September 9, 2025 • 51 mins
Imagine healing after a sports injury just like you did when you were in your 20s. How about getting the benefits of expensive stem cell treatments without the injections and the huge expense? Topical stem cell therapy offers a non-invasive alternative to traditional stem cell treatments, minimizing risks associated with injections. Dr. Tommy Rhee is a pioneer in regenerative medicine and promotes non-invasive stem cell therapy. He developed RheeGen, which is a safer stem cell alternative that doesn’t use live cells or invasive procedures. His expertise spans many years. He has treated pro athletes for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes, and even the U.S. Navy. His latest book, The Future of Regenerative Medicine: Unlocking the Potential of Topical Stem Cell Therapy talks about how topical stem cell applications are reshaping healing and longevity. Dr. Rhee has been a practicing chiropractor since 2006 and served as the official team chiropractor of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for three years. Dr. Rhee has pioneered and was the first Master Provider of ART or Active Release Techniques in 2008, the first to bring Exercise with Oxygen Therapy or EWOT in 2012, WholeBody Cryotherapy in 2015, PiezoWave, Shockwave therapy in 2016, and CryoFox in 2018. All of these regenerative techniques can benefit women as well as men. Dr. Rhee covers it all and describes how topical stem cell therapy works and why it is a great way to heal and regenerate on this episode of Women Road Warriors with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Tuccaro.
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Stem cell therapy is all therage today, but there's still a great
deal of confusion about it.
What many people may not knowis to reap the benefits of this regenerative
treatment, invasive injectionsare not necessary.
Dr. Tommy Rhee is a pioneer inregenerative medicine and promotes
non invasive stem cell therapy.
His expertise spans many years.
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He's treated pro athletes likethe Tampa Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes,
and even the U.S. navy.
His latest book, the Future ofRegenerative Unlocking the Potential
of Topical Stem Cell Therapy,talks about how topical stem cell
applications are reshapinghealing and longevity.
Dr. Rhee has been a practicingchiropractor since 2006 and served
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as the official teamchiropractor of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
for three years.
He developed Regen, which is asafer stem cell alternative that
doesn't use live cells orinvasive procedures.
Dr. Re has pioneered and wasthe first master provider of art
or active release techniquesin 2008, the first to bring exercise
with oxygen therapy or EWAT in2012, or whole body cryotherapy in
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2015, piezo shockwave therapyin 2016, and CryoFox in 2018.
All of these regenerativetechniques can benefit women as well
as men.
And Kathy and I were extremelyinterested, so we invited Dr. Rhee
on the show.
We definitely want to knowwhat all of this is.
Welcome, Dr. Ry.
Thank you for being with us.
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Thank you very much.
I really appreciate thisopportunity to talk to you and your
audience.
Yeah, this is great.
Yes, absolutely.
Oh my gosh.
Dr. Rhee, you are anextraordinaire in the field of regenerative
medicine and you cover a lotof areas.
If you could maybe give us abrief background about yourself and
what drew you to thesetherapies that I personally have
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never heard of?
Yeah, so I started off, youknow, I'm a sports chiropractor,
so I started at the UCLA andworking with those top elite collegiate
athletes.
And as they evolve intoprofessional type of athletes, you
see their off season trainingand on season training and you see
how they Recuperate or howthey protect, protect themselves
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for like prehab stuff.
So as you see these athletesgo into that world of preventative
and just really how to reallytake care of themselves, you get
introduced into thisregenerative world.
So I was first involved withthis regenerative world back in 2007,
six around there.
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And proto therapy was thecurrent stuff that was out there,
which is basically they injectlike if you had like a injury in
your elbow, they'll injectthis, is this saline slash sugar
water into your body, intothat damaged area, and your body
will act as if that's like an antigen.
It'll create like an antibodyand creates like scar tissue or rebuilding
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material.
So that's a prolotherapy world.
Then evolved to what they callthe prp.
We heard of that.
And then now it goes into theworld stem cell, where they take
it from your own body andthey, they take out the thing called
the mesocoma stem cells, andthen they inject that damaged tissue.
And then now you get thetissue from a donor site from the
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umbilical core calledWharton's Jelly, and you take out
the mesocoma stem cells andthen you inject the damaged tissue
again.
And.
And now it's into the world oftopical application with the same
donor site from the umbilicalcord or Worden's Jelly.
And it's a topical applicationthat has a transdermal agent, pulls
it through the three layers ofskin into the damaged tissue.
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So now you'll have that kindof like, that risk factor of like
injections.
Right.
For infection, downtime, acompromised tissue you may damage
and more importantly, the cost.
So that's, that's the, that'sthe world that I, I got into here.
Pretty amazing stuff.
And yeah, anytime you haveinjections and so forth.
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Well, I would imagine withstem cell injections, it.
Does it really stay at theinjection site or does it affect
the entire body?
Yeah, so there's, there's,there's a primary and a secondary.
Right.
So you, you, when you injector when you apply any type of regenerative
properties in the area, thereare vessels there that it will actually
get into the vessels of venousor the arterial fl systemically go
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through the body in additionto target the existing tissue that
you're trying to heal.
So yeah, it does kind of both.
And stem cell injections,gosh, they're pretty expensive.
I mean, you can spendthousands and thousands of dollars,
right?
Yeah, I mean, I think thegoing rate now is between 4,500 to
$15,000 per injection site.
Oh my goodness.
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Yeah, it's very expensivebecause I mean.
Yeah, you think about the, theexpenses of the actual, I mean the
material itself, you know, is costly.
Then you talk about the actualprovider and then you have to safe
room and you have to do a lotof prep and then it's just, you know,
one after the other, like expenses.
You have to have to apply ontothat expense.
Whereas if you do regen, it'sjust a topical application that you
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can apply at home.
And what is the typicalexpense associated with the topical
therapy?
Yeah, so typical retail priceof regen is approximately $1,000,
so.
Oh, that's a big difference.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Now if somebody wanted to havewhole body benefits, would they have
to apply that everywhere orhow would that work with a topical
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stem cell?
Yeah, so I'm a sports med guy,so I stay specifically to an injured
site.
But now they're.
So the current procedure for asystemic protocol for, let's say
you're dealing with, maybethey want to, they want to try to
treat like a systemic issue.
You may have like, like maybean autoimmune issue or some type
of like, you know, maybe ananti aging protocol.
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They'll do like an IVinjection diluted with saline and
then it will get injected toyour venous system.
And then the neat thing aboutthis is that there's different kind
of vehicles for the systemic world.
So the mine is just localizedwith some like, maybe like some secondary.
They'll go to the systemic system.
But where you see like thewhole body kind of application, you'll
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do the IBM.
So there's another process outthere that, that's coming up right
now.
It's called a nasal spray.
You can, you know, you know,basically insert the applicator through
your nose and inhale it.
So the reason why they do thatis because no matter if you're taking
either the nasal or the ib,when it goes to your system, it collects
in your lungs for 24 to 48 hours.
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So it sits there.
Then after that it startsactually like going back into the
system and you know, takingcare of all the cells.
Interesting.
Okay, well, I know thatthey've done what vaccines.
They've looked at the nasalapplication for those, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Remember, so the top thing,when you do a nasal spray, if you
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have asthma, you know, those,those are the things you have to
be concerned about if you do anasal spray because they may irritate
capillaries in your lungs.
So do you want to take theother option, which is the IV Again,
you know, talk to yourprovider and then find out the best
pathway for that systemictreatment protocol.
For those who may not befamiliar, what do stem cells do for
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us?
Okay, so stem cell is kind ofunique in its definition.
Like, stem cell is.
What it does is it's like the root.
It's like the.
The starter of all your cells.
It helps you make other cells,and it's like, it.
It kind of creates like, atemplate or a beginning site to start
up and work.
Right.
So we have, like, all types ofstem cells, from embryonic stem cells
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to adult stem cells tomesocoma stem cells.
There's all kinds of stemcells out there, and some of these
are defined by its use, right?
So you look at, like, theycall a totipotent stem cell, where
it can make.
It can make a lot of otherstem cells.
Then we look at the thingscalled a potent pluripotent stem
cell, where you have a limitedamount of, like, cells they can go.
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Go into.
And then you got a uni stemcell when it turns into one cell
only.
So it varies, but basically,it's like the.
It's like a Kickstarter or thestarting template for your body to
reproduce or regenerate.
You know, it never ceases toamaze me how the miracle of the human
body, it is like, it's justunbelievable how the depth of, you
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know, of how we function, andwe don't.
We take it for granted.
We don't even realize.
We don't most.
You know, you don't.
You don't care.
But when you start listeningto someone like yourself, it's like,
wow.
Like, holy, man.
Yeah.
And, yeah.
What you're doing isabsolutely phenomenal.
And I have one question, goingback to your topical cream, would
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that help?
Like, my daughter has reallybad plantar fasciitis.
Would that help with thattopical cream?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Perfect example.
So plantar fasciitis is thatfascia on the bottom part of your
foot.
So when you have, like, theselittle muscles in the bottom of these
intrinsic muscles that helpyour foot kind of like, you know,
move, and they call like, a.
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Like a plantar flexion kind ofkind of motion, you start, like,
how would you say, like, stopusing the muscle.
And depending on otherstructures, like the fascia, and
when you don't have strongmuscles, it depends on keeping your
foot or your arch, you know, up.
It compromises the fascia.
So when you start compromisingthe fascia, you get these micro traumas
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when you get these microtrauma in your fascia.
Well, the first thing when yousee your trauma is inflammatory world.
That's why you hear the worditis, Right.
So then once you start gettingthe inflamma, you know, inflammation
in the area, now you're havingthe cascade of more occupying, like
fluid inflammation in additionto micro trauma.
And that's why you have that,that pain sensitive part of the foot
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right at the arch and close tothe forefoot.
So regen will help quickly generate.
So the thing with regen and,and then regenerative medicine, the
most important thing is thatyou're trying to see how you can
be young again.
And that tissue damage whenyou're younger heals faster.
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But when you get older, wecan't heal faster as we, as if we
were like in our 20s or teens.
So we're looking for a fasterpattern of healing.
Because when you look at thefascia of the foot, you're constantly
walking, you're constantlyusing it.
So if I heal faster, then Ican get to walk up the next day and
be able to walk.
But because we're aged, we'rehave, we're having to like, have
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more time to recover, like twoor three days.
