April 20, 2025 • 49 mins
In this episode of Wisdom on the Front Porch, LS Kirkpatrick chats with Dwayne Morton about his entrepreneurial journey and The One Sixty Eight Game, which emphasizes valuing time. Dwayne shares how overcoming health challenges and trauma led him to write a book. They discuss Bill Walsh's advice on writing, including content, audience, and selecting a publisher. The conversation also covers emotional healing and LS Kirkpatrick's Kingdom Impact Award. Themes include faith, divine intervention, networking integrity, and embracing one's journey. The episode concludes with reflections on seizing opportunities and full circle moments.
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This is not your typical Wisdom on the FrontPorch podcast.
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I just know whenever I talk, like, I heardabout you, like, I wanted to meet.
I can't remember if it was for a Manny's eventor another event.
I just was like, hey.
That that's a bad thing about sometimes you getin these meetings.
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We're like, okay.
But but I usually do not I do not, like, createa meeting unless I feel like, hey.
There's something I want to learn about themor, like, they resonate.
If they don't resonate with me, I don't even dothat.
Yeah.
I was gonna say.
Yeah.
I know.
We need to value our time.
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I'm I'm reading a book, one sixty eight.
Oh, where'd you go?
And it's a a real book.
It's not on on my phone, so I have to look forit.
It's called The One Sixty Eight Game with BillCorman, and it's about owning your time.
Wow.
Okay.
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Really good book.
My grandson and I actually started reading ittogether, and then he had to go join the navy
and went to boot camp.
So we'll have to pick it up when he gets getsdone.
But
So it's the one six eight game, or was it thegame?
Okay.
The one six eight game.
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I've I've I've got it saved, so I'll look at itafterwards.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what what do you do?
I do a lot.
Good.
But, like, I I do many, many things.
But, like, what I'm what what I would like tosay the most I do and, like, what I feel the
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most, purpose is I'm an inspirational speaker.
We got two stories of resiliency that arepretty powerful.
And then because, like, with basketball, I haveI I help teach athletes mental performance.
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And so I taught myself how to do that.
And I went you know, that's really that's how Igot to accomplish my dream is I was just really
good at something, but I taught myself.
And then I do AI and automation stuff, andthat's kinda how to pay the bills.
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Also, I'm in a very rare air with those peopletoo because I'm friends with people who beta
tested CHATGBT and beta tested open AI.
So Oh, nice.
It just lets you know, like, there's only ahundred people there's only a hundred people
that beta test open AI stuff.
So definitely know I'm in rare air with that.
And so, traffic in my chair.
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The so I I can't remember.
Like, so my part part of my story is thetraumatic stuff I've been through.
You know, I was diagnosed with a blood cancerat 29.
Mhmm.
I was told I only have fifteen years to live.
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I decided not to have a wife, family, all thatstuff.
And then in March of this year, I found out Iwas misdiagnosed.
So Wonderful.
Yeah.
So a couple of months ago, I really got the allclear.
But, like, in March, I was just making thesesmall steps and, like, elevating myself.
And I also was dealing with another trauma.
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I was involved in a police shooting.
I got caught up in the crossfire.
Oh.
And, I was in the eighth of an inch from losingmy life for an eighth of an inch.
If the bullet went went to the left, it wouldgot me.
But when we went to the right, it would havegot my little niece who was three years old at
the time.
Oh, wow.
So the perfect situation happened, but,unfortunately, I still had traumatic issues to
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deal with.
I was dealing with survivor's guilt and PTSD.
And so it's kinda just in a big funk.
And then in March, however spirituality youare, God, universe, he, you know, he let me
know.
I mean, I was almost like desolence.
And I thought, hey.
You know, anytime I'm gonna pass away.
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And so I'm healthy.
I've always been grateful.
That's the other thing is I've always beengrateful.
I know other people had at work you know, hadworse.
So I always lived in that gratitude space.
And I always moved.
That's what I was gonna say is, like, I alwayswas moving.
It might not have been a lot, but it was alittle bit of movement.
Yep.
And so the misdiagnosis, I was could have beencleared up in a month.
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I just only have sleep apnea.
That's it.
Severe sleep apnea.
Right.
And so I'm trying to catch up for all that losttime.
And, you know, the faster, the better.
But, also, I I have to I have to focus onhealing too, so that's the other thing.
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Right.
So, and I know you have a ton of books.
I also know you, like, write and and and dothat stuff.
And, like, that's what I'm kinda looking for.
I'm looking to write a book, looking toprobably two or three, honestly.
Okay.
It's just I mean, I've I've I've I've sat downwith quite a few people already, but I just
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when I resonate with somebody, I'm like, hey.
I wanna see what's out there, see who resonatesthe best.
And, like, I feel through prayer and meditationthat, like, it gets worked out.
And so Yeah.
The biggest thing for me is financially is myfinances are wrecked because of this.
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And I found out Friday it's either Friday orlast Friday.
I can't remember.
It's actually pretty freeing, but I just foundout, hey.
I probably a lawsuit's not gonna bring youmoney.
It's not gonna bring any of this stuff back.
So I don't know if I'm even gonna pursue it.
There's a there's a part of me that wants theaccountability to be like, hey.
You should be accountable for your actions.
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Right.
But, honestly, I don't know if I really wannadeal with it.
I don't know if I just wanna the other thing isI'll probably have to sign an NDA and all that
shit, and I don't wanna do that.
I'll just be honest.
Like, I just wanna be able to put my truth out.
The truth is truth.
Right.
So you can't really you know?
So that's kinda where I'm at.
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It's like, I'm just trying to overcome thisreal these really bad situations.
And, it's kinda funny this week.
Actually, abandonment kinda came up because Iwas abandoned by a lot of people.
Yeah.
And so I'm working on that I'm working on thatstuff.
A couple weeks ago, angry and grief came up.
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And so, you know, so I'm working through it.
So that's kinda where I'm at is, like, I'm justI have a ton of opportunity.
A lot of doors have opened up for me and stufflike that.
Good.
And, I met Bill Walsh a few weeks ago oractually a month ago, and Bill told me, like,
hey, dude.
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You should already have a book.
Like, you know, that's for notoriety and forauthority.
But he's like he's like, you you need, like,two or three.
And he's like, I don't think you're gonna stopat two and three.
He's like, I think you'll have multiple.
But he's like, so I started writing, and hetold me he was like, the biggest thing I would
tell you to do, like, right now is to build abook cover.
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And so that's what I've done.
I've got a book cover already.
And, you know, I I don't have, like, a time toannounce or anything like that.
It's just more TVA, but it's just something tobring, you know, that I'm working on it.
So I'm a be quiet.
Let you just kinda see what resonates with you.
And
Yeah.
So what's your book about, the one that you'rewriting right now?
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It's about 02/2024 right now.
It's got some of the stories from the past,like, but it really is more about this journey
part.
Okay.
And and, honestly, I really don't know if I'llput the journey of 02/2024 in it.
I think it's just gonna be a part of it, andit's gonna have more of the backstory.
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Okay.
And then they get you ready for the next book.
Right.
And so I I really have been kinda in betweenwhich one I wanted to put out first.
Like, I wanna put out 02/2024 becauseeverybody's experience has come back.
It's called the it's called the bounce backseason is the name of it.
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And it's you know, because of the basketball,it's like so and I'm not sure if I wanna put a
subtitle or any of that stuff.
I mean, I'm very I'm very open to, like,suggestions and all that stuff.
I'm not like, it's gonna be this way.
It's gotta be this way.
I'm not I'm really not Good.
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Because I don't don't either.
Yeah.
I know I know some some publishers do that.
They want it a certain way.
They and part of it is because they've been inthe business a long time.
They know what sells, but that doesn't meanthat other stuff doesn't sell either because it
does.
Right.
So the things you need to to figure out with abook is, one, you have to figure out who you're
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talking to.
And and I always give the chair example.
Who's sitting in the chair?
There's a chair right in front of you.
Who's sitting in it?
Who are you talking to every time you write thebook?
Who do you picture in your mind?
And this is a person you know how much moneythey make.
You know if they don't make any money, if ifthey're retired, if they're a bum, if they're
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not a bum, but they just, you know, choose alife that they don't have to make money,
whatever that part is.
Is it a girl?
Is it a boy?
What color of hair do they have?
Is it long?
Is it short?
Do they color it or leave it natural?
Do they have family?
Do they have siblings?
Mom, dad?
You know?
Are they what's their ancestor?
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I mean, you know everything there is to knowabout this person better than you know
yourself.
You know their favorite foods.
Now the reason you do that, and this workswhether you're writing a book, giving a speech,
giving a talk.
It helps you focus on one thing, one person.
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So that gives your story clarity.
That gives your story the ability to reallyunveil itself because you only have to tell it
to one person.
And does that mean that only that one persongets the story?
No.
