July 14, 2025 • 33 mins
If you were still on the fence about Carrie Bradshaw being the actual worst, this episode knocked you off and dragged you. Between flinching at Miranda’s kiss, sabotaging Miranda’s party plans, and pulling a full “What are you doing in my kitchen?” meltdown because Miranda made an observation, our girl Carrie is out here giving main character syndrome a bad name.
We talk Patti LuPone (yes, she was right there and did not sing), Joy’s tragic gift mix-up, Harry’s redemption arc (that’s our guy!), and how Carrie’s entire personality shapeshifts depending on which man is orbiting her that week.
Also: Miranda was thriving. Lily was sulking. Charlotte deserved a better party. And the writers clearly stopped caring about continuity somewhere around 2022.
And yes—Carrie really said she’s been with Aidan for 20 years. This bitch.
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(00:10):
We're at the Wait Podcast and just like that recap, Sarah.
Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
If we ever questioned whether ornot Carrie was like, awful, I
don't think there's any questionafter this episode.
There's really not. I'm so glad you're on the same
page with me here, but. I am very much on the same page
(00:30):
with you on this one. So for people who I don't know
if you watched it, didn't watch it, obviously watch it.
Yeah, there's probably going to be some spoilers here.
If you, you know, you want to watch the episode first before
you listen, that's fine. I would stop here.
But what I will say is it startswith I believe they're in
(00:51):
Anthony's Bread fellas, hot fellas, whatever the fuck it's
called. Yeah, hot fellas.
And he's waiting for Giuseppe's mother to arrive from Rome.
And she's played by Patti Lupone.
Now. I like Patti Lupone.
Unfortunate. Well, she, she had a big misstep
a couple of weeks ago in an interview she did with The New
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Yorker. Where?
She went after. She did and she said them about
two black actresses, theatre actresses like Audra McDonald,
who was like the legend on Broadway.
And she apologized. She admitted that her comments
were completely inappropriate. And so OK, she she said she was
wrong. She didn't dig her heels in, but
(01:32):
she plays the mother. So she comes in and she's lovely
to everybody, but she doesn't like Anthony, right?
Which is very clear. And we figure out why a little
bit later. But in any case, they're all
sitting there talking and Charlotte's talking about how
she's stretched really thin and she has so much on her plate.
And Miranda's like, why? What's going on?
And Charlotte, is everything OK,Right.
(01:55):
And Charlotte's Moranda's like, is everything OK?
And Charlotte was like, oh, yeah, everything's fine.
You know, how her voice goes arereally high.
And she looks at Carrie. And it what it reminded me of is
the the episode where Miranda find outs, finds out she's
pregnant and Charlotte is talking about babies and how she
can't get pregnant. Now.
I know it's me. I know it's me.
Everybody's getting pregnant butme and and Carrie and Miranda
(02:17):
are exchanging glances and Charlotte's like, what the F?
What's with the eyes? And Miranda tells her she's
pregnant and Charlotte gets up and she leaves.
And Samantha goes, oh, no, no, I'm I'm confusing that with
another one. That was a different episode
where Charlotte gets up and leave and Miranda says, and
she's never coming back. But it wasn't this episode.
That's what that's what this andjust like that reminded me of.
(02:38):
So they changed the subject. Carrie and Miranda are walking
home and Carrie says, you know, I really Charlotte's birthday's
coming up. I really want to throw her a big
party and I want it to be fun. And she needs something fun.
And Miranda is sensing something's up, but she's
saying, what's going on? Why is her why is her plate so
full? Is are the kids OK?
And Carrie. Oh, no, the kids are fine.
(03:00):
And Carrie's making it very clear.
Look, I know what it is, but youdon't know what it is.
And of course, Miranda's going to be like, well, is it Harry?
No, everything. No, no, no, it's not Harry.
And then Carrie comes up with this lie about the Charlotte's
dog, Richard Burton, having an incurable tumor, having cancer,
and he's dying. So this becomes sort of a
(03:21):
running gag throughout the episode.
So Carrie has the party at her place Miranda wanted.
To do it, this is the first thing that Carrie did that
pissed me off by. The way well, but to me it made
sense. Why wouldn't you?
Why would you want to have it atMiranda's Teeny like the place
is crowded. Because Miranda's place isn't
teeny. Well, compared to Carrie's.
Right. Everyone's house is small
(03:42):
compared to Carrie's, right? But that's the thing, Carrie.
Like, we get it, You're the girlwith the most cake, OK, we get
it. Meanwhile, Miranda has an
apartment that she's actually worked for, and she's excited,
too. Wait a minute.
Hold on. I have a house for you.
Wait a minute. That reminds me of Charlotte.
Oh, I earned that apartment. Was she talking about Trey?
(04:04):
Oh, I earned that. Apartment.
I mean, Charlotte didn't either,but but she's.
Yeah, whatever. Yeah, whatever, whatever.
So, yeah. Like, just let Miranda have the
house warming party. I mean, later they fill the
house in a way that that like, in retrospect, it makes sense to
have it at Carries, but why? Like we had no reason to believe
(04:25):
that many people were going to show up because as far as we've
known for the last 30 years, allthese women have 3 friends.
Right, plus, but right. But Charlotte has a ton of
friends from school, right? She has a ton of people from
school. It's great whatever they have
the party at Carrie's place now the other part of the episode,
(04:46):
we're kind of jumping around here because I feel like the
episode really jumped around. I didn't feel that it was very
linear. They so they but we'll stay
we'll stay linear. So they have the party at
Carrie's place and she invites the neighbor downstairs because
hey, there's going to be a lot of noise.
Why don't you come? Which right.
It's such an inviting invitationCarrie and he he agrees.
(05:07):
Now she has read his the 1st chapter of his book and she this
just thinks it's brilliant. So she gives him her first
chapter and she's very, very worried.
It's going to be terrible, terrible, terrible.
He. Yes, we were part of it.
The woman wondered what did she get herself into?
Right. And he ends up reading it and
telling her that it's brilliant,right.
(05:29):
So now we know he wants to sleepwith her, tells her it's
brilliant. No, Carrie must have put it down
or the, or the neighbor maybe put it down.
I don't know. Somebody brought it upstairs.
It was on the table. Miranda had to move it for the
caterers and she started to readit.
And this is important because we'll get to why this is
important. They cut to Charlotte being in
Nordstrom, I don't know, some really expensive department
(05:51):
store. And she sees Harry and Harry is
with this other woman. And of course, Charlotte starts
to panic and wonder what's goingon.
And it turns out that Harry has been using a personal shopper to
buy all of Charlotte's gifts for, I don't know, probably
forever, right? And here's the thing.
So Harry and Charlotte and this woman, they're talking.
And Charlotte says, you know, Harry, you know, what are you?
(06:14):
What are you doing up? You know, don't you think you
should be home and resting? And the personal shopper says,
that's what I told him. But you know, he's just, he's
just so brave, making it very clear to Charlotte, fucking
Harry told the personal shopper.Meanwhile, Charlotte can't tell
anyone, right? But he tells the personal
shopper. Because, as usual, men will look
(06:34):
for free therapy and emotional labor wherever they go.
They will, but also I, I view this episode as Harry's
redemption episode because I think it's very understandable
how he would end up confiding inthis person that he's known for,
you know, 20 plus years, but still is like unequipped.
Removed. Yes, it is.
(06:55):
It is easier to talk about things with people who aren't
directly involved with your life, right?
Because you don't see them all the time.
They're not going to be asking alot of questions.
