In this heartfelt episode, Kate sits down with Kayla Mathieu of Wandering Past Limits to explore how your story—yes, even the messy parts—can become the foundation for a meaningful personal brand.
Kayla’s journey spans from high-stress RN and circus arts coach (seriously!) to full-time RV traveler, homeschooling mom, and wellness guide. But it didn’t start with a polished mission statement—it started with burnout, a family crisis, and a deep desire to live differently.
After her neurodivergent son was unjustly charged with a felony at age 11 (WHAT?!), Kayla and her husband left everything behind to build a life that actually worked for their family. That choice led to RV life, a dramatic shift in mental health, and ultimately the brand Kayla runs today—helping others find healing through travel, nature, and alignment.
If you’re sitting on life experience and wondering how to use it, this conversation is the permission slip you didn’t know you needed.
Key Takeaways
🧠When the system fails you, rewrite the rules
- Instead of forcing her son to fit into a system that harmed him, Kayla chose a radical reset: homeschooling on the road—and it changed everything.
🌿 Nature is medicine (and there’s science behind it)
- As a former RN, Kayla brings a unique perspective on how outdoor time and slower living support mental and physical health.
🎪 Your past isn’t a waste—it’s part of your brand
- Kayla’s eclectic background (circus arts, nursing, macrame, digital content creation) helped her land on a message and mission that truly fits.
📲 Exploration leads to clarity
- Kayla didn’t wait to have it all figured out. She tried things, followed what felt right, and let her brand evolve into something deeply aligned.
🔗 Connect with Kayla:
- Website, blog, travel guides & consultations: wanderingpastlimits.com
- Instagram: @wanderingpastlimits
- YouTube: Wandering Past Limits
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- Becoming Supernatural by Joe Dispenza
- Sourdough by Robin Sloan
- State Park Highlight: Sand Hollow State Park, UT
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I wouldn't see the sun the entire day.
You'd go in into the dark. You'd leave in the dark and
people wondered why you were so depressed or have anxiety.
And the same thing going to school with these kids.
They'd get up, they'd go to daycare, they'd be having to sit
for 8 hours a day. They're not getting as much
sunlight as they need, or getting as much activity as they
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need. Welcome back to the RV Queens
Podcast, where we delve into thelives of women making money and
living life on the road. I'm your host, Kate White, and
this episode is one that is going to stay with you long
after you hear it. Kayla Matthew is on the show
today to talk about the radical and totally brave way that she
and her family reimagined their traditional American life after
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her son was diagnosed with multiple neuro divergent
conditions. When the school system and
traditional structures failed him, they hit the road.
What happened next? Healing, peace and family
connection, and a whole new sense of purpose for Kayla.
Through that transformation, Kayla found her voice and a
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calling. She's now built a brand called
Wandering Past Limits where she helps others discover Wellness
through adventure. Whether it's navigating life
with ADHD, reclaiming your mental health, or simply getting
back into nature, her message isclear.
There is another way to live andthrive.
Kayla's story is powerful and deeply relatable, especially if
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you've ever questioned the path you were told to follow.
Plus, we dive into her background as a nurse and a
circus artist. Yes, really.
The business she's building fromthe road and how she's weaving
it all together to help others live more grounded, connected
lives real quick before we dive in.
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your membership for life. All right my friends, grab your
coffee and let's roll. Hello and welcome to the RV
Queens podcast. Kayla, where in the world are
you this week? Currently in Kansas.
Oh really? I I don't know why I'm laughing
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so hard. I didn't expect that.
They're brand new places that I go.
I have a lot of like, you know, we're coming out of winter
season, so most people are like still in the South, like no
Kansas in spring. Have you guys been dealing with
any like tornado Y weird weathergoing on there?
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No tornadoes here, but two weeksago we had a big dust storm in
Oklahoma, so we were dealing with that a couple of weeks ago.
But so far it's been nice and inthe 70s here in Kansas.
I'm lakeside right now, my son is and doing his school work and
going fishing. Oh, perfect.
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Yes, I love it. I like to camp near water if at
all possible. It's just the best.
There's always something to do, right?
Yes. All right.
Kayla, you have a really fascinating story behind your
build up to RV life. I mean, you honestly have a
really fascinating story in general with your background in
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circus arts. As I've come to learn, that's
like the professional term for it.
And also you've lived through a lot of craziness as an RN back
in the day. So we'll kind of get into all
the nooks and crannies of your story.
But I want to start off with youbriefly describing the journey
with your son and why you and your husband decided to like
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totally shake up your life in South Dakota and start RV travel
life with your family. It's been almost three years
now. Actually, it's been three years.
My son, he is officially diagnosed with ADHD, disruptive
mood dysregulation disorder, oppositional defiant disorder,
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sensory processing disorder. All of these disorders actually
kind of come full circle into high functioning autism.
And while he was trying to go through school, even even before
he started kindergarten and daycare, we were having issues.
He was constantly being disciplined for his behaviors.
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He was constantly in this state of fight or flight mode.
Anything that went slightly wrong, he would either fight his
way out of it or he would run. When he was in the 1st grade, he
ran away from school. Cops had to come and find him
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when he was in the 6th grade, 11years old.
He was playing Gaga ball. I don't know if you know what
that is, but Contact Sport got into a fight.
And because at the age of 11, inthe state of South Dakota, if
you get into a fight, the parents can press charges,
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assault charges. And the boy that was involved in
the fight, his parents decided to press charges.
So we sent my son to a specialtyschool for kids with autism and
he did really, really well the first couple weeks.
Then he went to go play soccer, another contact sport, got into
another fight and put the boy ina headlock.
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A headlock is considered a chokehold.
