April 1, 2025 • 60 mins
Meirav Rosenberg empowers women to be brave, bold, and ballsy, teaching them how to take charge of their dreams and pursue their goals without hesitation. With over 17 years of experience in digital marketing, design, and business, she emphasizes the importance of self-worth and succeeding without sacrifice. Meirav shares her insights on how to navigate life's challenges by viewing them as a numbers game, encouraging women to embrace rejection as a normal part of the journey. Her approach combines practical strategies with a focus on joy and gratitude, highlighting the significance of making intentional choices. Tune in to this episode of Women Road Warriors with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Tuccaro and discover how Meirav helps women unlock their potential and live a life of abundance, inspiring listeners to recognize their unique value and strengths.
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This is Women Road warriorswith Shelly Johnson and Kathy Tucaro.
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Welcome.
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I'm Shelley.
And I'm Kathy.
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Have you ever just wanted togo for it without any hesitation
and just pursue that dream ofyours with no regrets?
Merav Rosenberg spends hertime showing women how.
She's a highly sought afterconsultant and speaker who teaches
women how to be brave, boldand ballsy.
How women can grow a pair andtake charge of their dreams.
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She talks about the muscle ofself worth and succeeding without
sacrifice.
Merav has proven she knows how.
She spent over 17 years indigital marketing, design and business.
She's the founder and CEO ofthe Paz Agency and Paas Interactive
where she works with clientsthat range from health and wellness
to real estate to nonprofits.
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She helps them unlock theirpotential and digital presence.
Merav brings an energy andinspiration to everything she touches.
We have the honor of havingher on the show with us to hear some
of her insights.
Welcome, Merov.
Thank you for being with us.
Thank you so much for having me.
Shelly and Kathy, I'm very,very happy to be here and thank you
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for doing all this amazing work.
Well, thank you.
And we're excited.
Oh my goodness.
Merav, you know, you've gotsome serious perspectives.
We want to know more aboutwhat has driven you to evolve the
way you have.
I mean, this is super impressive.
Tell us about yourself.
So I'm 42 and I think it's animportant part because I have two
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16 year olds, twins, boy and agirl, where I think is very, very
challenging.
And I'm enjoying my time.
Alas, at this time, I have a10 year old.
I think that I've alwayswanted to be a mother.
And I was born in Israel.
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I was religious, Jewish,religious, Orthodox, living in Jerusalem.
And at a very young age, myfather, who was a diplomat from the
Ministry of Finance, gotrelocated to New York City.
So from Little Israel, wemoved to New York City when I was
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7, did not know anybody andobviously it was an amazing experience.
However, my father died in atragic car accident when I was 10.
Oh, so sorry.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I think as a child learningthat, you know, your father will
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not be in your life Anymorehad triggered something in me.
And I really feel like thatwas the first time probably where
you.
You are old enough to make a choice.
You're old enough to make achoice, whether it is that you are
going to take this tragedy andreally be a victim and say, oh my
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God, this happened to me, orthat you can take a tragedy like
this and say, okay, it's verysad what happened, but how do I move
on from this?
And I call this a moment of choice.
I say this a lot in many ofthe things that I have dealt with
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along in my life.
But there is a moment wheresomething really big happens.
And today I don't even call itbad or good, but something happens,
and then you have a choice.
You have a choice to choose.
Joy.
Whatever the problem was,whatever happened to you, you still
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have a choice.
Will it be difficult?
Yes.
Will it be sad?
Oh, my God.
And it never, I think, endsbeing sad, but I think that you have
a choice.
And when we talked about thefact that, you know, ballsy, I think
it's unfortunately a manlyterm, but it's kind of okay.
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Being a person that choosesvery easily is a trait that most
people give to men.
Yes, ma'am.
Men choose easier than women usually.
So I think, like, from a veryyoung age, I knew that I had to make
choices.
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I knew that I had to makedecisions, and that's what we did.
And I think I've always seenmy mom as.
As someone who also makesdecisions very easily, is someone
who has always been a career woman.
And I did see that, you know,you have a lot of strength for making
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your own choices.
And so at that point of time,I think that's when I realized that
there is a difference betweenwhat you choose and what you get
to have in your life whenmaking choices like that.
Why do you think men makechoices more easily than women?
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Well, I think initiallythey're giving more confidence than
women since, like, forever.
You know, Like, I really feelthat if we look at history, right,
and if we have stories in ourmind that we do, then we can definitely
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see that men are given more responsibility.
I mean, look at America.
If there ever is a choicebetween a man and a woman, it doesn't
really matter who it will be.
They usually choose men.
And I think that choice givenover and over and over again does.
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Cause I think self confidencewith every woman, especially with
women who are raising women.
Very true.
And you know, even if it isn'ttalked about, it's this underlying
knowledge or thought, thecultural inclination to favor Men,
I mean, as a little girl,girls see this, you know, it's.
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It's all conditioned, isn't it?
It is conditioned.
And I think that I must sayabout me that the power does not
interest me.
I'm not a very competitive person.
I'm more friendly, loving,want a lot of people to be happy,
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kind of a healer, serviceprovider person.
And I think that power doesnot interest me at all.
It doesn't make me tick.
It doesn't.
And I think that menspecifically do have that kind of
sense and with that kind oftake that power in their hands.
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And I think we just somehowduring history, we gave it to them.
I don't know how.
I don't know how.
But we did.
But we did.
Yes.
Very patriarchal.
Patron.
Linear, if you will.
Exactly.
Yep.
And I think that this is our time.
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Amen to that.
So do we.
Onward, onward we ride, Right?
Absolutely.
So you were able Merov, youhad some serious tragedy at a very
early age.
And going from Israel to ahuge city like New York City.
Oh my.
You really had to adapt.
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Do you think that that helpedmaybe galvanize your goals and give
you the strength you needed?
I think.
And I did the same thing, likefor my children as well, opening
up Paz Agency in New York.
I took.
We.
Obviously after my dad'stragedy, we did move back to Israel.
And I spent many of mychildhood and adulthood in Israel,
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finding my ex husband andhaving three kids here.
And then I thought to myselfthat the experience of relocating
to such an amazing, amazing city.
And I always say this, I saythis to my new fiance.
I say to him, listen, I loveyou, okay?
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Right after my children.
And then it's New York andthen it's chatgpt.
Just so that you know that Ihave like this order and really like
now, like I have a new obsession.
ChatGPT.
But it was New York beforeand, and tomorrow, my love, he's.
He's before those.
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But I actually love New Yorkso much and I fell in love with it
as a child and I always say itwas, it was kind of.
I don't know how it's.
Either you love New York or you.
Or you're like.
Or you don't.
But when you love New York,it's like.
It's like you're cheating.
I.
I really feel that way becauseit's such a.
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It's.
It's.
It's so infatuating.
And that's what I felt as a child.
It was you being in a.
In a place where, wherethere's so many opportunities and
so many choices.
And I love that.
I love having many choices andI love having opportunities.
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And I think finding that froma small, small, tiny country and
you know, even, even beingEnglish is my second language, right?
Hebrew is my first language.
And English is, is a main keyto, to, I think, success, especially
when you come from such likeour country is like 9 million people.
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That's it.
And so going into a place withlike 300, 400 million people, right?
It's the opportunities multiply.
And I've always been a numbers game.
My father is in economic andI've always been into numbers.
And so you really have to giveyourself as many opportunities as
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you can.
And I think that's what NewYork symbolizes to me.
And then I took my ex husbandand three kids with me on.
On a journey to New York.
And I think that they aredifferent people due to that because
the adaptation.
And I think that's what weall, by the way, need, right?
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I mean, how do you succeed in life?
The way that you are flexiblein your mind, the ways that you adapt
to situations and problems and.
Yeah, so from a very youngage, I had that kind of lesson, you
know, of adapting, adapting tothis, adapting to tragedy, adapting
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to change.
So much change in my life hasoccurred, and I feel like this has
given me optimism.
You have some really seriouswisdom for 42.
A lot of people at 42 stillreally don't know what they want
to do when they grow up.
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And the fact that you sawopportunity at such a young age,
you saw a whole new world.
You knew there was more outthere, there was more potential,
more opportunities.
And the fact that you wereable to grasp it, that took bravery,
tenacity, all of the above.
And I love what you're doingin terms of showing women they can
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do it too.
And I love brave, bold and ballsy.
I mean, it really.
This is powerful.
How women can grow a pair andtake charge of their dreams.
How do they do that?
I think there is a kind of a plan.
And like I said, I'm a numbers woman.
Okay.
Like, I love.
I think that digitalmarketing, by the way, is a numbers
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game.
I mean, sales is a numbers game.
I feel like we're all likethis whole world is.
Is math okay?
And that's like a very, veryspiritual level.
But I feel like we're all justplaying a numbers game.
And, and having said that,yes, numbers is kind of a man or
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a male quality, I believe.
And as soon as you tap in tounderstanding that this Is just a
numbers game.
Meaning, let's give an example.
