entailed, they wereblowing them out.
They didn't have to really workthrough the bullpen in game one.
So you look at it and you saidto yourself, I have this rested
bullpen, what do I do with it?
Okay, I can pitch a bullpen gamein game two, and I trust my
guys, and this was the thingtoo.
I trust my guys, but at the foreend of that of that trust, I
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have Jacob Mazarowski.
I have Robert Casser.
I have guys who can extend thisthing as starters forward, and I
can save Quinn Priester.
One of the better pitchers inbaseball this season has been
Quinn Priester, one of thebetter trade accusations that
word butchered it last week.
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I'm gonna butcher it again thisweek.
One of the better trade deadlineadds before even the trade
deadline, Quinn Priester to theBrewers.
You get to have him for gamethree of the series in Chicago
with a chance to go to the NLCS.
I it's setting up just likethat.
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And then you can have Quintanago in game four, and then you
would have Freddie Peralta forgame five, if needed, back in
Milwaukee.
And if you don't need him, ifGwyn Priester can win this game,
you have Freddie Peralta forgame one in the NLCS.
Even possibly if game four youpitch Quintana, they win, you
still have Freddie Peralta forgame one in the NLCS.
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So you have now opened thisavenue where you have a lot of
pitching options and a lot ofability to get yourself out of
places.
The Cubs, and this is whereCraig Council outmanaged himself
once again, and this is whereI'm praising Pat Murphy and
saying that Craig Council has,in fact, struggled Matthew Boyd
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game one and Managa game two.
It shouldn't have lined up likethat if you're Craig.
But this is where the Brewers,being the way that they are,
this is where they've takenadvantage of it.
And that's where I'm getting atwith this whole thing.
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The Brewers, the the decision togo with Aaron Ashby in game two
was Brewer baseball.
Didn't have to make sense.
It made sense to Pat Murphy, andit got Craig Counsel to tip his
hand by pull putting JustinTurner in there right off the
bat.
It brought in the flexibilityfor the Brewers to okay, now
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Nick Mears, they did burn NickMears for a third of an inning,
but then they got the lead.
You saw Jacob Mizarowski comein, and they just ran with it.
Maybe that wasn't playing thewhole time.
You never know.
What I'm saying is, man oh man,what a start to the series.
What a start to this for theMilwaukee Brewers, this playoff
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run.
And I I listen, you know, youlisten to that, or not listen,
but you read the player tribute,and I think I was listening to a
guy read it.
Uh, he's from ESPN, Milwaukee.
I can't remember his name offthe top of my head, but he was
reading it, and you listen towhat William Contreras said, and
he said, you know, basically,there is if there's a better
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team out there, he hasn't seenone yet.
I I truly believe that.
After watching game one and twoof this series, I truly believe
that.
And I'm going to explain why.
I'm going to explain why when Icome back from the break here.
I'm going to explain why Ibelieve there truly is no team
that I have seen right now inthis playoffs that is better
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than the Milwaukee Brewers.
I'll explain it when I come backfrom the break here.
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So coming back from the breakhere, I had I said right away, I
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said we're gonna go into the myopinion of why I believe the
Brewers are still the best teamin the baseball right now.
But I wanted to read something.
So this came from WilliamContreras, and I kind of
mentioned it there off the topof the show, but I didn't have
the full quote here.
But this is what I had mentionedoff the top of the show here.
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This was from the WilliamContreras player tribune that he
did and that that they wrote forhim.
And this is what he said.
So he said, I still have alittle regret, regret years
later, for being rude to myagent about the trade.
Milwaukee?
Wow, what a wrong way to react.
Now I hope I spend my wholecareer here and I hope to be on
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the first World Series winner inBrewer's history.
It'll happen, I bet.
It's like Bob always said, noone better than you.
Well, actually, Bob, probablysome are better than me.
I'm not the best.
None of our group is.
But if you're telling me anotherteam is the best, man, I swear I
haven't seen them.
No one better than Milwaukeeright now.
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No one better than us.
I love that quote.
I I heard that.
I like I said, I was listeningto uh the guy down there from
ESB and Milwaukee.
I heard that.
I wanted to run through a wall,I tell you.
That that quote right there,that got me jacked up for Brewer
Baseball on Saturday.
And then I was just all in.
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I mean, I was already all in,don't get me wrong, but I was
all in on some brewer baseball.
So that was awesome.
That was awesome there uh fromWilliam Contreras.
So I went to the break and Isaid to myself, I said to you
guys, well, I said to myself, Isaid to you guys, the Brewers
were the best team in theplayoffs.
And I wanted, I'm gonna explainwhy.
Why I believe the Brewers arethe best team in the playoffs.
