June 18, 2025 • 39 mins
“I was skeptical of ALL pain relief programs”.
I think everyone in life should approach programs with a sense of skepticism.
You need to make sure it delivers the results you’re after.
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Meet Maria.
A 55 year old military advisor in Texas.
She struggled mightily for years with chronic neck & back pain that wouldn’t let up. She also had chronic knee pain to the point she could hardly squat or hold a baby pose.
After spending over 5K on various treatments, she was skeptical of most things.
She wanted something that was personable, kept her accountable, and gave her the tools to help herself vs being reliant on any one treatment ofr life.
After working with us, she’s been pain-free, lost 10 lbs, and has completely changed her habits and lifestyle.
She also has 0 neck and back pain and can now squat 250+ lbs, at age 55 to remind you!
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All right.
Welcome into another episode.
I am Dr.
Jason Won.
Lifestyle Physical Therapist.
We help busy parents and we helpbusy professionals worldwide.
We help them to not justeliminate chronic pain, we help
them to be the strongest and thebest versions of themselves.
We also really help to optimize.
Habits as well as looking intonutrition.
So we go through a lot of topicsthat will allow people to be
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pain-free, but in the mostholistic way.
So I have the privilege to beinterviewing one of our friends
and one of our members that hasrecently graduated from our pain
relief program, and her name isMaria.
And I'm just very excited to bewith her because I think every
single person I think I canspeak for, not just for myself,
but many other people that werepart of our program has said
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that Maria has been literallylike a.
Beacon of light.
Even since Maria, you've beengone, people have been saying
like, oh, we don't have thatperson that's constantly
cheering us on anymore.
But like I said, it's just veryit's a privilege and a joy to be
speaking with you again.
So how are you doing today?
I'm doing great.
Let me start off by saying I'm,my name is Maria Lynn.
And I live in Texas.
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My job duty is to stand a lot onmy feet provide a service for
the military within the commilitary community.
I, my job criteria is prettymuch a special service that I
provide to the military, and Ido stand a lot for long periods
of time, and a lot of that timeI'm constantly looking down.
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So this is where it brings me toyour podcast and to.
Many things that have succeededin this po you know, with, with
your team.
And I would like to share itwith everybody.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
So tell me, tell me first ofall, like how you kind of found
out about us our brand and then,yeah.
Also the, the next questionwould be, you know, where, where
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were you health wise beforejoining our program?
Well, I was I.
I, I fund you guys on Facebook.
It was not easy.
I did my research.
I was very skeptical and it wasan investment, so I had to be
very careful what I was doing.
And I, I can see your post.
I can see your family, yourfamily kind of guy and a any,
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that was a big thing on my book,you know, I said, you know, this
guy is not.
You know, doing stuff.
He's not supposed to.
He's the guy.
But it took me a little while.
I was really skeptical, but Iwent for it.
And where was I before I met youand your team?
I was in a lot of pain, a lot ofchronic pain.
My life, my life revolved aboutmy, you know, within my pain.
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Everything I did, I had to thinkabout, well, it hurts here.
Let me not do this.
It hurts there.
Let me not do that.
So that was pretty much my life.
Not enough sleep.
I was uncomfortable all the timewhile I was moving and my body
was warm.
It was fine, but on the otherdays, when it was time to go to
bed or when it was time to eat,I can feel my shoulders a
tension.
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And that's where I was before Imet you guys.
Hmm.
Yeah.
And I mean, you, you came inobviously with a, a, a myriad
of, of different ailments.
Which one of those seemed to belike the most I guess disabling
or the, the one that kind ofimpacted you the most?
I had really two, but the mostmain one was I had shoulder and
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back pain.
I remember sitting at.
The table with my husband andconstantly like this, I couldn't
bring him down no matter what Idid.
It was, I was constantly likethis.
And there was that shoulderwhere, where the shoulder meets
the shoulder blade.
It was a pain no matter what.
I sometimes felt like I had tothrow myself on the floor.
I hit it hard, so I couldn't, Idon't know, remove something,
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but I couldn't shake it off.
And I, I was with that pain forthree years.
I went to, you know, meso,meuse, I went to a chiropractor,
I did acupuncture.
I, I spent a lot of money andnothing, nothing.
So I said, you know what, what?
I got to lose the pain.
Didn't let me go to sleep.
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I wasn't happy anymore.
I was constantly grouchy.
So I said, no more.
I have to change it.
So this is where I took thestep.
Yeah.
How, and what, how, how frequentwere you doing some of the other
treatments for, and I.
Just cost-wise, what, what didyou kind of spend over the past
three years?
I spent more than about$5,000over the three years, and that's
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without counting the ones that Ithought it was.
Kind of like a Mother's day thatI would ask for Valentine's Day
just to try.
But I will go about three timesa session and a, you know, in a
month, about three times.
And, and sometimes I will go toget the massages.
I'll go maybe three, four timesin a month, but.
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I, it was a relief for period oftime, maybe for about two weeks,
and it was back again.
And I can catch myself even atthe middle of the night when I
had to use the restroom.
I can catch myself.
I gotta let it go.
So I, I would notice it was justso obvious already.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's, that, that's how much itwas.
Yeah.
And it, it, it started occurringthree years ago.
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So what.
Was in your life that kind ofcaused the pain in the first
place three years ago?
Well, a constantly thing that Ialways did, it was, you know,
my, my job, I, I would come hometired, so I would just sit in
that sofa, you know, orsometimes I would just hurry up
and eat and I was, it was late.
I would go home, come home abouteight, nine o'clock, super
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tired.
I would take a quick shower.
I would eat everything quick.
So I would sit in that sofa fora long time.
So there was.
I was not adding anything elseto my body'cause I was so
exhausted.
My legs hurt.
Everything hurt.
So I didn't wanna do anythingand, and every time something
hurts, like my legs or my back,I would just sit and I wouldn't
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do anything else.
So that was pretty much my life,my life, the way it went.
You know, I wouldn't eat right.
I will eat all the fast food,all the fried food, and.
I kept gaining weight.
I couldn't just, I couldn'tshake it off.
It was just there, I was livingaround my pain.
I was living about the, thetiredness, the issues, but I
wouldn't do anything about itbecause nothing else work that I
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thought might work.
Hmm.
What were, what were some ofthe, I guess, emotions and, and
thoughts about your currentsituation back in the day?
The fact of.
You seeking out fast foodsliving kind of like a very high
stress life, not exercising asmuch as you know, that you
should kind of seem seeminglylike running on mt.
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So at that current place, place,let's say, you know, rewind six,
seven months ago, before youstarted working with us, what
was coming to your emotionalstate at that time?
Well I didn't wanna do anything.
I didn't have that.
I don't know that stamina to dosomething or accomplish things,
you know, I was in a state of,oh my God, I'm tired and I gotta
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go home and cook.
I was being negative about all,everything that I used to do.
I try not to bring it home, butit was hard.
I was into the point where, youknow what I, why would I wanna
go walk if I'm still gonna feeldown, or I will try to indulge
myself eating late at night justto make me feel good.
And that wasn't helping.
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And, and I noticed that it wasrubbing on the people around me
and I didn't want that, youknow, so, and I, and I could
hear a lot of negative stuffcoming outta my mouth and I
said, you know what?
This is not me.
I gotta shake it off.
I have to shake it off.
So I started looking, I startedlearning more, you know, habits
and, and things that I can dountil I saw your page and all
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the questions that I had, theywere right there.
So I says, you know what thisis, I'm gonna take that chance.
And that's.
How I started changing because Iwas already, I was weighing 176
almost pounds.
I'm only, I'm a little person.
I'm five one, you know, so maybefive, you know.
'cause, you know as you getolder, I am 55 years old, right.
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And I have a lot in my plate.
I, I, I, I'm the housewife.
I cook, I clean, I come homefrom work.
No matter what time I get homefrom work, I'm cooking.
So I really didn't take any timefor myself.
So I was neglecting the time formyself, giving the time to
everybody else that needed helpexcept for me.
Do you feel like that's just youor do you feel like that's a
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common narrative amongst manymoms and No, that happens to a
lot of the moms.
I talk to a lot of women.
I, I work in an environmentwhere I meet a lot of military
women and and, and, and I'm asocial person, so I like to talk
to everybody.
I like to learn from otherpeople.
So I first thought it was justme that I was going crazy or
that was just me being, youknow, lazy and all kinds of
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names that I can call upon,which I'm not gonna call no more
'cause I'm not there anymore.
But I noticed it, it is a commonthing and, and, and a lot of
people don't talk about it, andthat's a big problem too.