And then if you keep on doingmore trauma over and over walking,
well, you beat up that areaand you're making it that little
micro trauma into almost amacro trauma where you're, you're
getting more of the fasciainvolved with it.
So that's what regenerativemedicine is.
And when you look at someonelike the 40 plus, you just want to
quickly regenerate ourselvesback to normal because it's all about,
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you know, when you work out,when you do any type of movement,
you do like a little microtrauma and you give yourself some
time to rest and itregenerates and then you're back
to square one again.
When you have a constant likeabuse, like walking or something
like that, well, it's hard tore, you know, rest it when you're
actually like using it.
So we need a faster recoveryand that is used by this stem cell
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regenerative medicine.
Oh, so the stem cell therapy,does it return the area that it's
treating to a much younger state?
Pretty much, not so much ayounger state.
It just helps, helps yourecover faster.
For instance, you know, if youhave like a cut on your skin, you
know, like a distal area likedown on the shins.
Well, when you were younger,that thing would heal within like
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a week or two.
As we get older, it takesweeks and weeks you know, poor circulation.
We don't have those growth factors.
We just have a lot of, like,our cells that we're able to, like,
heal faster.
Well, we're starting to limitour cells to recover or regenerate.
So that's why you needsomething that has the ability to
take that tissue that'sprobably, like, dormant, wake it
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up, and then regenerate faster.
That would be a gutsend for somany people, because chronic pain
seems to be a pandemic today.
I mean, everybody seems tohave issues with all of that.
Just watch any of thecommercials out there.
You know.
You know what?
I feel that the rise of, like,that chronic pain, because everybody
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knows how important activityand exercise is after 40 years old.
So exercise is a huge, like.
Like a.
How would you say, like apreventative type of medicine or
movement to avoid, like,cardiovascular diseases, diabetes.
The problem is, again, is thatwhen you start doing, like, an exercise,
let's say you're doing a walk,like an hour walk.
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Well, because of therepetitive movement, you'll start
getting those injuries now.
You.
You will break down tissues ofmuscle and tendon, and our own body
recycles and rebuilds.
Well, as we age, we don't havethose little adult stem cells or
those little cells that canregenerate our damaged tissue to
grow big, bigger, better, and stronger.
So now we're in that.
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The repetitive movement ofinjury, injury, injury, micro trauma,
where it becomes now a chronic situation.
So either you rest for a longperiod of time to recover, or you
speed up the healing process,and again, you go back into regenerative
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You've probably heard all thebuzz about stem cell therapy, but
here's the don't need invasiveinjections to get the benefits.
Dr. Tommy Rhee, a pioneer inregenerative medicine, has treated
everyone from the Tampa BayBuccaneers, the UCLA women's soccer
team to the U.S. navy.
And he's showing us how noninvasive topical stem cell therapy
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is reshaping healing and longevity.
His new book, the Future ofRegenerative Unlocking the Potential
of Topical Stem Cell Therapy,explains why this breakthrough could
change the way we recover andstay strong.
Dr. Ry created regen, atopical stem cell therapy.
Stick around.
Dr. Ry is here to tell us moreabout how everything works.
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Dr. Ry stem cell therapy makesa lot of sense in terms of injury
and repetitive motion andthings that people do every day.
It's a, and maintain mobilityand to stay young.
Actually, I can't help butwonder with all the technology that
we have if people aren't goingto be dealing with more of these
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needs earlier.
Because you've got incidentsof what they call tech neck with
teenagers.
Yeah, absolutely.
They're leaning forward,they're looking down all the time,
they're texting, they'relooking at their device.
And that's not where we'resupposed to have our necks.
No.
You know.
Yeah.
Everything that comes tobiomechanics, when you change your
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biomechanics because of, youknow, posture or that mechanical
change in the chronic, you'regoing to stress out some ligaments
and then, you know, the worstcase scenario is when you actually
get that formation of that,like that, that, that forward head
movement.
And then the worst scenario isthat when you're stuck in that position.
So absolutely you need tocorrect that movement as much as
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possible.
And when you get to thatdamaged component of those ligaments,
well, you have to figure outhow to heal that.
So you want to just get eithermore rest to recover from that injury
or speed up the healing process.
What about like I have a lotas a heavy equipment operator, we
have a lot of shoulderinjuries and wood and the healing.
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A lot of us are over, youknow, 50 and I get my, my one co
worker had a shoulderreplacement on both shoulders and
she was off for almost three years.
Yeah.
Now to this day she, she'slimited in what she can do.
Would, what would regen,Would, would that.
Be assist her at all?
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Yeah.
So this was, this was thewonderful thing about a topical regenerative
medicine cream, Regen.
This is what's great about it.
There's no downtime.
You can continue your activitywhile applying Regen.
So Regen is a 30 day application.
And then we recommend, youknow, you can still do your activity
because it was really meantfor like professional athletes during
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the season.
So when you think about like,you know, an injection, let's say
you do stem cell therapy priorto, you know, you're doing surgery,
right.
So you want to do the mostconservative approach.
So back then it wasinjectables of the stem cell.
So the reason, the reason whyyou have downtime, because you have
a primary injury site, let'ssay it's like one of your rotator
cuff muscles in your shoulder.
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Well, when, if you hit, in a,if you hit the area with a needle
and you're going throughtissue, well, you're compromising
another spot.
So now you have a primary andsecondary injury spot.
Now you're recovering from twosites and that's why you need downtime
for the secondary injecting sites.
So now because of lack ofmovement, you might, you know, start
getting into a little bit amore adhesion buildup and then it
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kind of puts in a cascade.
Like, you know, it's just notfaring that well because you're immobilizing
that joint because you have torecover from the injury site of the
needle.
So but with a topical, youwant to continue on moving, you want
to continue on doing your same activity.
And that will penetratethrough the skin to the damaged tissue
over the 30 day period and ityields as much as the injectables.
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Now let me, let me tell youwhy I did, why I moved into the topical
world.
So as my athletes aretypically going through their season,
one of the complaints theyhad, they couldn't do these stem
cell therapy injections duringthe season because of the downtime.
So when you have downtime withpro athletes, like missing weeks,
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well, it, you're playing withtheir money, right?
So it's basically you miss acouple games, it's in their contract,
you get paid per game or something.
They don't want that inaddition to some other factors like
contracts or they don't wantto report injuries.
So what these guys would do,you know, to avoid that kind of like
that pain, they would do thatpain med stuff.
You know, you heard about theinjections and all that other Things
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that prevent them to feelwhat's going on down there in their
ankle, whatever problem they have.
So with the topicalapplication I started thinking that's
non invasive.
It can deliver the same paininformation, the stem cells down
into the tissue and thencontinue play.
So I had a quarterback thatwas going through a bad Achilles
tendon and he kept on, youknow, doing the off season protocol.
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Like with all athletes, theygo through a stem cell injection
protocol off season becausethey don't have to work out or do
anything.
So they have the ability to dosome rest time during that period.
But during the season, thisquarterback, his Achilles tendon
wasn't healing correctly.
So he came up to me, we talkedabout it and we started doing regen
with him, that topical application.
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So he was the one that helpedme tune up, formulated change, the
kind of, the overall feelingof it.
And because of him and himusing regen during the season, he
was able to play the wholeseason injury free.
It healed and moreimportantly, since he was at the
last year contract, it was notlike a negotiating tool, like, hey,
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you know, I can't give youthat much money because of, you know,
your injury here.
So that helps me out in that world.
So that's how it was first developed.
And I started thinking, well,if it works for that top athlete
doing a high velocity trauma,well definitely going to help out
civilians.
So that's why it went intothis world.
Then it went into things oflike, you know, the 40 plus that
we have, we still want to beactive, we still want to play pickleball
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activity at the later age, butwe just need something to speed our
healing process.
So that's how it transitionedto that.
So that's why I'm excitedabout regen for the topical aspect
is that now you can haveanybody use it without that invasive
world and no downtime.
So it eliminates pain andincreases mobility.
That would be just a lifechanger for people.
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Imagine that that footballplayer, if you didn't have that,
the future would have notturned out the way it did, right?
No, especially, I mean westill talk about it.
He's still, he's still a diehard person.
I mean, you know, footballplayers will always be, they always
go through injuries.
So he goes, oh, I got this, Igot that.
He goes, okay.
So yeah, absolutely.
But what I love about regionis that now because, you know, it's
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like, you know, like sometimeswhen you think about medicine and
where it, you see where it'sgoing down and then I, I wouldn't
say the trust value but youalways have to question.
You want a second third opinion.
Well, the great thing aboutour technology, you know, like we
talked about, is that there'sso much information out there.
So much, you know, placeswhere you get like good data points
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and then figure out whatprotocol, maybe it fits for you and
maybe it doesn't.
Or maybe there's somethingunique out there.
Well, it gives the patientability to start like, you know,
like really commanding of whatyou know is maybe a possibility that
it's out of the doctor's hands.
So that's what's fun aboutthis, is that, you know, regen or
stem cell therapy is so deepbut so proven out there that it's
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unique in its own world oflike, where to go with this and where's
the future See in this.
And then if you can actuallyhave it in the patient's hand and
then have an idea where thiscan be applied, well, that's where
the topical world gets involved.
Now it's in the patient's hand.
Hey, I've got this elbow pain.
It's tennis elbow.
I've been diagnosed.
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Let me apply it on here.
And then, you know, they havemore of a control of the protocol
and the treatment.
So the way this is designed,the molecules are small enough to
penetrate all of the layers.
Because I know that that'sbeen a challenge.
The molecules have to be small enough.
Yeah.
So there is an agent in theregen formula that helps penetrate
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or, you know, permeate throughthe three layer skin.
And that is called dmso.
And we've all known about DMSOin the past.
So that's the vehicle that weuse to get those small molecules
through the three layers of skin.
For those who aren't familiarwith dmso, what is that?
So it's.
They call it dimethyl sulfoxide.
It's a, it's a solvent.
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It's a natural solvent, comesfrom tree bark.
It was discovered probablyback in the early 1900s.
And where I, I heard moreabout it is when you're, when I was
younger, back in 1970s andstuff like that, you would have that
unique smell with people like,what is that smell?
And it was the one of thesulfur components of the MSO that
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people with arthritis wouldrub on their knees or their elbows,
and it would be fantastic for arthritis.
But the interesting thing isit's such a good transdermal application
that when you apply it on yourskin, right away you taste the sulfur
and you smell it very fastthrough your body, so it penetrates
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Very fast through your skin.