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I'd love to hear your guys'thoughts on the Brewers, my next
comments, anything like that.
I believe the Brewers are thebest team in the playoffs, and
this is why.
When I watch the rest of theseseries, when I watch the
Phillies, when I watch theDodgers, when I watch the
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Yankees, some of these otherteams, even a team like you
could, I don't know if you'd saythe Blue Jays, because Blue Jays
can hit.
Just looking across the scope ofthe playoffs right now.
I say to myself, which teamshave multiple ways to beat you?
Like you look at the Yankees.
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I don't believe the Yankees canbeat you.
The Yankees can't beat you.
Okay, I'm not even gonna say Idon't believe they can.
The Yankees can't beat youwithout the long ball.
They can't.
I'm watching it, I'm seeing it.
We're watching it in this seriesagainst the Blue Jays.
How do they come back?
Long ball.
How did they lose?
How do they get out of thisseries to begin with?
They couldn't hit it.
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It's real simple when it comesto the Yankees.
Even a team like the Phillies,they haven't been able to
connect on the long ball.
Why are they losing 2-0 in aseries right now to the Dodgers?
They can't connect on a longball.
Kyle Schwarmer becomesirrelevant when the long ball
isn't there.
The Brewers have this crazyability where we watched it over
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two games.
No, I know game three ishappening as I'm talking right
now, so I can't vouch for what'shappening right now in the
Brewers game.
But games one and two.
Game one, we saw the Brewers goeight singles, three doubles,
score nine runs.
It went crazy fast there on theCubs.
Game two, we saw him gothree-run home run by Andrew
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Vaughn, solo shot by WilliamContreras, and a three-run shot
by Jackson Churio to dead centerthere.
Set up by guys getting on base.
You know, we watched it beforeVaughn.
You had Contreras dump a singlewith two outs.
You had Yelich dump a singlewith two outs, and then Vaughn
comes up to hits the home run.
Contreras, bomb.
And then Churio, I think Durbingot hit by a pitch, and then
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Ortiz singled the center.
And that brought up Churio.
Ortiz playing an inch.
Ortiz is batting really well inthe nine-hole right now.
I have a bet going on with myuncle.
He told me that Joey Ortiz isgoing to hit 300 or above here
in this in this series.
I said there ain't no way.
Right now he's batting above 300going into game three.
So I might lose five bucks, butI'll be okay if they sweep the
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series because Joey Ortiz wentlike he said he's gonna go three
for four in the series sweep.
So if he's right on that one,here we'll see if we'll see if
he's listening to this part.
I'll give him an extra five ifhe's right that Joey Ortiz goes
three for four.
I'll give him ten bucks in totalthere.
Uh going off this series.
But the Brewers, they to me arethe best team because they do
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they can win games in multipleways.
Offensively, they get on base,they have guys who can steal
bases, they put the ball inplay, they make you make they
make you make mistakes, theymake you have to earn it out
there.
As we saw in game one, Sal putit in play.
You knew guys were busting itaround.
Nico Horner made the mistakeover there at second base.
You have those kinds of thingsthat you know, everybody says,
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Wow, just the Brewers doingthis, you know, silly stuff, and
you can't win baseball gameslike that.
You gotta hit the long ball.
I I really think why did theysay that?
They just ticked them off.
Like going into game uh two ofthat series, and they just
started launching the ball.
I I said to myself, I said, theyjust ticked him off.
That's all they did.
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After that, Andrew Vaughn homerun.
I was like, Well, they justproved they can hit the long
ball too.
Watch this.
Boom, William Contreras.
It was that was that was crazy.
That was crazy.
That was a crazy uh uh sequenceof events there uh in that game
one or game two there to startall that one because you had
Suzuki go deep in the first topof the first, bottom of the
first.
Brewers are like, it's I gotnervous.
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I don't know if I got nervous,nervous, but I said, oh boy,
here we go.
Here we go.
Like it's gonna be a game now.
And then we watched as Brewersgot a guy on two outs, Brewers
got a guy on, another guy on,and Andrew Vaughn launched that
one, and it was like, All right,all right, there we go.
We're back, we're nodded, andthen from there, boom,
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Mizerowski came in, wasfantastic, and it all just went
there.
The Brewers have multiple waysto beat you on offense, and then
I look at the pitching side ofit.
You have a guy like FreddiePeralta, who has been, if it
wasn't for guys like Paul Skeensof the world, would be a very
good chance he'd have a CyYoung.
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But you got to deal with PaulSkeens, and Freddie's been
fantastic.
So Freddie, he's gonna havedefinitely have some votes there
for uh Cy Young.
He won't get it, it's gonna bePaul Skeens, but he's definitely
gonna have some votes.
