Somatic Alchemy & The Priestess Path with Kashi

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It's time to remember your divine purpose and
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Hello, hello and welcome backto another amazing episode here
on the Wisdom Rising podcast.
In today's special bonusepisode of the show, you'll hear

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Christine interview her mostrecent mentor in the realm of
erotic shamanism, kashi.
Kashi is on the show today toilluminate the somatic healing
journey that you can use toclaim your sovereignty.
In today's show, you'll hearChristine and Kashi discuss the
divine, feminine and sacredmasculine forces within each of
us, and this episode will beparticularly inspiring for all

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of our female identifyinglisteners, as we'll be talking
about how to use somatic orfully sensory experiences to
heal the womb, your portal ofpower.
They'll also discuss how theconnection to Mother Gaia can
nourish our yonis and cultivateour passion and purpose.
Along with understanding thepriestess archetype as a

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powerful figure for women.
Along the way, they'll alsotalk about our connection to
earth.
Sensuality and authenticexpression ensure practical ways
to strengthen and releasesocietal conditioning, while
setting healthy boundaries andbeing open to compassion.
This is truly a powerhouseepisode and a fantastic
opportunity to learn more aboutChristine's personal practice

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that she's been engaging in asshe continues to walk her
shamanic path.
So if you're interested inlearning more about the divine
feminine and sacred masculineenergies, healing your personal
power, especially as a woman,and somatic alchemy while
walking the priestess path, thenthis episode is for you.
This is also a fantasticopportunity, like I said, to see

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Christine in her element and inthe depth of her shamanic
practice, which you'll also getto see highlighted in her
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Speaker 2 (07:31):
Welcome to Wisdom Rising.
I'm your host, christine Rene,and I'm super excited about our
guest today because not only isshe one of my mentors, she is an
amazing woman.
Let me, let me read you alittle bit of her bio, because I
can't even I can't even likeshe's got all of this juiciness

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coming in from so many differentdirections.
I have to, I have to read itoff to you.
So Kashi is the founder ofKundalini Rose, a Costa Rica
based platform for tantric artscoaching and a modern approach
to temple culture and sacredsexuality.
Can you tell why I already loveher?
Okay, today she drives upon arange of devotional ceremonial

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practices and healing modalitiesto inspire workshops, in-person
immersions, online trainingsand pilgrimage for women and men
, and I love that.
She is also the co-founder ofTantra Waska and revolutionary
immersion, combining Tantra andAyahuasca as a pathway to
healing, awakening andself-realization, which I
attended back in October and itwas amazing.

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And she just left thatceremonial container, what, like
three or four days ago, like itjust ended this last round.
So that's all like on theforefront.
She's also an internationalfacilitator.
Kashi is a certified Kundaliniyoga teacher, reiki practitioner
and graduate of theInternational School of Temple
Arts and Energy of Breath Schooland she's also a passionate

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student of the mysteries,including the Egyptian mysteries
and those of the Rose lineage.
So this is my newest and mostfave mentor because basically I
remember the first time I was onthe phone with you.
I don't know if you rememberthat call, but I got on a call
with you before the Tantra Waskaand I was like I don't know if

(09:17):
I want to do this.
I'm not really interested inAyahuasca, like I'm more
interested on the Tantra side ofthings, and you are so good at
navigating that call.
So welcome, kashi, for joiningwith me on Wisdom Rising.
It's so good to have you here.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Oh, thank you.
It's so good to be here and Itotally remember that call.
I actually had Wi-Fi issues andhad to run to the other end of
my garden like hook into myneighbor's Wi-Fi to take that
call.
But I was feeling you and I waslike I am going to get on the
phone with this woman and yeah,yeah, I remember it super well
Because you had a lot of kind ofquestions and concerns that

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would have been similar to whatI was asking.
So I felt like I resonated withyou straight away.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, for sure.
And it was like this I justremember like you met me where
he was at and not like and itwasn't like a sales call, and I
love that.
That.
It's like this has to be aresonance of is this experience
meant for you?
And I've always felt that withyou.
So here I am, I'm on the phonewith you, I jump on a plane to
like head down to Costa Rica,like maybe a month or two later

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and I've never been to CostaRica.
I normally don't travel aloneand here I am going into the
jungle after I swore off CostaRica from the first experience
and I'm like, oh, look at howsolid they're creating this
sacred container.
Oh, I'm good.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, no, totally yeah.
And you were bold, you know,you really went there.
You were like I think youprobably drank more medicine
that retreat than anybody else.
I seem to remember.
Yeah, you were like becauseonce you realized like the
container was solid, you werelike this is an opportunity for
me to go deep and I can in space.
And so you did, and it waspowerful and beautiful and all

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the things but, I, resonatedwith you like testing, even on
that phone call.
You know like how, how, how isthis container held?
You know, because obviously youhold containers yourself and so
I have a similar thing.
It's kind of like I notice ifthe container is loose or if it
feels shaky or unsafe and youknow, I think, yeah, when you're

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diving into plant medicine thatyou'd never experienced before
for the first time was like veryreasonable questions.
But then once you were thereyou were just like soaring.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, Well, and I think that's that's it, and I
think it's a good reminder forour listeners.
Like if you are going into newsacred spaces, like this is why
you vet your facilitators.
Like I have a really highstandard for facilitators.
Like if you and Millie had onlydone, let's say, 20 ayahuasca
ceremonies, I'd be like I'd belike hell.
No, this isn't it.

