January 8, 2025 • 35 mins
“From Trauma To Triumph” goes through Ozzin’s journey from abusive relationships, rape, psychological trauma, and a myriad of physical ailments and manifestations to starting a successful business and inspiring others in their health journeys.
I implore you to listen to the many tactics and mindset strategies that will enable you to start a new identity, to “marry” the new version of yourself, and start a life that is more meaningful and purposeful.
Ozzin also has a new book you can pre-order called “Marry Yourself”, and she has a free health community. Links below.
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(00:01):
Hey there.
Welcome to the Won Body Won LifePodcast.
Hi, I'm your host, Dr.
Jason Won, Lifestyle PhysicalTherapist.
In this podcast, I always talkabout anything health related,
or how to live a more fulfillinglife, how to decrease pain, how
to overcome certain psychologiesand certain things that may be
hindering you from living a morefulfilling and even a healthier
life.
And I also like to bring on avery special guest today.
(00:21):
I have a very special guest.
Her name is Ozzin Jun.
She's from Switzerland.
I think she has a very spiritedand entrepreneurial mindset.
So I think we have a reallymutual connection there, but
also we definitely want to talka little bit about how, certain
traumas in our life, how toovercome those things and how to
triumph beyond that.
So the episode today is actuallycalled from trauma to triumph.
(00:43):
And I think that Ozzy is one ofthe best people to highlight on
that.
So Ozzy, just welcome in.
And we're very excited and veryprivileged to have you.
So how are you doing today?
Thank you so much Jason forhaving me.
I'm very excited to share myjourney and I'm excited for this
talk today.
Perfect.
So why don't you just share justa little bit about your
background?
So what do you do?
Where are you from?
And what's your why for theworld?
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Yeah, sure.
So my name is Austin and I'mknown as a business mentor.
Also as the wealth queen becausejust like four years ago I was
in massive six figure debt.
I didn't have a life purpose.
I was just.
Still a student back then Idecided to drop out to pursue my
entrepreneurial career fully.
I'm also survivor of rape andkidnap.
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That's like part of the story.
And after all these things thatI've doing, like that I was
Going through, I had thisstrong, why to, help people to
build business like financialwealth, health as well, that
came from my trauma.
And that's what like pushed meto help people in the business.
And then also, as a healthadvocate, after what I've going
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through to overcome your chronicsickness.
So if you're a business owner, acoach with any service that you
provide, I help you through, Ican help you with the social
media and with the messagingshift to three X or sales.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Let's definitely talk about justhighlight from a few years back.
Obviously I didn't know you backthen, but there seemingly was a
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sense of why that usually comesabout it.
And usually with anyentrepreneur, usually there
often is a big sense of whysometimes it is just strictly I
want to make more money, but Ithink that even for me after
going through.
My, my dad's sickness and himpassing away, my, my journey has
always been about helping peopleto prevent sickness and pain
(02:33):
from their life so they can livehappier.
So why don't you just share alittle bit about your journey,
how you came about being here?
Yes, sure.
So I think for me, it allstarted the moment during COVID
I was still in university backthen.
And my dream was actually tobecome rather an artist.
So I dropped out the first timein school to become an artist
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where I took a flight to NewYork and I was like painting for
nine hours on the floor.
But I quickly realized thatdrawing like for, 10 hours is
too much.
It's very different than drawingas a passion for an hour.
And I wasn't making much moneyas an artist.
So seeing in New York, a lot ofthe societal issues and even my
mom going after divorce througha lot of financial crisis, hard
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times that led me to themotivation to make money online,
to figure a way out.
And also I wanted to like, justlike transform people.
So the first time when I waslike, 18 starting this journey.
I was a bit all over the place,trying e commerce, trying
trading, whole type of things.
Until I had to zoom out andthat's when I realized that
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coaching was the thing that Iwanted to do.
I didn't know back then I couldmake really a living out of
this.
But then I committed in 2021 toa coach.
I paid my first 10 grand, wentall in.
And then within the first sixmonths I had sorry, the first
eight months, I had my first sixfigure cash months and I started
to impact all, over the world,like people, coaches, me now
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it's been like 15, 000 peoplethrough keynotes and workshops
that I've transformed.
And everything that I'm doing, Ithink.
The biggest impact for me was2019.
After, before I actually wentinto entrepreneurship that
plants this huge seed in methrough a trauma that I've
experienced that came from rapeand kidnap where I was missing
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in school for about one month.
And then, I got found by thepolice.
There was, it's a long story,but that thing made me realize
my purpose deeper.
And I think if it wouldn't bewithout that pain on the
financial level, the depthlevel, the no purpose level I
think I wouldn't be here.
So I think it's.
Speeded me up in terms of likewisdom, resilience, and the same
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reason why today I don't liketo, stick to the one type tool
of being a business mentor.
I think being a good businessmentor is also about being like
almost a life mentor for people.
So living a life and that's whatled me to, create very recently
a health community where I speakabout Trauma healing and chronic
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healing which is also veryphysical Yeah, how does how do
you feel like the physicalrelates to like the mentor the
psychosocial?
So obviously you went through atrauma where it's missing for
one month.
So obviously There's a lot offear, anxiety.
Sometimes people, I think,respond in different ways to
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those traumas.
Now, whether they.
Decide to repress thosememories.
And sometimes people then you,like yourself, you use as a
catalyst for, helping otherpeople.
So can you share a little bitabout how, how mentally that's
changed you in a way that, thathas made you who you are today?
Yes, sure.
So in the moment when everythinghappened for the context, I was
(05:53):
in a toxic abusive relationshipand that totally just escalated.
And back then even when I brokeup it, it was very hard because
I was constant on there like 24seven stalking.
My whole school was involved.
My parents were involved.
There was a court case going onfor three years.
So psychologically it got mevery like deep.
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down like anxious panic nights,insomnia.
And I think the worst thingabout that was that it was hard
to run away from that becausethis guy was still after me and
it wasn't until the policereally interfered and had this
whole warning.
So mentally what got me back upafter.
Physically, I couldn't open myjaw anymore.
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I was injured in some areas.
But when I just turned theselfie stick, not just towards
me, but about others, I felt somuch pain that I felt I had to
get up in order to help otherpeople.
I also got a message.
In, after a few months from alady, she reached out on
Instagram to me, I didn't knowwho she was, but she knew me.
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And she said that she is the newgirlfriend of this crazy man.
And he put an ax on her wholecar.
He also raped her, betrayed her.
And she said she wants to commitsuicide on that nine.
So after that one night hearingthat I decided to make my story
public.
Because it's unfortunate, like ahuge trend going on that I feel
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that every third person orwomen, even guys that I met that
they go through this.
So I think that the mentalfortitude that comes from that,
it's just like from unbearablepain and the knowing how that
feels.
So if you've been walking inhell, you just know like how
heaven feels later.
Yeah.
How long exactly did it take youfrom, from the time that you're
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in this toxic relationship,there is a number of abusive
acts that were going on.
So how long did it take for you?
Once you were out of thatrelationship, how long did it
take for you to, cope to besettled into a place where, you
know, again we talk about youinspiring others.
So did it take you like just afew weeks?
Did it take you many months andyears to get this issue out of
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the way and to start focusing onyourself and impacting other
people?
Wow, that's a very complicatedanswer, but I think the fastest
answer to that is after thiswhole act.
I think I was also a bit inshock after all of this.
And also I was back then justshortly before my school
graduation.
So I have to imagine I missedout.
school.
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So that left a lot of questionmarks for a lot of teachers.
And when I came back, all theschool directors, people told me
I should just repeat the schoolyear and just, get like some
therapists and relax on myhealth.