So you got you got that, you gotthe starting pitching aspect
where you have a guy likeFreddie backed up by a guy like
Quinn Priester, who's beennothing but fantastic since
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coming to Milwaukee.
And then you have Jose Quintanato back that thing up.
You have guys like Ms.
Rowski out in the bullpen, youhave Robert Gasser out there,
Logan Henderson's supposed to beon the men.
Maybe we see him as they getfurther into the playoffs.
We'll see on that one.
Brandon Woodruff, hopefully,right?
Knock on wood.
We see him back and healthierpretty darn soon.
You got this pitching staff,though it seems deep.
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The thing with it is they have alot of length in their bullpen.
And when I say length, I'mlooking at the guys that they
have out there, and I think thatis a strong suit of this team,
is the the ability that theyhave where they can go to an
Aaron Ashby for multipleinnings.
His longest outing was, Ibelieve, like three and a third.
You could go to an Aaron Ashbyfor three and a third, you could
go to a DL Hall for threeinnings, and you could feel
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comfortable.
Grant Anderson could go acouple.
I don't know if you feel realcomfortable.
He's been good this year.
Tobias Myers when he's on theroster.
I don't know if he's not even onthe roster, but when he's on the
roster there.
You have a Tobias Myers that cango for you.
Chad Patrick's been fantasticfor uh for the Brewers this
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season, and he was fantastic inthat game, too, there.
So you have him that you cantalk about there.
You have a lot of options outthere in the bullpen, and that's
not even getting to thehigh-leverage guys.
When you look over at the highleverage guys and you say to
yourself, oh, now we have guyslike Jared Canning who's been
good.
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You have Nick Mears who's beengood.
Aaron Ashby can actually beroped into that grouping if you
wanted to rope him into there.
And then you talk about a guylike Abnier Uribe and Jared, or
not Jared County.
We said Jared Canning twicethere.
Um Trevor McGill in thatgrouping there.
You have your high-leverageguys.
The Brewers have depth.
And depth that they can go, thatyou can trust that you can have
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a bullpen game with a lot ofarms and a lot of talent.
That's where I thought CraigCouncil, when he was saying, Oh,
I'm gonna go bullpen, he doesn'thave that depth in that bullpen
like the Milwaukee Brewers do.
And that I don't think you lookacross the board, the Phillies
would probably have one of thebetter bullpens.
And the Phillies are on the fasttrack out.
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The Dodgers' weak point is theirbullpen.
The Yankees don't have a greatbullpen if you can get to a guy
like Devin Williams.
And then, I mean, Bednar, theBrewers have hit Bednar in the
past, so I'm gonna say theYankees aren't a better bullpen.
Uh, let's see.
We look across there, the BlueJays, solid bullpen.
I'm not gonna say that they'rebetter than the Brewers, and
then Mariners, I don't like theMariners bullpen.
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I the Brewers have a darn goodbullpen.
So you look across the board,you look who has the most
complete team.
I would say the MilwaukeeBrewers, if they don't have the
most complete team, they'repretty darn close to whoever you
would say is, or whoever youwould say does.
So I I at that rate, I'm justputting it out there.
The Milwaukee Brewers to me, Ithink, are the best team in this
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playoffs.
Now, is that saying that theseother I is that saying that the
Milwaukee Brewers have the besttalent?
No, I'm not saying that theyhave the best talent.
Because you could look and saythe Cubs have a more
star-studded lineup thanMilwaukee Brewers.
Sure.
You can say the Yankees have amore star-studded lineup.
You can say the Dodgers, ofcourse.
You can say the Phillies, yeah.
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But when you put it alltogether, when you say, and
that's where I think why I readthat quote off from William
Contreras.
When you put it all together,who can you say has the better
team than the Milwaukee Brewersall the way around?
I I haven't seen them.
I haven't watched them.
I'm watching these other seriesout there.
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I haven't seen them yet.
This is a really good MilwaukeeBrewers team.
And I think we have to sit hereand just appreciate it.
I see way too much complainingacross social media.
Why is Murph doing this?
Why this?
Why that?
Why don't you just sit there andbe like what I do?
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I take a Miller light and I sitdown and I crack it at the first
pitch.
And I that's my that's my go-to.
I put on my Willie Adamas jerseyand I crack that and I sit on
the couch and I watch the game.
And what happens, happens.
And I get jacked up with it.
I'm one of those guys.
I okay, as you guys just got outof that, I'm a superstitious
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person.
I do those same things everytime.
But I got that, and then I'm oneof those people that I'll yell.
If I'm gonna go to the stadiumand yell, I might as well yell
at my house too.
I'll yell.
