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July 15, 2025 55 mins

What if aging wasn’t inevitable? Dr. Joy Kong—triple board-certified anti-aging physician and stem cell expert—says you can slow it down and even reverse it. As the founder of Chara Health and Chara Biologics, a global leader in regenerative medicine, she helps people transform their health using the body’s natural intelligence. Dr. Kong founded the American Academy of Integrative Cell Therapy (AAICT) and has trained physicians around the world. She has been named Stem Cell Doctor of the Year and Stem Cell Doctor of the Decade. Her therapies have successfully helped people with degenerative disease, cognitive decline like Alzheimer’s, fertility issues as well as age reversal. Tune into Women Road Warriors with Shelley Johnson and Kathy Tuccaro to discover how science, stem cells, and nature are changing the trajectory of aging.

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(00:01):
This is Women Road warriorswith Shelly.
Johnson and Kathy Tucaro.
From the corporate office tothe cab.
Of a truck, they're here toinspire and empower women in all
professions.
So gear down, sit back and enjoy.

(00:23):
Welcome.
We're an award winning showdinner dedicated to empowering women
in every profession throughinspiring stories and expert insights.
No topics off limits on our show.
We power women on the road tosuccess with expert and celebrity
interviews and information you need.
I'm Shelly and this is Kathy.

(00:44):
Anti aging, regenerativemedicine and good health are all
buzzwords we hear a lot today.
Not everyone understands whatall that is.
Women want to be at the top oftheir game no matter what their age.
And they want to find theright doctor who can assist them.
Dr. Joy Kang is an authorityon the subject of anti aging.
She's a triple board certifiedanti aging physician and stem cell

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specialist.
She's the founder of CharaHealth and Chara Biologics to help
people with everything fromdiet and sleep to skin and fertility.
As a dedicated educator andpioneer in the field of regenerative
medicine, Dr. Kang founded theAmerican Academy of Integrative Cell
Thera, or AAI C T. She'strained numerous physicians from

(01:28):
around the world with manyaccolades including Stem Cell doctor
of the Year and Stem CellDoctor of the decade.
Dr. Kang continues to be arespected figure in the medical community
dedicated to advancing thefield of regenerative medicine and
improving patient outcomesthrough her emphasis on scientific
data, passion, authenticityand integrity.

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Dr. Kang is also the author ofTiger of Beijing which recounts her
remarkable journey as animmigrant from China at the age of
20.
It was named book of the yearby IAOTP in 2020.
Regenerative medicine and antiaging are some things we wanted to
know about.
So we invited Dr. Kang on the show.
Welcome, Dr. Kang.

(02:10):
Thank you for being with us.
Oh, thank you so much forinviting me.
I'm excited for our conversation.
So are we.
Exactly.
Well, I've got a ton of questions.
I know Kathy probably does too.
And you know, Dr. Kong, youare quite the pioneer.
What led you to go into thisfield of medicine and what exactly
is all of this about?
Everybody wants to fight aging.

(02:31):
Is that possible?
Yes, the time it's actuallyhere that we can actually stall the
pace of aging and even, evenreverse it.
And this is the first time inhistory I always said no matter what
you were in the past, youcould get be the most powerful king
or queen in the world.
You could not slow the agingprocess down.

(02:52):
Everybody was going downhill.
And as you saw in theportraits, but they couldn't stop
it.
But now we actually have a chance.
We could probably stop.
You know, I don't know wherethe future goes, but as of the science
now, I'm pretty sure we cansaw the process for about 20, 30
years.
That's not a problem.
So basically keeping a persona youthful state for 20 to 30 years

(03:17):
longer.
Oh, how fabulous is that?
Nice.
I just turned 55, so I'm quite interested.
Yes, yes.
And I started doing my antiaging protocol when I was 45.
So now I'm 53 and I'm prettypublic about it, you know, in my
book Nurse My Birthday.
So my, the, the age I feel nowis becoming less and less relevant

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because we're looking at thebiological age really, how old you
are from, from the inside,instead of what, how many years you've
lived on this earth.
So I, you know, I want toencourage people to look at the aging
from a whole different anglebecause you can age, which means
accumulating years on earthwithout declining biologically.

(04:03):
So you keep in the sameyouthful state for a very, very long
time.
Oh, that's marvelous.
That, that's a, that's a game changer.
You think about it.
It is, yeah.
Yeah.
So when I got into the field,I wasn't thinking, oh, I want to
be young forever.
I mean, that wasn't even on my mind.
I, all I wanted was to feelgood, not get sick.

(04:25):
Right.
Be, be well for a very longtime until the day I have to leave
the earth.
That's really the purpose.
So I wanted to help mypatients to achieve the same.
Because that's the whole pointof becoming a doctor.
Because we're trying to reduce suffering.
So if there are ways that Ican reduce the amount of suffering
by optimizing people's healthso they don't get sick in the first

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place, that'll be the best.
Right.
But even if they get sick, ifwe can understand all those underlying
causes of why they got sick,then we can get them better, much
faster than if you don't knowthe underlying causes.
And that's a problem withconventional medicine, is that they
are not looking at all theunderlying causes because they don't
know.
Because that's not part of theeducation, that's not part of the

(05:11):
philosophy.
The philosophy is to waituntil people get sick and then you
diagnose them and hook themwith drugs which are all tailored
toward diagnoses.
So the whole point is that wewait for you to get sick so we can
diagnose you and Then we cangive you drugs.
And that's something that Iwas not willing to, to, to.

(05:31):
To be kind of a slave to.
You know, a lot of doctors hadbecome disillusioned because they
weren't feeling very helpful.
So if a person comes in andchronic illnesses have skyrocketed,
and if people are coming inwith all these chronic conditions,
Western medicine, traditionalmedicine, are not very well equipped
at looking at chronic conditions.

