June 29, 2025 • 40 mins
In this episode of Wisdom on the Front Porch, LS Kirkpatrick welcomes Dina Marais to discuss her work with Soul Purpose Publishing and other ventures. They delve into Human Design, Gene Keys, and the power of rewriting life stories. Dina shares her career transition inspired by "The Alchemist" and reflects on her ideal clients, highlighting the concept of a book as a business card. The conversation explores discovering purpose, the significance of self-love, and shifting from a victim mindset to a creator self. They touch on presence, control, meditation, and releasing negative memories. The episode concludes with contact details and a sponsor message.
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Alright.
Welcome to another episode on wisdom on thefront porch.
And on my front porch is Dina, and I'm so gladyou're here, Dina.
Why don't you tell our audience just a littlebit about who you are, and then we'll get into
our conversation.
Oh, thank you so much, Alice.
It's a pleasure to be here.
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Well, my name is Dina Mare, and, I'm thefounder of, Soul Purpose Publishing.
And, so I'm a seven time internationalbestselling author, and I work with, soul led
entrepreneurs to publish to become, bestselling published authors.
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I also am a quantum human design coach and genekey, so I I use, you know, the what we call the
incarnation cross and the gene keys activationkeys to actually identify the patterns that you
have and, you know, your soul path for for forit.
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Awesome.
Awesome.
Where are you located at?
I'm at the moment, I'm in Cape Town, SouthAfrica.
Okay.
And but I'm very excited to be moving to Madridin August.
Oh, wonderful.
Oh, that is exciting.
So why did you choose Madrid?
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Well, my daughter lives there.
Oh.
And two grandchildren.
So
Oh, lovely.
Oh, that's wonderful.
Yeah.
So tell us a little bit about why you you callit soul publishing.
I call it soul purpose publishing.
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I've had this, you know, this term with what Ido, you know, as long as I can remember.
And when I started my sole you know, mypublishing business, I asked a friend, you
know, so what do you think I can call my mybusiness?
And she said, why don't you call it solepurpose publishing?
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I said, duh.
That's wonderful.
That's wonderful.
Now you talked about something else that you dobesides the publishing.
Can you expand a little more on that?
Sure.
I've been in coaching for a very long timesince 02/2002, and I've had several coaching
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certifications.
And then I really started getting into moreinto energetic work and energetic blueprints
that we find in our, you know, astrology, humandesign, most people know nowadays about that,
numerology as well, gene keys, it's all aboutwhere the planets were at the time of your
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birth.
And so in human design, of course, there's alot of information.
But what really is important that I use, forauthors, is the incarnation cross.
What we ask is where was the sun and the earthon the day of your birth plus the lines, I know
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this sounds now very technical, and theunconscious side as well.
And that is also your your what we call youractivation sequence in Gene Keys that shows you
what what are your shadows, what are yourgifts, And, you know, what is your ultimate
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expression?
You know, you and also, what is your life'swork?
And it's got nothing to do with youroccupation.
What is your life's work of your jean keys?
What is your soul evolution?
In other words, what is your soul contract aswell?
And your radiance and your purpose.
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Wow.
That's Very interesting.
I've I've never really heard about all of thisbefore.
Some of it a little bit, but not to thisin-depth.
How long does it usually take you once you aclient comes to you or or I don't know.
Do you call them clients?
A person comes to you and says, alright.
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Here I am.
Let's figure it all out.
So how how long does that does usually take?
Well, you know, just focusing on that, I I havea preparation of about two to three hours
because there's a lot of information.
And and I just told that down to an hoursession to give him an initial reading.
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I call it a mini reading.
And from there, you know, they can decide ifthey want to do a three month program or not.
It's up to them.
But what's really important, for creatives andauthors and, you know, we come into this life
with a story.
It's already imprinted in our energeticblueprint.
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Oh.
And it's actually amazing, you know, the thingsthat we struggle with is already there.
It's already the story that we live is alreadyin the blueprint.
And that is so absolutely fascinating.
So as we go through transformations in life andwe rewrite those stories and as we transform
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and grow and, you know, evolve, so does ourstory change.
Yeah.
So that's what I was gonna ask is it soundslike our story's already written.
We have no choice in it, but you said that werewrite our stories.
We do have a choice.
And We
always have a choice, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
We we don't have to stay with what we have.
I've got a talk coming up in July 5, and one ofthe things I put in there is that your past
doesn't mean you have to stay with that.
Maybe you made a mistake back then, and you'vebeen living with it for maybe even decades.
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You don't have to keep living without mistakes.
So you're right.
It's it's a choice we have.
So those seem like kind of two differentthings.
You have your story.
You have what's going on.
Then you have your publishing company, but yetit's really not, isn't it?
Because we can have our story and have all ofthe changes that we've made and choices we
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made, and then we can write about it and helpother people as they go through their story.
Absolutely.
That's what we do anyway as coaches, don't we?
Yes.
Yeah.
We go through something, we overcome it, andthen we help others.
We can't help it.
We feel that that drive to help others gothrough it.
And I believe that's our spiritual you know, Idon't wanna call it a responsibility because we
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have free will to do it or not.
And we, you know, we all have different ways ofexpressing that that transformation.
Some of us write about it, coach people aboutit, other people do something else with it.
So but what is actually just amazing is that itjust shows that, you know, that we think
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sometimes we think we're crazy, and we thinkthat life has it in it for us.
You know?
But, actually, we have come here for a specificreason, and we have come here to honor our soul
in this life.
And it is incredibly helpful if we know that,that it's not random.
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Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry for rubbing my eye continually.
I just came inside.
From outside, I had to we've got one of ourcattle has has a leg issue.
I think I got pollen or something in my eye.
Oh.
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Apologize for rubbing it continually, but,hopefully, it'll clear out it.
I hope so.
It's so
Little fuzzy thing in there.
I can't.
Alright.
So we'll continue.
My my issue.
But, so have you always done this?
Is this something when you were little, it'slike, I know what I need to do?
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Or how did you come about, learning about allthe different coaching that you do going into
knowing which program to go into?
And how did you get into the publishing side ofit?
That's a very long story, but let me start bysaying.
In my previous life, I was in IT for more thantwenty years.
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And then, you know, I stumbled upon NLP, NeuroLinguistic Programming, and although I was very
good at in IT, you know, over time, it I knewthere was something else out there for me.
