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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm not a cop, I'm a WKRP in Cincina.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
EPO.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Babies.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Welcome to a wkr and P Cast extra. This is
a special inside look at the Turkeys Away episode outline.
Normally on the WKRP cast podcast we do reviews of
full episodes of the original WKRIP in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
In a regular episode, you'll find trivia clips, drop ins,
and more. We are not doing any of those things today.
Please make sure to check out a regular episode of
the podcast. Okay, that's the disclaimer. If you're still here,
it means you want the extra. Let's get into.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
It all right.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
What we have is a full outline of the famous
Turkeys Away episode of WKRP. It's what Bill Diles submitted
to get the creative process rolling. Thanks to contest Nobody
could win. Writer Casey Petrowski for giving us a copy
of the outline. Casey said they handed it out as
an example when he went to a new writer's meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Casey saved the outline along with his notes about the
experience in a file folder. We're so glad he shared
them with us. Casey has been an amazing friend of
the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
The outline is really a narrative description of the episode,
complete with set notes and even some character lines. We're
going to read the outline as it was originally presented.
We'll pause between scenes for some commentary.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
We know from our research that the original idea for
Turkeys Away came from wqxi's station manager and certified wild man,
Jerry Bloom. It was one of the radio stories Hugh
Wilson said he brought with him to Hollywood. Bill Dile
got the nod to write the episode. Bill was a

(01:51):
friend of Hughes from Atlanta, and he had worked at WQXI.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Hugh Wilson was known for rewriting everything. W KRAP was
his baby, and he took that very seriously in the
first season. The writers have joked and interviews that Hugh
rode or rewrote practically every line. Hugh himself said in
an oral history that Bill Dile only had one line
in the Turkeys Away episode. As we'll see from Bill's outline,

(02:18):
that isn't exactly true. Bill didn't write the famous ones,
and there was a lot of punch up, but several
of his lines did make the final cut of the show.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Our outline opens in the lobby Act one scene one
interior reception.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Jennifer is at her desk. She is on the phone.
Carlson enters to hear her finish the conversation. That should
take care of it. No, no, no need to bother
mister Carlson with it. Yes, he's much too busy to
take the time. She hangs up. Carlson wants to know
what that was about. Oh, nothing, really, just the coffee
supply man. I took care of it. Good, Carlson says,

(02:56):
and starts going through his mail. Jennifer has it in
two stacks. The important stuff letters which need replies she
has already opened and organized so she can write the
necessary responses. The unimportant stuff, junk mail, flyers, et cetera.
She gives to Carlson. Is there anything in that stack
over there that I need to see?

Speaker 1 (03:15):
He wants to know.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
No, Jennifer tells him, routine business. I'll send out the
routine replies. Good, he says, and rocks back and forth
on his feet a bit restless.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Herb inters.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
He and Carlson and Jennifer exchange greetings. Carlson wants to
know how HERBS end of the operation is going.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Fine. Fine.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Herb tells him no, problems, Carlson wants to know. No,
I think we're on the verge of turning this station around.
Herb says, you know, the previous management here had things
pretty screwed up around here. No offense, He goes back
into his office. Carlson still doesn't go into his office.
He wanders over and fiddles with Jennifer's hanging plants. Don't

(03:54):
touch them, Jennifer cautions, and Carlson immediately backs away and
heads for the magazine wreck. We got any new trade
magazines in here, broadcasting or engineering news, Carlson asser, No,
you told me you didn't like to read about the
radio business, so I canceled the subscriptions. Oh yes, Carlson
has forgotten. Less enters bustling as usual. Carlson gives him

(04:16):
a hearty greeting. How's the news operation going, he asks?
Who wants to know?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Less is suspicious? As usual?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I do just me, you know, the station manager. Oh,
in that case, it's going just fine. No problems, good good.
So what seems to be the big story of the day,
tax reform, inflation, the war in Africa, and in football.
This could be the year for the Bengals, or maybe not.
It's too early to tell and it's fifty five degrees
in cloudy. Oh well, thanks for the update. Keep up