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Like I need more experienceRight and Millie's done like
over a thousand and you'veassisted in hundreds, right like
it's, it's a little less thanthat.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I like she's done over probably between eight and
nine hundred now either, orplaying music, yeah, and so my
my uh number is is definitelylower than hers.
But I dived into ayahuasca inmy 20s.
Um, like pretty, like I'm quitean all or nothing person.
So once I discovered thatmedicine I was really like I can

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do similar to you, like I cando work in this space with this
medicine that otherwise I can'tdo, like I can go so deep and I
trust her so much.
So I really dived in.
I did a lot of ceremonies in my20s and then I had a hiatus of
10 years where I didn't drinkanything.
And then I moved to the jungleand I started to feel her and

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like she.
Honestly, I always felt her.
She never like left me, even inthose 10 years, you know I
could feel her spirit with me.
And then I ended up coming backto her because Millie and I
reconnected and Tantra Weskerwas like born.
So I ended up, after the 10year hiatus, coming back to
Ayahuasca, but in a facilitatorrole, which I never expected,

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you know.
But it was like Millie and Ihave known each other for 20
years.
We both met.
We were, we were both alreadystudying Tantra when we were 20
and we met in a kind of um, yeah, in like a sort of tantric
context and then basically ityou just never know the weave of
life.
You know it's like now we'reboth so much in our dharma.
You know she had her ownjourney with ayahuasca and her
initiation into serving thatmedicine.

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I had my own journey like deepinto the shamanic tantric realms
and the deepest like parts ofmy initiation.
I wasn like deep into theshamanic tantric realms and the
deepest like parts of myinitiation.
I wasn't even drinking themedicine at all.
And then once I'll just sharethis little story because it was
so wild the only reason we saweach other again after 13 years
because we were still very goodfriends but we'd been estranged
was because I got I'd forgottento get a return ticket flying

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into Costa Rica and they sent mestraight back on the plane to
Madrid.
And then I got stuck in Englandfor a while this was during the
pandemic and then Millie and Ireconnected.
So when I was getting sent backon that aeroplane, you know it
was like why is this happening?
This is a disaster.
But then what came out of itwas reconnecting with Millie
after 13 years and thenrealizing that our paths were,

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you know, we we'd been on verysimilar journeys.
And then, you know, we went fora walk in the forest and she
said tantra wasca, because ithad been a vision of her and her
beloved who passed away duringcovid.
And as soon as she said thatword, I felt like it had come
from me and it was just like.
From that moment we started toco-create it and we just
finished the fifth tantantraWesker for women.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I think that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, and we're very excited because next year we're
going to do Tantra Wesker forcouples and we're going to do
Tantra Wesker level two forwomen who've done Tantra Wesker
level one.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Oh, I can't wait.
And I think what really hit methe most out of that was all of
the Tantric work.
I had been interested instudying tantric work for years
and years, like it's been on myradar, but nothing I really dove
into and I love that word thatyou use like erotic shamanism,
because I'm very much, obviously, love the shamanic arts.

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But once I startedunderstanding it from the
shamanic perspective or theenergy work perspective, I was
like, oh, this is the mostpowerful thing ever.
Like I remember being there inceremony and it wasn't under
ayahuasca, but we had what like10 women all having full body
orgasms without any kind ofphysical touch.

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And I'm like this is mindblowing.
Like every woman needs to havethis type of experience to fully
feel into her own body andclaim her power.
Like there's nothing wrong withus, we all have this innate
ability and it just sparks sucha huge movement in my life.
Going, I remember leaving.
I'm like Kashi, you're mymentor.

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Like whatever you do, like I'mgoing to take it.
So you just let me know whatthat is.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
That was beautiful and I just got goosebumps when
you, when you were saying that,because it is such a profound
like reclamation that happens inthat container and in many,
many things that I do, it's likeone of my biggest passions and
a big part of my dharma isleading women through that
remembrance and reclamation of,like, their womanhood.

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You know of the power that weactually hold as women, which
people are just often sodisconnected from.
And so then it takes sometimesthese kind of containers and
processes and practices to get asomatic experience of that
power and of that divinity thatwe are.
You know, otherwise it's justlike words thrown around, you

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know, it's just trends and like,oh, you're such a goddess or
whatever.
And it's like when you havethese kind of like embodied,
somatic experiences where youexperience the divine in every
cell of your being, you know,and you experience that like
voltage of energy moving throughyou and you start to like
unleash your ability to allowlife force, energy, to move you

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and move through you, you walkthrough life in a different way.
After that, you know, you walkthrough life aware of that power
that you hold as a woman andthat power you have to co-create
.
You know, and then you becomethe change.
You realize that none of it isoutside you.
You know so.
Then you become the change.
You realize that none of it isoutside you, you know so.
The women who and I'm sure youremember, like when women are
emerging from Tantra Waska, theyare I use this phrase in the

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last sharing.
I think it's like lit by theirown power.
There's this radiance thatcomes, like oozes out of them
because they have like reallydeeply touched the power that
they hold and then they're likeon fire with this, like passion
for whatever is their thing, youknow, but like to bring that
into the world.

(17:53):
And then it's like we feelevery time like the ripples
moving through the collective,and it's profound and it's so
fulfilling to me because thereis just nothing like it.
It's yeah, and it really for me.
It's yeah and it's it reallyfor me.
It's like reconnecting womenwith their birthright.
You know that they've been kindof robbed off because of the

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way society is set up andbecause of the conditioning and
because of the shame and thefear and the whatever trauma,
and like every woman has herstory and every story is so
powerful.
But it's like when you reclaimthat birthright and you really
like step into.
Yeah, it's like on one levelit's just your womanhood and on
another level it's like youembodying the divine feminine
with your unique way of doingthat, your unique blueprint.

(18:36):
You know, sometimes I feel likewe're polishing diamonds.
You know, like all thepractices that we lead in the
medicine, it's just kind of likecleaning up these diamonds,
because the women Tantra Westcoattracts are like total diamonds
.
You know, everybody's diamondin one sense.
But then it's like they emergejust like shining, like they've
never shone, because they'vetouched that power and that
source of love within them andthey're just unstoppable forces

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in the world.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yes, absolutely, and that transformation is so potent
and you can like you really dofeel it.
Like I I've definitely been toa handful of retreats, like
plenty of retreats and not I'venever left feeling that
empowered from an experiencebefore and I can't just say it
was the ayahuasca or it was theTantra.