Yeah.
And so when I I always say, when NLP and I met,it was love at first sight.
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I just knew this is amazing things here thatI'm learning.
And I'm also, of course, learning about myself.
Right.
You know?
Because until you have any kind of awakening ofknowing that, you know, there's more to me than
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just this life, you know, we become curious.
And so that was my first spiritual awakening, II guess, of really delving into myself and, of
course, typical IT professional.
After a month, I decided I already have aprogram that I'm gonna take people through.
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Oh, nice.
So so that's where it started with the coachingand, you know, self love has always been my my
focus in some other way to to discover moreabout ourselves and to love ourselves.
And then so that went on for many years.
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And then in 2022, I end of twenty one,beginning 2022, I had this opportunity to to
start my own publishing business.
And that was amazing because, you know, I neverthought about that.
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You know?
I never thought about that.
I knew because I read that book by PauloCallow, The Alchemist.
Okay.
I read that everybody knows that book.
I read that book many years ago, and it hadsuch an impact on me that I made this wish to
the universe and I said, want to write storieslike that that really inspire people.
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But of course, I didn't.
Oh.
But when this came across my my path, I just Ihad such a reaction in my body.
I just knew this was me.
This this everything that I know, all myskills, coaching, organization, you know, all
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of that just fell into place.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
And it feels right.
It feels right.
It feels right.
It feels right.
Yeah.
And I've I I still love it.
I really thoroughly enjoy it.
Oh, that's wonderful.
So who typically do you help, either withwriting books or with the NLP?
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Who would be your your ideal person to come toyou?
I always say I work with spiritualentrepreneurs.
Okay.
Coaches, healers, soul led entrepreneurs, lightworkers.
And my mission is really to to support them tobecome best selling authors so that they can
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grow their impact and their business.
Yeah.
And have, you know, their their message, theirstory broadcast into the world, and and use
that, leverage that, the title of being a bestselling author, the book, the story to actually
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to grow their business because, you know, thatis the whole idea of writing a nonfiction a
nonfiction book.
It's the aim is not to make money with thesales, especially, you know, solo preneurs.
And they show, of course, James Clear, whenyou're, you know, writing a book like Atomic
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Habits, then that's a whole different story.
Right.
For for us solo preneurs, coaches, writing theand pop you know, getting published elevates
your brand.
It really radically increases your credibility,your visibility, and your impact Yeah.
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And, of course, your income.
So that is the whole idea is to have somethingon the back end that you can leverage your
story and and the book with.
So your book really is your business card witha huge impact.
It's not just something that somebody sees,sticks in their wallet, you know, maybe sees it
again when they take it out of their wallet.
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But with the book, they get to know you.
They get to know who you are.
They get to know what they can do for you tohelp support you, to get you where you need to
go to find out, are there any potholes on myjourney that I need to avoid?
And or are there there side paths that I cantake that aren't gonna derail me from my my
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path?
Because there's a lot of options.
We get bombarded constantly with this is whatyou need to do, and that is what you need to
do.
To where if you have a book about what you dofor somebody, they already know how you're
gonna help them.
They know that you're being successful at it.
I mean, you wrote the book on it.
Right?
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So Right.
Absolutely.
Because, you know, in a in a chapter, in abook, or or your solo book, you describe and
you basically demonstrate to the reader thatyou have been where they are now.
And through your stories, you show them thatyou can lead them to where they wanna go, to
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where they wanna be.
Yeah.
And that's what I love about the the multiauthor books as well.
You know, it's a it's a condensed version ofyour of the story of of of, you know, of your
journey, but it's also an advertorial for you.
Oh, there you go.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you you showcase yourself, you showcaseyour experience, you showcase your, you know,
your photo is in there, your the links to allyour, you know, three or five or two or how
many links to your site and whatever you wantto to to have in there, your bio, it's all
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there.
So Mhmm.
You know, the right person read your messageand say, wow.
I want to know more about this person.
I want to know more.
I can connect with her.
She can help me.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
Absolutely.
That's really important because it's one thingto to write a book and then you've got it, but
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then people don't know how to get ahold of you,you know, unless you tell them in it.
And, yeah, you know, I have the thecollaborative books, the anthologies where
several people have written in them, and someof them don't have how to get ahold of them.
They just talk about, you know, their story andwhat they've done, and it's like, well, if I
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wanna know more, if I want to work with thisperson, I have to go start researching.
And for some people, that can be be a dauntingtask.
And, so, yeah, it is important to have yourlinks right in there or how to contact you
right away.
That's important.
I do wanna go back to the NLP a little bit, andit's and it's great because I think what you're
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saying is you help people discover theirpurpose and and what they're really here on on
earth for what they were born.
That's actually the not the NLP, but that isthe the human design.
The human design.
LP.
And the gene keys.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Because a lot of people are always asking, whatam I doing?
You know?
And they may be on a job that they've loved foryears, and they're finally at the point that's
like, I really want my life to mean more thanthis.
So what else is there?
You know, that was one of the, things I heardthe most, especially from people that have had
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a successful career.
And it's like, I've put all these years inpromoting this company.
Now it's time for me to retire, or I'm notsatisfied here, or the company's been taken
over by another company.
Whatever the reasons are, grandkids have movedout or or the kids are getting older and in
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high school, and I wanna make sure that I havesomething because, you know, our lives have
been wrapped around taking care of the family,taking care of the home, and there's gotta be
more out there for me.
So it's good to find out what that is.
You know, as as someone's faith based, it'slike, you know, I could go into the whole thing
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of, well, your purpose is is already designed.
This is what what you're called to do.
But not everybody is faith based like me, sothey need somewhere to know what to do, and
that's where Dina comes in.
I can definitely show them a direction of, youknow but, you know, if you think about, as I
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said earlier, your purpose in the Gene Keys isnot so much about what you do.
Right.
It's how you be.
Ah, very good.
So so your purpose in doing really can beanything.
That's why we have talents.
We have natural skills.
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We have passions.
Yeah.
We have things that we're naturally good at.
And any one of those is perfect.
Yep.
Yep.
It's perfect.
If it if it if it resonates with your heart, ifit gives you joy, that is that is the measure.
That's it right there.
Whatever that is, whatever that is, there isabsolutely no limitation to that.
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Nobody has to do or be anything.