And he was arrested and charged with felony assault at the age
of 11. So we had to have a, he would
because it was a felony charge. He was taken by the state and we
had to have a custody hearing toget him back into our custody
and then we had to go to court to fight these assault charges.
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Because of his age and because of his diagnosis, he didn't
really understand the court system or what was going on and
we spent six months fighting these charges.
He spent his 12th birthday in court, but we were able to see a
court appointed psychologist, psychiatrist who deemed him
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unfit to stand trial and we wereable to get all the charges
dropped. But this was kind of a wake up
call for us. He is not functioning well in
what we deem as necessary for kids.
Like they have to go sit in school.
They have to sit in class for solong.
And he just didn't fit that mold.
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So we just made this decision like, you know what?
We don't want him going down this path.
This is a slippery slope. He's only 11 and we're going to
court. This isn't going to get better.
This is just going to keep getting worse.
So we made the decision to pull him out of school, start
homeschooling and working with him and focusing one-on-one.
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And we have seen a complete flipin his personality.
We have seen a complete flip in how he reacts to dealing with
stimuli, being frustrated, and he has gotten so much better.
He is so much more helpful. Instead of having police
knocking at our door, now we actually have campground hosts
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knocking at our door telling us how amazing he is and how sweet
he is. It has been just an amazing turn
of events for him and for us. He has been doing so much
better. Well, thank you for like sharing
that story. I'm sure that's like, you know,
have some emotional weight to it, like recounting that.
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Sure, you've told that story a lot, but it's like still getting
it out there for people to hear.It's got to be challenging for
you. And also it takes a lot of
bravery. So thank you.
For sharing that and sharing this story too, I have found
that a lot of people have similar stories.
So just knowing that, hey, I'm not alone.
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If you have a similar story, you're not alone.
There are other options. There's holistic ways to deal
with it. You know, not everybody fits
that mold of sitting still in school.
There are issues that we need totake into account and really
help these kids. And this was, this has been a
huge benefit for him. I can kind of like see two sides
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of you, like kind of coming together with the story because
I know your history as a nurse and we'll kind of get into that
part of you in a little bit. But then also as a mother and
like a more, like you said, holistic minded person, You're
like, OK, like all of the the, the medical diagnosis and the
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systems, right? You were like in a healthcare
system and your kids were like in the regular school system.
All those things are kind of like failing you and you just
created a life that works and for your family and also, you
know, like leads to everyone thriving in your family unit
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instead of just being like, forced into these boxes.
Yes, that has been, I love that huge for us.
Yeah, yeah, OK. Well, we just started off really
deep. I usually, I usually like save
the more deeper questions till we have a warm up period.
But you know what, we just went there from the start.
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So thank you for going there with me.
We started off with a bang. I do want to give listeners some
insight into your multi passionate personality for a
minute and you know I have to bring it this topic.
Tell us about your experience inthe circus arts.
So my son gets his ADHD for mom and yeah, like you said, I'm
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multi passionate. I love doing all sorts of
things. After my daughter was born I
needed a workout program and I don't like traditional workouts.
I normally and I just stumbled into the circus arts.
After training for three years. We, me and my friend who had
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been training alongside each other started coaching at our
local gym and we have been coaching for about 3 years as
aerial artist, mostly in aerial silks.
I like to say it as it's two paneled curtains that you would
climb 20 feet in the air, wrap yourself in it, and then do all
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sorts of fun little moves and drops and things like that.
And I got to a point where we had so much fun teaching it.
We started doing performances and we had started our own
business. But then all the things with my
son started happening and I shifted away from that.
And now I help her in digital marketing.
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She started her own gym, so she has her gym now in performances
and I'm on the back end doing digital marketing for her and
helping her still build it. And actually, this summer I'll
probably be back in the gym helping her out a little bit.
Am I wrong in remembering did you like work with Cirque du
Soleil or is it just like Cirquedu Soleil style performances
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that you did? It's the style performances.
I have done training with some of the performers in Las Vegas,
but I never actually performed with any of the Cirque du Soleil
performers that. Is so cool.
For some reason it, it hits me as like especially ironic that
you're from South Dakota and that you're a performer in that
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way. I don't know why that like I
feel like everyone in South Dakota is just like a homemaker
mom that lives on the farm and you're like, no, in my spare
time I do aerial silks and. Teach.
People, how to do this? And I teach people how to fly in
the air and. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
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OK, so Speaking of you being multi passionate, something I
know about you from being in RV Queen circles with you over the
past year or so is that you've explored a lot of different ways
of making money on the road. At one point, I remember you
were working on like selling macrame online or something in
addition to, like, you know, starting to be a content
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creator. You've explored a lot of paths,
right? And I mean, we all have.
I love it. OK.
So will you please just describefor us all the little paths
you've explored with making money on the road and then how
you ended up with your brand that you have currently now
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wandering past limits? OK, this is another fun story.
So starting out fresh on the road, you know, I had left my
job as a registered nurse, working in an operating room and
leaving the healthcare field to homeschool my kids.
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I felt like I was lacking my ownidentity.
I had to give up my identity, who I was.
You know, I gave up working as aregistered nurse and then my
secondary job working as a circus performer.
I felt lost for a long time because I didn't know where I
fit in that mold. Like, what am I supposed to be
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doing? My husband has a great job and
he's able to support the family,but I felt like I needed
something for me and I started just kind of venturing into
different avenues. I started out as writing blogs.
So it was camping with Kayla, writing my blogs for just family
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and friends, and I found out that I really liked it.
I really enjoyed doing it. I liked writing.
I liked photography, taking pictures, but I had no idea what
I was doing. I had no background in digital
anything. I could barely turn on the
computer. So this was not something that I
thought I would ever really get into.