(19:21):
It was definitely the way itwas facilitated and all of the
practices that you broughtforward and how they weave
together in such a beautiful,harmonious way, and really what
I walked away with is justwatching you and Millie honoring
each woman's process.
Like I think that's also veryfeminine.
I didn't want to do ayahuascathe way they do it back home,

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the way they do it here inMontana.
I was like never, I was neverinterested.
Like I'm like no, I don't wantto do this in the middle of the
night.
I don't want to do this whereyou know I'm having.
I'm basically given this cupand I'm like you have to drink
whatever I give you, Like Ididn't.
I loved the way it was so yen,everything about how you guys

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embodied the priestess, like Ireally felt like you were.
You were the priestess, youwere honoring all of the women
in that container through thesesacred acts, whatever acts they
were, whether it was with themedicine or not, and to be
honored in that way helps peopleremember, helps these women
remember that the divinity fromwithin already is there.
Right, you're being able tomirror that for them.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, it's true.
And then there's a lot ofsovereignty in the way that we
work.
You know, with the ayahuascaand outside, it's like
everything is an invitation.
You drink as much as you wantto drink, like you're guiding
your experience ultimately andwe're going to, yeah, be those
mirrors for you.
But but that's also what'sbeautiful about working with
only women is that, like, forexample, millie and I both had

(20:52):
this, but I'll speak for myself.
It's like my early experienceswith ayahuasca like they were
very erotic, you know, if theywere very sensual, it wasn't all
like pleasurable, eroticoticeven.
You know, sometimes it was likethe way my body wanted to move
and the way energy was movingthrough me in a process that was
painful, you know, I was likeclearing something or deeply

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emotional expression, because itwas like there were men in the
space and it wasn't reallyacceptable to like fully go
where the medicine waspotentially taking me, and so
that was kind of where, you know, tantra wasca for women was so

(21:37):
exciting, because initially itwas visioned as a thing for
couples, because Millie was inin this experience with her
beloved, where they were, theywere having this very like
tantric relationship with a lotof ayahuasca.
But then it was like, oh, withwomen there's this permission
slip, you know, and this likewelcoming of whatever is moving
through you, so that can be likeheartrending grief or that can

(22:02):
be like ecstatic bliss, and ifyou want you can take off your
clothes, and if you want todance around, you can dance
around, and obviously we haveboundaries and safety is like
the paramount thing.
But there's a lot of freedom toexpress and because there's no
masculine gaze, then women doreally express in a way that is
more uncensored and thereforemore raw and more powerful.

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And this is where the tantra issuch a sort of perfect marriage
with the ayahuasca in so manyways, because also these women
are learning practices andreleasing their voices and
learning how to breathe properlyand doing a lot of like with
their yonis.
So it's like all of their bodygets very activated even prior

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to receiving the medicine, andso then the medicine can work
deeper with them or they canwork deeper with her, and it's
just like it's more embodied.
And so we feel like a littlebit like it's this missing piece
in the feminine empowermentmovement, because there is.
You know, it's a huge topic, butlike there has been so much
wounding on both sides of thegender war, you know, and there

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has been so much perpetuation ofthat war, because it keeps
people from their power in manyways and it keeps the collective
kind of trapped in certaindynamics.
And when you're in thoseceremonies and you're in those
processes and you're able tolike really, really, not only,

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just just, it's a level ofhealing where you can't run from
the medicine, so you can't, youcan't really avoid the
self-responsibility and themirror that she holds up to you,
where, no matter what thetrauma is, no matter what abuse
you've experienced, she helpsyou to reclaim your power and
realize that it's all rightthere for you, like the power

(23:55):
that you thought was taken orlost, and that you're the one
that can reclaim it like momentby moment.
And so you have all these toolsalso to be able to like guide
you through that reclamation,you know.
So it all becomes less abstractand less of a kind of like, you
know, conceptual thing of likehow can we redress the balance

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and how can women be treatedequally, and it just becomes
this inner healing of themasculine and feminine within
you.
And so that's the way I believethat we're going to create like
sustainable change and healingin the world, and that's a big
part of the Tantra that I do aswell.
You know, even with without theayahuasca, it's like when we go
on that journey of union withinand bringing our masculine and

(24:37):
feminine together andharmonizing and healing that
dynamic within us and maturingboth those energies within us,
then we become this healing andthis change that we want to see,
rather than, you know,petitioning or protesting or
blaming each other or thegovernment or whatever it is,

(24:58):
it's like we take the reins,each individually, and we do
that inner work.
And so I really believe, ifenough people are doing this
like this is the renaissance,this is the revolution, you know
, it's revolution throughevolution and it's radical
self-responsibility, but thattakes courage.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
You know it does absolutely yeah.
Well, and I feel like I thinkone of my biggest things I
walked away from from thisexperience was really
understanding that maybe yourmasculine is just immature,
Maybe your feminine is justimmature, and like, how do we
mature those areas withinourselves?
Because I feel like Idefinitely was in my transition

(25:39):
from my marriage where I wasfully in my masculine, like 95%
of my energy was in my masculineand going.
I don't want to do that anymore.
That's why I left my marriageand then I'm just have this
immature masculine who's justwilling to give my that power
away and delegate it to someother man in my life.
So I can try to be in myfeminine, but it's not

(26:02):
harmonized, it's not balancedfrom within.
And by stepping from TantraWaska and then into your power
of portal program, I was like,oh, I was just like, oh, I see
what I'm doing here, Like I seewhat's going on within myself of
going there's not only thisimbalance but this immaturity