It's what comes naturally to you.
It's your heart.
And I love what you said earlier about lovingyourself because a lot of people don't love
themselves.
You know, there's a verse in the Bible thatsays love your neighbor as yourself.
If you don't love yourself, how are you gonnalove your neighbor?
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And so it's important to for people tounderstand what does that mean to love
yourself.
Maybe you can expand on that for us.
Oh, with pleasure.
You know, I think the most important thing forpeople is that they they don't realize who they
really are.
Mhmm.
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We only see as far as our eyes can see.
Or what
people have told us.
And what people have told us.
But we are so much more than the body that wehave.
You know, when I I tell my clients, you know,you are you are not your mind because that is
the that is actually the worst the the thing ifwe are mind identified, identified, if we
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believe the mind, the chatter that makes usfeel miserable and inadequate and all of that,
then we really go through life as a victim oflife.
Oh.
And we don't realize, you know, we we are notthe mind.
We are not even the thoughts.
We are not the emotions.
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We are the awareness of the thoughts and of themind.
And once they can make that distinction that weactually disidentify from the mind into
presence, because when we live in the now, whenwe can come back into our heart, there's no
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mind there.
Yeah.
But the ego develops as we grow up, and itdevelops strategies to protect us.
And the ego is initiated by the soul.
But then often what happens is throughconditioning Yes.
Of our, you know, through society, our parents,and there's no such thing as bad parenting.
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We all go through the same individuationprocess.
It's part of our spiritual journey.
But all of that imprinting, that conditioning,the ego then develops and forgets to upgrade,
know, as it were.
Because people into their adulthood can stillremember the fear from childhood.
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So it's like it's like the life has moved on,but not the software.
Yeah.
And us.
So we need to upgrade that.
Yeah.
There's other authors who who've made careersout of talking about that the mind is not where
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you are.
You know?
You've got your subconscious, and you canchange it.
You know, Bob Proctor Yes.
Prone.
Napoleon Hill, there's others out there thattalk about that, and you are more than your
mind.
You are are not just that one thing.
So, yes, bringing in the heart, you know,accepting that there's more to you than just
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these thoughts that are going in because,otherwise, why would we be told to capture
those thoughts, those negative thoughts, andget rid of them?
You know?
Get rid of them.
Yeah.
And, of course, the easiest way to do that isto to become aware of them.
Yes.
And we become aware of what we're thinking bybecoming aware of how we feel.
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Yeah.
If we if we can be aware and, you know,especially when you're when you're when you're
when when your mood change and and you feeldown is to or you feel negative towards
something is to ask yourself, what am Ithinking about this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
Because that is the thing that needs to change,and that those thoughts often comes from
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childhood.
It comes from society.
It comes from parents, caregivers, teachers,their mindset, their views about something that
we have inherited.
That is not true for us, but it's an automaticdefault thinking pattern.
And that's something and the wonderful thing isis that, you know, besides coming into the now
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where there is no mind and train yourself to bepresent, it is also to train the mind to uplift
the mind.
You know?
Train your brain, be at that discipline, thinkabout who you wanna be.
You know?
Who do you really wanna be?
Do you wanna be the angry or depressed or, youknow, miserable person?
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Or do you want to be happy?
And do you want to be powerful and successful?
And then, you know, create that persona becausethe external world is a hologram.
It is not real.
It's an illusion.
It is only a reflection of your inner landscapeto the outer world.
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That is how powerful we are.
Yeah.
I've got a timer set on my phone.
There's my phone.
That at a certain time every day, I just be.
And someone suggested this to me last month, soit's something new I've been trying.
And it's interesting to me.
You know, at first, it was really tough to justsit and be still and just be.
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And it's like, well, what does that mean to be?
It's like you're just there.
You're in the moment.
You're you're kind of, you know, tellingeverything else.
Just leave me alone for a little bit.
Let me recharge.
Let me just be happy with who I am.
And and, you know, there's techniques to dothat, but but it's amazing what a difference.
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Just a few minutes just to be by yourself andand to take that time.
And it's not really I don't I don't reallyconsider meditation.
You know, sometimes I think of, okay.
I'm gonna take this time, and I'm just gonnasee me in the future being happy, doing what I
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want to really do and and successful, you know,whatever successful is in your mind.
And just enjoy that moment just to be whateverit is I want to be.
Maybe maybe I just wanna picture myself sittingby the lake with a fishing pole and not really
catching any fish, but just sitting there andenjoying it.
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And that could be a way to be.
It just go sit at the park and just be stillfor a while.
Enjoy the nature around you.
Hear what's going on.
You know?
Just pause.
And find take that take that fourteen minutewalk around the block.
You know?
For me, it's walking out to the mailbox comingback.
It takes about fifteen and a half minutes to dothat.
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But but it's that time you need to just giveyourself, give your body, give your energy,
give your mind a break.
A pause.
Is it a pause?
Yes.
It's to pause.
Just pause from from this crazy world that welive in and come back to, as you say, just come
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back to being.
Just breathe.
Feel your breath.
Notice things around you without judging it.
Just look at it.
Just see how still everything is.
Oh, yeah.
And how quiet everything is.
And the more we do that, the more we get usedto that, it's incredible.
It's incredible.
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It's a joy that comes from within.
And we start connecting with our inner being.
We start connecting with God in us.
Yeah.
And that is a beautiful experience and a way ofbeing.
Absolutely.
You know, you're talking about how we think,and it brought to my memory the book by James
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Allen.
How how as a man thinketh, you know, 45 pages.
Most powerful book.
I mean, there's a lot in there.
Don't think you're gonna oh, I'll just read 45pages, and that's it.
No.
You're gonna know you read that book when youfinished reading it.
And but it is.
It's talking about all of this, talking aboutwhere your mind is.
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And it's important to know to be able to dothese things because that really opens up and
releases your creativity, your imagination.
We would not have dryers without someone'screativity and imagination.
We would not be going to the moon or to Mars orwherever without someone's imagination and
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creativity.
We wouldn't have have big pens, you know,without somebody's
creative Well, everything everything startedwith a thought.
Absolutely.
And it's to it's to not use your mind to excuseme.
I've I interrupted you.
But it's not to use your mind to figure outyour problems.
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Yeah.
The mind isn't isn't made for that.
That's the ego.
It will make you think that it can figure outthe problem, but it can't because it is the
problem.