So it is a common thing.
Do you find that, that's why I,I don't wanna allude to it, but
do you feel like that's a reasonwhy some people are kind of feel
like they're suffering alone orthey feel like this invisible,
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you know, pain is quiteinvisible.
Sometimes it's more externalwhen you see it in people's
faces, but do you find that doyou find that, that that's a
reason why so many people sufferin chronic pain, is because they
feel like they're kind oftreading alone in this journey?
I think so, I think we all needsomebody.
I don't care how strong you are,even the bodybuilders that look
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hot, they need, they need acoach.
So honestly, I think we needthat, that person without
judging us, without looking atthe negative part, just giving
us that boost or thatconfidence.
That we can do it.
You know, a lot of the people, Ihear that, I talk to them about
it.
They're like, oh no, that's justgetting old.
And not just, and I'm like, no,that's not true.
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I've seen, I've seen all thepeople that are like 80 and they
still running, you know, so it'snot true.
But the mentality of what we'veheard through the years kind of
puts us in this place.
Oh no, we just old.
That happens with you'cause youget old.
No.
A lot of things that we canchange that can make our lives
better.
And mobility could be, you know,better for us if we were to just
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start listening and looking forhelp.
I was one of those people Iwouldn't ask for help.
Oh, I read.
Oh, I see.
I know it all.
I didn't.
I didn't because even when Istarted with you, I said, this
is not gonna do nothing.
But since I'm investing in thisand it's for me, I'm just gonna
follow for once in my lifetimethe rules.
And that's what I did.
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Yeah.
And we, we really commend youfor you putting in the work.
You, you mentioned somethingaround before you started
working with us, you were livingkind of like a more negative
lifestyle.
You were mm-hmm.
Feeling more like a negativeNancy, even though that's not
who you are.
Right.
And my next question is for someof the treatments that you were
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seeking out.
Why do you feel like none of itreally stuck long-term with you?
And why do you feel like none ofit really brought more long-term
results?
I guess it, it didn't stuck tome because I didn't understand
certain things that I needed tounderstand, like consistency.
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Okay.
Like adapting to something new.
Mm-hmm.
Like instead of.
Everything that comes my waythinking that I know it all,
giving it a chance, you know,giving it that, that probability
that yes, this one is gonnahelp, but I used to just go and
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since I didn't see that fastresult, I would just quit it.
And I feel that it took a longtime for us to be where we are
with our bodies with pain.
You know, it's gonna take, it'sgonna take long before we can
see.
The whole bulletproof vest thatwe can become a superhero, you
know?
Mm-hmm.
So it's gonna take time.
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So I decided to breathe and slowdown and accept that we need to
focus and we need to bepersistent and dedicate
ourselves to something that wereally want for ourselves that
can make us better mentally,physically, and emotionally.
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Hmm.
I love that.
The two words that you said inthe beginning are words that
I've said on many differentpodcast episodes even on
YouTube.
Very first word is consistency,which I, I preach that really
hard.
Yeah.
To everybody in the programaround.
Nothing really, really matters.
It doesn't matter about, itdoesn't matter about form and
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technique.
It doesn't matter about, youknow, the, the nutritive
protocols that we can provide.
It's not a matter of even goodprogressive models, right around
intensity and volume, which issomething that we've said to you
at the end of the day, none ofthat really matters without you
being brutally consistent.
So.
I find that why we have such asuccessful program and why our
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clients are so successful isbecause we preach that more than
anything.
And yes, I know that, that youcan go on social media and you
can go to many places andeverybody is like, yeah.
It's like, you know, they, they,theyre, everyone's all about,
yeah, you gotta, you gottapractice what you preach.
You gotta be consistent, but,mm-hmm.
I don't think it really.
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Hits home with you, either one,unless you've hit like rock
bottom and now you have to beconsistent.
Mm-hmm.
Or two, unless you've actuallyinvested time, energy, and even
Yeah.
Financial resources in order tomake sure that you actually do
it right.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean, so yes, you, you,you came a long way, obviously.
And why do you feel like youweren't as consistent as you
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were compared to like, when youwere like really involved in the
program?
I wasn't as consistent because Iwould just say, okay, they gave
me that, do it, and I would justdo it, and then I'll fall the wa
I will fall off the wagon, startsomething new and, and it
wouldn't work for me.
And the reason was these, thebig part of understanding, first
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of all, understanding why do youreally wanna do it?
Understanding that this is aninvestment.
Having a support.
You need support.
If you don't have any support,somebody that she or you on, you
know, you need that, you needthat.
Those things kind of like, youknow, it makes sense.
You know, we had.
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When I joined, you know, yourgroup, there was a community,
there was a support, but it was,it was different than other,
other things that I've joined.
'cause I joined a kind of weightloss program or drink this or do
this and I always fall off thewagon, but I.
The consistency and rememberingand says, okay, this is gonna
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add to this.
This is gonna bring you, youknow, closer to your goals.
Why is this gonna happen?
It's understanding, it's a bigthing.
Understanding why you're doingit, what they do, what are the
things that are gonna, you know,compliment those things.
It's not just go do you know, ahundred sit up and you're gonna
lose weight.
How are you gonna get there?
You know, a lot of these placesor they tell you, so do this, a
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hundred sits a hundred this.
But what happens to body muscle?
Understanding that.
So understanding how you'regonna get where you wanna get,
but what are the things thatare, it's kind of like an
octopus.
Octopus has the head, right?
But if it doesn't have thetentacles, how is it gonna move?
So the tentacles provide all theinformation that you need for
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this, for that to this, to makethat whole brain move.
Where it is.
So to me it's understandingwhere you going and how you
gonna get there.
Mm.
If you don't know that it's notgonna work.
Yeah.
So two things.
One is having clear direction,mm-hmm.
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Which is, you, you, you, you hada program that you got
evaluated.
You got assessed.
We looked at your movement andthen therefore.
You kind of had clear, veryconcerted direction on, you
know, if I do A, this will yieldB.
Right?
That's right.
And if I do B will yield C.
And seems like maybe some otherstuff that you have tried there
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wasn't always like that.
You know, that that clearpicture of like, if I do A,
there's B because.
You know, if you get manualtherapy, for example, and
nothing wrong with manualtherapy, but if you just kind of
get that in isolation, thenthere's really no B at all.
It's really just, oh, your B iscome back and see me next month.
Mm-hmm.
Or come back and see me nextweek.
So, and the other thing thatyou, you mentioned that it's a
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little, it was a little bit lessconcise on what you said, but
shiny, shiny object syndrome.
I'm not sure if you are familiarwith what that is, but I used to
have that too, especially.
When I was growing my physicaltherapy practice there was a lot
of people out there promisingthat they can help you to grow
your physical therapy practiceor grow your coaching business.
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And so you would try things.
I've had various mentors, someof them good, some of them bad,
and in the same fashion as you,Maria, you know, you've had good
mentors and not so good mentors,right?
But shiny object is like, yeah,when you, when you are searching
for a solution, but you see thenthat.
Maybe the results didn't come asquickly as you wanted it to, so
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then you're kind of looking forthe next best thing, right?
And then you're looking for thenext best thing.
And then none of it reallycreates any consistency at all
because you're really justlooking for what is the next
kind of like program?
Mm-hmm.
Or what's, what's the nextcoaching thing that I can kind
of invest in without reallysticking to, you know, a
long-term plan.
So question here is I reallyhope that you know our program.
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It would hopefully be like thelast thing that you kind of need
long term.
Mm-hmm.
So that you can get stronger onyour own.
But what kind of made this, whatkind of made this feel like this
would be like the last thingthat you ever need?
What kind of tools do you feellike you are that, what kind of
tools do you know right nowwhere you can kind of guarantee
like, oh, I can just kind ofrely on myself now?
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Okay.
How would I say that?
How about you phrase that in adifferent way so I can more
understand what you're trying tosay.
What is the, what are like maybetwo to three tools that you've
learned from us, which makes youfeel more of a guarantee that
you don't have to seek outanother coaching program?
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Like what kind of tools arethose?
So the tools I would say that Ifound here, three of them.
One of them would be the waythey costume, they costume, the,
your workouts, you know,according to your persona,
according to, you know, what'sgoing on with your body.
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A second tool is showing up,showing up for meetings that we
had on the web, you know,communicating, hearing other
people talk about.
What they going through.
'cause a pain that I had today,I may not remember.
I still have it, but I don'tremember.
And somebody might say, and Isay, oh, that's what I have.
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And it kind of gives you an openconsciousness, okay, this is
where it's going and that I canalways relay back and you can
always, you know, kind of moldmy program towards my, my faith.
