How to Stop Thinking and Start Really Living

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Are you thinking your life or truly living it? In today's episode, Isabel and Shantel dive into how we can break free from the mind's constant storytelling to embrace a heart and soul-led life.

In this episode, we explore how the mind gets caught up in the stories we tell ourselves, and why taking a pause to step into awareness can change everything. We share our favorite practical tips and tricks for quieting the mind so you can connect to your Soul, and what it really means to live from the heart.

Along the way, we discuss:

• The difference between thinking your life and truly living it
• The impact of the mind’s constant storytelling
• Mind vs. intuition vs. awareness
• Subconscious programming and its influence on adulthood
• Why we often operate from fear versus possibility
• The importance of creating space between thoughts and reactions
• Practical techniques for anchoring in the present moment 
• Letting intuition guide daily decisions and testing intuitive nudges
• The Target theory of aligned living
• The "magic day challenge" 
• And more!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's time to remember your divine purpose and
limitless potential.
Welcome to Wisdom Rising, theofficial podcast of Moon Rising
Shamanic Institute.
Join shamanic Reikipractitioners Christine Rene,
isabel Wells and Chantel Ochoaas we guide you on a journey of
radical self-discovery andspiritual guidance.

(00:26):
Each week, we'll dance throughthe realms of shamanism,
mysticism, energy, healing andpersonal development to
illuminate your path to truehealing and self-sourced wisdom
Through weekly inspiredconversations and interviews
with leading spiritual andshamanic practitioners.
We are here to help youacknowledge, reconcile and

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balance your energy so that youcan awaken to the whispers of
wisdom rising from within.
Hello, hello and welcome backto another amazing episode here
on the Wisdom Rising podcast.
I'm your host for today, isabelWells, and I am joined once

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again with Chantel Ochoa forthis episode on how we can stop
thinking our lives and startreally living them.
This is a question that came upat the end of our last podcast
episode, when we started talkingabout how we identify, how we
use our mind, our awareness, oursoul to come into balance and

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flow with life, so that we canget out of our heads and into
our hearts and really startliving life to its fullest and
not be held back in the thoughtcycles of the mind, and so that
is exactly what we cover intoday's episode.
We're sharing all of our ownfavorite tips and tricks to get
out of our head and into ourheart to start really living

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life.
We also talk about a littlemagic experiment to see how much
you can apply these practicesto your own life and have a day
or a week that is truly heartand soul led, so that you can
experience the magic of life.
So if you are interested inlearning how to drop the monkey
mind and get more in touch withyour soul, this is the episode

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for you.
In addition, if you're lookingto take this even a step further
, please know that my soul speakmasterclass is still open for
enrollment.
We are officially one week in,but this class is set up so that
you can watch the recordingsand receive just as much benefit
as being live with us in class.
So if you are looking for aclass to teach you how to get

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out of your mind and into yoursoul and actually give your
intuition a voice that is asclear as your mind, if you're
looking to learn how to breakthe cycles of limiting beliefs
and stuck emotions and reallyprocess and release those so
that you can truly live life tothe fullest, not only from a
heart-led space, but from asoul-led space, where you know

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exactly what your intuition issaying and guiding you to and
you know how to trust it.
You know how to decipher itfrom your mind and know what
it's saying and know how tofollow it, then this soul speak
masterclass is for you.
We meet for four weeks and wecover everything from learning
about our awareness and thepsychology of our mind and

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cognitive dissonance tounderstanding the soul where it
comes from, what it is, how ourintuition is connected to the
universe, how to get reallyclear answers from your
intuition, how to processemotions that come up along the
way and really start using yoursoul, your intuition, as the GPS
of your life.
So if you are interested injoining me, feel free to enroll

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now.
Like I said, we're already oneweek in, but live classes meet
on Wednesdays at 8 pm Easterntime or you can watch the
recordings on your own and gothrough the class self-paced so
the link for that will be in theshow notes and know that these
rules also apply to Chantel'sSoul Contracts Masterclass.
So if you're looking to learnmore about soul contracts and

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how you can completely reworkyour worldview, to understand
your soul's optimisticintentions for this lifetime.
To help find ease and flow inyour life, you can enroll in
Chantel's Soul ContractsMasterclass and catch up on
those recordings.
In addition, please note thatour gateway to spirit book club
meets once again this Wednesdayto discuss braiding sweetgrass.

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And, with that said, we're soexcited that you're here, that

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you're listening.
We'd love to hear your toptakeaways from this episode over
in our Moon Rising ShamanicMystics Facebook group.
And, with that said, let's goto the show.
Welcome.
Welcome back to another amazingconversation.
I'm joined here today withChantel and we're diving into
how to stop thinking your lifeand start living your life, and

(05:34):
this is something that came outof our community conversation
last week.
This is a topic that we flowedinto and we're bringing it back
for round two, so if you haven'tlistened to our previous
conversation, I encourage you todo so, because it might give
you some context for what we'regoing to be talking about today.
But this topic is really nearand dear to both of our hearts
because it's something that westrive to do every day is get

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out of our minds and into ourhearts and really live life from
a soul-led place.
So hopefully, in today'sconversation, you'll get some
tips, tricks and perspectivethat will help you to do the
same.
So, chantel, do you want tokick us off this morning?

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Okay, so while you're talking, I was thinking about
what it really means, and we aremagnets to our experiences.
So everything that we think,feel resonate at is what we
attract right.
And so I know for some peoplethat's a hard concept because
there are a lot of things thatwe go through that we don't want

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to experience.
So why would we be attractingthat?
But it is knowing where ourmind can take us and where our,
our vibration can take us, andwhen we have that self awareness
, it really can help us tothrive.
And I feel that, especially formy experiences in the past but

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working with a lot of clientsand students is a lot of people
are surviving and learning howto thrive in their life based
off of their mind and theirconcepts and their belief
systems and their conditioningsand everything.
And so, coming from the mindconcept, yes, we are attracting
everything that we are thinking,everything that we are

(07:12):
believing in, because our mindis going to prove us right.
Either way and we were kind oftalking about that last week
it's like whatever you think,feel and believe, your mind's
going to say, yep, that's it,the universe is going to give
that to you, but when we candrop into our hearts, then it's
like we're now living a heartled life.
We're thriving in our life.
We're seeking the things thatwe desire.
We're seeking like.