(04:47):
the good work. Thanks big guy, and Less heads down
the hall for his office. Well, everything seems to be
running smoothly, Carlson tells Jennifer. Yes, nice for a change,
isn't it. I guess so, Carlson said, and heads for
his office. He turns back to her. Sure there's nothing
I can help with, No nothing, okay, Sen Travis into

(05:07):
my office. When he gets in, okay, Carlson goes into
his office and scene this is kind of setting up
the way the original scene did, or the scene that
made the final cut of the episode. It's got that
feel to it right.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Well, like we were talking before, this is like the
bones of the episode.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, you can see the rough there. It's kind of
like if you equate it to a sculpture. They've started
getting a lot of the big stuff off and you
can kind of see the underlying sculpture under there. But
there's still a lot of work to do, right, and
a lot of jokes, just putting in a lot of
jokes mm hm.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
But in the airing, the little tweaks and just the
finer tunes that you got from Hugh Wilson's writing. You
can really see that well.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
And also the speed when you're locked into that twenty
five minutes that you've got to squeeze an episode into,
you've got to cut out the stuff that does make
you laugh immediately. And that's what a lot of this
to me felt bigger longer. It just needed editing, It
needed to be cut down, needed to get sharper.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
That was a lot of it.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
And then, like we talked about, you said that you
know the in this it says Jennifer just has two
stacks of mail. One of them's important stuff, the other
one's the junk mail, whereas in the final airing it's
gotten down to the only thing Art gets is one
tiny little postcard looking thing out of all the mail,
which is much funnier than handing him a stack of
junk mail.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
And also we've discussed how well Hugh Wilson knows the
characters and intimately, and there's a couple of places. For instance,
when Herb enters, the first thing he does in the
final air is he hits on Lonnie Anderson.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, he's got a line for Jennifer, which we don't
get in this, So a lot of things like that
that we see coming in through the punch up. We
also got a time queue in the final episode. In
the actual episode, when Less does his little newscast, he says,
Thursday is Thanksgiving, which now kind of gives us a

(07:08):
position in time, and we don't get that here, right.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
That gives us the whole reason for this episode.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, and the idea that we're a lot closer to
Thanksgiving than it feels like here. And actually, as we
get further in this outline, you're gonna hear us say,
you know, two days later and three days later. The
outline took the episode over a much longer time span
than the episode wound up being over in the final
cut of it, and a lot of that is kind
of key because of Less's statement here right at the

(07:37):
top when he does his newscast at.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
The end of the scene you just read, Carlson goes
into his office, and in the actual airing of the
final episode, he does not go into his office. He
heads back to review the troops.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, he's heading back there to make his tour of
the station. Where here he just moves right into his office.
As we go into scene two of the outline. In
Tier Carlson's office.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Carlson enters and goes to his desk. He sits for
a moment and taps his fingers on the desk. Then
he gets up and goes to look out the window.
Then he sits down and picks up the phone and
buzzes Jennifer. Jennifer, what time is it?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Nine?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Ten? Fine? Seems later that's all. Carlson tries to thumb
through a magazine, but he's bored and he closes it.
There's a knock on the door. Andy enters. You wanted
to see me? He asks, Yeah, come on in here,
you rascal. You so and sow you rough and ready guy.
Carlson's bluff camaraderie puzzles Andy for a moment. He comes

(08:37):
in sits down, So Carlson continues, what's the big picture?
The big picture? Yeah, give me the rundown, the overview.
You're my right arm dog? Gone you what's happening out
there in the field? Oh you mean, how's business? Give
it to me, hot shot. Well, everything's fine, going along

(08:58):
about as could be expected. We've had a few starting
up problems, but that was to be anticipated. Sure, The
client's dropping out like flies, the enraged old listeners writing
in the lobby. You'll learn to take these things in stride,
Carlson says, Well, the point is we did take them
in stride, and now we're getting more and more new listeners,

