Candid Conversations on Love, Loss, and Laughter with Anthony Hale and John

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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Guys, welcome to an episode of Working Up the Kings
to Fire, cast with Tosh Nadulaand Anthony Hale, which you guys
have known already he's been ina few episodes at this point
and then also my husband, John,and I swear to God we're not
high, I swear to God.
So before we started this, westarted already, but I forgot to

(00:26):
hit record Because she doesn'thave a computer and net.
If you guys know me, this is thethird time I recorded something
without recording.
I was following that mic andmic girl.
I was following that mic andmic, oh my God, and I don't.
Oh my God Y'all.
This is an episode of us justkind of like growing folks talk.

(00:48):
This is not an episode for kids.
I'm going to put a disclaimeron here because we're going to
be dropping some bombs, some notso friendly kid words.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
My bombs like we're not dropping.
No, like news or anything,we're not dropping nothing, girl
, we just talking shit.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yes, but also I'm giving people a chance that if
they already started, they cango ahead and turn it off.
Let's do drop dimes.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Then you dropped the.
Oh wait, that's not how thatgoes.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's not how that goes either no that's.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I just realized that, Thank you, john.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
We don't do no snitching over here.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
No, no, but that makes sense.
The Commodore's.
We dropped a bomb on me.
That's not the Commodore.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh, my God, that's not the Commodore.
That's not the Commodore.
That's not.
The Commodore that's not the.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Commodore, the Commodore.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
You're like that's not what I was looking for?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
I was just looking for my car.
I was looking for my car.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
I just thought it was my car.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Do you have no right?
Do you have no right?
I used to, for my damn soul.
You didn't need to earn somecredit, I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I got it, and I was literally listening to them
coming on the way over here.
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I got a cookout car.
I ain't got the black car yet,not quite yet.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, this is where we normally do, like when
Anthony is here, you know, andwe're not recording together.
It is us just like watching TV,is us just like cracking jokes
on each other?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Couches drinking whatever I am drinking, I will
tell you that couch is like Icould just sit on it right now.
This is up.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Shout out to.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wayfair Brand brandos hello come to, we need it.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
We need it.
Hey, yo Papa.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
John's was good.
Can you check on it now?
I'm not thinking like you know,shaq just be giving out things.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Like you can't check out a Walmart If I catch Shaq
anywhere, the first thing I'mgonna do is hopefully fall in
front of him, not cuz I want himto pay for something, but China
like look, I need this.
Like.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
My.
So basically we just gonna goahead and tag him in this one
cool, no, we love your shoes welove.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
We love you as a person.
You are amazing person.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
What was the Shaq?

Speaker 1 (02:50):
podcast Stop.
Oh my god, oh, you might getpicked up.
Get your, get your breath.
Oh my god, look, a jointventure girl.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Excuse me host.
Can you please host?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I am trying to but I am just being over talked.
Right now I'm so many loud malevoices that I'm trying to find
my space.
I will, so any who?
Anthony, what's going on withyou?
Boo, what's going on?
What's life looking like?
Uh, if he was, just take a deepinhale, go get him some water,

(03:28):
please Damn.
First of all, you're always myassistant because I am computer
in-app so you're always myassistant.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Please forgive us.
We've been laughing nonstop wehit record.
Well before we hit.
We didn't hit record, sheforgot.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
But See how they do me go.
Oh my god, stop so.
And we did it seriously,because we're like four minutes
in with no real content.
Anthony, back to you.
Life was good friendships, love, aspirations, yes, money,

(04:06):
whatever hot.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Okay, let me be real.
Let me be for real, I'm sorry.
Okay, girl, keep all of this.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I am.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I needed this lad child, so I've been.
Oh, I've been doing good.
Okay, let me, let me fix mywording.
Okay, I realized like when Ichange words, things get better.
So, you know, trying to speakmore positivity into my life, um
, I'm, I'm like, what was thatfor?

Speaker 4 (04:39):
Y'all didn't see, I did.
I did jazz hands.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Ijust did it.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
The words felt like it was supposed to be happening.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
The words fucking you .
I'm gonna slip right out mymouth towards you because I was
like, oh, you trying to, youtrying to Trying to come for me.
Okay, it's cool.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I thought like happiness, like like push mom
yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Oh my lord, y'all are awful.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Why are you on my?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
phone.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Because I can't, I can't, but anyway.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I don't need you to see my sidechicks.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Everything, the lies you tell.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Y'all.
That is a joke.
Don't go.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
That is a whole joke.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's a whole joke, please.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Please don't come for us.
That's a joke.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I've been good girl.
I've been working, finalizingeverything for my new album
release Hallelujah, working onconcepts for music videos, and I
cannot wait.
Shut up, john.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
He's not happy that you.
He's asking me good and lookingfor the wine.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh, okay, can I get a sip, though, because?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
I would go get you a cup while you talk about your
stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Wes.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I love Nicole Byer Can you go get my chicken
nuggets.
Shout out to T-Maw I love her.
Um anyway, yes, I've been good.
I've been having a lot of greatconversation with y'all.
Obviously, yeah, getting mygrowth and understanding on
Going out to brunch and notdrinking, which is that was

(06:04):
crazy.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Tasha was the only one that had a mosa and like,
don't do that.
And I only had one like you cantell, like everybody kind of
wanted to drink, but nobodywanted to drink no actually I am
the drinker of our friendshipgroup.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
I am the drinker.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I get that, but I like don't like you said mosa
and don't was like but you knowshe, she has her schedule.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
It was like you can tell she like but baby, okay,
yeah, let's put some context tothis because y'all like, what
are y'all talking about?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Okay, so this weekend let's just back up.
No, seriously, this is rewind,okay.
So Thursday, um, our frienddunk was in town because she had
to show at the new wrongnessmuseum of art and it was
Excellent, beautiful, like shedid pigments and it was live and
they had a live orchestrabehind her and the music was
just Literally close your eyesand just like take you to a

(06:51):
different place.
It was so beautiful.
And then I loved her dressy'all.
It reminded me of the bodyguard, but also just like Star
galactica.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
She loves a good head piece.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Bitch looks awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I was like this is on as well too.
I need to.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I need to just go ahead and go run five miles a
day, because I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
It is available everywhere merch records.
Hallelujah, y'all did thatanyway, I did that.
Yes, um so absolutely.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
after that we had the one out with our other friend,
bonnie had a great time she tooka thousand figs.
That was a fix, was pretty goodshout out to y'all and then we
went to a bar.
We're not gonna say the name ofit.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
It was okay Now, not the best part, but the
bartender's with cute thebartender's were very cute to me
and he paid me a compliment andI ain't gonna lie almost
dropped down and got my eagle onfor real, for real.
In that place it was packed out.
Hey, I ain't like the bathroom,no, the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I'm scared of me.
I understand that's why Ididn't want to say the name of
it, because the bathroom was not.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
I had to say a prayer , like being up in there,
because I'm just like.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I bring hand sanitizer, hand sanitizer in my
purse and I definitely gave boththem a spray when they came out
.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I ain't never seen two toilets sitting next to each
other like this, and onemissin' a toad.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, and then all the lady who went into the
bathroom was trying to getBonnie to go in the bathroom.
We're like, oh, we can use thebathroom together.
I'm like, no man, we don't dothat here.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
We are not pee buddies man.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Like no, I'm not your teacher right now.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
What so that was a thing.
And then Saturday we end upgoing to brunch.
It was lovely.
What did we go to?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
We didn't even figure out what we were doing.
True food in the CBD.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
We in New Orleans, y'all know that and it was great
.
The customer service waswonderful.
The server was really nice.
We had all our teas.
We had coffee.
Apparently I'm the only one whofelt like drinking in the
morning.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
I don't know who that bartender was that was over
there in the center, but all Iknow is I wanted to do the same
thing.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I wanted to drop apparently Anthony is looking
for a bartender, so y'all shoutout I didn't like.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I hear outsource of a bartender.
I'm just saying the bartender'sover here be fine as a
motherfucker because thebartender the bartender's in my
area ain't worth looking at, soI don't know.
Oh, let me not say that.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Um, if anybody in my area.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Hear this.
I'm so sorry.
This is not about you wink,wink.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
All right, so so yeah , we had a great time and it was
like um who she dropped, jammed, she did and and and you know
it's talking to stuff We've saidstuff name a few times I know
at some point me and her aregonna have like a little talk,
talk, but it's just like Johnwas there.
Yeah, John was there and Johnand uh and John and um.
But it was so nice though,because sometimes you don't

(09:23):
really realize when you need tobe like Watered and like spoke
and loved and valued, but it wasgreat to kind of give that to
each other Could.
We all kind of needed that fromeach other and it was just like
it was a nice little reset andI really liked that and anyway,
as you were saying, John used amess because when you posted
that video talking about y'allare african-americans and Mark.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I was in my break room, holler, and you hear me.
They thought something waswrong with me.
Miss Stevi will reply laughing.
Where why, why, Hello, you needsomething to laugh at.
I'm yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, I'm turning down.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Oh sad.
No, we're not.
We're not even gonna jump intothat.
Maybe, we will, we'll see aboutthat.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
That's gonna be good, I mean, oh yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
We are having a party today, a cookie party.
Yes, it's Christmas.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's.
Christmas If y'all don't alreadyknow, by the time period just
comes out with laura knows whenthis is coming out, but but um,
but yeah, it's Christmas and youknow me, you know we work in
the service industry, we work atdifferent jobs and we we most
likely will be working, or like,in different states.
So we decided to do ourChristmas celebrations with our

(10:39):
friends and family a week early.
So that's what we're doingafter this podcast is wrapping
up.
But, um, yeah, I mean just kindof hanging out with friends and
like talking about thedifferent things that we have,
because, you know, we havefriends who live in different
states and Things happen andit's like you go months without
talking to your friends, withoutseeing your friends and just

(11:00):
like, okay, I have two hours goand you're just like, uh, okay,
and it's just like.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Hey, that's Saturday.
That was, that was Saturday.
It was so much I wanted to getout, but I'm just like Fuck,
it's all right, I'm just glad tobe here, I'm just happy to be
here.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I wanted to ask.
I'm like ma'am Um, you had ahalftime showing.
You know I could have hit thathighway if you just let me know
a week or two in advance.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Oh but that's but that thing about it.
She did not know until threedays before, if I heard her
correct, right, I don't know, Ifeel like.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Darn and stuff needed to get out needed to get out
more stuff than we needed to,because we always had each other
.
Yeah, I mean we could alwayspow wow, like you could drive
that hour and a half over herein chill.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
If I could get him on the bridge we could go to
Bootsy.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I am not going to mississippi.
He don't like mississippi.
Why you not want to come to myhouse?
We?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
don't like mississippi.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
I'm just mississippi nor alabama.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Look.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm pretty sure that got wonderful people there but
when we drove through there forthe hurricane going to Atlanta.
We're an interracial couple.
What part?
I don't know what I do.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
It's parts because they was looking at my car
already, like I'm surprisedsomebody put a noose to the
window.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
John, this whole us of a is racist, it's okay.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I know that, but damn the south ain't like.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
Yeah, the south is wild and I know, but jersey like
.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
It's a.
It's a different type of racesin jersey.
It's chill races down here likethe fuck is chill.
Okay, elaborate, they don'treally like.
Like, let this should be known.
They talk about you behind yourback, okay.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Okay, we had this conversation before.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah we've had this conversation before and I've
said this, and look, I ain'tsaying that.
Oh yeah, I'm so good gun-ho forthe south, but I rather you be
racist to my face and I know itat the same time, I'm up at the
same time when you driving downthat highway and you driving
over a bridge that looked likethe people throw bodies in and a
white man.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Just look over in your car and you could tell he's
angry.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
And you just hear the .