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Instead of being in our likeoccupation, we're now in our
desires and our vocation, andthat is so powerful because
that's a completely differentfrequency.
When you're, you're operatingfrom your heart versus your mind
and your thoughts, and so justhaving that self-awareness of
where are my thoughts leading meversus where I want to go, and

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if it's not in alignment withwhat you want, then just stop
and take a moment to breathe,connect back with your heart,
connect back with your breathand realize what you're thinking
of and start doing some mindchanging, really start catching
those thoughts and startretraining your brain to think
in a different way to help youattract what it is that you want
and desire.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Absolutely, and I think that's something that we
don't talk about often enough iswhat a fantastic storyteller
the mind is, right?
It is so good at weaving thesestories and making you believe
that every thought you have,every feeling you have, is
rooted in reality.
That if you're anxious aboutsomething, it's because
something bad is going to happen.

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That if you feel like you haveto be on top of your to-do list,
it's because if you dropsomething, then the world is
going to end or you're going tolose your job or somebody's
going to be mad at you.
Right?
Our minds are such fantasticstorytellers.
And this is where I think theprimary difference between
thinking your life and reallyliving your life comes in.
Because when we're in our mind,our mind is that subconscious

(08:58):
ruled space, right?
So 95% of our thoughts, ouractions, our choices are
subconscious.
They're rooted in thatframework that we created for
our life, from the ages of zeroto eight years old.
And when you think about itthat way, and we sit here and we
say you know, do I really wantto be living my life based on a
program that was installed whenI was a child?

(09:18):
Probably not right, thatinformation, a lot of it, is
outdated because it was designedto keep you safe when you were
young and you had to rely onother people.
But now, as an adult, when youare self-sustaining, your
subconscious can be reallylimiting because it's still
playing by those old rules andthose old scripts.
But because of the way our mindworks, it relies on those

(09:41):
scripts.
It can't make decisions outsideof those.
It's designed to keep us safe.
It's designed to look at.
Here are the rules and the waythat I believe the mind or the
world works, and I'm going tohelp you make choices that keep
you safe within that, that keepyou in your comfort zone, that
keep you making sure you'rechecking off your to-do list,
making sure you're playing bythe rules, making sure that

(10:03):
nobody else is upset with you,because that way you can be safe
.
That's how the mind works andit does a fantastic job at it.
But what that means is that ifwe're living life from our minds
, if that's our primary sourceof information and
decision-making, we'reconstantly going to be making
decisions from a place of fear,because the mind's job is to

(10:24):
look for danger, to look forthings that are unsafe, to look
for things that are outside ofthe norm and say, hey, maybe
that's not the best thingbecause it doesn't fit in this
framework.
And so anytime we make adecision solely from the mind,
right, obviously our mind has tobe involved in decision making,
and that's part of being alive.
We have this amazing,incredible tool, and that's part

(10:45):
of being alive.
We have this amazing,incredible tool, but we've given
so much power to the mind thatwe can't see beyond it.
We can't realize that when it'srunning a script or telling a
story, that it's just that, astory.
It's not 100% real.
Those thoughts, those emotions,they are valid.
They are absolutely valid foryour experience.
What you're thinking, whatyou're feeling, it's very real,
but it's not true.

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And what I'm trying to say bythat is we often don't take a
moment to stop, like Chantal wassaying, and find that gap
between the thought that we had.
That's causing the anxietythat's making us feel like we
need to check off the to-do list, that's making us feel like we
have to play into the script.
The mind is running.
We don't realize that we have achoice to stop and realize that

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it's just a thought.
Just because the thought isthere doesn't mean that the
external reality is reflectingthat.
The more you think it, the moreyou play into that energy, the
more you hold that frequency,the external reality can start
to shape itself to look likethat thought.
So what I mean by that is thefirst time you have an anxious

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thought.
It's not because somethingterrible most of the time is
happening in the world aroundyou.
It's because that's how yourbrain is wired.
It's just trying to keep yousafe.
It's sending up a little flagof saying, hey, have you thought
about this?
But because we've been trainedto give so much power to the
mind, that little flag goes upand immediately all of our
hackles are raised.
Right, we're just ready for afight.

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We're looking for when's thenext shoe going to drop, when's
the bad thing going to happen,when is this anxiety going to
come true?
Because we've been trained tothink that the mind knows
everything, that if the thoughtis there, that if we plan it
enough, that if we controlthings just enough, then we'll
be okay, we'll be safe.
And so when the mind raises aflag, we think we have to go all

(12:30):
in and we have to feel theemotion.
We have to think about theproblem and we have to problem
solve and we have to find thesolution.
We have to take action, all ofthese things, when really the
first step to stop thinking ourlife and start living our life
is recognizing that thosethoughts are just because the
mind is rooted in fear.
It's just trying to keep yousafe.
The idea of keeping you safeinherently means that there's

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something dangerous that youhave to be made safe from.
So your mind is a fighter.
It's constantly pushing back totry and keep you safe, to try
and push away the danger.
But oftentimes that dangerisn't real because, again, going
back to the very beginning,we're just running scripts from
when we were kids and so what wereally need to do instead of
going all in.

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And when you have that anxiousthought thinking, oh my gosh,
what if that happens?
And I need to problem solve,and I need to control it, and
did I get that thing off of myto-do list?
And and, and, and, and youstart to feel that frenzy of
activity in your mind.
We don't realize that we cantake a moment to pause, take a
deep breath and say that's justa thought.
That's one part of my beingheard from.