But what you've done is now you have given thefocus, the clarity, the you've given them the
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story, but in a way that no matter who readsthe book, they're gonna get it because it
flows.
It makes sense.
You're not trying to tell a hundred people thesame story a hundred different ways.
It's just one.
The other thing you want to look at is what isthe reader going to get out of it?
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What is the purpose that that you want someoneto read the book?
What are they gonna take with them?
And and you already know your why.
Why are you telling the story?
When you're telling it because someone told youto.
But your why of why you're telling thisparticular story is going to really pull
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everything from you that you need to get thestory told.
So if if you're telling the story to show youhave authority in a subject or just to get
recognized or using it as a business card,which is a great thing to do, all of those are
good, But you really need to know why am Iwriting this particular story.
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Out of all the stories I could write, what isit about this?
So you've got the person you're writing to.
You know what that person what you want thatperson to take out of the book, and you know
why you're writing the book.
You know, it's kind of kind of like, what dothey call it, the fire triangle.
You've got three parts.
You've got food, you've got air, and you've gotheat.
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And so those are the things you're putting inthere.
The food is what the person is getting from it.
The heat is what you're pouring into it, andthe air is the person you're talking to.
When you've got those strings things going,it's gonna be really good.
Now if you've got the cover for it, that'sgreat.
You may write your book and realize, you know,I want a different cover.
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So that's okay.
So don't don't worry about things like thatuntil your book is is really done.
Not ready not printed done, but ready to go tothe publisher or the printer.
So that's the other thing.
There is the printer, the one who actuallyprints the book, and the publisher is the one
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who helps you get your book out into the world,either on Amazon, IngramSpark's, however you
want to do it.
Now Amazon really is a printer, not apublisher.
You are the publisher if you're gonna do ityourself.
If you go through me, I'm a hybrid publisher,vanity publisher.
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It's just you either have self publishing,traditional publishing, or the hybrid vanity
publisher.
There's nothing in between.
Now there are as many different publishers asthere are personalities, so you have to go with
somebody that you feel comfortable with, thatyou feel is going to let your book get where it
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needs to go, that they're not going to say,well, this is really good, but we like this
better.
And you've got a lot of stuff in here.
We're gonna rearrange things.
That can get frustrating.
I'm talking with a gentleman right now that Iunderstand both sides of the story.
I understand why the publisher doesn't wannagive him 10 different versions of the cover
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because that's expensive.
Coverage usually cost $400 a piece, and that'sat the minimum unless you're doing it yourself,
and then that's a different story.
But to have someone come in and do a cover is400 a piece.
So they don't wanna do four hundred or twenty,ten different covers.
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Now this person is a designer himself.
So that's what he gives his customers, but it'sdifferent.
So you have to look at at what they're gonna dofor you.
What's the publisher gonna do for you?
What are their promises?
Do they promise to make you a number onebestseller on Amazon?
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Do they promise to help you with marketingafter the book?
And and all of it costs money.
If you're gonna do marketing on top ofpublishing on Amazon, it's gonna cost more
because there's more that's poured into it.
So it depends on what you want done.
What do you want done with your book once youhave it written?
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I'll be honest.
I really don't know.
Okay.
And I don't like, I so I'm I'm one of thosehonest tran I'm, like, super honest and super
transparent.
I'm a really good What you see is what you get.
Yeah.
I mean, so, like, authenticity is, like, mynumber one characteristic.
And then the second one's integrity, and thenthe next one's, like, justice, and the next
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one's, like, compassion.
And so I just kinda roll with those things,but, like, I'm extremely transparent about
things.
And, like, if I don't know it, I don't know.
And I'm also, like, I'm going yeah.
As you know, like I just told you, I'm goingthrough a lot.
And I was told as I write this book, there'sgonna be a lot of healing and stuff like that.
And There is.
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Even just in the even just the little bit thatI wrote is, like, been extremely healing.
Yeah.
I'm extremely close to her anyway.
I was already extremely close to her, but afterthe shooting, we're even more extremely close.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And so
How is she doing with it all?
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Lucky for her, she doesn't recall a lot of it,but she doesn't talk about it.
Now she talked to me about it for the firstyear, year and a half.
But after that, she kinda let it alone.
I'm kinda I'm kinda waiting on that day inschool when she's, like, talking about, you
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know, being shot at or, like, she wasn't shotat, but the you know, she was on the crossfire
of a gun.
Right.
And so, yeah, I don't know how how that I wannareact to that.
And I don't know how I I can tell you thatshe's a fearful kid.
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So, like, I assumed that had something to dowith it.
And you know?
Yeah.
It's an unknown thing that all of a suddenhappened, and she didn't understand it at the
time.
Right.
She's still trying to figure it out.
Right.
So she's six right now.
So, you know, I'm not really sure.
I I know Just give me minute.
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Know when kinda making it a little bit morepublic, I asked her, and I said, hey.
You know that thing that we went through?
Is it o And she said, yeah.
Cool.
And I was like, well, listen.
I was like, it could be very big, hopefully.
Like, I need you to know.
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Like, I just need you to know.
Like, I'm only doing this to help others.
And I told my brother, and my brother's like,why'd you bring it up?
And I'm like, I needed her permission.
She was there.
It's just me and her.
Like
Yeah.
Because it doesn't just affect you.
Right.
And so I wanted her to be a part of it at somesome way of like, hey.
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I wanted her to be acknowledged that this isthe reason why.
Right.
So, yeah, I mean, it is a slippery slope.
Plus, it was a it was a cop's bullet too.
That's the other thing.
I'm not, anti police.
I'm not anti gun.
So there was an agenda where if I, you know, ifI went to the media, the media would have
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yelled at it.
And, you know Oh, yeah.
And I was like, I don't wanna be a part of it.
Like so, you know, attorneys wouldn't touch it.
You know, it was just like, okay.
So it was like, as I was telling you about thisabandonment issue, all this stuff was coming
up.
It's it's like all this stuff of just not beingit's not being enough.
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It's about, like, you know, not feeling worthyor, like, they don't they don't care enough to
do it.
So
Yeah.
If I don't, I matter.
It matters to me.
Right.
And so I'm working through it.
My mindset coach is a pretty pretty big mindsetcoach.
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Good.
And so she's she's taken a very personal touchto it, and it's helping me a lot.
And I've only been working with her for abouttwo weeks, but I I manifested a relationship,
like, two months ago.
Oh, video with her.
So I'm starting to there's a lot of things I'mstarting to understand in this world that,
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like, I didn't know.
So Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot out there we don't know.
So I keep seeing your award right here, theKingdom Impact Award.
Yeah.
So
tell me about it.
So I'm just curious.
Like, he keeps drawing my attention.
I mean, I'm sure
Okay.
It's an extremely big word, and so I I justneeded to yep.
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So, in December of twenty twenty one, I waswatching a YouTube video.
I put three books up on Amazon because mydaughter said that I need to put the children's
book on that I wrote for her two children, andI didn't want to.
That was just for them.
I really didn't think anybody would like it.
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She kept telling me, no.
They would.
So I thought, well, I'll put these other booksthat I've written that I know people like and
see what happens, and nothing happened.
People told me they loved especially the onebook.
They loved my story.
They really loved it.
My one neighbor said, you have to write asecond story and give me the backstory on it.
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And so I thought, you know, like most peopledo, you put it on Amazon.
At least you're gonna sell a couple of books.
None of my relatives even bought the book.
Maybe it's because I let them read it.
I don't know.
But they wouldn't even buy the book, and it'slike, well, this is kind of frustrating.
So as I said, I'm watching the YouTube videos,and this ad comes on, which I usually never pay
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attention to them, that it was, are your bookshearing crickets on Amazon?
Have you tried to start businesses before andit just doesn't work?
And so I'm kind of checking yes on all theboxes, and I thought, you know, I've always
wanted to know how to run a businesssuccessfully, and I do want to get my books on
Amazon.
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So I joined the, I think it was an eight weekmastermind for with life on fire, and it just
opened up this whole world I didn't even knowexisted.
Didn't know that I needed an editor for mybook.
I thought editors were for newspapers andmagazines.
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Didn't know I needed great covers.
Didn't know anything.
And one of the things I had to do, which isactually what got me into podcasting, was I
needed to do a mastermind, a webinar, or asummit.
And I could understand a summit.
I didn't understand the other two.
So I had, on a Friday night, had eight guestspeakers over a four hour period, and I had
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more speakers than I needed to have.
So I started on Monday.
I started my first live video on Facebook, andthen it just kept growing.
And that's how I got to be podcasting.
But I got that award because I did all thethings, the steps that I was supposed to do in
order to get it.
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And I thought, great.
I've got this award.
It's gonna be wonderful.
I'm and and the other thing too is is I'dsigned up for the paid version of the class and
went through it, and that's really where theword came through.
And I thought everything's gonna fall intoplace.
