The Brewers: America's Scrappy Underdogs, Packers Training Camp, Badger Hoops Talk

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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23rd edition of the show here.
I hope you guys enjoyed yourday today.
I hope you guys enjoyed yourwednesday.
I hope you guys are enjoyingyour week.
So far, you enjoyed your lastweekend there.
It was nice.
It was kind of hot.
You know, it seems like I comeback here every week.
I'm like it's been hot.
It's been hot.
Well, it has been darn hot.
It's's been hot this week too,and this last weekend.
Here the boys, we wrapped upthe 12U baseball season so got

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the second place finish in theGreenwood tournament here.
So that was I mean.
It was congrats,congratulations to the
Marshfield Sandlot team thatcame over.
They got the win there and itwas a hard-fought game.
It was.
I mean, the boys battled.
It was an awesome game to be apart of as a coach and
everything like that.
What a great weekend it waswith that.
Spent some time with family, mywife, the little boy,

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everything like that.
It was a great weekend all theway around there Coming off the
weekend, coming off this lastweekend here, there was a lot
that happened, a lot thathappened in this last week and
this next weekend.
We had Zach Tom sign up therewith the Packersers.
We got the extension talk so wewere talking about it ummer and
I had been talking about withthe packers there and finally
the finally the packers signedthat extension with zach tom.
So we're going to talk aboutthat today.
We're going to talk about whatthat means for elton jenkins.

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We're going to get into all ofthat here with the packers later
on.
We got a newcomer on the show,a new guest coming out.
We're going to talk badgershere coming up, a little badger
basketball as they had a littleopen practice there.
We're going to talk badgerbasketball here.
Uh, probably next I'm gonna saynext year he's gonna be
stopping by we're gonna talkbadger basketball.
And then later on I want totalk a little bit of bucks.
Kyle's gonna jump on.
We're talking a little bucksbecause we heard from john horse

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there.
He was talking and I just wantto go over with k Kyle some of
the comments that we saw fromJohn Horst and it was some of
his comments are interesting.
Some are like okay, okay, Ilike that, I like to see that.
So I want to talk about whatJohn Horst had to say.
We're going to get into thatwith Kyle later on the show here
.
And then, of course, the Brewers.
I want to get to the Brewerstoday because I got to be honest

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with you.
I'm so sick of this.
I always start the show everysingle week with what was
grinding my gears.
I always start the week that'show we start the show every
single week is what's grindingmy gears and you know what was
grinding my gears coming offthis weekend?
The Brewers.
They swept the Dodgers twice,twice, six straight against the
Dodgers, three before theall-star break, three after and

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even before.
They were on a 10 game winstreak on the weekend there
after sunday, and all I heardand all I saw across twitter,
from all these accounts andevery you know all these
baseball fans and fans, analysts, like so-called analysts,
whatever you want to call them,all that I saw how are the

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Brewers getting so lucky?
They're just lucky, they'rejust lucky, they're just lucky,
they're lucky.
That's all I kept seeing wasluck, luck, luck, luck, luck.
You know what?
After a while, you can be luckyfor a couple games.
After a while you just got toadmit that they find a way to
win and they are winning gamespretty good right now.

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I mean you look through thestats.
We're going to look through thestats later on in the uh show
here about what we've seen onthis brewers team.
But I mean they're first andinfield hits they don't.
They're not a hard hitting,we're gonna slow out, slug you
kind of team.
But that's why they're startingpitching, why they rely on
starting pitching so much.
That's why they rely on thebullpen so much that they rely

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on speed athleticism.
Doing the little things right.
We keep harping on them.
The little things right.
This team does so good doingthe little things and we talk
about that all the time.
I, I am so sick After 10 games.
It's not luck anymore.
It's not luck.
You can't luck into 10 straight.

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Not against the Dodgers, notagainst the Dodgers.
I don't care who you are theDodgers.
Yes, I will admit the Dodgers.
They screwed up themselves.
Clayton Kershaw, I even said itafter the game.
He was so upset he wouldn'teven talk to the media,
everything like that.
He's like I'm gonna get troublesaying something.
They had a lot of airs.
They let the brewers back intogames.
But some of those airs at timesand there are airs that the

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brewers cause with their baserunning, just just their simple
how they run the bases, thelittle things that they do you
know, jack centurio, he, he, uh,he hustled around third and
scored before Andrew Vaughn wasthrown out at third base.
It was, I mean, bang, bang.
It all happened at the sametime.
But Jackson Turio hustlingaround the bases, getting home
before that throw got to thirdand tagging Vaughn out, that was

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the run, that was the potential.
I believe that I can't rememberoff the top of my head quite
right, but that was a veryimportant run in that game, I
think, because they ended up 6-5.
So that was a very importantrun.
It's those little things thatthe Brewers do right.
This team early on in the season, this Brewers team, they were a
team that you were up 3-0, theylaid down and they were done.

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The way the Brewers startedthis year, a 3-0 deficit was
everything.
They couldn't go down 3-0 andfind a way to score a run
nothing.
Deficit was everything theycouldn't find.
They couldn't go down three,nothing and find a way to score
a run.
It was like they were defeatedright then and there to win
right out of the sales.
This team.
Now it's like the answer isthere, they.
They don't feel like they'reout of any game and we saw that

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against the Dodgers.
The payrolls I don't even haveto name the number of the
payroll, right, the Dodgerspayroll is huge compared with
the Brewers have.
Now you got one guy who'smaking a decent amount of money
there for the uh Dodgers, butthat payroll is huge, the
Brewers not so much.
Yet with this ragtag group, Ilove this quote and I wanted to

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read this quote off from PatMurphy.
I just saw it there.
The other I'm going to lose ithere what?
What Pat Murphy basically saidwas walking into, walking into
Dodger stadium and winning thisgame with this group, this group
of guys that just they don't.
There it is.

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I found it right there.
It's a bunch of guys thatnobody has ever heard of.
Like I said, no disrespect tothe great fans of Japan baseball
, but they can't name fiveplayers in our lineup.
That is absolutely hilariousand that's absolutely the truth.
I've talked with Aaron before.
Aaron, he used to be a part ofthe show here.
He's still a good buddy, goodfriend of the show out there in
Philly and he used to alwaystell me before I met you, I

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didn't know half of the peoplein the Brewers roster.
I didn't know half the people,I didn't know any of them.
He said I knew Yelich, I knewContreras was there, I didn't
know any of the rest.
And then he said, slowly butsurely, the more he watched and
the more that he listened, youknow, and we would talk about
Brewers and he was watching thegames to try to keep, you know,
keep up with it and everythinglike that that you know.
So we got them to talk aboutand he's like this team, you

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just fall in love with them.
You just fall in love with themmore and more as it goes, as
you watch them.
And that's why I really do thinkI saw that it was an article
written.
It was out there in LA, one ofthe LA I don't know who, some

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reporter out there in LA.
They said that the Brewers maybe America's team.
They said the Brewers might beAmerica's team.
And I agree with that so muchBecause you don't.
The Dodgers are not America'steam.
Why Dodger fans root for theDodgers?
Nobody else roots for theDodgers.

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Nobody, really not.
No, just Dodger fans.
Right, if you get into aplayoff series and it's the
Dodgers versus the Diamondbacks,dodger fans cheering for the
Dodgers, everybody else ischeering for the Diamondbacks.
You get to the NLCS and it's theBrewers versus the Dodgers
versus the Diamondbacks, dodgerfans cheering for the Dodgers,
everybody else is cheering forthe Diamondbacks.
You get to the NLCS and it'sthe Brewers versus the Dodgers.
Winner goes to the World Seriesthe United States versus LA.

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There you go.
That shows you what America is.
It's like the Dallas Cowboys.
The Dallas Cowboys areso-called America's team but
when it comes down to it, dallasCowboy fans will cheer for
Dallas Cowboys.
Nobody like bandwagons over tothe Dallas Cowboys.
They pray for the Cowboys tolose.
People pray for the Dodgers tolose.

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People pray for the Cubs tolose.
They don't really pray for theBrewers to lose.
They don't care.
The Brewers are the Brewers andI think the Brewers, the way
that they do it, they annoy fanbases.
They annoy fan bases.
They annoy opposing teams.
They annoy basically othersmall market fan bases because

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they're jealous that basically,their team can't do the same
thing the Brewers do.
Actually, I believe most, evenbig markets are jealous that
they can't do what the Brewersdo.
Can you imagine the Dodgers ifthey could just find the talent,
like the Brewers do, and makeit work somehow?
Could you imagine that?
I mean, you look at what thisBrewers team is able to do with
a guy like Quinn Priester.

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Comes over from the Red Soxright, just an average Joe.
When he came over he pitchedfor Pittsburgh.
He was in the Red Sox uniform.
There Just wasn't reallyanything.
He comes to the Brewers and hewins a 2-0 shutout against the
Dodgers and just pitches lightsout.
Just put a new respect on hisname.

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After that outing in LA, afterthe All-Star break, that was, I
believe, a tone setter.
There was two tone setters inthose series.
I think the two nothing wintook the wind out of the Dodgers
sale and I think game one athome that the Brewers just lit

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up Yamamoto.
I think that was a wind out ofthe sales moment too for this
Dodgers team.
Yamamoto I think that was awind out of the sails moment too
for this Dodgers team.
This team, this Brewers team, isa relentless team.
They just keep coming at youand they come at you in
different ways.
They find different ways toscore.
It's not always.
Oh well, we got to hit the.
This team was so prone in thepast to just be all about the

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long ball.
We needed the long ball to wingames, to just be all about the
long ball.
We needed the long ball to wingames, and that's where I think
they ran into such a problem inpast here with.
Well, we got to rely on thelong ball so much that we leave
guys in scoring position.
We do those things Now.
I mean, you look at a guy likeSal right, sal Frelick and I
know he's banged up right nowbut but Sal Frelick, what he's

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done for this team this year,the amount of catcher's
interferences that he draws justbecause he swings so late and
he lets the ball travel and hejust puts the ball in play.
The transformation that he'staken this season.
And a guy like Isaac Collinscoming along, and now you've got
Blake Perkins coming back, sothat's a huge boost in that
outfield, especially defensively.

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Joey Ortiz has come alive,terang's been solid this year
for you, and Javon, sinceBrewers got him, I mean he's
been great for what we've seen.
Jackson Churrios has come along, christian Yelich Contreras can
come along and be awesome, butjust the transformation of some
of these guys, that jump thatthey've taken where we were all
worried.
Okay, what's going to happennow?
Adamas is gone, who's going tostep up?

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Who's going to be that guy?
Who's going to be that constantforce in this lineup?
And it's been different guysalong the way that have kept
it's kept pacing this offense.
It was Reese Hoskins for awhile, then it was Yelich, and
now it's been Yelich and now itwas Ortiz and it's been Sal's
been consistent along the wayand so has Terang.
It's the ability of this team todo it in different ways.
That's what drives these otherfan bases nuts.

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That's what drives them nuts isthey don't have that same
ability.
They watch their team, theywatch their owner, whatever
their GM go out, grab players,bring them in, and it just
doesn't work, it doesn't fit.
And then they look over at theBrewers and they're like how did
they get a guy like QuinnPriester?

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Bring him in, and now he couldbe basically a number two in
most teams' staff.
And then they brought in a guylike Andrew Vaughn and he
couldn't hit with the White Sox.
He was struggling all year.
The White Sox didn't even wanthim and he just started lighting
it up for the brewers.
How do they find a way toconstantly do this with guys?
And it just drives them nuts.