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That is my mind trying to keepme safe.
But I can recognize that thereis more to me than my mind.
There is more to the world, tomy reality, than my mind.
So can I take a deep breath andmake that little bit of space
so that I can go within andconnect to whatever you want to
call it here, your heart space,your soul, your intuition, your

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connection to the divine,whatever that is for you?
But can I make that space sothat I can drop in a little
deeper and say what does thisother facet of my being think
about this?
How is the rest of me feeling?
Can I recognize that my mind isnot the be-all, end-all?
I've been trained to think thatit is.
I've been trained to feel likethe world begins and ends within

(14:19):
the limits of my mind and whatI can think about the world.
But really your mind is just onefacet of who you are, and I
think that's why thisconversation is so important,
because your mind can't liveyour life.
Your mind can only think it.
That's all your mind can do.
It's never going to be able toexperience, it's never going to
be able to have the experienceof hugging your child or

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drinking a cup of tea, or goingoutside for a walk or whatever
those really joyful experiencesare for you.
That isn't done in the mind.
Your neurons might be receivingthat information and putting it
out to your body, but theactual experience of it is done
in your heart and in your soul.
And so that first step toasking, well, how do I stop

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thinking my life and startliving my life?
Is we have to realize thatthere's more to who we are than
just our mind, that one centerof thought and anxiety and
whatever it is for you.
There's more to us than that,and can we drop down a little
bit deeper to get to that placethat actually then can
experience?
Because if we're trying toforce our mind to experience

(15:25):
life, it's not going to work.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Absolutely.
I feel that we are, as you know, when you're shifting from your
thoughts to your heart, based,you know, living and everything
it really is being accountableto our own actions too.
And we are sometimes our worstenemy.
And because we do let our mindrun with us, we do let the

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storytelling happen, we do letthe expansion of anxiety and
stress and overwhelm take overus, and so then the mind does
run with that and it does wantto create this big storyline
because, like you're talkingabout, it's trying to keep us
safe, but in that it strips usaway from what living really
looks like.

(16:13):
And so, if it is about anxiety,if it is about being stressed
out and all of that, it's reallytalking to yourself and how am
I creating this?
Where can I make space in mylife to feel that I am, that I'm
loving myself, that I'm takingcare of myself, I'm nurturing
myself, I'm making sure that?
You know, my, my to-do listisn't overwhelming.

(16:35):
And so, especially with rightnow, like life is just so fast.
I mean, we're already goinginto April and it literally was
just December, you know, we'realready going into April and it
literally was just December, youknow.
And so when you see, like timeis moving so quickly and they
were trying to like, do thischeckoff list, like you're
talking about.
The mind is going to say, oh mygosh, I'm so stressed out, I'm

(16:56):
so overwhelmed.
And then that's when we startgetting into the fight or flight
, like we talk about this.
When we get into, you know,illnesses with high blood
pressure and all this stuff,because the body cannot absorb
all of the stress hormones thatwe are releasing, because the
mind isn't overwhelmed.
And so when you go back intothe heart, that's when the
breath can calm yourself down,that's when you naturally are

(17:17):
guided to go do other things,like being in nature, taking
yoga classes, taking somemovement classes, taking some
breath work classes, going andhaving Reiki sessions done.
You know, all of theseself-care things can start
coming into your alignment andinto your life because you're
welcoming it in from a differentfrequency of thinking and
thought and are more like thefeeling part.

(17:40):
But then the mind gets on boardbecause once you make the
decision to say, hey, I'm goingto go and do this and you're
disciplined in it and you'reaccountable to yourself and
you're like, you know, this iswhat is important to me and
unfortunately, when we're in our20s and our 30s and our teenage
years, we're in, a lot of times, survival mode.
We're in growing mode.
We're building our career, ourfamily, raising our children.

(18:02):
And it's not until we get intoour 40s, early 50s where people
start really looking at theirlife and going oh my gosh, I
have never taken care of myself.
I put everyone first.
There's this big selfreevaluation and so if you're
younger than that right now,this is really an invitation to
say take care of you today,because you know you don't need

(18:22):
to waste 20, 30 years to say, oh, I could have done that way
back when.
Right, and I love that.
There's a lot of people outthere that are taking life
differently, with traveling thecountry and their, their
trailers or, you know, they'retraveling the world with their
children because they're notgetting stuck in that nine to
five and they're not feelingpushed by the system and the
norms they're making, makinglife for themselves.

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And I think it's such a goodmovement and to witness it, if
not doing it, because it givesus the freedom to be able to say
I can do that on some scale.
Right, go on vacation, gocamping, whatever it is.
On some scale we can all take abreak from life, but it's
giving yourself the permissionthat you can and then go and do

(19:06):
it.
And so I was watching this ladyand it's interesting because my
husband says this to me all thetime.
But if you're watching TV,you're out in nature.
That, right there is your mind.
You can now connect to what youare seeing and manifest that
into your life, right.
So it's like I desire that, Iwant that, and when you do that,

(19:26):
you're really pulling that into have that experience, those
opportunities will start openingyourself up to it.
But when you're manifesting,when you're growing that within
your own psyche, your energyfield and all of that, it's
because you really are tuning into that channel of I want to
travel, I want that experience.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Whatever the experience is for you, you know,
and so it's just aligningeverything up with it so that
the opportunities start tounfold for you and you know, I
think, in a way, that's one ofthe things that is a really
great, almost litmus test, forare you thinking your life or
are you living?
Your life is where's themotivation?

(20:07):
You know, like you're talkingabout with those people who are
going outside of the norm andnot working nine to fives, or
they are traveling more, or allof those things that, for a lot
of us, society has said well,you have to.
You know, you have to getmarried, you have to have kids,
you have to have a career, youhave to do it the right way, as
if there's a right way to dolife right, and I love to tell

(20:28):
our students this all the timeEvery rule that we ever live by
right that you have to go touniversity when you're 18, that
you need to have kids by thetime you're 28, like whatever
these rules are that we hearthey were every single one of
them, made up.
Every rule, every societalstructure that we have was made

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up, 99% of the time, bysomebody's mind, which, again,
your mind is only ever trying tokeep you safe, which means that
99% of the structures that welive by were created out of fear
.
No wonder our world feelschaotic and fast and like it's
out of control, because we'reall trying to hold so tightly to

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something that we think isgoing to keep us safe, when in
reality the thing that we'reholding so tightly to didn't
even exist in the first place.
It's not real.
It's an illusion that we haveall bought into and said, maybe
if I hold tightly enough to this, it'll keep me safe.
But what happens is, like you'resaying, we spend our teens and
our twenties and our thirtiesreally buying into it, whether

(21:33):
we're consciously doing it ornot.
Right, we are steeped in all ofthese structures and these
to-dos and these shoulds and bythe time we get to 40, 50, 60,
you look back and what a lot ofpeople see happen is they look
back and they go why did I do itthat way?
This isn't what I wanted.
I don't know who I am, I'm notenjoying my life, there's no

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spark here, there's no soul here.
And then you feel like you haveto work from the ground up
because suddenly you realizethat this structure that we've
all been playing into of theshoulds and how you're supposed
to live your life and all ofthese things, if you just do it
right, then you'll be happy atthe end.
And you get to the end and yourealize I'm not happy.
You know, and I think this issomething that I've really been

(22:18):
pondering lately as well in myown life my husband's in between
jobs right now and it'sconversation that we've been
having a lot lately of what doesit mean to actually live your
life?
What's going to make you happyin the moment?
And I feel like this is a greattest to see are you living from
your mind or are you livingfrom your soul?
What's your primary motivation?