(09:19):
and Herb is learning how to sell the new format
Less is getting sharper every day. I think we may
be able to tell your mother very soon that this
station is operating in the black. Well. That's good, that's
just perfect, say Andy. I wonder if you could help
me with something. Sure, mister Carlson, Well, everybody here is
doing so well and all. I just wondered if you

(09:40):
could tell me how you think I'm doing. I think
you're doing just fine? You do, I see why? Well,
I don't know what you mean. Dog gone at Andy,
I want to do something. It seems like I just
come in here every morning and roam around the office.
Herb's got sales nailed down, taking care of programming. Jennifer

(10:02):
answers all the mail. I'm in charge, and I want
to get involved here. Tell me Andy, what exactly is
my job around here? Andy's puzzled, but he tries to answer.
You're the big guy, the station manager. You're the boss.
I know all that. That's just what I am. What
I want to know is what do I do? The

(10:25):
boss can do anything he wants to do. Uh huh.
Carlson seems satisfied at that answer. But mister Carlson, I
thought you liked to be left alone. Everything I've done
here is to take the burden off your shoulders, to
leave you free to consider larger issues than mere day
to day operations problems. Yes, that's right, Travis, that's exactly

(10:47):
what I wanted you to do. But now I don't
want you to do it. I don't understand. I've got
to keep my hand in here. You said it yourself.
I am the boss and I'm going to start behaving
like one now. And Carlson starts behaving like a generalissimo,
pacing up and down, hands behind his back. I want

(11:08):
to approve personally everything that goes on here, programming, sales, engineering, traffic, promotion,
the works. Get it, fine, Andy says, I'll let everybody
know you do that. Travis. You're a good man, But
I'm the big guy, and don't ever forget that. I won't.
And Andy's gone. Carlson has puffed himself up now and

(11:31):
is feeling his oats. He rings Jennifer on the intercom, Jennifer,
this is the big guy, bring me something to sign scene.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
So we get some beats in here that we see
in the final episode. We've got the whole Andy, you know,
tell me what the word is on the street and
he goes, oh, you mean, how's business? That's a line.
But we miss that whole tour and those fun little
short scenes. We miss the dog scene in the studio
with Johnny because that's part of Art's tour, and then

(12:01):
him going into the programming office and that's where we
have the whole t shirt conundrum with Bailey. Foreign stuff shrinks,
you know, those kinds of jokes were not there. And
then we eventually get to Art's office and that's where
we get this calling Andy in and then Art saying
he wants to approve everything that's going on. But again,
it just felt like we need to edit.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
It needed to be shortened, and that's why it appears later.
The scene in his office appears later where he does
do all of a lot of this again the bare.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Bones yeah, and it's just pulling a couple of beats
out of this scene. They're just a couple of things
that worked, but they cut a lot of it away. Again,
we're sculpting.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
One of the lines that they did cut away that
I thought was was important was when he's talking to
Travis and he tells him you're my right hand man.
You're a good man, one of the best.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Carlson uses that, Oh no, that was added in. That
was added in and made it to the final episodes.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
That's what I mean. He uses that term, and it
was not here.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Right right, And it's all those things that we're seeing,
that punch up and that bouncing it around the writer's room,
and a lot of the influence of Hugh Wilson. Yes,
all right, we're ready for seeing three.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Scene three Andy's office. A couple of days later.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
He's at his desk. Johnny enters fuming, I've had it
man overload, and he asked Johnny to sit down and
tell him what's wrong. It's Carlson, Johnny tells him. Every
morning for a week now, Carlson has been calling him
in the booth with suggestions for records he once played.
Now he started to suggest patter it's too much. I
do my own show, my own way, Johnny says, I'll