Okay?
If you are afraid ofrejection, which all of us are, all
of us are afraid of rejection.
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But if you're a person that'safraid of rejection, all you have
to do is think of it.
In regards to numbers, if youhave, I would say 10, like, I help
people, especially, obviouslywomen date, okay?
It's, it's not something thatI do professionally, but because
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I took 60 dates to find myfiance on apps, okay, Which a lot
of people hate doing and a lotof people are afraid of rejection.
I usually come up to a ladyand I ask her, listen, out of 10
men that you dated, how manysaid no to you and how many have
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you said no to them?
And the numbers are almostalways the same.
Probably eight of the men thatshe said no to and two said no to
her.
And so if you think of it inregards to numbers, wait, did I actually
just get rejected or is thislike a normal part of life and it's
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just a numbers game?
And the way that I look atlife is just, okay, I'm gonna try
and do this.
I'm gonna see what comes outof it.
I'm not attached to the resultof it.
I won't be disappointed or heartbroken.
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And I think that's more of aman or a male quality.
And that's why I say ballsy.
And I also have like a verygreat laid out plan of how I do things.
And I think that takes away ofall my thinking that it won't work.
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I just have a plan.
I have an Excel sheet, I havea Word document, I have a task list,
and I just go by the plan, plan.
And if you go by the plan andyou take away, I think the kind of,
you know, like feeling of, oh,my God, I'm going to like fail or
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get rejected, then everythingwill work out amazingly.
And if you try that threetimes, I'm sure it's going to be
a method for you as well.
And I'm sure, absolutely surethat you're going to see results
from what you just did.
So that's kind of my, my wayof thinking how I actually help women
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implement this is by actuallygiving them out the plan, but this
is by, by having to build abusiness or two, having to do like
a US Visa for my, my agency,having so many business plans done
for other people.
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It was super easy for me tosay, okay, what's your goal?
And let's take away the fearof rejection of that goal, and let's
have a plan so you think lessabout the rejection.
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Mayrov Rosenberg believes thatresilience and adaptability are the
keys to thriving in both ourpersonal and professional lives.
She learned to adapt as achild following the tragic loss of
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her father.
She learned choices anddecisions must be made.
It's up to you if you decideto be a victim or you take a tragedy
and say, it's sad, but how doI move on from this?
A moment of choice is whatMayroff calls this.
Something happens and you havea choice to choose joy.
She believes in choosing joyno matter what.
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How you succeed in life is howyou adapt to situations.
It's all a numbers game.
You need to Analyze your riskand lay out your plan to win.
If you go by your plan, you'llsee results.
Determine your goal and removethe fear of rejection of that goal.
Create a plan where you thinkless about the rejection and you'll
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get where you want to go.
Mehrov is a highly soughtafter consultant and speaker who
teaches women how to be brave,bold and ballsy.
She gives them back their power.
She's the founder and CEO ofthe Paz Agency and Paas Interactive
where she works with clientsthat range from health and wellness
to real estate and nonprofits.
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She helps businesses unlocktheir potential and digital presence.
With over 17 years of digitalmarketing, design and business, Merov's
mission is clear.
To show women they're enoughjust as they are.
We're enjoying her powerful insights.
Mayroff, your detail aboutmaking a plan makes so much sense.
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It puts us in a more logical mindset.
We rule with our head, not our heart.
Because a lot of times if youtake things emotionally, you're gonna
be discouraged.
Like you were talking about rejection.
If you look at it as a game ofodds, a game of numbers, you keep
at something, eventually it'sgonna be your turn, right?
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You're gonna win, you're gonnawin, you're gonna win.
But you also have to believethat you're gonna win.
And I think that that's themost difficult part.
But like I said, the, thethings that take you back are the
overthinking, which istotally, totally figureoutable by
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a really good laid plan.
And like I said, if you thinkof the world as a numbers game, I
think that you would understand.
Like, I have this client,she's a sales, a.
She's like a sales expert.
And she said, I used to workin Australia, right in the carts.
And I, I would, I would writedown like how many people said no
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to me and how many people saidyes to me.
So it came to like a placewhere in the beginning it was one
out of six.
So what I thought to myself,all I need to get is another six
to have another sale.
So this is exactly, I think,how we should think of life.
It's just how many people do Ineed to reach out to in order to
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get what I want?
And you don't know thosenumbers initially, but as soon as
one says yes to you, then youhave kind of an understanding.
And I got this, by the way,from the digital marketing world
that I do.
I do so many sponsored ads forso many clients, whether it's Facebook
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or Instagram or Google.
And the only Way that you knowif you're doing well is by measuring
results.
Yep.
Yep.
And.
And as soon as you measure aresult, I mean, you're not attached
to a creative banner.
I have 20 creative bannersthat I do for each campaign.
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I don't care if one succeedsand one doesn't.
I just want to know what works.
Sure.
Yeah.
And.
And I feel like, again, thisis unfortunately kind of a ballsy
aspect of it, but I had tolearn very quickly on.
To be ballsy.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well.
And to open an agency in NewYork City.
That's a very competitive town.
It is.
But I remember everyone askingme, so why are you going to be different?
And I said, well, because I'm me.
And I think that's another.
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You came to.
I think the most importantpart of what I do for women, and
I think for.
And this is for women, but Ithink for all.
But women need.
Need more help in, In.
In understanding how specialthey really, really are.
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I feel like we're like themost special race.
Like, really, seriously.
It's.
It's.
We're.
We're amazing.
We're absolutely amazing.
I think so, too.
We bring a lot to the table.
We really sure do.
You bring light to the table.
Okay.
Literally.
And.
And I feel like we're super,super special.
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And what I really.
This is exactly what I saidwhen I was interviewed for getting
a US Visa.
Right.
With my business.
And she asked me there.
It's.
It's very competitive what you do.
There's so many people in yourfield, and I always say you do not
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have to be even the best, butyou do have to be the nicest.
One of my, My, My kind ofmindset, how I work.
But also I said, but there'sonly one me.
And I think this is the mainthing that I tell every woman.
There's only one you.
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There will never, ever beanyone like you, Shelley, and anyone
like you, Kathy, in the wholeentire universe, ever, ever, ever.
And the qualities that youbring in to what you do is the reason
that you do what you do.
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And I feel like purpose is.
Is.
Is supposed to be easily obtained.
If you're good at something,then there's a reason for.
For it.
And don't, like, downplay it,you know, like showcase it.
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Make sure that peopleunderstand that that is what you
love to do and, And.
And tell everybody about it.
And that's what's going tomake you understand who you really
are.
What do you say to a woman whosays, I, I want to do this, but in
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My particular career field,it's male dominated and the glass
ceiling is really thick.
Um, change locations, change a job.
I really would say that.
I know that is super ballsy,but I feel like if someone says that
they're not hurting enough.
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The reason why I have anagency is because me and my ex husband
had a very difficult relationship.
It wasn't, it wasn't a greatone starting out.
And I at when my twins werethree months old, I was obviously
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on maternity leave and Icouldn't go back to the job that
I did because I did want totake care of them and I needed to
find a different one.
But it was, we had a very,very bad relationship at the time
and having twins did not, Ithink, help that even more.
But I was in love with mychildren and I knew that I needed
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to be financially independentand so I started working in the mornings
and at nights just to have thefinancial freedom that I needed.
And I think that you couldalways go and do better if you know
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what you want to do.
So if you have an example,that would be an amazing thing to
talk about.
But as for women having somany options, and this is me speaking
out of my digital marketingkind of expertise, right.
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I have seen so many differentwomen entrepreneurs.
Whether it's interior design,whether it's hr, whether it's female
oriented, anything, Ecommerce, stores, cbd, whatever.
I have seen it all.
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And I feel like a lot ofpeople don't know how many options
are out there, how many hybridjobs there are out there, how many
people need the expertise thatyou don't even appreciate about you.
And so what I would do is makea list, a list of all the things
that I love to do and a listof all the things that I'm good at,
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by the way.
They don't have to be, youknow, like the same at all.
But I feel like when you goand find something that you're also
good at but also love to do,that's where the abundance comes
from.
That makes sense.
I think a lot of people have ahard time identifying that.
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Even if you ask somebody whatdo you like about yourself?
It's amazing.
Especially women hold thoseshy back, they don't want to, they
feel like it's bragging andyou gotta like yourself first.
Wow.
This is a story about mylittle girl.
She's going to be 10 tomorrow actually.
But probably a year ago, afterI started healing myself and on a
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spiritual journey, she came upto me and we used to do five good
things before she went to sleep.
Meaning every night before shewent to sleep.
And this is due to me pickingher up from school, I think in first
grade.
And she's saying everythingwas boring.
I said, no, no, no, no, we'rechanging this.
You're not telling meeverything is boring.
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Life is amazing, and you'regoing to find out how much.
And every night we started todo five good things before she went
to sleep.
And one night, and I alwaysstarted because she always wanted
me to start.