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I'm gonna just start making money.
You know, at the end of six months, I am reallygonna be going strong, and I didn't.
It was I got the award.
I'm so proud of it.
I did the videos and and kept going, and thatwas it.
So it's but it wasn't it.
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It's everything is a process.
I had I didn't even know anybody who ran abusiness, let alone try to figure out how to do
one on my own.
I had a consumer mindset.
One day, I'm walking on the porch of the housefor a now, and we just got it last December.
And I said, you know what?
If I'm gonna do this, I have got to get rid ofmy consumer mindset and put in a business
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mindset.
So that's been an adjustment.
So that award, even though it was definitelywell earned, I worked hard for it.
It has gone beyond the award, and it reminds meeach day to just keep going, to keep improving,
keep learning all I can, and keep going.
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And I've got see, I'll move my chair this way.
And I've got all those other awards.
Oh, wow.
And so it's it's it's just they're not there toshow off, but they're there to remind me that I
am victorious, that I can do what I set my mindout to do, and just to keep going forward.
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But, yeah, that one draws a lot of people'sattention.
Well, that and also the the word kingdomusually means something spiritual or with
church.
And so, like, that's
It was very faith based.
I'm faith based.
Yes.
Me too.
In fact, I did something because I justthought, you know, Lord, what do you want me to
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do?
And he says, I want you to write a letter andsend it to everybody that joins in because I
have a gift for everybody that's on my podcast.
And so I wrote the letter.
And after I wrote it, I talked with anotherguest on a podcast who's also faith based.
When I got done, I have no idea why she didn'tknow about the letter.
I never mentioned it to her, but it's like thisdread came over my head and over me.
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And it's like, don't do the letter.
And so I've been struggling with that for a fewdays, and and I've really been praying about
it.
And so this morning in my bible study, Godshowed me passages that said, don't be afraid
to do what I've told you to do.
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Don't be afraid to step out even though you'rescared to just do it.
And it's like, okay.
But, yeah, a lot of people see the kingdom, andand I had no idea.
I had no idea.
I see kingdom on a lot of other things, and Ijust had no idea, what an impact that makes.
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So I'm not ashamed of the gospel.
I include it in everything that I can.
I don't purposely set out to take my bible andbeat everybody over the head, but I'm not gonna
hide from it.
I'm not gonna be ashamed about it.
That that trophy there, first time I was everin a speech competition, I got second place.
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And I talked about Peter and Jesus, but I tiedit into entrepreneurship.
And it was like and someone came up to meafterwards.
You know, I didn't think anything about itbecause it's just you know, God's so much a
part of me.
You can't separate us.
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But someone came up to me later and said, howdid you think of doing that?
What was the courage?
And I said, well, I think God told me.
He gave it to me.
And she said, I've been trying to figure outhow to talk to people about the Bible, and you
just opened up a door.
I never would have thought of doing it thatway.
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And it was like, wow.
That's interesting.
But
Well, you have another faith based entrepreneurhere.
So Awesome.
Yeah.
I'm meeting a lot of them.
Yeah.
So so my basketball stuff, actually, it itactually, all that came because I was just
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being faithful.
Nice.
But it was I I was on a mission trip and allday, like, the Asiences, all that stuff, they
came about because of me being on a trip.
So
Cool.
I love how, you know, when you look at thingsand you just see the hand of God and stuff, or
sometimes you're just watching things fall intoplace and you know it's the hand of God.
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I mean, there's there's really nothing thatlights me up more than that.
Right.
That's just awesome.
So
a friend of mine is head of an affiliateprogram for this new AI software.
Okay.
And there's a public valuation on that AIsoftware of $1,400,000,000.
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Right.
So, and the the guy who owns it is a Las VegasCasino Owner.
So there's money backing it.
That's the other thing.
You know?
Like, there's there's money there.
And he's gonna take it public in June, so he'strying to get that valuation.
Well, he is paying $60 for every paidsubscriber.
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Okay.
And the the subscription is only $15 a month.
And so I just wanna share it with you because,like, also, there's a there's a way to earn
money off of the free users also.
That's the other thing.
So I feel like, you know, I I'm sharing thisbecause with just to let you know, like, this
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is how I feel like everything is gonna befunded because it came out of nowhere.
Everything was extremely not expected.
I I have no like, I just see that, like, it'slike, be patient because we've had a couple of
hiccups, and it's like, oh, man.
I should already be here.
And it's like, no.
No.
No.
Just hang tight.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
So a month ago, I was actually at my friend'shouse in Texas.
I had never met him in person.
And his friend who is actually the person thatintroduced me to so it's just I I just knew him
online.
They were good people, great integrity people.
But then when I actually got in proximity ofthem, it just was like, oh, like, they're
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they're even better people in proximity thanthey are just online.
So I just wanna share that with you because itwas like, I'm a I'm a I'm not a homebody, but,
like, I'm fourth generation on this land inKentucky.
Like, this is truly home home.
Like, I've never lived outside of the state.
But that's why I just thought I'd share thatbecause, like, I've been sharing it with more
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I've been sharing it with people, but at thesame time, like, the people I really, really
wanna help or really, really support, I'm like,I I show them this.
I love to be able to help, a fellow sister.
That's what I was gonna say.
Like, it's a little different when it's likejust, you know, friends are friends, but people
who I know that are that are servants, like,I'm gonna give it to them first so they'll be
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able to get the first, you know, first goaround.
And and so but that the other thing I'll tellyou is if you're in the shooting, like, it
happened on my left hand side.
I kinda ducked, and I kinda, like I didn'tclose my eyes, but I blinked.
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Right?
And I saw this bright white light.
And I was like, I never told anybody about it.
I was just like and then I was talking tosomebody who, very faith based, and we were
talking and they're like, did you see angels?
They asked me.
Because, I mean, I'm driving 45 miles an hourdown the road.
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There's all these, like, you know, godwinks init.
And, you know, a lot of other people will just,you know, coincidences, whatever.
Yeah.
And and, like and I truly feel like I wasshielded that day.
And so I was sharing that with you.
Like, you know, I don't really share it veryoften.
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I've probably shared that maybe less than ahundred times just because it makes me like, I
don't know how to share it.
Because I know some people it turns off, somepeople it turns on.
Like, it's just so I just wanna let you know.
Like
Yeah.
I was in a car accident.
My daughter was driving, and I felt you know, Igot squished with a seat belt, broke my
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sternum.
And I felt my heart get squished, and the bloodsplurred out of it.
And everything I saw when my eyes were openedwere all it's like someone took all the colors,
and it was just swirling down a drain and allthe white that was behind it.
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And I and I said and I don't know if I said itout loud or not, but I said I can't go and
leave my daughter thinking that she killed me.
So I can't do that to her.
And so it was kind of a a talk, I guess.
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But, anyways, while I I'm saying this, and Ionly say it, like, a couple of times.
You know?
It's like, well, you can't don't take me nowbecause I don't want her living with this the
rest of her life.
Right.
I felt my heart go back.
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I felt the blood go back in it, and I felt itbe stitched up.
And and I could open my eyes without it hurtingfrom the white light.
So saying you saw that white, I get it.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's Yeah.
That that's amazing.
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Like, I felt I felt compelled to tell you that,and then you had a story.
That is amazing How Yeah.
And we've got the Holy Spirit.
It connects us all.
It knows when it's safe and when it's not.
And the reason you have it on the anniversaryis not to remember it, but to honor your your
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life and your niece's life by helping othersbecause I think that's what you want your book
to do.
You want it to help others.
I'm not sure how you want it to help them, butbut there's something in it that's going to
help other people.
Yeah.
So so that's kind of my purpose is to helpothers.
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And, like, I mean, I really have twoanniversaries.
I have the misdiagnosis on the March 8.
Right.
And then I have May 16, which is the shooting.
I really I haven't thought about that.
I haven't really thought of it as marketing.
The, what I was gonna tell you too was I'm I'mjust starting to be okay with with this, but
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I'm also starting to be okay with, like, beingan influencer.
So I don't like the word influencer.
I I I like the word inspirer a lot better.
Oh, that's good.
I'm just starting to get the get okay with it.
And so my process of healing and all that hasbeen because I'm gonna tell you.
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Like, I go put those stories out on TikTok, I'mgonna get a million views.
Like
Yeah.
At at some point, I'm gonna be at a millionviews.
And so the, my mindset coach, she's like Isaid, she's been on she's been on Netflix.
Her niece is, like, the highest paid collegeathlete right now.
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Wow.
And, you know, she's a gymnast.
I mean, she was on cover Sports Illustrated.
I'm like, she helped her niece get there.
And so I just talked to her, and I'm like, I Idon't wanna just go straight up and poof.
Right?
I wanna go straight up and still keep going up.
Yeah.
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But I'm also like, to fuel a rocket ship, youstill have to fuel it.