There are no problems.
I have life situations.
The the main thing is is that is to use yourimagination.
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Use your the imagination of your mind, as yousay, Alice, to dream.
Yeah.
To be in that reality with those emotions andfeel that joy, and go there as often as you
can.
Yeah.
And from there, be be centered because that isthe that is the key Right.
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To loving ourselves, to become more of aware ofthe of who we really are, And, you know, just
to stop, you know, what cell what really breaksself love down is when we start comparing and
competing
Yes.
And judging and criticizing and complaining andblaming.
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It's all behaviors of the victim self or thefalse self that is, of course, mind identified,
is to is to really just love what is.
Love what is.
Stop fighting the universe because it's goingto unfold anyway without your permission.
That's right.
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It doesn't need your permission for the nextmoment.
That's right.
Be at ease with it.
It and it brings us peace.
Yes.
And when we can do that, as you say, you know,then you have space to create.
Otherwise, we don't have space becauseeverything is cluttered Yeah.
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With our
don't have the energy because we're sorestrained
with all of this pressure, and you need to justrelease everything and breathe.
And breathe.
Absolutely.
Let the energy can flow through.
We need to relax and trust.
And I find that that is also you know, inworking with this with my authors and the Gene
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Keys, it's really evident for me that there area few key factors.
One is, of course, that that we are notpresent.
Right.
We are mind identified.
And because of that is that we try and force.
We try and make things happen.
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And, of course, that never goes well.
The other thing is that we don't trust.
We wanna control everything.
And, of course, that comes from childhood, youknow, where we and I I always say that nobody
comes through childhood unscathed.
There is Right.
Always you know, we all have some kind oftrauma, whether it's big or small, doesn't
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matter.
But that the result of that is that we wannacontrol our lives and everyone in it because
that makes us feel safe.
And then the idea to let go of that control andtrust that we are supported, that is a big
thing for humanity.
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That is a the biggest thing is to let go andtrust that you are supported.
And
and, of course, that, you know, and the wholething about the victim, the the the
complaining, the blaming, all of thosebehaviors, that victim self that we have we all
have a victim self and a creator self, is tojust choose and become aware where you are at
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so that you can choose to shift.
But that is all about, you know, that externalvalidation, about seeing our outer life as as,
you know, the thing that we need to achieve.
And we can't create the life that we want fromthe outside in.
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You must do it from the inside out.
And when we can drop that, we we can drop theexternal validation, the asking for approval,
the things to please people, to get them tolike us, to approve of us, then we are halfway
there.
You know?
Then self love becomes possible.
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Then we can start accepting ourselves and knowthat everything that happens is actually for
us.
Nice.
Even though we don't realize that and itdoesn't look like it, it's still for us.
Because we are here on a path.
We are here on a soul journey.
Right.
And it's not it's not supposed to be easy.
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We are here to go through the suffering andstruggle so that we can find our way home.
It's part of this journey.
And if we can start seeing that and really,really become rather curious about it, I think
so.
How do I do this differently?
Or how how do I create the life that I reallywant?
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And what would does that look like?
And start dreaming and start coming, you know,that peace inside.
It opens up that creativity, and synchronicitystarts to happen.
It's it's magical.
I love that that you're talking about that itcan be difficult.
And anytime that you start an exercise program,you start working out at the gym, you're
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learning a new language, you're learning a newskill, you always go through that difficult
time because it's something you don't know.
You're not familiar with it.
And and so you've got to just stick with itbecause, you know, you're gonna get past that
part, and you're gonna see the change.
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You're gonna see the reward.
You're gonna see the tone up going.
You're gonna see you're able to speak adifferent language or whatever skill, whether
it's painting, anything that you're doing,you're gonna learn it.
Same thing goes with working with what's insideof us.
And sometimes we don't want to bring thosethings out.
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We don't want to have those memories or things,but maybe it's something that that you need to
take out and get rid of so it's not alwaysthere in the back of your mind even if you
don't want to acknowledge it.
The thing is it's it's in our bodies.
It's in our muscle memory.
And Yes.
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You know, as I said earlier, we come into thislife with a story, and it's not just our own
story.
It's generations often.
That's right.
And we are we are here to break the patterns ofthat.
You know?
That's our responsibility.
But but absolutely, you know, we are supposedand it's not to dwell in the negative memories.
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It's just to let it come up.
And, you know, the the big thing is that nothought or emotion can actually kill you or
hurt you.
But if we can just face it and let it be, itwill stay in you for about two seconds.
And and go and release it.
And if you stay in your awareness withoutgetting pulled in by it, And just say, okay.
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I see that.
I'm I'm I'm not that anymore, or I might I'mthe one that's aware of that.
And just let it release.
Yes.
Because it comes up to be released.
That's that's a really good point.
You know, when I started really learning aboutwhat meditation was and and and the proper use
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of it, and one the things was when thosethoughts come in, acknowledge them.
Because if you don't, they're gonna keep comingback, and they're gonna get louder and noisier.
So you acknowledge that it's there, and it'slike, okay.
I hear you.
I know you're there, but this is not yourplace.
So just go away.
And then they'll come back again.
And, eventually, you're gonna realize it'slike, oh, I don't even have those thoughts
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anymore.
And it's really kind of freeing to know thatall those things that used to bombard me aren't
even in existence anymore because I, in mywords, captured those thoughts, and I did
something with them.
I didn't keep beating them down or go getfriends and come back.
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You know?
Like, okay.
Here you are, and I recognize you.
I see that you're there, but you go you go livesomewhere else now.
You don't live here anymore.
So that's wonderful.
Dina, thank you so much for being here.
I really appreciate all your insight.
And, you know, there's never enough hours in aday to have, you know, a two or three hour long
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conversation.
I know.
I know.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how do people get ahold of you?
I think the the easiest is my website,www.dinamare.com.
And on there, you will you will see everything.
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There's a tab there, work with me.
If you click on there, you'll see all theopportunities that you can work with me, you
know, to explore.
And, yeah, we always have multi author booksthat we're filling.
We have two at the moment, Divine Rebirth andMiracles Are Normal, beautiful books.
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We have, you know, solo books and partnershipbooks and publishing services and human design
and all kinds of beautiful things to helppeople shine in this world.
I love that.
Well you can see shine shine with LS that'sthat's my word.