They're not going to be staring at you and looking at you with
pity. And they're they're not going to
be doing all of that. Right.
And I think that's ultimately why Charlotte takes this pretty
well. Yes, yes she does.
Well, was she? Because she seems a little.
(07:17):
She seems pretty pissed to me. She's she seems a little pissed,
but I I still think she takes itpretty well.
So matter of opinion. Now remember, Miranda believes
that Richard Burton is dying, and so she invites Joy to this
party. But she tells.
Joy in this episode. But she right this now, OK, This
(07:37):
Miranda, I don't know, listen. I love this Miranda.
So she tells Joy she was a woman, that she's dating, that
Charlotte's dog is dying and Joyis naturally because she has
dogs. Oh my God, I could not imagine
any dog owner is immediately going to be empathetic and just
gutted on the behalf of another dog owner.
Well, let's not forget Miranda had a cat too for many years, so
(08:01):
she's it's not like she doesn't get it at all.
Well, she also had Scout. Remember, she didn't have Scout.
Right. So she did have pets.
She did understand. Yeah.
And so she invites Joy to this party.
Joy comes to the party. Now Miranda wants to do.
She brings this karaoke machine.She bought it.
She bought it and I just didn't understand what about this
(08:23):
apartment or this party, says karaoke fun.
I just I because karaoke has gotto be fun.
Right. And Miranda shows up with all
these balloons and really prettyballoons, by the way, really
pretty colored balloons. And the karaoke machine.
And impeccable jumpsuit. Impeccable jumpsuit and Carrie.
Carrie apparently had no decorations for this party.
Right. She's got no furniture, she's
(08:44):
got no decorations. She's the furniture.
She she brought in all the chairs.
She she did she like brought in furniture.
She whatever rented it. Now Miranda is all about the
fun. And Carrie, I want to have this
party at my place, not a stitch of decorations.
Decoration, right, for this party.
No, nothing, nothing, right? Because like you said, carries
(09:04):
only purpose. Well, it was bigger.
But I also think, right, like Carrie, Carrie for so long was
the poor one of the group, and now she's the richest one.
And she really doesn't do anything to hide that.
She is constantly rubbing it in people's faces.
Yeah, she really wants us to know.
Right. She really wants us to know.
(09:26):
So all these people that we didn't even know existed show up
and she is, you know, the, the party's going well, I guess
Miranda wants to do karaoke. And the only person interested
is Lisa and Herbert's oldest son, who I think they're trying
to imply might be gay or middle son, but who they're might be
trying to imply is gay. I'm not sure but I'm I'm
(09:48):
obsessed with this plot line. Right, because he just keeps
singing show tunes. This is another way that Carrie
pissed me off this episode, right?
Because the first of all, Miranda bought a karaoke
machine. You're welcome, right?
Let's back up a second for to when Joy walks in and kisses
Miranda and Carrie flinches. Yeah, yeah.
(10:10):
What the fuck? Right, probably because right,
go ahead. And then right again.
Miranda bought a karaoke machine.
You're fucking welcome. She brought balloons.
You're welcome. I'm pretty sure Miranda
organized the cake. I think so.
Unclear. But either way, you're welcome,
Carrie, Right? Right.
And then of course, people use the karaoke machine.
(10:31):
And then Duncan shows up and Carrie decides she's she's above
this party. Isn't this party lame?
Isn't it lame how this child canenjoy things?
Fuck you. Right, right.
Carrie So watching this episode and she.
God, when she's telling him about the party, when she first
(10:51):
invites him, well, I, you know, there's something about, you
know, there's karaoke and he goes, I love karaoke, right,
Right. And does she not suddenly, does
she not? But did she not suddenly change?
She did. Right, change her approach,
because Carrie's entire identityrevolves her on is dependent on
whatever man is in her orbit and.
It was such a waste honestly. Like this episode could have
(11:14):
been actually fun because we know SJP can sing.
Right. We know.
We know. Patti Lupone can sing.
You had Patti Lupone. She's right there.
She's right there. Oh my God.
But anyway, she shows up, thank God.
Who does? Bitsy.
Bitsy von Muffling, love, love, love.
(11:36):
I'm so glad they work her into these episodes.
But I loved the line from Patti Lupone.
Of course, when they're saying, oh, you didn't like the karaoke
and she goes too much singing for my liking, which is
obviously like a wink to the audience.
Like this is Patti fucking Lupone, who is one of our
greatest, like, theater singers.She's a singer, right?
(11:56):
So I love that. But again, Patti Lupone was
right there. She couldn't sing.
Evita. Don't cry for me, Argentina.
Nothing. Nothing.
Right. Come on.
She's right. There, to me it was so striking
how much Carrie and Lily were behaving simplerly this episode.
I don't. Think that's a coincidence?
Yeah, No, can't, right. And I partly.
(12:19):
Was pouting because her boyfriend dumped her.
Thank God. Thank God, but now I'm right on
the wall. Yes, But now that I'm thinking
of the karaoke, I wonder if the whole purpose of the karaoke
machine was because Patti Luponewas going to be there and they
wanted to try to get her to singand she was like, go fuck
yourself because she is like that.
She was like, Nah, people pay mea lot of money to do that.
(12:40):
Well, I don't know. I mean I would imagine they paid
her well for the episode but whoknows.
But to sing Patti Lupone, to sing, Yeah, you're paying.
Act as you should. As you should.
It's Patti fucking Lupone, right?
Like her or don't like her. It's still Patti Lupone.
She puts butts in the seat. Sarah.
She does. She does so.
Speaking of Patti Lupone, she and Carrie go to lunch, which is
(13:02):
that's. Fucking weird too, right?
Right. Very weird.
And now Patti Lupone, the character Gia.
And I love, I just love that Italian name.
Who's from Buffalo. I'm trying to figure out the
accent. She's from Buffalo, but she
lives in Rome. I don't, I don't know.
I don't know if she's being pretentious, I don't know.
I think so. She's a therapist.
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Or she just, who knows, maybe she just could have grown up
around Italians, around the accent.
I don't know. She's a therapist.
And she's talking about how Giuseppe's father was much, much
older than her. So now we're starting to see why
she doesn't like Anthony, right?Because.
The reason? To me, the reason makes
absolutely no sense. Well, probably the husband left
(13:44):
her, I thought. She said that he died.
Did he die well at one point? I'd have I'd you know, I'd have
to go back and and verify. Yeah, I would have to go back
and verify as well. I'm not quite sure.
But in any case, I think the reason she doesn't like Anthony
is because the dynamic is repeating itself.
But she also says that he had this man, had all these children
that didn't like her. Right.
(14:06):
And Carrie says that she's in a similar situation.
Oh, you're the enemy too. Gia says, well, not really.
I mean, no. Well, with one of them, I guess
I am. And she says, do you have any
advice for me? And Gia says do not stop being
yourself. Be exactly who you are, which,
unfortunately for Carrie, is terrible and.
Yeah, that's not great advice. It's it's it's not great, but
(14:26):
she's right and and she is rightand it's not gonna Yeah.
Don't pretend to be somebody that you're not and then
disinherit them right after you die and leave them wondering
you're the rest of the if you ever really love them or I'm
just projecting. I don't know.
That might have happened to me. But she's saying to Carrie, be
exactly who you are. Don't don't pretend to be
somebody else. And great.
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So they have this lunch. Whatever.
Anthony finally by the end of the party, stands up to this
bitch and I don't know, she sayssomething to him, something
snotty. He's like, I don't know Gia.