(26:25):
that needs to take place so Ican fully step into my power,
fully step into my strength andsay this is what I'm available
for and this is what I'm notavailable for.
And that really comes from themature masculine from within.
And then, once that ishappening, once you have that
full masculine power, thatwarrior energy within you, it's

(26:46):
so much easier to recognize whena male figure in your life is
actually in their divinemasculinity, their sacred
masculinity, so that you're like, oh, we don't actually, there's
not a negotiation here, it'sjust so nice, it's so refreshing
.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Well, it's been really beautiful to witness your
journey from, like witnessingyou all the way through Tantra
Waska and then you being inPortal of Power and your
relationship journey during thattime, and then know you
transitioned into another coursethat I have erotic alchemy and
you also transitionedrelationships literally like

(27:25):
like the timing was reallyaccurate in that way between the
courses and the relationshipsand it just feels like now
you're in this like deeplynourishing dynamic.
That is what you actually wantand the process that you went
through on a personal level.
Yes, there were like externalpeople involved, but it was
really you at the center of yourstorm and and you realizing

(27:48):
that like it was all on you andyou got to decide and then, very
quickly, you manifested like arelationship that really was
what you wanted, as opposed toone that was full of like
questions and and you know, likeyeah, it was just so it was so
dysregulating and so likeconstantly trying to figure out

(28:11):
the game, you know, like it feltlike we're moving pawn pieces
and not actually communicating,and it just felt very,
ultimately felt verymanipulative, right, and then to
be like I'm not, I'm not doingthis anymore, I'm just done.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
And then, in that process of like getting done,
like feeling done, going, thisis actually what I really want.
I want these things, I want thebeloved, I want the person
who's going to show up and sayyou know, I love the work that
you do.
How can I support it?
How can we do this together,you know?
And so then to.
Then, you know, like it feltswiftly, like I went through, I

(28:51):
took a pause.
I did take a pause, like once Iwas out of one relationship, I
was like I need 21 days ofhealing, I really need to clear
all of this energy out, and didthat very intentionally to all
right, I'm ready for this nextblessing of having all that I
desire and having it really beso easy, Like, and the fact that

(29:13):
I don't have to like I don'thave to explain myself in the
same way, like I don't have totry to prove myself, because
he's also a tantric practitioner.
He's also an energy practitioner.
Like these things are alreadyin our language and like we can
see where we want to cocollaborate on offerings.

(29:34):
Like it's just so, it's so,it's so easy.
Like it's so easy.
Like it feels like home, likeit should be.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
But this is where it's such a beautiful example of
that inner work and how youknow, when you do this work and
you commit to these practicesand you, you did, you know you
21 days of healing and you wereusing practices from Tantra
Waska and, like you know, that'swhat I always tell women,
because I'll introduce them tosay, like the yoni egg practice,
and then it's up to them ifthey're actually going to commit

(30:03):
and do it.
Like every woman can do thatpractice once and be like, okay,
that's powerful, you know, butthen it takes that level of
commitment and devotion to thatinner game and that inner
transformation and that you know, self-healing, and then it gets
reflected so powerfully in theworld.
And I think that's why, like youknow, with tantra it's like

(30:26):
there's a lot of relationaltantra and people focusing on
like neo-tantric practices andvery, like you know, interactive
, and then there's a lot ofmovement for, like, releasing
shame and getting back into theanimal body, because there has
been a lot of suppression andthere has been a lot of shaming
and and that's all really validand really valuable.
But for me, like I've just seenthis so many times that if you

(30:51):
don't have a foundation like astrong foundation of inner
intimacy and really knowingyourself, knowing who you are
and knowing your boundaries, andobviously that is always
changing as well.
But if you don't take the timeand you don't have the devotion
and commitment to cultivate thatinner intimacy and cultivate
yourself from within and fillyourself up from within and

(31:13):
through your connection to thedivine, rather than always
grasping or looking for someoneon the outside, like the
horizontal you know, connectionsand interactions to fill you up
and fulfill you, then Tantracan be very troublesome, even
dangerous, you know.
So I think, like my approachwith Tantra is really, really,

(31:33):
really, to empower each one inunderstanding their own energy,
like understanding theirmasculine and feminine, learning
how to love themselves, liketruly you know.
And then from that place, whenyou, when you meet other and
when you meet all of creation,and when you meet colleagues and
friends, and and like thechallenges and blessings of life

(31:57):
, you're coming from this strongfoundation, You're coming from
a place of self-love, You'recoming from a life.
You're coming from this strongfoundation, You're coming from a
place of self-love.
You're coming from a placewhere you're committed to self,
because how can you commit to ajob or a partnership or anything
if you can't even commit toyour own healing or your own
well-being?
So I feel like that's thereally foundational piece and
that's what like Tantra, Waska,Portal of Power, Erotic Alchemy

(32:17):
like all of them are really likefrom this angle piece.
And that's what like Tantra,Waska, Portal of Power, Erotic
Alchemy like all of them arereally like from this angle.
I had a new client asking meyesterday.
She's just like I was worriedbecause I saw something in it
that was like talking about youknow your relationship and I
really need to focus on me.
And I was like, don't worry,that is exactly like how I work.
It's from within, and that wasyour journey as well.

(32:40):
It's like you were doing thatwork inside yourself and then
like what you were attracting,what you were receiving,
everything shifted in a reallyshort amount of time, Absolutely
.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
It went it things unspiraled and really to a
completion point and then reallyopened up and I and I feel like
I think one of the reasons whyI resonate with your energy so
much is because of thatfoundational work.
That is like a prerequisite,and I feel I do the same thing
in our soul rising and shamanicReiki course is like we need to

(33:11):
focus on root, sacral and solarplexus first.
We're not even looking atrelationships yet.
Let's work on finding our ownfoundational source of wisdom
and I think this is why I fellin love with Shakti's.
What am I calling it?
The spiral with the Yoni yoga.
What am I?