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Because there are so manycauses, they are great at looking
at acute conditions, trauma,you know, acute infections and injury.
That's all great.
But, but when it comes tosomething chronic, it has become
quite helpless unless you'relooking outside.
So when I first came out ofmedical school, I decided to go into
psychiatry because I love thebrain and understanding how the brain

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works and the psychiatry isthe same thing.
If we're trying to diagnosereducing everybody to depression,
anxiety, schizophrenia,bipolar disorder, then we only have
those medications to give.
That's our toolbox.
But we're not looking at whydoes this person get depressed?
Why?
What are all the causes?
And we were not trained to dothat, not even nutrition.

(06:36):
We all know nutrition plays ahuge role.
We were not equipped to talkabout nutrition.
We know about vitamins,minerals and proteins.
I mean, very rudimentary.
Half an hour of education, itbasically just brushed over.
Okay, okay.
People need to eat healthy.
So traditional route doesn'thave the language for it.

(06:57):
And that's when.
If I wanted to enhance my ownhealth or enhance my patients health,
then I have to look outside ofthe box.
Unfortunately, there's theseburgeoning specialties called anti
aging medicine or functionalmedicine or integrated medicine.
They're all the same thing.
They're looking at many, manycauses that are triggering our decline,

(07:19):
which triggers diseases.
So if we can reverse thoseconditions, then we can get back
to, to true health.
And regenerative medicine,stem cell therapy, that's all part
of it.
It's part of addressing someof the root causes.
Cause of why we decline, getold, get cancer and get sick is because

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we are running out of stem cells.
So if we can replenish thatand we can harness the power of stem
cells, which were actually thecells that made us right from the
first fertilized egg, that wasthe first stem cell.
So we all came from a singlestem cell.
And how did become us?
And go figure.
We don't know exactly how weknow that there's this complex, you

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know, embryology, how a fetusis formed, how we don't know how
the cells know.
So this is a Huge mystery.
And what I'm doing with stemcell therapy is that I'm tapping
into that mystery, thatintelligence, that unbelievable miraculous
intelligence.
Right.
How did it know?
How did it do that?

(08:23):
So I don't know how, butthey're doing it.
We're beginning to understandthe different mechanisms of how the
cells work.
So that's unraveling some ofthe mystery.
But what I know, I do know isthat when I give people these stem
cells, it addresses so many causes.
It addresses break down theirscar tissue, it can enhance the blood

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vessel formation, so enhancingblood supply.
It can calm the immune system,balancing the immune system.
It calms the inflammationdrastically and it tells your local
stem cells to wake up andstart replicating and replenish the
tissue.
Get rid of the bat cells, thecells that don't function well, and
then have the new cells, newtissue to come in place so that you

(09:05):
have new healthy organs.
So these are just a few of themechanisms, but they're, they're,
they're, they're more.
Yeah, so that's, that's kindof the, the background of how I got
into regenerative medicine isreally because the quest for holistic
healing and oh, wow.
This, this is just wow.
I mean I'm just.
Me too.

(09:26):
The only word that comes tomind is wow.
Yeah.
Because I think that, youknow, when looking at Hollywood and
stuff, the only hope we everhad of looking fabulous forever is
to be a vampire.
Oh my goodness.
Yeah.
Actually the vampire facial ispart of regenerative medicine because
you're tapping into yourbody's own healing potential.

(09:47):
Now, now what is that exactly?
A vampire facial?
Really?
That was obtaining a person's blood.
That's where the vampire partcomes in.
Obtaining person's blood.
And you centrifuge it downwhere you can get not the red blood
cells, but the part that'sclear, the plasm.
And within the plasm, aplasma, the, is very rich in PRP

(10:10):
platelets.
So it's platelet rich plasma.
And when you smear that on theface and use microneedling to drive
the, the, these platelet richplasma, which really the platelets
will secrete a lot of growthfactors that triggers your skin to
regenerate.
And then when you domicroneedling, you're disrupting
the skin.
So you're creating a littlebit of injury, controlled injury.

(10:32):
When you control that inj,you're triggering this whole cascade
of signals.
Your body basically screaming,oh my God, I need to fix this.
And then when the new growthfactors, everything is there to help
you fix it.
All of a sudden you can formnew tissue that's healthier.
So that's really tapping intowhat your body can do.
If you just let the wrinklesand, you know, the lesions just sit

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there and they're not going todo anything.
But if you disrupt it and putsome growth factors on there, all
of a sudden the cells canstart to make better tissue.
And now that the wrinkles andyou know, are replaced with, with
good smooth, you know, nicelooking skin.
Yeah.
Wow, that, that's pretty incredible.
Yeah.

(11:14):
I don't think a lot of peopleare familiar with the vampire facial
or treatments and they may go,ooh, that sounds disgusting.
But if it works, you know why.
It looks very bloody.
That's another reason it'scalled vampire facial.
You have something better, youknow, we can do, we can inject stem
cells which is so much morepowerful than just the prp, I call

(11:36):
it PRP on steroid.
So the stem cells will givemuch, much higher level of result
and longer lasting.
Now is that using somebody'sown stem.
Cells, you can do that, youcan use a person's own fat or bone
marrow.
But one thing I've beentalking about in the field is to
let people know of thedifferences between different sources.