You still have to prepare it.
So I'm just in the preparation stage.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And, you know, like I told you, the anger, thegrief that came up, you know, the abandonment
that came up this week, which it really justcame up a couple hours ago.
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It's just like I mean, it revealed itself, butit also, like, it was revealing itself all
week.
I just didn't acknowledge it.
Can can I give you suggestion when somethingcomes up?
Yeah.
Find a bible verse that's the opposite.
Like, if you're feeling abandonment, find thebible verse where Jesus says that you're his
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own, where God says you are my own.
You're not abandoned.
You're my child.
It helps a lot of people, you know, talk withyour your therapist, whoever you're talking
with, make sure that's okay with them because Idon't wanna step on any toes.
So so I was gonna let you know.
I so I pretty much have, like I don't I don'tdo Western reticence anymore.
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Talk therapy is kinda like I I I have a friendof mine who's a master hypnotist.
I worked with him Cool.
One session.
Actually, I'll share this.
Like, so I did a recording, and my confidencechanged.
I'm usually this is me set like, this chairslouches, so it's like but my posture changed.
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I learned how to walk on my toes.
Like, I walked on my toes for all my entirelife.
I do not walk on my toes anymore.
Oh, wow.
So there's
all these things that, like and then what I Itold my mom when she woke up the next morning,
she told me that, she felt like she had herslime back.
Wow.
And that's off of a recording.
And then when two days later when I met withhim, we actually, you know, the traumas, I
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don't I can talk about them, and I don't getupset.
So, I mean and and so here's the other thing isis, like, God puts these people in our place,
like, a cross path.
Like, so and I know there's I had somebody whowas like, I can't believe you did hypnosis.
Like, you're a Christian.
And I'm like, dude, like, do you think thatthousands and thousands of years ago that that
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wasn't medicine?
Like, you know, there's certain things thatare, like, a little bit where people just
don't.
If they don't know or they don't understand,then it was it's demonic.
Or and it's like, it's not demonic at all.
Like, I talk about it in the Bible all thetime.
Right.
And and I think the one thing that is is awarning about hypnosis is, one, you're giving
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your mind over to somebody else.
And and God warns us about that.
But you've had a horrific trauma happen to you,and it's not gonna go away on its own.
So if you can find a way that is gonna work foryou, and god's gonna protect you, you're his
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child.
It's not like you're just saying, oh, I don'tcare what God says.
I'm just gonna go do this because it'ssomething I want to do.
You're finding a way to heal.
So you have to make it right in your heart withGod no matter what anybody else says because
everybody's gonna have an opinion.
But that's between you and God.
And you can say, you know, thank you.
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I appreciate your concern.
I really do.
But this is what the way God wanted me to heal.
Right.
And so I just was letting you know, like,that's kinda this has been the journey, and I'm
a journey person.
Like, so I I realize I'm on a marathon, andI'm, like, on mile two.
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Like, I'm not I'm not overexerting myself.
Way to put it.
Yeah.
I mean so I'm like, I know.
And then I met you this weekend, right, on the,is that when we met?
Yeah.
On on Manny's thing, I think it was.
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Oh, no.
No.
You're right.
Manny's thing.
So I went to another so I went to another bigevent this weekend.
Okay.
And I met with this coach.
And so she told me what she felt like was myfinal product or, you know, like, my finished
product.
Not final.
My finished product.
Yeah.
And she, compared me to somebody who, you know,was a New York Times bestseller a couple of
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times and, like Awesome.
A podcaster.
Was like, you have a powerful, powerful story.
She's like, you just you still are cluelessright now of what the type of impact you're
gonna have.
She's like, I can foresee it.
Like, I can see it.
She goes
Wow.
She called me charismatic, and I'm like thefirst thing I was like, I'm not really
charismatic.
Like and then I was talking to some people, andthey're like, Duane, you're very charismatic.
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Like, you're very welcoming.
And I was like, okay.
There you go.
There's your affirmations.
Your confirmation.
So it's the confirm yes.
It's the confirmations of it.
And and like I told you, I'm I'm just gettingokay with it.
Like, it's funny I'm wearing this, like,Superman shirt.
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Right?
But that's really how I felt.
It was like, I'm Clark Kent.
I ripped the shirt open, fly around, save thecity, come back.
I'm Clark Kent.
And I would always wanna be Clark Kent.
Right.
And now I realize, hey.
I can be I'm still Superman if I'm Clark Kent.
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Yeah.
You're just not wearing a cape.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's once once that switch turned, it waslike, I'm not changing.
I'm not changing.
And that was the whole thing.
It was like, wow.
That was the epiphany.
That God equips those he calls.
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He doesn't call equipped.
They might be equipped in some things, but whenhe calls somebody, he's gonna make sure you've
got everything you need even if it'sconfidence.
Right.
So that was the other thing too is, like, Iknew that.
But I also knew I had these gifts, and I, like,I just I didn't wanna be a speaker.
That's what I was gonna tell you.
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It's, like, I did not want it.
I've spoken to I spoke in front of 5,000 peopleat nineteen.
And, like, people are, like, always, like,you'd be such a great speaker.
Now I didn't, and when I say I don't I didn'twanna be, I was doing like, I went to a Bible
college.
I went to, like, I went on 50 interviews to bea youth minister.
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Okay?
Wow.
And I was declined every single time.
So I was like, okay.
I don't need to be doing this now.
And so I just my calling was to be obedient.
Mhmm.
So I was just like, okay.
Like, and I don't wanna be I you know, like, II never felt led to be a pastor.
That's the other thing.
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I never felt led to be, like, a leadership overa church.
See, I live in the Bible Belt.
Like, I was a little smack dab in the inKentucky, and I was smack dab in the middle of
the bottle Bible Belt.
Yeah.
There's more churches here than anywhere else.
There's I mean, that's, like, the business.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
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And it's like, okay.
Y'all don't want me, but yet, you know, I havethese.
And, honestly, that's that's been one of theextreme extreme parts of the story of is like,
okay.
Y'all don't really want me, but, like,everybody else are nationally wants me here
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globally.
Like, so I don't So maybe
that's where your church is.
Right.
And so that's what I was gonna say.
Was like Right.
And so that's the thing is is, like, I'm juststarting to come comfortable with it all again
coming back.
And it it truly is a full circle moment.
Like, I was doing this at 19.
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Like, friend of mine, he just got accepted intothe John Maxwell group.
Oh, nice.
And and he was like, oh, this is, a reallygreat big deal.
I was like I was like, dude, I could've metJohn Maxwell at 19.
And he could've hung out with him, had lunch.
He's like, why didn't you?
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I was like, it just didn't materialize.
But I was just telling him, like, I've alwayshad a huge respect.
But I'm just letting you know, like, I could'vehad that back then.
And, you know, it just wasn't Yeah.
It wasn't the time.
Right.
The timing.
But it was just like he was making such a bigdeal to this guy, and I was like, yeah, man.
I could have done this.
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Like, he he he couldn't believe it.
You know?
He was like he couldn't believe it.
I was like, yeah.
I was like, dude, I, like I I know a lot ofpeople that are high high in the church.
And then so the other thing is is, Doctor.
Tony Evans.
Mhmm.
So I went and saw him preach in Dallas when Iwas And he preached the same sermon that I
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preached two weeks prior.
The same exact one.
Wow.
Because it it was about it's funny saying thisnow because it's about rebounding and being
resilient and catching the ball, picking it up,shooting, miss, pick it up until you put it in
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a basket.
And I was just like, I and somewhere in myhouse
Dude, did you steal my speech?
I mean, it's pretty much same versuseverything.
Here's the other crazy thing about it.
Somewhere in this house, I have that program,and I had him sign it.
Oh, nice.
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Yes.
And I was like I was like, sir, I was like Iwas like, I preached a sermon two weeks ago.
And he said he said, I will pray for you.
And he is like, gonna pray for your impact.
Awesome.
We're talking about this full circle moment,and maybe I had to go the very, very long route
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to get here.
But, like
Yeah.
Because you never know what God needs toprepare you for.
And maybe because you didn't do that, this hasbeen your preparation time.
And now you're ready.
Now he says, okay.
I can open the door for you.
So that's pretty awesome.
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Yeah.
And so that's kinda where I'm at.
It's like I'm just trying I mean, I hate toworry trying.
I'm attempting to get this all figured out.
And I also I'm in the season of allow and nothow.
So, like, when people ask me how I'm doingstuff, I'm like, I don't know.
I mean, you know, it is true.
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I'm being transparent, but I'm not planning itout.
Just let God do it.
Right.
So I'm not planning it out.
I'm just saying, hey.
If this opportunity comes by, then I'm gonnaallow it.
So oh, no.
I've I've I've gotten, like in the last week,two weeks, I've gotten, like, five podcasts
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that want me on.