Not right now because the kid'ssleeping upstairs, so I gotta be
a little quiet.
So it's like a you get the fistpump going on, and I thought I
threw my shoulder out the othernight.
I was fist pumping so hard.
When William Contreras hit his,it's just like, yeah, you know,
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you just get fired up.
You gotta get fired up.
I I have no, I understand thepeople are like, why do you get
so like crazy about this?
I get that.
I get those people, but I alsoget the people that get super
excited for games, even whenthey're sitting at home.
I'm good at those people too.
I get it.
I'm there.
I almost broke my grandma'sceiling fan when Vito Brown hit
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a three-point.
I think it was against likeNotre Dame or something like
that in March Madness.
Vito Brown hit a three and Ijumped up and I I my grandma
tells me I almost broke herceiling fan.
I don't believe her.
I don't believe her, but shesays I almost did.
So if I if it is broken to thisday, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry for that one there.
But I'm one of those fans.
I just get I ride the highs andthe lows.
We talk about it all the time.
We might as well ride the highsand the lows.
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So I have no problem with thosefans out there.
But anyways, anyways, when wecome back, there was a quote.
There was a quote from a Cubsinsider, not an insider, but a
blogger, journalist, whateveryou want to call them.
I want to read it.
I want to read a little bit ofthat article.
Not well, not the whole thing.
Just give you the gist of it.
We're gonna read that becausethis Cubs journalist believes
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that the Brewers see the Cubsand Craig Council as their World
Series, and that's the way thatit is.
So yeah, I want to talk aboutthat when we get back here from
the break.
So we're gonna talk about that.
We're gonna get some badgers,we're gonna get to the end of
the hour here, get to hournumber two on the backside here.
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So I went to the break and wewere talking Brewers, and I saw
this quote when I was at thebreak.
So they asked Jacob Mizorowskibecause he had that flip.
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It was a ground ball back tohim.
And you would have thought, youknow, average day you'd have
flipped it to Andrew Vaughn, andhe ended up running it all the
way to first base.
And you had them, you werethinking, like, why did he run
it all the way?
He could have just flipped it.
Flipped it.
He didn't have to do his fullsprint over there.
And this is what he said.
He said, I was honestly scaredto overthrow Vaughn or do
something stupid.
I yeah, because then he askedhim, he's like, they asked him
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about his celebration afterbecause he got jacked, right?
He was jumping, he was uhflexing the arms, everything
like that.
He said, I had the adrenalinepump and I didn't really know
where my feet went.
I love that.
I absolutely love that.
I know I have a buddy of mine,he's he always says, you know,
uh Jacob Ms.
Rowski has too much emotion.
I can agree, having too muchemotion can get you into trouble
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if you can't control youremotion.
I'm good with this, though.
If he gets if he comes off thatmound and he's fired up, I love
that.
I love the reaction that he had.
It got the crowd fired up, itgot me fired up.
It it made me think and knowJacob Mizorowski's feeling it
tonight.
And you, well, we knew that whenhe came in pumping 104.
Like, just I when he came in, Ilooked at my wife, I was like,
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you're going to know how muchhis adrenaline's pumping by this
first pitch because I bet youit's gonna be about 104, 103 on
the dot, and then he went 104with the next one, 104.
I was like, Yep, he's feelingit.
He's definitely feeling ittonight here.
That was awesome, it wasabsolutely awesome to see there
uh from Jacob Mesrowski.
So I love that quote there.
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But I saw this, it came from thearticle was written by Paul
Sullivan from the ChicagoTribune.
And I I'm not gonna go throughthis whole thing here, but
basically saying he said likecouncil was treated like he
stole the beer money of 40,000fans.
He's been lustly booed there uhbefore both games and during
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trips to the mound and blah blahblah.
He's talking about this.
It just he said I took uhpsychology class at Mizzou, and
my theory is they resent thefact that the Cubs that Chicago
is a world-class city with greatarchitecture and restaurants.
Well, Milwaukee is a place witha statue of the fonts, it's that
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simple.
Wow.
Everyone has their heart brokenat some point, but eventually
you move on.
Milwaukee refuses to move onfrom Council Snub, even though
Murphy has been remarkablyefficient replacement.
I gotta be honest with you, andyou can go read this article
yourself by Paul Sullivan there.
What a dink.
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Dink.
I said dink.
What a dink with an N.
I just I I hear that.
And you know what?
Sure.
Sure.
The the Brewers have, I mean, II don't think the Brewers sit
here and we go.
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I don't think we sit here and wego, well, I'm jealous of the
Chicago Cubs.
You won okay, they won the WorldSeries back in 2016.
Okay, great.
I'm not really jealous of theCubs at all.