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When I first came into thisentire regenerative medicine field,
I was faced with whether ornot I can use a person's own stem
cells or I can go getsomething really young, which are
the birth tissue, so umbilicalcord, placenta, so I can get those
sources, but which one is better?
So I dug really deep intoresearch which resulted in this presentation

(12:20):
I gave in various medicalconferences is called our OMS Created
Equal.
But because the answer is no,they're actually quite different.
When you use your own stemcells, your own stem cells have aged
with you.
Not only has declined in thenumber drastically, but also declined
in quality.
So when you use youngersources, the cells are more potent

(12:44):
and they are actually saferbecause your own cells tends to tell
everything to grow, includingexisting cancer.
But whereas the younger cellshave more of an intelligence to detect
a cancer and then helping yourbody get rid of it, actually sending
signals to tell the cells to die.
So the, even though they'reall called mesenchymal stem cells,

(13:05):
they're all a type of crucialstem cells in your body.
That's everywhere in your, inyour body, but they decrease sharply.
So but if you use theseyounger sources, you're going to
get better results and it'sgoing to be safer for you.
You, you know if you haveconcerns about cancer.
Of course, all of us, we allhave cancer, cancer cells popping
up here and they're just partof life, but your immune system will

(13:26):
get rid of it.
But all of a sudden, if youput in signals that is telling everything
to grow and can overpower oroverride some of the signals from
the immune system, then yes,you can actually get exacerbation.
And that's what differentstudies have shown that there's a
risk of causing promoting cancer.
That may be one of the onlypotential side effects.

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Everything else is pretty muchkind of operator dependent.
Once in a while, maybe thecryopreservatives in the product
can cause a little bit of side effects.
But in general, thesetreatments using nature's intelligence
to heal ourselves is justextraordinarily safe.
Extraordinary.

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What if I told you you couldslow down the aging process or even
start to reverse it?
Sounds futuristic, right?
Well, it's very real.
And Dr. Joy Kong is at theforefront of this breakthrough science.

(16:22):
She's a triple board certifiedanti aging physician, a stem cell
specialist, and the founder ofChara Health and Chara Biologics.
Dr. Kang helps people improveeverything from their sleep and skin
to fertility and overallhealth using cutting edge regenerative
medicine.
With honors like stem celldoctor of the year and doctor of
the decade, she's the realdeal, and we're talking to her.

(16:44):
She's been telling us how allthis works.
Dr. Kang, much of what you'vebeen discussing sounds a lot like
reprogramming the body in many ways.
Well, when you think about it,the body's basically kind of like
a computer program, isn't it?
It's.
Yeah, it's very, very sophisticated.
You want to.
Yeah, it's the DNA that'scontained in the cells is where the

(17:06):
magic comes from.
Because everything the cell'sdoing is directed by the DNA that's
the blueprint.
And the DNA is the most energydense substance in the universe.
So what is energy?
And to me, that really means intelligence.
It's the condensedintelligence and how much more intelligent

(17:27):
it is than any computer we can invent.
I think it's way superior asfar as what we can.
We can grow life.
Let's see if a computer can do that.
Sure.
Now, in terms of the youngerstem cells, I know that that can
be an ethical issue with a lotof people, too.
Can the placenta be used?

(17:49):
Yes.
Yes.
The placenta is usually tossedright when a baby is born.
It's healthy, live birth.
And they cut the cord and thecord and placenta, everything just
tossed in the biological waste basket.
But now we have much moreinformation about what these tissues
contain, that they have someof the most powerful regenerative

(18:12):
elements.
Now, ask the mother, hey, doyou want to save these tissue for
your baby's future?
You know, for, you know, incase your baby gets sick or, you
know, the baby needs it.
I would.
Yeah, a lot of mothers do, butbelieve it or not, 90% of mothers
say, say no because it's very expensive.
It takes a few thousanddollars a year to keep these.

(18:35):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Cells stored in the bank.
So a lot of people say no.
And once they say no, thenthey're Asked if they would like
to donate.
So if they say yes, they haveto go through very stringent, very,
you know, it's a very strictprocess out their own illnesses,
family history of anyconditions, any travel history that

(18:59):
could be exposing them to, youknow, for toxic elements or their
own work history, sexual history.
So everything's screened for.
And then once the tissue isbrought to a lab that process them,
they have to check certaininfectious diseases to make sure

(19:20):
that these are good fortransplantation, because it's as
strict as any organ transplantation.
So.
But it's actually stricter forwhat we do.
So I have a stem cell company.
We manufacture, you know,contract manufacture these products
that I designed, and we makesure that our process is strictest

(19:42):
in the whole industry to avoidany potential risk.
So we screen for things likeLyme disease or Chagas.
And we also do not acceptmothers who've been vaccinated with
the, the COVID vaccine, theMRNA vaccines.
Oh, interesting.
You know, we, we don't knowwhat the potential risks are, and
I'm just not willing to putanybody in that risk, including myself.

(20:05):
I'm using these cells all thetime, every three months.
So I think for everybody'ssafety to be, you know, because we
swore an oath, first do no harm.
And I'm just not willing toput people at risk.
Yeah.
Did anyone tell you today howamazing you are?
Oh, yes, you're super amazing.
And for the listeners whocan't see you, you look like you're

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in your 20s.
I mean, you're beautiful.
And it's just like, I am so appreciative.
Yeah, you know, it was interesting.
I mean, you, you guys, youknow, you've been doing this for
a long time, so you, youwould, you would know what social
media is doing.
It's just so funny.
So as I become more publicabout what I do, my age, etc, and

(20:51):
I've seen people just makingvery mean comments and it's a.
There's a lot, there are a lot of.
They're jealous.
It was funny.
Okay, this is funny.
I'm.
I'm going to do an episodeabout this because I have my own
podcast.
But some, some say, okay, Iwish Dr. Kong is honest about it.
And she obviously has done facelift.