And one night I said, well, Iworked out in the morning, I ate
very well today, very healthy.
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I said to her, I had a greatmeeting with an amazing new client.
And then at number four, Isaid, and I love myself.
And then she says, mom, you'resupposed to love me.
And I said, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait, wait.
Mom has made a huge mistake.
I have to explain to yousomething before you love me, you
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love you.
Before I love you, I love me.
And this is right when you goon a plane and there's this.
The, the flight attendant isexplaining what happens in case of
an emergency, right.
If the oxygen masks comesdown, who does she say?
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That you have to put it on first.
Yourself.
Certainly like in the case ofa parent, you put it on yourself
first so you can help your child.
Yeah, exactly.
And this is exactly the same analogy.
You have to love yourself first.
Otherwise how are you going tolove everybody else?
And how are you going to havethe space?
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How are you going to have the,the how do you know?
It's like Oprah saying, be sofull of yourself that you're overflowing.
Right?
And what she means is that youhave to love yourself because when
you're full and full of love,full of your self love, then all
you want to do is loveeverybody else.
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That's true.
And there's, and there'sobviously the other side of it, right?
When, when you don't have selflove and you're hurting, what do
you do?
Most people that are hurt?
Those are the people that hurt others.
Yeah.
Not the people who love themselves.
Definitely not the people wholove themselves.
They're not the one who do the hurting.
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And so one of the things thatI would love it is if we teach our
children and if we teach, youknow, kids at school that self love
is the most important thing.
It's the most important thing.
With this we can, we can do so much.
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And I think like you askedabout a person who is in a place
where is male dominated.
Like, like if you don't have aseat in the table, then Go get a
different table.
I like that.
Thank you.
Yeah, me too.
That's a great slogan.
Thank you.
I think I've heard itsomewhere, so I'm not taking all
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the.
But I don't remember where.
But it's a.
It's an amazing.
It's an amazing phrase.
If you don't have a seat atthe table, go get your own table.
And I think I did not do thisstarting out.
I had an amazing woman boss,which is still one of my best friends.
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Starting off when I was amarket marketing director at a theater
hall, that's how I started,kind of my marketing way.
And.
And she was just like anamazing, confident, loving woman
who just gave me really somuch opportunity to do my own thing.
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And when it came time and Ihad my side business that grew to,
you know, like, be way morebeneficial than working full time
for someone, then I just leftjust due to that, because I found
something that I love and thatI'm good at and that I can be of
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service to other people.
And it was kind of, you know,high, high abundance.
Oh, my God.
I didn't even expect it to bethat amazing.
The scaling that took a littlemore planning.
But really, I feel like lifeis still full of opportunity.
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You really have to just makesure that you're ready for it.
And like you said, peopledon't even like themselves or people
don't even know what they wantto do.
And I think that's the firstthing that people should know.
What is it that you want to do?
You.
And some people, when, whenthey don't know how to answer that,
that's when I ask, what areyou good at and what do you love
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to do?
Even if it's a hobby, what doyou love to do?
And I sometimes, most of thetime find the correlation between
the two.
And then from my, you know,like, fully seen, so many businesses
come alive through me, with meoffer my expertise of how, how can
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you do this and that?
What are your first steps?
How do we start the plan?
But it's first understandingthat what it is that you want to
do, then obviously when youknow what you want to do, you'll
find those opportunities youdidn't even expect.
Just because you're focused ona specific.
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Goal and that sets you on apath of a passion and purpose when
you think about it.
And I think people get lost inthe, the illusions that life throws
at, at us every single day byall the distractions, especially
living in this day and age, asopposed to, you know, myself growing
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up in the 80s.
And it's so easy to remain inthat comfort zone and that, you know,
humdrum of everyday life thatthey forget about what it is they
really wanted to begin withand they fall into this routine or
get stuck in a rut that theycan't seem to get out of.
I use pothole pitfalls quiteoften because in my talks, because
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you see those big potholes inthe road and you try to avoid them,
which is on the road of life.
But sometimes you fall in oneand you're like, damn, how do I get
out?
How do I do this?
But all it takes is for you tostop and actually reassess your life.
What is it you want?
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What is it that you want the most?
And how did I somehow get sidetracked?
I think a lot of personalreflection is key to change.
I completely, completely agree.
Well said.
Yes.
Yeah.
Very, very well said.
I think that even if we fall.
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Okay.
Which is.
Is something that I thinkwe're programmed to do, by the way,
like, I agreed.
Yeah.
I'm living in one of the mostdangerous, I think, places in the
world.
Really.
And they keep telling us that, right?
Dude, I know.
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Like, I know.
I know where I'm living.
But we have a constant news reminder.
We have constant placesshowing us how dangerous it is all
over the world.
And it would be difficult forme to keep on being so joyful and
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optimistic if I decided, bythe way, decided to look at it.
And sometimes it's inevitable.
But like I said in thebeginning of our conversation, there
is something that I write inmy gratitude notes every morning.
Thank you for choosing joy.
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And it's something that I keepon reminding myself because what
I do focus on, I can attractand I can magnetized.
And I am making sure that thatis what I'm doing.
And so if I fall into a hole,then part of it is learning how to
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get out of that hole.
And maybe the part of gettingout of the hole is something that
I will need for the future notto fall in bigger holes.
Yeah, here's something interesting.
I needed a shower curtain, soI just grabbed whatever one that
I.
That I found, and I ended up.
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I didn't use it as a shower curtain.
It's literally on my wall,sitting right beside me in my office,
and it says, find joy in your journey.
So on this shower curtain,what I've done is I've put pictures
and gifts and cards andmoments of all my travels on my journey
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that I have found joy in.
And I have messages, I havereminders I have met.
I've traveled the world.
I've seen so many people.
I've done so much that this ismy journey.
And this.
On the days that I'm feelingthat I'm not making a difference,
that I'm not feeling very goodpersonally, I look at my wall and
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I read these messages, and Ilook at the happiness and the joy
of the people that I've beengifted to be in the presence of,
and it really gets me out ofmy own rut.
It helps catapult me back ontowhere I need to be and say, all right,
woman, that's enough of that.
Get moving.
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That's amazing.
It's amazing.
And really, if you think aboutit, if you didn't have that.
Right, that journey that youdid, or.
Or it's not the first timethat we fell.
Right.
It's definitely not the firsttime, but the fact of the matter
is that you kept on going.
For you to have this wall, ifyou would have stayed stuck, then.
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Then the wall wouldn't have existed.
That's right.
That's right.
And so, like, I feel like this.
This journey that we all are taking.
And I saw Viola Davis sayingthis with Oprah Winfrey, two of my
favorites, by the way.
And she said, I know that joyand peace are not a destination.
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They're a journey.
And I felt that.
I completely felt that.
And I said, okay, no destination.
Just like a journey.
And that's.
That's.
It's difficult sometimes tothink of it in regards to, like,
where are we going?
And like you said, we're allkind of.
Kind of lost.
So if we all know and we havethat collective feeling of, okay,
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we're all lost, let's help youfind your way.
If we all can do a little bitof, like, helping someone find his
way back home to him, to her,I think that's what we're here for.
So it's.
It's a.
A journey.
We need to exercise the Joygps, essentially, so that we stay
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on track.
Right?
Exactly.
Exactly.
I couldn't have said it better.
Joy gps.
Definitely.
Joy gps.
It's a good one, Shelly.
It's a great one, Shelly.
It's an amazing one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's definitely.
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I'm writing that down.
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In order to win the game oflife, you need to believe that you're
going to win.
If you keep at something longenough, you'll get results.
You need to lay out a reallygood plan.
Don't give in to the thingsthat get you off track, like the
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overthinking Think of theworld as a numbers game.
This is just some of theinsight of Merav Rosenberg.
How many people do we need toreach out to to get what we want
to get that?
Yes, it's a matter of figuringthat out.
The only way you know you'redoing well is by measuring results.
And as soon as you can measurea result, you'll know what works.
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It's the predictable law ofaverages and the analytics of life.
Mayroff teaches this and manyother things to women.
She wants women to know howamazing they truly are and that they
can accomplish what they need.
She teaches the muscle of selfworth and succeeding without sacrifice.
She encourages women to bebrave, bold and ballsy and take charge
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of their dreams.
And to remember there's onlyone you and the qualities that you
bring are the reason you dowhat you do.
Showcase your strengths, neverdownplay them.
Make a list of things you loveto do and a list of the things where
you excel.
That's where the abundancecomes from.
You can determine yourdirection and where you shine.
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You'll find the opportunitiesyou didn't even expect just because
you're focused.
Also, if you don't have a seatat the table, go get your own table.
With over 17 years in digitalmarketing, design and business, Mehrov's
mission is clear.
To show women they're enoughjust as they are.
She's got some incredible insight.
I especially love herinterpretation of the joy journey.
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And to help people find theirway, she heads us in the right direction.
That's why I mentioned a joy gps.
I don't know what made methink of that.
But Mehrov does provide theGPS for Joy with everything she's
doing.