But I was like always veryambitious and I knew my dream
was to, finish the school year,get the university.
And get to my dream job.
So I asked and backed all theschool teachers that I will
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repeat or do all the exams thatI've missed like within a month,
which was like 20 differentexams.
And after multiple likediscussions, I.
I made and I went through allthe exams, I passed it and I
actually graduated as one of thesecond best students.
And for me, I think honestly,school career was the thing that
helped me to shift my focus fromcoming home after this whole
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kidnap and rape thing.
And on the same night I cameback home, I know like people
won't believe, but I actuallyjust studied I just went to my
room.
And I was like, it's crazy whatjust happened, but I first got
to graduate.
So I just studied like for twoweeks, like a freak, like a
zombie without much sleep.
I graduated.
And then after the graduation,all my tears came down.
(09:28):
It was like for my body, just somuch.
But after that, I think in termsof processing that I'm like, I
always feel no matter what Iwent through, even this whole
rape thing I feel there's thisattitude that says okay, it
happened, a trauma.
Is only a trauma in a way andonly that bad if you make it and
accept it as really bad So whileI acknowledge that I just said
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fast moving on and then Ifocused so much on my career and
entrepreneurship That it wasalmost a thing of a matter of a
week where I just got up and didit And then after three years
I'm entering a new relationshipwith my loving boyfriend today.
That was when the trauma flaredup, this is like the moment
where you're so like things youdon't even know what was like in
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you and processing.
So still of the things that likecame up like last year that I
had to process with therapistsand things.
But yeah, it's a journey forsure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I say the similar things to myclients as well.
When I'm helping them with aninjury or helping them with
pain.
Then pain is the manifestationof everything that we are from
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physical to psychosocial.
So If somebody hurts themselvesrepeatedly, like their lower
back, it can impact many partsof their life from their family,
their finances, theirrelationships, and obviously
physical health to the point ofdisablement, you saying to
yourself despite this prettylarge trauma, to try to
consolidate that trauma into asmall little box and just to
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focus on your studies and focuson your aspirations of being who
you are today.
That's very admirable.
And I try to even instill thatwith my own clients.
You might be dealing with thispain, but if you can consolidate
it and perceive that it's not aslarge and consuming as you
think, then you can start tofocus on the other aspects of
life that are more meaningful.
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The family around you, your kidsand then you can start to live
your life.
Pain just becomes this smallinstance of your life and not
this large, overconsuming cloud.
I think that you did that very,I think that you did that very
well.
My, my question is, did you, doyou feel like after all that,
You were obviously experiencedsome shock, then you started to
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feel a sense of you started tofeel more of those like flares
coming up when you had a new,over the, between those times of
the abusive relationships and tothe point where you start a new
relationship.
Did you experience anything likethis thing called mind body
connection where you had thispsychological trauma, but then
it started to manifest itself asphysical symptoms, superficial
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symptoms, like some people startto develop.
Yeah.
stomach issues or they start todevelop pain in their body.
Did you experience any likephysical symptoms as a result of
emotional trauma?
Yes, sure.
So after that time, I think it Iwas first doing good.
Like physically I was alwayslike very like in shape fit.
Like it was just, I think goodDNA.
And I.
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Was I was like taking care ofmyself.
However, I realized after beingin a relationship with now my
loving boyfriend for about fouryears, 2021 I met him and it was
the time where I feel I wasstill doing okay ish because I
did a lot of the healing workbefore entering a new
relationship.
And I always talk this aboutalso my new upcoming book.
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It's called marry yourself.
And this is the concept thatreally healed me.
It speaks about using chaos as amirror towards your given
purpose.
It speaks about deeper levels ofself commitment and self
worthiness.
So the more self worthiness Ihave, the more money I made, the
more I had better relationshipand anything else in life.
And so is it for health?
But I think the process where Icould physically feel something
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was like really going bad was2022, 2023.
I started to have recurringinfection, UTI.
I had all types of sicknesses,like migraines, and it was
getting so bad to the pointwhere.
Where in 2022, I almost diedactually in hospital in New
York.
I had the whole blood poison.
I was in Nepal in an emergencystation last year during peace
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conference.
And and also I had a skin eczemafor 12 years that I had like
even years ago, from probably alot of teenager stress, the
divorce, my parents went throughthis year it became unbearable.
I was.
Completely knocked out.
I could not get out of bedanymore.
I was crying at the beginning ofthis year.
I'm really depressed.
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And as a business owner, this iseven double frustrating because
you cannot perform.
So that's where I changed mywhole lifestyle.
So I really believe it's.
It's two things.
Like one thing is like you, youhave to do obviously the mindset
work and you can do all type ofpositive thinking and stuff, but
at the end of the day, they arealso physical things that needs
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to be treated.
I had to release toxins.
The liver was full of toxinsand.
And people don't talk about itthese days that the modern life
like the food that we eat theair that we breathe All of these
things how it toxicated me overyears and there was also abuse
that I tolerated to myself,coffees running on energy drinks
allowing toxic relationships, soit's not just like toxin from
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foods, but it's like toxins fromrelationships And I radically
Eliminated all of these things.
And then within three months, myskin eczema started to
disappear.
And this is like where, Iunderstood this whole body and
PTSD.
It's a real thing because yourbrain has a chemical balance
imbalance.
And it's, and people talk about,Oh you have a thick skin, but
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what they're actually saying islike people who have a thick
skin.
game.
They have more reserve onglucose and it uses up when you
have a lot of the traumas andPTSD.
And I started to study all ofthese topics in and out.
And now I, help people withbusiness and with the life and
house together.
Yeah.
So how do you feel that, withPTSD There's an, there's a
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increase or chronic overload ofcortisol secretion and cortisol
and disturb many areas of thebody from, for women like your
estrogen levels, it can disturbyour testosterone and I know
women given that they have acertain amount of testosterone.
You deplete that even as well,and then you, your body feels
malaise, it feels weak and alsocan disturb the ability to
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absorb food, obviously, becausecortisol dampers insulin, which,
therefore, you're not able toutilize glucose as readily for,
you exercise or even just day today activities.
So with that being said how,what were the steps for you that
you took?
When you had eczema andmigraines and you're can get out
of bed, was it all, was itmainly dietary?
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Was it like physical health?
Did you start walking more?
Did you start to do more breathwork?
If you don't mind like detailingthat for people, for maybe
anybody that's dealt with traumaor PTSD, I love your insight on
what you were able to do foryourself.
Yes, sure.
So before I, suggest certainthings like physically that you
can consume, I think the firstthing it is really the mindset.
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And for me, it was really thiswhole marry yourself, self
commitment.
You have to commit and loveyourself.
I'm a woman of faith, so Ibelieve in God.
So whoever you believe in, Ithink by faith is foundation.
And the second thing is likereally purpose.
Because I, I cannot name itenough, but it wouldn't be like
without purpose where I would behere every time it's purpose,
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percept, perspective shift thathelped me to keep going.
And then once you know yourpurpose, once you really anchor
into that and you base youridentity into something
permanent and not based on yourfeelings, how you feel, because
then your life is like reallywobbly and like a drunk yard.
But if you put it into God, it'spermanent and that's the base.
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After that, it was for medrinking celery juice.
So celery juice, I believe is anatural God given healer.
It really flushed out so manytoxins.
So you can start with 16 to 35ounces every day with celery
juice in the morning.
So without adding water becausewater is doesn't make it
effective enough.
So you wake up, make drink acelery juice.
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Usually it's one whole cellarstack per adult person.
Then you wait 20 to 30 minutes.
And then you can eat the lightbreakfast and then go on and
then no fats usually in themorning are extreme and I'm
speaking especially to those whodeal with skin eczema and if you
have a very sluggish liverbecause most eczemas, they come
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from the liver.