I what have they done elsewhere?
What have the Bears done thatthe Green Bay Packers haven't
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done?
What has um the oh well you cansay the bulls, sure, with
Michael Jordan.
You need Michael Jordan to do itfor you.
Outside of that, what has theChicago what Chicago Cubs, the
Brewers as of late, whathappened in game 163?
You had the division all lockedup, the Brewers tied it, they
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beat the Cardinals, tied it.
Well, game 163 in Wrigley, andthe Brewers beat you.
Yet the Brewers have we we welook up to the Cubs, we look up
to the city of Chicago?
No, no.
Actually, we your stadium isidentified as a toilet bowl,
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Chicago Bears.
Uh, outside of that, what else?
I mean, honestly, at this point,what else are we what else is
the city of Milwaukee looking atand saying, wow, we love that?
The problem that I have withCraig Council, it's it's always
going to be.
I watch the videos where Craigsays, nothing like Milwaukee.
I love Milwaukee.
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This is my home, this is myplace, and he took money to go
somewhere else.
I love Pat Murphy.
I'm glad Craig Counsel left.
I'm good with it.
It doesn't mean that I respectCraig Counsel's decision that
this was the place he went formoney.
It was about money.
My biggest problem in life isthat everybody and every athlete
and everywhere thinks that theyneed more money, and that drives
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this whole entire business.
It's the problem I have with theMLB.
Why guys have to make so muchmoney and there is no salary cap
because of the players' unionand such.
That's a whole nother ballgameto get into.
But I I am not gonna sit hereand say I have a respect for
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Craig Counsel for making thedecision to go to the Chicago
Cubs.
No.
Craig Counsel, if you if youmade the decision to go to the
Cubs, you should know full wellthat the the Milwaukee Brewer
fans, the biggest rival of theChicago Cubs, is going to be the
fans are going to be upset withyou for years to come.
I don't know what you expected.
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What did you expect?
You might say, oh, just get overit.
That's fine.
I'm like I sit here and dwell onit.
Not like it makes, it takes upmy entire day.
I just sit here and oh, I wonderwhat Craig's doing in Chicago
right now.
I don't care.
I don't care.
But when he shows up, I'm gonnaboo him just because it's fun,
right?
Manny Machado stepped on JesusAguilar's ankle in the 2018
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playoffs, and to this day Istill dislike and boo Manny
Machado.
All he did was stepped on JesusAguilar's ankle or kicked his
ankle.
That was it.
And I still boo and dislike him.
You think I'm gonna get overCraig's pretty fast?
No.
You went to the Cubs, what didyou expect?
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That's like if you quit your jobtomorrow, you had a you're great
friends with your boss at work,your boss is your best friend in
the world, and you quit.
And you went over and you workedfor the competitor.
Your biggest competitor, yourbiggest rival.
Do you think your friend isgonna be very keen of you?
Probably not.
Probably not.
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So, no.
I I don't care what Cub fightfans think.
It it would be as if let's justsay, oh, who seems like he's
been there for a while.
Like an Ian Hap or uh NicoHorner decided just to go to
Milwaukee.
I'm gonna go to Milwaukee nextyear.
Cub fans would probably not betoo happy with that.
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It's like if Chris Bryant orAnthony Rizzo would have gone to
Milwaukee.
You don't just do that.
That's like that's I don'tunderstand.
I don't get it.
I really don't.
If you're that diehard of aMilwaukee person, like a fan or
a uh player, and you love thecity and you have nothing but
love for the organization andeverything like that, then it
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just comes true that you justdislike the Cubs.
So going and playing for theCubs or playing for the Brewers
and then managing for theBrewers and then leaving for a
couple a couple extra mil to goand manage the Cubs, the
Brewer's offer was still gonnamake him, as far as I knew, the
Brewer's offer was still gonnamake him the highest paid
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manager in baseball.
It just wasn't gonna give himeverything that he had there.
But if you realistically, if youthink about if when I look at
it, if I was a Cubs fan, I wouldbe jealous of the Milwaukee
Brewers.
If I'm a Phillies fan, I'mjealous of the Milwaukee
Brewers.
If I'm a Dodgers fan, I'mjealous of them.
Mets, same thing.
Yankees, everybody.
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You wanna know why?
Because the Milwaukee Brewers doso much with little and have the
best record in baseball with theone of the least payrolls.
And look what the Mets did withthe payroll that they had.
Look what the Phillies are doingwith the payroll they have, the
Cubs, the Yankees, all theseteams with the biggest payrolls
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in baseball.
How's that working out for you?
So you know what this soundslike, Mr.
Paul Sullivan from the ChicagoTribune?
You know what this sounds like?