I don't know what he says something really, really snotty,
but he calls her Gia. Do you remember what he said to
her? I don't, but I think he manages
to mention Buffalo as well, which I appreciate it.
(15:08):
Right? Like he doesn't come out and
say, I don't know Gia from Buffalo, but that was the
effect. Right.
And I think that's supposed to be like, I think she's supposed
to respect him for that, as she should, because he should have,
he should have stood up to her. But I have a feeling she's
coming back. I think that's why they said,
oh, I'm going to stay a week. So she's probably going to be in
another episode, I'm going to assume.
It sounds like yeah. Yeah, I hope so.
(15:30):
But but also, why would that character decide to stay other
than to torment Anthony? It's weird.
Well, to be with her son. Yeah, but it was the timing is
is SUS maybe. Yeah, maybe I I just think that
she feels like Anthony is maybe taking advantage of her much,
much, much younger son. He's like 24.
(15:51):
Yeah. Maybe 25.
Anthony is twice his age. The fact that they're in it, did
he say they're engaged to my future mother-in-law?
Are you serious? Yeah.
Please, if this were a woman, ifGiuseppe were a woman, we would
be all the ick. All the ick.
That's true. I mean, I think it's, I think
what has kept the ick at Bay is just that Mario Canton looks
(16:12):
great. Right, he does.
He does. He's not aging, right?
I'm not going to say he's aging backwards, but he looks great.
And also it just, you know, it'snot it's not a complicated
situation. There are no kids involved.
I mean, if anything, you could equally argue that Giuseppe is
taking advantage of Anthony. I don't think it's the case that
either of them is actually taking advantage, right?
(16:33):
No. But from the outside you you
could argue either side. Correct.
So now we get to the the real, the real, the meaty, the meaty
part of the episode. Let's talk about what Patti
Lupone's character, Gia says. She says something like, oh, I
just think it's desperate and gross when someone that old
pursues someone that much younger, right?
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And that, I think, is what sets.I think that's what sets Anthony
off as it should and as it would.
But what are you talking about, Gia?
But this is what I'm saying. I think that her reason for not
liking Anthony has to do with her ex-husband or her former
husband. That would make sense if we
hadn't just seen her at lunch with Carrie gushing about this
(17:18):
man. Was she?
Well, yeah, in the beginning, but I think she.
But in the beginning. In the beginning, right.
But. And also, it could very well be
that what she's afraid of is you're twice his age.
You're gonna die in 10 years. What's gonna happen to him?
I mean, fair, right? But then I don't, you know,
there's like a nicer way of experts, right Concern.
(17:40):
Right. But she's, as we all know, most
therapists are way more fucked up than your average person.
And so she's probably working through her own stuff.
She's projecting, she's projecting her stuff onto
Anthony. We, we get it, Gia from Buffalo,
right. So we cut to, we get to the end
of the party. And I love the dress that Carrie
was wearing. Carrie's cleaning the kitchen in
that dress. Right.
I mean, kind of. She's wiping the counters.
(18:02):
Did it not take her forever to wipe that fucking counter?
It's like she's never done it before.
Well. Kristen, her counter's so big,
you know, because her house is so big.
Remember how big our house? Is right, but that kitchen looks
like it was. It does.
It looks like it hasn't been updated.
Like girl, what are you talking?What are those burners?
What are those burners on the stove?
Where is your electric stove? What?
What? Well, she doesn't.
(18:23):
I mean, why would she update thekitchen?
She uses her because she doesn'tuse it.
Right. The only time she uses it is
when Miranda wants a yogurt. Then she's got to have a full
pantry, right? True.
You know, before we get to the the culminating scene, I think
we ought to talk more about Harry because obviously the lie
(18:43):
cannot be sustained throughout the party.
Right, hold on, so Joy gets a present for Charlotte and it's
fucking dog treats. Like homeopathic dog treats or
something. CBD Charlotte treats.
CBD it's not it's her birthday. Why are you getting her dog
treats? Get it something for her, but.
Granted, Krista to be fair, she's never met her treats for
Christmas. How long have you known me?
(19:04):
A while. OK, it's a little different.
But also, the only thing that Joy knows about Charlotte is she
has a job with cancer. Well, I'm sure she knows more
than that, but in any case, she realizes that Miranda says
something to her like, you know,we're not supposed to know.
I'm not supposed to know. So Joy goes and grabs the gift
as Charlotte's opening it. And now everyone's like, I don't
know. I don't.
How does how does this happen inthis one scene where he brings
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everybody into the kitchen? So it's not directly tied to the
gift take back. But, yeah, Joy, I mean, this is
a scene that actually succeeds. I think it's legitimately very
funny. Yeah.
Joy basically, like, snatches the gift out of Charlotte's
hand. And so it's like, my mistake,
got you the wrong gift. I'm going to a party tomorrow.
I mixed them up. Charlotte takes it in stride.
(19:49):
And then, yeah, unrelated, but there's some other inciting
event that basically makes Harrysay, all right, everybody in the
kitchen. I think it's just like we see
the we see all the women in the same frame for the first time in
the party. Yes, but you know who wasn't
there? Seema true they're getting rid
of that. Character excluding her I.
Don't I have a feeling they're getting rid of that character,
which makes me very, very sad. But he brings everybody into the
(20:12):
kitchen and he tells them, hey, I have prostate cancer.
We caught it very early. Everything's going to be fine.
I'm getting surgery next week. And he says I was, it was very
unfair of me to put this on Charlotte.
I wouldn't let her tell anybody.And that was really unfair of
me. And I'm very sorry.
And that's our guy. And that's our guy, that's our
guy, that's our Harry. That's who we've always loved.
(20:34):
Exactly. And that's why Harry can still
get it. That's why I can Harry Golden
black and still get it. Absolutely.
So now the piece there is assaults as you as they say.
So Carrie's in the kitchen cleaning up after cleaning up
after the party. I'm finger quoting because if if
you tell me she didn't hire people to clean right, she's
(20:54):
clean. She's cleaning stuff off the off
the countertop and Miranda's eating a piece of cake, I guess
at that minuscule kitchen table.I don't I don't understand.
I don't understand. I.
Love seeing Miranda eating cake.And obviously it's a birthday
party so there was cake, right? But didn't it remind you of that
old episode when Miranda can't stop eating cake and she throws
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it in the trash and pours dish stuff on it?
Yes. So Miranda, earlier in the night
at the party, catches Carrie andDuncan, I guess, talking, and
she takes a sip of his whatever,whiskey or bourbon or whatever.
Fucking that's a little familiar, no?
Oh, the cake, the cake when she sees Aiden for the first time
after all those years, remember,they were outside and he's like,
(21:41):
oh, now you want the cake? And she says, I never, I never
didn't want the cake, right? Listen, this is the stuff that I
love. Yeah, who even knows if the
writers are like. Are aware of it but right we are
so Miranda's eating the cake andCarrie's cleaning and Miranda
goes you know so you and Duncan you had a little moment earlier
(22:02):
and you. Would think Carrie's like fuck
you basically when literally theweek before, but Aiden was like,
so we're monogamous, right? And Carrie was like fuck you,
that's her gal. They're reasonable.
Oh my God. He turns to Miranda and she's
like, what does that mean? Miranda's like, right?
Nothing like Miranda's literallyfreezing in place because she's
(22:25):
going Oh no, right. I really fucked up.
I really. Except she did it.
She was making conversation. Right, right.
She's making conversation and she's saying, well, I'm in a
relationship, you know, like, what are you trying to say?
I'm in a relationship. And when she drops this line
that I sent me through the roof of the 20 years, uh huh.