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That's why I think the brewers,they just they annoy large fan
bases.
They don't want us to be there,they don't want the brewers to
be there, they don't want thebrewers to be along with them,
because they think, oh, we haveall the money, we have all the
big name players.
Right, we have the DodgersMookie Betts, freddie Freeman,
you have Teoscar Hernandez, youhave Shoya Otani.
If you count Teoscar Hernandezas a big name, you got glass.

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Now you got, I mean, like,looking at the Dodgers, like I
just watching these last twoseries and seeing the names that
the Brewers were going through,it was like holy crap, in a
million years would you havethought that some of these guys
should have been in the samefield as some of these guys?
I mean, these guys are Hall ofFamers.
I mean this is just the Brewersdon't even blink.

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They don't even blink.
They don't see it as, oh, thisteam is stacked, they're a bunch
of Hall of Famers.
They don't see it as, oh, thisteam is stacked, they're a bunch
of Hall of Famers.
They don't see it as that.
They see it as we belong inthis field and we're going to do
all those little things rightto find a way to beat you.
And it's awesome, it isabsolutely awesome.
So, coming off that weekendthere, all that luck, bull crap

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and all that I'm done with it.
I'm done with that.
This Brewers team found a wayto battle all the way back from
where they were at the start ofthis year, where they look like
they were destined to fall apart, have to trade pieces away at
the deadline, everything likethat.
And now look at them, they'retied.
They were just over the weekendthere.
They got tied up for firstplace there with the Cubs.
They had almost the best recordin baseball.

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They're right there with theTigers and the Cubs for the best
record in baseball.
The way that they've just putit all together and found a way
awesome, absolutely awesome.
So that was what was grindingmy gears off the weekend.
There was just seeing acrosssocial media this luck, bull
crap.
I'm so done with that.
And then also this whole WNBAthing.
The All-Star game happened overthe weekend and I don't really

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want to talk about this thatmuch, so I'm just going to just
spit my mind out and then we'regoing to go to break.
We're going to come back.
We're going to talk about it.
The WNBA they wore theset-shirts that pay us what you
owe us.
They're set to make a profitthis year, but they're I every
article that I've read.
They're set to make a profitthis year, but they're still in

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a deficit.
Do they deserve more?
You could say so.
Yes, I've heard arguments bothways.
What irritates me the most iswe have to still tear down
people along the way.
That's what irritates me themost.
And if you guys haven't seen it,watch that interview with
Kelsey Plum out there and sheblatantly calls out Kaitlyn

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Clark's team as they didn't showup for the whole t-shirt
meeting.
Whatever t-shirts are fine, Idon't care, wear the t-shirt
like you can do whatever youwant.
That's how it is.
You can do what you want, freecountry, right?
It's just why the pettiness,everything like that of some of
these players that you have tolisten to, they're what's

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driving fans that want to beinvested in it.
They're driving them away.
I want to be invested.
I want to watch these games, Iwant to be interested in what
I'm seeing, but when I have tohear those interviews and hear
that kind of bs and just hatingsomebody because they are more
popular than you.
I'm not going to support that.

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I'm not going to support that.
I'm not going to watch that.
You want to make money.
Before Kaitlyn Clark was in theleague, let's just go, grand
scheme of things, and that'swhere I want to be.
Before that class, before shecame in, there wasn't much going
on.
She came in.
Now you guys have a platform,you guys have all this.

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Why can't you just accept that?
Why can't we just accept thatand just move on?
Let it be.
Accept her.
You can, behind closed doors,be however you want to be In
front of the camera.
Accept her, be nice.
Be nice, play nice, get stuff,get money.

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You keep playing this game.
It might not end well.
So that's all I want to say.
I was asked a question about theWNBA stuff over the weekend.
That's all I want to say.
It's just a whole bunch ofpettiness.
That's what it is at this point.
It's annoying, it is absolutelyannoying and I just really wish
that that would go away,because I mean, there are some

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good players in that league.
It's just they can't get out oftheir own way of being.
I have to be the best.
Yeah, you can try to be thebest on the court.
Don't be the best of.
Oh, I need to be the mostpopular out there.
It, it's.
It's what drives away eyeballsat that point.
Just play basketball.

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Play basketball.
Let the fans love you for whatthey see on the court, not
trying to drive them away fromanother player because you just
feel like, oh well, they, theythink they're more popular.
No, they are, they are, so justaccept it.
So it's just the pettiness ofthe WNBA is just driving me nuts
at this point.
So we're going to come back.
Let's reset.
We're going to reset when wecome back here.

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How are we doing tonight,christian?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Good man, Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
It is my pleasure.
My pleasure to have you ontonight here.
So let the people know aboutyou a little bit.
You were telling me yourbackstory there a little bit
when we were at commercial break.
Let me know, let the peopleknow about you a little bit.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, absolutely, school teacher by trade, fifth
grade down in Columbus,wisconsin, right outside of
Madison here.
But always had a passion forWisconsin sports, specifically
football and basketball rightthe two big ones.
But kind of got into writing atBadger of Honor on Fan Sighted
a few years ago.
And then I linked up with DylanGraff over at Badger Notes If

(19:32):
you haven't ever read any of hisstuff, make sure you check that
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He does a phenomenal job andthen kind of led into Athlon and
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It's on Substack, you know,free to subscribe, just kind of
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Speaker 1 (19:51):
It is.
I read his articles all thetime there.
I try to share them across theFacebook page whenever I can,
and it is his article is awesome.
They always make you think,they always give you information
that you need to know.
Some people just there's a lotof reporters out there who
report.
The yannis is gonna leave thebox in 15 it's like I'm just
some of these reporters just goall crazy on you.
He's getting you the need toknow, right then, and some of

(20:12):
those things where you're inthat odd period, right, we're in
the dog days of summer, youdon't know what to talk about.
He's giving you those things tothink about when you're in
those dog days.
So it's great stuff there.
So we want to talk Badgerbasketball today here on the
show because we had the summeropen practice.
I don't know if it's normal, Ican't recall if it's normal, but
it happened this year.
So I want to talk about it herea little bit.

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But before we get there, mark,I'm going to butcher his name.
I know I'm going to do itbecause I've done it 30 times
now.
Mark Vanden Wettering, do youknow how to pronounce his name?
Like spot on.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Not spot on necessarily, mark
Vandenwettering.
There you go, that's what it isThat'll work.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
He's promoted to the Badgers GM.
So he's been with the Badgersbasketball team for a little bit
now and now he's promoted tothe GM down there.
Can you just touch on that alittle bit?
What is that going to do forthe Badgers what?
What do you think about thatrole with him inside the walls
there?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, honestly, I don't think it's going to change
a whole lot.
I think it's already stuff he'sbeen doing.
Now he just has the officialtitle, you know, with like NIL
transfer portal, just kind ofall that stuff.
That is just the new normal incollege basketball, you know.
I think it takes.
The whole point of it is ittakes a lot of stuff off the
plate for greg guard maybe likemore administrative stuff.

(21:25):
I know he's going to behandling a lot of like the
scheduling, uh like gettingrecruits in, especially through
the transfer portal, getting allthat scheduled.
So guard isn't necessarilydoing all that.
I know guard's definitely stillgoing to be hands-on with a lot
of it, but this just kind oflike takes a lot of like the
stuff he doesn't necessarilyneed to do off his plate so he
can focus more on the actualrecruiting of guys, things like

(21:45):
that.
Um, I also know he was in chargeof like their non-conference
scheduling in the past andobviously I don't know, I wrote
an article on this just a littlebit ago.
But, um, the non-conferenceschedule for the badgers
basketball team this year isabsolutely top notch.
Um, obviously way differentfrom college basketball and like
what you see with, like or uh,college football, like what you
see with Indiana just schedulingcupcake after cupcake, right,

(22:09):
but like they got, they justhave.
They have obviously our normalWIAC exhibition game, right, but
then they also have theyscheduled an exhibition game
against Oklahoma at Pfizer Forumthis year.
They have Villanova, they gotBYU.
It's stacked right.
So he's doing a really, reallygood job with that.
So I think it's a lot of stuff.

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From what I hear, it's allstuff he's been doing.
He was the chief of staff for awhile, but I think they kind of
gave him more of an appropriatetitle as general manager.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
So I think a lot of it's going to be business as
usual, but I think it fits himhim really well and as long as
the season can get right,because you get into march
madness, you get late in march,madness, and the transfer portal
is already open.
I think it's the dumbest thingin the world.
It shouldn't happen that way,but that's the way it does and
you can't.
It's so hard for a guy likeguard or any coach out there to
be dealing with recruits,dealing with all that, trying to

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retain guys in the middle ofmarch, middle of the, and now
you're trying to deal with thatmadness on top of it.
You need a guy like this.
So I completely agree Having aguy, especially a guy who's
already been in the system, justmove up, basically was doing it
, like you said already Just now.
He's got the role right, he'sgot the official title.
I agree that non-conferenceschedule.
It's definitely going to be theresume booster, right, it's

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going to be that resume booster.
When it comes down to it, theygot that tournament.
Which tournament are they inthere?
They could face Florida in thisround.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Oh man, what tournament is that Boy?
I can't even think of the nameoff the top of my head.
I'll see if I can find it herequick, but I know it's Florida.
But who do they play first?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Is it not Providence?
Is it Providence and?

Speaker 2 (23:41):
then it would be like the winner or loser.
You know, whatever thecounterpart of Florida and I
think TCU, that's still- I mean,even TCU is a decent matchup
there.
I got to double check becauseif I get this wrong it's going
to drive me nuts here.
I got it right here Becauseit's honestly the Rady
Children's Invitational.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Okay.
And then of course they don'thave it on there.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, that's okay.
That's okay, they just havelike.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
TBA.
We know that the matchup, Imean it's going to be a daunting
tournament there.
They have a dauntingnon-conference schedule.
But let's talk about this teamthat they got building up right
now, because with this squad,with this team that Greggard has
built up, I mean, is it crazyto feel so?
I've been, I've been looking ata lot of this team right now.
I've been looking at some ofthe numbers over the past year.

(24:29):
Is it crazy to feel like thismight be the deepest badger team
that we've seen, if not inrecent memory, in a long time?
I mean, they have the ability,I believe, to go maybe 9, 10
deep.
I mean they have there's a tonof potential here on the bench
for this Badger team.
What are you seeing right now?
I mean, is it crazy to feellike this might be the deepest
team the Badgers have had in awhile?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
See, I was thinking about that too.
But I kept going back to thatnational championship team.
I was thinking, okay, you gotthe five-stars, then you got
Bronson Koenig, you got ZachSchroelzer, duye Duken on the
bench, vito Brown on the bench.
So I mean, at least until youknow that team, I think this is
probably the deepest thatthey've been.
I know like last year they wererelatively, you know, young.

(25:13):
They had, you know, a bunch offreshmen, things like that.
But you can only go seven,maybe eight, deep in conference
play last year, even with asgood as they were, you know.
But now I definitely think likethey're deep this year.
I think like they'd becomfortable putting a lot of
guys in that didn't necessarilyhave, you know, they couldn't
play last year.
Right, they brought in ElijahGray from Temple he's a senior,

(25:35):
he's got one year left.
Braden Carrington, coming fromTulsa Was it Tulsa or Tulane?

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Tulsa.
I believe Tulsa, yeah, Okay,yep.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
And then he was at Minnesota before that too.
So I mean, and he's going to bea fifth-year senior, so they
got a lot of guys that are, youknow, they have one year of
eligibility left.
They're not going to bring themin unless they're planning on
playing them, right?
So I mean, I absolutely agree.
I think there's a ton of depthon this team, so and it's really
exciting to see so you're notalways just like, well, crap,
foul, trouble, things like that,like what are you gonna do?
Right, you got to get a guy whonever plays.