Don't you think so too, Mehrov?
It's so, it's so important.
But how do you find.
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By the way, just like a sidenote, how do you find joy on gps?
I don't know.
We need to create it.
No, you need to even write it down.
Right.
You need to know that that'swhat you're looking for.
Then you need to place it onthe GPS that like GPS take me to
see to the place where youthink I need to go.
No, no.
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And most people, I like thatit's like, okay, like life will.
No, no, no.
You need to know where youwant to go.
And so having said that couldenjoy in your gps, put it in, make
sure that that's on your listof goals.
And I, I promise you it's notin like 90% of the people on their
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GBS.
You know that perspectivewould so improve the world, wouldn't
it?
We get rid of a lot of angrynegative people if they could find
the joy that's naturallywithin themselves.
Yeah.
It's our birth given right.
I think to be joyful.
And I think we're programmedto totally different by so many reasons.
So, so, so many reasons reallyto, to place instead of like peace
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and instead of like joy andinstead of love, fear.
And I think that we should, weshould just be acknowledging this,
that there is a whole spectrumbetween fear and love and everything
that's in between.
And if you're too fearful,then you're not trusting enough that
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everything will be okay.
And that happens for a reason,by the way.
It happens for a reason.
It happens from your life events.
Like I said, you always haveto be mindful to choose joy.
And also I think one of thethings that I would have loved that
someone would have told meearly on, hi, life isn't easy.
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It's not supposed to be easy.
Go.
It's supposed to be joyful.
It's not supposed to be easy.
Go live your life.
I wish someone would have toldme that because I think my interpretation
of like life is supposed to beamazing for me and then finding out
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that it's not was more devastating.
Yeah.
And as soon as you figure thatout that then, then life gets better
because okay, that's fine.
It doesn't have to be easy.
I have to work for it.
But if I work for it, thenthings, great things will happen.
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If I choose joy, I work for mywant, need goal, then that would
be amazing.
I think where it really.
I've been to India twice inthe last year and I felt that they
don't even know what to ask for.
They do not have theprivileges that we do to ask for
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what we know how to ask for.
It was a very spiritualawakening for me to understand how
other people live, how, howsome poverty is like unbelievable.
And it gave me again anothersense of gratitude, of like, oh my
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God.
Yeah.
I went to India in 2018 andsame thing.
I was in Delhi for a week andI was just shell shocked.
I was just like, oh my gosh.
Right.
Just.
Yeah, it was very much an eye opener.
Yeah.
And Delhi is a main city.
I've been to places that arenot and like people living in tents
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on it was.
It was crazy.
It was crazy seeing that.
And I love seeing other placeswhere I can get a perspective of
how you can find joy.
And.
And I've also been to Bhutanwhere that is supposed to be happy
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nation.
And, and what it is is that Ithink they have less demands, less
desires and I don't know.
And I think maybe they're morein the present moment.
Like we started with the bookthe Power of Now that I'm reading.
And I think that's the, that'swhat we're supposed to be doing.
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I think that's what we'resupposed to be doing kind of setting
a plan to have a place wherewe can be present.
So yes, we do need money inthis lifetime.
And by the way, love, money,love, love.
And why do I love it?
It's just because I know whatit gets me.
It gets me to have many adventures.
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It gets to have my designerbags that I love.
It gets to have my beautifulapartment and decorating it the way
that I want every single time.
Travel with my kids, travelwith my husband.
And these are the things that I'm.
I am wanting to get from.
For money.
And so as soon as you have.
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That's another thing.
As soon as you have kind of agoal of what is the money going to
be for, then it should arrive.
If you do everything that youneed with the plan and where you
want to go and what you wantto do.
And it gets really easy whenyou plan it out, or at least it did
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for me and every client that Iwork with.
It just gets Easy.
A matter of a roadmap.
I love your perspectives, Merav.
Talking about joy and beingballsy, which is necessary.
You got to have that.
What Testicular fortitude onlycome from a female perspective, which
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is more powerful.
Powerful as far as I'mconcerned and getting over the fear
of taking the risk.
And when you talk about themuscle of self worth and succeeding
without sacrifice andbelieving in resilience and adaptability,
you have that on your website.
It's the keys to thriving inboth personal and professional lives.
Your perspectives are amazing.
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Just wondering, do you have acouple nuggets we could leave with
our listeners for them tothink about to set them on this course?
Because you're changing theworld, Mehrav.
I love this.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I think we're all changing theworld little by little.
Hopefully, you know, we get toas many people as we can.
I think the first things thatI would want to leave you with is
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follow, follow, really followpeople who you feel you want to see
yourself becoming.
What do I mean by that?
I think that, like I said, weare programmed.
And this isn't something thatI am just talking about, it's something
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that I actually see happening.
Right.
We have been programmed to bein fear.
Whether it's when living in acountry with war, whether we're living
in a country without women'srights, whether we're living in a
country where we're less paid,it doesn't really matter.
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But we have a choice.
We have a choice to followdifferent people.
Whether it's on Instagram.
If you have someone you lookup to follow them.
If you see someone who doesn'tignite love and happiness, unfollow.
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And if you can't unfollow,then mute.
Right?
This is, this is what we see.
Probably, I don't know, mostlyfive to 10 hours a day, we scroll,
we use digital marketing.
This is my job, so I know thisvery well.
And what I'm saying is thepeople that you actually see and
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follow, those are the peoplewho are creating your reality.
So follow the right people.
That would be the mostimportant thing that I want to say.
The second thing is as soon asyou follow someone different, you'll
see that they have a certainset of values.
And that brings me to thechoosing joy portion of it.
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Hopefully you'll choose peopleto follow that are choosing joy and
that want to help you be abetter person, be a better self,
love yourself more, have moreself worth.
So when you find that, justmake sure that you listen to what
they say and then choose Joywould be the first thing that I would
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want to say.
Even if you don't believe ityet, choose it.
Choose it with all your heart.
Just choose.
You want joy in your life,you'll see more opportunities for
that joy to come to life assoon as you choose it.
And then I'm not just sayingchoose it.
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I'm saying, okay, now we'replanning it.
What will make you happy?
Try and think of all the things.
It doesn't have to come to youimmediately, but you have to make
sure you think about it.
The other thing you asked mein the beginning of our conversation,
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how to say my name and what it meant.
And like I, I, I told you,merav in Hebrew in the Bible means
abundance.
I didn't even know that.
I figured that along.
It took me a long time.
Although the name and what itmeans in Hebrew is a lot and that
actually means abundance.
And I guess I came to showpeople that abundant is in everything
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that you see.
The first thing that I doevery morning and that I, I, I have
to say has changed my life issay thank you.
I do at least 20, 25 thankyous each morning.
Sometimes when it's hot, Ithink the air conditioner, because
a lot of people don't have that.
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And sometimes I think coffee, obviously.
I think my, my children beinghealthy and my, my beautiful, beautiful
fiance.
And I think the, the trivialthings, I think flowers, I think
the fact that I have abeautiful view and it's a sunny day
and that the sun is out andthat the weather is beautiful.
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And I think that I have anamazing brain and that I have amazing
clients and I think everythinghumanly possible in that situation.
I take the time in the morningwith my great cup of coffee that
I thank for and, and givethanks to everything, everything
that I see.
And I feel like if, if youstart off with something, it could
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be like, my nails are amazing today.
Really, it has, it could bethe smallest, teeniest thing that
you see and that you woke upin the morning healthy and that you're
breathing and it could go upto obviously more, more deeper, amazing
things and you'll see itgetting bigger and bigger the more
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that you go.
And so if you choose joy, ifyou do your thank yous in the morning
and have a plan of what it isthat, that you want to do and how
you're going to get there andif you don't know how to do two of
those things right, making aplan and how you want to get there,
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Then I always, alwaysrecommend getting a mentor.
Someone who is where you wantto get to.
That's where you're going.
Okay.
And it could change every timeyou surpass what you got to.
Okay.
Sometimes the studentsurpasses the teacher, which is amazing.
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Okay.
And I love seeing that.
I love seeing that.
And so if you can find amentor to help you set out a plan
to get what you want, this isafter choosing joy and being thankful
for the things that youalready have because you already
have so much.
I think those are, are themain ingredients to get a life of
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abundance, to be more ballsy,to have way higher self worth and
ultimately love yourself somuch that you're so full that you
can share this love with other people.
Well said, Neyrov.
That's profound.
I love it.
Thank you.
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Thank you.
Merav.
Where do people reach out to you?
So they can reach me throughmy website, obviously, which is either
it's mehravrosenberg.com orthey can go to Paz Agency, where
that's obviously my digitalmarketing agency, where we do so
many branding and web designsand help people showcase who they
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are online in the best waypossible so that they can, you know,
get their goals met as soon asthey possibly can.
So when they make that choiceof joy, when they make that choice
of making a plan, I am the onewho is here to help them implement
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it.
Excellent.
And your first name is spelledM E I R A V.