It's a lubricant.
I have neck issues and Iactually have used DMSL in the past
so I'm familiar with it.
Really?
Uh huh.
Did it work?
It did.
I don't know why I quit usingit, but I think I've tried a lot
of different things becausecertainly working at a computer all
the time doesn't help thesituation with my neck.
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I would imagine that regenwould really maybe alleviate some
of the pain.
Now can it actually rejuvenatesay discs that have big degenerated
in your skeletal structure or.
Okay, so here's the thing withwhen it comes to like disc issue,
you know, it's deep in theactual like the low back or your
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neck area.
And you know you have topenetrate through a lot of like tissue
like your muscle and fasciaand stuff like that.
So depending on the severityof your disc issue, if you have a
like there's like certaingrades of how bad things are.
So you know, grade one is notas severe as grade three.
So when you look at somethingthat not that severe, you know, let's
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say you have a little bit ofjoint space loss because the disc
has gone a little bit, youknow, in its, in its age process.
Now regen will help but thething is that just like if you were
in an injectable role for stemcell, it may be one of those things
that it's not going to be aone injection.
It may be a whole year of likeevery three month injection.
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So it all depends on theseverity of that gen disc.
So just like you know they doinjection, we kind of compare that
with regen.
So if you have a severe like agrade three disc, what they call
ddd, like disc degenerativedisease, then we would say if like
you need like at least threeprotocol or three treatment or three
kits of regen throughout thatyear period to help that tissue generate.
(27:08):
Okay, so there is hope forpeople with degenerative disc disease
because that can come on at avery young age too.
Oh, now going back to thattechno neck.
Absolutely.
Our neck, low back, middleback, we have this a curve, a natural
curve and they call it likeeither like a thordotic or a cave
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body.
It's like if you look atyourself in sideways position, it
looks like an S. Right now wealways think that the disc are shock
absorbers, but naturally it'sfor mobility, we want motion.
So like our cervical havethese seven segments of the spine
and then lumbar has five andthe middle of our back called thoracic,
have 12.
Well, the disc in between,like all these vertebrae, bones.
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Well, the disc.
We look at that in our worldas mobility.
You want to keep the curve.
So it acts as one big spring,just like a slinky, right?
So when you think aboutwalking, if you have a curve from
your cervical, your neck,thoracic, your mid back and your
lumbar, low back, and you'redoing any kind of compression in
your body by walking, itsprings back and forth, you know,
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not disc by disc, but themobility of all the segments act
as one spring.
But when you have like astraight neck or a straight lumbar
and you lose the curve, well,now you're playing havoc on the disc,
where the disc starts bulgingout, herniating out.
And you don't want that.
You want to keep that natural curve.
So posture, very important.
That techno neck, you saidthat's not good because then you
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have a straight neck and then,then all of a sudden the disc starts
invasively going outwards, youknow, bulging and herniate now.
And then, now you're going onthat cascade of like bulging herniation
and go to neuropathy.
Then, you know, all the orthosin that world say, all right, you
need a dissected melaniectomyto alleviate the nerve pain.
Then you go down the cascadeof all, and now you're going down
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the rehab world.
So, yeah, you see howeverything starts with, number one,
poor posture, and then numbertwo, you know your biomechanics and
you know how to correct andget somebody to identify that.
So regen has the ability toregenerate, but when it comes to
posture, that's a wholemechanism of self discipline there.
So be all, but you understandthat part.
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So my mother was correct whenshe said, sit up straight.
Oh, 100%.
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Welcome back to women roadwarriors with Shelly Johnson and
Kathy Tucaro.
Let's talk about one of thehottest topics in health today, stem
cell therapy.
Most people think it meansneedles and expensive invasive procedures,
but Dr. Tommy Rhee is changingall of that.
(30:25):
He's a pioneer in regenerativemedicine who's worked with the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes,and even the U.S. navy.
His new book, the Future ofRegenerative Medicine Unlocking the
Potential of Topical Stem CellTherapy reveals how non invasive
topical applications like hisown creation, Regen are helping athletes
and everyday people healfaster, stay mobile longer and boost
(30:49):
their quality of life with no downtime.
Stay tuned.
Dr. Ry is explaining how allof this works.
It's really fascinating.
Dr. Ry.
In our last segment, wementioned posture as being super
important.
So self discipline's part ofkeeping our mobility.
Along with the advantages ofstem cell therapy like you have.
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Here's something funny about,you know, you always hear like, you
know, females are more proneto like neck herniations than males.
You know, I think the one ofthe common threads that, that, that's
really like pronounced ishair, because majority of females
have longer hair than males.
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So when you think about hair,you think about, you know, the weight
of the hair.
And then you apply water tothat hair.
You're tech, maybe like almosta half a pound to a pound of extra
weight.
You're playing, you'reapplying on that neck area with the
hair.
So that's another thing thatyou have to be cognizant of, like
how to keep that posturebecause if you have the good posture,
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you can handle that weight,extra weight of that hair and being
wet.
But if you're out of position,that extra pressure, well, it's applied
to your discs now, so that'swhy it'll go down that pathway.
Makes sense.
You don't think about howheavy hair is, especially when you.
Heavy.
Yeah.
People, my cousin, oh my God,she, her, she had hair down to her
(32:14):
bottom and it was so thick andheavy and it was just, it gave her
a headache.
She ended up having to cut it.
Because it was just too much.
Yeah.
It's nice when you're younger,you know, but when you get older,
you know how that goes.
Especially when the hair getswet, then you're looking at, whoa,
that's a lot of weight.
It's a lot of work.
(32:34):
Yeah.
I think as women and getbusier in their adult lives, they're
like, I don't want to dealwith this all the time.
Unless you have a hairdresserthat you can take with you.
And most people don't.
Dr. Rhee, you also have beeninvolved with oxygen therapy, whole
body cryotherapy, PISA waveshockwave therapy.
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What are all those things?
So because of injuredathletes, you want to speed up the
healing process and that, youknow, besides, you know, regenerative
medicine that's includes oxygen.
So when you look at oxygen inits, in its form, you want to include
it into like the healingprocess, right?
So just like if you have likea cut, you know how you have a cut
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in your hand, you, you knowthe old let the air out, it heal
faster.
Well, it's the same principle.
You want more oxygen, you wantmore the healing properties to the
damaged tissue.
So we have things like, youknow, a hyperbaric chamber.
It has higher pressure so itcan diffuse to the cell membrane
to get to that cell to heal faster.
And then there's another thingcalled the ewot, which is like exercise
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with oxygen therapy.
So the hyperbaric chamber doesmore of a, like a passive from the,
the gradient being strongeroutside than inside the cell membrane.
So the oxygen molecule getspushed through the membrane going
to the cell.
With ewt, it's almost theopposite, draws it in because you're
basically doing a high intenseexercise for about eight to 10 minutes
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and you're breathing like 60pounds of, of oxygen and it's forced
into your body.
So you're pulling it inbecause you're at extreme exercise
that you're, you're pushingyour lack threshold higher.
So it gives you the ability togo harder, Stronger because the O2
is consumed at a faster rate.
So again, that's another wayof pulling oxygen through your body.
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Instead of being forced intoit, it's getting drawn into it.
Then I have another devicethat's called a PISA wave.
And then, you know, they callit the old, AKA the shock wave or
something like that.
So it's just basically there'sfluid that gets caught in between
joint space.
So I can't manually getbetween like, let's say the top part
of your ankle.
They call it a telodome.
You can't get in there toflush out that fluid, so you need
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something forcefully get out there.
So we use this high velocitysound wave and the PISA wave to get
in there and push that fluid.
And it's just, it's afocalized right into that joint space
and it pushes that fluid out.
So it gives you like more ofa, more of a fluidity in that joint
so that it won't have thatcompression of the excess fluid inflammation.
So, you know, when you're inthe sports world, you want the latest
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and highest technology you canfind out there to help these athletes
or civilians or anybody thathave to do with like, you know, movement.
You know, our missionstatement here is we treat everybody
like a pro athlete.
So that includes, you know,Weekend warriors, the people that
sit in the office, we treatthem all like an athlete.
You're gonna.
We always look at you as amoving object.
If it's high performance orlow performance, you're still moving.
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So when we look at that, thenwe say, all right, what's the best
equipment for those proathletes or people behind the desk?
That's the equipment.
So we look for those type ofequipments to help you heal faster
and really, like, just get youback to play or, you know, whatever
you're thinking about doingmakes sense.
Well, I imagine people, whenthey're weekend warriors, do some
serious damage if they've beensitting all week and then they decide
(35:49):
to really break it loose.
They come back hobbling andhunched over on Monday.
Yeah.
Hey, you know that.
You know how the old.
What's the old analogy?
Like, I'm young in mind, notin the body.
That's the problem with all of us.
We all think we can still dothings like we're 20 years old.
Sure.
But, you know, mindset reallyis a positive thing.
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Oh, absolutely.
That absolutely is a verypositive thing.
It's just that you just need abody to catch up to the mind, show
some activity.
But, you know, I. I've knownpeople in their 20s who think old,
and it's.
Yeah.
And they're setting themselves up.
So.
Yeah.
You know, I always see thatthe biggest component of majority
(36:33):
of these.
Like these.
You hear the classic disordersor diseases that are coming up more
often, like diabetes andcardiac disease.
One of the components that aremissing is just the simple movement,
exercise.
You got to keep moving.
Your body loves that stress.
And then you just kind oflike, you know, just put yourself
in a little bit of stressfulsituation so you can handle it as
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you go further in life.
We are more sedentary as asociety than we were 50 years ago.
When you think about it, it'sgood to see children when they're
running around outside, whenthe parents say, get out there, because
most of them are in front oftheir video games or their smartphones,
they're sitting.
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Yeah.
It's incredible what's goingon out there.
You hear about the.
Even the curriculum.
The school, like, restrictingPE classes and.
And they're shortening a lotof these activities to be physical
in class.
So, yeah, it's interestingwhere it's evolving.
Right.
It's not evolving correctly.
I mean, we're not designed to sit.
And I know as a kid, I couldnot sit.
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It's like, I'm done with my work.
I'm going to run around the room.
It's like, Shelly, sit down,you know.
Now, whole body cryotherapy,is that the same thing, like the
cryogenics?
I mean, what is that?
So, so whole body cryotherapy,so you're.