(13:39):
talk to him. Andy says, Bucky Dornster enters in a huff. Travis,
what's all this about? No new patch chords for the transmitter.
I don't know what you mean, Bucky. What happened? Hey, pal,
I'm the chief engineer around here. If I ORed her
patch chords, I don't want some half baked disc jockey
like you canceling the order. I didn't cancel the order, Carlson. Carlson, impossible,

(14:03):
that wimp wouldn't dare mess with me in Local six
oh one. I can bring this station to its knees
with the flick of a single switch. And don't you
forget it. I'll talk to mister Carlson and you go
ahead and order whatever you want herban Les Center.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Both are upset. Andy.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
You've got to do something about the big guy. Andy asked,
what's gone wrong now? Herb says the big guy wants
to meet all the new clients, and so far he's
scared off a couple of big spenders from the local headshop.
Less says, Carlson is insisting on writing editorials for the
news show. So far, he's pissed off the Chamber of Commerce,
a couple of banks, and this morning the mayor called

(14:40):
to say he resents being called a whipper snapper. Carlson
called the mayor of Cincinnati a whipper snapper on the air.
Bailey enters, also upset. Andy now has a room full
of discontent employees. Bailey says that Carlson grilled her about
just exactly what her job is, and when she explained
some of the promotions to him, he got very annoyed

(15:01):
and said promotions were his responsibility and not hers. What
do I do, she wants to know. Andy tells him
he'll go in and take it up with Carlson, but
Carlson saves him the trouble by appearing in the doorway.
Ah good, you're all here. I wanted to call a
meeting anyway, mister Carlson, there seems to be some problems here.

(15:22):
Andy says, nonsense. I'm just whipping this place into line.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Now.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I've called you here to announce that I have just
concluded a deal which will make radio history. We will
stage the biggest Thanksgiving promotion ever that details our secret.
Just carry out your instructions. I'll need a helicopter and
twenty live turkeys, hop to it. And Carlson leaves a

(15:48):
consternated bunch of folks fade out scene an end of
act one.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
All right, so there are a lot of a lot
of things here.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Well, the biggest thing is Bucky Dornster, right.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Bucky Dornster, who who was played.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
By Bill, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Who wrote this outline.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
And Bill has got the acting bug. Obviously, Bucky did
make it onto screen in Hold Up. He was the
engineer on site during the remote at Dell Stereo Shop.
And I think that was a bad idea to let
Bill get on stage.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Because now he's writing himself.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Bill is putting himself into scenes and in a big.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Way, giving himself quite a few lines.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Most of the lines in that scene were BUCkies. Oh
but we get the we get the everybody mad, We
kind of get that feeling. But again, it's let's punch
it up now, let's make it funny, and it's it's
not these these kind of pedestrian complaints that we're hearing
here become the funny complaints when everybody's coming in and
attacking Andy.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
And what became the final episode.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yes, Johnny's line where in the final episode where he says,
I took this job cart because I thought Carlson was
like me, a guy who doesn't quite know what's going
on and likes it that way. Yeah, that was written
in later.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, and well, and also a big deal that is
a part of this face off scene in the programming
office that was part of the final episode that is
not here at all, is separating out those casually dressed
people from Barb Bless and the big guy, and we
don't get any of that confrontation, which became kind of