A guy who's watching his teamget absolutely dominated by the
Milwaukee Brewers in game oneand two, write in an article
sobbing while writing it,crying, because he is jealous of
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the Milwaukee Brewers and has tofind a reason to complain.
What did you did?
You complain about the roofbeing open too in game one?
Did you complain about that too?
Because it's controlled by theMLB, not the Milwaukee Brewers.
They weren't doing it to get anedge, they weren't doing it for
any of that.
It's controlled by the MLB.
They can't just open the roof.
Everything that happens with theroof when it comes to playoff
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time is dictated by the MLB.
So you want to yell at somebody,yell at them.
If they wanted to give the edgeto the Brewers, that's because
nobody likes Chicago.
There you go.
That's what I gotta say to that,Mr.
Paul Sullivan at the ChicagoTribune.
That article, if you guys wantto read it, you can go through
the whole thing.
I just read bits and pieces hereoff to you guys, and I'm I'm at
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whatever.
Whatever.
Brewer fans, dislike for CraigCouncil.
You'll never understand itbecause you don't, you don't,
you don't, you're not there.
You're not watching the videosfrom the past where Craig's
telling you all this stuff abouthis love for the city and
everything like that.
And then you have to watch himgo put a Cubs uniform on or Cubs
shirt on.
That makes you feel good abouthim.
And he went to your rival rightafter leaving you.
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That made you feel good abouthim.
It's not that Brewer fans don'tlove Pat Murphy because at the
end of the day, we'd love ratherhave Pat Murphy.
The way that it's gone.
It's the way that it ended withCraig and he walked out the
door.
That's what irritates him.
Plus, at this point, it's just,I mean, it's just second nature.
It's just second nature.
Anything that happens with theCubs, we dislike it.
That's just where I'm at.
I just dislike it.
If it happens with the Cubs, Idislike it.
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I'll boot anybody from the Cubs.
I don't care if it's CraigCouncil and Nico Horner, I'll
boo them all.
I don't like Anthony Rizzle, andI don't like Chris Bryant
because of it there.
So yeah, I'm I'm that's whereI'm kind of at with the whole
thing right now.
So if you guys want to readthat, make sure you check it out
from Paul Sullivan there.
So I want to jump over and Iwant to look at the Badgers this
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last weekend here.
They had the game againstMichigan.
They lost to 24-10.
And the Badgers, I gotta say,they had the best opening drive
of the entire season.
Or actually, I you know what?
I'm gonna go crazy here.
They had the best opening driveof the entire Luke Fickle era in
that game against Michigan.
I don't know if it's becausethey blitzed him and Michigan
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didn't know what was going on.
They threw Hunter Simmons outthere and it just threw him for
a loop.
I don't know what it was.
But the Wisconsin Badgers hadeverything cooking on that
opening drive.
And you know what irritated methe most?
So you go down the field, youwalk down the field in the
opening drive, you go, I believeit was 75, 12 plays, 75 yards,
walk down the field, openingdrive, six minutes, 50 seconds,
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and score.
And then Michigan came back,they scored a touchdown
themselves.
But then on the very next drive,Danny O'Neill comes into the
game.
And I'm thinking to myself, whyis Danny O'Neill in the game?
You just orchestrated your bestdrive of your entire coaching
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career in Madison.
In my opinion.
I'm pretty sure it was.
And you decide to pull the guyout that orchestrated that drive
and throw in the quarterbackthat you had before.
Why?
Why mess with it right then?
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Now, do I think it was gonnamake a big, like this big old
difference in the world?
Maybe not, I don't know.
But everything was working offthat opening drive.
Why not stick with it?
We watched Hunter Simmons makesome good throws throughout the
day, and I thought honestly, himbeing out there threw this
Michigan defense for a loop tostart it.
They they were conf notconfused, but it was a different
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kind of look.
The first 12 plays, scriptedplays, were fantastic.
They had Michigan on their toes,on their heels, should I say.
So I kind of loved what I sawfrom the Badgers there to start
that game.
And then they brought in DannyO'Neill, and I was like, why?
I would get if Hunter Simmonswas struggling.
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He wasn't struggling right offthe bat.
And then from there, it just, Imean, they scored that opening
drive touchdown, and then fromthere it just went downhill.
And there was definitely, Imean, there was the missed pass
interference call that they hadon that deep shot he took down
the sideline.
There was that issue there.
There's a couple differentissues that I had with this
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game.
One of the biggest ones that Ihad, and this is where a lot of
Badger fans were sitting comingoff of this game, was the the
lack of, I don't want to say thelack of, but he didn't Luke
Fickle didn't use his timeoutsin the second half.
And the question was, why?