(26:09):
So I definitely set them up fora really successful year this
year.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think.
I think the big part for me wasalways the drop off right.
They always had guys who youcould rotate in.
They had this, they had somesize, depth and stuff, but they
just lack the.
Okay, if I, if I go to my benchnow, who's going to score,
who's going to be that guy tostep up in that role?
And I think that's wherethey've been lacking.
I look at this bench and I'mlike, okay, you have Jack
Janicki coming off.
If he takes that step this nextyear, you could even I mean

(26:35):
looking at a guy like Rapp.
Will he come off the bench forthis team?
Is he going to?
I mean they have there's a lotof combos that they can go with
and I'm really interested, likeyou're talking there, with that
depth they brought in,especially with those transfers,
what we're going to see.
And then you have the youngguys.
I mean there's still some youngguys who can step in and
produce for you in the Kings orthe garlic.
I mean we're going to get intoboth these guys here, but I mean

(26:56):
just those guys who can stepinto this role.
So it just has me excited forthe scoring options that this
team is going to have herecoming up this year.
So the biggest one of them all.
This has got to be my favoriteplayer coming back from last
year John Blackwell and GregGard he comes and he says he's
come with more of a dominantmentality, as you can see in his

(27:16):
play, he has the ability totake over and really dominate
games.
We're questioning who's goingto be the next John Tonje, right
?
I don't think we need to lookfor the next John Tonje, I think
he's been here.
I just think he was waiting forthat role and to step up in that
role.
And now with a guy like NickBoyd right, because coming off
of that he's withdrawing fromthe NBA draft we kind of all

(27:37):
knew what was going to happen hewas going to withdraw, he was
going to put the waters and thenhe was most likely going to
come back because he wasn'tgoing to be a lottery pick.
But how much do you think it'sgoing to help having a guy like
Rhodey in there and also a guylike Boyd Nick Boyd coming in
the two fantastic transferscoming in there how much do you
think that's going to benefit aguy like John Blackwell, where

(27:57):
now it's going to take that loadoff him, right, he doesn't have
to be the main ball handler.
To be the main ball handler, hecan just be the guy.
How much do you think thathelps him this next season?
Also, I mean testing those NBAwaters how much do you think
both those things are going tohelp him just take over this
next season for the Badgers?

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I think they're both huge.
As far as testing the NBAwaters, I mean, he tried out for
a couple teams.
You know that they, you know,kind of gave him some things he
needs to work on right.
This is what you need to do toget drafted or you know whatever
.
Like this is what scouts arelooking for, what teams are
looking for.
I think that's huge for him.
But as far as like Boyd andRhodey coming in too, like you

(28:32):
said, that's going to take a lotof pressure off of him.
I think people looked at him,you know, like he had Tonjay
with him to, like you know, do abulk of the scoring right.
But now, with Tonjay gone,blackwell's obviously going to
be the focus of the offense.
Teams are going to know that.
But now that Boyd coming in,he's going to be.
That's the thing with Blackwelltoo.

(28:52):
He kind of had to be the defacto point guard last year
between him and Klesnett lastyear, and I don't think
Blackwell really is that truepoint guard.
He's more of just a two.
He's more of just like a two.
He wants like he's more of ascorer than an actual like
distributor.
I know he's definitely still aplaymaker.
He gets downhill, he gets tothe hoop.
But I think that's where Boydkind of comes in and like he can

(29:16):
like and he was making plays inpractice like getting to the
hoop dishing it out to Rody forthrees, and I think that's going
to take a lot off ofBlackwell's plate so like he can
just focus more on like scoringrather than having to run the
points or run the offense.
So I think that's going to behuge.
Rhodey's going to be like hugefor like shooting.
Like you know, perimeters, theperimeter shot he.
We all saw like how much theBadgers shot threes and stuff

(29:38):
last year.
Like that's a huge part oftheir game.
Now they needed a three shooterso they brought him in.
He was a huge scorer atVirginia by any means, but when
he was with St Thomas he wasalmost 20 points a game as a
true freshman too.
So obviously Virginia still wasrunning like that swing offense
, not super fast-paced, notputting up a ton of points.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
So I'm really, really interested to see what he can
do in this Wisconsin offense,yeah, especially with the guy
like Greg Gard who now I reallyreally interested to see you
know what he can do in thiswisconsin offense.
Yeah, especially with the guylike greg guard who now I mean,
could we see it again?
Could we see it again withanother wing coming into the
badgers, where greg guard justsays, all right, you were
averaging 12, let's get you upto 20?
That'd be okay.
What it'd be crazy.
It'd be absolutely crazy if ithappened there.
But I, I love you mentionedthere with nick boyd and he said

(30:22):
.
This is what greg Gard has said.
He said the first few days weshould have put helmets on
players because of a few of themalmost had concussions from the
passes he was throwing.
You just got to be ready forthat pass.
He is an experienced guy.
He went into that final fourwith FAU.
He's been on that run, he'sbeen deep in March.
He knows what it takes to getthere and what it takes to win.
Fau, I think is a good good, agood like grouping to put

(30:45):
Wisconsin in with that kind ofrun, because Wisconsin isn't
Duke, they're not North Carolina, they're not Kentucky, they're
not this powerhouse team.
They have a lot of I don't knowif you call them the misfits,
but they have a lot of guys inthere where they're not your
standard.
We're going to expect theseguys to make that deep run in
March even.
I mean you look back at a FrankKaminsky who would have thought
he was going to be nationalplayer of the year, but he was.

(31:05):
You look at this Badger team.
You're like that is an FAU kindof team.
So a Nick Boyd running thatoffense where he comes in and
now he just they give him thekeys.
Right, he's an experienced guy,they give him the keys.
I think that's awesome.
So the impact is going to be ofa guy like Nick Boyd with that

(31:29):
experience, that experiencecoming into this Badger offense
with Greg Gard, just basically.
I mean it's not like a freshmanyou're not giving the keys over
to a freshman like Chucky Eppernright now.
When he came first came in,you're giving the keys to a guy
who's been there, done that,bounced around, he's experienced
and can score it.
I mean, just just touch in onwhat Nick Boyd is going to mean
with that experience, to thisteam yeah, yeah, like you said,
he's been there, right.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
I don't necessarily know if a moment's going to be
too big for him, especiallybeing here.
It's his last year.
He's been in Madison for awhile already.
He's obviously got a goodhandle on the offense, I'm sure.
So again, he's going to havethe bulk of running the show.
He's going to be facilitatingeverything.
He's going to have the bulk oflike running the show, like
everything is going to.
He's going to be facilitatingeverything.
He's going to do all that andit's going to take a lot more

(32:08):
off of Blackwell, like we justtalked about, right?
So I think that's going to be.
You know, I think things aregoing to go a lot more smoothly,
because last year it felt likewho's the point guard?
Blackwell, is it Max?
Klesmit Is actually Nickyrunning it a little bit at some
point.
So it's what you know.
I mean.
I think it's going to makethings a lot easier, a lot more
smooth, I would imagine.
But at least you hope, right?

(32:30):
Right, because Big Ten'sprobably a step up from FAU and
even San Diego State, right.
But I think what I mean thedude, he can play.
You know he averaged what let'ssee four assists last year and
almost not even two turnovers at13.4 points a game, and that
was for San Diego State.

(32:51):
So I think and I'm sure he waskind of the guy there, right, so
I mean he's probably not goingto have to be the guy for the
Badgers this year, at leastscoring-wise.
So I think that'll definitelymake things a little easier all
around for everyone, right.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yep, no, I would 100% agree.
He's going to be able to settleinto that facilitator role,
which I think is where he'sdestined to be, and that's what
we're hearing coming out ofpractice.
There's just those passes thathe's throwing right now.
They're crisp, they're cleanand they're getting the guys and
Greg Gard is loving what he.
Last but not least, though,well, I got one, two more things
, two more things here.
Nolan winter yeah, he's.

(33:26):
We're hearing things coming outof there.
He's putting on some weight.
That's what I'm hearing rightnow.
So I want to talk about that,like what is he doing to bulk up
here in the offseason?
And then, do we feel like hecan be a number five?
He was a four, he was abadger's four last year.
Does he have that ability to bea five this season for the
Wisconsin Badgers, becausethey're going to need that big
guy center out there.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
So I think he's going to have to be.
Right, he's crawl gone.
I mean you mentioned before Rapcoming in, but he's more of a
power forward and he's not allthat big Like you know,
size-wise he's tall but he's notlike he's not that thick.
But yeah, I've heard kind ofthe same thing.

(34:09):
He's looked noticeably biggerand they asked him about and he
says he's eating like a fullmeal every two or three hours.
Right, he's, he's putting, he'she's making a concerted effort
to put on a lot of weight, tolike bulk up and be that you
know presence inside.
Because I mean if he's notgoing to be able to do that,
they're gonna.
I mean they're gonna get eatenup in the, you know, especially
down low.
But I guess then you hope a guylike Garlack will come in, you
know, as a true freshman withsome minutes there.

(34:29):
But you hope you don't have toput him in in too many big
moments where he has to actuallydo something right away.
But I think I don't know.
I think Nolan Winter is I thinkeveryone likes to talk about
John Blackwell a lot I honestlythink Nolan Winter is kind of
like the guy who is the bestchance to make, you know to make
it in the NBA.
You know that next level.
So I think I mean you see itall the time as long as he can

(34:52):
start shooting from deep too,like NBA obviously cares about
that a lot, but he's I mean, ifhe can bulk up a little bit, he
can be a defensive presence, hecan, you know know, get a ton of
the rebounds and stuff.
I think that's gonna be hugefor the badgers, and if he can't
do that, I don't know, theymight be kind of in limbo.
You know they're gonna belooking for answers that, uh,
maybe they don't have answers to, or yeah, no, and he's just a

(35:15):
natural three level score.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
He's just natural when it comes to it there, and
if he can bulk up along withwhat he's been, what he's been
able to, I mean, watch out, he'sgoing to be darn good there.
I tell you what.
Two to three hours he's eatinga meal.
I do that too, but him and I,we look different.
We look different, that's forsure.
Mine gets to midsection thereand I got to get a bigger pair
of pants.
That's all I know.
He does it and it's like ohyeah, whatever there.

(35:38):
So I mean, was there any otherobservation before we get out of
here or before I let you gohere?
Were there any otherobservations that you had from
open practice, anything that yousaw, anything that you liked?

Speaker 2 (35:51):
coming out of there.
Yeah, will Garlick has anothername I heard a lot about, like I
just mentioned.
He's big, like he is all of7'7" from what I understand, and
he was sticking his nose inthere getting rebounds.
He was holding his own fromwhat I understand.
That's definitely encouraging.