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But I started to really love it,but I had no idea what I was
doing. So I kind of reshifted focus
because I wanted to build my ownbrand, build my own business,
and I started working in thinking maybe macrame, boho,
something that I could create. I started it, I have some
products, but eventually I got so busy working with digital
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creating particular like my digital creation that I prefer
is YouTube videos. I really love making those long
form YouTube videos. I love making them educational.
I love teaching people new things.
So the Boho project kind of got pushed to the side, and instead
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I started focusing more on the YouTube channel, making long
videos and just teaching people,educating kids that.
That was huge for me. With that, my friend that I told
you about in the circus arts hadposted on LinkedIn.
She was looking for a digital marketer.
As I was getting into creating and getting more comfortable
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with the computer, I'm like, hey, hello, I'll do it.
So she hired me. Her background, she has a very
interesting background too. So she worked at the hospital,
but as a marketer. She was the director of
marketing at a major hospital inthe town we live in.
And she's like, I will teach youeverything I know.
So over the last six months I'vebeen helping her and she's been
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helping me and has been teachingme everything from website
design, how to create a website,to all of the different facets
of marketing and producing videos, even to a point of the
psychology of fonts. She's been teaching me all of
it, which has been great. We've been helping each other.
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But from there, I again, still have that urge to start my own
brand, my own business. So camping with Kayla switched
gears and instead went into a area that I am really passionate
about, which is wandering past limits.
For me, that is a holistic platform where I can educate
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people about the benefits of nature, the benefits of travel,
and it can transform your mentalhealth, your physical health.
And that is really what I'm trying to switch gears to.
I feel like a lot of healthcare today is like medication.
This medication has this kind ofside effect.
Let's get you on another medication where I feel like
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there are so many different avenues that we could take more
holistically to help people. So I'm slowly bringing this into
my new brand and trying to help people in a different way.
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journey with our journey. How do you feel that you pulled
on your experience as a nurse when you created a brand that
inspires people to and I think your slogan is discover Wellness
through adventure. I get this, you know, from my
own personal experience, from myson's experience.
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How much we have benefited from being just even outside, how
sunlight gives so much more benefit than being locked into a
building for 8 hours. When I worked in as a nurse, I
wouldn't see the sun the entire day.
You'd go in in the dark. You'd leave in the dark and
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people wondered why you're so depressed or have anxiety and
the same thing going to school with these kids.
They'd get up, they'd go to daycare, they'd be having to sit
for 8 hours a day, they're not getting as much sunlight as they
need or getting as much activityas they need.
So being a nurse and seeing thatthere are other ways to treat
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people instead of just here, take this pill for anxiety,
here, take this pill, there are other options.
So I want to give people who areseeking other options those
other ways. I'm still digging into it.
I'm still fairly new into building this website.
Anybody who's built a website and built a brand knows this
does take time, but eventually I'd like to become a certified
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coach and helping people find their Wellness as a registered
nurse. I love that.
Thank you for giving us a littlepreview of what where your brand
is heading to this. Is where we're going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I and I love it when people
develop this personal brand. I've seen this with a lot of RV
Queens, like throughout the RV queen circles, they know they
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want to start a personal brand and similar to you, explore all
these different avenues and like, eventually they find the
path and are able to hone in on,OK, this, this kind of like
encapsulate everything that I'vecome from and my personality and
my thoughts. And here's what I want to say.
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And now here's my personal brand, which I think is an
extremely important thing to have just as a professional
moving into the next decade, I think.
Everyone should have it and we're fortunate to be travelling
and able and like digital nomadsand we have like kind of the
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time and space to explore these things and and like hone in on
The Voice that we want to put out there into the world.
So I love that you've kind of combined all these different
experiences in your life to develop Wandering past limits.
So I I do want to hear can you tell a difference in your own
mental health from the time you started RV life until now?
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Yes so I suffered from extreme anxiety, anxiety and panic
attacks and that was hard not I didn't even realize how bad it
was until we started our RV Traveling and finding different
ways to deal with anxiety has been a huge thing for me.
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Problems with like OCD and checking everything.
I couldn't sleep at night because my brain was always just
what if this happens, what if this happens and being on the
road. It wasn't an overnight change
either. It was a slowly trying to
realize what is going on and thedifferent aspects that I can use
to calm my mind, calm my body. What it came down to, honestly,
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for me was meditation. Once I started meditating on a
regular basis, my body just calmed down.
And then also not being in a state of constant stress.
Believe your husband's a nurse, he can.
He can relate to this. But working in the hospital was
a constant stressor. You were constantly moving, you
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were constantly busy. Everything was happening all the
time. There's emergencies.
The burnout is real. And it became so stressful that
I couldn't let it go. It took me a year of being on
the road to just really decompress and find a space
where I felt safe, where I felt OK to just relax and I wasn't on
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this constant edge all the time that.
Story is so relatable with so many people I've met on the
road. I think a lot of us especially
like what I've come to call likehigh achieving women where, you
know, we've always, I feel like from the age of like, you know,
late teens, always been working.And then we went to college and
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you know, like excelled and thenwe had a job and we had a career
and it was, it's just like chronic stress for like over a
decade in your life. And this, this is was my
experience. This was my husband's
experience, other people we've met on the road, a lot of women
in the RV queen circles. It's like there's just, there
was just this constant non-stop pushing, which is literally
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chronic stress. And I think our parents probably
lived through it to some point growing up.
But it's like so apparent to me,people living kind of the more
traditional American life where it's like 2, both parents have
to work in the household and thekids are going to school.
It's like they're running around.
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It's like non-stop. And it throws your body out of
whack in ways that's like you don't even understand when
you're in the middle of it. You can't really recognize, you
know what I mean? Like you can't recognize that
you're just like constantly stressed out about something
until you get out in nature. Like everything that your brain
is about. It's like and resonates with me
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so much because it's like you get out of nature, you give
yourself time to rest and like let down and to have moments,
you know, meditation for me, it's like yoga, you know, like
just figure out how to like regulate yourself so you're not
having that constant stress and anxiety.