You can do start to do this andalso and to make it really
relevant is what reallysurprised me is that celery
juice can also decrease ADHDautism.
It helped people, heal fromcancer and so many other
illnesses, gut health as well.
After you do this for a while,like it can be 30 days and, most
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likely actually part of yourlongterm lifestyle there are
different detox method that Ialso teach, like a lot of food.
Fruits, the veggies, it's oftenthe things that you probably
know, but then doing is theother thing.
So for me, like understanding todecrease the things that, it's
not good, probably likeprocessed foods and like sugary
drinks, caffeine, there's a lotof food betrayers that you need
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to know just by eliminating themfor me, 80 percent of my
symptoms were gone.
So it was like gluten.
I avoided weeds allergy.
You have to like, no.
Allergies that you have withsensitives, so this is the thing
like have like more bodyawareness and observing it maybe
journal it.
And then the last steps is youcan support your health journey
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with also tea and herbs.
I had no idea that, thyme tea,there is hibiscus tea for
sluggish liver.
And I just started to drink likeliters of Very specific teas,
everyday celery juice, everydayfruits and veggie.
And then, when I work instead ofsitting all the time, I used to
just incorporate like littlestretchings and getting up every
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30, 50 minutes, which for me wasa huge progress.
It sounds like a little, but itdoes a lot.
So yeah, I think this is thethree steps where, how you can
get started.
For sure.
Yeah.
It's, I didn't know about celeryjuice, but I think that's a.
It's a really great fact forpeople to know.
I'm curious if like just eatinga celery stick is the same thing
as juicing it and whether it hasthe same type of context.
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And I, yeah I do believe thatexercise, stretching, walking,
getting up out of your seat,considering where it mainly a
computer driven society.
And most of us, we decay at thedesk.
Is really pivotal.
Like walking just gets betterfluid exchange out of your
lungs.
It prevents pneumonia.
It prevents chronic hip and lowback pain as well.
So there obviously exercise is ahuge catalyst and it is what
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exactly Ozden said is thatadmitting that you need to
accept that change, whetherit's.
Whether you are religious andyou are a, just like how I am,
I'm a man of faith, and Ibelieve in God as well that,
that could be something thatshifts your perspective and
starts to make those massivechanges.
Even then, whether you're notreligious and you're just like,
hey, I need to contemplatechange, you need to shift your
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perspective.
Contemplation stage into, prepreparation and action stage.
And those kind of are yourthoughts is you can listen to
this podcast and simply just belike, wow, that was a great
podcast.
That hasn't been jaded.
Or you can decide, after this,I'm going to actually journal
things out.
I'm going to make a plan.
I'm going to write it down.
I'm going to send a contract tomyself and I'm actually going to
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really make the changes that Iwant to change my health, my
financial career.
Anything that you feel.
And I think that outside of justtrauma, Ozzin is that you have
triumphed in many differentways.
You're physically stronger, moreresilient.
You're inspiring more people andnot that everyone has to be an
entrepreneur, but for anybodythat's listening, everything
comes together from yourphysical mental health, from
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your relations and finances,everything's tied together.
And one thing that youdefinitely hit on that I always
hit on too, is your purpose.
If you're not purpose driven, ifyou don't have purpose for life,
you're depleting as far aseverything that's, that could
drive you.
So what would you say to anybodythat has dealt with something
similar to you?
Whether it's a trauma, whetherthey are trying to improve their
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financial or their physicalhealth.
What are some of the main, let'ssay one or two pieces of advice
that you usually give to likeyour own clients, your own
followers?
Yes, sure.
So I think the first thing thathelped me to heal and you can
also do is called expressionwork.
I do this a lot of the time.
So it's you have to imagineyourself.
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Flower garden or is blossomingand I think the, no matter if
you're somebody that wants toexpand their personal brand or
if it's you in healing, I thinkat the end of the day, it's like
you showing the version you'vealways having you and becoming
more naked.
So it's also the same thing Manypeople are trying to be like
sugar, like you people pleasing.
And you're also in your contentmaybe not standing on the values
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and things that you trulybelieve in because you don't
want to let people down.
People want to be liked and it'svery normal, but I think where I
started to heal is to stop beingsugar and become salt, become
bitter, but in a sense you'renot for everyone and that's very
okay.
And I think learning how toexpress that.
And it's like a very artistic.
Being for me was like playingpiano.
It was journaling was like,getting really creative, was
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writing, but another part washonestly, the moment I shared my
story publicly about rape andkidnap a, I did it for this
particular women who wanted tocommit suicide on that night,
she wrote me, but at the sametime, what it did was while I
gave a speech at Kensingtonpalace in 2023 and that same
month.
My skin eczema reduced by 40%.
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And that was for me so insane.
I felt like it was almost amiracle.
So sometimes just letting it outsharing and, whilst you help
people, you help yourself, youheal as you go and that, and you
have to find out like what andhow you want to express it.
And then the second part is, asI mentioned about marrying
yourself.
So this whole concept is numberone within marrying yourself.
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I talk about letting go of anolder identity of you.
You have to divorce yourself inorder to marry your new version.
You cannot be both.
And you, you put down and writedown three wedding wows that you
give yourself, like for example,for next year, what are the
wedding wows?
And they have to be rooted inyour new identity.
Like you're this type of personand separate all type of other
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things that, doesn't serve you.
And it's a lot about translatingthe experiences you want inside
of your business and alsooutside of life.
So the biggest mistake peopledo, even in business is like
they build something and thenthey realize they really hate
what they've built, like thestructure or maybe the coaching
delivery, whatever system youhave.
And same thing forrelationships.
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So the first thing of marryingyourself is when you set those
new wedding wows, look into whatdo you want to experience?
For example, for me in business,it was like, I want to wake up
on autopilot of sales.
I want to travel with the world,with my boyfriend.
I want to go anywhere when Ican.
I wanted to not rely on onecoaching for like my revenue
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streams.
I want this type of lovingrelationship where I felt really
physically, mentally,emotionally on all levels.
So all these things, once I wasclear, I could translate from
there, my business model, and Icould also manifest the things
really much faster in terms ofwhat type of relationship I
wanted.
So yeah, you can start withthese things of like really
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identifying the experiences andmake yourself a wedding while
contract and then really sign itand put it somewhere where you
can see it daily.
And then the other thing is.
Find a way to express yourself,music, arts, whoever you are,
whatever you, but letting it outand be okay not to be liked by
everyone.
Absolutely.
I feel like you hit on so manygood points.
One book that always comes tomind with me cause I, I pride
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myself on having really goodmovement habits and exercising a
lot.
Atomic habits by James clear.
It's one book that.
Really speaks to me.
He even talks about how youcould technically write a
contract to yourself.
And, if you break that contract,there's consequences, or you can
write a contract and send it toyour wife or your partner.
And if you break that contract,you owe them something.
So I think there's a lot of,there's a lot to say around you
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contemplating change and justsaying to yourself Oh, I'm going
to take these action stepsversus.
writing it down, remindingyourself every single day by
posting it like in your bathroomor in the bedroom.
So you're reminded every dayabout, this is my new identity.
And you can't, it's like tellinga smoker to not smoke.
If you tell them to not smoke,the likelihood is they're going
to fall back into faulty habitsbecause eventually that
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motivation and discipline willwean off or the ill wear out.
But when you actually say toyourself, like the identity is I
will try not to smoke versus.
That's saying that you say toyourself is I am not a smoker,
right?
I am a healthier and a moreresilient individual that's
capable of handling any sort ofstress or any sort of
pressuring, from friends andcolleagues.