(22:39):
Is it a should?
Do you feel like you should beworking this job, that you
should be having kids, that youshould be going you know, moving
away from your parents, likewhatever the should is for you?
Is it that you feel like you'reat a should juncture in your
life?
Well, I'm not there, but Ishould be, so I need to keep
pushing myself so that I can dobetter, be more, etc.

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Or are you purely just living by?
This is what feels right for me, this is what I feel called to
do, and that might end uplooking like a nine to five.
That might end up looking likegetting married and having a
white picket fence house right,but the motivation is what's
important, that intention thereof are you still tuned into all

(23:22):
of those structures and the ideathat there's a right way to do
life and a wrong way to do life,and if you just try hard enough
, then you'll be happy whenyou're done, which is very much
a mind thing.
Right, the mind will try foryears and years and years for
the idea that one day you'll getto be happy.
That's how the mind works.
It's okay if you don't get tobe happy right now, as long as

(23:44):
you're working to be happy inthe future.
But your soul, your intuition,your heart knows that happiness
isn't out there, it's not next,it's not when.
It's not.
If I do this, then I'll behappy.
It's right now.
Your life is happening rightnow and when we can drop into
our soul and our heart space.

(24:04):
That's what's pushing us, iswhat makes me feel the most
alive right now and I thinkthat's a great question to ask
yourself is truly, when youthink about it, do you feel
alive right now, not just thatyou're living, not just that
you're kind of going throughyour day to day, but do you
truly feel alive?
And if the answer is no, whynot?

(24:27):
What's standing in your way,what's making you feel like you
can't go?
Do the thing that would makeyou feel alive, because we all
have that calling right.
Everybody has even just alittle teeny, tiny spark of man.
It would be so cool if, or Iwould love to do this, and we
oftentimes brush it to the sidebecause it doesn't fit into that

(24:50):
structure, that illusion thatwe've all been told is the right
way to do things, and so webrush aside those dreams.
I posted something in ourFacebook group the other day of
a quote that I got from myintuition that plans are dreams
that didn't reach their fullcapacity, and I feel that way
about our life sometimes.
Right, it's like we have thebest intentions when we set up
this structure of you start atuniversity, you end at

(25:13):
retirement, that plan, we hadthe best intentions with it,
with the step-by-step, and yetwe just fell short.
Because what is right, what isalive, what is aligned, is going
to look completely differentfor each and every single person
, and if we're trying to spendour lives forcing ourselves into
a box or forcing ourselves intothis structure that we've just

(25:35):
been told is the right way to doit, we are going to end up
looking back and going why did Ido it that way?
Why did I spend so many yearstrying to make it happen so that
one day I could be happy?
Because the thing is, if you'renot happy now, you're not going
to be happy later.
That's not how it works.
You can't spend time buildinglife up so that when you get to

(25:57):
the end and you have enough timeor you have enough money or you
have the family or you havewhatever it is your mind says
you need.
What's going to happen is, let'ssay, that you're working a nine
to five so that you have thisidea that when you retire, then
you'll get to travel.
Right, this is a really commonone.
I think that you spend so muchtime checking off your to-do
list, working your nine to fiveso that one day you'll be
retired, you'll have the moneyand then you can travel.

(26:19):
But what happens is you havethe money, you retire and you've
spent so long disconnected fromyour soul that not only do you
feel like you don't have theenergy to go do the thing you
wanted to do, but when you go todo the thing, you don't know
who you are anymore.
You've spent so long withinthat box that when you go to
step out of it you have no ideawhat to do and suddenly life

(26:40):
feels like this crazy,overwhelming thing because
you've spent so long beingdetached from it.
And I think that's a really bigpoint is there's a big
difference between living yourlife and actually fully being
alive in your life.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
And it is time to be alive, it is time to absolutely
be able to go and live, and itdoesn't matter what our story is
.
And that, literally, is themind trying to control the
outcome, and it can't controlthe outcome because all it does
is it makes us stagnant and ittraps us in the same space, the

(27:20):
same ideas, the same concepts,the same life experiences.
And so it is time to make someshifts.
It is time to get out of thatcomfortability and to realize
that there is so much out therefor us to experience, and for
some, yeah, it is.
You know, we have restingphases and seasons in our life

(27:41):
right when maybe we are stagnantright now, maybe we are having
to be that hermit, or we'refocused on our career, we're
focused on something that we'rebuilding and we're growing, and
that's okay.
But it's when we get stuck inthat phase for years and years
and we're not happy and theheart isn't satisfied and we're
not content and we're alwayschasing that carrot.

(28:03):
Because that's really whatyou're talking about is when
you're looking for what is thefuture going to bring forward.
In the reality of time andspace and dimension, there is no
future.
The future has always become inthe now, you know.
And so it's like every timethat we are chasing something
that hasn't existed yet, hasn'thappened yet, we're just pushing

(28:25):
ourself and our time outfurther and further away from us
.
So there's never going to bethis level of contentment like
you're talking about, becausewe're always in desire of
something that's outside of us.
But when you go within andyou're like this is what I want
and this is what I can do toachieve it, but you're doing it
in a way that you areintentional with everything that

(28:46):
you do.
You're intentional with yourrituals.
You're intentional when you're,you know, just making your tea
and your coffee in the morning,or getting ready, or waking up,
or setting your intentions inthe morning.
What do you want your day tolook like?
Right, if we just get up?
Pounce out of bed, you know,start doing all the things.
We're just aimlessly just doingit.
Bounce out of bed, you know,start doing all the things.
We're just aimlessly just doingit, mindless with it.