(33:31):
What am I?
Why am I?
You mean the Sufi grind?
Yes, the Sufi grind, thank you.
I'm like, why is it not comingto my head?
Because it was like energeticdrilling into the core of the
earth, where you're meetingmother Gaia to like let her feed
you, release all of your shitand let it be composted and then
receive and that's a this twoway energetic flow with the

(33:55):
earth.
And I think so often inspirituality and spiritual work
from from mainstream, the energyis the emphasis is so up on the
upper chakras and like let'smeet the divine and they're
disassociating and they're notactually doing the embodiment
work.
And here we are, like strippingaway all of all of what no

(34:17):
longer serves us, really gettingto the shadow self and going.
I'm worthy of this work andit's not a scary like there's
nothing that to be afraid of,that's within you, to really
able to pull that mirror up.
I think this is why I loveportal of power so much is
because there was such a mirrorwith all of these different
deities, so we were looking atthe shadow side of ISIS or the

(34:38):
shadow side of Inanna orwhatever it was, and it was like
I can see that there is suchthis duality and the divine
feminine and that there I thinkthat's where I get really I
don't know like it just doesn'tfeel like it resonates when I
get into the Buddhist culture ofReiki where it's just like.
Get into the Buddhist cultureof Reiki where it's just like

(35:01):
it's so non-dualistic and I'mlike, but that's not human, like
I want to enter my senses andmy sensory and my sensuality to
understand the divinity, notpull away from it.
Like that just seems ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
And it happens through contrast.
You know, it's like themasculine and feminine, the dark
and the light, the polarity.
You know, even in sexuality andsensuality it's like the
masculine and feminine, the darkand the light, the polarity.
You know, even in sexuality andsensuality it's like the
contrast, is like awakening tothe senses.
You know, if it's all very likemonotone and same same, then
it's like it doesn't stimulateyou in the same way, right?
So it's kind of like the mothercan hold it all.

(35:35):
And I think there's this,there's this relief and this
reconnection that happens whenwe do this work.
And exactly that practice is soimportant when women realize
there is this like energeticumbilical cord between their
yoni and the heart of the planet, and when that activates cause
that never went away, but it'slike when you activate it, it's
like most women need to activatetheir yonis.

(35:55):
Even if they're're sexuallyactive, they haven't activated
the full power of their portals,you know.
And so when that happens, it'slike this, this, it's almost
like falling into the greatmother's arms and realizing that
she can hold us as we are, withall our darkness, all our pain,
all our fears, like everythingis included and it is safe for

(36:18):
us to descend first of all intothe body, because many people
get stuck in like disassociationand and and avoiding their
incarnate like form somehow, andalso into our pain, into our
shadows, into our unconsciousand subconscious, where it's
like there's all sorts going onand so it's just just like this
again, the permission and thisis why I love Tantra, because

(36:40):
it's like there's holiness inall of it, it's all divine, it's
all included.
You know, the beauty of Tantraand it's also a danger is like
you don't have to banish yourdesires, you lean in, you get
curious, you find safe ways toexplore them or express them,
right the same with your pain,and so it's very welcoming, it's

(37:00):
very inclusive.
And that can also be riskybecause you know people can
misinterpret that and you knowpeople can also just get like
then completely trapped in theirdesires, right?
So everything is about thebalance and being able to like
temper.
You know the darkness with thelight and the masculine with the
feminine, and finding this kindof like homeostasis in all the

(37:24):
areas, but with this deepremembrance and understanding
that like none of it is separate, none of us are separate and
none of it is separate.
And when you go into thosedescents you know, like whether
it's an emotional descent ordeep into the body, and the
trauma that you find in the bodyor you know whatever is the

(37:45):
shadow element like you emergestronger and more integrated and
these are the people that aremore easeful to be around.
You know, when you're aroundpeople who are running so hard
from their own darkness, they'requite exhausting because
they're actually exhausted fromrunning.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Those are the people where you're like why do I feel
so tired after hanging out withthis person?
Can love their shadow and meetthemselves in the dark and in
the light and in all the colorsin between.
They're a more grounded, morewholesome energy, just like
naturally, because we are all ofit, and so it comes back to

(38:28):
just integration.
It's like the Jungian concept,you know.
It's just like it's justreturning to wholeness and
integrating all of all of whatwe are integrating all of all of
what we are.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yes, yeah, absolutely .
Will you share with us a littlebit about what it means to you
to do this in a priestessperspective?

Speaker 3 (38:49):
yeah, uh, it's funny because someone also asked me
yesterday about, about thepriestess archetype.
They were like can we talkabout that?
Like what's that about?

Speaker 2 (38:57):
and I love it, like, I feel like I'm definitely
stepping into cloaking myself inthat archetype often and it
just feels really good.
But I, like, I'm also new tothis path and I I feel like, as
women, when we start to exploreour own divine, feminine, which
archetypes are, we aregravitating towards right In

(39:19):
that, in that process, and Ilove the, the showering of
information and portal of power,where we really are looking at
all these different archetypesand energies and those who have
come before us and their owndeities.
Right, and I'm like, and how dowe live it?
How do you embody it, expressit, show it, feel into it?