You're basically in thischamber for about two and a half
minutes at below 166 degrees.
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And the object is that.
Yeah, so the object is thatyou want to do what they call a sympathetic
reaction, where you shunt allthe blood from your extremities to
your core and you basically constrict.
So the therapy itself is notduring the actual cryo aspect of
it.
You heard like, like the coldplunge and all that.
And it's the same theory, butin this case it's a lot faster.
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Because the first thing yourbody does in the physiology world,
it's when it feels cold, itwants to warm the area up.
So it does what they callbasal dilation.
So it brings more blood flowto the area.
So your capillaries open upand it allows more of the oxygenated
blood at that, that coretemperature to get to the extremity,
the arm or leg, and then ittries to warm it up.
When it identifies that itcan't warm up, then it does the opposite,
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which is basically close thevessels down, protect the core of
the heart and, you know,organs and shunt all the blood from
the arms and legs to theactual core of the body.
Right.
So with cryo, whole bodycryotherapy, it's so coded.
It bypasses the firstcomponent of it, and it goes right
into vasoconstriction.
It goes right into thesympathetic reaction.
So what the idea is that it'snot so much that you don't want the
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cryo component of it.
You want the secondary.
The.
The result of the sympatheticis the parasympathetic.
When you come out now, youhave to.
The body recognizes we're backto a room temperature.
So it goes back to theparasympathetic, and they so dilates
large vessels on all thevessels, and it opens things up so
then you can quickly flush out.
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So now you have oxygenatedblood going down in this large diameter
of the.
Of the dilation, but also thevenous and arterial flow are opened
up.
So now you're flushing out allthat extra stuff, including metabolic
waste.
So when you have that kind ofinflammatory world, you know, you're
stuck with like a long period.
Like, you know, you alwaysfeel like a little swollen or some
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type of inflammation or something.
Well, that's what the idea isthat you want to flush it out fast.
So that's why you go into the cryo.
And then when you come out ofit five, 10 minutes later, you feel
that flushing feeling of thatwarmth through your whole body.
Well, that's the bodyreturning it to its norm function.
So cold body cryotherapy wasfirst developed by a Japanese rheumatologist
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as that was working withrheumatoid arthritis.
So that was one of hisprotocol because, you know, rheumatoid
arthritis is basically yourbody autoimmune.
It's, it's trying to, youknow, fight itself or attack itself.
So when it comes to rarheumatoid arthritis, some of the
things that you want to getout is that metabolic waste.
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So this Japanese doctor wentinto this world of cryotherapy and
he saw great results aboutpain and getting back to like, you
know, normal function.
So that's how it was first started.
And then athletes took upon torecover faster.
You want to get that metabolicwaste, all that, like that, that
excess bad tissue, you want toget it out that all the free radicals,
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you want to get it out.
And then it moved into theworld of just wellness.
So cryo.
So when you hear about whenpeople and they do like cold plunge.
Cold plunge, that's why theywant you to stay in there a little
longer because your firstcouple minutes is a warming sensation
and then secondary is theconstricting component of it.
So that's the whole body cryotherapy.
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So you're flushing the body of toxins.
Yeah.
Afterwards, not during thetime afterwards.
So you want the aftermath ofthat cryotherapy.
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Welcome back to Women Roadwarriors with Shelly Johnson and
Kathy Tucaro.
Stem cell therapy iseverywhere in the headlines.
(42:16):
But what if you could get thebenefits without the needles?
Dr. Tommy Rhee has beenleading the charge in regenerative
medicine.
He's worked with the Tampa BayBuccaneers, UCLA athletes, and even
the US Navy.
His therapies are unique.
In his new book, the Future ofRegenerative Unlocking the Potential
of Topical Stem Cell Therapy,he reveals how his innovation Regen
(42:39):
is making healing faster,mobility lasting longer and life
better, all without invasive procedures.
He's changing the face of whatgetting older means.
Dr. Ree's been sharing hisgreat insight with Kathy and me.
Dr. Ree, I would imagine withall of the different chemicals in
our world today, there's a lotmore toxicity that maybe people 60,
(43:01):
70 years ago didn't deal with.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I think the primeexample I still like, use, remember,
like, I remember like back inthe 70s, a loaf of bread couldn't
stay longer than a week.
And now you can keep a loaf ofbread for like three weeks on a shelf.
It's kind of scary.
It's like very scary.
Yeah.
(43:21):
What's next?
I mean, there are things outthere that we don't even know we
see.
Look at the ingredients.
Like, look at that go.
What is all this stuff here?
I think the best.
Like, like, you know, if youreally want to know what goes on
as far as, like, is it, is itsafe for you?
Just put a, put a food down onthe ground and see what like insect
or ants or something will eat it.
Do you see it still there?
Nobody's touched it.
Tells you exactly what that's about.
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It's kind of funny because Ihave a severe gluten allergy and
at work I'll toss out the, thegluten free bread.
Even the ravens won't touch it.
Even like the gluten freecrackers, they won't touch it.
Yeah.
It's kind of funny.
Anything but the gluten free.
If insects aren't going to eatsome of that stuff.
Yeah.
Why would I?
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Yeah, yeah.
Because they're nature'scleanup crew.
Yeah.
When you think about it, younever remember.
Remember when Margin wasaround, Margaret?
Oh, yeah.
Do you remember, like,remember it would never melt.
Just never melt.
You stick it out in roomtemperature and never melt.
Whereas butter, we had butter.
I mean basically almost likeback to liquid.
And I remember like ants androaches around my house.
(44:26):
You know, I used to live in abad part of town, but they would
never touch that stuff.
They would just, you can seethem attack everything else, like
butter and stuff.
But not, not that.
Yeah, we need to do somethinking and do some observing what
mother nature is consuming.
And if they won't touch whatwe're eating, maybe we shouldn't
too.
Yeah, Good point.
So, Dr. Ry, where do peoplefind your product?
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Where do they find your book?
Your book really is a greattutorial for people.
I think that there are a lotof different things that you cover
the types of stem cells, celldamage and aging.
Who's a candidate for stemcell therapy?
You explain chromosomes andtelomeres and telomerase and all
of that stuff.
Those are kind of the buildingblocks, aren't they, with our bodies?
(45:10):
Where do people get educatedwith the future of regenerative medicine
Unlocking the potential oftopical stem cell therapy?
And where do they reach out to you?
Okay, well, as far as my book,you can go onto Amazon and just,
you can type in my name, Dr.Thomas Re.
Or you can just do the title,which is the future of Regenerative
(45:31):
medicine Unlocking thePotential of Topical Stem Cell Therapy.
And again.
Yeah, exactly.
So it has the science aspectof it.
It also has a layman'sterminology in there.
So we can all follow along thepath of Jeff and his quest of understanding
about stem cell and topicalstem cell.
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For Regen, you can look upregen.com, which is R-H-E-E-G-E-N.com
and there's a lot ofinformation on there and lot of good
topics.
And then if you have anyquestions, you know, we have a social
media site that goes into anytype of, like, scenarios of a particular
injury or something.
(46:12):
And if you need to get a holdof me there, there should be a little
click there that you can goinfo at Regen.
Just ask me a question andI'll shoot back to you within a couple
hours or days, you know,depending on where I'm at, and then
I'll get your answers.
Excellent.
Well, I would imagine peoplehave different needs and maybe even
reach out to you regardingjust anti aging.
(46:34):
Certainly women are always,we're always being programmed.
You've got to look like you're16 years old, you know.
Yeah.
You know, it doesn't just stop there.
If I think everybody wants tobe 16 years old, I looked at my old
pictures.
Oh, look at those days in the Navy.
Look at that.
Yeah.
What's the perfect age, youknow, if people could go back in
(46:54):
time with the knowledge we have?
Yeah, very good.
What would you want to looklike and feel like?
And wouldn't it be really great?
I mean, do you see that withstem cell therapy that it's going
to essentially prolong ourlives, but also the quality of life?
Yeah.
So there's like two, like, age spans.
There's a, you know, age.
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There's a lifespan and anactive lifespan.
And I know that people want tothink about the aesthetics and how
you look, but I always look athow you feel, you know, that's really
important.
How can you keep going?
Exercise, being active,because activity and exercise is
such a good mental.
How would you say, almost likea therapeutic way of dealing with
(47:36):
other type of mental stress,that physical aspect.
So where I see in the futureis that aesthetically, you know,
it would definitely go there, but.
But it's about the physicalside of it, about allowing yourself
to keep going, keep allowingyourself to play that pickleball,
play with your grandkids, play with.
Be able to keep moving soyou're functioning fine.
And then you're having that,that, that fun feeling of being active
(47:58):
as if you're young.
That's what life's about.
You know, if we don't havequality of life, there really isn't
life.
You want to be able toparticipate in life.
Oh, yeah.
That's the biggest thing to do.
You know, just.
I always say that if you lookat, you know, but that's what the
beat of the office is.
I get to see all ages in theirinjury and what set them off into
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that cascade.
So I'm fortunate to see thefuture about my life and others with
the examples of my patients here.
So it's.
One of the key components is activity.
When you see someone in their90s, 80s, still active.
And one of the key components, exercise.
Keep moving, keep moving.
You know.
You know, in.
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I was nursing for 13 years andI worked four years in orthopedics
and we had at the top hipreplacement in the country in Canada
and knee surgery.
And the thing that was themost noticeable was those that exercised
versus those that didn't intheir recovery, the ones that constantly
(49:03):
exercise, done yoga.
The healing process was almostimmediate, as opposed to those who
never walked, who never didstairs, it would take the length
and time for healing wasalmost double.
Big difference.
Yeah.
You know, and that's why Ialways think about active lifespan.
Being in an 80s, still being active.
You always want to think thatI want the ability to continue walking
(49:27):
and being competitive inwalking, just like as if you're in
20s.
Nothing's.
I can only imagine what itfeels like if I'm in my 70s that
have a difficult time walkingjust a quarter mile.
I mean, that would play mental.
That would be mental, like detrimental.
My whole psychological outlookif I can't apply that kind of like
(49:49):
physical stress on my body.
Sure, yeah.
We don't feel good.
It affects our mental state.
It's everything.
And people deteriorate, theyget depressed, they get discouraged.
It's just a whole bodyreaction when you think about it.
So Dr. Ree.
What is your website again?
It's www.regenR-H-E-E-G-E-N.com and then again
(50:16):
Amazon.