(36:13):
Like I said, even if NolanWinter gets in foul, trouble or
whatever, at least you've got aguy that can hop in and jump in
there and get some minutes atthe 5-2.
If he's not in there, if hecan't do it, and if Winter's
winter's out, then you kind ofgot to go with rap or you know
the the I'm not going to try topronounce his name the

(36:34):
lithuanian, that guy I'm not.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
So you know that one I'll butcher I'll butcher that
we're gonna wait for that one onthe radio, and then maybe I'll
take a stab at it absolutelyright.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
It's gonna be like trying to learn yana
sanatakumpo's name all overagain oh yeah, there's some of
these names.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
It just oh, I just look at him, I'm like that guy,
that guy you know I do thesepreviews and everything like
that.
I look at these guys and I'mlike, nope, not even, not even
going to try it, like not evengoing to try it.
The point guard, the pointguard over there from Tulane.
He's pretty dark.
So one last I mean, just letthe people know where to find
you out there, to find yourstuff, everything like that

(37:13):
across social media, everythinglike that.
One last reminder of where theycan find you.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yeah, absolutely you can follow me on Twitter.
You know pretty much any of thesocial media platforms.
At Christian Borman, you canfollow the Badger Backer on
Twitter too.
I mean it's essentially just meanyway, but otherwise you can
go to the Badger or justbadgerbackercom.
Feel free to subscribe.
I mean it's not necessarily adaily newsletter, but you know,
whenever notable news comes outand I can get to it, I'll shoot

(37:39):
her out and get to you guys'inboxes, and or just you'll find
it on Facebook, twitter, any ofthose spots.
But get to your guys' inboxes,or just you'll find it on
Facebook, twitter, any of thosespots.
But absolutely you can find mepretty much anywhere on there.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Make sure you guys are doing it.
He's got great stuff out therethe need to know news right,
that's what he just said therethe need to know news, and
that's all you need right there.
So thank you for coming outtonight We'll definitely you're
going to have badger basketball.
We got tons of stuff as we getcloser and closer to the fall
here.
So thank you for stopping by.
We're going to come back hereafter the quick break.
We're going to talk and we'llsee.
Maybe we'll get brewers.

(38:08):
I who knows where the show isgoing to go?
It always gets wild here as weget close to the top of the hour
.
So we'll be right back here onwisconsin sports on the go with
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christian.
If not, I will have it.
I I, I've been lazy, I've been.
The world's been hectic with melately.
It's been hectic.
I got the baby boy, I got thewife, baseball going on.

(39:10):
So much stuff was happeningthat I have just been not able
to get the show up on thepodcast site.
So I am telling you now I willget it up on the podcast site
coming up here this coming week.
I'll get it up here.
So make sure you guys arechecking back there.
If you missed it, christian,they were talking a little bit
of badgers in that last segmentand everybody, everybody.

(39:32):
That was his first time.
That was his first time onradio and I thought he did a
fantastic job.
He told me at the commercialbreak when we were just getting
out of it he's like that was, itwas like it was so
nerve-wracking for him.
You could could tell a littlebit there.
But he is awesome.
He is absolutely awesome atwhat he does there.
So make sure you're checkinghim out out there, the Badger
Backer.
Make sure you're checking outthe Badger Backer, his little

(39:54):
articles that he does there, thesite that he has Badger Backer.
He's got them across all ofsocial media so make sure you're
checking him out there, theBadger Backer, christian Borman
there.
So we got lots I want to getinto yet today here on the show
Coming up after the top of thehour.
We got Kyle with Bucks.
We got Elmer coming out.
We're going to talk Packers.
We got Brewer talk to get to itlater on in the show.
We got all kinds of stuff.

(40:14):
But I want to get to theBrewers right now here a little
bit as we get close to the topof the hour and this Brewer
segment here I want to talkabout.
So I saw a post and I wasmentioning it off the top of the
top of the show here I wasmentioning, you know, talking
about you know that LA reporterwas talking about how the
brewers are America's team.

(40:35):
They really thought the brewerswere America's team and I found
that interesting and Imentioned you know small markets
hate the brewers because theywant to be the brewers and the
big markets hate the brewersbecause they want to be the
brewers and the big markets hatethe brewers because they don't
want them to belong with them.
And I just, you know, talkingabout that kind of stuff there
and the brewers, I just when Ihear America's team, it just
feels like a team like thebrewers just fits that fold,

(40:58):
just fits that fold.
They do the little things right.
It's hard to hate them and theyjust find ways and they beat up
on the good teams.
That's awesome.
That's awesome, right.
And I saw a this was from a Cubs, a Cubs fan or whatever across
social media.
He did the digging on the statsfor me, so thank you for that.
But I saw he posted out thereand he said meet your 18 games,

(41:22):
over 500.
Milwaukee Brewers Last in teambarrel rate, last in team exit
velocity, second to last in teamlaunch angle, 20th in team
extra base hit.
There's extra base average.
First in soft hit percentage,first in infield hits percentage
and first in infield hits, andthe list.

(41:44):
I mean you could go on and onwith all these.
What he's trying to say and thisis back to the luck thing again
what he's trying to say is thisBrewers team is just getting
lucky.
They're just getting lucky.
That's plain and simple.
That's what he's telling me andthat luck's going to run out
right.
See, I'm going to say exactlywhat I said off the top of the

(42:05):
show right here.
One more time you can get luckyfor a few games, but six
straight against the Dodgers,that's a lot of luck, that's a
lot of luck.
Pinch me, pinch me, that's alot of luck right there.
So all of this, all of thosenumbers that I just read off to
you, it absolutely shows me howthe Brewers win baseball games

(42:28):
Outside of.
Also, you talk about in that8-0 run when they were 8-0, that
eight-game span there they werethe first team in MLB history
to go 8-0, 85-plus pitchingstrikeouts, fewer than 45 hits
allowed and fewer than 15 runsallowed in an 8-0 stretch where

(42:51):
that had the Dodgers pasted onit, 15 runs allowed across those
series.
And then I mean you did havethe series before that.
There it was with the Nationals.
You had them sandwiched kind ofin there during that all-star
break, but regardless duringthat little stretch run, and

(43:12):
then it went to 9-0, and thenthe stats changed and everything
like that.
But I had the 8-0 stats, sojust read off that one there.
What I'm saying is that allthose stats that I just read off
to you before with the hittingabsolutely tells me how the
Brewers win games.
Small ball move runners playfast, hard, do the little things
right and better than anyoneelse does it Do those little

(43:32):
things, like I mentioned earlier, with Jackson Turio hustling
around third and scoring beforeVaughn got thrown out at third
base.
Now, did he know Vaughn wasgoing to get thrown out at third
?
No, he didn't know Vaughn wasgoing to go.
I don't know why Vaughn all ofa sudden thinks he's like LA De
La Cruz out there running around.
But maybe he's been watchingBryce Terang a little too much.
But you know, you get with thissmall ball club.

(43:53):
You're like I can run fast too,right.
No, no, no, no, settle down,settle down.
But what I'm saying is this thisBrewers team does a little
things right and they do thoselittle things that you don't
really think about them.
Because you watch a team likethe Yankees or you watch a team
like a Dodgers.
They win those games by hittingthe long.
That's the way that they winball games.
That's how they stay in ballgames.
They have the ability to kindof screw up because they have

(44:16):
that power numbers.
They have those littleintangibles.
The Brewers their margin forerror, I would say, is less.
They have a lesser margin forerror than opposing teams.
Opposing teams they can.
I mean you look at the Dodgersright, usually right now they
kind of are stinking andhopefully it continues right,
I'd love to see that.
But usually the Dodgers, withOtani and Betts and Freeman and

(44:42):
you know everybody else in thatlineup, they have the ability
where they can screw up a littlebit, but they'll be fine.
They'll be fine.
The Brewers, they're a teamwhere it's all or nothing.
You got to have.
This whole team has kind of gotto be.
It doesn't have to all beclicking at the same time, but
they've got to all be doingtheir part.
The defense has got to takecare of their business.

(45:03):
The pitching staff has got totake care of their business.
You've got to have guys gettingon, moving guys around, finding
ways to move guys around, thoselittle things that are kind of
overlooked in the game.
Today's game, the average gameright, we're not in the average
game anymore, we're in the longball game, we're in the extra
big hit games, we're not in the.
I mean Aaron Judge is.
Aaron Judge has actually beenphenomenal for this year because

(45:25):
he not only has power numbers,but he also has the average
there.
Same with a guy like Will SmithJacob Wilson.
Those guys have all hit wellthis season across the league
there.
Same with a guy like Will SmithJacob Wilson.
Those guys have all hit wellthis season across the league
there.
So the average is slowlystarting to come back, which I
love to see.
The power number is alsositting there.
Those are the guys that aresticking.
Now.
The Brewers are playing thatlost art of.

(45:46):
We don't really do it with thelong ball.
We do it with.
We hit for average, we findways to move guys, we get
infield hits.
We just put the ball in playand try to make things happen,
and they do.
And that is the question I wasasked and I want to get into
this a little bit later and Iwant to hear you guys' opinion
715-990-4914.

(46:07):
715-990-4914.
What has been going right forthe Brewers over this hot
stretch?
What has been going right thathas just led this team to where
they are now?
I'd love to hear what you guysgot to say and I want to tap
into that later on here in theshow.
But all in all, I mean just towrap up that last little part of
what I was talking about is Ilove to see these stats across

(46:30):
social media, the stats that wekeep.
You know the Brewers, they keepmaking history.
It's like all these stats justkeep coming out.
We're like, look, the Brewersare the first team to do this,
first team to do this.
The way that they're doing itis remarkable, I don't know.
I mean, you look at where thisteam was to start the year.
We were all.

(46:51):
I mean, if you were in the campof I have faith in this team,
they're gonna find a way.
It was like pat murphy wastelling us, right, they just
said maybe they're gonna be slowout of the gate and they'll get
going.
If you were in that camp kudos,kudos I will admit I was not.
I was sitting there tellingmyself this just feels like a
transition year.
It just feels like a team wheremaybe they were just I mean,

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this was built to be good enough, but not a playoff contender,
nothing crazy.
Little did I know, little didany of us know that all of a
sudden, once again, once again,and it's like I don't know why.
I just feel like we sit hereand we wait for the train to
fall off the tracks.
It's going to happen eventually, right?

(47:34):
We keep telling ourselves thatevery single year.
It's like, okay, we don't spendmoney, the train is going to
have to fall off the trackseventually.
This cannot sustain, right, andthat's what I mean.
That's what all these Cub fans,everything like that, because
Cub fans are trying to find,right, the way the Brewers play
the game isn't sustainable.
That's why they won't catch theCubs, that's why they won't

(47:55):
overtake the Cubs, and it's justthat same.
You know that same narrativeall the time, and I think that's
where Brewer fans kind of getit too is.
It's the same narrative everysingle year.
It's like this isn'tsustainable, right, we go out
and we make these moves.
Don't make sense at the time.
Quinn Priester, if you'resitting there telling me that
you thought at the time QuinnPriester was going to be what he

(48:15):
is now, I would call you crazy,because I don't think anybody
looked at that move and said,man, this guy is going to be a
stud man, he's just going to besomething.
Maybe Contreras when they madethat move, but no, not this move
, not the Quinn Priester move.
I could never say that AndrewVaughn, never in a million years
I don't care what you say Didanybody say, oh, Andrew Vaughn,

(48:39):
I get the change of sceneryright, what going from a
terrible situation in the WhiteSox to the Brewers can do for a
guy?
I will never not admit to thatbecause we've seen it firsthand
with a lot of guys.
But no way did you tell me thatAndrew vaughn was going to be
that guy.
That's the thing.

(48:59):
That's the thing is we we sithere and we're these opposing
fans, everything like that.
They sit there and they're likeman, this just isn't
sustainable.
They can't do it.
They can't continue this way.
They can't keep.
How do they keep fighting ways?
That's what I was talking aboutin that first segment of the
show is why I think the brewersare america's team is because

(49:20):
fans, as much as they're annoyedand this is where I want to
wrap it up, that first segmentas much as fans are annoyed with
the brewers because they wishtheir team could do that, and
the big market teams are annoyedwith the brewers because they.
They just don't want to be evenincluded with their name.
I think they're also sittingthere like, wow, wow, how is Pat
Murphy doing that?