For those that are looking upyour, your website, we'll have that
in the show notes as well.
Thank you so much.
It really was such a pleasurespeaking to both of you and thank
you for having me on the show.
Yes, thank you.
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We really appreciate it.
Mehrav, it's been an honor.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
And hopefully we did some good.
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Have you ever just wanted togo for it without any hesitation
and just pursue that dream ofyours with no regrets?
Merav Rosenberg spends hertime showing women how.
She's a highly sought afterconsultant and speaker who teaches
women how to be brave, boldand ballsy.
How women can grow a pair andtake charge of their dreams.
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She talks about the muscle ofself worth and succeeding without
sacrifice.
Merav has proven she knows how.
She spent over 17 years indigital marketing, design and business.
She's the founder and CEO ofthe Paz Agency and Paas Interactive
where she works with clientsthat range from health and wellness
to real estate to nonprofits.
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She helps them unlock theirpotential and digital presence.
Merav brings an energy andinspiration to everything she touches.
We have the honor of havingher on the show with us to hear some
of her insights.
Welcome, Merov.
Thank you for being with us.
Thank you so much for having me.
Shelly and Kathy, I'm very,very happy to be here and thank you
(01:49):
for doing all this amazing work.
Well, thank you.
And we're excited.
Oh my goodness.
Merav, you know, you've gotsome serious perspectives.
We want to know more aboutwhat has driven you to evolve the
way you have.
I mean, this is super impressive.
Tell us about yourself.
So I'm 42 and I think it's animportant part because I have two
(02:10):
16 year olds, twins, boy and agirl, where I think is very, very
challenging.
And I'm enjoying my time.
Alas, at this time, I have a10 year old.
I think that I've alwayswanted to be a mother.
And I was born in Israel.
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I was religious, Jewish,religious, Orthodox, living in Jerusalem.
And at a very young age, myfather, who was a diplomat from the
Ministry of Finance, gotrelocated to New York City.
So from Little Israel, wemoved to New York City when I was
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7, did not know anybody andobviously it was an amazing experience.
However, my father died in atragic car accident when I was 10.
Oh, so sorry.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I think as a child learningthat, you know, your father will
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not be in your life Anymorehad triggered something in me.
And I really feel like thatwas the first time probably where
you.
You are old enough to make a choice.
You're old enough to make achoice, whether it is that you are
going to take this tragedy andreally be a victim and say, oh my
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God, this happened to me, orthat you can take a tragedy like
this and say, okay, it's verysad what happened, but how do I move
on from this?
And I call this a moment of choice.
I say this a lot in many ofthe things that I have dealt with
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along in my life.
But there is a moment wheresomething really big happens.
And today I don't even call itbad or good, but something happens,
and then you have a choice.
You have a choice to choose.
Joy.
Whatever the problem was,whatever happened to you, you still
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have a choice.
Will it be difficult?
Yes.
Will it be sad?
Oh, my God.
And it never, I think, endsbeing sad, but I think that you have
a choice.
And when we talked about thefact that, you know, ballsy, I think
it's unfortunately a manlyterm, but it's kind of okay.
(04:51):
Being a person that choosesvery easily is a trait that most
people give to men.
Yes, ma'am.
Men choose easier than women usually.
So I think, like, from a veryyoung age, I knew that I had to make
choices.
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I knew that I had to makedecisions, and that's what we did.
And I think I've always seenmy mom as.
As someone who also makesdecisions very easily, is someone
who has always been a career woman.
And I did see that, you know,you have a lot of strength for making
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your own choices.
And so at that point of time,I think that's when I realized that
there is a difference betweenwhat you choose and what you get
to have in your life whenmaking choices like that.
Why do you think men makechoices more easily than women?
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Well, I think initiallythey're giving more confidence than
women since, like, forever.
You know, Like, I really feelthat if we look at history, right,
and if we have stories in ourmind that we do, then we can definitely
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see that men are given more responsibility.
I mean, look at America.
If there ever is a choicebetween a man and a woman, it doesn't
really matter who it will be.
They usually choose men.
And I think that choice givenover and over and over again does.
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Cause I think self confidencewith every woman, especially with
women who are raising women.
Very true.
And you know, even if it isn'ttalked about, it's this underlying
knowledge or thought, thecultural inclination to favor Men,
I mean, as a little girl,girls see this, you know, it's.
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It's all conditioned, isn't it?
It is conditioned.
And I think that I must sayabout me that the power does not
interest me.
I'm not a very competitive person.
I'm more friendly, loving,want a lot of people to be happy,
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kind of a healer, serviceprovider person.
And I think that power doesnot interest me at all.
It doesn't make me tick.
It doesn't.
And I think that menspecifically do have that kind of
sense and with that kind oftake that power in their hands.
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And I think we just somehowduring history, we gave it to them.
I don't know how.
I don't know how.
But we did.
But we did.
Yes.
Very patriarchal.
Patron.
Linear, if you will.
Exactly.
Yep.
And I think that this is our time.
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Amen to that.
So do we.
Onward, onward we ride, Right?
Absolutely.
So you were able Merov, youhad some serious tragedy at a very
early age.
And going from Israel to ahuge city like New York City.
Oh my.
You really had to adapt.
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Do you think that that helpedmaybe galvanize your goals and give
you the strength you needed?
I think.
And I did the same thing, likefor my children as well, opening
up Paz Agency in New York.
I took.
We.
Obviously after my dad'stragedy, we did move back to Israel.
And I spent many of mychildhood and adulthood in Israel,
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finding my ex husband andhaving three kids here.
And then I thought to myselfthat the experience of relocating
to such an amazing, amazing city.
And I always say this, I saythis to my new fiance.
I say to him, listen, I loveyou, okay?
(09:17):
Right after my children.
And then it's New York andthen it's chatgpt.
Just so that you know that Ihave like this order and really like
now, like I have a new obsession.
ChatGPT.
But it was New York beforeand, and tomorrow, my love, he's.
He's before those.
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But I actually love New Yorkso much and I fell in love with it
as a child and I always say itwas, it was kind of.
I don't know how it's.
Either you love New York or you.
Or you're like.
Or you don't.
But when you love New York,it's like.
It's like you're cheating.
I.
I really feel that way becauseit's such a.
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It's.
It's.
It's so infatuating.
And that's what I felt as a child.
It was you being in a.
In a place where, wherethere's so many opportunities and
so many choices.
And I love that.
I love having many choices andI love having opportunities.
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And I think finding that froma small, small, tiny country and
you know, even, even beingEnglish is my second language, right?
Hebrew is my first language.
And English is, is a main keyto, to, I think, success, especially
when you come from such likeour country is like 9 million people.
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That's it.
And so going into a place withlike 300, 400 million people, right?
It's the opportunities multiply.
And I've always been a numbers game.
My father is in economic andI've always been into numbers.
And so you really have to giveyourself as many opportunities as
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you can.
And I think that's what NewYork symbolizes to me.
And then I took my ex husbandand three kids with me on.
On a journey to New York.
And I think that they aredifferent people due to that because
the adaptation.
And I think that's what weall, by the way, need, right?
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I mean, how do you succeed in life?
The way that you are flexiblein your mind, the ways that you adapt
to situations and problems and.
Yeah, so from a very youngage, I had that kind of lesson, you
know, of adapting, adapting tothis, adapting to tragedy, adapting
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to change.
So much change in my life hasoccurred, and I feel like this has
given me optimism.
You have some really seriouswisdom for 42.
A lot of people at 42 stillreally don't know what they want
to do when they grow up.
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And the fact that you sawopportunity at such a young age,
you saw a whole new world.
You knew there was more outthere, there was more potential,
more opportunities.
And the fact that you wereable to grasp it, that took bravery,
tenacity, all of the above.
And I love what you're doingin terms of showing women they can
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do it too.
And I love brave, bold and ballsy.
I mean, it really.
This is powerful.
How women can grow a pair andtake charge of their dreams.
How do they do that?
I think there is a kind of a plan.
And like I said, I'm a numbers woman.
Okay.
Like, I love.
I think that digitalmarketing, by the way, is a numbers
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game.
I mean, sales is a numbers game.
I feel like we're all likethis whole world is.
Is math okay?
And that's like a very, veryspiritual level.
But I feel like we're all justplaying a numbers game.
And, and having said that,yes, numbers is kind of a man or
(13:19):
a male quality, I believe.
And as soon as you tap in tounderstanding that this Is just a
numbers game.
Meaning, let's give an example.
Okay?
If you are afraid ofrejection, which all of us are, all
of us are afraid of rejection.
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But if you're a person that'safraid of rejection, all you have
to do is think of it.
In regards to numbers, if youhave, I would say 10, like, I help
people, especially, obviouslywomen date, okay?
It's, it's not something thatI do professionally, but because
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I took 60 dates to find myfiance on apps, okay, Which a lot
of people hate doing and a lotof people are afraid of rejection.