That's something I've done all my life.
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It's just shine.
And you need to you need to let yourself shinebecause people really, really need that light
inside of you.
Thank you, Dina, for being here, and thank youraudience for taking the time to spend with us.
And we'll see you next time on wisdom on thefront porch.
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Alright.
Welcome to another episode on wisdom on thefront porch.
And on my front porch is Dina, and I'm so gladyou're here, Dina.
Why don't you tell our audience just a littlebit about who you are, and then we'll get into
our conversation.
Oh, thank you so much, Alice.
It's a pleasure to be here.
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Well, my name is Dina Mare, and, I'm thefounder of, Soul Purpose Publishing.
And, so I'm a seven time internationalbestselling author, and I work with, soul led
entrepreneurs to publish to become, bestselling published authors.
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I also am a quantum human design coach and genekey, so I I use, you know, the what we call the
incarnation cross and the gene keys activationkeys to actually identify the patterns that you
have and, you know, your soul path for for forit.
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Awesome.
Awesome.
Where are you located at?
I'm at the moment, I'm in Cape Town, SouthAfrica.
Okay.
And but I'm very excited to be moving to Madridin August.
Oh, wonderful.
Oh, that is exciting.
So why did you choose Madrid?
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Well, my daughter lives there.
Oh.
And two grandchildren.
So
Oh, lovely.
Oh, that's wonderful.
Yeah.
So tell us a little bit about why you you callit soul publishing.
I call it soul purpose publishing.
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I've had this, you know, this term with what Ido, you know, as long as I can remember.
And when I started my sole you know, mypublishing business, I asked a friend, you
know, so what do you think I can call my mybusiness?
And she said, why don't you call it solepurpose publishing?
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I said, duh.
That's wonderful.
That's wonderful.
Now you talked about something else that you dobesides the publishing.
Can you expand a little more on that?
Sure.
I've been in coaching for a very long timesince 02/2002, and I've had several coaching
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certifications.
And then I really started getting into moreinto energetic work and energetic blueprints
that we find in our, you know, astrology, humandesign, most people know nowadays about that,
numerology as well, gene keys, it's all aboutwhere the planets were at the time of your
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birth.
And so in human design, of course, there's alot of information.
But what really is important that I use, forauthors, is the incarnation cross.
What we ask is where was the sun and the earthon the day of your birth plus the lines, I know
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this sounds now very technical, and theunconscious side as well.
And that is also your your what we call youractivation sequence in Gene Keys that shows you
what what are your shadows, what are yourgifts, And, you know, what is your ultimate
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expression?
You know, you and also, what is your life'swork?
And it's got nothing to do with youroccupation.
What is your life's work of your jean keys?
What is your soul evolution?
In other words, what is your soul contract aswell?
And your radiance and your purpose.
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Wow.
That's Very interesting.
I've I've never really heard about all of thisbefore.
Some of it a little bit, but not to thisin-depth.
How long does it usually take you once you aclient comes to you or or I don't know.
Do you call them clients?
A person comes to you and says, alright.
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Here I am.
Let's figure it all out.
So how how long does that does usually take?
Well, you know, just focusing on that, I I havea preparation of about two to three hours
because there's a lot of information.
And and I just told that down to an hoursession to give him an initial reading.
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I call it a mini reading.
And from there, you know, they can decide ifthey want to do a three month program or not.
It's up to them.
But what's really important, for creatives andauthors and, you know, we come into this life
with a story.
It's already imprinted in our energeticblueprint.
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Oh.
And it's actually amazing, you know, the thingsthat we struggle with is already there.
It's already the story that we live is alreadyin the blueprint.
And that is so absolutely fascinating.
So as we go through transformations in life andwe rewrite those stories and as we transform
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and grow and, you know, evolve, so does ourstory change.
Yeah.
So that's what I was gonna ask is it soundslike our story's already written.
We have no choice in it, but you said that werewrite our stories.
We do have a choice.
And We
always have a choice, though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
We we don't have to stay with what we have.
I've got a talk coming up in July 5, and one ofthe things I put in there is that your past
doesn't mean you have to stay with that.
Maybe you made a mistake back then, and you'vebeen living with it for maybe even decades.
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You don't have to keep living without mistakes.
So you're right.
It's it's a choice we have.
So those seem like kind of two differentthings.
You have your story.
You have what's going on.
Then you have your publishing company, but yetit's really not, isn't it?
Because we can have our story and have all ofthe changes that we've made and choices we
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made, and then we can write about it and helpother people as they go through their story.
Absolutely.
That's what we do anyway as coaches, don't we?
Yes.
Yeah.
We go through something, we overcome it, andthen we help others.
We can't help it.
We feel that that drive to help others gothrough it.
And I believe that's our spiritual you know, Idon't wanna call it a responsibility because we
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have free will to do it or not.
And we, you know, we all have different ways ofexpressing that that transformation.
Some of us write about it, coach people aboutit, other people do something else with it.
So but what is actually just amazing is that itjust shows that, you know, that we think
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sometimes we think we're crazy, and we thinkthat life has it in it for us.
You know?
But, actually, we have come here for a specificreason, and we have come here to honor our soul
in this life.
And it is incredibly helpful if we know that,that it's not random.
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Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry for rubbing my eye continually.
I just came inside.
From outside, I had to we've got one of ourcattle has has a leg issue.
I think I got pollen or something in my eye.
Oh.
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Apologize for rubbing it continually, but,hopefully, it'll clear out it.
I hope so.
It's so
Little fuzzy thing in there.
I can't.
Alright.
So we'll continue.
My my issue.
But, so have you always done this?
Is this something when you were little, it'slike, I know what I need to do?
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Or how did you come about, learning about allthe different coaching that you do going into
knowing which program to go into?
And how did you get into the publishing side ofit?
That's a very long story, but let me start bysaying.
In my previous life, I was in IT for more thantwenty years.
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And then, you know, I stumbled upon NLP, NeuroLinguistic Programming, and although I was very
good at in IT, you know, over time, it I knewthere was something else out there for me.
Yeah.
And so when I I always say, when NLP and I met,it was love at first sight.
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I just knew this is amazing things here thatI'm learning.
And I'm also, of course, learning about myself.
Right.
You know?
Because until you have any kind of awakening ofknowing that, you know, there's more to me than
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just this life, you know, we become curious.