(22:50):
Repeat it. What did she say?
I've been with Aiden for 20 years.
Bitch, what the fuck? Right.
Absolutely you have not. And, and it's a it's a little
complicated. And Miranda just says the quiet
part out loud. She's like, it just seems so
hard. Yeah, seems.
Like you're working really hard.Right.
Yeah, which she is. Which she is, yeah, and she
(23:12):
doesn't want to admit it, but I also want to point out. 20.
Years, 20 years get out of here 3 tops and you weren't even like
together for fucking 15 of them.Shut up.
So again in this episode, you ever notice and I'm trying to
piece it. It feels like in every episode,
something breaks the window, thealarm system, the the balloon
(23:36):
pops the the the other window inAiden's house, right?
It feels like something's alwaysbreaking.
OK, so I'm wondering what that what that like the popping of
the balloon. I just didn't.
I didn't understand why. But Carrie gets really upset at
Miranda, like snaps at her, similar to when she catches
Miranda and Shay finger banging in her kitchen and she's like,
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what are you doing? What are you doing?
You know, in my kitchen you're married.
For legit like 20 years. Like actually 20.
Years, right? This bitch.
This bitch. But obviously she's sensitive
about it because she knows Miranda is right.
Right. It's very, very clear she's
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pulling a Gia here. She's pulling this episode is
hypocrisy. I would, yeah.
Yeah, I would. I would say so, Yeah, yes, Harry
with the personal shopper and Gia with Anthony and OK, all
right, good for you. Good on you.
The hypocrisy of the blind spots, the way the.
Yeah, the blind spots, I guess. Yeah, and as far as that balloon
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popping, don't you think it's a fairly obvious metaphor for, oh,
the bubbles about to? Burst, yes.
Miranda's about to say the unacknowledged thing.
Right, right. Finally, someone's going to
well, Anthony said in the beginning of the season.
True. And Carrie didn't like it,
right? What the fuck out?
Then she did Well, she didn't flip out.
She just. Well, for her.
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Yeah, she got bothered. She she was bothered by it,
right. And.
Weird. Fucking weird.
Right. And she's like, well, you know,
the woman, Miranda says. The woman didn't know what she
got herself into. And Carrie's like, how did you
know? That's the line of my book.
See, I really thought they were going to set that up for
someone's going to steal it. That would have been better.
Much better. Oh, he was just lying here and I
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read it and she's like that. That's I wrote that months ago.
It's from the 1800s. I I didn't know that.
I didn't know that I didn't get that far.
And Miranda's just Oh my God, I'm how do I how do I'm just
trying to calm Carrie down and Carrie's just being such a bitch
to Miranda. When girl, how much time has
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Miranda invested and listening to you?
Right? How much time and and I don't
like friends like that, right where you think it's it's OK to
say something and then they snapat you or they act like really
pissed off at something you justsaid when you were just having a
similar conversation recently. You're like, wait a minute.
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I thought this was a safe topic.I thought we could talk about
this. Right.
I mean truly, I feel like if you're friends with somebody
like you ought to be able to talk about anything, you may
have to consider the timing. Yes, you have to read the room.
Yeah. Which, I don't know, I thought
maybe Miranda did I? Didn't think Miranda thought she
did. I think we all thought Miranda
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Yeah was doing a fun little party debrief.
Right, Which is what we do as friends, right?
We get together, we talk. This is what happened.
What about this? Did you see that she was just
doing what friends do and carry?Just like the nails, The claws
came out. Have you heard the the the
theory that the show Seinfeld only works in the knees?
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Because had those characters hadcell phones, none of the funny
misunderstandings would have happened?
Have you heard that? No, but it's.
True, Absolutely true. So similarly, I'm going to
observe about this, at least this season of And just like
that, none of these friendships would have any tension if these
women had more time for their friendships because we used to
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see them in, you know, Sex in the City.
We used to see them at the dinerall the time.
Carrie would have shared like ohAiden broke my window last week
and then by the way got up before I did and left me a post
it. Right, I guess we.
Forgot to talk about. We did forget to talk about
that. He left her a fucking post it.
Like they would have had that conversation right and then this
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scene right where Carrie is being shitty to Miranda for
saying the quiet part out loud. We could have seen Miranda
saying, girl, you literally justtold Aiden you weren't going to
be a monogamist. So why?
Like, why are you upset that I'mobserving that you and Duncan
have chemistry, right? But we know that they haven't
had that conversation about Carrie talking to Aiden because
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we see that everybody is busy with their, you know, their kids
and their families. Right.
I can't understand how not one of them if they had known, why
wouldn't they be like he what didn't he?
Wasn't this the same guy who andnow he's doing it to you because
he he hates you. He I hate you.
This has been 1 long fucking grift along con to get back at
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you for cheating on him. And here's the best part next
week that I was watching the previews.
What does he do? Let's invite Duncan to dinner
right? Reminiscent of what the episode?
Big coming of that cabin being. Big coming of that cabin, right?
Do we like Duncan? I don't know how we feel about
Duncan I. Liked him for Sema honestly, but
yeah I don't like him for Carriebecause it's it's not a
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relationship of equals. Yeah, but also.
Sorry. It's yeah, but also we didn't
talk about Sema hooking up with the gardener.
Yeah, it's snooze. Just I.
Really am mad because I felt like this character kind of had
promise and then you just did nothing with him and well, they.
Threw him at SEMA. They threw him at Sema and I
don't know, seem is obviously isgoing to be really, really
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snotty and not want to date a gardener and we'll probably find
out he's loaded. Watch my prediction.
We're gonna. I mean, he probably is, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
He's got his own landscaping company.
Well, but he also said he sold arecord store, right?
Yeah. So I guarantee we're going to
find out he's loaded. Yeah.
For. Sure.
That's my prediction. There was really, I felt like
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this was just a filler episode. There was really no, like I
said, it just, it wasn't very linear.
It just, it sort of, it was kindof like the aftermath of last
week's episode. And yet it was so much more
pleasant to watch, I thought. I mean, first of all we had
Miranda being just a delight theentire time, Harry got his
redemption arc, Lily finally gotdumped, and then Rock was the
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voice of reason. Right, get up.
As rock always is. Right.
Get up. It's her birthday.
You're going. Stop being so selfish.
Yeah, because Lily really was being a brat.
I'm not going to go. You're going.
You're going. Ungrateful little snot.
She went out in a snowstorm to get you condoms.
Right, Because you couldn't do it.
OK, Yeah. Well, you know, that's how
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teenagers are. Yeah.
Carrie has no excuse to be acting this way.
She's the Carrie we have known and loved.
And that's kind of like, I feel like the writers are rage
baiting us a little bit. Like they know that the public
opinion has turned on Carrie, right?
And so I think they're just giving us what we think we want.
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Right, I I really think that they have stopped trying to
write a linear story. I do it just this I don't this
this doesn't like seem has just been like non exist.
Throwing anything at a wall to see what's.
There really are. They really are.
It's it's it's like they didn't think through the season before
they started writing it. Like they've been writing it as
they go. Mm.
Hmm. Right, that's how it seems.
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Did you see last week the writers were gaslighting
everybody about the continuity era error with them?
What did they say? What was they were like?
Oh no, Lisa's dad didn't. Didn't die twice when it got
mentioned before. That was her stepfather.
Uh huh. Uh huh, Uh huh.
Sure, Jan. Then why didn't you say that?
Why didn't you say stepfather? Right.
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To say that like that is such a big fuck up, but they did it.