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It's huge. That's like the number one thing
about this lifestyle that I think has made an impact clearly
for you and your family. But like, for a lot of us, that
would be down the road just likethis, pulling back the curtain
of whoa, this constant stress, It doesn't have to be that way,
you know, There is another way to live.
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Yes, exactly. Travel has been a huge part of
what has changed our family dynamic.
We used to be running constantly.
It was go to work, go to outdooractivities, go run around.
It got to a point where I was sobusy I would only see my kids 10
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minutes a day, if that. You had the weekends with them
and it was cleaning and getting all this other stuff done.
It was just constant motion. So being able to travel has been
huge for our family and bringingus together close into a close
knit bond where we can actually communicate with each other.
We have better communication skills and that is something
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that I am currently trying to help others find in their family
dynamics or just in their own over in their own general
Wellness. So while I'm working on getting
my certified nurse coaching, I currently have my website open
(25:59):
for consultations and travel. If you have any questions about
travel or outdoor Wellness or anything like that, you can find
me on my website and set up a consultation where I'd be more
than happy to break down everything that I know about
travel, where to go, great places to go, good hikes for
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kids, anything that I can help you with.
So that's currently what my website is up and running.
And then eventually as I keep building and to get the
certification, I will open it upfor more Wellness as a
registered nurse. I love that.
I think that's going to help so many people.
(26:41):
So girl, I just love everything you're about.
Thank you. Get off the meds, get back to
nature, do some travel, get the family unit, you know, working
and communicating together. It's such good stuff.
OK, so go ahead and share with everyone.
You kind of already talked aboutyour website.
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Share with us where people can connect with you online.
And then I'll ask you my last couple questions here.
So you can find me at Wandering Past Limits.
I have a YouTube channel that focuses on different places that
we've traveled to. A lot of great hikes, especially
for kids. Normally when we go hiking we
take our kids with. So if you're looking for a great
(27:22):
location to that is kid friendly, head over to my webs
to my YouTube channel. You can also head over to my
website, Wandering Past Limits, where I do have multiple
different blogs up that focus onnature, health, Wellness.
I'm also adding travel itineraries.
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My recent one is about Big Bend.So if you're interested in
finding all the good spots at Big Bend, how to get there, what
to do, head over to my website. You can also find me on social
media Wandering past Limits. Perfect, and we will link
everything in show in the show notes for all you listeners.
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Just quickly Scroll down and tapBoom, we'll be on our website.
All right, to end, here we go. This season of the podcast, I've
been ending with these one in one questions where I ask a
question, you answer, I'll answer.
It's just kind of fun and conversational.
So my first question today is, what is your most memorable
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outdoor adventure that you've had with your family?
Oh, most memorable would probably be Hawaii.
We took a family cruise to Hawaii.
If you're looking for a Hawaii trip on a budget, I highly
recommend taking a cruise to Hawaii.
We went over Christmas. It was probably one of our most
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memorable experiences as a family.
We did a lot of hiking at the national parks.
My tip, if you do take a cruise to Hawaii, rent a car instead of
doing any of the excursion packages.
Rent a car. Travel the islands on your own.
It's a great way to see everything.
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It's cheaper than the excursionsand one of the places that we
went to gave us boogie boards and all sorts of beach beach
equipment free of charge. We got to rent it from them when
we took the kids boogie boardingout in Maui.
Hands down best family experience.
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Best outdoor experience that would be mine.
That's awesome. Oh my gosh.
Well, mine isn't quite Hawaii level, but this past year we did
a big loop out West in 2024 and one of the places that we really
liked even like we did all the national parks and Zion and
(29:54):
Grand Canyon and all that stuff.But in Utah, we hit up this
place right outside of Hurricane, UT, which is like
close to Zion and Saint George and all this stuff.
And there's a State Park there called Sand Hollow State Park.
And we splurged on AI think it'sis that a UTV or an ATVI, can't
(30:16):
remember which. Basically like a little dune
buggy thing for the afternoon. And that State Park was so epic.
I felt like it should be a National Park.
Like there's so many different terrains.
You have the dunes that you can drive through, and then there's
like these crazy red rock formations that the kids like
climbed and explored. It's just insanely beautiful and
(30:39):
super fun and not very busy. It was amazing so.
Yeah, San Hallow is one of my favorite state parks.
We've been there twice now. Oh really?
It's so. Fun, yes.
And and no one, I mean, I think it's because there's so much
natural beauty in that area. Everyone's like, yeah, whatever,
San Paulo State Park. But for, you know, us
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Midwesterners, we just could notget enough of the terrain so.
Loved it. Yeah, yeah.
OK. My last question for you is
this. What is a book you're reading
these days that you're really into?
I have been listening to an audio book about becoming
supernatural. Oh, I love it.
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It's a meditation book, but it'sreally interesting about trying.
It's like Manifest Destiny. How to manifest your destiny?
Yeah. Is that by Gabby?
Bernstein. I know she has a lot of books
like that. No, this it's a Joe Dispenza.
Oh yeah, he's awesome. His meditations are like next
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level, yeah. So I've been listening to that.
It's been very interesting. They're very thought provoking.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm going to have to look
that one up now. Well, mine is like very shallow
compared to that. I found I tend to find these
books that I really like from laundry room, you know, at
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campgrounds, how people just like leave books and take a book
and leave a book kind of thing. I found this one.
It's it's about this woman who works in tech and she kind of
like happens upon or I should say she's gifted a sourdough
starter. I actually have it right here
because I knew I couldn't remember the title of it
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Sourdough or Lois and her adventures in the underground
market. For those watching on Spotify or
YouTube, there's the cover. And I think I like it so much
because she, the main character,works this like really techy,
nerdy job and her life is very sterile.