(21:12):
She's done all these things,and she should just come out and
be honest about it.
So I want to invite, I want toinvite people.
Come, you know, pick somebody,your representative.
Come, let's do a live session.
I want you to take a look atmy face, you know, examine everywhere
on my Head, let's look for the.
Scars because they'll be there somewhere.
But it's such a, in a sense,such a compliment because they're

(21:34):
saying it's impossible for youto look the way you look you do without
surgery.
But that's exactly my point.
I'm trying to show people youcan do that now.
You can look naturally radiantand youthful without cutting yourself
up.
Oh, isn't that awesome?
Yeah.
Who wants to go under the knife?
I mean, that's a scary proposition.
Not to mention you're paying alot of money to do it.

(21:56):
Yeah, a lot of money.
And it may not look good, but.
As we see that, don't we?
And some of the celebrities,it's like, who did they go to?
What on earth?
I mean, men and women both.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's my whole point.
I'm trying to show people,hey, you don't have to decline.
I mean, who wants to get olderand older and get, you know, feeling

(22:18):
worse and, and, and lack ofenergy or start to get sick here
and there?
You know, it's, it's, it's tiring.
How about just be well?
You know, that's what I'mshowing you.
But the side effect of beingwell is to look youthful and to feel
really good about how youlook, because a lot of times when
people age, you probably, youknow, you've seen that people look

(22:39):
tired.
Yes, yes.
When they're aging, and they,they said, no, I'm not tired.
But yeah, you look tired oryou look pissed off.
And sometimes the peoplereally are kind of crotchety and
TikTok.

(23:01):
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Welcome back to Women Road.
Warriors with Shelly Johnsonand Kathy Tucaro.
Imagine having the ability toslow or even reverse your body's
aging process.
Dr. Joy Kang is proving it'sentirely possible.
She's a trailblazer inregenerative medicine, a triple board

(24:30):
certified anti agingspecialist, and the founder of both
Chara health and Chara Biologics.
Dr. Kang helps people restoretheir vitality, boosting sleep, skin
health, fertility, and moreusing cutting edge stem cell therapies
and regenerative medicine.
She's trained physiciansworldwide and earned titles like
stem cell doctor of the yearand doctor of the decade.

(24:52):
She taps into the intelligenceof stem cells to reverse aging to
improve health and increase youth.
She's been walking us throughthe process and the possibilities.
So, Dr. Kung, what exactly doyour facilities and your physicians
and charobiologics do?
Are there stem cell injections?
I mean, how does all of this work?
Yeah, so the stem cellinjections at my clinic, that is

(25:16):
definitely a cornerstone ofeverything because without doing
that and seeing firsthand howmany conditions, how many people
I can help, really, thatwouldn't get me the, the incentive
to develop the products andto, to share with other doctors.
So I do a lot of education,I've trained a lot of doctors, and
we, I have also developed astem cell product, you know, a few

(25:39):
of them and to send to doctorsso they can use it for their patients.
But everything started with meproviding treatment.
And I'll just give you an example.
I think, you know, examplesalways speak to people because it's,
well, that's what got meexcited the first time I did stem
cell treatment becauseeverything sounds great.

(26:00):
Oh, stem cells, amazing.
All these potentials.
But does it actually work?
So the very first patient Itreated was 69 years old, and he
was told by two orthopedicsurgeons that he needed bilateral
knee replacement because theywere in such bad shape.
So he was in a lot of pain andhe was very active.
He, he goes to lots of tradeshows and walk around a lot.

(26:24):
And so he did not want to do surgery.
I decided to give him an IVinfusion and also injection into
each knee.
And I, you know, the reason Idid both is because within the knee
joint, which is very large,the outer third of the cartilage
is nourished by the blood supply.
The inner 2/3 is nourished bysynovial fluid.
So you want to attack fromboth angles.

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And what's Interesting was thenext day he said, hey, I slept through
the night and I wasn't wokenup by pain off his shoulder.
So he never told me about hisrotator cuff injury.
And all I was focusing on washis knees.
But he had a bad car accidentwhen he was a teenager, so his rotator

(27:07):
cuff was torn and never fully healed.
So every time he was rollingover, moving, he will be woken up
from the sharp pain, butwithout me touching his shoulder,
not knowing anything about his shoulder.
His shoulder was fine, actually.
Still fine.
This day is fixed.
So I.
But I didn't know about it, right?
So, so I was like, wow, that's amazing.

(27:28):
Right?
And the knees, the knees aredoing great.
So he was walking from, youknow, having a lot of pain, been
really worried to walking fourmiles every day for years.
You know, even now, now he'swhat, 70, should be 77 years old.
And he never had the surgery.
Never.
Still going to a lot of trade shows.
He goes to more trade showsthan anybody I know.

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And, you know, walking milesevery day.
He said, I almost don'trealize I have knees that I don't
even think about it once in a while.
Said when I, when I walkuphill, I feel a little.
No, I think walking downhill,he feels a slight twinge that.
But that's, that's the onlything he notices.
So I saved somebody from kneereplacement surgery, and I was not

(28:14):
an orthopedic surgeon.
Like, who was I who wasactually trained in psychiatry?
Who was I to fix somebody'sknees when his highly trained orthopedic
surgeons have no way ofhelping him that way?
The only way they could thinkof was to cut him up and give him
a new knee.
Oh, yeah, right.
So how would I not be hooked?