I usually come up to a ladyand I ask her, listen, out of 10
men that you dated, how manysaid no to you and how many have
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you said no to them?
And the numbers are almostalways the same.
Probably eight of the men thatshe said no to and two said no to
her.
And so if you think of it inregards to numbers, wait, did I actually
just get rejected or is thislike a normal part of life and it's
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just a numbers game?
And the way that I look atlife is just, okay, I'm gonna try
and do this.
I'm gonna see what comes outof it.
I'm not attached to the resultof it.
I won't be disappointed or heartbroken.
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And I think that's more of aman or a male quality.
And that's why I say ballsy.
And I also have like a verygreat laid out plan of how I do things.
And I think that takes away ofall my thinking that it won't work.
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I just have a plan.
I have an Excel sheet, I havea Word document, I have a task list,
and I just go by the plan, plan.
And if you go by the plan andyou take away, I think the kind of,
you know, like feeling of, oh,my God, I'm going to like fail or
(15:53):
get rejected, then everythingwill work out amazingly.
And if you try that threetimes, I'm sure it's going to be
a method for you as well.
And I'm sure, absolutely surethat you're going to see results
from what you just did.
So that's kind of my, my wayof thinking how I actually help women
(16:17):
implement this is by actuallygiving them out the plan, but this
is by, by having to build abusiness or two, having to do like
a US Visa for my, my agency,having so many business plans done
for other people.
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It was super easy for me tosay, okay, what's your goal?
And let's take away the fearof rejection of that goal, and let's
have a plan so you think lessabout the rejection.
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Mayrov Rosenberg believes thatresilience and adaptability are the
keys to thriving in both ourpersonal and professional lives.
She learned to adapt as achild following the tragic loss of
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her father.
She learned choices anddecisions must be made.
It's up to you if you decideto be a victim or you take a tragedy
and say, it's sad, but how doI move on from this?
A moment of choice is whatMayroff calls this.
Something happens and you havea choice to choose joy.
She believes in choosing joyno matter what.
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How you succeed in life is howyou adapt to situations.
It's all a numbers game.
You need to Analyze your riskand lay out your plan to win.
If you go by your plan, you'llsee results.
Determine your goal and removethe fear of rejection of that goal.
Create a plan where you thinkless about the rejection and you'll
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get where you want to go.
Mehrov is a highly soughtafter consultant and speaker who
teaches women how to be brave,bold and ballsy.
She gives them back their power.
She's the founder and CEO ofthe Paz Agency and Paas Interactive
where she works with clientsthat range from health and wellness
to real estate and nonprofits.
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She helps businesses unlocktheir potential and digital presence.
With over 17 years of digitalmarketing, design and business, Merov's
mission is clear.
To show women they're enoughjust as they are.
We're enjoying her powerful insights.
Mayroff, your detail aboutmaking a plan makes so much sense.
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It puts us in a more logical mindset.
We rule with our head, not our heart.
Because a lot of times if youtake things emotionally, you're gonna
be discouraged.
Like you were talking about rejection.
If you look at it as a game ofodds, a game of numbers, you keep
at something, eventually it'sgonna be your turn, right?
(20:58):
You're gonna win, you're gonnawin, you're gonna win.
But you also have to believethat you're gonna win.
And I think that that's themost difficult part.
But like I said, the, thethings that take you back are the
overthinking, which istotally, totally figureoutable by
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a really good laid plan.
And like I said, if you thinkof the world as a numbers game, I
think that you would understand.
Like, I have this client,she's a sales, a.
She's like a sales expert.
And she said, I used to workin Australia, right in the carts.
And I, I would, I would writedown like how many people said no
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to me and how many people saidyes to me.
So it came to like a placewhere in the beginning it was one
out of six.
So what I thought to myself,all I need to get is another six
to have another sale.
So this is exactly, I think,how we should think of life.
It's just how many people do Ineed to reach out to in order to
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get what I want?
And you don't know thosenumbers initially, but as soon as
one says yes to you, then youhave kind of an understanding.
And I got this, by the way,from the digital marketing world
that I do.
I do so many sponsored ads forso many clients, whether it's Facebook
(22:30):
or Instagram or Google.
And the only Way that you knowif you're doing well is by measuring
results.
Yep.
Yep.
And.
And as soon as you measure aresult, I mean, you're not attached
to a creative banner.
I have 20 creative bannersthat I do for each campaign.
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I don't care if one succeedsand one doesn't.
I just want to know what works.
Sure.
Yeah.
And.
And I feel like, again, thisis unfortunately kind of a ballsy
aspect of it, but I had tolearn very quickly on.
To be ballsy.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well.
And to open an agency in NewYork City.
That's a very competitive town.
It is.
But I remember everyone askingme, so why are you going to be different?
And I said, well, because I'm me.
And I think that's another.
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You came to.
I think the most importantpart of what I do for women, and
I think for.
And this is for women, but Ithink for all.
But women need.
Need more help in, In.
In understanding how specialthey really, really are.
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I feel like we're like themost special race.
Like, really, seriously.
It's.
It's.
We're.
We're amazing.
We're absolutely amazing.
I think so, too.
We bring a lot to the table.
We really sure do.
You bring light to the table.
Okay.
Literally.
And.
And I feel like we're super,super special.
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And what I really.
This is exactly what I saidwhen I was interviewed for getting
a US Visa.
Right.
With my business.
And she asked me there.
It's.
It's very competitive what you do.
There's so many people in yourfield, and I always say you do not
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have to be even the best, butyou do have to be the nicest.
One of my, My, My kind ofmindset, how I work.
But also I said, but there'sonly one me.
And I think this is the mainthing that I tell every woman.
There's only one you.
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There will never, ever beanyone like you, Shelley, and anyone
like you, Kathy, in the wholeentire universe, ever, ever, ever.
And the qualities that youbring in to what you do is the reason
that you do what you do.
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And I feel like purpose is.
Is.
Is supposed to be easily obtained.
If you're good at something,then there's a reason for.
For it.
And don't, like, downplay it,you know, like showcase it.
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Make sure that peopleunderstand that that is what you
love to do and, And.
And tell everybody about it.
And that's what's going tomake you understand who you really
are.
What do you say to a woman whosays, I, I want to do this, but in
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My particular career field,it's male dominated and the glass
ceiling is really thick.
Um, change locations, change a job.
I really would say that.
I know that is super ballsy,but I feel like if someone says that
they're not hurting enough.
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The reason why I have anagency is because me and my ex husband
had a very difficult relationship.
It wasn't, it wasn't a greatone starting out.
And I at when my twins werethree months old, I was obviously
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on maternity leave and Icouldn't go back to the job that
I did because I did want totake care of them and I needed to
find a different one.
But it was, we had a very,very bad relationship at the time
and having twins did not, Ithink, help that even more.
But I was in love with mychildren and I knew that I needed
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to be financially independentand so I started working in the mornings
and at nights just to have thefinancial freedom that I needed.
And I think that you couldalways go and do better if you know
(27:30):
what you want to do.
So if you have an example,that would be an amazing thing to
talk about.
But as for women having somany options, and this is me speaking
out of my digital marketingkind of expertise, right.
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I have seen so many differentwomen entrepreneurs.
Whether it's interior design,whether it's hr, whether it's female
oriented, anything, Ecommerce, stores, cbd, whatever.
I have seen it all.
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And I feel like a lot ofpeople don't know how many options
are out there, how many hybridjobs there are out there, how many
people need the expertise thatyou don't even appreciate about you.
And so what I would do is makea list, a list of all the things
that I love to do and a listof all the things that I'm good at,
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by the way.
They don't have to be, youknow, like the same at all.
But I feel like when you goand find something that you're also
good at but also love to do,that's where the abundance comes
from.
That makes sense.
I think a lot of people have ahard time identifying that.
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Even if you ask somebody whatdo you like about yourself?
It's amazing.
Especially women hold thoseshy back, they don't want to, they
feel like it's bragging andyou gotta like yourself first.
Wow.
This is a story about mylittle girl.
She's going to be 10 tomorrow actually.
But probably a year ago, afterI started healing myself and on a
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spiritual journey, she came upto me and we used to do five good
things before she went to sleep.
Meaning every night before shewent to sleep.
And this is due to me pickingher up from school, I think in first
grade.
And she's saying everythingwas boring.
I said, no, no, no, no, we'rechanging this.
You're not telling meeverything is boring.
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Life is amazing, and you'regoing to find out how much.
And every night we started todo five good things before she went
to sleep.
And one night, and I alwaysstarted because she always wanted
me to start.
And one night I said, well, Iworked out in the morning, I ate
very well today, very healthy.
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I said to her, I had a greatmeeting with an amazing new client.
And then at number four, Isaid, and I love myself.
And then she says, mom, you'resupposed to love me.
And I said, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait, wait.
Mom has made a huge mistake.
I have to explain to yousomething before you love me, you
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love you.
Before I love you, I love me.
And this is right when you goon a plane and there's this.
The, the flight attendant isexplaining what happens in case of
an emergency, right.