The same thing happened with Harry.
Remember Harry says something. Remember when he first talks to
Charlotte and he's talking aboutI promised my mother before she
died? And then in the like second
episode, second season or first season, he mentions his mother
died the year before or something.
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It happened with Harry too. These are just bad writers.
Like how does this happen twice right?
I don't understand I. Can see how it happens because
so much of the show is focused on the present.
Like we really don't get a lot of back story about any of these
characters. Bro, every single writer on that
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series should have been requiredto watch every single episode of
Sex in the City. Everyone.
I believe they probably did. Yeah, 20 years ago.
Well, maybe so. In any case, yeah, I thought it
was a fun episode. I guess I got what I wanted in
that. Yeah, Carrie got even more
hateable. Thank you, I guess.
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We're at the Wait Podcast and just like that recap, Sarah.
Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
If we ever questioned whether ornot Carrie was like, awful, I
don't think there's any questionafter this episode.
There's really not. I'm so glad you're on the same
page with me here, but. I am very much on the same page
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with you on this one. So for people who I don't know
if you watched it, didn't watch it, obviously watch it.
Yeah, there's probably going to be some spoilers here.
If you, you know, you want to watch the episode first before
you listen, that's fine. I would stop here.
But what I will say is it startswith I believe they're in
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Anthony's Bread fellas, hot fellas, whatever the fuck it's
called. Yeah, hot fellas.
And he's waiting for Giuseppe's mother to arrive from Rome.
And she's played by Patti Lupone.
Now. I like Patti Lupone.
Unfortunate. Well, she, she had a big misstep
a couple of weeks ago in an interview she did with The New
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Yorker. Where?
She went after. She did and she said them about
two black actresses, theatre actresses like Audra McDonald,
who was like the legend on Broadway.
And she apologized. She admitted that her comments
were completely inappropriate. And so OK, she she said she was
wrong. She didn't dig her heels in, but
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she plays the mother. So she comes in and she's lovely
to everybody, but she doesn't like Anthony, right?
Which is very clear. And we figure out why a little
bit later. But in any case, they're all
sitting there talking and Charlotte's talking about how
she's stretched really thin and she has so much on her plate.
And Miranda's like, why? What's going on?
And Charlotte, is everything OK,Right.
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And Charlotte's Moranda's like, is everything OK?
And Charlotte was like, oh, yeah, everything's fine.
You know, how her voice goes arereally high.
And she looks at Carrie. And it what it reminded me of is
the the episode where Miranda find outs, finds out she's
pregnant and Charlotte is talking about babies and how she
can't get pregnant. Now.
I know it's me. I know it's me.
Everybody's getting pregnant butme and and Carrie and Miranda
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are exchanging glances and Charlotte's like, what the F?
What's with the eyes? And Miranda tells her she's
pregnant and Charlotte gets up and she leaves.
And Samantha goes, oh, no, no, I'm I'm confusing that with
another one. That was a different episode
where Charlotte gets up and leave and Miranda says, and
she's never coming back. But it wasn't this episode.
That's what that's what this andjust like that reminded me of.
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So they changed the subject. Carrie and Miranda are walking
home and Carrie says, you know, I really Charlotte's birthday's
coming up. I really want to throw her a big
party and I want it to be fun. And she needs something fun.
And Miranda is sensing something's up, but she's
saying, what's going on? Why is her why is her plate so
full? Is are the kids OK?
And Carrie. Oh, no, the kids are fine.
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And Carrie's making it very clear.
Look, I know what it is, but youdon't know what it is.
And of course, Miranda's going to be like, well, is it Harry?
No, everything. No, no, no, it's not Harry.
And then Carrie comes up with this lie about the Charlotte's
dog, Richard Burton, having an incurable tumor, having cancer,
and he's dying. So this becomes sort of a
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running gag throughout the episode.
So Carrie has the party at her place Miranda wanted.
To do it, this is the first thing that Carrie did that
pissed me off by. The way well, but to me it made
sense. Why wouldn't you?
Why would you want to have it atMiranda's Teeny like the place
is crowded. Because Miranda's place isn't
teeny. Well, compared to Carrie's.
Right. Everyone's house is small
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compared to Carrie's, right? But that's the thing, Carrie.
Like, we get it, You're the girlwith the most cake, OK, we get
it. Meanwhile, Miranda has an
apartment that she's actually worked for, and she's excited,
too. Wait a minute.
Hold on. I have a house for you.
Wait a minute. That reminds me of Charlotte.
Oh, I earned that apartment. Was she talking about Trey?
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Oh, I earned that. Apartment.
I mean, Charlotte didn't either,but but she's.
Yeah, whatever. Yeah, whatever, whatever.
So, yeah. Like, just let Miranda have the
house warming party. I mean, later they fill the
house in a way that that like, in retrospect, it makes sense to
have it at Carries, but why? Like we had no reason to believe
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that many people were going to show up because as far as we've
known for the last 30 years, allthese women have 3 friends.
Right, plus, but right. But Charlotte has a ton of
friends from school, right? She has a ton of people from
school. It's great whatever they have
the party at Carrie's place now the other part of the episode,
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we're kind of jumping around here because I feel like the
episode really jumped around. I didn't feel that it was very
linear. They so they but we'll stay
we'll stay linear. So they have the party at
Carrie's place and she invites the neighbor downstairs because
hey, there's going to be a lot of noise.
Why don't you come? Which right.
It's such an inviting invitationCarrie and he he agrees.
(05:07):
Now she has read his the 1st chapter of his book and she this
just thinks it's brilliant. So she gives him her first
chapter and she's very, very worried.
It's going to be terrible, terrible, terrible.
He. Yes, we were part of it.
The woman wondered what did she get herself into?
Right. And he ends up reading it and
telling her that it's brilliant,right.
(05:29):
So now we know he wants to sleepwith her, tells her it's
brilliant. No, Carrie must have put it down
or the, or the neighbor maybe put it down.
I don't know. Somebody brought it upstairs.
It was on the table. Miranda had to move it for the
caterers and she started to readit.
And this is important because we'll get to why this is
important. They cut to Charlotte being in
Nordstrom, I don't know, some really expensive department
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store. And she sees Harry and Harry is
with this other woman. And of course, Charlotte starts
to panic and wonder what's goingon.
And it turns out that Harry has been using a personal shopper to
buy all of Charlotte's gifts for, I don't know, probably
forever, right? And here's the thing.
So Harry and Charlotte and this woman, they're talking.
And Charlotte says, you know, Harry, you know, what are you?
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What are you doing up? You know, don't you think you
should be home and resting? And the personal shopper says,
that's what I told him. But you know, he's just, he's
just so brave, making it very clear to Charlotte, fucking
Harry told the personal shopper.Meanwhile, Charlotte can't tell
anyone, right? But he tells the personal
shopper. Because, as usual, men will look
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for free therapy and emotional labor wherever they go.
They will, but also I, I view this episode as Harry's
redemption episode because I think it's very understandable
how he would end up confiding inthis person that he's known for,
you know, 20 plus years, but still is like unequipped.
Removed. Yes, it is.
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It is easier to talk about things with people who aren't
directly involved with your life, right?
Because you don't see them all the time.
They're not going to be asking alot of questions.
They're not going to be staring at you and looking at you with
pity. And they're they're not going to
be doing all of that. Right.
And I think that's ultimately why Charlotte takes this pretty
well. Yes, yes she does.
Well, was she? Because she seems a little.
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She seems pretty pissed to me. She's she seems a little pissed,
but I I still think she takes itpretty well.