(39:43):
Right?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Well, the way that I like to introduce women to the
priestess is in this remembrance, or reintroduction, or
recognition that each woman isthe priestess of her sacred
temple, you know that being heryoni in her womb and this portal
of power.
That's why portal of power isnamed portal of power, like this
portal of power, portal ofcreation that she is responsible

(40:05):
for, you know, and that thesacredness of that which is why
I love the word yoni, because itmeans sacred temple, you know,
it's like that for me really hasa frequency, that that feels
aligned, and so it's like that'swhere each woman can begin by
taking that responsibility thatshe is the priestess of her

(40:26):
sacred temple.
That means she decides whocomes in.
She has to guard and protectthat temple and make sure that
the energy that's permeating itis in integrity and coming with
love.
And also, equally, what'scoming out of it, like what is
she birthing, you know?
What is she gestating, what isshe cultivating, not just in
terms of new life or a baby, butlike what are the projects, you

(40:47):
know?
What are the manifestations,what are the dreams that she's
holding, you know, and that thatshe's birthing into the world.
So that's, I feel, like a placewhere, like, every woman can
start to relate.
You know, things like practiceslike burying your menstrual
blood you know, this is anotherbig one where I've had women who
have been like, okay, notnecessarily so resonant with the
priestess archetype, but then,you know, I invite them into

(41:10):
that practice and they go and dothat and that's something like
clicks, because it's such asimple thing and but it's also
so deep and and and sort ofawakens sometimes these like
memories or even this collectivearchetype you know, of like wow
, what that actually is and howthat feels energetically.
You know, and that's why allthese practices, it's like, you

(41:30):
know, you bringing it into yoursomatic experience of yourself,
where you feel like a priestessin that moment it's not just
like an idea anymore, you know.
And so I think, starting withthe, with the yoni and womb, and
then also like understanding,like, yeah, the power of your
blood is a very like importantfoundational piece For me.

(41:50):
The priestess archetype has beenreally really strong in my life
and I had quite a radical pathin many ways.
You know, I went through a lotof tantric and shamanic
initiations that were not kindof like your typical like oh,
I'm going to go and do likelevel one or level two or some
training or that.
I was a much more unusual pathand my version really like what

(42:12):
really was my priestessinitiation that feels most deep
and most that was hardestactually was truly giving up my
life to the divine, Like trulysurrendering my desires,
surrendering my ideas,surrendering like where I wanted

(42:32):
to live, like surrenderingeverything and and and going
with the guidance as it wasgiven to me.
And that was a process thatwasn't like an overnight thing
or like a one ceremony thing.
That was a process.
But I think that with thepriestess archetype, it's like
she is this bridge betweenheaven and earth, she is this
bridge between the divine andthe human and so she's this

(42:53):
archetype where it's like shelistens, you know, and she
attunes to the divine and thenbrings it to earth in whatever
she's manifesting or doing.
So it's like the priestessdoesn't have to like live in an
obvious temple and and alwayswear a crown or be doing like
you know, seemingly priestessthings.
It's like know every woman hasthis archetype running through

(43:15):
her and at different moments.
You know, also in sexualityit's like being the priestess of
your sexual energy, you know.
It's like knowing how sacredthat energy is and therefore,
like the way that you channel it, the way you bestow it, the way
that you share it.
You know that archetype can bevery present in that as well.
And I think, for, yeah, for meit's about that, like it was a

(43:41):
very brutal process because myego hated it, but really so,
yeah, to offer my life back tothe divine, because at a certain
point, you know, as you divedeeper and deeper into the
realms of who you are, it's likehow could I not give my life
back to God or source orwhatever you know, or the mother
, because that's where it camefrom, it's not even mine anyway,

(44:02):
you know.
And in that communion and unionwith the divine, actually your
life becomes much greater thanyour little human mind could
dream, you know, because mydreams when I was younger were
much more sort of selfish and itwas like through that, that
surrendering, and through likewalking the path of the
priestess, it became much moreabout service and through that

(44:24):
it became much more about us asa collective, as a human
collective.
You know, it's like thepriestess is in service, you
know, and back in the daysbefore the patriarchy, it's like
the goddess temples and thepriestesses in those temples.
It's like they were in serviceto the community, to the health
and wealth of the community,like, literally, their sexuality
, their power was in service tothat, you know, and channeled in

(44:48):
ritual in accordance with, like, the land and the people
prospering and keeping thatbalance between the divine, or
the gods and the goddesses, orwhatever it was, and the people.
You know they were a bridge.
So I think every woman canactually relate to that
archetype, you know, each in herown way.

(45:09):
Like, also, some women arereally artists, you know, for me
it's like when I dance, it'slike I'm very in that channel,
and for other people it's whenthey paint, you know.
For other women it might belike when they cook, you know,
but it's like when you arereally in that channel where
you're bridging, bridging thedivine and the human, somehow,
or the spiritual and thephysical.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Yes, yeah, I love that.
You know, I and I'm when I teachmy Reiki masters training
that's what I say all the timeit's like you have one foot in
the earthly realm and one footin the spiritual realm and it's
learning how to live in thatbalance.
And I I mean I've been doingReiki now for over nearly,
nearly, almost 25 years, right,so it's like I've always been on

(45:50):
this very deep spiritual pathand and I do remember having
this, you know, pivotal momentin my own journey of like,
surrendering, giving my powerover, trusting the next steps,
being divine, just letting go ofeverything, like and it was a
huge ego death and coming intothe fullness of my life is of

(46:12):
service.
Bring me the clients If youwant me to have clients.
Bring me the right supportpeople If you want me to bring
this online, like it's alwaysbeen, yes, and how can like?
Bring me the support.
Show me that we're working as ateam and it's always been this
beautiful unfolding.
And when my ego gets in the wayof what I think quote, unquote

(46:33):
think I should be doing, that'swhen things get messed up, right
, it's when the ego comes backin and be like oh well, maybe we
should do it this way or maybelike right.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
And also there's a very important piece that's
worth mentioning because it'slike some people like we were
talking about this earlier likeyou with all your water, it's
like they can channel thingsvery easily, you know, and they
have that ability to kind oflike receive messages or
guidance.
For other people, it's not likethat right.
So also there is a processwithin that surrendering and

(47:04):
saying, okay, show me.
It's like some people might say, well, I don't get shown in
that way, like, how do youreceive the guidance?
And so the really importantpiece in the process and it's
very important in Tantra as wellbefore you bring in the
practices and the erotic energyand the power, basically, that
some of these rituals can bringand evoke, you have to go

(47:26):
through a purification process,and this is what the Yoni yoga
that I teach is about, forexample, it's like for you to
reclaim your sacred temple andyour Yoni womb in her integrity,
in a way where you can pluginto Gaia and you can receive
full nutrients from the earthand you can channel the level of
life force that you're designedto.