If the oxygen masks comesdown, who does she say?
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That you have to put it on first.
Yourself.
Certainly like in the case ofa parent, you put it on yourself
first so you can help your child.
Yeah, exactly.
And this is exactly the same analogy.
You have to love yourself first.
Otherwise how are you going tolove everybody else?
And how are you going to havethe space?
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How are you going to have the,the how do you know?
It's like Oprah saying, be sofull of yourself that you're overflowing.
Right?
And what she means is that youhave to love yourself because when
you're full and full of love,full of your self love, then all
you want to do is loveeverybody else.
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That's true.
And there's, and there'sobviously the other side of it, right?
When, when you don't have selflove and you're hurting, what do
you do?
Most people that are hurt?
Those are the people that hurt others.
Yeah.
Not the people who love themselves.
Definitely not the people wholove themselves.
They're not the one who do the hurting.
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And so one of the things thatI would love it is if we teach our
children and if we teach, youknow, kids at school that self love
is the most important thing.
It's the most important thing.
With this we can, we can do so much.
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And I think like you askedabout a person who is in a place
where is male dominated.
Like, like if you don't have aseat in the table, then Go get a
different table.
I like that.
Thank you.
Yeah, me too.
That's a great slogan.
Thank you.
I think I've heard itsomewhere, so I'm not taking all
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the.
But I don't remember where.
But it's a.
It's an amazing.
It's an amazing phrase.
If you don't have a seat atthe table, go get your own table.
And I think I did not do thisstarting out.
I had an amazing woman boss,which is still one of my best friends.
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Starting off when I was amarket marketing director at a theater
hall, that's how I started,kind of my marketing way.
And.
And she was just like anamazing, confident, loving woman
who just gave me really somuch opportunity to do my own thing.
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And when it came time and Ihad my side business that grew to,
you know, like, be way morebeneficial than working full time
for someone, then I just leftjust due to that, because I found
something that I love and thatI'm good at and that I can be of
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service to other people.
And it was kind of, you know,high, high abundance.
Oh, my God.
I didn't even expect it to bethat amazing.
The scaling that took a littlemore planning.
But really, I feel like lifeis still full of opportunity.
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You really have to just makesure that you're ready for it.
And like you said, peopledon't even like themselves or people
don't even know what they wantto do.
And I think that's the firstthing that people should know.
What is it that you want to do?
You.
And some people, when, whenthey don't know how to answer that,
that's when I ask, what areyou good at and what do you love
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to do?
Even if it's a hobby, what doyou love to do?
And I sometimes, most of thetime find the correlation between
the two.
And then from my, you know,like, fully seen, so many businesses
come alive through me, with meoffer my expertise of how, how can
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you do this and that?
What are your first steps?
How do we start the plan?
But it's first understandingthat what it is that you want to
do, then obviously when youknow what you want to do, you'll
find those opportunities youdidn't even expect.
Just because you're focused ona specific.
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Goal and that sets you on apath of a passion and purpose when
you think about it.
And I think people get lost inthe, the illusions that life throws
at, at us every single day byall the distractions, especially
living in this day and age, asopposed to, you know, myself growing
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up in the 80s.
And it's so easy to remain inthat comfort zone and that, you know,
humdrum of everyday life thatthey forget about what it is they
really wanted to begin withand they fall into this routine or
get stuck in a rut that theycan't seem to get out of.
I use pothole pitfalls quiteoften because in my talks, because
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you see those big potholes inthe road and you try to avoid them,
which is on the road of life.
But sometimes you fall in oneand you're like, damn, how do I get
out?
How do I do this?
But all it takes is for you tostop and actually reassess your life.
What is it you want?
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What is it that you want the most?
And how did I somehow get sidetracked?
I think a lot of personalreflection is key to change.
I completely, completely agree.
Well said.
Yes.
Yeah.
Very, very well said.
I think that even if we fall.
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Okay.
Which is.
Is something that I thinkwe're programmed to do, by the way,
like, I agreed.
Yeah.
I'm living in one of the mostdangerous, I think, places in the
world.
Really.
And they keep telling us that, right?
Dude, I know.
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Like, I know.
I know where I'm living.
But we have a constant news reminder.
We have constant placesshowing us how dangerous it is all
over the world.
And it would be difficult forme to keep on being so joyful and
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optimistic if I decided, bythe way, decided to look at it.
And sometimes it's inevitable.
But like I said in thebeginning of our conversation, there
is something that I write inmy gratitude notes every morning.
Thank you for choosing joy.
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And it's something that I keepon reminding myself because what
I do focus on, I can attractand I can magnetized.
And I am making sure that thatis what I'm doing.
And so if I fall into a hole,then part of it is learning how to
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get out of that hole.
And maybe the part of gettingout of the hole is something that
I will need for the future notto fall in bigger holes.
Yeah, here's something interesting.
I needed a shower curtain, soI just grabbed whatever one that
I.
That I found, and I ended up.
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I didn't use it as a shower curtain.
It's literally on my wall,sitting right beside me in my office,
and it says, find joy in your journey.
So on this shower curtain,what I've done is I've put pictures
and gifts and cards andmoments of all my travels on my journey
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that I have found joy in.
And I have messages, I havereminders I have met.
I've traveled the world.
I've seen so many people.
I've done so much that this ismy journey.
And this.
On the days that I'm feelingthat I'm not making a difference,
that I'm not feeling very goodpersonally, I look at my wall and
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I read these messages, and Ilook at the happiness and the joy
of the people that I've beengifted to be in the presence of,
and it really gets me out ofmy own rut.
It helps catapult me back ontowhere I need to be and say, all right,
woman, that's enough of that.
Get moving.
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That's amazing.
It's amazing.
And really, if you think aboutit, if you didn't have that.
Right, that journey that youdid, or.
Or it's not the first timethat we fell.
Right.
It's definitely not the firsttime, but the fact of the matter
is that you kept on going.
For you to have this wall, ifyou would have stayed stuck, then.
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Then the wall wouldn't have existed.
That's right.
That's right.
And so, like, I feel like this.
This journey that we all are taking.
And I saw Viola Davis sayingthis with Oprah Winfrey, two of my
favorites, by the way.
And she said, I know that joyand peace are not a destination.
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They're a journey.
And I felt that.
I completely felt that.
And I said, okay, no destination.
Just like a journey.
And that's.
That's.
It's difficult sometimes tothink of it in regards to, like,
where are we going?
And like you said, we're allkind of.
Kind of lost.
So if we all know and we havethat collective feeling of, okay,
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we're all lost, let's help youfind your way.
If we all can do a little bitof, like, helping someone find his
way back home to him, to her,I think that's what we're here for.
So it's.
It's a.
A journey.
We need to exercise the Joygps, essentially, so that we stay
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on track.
Right?
Exactly.
Exactly.
I couldn't have said it better.
Joy gps.
Definitely.
Joy gps.
It's a good one, Shelly.
It's a great one, Shelly.
It's an amazing one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's definitely.
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In order to win the game oflife, you need to believe that you're
going to win.
If you keep at something longenough, you'll get results.
You need to lay out a reallygood plan.
Don't give in to the thingsthat get you off track, like the
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overthinking Think of theworld as a numbers game.
This is just some of theinsight of Merav Rosenberg.
How many people do we need toreach out to to get what we want
to get that?
Yes, it's a matter of figuringthat out.
The only way you know you'redoing well is by measuring results.
And as soon as you can measurea result, you'll know what works.
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It's the predictable law ofaverages and the analytics of life.
Mayroff teaches this and manyother things to women.
She wants women to know howamazing they truly are and that they
can accomplish what they need.
She teaches the muscle of selfworth and succeeding without sacrifice.
She encourages women to bebrave, bold and ballsy and take charge
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of their dreams.
And to remember there's onlyone you and the qualities that you
bring are the reason you dowhat you do.
Showcase your strengths, neverdownplay them.
Make a list of things you loveto do and a list of the things where
you excel.
That's where the abundancecomes from.
You can determine yourdirection and where you shine.
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You'll find the opportunitiesyou didn't even expect just because
you're focused.
Also, if you don't have a seatat the table, go get your own table.
With over 17 years in digitalmarketing, design and business, Mehrov's
mission is clear.
To show women they're enoughjust as they are.
She's got some incredible insight.
I especially love herinterpretation of the joy journey.
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And to help people find theirway, she heads us in the right direction.
That's why I mentioned a joy gps.
I don't know what made methink of that.
But Mehrov does provide theGPS for Joy with everything she's
doing.
Don't you think so too, Mehrov?
It's so, it's so important.
But how do you find.
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By the way, just like a sidenote, how do you find joy on gps?
I don't know.
We need to create it.
No, you need to even write it down.
Right.
You need to know that that'swhat you're looking for.
Then you need to place it onthe GPS that like GPS take me to
see to the place where youthink I need to go.
No, no.
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And most people, I like thatit's like, okay, like life will.
No, no, no.