(28:35):
How empowering is that for a doctor?
So this can reverse a lot ofconditions, people with degenerative
conditions in their joints, intheir back, all of the different
things.
And does it also have a sidebenefit where you just start looking
really fabulous?
You know, I think that is aside benefit because I didn't know,

(28:58):
you know, when I started doingthe treatment, I was doing it every
three months because I, Iheard for anti aging benefits is
every three to six months.
So, so I did every three months.
I wanted to be a little bitmore proactive.
And within about a year, yeah,a year or so, my neighbor at the
time, she was my neighbor foreight years, she said, joy, what

(29:19):
have you been doing?
You're looking younger and younger.
What's going on?
And not just her that noticedthat, but her mother in law and her
daughter, they all had thesame comment and this.
And to me it was verysurprising because that wasn't why
I did it.
I just wanted feel good.
So the thing is, I don't havethere, there's not enough human studies.

(29:41):
Although people who have doneregular IV stem cells, the few people
I met, they all look fantasticfor their age.
So that, that's, that's onething I know.
But there are animal studies.
Rats and mice, they only livefor about 18 to 20 months.
So they don't live very long.
You can actually conductlongevity studies.
Right.
It's like fast forward for humans.

(30:01):
You can actually see what'sgoing on in these animals.
So when they start to giveanimals these regular IV stem cells,
they realize that animalsconsistent consistently they live
for about 30% longer.
Not just living longer, butthey look, they look better.
Their furs are shinier andmore even their spine is straighter.

(30:22):
They are running around likeyoung mice.
You know, they, they, they,their locomotion is fantastic and
their cognition is betterbecause they, they still remember
how to do the maze and et cetera.
So everything was reverted tothe younger state.
And then when they actuallydis animals, that's, that's like
the nail on the coffin right?
Now we know for sure.
When they dissected theanimals, their muscles and their

(30:45):
brain, every marker theylooked at whether or not it's neurotransmitters,
it's growth factor secretion,or different senescence markers.
Right.
The markers are showing thatthey were declining, they were getting
older, toxic waste buildup,everything was reverted back to the
younger state.
So that's, that's definitive evidence.

(31:06):
Yeah.
You know, and that's whatpeople are looking for.
They want to live longer, butthey want to have a quality of life
because you can live longer.
But if you have a really anawful quality of life, it isn't living.
And that's something peopleare really seeking.
And a lot of people have pain.
Pain is a super big issue thatyou hear about all the time.
I mean obviously you'rehearing advertisements for that.

(31:30):
Yeah.
And actually one of my firstpatients had chronic severe pain.
Years, probably 20, over 20years of severe pain and lots of
tissue injuries.
And he's tried everything andjust was not doing well.
And then I gave him stemcells, very simple IV stem cells.
I didn't do anythingextraordinary, but giving him an

(31:51):
IV infusion and everything wastransformed and then he was ecstatic.
So that just, you know, thecases like this keep piling up and
then you were Asking me whatkind of conditions stem cells are
helping, Basically what I sayis if you're looking at any condition
that has inflammation andtissue damage and immune dysregulation

(32:14):
as part of the problem, stemcells fits right in because those
are the things it excels at.
So any chronic condition willhave inflammation as part of the
problem, including all kinds of.
Equally, includingneurodegenerative conditions.
Right.
One of the toughest diseasesto treat.
But autoimmune issues, immune dysregulation.
My daughter's got reallysevere psoriatic arthritis ever since

(32:37):
the second Covid shot.
And she's 30, but she walkswith a cane.
Oh, my goodness.
Like, it's crazy.
Yeah, it's, it's.
She should definitely givethis a try.
There are studies, There arestudies showing.
That's what I was going to see.
Specifically psoriaticarthritis, but psoriasis in general,
definitely.
It can be incredibly helpful.

(32:59):
So.
So definitely she should givethat a treatment.
Now, where do people get thistreatment and does insurance cover
it?
Of course.
That's.
That's a big question right now.
Very few insurance companieswill cover it.
I don't know if you guys areaware of the entire medical establishment,

(33:20):
how big?
Pharma, drug companies andinsurance companies, they all work
together so that people arekept in this system of disease, drugs,
insurance coverage.
It's a very convenient systemfor the insurance companies and the
drug companies to makeincredible amount of fortune.

(33:42):
I mean, why are insurancecompanies so rich if they're covering
all these expensive drugs?
No, there's subsidies from thegovernment and there are hard discounts
between the drug companies andthe insurance company.
I mean, it's a racket.
It's, it's.
It works so well for them, butnot for the people.
The people are still sick andstuck, and they think that, oh, insurance

(34:03):
doesn't cover it.
So then, then I can't, I can'tdo it because then it's, it's.
It may not be worth it.
Then, you know, the FDA hasnot recognized it.
Okay.
So if you want to stay in thatsystem and suffer, that's definitely
everyone's choice.
But the thing is, the systemhas made it more difficult for people
to jump out of that mindsetthat they think that, oh, I need

(34:25):
insurance to cover my treatment.
Never mind.
If the insurance company'streatment is keeping you sick and
is making you live shorteramount of time with more illness,
but spending lots of moneypaying the insurance company and
paying for the drugs.
A lot of drugs are not cheapat all.
The company are pretty Pretty expensive.
So if you want to be stuck inthat system, that's your choice.

(34:45):
But what I'm seeing is thatmore and more people are really sick
of it.
So they realize, okay, Ispent, you know, a few thousand dollars,
10, whatever at our clinic.
Maybe the most, $20,000.
But it can be transformative.
How much suffering is thatgoing to reduce and how much money
is it going to save you in thelong run?
So people really need to thinkof it.

(35:06):
And some companies, forexample, there's one company with
insurance that they're notreally an insurance company.
It's like a co op.
Is a Christian organizationcalled Samaritan Ministries.
They actually started to coverstem cells.
Oh, okay.
I think.
I think they realize, okay, ifwe just pay for this amount of money

(35:28):
for people to get stem celltreatment, it saves so much money
in the long run.
It really does.
Yeah.
If you, if you can reverse acondition, if you can prevent a condition,
in the end, it's a lot cheaperbecause when you end up in an acute
condition, it costs thousands,millions of dollars.
I mean.
Exactly.
It's just astronomical.