If you look at the FutureRegenerative Medicine at Amazon and
you can see.
My book there, this has beensuper informative.
So interesting.
Oh my goodness.
So interesting.
Thank you very much.
Oh you guys are great.
This is so much fun.
You know I loved it.
Well, thank you Dr. Ray.
We appreciate it very much andthis has been informative for our
listeners.
Yeah, great.
Guys are great, awesome.
(50:38):
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Dr. A.
Thanks so much and both Kathyand I have learned a ton.
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Stem cell therapy is all therage today, but there's still a great
deal of confusion about it.
What many people may not knowis to reap the benefits of this regenerative
treatment, invasive injectionsare not necessary.
Dr. Tommy Rhee is a pioneer inregenerative medicine and promotes
non invasive stem cell therapy.
His expertise spans many years.
(01:05):
He's treated pro athletes likethe Tampa Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes,
and even the U.S. navy.
His latest book, the Future ofRegenerative Unlocking the Potential
of Topical Stem Cell Therapy,talks about how topical stem cell
applications are reshapinghealing and longevity.
Dr. Rhee has been a practicingchiropractor since 2006 and served
(01:26):
as the official teamchiropractor of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
for three years.
He developed Regen, which is asafer stem cell alternative that
doesn't use live cells orinvasive procedures.
Dr. Re has pioneered and wasthe first master provider of art
or active release techniquesin 2008, the first to bring exercise
with oxygen therapy or EWAT in2012, or whole body cryotherapy in
(01:51):
2015, piezo shockwave therapyin 2016, and CryoFox in 2018.
All of these regenerativetechniques can benefit women as well
as men.
And Kathy and I were extremelyinterested, so we invited Dr. Rhee
on the show.
We definitely want to knowwhat all of this is.
Welcome, Dr. Ry.
Thank you for being with us.
(02:13):
Thank you very much.
I really appreciate thisopportunity to talk to you and your
audience.
Yeah, this is great.
Yes, absolutely.
Oh my gosh.
Dr. Rhee, you are anextraordinaire in the field of regenerative
medicine and you cover a lotof areas.
If you could maybe give us abrief background about yourself and
what drew you to thesetherapies that I personally have
(02:36):
never heard of?
Yeah, so I started off, youknow, I'm a sports chiropractor,
so I started at the UCLA andworking with those top elite collegiate
athletes.
And as they evolve intoprofessional type of athletes, you
see their off season trainingand on season training and you see
how they Recuperate or howthey protect, protect themselves
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for like prehab stuff.
So as you see these athletesgo into that world of preventative
and just really how to reallytake care of themselves, you get
introduced into thisregenerative world.
So I was first involved withthis regenerative world back in 2007,
six around there.
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And proto therapy was thecurrent stuff that was out there,
which is basically they injectlike if you had like a injury in
your elbow, they'll injectthis, is this saline slash sugar
water into your body, intothat damaged area, and your body
will act as if that's like an antigen.
It'll create like an antibodyand creates like scar tissue or rebuilding
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material.
So that's a prolotherapy world.
Then evolved to what they callthe prp.
We heard of that.
And then now it goes into theworld stem cell, where they take
it from your own body andthey, they take out the thing called
the mesocoma stem cells, andthen they inject that damaged tissue.
And then now you get thetissue from a donor site from the
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umbilical core calledWharton's Jelly, and you take out
the mesocoma stem cells andthen you inject the damaged tissue
again.
And.
And now it's into the world oftopical application with the same
donor site from the umbilicalcord or Worden's Jelly.
And it's a topical applicationthat has a transdermal agent, pulls
it through the three layers ofskin into the damaged tissue.
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So now you'll have that kindof like, that risk factor of like
injections.
Right.
For infection, downtime, acompromised tissue you may damage
and more importantly, the cost.
So that's, that's the, that'sthe world that I, I got into here.
Pretty amazing stuff.
And yeah, anytime you haveinjections and so forth.
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Well, I would imagine withstem cell injections, it.
Does it really stay at theinjection site or does it affect
the entire body?
Yeah, so there's, there's,there's a primary and a secondary.
Right.
So you, you, when you injector when you apply any type of regenerative
properties in the area, thereare vessels there that it will actually
get into the vessels of venousor the arterial fl systemically go
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through the body in additionto target the existing tissue that
you're trying to heal.
So yeah, it does kind of both.
And stem cell injections,gosh, they're pretty expensive.
I mean, you can spendthousands and thousands of dollars,
right?
Yeah, I mean, I think thegoing rate now is between 4,500 to
$15,000 per injection site.
Oh my goodness.
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Yeah, it's very expensivebecause I mean.
Yeah, you think about the, theexpenses of the actual, I mean the
material itself, you know, is costly.
Then you talk about the actualprovider and then you have to safe
room and you have to do a lotof prep and then it's just, you know,
one after the other, like expenses.
You have to have to apply ontothat expense.
Whereas if you do regen, it'sjust a topical application that you
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can apply at home.
And what is the typicalexpense associated with the topical
therapy?
Yeah, so typical retail priceof regen is approximately $1,000,
so.
Oh, that's a big difference.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Now if somebody wanted to havewhole body benefits, would they have
to apply that everywhere orhow would that work with a topical
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stem cell?
Yeah, so I'm a sports med guy,so I stay specifically to an injured
site.
But now they're.
So the current procedure for asystemic protocol for, let's say
you're dealing with, maybethey want to, they want to try to
treat like a systemic issue.
You may have like, like maybean autoimmune issue or some type
of like, you know, maybe ananti aging protocol.
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They'll do like an IVinjection diluted with saline and
then it will get injected toyour venous system.
And then the neat thing aboutthis is that there's different kind
of vehicles for the systemic world.
So the mine is just localizedwith some like, maybe like some secondary.
They'll go to the systemic system.
But where you see like thewhole body kind of application, you'll
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do the IBM.
So there's another process outthere that, that's coming up right
now.
It's called a nasal spray.
You can, you know, you know,basically insert the applicator through
your nose and inhale it.
So the reason why they do thatis because no matter if you're taking
either the nasal or the ib,when it goes to your system, it collects
in your lungs for 24 to 48 hours.
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So it sits there.
Then after that it startsactually like going back into the
system and you know, takingcare of all the cells.
Interesting.
Okay, well, I know thatthey've done what vaccines.
They've looked at the nasalapplication for those, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Remember, so the top thing,when you do a nasal spray, if you
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have asthma, you know, those,those are the things you have to
be concerned about if you do anasal spray because they may irritate
capillaries in your lungs.
So do you want to take theother option, which is the IV Again,
you know, talk to yourprovider and then find out the best
pathway for that systemictreatment protocol.
For those who may not befamiliar, what do stem cells do for
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us?
Okay, so stem cell is kind ofunique in its definition.
Like, stem cell is.
What it does is it's like the root.
It's like the.
The starter of all your cells.
It helps you make other cells,and it's like, it.
It kind of creates like, atemplate or a beginning site to start
up and work.
Right.
So we have, like, all types ofstem cells, from embryonic stem cells
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to adult stem cells tomesocoma stem cells.
There's all kinds of stemcells out there, and some of these
are defined by its use, right?
So you look at, like, theycall a totipotent stem cell, where
it can make.
It can make a lot of otherstem cells.
Then we look at the thingscalled a potent pluripotent stem
cell, where you have a limitedamount of, like, cells they can go.
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Go into.
And then you got a uni stemcell when it turns into one cell
only.
So it varies, but basically,it's like the.
It's like a Kickstarter or thestarting template for your body to
reproduce or regenerate.
You know, it never ceases toamaze me how the miracle of the human
body, it is like, it's justunbelievable how the depth of, you
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know, of how we function, andwe don't.
We take it for granted.
We don't even realize.
We don't most.
You know, you don't.
You don't care.
But when you start listeningto someone like yourself, it's like,
wow.
Like, holy, man.
Yeah.
And, yeah.
What you're doing isabsolutely phenomenal.
And I have one question, goingback to your topical cream, would
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that help?
Like, my daughter has reallybad plantar fasciitis.
Would that help with thattopical cream?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Perfect example.
So plantar fasciitis is thatfascia on the bottom part of your
foot.
So when you have, like, theselittle muscles in the bottom of these
intrinsic muscles that helpyour foot kind of like, you know,
move, and they call like, a.
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Like a plantar flexion kind ofkind of motion, you start, like,
how would you say, like, stopusing the muscle.
And depending on otherstructures, like the fascia, and
when you don't have strongmuscles, it depends on keeping your
foot or your arch, you know, up.
It compromises the fascia.
So when you start compromisingthe fascia, you get these micro traumas
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when you get these microtrauma in your fascia.
Well, the first thing when yousee your trauma is inflammatory world.
That's why you hear the worditis, Right.
So then once you start gettingthe inflamma, you know, inflammation
in the area, now you're havingthe cascade of more occupying, like
fluid inflammation in additionto micro trauma.
And that's why you have that,that pain sensitive part of the foot
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right at the arch and close tothe forefoot.
So regen will help quickly generate.
So the thing with regen and,and then regenerative medicine, the
most important thing is thatyou're trying to see how you can
be young again.
And that tissue damage whenyou're younger heals faster.
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But when you get older, wecan't heal faster as we, as if we
were like in our 20s or teens.
So we're looking for a fasterpattern of healing.
Because when you look at thefascia of the foot, you're constantly
walking, you're constantlyusing it.
So if I heal faster, then Ican get to walk up the next day and
be able to walk.
But because we're aged, we'rehave, we're having to like, have
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more time to recover, like twoor three days.
And then if you keep on doingmore trauma over and over walking,
well, you beat up that areaand you're making it that little
micro trauma into almost amacro trauma where you're, you're
getting more of the fasciainvolved with it.
So that's what regenerativemedicine is.
And when you look at someonelike the 40 plus, you just want to
quickly regenerate ourselvesback to normal because it's all about,
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you know, when you work out,when you do any type of movement,
you do like a little microtrauma and you give yourself some
time to rest and itregenerates and then you're back
to square one again.
When you have a constant likeabuse, like walking or something
like that, well, it's hard tore, you know, rest it when you're
actually like using it.
So we need a faster recoveryand that is used by this stem cell
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regenerative medicine.
Oh, so the stem cell therapy,does it return the area that it's
treating to a much younger state?
Pretty much, not so much ayounger state.
It just helps, helps yourecover faster.