Another one is thecommunication.
The communication, the communitysupport.
You know, the, the differentoutcomes in different people,
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how you can relate or put'emtogether.
And another thing was, which itwas hard for me to do, oh my
gosh.
It was jotting down what you do.
Mm-hmm.
Reporting everything that youeat, everything that you do so
you can see what you was beforeand what is after.
Hmm.
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And that was the big one thingthat I can say that I would've
wished from the get go Iwould've done, which I'm doing
now, and I am advancing morefaster than what it was when I
was in your program, because Iwas so, I don't know.
I was kind of like, I knoweverything.
I know everything, but I don'tknow everything.
Yeah.
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Even though I've learned so muchfrom everybody and I like to
learn from people, I'm stilllearning.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
The, the fourth one that youmentioned was really critical
around jotting down, or Yeah.
Measuring your results.
And it's not just in your headmeasuring results because that
can Right.
You know, you, you could have apoor day of sleep and not
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remember how many squats you didthe next day, right?
Yeah.
So being able to log downwhether it's like your nutrition
or log down the exact sets,reps, and weight that you do,
allows you to have more clearand concise.
Decision making Absolutely.
For the next workout.
So you are progressing thatspecific exercise consistently.
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Mm-hmm.
And I believe, if I'm notmistaken, you know, one of your
biggest wins that you sharedwith us that we always keep
hitting on, like what you werehitting a certain squat weight
right?
After having a lot of chronicknee pain.
Like what?
You know what, what, what big PRdid you hit?
Two 50.
Oh, you're hitting two 50 now.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I remember that I couldn'tsquat I couldn't even do a baby
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post because I could feel the,it was like my feet were like
super swollen.
I.
And at the same time, there wasreally no mobility.
All I do in my job is stand upstraight, do what I need to do,
look down, do what I need tofinish and move to the next job.
But that's what I do.
And sometimes I spend eighthours in one spot doing the same
thing.
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So I'll come home and sit down,no mobility.
I will sit down.
There goes my, my hips, my legs.
And then once again, all mytables, I'm a little person.
My feet hang.
So that's not good for me'causeI'm not even touching the floor.
But now let me tell you, I cantell you I can even do like a
froggy, I can even some of myjob in a, some part of my job
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criteria, I have to bend down.
Mm-hmm.
And now it's so easy to benddown and come back up.
Before I had to strain myselfand I said, oh my God, I hope
nobody's looking.
Am I really gonna get up?
That now I can do it.
I can do it.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
So going from squatting, noteven your body weight and your
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knees were hurting, and evenjust holding a baby pose was
tough to lifting.
Now a 250 pound squat.
That's right.
Yeah.
85.
Mm-hmm.
So what does that say foranybody that feels like.
Is a factor, right?
Yeah.
I, I, I will say, Hey, you, if Ican do it, you can do it.
And I have a busy, busy, busyschedule, but I decided, hey, if
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I'm walking from my, from oneroom to the end of the other
room, guess what?
I'm gonna do some squatting, I'mgonna do some leg, you know,
some launches.
Right?
That's how you say it.
Yep.
And, and that's, and everymoment I try to use my time.
What I can do, like right now,I'm right here with you.
I'm at a pocket of course, but Ihave my little weights right
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here, so, so I can make surethat when I getting something,
I'll lift, you know?
Yeah.
So you can keep busy, but youcan do it little at a time.
Strike little at a time.
A lot of people wanna startstrong.
They wanna do.
I don't know.
Start soft.
That's what I like about yourprogram.
You started soft and I said, oh,I want it.
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This is really gonna work.
But it did work and I love itbecause it went from, from
lightweight to stronger andstronger.
And I didn't start off rightaway with weights.
It just getting my body ready.
It was like conditioning mybody.
It's like when you, when yousay, okay, I'm gonna wash my
hair.
Let me, we it first.
Okay, now I'm gonna wash it.
Okay, now I'm gonna conditionit.
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So pretty much that's how thewhole process went and it went
smooth and I loved it.
So you feel that, you feel,honestly,'cause you, you came in
with a little bit of workoutexperience.
Do you find that anybody that islooking for a solution that
whether they're intermediate ormore advanced weightlifter, or
even if like, let's say they'rebeginner, that it would be
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appropriate for most levels?
I would say yes.
I would say it would beappropriate for.
I think for other levels really.
Even though I used to, I haveknowledge of working out and
lifting weights, I was, my bodywas very tight in every way, in
every aspect.
I, my mobility was, you know, soand I, and I meet some friends
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that I talk to that theybodybuilders and their mobility
not so good.
Mm-hmm.
So to me, the program is perfectno matter how bad the condition
is because I've, I've seen thecommunity and we have a lot of
people that have gone through alot of changes.
Mm-hmm.
And they're lifting weights now,and, and I'm so proud of them.
So I, to me, I, to me it is forevery level.
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Every level.
Yeah.
Any, not, not to name anybody.
'cause we don't wanna, you know.
Right.
Just, just for, for privacysake, but was there anybody that
you can describe in particularthat you either were, they were
your accountability partner, orit's somebody that you felt like
just as proud as you were ofyourself, that you were just as
proud as them?
Yes.
Oh, I met a couple of them.
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We had a really, well while Iwas, before I graduated the
group, we had a big group and wehad a lot of, a lot of community
members.
I.
That's, I can see they startedoff, nah, negative, but I, I saw
the positivity on them and Ieven show somebody, so one of
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our girls show the muscles howthey getting there, the muscles
going on, you know, so they'reexcited because they're moving
forward.
Even the people that said, ohno, I can't do it, or that said
a lot of negative stuff, they'renot talking negative anymore.
And I see that in all of'em saidto me.
All the girls, all the peoplethat are now, it's like a big
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win to everybody.
'cause I can see everybodyputting it in the community
shot, oh, today I did this.
Oh, today I broke my record.
You know, so to me, everybodydifferent levels, I think
everybody's really positiveabout what they're going through
here.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
We, we, we clearly have a lot ofour clients are, are female, but
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we do have a couple select malesthat are in the program that.
Just as good of results.
I know that there was one inparticular that started around
the same time as you, and youknow, it went from chronic knee
and low back and sciatica painand, you know, lost at least 20
plus pounds.
His A1C levels went down.
Yeah.
His doctors are saying like,he's no longer full-blown
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diabetes.
He's more like pre-diabetic andmm-hmm.
Continues to lower his A1C.
So his diabetes is, well noteven managed, but like, we're
almost completely reversing it.
And I saw changes in you tooaround once he starts to track
your nutrition, get your proteinup.
We started to see pretty bigchanges with like the weight
loss.
Obviously we started to see you,you know, progress the weight
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extremely at, at, at anextremely high level.
And that's why I think thatthat's why, you know, you
deserve the spot, you know, onyou deserve the spotlight, you
know, for, for today.
There was one thing that youwanted to share with the group
or anybody that's listeningright now, and I guess the word
is skepticism, right?
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Or mm-hmm.
And another light to, to, toflip the script.
It, it's trust.
Trust is something that I.
Really value with our clients.
I do value also something calleda therapeutic alliance, which is
when you can trust yourpractitioner you trust that they
have the best intentions, youtrust that they're not just
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doing it for their job that itincrease.
The pos, it increases a positiveoutcome by about 50% according
to research.
Mm-hmm.
Versus, you know, you just cameinto your doctor at a, at a
clinic and you just see thatthey're kind of doing further
job.
You're seeing like a local,you're just getting like your
annual screen you don't thinkmuch of it.
Right.
And usually changes don't happenfor that person.
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So question here is you, youclearly have tried a lot.
You spend over 5K in a threeyear spend prior to joining us.
Mm-hmm.
And then investing.
Almost just as much amount as asthat into a few month program.
Why did you decide to take thatleap?
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You know, we spend all kinds ofmoney besides those mentioned,
but if I can go to McDonald's,spend that money, if I can go
and drink some alcohol, which isno good for you, if I can go and
buy a bunch of clothing that isstill sitting in the closet, I
said, you know what?
Inviting my friends to eat,paying their food.
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I said, let me invest one thing.
And you know what's funny?
It was my secret.
I invested that one thing for meand I said, if I don't do it
this time, it's my fault.
It's my fault because look whereI'm going.
If I don't hurry up and make achange, my mother's diabetic.
My mother died of colon cancer.
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My father's diabetic, prettymuch, my family has chronic
pain.
My sister has all kinds ofproblems, and I says, you know
what?
I better do something.