And I have, like, I think nine out of the thetwo weeks that said have reached out and then,
like, tried to get some type of conversationabout it.
So
Wow.
That's so cool.
So thank you so much.
Let's definitely talk again.
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Oh, good.
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Okay?
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I just know whenever I talk, like, I heardabout you, like, I wanted to meet.
I can't remember if it was for a Manny's eventor another event.
I just was like, hey.
That that's a bad thing about sometimes you getin these meetings.
(00:26):
We're like, okay.
But but I usually do not I do not, like, createa meeting unless I feel like, hey.
There's something I want to learn about themor, like, they resonate.
If they don't resonate with me, I don't even dothat.
Yeah.
I was gonna say.
Yeah.
I know.
We need to value our time.
(00:46):
I'm I'm reading a book, one sixty eight.
Oh, where'd you go?
And it's a a real book.
It's not on on my phone, so I have to look forit.
It's called The One Sixty Eight Game with BillCorman, and it's about owning your time.
Wow.
Okay.
(01:08):
Really good book.
My grandson and I actually started reading ittogether, and then he had to go join the navy
and went to boot camp.
So we'll have to pick it up when he gets getsdone.
But
So it's the one six eight game, or was it thegame?
Okay.
The one six eight game.
(01:31):
I've I've I've got it saved, so I'll look at itafterwards.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what what do you do?
I do a lot.
Good.
But, like, I I do many, many things.
But, like, what I'm what what I would like tosay the most I do and, like, what I feel the
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most, purpose is I'm an inspirational speaker.
We got two stories of resiliency that arepretty powerful.
And then because, like, with basketball, I haveI I help teach athletes mental performance.
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And so I taught myself how to do that.
And I went you know, that's really that's how Igot to accomplish my dream is I was just really
good at something, but I taught myself.
And then I do AI and automation stuff, andthat's kinda how to pay the bills.
(02:42):
Also, I'm in a very rare air with those peopletoo because I'm friends with people who beta
tested CHATGBT and beta tested open AI.
So Oh, nice.
It just lets you know, like, there's only ahundred people there's only a hundred people
that beta test open AI stuff.
So definitely know I'm in rare air with that.
And so, traffic in my chair.
(03:08):
The so I I can't remember.
Like, so my part part of my story is thetraumatic stuff I've been through.
You know, I was diagnosed with a blood cancerat 29.
Mhmm.
I was told I only have fifteen years to live.
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I decided not to have a wife, family, all thatstuff.
And then in March of this year, I found out Iwas misdiagnosed.
So Wonderful.
Yeah.
So a couple of months ago, I really got the allclear.
But, like, in March, I was just making thesesmall steps and, like, elevating myself.
And I also was dealing with another trauma.
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I was involved in a police shooting.
I got caught up in the crossfire.
Oh.
And, I was in the eighth of an inch from losingmy life for an eighth of an inch.
If the bullet went went to the left, it wouldgot me.
But when we went to the right, it would havegot my little niece who was three years old at
the time.
Oh, wow.
So the perfect situation happened, but,unfortunately, I still had traumatic issues to
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deal with.
I was dealing with survivor's guilt and PTSD.
And so it's kinda just in a big funk.
And then in March, however spirituality youare, God, universe, he, you know, he let me
know.
I mean, I was almost like desolence.
And I thought, hey.
You know, anytime I'm gonna pass away.
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And so I'm healthy.
I've always been grateful.
That's the other thing is I've always beengrateful.
I know other people had at work you know, hadworse.
So I always lived in that gratitude space.
And I always moved.
That's what I was gonna say is, like, I alwayswas moving.
It might not have been a lot, but it was alittle bit of movement.
Yep.
And so the misdiagnosis, I was could have beencleared up in a month.
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I just only have sleep apnea.
That's it.
Severe sleep apnea.
Right.
And so I'm trying to catch up for all that losttime.
And, you know, the faster, the better.
But, also, I I have to I have to focus onhealing too, so that's the other thing.
(05:25):
Right.
So, and I know you have a ton of books.
I also know you, like, write and and and dothat stuff.
And, like, that's what I'm kinda looking for.
I'm looking to write a book, looking toprobably two or three, honestly.
Okay.
It's just I mean, I've I've I've I've sat downwith quite a few people already, but I just
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when I resonate with somebody, I'm like, hey.
I wanna see what's out there, see who resonatesthe best.
And, like, I feel through prayer and meditationthat, like, it gets worked out.
And so Yeah.
The biggest thing for me is financially is myfinances are wrecked because of this.
(06:06):
And I found out Friday it's either Friday orlast Friday.
I can't remember.
It's actually pretty freeing, but I just foundout, hey.
I probably a lawsuit's not gonna bring youmoney.
It's not gonna bring any of this stuff back.
So I don't know if I'm even gonna pursue it.
There's a there's a part of me that wants theaccountability to be like, hey.
You should be accountable for your actions.
(06:28):
Right.
But, honestly, I don't know if I really wannadeal with it.
I don't know if I just wanna the other thing isI'll probably have to sign an NDA and all that
shit, and I don't wanna do that.
I'll just be honest.
Like, I just wanna be able to put my truth out.
The truth is truth.
Right.
So you can't really you know?
So that's kinda where I'm at.
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It's like, I'm just trying to overcome thisreal these really bad situations.
And, it's kinda funny this week.
Actually, abandonment kinda came up because Iwas abandoned by a lot of people.
Yeah.
And so I'm working on that I'm working on thatstuff.
A couple weeks ago, angry and grief came up.
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And so, you know, so I'm working through it.
So that's kinda where I'm at is, like, I'm justI have a ton of opportunity.
A lot of doors have opened up for me and stufflike that.
Good.
And, I met Bill Walsh a few weeks ago oractually a month ago, and Bill told me, like,
hey, dude.
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You should already have a book.
Like, you know, that's for notoriety and forauthority.
But he's like he's like, you you need, like,two or three.
And he's like, I don't think you're gonna stopat two and three.
He's like, I think you'll have multiple.
But he's like, so I started writing, and hetold me he was like, the biggest thing I would
tell you to do, like, right now is to build abook cover.
(07:50):
And so that's what I've done.
I've got a book cover already.
And, you know, I I don't have, like, a time toannounce or anything like that.
It's just more TVA, but it's just something tobring, you know, that I'm working on it.
So I'm a be quiet.
Let you just kinda see what resonates with you.
And
Yeah.
So what's your book about, the one that you'rewriting right now?
(08:16):
It's about 02/2024 right now.
It's got some of the stories from the past,like, but it really is more about this journey
part.
Okay.
And and, honestly, I really don't know if I'llput the journey of 02/2024 in it.
I think it's just gonna be a part of it, andit's gonna have more of the backstory.
(08:40):
Okay.
And then they get you ready for the next book.
Right.
And so I I really have been kinda in betweenwhich one I wanted to put out first.
Like, I wanna put out 02/2024 becauseeverybody's experience has come back.
It's called the it's called the bounce backseason is the name of it.
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And it's you know, because of the basketball,it's like so and I'm not sure if I wanna put a
subtitle or any of that stuff.
I mean, I'm very I'm very open to, like,suggestions and all that stuff.
I'm not like, it's gonna be this way.
It's gotta be this way.
I'm not I'm really not Good.
(09:25):
Because I don't don't either.
Yeah.
I know I know some some publishers do that.
They want it a certain way.
They and part of it is because they've been inthe business a long time.
They know what sells, but that doesn't meanthat other stuff doesn't sell either because it
does.
Right.
So the things you need to to figure out with abook is, one, you have to figure out who you're
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talking to.
And and I always give the chair example.
Who's sitting in the chair?
There's a chair right in front of you.
Who's sitting in it?
Who are you talking to every time you write thebook?
Who do you picture in your mind?
And this is a person you know how much moneythey make.
You know if they don't make any money, if ifthey're retired, if they're a bum, if they're
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not a bum, but they just, you know, choose alife that they don't have to make money,
whatever that part is.
Is it a girl?
Is it a boy?
What color of hair do they have?
Is it long?
Is it short?
Do they color it or leave it natural?
Do they have family?
Do they have siblings?
Mom, dad?
You know?
Are they what's their ancestor?
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I mean, you know everything there is to knowabout this person better than you know
yourself.
You know their favorite foods.
Now the reason you do that, and this workswhether you're writing a book, giving a speech,
giving a talk.
It helps you focus on one thing, one person.
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So that gives your story clarity.
That gives your story the ability to reallyunveil itself because you only have to tell it
to one person.
And does that mean that only that one persongets the story?
No.
But what you've done is now you have given thefocus, the clarity, the you've given them the
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story, but in a way that no matter who readsthe book, they're gonna get it because it
flows.
It makes sense.
You're not trying to tell a hundred people thesame story a hundred different ways.
It's just one.
The other thing you want to look at is what isthe reader going to get out of it?