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There's a vast differencebetween saying I am, and I think
that I am is probably astatement that probably defines,
your new book, Marry Yourself.
Is you start to step into a newversion of yourself that that
really makes the changes thatyou want.
And one other book that I wantto mention, cause I feel like I
just hit on this book a lot.
Have you ever heard of the bookThe Regrets of the Dying by
Bronnie Ware?
Oh, no, I don't even know.
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I never heard about it.
So it's a book that I even readwhen I first became an
entrepreneur as well, and it's abook by Bronnie where she's a
palliative nurse, pallipalliative nurses are nurses
that work in a setting wherepeople are literally under
deathbed or they check into thisplace and they're accepting that
they are going to pass, right?
There's have, they may be havingsomething terminal.
(26:56):
And that's just where it is, butthey, she documents a lot of
people that she's interviewed.
And there's essentially there'sfive regrets that people have
like on their deathbed But thefirst one that I think that
really hits home that you saidWas number one and this is the
very first one is I wish I hadthe courage to live a life true
to myself Not the life othersexpected.
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Oh my god, jason.
I actually recognize It's partof actually a speech that i'm
preparing for and it was exactlythe study that I took But I
didn't know it was actually abook but very true.
It ties in so perfect with whatwe say You yeah.
And so when you're living alife, that's you're being, I
guess you're being two faced oryou're starting something in
your life that you started andyou're not very passionate about
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it, or maybe you had the passionfor it, but then you decided
Hey, this is not what I want todo.
Is you have to align your valuesand your purpose with the things
that you're wanting to do,because if you don't, then
you're just forcing the issue.
So I think for what you've beenthrough and the journey you've
been on again, what isadmirable, but too, I think
you're living a very purposedriven life, helping people with
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their health.
Their financial health, theirphysical health.
And I think that peopledefinitely identify as such.
So if there's somebody that Ithink has gone through similar
things, I think that checkingout your content and checking
out even your new book thatcomes out we'll definitely put a
link for that, or, at least tellpeople what it is with that
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being said, is there anythingelse that you want to leave our
audience with any like finalmessages that I think we'll.
Maybe one, maybe not necessarilycompel them to make change,
something that you definitelycan have somebody like something
that they can stick with.
I think that could take awayfrom this podcast.
Yeah, sure.
So in terms of like first yearstudies that you mentioned
about, living a life in the waythat you want, I think it's so
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crucial.
So is the marrying yourself.
I still, a lot in the book aboutshaking off like labels,
limitations and things like thelabels put sprout from your
whole childhood.
So that is really key that youdon't marry, all those type of
things.
So you can clear up the space ofwhat you truly want and what's
like God's will for yourpurpose.
And then in terms of like whereyou can get started is I
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mentioned the first step ofmarrying yourself.
So I spoke about identity anddivorcing that part, but step
two is to Dating yourself.
So before you marry, you date,then you have engagement.
Then there is the honeymoonphase and the father's daughter
stands.
So marry yourself will guidethis or a whole sequence of an
actual marriage, but it isapplied to you.
So in the second stage, what youcan do is in the dating stage
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how I healed my moneyrelationship.
All my life I've been reallybroke and my mom was always.
Always in lack seeing my Koreanfamily working really hard for
money.
So it was very hard to, to getout of this bubble and then say,
I want to become a millionaireand do my own business.
So that's where I took myself tomoney dates.
You can apply this also forrelationship or any other
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department in your life.
But to make you an example, Iused to go every Monday, like to
a coffee or somewhere out.
And I used to confront all thepain avoiders that I had.
And the pain avoiders is likeshame.
It's laziness.
It's fear, like fear looking inthe bank account because like
you're fricking broke.
So instead of avoiding it, I didall the things that I was
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avoiding.
And the more I paid attention tothe money, where it was going,
how I was feeling about it, Howstable it is, I improved a lot
my money behavior around andmoney used to make me very
emotional years ago, but now Isee that as a neutral thing, but
we give like the emotion to thatand I don't know if you heard
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about the book about GaryChapman, the five love
languages.
The people can apply inrelationship about acts of
service physical there are somany like five love languages,
but I applied that principle tothe relationship with money.
So most people see money as athing, but I started to view
money as a boyfriend.
If money was a boyfriend, howoften would you check in with
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money?
Yeah.
So a lot of the time my toxicversion would check in maybe
once a month or once In twoweeks also I would never like
touch money.
One, one day the money wasreliable.
The other day it was totallyunreliable.
And that was the type ofbehavior I had with money.
So the more I viewed it as anactual relationship, I dated it.
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I build up this healthy loving.
This is also where money startsto flow in my whole business,
owning yourself worse and doingthe things.
So think about areas where doyou want to improve on?
You can correlate it to thewedding wows that you wrote
down, whether it's businessrelated and things, and then
start to set yourself datesevery month, every week, and
then start to pay attention toyour pain avoiders.
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Because that's gonna, the shortterm discomfort is always better
than the longterm damage.
That really changed my lifedoing this multiple times.
And if you want to read moreabout the full book, which walks
you through the other sequencesof the whole wedding, then you
can pre order my book with thelink I just provide.
And I'll be happy if we canconnect also on social.
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Absolutely.
Awesome.
And we'll leave a lot of that inthe description section as well.
So yeah, in, in any case I wantto thank you for your time here
and everything that you saidaligns with my values as well,
stepping into a new identity inorder to improve.
physical, mental, and evenfinancial health from marrying
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yourself and stepping intodifferent identities, I think is
so critical for anyone.
I think that even if you're notsomebody that has dealt with
trauma, just listening to thewords that we talked about in
terms of.
Changing who you are, reflectingon those things going on dates.
I think that beyond justsomething just more like
metaphorical, I think that youdefinitely gave a lot more
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insight into things that you cando.
And so if you found anythingvaluable today from what Ozzin
said, I definitely recommend.
Connecting with her on social orand I know you, you actually
respond pretty often too.
So she's not going to ghost you.
It's not a robot either.
So also at the same time, I'llput a link into the description
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section.
Marry yourself.
I think that's going to be abook that even I will pre order
as well.
Is there any other places or anysort of other values or things
that you want to link?
And then I can also post that inthe description as well.
Any other connections?
Yes, sure.
So yeah, asides the marryyourself book, I also run a free
health community where I sendlike short mini voice notes and
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trainings for your everydaylife.
So if you're not really sure,where to So if know, decreasing
toxins exposure in your life, oryou're chronically sick or deal
with skin eczema, the freecommunity is a great way to
start.
It's on telegram group.
And the second thing is I inviteyou if you want more tangible
information really to get intoaction to register for my free
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masterclass.
It's called five steps to combatskin eczema and chronic illness.
And I walk you through the exactfive things that I did,
especially this year, applyingmy whole lifestyle in a way that
you can just enjoy.
Get ahead and start perfect.
Yeah.
And I'll link all that into thedescription section.
In any case, Ozzin I know thatwe connected before I was also,
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connected onto your podcast aswell.
So I just want to thank you foryour time, your wisdom your
drive, your energy, yourpurpose, and.
No, I think that a lot of peoplethat will tune into my podcast,
I think we'll get a lot of valueand I hope that they will
connect with you.
But that's it.
What I got for this podcasttoday for the won body won life
podcast, please give us somefeedback.
Please give us a five starreview.
(34:25):
Some more people can be able toview this.
Subscribe to my podcast.
Also look up Ozzin's podcast aswell and connect with us.
We'd love to hear, what you haveto say and help you with
anything in terms of physical oreven financially related, and if
you have any sort of feedbackfor us, definitely also leave
that as a review, but anyways,Ozzin, thank you so much for
your time and we appreciate youand, hopefully a lot of people
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will be inspired by your words.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's been a pleasure and I'mexcited for the growth and
everything's going to happen for2025.