'cause soon I'm gonna be one ofthem and I don't want to, I
wanna be able to live for me andfor my husband.
So I said, this is where I gottado the decision and I am here.
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So I, I am.
I am thankful.
I am thankful that I met you andthat you are a health aholic
because you are contagious.
So I'm I.
Thank you for that.
For the Truly for my heart.
Yeah.
I appreciate that the healthaholic word is a, it's an
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understatement because Icontinue to, yeah.
I'm, I'm constantly in the gym,constantly lifting my kids up
and down, using them asdumbbells.
They don't even know it, but I'mjust, I'm just utilizing their
small little bodies.
Yeah.
Dumbbells.
Word, word that comes to mindthat I want to hit on probably
in another episode isredistribution, right.
So redistribution in my eye isredistribution of your time.
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Redistribution of your energy.
Yes.
Redistribution of your, yourresources towards things that
truly matter and truly instantneedle forward in your life at
some point.
So let's say for example, youknow, you see this investment
on, let's say it's Airbnb orsome sort of like.
Some sort of thing for sidehustle.
So we're talking about finances.
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And so if you see that there isa direct ROI, right?
You're like, okay, if I give, ifI put a thousand dollars into
this thing, it's gonna give me$3,000, which, what person in
the world if you can guaranteethat would, would not take that,
right?
Because clearly I give you$1,Maria, you gimme$3, duh, I'm
gonna do that all day, right?
And so, so that's theredistribution, right?
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Because you could be spendingmoney on, like I said, alcohol.
Clothing that you don't wear gymmemberships that you're not
using.
Yeah, that's right.
Fast food that you're eating ona weekly basis.
'cause your body's stressed outand you know, you just wanna sit
there.
You, you look at your bills andyou're like, oh shoot, I already
spent like 800 to a thousanddollars this month on.
That's right, yeah.
Stuff that is either not intoNeo Forward or it's just
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completely useless and youdecided, hey, I'm going to.
Redistribute some of these, myfinances towards doing a four
figure program like this, right?
And so you can see that afterfour months, it's, it's, it's
radically transformed the waythat you, that you appear to
other people.
It's re it's, your quality oflife is better.
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And so now, the next fourmonths, the next eight months,
the next 12 months, the nextcouple years are now brighter.
They are pain free.
And now you're making betterdecisions around.
That's okay.
I shouldn't eat.
Yeah.
I shouldn't seek out the fastfood or I shouldn't, I shouldn't
wear this type of clothing.
Right.
So the in anyways, theredistribution of energy and
time and resources is somethingI think really people don't
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understand because so manypeople say, I'm time strapped.
Okay, well, if you redistributethat time towards working out
more, maybe you become moreefficient.
You are, have more energy.
So you don't spend, you know,two hours napping, you know,
napping and.
You know what I mean?
So like your, your body and yourenergy levels dra dramatically
improve because you decided toredistribute your energy towards
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something that really matters.
Right.
So I don't know if any of thatkind of hits home Maria, but it
does.
It does.
You get in a nutshell.
Yeah, it does.
I have ever since I started andI, and I graduated, now I sit
down and I focus and I said, youknow, I did this, that.
Not only that, my, my stamina,my wanna do things, my
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possibility of things that I cando have come to a light.
And I had this, a bunch ofpaperwork and, and I had all
kinds of things that I needed todo that I've been saying for
years.
I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna doit.
And he kept sitting in thatcorner.
And I have lost some weight.
I was at 175, maybe 77, and nowI'm at 1 67.
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And, and, and not even trying,but it's just what I've learned.
I didn't know that protein wassuch a big factor.
Ever since I put protein in inmy diet, I'm losing the weight
and I'm like, wait a minute, nowI'm losing the inches.
I used to have a round face.
Now I have a less of a roundface, but it give me motivation.
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You know, and it gives mesomething for the, my whole, my
whole way of thinking changed.
I make it to church now.
When I was, oh no, I gotta, Ican, I'm so tired, I'm not gonna
go.
And I go every Sunday, you know,I have changed a lot of stuff.
I'm walking every morning beforeI was like, yeah, I'm gonna get
up Allina.
And now it's like, wait aminute, brush my teeth, let me
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check the weight, let me getwalking.
So I do the walking in themorning, and then in the
afternoon I go and I do mylittle weight.
Sessions.
So it has changed the way Ithink.
It has changed my life from painto power, you know, from limited
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to no limitations, you know?
So I love it.
I love it.
It's helped a lot.
Mentally, physically, again, youknow, I, I, it's hard for me to
describe.
I can cry and I would cry, andthat's how much I can describe
of it.
But it was the best investment,the best investment I made in my
life.
And I would say to anybody totake that chance, not to be
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afraid.
I would take it if I had to doit all over again.
This time I'll do a step by stepwithout missing one step, adding
down my stuff.
Yeah, it's all everybody.
In hindsight, kind of be perfpicture perfect from day one.
And the reality is that 99% ofpeople, in order to do something
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more dramatic for your health,which is like we talk about,
what we talk about a lot in ourprogram, is you can't just wing
it.
You can't just, that's it, be inand out.
You can't just be again, tinyobject going from one place to
another.
It's like you have to be.
100, you know, 1000% committedto the process.
And if you're not, then you'renot a good fit.
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Right.
But you know, I, I obviouslyeverybody that comes into the
program who they, they got intothe program and they wanted to
do the program because theirlifestyle, I.
Was not the most conduciveRight.
For their health and theirquality of life.
Right?
And so you just let you know,Maria if you're guilt tripping
yourself about it, there'snobody in the program at all
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that just starts off absolutelyon fire from day one, even
though like you were pretty damnclose to it, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So don't, don't worry aboutthat.
My last thing for my last thinghere is obviously if, if anybody
wants to.
Apply to work with us, or ifanybody is feeling in the same
way, empowered by Maria youknow, we have a website that you
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can easily fill out anapplication.
Feel free to book a call.
The website, just let you guysknow.
We'll put in a description.
Isgo.flexwithdoctorjay.com/apply.
go.flexwithdoctorjay.com/apply.
Just fill out the intake formbook in for into our calendar,
and hopefully you can besomebody like Maria who you
know, decides willingly thatthey want to redistribute their,
(36:34):
their energy time resources intosomething that will dramatically
change your life for the betterand their health and the people
around them as well, which isreally important.
So lastly, Maria, if there'sanything.
Specifically that you wanted toleave our viewers with anything
that will empower them, anythingthat will effectively encourage
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them to make the changes.
What would, what would be thosewords either in one, two, or
even three sentences?
Well, I would say invest inyourself and remember that this
is not about losing weight.
This is not about.
Looking cute yesterday ortomorrow, and then the next day
(37:16):
you hurting again.
This is about investing in yourbody, in your mobility for life.
You know, not just temporary forevery moment and every minute.
A lot of us like to take thehighway quick, make it short,
it's not gonna work.
Trust me, I've done all that.
It doesn't work.
(37:36):
The pills, this, that, that'stemporary.
You need some.
You need a solution for lifeguarantee for yourself, and this
is the way to go and this is thereal thing.
You're not gonna waste yourtime.
Trust me.
I already did it and if I coulddo it again, I'll do it again.
It's worth it.
I recommend it to everybody overthere.
Don't think twice and ask thequestions.
(37:59):
He'll answer for you.
He's dedicated.
He loves doing this.
He loves helping people, so gofor it.
I recommend it.
Thank you, Dr.
Jay.
I really appreciate you and yourgroup for helping me so much.
Yeah, I, I do with the bottom tothe end to where you can find my
heart is all for you.
Thank you so much.
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Yeah.
And I, I want to thank you forbeing here and for obviously
sharing your, you can clearlysee by the, by the way that you
speak, that after you, after yougraduated, that you were
severely missed by our groupbecause you were such a thank.
A beacon of light to all theother ladies and men that were
in the group.
So you're still having peoplestill have remnants of Maria in
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the program and we'd love Yeah.
You know, we'd obviously love towelcome you back in as a guest
and everything too, and you'llstill be a part of our family.
With all that said, like I said,if anybody is interested in.
And working with us, go togo.flexwithdoctorjay.com/apply.
Yes, fill out the application,book a call.
You'll be speaking with me or myteam and we'll see how we can
help you to kind of build out avery similar roadmap that Maria
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and many of our clients havetaken.
And even if not willing to takethat leap we still have a number
of free resources, YouTube.
Podcast, Won Body, Won Life.
You can pretty much search up,flexwithdoctorjay on any
different platform.
I know that Maria is stillfollowing from afar.
Yeah, yeah.