(47:46):
There's often a cleanup process.
There's often all sorts ofimprints and traumas and stuck
energy and stuck emotions, andso it's like that is also part
of that spiritual path.
And the path of initiation islike you become responsible for
cleaning your vessel.
You know it's like there isreasons why that people do fasts

(48:07):
and cleanses and like you knowthere are these kind of like
rites of passage and initiation,because the more clear your
channel is, the more you candiscern what is real guidance
and what is your fantasy.
Yeah, you know, and like whatis what is truly a calling and
what is just mental masturbation?
Right, like that takes aclearer channel, clearer channel

(48:29):
, so that takes.
Coming back to thatself-devotion, you know of going
like no, I take time away fromthe group or away from you know
the world and I tend to mytemple.
You know and I do my femininepractices and I tend to myself
because you know each one of us.

(48:49):
We are our greatest asset andinvestment and so you know, when
we take care of ourselves andwe really honor you know it's
like it's kind of a mutual thing.
It's like the goddess in you isgoing to reveal herself the
more you honor her.
It's the same in relationship,you know.
The more you as a woman, themore you evoke the God in him,
you know the more he's going toshow up like that in his divine

(49:10):
masculine, the more you dismisshim and you nag at him and you,
you know, you, you tell him howhe needs to change.
Then the harder it is, in a way, for him to show up.
But the more you really likesee the God in him, the more you
evoke that in him and invokethat in him.
So it's yeah, it's, it's, it's,it's a it's a symbiotic process

(49:33):
also within yourself to like,treat yourself like a goddess
and then you grow into thatgoddess naturally but a lot of
people have to start there, likethere's a piece of that, like I
feel like it's so.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
You know, I have all of these students and I'm like,
take five minutes.
And they're like, oh my God,five minutes.
I'm like, take 20 minutes, takean hour, take two hours, take a
day, you know, and all of thesethings are like really pushing
them outside their comfort zone.
I'm like, but this is where itstarts.
You, if you want to claimradical responsibility for your

(50:07):
energy, you, you have to bewilling and committed to do the
practice Right.
So don't don't come to me aftera month in and be like, oh,
it's not working.
I'm like, well, did you dothings?
Did you do all of the things?
Because, like, if we wantspiritual development, it it
comes with how do we clear ourown channels Right, and that we
do carry a ton of a huge amountof childhood wounds and sexual

(50:29):
wounds and all of the, all ofthis baggage.
And it's when we can bring itto the table and lay it on the
table and be like I'm willing tolook at this and honor it and
learn the lessons and siftthrough it and going.
This is who made me who I amtoday and this is the type of

(50:49):
woman I want to step into withall of my fullest, with all of
my power.
Then, in that energy, wow, youcan do some really amazing work
in the world.
But it's like you got to getdown and dirty and do it.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Exactly, and the process is not avoiding the pain
.
The process is going throughthe pain, alchemizing the pain,
and the pain becomes your power.
Absolutely.
This is the goal.
This is literally alchemy.
You know, you think it's thestuff that's not valuable or
that you wish wasn't there, butactually, when you go into it
and you have that courage andyou can meet it with love and
you can alchemize, it becomesyour power.

(51:23):
Yeah and yeah, in the end it'salways you and you.
You know everything that you'reexperiencing in life.
It's like when you can comeback to that radical
responsibility.
If there's something you don'tlike, you get to change it.
You know, and it's all a mirrorof you, which is intimidating
in a way, but also extremelyempowering.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Well, I think that's it Like.
Once you realize, oh, if I'mworking, if I'm deeply truly
working on myself, everythingelse is going to start shifting,
like the energy of the worldrearranges itself to meet your
energy of where you're at Right.
And I think that's whathappened to my own experience.
I was in this low vibrationalrelationship that really he

(52:04):
didn't want me to be thefullness of who I am.
He quite literally told me totone it down, right.
And I'm like it down Right andI'm like you can fucking choke.
I want to get to that point oflike, if I'm too much, go find
something else, right, because Iam in the process of being more
of me.
I want to be not just thefullness of me, I want to be

(52:31):
absolutely the most expansiveversion of me possible.
So I'm not fucking toning itdown.
And when I'm in that energy,who do I attract?
A man who can also witness mein the fullness of who I am and
and honor it Like.
There is no Tony down.
He actually is like that wasgreat Right, like bring it,
because he's also for a lot ofwomen I'm sure would think he's
a lot right Cause he's in hisfullness, right.

(52:54):
So we got two people who arecoming together and their
fullness of like, not justerotic energy, but in our
spiritual energy and our youknow, our energy of our
co-creative selves.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Right.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
And when we get together it's like, oh damn,
watch out, because here's thepower couple coming in.
Like it's so funny when we'rein group spaces together and
cacao ceremonies, I'm like, yeah, we're gonna.
We're gonna kind of dominatejust a little bit, because
that's our energy and it's not.
People gravitate towards that.

(53:31):
They want, want to know how weare doing it, whether
individually or as a couple, youknow, and it's even though that
it's still new and fresh in away, it has so much powerful
potential and magic to supportothers.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Totally.
And you know, sometimes you needto like swing the pendulum into
what's not working for you,just like sometimes you need to
have your boundary crossed inorder to understand where your
boundary is.
Oh, yeah, for you to say fuck,no, and this is, and then to
manifest what you do want.
And again, from thatperspective, it's like life is
always happening for you, evenwhen it's a shitty thing, like
when I got sent back on theairplane and I was like why?