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What is the purpose that that you want someoneto read the book?
What are they gonna take with them?
And and you already know your why.
Why are you telling the story?
When you're telling it because someone told youto.
But your why of why you're telling thisparticular story is going to really pull
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everything from you that you need to get thestory told.
So if if you're telling the story to show youhave authority in a subject or just to get
recognized or using it as a business card,which is a great thing to do, all of those are
good, But you really need to know why am Iwriting this particular story.
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Out of all the stories I could write, what isit about this?
So you've got the person you're writing to.
You know what that person what you want thatperson to take out of the book, and you know
why you're writing the book.
You know, it's kind of kind of like, what dothey call it, the fire triangle.
You've got three parts.
You've got food, you've got air, and you've gotheat.
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And so those are the things you're putting inthere.
The food is what the person is getting from it.
The heat is what you're pouring into it, andthe air is the person you're talking to.
When you've got those strings things going,it's gonna be really good.
Now if you've got the cover for it, that'sgreat.
You may write your book and realize, you know,I want a different cover.
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So that's okay.
So don't don't worry about things like thatuntil your book is is really done.
Not ready not printed done, but ready to go tothe publisher or the printer.
So that's the other thing.
There is the printer, the one who actuallyprints the book, and the publisher is the one
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who helps you get your book out into the world,either on Amazon, IngramSpark's, however you
want to do it.
Now Amazon really is a printer, not apublisher.
You are the publisher if you're gonna do ityourself.
If you go through me, I'm a hybrid publisher,vanity publisher.
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It's just you either have self publishing,traditional publishing, or the hybrid vanity
publisher.
There's nothing in between.
Now there are as many different publishers asthere are personalities, so you have to go with
somebody that you feel comfortable with, thatyou feel is going to let your book get where it
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needs to go, that they're not going to say,well, this is really good, but we like this
better.
And you've got a lot of stuff in here.
We're gonna rearrange things.
That can get frustrating.
I'm talking with a gentleman right now that Iunderstand both sides of the story.
I understand why the publisher doesn't wannagive him 10 different versions of the cover
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because that's expensive.
Coverage usually cost $400 a piece, and that'sat the minimum unless you're doing it yourself,
and then that's a different story.
But to have someone come in and do a cover is400 a piece.
So they don't wanna do four hundred or twenty,ten different covers.
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Now this person is a designer himself.
So that's what he gives his customers, but it'sdifferent.
So you have to look at at what they're gonna dofor you.
What's the publisher gonna do for you?
What are their promises?
Do they promise to make you a number onebestseller on Amazon?
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Do they promise to help you with marketingafter the book?
And and all of it costs money.
If you're gonna do marketing on top ofpublishing on Amazon, it's gonna cost more
because there's more that's poured into it.
So it depends on what you want done.
What do you want done with your book once youhave it written?
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I'll be honest.
I really don't know.
Okay.
And I don't like, I so I'm I'm one of thosehonest tran I'm, like, super honest and super
transparent.
I'm a really good What you see is what you get.
Yeah.
I mean, so, like, authenticity is, like, mynumber one characteristic.
And then the second one's integrity, and thenthe next one's, like, justice, and the next
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one's, like, compassion.
And so I just kinda roll with those things,but, like, I'm extremely transparent about
things.
And, like, if I don't know it, I don't know.
And I'm also, like, I'm going yeah.
As you know, like I just told you, I'm goingthrough a lot.
And I was told as I write this book, there'sgonna be a lot of healing and stuff like that.
And There is.
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Even just in the even just the little bit thatI wrote is, like, been extremely healing.
Yeah.
I'm extremely close to her anyway.
I was already extremely close to her, but afterthe shooting, we're even more extremely close.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And so
How is she doing with it all?
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Lucky for her, she doesn't recall a lot of it,but she doesn't talk about it.
Now she talked to me about it for the firstyear, year and a half.
But after that, she kinda let it alone.
I'm kinda I'm kinda waiting on that day inschool when she's, like, talking about, you
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know, being shot at or, like, she wasn't shotat, but the you know, she was on the crossfire
of a gun.
Right.
And so, yeah, I don't know how how that I wannareact to that.
And I don't know how I I can tell you thatshe's a fearful kid.
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So, like, I assumed that had something to dowith it.
And you know?
Yeah.
It's an unknown thing that all of a suddenhappened, and she didn't understand it at the
time.
Right.
She's still trying to figure it out.
Right.
So she's six right now.
So, you know, I'm not really sure.
I I know Just give me minute.
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Know when kinda making it a little bit morepublic, I asked her, and I said, hey.
You know that thing that we went through?
Is it o And she said, yeah.
Cool.
And I was like, well, listen.
I was like, it could be very big, hopefully.
Like, I need you to know.
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Like, I just need you to know.
Like, I'm only doing this to help others.
And I told my brother, and my brother's like,why'd you bring it up?
And I'm like, I needed her permission.
She was there.
It's just me and her.
Like
Yeah.
Because it doesn't just affect you.
Right.
And so I wanted her to be a part of it at somesome way of like, hey.
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I wanted her to be acknowledged that this isthe reason why.
Right.
So, yeah, I mean, it is a slippery slope.
Plus, it was a it was a cop's bullet too.
That's the other thing.
I'm not, anti police.
I'm not anti gun.
So there was an agenda where if I, you know, ifI went to the media, the media would have
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yelled at it.
And, you know Oh, yeah.
And I was like, I don't wanna be a part of it.
Like so, you know, attorneys wouldn't touch it.
You know, it was just like, okay.
So it was like, as I was telling you about thisabandonment issue, all this stuff was coming
up.
It's it's like all this stuff of just not beingit's not being enough.
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It's about, like, you know, not feeling worthyor, like, they don't they don't care enough to
do it.
So
Yeah.
If I don't, I matter.
It matters to me.
Right.
And so I'm working through it.
My mindset coach is a pretty pretty big mindsetcoach.
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Good.
And so she's she's taken a very personal touchto it, and it's helping me a lot.
And I've only been working with her for abouttwo weeks, but I I manifested a relationship,
like, two months ago.
Oh, video with her.
So I'm starting to there's a lot of things I'mstarting to understand in this world that,
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like, I didn't know.
So Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot out there we don't know.
So I keep seeing your award right here, theKingdom Impact Award.
Yeah.
So
tell me about it.
So I'm just curious.
Like, he keeps drawing my attention.
I mean, I'm sure
Okay.
It's an extremely big word, and so I I justneeded to yep.
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So, in December of twenty twenty one, I waswatching a YouTube video.
I put three books up on Amazon because mydaughter said that I need to put the children's
book on that I wrote for her two children, andI didn't want to.
That was just for them.
I really didn't think anybody would like it.
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She kept telling me, no.
They would.
So I thought, well, I'll put these other booksthat I've written that I know people like and
see what happens, and nothing happened.
People told me they loved especially the onebook.
They loved my story.
They really loved it.
My one neighbor said, you have to write asecond story and give me the backstory on it.
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And so I thought, you know, like most peopledo, you put it on Amazon.
At least you're gonna sell a couple of books.
None of my relatives even bought the book.
Maybe it's because I let them read it.
I don't know.
But they wouldn't even buy the book, and it'slike, well, this is kind of frustrating.
So as I said, I'm watching the YouTube videos,and this ad comes on, which I usually never pay
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attention to them, that it was, are your bookshearing crickets on Amazon?
Have you tried to start businesses before andit just doesn't work?
And so I'm kind of checking yes on all theboxes, and I thought, you know, I've always
wanted to know how to run a businesssuccessfully, and I do want to get my books on
Amazon.
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So I joined the, I think it was an eight weekmastermind for with life on fire, and it just
opened up this whole world I didn't even knowexisted.
Didn't know that I needed an editor for mybook.
I thought editors were for newspapers andmagazines.
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Didn't know I needed great covers.
Didn't know anything.
And one of the things I had to do, which isactually what got me into podcasting, was I
needed to do a mastermind, a webinar, or asummit.
And I could understand a summit.
I didn't understand the other two.
So I had, on a Friday night, had eight guestspeakers over a four hour period, and I had
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more speakers than I needed to have.
So I started on Monday.
I started my first live video on Facebook, andthen it just kept growing.
And that's how I got to be podcasting.
But I got that award because I did all thethings, the steps that I was supposed to do in
order to get it.
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And I thought, great.
I've got this award.
It's gonna be wonderful.
I'm and and the other thing too is is I'dsigned up for the paid version of the class and
went through it, and that's really where theword came through.
And I thought everything's gonna fall intoplace.
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I'm gonna just start making money.
You know, at the end of six months, I am reallygonna be going strong, and I didn't.
It was I got the award.
I'm so proud of it.
I did the videos and and kept going, and thatwas it.
So it's but it wasn't it.
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It's everything is a process.