Seeing her like, comment, shareuhhuh and I really appreciate
that too.
So with all that said, Maria,thank you so much for your time.
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Thank you.
Thank you so much for yourpositivity and I'm sure we'll be
in touch.
Alright, take care.
Bye.
All right.
Welcome into another episode.
I am Dr.
Jason Won.
Lifestyle Physical Therapist.
We help busy parents and we helpbusy professionals worldwide.
We help them to not justeliminate chronic pain, we help
them to be the strongest and thebest versions of themselves.
We also really help to optimize.
Habits as well as looking intonutrition.
So we go through a lot of topicsthat will allow people to be
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pain-free, but in the mostholistic way.
So I have the privilege to beinterviewing one of our friends
and one of our members that hasrecently graduated from our pain
relief program, and her name isMaria.
And I'm just very excited to bewith her because I think every
single person I think I canspeak for, not just for myself,
but many other people that werepart of our program has said
(00:44):
that Maria has been literallylike a.
Beacon of light.
Even since Maria, you've beengone, people have been saying
like, oh, we don't have thatperson that's constantly
cheering us on anymore.
But like I said, it's just veryit's a privilege and a joy to be
speaking with you again.
So how are you doing today?
I'm doing great.
Let me start off by saying I'm,my name is Maria Lynn.
And I live in Texas.
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My job duty is to stand a lot onmy feet provide a service for
the military within the commilitary community.
I, my job criteria is prettymuch a special service that I
provide to the military, and Ido stand a lot for long periods
of time, and a lot of that timeI'm constantly looking down.
(01:27):
So this is where it brings me toyour podcast and to.
Many things that have succeededin this po you know, with, with
your team.
And I would like to share itwith everybody.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much for beinghere.
So tell me, tell me first ofall, like how you kind of found
out about us our brand and then,yeah.
Also the, the next questionwould be, you know, where, where
(01:48):
were you health wise beforejoining our program?
Well, I was I.
I, I fund you guys on Facebook.
It was not easy.
I did my research.
I was very skeptical and it wasan investment, so I had to be
very careful what I was doing.
And I, I can see your post.
I can see your family, yourfamily kind of guy and a any,
(02:12):
that was a big thing on my book,you know, I said, you know, this
guy is not.
You know, doing stuff.
He's not supposed to.
He's the guy.
But it took me a little while.
I was really skeptical, but Iwent for it.
And where was I before I met youand your team?
I was in a lot of pain, a lot ofchronic pain.
My life, my life revolved aboutmy, you know, within my pain.
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Everything I did, I had to thinkabout, well, it hurts here.
Let me not do this.
It hurts there.
Let me not do that.
So that was pretty much my life.
Not enough sleep.
I was uncomfortable all the timewhile I was moving and my body
was warm.
It was fine, but on the otherdays, when it was time to go to
bed or when it was time to eat,I can feel my shoulders a
tension.
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And that's where I was before Imet you guys.
Hmm.
Yeah.
And I mean, you, you came inobviously with a, a, a myriad
of, of different ailments.
Which one of those seemed to belike the most I guess disabling
or the, the one that kind ofimpacted you the most?
I had really two, but the mostmain one was I had shoulder and
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back pain.
I remember sitting at.
The table with my husband andconstantly like this, I couldn't
bring him down no matter what Idid.
It was, I was constantly likethis.
And there was that shoulderwhere, where the shoulder meets
the shoulder blade.
It was a pain no matter what.
I sometimes felt like I had tothrow myself on the floor.
I hit it hard, so I couldn't, Idon't know, remove something,
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but I couldn't shake it off.
And I, I was with that pain forthree years.
I went to, you know, meso,meuse, I went to a chiropractor,
I did acupuncture.
I, I spent a lot of money andnothing, nothing.
So I said, you know what, what?
I got to lose the pain.
Didn't let me go to sleep.
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I wasn't happy anymore.
I was constantly grouchy.
So I said, no more.
I have to change it.
So this is where I took thestep.
Yeah.
How, and what, how, how frequentwere you doing some of the other
treatments for, and I.
Just cost-wise, what, what didyou kind of spend over the past
three years?
I spent more than about$5,000over the three years, and that's
(04:26):
without counting the ones that Ithought it was.
Kind of like a Mother's day thatI would ask for Valentine's Day
just to try.
But I will go about three timesa session and a, you know, in a
month, about three times.
And, and sometimes I will go toget the massages.
I'll go maybe three, four timesin a month, but.
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I, it was a relief for period oftime, maybe for about two weeks,
and it was back again.
And I can catch myself even atthe middle of the night when I
had to use the restroom.
I can catch myself.
I gotta let it go.
So I, I would notice it was justso obvious already.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
That's, that, that's how much itwas.
Yeah.
And it, it, it started occurringthree years ago.
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So what.
Was in your life that kind ofcaused the pain in the first
place three years ago?
Well, a constantly thing that Ialways did, it was, you know,
my, my job, I, I would come hometired, so I would just sit in
that sofa, you know, orsometimes I would just hurry up
and eat and I was, it was late.
I would go home, come home abouteight, nine o'clock, super
(05:32):
tired.
I would take a quick shower.
I would eat everything quick.
So I would sit in that sofa fora long time.
So there was.
I was not adding anything elseto my body'cause I was so
exhausted.
My legs hurt.
Everything hurt.
So I didn't wanna do anythingand, and every time something
hurts, like my legs or my back,I would just sit and I wouldn't
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do anything else.
So that was pretty much my life,my life, the way it went.
You know, I wouldn't eat right.
I will eat all the fast food,all the fried food, and.
I kept gaining weight.
I couldn't just, I couldn'tshake it off.
It was just there, I was livingaround my pain.
I was living about the, thetiredness, the issues, but I
wouldn't do anything about itbecause nothing else work that I
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thought might work.
Hmm.
What were, what were some ofthe, I guess, emotions and, and
thoughts about your currentsituation back in the day?
The fact of.
You seeking out fast foodsliving kind of like a very high
stress life, not exercising asmuch as you know, that you
should kind of seem seeminglylike running on mt.
(06:38):
So at that current place, place,let's say, you know, rewind six,
seven months ago, before youstarted working with us, what
was coming to your emotionalstate at that time?
Well I didn't wanna do anything.
I didn't have that.
I don't know that stamina to dosomething or accomplish things,
you know, I was in a state of,oh my God, I'm tired and I gotta
(06:58):
go home and cook.
I was being negative about all,everything that I used to do.
I try not to bring it home, butit was hard.
I was into the point where, youknow what I, why would I wanna
go walk if I'm still gonna feeldown, or I will try to indulge
myself eating late at night justto make me feel good.
And that wasn't helping.
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And, and I noticed that it wasrubbing on the people around me
and I didn't want that, youknow, so, and I, and I could
hear a lot of negative stuffcoming outta my mouth and I
said, you know what?
This is not me.
I gotta shake it off.
I have to shake it off.
So I started looking, I startedlearning more, you know, habits
and, and things that I can dountil I saw your page and all
(07:40):
the questions that I had, theywere right there.
So I says, you know what thisis, I'm gonna take that chance.
And that's.
How I started changing because Iwas already, I was weighing 176
almost pounds.
I'm only, I'm a little person.
I'm five one, you know, so maybefive, you know.
'cause, you know as you getolder, I am 55 years old, right.
(08:02):
And I have a lot in my plate.
I, I, I, I'm the housewife.
I cook, I clean, I come homefrom work.
No matter what time I get homefrom work, I'm cooking.
So I really didn't take any timefor myself.
So I was neglecting the time formyself, giving the time to
everybody else that needed helpexcept for me.
Do you feel like that's just youor do you feel like that's a
(08:22):
common narrative amongst manymoms and No, that happens to a
lot of the moms.
I talk to a lot of women.
I, I work in an environmentwhere I meet a lot of military
women and and, and, and I'm asocial person, so I like to talk
to everybody.
I like to learn from otherpeople.
So I first thought it was justme that I was going crazy or
that was just me being, youknow, lazy and all kinds of
(08:45):
names that I can call upon,which I'm not gonna call no more
'cause I'm not there anymore.
But I noticed it, it is a commonthing and, and, and a lot of
people don't talk about it, andthat's a big problem too.
So it is a common thing.
Do you find that, that's why I,I don't wanna allude to it, but
do you feel like that's a reasonwhy some people are kind of feel
like they're suffering alone orthey feel like this invisible,
(09:07):
you know, pain is quiteinvisible.