(54:08):
And then it was like, wow, nowI have this beautiful project
and who knows if it would havecome together and manifested if
that hadn't happened.
So it's like there is alwaysand this is where it's like,
yeah, trust and welcoming whenit's shitty and welcoming when
it's beautiful and welcoming.
All of it allows you to reallylike ride the tides and

(54:31):
integrate, continue to integratemore and more and more of who
you are, because being you is amassive project to tend to all
your archetypes and your, yourmasculine, your feminine, your
inner child, like all the levelsand layers of you.
It's like dive into thatrelationship with complete love
and devotion and everything elsecomes from that, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
I, I love that.
I feel like that's a reallygood place to like say that.
That's a really good Indianstatement right there.
But before we hop off, I wouldlove, Kashi, if you have
upcoming things, if people wantto get a hold of you, if they
want to work with you, what'stheir steps?

Speaker 3 (55:08):
So I have an upcoming portal of power.
So that's a seven week onlinecourse for women, which you've
done.
I have an upcoming portal ofpower, so that's a seven week
online course for women whichyou've done I have.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
So juicy highly recommend.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Yeah, and it's transformational, as you
experienced, and it's tantricand shamanic practices.
There's six modules, so youreceive a lot of prerecorded
content.
I filmed half of it here in myjungle temple and half of it in
my teacher's temple rightopposite the pyramids of Giza in
Egypt.
So it's kind of made in CostaRica and Egypt and we go into a

(55:44):
lot of mythology, we go intoInanna, a lot of the rose
lineage, also the Egyptiangoddesses, so it's a deep dive.
It's very, you know, it'smarrying the sexual and the
soulful in many ways and it'sdefinitely a path to revealing
and discovering more of your ownmedicine and your own blueprint

(56:06):
and walking that path of yourdharma and also working a lot
with your sexuality and yoursexual energy and different
archetypes.
And it's a deep, deep femininework and journey.
And we have calls every week onZoom, so there's integration
calls with the group, which arealso really powerful and
beautiful, and so that's comingup on the 22nd of April.

(56:30):
We start.
That's the first week throughto the 10th of June, the week of
the 10th of June.
So if anybody's interested inthat, they're welcome to reach
out to me.
Good way to do that isInstagram.
I am kundalinirose and I alsohave a website, kundaliniroseco,
so you can also contact methrough the website.
I think those are the mainthings.

(56:52):
I'm leading a pilgrimage toEgypt with Millie Millie
Moonstone, who I do TantraHuesca with, and that is going
to be September the 8th to the18th.
We finalized dates now, sothat's going to be the Sacred
Way pilgrimage, which is alsovery much.
We're going to be exploring thetemples, we're going to be
cruising down the Nile, we'regoing to work a lot with sound
Millie's an incredible musician,yeah and also really working

(57:16):
with this theme of, like thesacred way being your unique way
in the world, because that'show your Dharma and your real
purpose unfolds.
It's an unfolding from withinand it doesn't always make, it's
not always a logical thing.
So we also diving deep intothat process for each one, while
also connecting with thesepower portals all around Egypt

(57:37):
and in the temples.
So that's coming up.
We have more Tantra Huescacoming in October and also next
year we'll have Tantra Huescafor couples and also level two
for women.
So that's very much in thefront of my mind after this
round.
And what else in the front ofmy mind after this round and
what else I also have EroticAlchemy, which is a beautiful
course for women online also.

(57:57):
If you feel like you'redisconnected from your yoni, if
you feel like you've got sexualtrauma, like there's a lot of
healing to do, and also thatyou're in your masculine energy
more than you wanna be and youwanna like connect more to your
feminine energy and get moreinto that that feminine radiance
and also feminine leadershipthen erotic alchemy is also a
really great course that I runquite regularly online and if

(58:19):
anyone wants to come and do aretreat with me here in Costa
Rica in the jungle, I do privateretreats as well.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
And we might have to.
We might have to figure thatout sometime in the future for
our moon rising community.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Yeah, and it's really fun because we co-create it,
you know, and I also work with alight and sound therapy here
called AOI, which is reallypowerful healing technology that
again gets in there on acellular level through working
with light and full spectrumcolor to clean and help release
the past.
And, you know, people come outof here after like one week
completely reborn.

(58:51):
So, yeah, really working withdeep alchemical transformation
in lots of different ways,online and offline.
So, yeah, if you're curious andyou want to know more, please
reach out.
It's such a pleasure to shareyour journey and to like be here
and talk about it.
And, having witnessed you, youknow, christine, and all these
these phases since only October,it feels like it's been much

(59:11):
longer.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I know like there's so much that has happened since
then.
You know like, and it's beenamazing, it's been amazing to be
in this energy with you thiswhole time, and I also recognize
like that relationship that Iwas in in the fall, like I would
not have met you and Milliewithout it.
You know like he was my, myintroduction Right, and so

(59:33):
it's's like maybe that was thewhole point of it because I
needed to find my next mentor inthe end it's like it always,
like, like down the road thingsmake sense, even though at the
time, right for sure, for sure.
So thank you for all of thewitnessing and support and
honoring that you have done.
In my life I have just been soloving all of the immersion and

(59:57):
all of the courses that youoffer and the experiences that
you offer, and I I do hope, likeI'm like knock on wood, that
I'll be joining the Egyptiantrip as well.
Like that, for a pilgrimagesounds super juicy to me.
I cannot wait.
So we'll put all of those links, all of those offerings, in the
show notes.
So if you're like where,where's the link, look in the
show notes, we'll have them allthere for you.

(01:00:17):
And then, yeah, definitelyreach out to Kashi over on
Instagram, because she's quick,quick to respond over there.
And until next time, may youawaken to the whispers of wisdom
rising from within.
We'll see you all next time.
Thanks everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
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