For instance, you know, if youhave like a cut on your skin, you
know, like a distal area likedown on the shins.
Well, when you were younger,that thing would heal within like
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a week or two.
As we get older, it takesweeks and weeks you know, poor circulation.
We don't have those growth factors.
We just have a lot of, like,our cells that we're able to, like,
heal faster.
Well, we're starting to limitour cells to recover or regenerate.
So that's why you needsomething that has the ability to
take that tissue that'sprobably, like, dormant, wake it
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up, and then regenerate faster.
That would be a gutsend for somany people, because chronic pain
seems to be a pandemic today.
I mean, everybody seems tohave issues with all of that.
Just watch any of thecommercials out there.
You know.
You know what?
I feel that the rise of, like,that chronic pain, because everybody
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knows how important activityand exercise is after 40 years old.
So exercise is a huge, like.
Like a.
How would you say, like apreventative type of medicine or
movement to avoid, like,cardiovascular diseases, diabetes.
The problem is, again, is thatwhen you start doing, like, an exercise,
let's say you're doing a walk,like an hour walk.
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Well, because of therepetitive movement, you'll start
getting those injuries now.
You.
You will break down tissues ofmuscle and tendon, and our own body
recycles and rebuilds.
Well, as we age, we don't havethose little adult stem cells or
those little cells that canregenerate our damaged tissue to
grow big, bigger, better, and stronger.
So now we're in that.
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The repetitive movement ofinjury, injury, injury, micro trauma,
where it becomes now a chronic situation.
So either you rest for a longperiod of time to recover, or you
speed up the healing process,and again, you go back into regenerative
medicine.
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You've probably heard all thebuzz about stem cell therapy, but
here's the don't need invasiveinjections to get the benefits.
Dr. Tommy Rhee, a pioneer inregenerative medicine, has treated
everyone from the Tampa BayBuccaneers, the UCLA women's soccer
team to the U.S. navy.
And he's showing us how noninvasive topical stem cell therapy
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is reshaping healing and longevity.
His new book, the Future ofRegenerative Unlocking the Potential
of Topical Stem Cell Therapy,explains why this breakthrough could
change the way we recover andstay strong.
Dr. Ry created regen, atopical stem cell therapy.
Stick around.
Dr. Ry is here to tell us moreabout how everything works.
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Dr. Ry stem cell therapy makesa lot of sense in terms of injury
and repetitive motion andthings that people do every day.
It's a, and maintain mobilityand to stay young.
Actually, I can't help butwonder with all the technology that
we have if people aren't goingto be dealing with more of these
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needs earlier.
Because you've got incidentsof what they call tech neck with
teenagers.
Yeah, absolutely.
They're leaning forward,they're looking down all the time,
they're texting, they'relooking at their device.
And that's not where we'resupposed to have our necks.
No.
You know.
Yeah.
Everything that comes tobiomechanics, when you change your
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biomechanics because of, youknow, posture or that mechanical
change in the chronic, you'regoing to stress out some ligaments
and then, you know, the worstcase scenario is when you actually
get that formation of that,like that, that, that forward head
movement.
And then the worst scenario isthat when you're stuck in that position.
So absolutely you need tocorrect that movement as much as
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possible.
And when you get to thatdamaged component of those ligaments,
well, you have to figure outhow to heal that.
So you want to just get eithermore rest to recover from that injury
or speed up the healing process.
What about like I have a lotas a heavy equipment operator, we
have a lot of shoulderinjuries and wood and the healing.
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A lot of us are over, youknow, 50 and I get my, my one co
worker had a shoulderreplacement on both shoulders and
she was off for almost three years.
Yeah.
Now to this day she, she'slimited in what she can do.
Would, what would regen,Would, would that.
Be assist her at all?
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Yeah.
So this was, this was thewonderful thing about a topical regenerative
medicine cream, Regen.
This is what's great about it.
There's no downtime.
You can continue your activitywhile applying Regen.
So Regen is a 30 day application.
And then we recommend, youknow, you can still do your activity
because it was really meantfor like professional athletes during
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the season.
So when you think about like,you know, an injection, let's say
you do stem cell therapy priorto, you know, you're doing surgery,
right.
So you want to do the mostconservative approach.
So back then it wasinjectables of the stem cell.
So the reason, the reason whyyou have downtime, because you have
a primary injury site, let'ssay it's like one of your rotator
cuff muscles in your shoulder.
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Well, when, if you hit, in a,if you hit the area with a needle
and you're going throughtissue, well, you're compromising
another spot.
So now you have a primary andsecondary injury spot.
Now you're recovering from twosites and that's why you need downtime
for the secondary injecting sites.
So now because of lack ofmovement, you might, you know, start
getting into a little bit amore adhesion buildup and then it
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kind of puts in a cascade.
Like, you know, it's just notfaring that well because you're immobilizing
that joint because you have torecover from the injury site of the
needle.
So but with a topical, youwant to continue on moving, you want
to continue on doing your same activity.
And that will penetratethrough the skin to the damaged tissue
over the 30 day period and ityields as much as the injectables.
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Now let me, let me tell youwhy I did, why I moved into the topical
world.
So as my athletes aretypically going through their season,
one of the complaints theyhad, they couldn't do these stem
cell therapy injections duringthe season because of the downtime.
So when you have downtime withpro athletes, like missing weeks,
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well, it, you're playing withtheir money, right?
So it's basically you miss acouple games, it's in their contract,
you get paid per game or something.
They don't want that inaddition to some other factors like
contracts or they don't wantto report injuries.
So what these guys would do,you know, to avoid that kind of like
that pain, they would do thatpain med stuff.
You know, you heard about theinjections and all that other Things
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that prevent them to feelwhat's going on down there in their
ankle, whatever problem they have.
So with the topicalapplication I started thinking that's
non invasive.
It can deliver the same paininformation, the stem cells down
into the tissue and thencontinue play.
So I had a quarterback thatwas going through a bad Achilles
tendon and he kept on, youknow, doing the off season protocol.
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Like with all athletes, theygo through a stem cell injection
protocol off season becausethey don't have to work out or do
anything.
So they have the ability to dosome rest time during that period.
But during the season, thisquarterback, his Achilles tendon
wasn't healing correctly.
So he came up to me, we talkedabout it and we started doing regen
with him, that topical application.
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So he was the one that helpedme tune up, formulated change, the
kind of, the overall feelingof it.
And because of him and himusing regen during the season, he
was able to play the wholeseason injury free.
It healed and moreimportantly, since he was at the
last year contract, it was notlike a negotiating tool, like, hey,
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you know, I can't give youthat much money because of, you know,
your injury here.
So that helps me out in that world.
So that's how it was first developed.
And I started thinking, well,if it works for that top athlete
doing a high velocity trauma,well definitely going to help out
civilians.
So that's why it went intothis world.
Then it went into things oflike, you know, the 40 plus that
we have, we still want to beactive, we still want to play pickleball
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activity at the later age, butwe just need something to speed our
healing process.
So that's how it transitionedto that.
So that's why I'm excitedabout regen for the topical aspect
is that now you can haveanybody use it without that invasive
world and no downtime.
So it eliminates pain andincreases mobility.
That would be just a lifechanger for people.
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Imagine that that footballplayer, if you didn't have that,
the future would have notturned out the way it did, right?
No, especially, I mean westill talk about it.
He's still, he's still a diehard person.
I mean, you know, footballplayers will always be, they always
go through injuries.
So he goes, oh, I got this, Igot that.
He goes, okay.
So yeah, absolutely.
But what I love about regionis that now because, you know, it's
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like, you know, like sometimeswhen you think about medicine and
where it, you see where it'sgoing down and then I, I wouldn't
say the trust value but youalways have to question.
You want a second third opinion.
Well, the great thing aboutour technology, you know, like we
talked about, is that there'sso much information out there.
So much, you know, placeswhere you get like good data points
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and then figure out whatprotocol, maybe it fits for you and
maybe it doesn't.
Or maybe there's somethingunique out there.
Well, it gives the patientability to start like, you know,
like really commanding of whatyou know is maybe a possibility that
it's out of the doctor's hands.
So that's what's fun aboutthis, is that, you know, regen or
stem cell therapy is so deepbut so proven out there that it's
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unique in its own world oflike, where to go with this and where's
the future See in this.
And then if you can actuallyhave it in the patient's hand and
then have an idea where thiscan be applied, well, that's where
the topical world gets involved.
Now it's in the patient's hand.
Hey, I've got this elbow pain.
It's tennis elbow.
I've been diagnosed.
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Let me apply it on here.
And then, you know, they havemore of a control of the protocol
and the treatment.
So the way this is designed,the molecules are small enough to
penetrate all of the layers.
Because I know that that'sbeen a challenge.
The molecules have to be small enough.
Yeah.
So there is an agent in theregen formula that helps penetrate
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or, you know, permeate throughthe three layer skin.
And that is called dmso.
And we've all known about DMSOin the past.
So that's the vehicle that weuse to get those small molecules
through the three layers of skin.
For those who aren't familiarwith dmso, what is that?
So it's.
They call it dimethyl sulfoxide.
It's a, it's a solvent.
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It's a natural solvent, comesfrom tree bark.
It was discovered probablyback in the early 1900s.
And where I, I heard moreabout it is when you're, when I was
younger, back in 1970s andstuff like that, you would have that
unique smell with people like,what is that smell?
And it was the one of thesulfur components of the MSO that
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people with arthritis wouldrub on their knees or their elbows,
and it would be fantastic for arthritis.
But the interesting thing isit's such a good transdermal application
that when you apply it on yourskin, right away you taste the sulfur
and you smell it very fastthrough your body, so it penetrates
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Very fast through your skin.
It's a lubricant.
I have neck issues and Iactually have used DMSL in the past
so I'm familiar with it.
Really?
Uh huh.
Did it work?
It did.
I don't know why I quit usingit, but I think I've tried a lot
of different things becausecertainly working at a computer all
the time doesn't help thesituation with my neck.
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I would imagine that regenwould really maybe alleviate some
of the pain.
Now can it actually rejuvenatesay discs that have big degenerated
in your skeletal structure or.
Okay, so here's the thing withwhen it comes to like disc issue,
you know, it's deep in theactual like the low back or your
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neck area.
And you know you have topenetrate through a lot of like tissue
like your muscle and fasciaand stuff like that.