(17:30):
a big part of the episode.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
It really was. That separation was there throughout.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
And also one of the lines that gave you quite
a chuckle was when Herb entered and was told to
get in line and he went to the end of
the line that visual gag that was not there, and
I think that's a Hugh Wilson for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, and he was so good at those visual gags.
We've seen in so many different places, and all of
it is just that make it sharper, make it funnier,
punch it up. But you can kind of see it's
out of focus, but we're getting you know, we can
see the bare bones of the show in here.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
And we also talked about how in this scene Bill
Dile kind of blew the line gave away the oh
idea of the episode when he mentioned in the outline
that Carlson said he wanted a helicopter, and twenty live
turkeys hopped to Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
And then you lose that. And something I noticed when
we get to you know that scene with Less, it's
Pineable shopping mall, and Less says it looks like a helicopter.
And when they cut back into the studio, you see everybody.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Going a helicopter.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yes, well here, if he'd have been given away here,
it wouldn't have been a surprise, but it was a
big surprise in the final cut of the episode. And
again it's how you structure telling that joke, and it
was telling that joke that they were working on, and
you don't want to give away that you.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Got a helicopter exactly. All right, Ready, well that was
the end of Act one.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
You're ready for Act two? All right?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Act two, Scene four, and we're not sure about Bill's
scene numbering, but he does continue consecutively with the scene numbers.
But we've got a second act now, so this is
Act two seen for interior Carlson's office a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Later, Carlson is behind his desk, looking and feeling like
General Patten. Andy and Less are there. Jennifer is there,
feverishly taking dictation. Carlson is finishing the dictation and furthermore,
this one way street nonsense has got to stop. You,
as the so called mayor of this city, ought to

(19:33):
know better. Sign that and get it in the mail
right away. Jennifer is angry about all this extra work,
but she does as she's told and gets up to leave.
Andy asks Carlson for more details of the Thanksgiving promotion,
but Carlson won't tell him. If everybody carries out his
own responsibility, everything will come together and the promotion will

(19:55):
be a great success. He hands Andy a sealed envelope.
These are the teaser announcements and the format for the remote.
Don't give them to Johnny until just before we go
on the air. Less, have you arranged for the remote coverage? Yes,
Less tells him, But I can't really do my job
unless I know what it is you want me to do.

(20:18):
You're a reporter, aren't you, Carlson tells him. Report. You
just be at the Pinedale Shopping Center at eleven and
call it like you see it. Less agrees, but is puzzled.
Less leaves. Andy gets up to leave. Carlson rises and
goes to the window, feeling a bit like Napoleon. I

(20:38):
hope you know what you're doing, mister Carlson. What of
course I know what I'm doing? Why do you think
they call me the big guy? Scene?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
And for me and this one the biggest gaff. Who
is that woman that was taking dictation? What was not Jennifer?

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Jennifer doesn't take dictator Noel.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
And actually this is one of the first points in
the series, in this episode where we found that out
when Art called her in for dictation and we got
that great, I don't take dictation, and the coffee was
even better.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I don't get coffee.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
We agreed, yes, none at that And that's.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Where Hugh Wilson comes in. How he knows the characters intimately,
the characters and would not do that.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
They live in his head. And yeah, he knows Jennifer
much better than Bill did obviously. Uh. And it just
it says Jennifer is angry about all this extra workman. No, no,
Jennifer is just not doing that work. That's not Jennifer.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
So that that's.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
And she was too cool to get angry. She never
you know, she kind of kept it in all the time.
She'd say, I don't take dictation, mister Carlson. We agreed. Yeah,
that was about as angry as she ever got.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
It was just very matter of fact.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
It was short.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
It was to the point, Yeah, I don't take dictation.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
And Bill Diele here talks about handing an envelope to
Andy to give to Johnny that contain the teaser announcements
and the format for the remote.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, he got into a lot of the technicals about
it well and.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
All, but he said, don't give it to Johnny until
just before we go on the air. So why have teasers?

Speaker 2 (22:09):
These aren't going to do much if you don't give
him until right before the event.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
But you know what this feels like.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
And I remember as a kid, when big movies would
come out, there would be the novelization of the movie.
Somebody would write a book that would be the movie. Well,
what they do is get a little bigger and a
little more flourishes, and you'd see lines in the book
that were in the movie, But then there'd be other
lines in there that weren't nearly as good, and it's
kind of the reverse. This is like the novelization of

(22:35):
this episode, and there's just way more in there than
needs to.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Be yes, And Herb is not in this scene. No,
and in the final airing he was because it sets
up the.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Whole by my side.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yes, be by my side, you're you're my main guy
or whatever. And in the final episode where Herb almost
tears up well, and also Carlson asks to be right.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
By the reference to you know, Herb is the man
who got the turkeys. We haven't had any of that reference.
He was given the assignment should have been in the
last scene to go get the turkeys. And then in
this scene he talks about having gotten the turkeys, so
no focus on getting the turkeys, which you know was
a lot of fun in the final cut of the episode.