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Like her. She works so much that her
apartment is just basically a shell of a home.
And then she happens upon learning how to bake bread and
becoming like just much more in touch with, you know, natural
life away from technology. And you know, as we've discussed
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in this conversation, that's kind of like progression we've
all been on over the past few years here.
Let's go from like this very cerebral, like rushed, I would
say like sterile life to whoa, let's just get into nature and
back to like grounding ourselvesso.
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Less is. More, Yes, so true.
All righty Kayla, that's a wrap for today.
Thank you so much for inspiring us all, for being on the show
today, for sharing your stories.I really enjoyed this
conversation and even just getting to know you more.
It's always fun. Thank you so much for having me,
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Road There is another way to live.
I wouldn't see the sun the entire day.
You'd go in into the dark. You'd leave in the dark and
people wondered why you were so depressed or have anxiety.
And the same thing going to school with these kids.
They'd get up, they'd go to daycare, they'd be having to sit
for 8 hours a day. They're not getting as much
sunlight as they need, or getting as much activity as they
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need. Welcome back to the RV Queens
Podcast, where we delve into thelives of women making money and
living life on the road. I'm your host, Kate White, and
this episode is one that is going to stay with you long
after you hear it. Kayla Matthew is on the show
today to talk about the radical and totally brave way that she
and her family reimagined their traditional American life after
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her son was diagnosed with multiple neuro divergent
conditions. When the school system and
traditional structures failed him, they hit the road.
What happened next? Healing, peace and family
connection, and a whole new sense of purpose for Kayla.
Through that transformation, Kayla found her voice and a
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calling. She's now built a brand called
Wandering Past Limits where she helps others discover Wellness
through adventure. Whether it's navigating life
with ADHD, reclaiming your mental health, or simply getting
back into nature, her message isclear.
There is another way to live andthrive.
Kayla's story is powerful and deeply relatable, especially if
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you've ever questioned the path you were told to follow.
Plus, we dive into her background as a nurse and a
circus artist. Yes, really.
The business she's building fromthe road and how she's weaving
it all together to help others live more grounded, connected
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your membership for life. All right my friends, grab your
coffee and let's roll. Hello and welcome to the RV
Queens podcast. Kayla, where in the world are
you this week? Currently in Kansas.
Oh really? I I don't know why I'm laughing
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so hard. I didn't expect that.
They're brand new places that I go.
I have a lot of like, you know, we're coming out of winter
season, so most people are like still in the South, like no
Kansas in spring. Have you guys been dealing with
any like tornado Y weird weathergoing on there?
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No tornadoes here, but two weeksago we had a big dust storm in
Oklahoma, so we were dealing with that a couple of weeks ago.
But so far it's been nice and inthe 70s here in Kansas.
I'm lakeside right now, my son is and doing his school work and
going fishing. Oh, perfect.
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Yes, I love it. I like to camp near water if at
all possible. It's just the best.
There's always something to do, right?
Yes. All right.
Kayla, you have a really fascinating story behind your
build up to RV life. I mean, you honestly have a
really fascinating story in general with your background in
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circus arts. As I've come to learn, that's
like the professional term for it.
And also you've lived through a lot of craziness as an RN back
in the day. So we'll kind of get into all
the nooks and crannies of your story.
But I want to start off with youbriefly describing the journey
with your son and why you and your husband decided to like
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totally shake up your life in South Dakota and start RV travel
life with your family. It's been almost three years
now. Actually, it's been three years.
My son, he is officially diagnosed with ADHD, disruptive
mood dysregulation disorder, oppositional defiant disorder,
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sensory processing disorder. All of these disorders actually
kind of come full circle into high functioning autism.
And while he was trying to go through school, even even before
he started kindergarten and daycare, we were having issues.
He was constantly being disciplined for his behaviors.
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He was constantly in this state of fight or flight mode.
Anything that went slightly wrong, he would either fight his
way out of it or he would run. When he was in the 1st grade, he
ran away from school. Cops had to come and find him
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when he was in the 6th grade, 11years old.
He was playing Gaga ball. I don't know if you know what
that is, but Contact Sport got into a fight.
And because at the age of 11, inthe state of South Dakota, if
you get into a fight, the parents can press charges,
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assault charges. And the boy that was involved in
the fight, his parents decided to press charges.
So we sent my son to a specialtyschool for kids with autism and
he did really, really well the first couple weeks.
Then he went to go play soccer, another contact sport, got into
another fight and put the boy ina headlock.
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A headlock is considered a chokehold.
And he was arrested and charged with felony assault at the age
of 11. So we had to have a, he would
because it was a felony charge. He was taken by the state and we
had to have a custody hearing toget him back into our custody
and then we had to go to court to fight these assault charges.
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Because of his age and because of his diagnosis, he didn't
really understand the court system or what was going on and
we spent six months fighting these charges.
He spent his 12th birthday in court, but we were able to see a
court appointed psychologist, psychiatrist who deemed him
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unfit to stand trial and we wereable to get all the charges
dropped. But this was kind of a wake up
call for us. He is not functioning well in
what we deem as necessary for kids.
Like they have to go sit in school.
They have to sit in class for solong.
And he just didn't fit that mold.
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So we just made this decision like, you know what?
We don't want him going down this path.
This is a slippery slope. He's only 11 and we're going to
court. This isn't going to get better.
This is just going to keep getting worse.
So we made the decision to pull him out of school, start
homeschooling and working with him and focusing one-on-one.
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And we have seen a complete flipin his personality.
We have seen a complete flip in how he reacts to dealing with
stimuli, being frustrated, and he has gotten so much better.