And so that was my first spiritual awakening, II guess, of really delving into myself and, of
course, typical IT professional.
After a month, I decided I already have aprogram that I'm gonna take people through.
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Oh, nice.
So so that's where it started with the coachingand, you know, self love has always been my my
focus in some other way to to discover moreabout ourselves and to love ourselves.
And then so that went on for many years.
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And then in 2022, I end of twenty one,beginning 2022, I had this opportunity to to
start my own publishing business.
And that was amazing because, you know, I neverthought about that.
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You know?
I never thought about that.
I knew because I read that book by PauloCallow, The Alchemist.
Okay.
I read that everybody knows that book.
I read that book many years ago, and it hadsuch an impact on me that I made this wish to
the universe and I said, want to write storieslike that that really inspire people.
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But of course, I didn't.
Oh.
But when this came across my my path, I just Ihad such a reaction in my body.
I just knew this was me.
This this everything that I know, all myskills, coaching, organization, you know, all
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of that just fell into place.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
And it feels right.
It feels right.
It feels right.
It feels right.
Yeah.
And I've I I still love it.
I really thoroughly enjoy it.
Oh, that's wonderful.
So who typically do you help, either withwriting books or with the NLP?
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Who would be your your ideal person to come toyou?
I always say I work with spiritualentrepreneurs.
Okay.
Coaches, healers, soul led entrepreneurs, lightworkers.
And my mission is really to to support them tobecome best selling authors so that they can
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grow their impact and their business.
Yeah.
And have, you know, their their message, theirstory broadcast into the world, and and use
that, leverage that, the title of being a bestselling author, the book, the story to actually
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to grow their business because, you know, thatis the whole idea of writing a nonfiction a
nonfiction book.
It's the aim is not to make money with thesales, especially, you know, solo preneurs.
And they show, of course, James Clear, whenyou're, you know, writing a book like Atomic
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Habits, then that's a whole different story.
Right.
For for us solo preneurs, coaches, writing theand pop you know, getting published elevates
your brand.
It really radically increases your credibility,your visibility, and your impact Yeah.
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And, of course, your income.
So that is the whole idea is to have somethingon the back end that you can leverage your
story and and the book with.
So your book really is your business card witha huge impact.
It's not just something that somebody sees,sticks in their wallet, you know, maybe sees it
again when they take it out of their wallet.
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But with the book, they get to know you.
They get to know who you are.
They get to know what they can do for you tohelp support you, to get you where you need to
go to find out, are there any potholes on myjourney that I need to avoid?
And or are there there side paths that I cantake that aren't gonna derail me from my my
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path?
Because there's a lot of options.
We get bombarded constantly with this is whatyou need to do, and that is what you need to
do.
To where if you have a book about what you dofor somebody, they already know how you're
gonna help them.
They know that you're being successful at it.
I mean, you wrote the book on it.
Right?
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So Right.
Absolutely.
Because, you know, in a in a chapter, in abook, or or your solo book, you describe and
you basically demonstrate to the reader thatyou have been where they are now.
And through your stories, you show them thatyou can lead them to where they wanna go, to
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where they wanna be.
Yeah.
And that's what I love about the the multiauthor books as well.
You know, it's a it's a condensed version ofyour of the story of of of, you know, of your
journey, but it's also an advertorial for you.
Oh, there you go.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you you showcase yourself, you showcaseyour experience, you showcase your, you know,
your photo is in there, your the links to allyour, you know, three or five or two or how
many links to your site and whatever you wantto to to have in there, your bio, it's all
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there.
So Mhmm.
You know, the right person read your messageand say, wow.
I want to know more about this person.
I want to know more.
I can connect with her.
She can help me.
That's right.
Yeah.
That's right.
Absolutely.
That's really important because it's one thingto to write a book and then you've got it, but
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then people don't know how to get ahold of you,you know, unless you tell them in it.
And, yeah, you know, I have the thecollaborative books, the anthologies where
several people have written in them, and someof them don't have how to get ahold of them.
They just talk about, you know, their story andwhat they've done, and it's like, well, if I
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wanna know more, if I want to work with thisperson, I have to go start researching.
And for some people, that can be be a dauntingtask.
And, so, yeah, it is important to have yourlinks right in there or how to contact you
right away.
That's important.
I do wanna go back to the NLP a little bit, andit's and it's great because I think what you're
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saying is you help people discover theirpurpose and and what they're really here on on
earth for what they were born.
That's actually the not the NLP, but that isthe the human design.
The human design.
LP.
And the gene keys.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Because a lot of people are always asking, whatam I doing?
You know?
And they may be on a job that they've loved foryears, and they're finally at the point that's
like, I really want my life to mean more thanthis.
So what else is there?
You know, that was one of the, things I heardthe most, especially from people that have had
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a successful career.
And it's like, I've put all these years inpromoting this company.
Now it's time for me to retire, or I'm notsatisfied here, or the company's been taken
over by another company.
Whatever the reasons are, grandkids have movedout or or the kids are getting older and in
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high school, and I wanna make sure that I havesomething because, you know, our lives have
been wrapped around taking care of the family,taking care of the home, and there's gotta be
more out there for me.
So it's good to find out what that is.
You know, as as someone's faith based, it'slike, you know, I could go into the whole thing
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of, well, your purpose is is already designed.
This is what what you're called to do.
But not everybody is faith based like me, sothey need somewhere to know what to do, and
that's where Dina comes in.
I can definitely show them a direction of, youknow but, you know, if you think about, as I
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said earlier, your purpose in the Gene Keys isnot so much about what you do.
Right.
It's how you be.
Ah, very good.
So so your purpose in doing really can beanything.
That's why we have talents.
We have natural skills.
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We have passions.
Yeah.
We have things that we're naturally good at.
And any one of those is perfect.
Yep.
Yep.
It's perfect.
If it if it if it resonates with your heart, ifit gives you joy, that is that is the measure.
That's it right there.
Whatever that is, whatever that is, there isabsolutely no limitation to that.
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Nobody has to do or be anything.
It's what comes naturally to you.
It's your heart.
And I love what you said earlier about lovingyourself because a lot of people don't love
themselves.
You know, there's a verse in the Bible thatsays love your neighbor as yourself.
If you don't love yourself, how are you gonnalove your neighbor?