Speaker 1 (12:58):
You just hear like heating, the night sound and
you're down For first of all,john, the only bridge you have
to worry about is the bridge andyour neck of the wood.
It's not ours, our bridge.
Don't go that high.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
No, I'm talking about no, no, no, no.
This is a short creek bridge,like the type of bridge that
they throw people into.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
Like I'm dead ass.
Like that whole drive, likewhen we got to Atlanta I felt a
lot better about my life.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I felt so much better , like the weight, like it felt,
like it felt like highancestors took the weight off my
shoulders, it probably they belooking.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Like they like yo, you better watch over her.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I'm like shit.
I'm laughing because I knowyou're serious.
That's the only reason I'mlaughing.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
You know, what's funny about the whole?

Speaker 4 (13:41):
oh my god the drop to Texas when we went through late
chargers and like we finallygot to.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Texas apparently that first town we drive through is
a sundown town.
We didn't know.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Yeah.
So you know, like I'm notreally like, I don't like planes
.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
But you know that was scary.
We didn't know until after wehad passed it if he was in the
sundown town like that.
Yeah what?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
what time of the day I was there?
No, no, it was nighttimebecause we drove in the night
Remember because we got becausewe got there so late.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Remember it was one time we drove through and I was
so tired we pulled over at thathotel looking like I think the.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I think when we got to Texas it was sunny down, like
there was still like, becausemy time we got to like right
before Austin, like that's whenyou took the break, like Right.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Like yo.
I see why you're drivingthrough the south is crazy to me
yo.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
I guess because I done did it so long, to the
point the way.
I'm just not afraid.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I mean I'm happy for you because you shouldn't be
afraid to like do what you wantto do.
But I mean honestly, that'skind of one of the reasons why
it freaks me out when you don'ttext me when you go.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Okay, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, I try not to, because that's just the the pre
mom in me, but it's just like.
I can't stand you, but it'salso just like I get so afraid,
come, just like you know You're.
You're a nice chocolate blackman and, and, and and.
You're driving through andwe're slipping at night and I
guess and I get scared.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
But here's the thing I know my area, so I know where
to go.
I know where to be.
It not.
This is, this is me.
Y'all Take this with a grain ofsalt.
Anything past Jackson, I don'tgo.
Yeah, that's just, that's justfacts.
Anything past Jackson,mississippi, I don't go.
Now, if it's like the majorcities up north, obviously, yes,
fine, I know I can get there,but it's just like I stay by the

(15:38):
water.
That's just like.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
I think before Katrina that's me.
But before Katrina, like I justtake the grayhound, like back
and forth the jersey all thetime and I never pay attention
to it, because I was like 17.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, you're also on the grayhound.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
I was like grayhound I have my headphones on, I'm
trying to sleep, I'm trying toget attention to the world.
Girl shots, the grayhound.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
They used to get me.
They used to get me together.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
This is before they had TVs and stuff on there.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, like, oh damn they ain't no grayhound on them
when I went on.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, like the crayons got TVs and like usb and
Wi-Fi on that oh they got Wi-Fiusb.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Okay, so the tv Used to be at the very front.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, I don't know I went on one about three years
ago.
This is when you know the wholechannel was coming back home
from Atlanta.
I don't remember that because II'm, maybe I was drunk, I don't
know.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
I definitely had a couple drinks if I got on that
grayhound.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
But when I was going like this is like I have my walk
man and I had like mad pantsand batteries on him, just took
for the anti-skipping shit.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
But now I'm like you, dating yourself.
I mean, this is 2005, right,this is 2004.
They had walk man 2005?
.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah like the CDs?
Oh, I thought you went like theno, this is like the 45, 60s
skip right.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I thought you was going to a hip hop, a hippie
mean.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Hip hop, hippie, what ?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I went to the hat store.
They got myself a hat, but nowI saw it.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
That's the serious conversation.
But no, I like I never paidattention to like that was wild.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
I never paid attention to like what was going
on outside because I have myheadphones on.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
I'm over there, gentlemen like blast and like
ludicrous and shit Going, likeI'm not paying attention and I
don't tell my parents.
It is when we get to like afull blown rest stop and shit
like that right.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
But like when I'm driving with her going to
Atlanta, I'm like yo, like y'all, like when I tell you these old
white men were in our car.
I'm surprised they didn't.
Uncle Ruckus it, I got the, Igot the rope right here, like.
Hey, man Like it was like crazy.

(17:46):
I'm like, oh, y'all really madat this.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
And and it's a sad thing because to be even, I
think about it like you know,obviously I drive it like Shonda
all the time because you knowthat's my sister, but they don't
care when it's like you knowjust the two of us, or whatever.
But you, oh my god, you startmixing colors and things just
get all crazy, like.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Listen, do not let that scare y'all, because, trust
me, they doing a lot of racemixing in my area.
Honey, it ain't nothing, oh, weain't skirt.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
You ain't never skirt , he just don't like it.
Look at that.
I mean what you gonna tell me,what you gonna do To who, john
John?

Speaker 1 (18:23):
you, I mean what the people gonna do.
You playing, you thriving thatarea, no shade, like in my
hometown, you thrive becauseit's by the wall.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
The moment I come out with the damn Black Lives
Matter shirt, they gonna be likeoh shit, no, he wanted him.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Oh my god, I can't stand you.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
He wanted him worse.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
But not everyone is like John.
Everybody on the way, that'sNot like that, you know.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Everyone is like that , but that's significant moment
was just like Like that that'sthe Texas one, that Texas one
Whoo.
Now Texas?
Yeah, I don't know.
I haven't touched it yet.
I tried to.
But South by Southwest saidthough no shade, I love y'all,
but y'all see shade.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I don't think South by Southwest is a thing anymore.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
It is.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I mean I don't want to do it.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I only wanted to do it for the wrong reasons anyway,
so I'm glad they said no likelike the only festival I haven't
paid attention to is can't vlog.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Nor like Like Coachella and like that's South
by Southwest.
I mean appealing to me.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
But I mean like I don't like South by Southwest
only like well, obviously forthe wrong reason, but it also it
piqued my interest because itwas one of the like major
festivals that allowapplications from Independent
artists, right bands and stufflike that, and that was a great
way for me to network.
So I was just like, if I can'tget my love, my life, I can get
the network of my life you know,so when they said no, I said

(19:59):
hey, no, the both, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
So, speaking of just to kind of go back to the
original topic what are some ofthe things that you wanted to
talk about that you didn't get achance to?

Speaker 1 (20:14):
This bitch I mean we talked a lot, but I just feel
like, you know, the more we haveconversations, I feel like a
lot more Stuff that I, you knowWe'll talk about, starts to
unearth, because it'd be like alot of stuff that I like dormant
and suppressed.
So I feel like it'll be like,oh yeah, girl, this is what
happened, you know, back in theday.

(20:34):
Oh, this what I experienced,child, I just told my cousin
about my very, very first lovewho's not with us my mom.
He died.
Yeah right, not to bring itdown, girl, but he was, okay, he
was long distance he lived.
I ain't gonna give it awaybecause you know, I know his
people, but he lived all the wayup north.

(20:57):
And when I say all the way upnorth, m&m.
Um, so yeah, and I was 16, youknow, long distance relationship
.
How do I get there?
Because of chat rooms, girlright.
So that was the thing.
And then you know, dealing withthat and being 16 and trying to
figure out because Child being16 in hormones and being 16 and

(21:21):
trying to deal with life andshit, girl, it's a mess.
So I'm not gonna give his namebecause he never did yeah, he
never, he never walked out?

Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yeah, he never did.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
He never did come out .
He was really going throughsome things and you know, sadly,
you know.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
He transitioned.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
So, and I'm even, by it being what, 10, 11 years now
since he's gone, I've been, youknow, like reminiscing on, okay,
I still have the messages thatwe, you know, used to Message

(21:59):
you other back and forth.
So, and then I really look atit from an adult lens.
I was just like, wow, both ofus was hurting at a time that we
needed each other, and at thistime I finally forgave myself
because I thought I was thereason he decided to check out
when it was just really he wasjust dealing with the life.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
He was just a lot demons.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah.
So I was just like I wish youknow, my 16 year old mind at the
time had the tools to be likeyou know.
Stay on him, stay with him andlet him understand that he's
okay.
Because I broke up with himBecause I feel like it wasn't
going nowhere, you know, and ICan say that's my fault.

(22:46):
I can say that the breaking uppart, because, like by him going
through all that, I'm prettysure he had the stomach that, oh
, I'm about to lose somebody whoI really I've been talking to
every day, so it's like IWouldn't say.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I wouldn't say that it's your fault.
I will say that that's justwhat you could handle at that
moment, especially being thatyoung.
But it kind of reminds me of oneof the you know I have.
Shonda has like her Cars andit's like a different chakras
nose for get which one it is.
But I sometimes I feel myselfpull this card a lot and I'm
gonna screw it up.
So I'm sorry if I don't say itcorrectly, but in the card it

(23:22):
always says Love yourself forwho you are now and forgive
yourself for who you used to be,because you could only handle
what you could at that moment.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Hmm 16 is like young.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Look, I don't know about you touch, but like I was
in them, chat rooms had you know, and this was like 90s, early
2000 stuff.
So, like you know, findingboyfriend, girlfriend type stuff
, that's what we used to do.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
No, my parents are very strict.
I was not in those chat, but nolike yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
But like you find love and then you realize, oh
damn, we young, I got no moneyto be flying back before teacher
.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
You know, that's a mention that when you really
think about it, I mean, it'sprobably more like in
vacillation, you know, to acertain point.
Or it could be like, you know,puppy love, you know.
Oh, it's honestly.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
I'm gonna be honest with you.
When you that young, it's morehorniness.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I mean, yes, I had my feelings, but I went out here
on the bone.
Oh, let me stop lying, I waswanting the bone but I was being
smart.
No, it was more like I actuallyliked him because we talked
every day and he actuallyunderstood me.
He was an artist himself.
He drew pictures for me that Istill have, that I really gotta
find, and it was more like oh,you are interested in the person

(24:44):
and not just because I, youknow, I look away that you like
nothing cuz that's what I wasgoing through.
I was going through that at anearly age, so it was just like,
oh wow, this first person whowas actually interested in me is
Thousand miles away and wecan't do that because we both
too young to do anything.
But we have this technologythat we can just talk to each