So matter of opinion. Now remember, Miranda believes
that Richard Burton is dying, and so she invites Joy to this
party. But she tells.
Joy in this episode. But she right this now, OK, This
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Miranda, I don't know, listen. I love this Miranda.
So she tells Joy she was a woman, that she's dating, that
Charlotte's dog is dying and Joyis naturally because she has
dogs. Oh my God, I could not imagine
any dog owner is immediately going to be empathetic and just
gutted on the behalf of another dog owner.
Well, let's not forget Miranda had a cat too for many years, so
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she's it's not like she doesn't get it at all.
Well, she also had Scout. Remember, she didn't have Scout.
Right. So she did have pets.
She did understand. Yeah.
And so she invites Joy to this party.
Joy comes to the party. Now Miranda wants to do.
She brings this karaoke machine.She bought it.
She bought it and I just didn't understand what about this
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apartment or this party, says karaoke fun.
I just I because karaoke has gotto be fun.
Right. And Miranda shows up with all
these balloons and really prettyballoons, by the way, really
pretty colored balloons. And the karaoke machine.
And impeccable jumpsuit. Impeccable jumpsuit and Carrie.
Carrie apparently had no decorations for this party.
Right. She's got no furniture, she's
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got no decorations. She's the furniture.
She she brought in all the chairs.
She she did she like brought in furniture.
She whatever rented it. Now Miranda is all about the
fun. And Carrie, I want to have this
party at my place, not a stitch of decorations.
Decoration, right, for this party.
No, nothing, nothing, right? Because like you said, carries
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only purpose. Well, it was bigger.
But I also think, right, like Carrie, Carrie for so long was
the poor one of the group, and now she's the richest one.
And she really doesn't do anything to hide that.
She is constantly rubbing it in people's faces.
Yeah, she really wants us to know.
Right. She really wants us to know.
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So all these people that we didn't even know existed show up
and she is, you know, the, the party's going well, I guess
Miranda wants to do karaoke. And the only person interested
is Lisa and Herbert's oldest son, who I think they're trying
to imply might be gay or middle son, but who they're might be
trying to imply is gay. I'm not sure but I'm I'm
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obsessed with this plot line. Right, because he just keeps
singing show tunes. This is another way that Carrie
pissed me off this episode, right?
Because the first of all, Miranda bought a karaoke
machine. You're welcome, right?
Let's back up a second for to when Joy walks in and kisses
Miranda and Carrie flinches. Yeah, yeah.
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What the fuck? Right, probably because right,
go ahead. And then right again.
Miranda bought a karaoke machine.
You're fucking welcome. She brought balloons.
You're welcome. I'm pretty sure Miranda
organized the cake. I think so.
Unclear. But either way, you're welcome,
Carrie, Right? Right.
And then of course, people use the karaoke machine.
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And then Duncan shows up and Carrie decides she's she's above
this party. Isn't this party lame?
Isn't it lame how this child canenjoy things?
Fuck you. Right, right.
Carrie So watching this episode and she.
God, when she's telling him about the party, when she first
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invites him, well, I, you know, there's something about, you
know, there's karaoke and he goes, I love karaoke, right,
Right. And does she not suddenly, does
she not? But did she not suddenly change?
She did. Right, change her approach,
because Carrie's entire identityrevolves her on is dependent on
whatever man is in her orbit and.
It was such a waste honestly. Like this episode could have
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been actually fun because we know SJP can sing.
Right. We know.
We know. Patti Lupone can sing.
You had Patti Lupone. She's right there.
She's right there. Oh my God.
But anyway, she shows up, thank God.
Who does? Bitsy.
Bitsy von Muffling, love, love, love.
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I'm so glad they work her into these episodes.
But I loved the line from Patti Lupone.
Of course, when they're saying, oh, you didn't like the karaoke
and she goes too much singing for my liking, which is
obviously like a wink to the audience.
Like this is Patti fucking Lupone, who is one of our
greatest, like, theater singers.She's a singer, right?
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So I love that. But again, Patti Lupone was
right there. She couldn't sing.
Evita. Don't cry for me, Argentina.
Nothing. Nothing.
Right. Come on.
She's right. There, to me it was so striking
how much Carrie and Lily were behaving simplerly this episode.
I don't. Think that's a coincidence?
Yeah, No, can't, right. And I partly.
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Was pouting because her boyfriend dumped her.
Thank God. Thank God, but now I'm right on
the wall. Yes, But now that I'm thinking
of the karaoke, I wonder if the whole purpose of the karaoke
machine was because Patti Luponewas going to be there and they
wanted to try to get her to singand she was like, go fuck
yourself because she is like that.
She was like, Nah, people pay mea lot of money to do that.
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Well, I don't know. I mean I would imagine they paid
her well for the episode but whoknows.
But to sing Patti Lupone, to sing, Yeah, you're paying.
Act as you should. As you should.
It's Patti fucking Lupone, right?
Like her or don't like her. It's still Patti Lupone.
She puts butts in the seat. Sarah.
She does. She does so.
Speaking of Patti Lupone, she and Carrie go to lunch, which is
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that's. Fucking weird too, right?
Right. Very weird.
And now Patti Lupone, the character Gia.
And I love, I just love that Italian name.
Who's from Buffalo. I'm trying to figure out the
accent. She's from Buffalo, but she
lives in Rome. I don't, I don't know.
I don't know if she's being pretentious, I don't know.
I think so. She's a therapist.
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Or she just, who knows, maybe she just could have grown up
around Italians, around the accent.
I don't know. She's a therapist.
And she's talking about how Giuseppe's father was much, much
older than her. So now we're starting to see why
she doesn't like Anthony, right?Because.
The reason? To me, the reason makes
absolutely no sense. Well, probably the husband left
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her, I thought. She said that he died.
Did he die well at one point? I'd have I'd you know, I'd have
to go back and and verify. Yeah, I would have to go back
and verify as well. I'm not quite sure.
But in any case, I think the reason she doesn't like Anthony
is because the dynamic is repeating itself.
But she also says that he had this man, had all these children
that didn't like her. Right.
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And Carrie says that she's in a similar situation.
Oh, you're the enemy too. Gia says, well, not really.
I mean, no. Well, with one of them, I guess
I am. And she says, do you have any
advice for me? And Gia says do not stop being
yourself. Be exactly who you are, which,
unfortunately for Carrie, is terrible and.
Yeah, that's not great advice. It's it's it's not great, but
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she's right and and she is rightand it's not gonna Yeah.
Don't pretend to be somebody that you're not and then
disinherit them right after you die and leave them wondering
you're the rest of the if you ever really love them or I'm
just projecting. I don't know.
That might have happened to me. But she's saying to Carrie, be
exactly who you are. Don't don't pretend to be
somebody else. And great.
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So they have this lunch. Whatever.
Anthony finally by the end of the party, stands up to this
bitch and I don't know, she sayssomething to him, something
snotty. He's like, I don't know Gia.
I don't know what he says something really, really snotty,
but he calls her Gia. Do you remember what he said to
her? I don't, but I think he manages
to mention Buffalo as well, which I appreciate it.
(15:08):
Right? Like he doesn't come out and
say, I don't know Gia from Buffalo, but that was the
effect. Right.
And I think that's supposed to be like, I think she's supposed
to respect him for that, as she should, because he should have,
he should have stood up to her. But I have a feeling she's
coming back. I think that's why they said,
oh, I'm going to stay a week. So she's probably going to be in
another episode, I'm going to assume.
It sounds like yeah. Yeah, I hope so.