Sometimes it's more externalwhen you see it in people's
faces, but do you find that doyou find that, that that's a
reason why so many people sufferin chronic pain, is because they
feel like they're kind oftreading alone in this journey?
I think so, I think we all needsomebody.
I don't care how strong you are,even the bodybuilders that look
(09:27):
hot, they need, they need acoach.
So honestly, I think we needthat, that person without
judging us, without looking atthe negative part, just giving
us that boost or thatconfidence.
That we can do it.
You know, a lot of the people, Ihear that, I talk to them about
it.
They're like, oh no, that's justgetting old.
And not just, and I'm like, no,that's not true.
(09:50):
I've seen, I've seen all thepeople that are like 80 and they
still running, you know, so it'snot true.
But the mentality of what we'veheard through the years kind of
puts us in this place.
Oh no, we just old.
That happens with you'cause youget old.
No.
A lot of things that we canchange that can make our lives
better.
And mobility could be, you know,better for us if we were to just
(10:13):
start listening and looking forhelp.
I was one of those people Iwouldn't ask for help.
Oh, I read.
Oh, I see.
I know it all.
I didn't.
I didn't because even when Istarted with you, I said, this
is not gonna do nothing.
But since I'm investing in thisand it's for me, I'm just gonna
follow for once in my lifetimethe rules.
And that's what I did.
(10:33):
Yeah.
And we, we really commend youfor you putting in the work.
You, you mentioned somethingaround before you started
working with us, you were livingkind of like a more negative
lifestyle.
You were mm-hmm.
Feeling more like a negativeNancy, even though that's not
who you are.
Right.
And my next question is for someof the treatments that you were
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seeking out.
Why do you feel like none of itreally stuck long-term with you?
And why do you feel like none ofit really brought more long-term
results?
I guess it, it didn't stuck tome because I didn't understand
certain things that I needed tounderstand, like consistency.
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Okay.
Like adapting to something new.
Mm-hmm.
Like instead of.
Everything that comes my waythinking that I know it all,
giving it a chance, you know,giving it that, that probability
that yes, this one is gonnahelp, but I used to just go and
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since I didn't see that fastresult, I would just quit it.
And I feel that it took a longtime for us to be where we are
with our bodies with pain.
You know, it's gonna take, it'sgonna take long before we can
see.
The whole bulletproof vest thatwe can become a superhero, you
know?
Mm-hmm.
So it's gonna take time.
(12:00):
So I decided to breathe and slowdown and accept that we need to
focus and we need to bepersistent and dedicate
ourselves to something that wereally want for ourselves that
can make us better mentally,physically, and emotionally.
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Hmm.
I love that.
The two words that you said inthe beginning are words that
I've said on many differentpodcast episodes even on
YouTube.
Very first word is consistency,which I, I preach that really
hard.
Yeah.
To everybody in the programaround.
Nothing really, really matters.
It doesn't matter about, itdoesn't matter about form and
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technique.
It doesn't matter about, youknow, the, the nutritive
protocols that we can provide.
It's not a matter of even goodprogressive models, right around
intensity and volume, which issomething that we've said to you
at the end of the day, none ofthat really matters without you
being brutally consistent.
So.
I find that why we have such asuccessful program and why our
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clients are so successful isbecause we preach that more than
anything.
And yes, I know that, that youcan go on social media and you
can go to many places andeverybody is like, yeah.
It's like, you know, they, they,theyre, everyone's all about,
yeah, you gotta, you gottapractice what you preach.
You gotta be consistent, but,mm-hmm.
I don't think it really.
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Hits home with you, either one,unless you've hit like rock
bottom and now you have to beconsistent.
Mm-hmm.
Or two, unless you've actuallyinvested time, energy, and even
Yeah.
Financial resources in order tomake sure that you actually do
it right.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I mean, so yes, you, you,you came a long way, obviously.
And why do you feel like youweren't as consistent as you
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were compared to like, when youwere like really involved in the
program?
I wasn't as consistent because Iwould just say, okay, they gave
me that, do it, and I would justdo it, and then I'll fall the wa
I will fall off the wagon, startsomething new and, and it
wouldn't work for me.
And the reason was these, thebig part of understanding, first
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of all, understanding why do youreally wanna do it?
Understanding that this is aninvestment.
Having a support.
You need support.
If you don't have any support,somebody that she or you on, you
know, you need that, you needthat.
Those things kind of like, youknow, it makes sense.
You know, we had.
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When I joined, you know, yourgroup, there was a community,
there was a support, but it was,it was different than other,
other things that I've joined.
'cause I joined a kind of weightloss program or drink this or do
this and I always fall off thewagon, but I.
The consistency and rememberingand says, okay, this is gonna
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add to this.
This is gonna bring you, youknow, closer to your goals.
Why is this gonna happen?
It's understanding, it's a bigthing.
Understanding why you're doingit, what they do, what are the
things that are gonna, you know,compliment those things.
It's not just go do you know, ahundred sit up and you're gonna
lose weight.
How are you gonna get there?
You know, a lot of these placesor they tell you, so do this, a
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hundred sits a hundred this.
But what happens to body muscle?
Understanding that.
So understanding how you'regonna get where you wanna get,
but what are the things thatare, it's kind of like an
octopus.
Octopus has the head, right?
But if it doesn't have thetentacles, how is it gonna move?
So the tentacles provide all theinformation that you need for
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this, for that to this, to makethat whole brain move.
Where it is.
So to me it's understandingwhere you going and how you
gonna get there.
Mm.
If you don't know that it's notgonna work.
Yeah.
So two things.
One is having clear direction,mm-hmm.
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Which is, you, you, you, you hada program that you got
evaluated.
You got assessed.
We looked at your movement andthen therefore.
You kind of had clear, veryconcerted direction on, you
know, if I do A, this will yieldB.
Right?
That's right.
And if I do B will yield C.
And seems like maybe some otherstuff that you have tried there
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wasn't always like that.
You know, that that clearpicture of like, if I do A,
there's B because.
You know, if you get manualtherapy, for example, and
nothing wrong with manualtherapy, but if you just kind of
get that in isolation, thenthere's really no B at all.
It's really just, oh, your B iscome back and see me next month.
Mm-hmm.
Or come back and see me nextweek.
So, and the other thing thatyou, you mentioned that it's a
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little, it was a little bit lessconcise on what you said, but
shiny, shiny object syndrome.
I'm not sure if you are familiarwith what that is, but I used to
have that too, especially.
When I was growing my physicaltherapy practice there was a lot
of people out there promisingthat they can help you to grow
your physical therapy practiceor grow your coaching business.
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And so you would try things.
I've had various mentors, someof them good, some of them bad,
and in the same fashion as you,Maria, you know, you've had good
mentors and not so good mentors,right?
But shiny object is like, yeah,when you, when you are searching
for a solution, but you see thenthat.
Maybe the results didn't come asquickly as you wanted it to, so
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then you're kind of looking forthe next best thing, right?
And then you're looking for thenext best thing.
And then none of it reallycreates any consistency at all
because you're really justlooking for what is the next
kind of like program?
Mm-hmm.
Or what's, what's the nextcoaching thing that I can kind
of invest in without reallysticking to, you know, a
long-term plan.
So question here is I reallyhope that you know our program.
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It would hopefully be like thelast thing that you kind of need
long term.
Mm-hmm.
So that you can get stronger onyour own.
But what kind of made this, whatkind of made this feel like this
would be like the last thingthat you ever need?
What kind of tools do you feellike you are that, what kind of
tools do you know right nowwhere you can kind of guarantee
like, oh, I can just kind ofrely on myself now?
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Okay.
How would I say that?
How about you phrase that in adifferent way so I can more
understand what you're trying tosay.
What is the, what are like maybetwo to three tools that you've
learned from us, which makes youfeel more of a guarantee that
you don't have to seek outanother coaching program?
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Like what kind of tools arethose?
So the tools I would say that Ifound here, three of them.
One of them would be the waythey costume, they costume, the,
your workouts, you know,according to your persona,
according to, you know, what'sgoing on with your body.
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A second tool is showing up,showing up for meetings that we
had on the web, you know,communicating, hearing other
people talk about.
What they going through.
'cause a pain that I had today,I may not remember.
I still have it, but I don'tremember.
And somebody might say, and Isay, oh, that's what I have.
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And it kind of gives you an openconsciousness, okay, this is
where it's going and that I canalways relay back and you can
always, you know, kind of moldmy program towards my, my faith.
Another one is thecommunication.
The communication, the communitysupport.
You know, the, the differentoutcomes in different people,
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how you can relate or put'emtogether.
And another thing was, which itwas hard for me to do, oh my
gosh.