(25:06):
other every day, all the time.
Mother, if you listening, yes,that was the reason as to why
your bills was always high.
When it came to my phone billCuz, I was always talking to him
, so she ever listens to this,which she probably will.
I just know that, girl.
That's the reason, it's the why, girl, when you transition me
into a blackberry, you saved alot of money.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
I'm thinking, I just thought about it 16 I was you
were, but yeah.
I gotta say like maybe youngeryou're thinking what you did,
but no, I think it's bothbecause you.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I mean I'm me at 16, you, I think you.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
You were thinking with you, man 14 I'm thinking
strictly, I'm hoping air andshit that age you find out you
in health class like oh shit,those are tennings.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
But I was in South Georgia at the time and health
class was some sort of the shit,cuz the coach was the one who
taught the health class and thatwas some BS to me because, sir.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Let me not give him too much, because One of the
other teachers I used to havewas over this club I used to be
in and that was her son and letme not do too much with that.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
But yeah, I just know that well, no, I mean, because
I mean it's not saying that hedidn't know, it's saying what he
was allowed to teach.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
And then most of the time we were all just sitting in
the class, children justtalking.
We weren't really trying toknow.
I figured out like shit, I knowall of this right here I should
.
Let's be honest, like thisschool health classes wasn't
shit yeah this was like thehealth classes in school were
not shit.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Your parents are supposed to be the one to teach
you about this thing.
Let's be honest, because schoolain't gonna teach you nothing,
but like you can learn this fromkindergarten cop.
This is a pussy, this is a dick.
Look, this is when it.
Boys have penis is girls havethe ginas that type shit.
That's what you learn in thosehealth classes.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
It's like it's so much more than that much over.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
No child left behind.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I don't want to get into my preachy political.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Shit, I'm not gonna take them one semester after
that.
I took it at ninth grade.
I didn't have taken them all.
Like I said, that's an issue,like they also teach you in
those classes are emotions.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
They don't teach you how to handle and process your
hormones.
Hello love, like they don'tteach you any of that shit.
So guess what the fuck you'relearning at a young age.
You're like oh, why do I feellike this?
Why is this happening?
They don't teach you aboutperiods.
Yeah, you know like that, likethose health classes are fucked
up.
So back to what we was talkingabout with you.
You didn't know that.

(27:58):
You know what he was goingthrough, because they don't talk
about it and it still fires ittalked about to this day.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
All right.
And then you know also, likewhatever emotional or like
mental trauma he was goingthrough at the time.
That's a lot for anybody tolike.
Go through Themselves a littleon somebody else and you're like
how I 16, do you process?

Speaker 1 (28:19):
that.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I mean even right now you're like at almost 30.
How did you, are you processingthe fact that he, he did?
Pass away in them.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So, by me, I'm about to turn 30.
So, like this, year has forcedme to Look back instead of
looking over, which is what I'vebeen doing for too long, not
not to say it's not the same asa problem.
Till you know not look back andunderstand what you were then
is supposed to now, I'm justsaying don't stay there too long

(28:50):
.
That's why I fucked up bad.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I'm saying stagnant, right.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I stayed looking back and that's why I feel like
that's what drove my sadnessgoing into through my 20s and
trying to figure that out and inprocess, because I was also
playing catch up, you know,because everybody around me had
relationships.
They were right there and itwas visible and they felt.
Then it felt like they were allExperienced.

(29:14):
It's something I feel like Ididn't have the privilege to
have, which is the why I feelthe way I felt, you know, and it
always triggered me to Go backinto my brain and be like okay,
this woman who came into yourmother's house and told you that
she don't see this Life for youand you don't deserve to have

(29:35):
what everybody else have, whichis somebody to love.
It's still ringing in your head, that's.
And then it made me.
It forced me to realize oh,that's why you fighting so hard
to want somebody like that.
It's because somebody told youyou.
She's going through her ownlittle things and I feel like.

(29:59):
I feel like karma got her and Ilove my mama because she did try
, you know, to diffuse thatsituation.
At the time when I was goingthrough that, I was looking for
her to be like okay, this myhouse girl, you doing a lot, and
this my son I'm gonna need youto back that up, mm-hmm.
But I'm also a gay black boy,so I already know what comes

(30:20):
with the territory when it comesto family and what they feel
and what they do and how theythink.
Like that's just, that's why meand my twin is nothing don't
really surprise me.
Like it does like oh, peopledon't really flock to me like
that, because I know that I'mgay, being black and do rap
music.
Oh, I know this is.
This ain't nothing new to me,like that's why I'm still doing

(30:41):
this shit, cuz they don'tsurprise me that people think
that way.
They do so it was this year wasa lot of retrospective that I
had to like Sit down and getthrough, and I think that was
the most hardest shit I ever hadto do, because I had to go back
and look at my pastrelationships and wonder why

(31:01):
they went sour, even though Iknow why.
But going looking into an adultlens because I realized when
you look at shit while you werechild and look at shit when
you're an adult, there's sometwo completely different things
or has different perspectivesright and Knowing what I know,
then, as opposed to now Child, Ishould have just stayed in my

(31:24):
house, child and just Because.
I was already in the houseanyway, working on videos and
shit, like doing you know musicand things like that.
I was.
I was already a homebody, I wasin the house, but it was like I
just wish I had a little morebravery as A little, a lot more
brave me.
Let me say that I was alreadybrave being in South Georgia,

(31:45):
but a lot is in terms of likey'all can't tell me shit about
me, but I always take everythingthat people said and kept it
with the end and just movequietly and I shouldn't do that.
So Yay, I'd be 30.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
No, that's real, and I'm just.
I'm processing everything.
You're saying, yeah, so that'swhy I'm quiet.
It's not because I don't hearyou, I'm just oh, no, no, no, I
understand, but it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's why I say, the more I talk to you and John,
honestly, the more I talk toy'all, the more it's just like
y'all low-key, high-key, peelback Little by little everything
that I just I've been sittingwith for years, that I've been
talking about Again, only toldlike two people which was one of
my co-workers because we werejust talking and they just
slipped out, yeah, and my littlecousin who I talked everything.

(32:35):
Yeah yeah, even my best frienddon't even know about you know
him.
She knows about the actualphysical man that I've been with
.
She never known about himspecifically, so it was just
like I just kept him as like alittle piece of your heart.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
I'm okay to do.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, I got somebody like she didn't Do it that way,
but she died of breast cancer.
To this day I still sometimesI'll think about it like damn,
like that, like cuz she, she.
She was cured and it went intoremission and Immediately and it

(33:15):
was just like damn, that wasreally young for you, right I?
Know, I've known her since Iwas like that.
She was one of the first twopeople I met when I first moved
to New Orleans.
But I was still beyond her, cuzI mean but no it she passed,
like you, 2000, like it was inthe teens, like 2000 teens and

(33:37):
stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Oh, I thought you mean.
Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
It was like this.
This had to be.
I Like I was still on Northrampart, I don't know what.
If you could take that for them.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I mean the 2100 block .
Yeah so this is like to lookwhat that's still really that's
like 10, 11, because about 12.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
I think that moves, yeah, so like that was then.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
That's like around time when you met me.
No this because you met me in2010.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, that was the last time I saw her and then I
think 2015, 16 is when shepassed.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Like that.
But the last time I saw her wason North rampart.
It's just like damn man, youknow even just being friends,
like it was crazy to find outlike you could die that young,
just breast cancer like and ofcourse.
Of course you know you can, butwhen it actually happens to
somebody, you give a fuck aboutthis is like Wow, this is real,

(34:43):
you know and this would be thesecond person in my in my life
to have cancer, like mygrandfather had cancer and
Eventually off themselves weshould.
so it's kind of like LikeProcessing all this type of shit
is like hard, and then you haveto go through it.
Yes, as you get older.

(35:05):
You have to keep processing itbecause it's going eventually
pop back in your head so youcould be randomly in the shower
this the person's name poppingyour head You're like damn,
Every his birthday happens and Ibe wanting to like Going his
Facebook and just write you know, happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I miss you, but I know that's gonna set off.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
All right, so.
So how do you celebrate hisbirthday?
I mean, that's something thatyou can do.
I think you should.
It might it might help you like.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
He's, but he's better as a memory for me.
The reason why I say that isbecause I know for a fact if I
do something, that's gonna likeHonor him, because I do again.
I still have the messages and Ido read them from time to time.
I still have the picture thathe drew for me of my name and he

(35:55):
did graffiti work and it was sobeautiful and it was just like.
But every year I see it's hisbirthday, comes up and I always
think like I really hope thatwherever you are in the universe
, you are okay now like.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
I Feel like that's better than celebrating it
because, honestly, if his peopledidn't know about his lifestyle
, I'm not saying do it publicly.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
I'm not saying that, oh, I know.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I know, but it's you know, like I just hard I say
what you're doing is alright, inmy opinion, just because, like
that's what you do.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Right, I mean, anyway , you want to do it.
I guess in my head I wasthinking like if you just want
to like Write something yourselfand then put it away, I can
just have to be anything public,it can be private, just for you
.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
But whatever works for you, I mean you have to
figure out a way to To I guessI'm in here but the same time
like move forward so you're notjust like stuck in that
heartbreak, in that heart thathurt because I be catching
myself all the time like goingon his page and just Seeing all
his family members, just like,well, we miss you, we love you,

(37:00):
and I'm just like I really wantto say that too and I can't Like
even his, his family members.
I actually that's how I foundout was because I messaged one
of the family members.
I was like, hey, I'm a friendof his, because that's the smart
thing to do, yeah, yeah, andshe told me and I was just like,
wow, like, and I really had tosit with that by myself Because

(37:23):
my mother didn't know I was in arelationship.
I really wasn't telling hernothing.
Anyway, she still don't know tothis day about that.
So I had to go through thatalone and then happen to go to
school and then, on top of doingdealing with that, dealing with
the bully, and that came withthat as well.
So it was just like I wasreally sad Throughout my whole
high school.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
Yeah, and up going on .

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yes and trying to act like I'm not and Everybody
don't see that, because I'mjoking with everybody and making
everybody laugh, just so I canhave something that could keep
me grounded.
That's why I think my bestfriend Hello, andriana, I love
you so much, because I know yoube listening, she supports girl,

(38:04):
she loves it Um, yeah, withouther I wouldn't be sitting here
with you.
I mean, you always need asupport system.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I Tell all my friends the same thing.
Or I tell not all my friends,but like I tell people the same
thing all the time.
It's better to have fullquarters than a hundred pennies.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
It's less weight, that's definitely, he does
definitely your friend, yourphrase, but I will say no it is,
but it's a good one.
Wow, because I never heard thatbut, it's true, though, cuz you
don't need to have a wholebunch of extra people holding
holding on to you, who don'tbring you no type of value.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
You know, let me stop my grandmother.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Was a whole different story.
Got to do some type of like.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Reports and stuff and something telling you, sir
you're like I got NativeAmerican in me is over you from.
I'll do for the.
Lose your damn mind, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
That's all my time figure that out.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Cream baby, I'm just saying, but not like but no like
.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Now like you did a core group of friends and I
think that's why, like you know,I think I think about this a
lot, because I be going throughmy emotions like, damn, I miss
all the people from high schooland I miss people from this era
and this era.
And Then you check on them andthey doing some wild stupid shit

(39:52):
on social media.
No, I mean, they talk about theworld flat.
Oh, they, every day is a Biblequote for them a like it's kind
of like damn.
So then you look at your you.
That makes you just appreciatethe people you have in your life
more than you know.
You click with like, yeah, Imean, I don't, look, there's

(40:15):
certain people that don't evenknow that I'm over here in the
Westman, because I don't want tobother the time, because I
don't want you to look.
Look, you only know my life, oh, but I keep them at a arm's
distance.
So I could be like you know,what could you do, right, you
know?
I know I shouldn't do that Imean.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
That's the difference between like friends,
associates, people from thisseason in life.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
You know, not everybody know everything if you
get, if you get an invite to myhouse, you're a real friend.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
You're a real friend, cuz otherwise you're not coming
over here, right?