He is so much more helpful. Instead of having police
knocking at our door, now we actually have campground hosts
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knocking at our door telling us how amazing he is and how sweet
he is. It has been just an amazing turn
of events for him and for us. He has been doing so much
better. Well, thank you for like sharing
that story. I'm sure that's like, you know,
have some emotional weight to it, like recounting that.
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Sure, you've told that story a lot, but it's like still getting
it out there for people to hear.It's got to be challenging for
you. And also it takes a lot of
bravery. So thank you.
For sharing that and sharing this story too, I have found
that a lot of people have similar stories.
So just knowing that, hey, I'm not alone.
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If you have a similar story, you're not alone.
There are other options. There's holistic ways to deal
with it. You know, not everybody fits
that mold of sitting still in school.
There are issues that we need totake into account and really
help these kids. And this was, this has been a
huge benefit for him. I can kind of like see two sides
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of you, like kind of coming together with the story because
I know your history as a nurse and we'll kind of get into that
part of you in a little bit. But then also as a mother and
like a more, like you said, holistic minded person, You're
like, OK, like all of the the, the medical diagnosis and the
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systems, right? You were like in a healthcare
system and your kids were like in the regular school system.
All those things are kind of like failing you and you just
created a life that works and for your family and also, you
know, like leads to everyone thriving in your family unit
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instead of just being like, forced into these boxes.
Yes, that has been, I love that huge for us.
Yeah, yeah, OK. Well, we just started off really
deep. I usually, I usually like save
the more deeper questions till we have a warm up period.
But you know what, we just went there from the start.
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So thank you for going there with me.
We started off with a bang. I do want to give listeners some
insight into your multi passionate personality for a
minute and you know I have to bring it this topic.
Tell us about your experience inthe circus arts.
So my son gets his ADHD for mom and yeah, like you said, I'm
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multi passionate. I love doing all sorts of
things. After my daughter was born I
needed a workout program and I don't like traditional workouts.
I normally and I just stumbled into the circus arts.
After training for three years. We, me and my friend who had
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been training alongside each other started coaching at our
local gym and we have been coaching for about 3 years as
aerial artist, mostly in aerial silks.
I like to say it as it's two paneled curtains that you would
climb 20 feet in the air, wrap yourself in it, and then do all
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sorts of fun little moves and drops and things like that.
And I got to a point where we had so much fun teaching it.
We started doing performances and we had started our own
business. But then all the things with my
son started happening and I shifted away from that.
And now I help her in digital marketing.
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She started her own gym, so she has her gym now in performances
and I'm on the back end doing digital marketing for her and
helping her still build it. And actually, this summer I'll
probably be back in the gym helping her out a little bit.
Am I wrong in remembering did you like work with Cirque du
Soleil or is it just like Cirquedu Soleil style performances
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that you did? It's the style performances.
I have done training with some of the performers in Las Vegas,
but I never actually performed with any of the Cirque du Soleil
performers that. Is so cool.
For some reason it, it hits me as like especially ironic that
you're from South Dakota and that you're a performer in that
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way. I don't know why that like I
feel like everyone in South Dakota is just like a homemaker
mom that lives on the farm and you're like, no, in my spare
time I do aerial silks and. Teach.
People, how to do this? And I teach people how to fly in
the air and. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
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OK, so Speaking of you being multi passionate, something I
know about you from being in RV Queen circles with you over the
past year or so is that you've explored a lot of different ways
of making money on the road. At one point, I remember you
were working on like selling macrame online or something in
addition to, like, you know, starting to be a content
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creator. You've explored a lot of paths,
right? And I mean, we all have.
I love it. OK.
So will you please just describefor us all the little paths
you've explored with making money on the road and then how
you ended up with your brand that you have currently now
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wandering past limits? OK, this is another fun story.
So starting out fresh on the road, you know, I had left my
job as a registered nurse, working in an operating room and
leaving the healthcare field to homeschool my kids.
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I felt like I was lacking my ownidentity.
I had to give up my identity, who I was.
You know, I gave up working as aregistered nurse and then my
secondary job working as a circus performer.
I felt lost for a long time because I didn't know where I
fit in that mold. Like, what am I supposed to be
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doing? My husband has a great job and
he's able to support the family,but I felt like I needed
something for me and I started just kind of venturing into
different avenues. I started out as writing blogs.
So it was camping with Kayla, writing my blogs for just family
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and friends, and I found out that I really liked it.
I really enjoyed doing it. I liked writing.
I liked photography, taking pictures, but I had no idea what
I was doing. I had no background in digital
anything. I could barely turn on the
computer. So this was not something that I
thought I would ever really get into.
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But I started to really love it,but I had no idea what I was
doing. So I kind of reshifted focus
because I wanted to build my ownbrand, build my own business,
and I started working in thinking maybe macrame, boho,
something that I could create. I started it, I have some
products, but eventually I got so busy working with digital
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creating particular like my digital creation that I prefer
is YouTube videos. I really love making those long
form YouTube videos. I love making them educational.
I love teaching people new things.
So the Boho project kind of got pushed to the side, and instead
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I started focusing more on the YouTube channel, making long
videos and just teaching people,educating kids that.
That was huge for me. With that, my friend that I told
you about in the circus arts hadposted on LinkedIn.
She was looking for a digital marketer.
As I was getting into creating and getting more comfortable
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with the computer, I'm like, hey, hello, I'll do it.
So she hired me. Her background, she has a very
interesting background too. So she worked at the hospital,
but as a marketer. She was the director of
marketing at a major hospital inthe town we live in.
And she's like, I will teach youeverything I know.
So over the last six months I'vebeen helping her and she's been
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helping me and has been teachingme everything from website
design, how to create a website,to all of the different facets
of marketing and producing videos, even to a point of the
psychology of fonts. She's been teaching me all of
it, which has been great. We've been helping each other.