(29:07):
Then where is the intention?
Where is the flow?
Where is the living in thatright?
Yes, we have our to-do, thingsthat we got to do every single
day, but have fun with it.
Throw on some music, you know,bounce around the kitchen a
little bit, laugh, have fun, youfun, joke with yourself,
whatever it is that can make youfeel happier in your life

(29:31):
Instead of just thinking like,really, when was the last time
that you laughed?
I facilitate a grief group andlike two or three weeks ago, I
had them laugh for just twominutes and they thought I was
crazy.
They're just like what.
I'm like, yeah, we're justgoing to laugh, you're just
going to laugh, I'm going totime you and we ended up
laughing for two and a halfminutes.
But it was really interestingto watch them because as people,

(29:55):
we don't just laugh at nothing,right.
But once you give them a fewseconds, like within 30 to 40
seconds, they're laughing witheach other.
They're laughing at each other.
They're laughing with eachother.
They're laughing at each other.
They're laughing at themselvesbecause they feel, oh my gosh,
this is so silly.
And in the end it was like thebest exercise that we did and
they still talk about that.
They're like I love that.
We just did that and I said yeah, because you lifted your heart,

(30:18):
you lifted out of thatvibration of grief.
You remembered that you wereliving for just a moment long
enough to raise that consciousawareness of self, and that you
weren't focused on your lovedone, you weren't focused on your
pain, you weren't focused onyour grief, and you were able to
see I'm alive and I'm herehaving this human experience,

(30:39):
and what do I want to get out ofit?
And that carried them for acouple of weeks.
So every week I'd give them adifferent activity or something
for them to really learn to goout there and thrive in life
again, because grief can reallysuck us into this dark abyss of
nothingness.
And then five, 10 years lateryou look up and you go, wow,

(31:01):
that really took me out.
And it can, because losing ourloved ones is so devastating,
but there's still purpose in youbeing here.
And so I just really it's likego laugh, make yourself laugh,
laugh at the stupid things.
I like watching videos that, um, I don't know, like when people
fall, like I mean they'reskidding on the like the, the

(31:23):
snow or the ice and all that,but they're not hurt, but it's
just so funny.
And you know, it's just like,yeah, find some silly things to
like, tune into and just laughyourself to sleep, wake up to it
and see if you feel any better.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
That's a little exercise for you guys.
Yeah, that's a great one.
The other one that I reallylove doing is is really seeing.
How present can you get.
So, when you're making your cupof tea, when you're making your
cup of coffee, when you areemptying the dishwasher, when
you're doing one of thosemundane brushing your teeth
right One of those mundane tasksthat we do every day, how into

(31:58):
the present moment can you get?
Because we don't realize howoften we're making our coffee
and thinking of our to-do listfor work, or we're brushing our
teeth and thinking about thefact that our taxes are due in a
few weeks, or we're emptying.
You know we're always somewhereelse, we're never really here,
and that, to me, is one of thebiggest shifts from living your

(32:19):
life, or from thinking your lifeinto living your life is can
you realize that there are somany times where your mind has
taken over and you don't evenrealize it?
So when you're making yourcoffee, can you really fully
just be present with what isright in front of you?
Not in your mind, not in fiveminutes from now, not in next
week, but right in front of you?

(32:40):
What color is your coffee cup?
What texture is the coffee asit brews, what does it smell
like?
Can you use your five physicalsenses as these touchstones to
bring you back into the present?
Because you can't be reallyconnected to a physical sense
and anxious or thinking aboutthe future or the past at the

(33:01):
same time.
It's not possible, because, inorder to really be tuned into
our physical senses, we have tobe present in our bodies to be
able to feel and connect to thesense.
And so can you really take asecond to go?
What's something I can see?
What can I hear, what can Ifeel, what can I taste, what can
I touch?
And can you even take thatawareness and bring it through
your day?

(33:22):
So, as you're sitting at yourdesk, can you find ways to
engage with your five physicalsenses that keep you present?
So, can you light a candle forthe smell, can you have a pretty
picture or a crystal by yourdesk for the sight, can you wear
a pair of comfy socks.
For the sense and the touch,right, can you have a piece of
chocolate that brings you backwith a taste?
Can you bring your fivephysical senses with you through

(33:44):
the day?
Because, again, that's notsomething that your mind can
think Like.
You can't sit here if you'rerubbing your fingers together,
right, if you just rub togetheryour thumb and your forefinger,
you can't think about what thatfeels like, like you can't
mentally walk yourself through.
Well, it kind of feels like no,you have to actually sit and
feel it.
You have to actually feel whatdoes it feel like for your

(34:05):
fingers to be touching eachother?
And in that space your mind goesquiet because it's just focused
on what's happening in thispresent moment.
What's right here and I lovethat one, because what it does
is it does drop us out of ourmind and into our body and shows
us in a really tangible waythat there is more to life than

(34:26):
what's happening in our head,that when we're rubbing those
two fingers together, sure, ourto-do list still exists, sure,
our taxes still are due in acouple weeks, but right now,
right here, in this moment, allthat's happening is your fingers
are touching each other, that'sit.
And you instantly notice howcalm everything gets, how much
space there is, because whereour mind is quick and fast and

(34:50):
scrambled and chaotic andconstantly moving, presence our
heart, our soul, our intuitionis calm, it's spacious, it's
present and it has that depth toit, and so the more we can
connect to that, the more we canrealize there's actually more
to me, more to this than whatwas happening in my head.
And the more you can do that,the more you can realize that

(35:12):
what's going on in your head,all of those thoughts, that
hamster wheel of activity or thegrief or the anxiety or
whatever it is.
It's an illusion.
You can step out of it.
You don't have to be trapped init.
And that's where we can bring inthat question that we started
to ask last week of do youreally fully believe that there