Perfect.
Thank you so much.
Hey there.
Welcome to the Won Body Won LifePodcast.
Hi, I'm your host, Dr.
Jason Won, Lifestyle PhysicalTherapist.
In this podcast, I always talkabout anything health related,
or how to live a more fulfillinglife, how to decrease pain, how
to overcome certain psychologiesand certain things that may be
hindering you from living a morefulfilling and even a healthier
life.
And I also like to bring on avery special guest today.
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I have a very special guest.
Her name is Ozzin Jun.
She's from Switzerland.
I think she has a very spiritedand entrepreneurial mindset.
So I think we have a reallymutual connection there, but
also we definitely want to talka little bit about how, certain
traumas in our life, how toovercome those things and how to
triumph beyond that.
So the episode today is actuallycalled from trauma to triumph.
(00:43):
And I think that Ozzy is one ofthe best people to highlight on
that.
So Ozzy, just welcome in.
And we're very excited and veryprivileged to have you.
So how are you doing today?
Thank you so much Jason forhaving me.
I'm very excited to share myjourney and I'm excited for this
talk today.
Perfect.
So why don't you just share justa little bit about your
background?
So what do you do?
Where are you from?
And what's your why for theworld?
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Yeah, sure.
So my name is Austin and I'mknown as a business mentor.
Also as the wealth queen becausejust like four years ago I was
in massive six figure debt.
I didn't have a life purpose.
I was just.
Still a student back then Idecided to drop out to pursue my
entrepreneurial career fully.
I'm also survivor of rape andkidnap.
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That's like part of the story.
And after all these things thatI've doing, like that I was
Going through, I had thisstrong, why to, help people to
build business like financialwealth, health as well, that
came from my trauma.
And that's what like pushed meto help people in the business.
And then also, as a healthadvocate, after what I've going
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through to overcome your chronicsickness.
So if you're a business owner, acoach with any service that you
provide, I help you through, Ican help you with the social
media and with the messagingshift to three X or sales.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Let's definitely talk about justhighlight from a few years back.
Obviously I didn't know you backthen, but there seemingly was a
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sense of why that usually comesabout it.
And usually with anyentrepreneur, usually there
often is a big sense of whysometimes it is just strictly I
want to make more money, but Ithink that even for me after
going through.
My, my dad's sickness and himpassing away, my, my journey has
always been about helping peopleto prevent sickness and pain
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from their life so they can livehappier.
So why don't you just share alittle bit about your journey,
how you came about being here?
Yes, sure.
So I think for me, it allstarted the moment during COVID
I was still in university backthen.
And my dream was actually tobecome rather an artist.
So I dropped out the first timein school to become an artist
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where I took a flight to NewYork and I was like painting for
nine hours on the floor.
But I quickly realized thatdrawing like for, 10 hours is
too much.
It's very different than drawingas a passion for an hour.
And I wasn't making much moneyas an artist.
So seeing in New York, a lot ofthe societal issues and even my
mom going after divorce througha lot of financial crisis, hard
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times that led me to themotivation to make money online,
to figure a way out.
And also I wanted to like, justlike transform people.
So the first time when I waslike, 18 starting this journey.
I was a bit all over the place,trying e commerce, trying
trading, whole type of things.
Until I had to zoom out andthat's when I realized that
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coaching was the thing that Iwanted to do.
I didn't know back then I couldmake really a living out of
this.
But then I committed in 2021 toa coach.
I paid my first 10 grand, wentall in.
And then within the first sixmonths I had sorry, the first
eight months, I had my first sixfigure cash months and I started
to impact all, over the world,like people, coaches, me now
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it's been like 15, 000 peoplethrough keynotes and workshops
that I've transformed.
And everything that I'm doing, Ithink.
The biggest impact for me was2019.
After, before I actually wentinto entrepreneurship that
plants this huge seed in methrough a trauma that I've
experienced that came from rapeand kidnap where I was missing
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in school for about one month.
And then, I got found by thepolice.
There was, it's a long story,but that thing made me realize
my purpose deeper.
And I think if it wouldn't bewithout that pain on the
financial level, the depthlevel, the no purpose level I
think I wouldn't be here.
So I think it's.
Speeded me up in terms of likewisdom, resilience, and the same
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reason why today I don't liketo, stick to the one type tool
of being a business mentor.
I think being a good businessmentor is also about being like
almost a life mentor for people.
So living a life and that's whatled me to, create very recently
a health community where I speakabout Trauma healing and chronic
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healing which is also veryphysical Yeah, how does how do
you feel like the physicalrelates to like the mentor the
psychosocial?
So obviously you went through atrauma where it's missing for
one month.
So obviously There's a lot offear, anxiety.
Sometimes people, I think,respond in different ways to
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those traumas.
Now, whether they.
Decide to repress thosememories.
And sometimes people then you,like yourself, you use as a
catalyst for, helping otherpeople.
So can you share a little bitabout how, how mentally that's
changed you in a way that, thathas made you who you are today?
Yes, sure.
So in the moment when everythinghappened for the context, I was
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in a toxic abusive relationshipand that totally just escalated.
And back then even when I brokeup it, it was very hard because
I was constant on there like 24seven stalking.
My whole school was involved.
My parents were involved.
There was a court case going onfor three years.
So psychologically it got mevery like deep.
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down like anxious panic nights,insomnia.
And I think the worst thingabout that was that it was hard
to run away from that becausethis guy was still after me and
it wasn't until the policereally interfered and had this
whole warning.
So mentally what got me back upafter.
Physically, I couldn't open myjaw anymore.
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I was injured in some areas.
But when I just turned theselfie stick, not just towards
me, but about others, I felt somuch pain that I felt I had to
get up in order to help otherpeople.
I also got a message.
In, after a few months from alady, she reached out on
Instagram to me, I didn't knowwho she was, but she knew me.
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And she said that she is the newgirlfriend of this crazy man.
And he put an ax on her wholecar.
He also raped her, betrayed her.
And she said she wants to commitsuicide on that nine.
So after that one night hearingthat I decided to make my story
public.
Because it's unfortunate, like ahuge trend going on that I feel
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that every third person orwomen, even guys that I met that
they go through this.
So I think that the mentalfortitude that comes from that,
it's just like from unbearablepain and the knowing how that
feels.
So if you've been walking inhell, you just know like how
heaven feels later.
Yeah.
How long exactly did it take youfrom, from the time that you're
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in this toxic relationship,there is a number of abusive
acts that were going on.
So how long did it take for you?
Once you were out of thatrelationship, how long did it
take for you to, cope to besettled into a place where, you
know, again we talk about youinspiring others.
So did it take you like just afew weeks?
Did it take you many months andyears to get this issue out of
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the way and to start focusing onyourself and impacting other
people?
Wow, that's a very complicatedanswer, but I think the fastest
answer to that is after thiswhole act.
I think I was also a bit inshock after all of this.
And also I was back then justshortly before my school
graduation.
So I have to imagine I missedout.
school.
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So that left a lot of questionmarks for a lot of teachers.
And when I came back, all theschool directors, people told me
I should just repeat the schoolyear and just, get like some
therapists and relax on myhealth.
But I was like always veryambitious and I knew my dream
was to, finish the school year,get the university.
And get to my dream job.
So I asked and backed all theschool teachers that I will
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repeat or do all the exams thatI've missed like within a month,
which was like 20 differentexams.
And after multiple likediscussions, I.
I made and I went through allthe exams, I passed it and I
actually graduated as one of thesecond best students.
And for me, I think honestly,school career was the thing that
helped me to shift my focus fromcoming home after this whole
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kidnap and rape thing.