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Like you, don't even go.
I live in a box, as far as youknow you did.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
That's why I appreciate when you want to be
the Company, go house, like Iwas just like.
Oh shit, that's up to you.
This is your safe haven, honey.
I'm just a guest Boy, bringyour ass up here, okay.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Like if you are invited to our house, you are in
our core group.
I mean like so, and I know I amcuz I be falling asleep every
time I get in the, but no, it'salways good to have that one
person that you could alwaysjust like rely on and like that
your friend, like that's whyit's just like think like she's
dope for keeping you around likethat.

(41:28):
Because, like, if I look, Ihave a lot of mental issues.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Natasha and my sister and my sister Ashley.
I'm probably would have did italready, you know, but thanks to
them.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I'm glad you're here, john.
I'm glad you're here.
I'm not, but use a mess whileyou can't.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Just taking it, move on.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
I appreciate y'all, but damn life is hard right.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
I get that I like that but I'm glad you here
because I'm I don't necessarilyhave a friend like you, yeah,
and I tell him that all the time.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
at the end of the day I was just like it's very
selfish of me To you know, butI'm just like at this point I
mean, we know each other for 13years I'm like at this point I'm
just like I don't know my lifewithout you.
I don't.
So it's just like now you kindof have to stay around you, so
we bit more.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
This is hard.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
So look here I'm telling you right now you better
not do nothing crazy.
Okay, cuz the first thing, thefirst time I do, I'm gonna pop
over here where he at he didn'tget your ass together, like,
like.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Like people don't understand, like the shit that
just he had found.
Like you can be having the bestday, but you can be playing 2k.
I can be playing 2k, having thegreatest game with the bulls, I
believe, dj and having thegreatest mix.
I could be riding my bike andlanding all my tricks and for
some reason, my brains chemistryjust goes a yo, you depressed
now, and well, guess, I'mdepressed.

(42:58):
And then your, everythingstarts running and it just the
depression.
Then, all of a sudden, likelife really sucks like this,
sucks, that sucks can't do this,you can't like.
I'm going through it as we speakbut I'm hiding it.
Well Now, I mean, I'm thinkingabout the fact that, like you
know, the people that we want tocome to this whole Christmas
thing can't come because theygotta work, they got other

(43:20):
obligations and shit like that.
It's just like damn.
That's what we became adultsfor, yeah, yeah, to miss out on
our friendship.
That sucks, that really fuckingsucks.
And it starts weighing down onme and then snowball effect I
think about everything else inthe world.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
So it's like and then that says the driving factor, I
play, ok, this would happenhere, and boom, and it's just a
never ending factor of shit.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
And that's why, when people do it I was going to say
when people commit suicide, Iwas going to say underlined.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Look, that's the term you have to use.
I'm alive, sorry.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Sorry, I didn't know that.
I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
No, I understand, but you know when people choose to
do it.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
I'm kind of like I understand, because as part of
me it's kind of like man, that'ssad.
But then it's kind of likejealousy because it's like, damn
, you did it and I know that'sfucked up to me.
Think about it.
It's just like you are at easenow, you are at peace.
I get it, your family fucked up, but damn, you are at peace
with life now.
Or you're at peace with theuniverse and shit, because it's

(44:21):
just like the mind, justEverybody's mind is different.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Everybody's mind runs different.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
But when people like Robin Williams do it, it's just
like what the fuck is going onwith him, but then you never
know.
No matter what kind ofhappiness, no matter how many
millions of dollars you got, nomatter what you have under your
belt and everything like that atthe end of the day this shit
hurts.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
This shit starts hurting you.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Your body, this shit starts hurting you.
So to have a friend like yourfriend, andrew.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Eladriana.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Eladriana, yeah, to stop you from thinking these
thoughts and getting you rightas dope, because, like I said,
if it wasn't for my sister,ashley and Tasha, there's been
times like that would have beenit.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
And you got to understand we have our go-round.
When he gets into it honestly,when he actually shows me like
how he's really feeling, becausehe does a great job of masking
his feelings- that's the word OK.
A great job at it yes.
So that definitely tells me helets me in.
It's just like this.
Ok, so how do I provide thecomfort you need in this moment

(45:39):
but at the same time trying tounderstand what you're coming
from, without just being like,ok, well, here you go, do what
you got to do, because that'snot what you want to do either,
right, but I think the thingwith me, with Childers, is every
time I see y'all, every time Iwant to go to hug y'all.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
I don't ever want to let y'all go.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
I just want to just like hold on to y'all and just
like you a mess.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
No, it's like a reassurance to me that I know
that I got y'all.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
You got people.
Yeah, y'all love.
You got care.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
And then it's just like I know, y'all know that
y'all got me as well.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
So it's just like yeah, I mean, you know, our door
is always open.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Yeah, and that's something I wish I could feel
like because.
I want to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Sometimes it's just not that easy.
Sometimes it's just like lifejust sucks.
So I tell people constantlyappreciate the fact that you
could do all the things youcould do.
Appreciate the fact that youcould go outside and not freak
out.
Y'all didn't notice.
I told her about the wholething, but on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Oh, you told me to.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Oh, all right, Nobody noticed that I was freaking the
fuck out the whole time, like Iliterally were walking three
minutes Not even that far.
I'm like, am I going to passout?
That's what my brain is.
It's like I haven't beenoutside in so long.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
That's like new territory.
I have to rediscover outsideagain.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
So I'm thinking I'm going to pass out just for
walking three minutes.
So I always tell peopleappreciate the fact that you
could do these things in life.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Appreciate the simple things yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
The simple things like going out.

Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
You know, appreciate the fact that you could go get a
job, and I'm not saying ohappreciate your job, man fuck
your job.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah fuck the job.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
But appreciate the fact that you can go work.
I can't, because of my mentaldisabilities, like I freak the
fuck out, we tried.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
I'm with the fans.
It was quit the same day and Ilove fans.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
The place wasn't the problem, it was just the sensory
issues.
So I always tell people keep acore group of friends on when to
appreciate what you have,because that's all you really
need.
That core group and appreciateeverything that you have.
You know, appreciate the factthat you have people around you
that are like stopping you fromdoing dumb shit or keeping you

(48:00):
stable-ish.
You know.
No, not happy, I get it butstable.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
But keep you on, yeah , yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
And appreciate the fact that you can go out with
said friends and you can go outand do these things and even
make new friends that can helpyou with that.
Appreciate these things becausesome people can't do it shit.
So shout out to your friendthat stopped you from doing shit
and shout out to us for beingwarm and cuddly.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
That's why you're the backdrop of my album.
That's why you're all thebackbone, like Ally is the lit,
the excitement that I feel whenI'm with y'all.
Stuff is the spiritual sidethat I feel when I just feel at
peace when I'm with y'all.
You give me a sense of like,let's unpack this and you have

(48:47):
somebody to talk to because I amhere.
You give me that my littlecousin.
She gives me the truth in allof that.
And then Bonnie gives me thegrowth and blooming within
myself.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
See, I was going to say Bonnie gives you the food.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
That too, yeah, but she mentioned blooming and
flowers and I'm like, yes, girl,I'm with that.
I didn't know you was going togo there.
I thought it was going to becooking up something.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Was she talking about flowers, or was?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
she talking about blooming onions.
Oh my god, what you are hungry,sir.
See you, you're hungry my girl.
I guess we were getting tooserious.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
And then Andrea.
She's the one that kind of lowkey inspired.
She gives you that sexy, yes,and child, ever since I've been
going to her Afro-Axoticaburlesque shows and things.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
I want to go, so bad but I always work.
I want to go because she, firstof all.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
She looks amazing, she's wonderful and she's so
sweet.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
And I just want to be in it.
Some black women in burlesquejust do it.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Then black women in Sarpulac.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Beautiful?
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Like Betty Boop comes to mind, but it's.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
But I still black.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Yeah, then Betty.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Boop was black, that's what.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
I'm saying no, no, that's what I'm saying, yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
I'm coming.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
I could have sworn.
A black lady created burlesque,but I definitely could be wrong
.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
I don't know, I low key thought Josephine Baker was
the pioneer Low chain.
I thought she was.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
She is definitely what you know like.
Why don't we put it on the map?
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
They go maybe dance and do OK, ok, that's why, I
think, about Josephine Bakerwhen I think about burlesque.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Because me people equated to stripping.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
I'm like no, I feel like this is a completely
different thing.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
This is a sensual experience.
This is, I feel like look.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Stripping could be sensual in its own way, true,
but I think there's more danceand technicality in the
burlesque.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Burlesque is more about the art of dancing.
Ok, stripping is about the artof sex and selling said sex Got
you.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
And that's my personal feelings.
I mean, I think that's correctIf I had a left addiction.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
But at the same time I feel like you absolutely have
to category stripping now,because there's different layers
of fucking stripping now, yeah,you have the actual talented
pole dancers who do all thetricks and shit.
It's crazy, crazy, like theinsane shit.
Now.
I mean, don't even have to takeoff their clothes and they're
like boy, here's $1,000 insingles and then you just have

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the chicks just want to poptheir pussy.
You know, I feel like you haveto categorize.
I guess I mean there already ispole dancing versus stripping,
but pole dancing is a part ofstripping Boy exotic dancer I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I don't like.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I've never liked to tell an exotic dancer.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
It just sounds weird.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
It sounds weird.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
It sounds sus, I don't know, but I feel like
we've got to categorizestripping now, like we've got to
make sub genres of it.
Sub genres.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
You realize a lot of things aren't a monolith, so you
literally can get multiplethings of one area.
Like it's just like it's child,but burlesque is completed, I
will say, burlesque is about theart of dancing.
And the show.
They craft every show toperfection to me, and she always
brings in a layer ofspirituality to it that is just
like, oh, this is I like this.