(23:20):
So yeah, just to get a lot of that punch up.
And let's get to the funny.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Scene five DJ booth.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Johnny is at the board, Andy, Herb and Bailey are
there to listen to the remote broadcast of the Thanksgiving promotion.
At the end of a record, Johnny turns on the mic.
So it's eleven o'clock here at the Mighty Carapy and
turning to Andy, the envelope please. Andy gives him the
envelope and Johnny tears it open. This is the moment

(23:48):
we've all been waiting for, the moment when we learn
the details of the w Carapy Thanksgiving Aeriel extravaganza. He
reads from the pages he was handed. We take you
now to our live reporter on the scene at the
Pinedale Shopping Center. Take it away, less nessman. We hear
less over the speakers throughout the following. The people in

(24:09):
the control booth react accordingly to whatever happens. This is
less nessman. I'm standing here in front of the odd
sized shoe store in a crowd of say two to
three hundred people. We are all here to witness what
has been described as the greatest Thanksgiving event in history.
All we know is that five hundred live turkeys are
going to be given away by WKRP free to our

(24:33):
listeners Here at the Pinedale Shopping Center. The crowd is tense,
waiting for whatever is going to happen. I is scanning
the skies. Just a moment, I think I see something. Yes,
there it is coming in from the east. It's a helicopter.
Gues and there's something behind it, a banner. I can't
make it out. The chopper is getting closer. The crowd
is anxious, pressing forward. I can read the banner now
It says Happy Thanksgiving from WKARP. The copter is circling

(24:58):
the parking area. The crowd is moving out now into
the area, waiting. I don't know if there's room here
for it to land, or exactly what will happen. Now,
Wait a minute, I think something just came out of
the helicopter, A dark object. It's too far away to
see clearly, perhaps a skydiver. Now a second and a third.
Three objects are falling from the helicopter. Now a fourth.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
There are no parachute. Shit.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
If these are skydivers, they're extremely daring, plummeting to the
earth from only about two thousand feet above the shopping center.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
They don't look like skydivers.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
I can't tell yet just what they are.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
There's a pause.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Andy and the others exchange anxious looks.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
We hear screams and crashes in the background. It's terrible.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
They're turkeys.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
They're crashing to the pavement now in front of us.
One has gone through a windshield of a parked car.
I can't stay in this position much longer. The shouts
and scuffling grow louder. Several of the people here who
spotted me in the remote broadcast mike, and they seem
to be coming for me. Suddenly the line goes dead.
Johnny is stunned for a moment, but then turns to
his mic. Thanks LEAs for that. On the scene report,
be checking in with Less and the Thanksgiving extravaganza a

(26:03):
little later on right now the Atlanta rhythm section and
then an asterisk. Bucky Dornster will be in this scene too,
back behind the glass in the other control room. And
I'm not making that up. That is the last line
of the scene and scene.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Bill get in there a little bit more. Bucky, no lines,
no lines, but he was there.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Now, this is the you know, this is the Hindenburg
and the famous everything that goes on there. This is
setting it up. This is kind of setting the table
for it. And actually I'm surprised really how much of
Less's patter was retained in the final cut of the show.
You know, we've got a dark object and the sky