So depending on the severityof your disc issue, if you have a
like there's like certaingrades of how bad things are.
So you know, grade one is notas severe as grade three.
So when you look at somethingthat not that severe, you know, let's
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say you have a little bit ofjoint space loss because the disc
has gone a little bit, youknow, in its, in its age process.
Now regen will help but thething is that just like if you were
in an injectable role for stemcell, it may be one of those things
that it's not going to be aone injection.
It may be a whole year of likeevery three month injection.
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So it all depends on theseverity of that gen disc.
So just like you know they doinjection, we kind of compare that
with regen.
So if you have a severe like agrade three disc, what they call
ddd, like disc degenerativedisease, then we would say if like
you need like at least threeprotocol or three treatment or three
kits of regen throughout thatyear period to help that tissue generate.
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Okay, so there is hope forpeople with degenerative disc disease
because that can come on at avery young age too.
Oh, now going back to thattechno neck.
Absolutely.
Our neck, low back, middleback, we have this a curve, a natural
curve and they call it likeeither like a thordotic or a cave
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body.
It's like if you look atyourself in sideways position, it
looks like an S. Right now wealways think that the disc are shock
absorbers, but naturally it'sfor mobility, we want motion.
So like our cervical havethese seven segments of the spine
and then lumbar has five andthe middle of our back called thoracic,
have 12.
Well, the disc in between,like all these vertebrae, bones.
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Well, the disc.
We look at that in our worldas mobility.
You want to keep the curve.
So it acts as one big spring,just like a slinky, right?
So when you think aboutwalking, if you have a curve from
your cervical, your neck,thoracic, your mid back and your
lumbar, low back, and you'redoing any kind of compression in
your body by walking, itsprings back and forth, you know,
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not disc by disc, but themobility of all the segments act
as one spring.
But when you have like astraight neck or a straight lumbar
and you lose the curve, well,now you're playing havoc on the disc,
where the disc starts bulgingout, herniating out.
And you don't want that.
You want to keep that natural curve.
So posture, very important.
That techno neck, you saidthat's not good because then you
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have a straight neck and then,then all of a sudden the disc starts
invasively going outwards, youknow, bulging and herniate now.
And then, now you're going onthat cascade of like bulging herniation
and go to neuropathy.
Then, you know, all the orthosin that world say, all right, you
need a dissected melaniectomyto alleviate the nerve pain.
Then you go down the cascadeof all, and now you're going down
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the rehab world.
So, yeah, you see howeverything starts with, number one,
poor posture, and then numbertwo, you know your biomechanics and
you know how to correct andget somebody to identify that.
So regen has the ability toregenerate, but when it comes to
posture, that's a wholemechanism of self discipline there.
So be all, but you understandthat part.
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So my mother was correct whenshe said, sit up straight.
Oh, 100%.
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Welcome back to women roadwarriors with Shelly Johnson and
Kathy Tucaro.
Let's talk about one of thehottest topics in health today, stem
cell therapy.
Most people think it meansneedles and expensive invasive procedures,
but Dr. Tommy Rhee is changingall of that.
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He's a pioneer in regenerativemedicine who's worked with the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers, UCLA athletes,and even the U.S. navy.
His new book, the Future ofRegenerative Medicine Unlocking the
Potential of Topical Stem CellTherapy reveals how non invasive
topical applications like hisown creation, Regen are helping athletes
and everyday people healfaster, stay mobile longer and boost
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their quality of life with no downtime.
Stay tuned.
Dr. Ry is explaining how allof this works.
It's really fascinating.
Dr. Ry.
In our last segment, wementioned posture as being super
important.
So self discipline's part ofkeeping our mobility.
Along with the advantages ofstem cell therapy like you have.
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Here's something funny about,you know, you always hear like, you
know, females are more proneto like neck herniations than males.
You know, I think the one ofthe common threads that, that, that's
really like pronounced ishair, because majority of females
have longer hair than males.
(31:31):
So when you think about hair,you think about, you know, the weight
of the hair.
And then you apply water tothat hair.
You're tech, maybe like almosta half a pound to a pound of extra
weight.
You're playing, you'reapplying on that neck area with the
hair.
So that's another thing thatyou have to be cognizant of, like
how to keep that posturebecause if you have the good posture,
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you can handle that weight,extra weight of that hair and being
wet.
But if you're out of position,that extra pressure, well, it's applied
to your discs now, so that'swhy it'll go down that pathway.
Makes sense.
You don't think about howheavy hair is, especially when you.
Heavy.
Yeah.
People, my cousin, oh my God,she, her, she had hair down to her
(32:14):
bottom and it was so thick andheavy and it was just, it gave her
a headache.
She ended up having to cut it.
Because it was just too much.
Yeah.
It's nice when you're younger,you know, but when you get older,
you know how that goes.
Especially when the hair getswet, then you're looking at, whoa,
that's a lot of weight.
It's a lot of work.
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Yeah.
I think as women and getbusier in their adult lives, they're
like, I don't want to dealwith this all the time.
Unless you have a hairdresserthat you can take with you.
And most people don't.
Dr. Rhee, you also have beeninvolved with oxygen therapy, whole
body cryotherapy, PISA waveshockwave therapy.
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What are all those things?
So because of injuredathletes, you want to speed up the
healing process and that, youknow, besides, you know, regenerative
medicine that's includes oxygen.
So when you look at oxygen inits, in its form, you want to include
it into like the healingprocess, right?
So just like if you have likea cut, you know how you have a cut
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in your hand, you, you knowthe old let the air out, it heal
faster.
Well, it's the same principle.
You want more oxygen, you wantmore the healing properties to the
damaged tissue.
So we have things like, youknow, a hyperbaric chamber.
It has higher pressure so itcan diffuse to the cell membrane
to get to that cell to heal faster.
And then there's another thingcalled the ewot, which is like exercise
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with oxygen therapy.
So the hyperbaric chamber doesmore of a, like a passive from the,
the gradient being strongeroutside than inside the cell membrane.
So the oxygen molecule getspushed through the membrane going
to the cell.
With ewt, it's almost theopposite, draws it in because you're
basically doing a high intenseexercise for about eight to 10 minutes
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and you're breathing like 60pounds of, of oxygen and it's forced
into your body.
So you're pulling it inbecause you're at extreme exercise
that you're, you're pushingyour lack threshold higher.
So it gives you the ability togo harder, Stronger because the O2
is consumed at a faster rate.
So again, that's another wayof pulling oxygen through your body.
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Instead of being forced intoit, it's getting drawn into it.
Then I have another devicethat's called a PISA wave.
And then, you know, they callit the old, AKA the shock wave or
something like that.
So it's just basically there'sfluid that gets caught in between
joint space.
So I can't manually getbetween like, let's say the top part
of your ankle.
They call it a telodome.
You can't get in there toflush out that fluid, so you need
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something forcefully get out there.
So we use this high velocitysound wave and the PISA wave to get
in there and push that fluid.
And it's just, it's afocalized right into that joint space
and it pushes that fluid out.
So it gives you like more ofa, more of a fluidity in that joint
so that it won't have thatcompression of the excess fluid inflammation.
So, you know, when you're inthe sports world, you want the latest
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and highest technology you canfind out there to help these athletes
or civilians or anybody thathave to do with like, you know, movement.
You know, our missionstatement here is we treat everybody
like a pro athlete.
So that includes, you know,Weekend warriors, the people that
sit in the office, we treatthem all like an athlete.
You're gonna.
We always look at you as amoving object.
If it's high performance orlow performance, you're still moving.
(35:27):
So when we look at that, thenwe say, all right, what's the best
equipment for those proathletes or people behind the desk?
That's the equipment.
So we look for those type ofequipments to help you heal faster
and really, like, just get youback to play or, you know, whatever
you're thinking about doingmakes sense.
Well, I imagine people, whenthey're weekend warriors, do some
serious damage if they've beensitting all week and then they decide
(35:49):
to really break it loose.
They come back hobbling andhunched over on Monday.
Yeah.
Hey, you know that.
You know how the old.
What's the old analogy?
Like, I'm young in mind, notin the body.
That's the problem with all of us.
We all think we can still dothings like we're 20 years old.
Sure.
But, you know, mindset reallyis a positive thing.
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Oh, absolutely.
That absolutely is a verypositive thing.
It's just that you just need abody to catch up to the mind, show
some activity.
But, you know, I. I've knownpeople in their 20s who think old,
and it's.
Yeah.
And they're setting themselves up.
So.
Yeah.
You know, I always see thatthe biggest component of majority
(36:33):
of these.
Like these.
You hear the classic disordersor diseases that are coming up more
often, like diabetes andcardiac disease.
One of the components that aremissing is just the simple movement,
exercise.
You got to keep moving.
Your body loves that stress.
And then you just kind oflike, you know, just put yourself
in a little bit of stressfulsituation so you can handle it as
(36:55):
you go further in life.
We are more sedentary as asociety than we were 50 years ago.
When you think about it, it'sgood to see children when they're
running around outside, whenthe parents say, get out there, because
most of them are in front oftheir video games or their smartphones,
they're sitting.
(37:15):
Yeah.
It's incredible what's goingon out there.
You hear about the.
Even the curriculum.
The school, like, restrictingPE classes and.
And they're shortening a lotof these activities to be physical
in class.
So, yeah, it's interestingwhere it's evolving.
Right.
It's not evolving correctly.
I mean, we're not designed to sit.
And I know as a kid, I couldnot sit.
(37:37):
It's like, I'm done with my work.
I'm going to run around the room.
It's like, Shelly, sit down,you know.
Now, whole body cryotherapy,is that the same thing, like the
cryogenics?
I mean, what is that?
So, so whole body cryotherapy,so you're.
You're basically in thischamber for about two and a half
minutes at below 166 degrees.
(37:59):
And the object is that.
Yeah, so the object is thatyou want to do what they call a sympathetic
reaction, where you shunt allthe blood from your extremities to
your core and you basically constrict.
So the therapy itself is notduring the actual cryo aspect of
it.
You heard like, like the coldplunge and all that.
And it's the same theory, butin this case it's a lot faster.
(38:21):
Because the first thing yourbody does in the physiology world,
it's when it feels cold, itwants to warm the area up.
So it does what they callbasal dilation.
So it brings more blood flowto the area.
So your capillaries open upand it allows more of the oxygenated
blood at that, that coretemperature to get to the extremity,
the arm or leg, and then ittries to warm it up.