(52:11):
And then she invites Every timeI'm in there.
She always put me on the stage.
I'm telling her stop doing that, but I love it because it makes
me feel like, ok, people likeme the way I look and how I do,
which is probably why I shoulddo it, so you can kind of have
that feeling of like, what I amand who I am is still sexy and
beautiful.
Right and whatever I give you.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
That Right.
You better like what I fuckinggot.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Girl.
Somebody called me sexy thatnight and he would play with me.
Girl, I ain't even know.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
I told you be missing the whole over your fucking
head.
I told you that.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
She told me that shit too though.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
You do, and I told you both why.
It's because y'all haveself-doubt about yourselves and
your own handsomeness in how youfeel about yourself.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
I think mine is just.
I don't mean all this shit.
Like real talk, like she's likethe day at the hotel.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
She was mad at this.
Here he go, here he go, she wasmad.
She was so mad at this chickthat came to the desk and like I
see it now, but like who comedownstairs to the hotel lobby to
go ask the front desk agent oh,where can I go to this place?
Where can I get something toeat?

(53:19):
In her bed clothes, y'all Inher bed clothes.
Really bitch.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Really, that's a hotel.
In her bed clothes, the problemwas that your mama didn't teach
you nothing?
She had, she had, she had, shehad, she had pussy shorts on.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Yeah, she had.
She had the booty shorts on.
No, no, she's pussy shorts yourmama didn't tell you to put
some clothes on.
You go downstairs Triflingbitch, but the point of time.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
The point of time, babe, is like I just don't be
seeing shit either, though I'mwith you there.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
My thing is, I guess, because of my experiences, I'm
just like you, literally have tobe direct with me.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Because if you not, I'm not picking the bait, no
more.
Because, to me.
I ran into a lot of situationswhere people will flirt with me
and I get the courage to say OK.
So look, we've been doing thisexchange.
Can we go on a date?
Let me take you out, let's getto know each other.
Oh, I don't really swing likethat.
Then why the fuck are you doingthis?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Because people are bi-curious.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
They want to try to do it, they want to know.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Like it's one of them things.
It's probably like I'mheterosexual.
I just want to know if you findme attractive.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
But, no, you have to be really direct with me.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Oh, I know.
Have I told you how I XTML.
Did I tell you that story?

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Oh OK.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
So this is how I tell you how things go over his head
, right?
So this is way back in the daysof early days of Facebook, and
we were at the beach first, man,and I remember you posted
something and I sent you myphone number on the comment and
you actually deleted it and thentexted me later.
I mean, why would you put yournumber just on the internet?

(54:55):
And I'm like I don't care,whatever I know I didn't care,
but we were still friends, wewere just chilling and I
remember I had made I was withyou in the DJ booth and you know
you was mixing and I was like,oh, this is so cool.
And I was like I made a post andI was like, oh, man, now I want
to be a DJ.
It is so awesome.
And he was like, oh, I bet youdo, I ain't got a lot.

(55:15):
I thought he was flirting and Iwas like, oh, he like me.
All right, cool, right, he wasnot flirting, y'all.
He was not flirting.
So, ew, like a week or twolater I finally had the courage
to XTML and I said somethinglike first of all, I was so
nervous.
So I was like after this songI'm gonna.
XTML Song.
Play I didn't XTML.

(55:36):
And then I'm gonna do the nextsong and play I'm gonna XTML,
didn't XTML.
So I waited until like the lastminute and I'm about to go, and
then finally like, hey, look, Ilike you, I think you're cool.
I'm like before I feel like Iasked you.
If I'm just gonna ask youanyway, like, do you like me?
Because I like you now, becauseyou know you better, I got you.
And he's like oh yeah, yeah,you're cool, I like you.
And I was like, yay, monthslater I found out.

(55:57):
I was like I brought up thatconversation, that comment, that
Facebook post and turns out hewas like oh no, I was just calm
man, I wasn't flirting.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
I was like he was like no, I wasn't flirting.
All right, I bet you won'tlearn how to DJ shit.
It's easy money to fuck.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Right Now, I thought he was flirting.
He was not flirting.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
I was like yeah, oh my god, Look man you gotta be
real, like old ladies, that likecompliment me, Like that's the
shit I be looking for, Like ohbaby, you are gorgeous.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
I'm a lover playing your ear.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
I'm like, thank you, she won't fuck.
But, like you know, some shitcome up to the front desk asking
me questions.
I'm just like, yeah, I'm notgetting you out of bad, I'm
going to go over there, I guess.
Right, fuck, yeah, no, yourtitties don't look wrong.
What are you talking about?
Let's go.
What's going on here?
I?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
got a look my titties , don't look wrong.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
No, that's all right, can't?

Speaker 1 (56:51):
help it.
I don't know.
Like, there was this guy that Imet at one of the shows and he
saw me on stage and he called me, you know, sexy.
But you know, I thought it waswonderful he was shorting to me.
I kept drunk on.
Bonnie, I'm going to pick himup.
Oh, that's what she was talkingabout.
Yes, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
She was like, he was so little.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
She was like oh, I'm saying child, shit, nothing.
I pick him up and it ain'tnothing.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
And then I was just like but that's me, or he could
be perfect height, that's it.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
But that's just me talking to y'all.
So that's what I was thinking.
But when he was talking to me,it was just like you know, I was
more just focused on the factthat, oh, this person is talking
to me, let me respond, andwhenever I'm talking, I just
speak in truth.
So like, yeah, you look amazing, I love your fit.
You have a nice haircut, youare super sweet.
Thank you, I really appreciateit.
And then he said something thatshould have tipped me off, that

(57:46):
he wanted my number.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
What did he say?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Like because he know we should hang on, I'm like, oh
my god, we should.
And then I turned right aroundand went ha, and started talking
to Steph and Bonnie.
He walked out and he was likewhat the fuck is wrong with you
Like?
I'm like what?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
He was flabbergasted.
You want to get the number?

Speaker 1 (58:07):
I said, girl, to tell you the truth, I'm not even
here, girl, Like I'm like hey.
So I told Steph and my girlthat she was a friend of her and
give him my number for me.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Did she ever get it?
Yes, ok, did you call?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
him.
Yes, well, it happened, wetalked.
Yeah, we talked.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Are we going out?

Speaker 1 (58:24):
No, why not?
Because I wouldn't say we losttouch, but he was in the process
of moving to another cityaround the way from here, down
the way from here, but it waslike but we never did connect,
so I wasn't tripping, justmissed communications.
Yeah, because he said we wantedto do lunch together.

(58:45):
So I was like, yeah, I told himlook, anytime you want to, I'm
up for it.
I can make that trip, then comeback.
This ain't nothing new to me,Y'all know me.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
This is a weekly thing.
At this point I be dedicated.
You've been here three timesthis week and I'm tired as a
mother.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Fuck, I was at work, girl.
I was like oh child, don't talkto me, I don't like, I can't
deal.
And as soon as I got off, I washere straight to y'all and Like
yo, like you've been here, youhave Like almost as here.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I'm glad you got new tires.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Hello, no, it ain't.
Oh, it's driving Shoot and I'mglad you said that I haven't got
my oil changed too.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Oh yeah, that's true Got my oil changed.
She got her change today.
Shutting.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Like yeah, today was an incredible day for her.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
I'm staying home and doing nothing.
I'm going to go do that onFriday.
That's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Well, you have any questions for us, Because I mean
I'd be shooting the shit, butyou got any questions for us, I
would shoot.
And the floor is open.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
I mean, look man, we got a party in about 30 minutes
or so 20 minutes.
I still got to get dressed.
You think I'm partying likethis.
It's your house, you good, dowhat you want.
No, I want to get fly the fuck.
I'm not trying to look likey'all.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Fuck you too, Bitch.
I'm always cute, You're myepisode.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
No, I'm not cute.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
Oh look, this is Steve, Steve, you have to be
right here, we'll wrap it up.
Let's just see.
Let's see what he got to say tobe right here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Well, I can ask you this the conversation we had,
coming from the Renaissance, wewent and started the Sons Sure,
I do.
That was amazing.
The conversation that we was onthe highway and I was telling
you what I noticed about John, Idon't remember.
Go ahead, OK so, John.
So I was in the car talkingwith her about you because I

(01:00:37):
noticed that when y'all werebantering with each other
earlier that day, you had asmile on your face when you was
joking with her and I'm tellingher I'm like girl, he loves that
shit.
Have you seen the smile?
Every time he looks at you andhe's just like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Yeah.
That's about the one thing Iguess you never noticed that I
like, like, I lovingly hate you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
What kind of shit is that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Look at those things she gets on her.
I like she'll buy random shitand then go build this and it's
just like motherfucker, like thenewspapers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
But don't you build it, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, everything in this room he built.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
I'm telling her, I'm talking about her, yeah, but no,
am I not supposed to smile?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
No, that's not it.
I was telling her like Inoticed that how y'all, like
y'all dynamic is.
I noticed how, whenever youreact to her, it's always like a
loving smile.
Whenever you talk to her, Eventhough y'all could be
bullshitting and joking around,it's like a relaxed smile on
your face.
That's what friends do, and Ithought that was like the most
beautiful thing that I ever saw.
Like I was just like, oh my god, this man truly loves her.

(01:01:47):
That's what friends do and Iasked her like, did you notice
that, like I?

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
guess I really didn't until he brought it up.
That's the one thing she'snever noticed, I guess, because
usually she'll notice everythingabout my ass, but I guess that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
No, like that's how in a relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
You're supposed to be friends, you're supposed to
have fun, like.
I feel like a lot of people getin a relationship nowadays and
they get in it because the pussywas good or the sex was good,
or they made them feel this onething this one time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Right, no, like me and Tosh, like that's not
sustainable, though it's not.
It's why we don't like eachother, and this is why like with
me and her.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
It's kind of like while like, yeah, she gets on my
nerves sometimes and shit, mostof the time we good, we're
friends.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Like at the end of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
we don't have to like be all up under each other.
We can be on two, as in a couch, and still love each other and
still conversate like oldfriends, and that's what you're
supposed to do, you're supposedto have your lover is supposed
to be your friend.
At the end of the day, if y'allnot friends, y'all just fuck
buddies.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Yeah to me, if you know that, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
No, no, let's go, you just a, you just an in-house
one-night stand at that point.
Oh god we both just like atthat point, like if y'all just
fucking, like if that's what therelationship is about, the sex
and that one emotionalattachment y'all had years ago.
Y'all you just an in-house fuckbuddy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
And I think that's why a lot of times that you know
I I ask these questions becauseI, like I'm always going to ask
questions to people who areactively paying attention to the
relationships, actually doingthe work, actually having
conversations, and having toughconversations.
I feel like a person to love meis to have a tough conversation

(01:03:32):
with me and leave it feelingfulfilled.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Yeah, and we have tough conversations all the time
.
Shit, we have one recently,yeah it really did, and then,
just like in some times in thoseconversations, you realize
sometimes like you can be angryat somebody else or you can be
hurt by somebody else's actions,but really it could be your own
internalized issues that youneed to deal with and work
though.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Right, you have to realize saying sorry's okay.
Yeah, yeah, and you also haveto realize sometimes sorry isn't
enough, but you know it dependson what you did.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Which is funny because I actually wrote about
that in one of my songs.
It's called Black Rose.
This is coming on the album.
I see Keeping a flood to hell.
I wrote.
You thought you had me fooled.
You thought that why am Iblanking on my own lyrics?
This is fucked up, he ain'twriting his own lyrics.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
That's bullshit.
Why do we know that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Jay-Z, don't write down his lyrics.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
I'm sorry, he got you you thought you had me fooled.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
You thought that you was clever, but saying that you
sorry doesn't make it better.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeah, that's actually really good, that's actually
good, because I think people saysorry, but do you really?