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But from there, I again, still have that urge to start my own
brand, my own business. So camping with Kayla switched
gears and instead went into a area that I am really passionate
about, which is wandering past limits.
For me, that is a holistic platform where I can educate
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people about the benefits of nature, the benefits of travel,
and it can transform your mentalhealth, your physical health.
And that is really what I'm trying to switch gears to.
I feel like a lot of healthcare today is like medication.
This medication has this kind ofside effect.
Let's get you on another medication where I feel like
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there are so many different avenues that we could take more
holistically to help people. So I'm slowly bringing this into
my new brand and trying to help people in a different way.
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Click the link in the show notesto book now and start your
journey with our journey. How do you feel that you pulled
on your experience as a nurse when you created a brand that
inspires people to and I think your slogan is discover Wellness
through adventure. I get this, you know, from my
own personal experience, from myson's experience.
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How much we have benefited from being just even outside, how
sunlight gives so much more benefit than being locked into a
building for 8 hours. When I worked in as a nurse, I
wouldn't see the sun the entire day.
You'd go in in the dark. You'd leave in the dark and
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people wondered why you're so depressed or have anxiety and
the same thing going to school with these kids.
They'd get up, they'd go to daycare, they'd be having to sit
for 8 hours a day, they're not getting as much sunlight as they
need or getting as much activityas they need.
So being a nurse and seeing thatthere are other ways to treat
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people instead of just here, take this pill for anxiety,
here, take this pill, there are other options.
So I want to give people who areseeking other options those
other ways. I'm still digging into it.
I'm still fairly new into building this website.
Anybody who's built a website and built a brand knows this
does take time, but eventually I'd like to become a certified
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coach and helping people find their Wellness as a registered
nurse. I love that.
Thank you for giving us a littlepreview of what where your brand
is heading to this. Is where we're going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I and I love it when people
develop this personal brand. I've seen this with a lot of RV
Queens, like throughout the RV queen circles, they know they
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want to start a personal brand and similar to you, explore all
these different avenues and like, eventually they find the
path and are able to hone in on,OK, this, this kind of like
encapsulate everything that I'vecome from and my personality and
my thoughts. And here's what I want to say.
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And now here's my personal brand, which I think is an
extremely important thing to have just as a professional
moving into the next decade, I think.
Everyone should have it and we're fortunate to be travelling
and able and like digital nomadsand we have like kind of the
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time and space to explore these things and and like hone in on
The Voice that we want to put out there into the world.
So I love that you've kind of combined all these different
experiences in your life to develop Wandering past limits.
So I I do want to hear can you tell a difference in your own
mental health from the time you started RV life until now?
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Yes so I suffered from extreme anxiety, anxiety and panic
attacks and that was hard not I didn't even realize how bad it
was until we started our RV Traveling and finding different
ways to deal with anxiety has been a huge thing for me.
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Problems with like OCD and checking everything.
I couldn't sleep at night because my brain was always just
what if this happens, what if this happens and being on the
road. It wasn't an overnight change
either. It was a slowly trying to
realize what is going on and thedifferent aspects that I can use
to calm my mind, calm my body. What it came down to, honestly,
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for me was meditation. Once I started meditating on a
regular basis, my body just calmed down.
And then also not being in a state of constant stress.
Believe your husband's a nurse, he can.
He can relate to this. But working in the hospital was
a constant stressor. You were constantly moving, you
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were constantly busy. Everything was happening all the
time. There's emergencies.
The burnout is real. And it became so stressful that
I couldn't let it go. It took me a year of being on
the road to just really decompress and find a space
where I felt safe, where I felt OK to just relax and I wasn't on
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this constant edge all the time that.
Story is so relatable with so many people I've met on the
road. I think a lot of us especially
like what I've come to call likehigh achieving women where, you
know, we've always, I feel like from the age of like, you know,
late teens, always been working.And then we went to college and
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you know, like excelled and thenwe had a job and we had a career
and it was, it's just like chronic stress for like over a
decade in your life. And this, this is was my
experience. This was my husband's
experience, other people we've met on the road, a lot of women
in the RV queen circles. It's like there's just, there
was just this constant non-stop pushing, which is literally
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chronic stress. And I think our parents probably
lived through it to some point growing up.
But it's like so apparent to me,people living kind of the more
traditional American life where it's like 2, both parents have
to work in the household and thekids are going to school.
It's like they're running around.
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It's like non-stop. And it throws your body out of
whack in ways that's like you don't even understand when
you're in the middle of it. You can't really recognize, you
know what I mean? Like you can't recognize that
you're just like constantly stressed out about something
until you get out in nature. Like everything that your brain
is about. It's like and resonates with me
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so much because it's like you get out of nature, you give
yourself time to rest and like let down and to have moments,
you know, meditation for me, it's like yoga, you know, like
just figure out how to like regulate yourself so you're not
having that constant stress and anxiety.
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It's huge. That's like the number one thing
about this lifestyle that I think has made an impact clearly
for you and your family. But like, for a lot of us, that
would be down the road just likethis, pulling back the curtain
of whoa, this constant stress, It doesn't have to be that way,
you know, There is another way to live.
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Yes, exactly. Travel has been a huge part of
what has changed our family dynamic.
We used to be running constantly.
It was go to work, go to outdooractivities, go run around.
It got to a point where I was sobusy I would only see my kids 10
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minutes a day, if that. You had the weekends with them
and it was cleaning and getting all this other stuff done.
It was just constant motion. So being able to travel has been
huge for our family and bringingus together close into a close
knit bond where we can actually communicate with each other.