You need to know where youwant to go.
And so having said that couldenjoy in your gps, put it in, make
sure that that's on your listof goals.
And I, I promise you it's notin like 90% of the people on their
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GBS.
You know that perspectivewould so improve the world, wouldn't
it?
We get rid of a lot of angrynegative people if they could find
the joy that's naturallywithin themselves.
Yeah.
It's our birth given right.
I think to be joyful.
And I think we're programmedto totally different by so many reasons.
So, so, so many reasons reallyto, to place instead of like peace
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and instead of like joy andinstead of love, fear.
And I think that we should, weshould just be acknowledging this,
that there is a whole spectrumbetween fear and love and everything
that's in between.
And if you're too fearful,then you're not trusting enough that
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everything will be okay.
And that happens for a reason,by the way.
It happens for a reason.
It happens from your life events.
Like I said, you always haveto be mindful to choose joy.
And also I think one of thethings that I would have loved that
someone would have told meearly on, hi, life isn't easy.
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It's not supposed to be easy.
Go.
It's supposed to be joyful.
It's not supposed to be easy.
Go live your life.
I wish someone would have toldme that because I think my interpretation
of like life is supposed to beamazing for me and then finding out
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that it's not was more devastating.
Yeah.
And as soon as you figure thatout that then, then life gets better
because okay, that's fine.
It doesn't have to be easy.
I have to work for it.
But if I work for it, thenthings, great things will happen.
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If I choose joy, I work for mywant, need goal, then that would
be amazing.
I think where it really.
I've been to India twice inthe last year and I felt that they
don't even know what to ask for.
They do not have theprivileges that we do to ask for
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what we know how to ask for.
It was a very spiritualawakening for me to understand how
other people live, how, howsome poverty is like unbelievable.
And it gave me again anothersense of gratitude, of like, oh my
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God.
Yeah.
I went to India in 2018 andsame thing.
I was in Delhi for a week andI was just shell shocked.
I was just like, oh my gosh.
Right.
Just.
Yeah, it was very much an eye opener.
Yeah.
And Delhi is a main city.
I've been to places that arenot and like people living in tents
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on it was.
It was crazy.
It was crazy seeing that.
And I love seeing other placeswhere I can get a perspective of
how you can find joy.
And.
And I've also been to Bhutanwhere that is supposed to be happy
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nation.
And, and what it is is that Ithink they have less demands, less
desires and I don't know.
And I think maybe they're morein the present moment.
Like we started with the bookthe Power of Now that I'm reading.
And I think that's the, that'swhat we're supposed to be doing.
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I think that's what we'resupposed to be doing kind of setting
a plan to have a place wherewe can be present.
So yes, we do need money inthis lifetime.
And by the way, love, money,love, love.
And why do I love it?
It's just because I know whatit gets me.
It gets me to have many adventures.
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It gets to have my designerbags that I love.
It gets to have my beautifulapartment and decorating it the way
that I want every single time.
Travel with my kids, travelwith my husband.
And these are the things that I'm.
I am wanting to get from.
For money.
And so as soon as you have.
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That's another thing.
As soon as you have kind of agoal of what is the money going to
be for, then it should arrive.
If you do everything that youneed with the plan and where you
want to go and what you wantto do.
And it gets really easy whenyou plan it out, or at least it did
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for me and every client that Iwork with.
It just gets Easy.
A matter of a roadmap.
I love your perspectives, Merav.
Talking about joy and beingballsy, which is necessary.
You got to have that.
What Testicular fortitude onlycome from a female perspective, which
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is more powerful.
Powerful as far as I'mconcerned and getting over the fear
of taking the risk.
And when you talk about themuscle of self worth and succeeding
without sacrifice andbelieving in resilience and adaptability,
you have that on your website.
It's the keys to thriving inboth personal and professional lives.
Your perspectives are amazing.
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Just wondering, do you have acouple nuggets we could leave with
our listeners for them tothink about to set them on this course?
Because you're changing theworld, Mehrav.
I love this.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I think we're all changing theworld little by little.
Hopefully, you know, we get toas many people as we can.
I think the first things thatI would want to leave you with is
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follow, follow, really followpeople who you feel you want to see
yourself becoming.
What do I mean by that?
I think that, like I said, weare programmed.
And this isn't something thatI am just talking about, it's something
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that I actually see happening.
Right.
We have been programmed to bein fear.
Whether it's when living in acountry with war, whether we're living
in a country without women'srights, whether we're living in a
country where we're less paid,it doesn't really matter.
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But we have a choice.
We have a choice to followdifferent people.
Whether it's on Instagram.
If you have someone you lookup to follow them.
If you see someone who doesn'tignite love and happiness, unfollow.
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And if you can't unfollow,then mute.
Right?
This is, this is what we see.
Probably, I don't know, mostlyfive to 10 hours a day, we scroll,
we use digital marketing.
This is my job, so I know thisvery well.
And what I'm saying is thepeople that you actually see and
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follow, those are the peoplewho are creating your reality.
So follow the right people.
That would be the mostimportant thing that I want to say.
The second thing is as soon asyou follow someone different, you'll
see that they have a certainset of values.
And that brings me to thechoosing joy portion of it.
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Hopefully you'll choose peopleto follow that are choosing joy and
that want to help you be abetter person, be a better self,
love yourself more, have moreself worth.
So when you find that, justmake sure that you listen to what
they say and then choose Joywould be the first thing that I would
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want to say.
Even if you don't believe ityet, choose it.
Choose it with all your heart.
Just choose.
You want joy in your life,you'll see more opportunities for
that joy to come to life assoon as you choose it.
And then I'm not just sayingchoose it.
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I'm saying, okay, now we'replanning it.
What will make you happy?
Try and think of all the things.
It doesn't have to come to youimmediately, but you have to make
sure you think about it.
The other thing you asked mein the beginning of our conversation,
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how to say my name and what it meant.
And like I, I, I told you,merav in Hebrew in the Bible means
abundance.
I didn't even know that.
I figured that along.
It took me a long time.
Although the name and what itmeans in Hebrew is a lot and that
actually means abundance.
And I guess I came to showpeople that abundant is in everything
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that you see.
The first thing that I doevery morning and that I, I, I have
to say has changed my life issay thank you.
I do at least 20, 25 thankyous each morning.
Sometimes when it's hot, Ithink the air conditioner, because
a lot of people don't have that.
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And sometimes I think coffee, obviously.
I think my, my children beinghealthy and my, my beautiful, beautiful
fiance.
And I think the, the trivialthings, I think flowers, I think
the fact that I have abeautiful view and it's a sunny day
and that the sun is out andthat the weather is beautiful.
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And I think that I have anamazing brain and that I have amazing
clients and I think everythinghumanly possible in that situation.
I take the time in the morningwith my great cup of coffee that
I thank for and, and givethanks to everything, everything
that I see.
And I feel like if, if youstart off with something, it could
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be like, my nails are amazing today.
Really, it has, it could bethe smallest, teeniest thing that
you see and that you woke upin the morning healthy and that you're
breathing and it could go upto obviously more, more deeper, amazing
things and you'll see itgetting bigger and bigger the more
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that you go.
And so if you choose joy, ifyou do your thank yous in the morning
and have a plan of what it isthat, that you want to do and how
you're going to get there andif you don't know how to do two of
those things right, making aplan and how you want to get there,
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Then I always, alwaysrecommend getting a mentor.
Someone who is where you wantto get to.
That's where you're going.
Okay.
And it could change every timeyou surpass what you got to.
Okay.
Sometimes the studentsurpasses the teacher, which is amazing.
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Okay.
And I love seeing that.
I love seeing that.
And so if you can find amentor to help you set out a plan
to get what you want, this isafter choosing joy and being thankful
for the things that youalready have because you already
have so much.
I think those are, are themain ingredients to get a life of
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abundance, to be more ballsy,to have way higher self worth and
ultimately love yourself somuch that you're so full that you
can share this love with other people.
Well said, Neyrov.
That's profound.
I love it.
Thank you.
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Thank you.
Merav.
Where do people reach out to you?
So they can reach me throughmy website, obviously, which is either
it's mehravrosenberg.com orthey can go to Paz Agency, where
that's obviously my digitalmarketing agency, where we do so
many branding and web designsand help people showcase who they
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are online in the best waypossible so that they can, you know,
get their goals met as soon asthey possibly can.
So when they make that choiceof joy, when they make that choice
of making a plan, I am the onewho is here to help them implement
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it.
Excellent.
And your first name is spelledM E I R A V.
For those that are looking upyour, your website, we'll have that
in the show notes as well.
Thank you so much.
It really was such a pleasurespeaking to both of you and thank
you for having me on the show.
Yes, thank you.
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We really appreciate it.
Mehrav, it's been an honor.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
And hopefully we did some good.
That's really what it's all about.
We hope you've enjoyed thislatest episode.
And if you want to hear moreepisodes of Women Road warriors or
learn more about our show, besure to check out womenroadwarriors.com
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