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
mean it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Do you mean it Like?
I don't like, just plain sorry,like I would like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
I love, plain sorry, where is it?

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
then I personally don't like the game.
No, oh, this is bad.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
No like for you.
I will say, like if I dosomething and I am in a wrong, I
can just say sorry and you letit go.
Personally, I am a person whois just like, if I'm saying
sorry, I need to say why I'msorry, so you can understand
where I come from Well, but alsoyou have to remember some
things are not forgivable, somethings in life are just not
forgivable.

Speaker 3 (01:05:07):
So when I say you know, sometimes you have to take
sorry's, or you sometimes youhave to understand that sorry's
isn't the end or be all a thing,that makes me feel better.
Right, we haven't been throughthat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Not going whatever, everything.
But like we don't, haveanything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
So if I fuck up and I get my getting my fucking
feelings and I take it out onher by accident, I know I'm in
the wrong and I apologize for it.
There's been times where I'mdoing I'm apologizing as I'm
doing it because I just need avent and she's there.
I can't.
Yelling at a wall is horrible.
I've done it before.

(01:05:43):
It doesn't do that, but withher.
If I'm yelling at her and thisjust sounds toxic to people, I
understand, but there's beentimes where I'm yelling at her
but I'm not yelling at her.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
I'm using.
Well, you're naturally loudanyway.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
So it's not no, but it's definitely times when he's
been T, but when he vents he'sso passionate.
So I'm just like listening tohim as he's yelling, because
he's just getting through hisfeelings and working out his
feelings and I'm just listening.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
And then there's that all sorts of with me.
I have to get my words together.
So if I'm like, if we get intoan argument and I have to defend
myself right there, or if Ihave to respond right there, I
might say some stupid shit and Ihave to come back later and
apologize for it and get.
So if I'm not able to get mywords together, I'm fucked Right
.
You know, I'm a thinker.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I mean, I think the thing with me is accountability
is one thing true enough thatyou know we all can possess and
do but I do feel like if I'mgoing to apologize, I'm going to
sit down and I'm going to notonly apologize for what I've
done or said, but I'm also justwant to get.
The other side of the coin ishow did you feel in that moment

(01:06:54):
and what can we take away fromit and what can I do going
forward to make this better, asopposed to me just saying sorry?
Then, like you know, right,they're keeping it moving, which
I'm like.
I got one, I got to apologizeknow what apologizing is for but
then I also got to be like,look, this was, this was wrong

(01:07:17):
and this was a moment.
I'm not my proudest moment tolife in general, please forgive
me.
Can we talk about this andactually come to a happy meeting
with this situation and thengoing forward?
I know not to do this again.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Right, I mean that's good, yeah, I mean, like I, like
she's done it, I've done it.
We both had apologized, butthat's the thing, like in a
relationship.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
That's what you have to do you have to express your
emotions like once again, a lotof these people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
I'll see them in relationships and it's just like
, oh, just fucking they do notlike these each other.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
I don't get why are?

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
I don't know, because I'm like I don't know how you
can have a relationship and nothave your partner as your friend
like personally I don't get it.
I'm like I'm gonna be.
I'm supposed to be with you forthe rest of my life, right?
If that being said, we betterhave some shit to talk about
right, because I talk a lot, soyou gotta have something to say.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
That's what I'm saying, like a lot of these
motherfuckers.
And then there's their, theirrelationship for saving my work.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
That's the only reason, because they're both at
work you know, and then once byso many people got divorced
during COVID and then, and thenlike I think like each other and
then people are only with eachother for kids and it's just
like there's so many bad, badthere's so many bad reasons that
a lot of people are togetherand it's just like well man her
already does.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
What actually friends like?
We're friends that find eachother attractive, yeah, you know
, like I know and I don't wantto see her with nobody, she
doesn't want to see me withnobody.
Cool, let's see each other witheach other, exactly we're
together now motherfucking, sothat, like you have to like he

(01:08:52):
ain't lying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
I'm quite possessive.
It's gonna be a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
She is very possessive, I mean like, but it
is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I had no like remodeling.
She's very much my man, my man,my man shout out to my man.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I mean I guess the I'm no come like.
It's almost just like how doesone build a friendship in their
relationship?

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
you don't, you gotta, you kind of gotta start off,
friends, no, you can, you can't,because I mean, technically we
ain't we.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
We start off as people who knew each other
didn't got in relationshipbecause, then we broke up
because the thing is, you knowyeah when, when y'all weren't
together, y'all had that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Y'all know each other's friends right like y'all
just knew each other just cuz,yeah, now you get into
relationship, it's not justabout oh, I knew you like this,
I have to know you as a romanticpartner too, yeah, and that's
also not just a friend.
Then, like, if the next stagecome, I get to know you as a
mother now.
So now I know you.
That's why I was saying, likeit's a privileged know a person

(01:09:57):
past just one thing that's why Iwas saying yeah, yeah, I get it
, but not like it's so weird forme because it's just like look
the friendship is the main thing, because you get sex from
anything like honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
Yeah, there was a skit years ago about his dude
and how damn I rock.
Well, he talked about likesometimes I just rather beat all
than a deal with pussy gettingprocess and that's a real thing
deal with the pussy gettingprocessed like trying to find a
girl like it's somebody toactually find somebody to have
like I don't have sex with, okaypussy getting processed like

(01:10:42):
you send it too fast.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Just slow it down and think about it you all right oh
but no, like I don't, pussygetting processed.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Oh my god, three minutes later that's all right,
but no like so like there's somany other ways to have sex
right, I mean, if you just wantsex, go go pay somebody, fuck it
.
Yeah, I mean, you're alreadypaying for a date, you might be
paying for the pussy, or bedirect with her.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Say hey, all I want that too, and you'll be
surprised at what answer you get.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Oh, so if that's all you know, trust me, I know I've
done that a million times andlike, either you know either
well or they won't mm-hmm what?
So I'm thinking my text um, butlike, either they will, they
want every respect and as longas you don't do that, a whole
man fuck you.
Then, you ugly bitch, as longas you don't try that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
But that's why?
Because you were just trying togive it to my legs and I was
like I wouldn't go.
It's the way.
It's so stupid, it's so it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
But like you, need to base this shit off something
more than just attractionbecause, and like that.
I think that's where a lot ofpeople fail, because it's just
like she's gorgeous, fuckingastoundingly gorgeous, right,
but if she didn't have nopersonality and she was just

(01:11:58):
boring?

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
and she didn't make me laugh and I couldn't talk
about music or politics ormovies or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Whatever, I can't show her my real personality and
I got a high defect that Ienjoy Pokemon and I brought a
fucking BMX bike and I spend waytoo much money on sneakers.
If I got a high all this shit,it wouldn't work.
Yo, I don't have a lot ofrelationship with you at that
point.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Yeah, I mean, and that you know.
Same for me, like you know,yeah, I'm cute, but I mean, at
the end of the day, like I am anerd, you are, I am a huge nerd.
I read, I love reading, I, Ilove reading.
I have nothing but books, youknow, not a new one.
I just finished the light.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
We care about Michelle Obama that's the only
book I've seen her read ever inlife he's lying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
But anyway, you know.
You know I love to read, like Ilike anime, I like fan fiction.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I'm such a dork like I love different she literally
sits there in bed and I do.
It's so great.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
I've been reading them since I was like 13, so I
read, isn't the white books thatthe guy?

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
no, I'll show you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
I'll show you in a second but it's literally like I
read all day and it's like oneof the biggest things, like if I
couldn't read, I was like justI would probably just die.
I mean, you couldn't do thethings you do without reading
and I couldn't be the person whoI am without reading a bitch,
you know no, but the point isthat you have to find somebody

(01:13:19):
who sees things that you mightother people might not find
super attractive or boring, butthey and the whole thing about
this is that, while we havethese different things that
other people probably wouldn'tlike and I can care less about
Pokemon not my thing, but Irespect that's something that he
loves.
Why I like to read books.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
I do, but those are two different things.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
No, we don't have to have everything in common
honestly, I feel like the mainthing you have to have a common
core values, core value thatneeds to be your common ground
right there, because I hateSailor Moon he hates Broadway.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
I love.
I hate Broadway.
I hate musicals.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
I don't love musicals .

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
I love Disney.
He hates Disney.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
I like right, I like okay okay, yeah, yeah so like oh
, that's a balance.
Oh, yes, okay so but like we,our core values are the same.
Yeah, we can discuss so muchshit like we talk about music
way too much.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Yeah, I think our favorite thing is like like
turning on music and likegetting that song within like a
couple seconds now no honestlyno, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
If you got the game, we go tv please.
I have, that's what I hit.
You know what we like doing now?

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
we like putting on fucking the vivo music channels
on like blue and shit andlooking at all these dumbass new
fucking videos that are juststupid.
Some of them are really bad, andthen the artists are just as
bad, but there's some reallygood ones, oh, yeah, I found so
many dope artists like real talk, if I if it wasn't for, like
the, the, the, when we had cable, like the MTV music, the MTV

(01:14:51):
jam, shit, I would have neverknew about snow Allegra, and uh,
uh a microphone to east andshit like that.
Because like I was, just I mean, there's gyms.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
There's gyms exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
And then, but then fucking, you get people like
fucking the AR, whatever dudename, with the squeaky voice
that like, look, he goes higherthan that.
Who?
Some dude?
Ar 5, 6, 7 I forgot his name,but now like real talk.

(01:15:24):
All right, man I really wouldsit there and watch these videos
and just clown them like whatbeavis?

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
and butthead, we are beavis, and butthead.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
So it's like that's what we do and like if I didn't
have that, if I can't do that inmy relationship with you ain't
gonna be all right, we can't bein a relationship.
It's lame, it really would be.
Look, I look.
I'm sorry I couldn't be in thestreets now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
These because, like way too much, like y'all
motherfuckers really think y'allcity girls chill, I mean city
girls ain't even city girls.
Jt stay home and then like andthen Carisha with Diddy that's a
whole other thing.
She been real quiet about that,but we ain't gonna get, we're
not gonna know, but the point Itry to make is the problem is I

(01:16:19):
got in the attach it.
Well, the city girls ain't evencity girls like because a lot of
people believe in what peopleare putting out there in the
media and it's not real.
A lot of them are saying thatlike we don't really live these
lifestyles.
You know, you have thesedifferent podcasts and yes, I am
a podcaster, but you have somany podcasts that's separating

(01:16:39):
people.
Like what is she brings to thetable?
Oh, she has a degree, she knowstoo much.
Oh, she don't cook, she don'tdo enough.
It's just like you know there'sall these different degrees,
she knows too much.
I'm serious, like it'sliterally like you cuz, cuz.
It's this balance of bitchyou're real what's that I hear?