(35:49):
It really blows my mind howmuch medical.
Yeah.
Can be.
So I think this is going to bea trend.
The insurance companies aregoing to wake up and realizing we're
going to save a lot of moneyby covering this service.
So that's going to come, butnot yet.
The, the existing system isvery strong in this.

(36:10):
Well, the pharmaceuticalcompanies are some of the strongest.
I mean, they.
They're one of the biggestlobbyists in Congress.
So you've got a lot ofpushback and it's very political.
And of course, that's wherepeople have to become educated, which
is.
I want to commend you foreducating people on all of this,
because I think a lot ofpeople don't know where to turn.
They don't know anything aboutthis, and they should.

(36:31):
And what you're offering is analternative to, say, bioidentical
hormones.
Correct.
I mean.
Or do you endorse that sort ofthing too?
Yeah, that's all part of theintegrative medicine, using a holistic,
natural approach to enhance health.
So bioidentical hormone willbe one of the natural approaches.
A lot of the supplements and alot of the energy therapy.

(36:54):
Right.
Using ultrasound or red light,and all these are natural therapies.
Any of these.
So drugs have a lot of problems.
I'm not completely against drugs.
I think strategic use is important.
You know, Western medicine hasbrought a lot of great things, but
as a philosophy of helppreventing the people People from

(37:17):
getting sick and then gettingthem recover quickly.
I think the drug approach is misguided.
I think we need to focus onall the other things and maybe sometimes
we sprinkle.
Some drugs is great.
I still use drugs and someantifungal medications, maybe anti
nausea.
You know, it sometimes is useful.
It's helpful to have them.

(37:37):
Even ketamine, great for brain health.
That's a synthetic chemical,but can have profound effects on
people's depression, anxiety, ptsd.
So I'm not against anythingsynthetic per se, but we really need
to put them in their place.
Sure.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Now.
Yeah.
And also I want to just onething about the practice of medicine.

(37:59):
The powerful, the power of big pharma.
So we all know Google bought,you know, big pharmaceutical company
and it's interesting that.
No, I didn't know that, but apharmaceutical company.
I did not know that.
Yeah, that was as some years ago.
Yeah, five, six years ago.
But the doctors who are doingstem cell therapy, no one can run

(38:20):
an ad on Google, on Facebook,Instagram, no one can say I do stem
cell therapy and this is howyou can find me.
Because Google, I mean theseentities will simply not let you
run.
Because guess what?
They say this is consideredfake news.
No.
Yeah.
Considered miracle cure.
In the category of basicallysnake oil.

(38:42):
They put stem cell therapy inthe same category as unproven therapies
like snake oil.
Never mind.
There are then behind thecurtain, essentially they're not
telling the public we have avested interest in keeping this in
this category because we gotsomething we want to sell.
Yeah.
And also, when do they becomeexperts in medicine?

(39:05):
They're a search engine.
Exactly.
Yeah.
How do we, you know, how do you.
So the, the, the.
Yeah.
The power of these entitieshas gone really, you know, it's a
little scary.
And it's not just in medicine.
I'm sure it's in many areas,but in medicine it's, it's relevant
because they're contributingto the force that's keeping people
sick.

(39:25):
If people cannot know and areafraid to talk about what actually
works.
Exactly.
And that's the only way thatpeople are going to get better.
You have to have the open discussions.
And science is constantly changing.
You know, are we back in themiddle ages where people aren't allowed
to talk about some of thescientific discoveries?
Like the world isn't flat?

(39:49):
Yeah, unfortunately.
Yeah.
It's the history.
History does repeat itself.
It really does.
And, and we.
If you want to know what thereal reason is, follow the money.
Right.
And that's exactly Right, Yeah.
And what's, what's interestingis that even doctors, I will have
patients who really want to dostem cell therapy and then they want

(40:09):
to talk with their doctorsabout it.
And I hear so often thedoctors say, oh, well, there's still
no evidence that stem cellsactually work.
So it sounds great, but it,you know, there's no evidence.
I was like, oh my God, whatevidence would he like?
I have hundreds of articlesall categorized by organ systems,
disease categories.
Which organ system would helike to see?

(40:29):
Sure, I'll happily send himall the articles.
But the problem is thatdoctors are burying their hand, their
head in the sand.
They really don't want to know.
There's no reason for them toknow because they are in the insurance
and big pharma bubble andthey're living a very safe life.
Guess what?
If you use medications, youcan make a person really sick from

(40:50):
the side effects.
Some are very severe.
Right.
A person could die from themedication you gave them.
You are completely free of anyrepercussions as a provider because
you're protected, becauseyou're doing quote, unquote, standard
care.
Yeah, you are, because that'swhat everyone does.
And that's why you're safe,because you've informed people how

(41:12):
bad and how, how detrimentalthese medications are.
So if something terriblehappened to them, you're completely
safe.
So if you are looking forsafety, then you're not going to
venture out of it becauseyou're pretty protected.
Well, and doctors worry aboutliability certainly very much.
I don't think a lot of peoplerealize that a lot of the medical
schools are sponsored by thepharmaceutical companies.

(41:35):
Oh yeah, yeah.
If people want to know detailsthat look up Rockefeller medicine.
So how Rockefeller basicallychanged the entire medical system
from a natural approach topetroleum, medical, you know, chemical
based practice and squeezingout everybody else.
So they're, they're trainedand conditioned by companies that
want to stay in business.