We have better communication skills and that is something
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that I am currently trying to help others find in their family
dynamics or just in their own over in their own general
Wellness. So while I'm working on getting
my certified nurse coaching, I currently have my website open
(25:59):
for consultations and travel. If you have any questions about
travel or outdoor Wellness or anything like that, you can find
me on my website and set up a consultation where I'd be more
than happy to break down everything that I know about
travel, where to go, great places to go, good hikes for
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kids, anything that I can help you with.
So that's currently what my website is up and running.
And then eventually as I keep building and to get the
certification, I will open it upfor more Wellness as a
registered nurse. I love that.
I think that's going to help so many people.
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So girl, I just love everything you're about.
Thank you. Get off the meds, get back to
nature, do some travel, get the family unit, you know, working
and communicating together. It's such good stuff.
OK, so go ahead and share with everyone.
You kind of already talked aboutyour website.
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Share with us where people can connect with you online.
And then I'll ask you my last couple questions here.
So you can find me at Wandering Past Limits.
I have a YouTube channel that focuses on different places that
we've traveled to. A lot of great hikes, especially
for kids. Normally when we go hiking we
take our kids with. So if you're looking for a great
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location to that is kid friendly, head over to my webs
to my YouTube channel. You can also head over to my
website, Wandering Past Limits, where I do have multiple
different blogs up that focus onnature, health, Wellness.
I'm also adding travel itineraries.
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My recent one is about Big Bend.So if you're interested in
finding all the good spots at Big Bend, how to get there, what
to do, head over to my website. You can also find me on social
media Wandering past Limits. Perfect, and we will link
everything in show in the show notes for all you listeners.
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Just quickly Scroll down and tapBoom, we'll be on our website.
All right, to end, here we go. This season of the podcast, I've
been ending with these one in one questions where I ask a
question, you answer, I'll answer.
It's just kind of fun and conversational.
So my first question today is, what is your most memorable
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outdoor adventure that you've had with your family?
Oh, most memorable would probably be Hawaii.
We took a family cruise to Hawaii.
If you're looking for a Hawaii trip on a budget, I highly
recommend taking a cruise to Hawaii.
We went over Christmas. It was probably one of our most
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memorable experiences as a family.
We did a lot of hiking at the national parks.
My tip, if you do take a cruise to Hawaii, rent a car instead of
doing any of the excursion packages.
Rent a car. Travel the islands on your own.
It's a great way to see everything.
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It's cheaper than the excursionsand one of the places that we
went to gave us boogie boards and all sorts of beach beach
equipment free of charge. We got to rent it from them when
we took the kids boogie boardingout in Maui.
Hands down best family experience.
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Best outdoor experience that would be mine.
That's awesome. Oh my gosh.
Well, mine isn't quite Hawaii level, but this past year we did
a big loop out West in 2024 and one of the places that we really
liked even like we did all the national parks and Zion and
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Grand Canyon and all that stuff.But in Utah, we hit up this
place right outside of Hurricane, UT, which is like
close to Zion and Saint George and all this stuff.
And there's a State Park there called Sand Hollow State Park.
And we splurged on AI think it'sis that a UTV or an ATVI, can't
(30:16):
remember which. Basically like a little dune
buggy thing for the afternoon. And that State Park was so epic.
I felt like it should be a National Park.
Like there's so many different terrains.
You have the dunes that you can drive through, and then there's
like these crazy red rock formations that the kids like
climbed and explored. It's just insanely beautiful and
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super fun and not very busy. It was amazing so.
Yeah, San Hallow is one of my favorite state parks.
We've been there twice now. Oh really?
It's so. Fun, yes.
And and no one, I mean, I think it's because there's so much
natural beauty in that area. Everyone's like, yeah, whatever,
San Paulo State Park. But for, you know, us
(31:02):
Midwesterners, we just could notget enough of the terrain so.
Loved it. Yeah, yeah.
OK. My last question for you is
this. What is a book you're reading
these days that you're really into?
I have been listening to an audio book about becoming
supernatural. Oh, I love it.
(31:23):
It's a meditation book, but it'sreally interesting about trying.
It's like Manifest Destiny. How to manifest your destiny?
Yeah. Is that by Gabby?
Bernstein. I know she has a lot of books
like that. No, this it's a Joe Dispenza.
Oh yeah, he's awesome. His meditations are like next
(31:46):
level, yeah. So I've been listening to that.
It's been very interesting. They're very thought provoking.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm going to have to look
that one up now. Well, mine is like very shallow
compared to that. I found I tend to find these
books that I really like from laundry room, you know, at
(32:07):
campgrounds, how people just like leave books and take a book
and leave a book kind of thing. I found this one.
It's it's about this woman who works in tech and she kind of
like happens upon or I should say she's gifted a sourdough
starter. I actually have it right here
because I knew I couldn't remember the title of it
(32:28):
Sourdough or Lois and her adventures in the underground
market. For those watching on Spotify or
YouTube, there's the cover. And I think I like it so much
because she, the main character,works this like really techy,
nerdy job and her life is very sterile.
(32:50):
Like her. She works so much that her
apartment is just basically a shell of a home.
And then she happens upon learning how to bake bread and
becoming like just much more in touch with, you know, natural
life away from technology. And you know, as we've discussed
(33:11):
in this conversation, that's kind of like progression we've
all been on over the past few years here.
Let's go from like this very cerebral, like rushed, I would
say like sterile life to whoa, let's just get into nature and
back to like grounding ourselvesso.
(33:32):
Less is. More, Yes, so true.
All righty Kayla, that's a wrap for today.
Thank you so much for inspiring us all, for being on the show
today, for sharing your stories.I really enjoyed this
conversation and even just getting to know you more.
It's always fun. Thank you so much for having me,
this has been great. Thank you so much for tuning in
to today's episode and for beingpart of the RV Queens community.
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