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
I can't mouth, you know, but it's definitely like
this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
But that ain't smile like, like, oh, you have your
own house, your own car, you'reindependent, then you don't need
me.
So I don't know.
You want to be the housewifeand you're not Michelle, then
you're too lazy.
So then it's like what do youwant?

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
these dudes are like oh you gotta be able to pay one
of my bills to take me out.
Oh, we can't go to Applebee.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
I like red lobster.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
I'm glad y'all said that cuz I got a piece like gift
card at my house.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
I'm bedan and I saw Applebee on a list.
I used to work at.
Applebee's now granted the food.
Ain't amazing, but the sametime that three cheese chicken,
panay pasta it gets the job, itgets the job.
That shit is fire and if I'mtaking you out to a date and you
can't appreciate the fact thatI'm about to spend $20 on a
fucking meal that I could havejust cooked at my house for way

(01:17:53):
less than what if I like?
No?

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
that don't make no sense now.
You better sit your ass downand get this to for 25.

Speaker 3 (01:17:59):
You better go ahead, go to these NBA games or these
football games, and go find youon the now, cuz you ain't gonna
find that in these streets.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
I love a chilies girl I'm looking forward to.
I want to go get some takeout,go to city park and chill and
realize with the dog.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
So okay, the city park that we was at yeah okay,
um, yeah, we gotta talk aboutthat later when it comes to you
know certain things, because I'mtrying to shoot some shit out
there, oh yeah and like I'veseen coffee shop on that list,
I'm like I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
That's an ideal thing .

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
First off, you're not spending mad money to get to
know somebody on the first dateyeah, like being by the person
exactly, I'm talking about firstday wise.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
No, I know, that's what I'm saying I just like
being in front, like the frontof the, as you should be,
because, I mean, you're lookingto see who the person is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Yeah, but like I mean , yeah, let's say somebody blows
600, 700 for a meal, but thenhe tries out to be an asshole.
Yeah, why does it matter then?

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
right, it's like let's go to a coffee shop, let's
get some tea, let's get somehot chocolate.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Right, let's talk about each other this is like
what are you interested in?

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
because maybe you're doing something I might like and
I'm gonna like you know right,because that's a big thing to me
like baby.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
That's how I fell in love with one of my exes.
No shade like we would justsend each other Spotify talk
about your dress okay, all rightwhat's it?

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
it's five, but then we're you know, they ain't
coming on time.
I don't know why you're gonnabe telling the person who's
coming.
Maybe on time.
Y'all is my sister, but mysister never comes on time
because we're black.
But did I say that out loud?

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
I'm sorry, love my sister okay, yeah, no, my sister
is literally not, she's uptown,they own it for some word about
.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Well, she has to get our nephew sweetheart, don't
play with him on this podcast,but no, seriously, like I, just
I don't.
I don't get a lot, I don't know.
I feel like if we were, godforbid, but we would ever to not
be what we are, I think.
I would just have to be single.
I don't know which makes me sadfor, like people who are out

(01:20:11):
here really looking, and I'mjust like I do believe there are
some people who believe in aman of fear and I forgot what
the female equivalent?
because there is a femaleequivalent to it.
I just cannot think of the nameof it, and there are women out
here who have that same issue.
But, to be fair, a lot ofpeople really, really don't.
They're just looking and theyjust haven't found that person
yet you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
I think that's why I'm running too many issues
being in the gay community,because it's like I know that we
all want love but we all don'twant to get hurt because of that
drastic situation.
So we all just trying to, whenI ain't gonna say we all,
because it's not me girl, but welike.
I feel like that's why hook upculture is a thing because it's

(01:20:55):
like we all just trying to feelsomething other than just, you
know, like despair and sadness.
And you know, because we're inthe gay community we got too
much of it, so now we justtrying to fuck our lives away
and pop poppers and not me, girl, but um and do all the things,
girl.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
I gotta story to tell you about that bullshit to girl
girl you know, I tried one justfor the hell of it, wasn't even
having sex.
Just try one for the hell of it.
Why would you do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
You got a headache, didn't you?

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
oh my god, leave my ass on the floor for 15 years,
me and my friend, we were justat his house like literally,
because I have a lot of guyfriends, right and it was like
not a sexual thing at all, andwe were at his house with my
other friend, who's also a gayguy and um, just have, so have
and just have peppers.
So we tried them rightliterally just in the kitchen,

(01:21:45):
on the floor, like this,everybody's on the kitchen floor
.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
And then we got it and rushed all the blood to your
head.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Oh my god, so freaking fast yeah and then you
just like well, that was a thing, mm-hmm.
I mean, thank God it passedthrough your system really fast.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Yeah, that's why they keep this, that's why they keep
puffing it, that's why.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
I was, I ain't for me not.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Shoot.
I'm with Beyonce when she saysto me drugs for some freak shit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
How did you change?
My husband is like a king ofthe quick change.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Why no?
Turning on it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
is on, it's on.
Yeah, I mean, that was, thatwas a.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Loud in those days I wasn't doing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Did that too, but nah , I'm not, so I did poppers once
.
It was weird.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
I'm a friend Keith.
My friend Keith told me whatpoppers right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Yeah, I know no one in the room is having sex.
Everyone is just just randomlytrying drugs and they were just
like huh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
It's not good enough for you to get you ahead a child
.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
I mean it didn't last long, but also was I was highly
intoxicated.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
I had a drinking problem out this world?

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
I don't know how you did?
Oh, I did.
I'm gonna share a story, butit's too, too graphic, oh, Fuck,
keep, I love, keep.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
the depth of that motherfucker went to detail.
I'm just like bitch, I don'tneed to notice Like bruh it was,
it was loud, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
I didn't do no poppers, but the person I was
with was doing and I'm like, sir, I am turned off, get up off me
, cuz this ain't doing nothingfor me, but I'm worried about
you like this, I think, becausehe had so many and they were
like dead.
I was just like, oh, you dothis.
No, it was one I didn't do no,I'm saying like with him and

(01:23:43):
like I said oh so you be doingthis on the frequent.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
I'm like okay, I'm good.
No, I think, at least for me, Ican't speak about that.
You, I was just like I'm likegoing through things like our
family and we and we weren'ttogether and then I mean I
definitely had like Prudence.

(01:24:10):
I was drinking bottles andbottles of alcohol bomb.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
I was drinking Cody and at that time it was wild
days.
I was on that lane like amotherfucking.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
I've always been afraid to try it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Well, we lean lean sister.
Oh, that's fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
I mean I'm afraid to try, I mean it's not good, I've
done it.
It's not good, it's not fun,it's not fun.

Speaker 4 (01:24:31):
I'm gonna be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Like I used to do it and then, like it became a habit
to where, like I was doing ittoo much, I had to mix it back,
like the other point where I wasmixing the codeine and
Promethazine with alcohol, notspray.
Yeah, this one was right.
I'm not supposed to be to Apple.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
I did, it was right.
I never did it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Well, I'm not spray, you can make sure, like any food
, I was mixed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
It was right.
I'm just saying personally,like you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
So was it?
Was it a downer yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
which is crazy.
Then you want to go out andparty.
I did, but then you put you ona downer.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
So if you take a upper and a downer, do it can't
reach out out.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Oh yeah, I think we do a type of crazy things and
you think about, like that's whyyou should not supposed to have
red bull and Baca.
Those are the worst combination, because it's like having a
liquid cocaine.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
Same thing with a.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
I suppose to do that people do it all the time.
Let me have a bottle Red Bullliquid cocaine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
I'm gonna cut that bitch.
I just realized, oh that bitch,oh she the jail.
She should go because the wayshe said, you know you drink red
one like yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
I'm gonna do it cuz people don't really think about
the consequences and Red Bull isliterally 20s, like you don't
really think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
I was up for that whole day and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
Girl Like I was like I could go to sleep, for shit
like Misses, I had a boss and,mind you, he wasn't doing no
drugs.
He was not doing drugs, but hewould be so busy at work he
would like pretty much like,almost like mixing, like coffee,
the variable, like it's yourheart just beating fast, fast,
fast, fast, fast, fast.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
That's what I'm happy .
I grew up in that era ofalcohol, of, like you know, md
2020, hypnoe and Hanice see cuzlike I know that's how we know
you were going through somethingcuz MD 2020.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
Okay, look.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
You get liquor stores in Jersey would sell you, sell
you in the 2020.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Yeah, the one about Right down the street.
I literally like I will go inin the morning.
You know you get your littleorange MD, so it looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Yeah, I thought I was doing something with the four
locals I was going down now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
I knew I was going through some shit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Drinking for.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Once and she was just like hell, no.
But now she was not to be fair.
They ain't gonna do her likethat.
She was the girl girl.
My sister was always a goodgirl.

Speaker 3 (01:27:07):
I was getting caught when I heard fabulous Go, ain't
no time to look with that hip.
No, it do to me, I'll act whenit's not.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Not a see, oh, that's , that's a dope drink right
there.
That's you hip not a see.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
That's not like hypnotic and ecstasy.
That does not sound like somejob.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
No, I put hypnotic and odyssey.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
No, but if you say hypnotic ecstasy, hypnotic, see
oh.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
I heard hypnotic.
See this why I was like.
But now, like the moment Iheard fabulous say that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
I was like, oh, what the fuck is that?
And I seem to bottle my mom.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
She was like I'm not sure I'm doing that I ain't like
you drinking hard.
What is wrong with our parents?
My parents never okay, oh no.
That's a whole different.
Hold on, let me, let me, let mevindicate my mother real quick,
because she did not have medrinking.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I have.
My parents did not have medrink.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
I was sneaking drinking with my little cousin
who had 1800 bottles in hercloset at the tender age of 14,
and we were taking shots on herback room and her mother didn't
even find out till we hit thetender age of 20.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Oh, hard looking that's how that bullshit?