(35:33):
is more to you than your mind?
And what I mean by that is,when you think about you, who
you are, do you identify as yourthoughts?
Do you identify as your mind,as this thing that's constantly
thinking and problem solving?
Do you identify as your soul oryour intuition, that like
deeper heart space, or do youidentify as something in between

(35:56):
?
The awareness of both of them?
And that question opens up somuch because if we are
identified with our mind, if wefeel like when we say I, we mean
the mind, we mean our thoughts,if that's what we mean when we
say I, it's going to be so muchharder to stop thinking our life
, because to stop thinking inthat case would mean that you

(36:19):
have to stop being.
If you're attached to your mindand you're trying to get
yourself to stop thinking,you're basically trying to turn
yourself off, and that's notgoing to work.
What we have to do is realizethat we aren't our mind, we
aren't even fully our soul orour intuition or our heart space
right, we're that observer, weare the awareness of both, and
in that place we get to decidewhich space do I want to live my

(36:44):
life from.
And that's why that pause thatChantel and I were talking about
earlier, where you have athought and you can pause and
then see what does my heartspace think about that, how do I
feel about that before you takeaction, is so important,
because it reminds you thatyou're not your thoughts, you're
not your emotions, you're notyour intuition.

(37:04):
You are this awareness of itall.
And that is an incrediblyempowered place to be, because
from that place, you can thentake in all of the information,
notice all of the things, bepresent with your fingers as
they're rubbing together andthen decide which aspect of me,
which aspect of this humanexperience that I'm having, do I

(37:25):
want to live my life by.
Do I want to live my life withmy mind and letting it make my
decisions and going on thehamster wheel?
That's a totally valid option.
That's okay, you can do that.
Do you want to be living withyour soul or from that heartfelt
space?
Beautiful, you can do that.
But the biggest and mostempowering thing we're ever
going to do to switch fromthinking our life to living our

(37:48):
life is be able to make thatchoice in the moment of what
choice am I going to make?
Which aspect of me do I want tobe living from?
My mind or my soul, or abalance of both?
Because in that choice you'reno longer a slave to the mind.
Your mind isn't just runningaway with you, it's not living
on autopilot anymore.
You are fully in it and sayingI can see both of these.

(38:12):
I can see my mind, I can seethat soul, intuitive space, and
I get to choose where am Iliving from?
And in that choice that's whatreally living is is can you be
conscious enough to realize thatyou're not your mind?
You are the observer of it all,and so you get to choose, you
get to make those choices.
You get to have the free will,the freedom to be able to choose

(38:34):
how you want to live your life,and that's an incredibly
freeing thing to know that youhave that choice.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah, living from what?
What aspect of yourself thatyou want to live from?
I like that because we have our, our mind, we have our heart,
yes, but then there's othercharacteristics that come in
right and the emotions that tryto overpower, and so it's also
seeing that in ourself is whyour emotions trying to overpower
what is operating here, what isrunning the show, and it it

(39:06):
just is so much about comingback to awareness and I think
one of our comments came inabout it is literally about
having that, that awareness orthe clarification of opposed.
Um, there's just recognizing.
So, as we're recognizing wherewe're operating from, how we're
showing up, what is like workingfor us and what's not working

(39:29):
for us, and making the choicesand being conscious in that and
that's what I was saying beforethat's where accountability
comes in.
We can't go blaming everythingand everyone.
Even if it's a hard situationor a toxic relationship, in the
end we have to stand in our ownpower and say, okay, that job
doesn't work anymore or thatrelationship doesn't work
anymore, or I just need a breakfrom you know family situations

(39:52):
for a minute and set someboundaries for myself to be able
to drop into my heart, to beliving in that space and it's
not an easy thing in thebeginning.
And so, as we're talking aboutthis, know that this took us
years to get to this place tosay you know what?
I don't need to operate fromthere anymore.
You know, because, like I havesaid many times, my mind has

(40:12):
always been the one in controland I always like it wasn't that
I didn't love or anything, it'sjust my mind was always in that
survivor mode of we need to goand do so.
I was very much about checkingoff the list, but the funny
thing is is that my intuitionwas always guiding me and where
I meant I was meant to go.
And I remember having aconversation with a really close

(40:33):
friend of mine many years ago,like when my youngest son was
first diagnosed being deaf, andI've told him I am going to
learn sign language, I'm goingto learn to, I'm going to work
with family, I'm going to be anadvocate, all this stuff, right.
And he's like you don't evenknow the language.
And I'm like, no, I don't, butI'm going to learn the language
and I'm going to be able to dothis.

(40:54):
And that was my intuition,coming forward to say, hey, this
is part of your life path.
Now go learn it.
Your son came in.
You contracted into thislifetime with him so that you
can learn this language, so thatyou can go be an advocate, an
ambassador for the deafcommunity, all of these things.
And then it took my mind to geton board to say, yes, now what

(41:15):
do I need to go do to make thathappen?
So then, logically, yes, Ineeded to go to school, I needed
to get the certifications, Ineeded to learn the language,
all of these things.
And this is how pairing ourmind and our intuition together
works so beautifully, becausethe intuitive nudge comes and
then the mind puts it in action.
And then you have to bedisciplined enough to go do it.

(41:38):
And that's where your desirecomes in.
Do you desire it enough to putthat first, to put yourself
first, to say this is what Iwant, this is what I'm here to
do and I'm going to go achieveit?
And a lot of times what happensis we have that nudge and we
either ignore it or we push itaway because the mind goes no,
that is too much work.
Right, I mean to go learn anentire language.

(42:00):
That is a lot of work, but ifyou let the intuition be the
guidance of it and the mind bethe one that does the work, you
really it's way more powerful.
And then you just find allthese things start happening and
flowing and coming into yourlife and when you can look back
and you go, wow, I can't believeI achieved that based off of
one conversation, one commentthat literally was the threat of

(42:24):
life.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
I love that and I love that.
That's a fantastic place tostart too.
I'd love to talk about some ofour favorite tips and tricks for
diving in.
I know we've scattered somethrough, but one of mine is day.
Our truest essence is that soulconnection.
It is the connection to thedivine.