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And so it's important to for people tounderstand what does that mean to love
yourself.
Maybe you can expand on that for us.
Oh, with pleasure.
You know, I think the most important thing forpeople is that they they don't realize who they
really are.
Mhmm.
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We only see as far as our eyes can see.
Or what
people have told us.
And what people have told us.
But we are so much more than the body that wehave.
You know, when I I tell my clients, you know,you are you are not your mind because that is
the that is actually the worst the the thing ifwe are mind identified, identified, if we
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believe the mind, the chatter that makes usfeel miserable and inadequate and all of that,
then we really go through life as a victim oflife.
Oh.
And we don't realize, you know, we we are notthe mind.
We are not even the thoughts.
We are not the emotions.
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We are the awareness of the thoughts and of themind.
And once they can make that distinction that weactually disidentify from the mind into
presence, because when we live in the now, whenwe can come back into our heart, there's no
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mind there.
Yeah.
But the ego develops as we grow up, and itdevelops strategies to protect us.
And the ego is initiated by the soul.
But then often what happens is throughconditioning Yes.
Of our, you know, through society, our parents,and there's no such thing as bad parenting.
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We all go through the same individuationprocess.
It's part of our spiritual journey.
But all of that imprinting, that conditioning,the ego then develops and forgets to upgrade,
know, as it were.
Because people into their adulthood can stillremember the fear from childhood.
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So it's like it's like the life has moved on,but not the software.
Yeah.
And us.
So we need to upgrade that.
Yeah.
There's other authors who who've made careersout of talking about that the mind is not where
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you are.
You know?
You've got your subconscious, and you canchange it.
You know, Bob Proctor Yes.
Prone.
Napoleon Hill, there's others out there thattalk about that, and you are more than your
mind.
You are are not just that one thing.
So, yes, bringing in the heart, you know,accepting that there's more to you than just
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these thoughts that are going in because,otherwise, why would we be told to capture
those thoughts, those negative thoughts, andget rid of them?
You know?
Get rid of them.
Yeah.
And, of course, the easiest way to do that isto to become aware of them.
Yes.
And we become aware of what we're thinking bybecoming aware of how we feel.
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Yeah.
If we if we can be aware and, you know,especially when you're when you're when you're
when when your mood change and and you feeldown is to or you feel negative towards
something is to ask yourself, what am Ithinking about this?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know?
Because that is the thing that needs to change,and that those thoughts often comes from
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childhood.
It comes from society.
It comes from parents, caregivers, teachers,their mindset, their views about something that
we have inherited.
That is not true for us, but it's an automaticdefault thinking pattern.
And that's something and the wonderful thing isis that, you know, besides coming into the now
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where there is no mind and train yourself to bepresent, it is also to train the mind to uplift
the mind.
You know?
Train your brain, be at that discipline, thinkabout who you wanna be.
You know?
Who do you really wanna be?
Do you wanna be the angry or depressed or, youknow, miserable person?
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Or do you want to be happy?
And do you want to be powerful and successful?
And then, you know, create that persona becausethe external world is a hologram.
It is not real.
It's an illusion.
It is only a reflection of your inner landscapeto the outer world.
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That is how powerful we are.
Yeah.
I've got a timer set on my phone.
There's my phone.
That at a certain time every day, I just be.
And someone suggested this to me last month, soit's something new I've been trying.
And it's interesting to me.
You know, at first, it was really tough to justsit and be still and just be.
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And it's like, well, what does that mean to be?
It's like you're just there.
You're in the moment.
You're you're kind of, you know, tellingeverything else.
Just leave me alone for a little bit.
Let me recharge.
Let me just be happy with who I am.
And and, you know, there's techniques to dothat, but but it's amazing what a difference.
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Just a few minutes just to be by yourself andand to take that time.
And it's not really I don't I don't reallyconsider meditation.
You know, sometimes I think of, okay.
I'm gonna take this time, and I'm just gonnasee me in the future being happy, doing what I
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want to really do and and successful, you know,whatever successful is in your mind.
And just enjoy that moment just to be whateverit is I want to be.
Maybe maybe I just wanna picture myself sittingby the lake with a fishing pole and not really
catching any fish, but just sitting there andenjoying it.
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And that could be a way to be.
It just go sit at the park and just be stillfor a while.
Enjoy the nature around you.
Hear what's going on.
You know?
Just pause.
And find take that take that fourteen minutewalk around the block.
You know?
For me, it's walking out to the mailbox comingback.
It takes about fifteen and a half minutes to dothat.
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But but it's that time you need to just giveyourself, give your body, give your energy,
give your mind a break.
A pause.
Is it a pause?
Yes.
It's to pause.
Just pause from from this crazy world that welive in and come back to, as you say, just come
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back to being.
Just breathe.
Feel your breath.
Notice things around you without judging it.
Just look at it.
Just see how still everything is.
Oh, yeah.
And how quiet everything is.
And the more we do that, the more we get usedto that, it's incredible.
It's incredible.
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It's a joy that comes from within.
And we start connecting with our inner being.
We start connecting with God in us.
Yeah.
And that is a beautiful experience and a way ofbeing.
Absolutely.
You know, you're talking about how we think,and it brought to my memory the book by James
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Allen.
How how as a man thinketh, you know, 45 pages.
Most powerful book.
I mean, there's a lot in there.
Don't think you're gonna oh, I'll just read 45pages, and that's it.
No.
You're gonna know you read that book when youfinished reading it.
And but it is.
It's talking about all of this, talking aboutwhere your mind is.
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And it's important to know to be able to dothese things because that really opens up and
releases your creativity, your imagination.
We would not have dryers without someone'screativity and imagination.
We would not be going to the moon or to Mars orwherever without someone's imagination and
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creativity.
We wouldn't have have big pens, you know,without somebody's
creative Well, everything everything startedwith a thought.
Absolutely.
And it's to it's to not use your mind to excuseme.
I've I interrupted you.
But it's not to use your mind to figure outyour problems.
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Yeah.
The mind isn't isn't made for that.
That's the ego.
It will make you think that it can figure outthe problem, but it can't because it is the
problem.
There are no problems.
I have life situations.
The the main thing is is that is to use yourimagination.
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Use your the imagination of your mind, as yousay, Alice, to dream.
Yeah.
To be in that reality with those emotions andfeel that joy, and go there as often as you
can.