Why didn't he use his timeoutsin the second half?
You can't take them home withyou.
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And they kind of made it seemthat if he would have got they
would have got the stop on thirddown late in the game there, he
would have used them as it wasrunning down the two-minute
warning, but he didn't.
My question is, at the end ofthe day, I don't know if because
I know a lot of fans are upsetabout this one.
I don't know that even if youuse the timeouts, you get the
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ball back, whatever.
I don't know if it's going toactually like you're gonna
you're not I don't know ifyou're gonna win this game.
We've seen crazy things happenin college football, so I'm not
saying it was impossible.
But at least make it seem likeyou thought so.
At least practice like you thinkyou have a shot.
I don't understand why he's donethis times before where he he
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saves these timeouts, middleTennessee.
I believe he didn't use anytimeouts in the first half or
something like that.
Why?
Why if you got him, use them.
There's something you don'tlike, you don't like when you
see it, you don't like a playcall, whatever, call timeout,
reset it.
Whatever it is, I I just don'tunderstand why we're even
talking about because I don't Idon't even care if it was a did
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he have a brain fart, forgotwhat it what time, you know, the
time, whatever.
I I don't care.
At the end of the day, thisbadger team, it just seems
dysfunctional.
And it starts with him becauseit just seems dysfunctional,
like he's not even mentally inthe game.
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How are you supposed to rallythe troops and get players into
the game when you're notmentally into the game?
That's my biggest question.
I mean, it yeah, you just hadover two minutes and you
probably weren't gonna win thatgame, but act like you're the
head coach of this footballteam.
And that's where I think mybiggest problem on the day was
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in a game where, and this iswhere I had the question
earlier.
Somebody asked me.
They said, are we really at thepoint of this bat or of being
badger fans?
Are we really at the point wherenow we're looking at this and
saying this was a good lossbecause they didn't get blown
out?
Are we at that point?
Yes, yes, we are.
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That's where we're at.
I mean, honestly, that's wherewe're at.
A 24-10 loss at Ann Arbor and inMichigan, and you held close
there in the first half, 10 to7, and then it kind of went
south on you.
That's it looked better.
There was there were moments,and that's where it's this game.
There were things you look backat and you say, I kind of like
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that.
There was a few plays by thedefensive line where they got to
Bryce Underwood, they kind ofrattled him in the backfield
there.
They slowed the outside the rungame, that first drive that
Michigan had, they busted offthat huge one there.
I believe it was Haynes that hadthe big one for 43 yards.
They busted off that big one.
They gave him 175 on the game.
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But that a lot of that was onthat first drive.
That first driveway drive therefor him.
Otherwise, the run defense, itsettled into this one.
And the rest of the game lookedpretty good.
Outside of that first run, youlook at it's like a what, 130,
125, something like that.
I mean, I'm not exact maththere, but the run defense
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looked good.
I mean, again, the run defensecame in in this game looking
good.
They looked good after thatfirst drive.
And then, like I said, I mean,the offense, the Hunter Simmons
had moments where he lookedokay.
The offensive line looked betterwith Heinzen in there in the uh
in the center spot instead ofthey moved Kadonko over, they
brought uh Heinzen in, and heended up playing in the in the
(46:55):
center spot, Davis Heinz inthere.
So he made his first careerstart there in the center, and
switching positions there.
The offensive line continues tomove, but maybe, just maybe
after watching this game, theyfound a combo that looks like it
might work.
There's a lot you can take awayfrom this and say, Well, I like
that.
I like the look of that.
And there's a lot of bad, whichI think the worst part of the
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entire thing was looking at thisteam and saying, Yeah, this is
where we're at.
We're at the point where a 24 to10 loss looks good because you
only lost 24 to 10 at Michigan.
So, I mean, you lost by 14 atthis point.
You got Iowa coming up here.
It's homecoming.
You got Iowa, six o'clock game.
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This Iowa game.
What does it feel like?
You know what it's it's almostlike this Iowa game to me.
Is the it's the one chance forthis badger team to salvage
something of this season.
That's what I gotta say to it.
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This Iowa game feels like thisis the one chance for this
badger team to salvage somethingyet.
Because I look at this game.
After this, they play OhioState, they play Oregon, they
have Indiana left, they haveIllinois, they have Washington,
who's a decent team, they haveMinnesota.
If you lose to Iowa, theseason's basically kiosh.
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Because you have Ohio State,Oregon, Washington, Indiana,
Illinois, Minnesota.
Doesn't even matter if you pullup one of them upsets, you still
end up with five wins.
This Iowa game at home againstan Iowa team who you don't know
who's gonna be starting atquarterback.
They've had their struggles.