It was jotting down what you do.
Mm-hmm.
Reporting everything that youeat, everything that you do so
you can see what you was beforeand what is after.
Hmm.
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And that was the big one thingthat I can say that I would've
wished from the get go Iwould've done, which I'm doing
now, and I am advancing morefaster than what it was when I
was in your program, because Iwas so, I don't know.
I was kind of like, I knoweverything.
I know everything, but I don'tknow everything.
Yeah.
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Even though I've learned so muchfrom everybody and I like to
learn from people, I'm stilllearning.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
The, the fourth one that youmentioned was really critical
around jotting down, or Yeah.
Measuring your results.
And it's not just in your headmeasuring results because that
can Right.
You know, you, you could have apoor day of sleep and not
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remember how many squats you didthe next day, right?
Yeah.
So being able to log downwhether it's like your nutrition
or log down the exact sets,reps, and weight that you do,
allows you to have more clearand concise.
Decision making Absolutely.
For the next workout.
So you are progressing thatspecific exercise consistently.
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Mm-hmm.
And I believe, if I'm notmistaken, you know, one of your
biggest wins that you sharedwith us that we always keep
hitting on, like what you werehitting a certain squat weight
right?
After having a lot of chronicknee pain.
Like what?
You know what, what, what big PRdid you hit?
Two 50.
Oh, you're hitting two 50 now.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I remember that I couldn'tsquat I couldn't even do a baby
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post because I could feel the,it was like my feet were like
super swollen.
I.
And at the same time, there wasreally no mobility.
All I do in my job is stand upstraight, do what I need to do,
look down, do what I need tofinish and move to the next job.
But that's what I do.
And sometimes I spend eighthours in one spot doing the same
thing.
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So I'll come home and sit down,no mobility.
I will sit down.
There goes my, my hips, my legs.
And then once again, all mytables, I'm a little person.
My feet hang.
So that's not good for me'causeI'm not even touching the floor.
But now let me tell you, I cantell you I can even do like a
froggy, I can even some of myjob in a, some part of my job
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criteria, I have to bend down.
Mm-hmm.
And now it's so easy to benddown and come back up.
Before I had to strain myselfand I said, oh my God, I hope
nobody's looking.
Am I really gonna get up?
That now I can do it.
I can do it.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
So going from squatting, noteven your body weight and your
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knees were hurting, and evenjust holding a baby pose was
tough to lifting.
Now a 250 pound squat.
That's right.
Yeah.
85.
Mm-hmm.
So what does that say foranybody that feels like.
Is a factor, right?
Yeah.
I, I, I will say, Hey, you, if Ican do it, you can do it.
And I have a busy, busy, busyschedule, but I decided, hey, if
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I'm walking from my, from oneroom to the end of the other
room, guess what?
I'm gonna do some squatting, I'mgonna do some leg, you know,
some launches.
Right?
That's how you say it.
Yep.
And, and that's, and everymoment I try to use my time.
What I can do, like right now,I'm right here with you.
I'm at a pocket of course, but Ihave my little weights right
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here, so, so I can make surethat when I getting something,
I'll lift, you know?
Yeah.
So you can keep busy, but youcan do it little at a time.
Strike little at a time.
A lot of people wanna startstrong.
They wanna do.
I don't know.
Start soft.
That's what I like about yourprogram.
You started soft and I said, oh,I want it.
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This is really gonna work.
But it did work and I love itbecause it went from, from
lightweight to stronger andstronger.
And I didn't start off rightaway with weights.
It just getting my body ready.
It was like conditioning mybody.
It's like when you, when yousay, okay, I'm gonna wash my
hair.
Let me, we it first.
Okay, now I'm gonna wash it.
Okay, now I'm gonna conditionit.
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So pretty much that's how thewhole process went and it went
smooth and I loved it.
So you feel that, you feel,honestly,'cause you, you came in
with a little bit of workoutexperience.
Do you find that anybody that islooking for a solution that
whether they're intermediate ormore advanced weightlifter, or
even if like, let's say they'rebeginner, that it would be
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appropriate for most levels?
I would say yes.
I would say it would beappropriate for.
I think for other levels really.
Even though I used to, I haveknowledge of working out and
lifting weights, I was, my bodywas very tight in every way, in
every aspect.
I, my mobility was, you know, soand I, and I meet some friends
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that I talk to that theybodybuilders and their mobility
not so good.
Mm-hmm.
So to me, the program is perfectno matter how bad the condition
is because I've, I've seen thecommunity and we have a lot of
people that have gone through alot of changes.
Mm-hmm.
And they're lifting weights now,and, and I'm so proud of them.
So I, to me, I, to me it is forevery level.
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Every level.
Yeah.
Any, not, not to name anybody.
'cause we don't wanna, you know.
Right.
Just, just for, for privacysake, but was there anybody that
you can describe in particularthat you either were, they were
your accountability partner, orit's somebody that you felt like
just as proud as you were ofyourself, that you were just as
proud as them?
Yes.
Oh, I met a couple of them.
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We had a really, well while Iwas, before I graduated the
group, we had a big group and wehad a lot of, a lot of community
members.
I.
That's, I can see they startedoff, nah, negative, but I, I saw
the positivity on them and Ieven show somebody, so one of
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our girls show the muscles howthey getting there, the muscles
going on, you know, so they'reexcited because they're moving
forward.
Even the people that said, ohno, I can't do it, or that said
a lot of negative stuff, they'renot talking negative anymore.
And I see that in all of'em saidto me.
All the girls, all the peoplethat are now, it's like a big
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win to everybody.
'cause I can see everybodyputting it in the community
shot, oh, today I did this.
Oh, today I broke my record.
You know, so to me, everybodydifferent levels, I think
everybody's really positiveabout what they're going through
here.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
We, we, we clearly have a lot ofour clients are, are female, but
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we do have a couple select malesthat are in the program that.
Just as good of results.
I know that there was one inparticular that started around
the same time as you, and youknow, it went from chronic knee
and low back and sciatica painand, you know, lost at least 20
plus pounds.
His A1C levels went down.
Yeah.
His doctors are saying like,he's no longer full-blown
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diabetes.
He's more like pre-diabetic andmm-hmm.
Continues to lower his A1C.
So his diabetes is, well noteven managed, but like, we're
almost completely reversing it.
And I saw changes in you tooaround once he starts to track
your nutrition, get your proteinup.
We started to see pretty bigchanges with like the weight
loss.
Obviously we started to see you,you know, progress the weight
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extremely at, at, at anextremely high level.
And that's why I think thatthat's why, you know, you
deserve the spot, you know, onyou deserve the spotlight, you
know, for, for today.
There was one thing that youwanted to share with the group
or anybody that's listeningright now, and I guess the word
is skepticism, right?
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Or mm-hmm.
And another light to, to, toflip the script.
It, it's trust.
Trust is something that I.
Really value with our clients.
I do value also something calleda therapeutic alliance, which is
when you can trust yourpractitioner you trust that they
have the best intentions, youtrust that they're not just
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doing it for their job that itincrease.
The pos, it increases a positiveoutcome by about 50% according
to research.
Mm-hmm.
Versus, you know, you just cameinto your doctor at a, at a
clinic and you just see thatthey're kind of doing further
job.
You're seeing like a local,you're just getting like your
annual screen you don't thinkmuch of it.
Right.
And usually changes don't happenfor that person.
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So question here is you, youclearly have tried a lot.
You spend over 5K in a threeyear spend prior to joining us.
Mm-hmm.
And then investing.
Almost just as much amount as asthat into a few month program.
Why did you decide to take thatleap?
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You know, we spend all kinds ofmoney besides those mentioned,
but if I can go to McDonald's,spend that money, if I can go
and drink some alcohol, which isno good for you, if I can go and
buy a bunch of clothing that isstill sitting in the closet, I
said, you know what?
Inviting my friends to eat,paying their food.
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I said, let me invest one thing.
And you know what's funny?
It was my secret.
I invested that one thing for meand I said, if I don't do it
this time, it's my fault.
It's my fault because look whereI'm going.
If I don't hurry up and make achange, my mother's diabetic.
My mother died of colon cancer.
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My father's diabetic, prettymuch, my family has chronic
pain.
My sister has all kinds ofproblems, and I says, you know
what?
I better do something.
'cause soon I'm gonna be one ofthem and I don't want to, I
wanna be able to live for me andfor my husband.
So I said, this is where I gottado the decision and I am here.
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So I, I am.
I am thankful.
I am thankful that I met you andthat you are a health aholic
because you are contagious.
So I'm I.