I had I didn't even know anybody who ran abusiness, let alone try to figure out how to do
one on my own.
I had a consumer mindset.
One day, I'm walking on the porch of the housefor a now, and we just got it last December.
And I said, you know what?
If I'm gonna do this, I have got to get rid ofmy consumer mindset and put in a business
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mindset.
So that's been an adjustment.
So that award, even though it was definitelywell earned, I worked hard for it.
It has gone beyond the award, and it reminds meeach day to just keep going, to keep improving,
keep learning all I can, and keep going.
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And I've got see, I'll move my chair this way.
And I've got all those other awards.
Oh, wow.
And so it's it's it's just they're not there toshow off, but they're there to remind me that I
am victorious, that I can do what I set my mindout to do, and just to keep going forward.
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But, yeah, that one draws a lot of people'sattention.
Well, that and also the the word kingdomusually means something spiritual or with
church.
And so, like, that's
It was very faith based.
I'm faith based.
Yes.
Me too.
In fact, I did something because I justthought, you know, Lord, what do you want me to
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do?
And he says, I want you to write a letter andsend it to everybody that joins in because I
have a gift for everybody that's on my podcast.
And so I wrote the letter.
And after I wrote it, I talked with anotherguest on a podcast who's also faith based.
When I got done, I have no idea why she didn'tknow about the letter.
I never mentioned it to her, but it's like thisdread came over my head and over me.
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And it's like, don't do the letter.
And so I've been struggling with that for a fewdays, and and I've really been praying about
it.
And so this morning in my bible study, Godshowed me passages that said, don't be afraid
to do what I've told you to do.
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Don't be afraid to step out even though you'rescared to just do it.
And it's like, okay.
But, yeah, a lot of people see the kingdom, andand I had no idea.
I had no idea.
I see kingdom on a lot of other things, and Ijust had no idea, what an impact that makes.
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So I'm not ashamed of the gospel.
I include it in everything that I can.
I don't purposely set out to take my bible andbeat everybody over the head, but I'm not gonna
hide from it.
I'm not gonna be ashamed about it.
That that trophy there, first time I was everin a speech competition, I got second place.
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And I talked about Peter and Jesus, but I tiedit into entrepreneurship.
And it was like and someone came up to meafterwards.
You know, I didn't think anything about itbecause it's just you know, God's so much a
part of me.
You can't separate us.
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But someone came up to me later and said, howdid you think of doing that?
What was the courage?
And I said, well, I think God told me.
He gave it to me.
And she said, I've been trying to figure outhow to talk to people about the Bible, and you
just opened up a door.
I never would have thought of doing it thatway.
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And it was like, wow.
That's interesting.
But
Well, you have another faith based entrepreneurhere.
So Awesome.
Yeah.
I'm meeting a lot of them.
Yeah.
So so my basketball stuff, actually, it itactually, all that came because I was just
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being faithful.
Nice.
But it was I I was on a mission trip and allday, like, the Asiences, all that stuff, they
came about because of me being on a trip.
So
Cool.
I love how, you know, when you look at thingsand you just see the hand of God and stuff, or
sometimes you're just watching things fall intoplace and you know it's the hand of God.
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I mean, there's there's really nothing thatlights me up more than that.
Right.
That's just awesome.
So
a friend of mine is head of an affiliateprogram for this new AI software.
Okay.
And there's a public valuation on that AIsoftware of $1,400,000,000.
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Right.
So, and the the guy who owns it is a Las VegasCasino Owner.
So there's money backing it.
That's the other thing.
You know?
Like, there's there's money there.
And he's gonna take it public in June, so he'strying to get that valuation.
Well, he is paying $60 for every paidsubscriber.
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Okay.
And the the subscription is only $15 a month.
And so I just wanna share it with you because,like, also, there's a there's a way to earn
money off of the free users also.
That's the other thing.
So I feel like, you know, I I'm sharing thisbecause with just to let you know, like, this
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is how I feel like everything is gonna befunded because it came out of nowhere.
Everything was extremely not expected.
I I have no like, I just see that, like, it'slike, be patient because we've had a couple of
hiccups, and it's like, oh, man.
I should already be here.
And it's like, no.
No.
No.
Just hang tight.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
So a month ago, I was actually at my friend'shouse in Texas.
I had never met him in person.
And his friend who is actually the person thatintroduced me to so it's just I I just knew him
online.
They were good people, great integrity people.
But then when I actually got in proximity ofthem, it just was like, oh, like, they're
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they're even better people in proximity thanthey are just online.
So I just wanna share that with you because itwas like, I'm a I'm a I'm not a homebody, but,
like, I'm fourth generation on this land inKentucky.
Like, this is truly home home.
Like, I've never lived outside of the state.
But that's why I just thought I'd share thatbecause, like, I've been sharing it with more
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I've been sharing it with people, but at thesame time, like, the people I really, really
wanna help or really, really support, I'm like,I I show them this.
I love to be able to help, a fellow sister.
That's what I was gonna say.
Like, it's a little different when it's likejust, you know, friends are friends, but people
who I know that are that are servants, like,I'm gonna give it to them first so they'll be
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able to get the first, you know, first goaround.
And and so but that the other thing I'll tellyou is if you're in the shooting, like, it
happened on my left hand side.
I kinda ducked, and I kinda, like I didn'tclose my eyes, but I blinked.
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Right?
And I saw this bright white light.
And I was like, I never told anybody about it.
I was just like and then I was talking tosomebody who, very faith based, and we were
talking and they're like, did you see angels?
They asked me.
Because, I mean, I'm driving 45 miles an hourdown the road.
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There's all these, like, you know, godwinks init.
And, you know, a lot of other people will just,you know, coincidences, whatever.
Yeah.
And and, like and I truly feel like I wasshielded that day.
And so I was sharing that with you.
Like, you know, I don't really share it veryoften.
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I've probably shared that maybe less than ahundred times just because it makes me like, I
don't know how to share it.
Because I know some people it turns off, somepeople it turns on.
Like, it's just so I just wanna let you know.
Like
Yeah.
I was in a car accident.
My daughter was driving, and I felt you know, Igot squished with a seat belt, broke my
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sternum.
And I felt my heart get squished, and the bloodsplurred out of it.
And everything I saw when my eyes were openedwere all it's like someone took all the colors,
and it was just swirling down a drain and allthe white that was behind it.
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And I and I said and I don't know if I said itout loud or not, but I said I can't go and
leave my daughter thinking that she killed me.
So I can't do that to her.
And so it was kind of a a talk, I guess.
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But, anyways, while I I'm saying this, and Ionly say it, like, a couple of times.
You know?
It's like, well, you can't don't take me nowbecause I don't want her living with this the
rest of her life.
Right.
I felt my heart go back.
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I felt the blood go back in it, and I felt itbe stitched up.
And and I could open my eyes without it hurtingfrom the white light.
So saying you saw that white, I get it.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's Yeah.
That that's amazing.
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Like, I felt I felt compelled to tell you that,and then you had a story.
That is amazing How Yeah.
And we've got the Holy Spirit.
It connects us all.
It knows when it's safe and when it's not.
And the reason you have it on the anniversaryis not to remember it, but to honor your your
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life and your niece's life by helping othersbecause I think that's what you want your book
to do.
You want it to help others.
I'm not sure how you want it to help them, butbut there's something in it that's going to
help other people.
Yeah.
So so that's kind of my purpose is to helpothers.
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And, like, I mean, I really have twoanniversaries.
I have the misdiagnosis on the March 8.
Right.
And then I have May 16, which is the shooting.
I really I haven't thought about that.
I haven't really thought of it as marketing.
The, what I was gonna tell you too was I'm I'mjust starting to be okay with with this, but
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I'm also starting to be okay with, like, beingan influencer.
So I don't like the word influencer.
I I I like the word inspirer a lot better.
Oh, that's good.
I'm just starting to get the get okay with it.
And so my process of healing and all that hasbeen because I'm gonna tell you.
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Like, I go put those stories out on TikTok, I'mgonna get a million views.
Like
Yeah.
At at some point, I'm gonna be at a millionviews.
And so the, my mindset coach, she's like Isaid, she's been on she's been on Netflix.
Her niece is, like, the highest paid collegeathlete right now.
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Wow.
And, you know, she's a gymnast.
I mean, she was on cover Sports Illustrated.
I'm like, she helped her niece get there.
And so I just talked to her, and I'm like, I Idon't wanna just go straight up and poof.
Right?
I wanna go straight up and still keep going up.
Yeah.
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But I'm also like, to fuel a rocket ship, youstill have to fuel it.
You still have to prepare it.
So I'm just in the preparation stage.
Yep.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And, you know, like I told you, the anger, thegrief that came up, you know, the abandonment
that came up this week, which it really justcame up a couple hours ago.
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It's just like I mean, it revealed itself, butit also, like, it was revealing itself all
week.