The defense is still good, butthey're still, I mean, Iowa.
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Iowa is what Iowa has been.
This is a game where Wisconsin,if they come into this one fired
up, the guys come to play, maybethey can pull this one off, but
it feels like this game comingup is their one chance to
salvage something of thisseason, in my opinion.
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So that's kind of where I'mlooking with this one.
I was asked the question (49:06):
did the close loss to Michigan move
the needle into feeling betterabout this team and feeling
better about fickle?
No.
No, not at all.
It moved the needle for theteam.
I think there's a lot ofpotential.
I as I've said before, I thinkthere's a ton of potential on
this team.
Did it move the needle forfickle?
No.
I don't count a 14-point loss toMichigan as a move the needle
(49:26):
kind of move.
Just because you lost a closegame to a ranked team, he's done
that before.
The close loss to Oregon, theclose loss to Penn State.
He's had easy, he hasn't beat aranked team.
He's had close losses before.
It doesn't make me feel better.
So, yeah, that's kind of whereI'm at with this Badger team.
So they got Iowa coming up, sixo'clock game coming up, FS1 on
Saturday there.
(49:47):
So it should be some good stuffthere.
That'll be if the Brewers dohave to go to a game five, it'll
be after the Brewer game.
After the Brewers win thatseries against the Cubs, you can
watch the Badgers take on Iowathere.
So we're gonna come back here.
We're gonna wrap up hour numberone, we're gonna look ahead to
our number two.
We got tons of stuff to get to.
Yet today here on the show,we'll be right back here on
Wisconsin Sports on the Good.
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Wisconsin Sports on the Go withTrage.
I'm your host, Trage.
As we wrap up hour number onehere and look ahead to our
number two here on the showtonight.
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This is one that came in.
If the Brewers don't make theWorld Series, is the season a
bust?
And I got this question lastweek there.
And my mistake, I didn't get toanswer it in that.
(51:13):
I said last week I'd answer itin the next segment.
I completely spaced.
I get all out of out of sortssometimes.
No.
No.
Because, like we've said, andeverybody knows, this team is
playing with house money.
If they go game seven of theNLCS against the Dodgers or the
(51:35):
Phillies, if the Phillies makeit out of the series, if they go
game seven of that and they endup losing on a Shoey Otani
walk-off home run or something.
Something crazy.
I know, knock on what it doesn'thappen.
I'm not going to call thisseason a bust.
I want to say they ran into agood team and lost.
It's the way that it ends.
(51:56):
If you go seven games againstthe Dodgers, the heartbreak's
gonna be for real again.
Like 100%, you know, because wewatched it once before.
So the heartbreak's gonna be forreal.
But I'm not gonna sit here andsay, oh, well, that that
season's a bust because theylost game seven of the NLCS.
No.
No.
Now is it gonna suck?
Yeah, 100%.
Am I gonna be upset with it?
You're dang right I'm gonna be.
(52:17):
Am I going to call it a bustthough?
No.
Now they gotta win the serieswith the Cubs first.
That's 100%.
And I they should.
Should keyword there should.
But outside of that, I mean, yougo NLCS game time.
If you go get swept in the NLCS,okay.
Now, yeah, it's a bust.
(52:37):
Now it's like it's oh yeah, yougot there again, but you weren't
able to get over the hump.
So then all those people aregonna come out of the woodworks
and say, you should have beenable to win it.
Why couldn't you do it?
Blah, blah, blah.
You got those people.
So it's not a bust in my book ifyou are able to push a game set
or push it in the NLCS, get pastthe NLDS here, push in the NLCS,
(52:58):
or you get to the World Seriesand you lose the World Series.
Okay, now it's not a bust if youmake it to the World Series to
lose it.
It's just it sucks.
It really does getting to theWorld Series there and losing
it.
So I can, yes, that's where I'dbe at that one.
Better acquisition, Priester ofBond.
I think I answered that one lastweek.
I'm pretty darn sure I answeredthat one last week there.
I would say probably probablyQuinn Priester.
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I'd say probably Quinn Priester,just because the uh what he's
given to this pitching staffthis season here.
So I would probably say QuinnPriester there.
I had a random one.
Is that is there anything lazierthan not putting a toilet paper
roll back on the roller and justsetting it on top of the roller?
No, not really.
(53:43):
I don't know.
I my biggest thing is well, notmy biggest thing, but I the only
thing that I do is I put it onbackwards, according to my wife.
So I don't put it on the right.
I did not know you could put iton backwards.
I put it on backwards, I guess.
So that's my biggest problem, Iguess, when it comes to that.
So yeah, that's where I'd kindof be with that.
But yeah, so we those are someof the questions I had that came
in there.
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