When it identifies that itcan't warm up, then it does the opposite,
(38:44):
which is basically close thevessels down, protect the core of
the heart and, you know,organs and shunt all the blood from
the arms and legs to theactual core of the body.
Right.
So with cryo, whole bodycryotherapy, it's so coded.
It bypasses the firstcomponent of it, and it goes right
into vasoconstriction.
It goes right into thesympathetic reaction.
So what the idea is that it'snot so much that you don't want the
(39:07):
cryo component of it.
You want the secondary.
The.
The result of the sympatheticis the parasympathetic.
When you come out now, youhave to.
The body recognizes we're backto a room temperature.
So it goes back to theparasympathetic, and they so dilates
large vessels on all thevessels, and it opens things up so
then you can quickly flush out.
(39:28):
So now you have oxygenatedblood going down in this large diameter
of the.
Of the dilation, but also thevenous and arterial flow are opened
up.
So now you're flushing out allthat extra stuff, including metabolic
waste.
So when you have that kind ofinflammatory world, you know, you're
stuck with like a long period.
Like, you know, you alwaysfeel like a little swollen or some
(39:50):
type of inflammation or something.
Well, that's what the idea isthat you want to flush it out fast.
So that's why you go into the cryo.
And then when you come out ofit five, 10 minutes later, you feel
that flushing feeling of thatwarmth through your whole body.
Well, that's the bodyreturning it to its norm function.
So cold body cryotherapy wasfirst developed by a Japanese rheumatologist
(40:11):
as that was working withrheumatoid arthritis.
So that was one of hisprotocol because, you know, rheumatoid
arthritis is basically yourbody autoimmune.
It's, it's trying to, youknow, fight itself or attack itself.
So when it comes to rarheumatoid arthritis, some of the
things that you want to getout is that metabolic waste.
(40:31):
So this Japanese doctor wentinto this world of cryotherapy and
he saw great results aboutpain and getting back to like, you
know, normal function.
So that's how it was first started.
And then athletes took upon torecover faster.
You want to get that metabolicwaste, all that, like that, that
excess bad tissue, you want toget it out that all the free radicals,
(40:52):
you want to get it out.
And then it moved into theworld of just wellness.
So cryo.
So when you hear about whenpeople and they do like cold plunge.
Cold plunge, that's why theywant you to stay in there a little
longer because your firstcouple minutes is a warming sensation
and then secondary is theconstricting component of it.
So that's the whole body cryotherapy.
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So you're flushing the body of toxins.
Yeah.
Afterwards, not during thetime afterwards.
So you want the aftermath ofthat cryotherapy.
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Welcome back to Women Roadwarriors with Shelly Johnson and
Kathy Tucaro.
Stem cell therapy iseverywhere in the headlines.
(42:16):
But what if you could get thebenefits without the needles?
Dr. Tommy Rhee has beenleading the charge in regenerative
medicine.
He's worked with the Tampa BayBuccaneers, UCLA athletes, and even
the US Navy.
His therapies are unique.
In his new book, the Future ofRegenerative Unlocking the Potential
of Topical Stem Cell Therapy,he reveals how his innovation Regen
(42:39):
is making healing faster,mobility lasting longer and life
better, all without invasive procedures.
He's changing the face of whatgetting older means.
Dr. Ree's been sharing hisgreat insight with Kathy and me.
Dr. Ree, I would imagine withall of the different chemicals in
our world today, there's a lotmore toxicity that maybe people 60,
(43:01):
70 years ago didn't deal with.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I think the primeexample I still like, use, remember,
like, I remember like back inthe 70s, a loaf of bread couldn't
stay longer than a week.
And now you can keep a loaf ofbread for like three weeks on a shelf.
It's kind of scary.
It's like very scary.
Yeah.
(43:21):
What's next?
I mean, there are things outthere that we don't even know we
see.
Look at the ingredients.
Like, look at that go.
What is all this stuff here?
I think the best.
Like, like, you know, if youreally want to know what goes on
as far as, like, is it, is itsafe for you?
Just put a, put a food down onthe ground and see what like insect
or ants or something will eat it.
Do you see it still there?
Nobody's touched it.
Tells you exactly what that's about.
(43:44):
It's kind of funny because Ihave a severe gluten allergy and
at work I'll toss out the, thegluten free bread.
Even the ravens won't touch it.
Even like the gluten freecrackers, they won't touch it.
Yeah.
It's kind of funny.
Anything but the gluten free.
If insects aren't going to eatsome of that stuff.
Yeah.
Why would I?
(44:04):
Yeah, yeah.
Because they're nature'scleanup crew.
Yeah.
When you think about it, younever remember.
Remember when Margin wasaround, Margaret?
Oh, yeah.
Do you remember, like,remember it would never melt.
Just never melt.
You stick it out in roomtemperature and never melt.
Whereas butter, we had butter.
I mean basically almost likeback to liquid.
And I remember like ants androaches around my house.
(44:26):
You know, I used to live in abad part of town, but they would
never touch that stuff.
They would just, you can seethem attack everything else, like
butter and stuff.
But not, not that.
Yeah, we need to do somethinking and do some observing what
mother nature is consuming.
And if they won't touch whatwe're eating, maybe we shouldn't
too.
Yeah, Good point.
So, Dr. Ry, where do peoplefind your product?
(44:49):
Where do they find your book?
Your book really is a greattutorial for people.
I think that there are a lotof different things that you cover
the types of stem cells, celldamage and aging.
Who's a candidate for stemcell therapy?
You explain chromosomes andtelomeres and telomerase and all
of that stuff.
Those are kind of the buildingblocks, aren't they, with our bodies?
(45:10):
Where do people get educatedwith the future of regenerative medicine
Unlocking the potential oftopical stem cell therapy?
And where do they reach out to you?
Okay, well, as far as my book,you can go onto Amazon and just,
you can type in my name, Dr.Thomas Re.
Or you can just do the title,which is the future of Regenerative
(45:31):
medicine Unlocking thePotential of Topical Stem Cell Therapy.
And again.
Yeah, exactly.
So it has the science aspectof it.
It also has a layman'sterminology in there.
So we can all follow along thepath of Jeff and his quest of understanding
about stem cell and topicalstem cell.
(45:51):
For Regen, you can look upregen.com, which is R-H-E-E-G-E-N.com
and there's a lot ofinformation on there and lot of good
topics.
And then if you have anyquestions, you know, we have a social
media site that goes into anytype of, like, scenarios of a particular
injury or something.
(46:12):
And if you need to get a holdof me there, there should be a little
click there that you can goinfo at Regen.
Just ask me a question andI'll shoot back to you within a couple
hours or days, you know,depending on where I'm at, and then
I'll get your answers.
Excellent.
Well, I would imagine peoplehave different needs and maybe even
reach out to you regardingjust anti aging.
(46:34):
Certainly women are always,we're always being programmed.
You've got to look like you're16 years old, you know.
Yeah.
You know, it doesn't just stop there.
If I think everybody wants tobe 16 years old, I looked at my old
pictures.
Oh, look at those days in the Navy.
Look at that.
Yeah.
What's the perfect age, youknow, if people could go back in
(46:54):
time with the knowledge we have?
Yeah, very good.
What would you want to looklike and feel like?
And wouldn't it be really great?
I mean, do you see that withstem cell therapy that it's going
to essentially prolong ourlives, but also the quality of life?
Yeah.
So there's like two, like, age spans.
There's a, you know, age.
(47:14):
There's a lifespan and anactive lifespan.
And I know that people want tothink about the aesthetics and how
you look, but I always look athow you feel, you know, that's really
important.
How can you keep going?
Exercise, being active,because activity and exercise is
such a good mental.
How would you say, almost likea therapeutic way of dealing with
(47:36):
other type of mental stress,that physical aspect.
So where I see in the futureis that aesthetically, you know,
it would definitely go there, but.
But it's about the physicalside of it, about allowing yourself
to keep going, keep allowingyourself to play that pickleball,
play with your grandkids, play with.
Be able to keep moving soyou're functioning fine.
And then you're having that,that, that fun feeling of being active
(47:58):
as if you're young.
That's what life's about.
You know, if we don't havequality of life, there really isn't
life.
You want to be able toparticipate in life.
Oh, yeah.
That's the biggest thing to do.
You know, just.
I always say that if you lookat, you know, but that's what the
beat of the office is.
I get to see all ages in theirinjury and what set them off into
(48:22):
that cascade.
So I'm fortunate to see thefuture about my life and others with
the examples of my patients here.
So it's.
One of the key components is activity.
When you see someone in their90s, 80s, still active.
And one of the key components, exercise.
Keep moving, keep moving.
You know.
You know, in.
(48:42):
I was nursing for 13 years andI worked four years in orthopedics
and we had at the top hipreplacement in the country in Canada
and knee surgery.
And the thing that was themost noticeable was those that exercised
versus those that didn't intheir recovery, the ones that constantly
(49:03):
exercise, done yoga.
The healing process was almostimmediate, as opposed to those who
never walked, who never didstairs, it would take the length
and time for healing wasalmost double.
Big difference.
Yeah.
You know, and that's why Ialways think about active lifespan.
Being in an 80s, still being active.
You always want to think thatI want the ability to continue walking
(49:27):
and being competitive inwalking, just like as if you're in
20s.
Nothing's.
I can only imagine what itfeels like if I'm in my 70s that
have a difficult time walkingjust a quarter mile.
I mean, that would play mental.
That would be mental, like detrimental.
My whole psychological outlookif I can't apply that kind of like
(49:49):
physical stress on my body.
Sure, yeah.
We don't feel good.
It affects our mental state.
It's everything.
And people deteriorate, theyget depressed, they get discouraged.
It's just a whole bodyreaction when you think about it.
So Dr. Ree.
What is your website again?
It's www.regenR-H-E-E-G-E-N.com and then again
(50:16):
Amazon.
If you look at the FutureRegenerative Medicine at Amazon and
you can see.
My book there, this has beensuper informative.
So interesting.
Oh my goodness.
So interesting.
Thank you very much.
Oh you guys are great.
This is so much fun.
You know I loved it.
Well, thank you Dr. Ray.
We appreciate it very much andthis has been informative for our
listeners.
Yeah, great.
Guys are great, awesome.
(50:38):
We appreciate having you onthe show.
Dr. A.
Thanks so much and both Kathyand I have learned a ton.
It's been a pleasure.
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