(42:54):
Our mind was a later edition,if you will right.
We kind of got our mind when wecame into this physical world.
We've always been connected toour soul.
We've always been connected tothat energy.
So we have this inherentknowing of what our intuition,
our soul, our heart space isleading us to in every moment.
But a lot of times, becausewe're so stuck in our mind, we

(43:15):
have a hard time connecting toit.
And so one of my favorite waysto play with that and really
lean into that awareness thatyour intuition gives the wisdom,
the guidance your mind is whattakes action that's a beautiful
way of explaining that of howthose tools that we've been
given for this human experiencework together.
One of my favorite ways ofleaning into that is can you let
your intuition make thedecisions that your mind thinks

(43:38):
aren't important?
So what you eat for breakfast,the clothes that you wear, which
direction you go to work.
If there's two main ways thatyou can get to work, which one
do you take today?
Right, the things that yourmind doesn't have a problem
letting go of control over andit can just say okay, you know
what Intuition, heart, soul,I'll let you have this one.

(43:58):
You can take this decision.
Can you just take a minute totake a deep breath, even you
know, rubbing your fingerstogether, get connected with
your physical senses, get intothe present moment and then let
your intuition just ask yourheart's base what do you want to
wear today?
What do you want to eat thismorning?
Which direction should I turnright now?
And whatever comes up first,whatever that instinctual first

(44:21):
reaction is, do that and seewhat happens.
See if it surprises you.
See if you know the shirt thatyou picked.
You would never have put themwith the pants that you picked,
but somehow it works.
Or you eat something forbreakfast and you feel amazing
for the rest of the day, likecan you let your intuition or
your heart space make thedecisions for you?
Or when you go to find yourself, you know, scrolling on your

(44:42):
phone or doing somethingmindless, can you set it down,
take a deep breath, connect backinto the present and ask
yourself what would be morenourishing for me right now,
what would help me feel morealive right now?
And then go do the thing Onceyou have the knowing because you
already know it's a choice ofif you get to listen to it or
not, right.
But once you have that knowing,can you use your mind to take

(45:05):
action so that you can startrewiring yourself from thinking
of your mind as this likehamster wheel of unending
activity that you just want tobe free from, into thinking of
it as it's a tool.
It's what's going to help youtake action.
We don't need to silence it, wedon't need to kill it, we don't
need to get rid of it.
We need to learn how to use itas a tool.
And so can you start trainingyourself in the little things
where it's easy.

(45:25):
Make a small decision, go dowhat's going to make you feel
more alive, get that intuitivenudge from within and then go
take action on it and see howyou feel.
Once you've done it, even keepa journal of it, and even keep a
journal of the times where youget the intuitive nudge and you
don't do the thing how do youfeel?
So let's say that you'rescrolling on your phone and you
ask yourself what would make mefeel more alive right now?

(45:47):
And maybe you hear you knowthat you should go for a walk or
go stand outside and take somedeep breaths.
And one day you do it and younotice that you feel so much
better when you come in, and soyou write that down.
And then the next day you justfeel too tired to get up and go
outside, and so you just keepscrolling on your phone and then
you check in at the end and yourealize I don't feel any better
after doing that.
I, after doing that, I feelmore stuck, I feel just blech.

(46:15):
And the more you do this, themore data it's going to give
your mind to say, hey, maybethis intuition, maybe this
heart-led life actually hassomething to it, maybe there's
something here.
Can I try it on something alittle bit bigger?
A little bit bigger, a littlebit bigger, until suddenly
you're living more from yourheart because your mind has
gotten on board.
Your mind has seen the proofthat, hey, this actually works,
this actually makes a difference.
That's one of my favorite ways.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
What about you, chantal?
You know, recently I've beencause it's getting warmer where
I'm at as we're entering springand stuff is um, I've been
drinking my coffee out back andthen just closing my eyes and
just listening to the wind andthe birds and everything that's
going on around me.
But then when I open my eyesafter a period of time, how
brilliant the world looks.
The colors are so intensebecause I've blocked that one

(47:05):
sense right, so I've heightenedthe sense of hearing and touch
because the wind or the breezeor whatever.
But then when I open my eyes,how green everything is, how
blue the sky is, and it's soamazing.
And I've seen these retreatswhere you blind yourself, you're
blinded for like three days orsomething like that.

(47:25):
And then I was talking withsome friends at work yesterday.
I go, we should do that likewhere we can hold space for each
other to be on this, just evenif it's a day or a few hours of
being blindfolded and goingthrough this sensory deprivation
of not being able to see, andand then coming back into that
reality of sight.
And you know we're talkingabout that.

(47:47):
And then the other one is alsobeing in silence.
For, you know, just giveyourself, even if it's an hour.
Just be in silence for an hour,no phone, no, nothing.
You're just, you're walking.
Go on a walkabout, go walk innature, just sit outside in your
yard, whatever it is, but be insilence for a whole hour and
see what voice shows up for you.
Is it the mind for an hour?

(48:09):
Is your mind just going tothink for an hour, or is your
heart going to come up?
Is your intuition going to riseand say, okay, mind, enough,
enough.
The mind will start to settleand then your intuition comes up
and then suddenly you arereceiving these downloads and it
might be some content that youneed to create or something
that's going to come forward,but it's the you're nudging
going forward from the intuition, from that soul voice, and for

(48:33):
me, that really is, um, likethat's what I've been doing a
lot with lately, and then Istarted taking Tai Chi and
that's been something that youknow movement and learning the
steps and and everything.
So I've been adding a lot moreinto my life lately.
That is what I desire versuswhat I need to do, and I've, you

(48:54):
know, never really been in thisspace that I'm in right now and
it's really nice and it's likeI give my husband a lot of
things right now Cause I'm likeI have the space to do it, even
though I am busting my butt andworking really hard, but I don't
have, um, I don't feel guiltyfor anything.
And for a long time I think Ifelt guilty if I wasn't working,

(49:14):
if I wasn't doing this orwhatever doing what we think is
considered normal, and I don'tfeel like that's really as
normal for me anymore.
You know, I'm like I'm okay ifI want to take a job here or
there or do that.
I mean I do at work, I put inmy hours, but I don't feel the
pressure to do it.
I'm in more alignment now andmore in flow of that, which is a

(49:36):
great place to be.
But it really does start withgiving yourself permission to be
able to receive that, to say Ican cut all of these attachments
and cords from me and I canjust see what is available for
me to walk into, what are theopportunities that are
presenting themselves now andwhen it's funny you're talking
about your clothes.