(15:30):
But but also, why would that character decide to stay other
than to torment Anthony? It's weird.
Well, to be with her son. Yeah, but it was the timing is
is SUS maybe. Yeah, maybe I I just think that
she feels like Anthony is maybe taking advantage of her much,
much, much younger son. He's like 24.
(15:51):
Yeah. Maybe 25.
Anthony is twice his age. The fact that they're in it, did
he say they're engaged to my future mother-in-law?
Are you serious? Yeah.
Please, if this were a woman, ifGiuseppe were a woman, we would
be all the ick. All the ick.
That's true. I mean, I think it's, I think
what has kept the ick at Bay is just that Mario Canton looks
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great. Right, he does.
He does. He's not aging, right?
I'm not going to say he's aging backwards, but he looks great.
And also it just, you know, it'snot it's not a complicated
situation. There are no kids involved.
I mean, if anything, you could equally argue that Giuseppe is
taking advantage of Anthony. I don't think it's the case that
either of them is actually taking advantage, right?
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No. But from the outside you you
could argue either side. Correct.
So now we get to the the real, the real, the meaty, the meaty
part of the episode. Let's talk about what Patti
Lupone's character, Gia says. She says something like, oh, I
just think it's desperate and gross when someone that old
pursues someone that much younger, right?
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And that, I think, is what sets.I think that's what sets Anthony
off as it should and as it would.
But what are you talking about, Gia?
But this is what I'm saying. I think that her reason for not
liking Anthony has to do with her ex-husband or her former
husband. That would make sense if we
hadn't just seen her at lunch with Carrie gushing about this
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man. Was she?
Well, yeah, in the beginning, but I think she.
But in the beginning. In the beginning, right.
But. And also, it could very well be
that what she's afraid of is you're twice his age.
You're gonna die in 10 years. What's gonna happen to him?
I mean, fair, right? But then I don't, you know,
there's like a nicer way of experts, right Concern.
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Right. But she's, as we all know, most
therapists are way more fucked up than your average person.
And so she's probably working through her own stuff.
She's projecting, she's projecting her stuff onto
Anthony. We, we get it, Gia from Buffalo,
right. So we cut to, we get to the end
of the party. And I love the dress that Carrie
was wearing. Carrie's cleaning the kitchen in
that dress. Right.
I mean, kind of. She's wiping the counters.
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Did it not take her forever to wipe that fucking counter?
It's like she's never done it before.
Well. Kristen, her counter's so big,
you know, because her house is so big.
Remember how big our house? Is right, but that kitchen looks
like it was. It does.
It looks like it hasn't been updated.
Like girl, what are you talking?What are those burners?
What are those burners on the stove?
Where is your electric stove? What?
What? Well, she doesn't.
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I mean, why would she update thekitchen?
She uses her because she doesn'tuse it.
Right. The only time she uses it is
when Miranda wants a yogurt. Then she's got to have a full
pantry, right? True.
You know, before we get to the the culminating scene, I think
we ought to talk more about Harry because obviously the lie
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cannot be sustained throughout the party.
Right, hold on, so Joy gets a present for Charlotte and it's
fucking dog treats. Like homeopathic dog treats or
something. CBD Charlotte treats.
CBD it's not it's her birthday. Why are you getting her dog
treats? Get it something for her, but.
Granted, Krista to be fair, she's never met her treats for
Christmas. How long have you known me?
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A while. OK, it's a little different.
But also, the only thing that Joy knows about Charlotte is she
has a job with cancer. Well, I'm sure she knows more
than that, but in any case, she realizes that Miranda says
something to her like, you know,we're not supposed to know.
I'm not supposed to know. So Joy goes and grabs the gift
as Charlotte's opening it. And now everyone's like, I don't
know. I don't.
How does how does this happen inthis one scene where he brings
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everybody into the kitchen? So it's not directly tied to the
gift take back. But, yeah, Joy, I mean, this is
a scene that actually succeeds. I think it's legitimately very
funny. Yeah.
Joy basically, like, snatches the gift out of Charlotte's
hand. And so it's like, my mistake,
got you the wrong gift. I'm going to a party tomorrow.
I mixed them up. Charlotte takes it in stride.
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And then, yeah, unrelated, but there's some other inciting
event that basically makes Harrysay, all right, everybody in the
kitchen. I think it's just like we see
the we see all the women in the same frame for the first time in
the party. Yes, but you know who wasn't
there? Seema true they're getting rid
of that. Character excluding her I.
Don't I have a feeling they're getting rid of that character,
which makes me very, very sad. But he brings everybody into the
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kitchen and he tells them, hey, I have prostate cancer.
We caught it very early. Everything's going to be fine.
I'm getting surgery next week. And he says I was, it was very
unfair of me to put this on Charlotte.
I wouldn't let her tell anybody.And that was really unfair of
me. And I'm very sorry.
And that's our guy. And that's our guy, that's our
guy, that's our Harry. That's who we've always loved.
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Exactly. And that's why Harry can still
get it. That's why I can Harry Golden
black and still get it. Absolutely.
So now the piece there is assaults as you as they say.
So Carrie's in the kitchen cleaning up after cleaning up
after the party. I'm finger quoting because if if
you tell me she didn't hire people to clean right, she's
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clean. She's cleaning stuff off the off
the countertop and Miranda's eating a piece of cake, I guess
at that minuscule kitchen table.I don't I don't understand.
I don't understand. I.
Love seeing Miranda eating cake.And obviously it's a birthday
party so there was cake, right? But didn't it remind you of that
old episode when Miranda can't stop eating cake and she throws
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it in the trash and pours dish stuff on it?
Yes. So Miranda, earlier in the night
at the party, catches Carrie andDuncan, I guess, talking, and
she takes a sip of his whatever,whiskey or bourbon or whatever.
Fucking that's a little familiar, no?
Oh, the cake, the cake when she sees Aiden for the first time
after all those years, remember,they were outside and he's like,
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oh, now you want the cake? And she says, I never, I never
didn't want the cake, right? Listen, this is the stuff that I
love. Yeah, who even knows if the
writers are like. Are aware of it but right we are
so Miranda's eating the cake andCarrie's cleaning and Miranda
goes you know so you and Duncan you had a little moment earlier
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and you. Would think Carrie's like fuck
you basically when literally theweek before, but Aiden was like,
so we're monogamous, right? And Carrie was like fuck you,
that's her gal. They're reasonable.
Oh my God. He turns to Miranda and she's
like, what does that mean? Miranda's like, right?
Nothing like Miranda's literallyfreezing in place because she's
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going Oh no, right. I really fucked up.
I really. Except she did it.
She was making conversation. Right, right.
She's making conversation and she's saying, well, I'm in a
relationship, you know, like, what are you trying to say?
I'm in a relationship. And when she drops this line
that I sent me through the roof of the 20 years, uh huh.
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Repeat it. What did she say?
I've been with Aiden for 20 years.
Bitch, what the fuck? Right.
Absolutely you have not. And, and it's a it's a little
complicated. And Miranda just says the quiet
part out loud. She's like, it just seems so
hard. Yeah, seems.
Like you're working really hard.Right.
Yeah, which she is. Which she is, yeah, and she
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doesn't want to admit it, but I also want to point out. 20.
Years, 20 years get out of here 3 tops and you weren't even like
together for fucking 15 of them.Shut up.
So again in this episode, you ever notice and I'm trying to
piece it. It feels like in every episode,
something breaks the window, thealarm system, the the balloon
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pops the the the other window inAiden's house, right?