Yeah.
And from there, be be centered because that isthe that is the key Right.
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To loving ourselves, to become more of aware ofthe of who we really are, And, you know, just
to stop, you know, what cell what really breaksself love down is when we start comparing and
competing
Yes.
And judging and criticizing and complaining andblaming.
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It's all behaviors of the victim self or thefalse self that is, of course, mind identified,
is to is to really just love what is.
Love what is.
Stop fighting the universe because it's goingto unfold anyway without your permission.
That's right.
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It doesn't need your permission for the nextmoment.
That's right.
Be at ease with it.
It and it brings us peace.
Yes.
And when we can do that, as you say, you know,then you have space to create.
Otherwise, we don't have space becauseeverything is cluttered Yeah.
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With our
don't have the energy because we're sorestrained
with all of this pressure, and you need to justrelease everything and breathe.
And breathe.
Absolutely.
Let the energy can flow through.
We need to relax and trust.
And I find that that is also you know, inworking with this with my authors and the Gene
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Keys, it's really evident for me that there area few key factors.
One is, of course, that that we are notpresent.
Right.
We are mind identified.
And because of that is that we try and force.
We try and make things happen.
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And, of course, that never goes well.
The other thing is that we don't trust.
We wanna control everything.
And, of course, that comes from childhood, youknow, where we and I I always say that nobody
comes through childhood unscathed.
There is Right.
Always you know, we all have some kind oftrauma, whether it's big or small, doesn't
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matter.
But that the result of that is that we wannacontrol our lives and everyone in it because
that makes us feel safe.
And then the idea to let go of that control andtrust that we are supported, that is a big
thing for humanity.
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That is a the biggest thing is to let go andtrust that you are supported.
And
and, of course, that, you know, and the wholething about the victim, the the the
complaining, the blaming, all of thosebehaviors, that victim self that we have we all
have a victim self and a creator self, is tojust choose and become aware where you are at
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so that you can choose to shift.
But that is all about, you know, that externalvalidation, about seeing our outer life as as,
you know, the thing that we need to achieve.
And we can't create the life that we want fromthe outside in.
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You must do it from the inside out.
And when we can drop that, we we can drop theexternal validation, the asking for approval,
the things to please people, to get them tolike us, to approve of us, then we are halfway
there.
You know?
Then self love becomes possible.
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Then we can start accepting ourselves and knowthat everything that happens is actually for
us.
Nice.
Even though we don't realize that and itdoesn't look like it, it's still for us.
Because we are here on a path.
We are here on a soul journey.
Right.
And it's not it's not supposed to be easy.
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We are here to go through the suffering andstruggle so that we can find our way home.
It's part of this journey.
And if we can start seeing that and really,really become rather curious about it, I think
so.
How do I do this differently?
Or how how do I create the life that I reallywant?
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And what would does that look like?
And start dreaming and start coming, you know,that peace inside.
It opens up that creativity, and synchronicitystarts to happen.
It's it's magical.
I love that that you're talking about that itcan be difficult.
And anytime that you start an exercise program,you start working out at the gym, you're
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learning a new language, you're learning a newskill, you always go through that difficult
time because it's something you don't know.
You're not familiar with it.
And and so you've got to just stick with itbecause, you know, you're gonna get past that
part, and you're gonna see the change.
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You're gonna see the reward.
You're gonna see the tone up going.
You're gonna see you're able to speak adifferent language or whatever skill, whether
it's painting, anything that you're doing,you're gonna learn it.
Same thing goes with working with what's insideof us.
And sometimes we don't want to bring thosethings out.
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We don't want to have those memories or things,but maybe it's something that that you need to
take out and get rid of so it's not alwaysthere in the back of your mind even if you
don't want to acknowledge it.
The thing is it's it's in our bodies.
It's in our muscle memory.
And Yes.
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You know, as I said earlier, we come into thislife with a story, and it's not just our own
story.
It's generations often.
That's right.
And we are we are here to break the patterns ofthat.
You know?
That's our responsibility.
But but absolutely, you know, we are supposedand it's not to dwell in the negative memories.
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It's just to let it come up.
And, you know, the the big thing is that nothought or emotion can actually kill you or
hurt you.
But if we can just face it and let it be, itwill stay in you for about two seconds.
And and go and release it.
And if you stay in your awareness withoutgetting pulled in by it, And just say, okay.
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I see that.
I'm I'm I'm not that anymore, or I might I'mthe one that's aware of that.
And just let it release.
Yes.
Because it comes up to be released.
That's that's a really good point.
You know, when I started really learning aboutwhat meditation was and and and the proper use
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of it, and one the things was when thosethoughts come in, acknowledge them.
Because if you don't, they're gonna keep comingback, and they're gonna get louder and noisier.
So you acknowledge that it's there, and it'slike, okay.
I hear you.
I know you're there, but this is not yourplace.
So just go away.
And then they'll come back again.
And, eventually, you're gonna realize it'slike, oh, I don't even have those thoughts
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anymore.
And it's really kind of freeing to know thatall those things that used to bombard me aren't
even in existence anymore because I, in mywords, captured those thoughts, and I did
something with them.
I didn't keep beating them down or go getfriends and come back.
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You know?
Like, okay.
Here you are, and I recognize you.
I see that you're there, but you go you go livesomewhere else now.
You don't live here anymore.
So that's wonderful.
Dina, thank you so much for being here.
I really appreciate all your insight.
And, you know, there's never enough hours in aday to have, you know, a two or three hour long
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conversation.
I know.
I know.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how do people get ahold of you?
I think the the easiest is my website,www.dinamare.com.
And on there, you will you will see everything.
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There's a tab there, work with me.
If you click on there, you'll see all theopportunities that you can work with me, you
know, to explore.
And, yeah, we always have multi author booksthat we're filling.
We have two at the moment, Divine Rebirth andMiracles Are Normal, beautiful books.
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We have, you know, solo books and partnershipbooks and publishing services and human design
and all kinds of beautiful things to helppeople shine in this world.
I love that.
Well you can see shine shine with LS that'sthat's my word.
That's something I've done all my life.
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It's just shine.
And you need to you need to let yourself shinebecause people really, really need that light
inside of you.
Thank you, Dina, for being here, and thank youraudience for taking the time to spend with us.
And we'll see you next time on wisdom on thefront porch.
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