(49:57):
I have a certain pair of pantsLike I'm.
I don't wear like really flowyclothes.
I love to see flowy clothes onpeople and I'm always like man,
I wish I could pull that off andit's my own thing, whatever.
But anytime I do actually putsomething, I get the most
compliments.
And I'm like that's just sofunny, because my mind wants to
be like, no, you're not going towear that.
And then this other part of megoes why not, it's fun and you

(50:20):
know, and so it's out of the boxfor me.
But hey, that's okay.
And then I'm always gettingthese compliments.
I'm like that's just so funny,and so it is stepping out of our
comfort zone and lettingourself just shine in a
different light sometimes.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah, I love that.
And you know, there's thatreally cliche term that growth
happens at the edge of yourcomfort zone, or something like
that.
And it makes me laugh because Ialso sometimes think to myself
that, like that's also whereyour heart is, because your
comfort zone, your comfort zone,is a myth.
First of all, it's where yourheart is, because your comfort
zone, your comfort zone, is amyth.
First of all it's it's a set ofcircumstances that your brain

(50:56):
has decided are safe, so it's anillusion, just like all the
other structures in life.
But when you step out of that,whether you're actually doing
something you've never donebefore, or you're giving
yourself permission to not dosomething because it's part of
your comfort zone, but justbecause it feels good, that's
where your heart is, that'swhere your intuition is, that's
where the joy is, and what Ilove about it is, the more you
get into that space, the moremagic starts happening outside

(51:17):
of you, because you're nottrying to hold everything
together, you're not trying tocontrol the outcome, and so
magic can happen, like magichappens in the unknown.
I have this analogy that I loveto use of when you go to Target
right or whatever a Targetequivalent is in your area and
you have your shopping list.
You can go in and you can getthe apples, and you can get the
detergent and you can get theyou know the cleaning spray and

(51:39):
you can leave.
And that's the mind version ofshopping, right?
But everybody knows that themagic of Target is that you walk
into Target and you walk outwith the things that you needed,
but also like five other thingsthat you had no idea that you
needed or wanted or even existed.
But now they're there and youlove them.
And that's what living lifefrom your heart is like.
You're still going to get yourto-do list done.
You're still going to makemoney, you're still going to

(52:01):
check off the things that needto happen, but you're also going
to get to wander along the sideaisles and go on the side
quests to find the things thatyou didn't even know you wanted
to begin with, because you'releaving space for that magic to
come in.
And I love that idea of like canwe live life the way that we
shop in Target, of just lettingourselves wander a little bit
and having that confidence thatyou're going to get the things

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that are on your list?
You're going to get those,you're not going to walk out.
Without those.
It's going to be fine.
Can you give yourself thatconfidence with your life of
you're going to do what you needto do, you're going to be able
to check off your to-do list,it's going to be okay.
But can you let yourself have alittle bit of that fun and that
adventure and that freedomalong the way?
Because that's where the magicis, that's where your heart is,

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and you'll find that often thosethings when you're in that
heart space, when you're in thatjust I don't know what I'm
going to find at Target, it'sjust going to be cool.
That's when you find the bestthings and that's when the most
magical things in life happenare.
When you're aligned in yourself, when you're connected to that
magic, magic can come in in yourlife, around you.
And so that is our invitationto you today.

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Chantel said it so beautifullyCan you give yourself permission
to just go live, whatever thatlooks like for you?
We've given you a lot of littletools and techniques to use,
whether that was using yourbreath to create some space
after a thought or movement, orTai Chi, or going for a walk in
nature, sitting with your eyesclosed or in the dark for a

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little bit, or even in silenceand meditating, or maybe even
not meditating, but just beingin silence, letting your brain
kind of subside, connecting withyour physical senses to bring
yourself back into the moment,thinking about can you pull in
more in your life that youdesire or that you want, instead
of the things that you need orthat you should do?
Can you live more from thatdesire-led place and can you let

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your intuition make the smallchoices?
What are you going to wear,what are you going to eat?
And see what happens when youjust let a little bit more magic
, a little bit more life comeinto your life, even if you try
it for a day, give yourself atime limit.
The brain loves time limits.
It loves if you say well, we'rejust going to do it for a day
and then you can have power backafter the day.
Or we're just going to do itfor a day and then you can.
You know, you can have powerback after the day, or we're

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just going to do it for a week.
Give yourself a timeframe of howmagical can you let your life
be for a day, for a week, for 30days, what feels good to you,
but what's your time limit andtry it.
Just try it.
Give yourself permission tofully live for a day, whatever
that looks like for you, and seewhat happens, see what brings
you joy in that space, and letus know how it goes in the

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Facebook group.
And Chantel and I will try thistoo.
I think We'll give ourselves aday of a magic day to just live.
Just do what you desire, whatyour heart is calling you to
Take steps to make space so thatyour brain can kind of calm
down and you can drop in andthen see what happens.
See what happens when you liveyour life like a target trip and

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let us know how it goes in theFacebook group.
But I hope that you have enjoyedthis conversation.
I hope that you've gotten sometips and tricks to how to stop
thinking your life and startreally living it.
And that's our calling, that'sour message today is you can.
It's time you are allowed to golive.
You are allowed to have thatheart-led, joyful,

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soul-fulfilling spark of a life.
You don't have to do it the waythat you should.
You're going to be okay if youlet the magic in, if you let
life in.
You're going to be okay andit's going to be magical and
it's time.
Any last thoughts, chantal.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
It's time.
I love that the mind loveslimits.
That just cracked me up.
I was like it's so true, but itis a great analogy with Target.
Let your spirit bring in theextras, let it bring in the
juiciness of life, and know thatthe mind just likes the
limitations.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I thought that was great Beautiful.
It is.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Time to live, go, live, live.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Be happy, be happy, yeah, yeah, yeah, go live, go,
be happy, go, bring in the magic.
Let us know how it goes.
In our Shamanic MysticsFacebook group, we cannot wait
to hear how your magic day orweek or month goes, and we are
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