And on the same night I cameback home, I know like people
won't believe, but I actuallyjust studied I just went to my
room.
And I was like, it's crazy whatjust happened, but I first got
to graduate.
So I just studied like for twoweeks, like a freak, like a
zombie without much sleep.
I graduated.
And then after the graduation,all my tears came down.
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It was like for my body, just somuch.
But after that, I think in termsof processing that I'm like, I
always feel no matter what Iwent through, even this whole
rape thing I feel there's thisattitude that says okay, it
happened, a trauma.
Is only a trauma in a way andonly that bad if you make it and
accept it as really bad So whileI acknowledge that I just said
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fast moving on and then Ifocused so much on my career and
entrepreneurship That it wasalmost a thing of a matter of a
week where I just got up and didit And then after three years
I'm entering a new relationshipwith my loving boyfriend today.
That was when the trauma flaredup, this is like the moment
where you're so like things youdon't even know what was like in
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you and processing.
So still of the things that likecame up like last year that I
had to process with therapistsand things.
But yeah, it's a journey forsure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I say the similar things to myclients as well.
When I'm helping them with aninjury or helping them with
pain.
Then pain is the manifestationof everything that we are from
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physical to psychosocial.
So If somebody hurts themselvesrepeatedly, like their lower
back, it can impact many partsof their life from their family,
their finances, theirrelationships, and obviously
physical health to the point ofdisablement, you saying to
yourself despite this prettylarge trauma, to try to
consolidate that trauma into asmall little box and just to
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focus on your studies and focuson your aspirations of being who
you are today.
That's very admirable.
And I try to even instill thatwith my own clients.
You might be dealing with thispain, but if you can consolidate
it and perceive that it's not aslarge and consuming as you
think, then you can start tofocus on the other aspects of
life that are more meaningful.
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The family around you, your kidsand then you can start to live
your life.
Pain just becomes this smallinstance of your life and not
this large, overconsuming cloud.
I think that you did that very,I think that you did that very
well.
My, my question is, did you, doyou feel like after all that,
You were obviously experiencedsome shock, then you started to
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feel a sense of you started tofeel more of those like flares
coming up when you had a new,over the, between those times of
the abusive relationships and tothe point where you start a new
relationship.
Did you experience anything likethis thing called mind body
connection where you had thispsychological trauma, but then
it started to manifest itself asphysical symptoms, superficial
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symptoms, like some people startto develop.
Yeah.
stomach issues or they start todevelop pain in their body.
Did you experience any likephysical symptoms as a result of
emotional trauma?
Yes, sure.
So after that time, I think it Iwas first doing good.
Like physically I was alwayslike very like in shape fit.
Like it was just, I think goodDNA.
And I.
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Was I was like taking care ofmyself.
However, I realized after beingin a relationship with now my
loving boyfriend for about fouryears, 2021 I met him and it was
the time where I feel I wasstill doing okay ish because I
did a lot of the healing workbefore entering a new
relationship.
And I always talk this aboutalso my new upcoming book.
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It's called marry yourself.
And this is the concept thatreally healed me.
It speaks about using chaos as amirror towards your given
purpose.
It speaks about deeper levels ofself commitment and self
worthiness.
So the more self worthiness Ihave, the more money I made, the
more I had better relationshipand anything else in life.
And so is it for health?
But I think the process where Icould physically feel something
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was like really going bad was2022, 2023.
I started to have recurringinfection, UTI.
I had all types of sicknesses,like migraines, and it was
getting so bad to the pointwhere.
Where in 2022, I almost diedactually in hospital in New
York.
I had the whole blood poison.
I was in Nepal in an emergencystation last year during peace
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conference.
And and also I had a skin eczemafor 12 years that I had like
even years ago, from probably alot of teenager stress, the
divorce, my parents went throughthis year it became unbearable.
I was.
Completely knocked out.
I could not get out of bedanymore.
I was crying at the beginning ofthis year.
I'm really depressed.
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And as a business owner, this iseven double frustrating because
you cannot perform.
So that's where I changed mywhole lifestyle.
So I really believe it's.
It's two things.
Like one thing is like you, youhave to do obviously the mindset
work and you can do all type ofpositive thinking and stuff, but
at the end of the day, they arealso physical things that needs
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to be treated.
I had to release toxins.
The liver was full of toxinsand.
And people don't talk about itthese days that the modern life
like the food that we eat theair that we breathe All of these
things how it toxicated me overyears and there was also abuse
that I tolerated to myself,coffees running on energy drinks
allowing toxic relationships, soit's not just like toxin from
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foods, but it's like toxins fromrelationships And I radically
Eliminated all of these things.
And then within three months, myskin eczema started to
disappear.
And this is like where, Iunderstood this whole body and
PTSD.
It's a real thing because yourbrain has a chemical balance
imbalance.
And it's, and people talk about,Oh you have a thick skin, but
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what they're actually saying islike people who have a thick
skin.
game.
They have more reserve onglucose and it uses up when you
have a lot of the traumas andPTSD.
And I started to study all ofthese topics in and out.
And now I, help people withbusiness and with the life and
house together.
Yeah.
So how do you feel that, withPTSD There's an, there's a
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increase or chronic overload ofcortisol secretion and cortisol
and disturb many areas of thebody from, for women like your
estrogen levels, it can disturbyour testosterone and I know
women given that they have acertain amount of testosterone.
You deplete that even as well,and then you, your body feels
malaise, it feels weak and alsocan disturb the ability to
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absorb food, obviously, becausecortisol dampers insulin, which,
therefore, you're not able toutilize glucose as readily for,
you exercise or even just day today activities.
So with that being said how,what were the steps for you that
you took?
When you had eczema andmigraines and you're can get out
of bed, was it all, was itmainly dietary?
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Was it like physical health?
Did you start walking more?
Did you start to do more breathwork?
If you don't mind like detailingthat for people, for maybe
anybody that's dealt with traumaor PTSD, I love your insight on
what you were able to do foryourself.
Yes, sure.
So before I, suggest certainthings like physically that you
can consume, I think the firstthing it is really the mindset.
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And for me, it was really thiswhole marry yourself, self
commitment.
You have to commit and loveyourself.
I'm a woman of faith, so Ibelieve in God.
So whoever you believe in, Ithink by faith is foundation.
And the second thing is likereally purpose.
Because I, I cannot name itenough, but it wouldn't be like
without purpose where I would behere every time it's purpose,
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percept, perspective shift thathelped me to keep going.
And then once you know yourpurpose, once you really anchor
into that and you base youridentity into something
permanent and not based on yourfeelings, how you feel, because
then your life is like reallywobbly and like a drunk yard.
But if you put it into God, it'spermanent and that's the base.
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After that, it was for medrinking celery juice.
So celery juice, I believe is anatural God given healer.
It really flushed out so manytoxins.
So you can start with 16 to 35ounces every day with celery
juice in the morning.
So without adding water becausewater is doesn't make it
effective enough.
So you wake up, make drink acelery juice.
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Usually it's one whole cellarstack per adult person.
Then you wait 20 to 30 minutes.
And then you can eat the lightbreakfast and then go on and
then no fats usually in themorning are extreme and I'm
speaking especially to those whodeal with skin eczema and if you
have a very sluggish liverbecause most eczemas, they come
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from the liver.
You can do start to do this andalso and to make it really
relevant is what reallysurprised me is that celery
juice can also decrease ADHDautism.
It helped people, heal fromcancer and so many other
illnesses, gut health as well.
After you do this for a while,like it can be 30 days and, most
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likely actually part of yourlongterm lifestyle there are
different detox method that Ialso teach, like a lot of food.