(49:40):
How is this team finding a wayto beat the Dodgers six straight
, how?
It just doesn't make sense.
It rattles people's cages tohear that.
So, yeah, I want to talk moreBrewers later on in the show
here.
We're going to come back.
We're going to wrap up thefirst hour of the show here and

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then we're going to get to hournumber two.
We're going to have Umber stopby.
We're going to have Kyle stopby.
We're going to talk moreBrewers.
We can't wait to get to it.
So we'll be right back here onWisconsin Sports on the Go with
Trage.
We're going to wrap up the hourand then we're going to get to
Kyle and Umber and everythingelse on the backside at the
start of hour number two.
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top of the hour.
We're just talking brewersthere a little bit as we're
getting closer here to the topof the hour and I saw a lot of
rumors I guess you could say.
I think the fan was talkingabout it, I think 12, 50 the fan
.
I don't know what they'reexactly called there, um, but
they were talking about gettinga guy like ryan hesley, um, into
a brewer's uniform there.
And I've saw, I've seen a lotof these.

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You know I saw nolan arenado.
Somebody was talking aboutNolan Arenado potentially
becoming a brewer there.
I don't think I don't liketrading in division.
I don't think guys, I don'tthink teams really want to trade
in division.
Is it still a thing where youdon't want to trade to your
rival?
Do the Cardinals really want tohelp the brewers out?

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I don't know why.
Nolan Arenado would you wanthim right now?
241 average.
He's not having his best year.
He's been down.
He's still solid, but right nowCaleb Durbin's actually playing
himself to the point where.
Where do you want to put thebiggest?
And this is what I'm going tosay, and we're going to talk
more trade deadline stuff andeverything like that in the

(51:49):
future, maybe today, I don'tknow, we'll see what we get.
But the thing that kind of putsa monkey wrench into everything
for the Brewers Bryce Terang whyNot?
Because and I don't want tohear, oh, he's such a great
second baseman he is, he's agreat second baseman.
Why would you want to screwwith it?
Because he could also be agreat shortstop, the problem

(52:11):
being his arm, his stop.
The problem being his arm, hisshoulder gave out in the spring.
You can't have that happenagain mid-season.
So you can't just all of asudden slot Durbin over at
second, move Terang to short andhope that it all works out for
the best Joy of Teases comealive.
So it's kind of helped thatsituation.
But it's the Terang situationthat kind of hurts it.

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So we're going to get into moreBrewers here later on the show.
We're going to talk with umberhere about the package we got
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So, Kyle's jumping on Kyle.
How are we doing on thisWednesday?
I mean, it's been hot up herein the state of Wisconsin.
How's it going with you?

Speaker 3 (53:26):
I mean it's been good for me as well.
I mean down here in Atlantagoing through the same heat wave
that, like most of the country,is so cool.
As much as I can.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Right, it's a blast.
It is an absolute blast.
Right now.
I can feel I can feel myselflosing pant sizes right now,
which is okay, which is okay.
I can break out my summer pants, then I can break out the
summer pants, put the winterpants away for a little while
and so they got to pop back outhere when I put the winter
winter weight back on.
Right, you know, you get thatwinter weight on, keeps you warm
, keeps you warm.
That's what I like to tell thewife.
It keeps me warm.

(53:56):
So we got lots we want to getinto tonight here on the show.
But before we get there, kyleis always here.
We always do the mellow yellowminutes.
And tonight the question Kyle,classic ballpark foods ranked
according to MLBcom this list wewere looking at the break.

(54:16):
We're like we need to find aranking.
Right, we're looking at thebreak and we could not find a
list that was like more relevantthan I mean, except for really
specific foods from like 2021was where these lists this one
came from 2019, so it's prettygeneric food.
So, kyle, if you had to guess,in the top five according to
MLBcom back in 2019, what arethose most classic ballpark

(54:39):
foods if you had to guess?

Speaker 3 (54:42):
I mean, look, you hear so much about Dodger dogs,
I'm going to have to go with ahot dog.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Number three.
Number three on the list is thehot dog.
That's a good guess.
That's a good guess.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
I feel like another one Would have to be let's go
nachos.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Nachos.
I think they were on the list.
They did not crack into the topfive, though I think they might
have been number nine.
They were number nine in thetop ten.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Okay, I'm going to go into the top five, though I
think they might have beennumber nine.
They were number nine in thetop ten.
Okay, okay, um, well, I mean,if I'm gonna go maybe sweet
tooth here, let's go cottoncandy oh, cotton candy.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Did not make it on, did not make it up, but think
dessert.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
I do like the dessert idea think dessert well, I mean
, if it's not that, then I knowmost ballparks give you the
little helmet with some icecream that is, that is number
one on the list.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
The soft serve in the commemorative plastic helmet
that's what you gotta get.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
It's a staple you always gotta get that when you
go to the ballpark, right, right, how about popcorn?

Speaker 1 (55:49):
there's always that vendor selling popcorn popcorn
did not crack the top five, butthere is one.
It is similar to popcorn inthis top five.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Oh, I was going to say Cracker Jack, but I feel
like Cracker Jacks would fallenough.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Cracker Jacks made it number six.
They're number six on there.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
I didn't know, I wouldn't thought it was that
high Okay.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
It's in the song.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Pizza is not on this top five, but I would say pizza
would be somewhere on there thisone.
Think about the song Somethingand Cracker Jack.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
Oh duh Peanuts.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
There we go.
Peanuts is on there.
I don't think you'll get theseother two, so I'm going to throw
it out there.
Chicken Fingers came in atnumber five.
That's weird.
I didn't see the ChickenFingers coming on, and then the
Pretzel came in at number two.
That's probably going to be mynext guess.
There's some good pretzels outthere.
We have soft serve pretzel, hotdog, peanuts and chicken

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fingers.
That's what showed up in thetop five.
Probably the chicken fingersone was weird.
That's what I told Kyle.
I'm like I don't know if you'regoing to get number five
because chicken fingers that's aweird one.
I don't know.
Maybe if you would have saidchicken tenders maybe, but

(57:19):
chicken fingers was a weird oneto guess there.
So yeah, there's our top five.
There's our top five ballparkfoods, ranked there according to
mlbcom.
So, kyle, I want to talk aboutwe got the bucks in the news.
Not really well.
The whole nba is in the news,right, they ranked the front
offices in the nba anducs camein at number 24.
That I don't know if that makesme feel.
That makes me feel terrible, tobe honest with you, because
that makes me feel like nobodylooks at the Bucs and says these

(57:42):
guys, you know, I was readingthe description.
Why did they get this ranking?
And the thing that they said wasthe Bucs certainly get points
for creativity.
Time and time again theymanaged to pull a rabbit out of

(58:02):
a hat and briefly satisfy yannis100.
They got a little deal thatnobody was expecting.
Miles turner's now in town theydo all this stuff, but yet on
the back side of that, the draftcapital none, none to speak up,
trading that away.
And then we look at the draftpicks.
I the last solid pick.
I mean here's a couple guys whoare still up in the air right
now, but for superstardom, yes,that's it.
I mean how many busts do wehave to talk about?

(58:24):
I mean there's a lot of buststo talk about there with the
bucks there.
Kyle, so 24th kyle, do you doyou think that's a little low?
Do you think like that's kindof where the bucks are?
I mean, what does that tell youabout the Bucs in the front
office and the confidence thatif you were a Bucs fan, you have
in your team, because theoutsiders looking at you are
like man, these guys, they makesome questionable decisions.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
I mean I think it tells you kind of the phenom and
the luck with Giannis, becauseremember, when they took Giannis
, giannis was the scrawny kidplaying like third division
basketball in Greece, likenobody knew he was going to be
this.
So the fact that they hit onthat one pick they have been

(59:08):
relevant since Giannis, you know, became the superstar that he
is that says something aboutGiannis.
Now I understand the rankingbeing low, because the way you
mainly judge front offices is onthe draft and their ability to
kind of make deals.
But if you don't have any draftpicks going forward, it's hard

(59:31):
for you to do that.
So now your roster kind of getshamstrung, which I feel like
has been kind of an issue withthe Bucs.
Like you said, they'd have toget creative to really overhaul
the roster if they wanted to.
So I think the ranking makessense but, like I said, it does
definitely make Giannis look alot better.

(59:53):
That, with all this goingaround with the inability of the
front office to hit on draftpicks, like you said, the fact
that he's kept them relevantsays a lot about him.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yeah, no, and it's.
I agree with the ranking too,because you look at the bucks,
they don't control their firstround pick until 2030.
They have this Lillard deadmoney.
They went all-in on this teamthat we're going to talk about
in a minute here, but they'regoing all-in on this team that I
don't know if you'd call themthe misfits.
I like to call the Brewers themisfits.
Who was I talking about earlier?

(01:00:26):
The Badgers, Not the Brew doingall this stuff.
You're going all in on this team, but it just doesn't seem like
this team has enough to.
With a wide, open EasternConference with everybody
seemingly hurt, maybe they cancompete, but in all reality,

(01:00:51):
what are you doing against theteams in the West, an OKC and a
Rockets team.
Are you going to be able tobeat them with this roster
currently constructed?
I don't know about that one,unless if we see a lot of these
young guys take that next step.
Maybe then, but that's a bigquestion mark.
You're expecting guys like RyanRollins Porter to take over
there.
Cole Anthony coming in.
You got a lot of pieces aroundGiannis that you are excited

(01:01:14):
about, but they're notsuperstars.
They're not in that samecategory right now.
So that's kind of where I think,like you're saying, like I'm
saying, like CBS Sports istelling us here, the writers
there, that the Bucs are rankedso low because they don't have a
lot going for them from nowuntil the near future, until at
least 2030.

(01:01:35):
And that has a lot to do with.
Well, we're holding on toyannis and we're trying to make
him happy now.
So, yeah, it's, uh, it's aninteresting list here.
I saw the celtics came in kyleceltics.
They came up near top.
They were they number two onthat list, I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Yeah two, because the thunder had to be number one
thunder had to be number one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
I mean the moves that they've made and what they've
done here Just right now,getting Shea Gildress signed
back up and everything like that.
I mean they've made moves, thetrades that they've made.
How many first-round picks Idon't even know what the list is
anymore because I saw at onepoint it was a ridiculous amount
of first-round picks that theywere going to have.

(01:02:12):
And they still have them, likethey have all the talent they
have right now and they stillhave a boatload of first round
picks.
To even talk like if I'm thebucks hypothetical world don't
call me crazy if you want, butif the thunder were to offer me,
I don't know five years offirst round picks, maybe or
something crazy for a guy likeyann, is it?
I mean, is here's my question?

(01:02:36):
Giannis is a superstar.
He means the world to Milwaukee.
I love Giannis, but here's mybut, here's my but moment.
I thought the Celtics loved, youknow, the Paul Pierce years and
everything like that and theyhad to move on.
Eventually they moved on andthey went out and they got picks
and they did all this and lateron they grabbed guys like Jason

(01:02:59):
Tatum, jalen Brown.
They built this thing from theground up.
Look at the Warriors.
They got Steph, they got Clay,they drafted these guys all
together.
They built them up.
The Bucs don't do that, theydon't have that ability and they
keep strapping themselves yearafter year after year.
I I'm speaking, I don't know ifit's an outside perspective.