I just didn't acknowledge it.
Can can I give you suggestion when somethingcomes up?
Yeah.
Find a bible verse that's the opposite.
Like, if you're feeling abandonment, find thebible verse where Jesus says that you're his
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own, where God says you are my own.
You're not abandoned.
You're my child.
It helps a lot of people, you know, talk withyour your therapist, whoever you're talking
with, make sure that's okay with them because Idon't wanna step on any toes.
So so I was gonna let you know.
I so I pretty much have, like I don't I don'tdo Western reticence anymore.
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Talk therapy is kinda like I I I have a friendof mine who's a master hypnotist.
I worked with him Cool.
One session.
Actually, I'll share this.
Like, so I did a recording, and my confidencechanged.
I'm usually this is me set like, this chairslouches, so it's like but my posture changed.
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I learned how to walk on my toes.
Like, I walked on my toes for all my entirelife.
I do not walk on my toes anymore.
Oh, wow.
So there's
all these things that, like and then what I Itold my mom when she woke up the next morning,
she told me that, she felt like she had herslime back.
Wow.
And that's off of a recording.
And then when two days later when I met withhim, we actually, you know, the traumas, I
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don't I can talk about them, and I don't getupset.
So, I mean and and so here's the other thing isis, like, God puts these people in our place,
like, a cross path.
Like, so and I know there's I had somebody whowas like, I can't believe you did hypnosis.
Like, you're a Christian.
And I'm like, dude, like, do you think thatthousands and thousands of years ago that that
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wasn't medicine?
Like, you know, there's certain things thatare, like, a little bit where people just
don't.
If they don't know or they don't understand,then it was it's demonic.
Or and it's like, it's not demonic at all.
Like, I talk about it in the Bible all thetime.
Right.
And and I think the one thing that is is awarning about hypnosis is, one, you're giving
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your mind over to somebody else.
And and God warns us about that.
But you've had a horrific trauma happen to you,and it's not gonna go away on its own.
So if you can find a way that is gonna work foryou, and god's gonna protect you, you're his
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child.
It's not like you're just saying, oh, I don'tcare what God says.
I'm just gonna go do this because it'ssomething I want to do.
You're finding a way to heal.
So you have to make it right in your heart withGod no matter what anybody else says because
everybody's gonna have an opinion.
But that's between you and God.
And you can say, you know, thank you.
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I appreciate your concern.
I really do.
But this is what the way God wanted me to heal.
Right.
And so I just was letting you know, like,that's kinda this has been the journey, and I'm
a journey person.
Like, so I I realize I'm on a marathon, andI'm, like, on mile two.
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Like, I'm not I'm not overexerting myself.
Way to put it.
Yeah.
I mean so I'm like, I know.
And then I met you this weekend, right, on the,is that when we met?
Yeah.
On on Manny's thing, I think it was.
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Oh, no.
No.
You're right.
Manny's thing.
So I went to another so I went to another bigevent this weekend.
Okay.
And I met with this coach.
And so she told me what she felt like was myfinal product or, you know, like, my finished
product.
Not final.
My finished product.
Yeah.
And she, compared me to somebody who, you know,was a New York Times bestseller a couple of
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times and, like Awesome.
A podcaster.
Was like, you have a powerful, powerful story.
She's like, you just you still are cluelessright now of what the type of impact you're
gonna have.
She's like, I can foresee it.
Like, I can see it.
She goes
Wow.
She called me charismatic, and I'm like thefirst thing I was like, I'm not really
charismatic.
Like and then I was talking to some people, andthey're like, Duane, you're very charismatic.
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Like, you're very welcoming.
And I was like, okay.
There you go.
There's your affirmations.
Your confirmation.
So it's the confirm yes.
It's the confirmations of it.
And and like I told you, I'm I'm just gettingokay with it.
Like, it's funny I'm wearing this, like,Superman shirt.
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Right?
But that's really how I felt.
It was like, I'm Clark Kent.
I ripped the shirt open, fly around, save thecity, come back.
I'm Clark Kent.
And I would always wanna be Clark Kent.
Right.
And now I realize, hey.
I can be I'm still Superman if I'm Clark Kent.
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Yeah.
You're just not wearing a cape.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's once once that switch turned, it waslike, I'm not changing.
I'm not changing.
And that was the whole thing.
It was like, wow.
That was the epiphany.
That God equips those he calls.
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He doesn't call equipped.
They might be equipped in some things, but whenhe calls somebody, he's gonna make sure you've
got everything you need even if it'sconfidence.
Right.
So that was the other thing too is, like, Iknew that.
But I also knew I had these gifts, and I, like,I just I didn't wanna be a speaker.
That's what I was gonna tell you.
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It's, like, I did not want it.
I've spoken to I spoke in front of 5,000 peopleat nineteen.
And, like, people are, like, always, like,you'd be such a great speaker.
Now I didn't, and when I say I don't I didn'twanna be, I was doing like, I went to a Bible
college.
I went to, like, I went on 50 interviews to bea youth minister.
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Okay?
Wow.
And I was declined every single time.
So I was like, okay.
I don't need to be doing this now.
And so I just my calling was to be obedient.
Mhmm.
So I was just like, okay.
Like, and I don't wanna be I you know, like, II never felt led to be a pastor.
That's the other thing.
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I never felt led to be, like, a leadership overa church.
See, I live in the Bible Belt.
Like, I was a little smack dab in the inKentucky, and I was smack dab in the middle of
the bottle Bible Belt.
Yeah.
There's more churches here than anywhere else.
There's I mean, that's, like, the business.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
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And it's like, okay.
Y'all don't want me, but yet, you know, I havethese.
And, honestly, that's that's been one of theextreme extreme parts of the story of is like,
okay.
Y'all don't really want me, but, like,everybody else are nationally wants me here
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globally.
Like, so I don't So maybe
that's where your church is.
Right.
And so that's what I was gonna say.
Was like Right.
And so that's the thing is is, like, I'm juststarting to come comfortable with it all again
coming back.
And it it truly is a full circle moment.
Like, I was doing this at 19.
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Like, friend of mine, he just got accepted intothe John Maxwell group.
Oh, nice.
And and he was like, oh, this is, a reallygreat big deal.
I was like I was like, dude, I could've metJohn Maxwell at 19.
And he could've hung out with him, had lunch.
He's like, why didn't you?
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I was like, it just didn't materialize.
But I was just telling him, like, I've alwayshad a huge respect.
But I'm just letting you know, like, I could'vehad that back then.
And, you know, it just wasn't Yeah.
It wasn't the time.
Right.
The timing.
But it was just like he was making such a bigdeal to this guy, and I was like, yeah, man.
I could have done this.
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Like, he he he couldn't believe it.
You know?
He was like he couldn't believe it.
I was like, yeah.
I was like, dude, I, like I I know a lot ofpeople that are high high in the church.
And then so the other thing is is, Doctor.
Tony Evans.
Mhmm.
So I went and saw him preach in Dallas when Iwas And he preached the same sermon that I
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preached two weeks prior.
The same exact one.
Wow.
Because it it was about it's funny saying thisnow because it's about rebounding and being
resilient and catching the ball, picking it up,shooting, miss, pick it up until you put it in
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a basket.
And I was just like, I and somewhere in myhouse
Dude, did you steal my speech?
I mean, it's pretty much same versuseverything.
Here's the other crazy thing about it.
Somewhere in this house, I have that program,and I had him sign it.
Oh, nice.
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Yes.
And I was like I was like, sir, I was like Iwas like, I preached a sermon two weeks ago.
And he said he said, I will pray for you.
And he is like, gonna pray for your impact.
Awesome.
We're talking about this full circle moment,and maybe I had to go the very, very long route
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to get here.
But, like
Yeah.
Because you never know what God needs toprepare you for.
And maybe because you didn't do that, this hasbeen your preparation time.
And now you're ready.
Now he says, okay.
I can open the door for you.
So that's pretty awesome.
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Yeah.
And so that's kinda where I'm at.
It's like I'm just trying I mean, I hate toworry trying.
I'm attempting to get this all figured out.
And I also I'm in the season of allow and nothow.
So, like, when people ask me how I'm doingstuff, I'm like, I don't know.
I mean, you know, it is true.
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I'm being transparent, but I'm not planning itout.
Just let God do it.
Right.
So I'm not planning it out.
I'm just saying, hey.
If this opportunity comes by, then I'm gonnaallow it.
So oh, no.
I've I've I've gotten, like in the last week,two weeks, I've gotten, like, five podcasts
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that want me on.
And I have, like, I think nine out of the thetwo weeks that said have reached out and then,
like, tried to get some type of conversationabout it.
So
Wow.
That's so cool.
So thank you so much.
Let's definitely talk again.
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And
Oh, good.
You have a blessed, blessed day.
Okay?
Alright.
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