(41:57):
Yeah, yeah.
So when Rockefeller started todonate all these money to medical
schools and they said, hey, wejust gave you all this money, wouldn't
it make sense that we havesomebody on your board to help you
to make sure the money's well spent?
That's how it started of themedical education, that's how it
got started.
That's just crazy.

(42:18):
So now how do people reach outto a physician who's been trained
and in someone who's approvedby your group so that they know that
they're getting the right kindof stem cell therapy?
Is this available across thenation or in North America?
Yeah, Actually, a lot ofdoctors are doing it despite the
fact that there's, there'sopposition that that is not FDA approved.

(42:43):
That is, you know, that is alittle bit on the, the fringe, on
the edge, even though it'sextraordinarily safe.
But because if you don't usecells that have been manipulated,
then you are providing atissue transplant.
So the FDA did say if you'renot manipulating anything and if
you're not claiming thatyou're treating diseases, then you're

(43:05):
just performing an organtransplantation, that you can do
it as a doctor without goingthrough a drug study.
But if you, if you start to docertain things, changing the cells
in any way or putting the bodyin a particular manner, that makes
it a drug.
And then you have to conductdrug study.
And drug studies are very expensive.
I don't know if, you know, oh,yeah, it takes on, on an average

(43:25):
$2.1 billion to bring a druginto the market.
Yes.
So, so who has that kind of money?
Just, just, just think aboutit, right?
Who has that kind of money?
So that's, that's one of the obstacles.
But a lot of doctors are ableto do it because it's a tissue transplant.
More and more are doing it.
Despite that, it's, you know,some are scared to do it.

(43:47):
But the, in the last fouryears, the number, last five years,
the number of stem cellclinics have quadrupled in the U.S.
i always say this is agrassroots movement.
It's not the doctors who aredriving this movement is the patients.
Because it works.
Yeah, the word spread.
Everybody is seeking for solutions.

(44:08):
Then I, that's why I hear allthe time from doctors, hey, I have
four or five people interestedin stem cell therapy.
I don't know how to do it.
Can you teach me how?
So that's what's going on.
The patients are driving this.
So can patients go to CharaHealth and Chara Biologics to find.
Yeah, Chara Biologics providesstem cell products to doctors.

(44:30):
But Chara Health is my clinicin Los Angeles, so absolutely they
can, they can find me.
Actually, the easiest way tofind me, probably just my website,
joycon md.com and then thathas everything in there.
And they can send in a contact form.
But yeah, Chara Health iswhere we do some really interesting

(44:52):
stuff.
Not just using stem cells, butstem cells is definitely the key
feature.
But we want to make sure we'readdressing the complex nature of
health altogether.
So we do a lot of adjuncttreatment, different supplements,
different peptides.
We do ozone therapy beforestem Cells, we use laser technology
so comprehensively we cantarget the cells even more efficiently

(45:13):
and more precisely.
Yeah.
So it's fabulous.
That's everything else.
Fabulous.
This is exciting.
It's the potential toimproving the quality of life for
people.
I mean that's a huge bonusright there.
And it just makes sense.
And it's going to be, you know.

(45:34):
Because they keep talkingabout the aging population and how
it's going to be a major burden.
Well, if you keep people in ahealthy state, that's not going to
be a problem.
Yeah.
So do you guys know the statistics?
If you can slow the agingprocess down by seven years, you
can reduce the amount ofchronic illness in the world by half.

(45:59):
So 50% reduction in the, inthe number of chronic illnesses,
you know that people cases.
Right.
This basically 50% of thesuffering will be gone.
And I do believe if we startto give people regular IV stem cells,
starting at the age whatever,35, that's when the decline is much
more obvious.
If we can start there, 35, 40years old, we start the IV stem cells

(46:21):
on a regular basis.
I don't think it's difficultto slow down the aging process by
50, by 15 to 20 years.
And I do believe that willresult in 75% of the illness being
gone.
Imagine a much healthier humanspecies and happier too.
Yes.
Yeah.
You have more time, you haveless time to be self absorbed of

(46:44):
your illness and more time todevote to helping others, to have
a good family, you know, to,to add to the joyfulness of being
alive.
Right.
And I would think this couldbe a wonderful breakthrough for maybe
things like Alzheimer's wherethere's cognitive decline.
Yeah, it can definitely help.
It's very neuroprote protective.

(47:05):
So it can help protect againstthese neurological conditions.
And even when people aresuffering from it because of the,
you know, the multiplemechanism, how it works, we know
it can help reduce the symptoms.
And I've seen that clinicallygetting people to, you know, to even
regain personality back to gofrom urinary and bowel incontinent

(47:28):
to, you know, becomingcontinent to from not verbal to conversing,
not feeding themselves, toactually starting eating.
And all these improvementsshowing that the neurological, all
the highways in your brain arestarting to, to flow.
Right.
So information are passingthrough so you can do all these things
that you were actuallyprevented from doing because you

(47:49):
were so sick.
And I would imagine too withfertility, if someone is struggling
with that, this could help too.
Yeah.
So that's interesting.
There are animal studiesshowing, believe it or not, Perimenopausal
rats.
Rats.
If you start to give them stem cells.
So these are aging rats withaging ovaries, and you start to give

(48:09):
them stem cells, IV stem cells.
They actually start the ovary.
The size gets bigger.
There are more follicles.
They are better hormonesecretions or improved hormone levels
and more pregnancies.
Can it help with somebody.
Can it help with somebodywho's been.
Has gone through menopause as well?
Of course.
Yeah.
I was going to say, I'mthinking this helps.

(48:30):
I don't, I don't know if it'sgoing to revert to you back into,
you know, premenopause, but itjust definitely it's going to help
you with all your functions.
But, yeah, overall it, it'sjust so good.
So good.
I think it's just a foundation.
It's a foundational therapy.
One day, the mystique, youknow, around it is going to be gone.