Fruits, the veggies, it's oftenthe things that you probably
know, but then doing is theother thing.
So for me, like understanding todecrease the things that, it's
not good, probably likeprocessed foods and like sugary
drinks, caffeine, there's a lotof food betrayers that you need
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to know just by eliminating themfor me, 80 percent of my
symptoms were gone.
So it was like gluten.
I avoided weeds allergy.
You have to like, no.
Allergies that you have withsensitives, so this is the thing
like have like more bodyawareness and observing it maybe
journal it.
And then the last steps is youcan support your health journey
(18:53):
with also tea and herbs.
I had no idea that, thyme tea,there is hibiscus tea for
sluggish liver.
And I just started to drink likeliters of Very specific teas,
everyday celery juice, everydayfruits and veggie.
And then, when I work instead ofsitting all the time, I used to
just incorporate like littlestretchings and getting up every
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30, 50 minutes, which for me wasa huge progress.
It sounds like a little, but itdoes a lot.
So yeah, I think this is thethree steps where, how you can
get started.
For sure.
Yeah.
It's, I didn't know about celeryjuice, but I think that's a.
It's a really great fact forpeople to know.
I'm curious if like just eatinga celery stick is the same thing
as juicing it and whether it hasthe same type of context.
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And I, yeah I do believe thatexercise, stretching, walking,
getting up out of your seat,considering where it mainly a
computer driven society.
And most of us, we decay at thedesk.
Is really pivotal.
Like walking just gets betterfluid exchange out of your
lungs.
It prevents pneumonia.
It prevents chronic hip and lowback pain as well.
So there obviously exercise is ahuge catalyst and it is what
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exactly Ozden said is thatadmitting that you need to
accept that change, whetherit's.
Whether you are religious andyou are a, just like how I am,
I'm a man of faith, and Ibelieve in God as well that,
that could be something thatshifts your perspective and
starts to make those massivechanges.
Even then, whether you're notreligious and you're just like,
hey, I need to contemplatechange, you need to shift your
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perspective.
Contemplation stage into, prepreparation and action stage.
And those kind of are yourthoughts is you can listen to
this podcast and simply just belike, wow, that was a great
podcast.
That hasn't been jaded.
Or you can decide, after this,I'm going to actually journal
things out.
I'm going to make a plan.
I'm going to write it down.
I'm going to send a contract tomyself and I'm actually going to
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really make the changes that Iwant to change my health, my
financial career.
Anything that you feel.
And I think that outside of justtrauma, Ozzin is that you have
triumphed in many differentways.
You're physically stronger, moreresilient.
You're inspiring more people andnot that everyone has to be an
entrepreneur, but for anybodythat's listening, everything
comes together from yourphysical mental health, from
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your relations and finances,everything's tied together.
And one thing that youdefinitely hit on that I always
hit on too, is your purpose.
If you're not purpose driven, ifyou don't have purpose for life,
you're depleting as far aseverything that's, that could
drive you.
So what would you say to anybodythat has dealt with something
similar to you?
Whether it's a trauma, whetherthey are trying to improve their
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financial or their physicalhealth.
What are some of the main, let'ssay one or two pieces of advice
that you usually give to likeyour own clients, your own
followers?
Yes, sure.
So I think the first thing thathelped me to heal and you can
also do is called expressionwork.
I do this a lot of the time.
So it's you have to imagineyourself.
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Flower garden or is blossomingand I think the, no matter if
you're somebody that wants toexpand their personal brand or
if it's you in healing, I thinkat the end of the day, it's like
you showing the version you'vealways having you and becoming
more naked.
So it's also the same thing Manypeople are trying to be like
sugar, like you people pleasing.
And you're also in your contentmaybe not standing on the values
(22:08):
and things that you trulybelieve in because you don't
want to let people down.
People want to be liked and it'svery normal, but I think where I
started to heal is to stop beingsugar and become salt, become
bitter, but in a sense you'renot for everyone and that's very
okay.
And I think learning how toexpress that.
And it's like a very artistic.
Being for me was like playingpiano.
It was journaling was like,getting really creative, was
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writing, but another part washonestly, the moment I shared my
story publicly about rape andkidnap a, I did it for this
particular women who wanted tocommit suicide on that night,
she wrote me, but at the sametime, what it did was while I
gave a speech at Kensingtonpalace in 2023 and that same
month.
My skin eczema reduced by 40%.
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And that was for me so insane.
I felt like it was almost amiracle.
So sometimes just letting it outsharing and, whilst you help
people, you help yourself, youheal as you go and that, and you
have to find out like what andhow you want to express it.
And then the second part is, asI mentioned about marrying
yourself.
So this whole concept is numberone within marrying yourself.
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I talk about letting go of anolder identity of you.
You have to divorce yourself inorder to marry your new version.
You cannot be both.
And you, you put down and writedown three wedding wows that you
give yourself, like for example,for next year, what are the
wedding wows?
And they have to be rooted inyour new identity.
Like you're this type of personand separate all type of other
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things that, doesn't serve you.
And it's a lot about translatingthe experiences you want inside
of your business and alsooutside of life.
So the biggest mistake peopledo, even in business is like
they build something and thenthey realize they really hate
what they've built, like thestructure or maybe the coaching
delivery, whatever system youhave.
And same thing forrelationships.
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So the first thing of marryingyourself is when you set those
new wedding wows, look into whatdo you want to experience?
For example, for me in business,it was like, I want to wake up
on autopilot of sales.
I want to travel with the world,with my boyfriend.
I want to go anywhere when Ican.
I wanted to not rely on onecoaching for like my revenue
(24:23):
streams.
I want this type of lovingrelationship where I felt really
physically, mentally,emotionally on all levels.
So all these things, once I wasclear, I could translate from
there, my business model, and Icould also manifest the things
really much faster in terms ofwhat type of relationship I
wanted.
So yeah, you can start withthese things of like really
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identifying the experiences andmake yourself a wedding while
contract and then really sign itand put it somewhere where you
can see it daily.
And then the other thing is.
Find a way to express yourself,music, arts, whoever you are,
whatever you, but letting it outand be okay not to be liked by
everyone.
Absolutely.
I feel like you hit on so manygood points.
One book that always comes tomind with me cause I, I pride
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myself on having really goodmovement habits and exercising a
lot.
Atomic habits by James clear.
It's one book that.
Really speaks to me.
He even talks about how youcould technically write a
contract to yourself.
And, if you break that contract,there's consequences, or you can
write a contract and send it toyour wife or your partner.
And if you break that contract,you owe them something.
So I think there's a lot of,there's a lot to say around you
(25:31):
contemplating change and justsaying to yourself Oh, I'm going
to take these action stepsversus.
writing it down, remindingyourself every single day by
posting it like in your bathroomor in the bedroom.
So you're reminded every dayabout, this is my new identity.
And you can't, it's like tellinga smoker to not smoke.
If you tell them to not smoke,the likelihood is they're going
to fall back into faulty habitsbecause eventually that
(25:53):
motivation and discipline willwean off or the ill wear out.
But when you actually say toyourself, like the identity is I
will try not to smoke versus.
That's saying that you say toyourself is I am not a smoker,
right?
I am a healthier and a moreresilient individual that's
capable of handling any sort ofstress or any sort of
pressuring, from friends andcolleagues.
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There's a vast differencebetween saying I am, and I think
that I am is probably astatement that probably defines,
your new book, Marry Yourself.
Is you start to step into a newversion of yourself that that
really makes the changes thatyou want.
And one other book that I wantto mention, cause I feel like I
just hit on this book a lot.
Have you ever heard of the bookThe Regrets of the Dying by
Bronnie Ware?