It feels like something's alwaysbreaking.
OK, so I'm wondering what that what that like the popping of
the balloon. I just didn't.
I didn't understand why. But Carrie gets really upset at
Miranda, like snaps at her, similar to when she catches
Miranda and Shay finger banging in her kitchen and she's like,
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what are you doing? What are you doing?
You know, in my kitchen you're married.
For legit like 20 years. Like actually 20.
Years, right? This bitch.
This bitch. But obviously she's sensitive
about it because she knows Miranda is right.
Right. It's very, very clear she's
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pulling a Gia here. She's pulling this episode is
hypocrisy. I would, yeah.
Yeah, I would. I would say so, Yeah, yes, Harry
with the personal shopper and Gia with Anthony and OK, all
right, good for you. Good on you.
The hypocrisy of the blind spots, the way the.
Yeah, the blind spots, I guess. Yeah, and as far as that balloon
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popping, don't you think it's a fairly obvious metaphor for, oh,
the bubbles about to? Burst, yes.
Miranda's about to say the unacknowledged thing.
Right, right. Finally, someone's going to
well, Anthony said in the beginning of the season.
True. And Carrie didn't like it,
right? What the fuck out?
Then she did Well, she didn't flip out.
She just. Well, for her.
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Yeah, she got bothered. She she was bothered by it,
right. And.
Weird. Fucking weird.
Right. And she's like, well, you know,
the woman, Miranda says. The woman didn't know what she
got herself into. And Carrie's like, how did you
know? That's the line of my book.
See, I really thought they were going to set that up for
someone's going to steal it. That would have been better.
Much better. Oh, he was just lying here and I
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read it and she's like that. That's I wrote that months ago.
It's from the 1800s. I I didn't know that.
I didn't know that I didn't get that far.
And Miranda's just Oh my God, I'm how do I how do I'm just
trying to calm Carrie down and Carrie's just being such a bitch
to Miranda. When girl, how much time has
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Miranda invested and listening to you?
Right? How much time and and I don't
like friends like that, right where you think it's it's OK to
say something and then they snapat you or they act like really
pissed off at something you justsaid when you were just having a
similar conversation recently. You're like, wait a minute.
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I thought this was a safe topic.I thought we could talk about
this. Right.
I mean truly, I feel like if you're friends with somebody
like you ought to be able to talk about anything, you may
have to consider the timing. Yes, you have to read the room.
Yeah. Which, I don't know, I thought
maybe Miranda did I? Didn't think Miranda thought she
did. I think we all thought Miranda
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Yeah was doing a fun little party debrief.
Right, Which is what we do as friends, right?
We get together, we talk. This is what happened.
What about this? Did you see that she was just
doing what friends do and carry?Just like the nails, The claws
came out. Have you heard the the the
theory that the show Seinfeld only works in the knees?
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Because had those characters hadcell phones, none of the funny
misunderstandings would have happened?
Have you heard that? No, but it's.
True, Absolutely true. So similarly, I'm going to
observe about this, at least this season of And just like
that, none of these friendships would have any tension if these
women had more time for their friendships because we used to
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see them in, you know, Sex in the City.
We used to see them at the dinerall the time.
Carrie would have shared like ohAiden broke my window last week
and then by the way got up before I did and left me a post
it. Right, I guess we.
Forgot to talk about. We did forget to talk about
that. He left her a fucking post it.
Like they would have had that conversation right and then this
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scene right where Carrie is being shitty to Miranda for
saying the quiet part out loud. We could have seen Miranda
saying, girl, you literally justtold Aiden you weren't going to
be a monogamist. So why?
Like, why are you upset that I'mobserving that you and Duncan
have chemistry, right? But we know that they haven't
had that conversation about Carrie talking to Aiden because
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we see that everybody is busy with their, you know, their kids
and their families. Right.
I can't understand how not one of them if they had known, why
wouldn't they be like he what didn't he?
Wasn't this the same guy who andnow he's doing it to you because
he he hates you. He I hate you.
This has been 1 long fucking grift along con to get back at
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you for cheating on him. And here's the best part next
week that I was watching the previews.
What does he do? Let's invite Duncan to dinner
right? Reminiscent of what the episode?
Big coming of that cabin being. Big coming of that cabin, right?
Do we like Duncan? I don't know how we feel about
Duncan I. Liked him for Sema honestly, but
yeah I don't like him for Carriebecause it's it's not a
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relationship of equals. Yeah, but also.
Sorry. It's yeah, but also we didn't
talk about Sema hooking up with the gardener.
Yeah, it's snooze. Just I.
Really am mad because I felt like this character kind of had
promise and then you just did nothing with him and well, they.
Threw him at SEMA. They threw him at Sema and I
don't know, seem is obviously isgoing to be really, really
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snotty and not want to date a gardener and we'll probably find
out he's loaded. Watch my prediction.
We're gonna. I mean, he probably is, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
He's got his own landscaping company.
Well, but he also said he sold arecord store, right?
Yeah. So I guarantee we're going to
find out he's loaded. Yeah.
For. Sure.
That's my prediction. There was really, I felt like
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this was just a filler episode. There was really no, like I
said, it just, it wasn't very linear.
It just, it sort of, it was kindof like the aftermath of last
week's episode. And yet it was so much more
pleasant to watch, I thought. I mean, first of all we had
Miranda being just a delight theentire time, Harry got his
redemption arc, Lily finally gotdumped, and then Rock was the
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voice of reason. Right, get up.
As rock always is. Right.
Get up. It's her birthday.
You're going. Stop being so selfish.
Yeah, because Lily really was being a brat.
I'm not going to go. You're going.
You're going. Ungrateful little snot.
She went out in a snowstorm to get you condoms.
Right, Because you couldn't do it.
OK, Yeah. Well, you know, that's how
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teenagers are. Yeah.
Carrie has no excuse to be acting this way.
She's the Carrie we have known and loved.
And that's kind of like, I feel like the writers are rage
baiting us a little bit. Like they know that the public
opinion has turned on Carrie, right?
And so I think they're just giving us what we think we want.
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Right, I I really think that they have stopped trying to
write a linear story. I do it just this I don't this
this doesn't like seem has just been like non exist.
Throwing anything at a wall to see what's.
There really are. They really are.
It's it's it's like they didn't think through the season before
they started writing it. Like they've been writing it as
they go. Mm.
Hmm. Right, that's how it seems.
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Did you see last week the writers were gaslighting
everybody about the continuity era error with them?
What did they say? What was they were like?
Oh no, Lisa's dad didn't. Didn't die twice when it got
mentioned before. That was her stepfather.
Uh huh. Uh huh, Uh huh.
Sure, Jan. Then why didn't you say that?
Why didn't you say stepfather? Right.
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To say that like that is such a big fuck up, but they did it.
The same thing happened with Harry.
Remember Harry says something. Remember when he first talks to
Charlotte and he's talking aboutI promised my mother before she
died? And then in the like second
episode, second season or first season, he mentions his mother
died the year before or something.
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It happened with Harry too. These are just bad writers.
Like how does this happen twice right?
I don't understand I. Can see how it happens because
so much of the show is focused on the present.
Like we really don't get a lot of back story about any of these
characters. Bro, every single writer on that
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series should have been requiredto watch every single episode of
Sex in the City. Everyone.
I believe they probably did. Yeah, 20 years ago.
Well, maybe so. In any case, yeah, I thought it
was a fun episode. I guess I got what I wanted in
that. Yeah, Carrie got even more
hateable. Thank you, I guess.
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