(01:03:19):
I hate espn and I can't hateespn.
I hate the analysts at espn.
Right, because they do thissilly thing where they tell us
oh, yannis has got to leave,he's got to leave, he's got to
leave.
I don't think he has to and Idon't think he wants to.
But I mean, kyle, is it crazyto say that the bucks might be
like the best option would be tomove on from Giannis, because
that is all they have toactually offer at this point

(01:03:40):
outside of.
Well, we can throw some youngguys out there, but who the heck
is going to give you a bunch offirst round picks or whatever,
an equal pay or an equal guy, ifyou don't give them a Giannis,
if you don't give them a deallike that?
Kyle, I mean, is it crazy tothink that the number one option
for the Bucs would be to moveon from Giannis, like if it came
to it where you're, I meanyou're just down in the dumps

(01:04:02):
anyways, you might as well cutties right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Yeah, no, I think.
Unfortunately, if the Bucs findthemselves in a position where
they become stagnant, you knowconstantly, like a 5-6 seed
early round exit in the playoffs, that's a conversation that the
Bucs will have to have, becauseyou can't really move anybody

(01:04:26):
else and drastically change yourfortunes unless you move
Giannis.
And the worry would be, if youmoved Giannis, even to an
Oklahoma City, sure you may getfive years' worth of first-round
picks, but where would thosepicks be?
Because the Thunders seem likethey're going to be good for the
foreseeable future unless youget, you know, because they do

(01:04:47):
have a lot of picks that theygot from other teams.
So if you get some of thosepicks you might look at it a
little bit better.
But yeah, that's going to besomething that's going to be
interesting to see over the nextcouple of years.
What did the Bucks do withGiannis?
Does Giannis become tired ofdragging a team necessarily just

(01:05:10):
to be a fifth seed and lose inthe first, the second round and
not really be close to a title?
If that's what happens, thenyeah, you have to do that,
because in the NBA you eitherhave to be top four seed title
contender or bottom out torebuild, whatever the next

(01:05:33):
iteration of your team lookslike you don't want to be in the
middle.
It's the worst place to be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yeah, I think that's where they are.
I hate to be that unoptimistic,I hate to be that guy.
But I'm looking at this roster.
I like the roster.
I think they have a lot ofinteresting pieces.
I think they have a lot of guyswho could do something.
But you're also at the pointwhere you're like, okay, I hope
AJ Green develops into thisalmost dang near like a Clay

(01:05:58):
Thompson kind of guy for thisBucs team.
You're hoping that a Porterends up being your.
I mean, I don't know like theway that you're describing it.
It's like a LeBron dragging theCavs right, dragging the Cavs,
or dragging whoever they wouldsay right To the finals there.
And it's like Giannis dragginga team.
Okay, so who needs to comealong?
Right, you need your Kyrie, youneed your Kevin Love, you need

(01:06:20):
your Tristan Thompson.
Well, you got a star in MilesTurner, so you got that star.
Now it's like, who can comealong with this team?
Who can develop into that star?
Who can develop to be that guy?
Aj Green's got a darn goodshooting ability.
Can he develop into being amain cog in this offense, into I
don't know if he's going to bequite be what they thought chris
middleton was to this team.
But can he develop into thatkind of shooter?

(01:06:42):
Can porter develop into maybeeven a shell of what drew
holiday was right?
I mean they that if you look atthat finals run team, you look
at this team.
I'm not going to say that it'sthat close, but but it's.
It's eerily similar.
Drew holiday, coming in, wasn'texpected to be this star.
Chris middleton was pretty darngood player.
But if you can get guys to justdevelop in this system, maybe

(01:07:06):
we're looking at it from anoutside perspective saying, well
, we don't have the flashy names, but you could get the talent
in there just because they comealong with Giannis there.
So I mean I, I'm interested tosee it.
I'm not saying to trade Giannis, I'm not trading Giannis today,
I'm not trading Giannis beforethe season.
But what I'm saying is and likeyou're saying at some point,
potentially down the road here,because you are talking about a

(01:07:26):
team who doesn't control a firstround pick until 2030 and it
seems like every time they wantto make a trade, they're always
offering this, that next pickthat they can offer.
It's like, okay, we're tradingfurther back, we're not gonna
have a first round pick foryears.
It just seems like we'regetting further and further away
from when it seems like thebucks could potentially maybe
rebuild, get this thing settleddown, build a core, because

(01:07:49):
right now you're just arevolving door.
That's all that they are.
They're a're a revolving door.
You're like a pit stop for guysat this point here and then
they go get a different contractsomewhere else.
So where do the Bucs end up?
I think that's what we're kindof interested to see here.
So, kyle, I mean I had onequestion for you, so we just
rolled 15 minutes.
I'm like goodness gracious.

(01:08:09):
We had a couple other things Iwant to touch, but we're not
going to get to them today.
We'll get to them next weekhere.
But I want to ask you so there'sa lot of talk Ajax, he's been
up and down in Summer League.
It hasn't been pretty at timesit's rough to watch.
But how much stock do you throwinto Summer League?
I mean we saw Chris Livingston.
He earned himself a contractcoming off of Summer League

(01:08:30):
there for the Bucs.
He got a $2.3 million deal.
That was awesome to see.
I mean they waved him and thenthey signed him back.
So that was cool to see forChris Livingston.
He's been playing darn good forthe Bucs in the Summer League.
But how much stock do you putin?
Because Ajax, he's also playingfor that kind of contract right
now and Ajax looked good lastyear defensively, but also when

(01:08:50):
you play on a team full of abunch of slow guys, it could
also make you look better too,defensively.
So how much stock are youputting into a summer league
game team?
Whatever you want to say there,should we?

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
be worried about Ajax , I guess, is what I'm trying to
say.
I mean, look, the summer league.
I feel like it's not theend-all be-all.
Obviously it's kind of yourrookies.
It gets them the first chanceto get on the court in your
system, because most obviouslysummer league teams are coached
by the G League coach, who runssimilar to the pro team, so that

(01:09:26):
I feel like it's good forrookies just to work off some of
the rest of the college season.
That's fine.
Now some of these rosters havelike second and third year guys.
I don't know if it means themost to them, but in this case
Anandre Jackson is a guy who atthis point you want to see him

(01:09:47):
factoring into that guardrotation, small forward rotation
.
So right now he'd probably besitting behind, possibly like
Cole Anthony who might be whocan play the point and play the
two.
He'd probably come off thebench right now.
So can Jackson kind of carveout a role as like a two and

(01:10:08):
maybe Cole is just your backuppoint guard?
You have Torian Prince as yourbackup to Kuzma.
Can Andre Jackson take someminutes there?
Now?
If he had a strong summerleague you might feel better
about giving him a largerworkload, but the fact that he
struggled.
I'm not going to write him offbecause of that, because he can

(01:10:32):
get into training camp and lookmuch better.
He can get into the preseasonand look better and I feel like
that would mean more than arough performance in the summer.
In the summer, most of theseguys are just kind of working on
stuff, so they may not play thebest but preseason.
I would put more stock intothat.
If he's still struggling in thepreseason, I would be more

(01:10:54):
worried, I'm back.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
I'm back, we're good, we're good.
Oh goodness gracious, I think Ilost it there for a second.
Kyle, can you hear me?
Yes, oh wait, hold on, hold on.
I think I lost myself there.
I lost Kyle.
It's been a hectic night here.
The audio has been all kinds ofgoofy here on us.
It has just been ridiculous.
Let me see if I can get thisfigured out here.

(01:11:19):
Kyle, you can hear me, but Ican't hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Yes, Did your mic get muted?
Kyle no.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
My mic is still working.
Oh goodness gracious.
This is silly here.
So we're going to hit a quickbreak.
We're going to come back on thebackside here.
I don't know what the heck justhappened here, but we're going
to come back here.
We're going to get into somebrewers.
We're going to get into somepackers.
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Just tapping into the lastsegment there, I had a couple
people who commented in andthey're like wow you're trading
Giannis away from the Bucs.
You're trading Giannisis awayfor the bucks.
You're trading yannis away fromthe bucks.
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We weren't saying to tradeyannis away from the bucks in
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be a guy like Giannis.
So that's why it's always inthe back of people's heads
talking about it Now, am Itrading him?
No, I'm not trading himtomorrow.
I'm not trading him tomorrow.
I'm not trading him going intonext season.
I'm probably not trading him onafter next season.
But I think it's a conversationlike kyle said.
You know, in that last segmentthere that might have to happen
at some point.
We'll just wait and see.
Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't.
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We'll kind of see what happensthere.
But I want to switch gears here.
I want to get to the Packers,because training camp started up
today.
I didn't get to see any of thehighlights from it.
Like you guys know, I'mprerecorded so I didn't get to
see any highlights from there.
We'll talk about what we sawhere in the opening day of
training camp here coming upnext week and then we'll talk
about you know, they had goingThursday, friday, sunday and
then Monday and the nextWednesday they'll have another

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practice there.
So so in this Packers talktoday, I want to get to first
off Zach Tom signed that massiveextension there with the
Packers and this was a contractthat we've been waiting for.
We've been waiting to see whatwould happen here.
He's going to get a hugesigning bonus $30.2 million

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signing bonus on top of this $88million four-year $88 million
extension that he got there.
That is going to 30 mil isgoing to be a signing bonus and
then it could have theopportunity to get up to 92
million.
So that is a massive deal.
But looking at what it does,just looking at them as a tackle
right, he settled in a righttackle there.
But this is a grouping thatthey made of tackles across the

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league and you look at some ofthese guys so all tackles in
terms of AAV, so basically theleague, and you look at some of
these guys so all tackles interms of av.
So they're basically theirannual average.
What they're going to make theirtristan wirfs leads the
grouping with from the tampabuccaneers at 28.12 mil, then
you have seawall there, from thelions 28.
Trant williams at 27.
You work your way down the list.
Right lane johnson from theeagles 25.

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Laramie tonsil from the texansmakes 25 there.
Andrew thomas makes Looks likeright now Zach Tom.
He's set to make 22.
They were projecting him aroundthat 25 ranking but now he's
sitting there at 22.
He's in that tie for ninthright now with Jordan Malata of
the Eagles there.
There's eight people ahead ofhim there on the list.
Now, not all of those.

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A majority of those guys areactually left tackles, not
exactly right tackles there.
But the Packers are paying him$3 million less than the Eagles
are paying Johnson and $6million less than what the Lions
are giving Seawol right now.
Zach Tom's a pretty darn goodtackle there.
So to get a guy with hisskillset, a younger guy, for

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it's a steal of a contract, ifyou ask me.
That's darn good day at theoffice right there and I'm glad
it got done.
Now the question and this is thequestion that was asked across
social media everywhere was howdoes this affect elton jenkins?
Because elton jenkins has beenwaiting for a deal.

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Now we see Zach Tom gets signedup.
So what does this do to EltonJenkins?
And Rob Domosky came on thereand he said he's told that this
doesn't impact the Elton Jenkinssituation whatsoever one way or
another.
It sounds like the Packers wantto talk, but possibly not till
later in the season, after hesettled in at center.

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It's really going to beinteresting to see, like he said
there, what Jenkins has got tosay about that as he reports to
camp.
But now he sees Zach Tom getsigned up and Jenkins is like
well, you guys tell me howimportant I am.
Brian Goodikens said howimportant Elton Jenkins was
and's leadership and everythinglike that and getting them into

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the fold.
And now they're like oh well,we're going to wait until
possibly in the season, did they?
I?
I would have to imagine, and Idon't know this, but I mean he's
switching positions for him.
He's doing all this for him.
He just wants to have someinsurance.

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I do you make a move like thiswithout Jenkins really being
okay with it, because you areexpecting Jenkins to switch
roles and do all this for youand you know beyond this
contract that he's currently on.
Do you do you did you make theZach tomu without him knowing,
because now it's going toirritate him a little bit, so
he's going to want to get hisdeal made now.