Oh, no, I don't even know.
(26:35):
I never heard about it.
So it's a book that I even readwhen I first became an
entrepreneur as well, and it's abook by Bronnie where she's a
palliative nurse, pallipalliative nurses are nurses
that work in a setting wherepeople are literally under
deathbed or they check into thisplace and they're accepting that
they are going to pass, right?
There's have, they may be havingsomething terminal.
(26:56):
And that's just where it is, butthey, she documents a lot of
people that she's interviewed.
And there's essentially there'sfive regrets that people have
like on their deathbed But thefirst one that I think that
really hits home that you saidWas number one and this is the
very first one is I wish I hadthe courage to live a life true
to myself Not the life othersexpected.
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Oh my god, jason.
I actually recognize It's partof actually a speech that i'm
preparing for and it was exactlythe study that I took But I
didn't know it was actually abook but very true.
It ties in so perfect with whatwe say You yeah.
And so when you're living alife, that's you're being, I
guess you're being two faced oryou're starting something in
your life that you started andyou're not very passionate about
(27:40):
it, or maybe you had the passionfor it, but then you decided
Hey, this is not what I want todo.
Is you have to align your valuesand your purpose with the things
that you're wanting to do,because if you don't, then
you're just forcing the issue.
So I think for what you've beenthrough and the journey you've
been on again, what isadmirable, but too, I think
you're living a very purposedriven life, helping people with
(28:02):
their health.
Their financial health, theirphysical health.
And I think that peopledefinitely identify as such.
So if there's somebody that Ithink has gone through similar
things, I think that checkingout your content and checking
out even your new book thatcomes out we'll definitely put a
link for that, or, at least tellpeople what it is with that
(28:23):
being said, is there anythingelse that you want to leave our
audience with any like finalmessages that I think we'll.
Maybe one, maybe not necessarilycompel them to make change,
something that you definitelycan have somebody like something
that they can stick with.
I think that could take awayfrom this podcast.
Yeah, sure.
So in terms of like first yearstudies that you mentioned
about, living a life in the waythat you want, I think it's so
(28:47):
crucial.
So is the marrying yourself.
I still, a lot in the book aboutshaking off like labels,
limitations and things like thelabels put sprout from your
whole childhood.
So that is really key that youdon't marry, all those type of
things.
So you can clear up the space ofwhat you truly want and what's
like God's will for yourpurpose.
And then in terms of like whereyou can get started is I
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mentioned the first step ofmarrying yourself.
So I spoke about identity anddivorcing that part, but step
two is to Dating yourself.
So before you marry, you date,then you have engagement.
Then there is the honeymoonphase and the father's daughter
stands.
So marry yourself will guidethis or a whole sequence of an
actual marriage, but it isapplied to you.
So in the second stage, what youcan do is in the dating stage
(29:31):
how I healed my moneyrelationship.
All my life I've been reallybroke and my mom was always.
Always in lack seeing my Koreanfamily working really hard for
money.
So it was very hard to, to getout of this bubble and then say,
I want to become a millionaireand do my own business.
So that's where I took myself tomoney dates.
You can apply this also forrelationship or any other
(29:52):
department in your life.
But to make you an example, Iused to go every Monday, like to
a coffee or somewhere out.
And I used to confront all thepain avoiders that I had.
And the pain avoiders is likeshame.
It's laziness.
It's fear, like fear looking inthe bank account because like
you're fricking broke.
So instead of avoiding it, I didall the things that I was
(30:13):
avoiding.
And the more I paid attention tothe money, where it was going,
how I was feeling about it, Howstable it is, I improved a lot
my money behavior around andmoney used to make me very
emotional years ago, but now Isee that as a neutral thing, but
we give like the emotion to thatand I don't know if you heard
(30:34):
about the book about GaryChapman, the five love
languages.
The people can apply inrelationship about acts of
service physical there are somany like five love languages,
but I applied that principle tothe relationship with money.
So most people see money as athing, but I started to view
money as a boyfriend.
If money was a boyfriend, howoften would you check in with
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money?
Yeah.
So a lot of the time my toxicversion would check in maybe
once a month or once In twoweeks also I would never like
touch money.
One, one day the money wasreliable.
The other day it was totallyunreliable.
And that was the type ofbehavior I had with money.
So the more I viewed it as anactual relationship, I dated it.
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I build up this healthy loving.
This is also where money startsto flow in my whole business,
owning yourself worse and doingthe things.
So think about areas where doyou want to improve on?
You can correlate it to thewedding wows that you wrote
down, whether it's businessrelated and things, and then
start to set yourself datesevery month, every week, and
then start to pay attention toyour pain avoiders.
(31:38):
Because that's gonna, the shortterm discomfort is always better
than the longterm damage.
That really changed my lifedoing this multiple times.
And if you want to read moreabout the full book, which walks
you through the other sequencesof the whole wedding, then you
can pre order my book with thelink I just provide.
And I'll be happy if we canconnect also on social.
(31:59):
Absolutely.
Awesome.
And we'll leave a lot of that inthe description section as well.
So yeah, in, in any case I wantto thank you for your time here
and everything that you saidaligns with my values as well,
stepping into a new identity inorder to improve.
physical, mental, and evenfinancial health from marrying
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yourself and stepping intodifferent identities, I think is
so critical for anyone.
I think that even if you're notsomebody that has dealt with
trauma, just listening to thewords that we talked about in
terms of.
Changing who you are, reflectingon those things going on dates.
I think that beyond justsomething just more like
metaphorical, I think that youdefinitely gave a lot more
(32:41):
insight into things that you cando.
And so if you found anythingvaluable today from what Ozzin
said, I definitely recommend.
Connecting with her on social orand I know you, you actually
respond pretty often too.
So she's not going to ghost you.
It's not a robot either.
So also at the same time, I'llput a link into the description
(33:01):
section.
Marry yourself.
I think that's going to be abook that even I will pre order
as well.
Is there any other places or anysort of other values or things
that you want to link?
And then I can also post that inthe description as well.
Any other connections?
Yes, sure.
So yeah, asides the marryyourself book, I also run a free
health community where I sendlike short mini voice notes and
(33:24):
trainings for your everydaylife.
So if you're not really sure,where to So if know, decreasing
toxins exposure in your life, oryou're chronically sick or deal
with skin eczema, the freecommunity is a great way to
start.
It's on telegram group.
And the second thing is I inviteyou if you want more tangible
information really to get intoaction to register for my free
(33:44):
masterclass.
It's called five steps to combatskin eczema and chronic illness.
And I walk you through the exactfive things that I did,
especially this year, applyingmy whole lifestyle in a way that
you can just enjoy.
Get ahead and start perfect.
Yeah.
And I'll link all that into thedescription section.
In any case, Ozzin I know thatwe connected before I was also,
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connected onto your podcast aswell.
So I just want to thank you foryour time, your wisdom your
drive, your energy, yourpurpose, and.
No, I think that a lot of peoplethat will tune into my podcast,
I think we'll get a lot of valueand I hope that they will
connect with you.
But that's it.
What I got for this podcasttoday for the won body won life
podcast, please give us somefeedback.
Please give us a five starreview.
(34:25):
Some more people can be able toview this.
Subscribe to my podcast.
Also look up Ozzin's podcast aswell and connect with us.
We'd love to hear, what you haveto say and help you with
anything in terms of physical oreven financially related, and if
you have any sort of feedbackfor us, definitely also leave
that as a review, but anyways,Ozzin, thank you so much for
your time and we appreciate youand, hopefully a lot of people
(34:47):
will be inspired by your words.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's been a pleasure and I'mexcited for the growth and
everything's going to happen for2025.
Perfect.
Thank you so much.
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