(48:51):
It's not going to be no big deal.
And right now, it's no controversy.
Well, okay, in hopefully 15,20 years, everybody's going to be
using stem cells, and it'sgoing to be no big deal.
Of course you're going to dosome stem cells so you don't decline.
You know, like, if, if allyour friends are not declining, you're
the only one declining.
Would you.
Oh, yeah.
Up on the bandwagon, right?

(49:12):
Like, why are we declining?
You know, if, if I can lookyouthful until I'm 75, why am I willing
to allow myself to start, youknow, looking old at 55?
Right.
Why?
So you want to jump on it soyou can, you know.
Really?
Yeah, exactly.
And so, so everyone's going tobe doing it.
And of course, humans, we'realways going to have sickness, always
going to have accidents and injuries.

(49:33):
And so anytime, if you do needsurgeries, you can always do stem
cells to accelerate your healing.
And no matter how sick youare, what's going on, infections,
you know, even Covid, the, theChinese were doing studies.
I mean, they were devastated.
Right before.
We were devastated and theywere freaking out.
So they started doing stemcell research.
So at the very early stage, Ithink it was March, I was talking

(49:56):
about these six studies theydid using stem cells, getting people,
almost all the people offventilators and out of the hospitals
within five, I think five orsix days.
So they, they were on it.
It's like, okay, let's trystem cells, and boom, it works because
it will prevent you from thatcytokine storm and really calm the
inflammation and shift things around.

(50:18):
So even infections, whateversuffering that we're dealing with,
you can do some stem cells sothat you can just elevate your ability
to repair and heal.
It makes total sense.
So would you recommend peoplereach out to Chara Health first if
you want to?
Okay, yeah.
They can always go to mywebsite, joycon md.com and put in

(50:39):
a contact form.
And I welcomed people to learnmore about stem cells on my YouTube
channel.
It's just JoyCon, Maryland.
So I have so many videos goingin deeper into different aspects
about stem cell therapybecause there's a lot, a lot to talk
about, you know, includingpeople's concerns.
Oh, well, I don't want otherpeople's DNA in my body.

(51:00):
Okay.
I talked about that.
Okay.
How often do it?
Do I need a treatment?
Do I need a treatment for therest of my life?
I talked about that.
And, and.
And difference between stemcells and exosomes, which is really
hot right now.
I talk about that.
So there are a lot of subjects.
I go into greater depths, so Iwant people to be educated.
This is revolutionary.
I really appreciate you beingon the show.
This is very educational, andI think you're giving a lot of people

(51:24):
a lot of hope.
Absolutely.
What an honor to have you onour show.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I just give people an idea.
I've seen people withautoimmune conditions.
For example, there's one ladywith rheumatoid arthritis.
She was a surgical technician,and she couldn't work for months.
And in the middle of a stemcell infusion, she made a fist and

(51:44):
started crying.
She said, I haven't been ableto make a fist for two months, and
it can happen that fast.
We've got people withParkinson's, wheelchair bound for
a year or two and standing upfrom our bed and walk toward the
doctor and giving the doctor a hug.
You know, people whopreviously, someone with Alzheimer's,
not talking for months, all ofa sudden, in the middle of the treatment,

(52:07):
telling doctors, thank you.
It.
I mean, autistic kids.
I just gave a presentation ata big autism conference in Brazil
talking about the cases, youknow, of how it can help autistic
kids.
You know, people with, youknow, heart, lung diseases.
These are.
You know, most of these peopleI see have exhausted the traditional
therapies.
Sure.

(52:27):
They came to the end of theirhope, and then they see something
incredible with stem cells.
So it's definitely making mywork really meaningful and inspiring
and really fun.
You are changing lives.
Thank you so much, Dr. Kong,for doing what you're doing.
And we really appreciate youbeing on the show, and I definitely
encourage people to do moreresearch on this and reach out to

(52:50):
you.
Absolutely.
Oh, just one thing, so I don'tdeprive your audience of this.
I did develop a cream calledChara Omni is a stem cell cream.
So for people who, who may nothave the resources to actually do
a stem cell treatment, atleast they can use this cream for
their face, for rejuvenation.
Oh, excellent.
It's a hundred percent natural.

(53:10):
So it's very important for menot to give people these synthetic
ingredients that you can'tpronounce because so many of them
have a lot of unforeseenissues in the body.
The body's complex.
All of a sudden you'reintroducing completely different
molecules that your, your,your biology has never seen for millennia,
and they can have all kinds of problems.
So I'm not, I'm just notwilling to do that.

(53:31):
So everything's natural and wehave stem cells, which are not alive,
by the way, but all thebeneficial ingredients from the cells,
all the signals are still there.
And then all these reallyeffective peptides for skin regeneration
and a lot of herbal extracts,antioxidants, prebiotics.
So it's an amazing cream.
So I just want to make surethat people know that, that they

(53:53):
can replace some benefits fromstem cells, even if they can't go
get stem cell treatment.
Okay, and what's the name ofthe product again?
And where would they find that?
It's Chara Omni.
So C H A R A N O m n I socharaomni.com that's.
Yeah, that's the website witha list of all the ingredients and
they can read up on what, whatthe ingredients do.

(54:15):
I'll be checking it out for sure.
Absolutely.
And you're always looking forthe perfect elixir, you know, I know.
Dr. Kong, this has been anabsolute pleasure.
Thank you for being on the show.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
You two are wonderful.
And thank you for what you doto bring, you know, great information
to help women all around.
Yeah.

(54:35):
And I'm honored to be here.
It's been an honor having you.
Thank you.
Dr. Kung.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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