(26:52):
diverge from two thousand feet up and there are a
lot of details that made it, but boy, there's just a.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Lot that needed to be pared down again.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Well, starting at the beginning of the scene in the
final airing, remember the Johnny and Venus scene where they
talk about the Whig promotion.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I would almost even call that an entirely different scene.
It was a different story and a different everything. But yeah,
the whole Guatemalon earthquake victims story completely added in to
the final script, and.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Then Andy and Bailey enter and then it takes off, right.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
It's just this opportunity for this other funny story and
just this funny image that we can get with Johnny
talking to Venus and telling him that story. But none
of that in here. So all of that part of
the punch up.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
And in Bill Dile's outline he mentioned twenty turkeys at
the beginning of the outline some way, and in this
scene it's jumped up to five hundred turkeys.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Five hundred live turkeys are going to be given away.
I don't know if maybe early on Bill had And
you have to understand too, what we're looking at here
is typed on a typewriter, and sometimes times lines continue
on to the edge of the margin. There's no margin
there because they had a few more words he had
to get in and went back and instead of retyping

(28:08):
the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Thanks of it are double spaced parts of.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Single space where some things have been added, so you
know it was a work in progress.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Also, we don't get the well, the name of the
shoe store that Bill Dile has written in his odd
sized Shoe Store, which is funny, that's a cute name.
But we don't get in the final airing of Sam's
Sensible Shoes, the interaction between Les and Sam, who is
played by Michael.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Fairman, who's Less's writing partners writing party.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, so he didn't even have a part in in
Bill Dile's outline.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
All right.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Onto scene six, interior reception area.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Jennifer is busy with the phones. Andy is helping. We
hear Andy talking into one of the phones. No, mister Mayor,
I don't know anything more about it than what we heard.
They should be back any minute now and we'll get
to the bottom of it. Yes, I'll let you know
if mister Carlson was involved. He hangs up. Jennifer says, well,
that was the Humane Society. They plan to issue a

(29:10):
citation to whoever is responsible for this? What on earth
do you suppose happened out there? Carlson is in the doorway.
His clothes are torn to ribbons, his face and hands
are scratched. He stands there for a moment and then says,
quietly and calmly, it didn't go exactly the way I
planned it. He staggers for his office. Andy and Jennifer

(29:33):
offer to help, but Carlson says he wants to be alone.
They're really vicious creatures, you know. Who would have thought it?
And Carlson is gone into his office. Less enters. He's
as banged up and ragged as Carlson. What on earth happened? Less?
Jennifer gets Less some water, and he sits down to
tell his story. Well, after the turkeys hit the pavement,

(29:56):
the crowd scattered. Some of them tried to attack me,
but I jammed myself into a phone booth. The big
guy had the helicopter land in the parking lot, and
then he turned the rest of the turkeys loose. I
guess he figured that he'd let the people chase him
on the ground. Well, what happened next was the turkeys

(30:16):
mounted a counter attack. It was terrible. People running everywhere,
turkeys jumping up and down and chasing them. It was
the strangest thing. They seemed to be organized. There was
one big one that led four others after mister Carlson.
It was quite a chase until they cornered him in
a pizza parlor. I think we're gonna have to pay

(30:38):
those pizza people something. Finally we got all the turkeys
rounded up and the police came the fire department. I've
never seen anything like it. The door to Carlson's office opens.
Why didn't you tell me turkeys can't fly? He asks
of everyone in general scene.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Aside from the double negative in the final line there, why.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Didn't you tell me they can't?

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Oops, well that works well bad.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
That wasn't the final line of the shows.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Why didn't you?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Why didn't you tell me they can't?

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
It really does work, but it's kind of a really
awkward structure for that sentence.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, but grammatically it's okay, Yeah, it does work.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
There were several lines of his that they did keep in,
but a lot of punch up.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
And you know what's funny is the line that Hugh
Wilson in the Oral History claimed was Bill Diles was
a punch up line, mister Colly, and the actual talk
to the Humane Society, because we hear Jennifer's side of
the conversation with the Humane Society in the final cut
of the episode, and here it's just her talking about
having made the call or.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Thought the line that they said was his was the
A lot of turkeys don't make it through Thanksgiving, which.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Is what she's saying to the man from the Humane
Society on the phone call. That line, the line that
she says is the one that Hugh identified as being
Bill's line, So that would have been a punch up line.
It's not here, No, it's not in this original outline,
So that's you know, and really the next step for
this what he would have done after this, they would
have all gone through and noted everything. They'd have made