Thank you for that.
For the Truly for my heart.
Yeah.
I appreciate that the healthaholic word is a, it's an
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understatement because Icontinue to, yeah.
I'm, I'm constantly in the gym,constantly lifting my kids up
and down, using them asdumbbells.
They don't even know it, but I'mjust, I'm just utilizing their
small little bodies.
Yeah.
Dumbbells.
Word, word that comes to mindthat I want to hit on probably
in another episode isredistribution, right.
So redistribution in my eye isredistribution of your time.
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Redistribution of your energy.
Yes.
Redistribution of your, yourresources towards things that
truly matter and truly instantneedle forward in your life at
some point.
So let's say for example, youknow, you see this investment
on, let's say it's Airbnb orsome sort of like.
Some sort of thing for sidehustle.
So we're talking about finances.
(30:48):
And so if you see that there isa direct ROI, right?
You're like, okay, if I give, ifI put a thousand dollars into
this thing, it's gonna give me$3,000, which, what person in
the world if you can guaranteethat would, would not take that,
right?
Because clearly I give you$1,Maria, you gimme$3, duh, I'm
gonna do that all day, right?
And so, so that's theredistribution, right?
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Because you could be spendingmoney on, like I said, alcohol.
Clothing that you don't wear gymmemberships that you're not
using.
Yeah, that's right.
Fast food that you're eating ona weekly basis.
'cause your body's stressed outand you know, you just wanna sit
there.
You, you look at your bills andyou're like, oh shoot, I already
spent like 800 to a thousanddollars this month on.
That's right, yeah.
Stuff that is either not intoNeo Forward or it's just
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completely useless and youdecided, hey, I'm going to.
Redistribute some of these, myfinances towards doing a four
figure program like this, right?
And so you can see that afterfour months, it's, it's, it's
radically transformed the waythat you, that you appear to
other people.
It's re it's, your quality oflife is better.
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And so now, the next fourmonths, the next eight months,
the next 12 months, the nextcouple years are now brighter.
They are pain free.
And now you're making betterdecisions around.
That's okay.
I shouldn't eat.
Yeah.
I shouldn't seek out the fastfood or I shouldn't, I shouldn't
wear this type of clothing.
Right.
So the in anyways, theredistribution of energy and
time and resources is somethingI think really people don't
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understand because so manypeople say, I'm time strapped.
Okay, well, if you redistributethat time towards working out
more, maybe you become moreefficient.
You are, have more energy.
So you don't spend, you know,two hours napping, you know,
napping and.
You know what I mean?
So like your, your body and yourenergy levels dra dramatically
improve because you decided toredistribute your energy towards
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something that really matters.
Right.
So I don't know if any of thatkind of hits home Maria, but it
does.
It does.
You get in a nutshell.
Yeah, it does.
I have ever since I started andI, and I graduated, now I sit
down and I focus and I said, youknow, I did this, that.
Not only that, my, my stamina,my wanna do things, my
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possibility of things that I cando have come to a light.
And I had this, a bunch ofpaperwork and, and I had all
kinds of things that I needed todo that I've been saying for
years.
I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna doit.
And he kept sitting in thatcorner.
And I have lost some weight.
I was at 175, maybe 77, and nowI'm at 1 67.
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And, and, and not even trying,but it's just what I've learned.
I didn't know that protein wassuch a big factor.
Ever since I put protein in inmy diet, I'm losing the weight
and I'm like, wait a minute, nowI'm losing the inches.
I used to have a round face.
Now I have a less of a roundface, but it give me motivation.
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You know, and it gives mesomething for the, my whole, my
whole way of thinking changed.
I make it to church now.
When I was, oh no, I gotta, Ican, I'm so tired, I'm not gonna
go.
And I go every Sunday, you know,I have changed a lot of stuff.
I'm walking every morning beforeI was like, yeah, I'm gonna get
up Allina.
And now it's like, wait aminute, brush my teeth, let me
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check the weight, let me getwalking.
So I do the walking in themorning, and then in the
afternoon I go and I do mylittle weight.
Sessions.
So it has changed the way Ithink.
It has changed my life from painto power, you know, from limited
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to no limitations, you know?
So I love it.
I love it.
It's helped a lot.
Mentally, physically, again, youknow, I, I, it's hard for me to
describe.
I can cry and I would cry, andthat's how much I can describe
of it.
But it was the best investment,the best investment I made in my
life.
And I would say to anybody totake that chance, not to be
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afraid.
I would take it if I had to doit all over again.
This time I'll do a step by stepwithout missing one step, adding
down my stuff.
Yeah, it's all everybody.
In hindsight, kind of be perfpicture perfect from day one.
And the reality is that 99% ofpeople, in order to do something
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more dramatic for your health,which is like we talk about,
what we talk about a lot in ourprogram, is you can't just wing
it.
You can't just, that's it, be inand out.
You can't just be again, tinyobject going from one place to
another.
It's like you have to be.
100, you know, 1000% committedto the process.
And if you're not, then you'renot a good fit.
(35:28):
Right.
But you know, I, I obviouslyeverybody that comes into the
program who they, they got intothe program and they wanted to
do the program because theirlifestyle, I.
Was not the most conduciveRight.
For their health and theirquality of life.
Right?
And so you just let you know,Maria if you're guilt tripping
yourself about it, there'snobody in the program at all
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that just starts off absolutelyon fire from day one, even
though like you were pretty damnclose to it, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So don't, don't worry aboutthat.
My last thing for my last thinghere is obviously if, if anybody
wants to.
Apply to work with us, or ifanybody is feeling in the same
way, empowered by Maria youknow, we have a website that you
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can easily fill out anapplication.
Feel free to book a call.
The website, just let you guysknow.
We'll put in a description.
Isgo.flexwithdoctorjay.com/apply.
go.flexwithdoctorjay.com/apply.
Just fill out the intake formbook in for into our calendar,
and hopefully you can besomebody like Maria who you
know, decides willingly thatthey want to redistribute their,
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their energy time resources intosomething that will dramatically
change your life for the betterand their health and the people
around them as well, which isreally important.
So lastly, Maria, if there'sanything.
Specifically that you wanted toleave our viewers with anything
that will empower them, anythingthat will effectively encourage
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them to make the changes.
What would, what would be thosewords either in one, two, or
even three sentences?
Well, I would say invest inyourself and remember that this
is not about losing weight.
This is not about.
Looking cute yesterday ortomorrow, and then the next day
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you hurting again.
This is about investing in yourbody, in your mobility for life.
You know, not just temporary forevery moment and every minute.
A lot of us like to take thehighway quick, make it short,
it's not gonna work.
Trust me, I've done all that.
It doesn't work.
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The pills, this, that, that'stemporary.
You need some.
You need a solution for lifeguarantee for yourself, and this
is the way to go and this is thereal thing.
You're not gonna waste yourtime.
Trust me.
I already did it and if I coulddo it again, I'll do it again.
It's worth it.
I recommend it to everybody overthere.
Don't think twice and ask thequestions.
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He'll answer for you.
He's dedicated.
He loves doing this.
He loves helping people, so gofor it.
I recommend it.
Thank you, Dr.
Jay.
I really appreciate you and yourgroup for helping me so much.
Yeah, I, I do with the bottom tothe end to where you can find my
heart is all for you.
Thank you so much.
(38:21):
Yeah.
And I, I want to thank you forbeing here and for obviously
sharing your, you can clearlysee by the, by the way that you
speak, that after you, after yougraduated, that you were
severely missed by our groupbecause you were such a thank.
A beacon of light to all theother ladies and men that were
in the group.
So you're still having peoplestill have remnants of Maria in
(38:41):
the program and we'd love Yeah.
You know, we'd obviously love towelcome you back in as a guest
and everything too, and you'llstill be a part of our family.
With all that said, like I said,if anybody is interested in.
And working with us, go togo.flexwithdoctorjay.com/apply.
Yes, fill out the application,book a call.
You'll be speaking with me or myteam and we'll see how we can
help you to kind of build out avery similar roadmap that Maria
(39:03):
and many of our clients havetaken.
And even if not willing to takethat leap we still have a number
of free resources, YouTube.
Podcast, Won Body, Won Life.
You can pretty much search up,flexwithdoctorjay on any
different platform.
I know that Maria is stillfollowing from afar.
Yeah, yeah.
Seeing her like, comment, shareuhhuh and I really appreciate
that too.
So with all that said, Maria,thank you so much for your time.
(39:24):
Thank you.
Thank you so much for yourpositivity and I'm sure we'll be
in touch.
Alright, take care.
Bye.
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