Work Is Third is a podcast for people who are ready to rethink how we work, lead, and live. Hosted by Dawn Hunter, JD, MPH, CWP — Workplace Culture Strategist and creator of the RESET Method — this show explores burnout prevention, boundaries, organizational wellbeing, and sustainable ways of working through honest conversations, research-informed insights, and real-world leadership stories. Each episode offers practical tools, reflective moments, and culture-shifting ideas to help individuals and organizations build healthier, more human ways of working — without losing what matters most.
What if the problem isn’t that your life is too full, but that there’s no space for what actually matters?
In this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn Hunter speaks with Natolie Warren, a psychotherapist, wellness expert, and retreat leader, about shifting out of autopilot and reconnecting with yourself through small, intentional practices.
They explore the power of breath, the importance of asking better questions, and how lettin...
What happens when women share their stories and build connections across generations?
In this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn Hunter speaks with the hosts of the Raised by Her Podcast, a mother-daughter duo exploring womanhood, identity, and life through an intergenerational lens.
Together, they discuss the power of storytelling, the importance of honest conversations about women’s health, and how mentorship and community can ...
What if progress didn’t have to look impressive to count?
In this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn Hunter sits down with founder and storyteller Paula Thomas to explore what it means to rebuild after loss, and how small wins can change everything.
After navigating crippling depression and anxiety, and later, an ADHD and autism diagnosis, building a career in tech, and then losing her husband unexpectedly, Paula was forced to re...
What does real healing look like after historical trauma, and how do we carry sovereignty, ceremony, and leadership into modern life?
In this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn sits down with Southern Cheyenne Chris Tall Bear for a deeply grounded conversation about healing, history, and the responsibility of leadership.
Chris Tall Bear is a Southern Cheyenne Chief, Tribal public health advisor, and community leader. In this con...
What if your exhaustion, pain, or restlessness isn’t something to fix, but something to listen to?
In this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn Hunter sits down with Dr. Aissa McGuirl, physical therapist and author of Connect the Body Dots, for a grounded conversation about what our bodies are trying to tell us and why so many of us aren’t listening.
Together, they explore how breath, movement, and recovery are foundational to nerv...
What does it mean to care deeply for others without losing yourself in the process?
Adrienne Tucker, founder of Generation NOW Alaska, joins Work Is Third to talk about chronic illness, caregiving, boundaries, and the truth behind showing up sustainably.
Living with fibromyalgia while leading youth programs, supporting families, and raising two children has taught Adrienne a powerful lesson: you can’t give your best if you’re...
Midlife isn’t a decline — it’s a shift.
In this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn sits down with Certified Midlife Coach Jody Phifer for an honest, grounding conversation about perimenopause, menopause, identity, and what it really means to put yourself first after decades of caregiving, hustling, and holding it all together.
Together, they unpack why perimenopause is just one part of a much bigger midlife transition, how to nav...
When you’ve spent years being who you needed to be, it can be hard to remember who you actually are.
This episode is an invitation to slow down, sit with yourself, and reconnect with what self-love really looks like.
In this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn Hunter talks with Ger Carriere, entrepreneur, artist, and healer, about healing, legacy, identity, and what it means to truly commit to yourself.
This conversation is a r...
Helping is human…but learning how to help without losing yourself is healing.
In this bonus clip, Adam Wilson opens up about why helping others has become both his instinct and his biggest boundary challenge. From Costco moments to vulnerable conversations with his son, Adam shares how presence — not presents — is what children and loved ones truly need. We also talk about breaking generational parenting patterns, modeling emoti...
How are you pausing and reflecting this holiday season?
In this reflective solo episode, Dawn pauses as we head into the holidays to share what’s happening across the Work Is Third movement—from the new Bookshop.org list and the Joyful Rebellion playlist to her bi-weekly newsletters and your opportunity to send in voice notes.
Dawn also revisits her favorite guest quotes, emerging themes across the first season, and her own “...
We’re taught to hustle. We’re never taught to heal. That changes in this episode.
Mindset and wellness coach Adam Wilson joins Work Is Third for a powerful and vulnerable conversation about healing, habits, father and mother wounds, breaking generational patterns, and learning to rest. Adam shares how childhood trauma shaped his early life, what pushed him out of tech and into coaching, how he helps men reconnect with their Inne...
If a 30-minute nap saves your whole day… take the nap.
In this bonus clip, systems strategist and author Averri Simone Liggins shares how she recognizes the early signs of burnout — and the simple practices that help her reset before things spiral. From power naps to prioritizing client work, to delegating and building a support circle, Averri reminds us that systems matter just as much in life as they do in business.
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How do you run a business, care for a parent, and thrive with a chronic health condition?
In this heartfelt and practical conversation, systems strategist and author Averri Simone Liggins shares the structures and routines that help her run a thriving business while also serving as a full-time caregiver and navigating chronic health challenges. We talk about the real-world power of systems as tools that make space for joy, boun...
How do you make time for yourself while still showing up for others?
In this lighthearted and honest bonus clip, Dawn and Lynn swap stories about self-care, boundaries, and the body changes no one warns you about.
From walking the dog and wearing sunscreen to navigating perimenopause and hot flashes in public, Lynn reminds us that taking care of ourselves is a lifelong practice—and humor helps.
This short conversation is a joyful remi...
What does it mean to lead with heart—and stay grounded when everything changes?
In this warm and reflective episode, Dawn reconnects with her former boss and friend, Lynn Gallagher, former Secretary of Health for New Mexico.
Together, they share stories of friendship, grief, leadership, and joy—from mismatched earrings and “Power Squad” calls to lessons learned through loss and career transitions. They explore what it means ...
Do you rest hard?
In this Work Is Third bonus clip, Tyneka Pack, founder of Impackt Fitness, reminds us that joy, rest, and boundaries are just as essential to leadership as drive and discipline.
From laughing about her love of cookies to reflecting on what truly brings her childlike joy, Tyneka offers a refreshing take on what it means to fill your own cup. She shares how overbooking herself reminded her to pause, reset, and...
Is your body strong enough to sustain your ambition?
In this episode, fitness coach and founder of Impackt Fitness, Tyneka Pack, joins Work Is Third to talk about what it really means to sustain your ambition — not just chase it.
From building a body that can carry your vision to embracing mindset shifts and the power of flexibility, Tyneka shares how high-performing women can lead with intention instead of exhaustion. We tal...
Freddy Jackson, founder of the Love...No Ego Foundation, shares how he says yes to love—even when that means saying no to something else. In this short and soulful bonus clip, Freddy talks about protecting his peace, practicing at life, and creating space for what truly matters.
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What does it mean to live without ego and lead with love?
In this episode, Dawn sits down with Freddy Jackson, inspirational speaker and founder of the Love No Ego Foundation, to explore what it truly means to practice at life. From grounding in nature to creating the conditions for peace, Freddy shares how authenticity, curiosity, and courage shape his work mentoring youth and speaking across the country. This conversation will...
Does your calendar spark joy?
In this short, joy-filled clip, Jen Sacks, host of Small Things, Big Life, shares her take on Yes Days, saying no, and why her calendar glows bright yellow for workouts and joy.
Dawn and Jen talk about parenting, boundaries, and the simple rituals that bring balance — like giving yourself permission to say yes to what matters most and no to what drains your energy.
It’s a lighthearted reminder...
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