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What does?
The question is and this is theweird part is like, when you
tell me that you want to waituntil he settles in at center,
you're basically telling me thatyou think elton jenkins still
has to prove himself.
What does he have to prove?
He's been darn good, he's oneof the one of your better
offensive linemen in in totaland he's got the
multi-positional ability.
What does he have to prove toyou?

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Because if he doesn't cut it atcenter, then you can move him
back out.
This seems like a to me, and Icould be wrong.
This seems like a.
Oh well, elton is good, we havelike a Monk in there and we
have Felton and we have JordanMorgan.
What if those guys turn out tobe pretty good, then we could

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save some money, right, likethey're hoping with Rashid
Walker, because Rashid Walker isgoing to end up leaving, I
guarantee that.
But it's like, oh well, we cansave some money now.
Not sign Elton Jenkins to thisbig contract extension.
Does it feel like the Packersare being kind of penny pitchers
right now Because they like todo this Now?

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They've waited with guys to youknow, in season to make a
contract.
It was a Buc-D-R.
They didn't sign until like inDecember, there, I believe.
But I mean they've waitedbefore, not saying it'd be crazy
if they did it that way.
But it just feels like when youmake a comment like that after
telling us how important he was,and now the comment that Rob's
hearing is oh well, they aregoing to wait until in season, I

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don't know, it wouldn't sitright with me if I was Jenkins,
because I'm like, oh well they.
It wouldn't sit right with meif I was Jenkins Because I'm
like, well, they think I have tosettle in at center, like I'm
not going to be able to do it,like they don't have the utmost
confidence in me, that whatthey've seen out of me so far
there's tape on them already.
It's the controversy.
We didn't want heading intotraining camp.
We might have I don't know ifit's going to be there, I don't

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know.
I didn't see any other reportsfrom elton or like well, is he
upset?
Is he not upset?
What?
What's it gonna look like?
Do they get a deal done?
I think it's hard to tell now.
I I would think they would geta deal done, but man it just.
It was a weird.
I saw the announcement rightaway and I looked at I was like

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pack your sign and I was likePackers sign.
I was like, oh, it's going tobe the Elton Jenkins.
Then I kept reading and it'sZach Tom.
I was like before EltonInteresting, we thought the Zach
Tom deal was going to happen.
We knew that was going to happenat some point.
The $22 million also savesmoney on the cap too Well, and
the $30 million signing bonusthere is going to help a lot in
saving some of the cap here forthe Packers and allowing them to

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have more to move around.
Maybe that helps with the EltonJenkins extension.
We'll wait and see what happensthere as we get into training
camp here.
Maybe he settles into centerhere in training camp and they
make the move.
I don't know.
Just a weird, a weird commentand I'd love to hear what you
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I'd love to hear what you guysthink about the Zach Tom deal
and Elton Jenkins and what doyou guys think.
You know you think EltonJenkins is good with it.
What do we think is going tohappen there?
It's going to be interesting tosee and we'll wait and see once
we get into training camp here.
But I have some of the battles.
I know training camp startedtoday, but I have some of the
battles, the position battles,that I'm excited to see.
I wanted to go through themhere on the show today.

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So my number one that I listedon there and this is, I mean,
last year was kind of in thatsame boat here.
But the offensive line it'sgoing to be Sean Ryan and Jordan
Morgan, I believe, battling itout for that right guard spot.
Morgan, high draft pick, draftpick.
Ultimately, I believe thePackers want to go with him,

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most likely because there isanother one.
So Rasheed Walker and JordanMorgan battling it out for the
left tackle spot.
I think that most, the mostlikely outcome is Walker's going
to get the spot.
He's going to get the spot here, and then we're going to see,
and then he's going to goelsewhere for a big contract.
So I think he's going to getthe spot here and then we're
going to see, and then he'sgoing to go elsewhere for a big
contract.
So I think he's going to getthe spot this year for his last
season.
I think he's going to goelsewhere.
Packers with that are going toget a comp pick out of it.

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So I think they're going to beokay with it.
I think Rasheed Walker is goingto earn his spot at left tackle
.
I think, if anything, jordanMorgan's going to be.
So I'm interested to see thatbattle between Sean Ryan and
Jordan Morgan for that rightguard spot and to see if Jordan
Morgan can earn that spot.
My running back two is also oneof my opposition battles I

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can't wait to watch.
Manuel Wilson had a pretty darngood year last year.
Chris Brooks was solid andMarshawn Lloyd coming back off
injury last season.
I think Wilson will be my pickat the moment.
He's got the big sample size.
Uh, we've seen it and he wasimpressive.
He impressed last year, sowe'll see what he does this year
.
Marshawn has the most approvedbecause we just didn't see it.
We don't know what he's.
I mean we, we know what he wasabout in college.

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We saw the tape.
We know what he was about atthe combine.
We saw a little bit last seasonbut we just haven't seen
Marshawn prove it to us yet.
So he's got the most approved.
Chris Brooks was a great runblocker.
He's got the most approval.
Chris Brooks was a great runblocker.
He's a great blocker in generalthere.
So Chris Brooks would be a hardguy to watch.
I think the Packers couldrealistically carry four running
backs.
I really do.
I really do think they could.

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Will they?
I don't know, but could theysee it?
Yes, I think they would hate tosee any one of these guys go
elsewhere.
Really, I think they would.
One of these guys go elsewhere,right, really I think they
would.
I mean Emmanuel Wilson's solidChris Brooks I mean he's been a
good blocker, he's solid in therun game and then a guy like
Marshawn Lloyd with his abilitythat they think they see.

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What could that all look like?
So I could see him possiblycarrying four.
We'll see what kind of happensthere.
Wide receiver room is going tobe interesting.
Who's going to be number six?
They got to five.
I think the five are figuredout Dobbs, wicks, reed, golden,
savion.
Those are going to be your five.
Who moves into that six spotuntil Watson returns, which
could be at any point?
I mean it could be week nine,it could be week eight, I don't

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know.
He's had a crazy recovery time,it could be at any point really
.
But until he returns, who's atleast going to be six?
Could they carry seven, I don'tknow.
But who's going to be in thatnumber six spot?
Heath, hardman, bo Milton?
I know they signed up WillShepard there and they're going
to have some other young guysthat they can kind of float
around.
I think most of them arepractice squad guys.
So I'm looking at those three.
I like Bo Milton, I like BoMelton, I like Heath for that

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fact, but I think it's reallygoing to be Hardman.
I really do Hardman to me he'sgot a lot of versatility and
flexibility.
He's got the ability to go outthere and be a return man.
He can be a gadget guy for you.
We've seen that before.
So I think Hardman is going tobe the option for him there.
But I can't wait to see howthis one kind of battles it out

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there.
There's a couple more.
I don't really we don't reallyneed to dive too deep into them
there.
But the defensive end positionwho's going to be the number
three and number four?
Who's going to be behind LucasVan Ness and Rashawn Gary this
next season?
Agabar, sorrell, colin Oliverand Brenton Cox Jr you have the
two young guys there in Soreland Colin Oliver, and then you

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have Brenton Cox Jr and Agabari,oliver and Sorel the new guys.
Sorel is more of the defensiveend, oliver is more of that.
He's got that versatility to bemore of an off-ball linebacker.
So it's going to be interestingto see what they kind of do
with him.
Brenton Cox and Agabari thoseguys are the I don't know.
That's going to be aninteresting battle.
So that's one to keep an eye onas we go through training camp

(01:25:55):
here.
And I'm interested to see inthe first couple days of
training camp some of the talkcoming out of there.
Stackhouse and Brinson battlingfor that nose tackle spot there
.
Cornerback room who's going tobe number four?
The boundary corner?
Hayden, it's going to be either.
Hayden, it's going to be.
We can see Hayden filling inthere.
Robinson King or Melton King isprobably looking like more of a
nickel corner.

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So this is going to be aninteresting one.
This position group makes menervous.
So this is going to be aninteresting one.
Who's going to be that numberfour?
Because I think you know onethrough three.
But who's going to be CB1?
Nixon says he's going to beHobbs, sounds like he could be
and Valentine has to prove it.
So who's going to be cornerbackone?

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I don't even think we know thatyet, but I think we know who's
going to be in the top three.
I just don't think we knowwho's going to be number one
when it's all said and donethere.
So that's going to be aposition group.
I'm watching as we get trainingcamp underway here.
Safety spot between Bullard andWilliams.
We know McKinney's going to beone.
Evan Williams kind of proved itlast year.
The weird part now is Bullard.
He spent a lot of time in theslot but with Hobbs now in there

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and Valentine the otherboundary corner with Nixon.
That leaves Bullard kind of inthe background.
So where does Bullard kind offit in?
I think Bullard's going to bean odd one.
Where does he fit in with hisdefense?
I'm interested one.
Where does he fit in with hisdefense?
I interested to see what theydo with him.
And then the linebacker fourspot.
There's probably some moreposition groups everybody's
watching, but these are the onesI'm watching.
That linebacker four spot weknow mcduffie is going to be.

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Probably he's going to be thethree.
We know cooper and quay aregoing to be one and two.
Who's going to fill into thatfour spot?
Christian welch, tyron hopper,isaiah Simmons, yvonne Johnson
I'm interested to see Simmonsthe hybrid getting in there in a
linebacker spot.
I think he was in a badsituation over the years there.
Now getting him into Green Bay,I think he's going to be in a

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good spot here.
Christian Welch is anotherexciting guy.
This is going to be a groupingI'm watching too.
I like Isaiah Simmons in there.
I really hope that he can findsome footing in Green Bay here.
Simmons in there, I really hopethat he can find some footing
in Green Bay here.
He's got a bowl of talent.
It's just about getting it outof him there.
So I'm interested to see thisgrouping here as training camp
gets started.
But those are some of theposition groups that I'm most
interested in as we're startingup training camp here and next

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week when Umber's back Umber'son vacation he was hoping to get
on tonight.
Here he's on vacation.
He was hoping to get on tonight.
We tried it with his phone.
It wasn't working.
It was worse than the lastsegment there with Kyle when we
completely lost each other atthe end.
It was worse than that.
Umbers was static.
He was all over the place.
So he's like well, we tried, wetried.
He's going to come back on nextweek.

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Here we're going to talkPackers.
We're going to talk trainingcamp.
We're going to talk moreBrewers on the backside.
Here we're going to get youready for the upcoming series,
the upcoming weekend.
Here we're going to get you allkinds of Brew Talk when we come
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It's like ah, I hope you guysare enjoying your night here
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here.
We talked about them in thefirst hour of the show.
Just, I mean some of thecraziness going around social
media of oh, this team's justlucky, this and that and
everything in between.
And now I want to get to thediscussion of.

(01:31:38):
Okay, I mean I was just talkingabout Kyle with this earlier on
.
I said it's so hard to talkabout sports right now.
He's like yeah, I know, I agreethere's nothing really
happening.
And I said it doesn't help thatthe Brewers are winning
baseball games too, because whatdo you complain about?
You know, like early on thisyear it was like okay, what do
you do to replace Joey Ortiz?
And now, at this point, I meanI know people are like, oh well,

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what we saw early on was notgreat, and now maybe this is
just a fluke.
You could say that you couldsay it's been a fluke, but over
the last seven games, a .333average.
Over the last 15, .244, overthe last
30, sitting, .273.
If you look at what he's beenable to do over this last
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when you looked earlier on,early on this season, you could
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the outside.
But when you looked at himyou're like he's a darn good
defender, I think, on theoutside.
But when you looked at himyou're like he's darn good, but
he hasn't shown it yet.
And he's good but he's notgreat.
And then all of a sudden it waslike okay, now I think he's
pretty good.
And then it was, oh, now he'sgreat.
And that's the transition thathe's taken.
And as his defenses come along,so is his offense.