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
I was just taking a shot because the bitch had it in
there.
I'm just trying to figure outhow she had it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Md-21.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Y'all Mean she had like fold, like 1800 bottles For
some reason, I think she toldme that she had bleep, bleep by
for and that's why she was ableto have it in her room.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
See, I wasn't that good to get some.
I had bleep, bleep by me, stufftoo Cuz.
I was it going to the spoke, Iain't gonna get caught.
No, I had a bleep bleep whojust good things.
Now, right, I'm a saying whatthe fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
how you looking, how mother, you know that she was
cleaning out her room becauseshe was moving out, because she
was, you know, getting herapartment and things.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
We are.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Lisa baby.
I mean, I think I said girl youjust not finding out, we've
been, we've been getting drunkin her back room for years, girl
, you just not.
But then again, that's thatagain.
You know, kids don't tell yourparents nothing.
You so you still know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
Like you know, I don't mind what Lisa did.
Lisa she a you are bra mess,that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Lisa no.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
I was damn mom trying to help you out never my.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Ain't really that fucking potent, like it's
literally just.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Are you sure?
Because hypnotic I drink nottoo long ago was very potent and
I only took one sip and I wasgood with that.
I haven't, I haven't, I haven'tdrunk drunk, drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
I haven't drink you haven't had a drink.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
I haven't had a drink in months.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Yeah, so that when you don't drink like that, your
tolerance you know, get low.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Yeah, that's why I like oh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Because she likes to throw him down.
Girl back in the day, I used tobe shit I mean yeah, but I mean
shit.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Tasha 25.
I could drink Tasha 35 underthe table.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
I'm okay with my diet to be in a better space.
I'm dying for years was likesix jack and coax and ten shots
of Jameson.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Oh God, that's a drink, jack and Coke.
Okay, so I celebrate him.
I celebrate my birthday at bigplay, which is this arcade in
the area of Biloxi, mississippi.
Go there, have a good time.
They got $2 Tuesdays forbowling.
It's come on now.
You can just put them to sleepwhen you in the car.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
I can't put.
Put them in a little sausageand give him a little pill.
I can't do that, no, justwalking asleep like a little
baby.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Okay, so what was I saying?
Sorry, my jacket coat.
So he was over therecelebrating my birthday and I
was with a group of myco-workers who I really love.
Shout out to them, one of them,he drinks Jack and Coke.
I said, okay, we can all dothis, you don't give a fuck.
Now he told the dumb part toGive me an extra cup because we
need.
We're gonna make sure everybodywas accounted for.

(01:31:17):
That man put an extra shotInside the goddamn Jack and Coke
.
So we are, he's my type of barso all of us are sweating inside
the photo booth.
Girl, we look like we don't ranall the way through Las Vegas
and back, girl we look.

Speaker 4 (01:31:36):
Toa girl.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
My hair was flat, it was like it was girl.
I look, I was feeling real good, my hair was full.
I was really like no casual butcute Chow got the drink in that
fucking shit and got to thatdamn photo booth to realize my
head went like this I said ohyeah, I'm toe up, look.
And then we all got, we alldrove there.

(01:31:58):
So I'm just like, okay, thankGod I live like 10 minutes away,
right here, because my godthere would have been a mess.
Then I knew something was upbecause I walked out the place
with my goddamn bowling shoes onand forgot my shoes in the
actual place, so I don't wentand got to the damn stoplight
like two blocks down and got acar from a co-worker.
Oh, you like your shoes, comeback.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
For real like that's these expensive motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
Yeah Well, I know I just like I don't like the
clunky-ass bowling shoes.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
I didn't feel them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Oh, you must, you was .

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Look, now I do with my cousin meant when she, when
she gets drunk here, she's justlike I drink, so I don't feel my
feet.
I was like that's a thing and Irealized, yes, oh wait, the
cousin, I was here, yes, oh no,she shouldn't be no no.
No, that's the only likewhenever I come bring her to New
Orleans.
That's the only way she's ableto walk around New Orleans with

(01:32:51):
me is because she get drunk,yeah that's insane, wow.
The thing between thatsituation was the fact that that
little silly bitch didn't drinkthat water, like I told her.
That's why she was out ofbreath.
She got right when I gave herwater.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
But treat your cousin like a freaking house plan.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
I said.
I said you, little bitchy, lookhere, I'm a cute because she
don't dangerously love right now.
But, bitch, you better get youract together.
I said that's all the fuckingtook to get your ass right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
Yeah, that's how long it took out again.
That's a whole different story.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
How's that?
The fight the people at theSuperdome?
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:33:45):
They don't need a whole more conscious there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
Like things could have been a whole lot why?
Why people ain't coming in nomore, and they're so sad, cuz I
mean I'm happy to come over here.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Well, you should be coming soon.
It's Nikki having her touchshow down.
Yeah, she is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
Yeah, I got that, so I got my tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Tickets and like a bad back.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
That's really fast.
Okay, it's talking to you,queen, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
So I'm like happy about it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Yes yes, love her.
That's my girl, don't we loveher I mean.
I give her too much because shehad a good time.
Now, just like girl, don't youever do that, don't tell, pull
that shit mean.
Look to her defense.
Her loop is was acting up thatday.
So we didn't know, I didn'tknow what was going on yeah.
And she was just like child.
Look, you don't understand.
This ain't never happened mebefore.

(01:34:46):
I said I see that, but girl.

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
I mean, when she was here, she was talking about
drinking.
All right, we gonna, we have agood time, you know you, you
want to be messed up, you wantto be like, not messed up, you
want to be tipsy loose for aconcert, but you want to
experience right, you don't wantpass out the front row.
You know you don't want to belike those other people, like
falling asleep doing a concert.

Speaker 3 (01:35:08):
They had too much Keep dead.
What was the tour right before?
Right before, not Renaissanceformation?

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
No, yeah, under run formation on the run to, he was
on the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Like he was like ground floor passed out.
A see, mr O'Connor.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
That's crazy, cuz I had a ball at the top of our
tour, tour to, I didn't out.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
I love keep the death .

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
All this money and I can't see be.
First of all, I'm glad like theseats that I bought was close
by y'all, because I'm like, okay, I was more focused on seeing
the screen cuz I was likelooking at clips throughout, you
know, over times and I was justI fell in love with the
interludes and I really want tojust hear how the music really
sounded, and I'm just likethat's why I was so excited in

(01:36:07):
the movie theater when we wentto go see, because I was hoping
she would play them in lose.
In the movie it's smaller.
If you haven't seen.
I'm so sorry if y'all have notseen rena renaissance.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
It is more like Come on, it's gonna be out of
theaters anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
She might put it out on weekdays.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
That miss work for dawn, but I Baby, I would I tell
her.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
I said, I told them I was like girl, you, you and I,
only few people.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
I would actually Actively miss work for get out
of job.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Just come over here, see you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
No, baby, I can't take off, no more days.
I.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
Said I got, I gotta say some, I gotta say some PCO
for these shows coming around.
Okay we talked about enough.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Let's see we talked about just life, life sadness.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
I might pay attention .
No more.
John Reciping on red wine.
I'm much on a mic and Ike andI'm sipping on a bottle of water
, so I mean you ate the mic andIke's throughout the whole
episode.
I mean, yeah, I Can't help it.
I really love them so much.
And if I have a man that wantsto love on me and bring me Mike

(01:37:24):
and Ike's the mega mix kind orthe green box kind, it doesn't
matter, as long as the shit ischeap and tastes good, I will
gladly accept and you can takeme out on a date.
Oh my word, it's good and freeand fast.
First of all, mike and Ike, canyou give me a brand deal please
, cuz I'm an independent artistand I would love the money each

(01:37:46):
out all the time.
Well, I don't eat child.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Shut up oh my god, I'm taking the wine away from
him at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
Yeah, it's been real.
It was a pleasure to introducemy husband to y'all, because
yeah.
It's like a real big part of mylife and he is like my very
best friend.
We've been trying to do for thelongest so like when we talk and
we really just have a good time, like we just be clowning and
just having a good time.
So just give y'all a small bitof my world.
Is has been wonderful and thegorgeous Sharon is baseman

(01:38:20):
Anthony and stuff, because he ishe's fam, y'all, he's fam.
So I know this episode has beenkind of all over the place
because you just disassociate,because this is literally how I?
oh my god, this is literally howour conversations go, so I hope
this wasn't too all over theplace.
I hope y'all was able to follow.
If not, y'all can comment.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
It's okay with the title of the last episode.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Yes, but I love the place again.
But these grown folks talk.
I really hope y'all enjoyedthis episode.
If not, it's okay.
I understand we are kind ofchaotic, we are a chaotic family
, but thank y'all for listeningand I hope y'all have a
wonderful day.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Socials.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
Oh yeah, I guess we got to do that too.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Well, I'm attached to do a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
People can't spell, baby, you got to tell them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
T H E D O U L A Do la .

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
Yes, all right, white Mike go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
So John's Instagram is Instagramcom.
Slash white Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
That's W I T E M I C.
There is no H in that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
And the fabulous voice that you're hearing right
now is my Voice.
My name is Anthony Hale.
My Instagram is officialAnthony Hale because Anthony.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Artist for me talking to him.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
You Ain't have to bring him up.
No shade to him.
No shade to him.
Like you know, I'm not gonnastop him from using his name.
That's my name as well, but youknow how we got talk like that.
But just the official AnthonyHale O, f, l, I, c, I, a, l, a,

(01:40:06):
m, t H O N Y H A L E, becauseobviously some bitches can't
spell and I have to spell it out.
My website, official Anthonycalm, which is under wraps right
now because it did just tryingto get some things into works.
Youtube comm slash.
Official Anthony.
All of my music and streamingsand music videos are all there
as well.
Following on Spotify, applemusic.

(01:40:27):
Welcome to the.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Anthony Hale podcast I know, I am like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
I was like a two minutes of him talking.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
I got to plug myself.
My new album, mind games, isgonna be out in 2024, the top of
the year.
Dangerous yes, my single fromthe album is called dangerous.
It is out Music video tobecoming so.
I'm so excited.

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
Go stream SOS.
It's just a good album, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
What do we listen to currently?
What's what's your jam?
What am I?

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
listening to.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
The Disney soundtrack for things oh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
No, honestly, I just feel listening to Renaissance
all the time I'm not cracking it.
He got crack in it.
You listen to like look, la, lala.

Speaker 3 (01:41:24):
No no, I, that was like a month ago now.
Like, I'm sorry, I'm goingthrough my terabyte of like.
I'm like shit I haven'tlistened to yet.
So I literally just listened toAll the Coco Jones music.
Love her, love her.
You can tell a difference fromlike, oh, yeah, I.

(01:41:46):
Listen to all the tutorialmoney stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
Crack in it.
Lucky day stuff so that's ourmusic right there.
That's how I clean up the musicon Saturdays.
That's that's ours.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
Honestly, you know what I've been listening to
lately?
Fucking the deaf jam fight forNew York soundtrack in a damn
game.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
I swear like.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
And, to be fair, I actually I went back and I was
just listening to new breedrecently I Went back into the
dawn or shard.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
You better say you're right.
But yeah, I went back cuz I wasjust like you know.
Let's go back to like a coupleyears.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
I simply, I simple that on the first track of my
album.
Y'all here soon.
Oh yes, that new breed thatthat album is always in rotation
with me, like all the time.
So I'm glad you said it becausethat's like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Sometimes you just go .
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
and you can live.
Now you can literally play itall the way through and it works
.
But you know I had the originalversion, so I'm special like
that.
Let me not be messy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
But anyway, my message has to listen to
jealousy, like like I'm goingthrough something.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
I'm the reason he flourished it, the reason he
wake up in the morning, thecookie that he eats when he and
this fucking pie.
That's down and I'm mad, ain'tgot picked up.
I'm gonna be uploaded again,just for shit.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Oh my god, we have a cookie party.
Speaking of cookies, yeah, Ihope you have a wonderful year
if you hear this before the endof this year.
I highly doubt it.
But if not, happy 2024.
I hope the error thing happensthe way you want it to happen
and I hope that you guys aremaking your journals and you're
manifesting and you're trying tomake your way out of whatever

(01:43:34):
situation You're going through.
And God bless.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
Yeah, have a good night, Keep living and keep
loving.

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