(32:14):
notes throughout it, and then handed it back to Bill,
and then the next step would have been him to
write the script.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
So maybe he came up with it in the one
of the editing sessions.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Well, and also, I mean, it's it's possible just anybody
else in the writer's room might have thrown one of
these lines out, and you know, that's that's kind of
what they're doing there is sitting around punching it up,
adding things to it, adding more fun and making it sharper.
But yeah, it's kind of fun to see where it started.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
One of the things that made it into the final
episode airing was when mister Carlson came in and Jennifer
offers to get him some coffee. And remember earlier in
a scene in the air final airing, she does not
get coffee. It was agreed upon.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Well, but that was the callback to that, and she
was giving into that to be nice to him, something
that I thought was funny. One of the great lines
in that final scene is when lest looks around and
says they seem to be organized, and the way he
says the word organized is so memorable. That line was
here in going all the way back to this outline, Yeah,
that they seem to be organize, but then again, you know,

(33:18):
cutting it down making it sharper. He goes on with that.
There was one big one that led four others after Carlson,
which that's a funny image, but it's just too much.
You just in the limitations of that sitcom structure. You
got to get to the funny and move on now.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
In Bill Dile's outline, he has Carlson standing in the doorway,
and in the final airing, remember Herb was with him,
but we didn't get that set up either in this outline,
so Herb couldn't be with it.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I theres no way Herb could have been with him,
So just a lot of them, and in the.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Final airing, Herb didn't have a single word in that scene,
but his presence there really helped make the scene memorable.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Something else we're getting here in the final outline that
we did not yet in the episode is another scene.
You know, I'd finished famously with Arthur in the doorway
and the famous line as God is my witness, I
thought turkeys could fly, which here we had Art in
the doorways saying why didn't you tell me turkeys can't fly?

(34:18):
Not nearly as strong a line, But then that was it.
That was the end of the show. Freeze. We've got
the credits up and then into the closing music. Well,
here in the outline we get one more scene.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Tag interior Carlson's office.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Several days later, Andy's there, Carlson has a stack of
mail on his desk. Who would have thought a few
crummy turkeys would have everybody stirred up like this. Don't
feel too bad, mister Carlson.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
You couldn't have known.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
It should have worked, Andy, I know it was a
terrific idea, wasn't it. Yes, a little ahead of its time.
Maybe I was always ahead of my time. Carlson gets
up to pace, looking still a bit battered and not
so much like Patent anymore. You know, Andy, I've been thinking,
I'm really too busy to attend to the day to
day details of operation around here. That's what I'm paying

(35:08):
you for anyway, am I right? You're right, I'm right.
I'll just stay in here and map out the big
plans for the future, you know, consider the alternatives, go
over my options, that sort of stuff. That's why they
call you the big guy, don't you forget it? Andy
grins and leaves. Carlson sits down at his desk, delighted
to have nothing to do. And the scene and the

(35:32):
evact and yeah, really.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
It wasn't really necessary.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
All right.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Well, that is our WKRP cast extra, a little Christmas
present for you at the end of twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Hope you enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Bill, Dile's original outline for Turkey's Away. We will be
back with a brand new episode on January twelfth, of
twenty twenty one. We hope you join us then, Happy New.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Year, May the good news be yours.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
The WKRP Cast is not endorsed by MTM Enterprises, Shout Factory,
or CBS. This podcast is intended for entertainment and informational
purposes only WKRP and Cincinnati. The WKRP logo and all names, pictures,
and audio of WKRP and Cincinnati characters are registered trademarks
of MTM, CBS, shout Factory, or their respective copyright holders.

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