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And now you look at this guyhe's well-rounded, he's putting
it all together and you justlove
to see it.
So the way Joy Ortiz hasprogressed and you look at guys
even like Caleb Durbin we'reright away looking at him it was
like I don't know about CalebDurbin.
Is he an everyday third baseman?
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I think he's a.
He still is, but he's beenfantastic for the Brewers.

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Everything that they've neededout of Caleb Durbin he's done
the walk-offs.
He's had a couple of different,I think.
What has he had?
Threewalk-offs this season.
So far he's been nothing butimpressive for the Brewers.
And you look at him over thislast stretch of games he's
hitting .409.
Over the last seven Last 15,he's hitting .326.
Over the last 30 he's hitting351.

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He's been unreal for thebrewers.
And then doing all of this,this whole stretch of games.
Sal frelick's been hurt.
He's actually expected to beback in the brewers lineup on
friday.
He has some tests he has topass first, but he's expected to
be back on the field on friday.
So that's unreal there.
Uh, he's got.
I mean he had bp on the fieldyesterday so he's been hitting
the ball.
Now he's said.
He was, I think, jogging at 60%just the other day, so I mean
he's progressing well.

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So you're going to get a guylike Sal Freilich back.
Hoskins will come backeventually.
Jake Bowers I saw that he had awhatchamacallit there, a
cortisone injection in theshoulder over the all-star break
, so he's expected like amid-August return.
I did not know that washappening with Jake Bowers there
.
Nestor Cortez is scheduled tothrow 90 pitches and then he's

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going to be back.
That's supposed to be his finalrehab start.
So we'll see what kind ofhappens with Nestor there.
Maybe they move him, I don'tknow.
And then Connor Thomas hadsurgery on Wednesday, so he's
going to be Connor Thomasbasically.
But that'syour injury report update there.
But looking at what they'vebeen able to do in these last
stretch of games with all thenames that I know, nester cortez

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isn't a big name.
But when you really, when yourealistically look back on it,
nester cortez was supposed to bea big part of what this was at
the start of the year.
Now it's.
Now you've got national mediatalking about this team and
where they're at and saying thisteam has the potential to be a
world series team, and there'ssome people that I saw.
They're like this is a darkhorse, this is.

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The brewers are a team thatcould win the world series.
They are going to win the world.
I've seen a lot of peoplepredicting the brewers to win
the world series now because andyou look at it,
name a better right now.
Right now, if you had to lookacross the MLB at rotations, who
in their right mind would wantto face Freddy Peralta, brandon

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Woodruff and Jacob Mizorowski?
Nobody, nobody wants to facethose three, that three-headed
monster, at this point.
That's a lot of gas, that's alot of nastiness.
That's a lot of gas.
That's a lot of nastiness,that's a lot.
I mean brandon woodruff what hedid the other night to the
mariners, what he did to thatmariners team the other night

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therewatching that, that was
masterful.
The limited amount of pitch, Imean the limited amount of
pitches, I mean the limitedamount of pitches it took for
Brandon Woodruff to work throughthat Mariners lineup and still,
I mean just he dealt Likethat's.

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All you can say is six innings,two hits, nothing across the
board, five strikeouts, 62pitches and 42 of them were
strikes.
And he went six innings and Iknow everybody's like.
Well, why did he only go six.
Pat Murphy's working this pitchcount with him.
Him and Mizorowski are both onthis pitch limit kind of thing
right nowand that's fine.

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That's fine.
The Brewers have enough longrelief at this point that they
can afford that.
With Aaron Ashby being out inthe bullpen and pitching well,
and so is DL Hall, they have theability to to wait.
But I mean that three-headedmonster, the bullpen, pitching
well, you have your rebate backthere.
Canning's been iffy but NickMears has been solid, and then

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you got a guy like Trevor McGillat the back end.
I think if you're going to addanywhere in the pitching right
now, I'd be okay with thebullpen.
I'd be okay with gettinganother high leverage arm in the
bullpen.
There wouldn't hurt at all.
Maybe you see I've seen thetalk of mizorowski going out to
the bullpen.
I'd hate to see that becauseI'd love to have him in a
playoff series in a start.
But maybe you see a guy likehim with the bullpen and logan

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henderson come back up.
That'd be interesting.
A chad patrick, I mean.
You realistically look at whatthe brewers have in the minors
for a?
Uh, starting rotation down inthe minors right now with a
nester cortez, with a tobiasmyers, with a uh logan henderson
down there, with chad patrickdown there, and then you have
aaron ashby and uh deal hall,who are currently working as

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long relievers.
At the moment you have AaronAshby and Adiel Hall, who are
currently working as longrelievers.
At the moment you have a CarlosRodriguez.
You have Robert Gasser workinghis way back, the Brewers
rotation.
They have a lot of startingpitching.
Let's go with that so theymight have the ability to move
guys around.
I'm not saying they can't, butthe three-headed monster that
you could have to face in aplayoff series with Mizorowski,

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with Woodruff, with Peralta,back-to-back-to-back that's wild
.
That is a crazy, crazy setup tohave to deal with.
And then you still have aveteran in Jose Quintana.
If you don't see a guy like himmove, maybe a guy like Nestor
Cortez move.
I am all in.
If the Diamondbacks call forpitching and they say we'll give
you Suarez for pitching, I'mstill making that move.
I'm still making that move.

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I know Caleb Dermott's beensolid.
I'm not saying he hasn't.
Maybe you can move a dirt.
It's so.
Like I mentioned earlier on inthe show, Bryce Terang is
hindering deals.
Why you ask?
Because Bryce Terang's shoulderexcuse me there, his shoulder
and the inability of hisshoulder to be able to sustain

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at shortstop, as we heardearlier on this season and you
hate to have that pop back up isa big reason why the Brewers
can't make a move for a thirdbaseman.
Because then what do you dowith Caleb Dermott?
Do you move him over to secondbase?
Then, if you move him, terang'sgot to move.
And then it's like, okay, wheredo you move pieces around?
You can't sit there like that.
You can't sit there.
And oh, we can't move this guybecause of this.

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If you get a right third baseman, you just got to make that move
and then whoever else just gotto fill into a DH role and then
maybe you have to move.
A guy like Mielic Just got toplay more in the outfield
because you need to have Durbinin the lineup or whoever it is
because they need to hit Georgia.
T's coming along, so it makesit all a little bit different to
talk about.
Everybody's got their ownperspective on.
Do you mess with it at thispoint?
But right now I mean right nowthe Hoopa and everything it's

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awesome to see the nationalmedia.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
That's all I'm saying .

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
It's awesome to see the national media putting the
Brewers in that kind of lightright now, saying that they are
100% a World Series contenderright now and saying that they
can compete with the best of thebest and they're doing it.
I mean, you look at thisBrewers team and their record
against teams with 500 recordand above they're 32-22 right

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now, a record of equal to orabove 500.
They have the best record inbaseball.
They have the best record inbaseball.
They have the best record inbaseball.
But they have the best recordin baseball.
Through that stretch and youlook at this stat blew my mind
of this team the Brewers startedwith a negative 32 run

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differential.
So that's your differencebetween run scores and runs
allowed.
If you didn't know.
Negative 32 run differential.
So that's your differencebetween run scores and runs
allowed.
If you didn't know.
Negative 32 run differential.
That set an MLB record for theworst start ever by an MLB team.
Now they have the third bestrun differential at plus 91.
So since that start of theseason there, since that first

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four games over the last 95games, they have a plus 123 run
differential.
Wow, that's that mind-blowing.
When I read that I was like,wow, that is a change of pace
right there.
That is an absolute change ofpace right there, right there.

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That is an absolute change ofpace right there.
So, all in all, the nationalmedia loves this Brewers team
right now.
I'm loving what I'm seeing onthis Brewers team right now.
There is not a whole lot not tolike about what's going on with
the Brewers right now, and theygot this stretch right now.
So they got the Mariners.
They're going to wrap up theseries with the Mariners.
As you guys know, I'mprerecorded so I don't know the
outcome of Wednesday's game here, but they're going to wrap up

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this series with the Marinershere and then they're going to
head back home.
So they're going to end thislittle West Coast road trip.
It'd be sweet to end it with asweep here.
To end it with a sweep.
I don't know what happened inthe Tuesday night or the
Wednesday night.
It I don't know what happenedin the Tuesday night or the
Wednesday night.
I think it's just a late gametoo, so I'm recording before
anything.
So just so you guys know there,but it'd be sweet if this ended
up as a sweep over road trip.
Then they come back home, theyhave the Marlins and then they

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have the Cubbies.
You got a couple couple serieshere.
So you have the Mariners andthen you got the Marlins, you
got the, have those games andyou just look down this list of
teams that they play for theremainder of the year.
I don't think I have a serieswhere I'm looking at it and I'm

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like the Brewers are, they'retotally out of that series.
What they did to the Dodgershas shown me that this team
they're not what they were atone point.
This feels like a special year.
This feels like a special teamand I know it's a cliche, right,
a lot of times we've said thisthat this feels like a special
year.
It just I mean, you watch thisteam.

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Yelich, his 26th game on basestreak, as of Saturday there was
the longest he's had since his30 that he had in his MVP season
.
It's just you look at statslike that.
You look at what they've beenable to do.
You look at this pitching staff.
You look at Matt Arnold andhe's like there's no reason for
the Brewers to trade FreddiePeralta at this point here.

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So we know Peralta is mostlikely not on the move.
He said you're never going toclose that door, right, because
he can't say that after whatwe've pastor a Josh Ader move
right, some crazy stuff likethat has happened in the past.
So he's not going to closedoors but he's telling us like
it'd be crazy to do somethinglike that.
We're not going to completelyshut that door but we're not
thinking about that at thispoint because there's no reason
for it right now.

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You're in a race right now.
Right now you're one of thebest teams in baseball and the
power rankings You're number onewhere you deservedly should be.
You just got done sweeping theDodgers twice.
You just beat the Nationals.
In between that you're on thisburner right now.
Why would you do anything?
This Brewer baseball has got meexcited right now.
I hope all you guys are excitedtoo, because Brewer baseball

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just has me absolutely ecstaticright now.
We got this series coming upthis weekend with the Marlins
and then we're going to betaking out the Cubs coming up
next week here.
Can't wait to watch a couple ofgreat series there and come
back, hopefully next week.
We're talking about a boatloadof wins and what the heck the
Brewers are going to do here aswe get closer to the trade
deadline, because there's somemoves to be made.
I think there's moves to bemade.
If I'm the Brewers I amdefinitely.

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I don't think you can sit pat.
I don't think you can.
You have to go out and makemoves.
If you're the Brewers, you havethis plethora of starting
pitching.
There's teams out there whoneed starting pitching.
The Blue Jays need startingpitching.
The Blue Jays could be a tradepartner.
Diamondbacks have been a tradepartner in the past.
You can look at theDiamondbacks and say, hey, what

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are you guys willing to offerback for maybe a guy like Jose
Quintana?
For maybe a guy like a ChadPatrick?
For a young pitcher, tobiasMyers?
What are you guys willing tooffer back?
There's a lot of moves that canbe made and I think the Brewers
have to jump on them.
I really do.
I think the Brewers have tojump on them here coming up,
because is it sustainable?
Like we talked about earlier,is the way the Brewers play

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sustainable?
I think so, but I don't thinkit's going to hurt to add pieces
to it.
So we're going to come back here.
We're going to wrap up the showfor the day here.
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